November 17, 2023 • 39 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
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Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with
you here. Coming up on this Football Friday, we are
going to look back on Thursday Night football. Just when
was Joe Burrow injured? We will discuss all of that.
Plus we're gonna, for some reason talk about horse racing
in the Middle East. Yes, really, we're gonna do that.
We're going to talk about a couple of incidents of
maybe some bamboozling in the National Football League, the very
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latest on Jim Harbaugh. We're going to bring back the
term candy ass. Plus we've got Quinn's wins, our picks
against the spread, and you inner you out. It's all yours.
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Speaker 1 (01:52):
How the hell are we on a Friday?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah good, I'd feel better if my Super Bowl pick
was still live.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh yeah, that one went to the locker room last night,
my guy.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, that's gonna go ahead and wrap that up.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Just wrap that one.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The Baltimore Ravens get it done thirty four to twenty
the final, as Eddie Garcia laid out in.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
His Top of the Hour update.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But the story is a story in the game, and
it involves injuries. First, what we do know, according to
John Harbaugh, Mark Andrews, the one of the top tight
ends in the league, Lamar Jackson's favorite target for years
now in Baltimore, suffered a serious ankle injury. It looks
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like he's going to be done for the year. So
that's a bad blow for the Baltimore Ravens. And then
you transition over to the Joe Burrow injury and just
sort of the speculation that maybe Joe Burrow went into
that game, although he wasn't on the injury report, but
maybe he went into that game was some sort of
an issue with his right wrist, because he was seen
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on a video of them getting off the plane wearing
some sort of a brace or a sleeve on his
right hand. So again nowhere to be found on the
injury report. You know, you've got Zach Taylor afterward just
saying quickly, first, I had ever seen of it, I
don't know anything about it, and you've got a bunch
of people speculating as to whether or not the league's
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going to have a conversation with Cincinnati about what they
knew about this injury prior to the game.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I think that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh, the part as a player is, you know some guys,
you know you'll hide injuries your whole entire time as
a player from your own team, and you do it
because you're never in a situation where you feel security
or comfortable with your contract and your situation there. That's
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just the reality of the NFL. Most contracts are like that.
Joe Burrow's not in that situation. He's I think he's
different in the sense of he came into this season
playing banged up, he wants to play for his team,
he wants to hear he knows how important it is
for him to play on this team in order for
then a chance to win.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I think that's pretty clear. It's pretty evident in this case.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The tough thing is now the Bengals organization is going
to get in trouble. I mean, there was video evidence
clearly he was wearing some sort of brace on his
right wrist. It was hard to tell if it was
his thumb or what they were trying to protect or
immobilize and give time for rest. But clearly when he
got in the game, I know one time to point
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it out in the broadcast that way he fell on
it kind of but it looked like something that was
bothering him coming into it, And obviously it's something that's
going to take some time to potentially even I hate
to speculate and say surgery, but the way he was
gripping that football and trying to warm up and he
couldn't really even get through his throw, it makes you
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think that there's something for sure more there that could
keep them out of the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, I saw what you guys saw.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I mean I would love to try to justified differently
and say, may have been the way he fell down
on it. Maybe they were doing some you know, just
proactive measures, Like there are guys that do proactive rehab.
You know, you know, we know about the guys that
their prehabers, and I mean prehabers are really like kind
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of like OCD brain type people. You know, they use
a different part of their brain and they like, hey, buddy,
have you ever tried this cream? Hey have you ever
tried this pill? Listen this supplement here, it'll help you.
Hey man, look here, you got to ice it this time.
You gotta go jump in the ice bat like. You
have guys that do rollers, like like beyond belief how
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often they roll themselves out, Like there are some people
that do certain things, that wear compression pants and socks
on the flights to their gals. I mean, it is
the wildest thing to see somebody who's a prehaber.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I mean, so in my mind, do you feel like
should be doing that? Sometimes? Though? Did you ever watch
them and go, man, I should be doing that, you know?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I mean them dudes had long careers, some of them.
Some of them had some pretty long careers, and they
probably right now probably so they probably do. They probably
and they're probably still prehabing. You know, they're probably still
in that regiment of how they take care of their bodies.
So I don't know, Joe Burrow, So I don't know
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what what the scenario was, but it was like the
first thing I started thinking was, Okay, you you can
show that he had like something on his wrist, but
he might have been he might be a prehaber. He
might have had like a red laser on him, you know,
like a little red lady that he might have had
a portable tings unit on or it's something like that
where he just wanted to make short.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I'm just thinking I was trying because to me, I
don't understand your best player if he's if he's injured
to the point of where he's coming into the game
and he had to leave out injured, why would you
not have It just doesn't add up to not have
him all injury report.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I would put it this way as the player, I
wouldn't want as a quarterback people to know about any
injuries that I'm dealing with because I don't lose. I'm vulnerable,
like I'm a sitting duck back there. I don't want
you to think I'm less mobile. I don't want you
to think that you know I've got any sort of
issue that would impact ball security. I want to hide
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everything I can from anyone out there, because as a quarterback,
you really are the most vulnerable out there.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You're a sitting duck. You're waiting to get hit.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So for that reason, it's why I wouldn't want to
share anything with anyone. On top of it, I wouldn't
even want my team to know about it. For future
negotiations depending on my contract situation. So I cant think
of a lot of reasons why the player wouldn't want it.
The team though, they're the ones that's going to face
the penalty or fine depending on whatever comes from that,
and even furthermore we'll see where Burrow's at. But it's
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I do love the fact you just listed off almost
every single thing that uh oh pre habersman, he's not
I've got a die like you two.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean, that's no way to live though, all right,
don't you want to just get out there? And you
know you's taking so much time worrying about Like I
feel like there's a lot of people that do make
up the prehab world now, even off the football field,
you know, they feel like there was a lot of
pre habers post COVID out there, a lot of people
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that kind of went in that direction, and uh, I
just feel like that's no way to live.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
And still right now, definitely night.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, they're still masking.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Asking up, masking up hard, Like why go out?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I had a mask on. It was like a five
hour flight. I had a mask on really just just
just because I was I was going to sleep, and
I just put a mask on I just I don't
know why I don't know something on their seats like
every yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I know, I know, I do that too.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So here's here's here's the.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Here's the part that I do find funny about this,
because you know, the usual suspects in the media are
going to get a hold of this today and go, oh,
by god, this is a disgrace. They're not being clear
and transparent this, you know, with the NFL's relationship with
gambling companies, now, that's why the injury report existed in
the first place. And blah blah, blah, blah blah. Do
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you really think that degenerate gamblers around the country are
going to just now not gamble on the NFL and
you're going to lose their money because Joe Burrow may
or may not have had a risk.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Injury before the game.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Do you really think they're going to say, no, we
we can't trust this league, we're out. When the NBA
had their Tim donahey crap that the NBA kind of
kept quiet because they had a TV deal they were
ready to sign and they didn't want this uff coming out.
Do you think gamblers are like, I'm never betting on
the NBA again, my ass they're gonna keep gambling because
it's what they do. They're degenerate gamblers. So the idea
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that this is I would venture to guess, and Britty
you kind of alluded to this, and you guys have
mentioned this before.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How many games in.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Your career did you go in everyone with no injury whatsoever?
