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November 17, 2023 39 mins

The guys revisit the Deshaun Watson trade and react to RGIII wanting a call from the Browns. The weekly editions of “Quinn’s Wins” and “Pix Against the Spread.” Plus, a degenerate gambler is born.

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Speaker 3 (00:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:40):
Brady, Uh, slow motion?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
Yeah, finally, Yeah, Brady likes to beat though.

Speaker 5 (00:49):
This isn't This isn't my song. I do like it
though I've listened to this in multiple versions.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Funny, it's your song? What this one? Did you really? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Yeah, it's good. It's a good song, good tune.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
And now it's your song. I'm taking Jimmy Hendricks. You
take this one. Oh you're doing That's how you're doing
it today. We're switching right here. Laugh. Do you know?

Speaker 5 (01:14):
That was the song that I always say John Solivan
on the bus on the way to Note Name games
in college was always Jimmy Jimmy Hendricks.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
All right, okay, do you want to you have some
some sentimental value to it, I let you have it.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
What about Voodoo Child? I think Voodoo Child's the better
Jimmy Hendrick song.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
It is, But it's just there's something when you're like
you're riding in the bus and like we would be.
I mean, it was a little odd because we'd be
getting all jacked up to go.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
To mass but like you get the boom boom, boom boom.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
I got a playlist and all that, you know, and
you'd hear like like.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Like rolled up.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
We'd be going in and like oh yeah, I mean no, no, no, no, no,
not not hell, not hell sorry sorry, Father checked up
the pot pray and you go to pray here the eulogy,
and then you'd be walking out a little walk down
to the stadium like I'm.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Back up again, ready to go.

Speaker 6 (02:12):
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your head button each other in the forehead.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Dear, dear, dear, that's all go to my head the
whole time.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
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(02:55):
we got to read on lead to laugh, we know
exactly what he is and who he is. There's been
a development in the saga of Lee to lap. Lee
is now turned into a degenerate horse gambler. On in
the studio right now we have TVG the horse Racing Channel,
and Lee is about to uh, he has got some

(03:17):
interest in what's what's going to be? I believe this
is the fifth race in Bahrain. Two minutes to post.

Speaker 7 (03:28):
And still taking a look. I'm kind of jumping around here.
I was looking at a race in France first, but
now that I've got a.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Like, uh, you know, it feels like you got this
figured out. Lee that's just my just for my two
cents listening to you for the past.

Speaker 7 (03:44):
Oh yeah, I got I got the last place horse yesterday.
So though I think, I uh, I think there's a
prop on that right, you can get you can bet
on the last place horse.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
The question is did you bet on the last horse?

Speaker 4 (03:53):
I did.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
I did bet on the last horse.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
So so wait, so you want you got something?

Speaker 7 (03:58):
I hope. So I got a learning lesson. I learned
something that's you know, that's the moral.

Speaker 5 (04:04):
How do you place a bet for a horse to
go last and then not know if you want anything?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I was kidding.

Speaker 7 (04:10):
I didn't place it. I placed it to win place
or show. But yeah, you finished last place.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
So yeah, a terrible gambler.

Speaker 7 (04:18):
Yeah, I am a terrible gambler.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
That's why I don't gamble, Lee, I would say, if
I'm looking at this right now, just looking at the board,
all right. So we had a we had a change
in the odds on the I mean the seven horses
the favorite. The one horse is the co favorite. I
mean I would take the one horse. You're gonna get
any a little bit more back for your bang or
bang for your buck there with the with the one horse.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Yeah, so we will.

Speaker 7 (04:43):
I'll put on it and win place show.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And by the way, I got five. And by the way,
is his name now? Live bet Lesus?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
Since Live bet Jesus no shows our program because you
guys make fun of him every time he appears.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
We know it's because he loses his bets, all right,
that's why.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Again, I don't know why we have to.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
By the way, Son of Man two dollars on Son
of Man from Ireland.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
That's the one horse and it's from Ireland.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Go wow, he's not gonna get distracted by a something man.

Speaker 6 (05:13):
Nobody brings you live horse race from Bahrain like this
show does.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
That's right, make it rain and Bahrain man.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
First of all, the fact that you could actually do
this just shows you the options for entertainment in this
country that we have at our hands and our fingertips.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Right now, Like how could anybody ever be bored? Like
make it rain and brain, Make it rain and brain.
You're an idiot.

