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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
Coming up on this Monday edition.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Of course, we're going to look back on Sunday Night
football between the Broncos and the Minnesota Vikings. But we
must start with a disaster that is the Pittsburgh Steelers offense.
But are they actually still in pole position for a
playoff spot?

Speaker 2 (00:21):
We'll discuss that.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
We're going to talk about a new threat to the
AFC South Crown. We're also going to talk about the
Zach Wilson benching. What the hell is next for the
New York Jets at the quarterback position. Brandon Staley is
fed up and frustrated. We've got some history starring a
Cowboys defensive back. What to make of the Seattle Seahawks
following their loss? And all those Brock Purty hot takes

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are already here.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
How about that? Really? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
The status it just just pops right up, you know,
all of a sudden, it's it's Thanksgiving week and here
we go, oh yeah, and it feels like, uh, some
teams have got some issues to sort through during the
holiday week here.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
I mean, so they're not very thankful in their giving.
I mean, I mean, if you need some help right now,
if that means you've been thankfully giving games away, I'd say, uh,
I'm forgiving.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I think that it's pretty neat, pretty cool of the
Pittsburgh Steelers to thankfully be giving away, give.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
It away to a backup quarterback that ain't got no stats.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
And just just giving away poor offense week after week here.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Brady, you take a when you take a when everybody
it's the holiday season, Coop, you take a when.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
I'd be that was AFC North Football. That wasn't even AFC,
that was AFC Central Foot to a T. Was it
just old school thirteen ten?

Speaker 4 (03:10):
The frustration on that team, huh.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Yeah, a lot of people very upset about what that
game was looking like. Naji Harris was one of them.
The Steelers running back Nasei Harris. He spoke after the
game about his frustrations with the offense and just sort
of where the Steelers were at. Uh so, let's hear
from the Steelers running back. This was a post game

(03:34):
from Naji Harris.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Look at the records and say, Okay, we're so good
right now. We're look at the record and be.

Speaker 6 (03:40):
Like if we keep playing this type of football, how
long is it last?

Speaker 5 (03:46):
I look at it like how long is it last?
You know, gopamo at it like it's a good record.
But I mean it's the NFL.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know, it's.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Winning Like how we did it is not on It's
not gonna get us nowhere.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Like the other teams know what's coming.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Yeah, sen situations.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
To be honest with you, I mean I could just
talk about my performance talking with the teams that you know,
for my players got back.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I couldn't.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
I'm not going to get things going. It seems like
every time.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
You know, I got it, like it was just the
defense was just you know, playing a to take me
in the minds my roles and dad just familiar to
my guy. Coming out of the second half, it was
just just can't get none going. Lucky they Jalen got going.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
So that was Najia Harris, the Steelers running back, just
venting a little bit about the team.

Speaker 7 (04:39):
How much of his frustration has to do with how
his role is being impacted as compared to Jalen Warren,
who did go off in that game.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
I mean, he ran well, he caught well.

Speaker 7 (04:50):
It seemed like for Najia Harris when he was out there,
they just they kind of couldn't get anything going when
they're trying to get him the ball. How much of
that do you think has to play a role in it.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't I don't know. I just don't think he's
as productive. And I think that when you look at
the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's almost like it could almost come
across as like a Tony Pollard Ezekiel Elliott type of situation,
even though I think that Naji Harris still obviously is
still young in his career, but they want to stop

(05:23):
Nase Harris. If you just stop Naji Harris, I feel
like teams feel like they can control the game, at
least offensively. They can control the game, That's what I think.
So I think that they might get more productivity from,
you know, other people because they're just looking to stop him.

Speaker 7 (05:43):
Right, I guess the way I was kind of describing
it because if you go back and look, it's like
Warren's starting to get more touches too, right, Like he's
starting to become more of a prime part of the offense.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
At least over the course of the season.