Long Like there's not one game and you're not on
the injury report every week, Like it's like nobody's on
the injury report every single week. If you so, the
idea that Cincinnati did something wrong, like Jacksonville's getting the
heat because Trevor Lawrence has got a knee injury that
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they're both him and Doug Peterson are saying, yeah, I'm
dealing with a knee injury now, but they haven't really
been as clear or transparent about it on the injury report.
It's like these one off scenarios. People pretend like this
is a plague in the league. If you want to
do a deep dive on it, all guys are injured
all the time and they're not on the injury report.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Everyone's banged up this time of year, like everyone's dealing
with something this time of year.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
It's just it's a violent sport. How it works.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, it's probably no different than a UFC match
in the sense of if you're going into that fight
and you had an injury while sparring or injury in camp,
you don't want the opponent to know about it. Like
it's a big purse. You probably need the money. You're
not gonna sit there and be like, well, I'm not
going to do this, but you're surely not going to
make it publicized.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And you know, fights get bet on all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And I think in some instances maybe there's a little
you know, it's a feel suspect, But I mean last
night was an example to it, because I think when
you make that argument, it also takes away.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
From looking at what Baltimore did.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And Baltimore was pretty dawn dorminant, you know, turn dominant
last night. And I kind of look at it and say,
that's really been the story of the Bengals season so
far this year. Yeah, we have not seen them be
able to put together the type of game outside of
that little four game stretch they had, we haven't really
been able to see them put together the type of
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game you know that that reminds you of like, oh yeah,
this team's gonna go on a run. They're gonna make
to a super Bowl and potentially win a super Bowl.
It just has not been.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Their year, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Either Burrow has been banged up and the offense got
off to a slow start where the defense was trying
to help him carry them. They had a nice string
of like high offensive production. You now see what this
team looks like without T Higgins and it's a different element,
you know, when he's not able to be out there
as part of one of those pass catches next to
Chase and Boyd. They showed a lot on the broadcast
last night. Jamar Chase has been playing press Manda mat
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coverage as much as anyone, and it's not that he
can't get open versus it. But I think any you know,
any wide receiver will tell you it's a lot harder
when you got someone up in your grill every single
time and you're trying to run a route.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Your timing is off.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's going to change the route you're supposed to run sometimes,
and it's gonna be harder to get you an accurate
football because the way your routes impact is going to
impact Joe Burrow or Jake Browning in this case last night,
and the way he's trying to throw you at the football,
because now that spot's going to be different.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
We used to say, like if we're throwing a nine.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yard stop, which is at throwing a nine yards you know,
that's when the receiver is gonna stop. He's gonna come
back down to his you know, downfield, you know shoulder,
You're gonna put the ball right there. Ball should be
out before he even gets to it to nine yards
if it's first press man and Manny might be like
two yards shorter, depending on what the rules are with
that wide receivers coaching that offense.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So it's just so much stuff changes, and I just
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean last night was an example of I thought
a dominant performance by Baltimore. Baltimore looks to be the
class of that conference and sees me division and maybe
even the conference depending on how Baltimore continues to.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Play from here.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I mean, they can run the ball, and their defense
is good. I mean even Gdebian Clown he's having a
good year, like he's.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Been pretty consistent as a player.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I just think everyone always attributed like his success to
sacks and as an edge rusher.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I get it. That's how a lot of the guys
are made and remembered.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But he's been a solid all around player as far
as playing against the run, doing his job, like doing
little things, gets batted down passes too. Like he's done
all that for a long time. He's been a very
very good player. It's just again, it's not like that. Hey,
he's not leading the league in sacks this year, and
I think that's unfortunately what people expect when he was
drafting to the running game. Dude, the Keaton Mitchell addition,
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I mean, how good is he? He's just so quick
and so fascinating space, Like it's a change of pay
It's like that, you know, one to two punch or
having that that fastball with some sort of changeup with
the way their backs run. So I like, I know
they want to throw the football with Todd Munkin and
the receivers they've got and some of that downfield ability,
but they still can run against pretty much anyone to feel.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And by the way, the holding call on Odell Beckham
on the Ze Flowers touchdown, I.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Don't I don't get it, Like, what is the league
doing with this.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't get it, Like we need to move to
a point I know you and I and LeVar have
talked about it, like having it throughout the game where
you can challenge and make it reviewable.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
That's one of those that you go, yeah, you'd probably
have that one back.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Is that not a textbook picture per perfect block by
a wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Like that's as good as it gets. Yeah, and and and.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Say fly like you saw you got a glimpse of
Zay Flowers, like what he can do and why they
drafted him. And then it gets called back and you
could just see John Harbaugh's lips and he's like, that's
such fing bs because he just knew that was crap,
Like that was that was an awful call. And also
say this just about the Bengals. There's a reason why
the percentages are what they are in NFL history when
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you start off.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Zero and two or whatever it is, and you don't.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Make the playoffs because your margin for air is so
small after that, So a game like this, you could
lose this game and it's like, yeah, it's a division
game that's rough, but a short week, it's understandable. But
the game last week against the Texans was the one
they're going to look back on. That was the fork
in the road for where they were going to go
in the season. And now you're looking up at the
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lights going, yeah, it's over. They're they're they're just not
making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Like it's not.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Happening closing time.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yep, it's uncoring.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
That's what it feels like. Yeah, look, that's that was
my that's my Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Pick man, And I feel like you're you're bearing it
a little bit early. All right, crazy thing's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But I want to see what.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
The odds are on them to make the play If
you had to guess right now what the odds are
in the Bengals to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Curtisy DraftKings.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Oh, at this point in the season, plus four hundred.
We got here because think.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
About Houston's going to have the tiebreaker from you're now
talking about wildcard spots. Although Houston might end up winning
the AFC South Division, but you start looking at some
of the teams that they've got to compete with for that.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I mean, they've got.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Three teams in the AFC North right now that are
slated to be in the AFC, you know, division or
excuse me, conference for.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Playoffs plus one sixty five way off.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, I'm not going to handicap it with that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But a minus two zero five for the Know, I
would actually say there's some better value on the know
than there is. You only beten about two to one
on that, So I'm going to go with them. I'm
going to say no on the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You've been out on them all year though, so pessimistic
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, I mean, in fairness, you know, I also had
the Bears and Broncos making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So what does that say about me?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Definitely?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
What that I mean, really like all credibility goes out
the window.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Because of that. But that's because you love football, and
that's because you love Fridays.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's a great point. That is a great point.
And but you know, I'm glad you brought that. There's
a lot of echoes going on here.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Uh it is.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is a great point by Brady Quinn because, as
we like to point out every single week here on
Fox Sports Radio, it's a football Friday.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah. Yeah, he's ready to go.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
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Speaker 5 (17:54):
Friday.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
All right, football here, all right, Just took his shirt off.