Speaker 7 (05:41):
Almost it with zoom zoom out a great Britain.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
All right.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
So we'll keep you posting on whether or not lead
to lap win some horse race and Bahrain right now.
Nothing like betting on the ponies in the Middle East.
That's always fun, all right. So it is a two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
You know, since the Deshaun Watson in injury took place,
people have decided to go ahead and revisit just how

(06:05):
the old trade went down between the Texans and the
Cleveland Browns. And as it stands right now and listen,
you know, still to be determined, but as it stands
right now, would you say that the Texans fleeced the
Cleveland Browns? Would that be the proper term to use here?
Like would you guys say kind of own them?

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I mean, I'm not saying that bamboozled like bamboos old
whoa very good whoa.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Look, you can't control injuries, all right, wing, So we'll
see how things go. I mean, this is essentially it
was an interesting article that was written yesterday and this
was essentially what they were.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Kind of pull laying out.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
So in exchange for Deshaun Watson, also a twenty twenty
four to fifth round pick which was part of that deal,
gets lost in the shuffle, but it was part of
that deal.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
So we'll see it next year's draft. Who that is.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
The Houston Texans received first round picks in twenty twenty
two last year, twenty twenty three this year, and twenty
twenty four, along with a twenty twenty three to third
round pick and a twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Four to fourth round pick.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
Okay so in exchange for Watson the two undre and
thirty million and a fifth round pick. This is what
the Texans have gotten so far. Last year, they took
offensive guard Kenyan Green all right, he's been a good
player for them in the first round. This year's first
round pick went to edge rusher Will Anderson out of Alabama,
who's solid players so far. And then this year's third

(07:29):
round pick has been tanked Dell, who's arguably one of
the best targets for CJ. Stroud so far in his
phenomenal rookie year. So next year they've got a first
round pick as well as a excuse me, fourth round pick.
I believe unless I type that, it's either fourth or fifth.
Now look at my notes, I'm not sure which, but

(07:49):
I think the general point is, if you're looking at
what the Houston Texans got from this, this is going
to feel a little bit like the trade for was
an RG three and the bounty that the Rams got
versus what Washington got in that case of picks.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
And remember how you used to get.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Like a bunch of you know, players that they took
from that you know, that trade up from the draft
or on the Rams. Now, I think in the end,
neither team ultimately, you know, really won. But I think
most teams feel like when they get more picks, more players,
they have a better shot at being more.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Successful that strategy.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
But it is kind of interesting when you look at
where the Texans are now arguably you know, second in
the AFC South, but a chance to maybe go win
it this year currently in the in the playoffs, have
it started today and then where they could could potentially
go with next year's first.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
Round pick and another pick later on.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
They've done They've done well drafting so far, and they've
put themselves in a spot to be a competitive for years.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Yeah. I look at it and I go, I think, I.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Think the Houston Texans got it bad. I think you
got to go with the Houston Texans. Yeah, yeah, because
in the end, you got rid of a major contract
that Deshaun Watson was carrying and you were able to
move on for for good or for bad. You were

(09:10):
able to move on from a large contract with a
guy that didn't want to be there, and they found
a trade recipient. That's that's That's what I would say,
is because they were able to find a partner and
unload Deshaun Watson and get from underneath that that contract
if I understand it right, because I don't. I don't

(09:31):
understand contracts one hundred percent all the way, but I
would say in my astination, that would be why they
came out on top.

Speaker 5 (09:40):
They didn't get from out underneath the contract. When Watson
got there, they were structure and gave him that contract.
So I mean, technically they got out of.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
The right, but it was still a big tart he
had just you're right, the old one, right, not the
new one. Not the new one. He still had a
very very large contract that he had just signed for
in Houston. Yeah, there's a short term.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
Short term you almost would say like, not only did
they get out from underneath it with a player that
he but which by the way, I mean, regardless of
what took plays off the field, he said before he
didn't want to play there anyway. He didn't want to
play for a Cawn mc near team, so it didn't
look like that was going to work out anyway. So
not only did they get out from underneath the contract,
but they didn't have to pay him. This contract one

(10:26):
that really the Browns can't get out from until twenty
twenty seven, and the cap hits are significant in the
coming years. So from the at least, I guess the
cap perspective, you'd say Houston's in a better spot given
that they've got their franchise quarterback of the future in CJ. Stroud,
even though that wasn't part of the deal, but it's
still opened it up to then taking a quarterback because
they needed one as opposed to, you know, sticking to

(10:49):
a bigger contract and Watson. And then you've got three
picks so far that are all starters, all impactful players
so far. So it will be interesting to see how
this works out moving forward. But I mean, Jonas, I
know we've talked about this in the past, like this
was always the comparison for the Saint Louis Rams and
Washington based on that trade and comparing like all those

(11:11):
players that you know, Saint Louis was able to get
from trading out of that spot with Washington when they
traded up to take RG three.