Speaker 7 (05:58):
You know, he's kind of been I'm not saying the
bell cow back, but he's definitely been the more productive
back of the two. And you know, Harris had twelve
carries for thirty five yards. When they need something, that's
like when Warren goes in, he provides them that. And
and I think that was the thing about Nause is
Nase is the type of guy you can get targets
to out of the backfield and you know, trying to

(06:19):
throw some screens whatever. It just it hasn't really been
the case this year. Just hasn't worked. So I do
think it's I do think it's part of Part of
that is the frustrating part.

Speaker 4 (06:29):
But I also think, like man outgained again. How many games? Now?
Is that is that every single game for the Steelers?

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah? I think so it's at least yeah, I think
every game this year they've been on offense out gained,
which I mean, like, at least you know what you're
getting after.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
Going to bed.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
It's that consistency we're talking about.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
I also would, yeah, if you would have flipped Nase
Harris's numbers.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
With Warren, because he's saying that after.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
They probably not, so I think there's part of it is. Yeah,
it's frustrating that our offense continues to struggle. But also
I'd like to eat if I could, because if I'm
gonna be elsewhere coming up, you know, in a year
or two, I'd at least like to know he's still
on his first contract, right, Yeah, Yeah, that's the other thing.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Yeah, he wants he wants, like you said, he wants
to get get food off the table. I mean the kid,
the kid. Warren has gone over one hundred yards a
couple of times this year.

Speaker 7 (07:27):
He averages almost a yard more per attempt, and he's
he's about one hundred yards off of Nazi in the year.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
But he's got half the attempts.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
And Nasi hasn't gone over one hundred, not one time.
He's not hit the century mark one time this season.
That's got to be frustrating. It's got to be frustrating.
If you're that type of type of back down. Najie
Harris is has Canny Pickett throw for a hundred yards
yet almost cursed on. I told you I need my
dump button. Keep the dump button close. Look, I don't know.

(07:57):
My uncle went ham on social media over picket yesterday. Boy,
just you gotta see the goddamn failed What you doing
out there? You just got it fighting and simple.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
You gotta see the mother.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Of the faild cool h Come on, man, let him live? Huh.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
Pittsburgh Steelers fans are frustrated, just like Nagi is.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
I was looking at just the AFC playoff picture and
just kind of seeing, Okay, well, who's where, where's everybody
at when it comes to wild card seating and all that?
And I'm looking at it going, yeah, you know, the
Steelers of the final wildcard spot, but I think the
Bills are going to overtake them. And then I just
continue to look at the Steelers schedule down the stretch,

(08:44):
and they've got really really bad teams coming.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
On that they're playing. Bills are backpolar man, and they are.

Speaker 1 (08:51):
But I just I wonder if somehow, some way, even
with whatever you call this offense for Pittsburgh. They're gonna
figure out a way to slide into that seven seed
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's just what they do. I don't know why, but
it just seems like that's just what they do.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Like what options are left to add offensively? Like if
this is is this just this is where we're at.
This is the way it's gonna go the entire year.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
That's it. That's it. So they got to rely on
their defense and hope that their offense can provide some
type of production. So it looks like like that's just
where it is. But that's how it has been for
what the last couple of years, last couple of seasons. So,
I mean, I'm with you, Q. I mean I heard

(09:36):
that the very skeptical I don't know I and I
agree with that. Conventional wisdom says to say they're they're
not going to finish strong and they probably will miss
the playoffs. But for some strange reason, I don't know,
they don't miss the playoffs. He didn't miss the playoffs
last year, did he?

Speaker 4 (09:56):
No? He just doesn't than last year.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Hell no. But I don't think they're worse than last
year either though. That's the thing. So I don't know.

Speaker 7 (10:07):
I think what's changed is the competition for a wild
card spot out around them, Like the Texans are a
playoff team. Stroud as the MVP right now. The three
games he's put together are phenomenal and really the entire
season when you look at it, and so Jacksonville may

(10:27):
win still win the AFC South if Houston doesn't catch them,
but that's a playoff team right now, the way they're
running the ball to Devin Singletary of the past two games.
And then you start looking at the AFC North, like
Cleveland's one ahead of them. Now they're three and two
in the division. They've got the better record as it
stands right now. I just I kind of look at

(10:49):
it and I'm like, all right, I mean they split
this season, So it really comes down to then how
Pittsburgh's able to finish in the division because Cleveland's I
think they've played five games within the division at three
and two, and they get to play. By the way,
if I'm not mistaken, Week eighteen, last game of the season,

(11:09):
they're in Cincinnati.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
We know Burrow's not there for that.