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
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is I think a little bit surprising for some people
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in following along on the Jim Harbaugh saga, the sign
stealing scandal that took place, that's been going on for
the past few weeks. Yesterday, Michigan and head coach Jim
Harbaugh agreed to the Big Ten's three game suspension for
the sign stealing investigation. There will be no court hearing
later on today to obtain a temporary restraining order or
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a tro cases dismissed, no harbor this Saturday at Maryland
or the following week week versus Ohio State, and that'll
do it. I'm a little bit surprised. I thought there
would be more of a fight or more of a
we're going to go ahead and prove that we did
nothing wrong. Now, the Big Ten or Michigan statement did
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say that the Big Ten did acknowledge that Jim Harbaugh
had no knowledge of this, of no knowledge of anything
going on.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yet here we are.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He's going to miss this tomorrow's game against Maryland and
the big one, the game against Ohio State to finish
up the season, and kind.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Of wh it's wild only because.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I feel like Jim Harbaugh is the type who'd want
to fight to make sure he clears his name, and
this is in essence doing that because of the Big
Ten coming out and the statement they have to make
saying they don't have no evidence that he was involved
in this, And then you have to look at the
punishment and say, like, does it fit the crime He
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already he already faced a three game self imposed suspension
earlier this season for the recruiting violations, which then say
is still he's going to hear that in the springtime
of next year.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
This comes out and now he's.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Going to serve a three game suspension arguably over the
two biggest games of the year for him potentially, I mean,
Penn State, Ohio State, no disrespect for whoever comes out
of the Big Ten West, Bigger games, tougher games than
what they're going to face in the Big Ten Championship game
now semi final. He'll be back for obviously, as you
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will the Big Ten Championship, but I mean these are
monumental games that'll largely make or break their season. So
the punishment in that sense, if you are the type
that believes he's got a huge impact when he's on
the field, even though it doesn't call plays, but managing
the whole thing, being the head coach leading his team.
I would say it's pretty punitive in that sense if
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the Big Ten really doesn't have any information or evidence
that he was had any knowledge about this and involved.
But it does make you wonder why, which a week
ago when I was sitting in Happy Valley, Michigan felt
really good about the chances of getting a temporary restraining
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order and eventually filing an injunction that would halt the
whole entire investigation. Or I guess I should say punishment
to force the Big ten to go through. What the
word you kept hearing was due process, due process, due process.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Everyone was Everyone was saying it.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Anyone who had had a tie to Michigan, anyone who was,
you know, getting information from Michigan.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
They kept saying, they want due process. Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
The hard thing was is this was unprecedented for the
Big tend to take action like this. Given this scenario.
NCAA we get it. And the problem is usually these
NCAA investigations.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Take a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But it was Tony Pettiti who won this thing to
expedite and people were putting pressure on him to make
a decision about something. So Michigan kept claiming they want
due process. Well, if they want to do process, what
happened to that? Like, why would you want you're hearing
isn't it wasn't the judge supposed to be a tad
ties back to Michigan or lectured at Michigan your favor
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to be able to get the injunction. So, I mean,
I've just got a lot of questions, more than anything else,
just as to why this makes sense. You know, why
is harbaught even you know, why is he spending a
three game suspension if the Big Tennis admitted they had
no involvement, that he was involved at all. Like, I
understand he's the figurehead of Michigan, but would you in
(25:08):
that case want to get down to the bottom of
punishing whoever is actually at fault for this instead of
just saying, all right, let's just give Jim Harbaugh three
games suspension. And if you're Jim Harbaugh and you had
nothing to do with it, why would you want to
serve the suspension? Why would you want to miss the
Ohio State game, for example, or the Marlow game in
Penn State game for that matter, if you didn't have
any involvement in it, it just seems like there's something
(25:30):
else going on here.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It seems that to have bit confusing to me because
I almost feel like he's taking the suspension because he's
not allowed to coach. Like he can't he can't get
it overturned, So just take the suspension.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Is that? How is that correct?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So if they would have had filed the injunction, they
would have been able to allow him to coach until
the legal proceedings wrapped up, until the judge was able
to make whatever decision the judge was going to make.
And so, with my limited understanding of this from a
legal perspective, they must have thought the judge was not
going to grant the injunction. They must have thought that
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that was the road this was going down, which isn't unreasonable,
only because it's not as if judges sometimes want to
grant those if they don't feel it's warranted or depending
on the subjects and so forth. And this is new territory, right,
so maybe there it came to a point where their
legal team saying to them, if this is the deal, right,
(26:38):
just take the deal.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
We hear we hear this all.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
The time when two teams or excuse me, two parties
come to terms and they end up taking kind of
the plea deal or something, right like if they took
the deal in this case and this is what it was, okay,
But Jim Harball still gets to be there six days
of the week to coach and help prepare his team.
And so it kind of goes back to the like,
how punitive is this for Jim Harball outside of his
(27:03):
reputation not being able to be there on game didn't
manage game day since he's not calling plays on either side.
I just I find it incredibly interesting by the way
Jim Palma might be falling. He might be falling a
sword for people who actually were much more involved than
he was on this and just taking the rap for it.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I mean, when you look back at.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Why I Sharon Moore was was so like upset and emotional,
you know, those assistants who call plays, those are the
guys that are probably actually getting more information from an
operation like that than anyone else.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, I just I feel like there's such a grey
area here and and how you're explaining it, you know,
and and how people are interpreting it, like in general,
not just the way you're saying it. I'm saying there's
a great area here that exists. And I think if
you have a grey area as large as this one,
I don't know that the general court of public opinion
(28:01):
will hold Jim Harbaugh up accountable for anything that happens.
And I don't know that the university should if they
don't know the truth, if there's a gray area to
the university. So if you're taking the deal, and it's like, listen,
we're going to take the deal, We're going to move on,
you got to assume the only loss they're going to
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get is against Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
If they lose to Ohio.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
State, they're still in perfect position to go to the postseason.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
So maybe the idea.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Here is, listen, if we win against against Ohio State,
I don't you don't think so?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
They?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I mean, I feel like one loss, So one loss
would knock them out of the college playoff. Yeah, I
think the loss to Michigan that's ranked in the top.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Five, what they're one loss of you to Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I mean Michigan's right, excuse me, Ohio State would be
a top five team that they would lose to.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
They go playoff.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Go through their schedule and measure who they've beat this year,
and then you compare it to the other teams and compare.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It to what I was about to say, when when
that have to be in comparison, So what Alabama would
would jump ahead of them or somebody like that, or
would it be like a Washington that would jump ahead
of them?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Well, yeah, you're assuming two things.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're assuming that like Washington wins out or even a
one loss Oregon wins in the Pac twelve, Right, they
both would have stronger cases based on their strength to
schedule and the fact that they're both conference champions. If
Texas wins the Big Twelve, is a one loss Big
twelve champ they get in. I mean, they beat Bama
in Bama, and you look at their schedule going through
the Big Twelve, they've got a tougher strength to schedule.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Then you go to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean, if Georgia wins out, that actually helps Michigan's
case in this instance. But if Bama beats Georgia in
the SEC championship game, because they're both going to play
right now, they've already punched their ticket. Bama's obviously and
as a one loss team, and then you've got Georgia,
who You're gonna sit there and say, at twelve and one,
their only loss comes a Alabama the SEC championship game,
(30:16):
they're not going to get in. So right, there's four
teams that I think all have a better case than Michigan.
If Michigan is to lose to Ohio State next week.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I mean, I don't know if you guys feel the
same way.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I don't include Florida.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
It didn't even include Florida State, Like, didn't even include
Like they've becompany forgotten.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah, they could go in defeed it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So I look at it and I go, this puts
even more pressure on Ryan Day to beat them next
weekend because if if they because all the excuses are
out like this was there, Okay, well they had an advantage,
they were signed, stealing, cheating, blah blah blah blah blah.
If Harbaugh's not there, a it's a bad look for
Ryan Day and Ohio State because they're part of the
(30:56):
problem here. They were reportedly one of the teams that
was like letting every know and hey, this is happening.