Speaker 6 (11:18):
Now, it's funny you bring up RG three. Did you
know that, you know, RG three's kind of floating around still.
I don't know if you guys were aware of that,
but that the book deal that apparently that has not
gone through. We were still working and efforting on finishing
that book. But you know, RG three did did kind
of throw his name in the hat, did kind of
let everybody know, like, if the Cleveland Browns need a quarterback,

(11:40):
if they need somebody to kind of help out the situation.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
There in Cleveland. Pick me. Let's listen to the campaign
starring RG three.

Speaker 8 (11:49):
The Browns should sign me as their starting quarterback. And
here's why. One at thirty three years old, I understand
the game better than I ever have in my entire career.
I know how to slot and I know when to slide,
and that was a huge issue in my eight years
in the NFL. But I've learned, I've learned from my
mistakes and am ready to showcase that I can get
it done.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 8 (12:11):
Deshaun Watson went fourteen for fourteen in the second half
against the Baltimore Ravens, and he used his legs to
go out and scramble and extend plays. Of those fourteen passes,
there weren't really any of them that you would say
were two hundred and thirty million dollar worthy passes. All
they needed him to do was manage the game because
of them dogs they got over there on defense, starting

(12:31):
with Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Well, guess what I ain't do.

Speaker 8 (12:34):
That I can go out there and manage a game
for the Cleveland Browns and help them go on the
Super Bowl run that they want to go on.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
But here's the second thing.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
I still run a four to three forty people and
I can.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Throw the football eighty yards.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
I train every week like an NFL football player, so
I could be ready for moments just like this, so
they need to hit my line. And the third thing
is for me. If Dorian Thompson Robinson is going to
be their guy and they don't bring me in to
be the starter, then they should bring me in to
be the backup so I can help him in the
same ways that I help Lamar Jackson. I learned six

(13:08):
offenses in eight years in the NFL.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
Nobody wants to talk about it, but.

Speaker 8 (13:12):
Learning a new offense has never been a problem for me,
and I can help DTR with his decision making when
to make certain plays and truly to understand what he
has to do as a quarterback with a defense like
that on the other side of the football.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Man, what a tool. Good god, Wow, you got to
be Wow.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Let me see this. Yeah, bring him it, sign him up.

Speaker 5 (13:38):
I mean, they're obviously looking for veteran guys. He spent
some time in Cleveland, so he knows the landscape.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I just I find it interesting that.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
I mean, obviously RG three has had a lot to
say sometimes about stuff, so I'm not going to be
person who points out the fact that he completely is
belittle the best half of football that Sean Watson had
during his time in Cleveland so.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Far, everybody on the roster at quarterback, which.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
Is interesting, Like, I want you to sign me, but
I'm gonna be little not only the starter in his
best half of football playing gutsy and bring you back
to a win, but also why PJ Walker? Apparently it's
irrelevant because he knows more football than PJ. Which, look,
he's he played longer than PJ so far, and maybe
he does maybe he can help him that case or

(14:26):
that he needs to be a you know, in there
for dtr instead like I just not necessarily the way.

Speaker 4 (14:32):
You enter into a roster. Look, I'd love to see it.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
I've always I've always said this, like if if guys
are sitting there, you know, wanting to get back in
and play, wanting for the opportunity, whoever it may be, Yeah,
throw him in there.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Let's see what it looks like. Like I like, it's
all fun to talk about. Honestly, didn't know if this
was real or not when it first came out, Like
I don't know if it was like.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
Not not even a deep fake.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
I thought like it might have been a skid or something,
or maybe something they're doing for like a podcast story show.
That's what I thought initially. But it seems like he
really wants it, so sign him up. And then other
thing is like it's almost like he spits in the
face of like Andrew Barry too for whatnot and giving
him a call or not, like like he's got your number,
like they know who you are, Like if they want you,

(15:20):
they'll call.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
LeVar. I mean, this is your guy, So what's going on?