Speaker 7 (11:12):
So they go four and two in the division, they're
probably staying ahead. So you're not probably passing them. You're
gonna have to make sure you compee with some of
the other teams in the AFC playoff picture. And Denver
now all of a sudden, it's on a hot streak
four wins in a row against good teams too.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Mind you.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
I think that the first team to win three in
a row versus teams that win thirteen.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Games are more than the year before. Like they're rolling now,
and there.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
Are five hundred, so there's a lot of teams that
to Naji Harris's point, when you look at the record,
it's not like that record.

Speaker 4 (11:43):
It's that far off from everyone nipping out their heels.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, I mean they might not be nipping out their heels.
They might be biting their ass. I mean they ain't
got they don't have no breathing room. They really don't.
And it just doesn't seem like it's a team that
is is improving and critical aspects of the game, and

(12:06):
it just seems very evident when you watch them play,
and to not be playing or trending, like what you
said about Denver, to not be trending at least in
the right direction at this time during the year and
November that's just you got to be very concerned. If

(12:26):
you're Mike Tomlin, you got to be very concerned. You
can hear the concern in Nasey Harris's voice. You just
got to be concerned. If you're a Steeler, Well, let's
hear from Mike Tomlin.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
This was a Steelers head coach talking about the offensive
struggles yesterday.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
We'll learn from this.

Speaker 8 (12:43):
We'll do so while absorbing the l because that's what
you're doing, this thing, and we'll be back.

Speaker 9 (12:48):
What do you have to do to get your offense
scoring one big play today?

Speaker 8 (12:51):
Other than that, you know, they got a really good
defense man. They make a lot of offenses look like that.
Couple with their venue, you know, we got to give
them some credit. We knew their reputation in Week two.
Maybe the rest of the National Football League didn't, but
you know it's kind of been confirmed in the in
the weeks after that, and obviously they're really good today.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
So there's there's Mike Tomas, very politically correct and well stated,
you know, antidote or reason for everything.

Speaker 4 (13:16):
I love. Look, I love Mike t I do. I
think he's a great coach.

Speaker 7 (13:20):
I do like he's and and Honestly, everyone's got everyone's
got like a weakness, his loyalty.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
And you know what, I can't fault him for that. Man,
if he's loyal to Matt.

Speaker 7 (13:33):
Canada in this offense, good for him. I think it
probably empowers a lot of coaches to feel like they
can take chances, take risks, make mistakes. Now in this case,
you almost wish Matt Canada would try to make more mistakes.
But here's the reality is Pittsburgh goes to Cincinnati next week.
They're they're playing against the Bengals with a backup quarterback.

(13:54):
I mean Arizona now with Kyler back, they look much
more competitive. But then they got New England after that,
So you'd say the next three, I mean, it's a
winnable schedule. I mean Indie after that, Cincinnati again, their
schedule sets up outside of how they finished against NATI Baltimore,
their schedule sets up to get them at least nine wins,

(14:14):
maybe ten wins over the course of the next five games.
So I mean, to your point, like they might get
in nine and eight, ten and seven as a wildcard team.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
I just it's like, well, they're not really going anywhere.
It doesn't feel like it.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Welcome to Pittsburgh.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
I do like the media is week after week attempt
to try and get Tomlin to throw Matt Cannon under
the bus, though, I.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Do like it there, or at least they're just get
something to say that's that's derogatory towards your offense. Yeah,
it's just isn't that.