And they're given perdue you know, information about like all
that stuff's going on. Also, if Harbaugh does decide to leave,
doesn't this set up you're on more if he wins
out these three games without him to be the next
in line to take over that job, Like, how do
(31:18):
you go anywhere else?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
You think so? Right, you'd think so, but.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I would say this, it's Michigan and it's nothing getting
strong more. But you should open it up to guys,
even on their staff like Mike Hart. Yeah, I don't
know how they went about selecting. I'm sure Jim Harball
is ultimately when they got to select who'd be the guy.
But when Jim Harbaugh was looking at going to Minnesota
in the offseason last year, Mike Hart was room to
be one of the guys too. So there's a number
(31:47):
of reasons why I think, you look, you'd open it
up to interview everyone and then kind of sit back
and say, okay, like who do we feel like is
best suited for this? But I also felt like there's
some worthy guys on their staff and that's why probably
they had a number of guys who rotated it getting
a chance to be the head coach Earlier this year
when Jim Harbaugh had the suspension. But it's a valid
(32:08):
point you bring up about Ohio State and Ryan Day,
like this is what they wanted, But ultimately this is
what probably if you're an Ohio State fan and you
don't be Michigan in an arbor, which is gonna be
a tough battle as it is, it almost makes it
worse for you. I mean literally like that that almost
(32:28):
stacks it even worse against you. And the difference between
Jim Harbor and what Ryan Day is Ryan Day calls
the place he's actively involved. Like if the situation was reversed,
you lost Ryan Day, you would be feeling pretty concerned
about where your offense is going to be and what
the play call looks like. You know, Jim Harball oversees
all of it, and there's no doubt an element of, hey,
(32:50):
when do we go for the fourth downs? When do
we want to do a fake on special teams? You
know what adjustments is maybe Jim Harbaugh feeling they need
to make because they are they're trying to do it
in game after halftime all of that, and so that's
not there. But it is interesting to see how this
is going to play a role in all of it.
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Speaker 2 (33:38):
You talk about getting bamboozled somebody in the NFL. Did
We've got all the details and a fun little look
back in time coming up here again a little over
ten minutes from now. Yeah, nice little bamboozling happening in
the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So that'll be yours here.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Whoever came up with that word to, you know, kudos
to them.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Good.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Such a great word.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It feels like something boozle you come up with when
you're drinking, you know, like just having like I love it,
six seven hard.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Alcohol drinks and you're like what's a good word for this.
Let's go bamboozle. Can we look that uply?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Who came up last night?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
The word booze is in the word bamboos Yeah, so
there you go. How many did you have?
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Bar?
Speaker 5 (34:20):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I won't disclose, but I was in my hotel, all right,
so it makes it wasn't like I and I and
I was not publicly intoxicated at least I don't think
apparently just because I had one?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah it is? Is that where it came from? Though?
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Well?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Yeah, a drinking game called bamboozle, which is it's got
a it's got a board game out there for it,
but I have never heard of it before.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Hung But if it's a board game, I mean bamboozle
means you've been tricked, like you've been hoodwinked, which winked
is a great word too. But anyway, all right, I
like the word though, And I'm not an alcoholic either,
by the way. That that was the point I was
getting to.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What was that supposed to I'm not hold on, hold on,
what is that supposed to be saying?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Someone on our show is a No, I was not.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I was not taking a shot at lee I was
not taking a show at Lee.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Who said about it? I'm not because who said, you know?
My bad?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Damn my bed, damn.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Come on, I'm sorry, Dan. Are you just making an
assumption that it would be Lee? I'm not.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I was just saying, well, I heard at least come
up with the the word bamboozle being a drinking game,
and I just automatically just connected it to Lee.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
So I'm sorry. Yes, Look, I mean I don't know
a lot of drinking games, right, I.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Know a lot of drinking games. I know a lot
of board games in general. So that's right.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Okay, that's right. What's your favorite Lee board games?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I'm an old school risk guy, but that's kind of
old squirrel.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I like I like Clue Clue.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I would have figured you guys, ever get in
the Dungeons and Dragons your candy ass? Oh my gosh,
he is a soft loaching hand boy, he is.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
By the way, can we start using candy ass Sam? Please?
Is that allowed to be used on the air?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
That's fine, all right, Just don't be a candy Sam.
Don't be a candy ass and dump it next time
we use it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Already said enough? Three or four times. So I love
candy Ass.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Why are you say we could say it then you're upset.
We were saying multiple times after that, sad.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Candy I'm not.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
It's like it's like, oh, it's a green light, but
you need to drive like it's yellow. No, Sam, we
either have the green lights.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Said fine, you can. You've said it multiple times. I
don't care. Yeah, okay, I'm driving like candy Ass.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Candy Ass, candy Ass.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Are you guys talking about candy Ass because you're talking
about candy lamdah Candy Land the game. Yeah, I love
that game as a kid. I grew it.
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Speaker 8 (37:30):
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Speaker 1 (37:34):
Happy morning, guys. In case you missed us, I feel
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Speaker 5 (37:42):
Friday.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
I feel like I feel like we get a story
like this a couple of times a year.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Hey Brady, Hey, everybody.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
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Speaker 1 (37:55):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
In case, a Scottish doctor has been banned from running
ultra marathons for the rest of the year in the
Great Britain, in Great Britain, in the UK because of
writing in a car. We get this story every few years.
There's a lot of hands and outside. I gotta tell you, guys.
She took a two and a half mile car ride
after suffering an injury, and at which point she claimed
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she told the officials that she wanted to finish and
go across the finish line in a non competitive manner. Well,
she ended up finishing third and accepting the trophy. An
investigation ensued. The Marshalls said that never happened, and then
she later blamed it on jet lag, saying she accepted
the third place trophy because of jet lag. She has
now since been reprimanded and banned from competing in ultra marathons.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
What is wrong with people? Like, seriously, what is wrong
with people?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
You got a problem with her, You got a problem
with her having you know, the foresight to go you
know what, I know I could cut a couple of
corners here if I just take a quick car ride.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's an ultra marathon.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I'm clearly bad for you. Any pay off for her?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, I think this might actually parlay into like another topic.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
We're going to talk about it some point here in
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
But it's like, I just I don't know why people
want to take credit for things they didn't really do.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I mean, welcome to social media.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
That happens all the time. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
Now, if she had finished in fourth place didn't accept
the trophy, are you okay with her?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know, she got injured, she didn't finish it.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
She didn't finish it.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Like, if you're a true competitor, you'd say, I got injured,
I didn't finish.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I didn't run the whole round. Get a place. Yeah,
you don't get it. You went to finish line, but
you didn't. You didn't get a place.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, but you know what, whoever did finish fourth and
had to accept the trophy afterwards. They probably they probably
feel like a candy ass right about now because they're
taking some trophy after the fact.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Good usage, you know what I mean, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
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Plus we're gonna, for some reason talk about horse racing
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We're going to talk about a couple of incidents of
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Speaker 1 (01:52):
How the hell are we on a Friday?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Yeah good, I'd feel better if my Super Bowl pick
was still live.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Oh yeah, that one went to the locker room last night,
my guy.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, that's gonna go ahead and wrap that up.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
Just wrap that one.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
The Baltimore Ravens get it done thirty four to twenty
the final, as Eddie Garcia laid out in.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
His Top of the Hour update.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
But the story is a story in the game, and
it involves injuries. First, what we do know, according to
John Harbaugh, Mark Andrews, the one of the top tight
ends in the league, Lamar Jackson's favorite target for years
now in Baltimore, suffered a serious ankle injury. It looks
(02:37):
like he's going to be done for the year. So
that's a bad blow for the Baltimore Ravens. And then
you transition over to the Joe Burrow injury and just
sort of the speculation that maybe Joe Burrow went into
that game, although he wasn't on the injury report, but
maybe he went into that game was some sort of
an issue with his right wrist, because he was seen
(02:58):
on a video of them getting off the plane wearing
some sort of a brace or a sleeve on his
right hand. So again nowhere to be found on the
injury report. You know, you've got Zach Taylor afterward just
saying quickly, first, I had ever seen of it, I
don't know anything about it, and you've got a bunch
of people speculating as to whether or not the league's
(03:19):
going to have a conversation with Cincinnati about what they
knew about this injury prior to the game.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
I think that, yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Oh, the part as a player is, you know some guys,
you know you'll hide injuries your whole entire time as
a player from your own team, and you do it
because you're never in a situation where you feel security
or comfortable with your contract and your situation there. That's
(03:47):
just the reality of the NFL. Most contracts are like that.