Speaker 5 (15:26):
By the way, I hope he doesn't get like sensitive
about people commenting on It's like you put it out there.
Once you put something out there like this, it's open
for anyone and everyone to say whatever they feel and
like people and if he's gonna be upset about like
people being critical, but it's like, well, that's kind of
on you, man, Like no one asked you to do that,
like you're advertising, Like you could just call the team.

(15:48):
You could call Stefanso, call Andrew Barry. I'm sure you
could get their numbers and make that happen. If you're like, hey, man,
let's just bring me in for work. I don't tell anyone,
you know, and let's see what I can do. But
that's not the point.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
The point is is to put it out there so
that everyone can hear it. Like he made it very clear,
like why do why does no one talk about what
RG three did for for Lamar Jackson, Like because nobody cares.
I mean that that would be the reason why nobody
is talking about what you did for Lamar Jackson and

(16:22):
other things that you've done at this point, because nobody cares.
I mean, once you're done, you're done. And that's just
generally how it happens for everybody that place. But you
know that's I mean, I'm with you, cute, give him
a chance, see what he can do. I mean, I
would say that's this isn't this isn't as laughable if
if it was Kaepernick doing it at this point. I mean,

(16:45):
there is some legitimacy here to it.

Speaker 6 (16:48):
What's what's laugh laughable is the lack of self awareness
that he doesn't like in the whole process. Because it's edited,
it's it's on RG three and the ones. That's that's
the credit here, it's edited, it's put together. He's being serious,
and at no point during the process does he realize, Okay,
I'm basically driving a bus over Deshaun Watson, I'm driving

(17:11):
a bus over PJ. Walker and Dorian Thompson Robinson please
sign me like they're just at no point that that
entered into his mind. Like that blows my mind that
that's that this is the thought process for him. But hey,
that's our.

Speaker 4 (17:25):
Unique way of doing it. Man, It's a different route
to get there.

Speaker 5 (17:28):
I mean, he look, he spent a year in Cleveland,
he spent time in Baltimore. He knows the AFC North Division,
which I think is important because you got to know
the Brandon style of football and the weather and throwing
those conditions. So, like I said, I mean, it's been
on a few years. What was the last season at
twenty twenty?

Speaker 6 (17:42):
Oh no, let's go, all right, let's make let's go,
let's make it happen. All right, that'll be uh a
chapter I'm teen in his book will be strategy.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Yeah it is. Is this gonna get in the way
of the book.

Speaker 3 (17:59):
You think I don't know? And now it's going to
relate to another chapter.

Speaker 4 (18:03):
I think it's another chapter.

Speaker 6 (18:04):
Yeah, it's still being written. It's going to delay it
even longer. It is Two Pros and a Cup of
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(18:25):
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Speaker 9 (18:30):
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Speaker 6 (19:45):
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again twenty minutes from now here on FSR. A quick
update here on an in show storyline that we have

(20:07):
been monitoring and tracking this hour. Before we get to
Quinn's wins, Lee to Lap been on a horse race
overseas and his horse finished so far out of first
place that he may have been shot on his way
to the finish line.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I don't know what happened.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Did they bring out the white sheet?

Speaker 2 (20:28):
No, but I mean like the one.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Horse was just nowhere to be found.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
Yeah, he was out of frame.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yeah, so there's that comes out the factory.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
No, but I mean if he had, but he probably
finished better than what he did, uh, standing on all
fours at the end of this thing.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
You know they called him animal athletes?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Do they really the people? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (20:50):
Yeah, they do. One of our like the commentators, like,
you know, we have an animal athlete down like horses.
I mean, no pun intended.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
Yeah, I'm telling you man.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
The fact that you could bet on the ponies at
any point, anytime during the day, no matter where you are,
it's just so much fun. I did that during COVID
my wife realized. This is when she realized I had
a problem. It was a Saturday night during COVID, there
was nothing else going on, and before we started a movie,
I was betting on a horse race in Japan. Everybody

(21:24):
was wearing masks. I think the horses might have had
N ninety five's on. And I actually won that race.
I won like seventeen bucks. How about that? And she
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Speaker 5 (22:02):
Yeah yeah, yeah, more gamboy, more gampboy. As we do
each and every week, try to give you my best
picks for the Top twenty five matchups, teams squaring offers
one another, And I'm gonna start this week in the
state of Kansas. The sun Flowers showdown Kansas and Kansas State.