Speaker 7 (14:50):
The hardest thing to do though, is when in a
grand they didn't win in this case, but let's say
they get to ten and seven, they get in the
playoffs as a wildcard team. Isn't that one of the
hart what things to do is to make change even
though you're still viewed as maybe successful to a degree.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Man, we lose two games a year in state college,
and these mother efforts want to fire the coach, Like, hell, yeah,
you're going to be resistant to change when you're having
a high level of success. But when that high level
of success is showing a ceiling, then people don't like
that s at all. Yeah, and then and then if

(15:30):
it continues on, it's like, well, our results in the
grand scheme of things, and I'm speaking on Pittsburgh right now,
our results in the Grand scheme of things are positive results.
We are getting our team in the playoffs, and for
all intentsive purposes, you would have to assume you're saying
to yourself as a team, once you get in, anything
can happen. So if we're giving ourselves the opportunity to

(15:52):
play in the tournament, then why would I change what
I'm doing. I'm actually closer to success than I am
to failure with with being able to do that. If
that's your if that's your thought process, then the course
is going to be hard to say I want to
go in a different direction. You built that rapport. You
know who he is, he knows who you are. You know,

(16:13):
one of the biggest things in football is trust. Like,
look at what's going on in Michigan. Won't nobody roll
over on on hardball. Everybody's going out with with their
mouths zipped up. Everybody. So to me, when you have that,
you know, yeah, right. So so when you when you're

(16:33):
when you're in the trenches with guys, you're going to
have a different a different feeling for who they are.
You're not going to be as susceptible or open to
letting outside people violate your family like your people. So
I get where Tomlin is coming from, But I also
get where the fans are coming from as well, because
if you see the inevitability of a team going to

(16:56):
come up short, and it's going to come up short
because of the things that a fan is saying. For
the few times that a fan may actually have some
accuracy and be right on what it is that they
have a strong opinion about, that becomes very difficult for coach.
I would assume to navigate that when it's not them,
because then it becomes them. If they don't make them
and make a move on it, it goes from that

(17:18):
other entity to them themselves as the entity that's under fire.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
I almost think like coaches, like everyone's doubting them, you know,
everyone the outside saying that they can't do it. They're
not there, they're whatever, And they just keep fighting away,
you know, and they just look at the guys in
the room.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
They're like, we found a way. You know, we did
it once again.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
I'm telling you that they have the same unis as Iowa,
and they remind me so much of the Steelers in
Iowa in college football are the exact same team somehow
some way, same UNI, same color scheme, same everything, just defense,
run the ball a little bit punt it, hope you

(17:57):
complete a pass by for some feel then and then
here we go. You just win, and then Mike Tomlin's
gonna finish with a winning record again like he did
last year. And and this is just that he does
every year and that's how this team works. That's how
this team goes. So uh yeah, it will be uh
we will monitor the situations for those of you fire
Matt Canada folks out there that want that done.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
I will let you know to Mike as you said,
fire Mike Tomlin too. Now they don't just say fire
Mac Canada. They do. Mike would say that he'd be
out of work for eight seconds.

Speaker 7 (18:29):
Literally, he wouldn't even be out of work, like it
would just be like a natural transition into the next job.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
And he'd go win them a super Bowl. And they
never have a losing season either.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
So people skip purgatory.

Speaker 4 (18:41):
He didn't need it. But he's a Hall of Fame coach.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Yeah, he's a.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Hall of Fame coach. He's never had a losing season
and he's.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
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was a fun game last night on Sunday Night Football,
And I mean, can we officially say it and you know,
no offense to our friends listening on the Yalla Horn
of the Twin Cities k Fan right now. The Josh
Dobbs story has been a great story. It looked like
Minnesota is going to win that game. But Russell Wilson
just throws it up to Courtland Sutton in the corner
of end zones and he just continues to make plays

(21:20):
and the Denver Broncos.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Get it done.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Would have been nice if they would have converted that
two point conversion. That would have helped some people out
there who might have had Denver minus two and a half.
That would have been nice, but unfortunately it didn't happen.
On the flip side, the Denver Broncos, though, do win again,
and all of a sudden, Sean Payton's finding a little something.
See they got a little something going there. Defense is

(21:43):
playing well. Russ is not playing like he did last year.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now all of a sudden, his harsh comments early on,
aren't aren't looking so crazy bad?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Can we can we go back a step? Do you
want to say that Russ is playing how.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
He's just not playing like he did last year?