Joe Burrow's not in that situation. He's I think he's
different in the sense of he came into this season
playing banged up, he wants to play for his team,
he wants to hear he knows how important it is
for him to play on this team in order for
then a chance to win.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
I think that's pretty clear. It's pretty evident in this case.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
The tough thing is now the Bengals organization is going
to get in trouble. I mean, there was video evidence
clearly he was wearing some sort of brace on his
right wrist. It was hard to tell if it was
his thumb or what they were trying to protect or
immobilize and give time for rest. But clearly when he
got in the game, I know one time to point
(04:30):
it out in the broadcast that way he fell on
it kind of but it looked like something that was
bothering him coming into it, And obviously it's something that's
going to take some time to potentially even I hate
to speculate and say surgery, but the way he was
gripping that football and trying to warm up and he
couldn't really even get through his throw, it makes you
(04:51):
think that there's something for sure more there that could
keep them out of the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, I saw what you guys saw.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
I mean I would love to try to justified differently
and say, may have been the way he fell down
on it. Maybe they were doing some you know, just
proactive measures, Like there are guys that do proactive rehab.
You know, you know, we know about the guys that
their prehabers, and I mean prehabers are really like kind
(05:19):
of like OCD brain type people. You know, they use
a different part of their brain and they like, hey, buddy,
have you ever tried this cream? Hey have you ever
tried this pill? Listen this supplement here, it'll help you.
Hey man, look here, you got to ice it this time.
You gotta go jump in the ice bat like. You
have guys that do rollers, like like beyond belief how
(05:41):
often they roll themselves out, Like there are some people
that do certain things, that wear compression pants and socks
on the flights to their gals. I mean, it is
the wildest thing to see somebody who's a prehaber.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
I mean, so in my mind, do you feel like
should be doing that? Sometimes? Though? Did you ever watch
them and go, man, I should be doing that, you know?
Speaker 4 (06:04):
I mean them dudes had long careers, some of them.
Some of them had some pretty long careers, and they
probably right now probably so they probably do. They probably
and they're probably still prehabing. You know, they're probably still
in that regiment of how they take care of their bodies.
So I don't know, Joe Burrow, So I don't know
(06:25):
what what the scenario was, but it was like the
first thing I started thinking was, Okay, you you can
show that he had like something on his wrist, but
he might have been he might be a prehaber. He
might have had like a red laser on him, you know,
like a little red lady that he might have had
a portable tings unit on or it's something like that
where he just wanted to make short.
Speaker 5 (06:44):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
I'm just thinking I was trying because to me, I
don't understand your best player if he's if he's injured
to the point of where he's coming into the game
and he had to leave out injured, why would you
not have It just doesn't add up to not have
him all injury report.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I would put it this way as the player, I
wouldn't want as a quarterback people to know about any
injuries that I'm dealing with because I don't lose. I'm vulnerable,
like I'm a sitting duck back there. I don't want
you to think I'm less mobile. I don't want you
to think that you know I've got any sort of
issue that would impact ball security. I want to hide
(07:25):
everything I can from anyone out there, because as a quarterback,
you really are the most vulnerable out there.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
You're a sitting duck. You're waiting to get hit.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
So for that reason, it's why I wouldn't want to
share anything with anyone. On top of it, I wouldn't
even want my team to know about it. For future
negotiations depending on my contract situation. So I cant think
of a lot of reasons why the player wouldn't want it.
The team though, they're the ones that's going to face
the penalty or fine depending on whatever comes from that,
and even furthermore we'll see where Burrow's at. But it's
(07:57):
I do love the fact you just listed off almost
every single thing that uh oh pre habersman, he's not
I've got a die like you two.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I mean, that's no way to live though, all right,
don't you want to just get out there? And you
know you's taking so much time worrying about Like I
feel like there's a lot of people that do make
up the prehab world now, even off the football field,
you know, they feel like there was a lot of
pre habers post COVID out there, a lot of people
(08:33):
that kind of went in that direction, and uh, I
just feel like that's no way to live.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
And still right now, definitely night.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, they're still masking.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
Asking up, masking up hard, Like why go out?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I had a mask on. It was like a five
hour flight. I had a mask on really just just
just because I was I was going to sleep, and
I just put a mask on I just I don't
know why I don't know something on their seats like
every yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:03):
I know, I know, I do that too.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
So here's here's here's the.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Here's the part that I do find funny about this,
because you know, the usual suspects in the media are
going to get a hold of this today and go, oh,
by god, this is a disgrace. They're not being clear
and transparent this, you know, with the NFL's relationship with
gambling companies, now, that's why the injury report existed in
the first place. And blah blah, blah, blah blah. Do
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you really think that degenerate gamblers around the country are
going to just now not gamble on the NFL and
you're going to lose their money because Joe Burrow may
or may not have had a risk.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
Injury before the game.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Do you really think they're going to say, no, we
we can't trust this league, we're out. When the NBA
had their Tim donahey crap that the NBA kind of
kept quiet because they had a TV deal they were
ready to sign and they didn't want this uff coming out.
Do you think gamblers are like, I'm never betting on
the NBA again, my ass they're gonna keep gambling because
it's what they do. They're degenerate gamblers. So the idea
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that this is I would venture to guess, and Britty
you kind of alluded to this, and you guys have
mentioned this before.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
How many games in.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Your career did you go in everyone with no injury whatsoever?
Long Like there's not one game and you're not on
the injury report every week, Like it's like nobody's on
the injury report every single week. If you so, the
idea that Cincinnati did something wrong, like Jacksonville's getting the
heat because Trevor Lawrence has got a knee injury that
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they're both him and Doug Peterson are saying, yeah, I'm
dealing with a knee injury now, but they haven't really
been as clear or transparent about it on the injury report.
It's like these one off scenarios. People pretend like this
is a plague in the league. If you want to
do a deep dive on it, all guys are injured
all the time and they're not on the injury report.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Everyone's banged up this time of year, like everyone's dealing
with something this time of year.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
It's just it's a violent sport. How it works.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
I mean, it's probably no different than a UFC match
in the sense of if you're going into that fight
and you had an injury while sparring or injury in camp,
you don't want the opponent to know about it. Like
it's a big purse. You probably need the money. You're
not gonna sit there and be like, well, I'm not
going to do this, but you're surely not going to
make it publicized.