(22:24):
And look, this is a rivalry game, and it's really
we're one of our Both teams. You can maybe say
haven't been both you know, good or both the top
the Big Twelve, but that's not the case here. Kansas
State and Kansas two of the better teams the Big
Twelve this season. Kansas State still an opportunity to potentially
go on to represent or I should say, win the
Big Twelve championship at this point. But a lot of

(22:46):
interesting things going on here between these two teams. If
anyone who's watched Kansas, by the way, one of the
most creative offenses you'll see Lance Leipol and his staff
put together every single week.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
It's a ton of fun to watch.

Speaker 5 (22:57):
And the job that Chris Clemban's done is one of
the reasons why both coaches have been mentioned for jobs
like Texas and m and I'm sure other openings that'll
be coming up, but let's just talk about the quarterbacks.
So that's ultimately gonna be the difference in this game.
Kansas State's got Will Howard, a quarterback who's thrown for
three touchdown passes in five games so far this season,

(23:17):
had a big game last week versus Baylor, and even
in the lost two weeks ago in overtime versus Texas,
played well four touchdown passes over three out of yards passing.
That's been the stable consistent piece for Kansas State, and
in contrast to Kansas not the case Jalen Daniels. They're
starting quarterbacks miss six games this season.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
He actually just.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
Announced he's coming back to kate A twenty four seasons,
so that's good for Jayhawks.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Hawks fans.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
However, their backup Jason Bean, who has played well. He
exited last week for his Texas Tech with a head injury.
We're not sure he's going to get the go or not.
Lance Leipold was optimistic and Jason Bean, no doubt makes
the difference. However, if he doesn't go, you'll see Cole Ballard.
Does that name sound familiar to you guys, Well, sure,

(24:03):
that's the Colts general manager Chris Ballard side. So he
came in last week versus Texas Tech almost led, almost
led Kansas to a comeback win unfortunately didn't work out.
So if it's not Jason Beid, it will be Cole Ballard.
But for me, too much indecision When you're looking at
who's gonna be starting quarterback.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
It's a big number. Kansas State is.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Laying nine and a half, but I'm gonna lay the
nine and a half here not knowing what's gonna happen
at the quarterback spot for Kansas.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
All right, let's go to the Pac twelve. We got
a big one.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Washington the only undefeated team right now in the Pac twelve,
probably their greatest chance even though they're outside of the
top four of getting the playoff. They're heading to core
Vallis to take on the number eleven Oregon State be
of us, and this is where we usually dreams and
hopes go to die. The difference in this one is
really the balance of offense that Washington's put.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
On display the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 5 (24:57):
Dylan Johnson has gone off and really provided a more
of a one to two punch. We know how good Michael
Pennix is. He's going to be a Heisman finalist. They're
a talented wide receiver. They'll be able to create some
big plays, but as compared to Oregon State, dj.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Uiyungoalles played well this year.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
They're gona want to run the football with Martinez and
Fenwick in the backfield, and even though Washington's defense struggled,
I think this is one where you take the point,
you take Washington.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
They don't need the point. They're going to win.

Speaker 5 (25:23):
Outright and remain undefeated in this case, and last game
a big one in the SEC. Georgia heads to Knoxville
to take on the Tennessee Volunteers, who've started off now
in a rut, and George is really putting their foot
on the accelerator. Brock Bauers was backed last week and
leads all tight ends in the country at seventy five receiving.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
Yards per game.

Speaker 5 (25:42):
Ladi McConkey has been going off since he returned from
injury earlier this season. He's had the past three games
over ninety yards receiving. Carson Beck I don't know what
we give enough credit guys. He stole for over three
hundred yards per game right now. Great touchdown interception ratio
really picking up where Stet's have Benett left off, and
the Dogs defense still are some dogs, and we saw

(26:03):
some flaws with Tennessee obviously getting pounded by Missou the
largest margin of defeat that we've seen under Josh Heipel
in his career. There at Tennessee. You wonder where their
head's at. Obviously not really playoff implications on the line here.
They can't go to the SEC championship game. You wonder
how that's going to work out. I'm laying the ten
points with Georgia on the road to continue their domination.