Speaker 5 (11:22):
And you know, fights get bet on all the time.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
And I think in some instances maybe there's a little
you know, it's a feel suspect, But I mean last
night was an example to it, because I think when
you make that argument, it also takes away.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
From looking at what Baltimore did.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
And Baltimore was pretty dawn dorminant, you know, turn dominant
last night. And I kind of look at it and say,
that's really been the story of the Bengals season so
far this year. Yeah, we have not seen them be
able to put together the type of game outside of
that little four game stretch they had, we haven't really
been able to see them put together the type of
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game you know that that reminds you of like, oh yeah,
this team's gonna go on a run. They're gonna make
to a super Bowl and potentially win a super Bowl.
It just has not been.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
Their year, you know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Either Burrow has been banged up and the offense got
off to a slow start where the defense was trying
to help him carry them. They had a nice string
of like high offensive production. You now see what this
team looks like without T Higgins and it's a different element,
you know, when he's not able to be out there
as part of one of those pass catches next to
Chase and Boyd. They showed a lot on the broadcast
last night. Jamar Chase has been playing press Manda mat
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coverage as much as anyone, and it's not that he
can't get open versus it. But I think any you know,
any wide receiver will tell you it's a lot harder
when you got someone up in your grill every single
time and you're trying to run a route.
Speaker 5 (12:42):
Your timing is off.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
It's going to change the route you're supposed to run sometimes,
and it's gonna be harder to get you an accurate
football because the way your routes impact is going to
impact Joe Burrow or Jake Browning in this case last night,
and the way he's trying to throw you at the football,
because now that spot's going to be different.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
We used to say, like if we're throwing a nine.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yard stop, which is at throwing a nine yards you know,
that's when the receiver is gonna stop. He's gonna come
back down to his you know, downfield, you know shoulder,
You're gonna put the ball right there. Ball should be
out before he even gets to it to nine yards
if it's first press man and Manny might be like
two yards shorter, depending on what the rules are with
that wide receivers coaching that offense.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
So it's just so much stuff changes, and I just
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
I mean last night was an example of I thought
a dominant performance by Baltimore. Baltimore looks to be the
class of that conference and sees me division and maybe
even the conference depending on how Baltimore continues to.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
Play from here.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
I mean, they can run the ball, and their defense
is good. I mean even Gdebian Clown he's having a
good year, like he's.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
Been pretty consistent as a player.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I just think everyone always attributed like his success to
sacks and as an edge rusher.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
I get it. That's how a lot of the guys
are made and remembered.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
But he's been a solid all around player as far
as playing against the run, doing his job, like doing
little things, gets batted down passes too. Like he's done
all that for a long time. He's been a very
very good player. It's just again, it's not like that. Hey,
he's not leading the league in sacks this year, and
I think that's unfortunately what people expect when he was
drafting to the running game. Dude, the Keaton Mitchell addition,
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I mean, how good is he? He's just so quick
and so fascinating space, Like it's a change of pay
It's like that, you know, one to two punch or
having that that fastball with some sort of changeup with
the way their backs run. So I like, I know
they want to throw the football with Todd Munkin and
the receivers they've got and some of that downfield ability,
but they still can run against pretty much anyone to feel.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
And by the way, the holding call on Odell Beckham
on the Ze Flowers touchdown, I.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Don't I don't get it, Like, what is the league
doing with this.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
I don't get it, Like we need to move to
a point I know you and I and LeVar have
talked about it, like having it throughout the game where
you can challenge and make it reviewable.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
That's one of those that you go, yeah, you'd probably
have that one back.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Is that not a textbook picture per perfect block by
a wide receiver?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
Like that's as good as it gets. Yeah, and and and.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Say fly like you saw you got a glimpse of
Zay Flowers, like what he can do and why they
drafted him. And then it gets called back and you
could just see John Harbaugh's lips and he's like, that's
such fing bs because he just knew that was crap,
Like that was that was an awful call. And also
say this just about the Bengals. There's a reason why
the percentages are what they are in NFL history when
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you start off.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Zero and two or whatever it is, and you don't.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Make the playoffs because your margin for air is so
small after that, So a game like this, you could
lose this game and it's like, yeah, it's a division
game that's rough, but a short week, it's understandable. But
the game last week against the Texans was the one
they're going to look back on. That was the fork
in the road for where they were going to go
in the season. And now you're looking up at the
(15:51):
lights going, yeah, it's over. They're they're they're just not
making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Like it's not.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
Happening closing time.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yep, it's uncoring.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
That's what it feels like. Yeah, look, that's that was
my that's my Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Pick man, And I feel like you're you're bearing it
a little bit early. All right, crazy thing's gonna happen.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
But I want to see what.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
The odds are on them to make the play If
you had to guess right now what the odds are
in the Bengals to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Curtisy DraftKings.
Speaker 5 (16:18):
Oh, at this point in the season, plus four hundred.
We got here because think.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
About Houston's going to have the tiebreaker from you're now
talking about wildcard spots. Although Houston might end up winning
the AFC South Division, but you start looking at some
of the teams that they've got to compete with for that.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I mean, they've got.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Three teams in the AFC North right now that are
slated to be in the AFC, you know, division or
excuse me, conference for.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Playoffs plus one sixty five way off.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yeah, I'm not going to handicap it with that.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But a minus two zero five for the Know, I
would actually say there's some better value on the know
than there is. You only beten about two to one
on that, So I'm going to go with them. I'm
going to say no on the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
You've been out on them all year though, so pessimistic
about it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, I mean, in fairness, you know, I also had
the Bears and Broncos making the playoffs.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So what does that say about me?
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Definitely?
Speaker 2 (17:08):
What that I mean, really like all credibility goes out
the window.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Because of that. But that's because you love football, and
that's because you love Fridays.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yeah, that's a great point. That is a great point.
And but you know, I'm glad you brought that. There's
a lot of echoes going on here.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Uh it is.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
It is a great point by Brady Quinn because, as
we like to point out every single week here on
Fox Sports Radio, it's a football Friday.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah. Yeah, he's ready to go.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
Friday.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
All right, football here, all right, Just took his shirt off.
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (18:18):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
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We are gonna have the usuals coming up. Later on,
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We'll get into that for you twenty minutes from now
here on Fox Sports Radio. But let's get to what
is I think a little bit surprising for some people
(21:01):
in following along on the Jim Harbaugh saga, the sign
stealing scandal that took place, that's been going on for
the past few weeks. Yesterday, Michigan and head coach Jim
Harbaugh agreed to the Big Ten's three game suspension for
the sign stealing investigation. There will be no court hearing
later on today to obtain a temporary restraining order or
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a tro cases dismissed, no harbor this Saturday at Maryland
or the following week week versus Ohio State, and that'll
do it. I'm a little bit surprised. I thought there
would be more of a fight or more of a
we're going to go ahead and prove that we did
nothing wrong. Now, the Big Ten or Michigan statement did
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say that the Big Ten did acknowledge that Jim Harbaugh
had no knowledge of this, of no knowledge of anything
going on.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yet here we are.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
He's going to miss this tomorrow's game against Maryland and
the big one, the game against Ohio State to finish
up the season, and kind.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
Of wh it's wild only because.
Speaker 3 (22:05):
I feel like Jim Harbaugh is the type who'd want
to fight to make sure he clears his name, and
this is in essence doing that because of the Big
Ten coming out and the statement they have to make
saying they don't have no evidence that he was involved
in this, And then you have to look at the
punishment and say, like, does it fit the crime He
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already he already faced a three game self imposed suspension
earlier this season for the recruiting violations, which then say
is still he's going to hear that in the springtime
of next year.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
This comes out and now he's.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Going to serve a three game suspension arguably over the
two biggest games of the year for him potentially, I mean,
Penn State, Ohio State, no disrespect for whoever comes out
of the Big Ten West, Bigger games, tougher games than
what they're going to face in the Big Ten Championship game
now semi final. He'll be back for obviously, as you
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will the Big Ten Championship, but I mean these are
monumental games that'll largely make or break their season. So
the punishment in that sense, if you are the type
that believes he's got a huge impact when he's on
the field, even though it doesn't call plays, but managing
the whole thing, being the head coach leading his team.
I would say it's pretty punitive in that sense if
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the Big Ten really doesn't have any information or evidence
that he was had any knowledge about this and involved.
But it does make you wonder why, which a week
ago when I was sitting in Happy Valley, Michigan felt
really good about the chances of getting a temporary restraining
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order and eventually filing an injunction that would halt the
whole entire investigation. Or I guess I should say punishment
to force the Big ten to go through. What the
word you kept hearing was due process, due process, due process.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Everyone was Everyone was saying it.
Speaker 3 (24:03):
Anyone who had had a tie to Michigan, anyone who was,
you know, getting information from Michigan.
Speaker 5 (24:07):
They kept saying, they want due process. Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
The hard thing was is this was unprecedented for the
Big tend to take action like this. Given this scenario.
NCAA we get it. And the problem is usually these
NCAA investigations.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Take a long time.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
But it was Tony Pettiti who won this thing to
expedite and people were putting pressure on him to make
a decision about something. So Michigan kept claiming they want
due process. Well, if they want to do process, what
happened to that? Like, why would you want you're hearing
isn't it wasn't the judge supposed to be a tad
ties back to Michigan or lectured at Michigan your favor
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to be able to get the injunction. So, I mean,
I've just got a lot of questions, more than anything else,
just as to why this makes sense. You know, why
is harbaught even you know, why is he spending a
three game suspension if the Big Tennis admitted they had
no involvement, that he was involved at all. Like, I
understand he's the figurehead of Michigan, but would you in
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that case want to get down to the bottom of
punishing whoever is actually at fault for this instead of
just saying, all right, let's just give Jim Harbaugh three
games suspension. And if you're Jim Harbaugh and you had
nothing to do with it, why would you want to
serve the suspension? Why would you want to miss the
Ohio State game, for example, or the Marlow game in
Penn State game for that matter, if you didn't have
any involvement in it, it just seems like there's something
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else going on here.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It seems that to have bit confusing to me because
I almost feel like he's taking the suspension because he's
not allowed to coach. Like he can't he can't get
it overturned, So just take the suspension.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Is that? How is that correct?
Speaker 3 (25:54):
So if they would have had filed the injunction, they
would have been able to allow him to coach until
the legal proceedings wrapped up, until the judge was able
to make whatever decision the judge was going to make.
And so, with my limited understanding of this from a
legal perspective, they must have thought the judge was not
going to grant the injunction. They must have thought that
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that was the road this was going down, which isn't unreasonable,
only because it's not as if judges sometimes want to
grant those if they don't feel it's warranted or depending
on the subjects and so forth. And this is new territory, right,
so maybe there it came to a point where their
legal team saying to them, if this is the deal, right,
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just take the deal.
Speaker 5 (26:39):
We hear we hear this all.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
The time when two teams or excuse me, two parties
come to terms and they end up taking kind of
the plea deal or something, right like if they took
the deal in this case and this is what it was, okay,
But Jim Harball still gets to be there six days
of the week to coach and help prepare his team.
And so it kind of goes back to the like,
how punitive is this for Jim Harball outside of his
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reputation not being able to be there on game didn't
manage game day since he's not calling plays on either side.
I just I find it incredibly interesting by the way
Jim Palma might be falling. He might be falling a
sword for people who actually were much more involved than
he was on this and just taking the rap for it.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I mean, when you look back at.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Why I Sharon Moore was was so like upset and emotional,
you know, those assistants who call plays, those are the
guys that are probably actually getting more information from an
operation like that than anyone else.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
Yeah, I just I feel like there's such a grey
area here and and how you're explaining it, you know,
and and how people are interpreting it, like in general,
not just the way you're saying it. I'm saying there's
a great area here that exists. And I think if
you have a grey area as large as this one,
I don't know that the general court of public opinion
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will hold Jim Harbaugh up accountable for anything that happens.
And I don't know that the university should if they
don't know the truth, if there's a gray area to
the university. So if you're taking the deal, and it's like, listen,
we're going to take the deal, We're going to move on,
you got to assume the only loss they're going to
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get is against Ohio State.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
If they lose to Ohio.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
State, they're still in perfect position to go to the postseason.
Speaker 5 (28:30):
So maybe the idea.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Here is, listen, if we win against against Ohio State,
I don't you don't think so?
Speaker 5 (28:39):
They?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
I mean, I feel like one loss, So one loss
would knock them out of the college playoff. Yeah, I
think the loss to Michigan that's ranked in the top.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Five, what they're one loss of you to Ohio State.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
I mean Michigan's right, excuse me, Ohio State would be
a top five team that they would lose to.
Speaker 5 (29:05):
They go playoff.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
Go through their schedule and measure who they've beat this year,
and then you compare it to the other teams and compare.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
It to what I was about to say, when when
that have to be in comparison, So what Alabama would
would jump ahead of them or somebody like that, or
would it be like a Washington that would jump ahead
of them?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Well, yeah, you're assuming two things.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You're assuming that like Washington wins out or even a
one loss Oregon wins in the Pac twelve, Right, they
both would have stronger cases based on their strength to
schedule and the fact that they're both conference champions. If
Texas wins the Big Twelve, is a one loss Big
twelve champ they get in. I mean, they beat Bama
in Bama, and you look at their schedule going through
the Big Twelve, they've got a tougher strength to schedule.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Then you go to the SEC.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
I mean, if Georgia wins out, that actually helps Michigan's
case in this instance. But if Bama beats Georgia in
the SEC championship game, because they're both going to play
right now, they've already punched their ticket. Bama's obviously and
as a one loss team, and then you've got Georgia,
who You're gonna sit there and say, at twelve and one,
their only loss comes a Alabama the SEC championship game,
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they're not going to get in. So right, there's four
teams that I think all have a better case than Michigan.
If Michigan is to lose to Ohio State next week.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
I mean, I don't know if you guys feel the
same way.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I don't include Florida.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
It didn't even include Florida State, Like, didn't even include
Like they've becompany forgotten.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
Yeah, they could go in defeed it.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
So I look at it and I go, this puts
even more pressure on Ryan Day to beat them next
weekend because if if they because all the excuses are
out like this was there, Okay, well they had an advantage,
they were signed, stealing, cheating, blah blah blah blah blah.
If Harbaugh's not there, a it's a bad look for
Ryan Day and Ohio State because they're part of the
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problem here. They were reportedly one of the teams that
was like letting every know and hey, this is happening.
And they're given perdue you know, information about like all
that stuff's going on. Also, if Harbaugh does decide to leave,
doesn't this set up you're on more if he wins
out these three games without him to be the next
in line to take over that job, Like, how do
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you go anywhere else?