Speaker 4 (26:27):
They're the best team in football right now.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
And then quickly sorry, one more, Utah headed to Tucson
to take on the Wildcats. What a story Jet Fish
and his crew have been so far this year. And
how about this Noah Fafeta, the freshman quarterbacks come in
and it's lit up the Pac twelve and replace of
Jane Deloria. But in this case, Utah to me bounces
back tough loss first Washington last week. I think they
find a way of putting up some points, putting up

(26:49):
just enough to be able to beat Arizona.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
In some books, this game is at a pick.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Him right now, So I'm picking Kyle Whittingham and Utah
responding and rebounding after a loss to Washington just a week.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
And if you think somebody else can do it better,
you're a candy ass.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Nobody.

Speaker 3 (27:10):
Yes week, aren't we Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Saying, man, I was surprised you didn't highlight Iowa. You know, well.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
Thirty and a half number sixteen Iowa.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
It's not it's not it's not a top twenty five matchup.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, it's got to be twenty five on twenty five.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah, we've got twenty.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
One, twenty five five on eleven, twenty two or seventeen
one on one on what eighteen?

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Now I think Tennessee's rank.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Now, the the over under on that Iowa Illinois game
is thirty and a half, like shootout? Shouldn't you just
bet the over?

Speaker 3 (27:44):
Justing?

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Did they just play a game where it was twenty
eight and a half.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Versus Rutgers last well.

Speaker 6 (27:48):
It's been historic Like the last three weeks they've been
telling eating themselves every week Minnesota if they ruckers Northwestern
in Illinois.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm a confused. The two is that
you were saying, what was the Rutgers won last week?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
For Saiowa twenty eight and a half.

Speaker 11 (28:05):
They've all been thirty or under the last four weeks.

Speaker 5 (28:07):
I think, yeah, yeah, so wait, Sam, so is that accurate?

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Was it twenty twenty eight and a half? What was it?

Speaker 12 (28:12):
I can't even remember. It's just been I think they
sty've been setting new records, honestly.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Okay, because you tried to throw it like, oh no, no, no, no,
that was Northwest.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
Oh no, I was just saying, I was just naming
the games where they've had these historically low on Okay.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
I've got one book that it closed at twenty seven
and a half last week for Iowa Rutgers.

Speaker 11 (28:30):
And they hit the under because the pint.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
And by the way, we should we should acknowledge this
that Cooper.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Dejane, the outstanding cornerback, defensive back and returner for Iowa,
out for the rest of the season, or at least
out for the rest of the regular season.

Speaker 12 (28:46):
Yeah, and he's not gonna play if Iowa makes a
Big Ten title game, he won't play, right.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
But he could potentially game. But I don't know if
there's a point at that point.

Speaker 11 (28:54):
I've heard he's a he could be a first rounder.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
He's he's looked at it that way. I think it's
really more interesting.

Speaker 5 (28:59):
That he's impact the offense for Iowa. You know, he
doesn't play offense necessarily unless.

Speaker 11 (29:03):
He's played a little. He's done like two plays a
couple of games.

Speaker 5 (29:06):
No, but but you get the point, right. You know
he's not on the field. He has less of a
chance to.

Speaker 11 (29:11):
Score, absolutely, because he can set it. He can set
it you up in good field position.

Speaker 5 (29:15):
Not even set you up, heal. He can actually take
it to the house.

Speaker 11 (29:17):
He can take it to the house.

Speaker 12 (29:18):
He can take it to the house, take it to
the house, and that's a huge loss for Iowa.

Speaker 6 (29:22):
But you know, I've changed my tune on Iowa. I
determined this last week just with how his like history
every single week when it comes to the totals, at
least with Iowa, you know what you get.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
You know, I love it.

Speaker 6 (29:34):
I swear to God, like I just started to rethink
and recalibrate, like how.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Close can they get to the over under without going
over but winning? You know what I'm saying, I like,
you were oppressive.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
You want somebody that's consistent, all right. Inconsistency is frustrating.
Iowa's consistent this is who we are. We're going to
play really good defense. We're not going to score, and
it's not going to be the most entertaining game. But
we're gonna win nine ten games a year, and we're
going to represent our side of the Big Ten of
the conference championship game.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (30:02):
Iowa had four hundred and three yards of offense last week.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
How about that.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
That's the That's the thing, Sam. We don't want to
score a lot of points. We won production.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
We want a Howtkeyes fans feel good about the offense
and obviously winning, they want a ton of points. We
can't cross that line of hitting overs.