Speaker 5 (31:20):
You think so? Right, you'd think so, but.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
I would say this, it's Michigan and it's nothing getting
strong more. But you should open it up to guys,
even on their staff like Mike Hart. Yeah, I don't
know how they went about selecting. I'm sure Jim Harball
is ultimately when they got to select who'd be the guy.
But when Jim Harbaugh was looking at going to Minnesota
in the offseason last year, Mike Hart was room to
be one of the guys too. So there's a number
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of reasons why I think, you look, you'd open it
up to interview everyone and then kind of sit back
and say, okay, like who do we feel like is
best suited for this? But I also felt like there's
some worthy guys on their staff and that's why probably
they had a number of guys who rotated it getting
a chance to be the head coach Earlier this year
when Jim Harbaugh had the suspension. But it's a valid
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point you bring up about Ohio State and Ryan Day,
like this is what they wanted, But ultimately this is
what probably if you're an Ohio State fan and you
don't be Michigan in an arbor, which is gonna be
a tough battle as it is, it almost makes it
worse for you. I mean literally like that that almost
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stacks it even worse against you. And the difference between
Jim Harbor and what Ryan Day is Ryan Day calls
the place he's actively involved. Like if the situation was reversed,
you lost Ryan Day, you would be feeling pretty concerned
about where your offense is going to be and what
the play call looks like. You know, Jim Harball oversees
all of it, and there's no doubt an element of, hey,
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when do we go for the fourth downs? When do
we want to do a fake on special teams? You
know what adjustments is maybe Jim Harbaugh feeling they need
to make because they are they're trying to do it
in game after halftime all of that, and so that's
not there. But it is interesting to see how this
is going to play a role in all of it.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Coming up next here, you talk about a brilliant move,
some would call it a genius move when it comes
to getting a competitive edge.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
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up top of next hour a little over ten minutes
from now from the tire.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
You talk about getting bamboozled somebody in the NFL. Did
We've got all the details and a fun little look
back in time coming up here again a little over
ten minutes from now. Yeah, nice little bamboozling happening in
the National Football League.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
So that'll be yours here.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
Whoever came up with that word to, you know, kudos
to them.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Good.
Speaker 5 (34:01):
Such a great word.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
It feels like something boozle you come up with when
you're drinking, you know, like just having like I love it,
six seven hard.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
Alcohol drinks and you're like what's a good word for this.
Let's go bamboozle. Can we look that uply?
Speaker 5 (34:13):
Who came up last night?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
The word booze is in the word bamboos Yeah, so
there you go. How many did you have?
Speaker 6 (34:20):
Bar?
Speaker 5 (34:20):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
I won't disclose, but I was in my hotel, all right,
so it makes it wasn't like I and I and
I was not publicly intoxicated at least I don't think
apparently just because I had one?
Speaker 5 (34:39):
Yeah it is? Is that where it came from? Though?
Speaker 7 (34:41):
Well?
Speaker 8 (34:42):
Yeah, a drinking game called bamboozle, which is it's got
a it's got a board game out there for it,
but I have never heard of it before.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Hung But if it's a board game, I mean bamboozle
means you've been tricked, like you've been hoodwinked, which winked
is a great word too. But anyway, all right, I
like the word though, And I'm not an alcoholic either,
by the way. That that was the point I was
getting to.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
What was that supposed to I'm not hold on, hold on,
what is that supposed to be saying?
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Someone on our show is a No, I was not.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
I was not taking a shot at lee I was
not taking a show at Lee.
Speaker 5 (35:22):
Who said about it? I'm not because who said, you know?
My bad?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Damn my bed, damn.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Come on, I'm sorry, Dan. Are you just making an
assumption that it would be Lee? I'm not.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
I was just saying, well, I heard at least come
up with the the word bamboozle being a drinking game,
and I just automatically just connected it to Lee.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
So I'm sorry. Yes, Look, I mean I don't know
a lot of drinking games, right, I.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Know a lot of drinking games. I know a lot
of board games in general. So that's right.
Speaker 5 (35:54):
Okay, that's right. What's your favorite Lee board games?
Speaker 1 (35:57):
I'm an old school risk guy, but that's kind of
old squirrel.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
I like I like Clue Clue.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah, I would have figured you guys, ever get in
the Dungeons and Dragons your candy ass? Oh my gosh,
he is a soft loaching hand boy, he is.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
By the way, can we start using candy ass Sam? Please?
Is that allowed to be used on the air?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
That's fine, all right, Just don't be a candy Sam.
Don't be a candy ass and dump it next time
we use it.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Already said enough? Three or four times. So I love
candy Ass.
Speaker 3 (36:32):
Why are you say we could say it then you're upset.
We were saying multiple times after that, sad.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Candy I'm not.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
It's like it's like, oh, it's a green light, but
you need to drive like it's yellow. No, Sam, we
either have the green lights.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Said fine, you can. You've said it multiple times. I
don't care. Yeah, okay, I'm driving like candy Ass.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Candy Ass, candy Ass.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Are you guys talking about candy Ass because you're talking
about candy lamdah Candy Land the game. Yeah, I love
that game as a kid. I grew it.
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Speaker 7 (37:16):
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Speaker 5 (37:20):
Good thing.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
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Speaker 2 (37:25):
Missed it, and for that we turn it over to
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Speaker 6 (37:29):
Lap.
Speaker 8 (37:30):
Happy Friday morning, everybody, guys. Happy morning, LaVar, Happy morning Brady.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Happy morning, guys. In case you missed us, I feel
like we get a story like.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
Friday.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
I feel like I feel like we get a story
like this a couple of times a year.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Hey Brady, Hey, everybody.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Shut the.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (37:55):
In case, a Scottish doctor has been banned from running
ultra marathons for the rest of the year in the
Great Britain, in Great Britain, in the UK because of
writing in a car. We get this story every few years.
There's a lot of hands and outside. I gotta tell you, guys.
She took a two and a half mile car ride
after suffering an injury, and at which point she claimed
(38:16):
she told the officials that she wanted to finish and
go across the finish line in a non competitive manner. Well,
she ended up finishing third and accepting the trophy. An
investigation ensued. The Marshalls said that never happened, and then
she later blamed it on jet lag, saying she accepted
the third place trophy because of jet lag. She has
now since been reprimanded and banned from competing in ultra marathons.
Speaker 5 (38:38):
What is wrong with people? Like, seriously, what is wrong
with people?
Speaker 2 (38:43):
You got a problem with her, You got a problem
with her having you know, the foresight to go you
know what, I know I could cut a couple of
corners here if I just take a quick car ride.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
It's an ultra marathon.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I'm clearly bad for you. Any pay off for her?
Speaker 3 (38:56):
Yeah, I think this might actually parlay into like another topic.
Speaker 5 (38:59):
We're going to talk about it some point here in
a little bit.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
But it's like, I just I don't know why people
want to take credit for things they didn't really do.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
I mean, welcome to social media.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
That happens all the time. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8 (39:12):
Now, if she had finished in fourth place didn't accept
the trophy, are you okay with her?
Speaker 1 (39:16):
You know, she got injured, she didn't finish it.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
She didn't finish it.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Like, if you're a true competitor, you'd say, I got injured,
I didn't finish.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
I didn't run the whole round. Get a place. Yeah,
you don't get it. You went to finish line, but
you didn't. You didn't get a place.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, but you know what, whoever did finish fourth and
had to accept the trophy afterwards. They probably they probably
feel like a candy ass right about now because they're
taking some trophy after the fact.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
Good usage, you know what I mean, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 5 (39:45):
I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
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