Speaker 10 (30:23):
Er.

Speaker 12 (30:23):
Oh wow, I'd prefer that they could score more than
thirty once in a while.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
That'd be nice.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
You're gonna get a ten wins season out of this,
and that's what you're gonna get.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Buddy. It's great. Feel good about it is great?

Speaker 4 (30:34):
You know they feel good about it.

Speaker 12 (30:35):
Kirk Ferrence is now third all time in Big Ten
wins in history. He's with Amos Alonzo Stag and either
Woody Hayes or bow Sham Buckler, and he passed or
he's either tied or passed.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Bow Shamp is he really third all time? Yeah, wins,
that's crazy.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Why is that surprising? He's been there forever. I know,
longest ten year head coaching was it.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Ninety ninety got there, yeah, ninety nine.

Speaker 11 (30:52):
But since twenty fifteen, they've won a lot of games.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
They've won.

Speaker 11 (30:55):
They're winning like seventy four percent of their games since
the last eight years.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
I got news.

Speaker 5 (30:58):
I think they're only second? Is it Ohio State?

Speaker 12 (31:01):
No, there's third behind Michigan and ohiose Day. I think, yeah, yeah,
I got news for you. Nate Stanley's not walking through
that door. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio and coming up next here it
is a Friday tradition here on the show during the
NFL season. We spread them picks against the spread in
Week eleven in the National Football League, and they are
yours right here on FSR.

Speaker 9 (31:21):
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a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 13 (31:31):
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Speaker 3 (31:46):
It's two pros and a Cup of Joe.

Speaker 6 (31:48):
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being sold a bill of goods. We'll go with that,
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another bamboozling potentially here in the in the NFL. We'll

(32:10):
get into that for you again coming up a little
over twelve minutes from now before we get to our
picks against the spread though, quick update on the horse
racing and Bahrain And this is a bad look for
jockeys everywhere. I feel the horse that just won the
last race did it after it threw the jockey off itself.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
So no counts, right, I don't know, but shouldn't it?

Speaker 6 (32:35):
But like the fact that that horse basically did it
on its own, Like, do you even need jockeys at
this point?

Speaker 5 (32:41):
I think it's like a valid question. I mean, don't
can't we put like a chip in the brains of
these horse?

Speaker 4 (32:46):
I know they got big heads already?

Speaker 5 (32:47):
Yeah, can we put a chip in there and just
like have them deal without having to deal with the jockeys.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
May as well at this point.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
Or do you feel like you need the jockeys just
for the look of it?

Speaker 5 (32:56):
You know, maybe we put on like little, you know,
fake jockeys just to make it look.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Like there'shounds don't need jockeys.

Speaker 5 (33:04):
But they've never had jockeys though either look weird. It
looks weird.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
I haven't they used monkeys for for greyhounds before? No,
I have not ever seen that.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
I think I know lebar By the Way and Lamar
I have seen that. I believe it's on. Is it
not pig racing? But there's something where they do put
monkeys on the back of an animal. Is it like
monkeys riding a little dog?

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yes, it is a gift.

Speaker 11 (33:32):
No, I've seen a gift of a monkey riding a
little dog?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
Was that Iowa? Sam?

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Is that what that was? The Iowa State Fair?

Speaker 6 (33:43):
They got monkeys riding around on John Deere's It's called.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
The Banana Derby with the monkeys writing with.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Dogs the Banana Derby.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Can we bet on that that's an I's going to.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I'm not quite sure.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
Lee. You might have a problem, dude.

Speaker 7 (34:09):
He is always brawled there's always room for more problems.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
Oh man, that's a great point.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
All right.

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Speaker 9 (34:29):
Five lines, not those kind of lines. Five picks, five spreads.
Time for picks against the spread.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
All right, lead to lap. What happened last week?

Speaker 7 (34:44):
By the way, I'm taking Iceberg theory four horse in
this next Wexford race?

Speaker 4 (34:48):
All right?

Speaker 7 (34:48):
Why I all right?

Speaker 4 (34:49):
Guys?

Speaker 7 (34:49):
Last week we had forty nine ers at Jaguars. Forty
nine ers were three point favorites Brady and LeVar. You
guys correctly predicted that one where they blew out the
Jags thirty four to three. We had browns.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Yeah, but I was on the right side of that. No,
you were, I mean, you don't even know what that means.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Well, like, you know, Jacksonville was the right pick. They
just didn't show up something.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I thought.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
That's the Pete Prisco.

Speaker 4 (35:12):
God, yeah he does.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
By the way, Pete heard about us talking about him,
and he was like aspect go, yeah, I go. I
was like our coast Jodan, and he says he was
on the right side of it, and he's like what
I was.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
He's like, tell him he's right, tell him he's right.

Speaker 6 (35:27):
I was like, okay, hey, we didn't get Pete on.
We should get him on one time.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
He'll call in. He's up early. The guy never sleeps
Pete Prisco alright.

Speaker 7 (35:39):
Speaking of a team that should have won. Ravens blew
their lead against the Browns, but LaVar was the only
one who correctly took the Browns in that game. Ravens
had the six and a half point here we go
favorites in that I know.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
I know because he saw that one happen. Yeah, I
lead fourteen with eight minutes left. Hey, man, don't be
an RG three Q. I don't know what that even means.
I mean, you're gonna try to like downplay my pick
like it was my pick. Don't don't try to like
create Oh and LeVar saw that that's that's actually RG

(36:14):
three is. I was actually more leaning into it. Jonas
just said, LaVar, you were on the right side of it. Yeah, okay,
you were on damn.

Speaker 12 (36:22):
Yeah, I'm with you damn Jonas and Brady, you got
with you RGQ.

Speaker 7 (36:30):
Jonas and Brady, you guys were both correct that Minnesota
would upset the Saints led by Dobbs, and you guys
were also right that Dallas would cover on that on
that seventeen point favorites over the Giants's I mean.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Dude, that game and I wasn't in any of those.

Speaker 7 (36:46):
No, you took the Giants and you took.

Speaker 4 (36:48):
The Saints that game. I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
That that should have been two hundred and seventeen. The
Giants are so bad.

Speaker 7 (36:59):
And then round it all off, you guys we had
the last game was Lions were three point favorites over
the Chargers. That ended up being a push. Detroit won
that game forty one to thirty eight.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
So what are we looking at?

Speaker 7 (37:08):
So Brady won last week Week eleven three, LeVar and Jonas,
you guys both went to to.

Speaker 4 (37:13):
I don't want to play the game anymore. I don't
want to play the scame that men neither.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
I quit, But LeVar still holds a command e league.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Oh no, no, I'm still in. I'm still in. I'm
still in.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Alright, Ley, what do we gotta apologize for?

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Week eleven.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Now with this game, Cowboys and Panthers.

Speaker 7 (37:31):
Cowboys are ten and a half point favorites on the
road in Carolina.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Taking the play and the points I'm playing them.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
I'll take Carolina. I feel a backdoor cover Cowboys.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
Right home to that. It was ten I think earlier
may yet.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
It's just this is one of those games where the
Cowboys just kind of, you know, show off and get
through it.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
Steelers and Browns Battle of the six and threes in
the AFC North.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
Browns are a point and a half favorites at home.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
The Browns are a point a half favorite. Yep, I'll
take I'll take the Steelers.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
I'll take the Steelers. I hate a minute that too.
I hate it. I'm tell you you know what, Steelers forget.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
I said that. I'm gonna lay the point a half
of the Brownies. Brownies. Sticking with the Brownies, I love it.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Raiders and Dolphins.

Speaker 7 (38:20):
Dolphins thirteen point favorites at home.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Oh good Dolphins. I'll take the Dolphins. The Raiders stink.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
This was what like eleven, eleven and a half, it's
already but thirteen.

Speaker 7 (38:29):
Yep, undefeated at home.

Speaker 4 (38:30):
The Dolphins off the by I'll lay the points of
the Dolphins. I'm laying the points as well.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Buccaneers at forty nine, Ers.

Speaker 7 (38:40):
Niners twelve point favorites at home against the Bucks.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
God, I'll taking. I'm gonna take points there too. I'm
taking the points of the Bucks.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Yeah, I'm taking the Bucks too.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Last one Viking said Broncos.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Bronco's two point favorites at home, Denver.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Give you the Vikings. Give it the Vikings, Denver's back.
Give me the Bronco.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah,
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