Speaker 4 (21:59):
So you're not gonna give any credit right now?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Well, no, I mean he's playing better, but it's not
the same Russell Wilson we saw in Seattle years ago.

Speaker 7 (22:07):
It's I mean, as far as the fourth quarter comeback,
the fourth down conversion of suddon the touchdown passed the
sudden like those are those are Russell Wilson esque type plays.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
I mean, I'll say this much. He's played over the
four game win streak.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
As a top I mean statistically speaking, top five, top
ten quarterback.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
He's he's played that well.

Speaker 7 (22:30):
I think we tend to forget sometimes you get a
new coach, like last year, and you had a head
coach in that instance where first time head coach, clearly
Nathaniel Hackett was it over his head in some ways
and that became very apparent, and LaVar, you just said it,
like the comments of Sean Payne before the season and
what he was planning to do with his team.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
It took some time. It took time, but they are
a they're second in the ANFC West.

Speaker 7 (22:56):
They're in striking distance of getting into the playoffs as
a wildcard, because you have to build a six and
five Colts at five and five and Broncos sitting there
at five and five, and so you'd have to say
that this is a team that if they catch up
to the Bills, they're getting ahead of them. And if
it's between them the Bills and they've already got the
tie break, they've got the head to head, So I

(23:19):
just I look at what they're doing defensively. They got
rid of some older veteran pieces that are more expensive.
The young guys coming up, you know, stepping up playing well.
I'm not counting them out, man. They're a five hundred
football team with seven games left. I think they could
make a run. I think they could sneak into this
whole thing when it's all said.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
And done, well, they you know, when you start to
win games and they have won ugly, they haven't won
pretty ugly. Yeah, they've been ugly wins. But when you
start to get to that that place of where the
confidence begins to go to another place and you start

(23:57):
believing I and I think that that's firmly outside of schematics,
I think that's firmly what you have to have within
a team. Is that just that firm belief in one
another and the firm belief in the leadership. And Sean
Payton has been one of those guys that can capture
the imagination of his team and get them going in

(24:18):
the right direction and you know, get the get the
benefits of of those guys pulling and digging for more,
to to get more. And so when when you look
at where bron the Broncos are right now, they're second
in the in the West right now AFC West. They
have a backup quarterback Led Brown's team that they're they're

(24:41):
going to go up against next and yes, it's a
great defense that they're going to go up against, but
they still have to to contend with the fact that
they're not going to have a lot of k not
of offense. That's a very winnable game for the Broncos.
Then they have the Texans who are surging and are
like like we've said, and like said Q, this is

(25:01):
this is probably a guy that should be a top
recipient for MVP, but it's still Houston and they still
can be had and and regardless of how well they're playing,
you can still look at this as this is a
newly successful team. And so that's a game where a
Sean Payton can can scheme it up and they can

(25:22):
match up well against them. Lines will be a tough game.
They beat the Patriots, they can beat the Chargers, and
they can beat the Raiders. So the rest of the way,
you're talking about one or two games that really will
decide the fate of this team because the rest of
them are pretty much all in all winnable games. So

(25:43):
they're in like perfect pole position. If they're going to
try to hit that that that last lap where they
can you know, try to catch up from the side,
I'll flank them to the left or to the right
or whatever it may be, and and pull up in
enough of enough time to make the playoffs. So if
I were betting man, I would take the Broncos to

(26:05):
make it into the the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
I don't know what do you guys make of the
fact that and Brady alluded to it, but you had
higher price defensive players like Randy Gregory, like Frank Clark,
and it's almost like they got rid of them and
got better, Like what what.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
What happened there?

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Because this is I mean a complete opposite of what
this defense was with better, more established players on the roster.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
So so let me put it this way, all right,
the Giants and the Commanders this weekend, what was your
perception of how that game was going to go?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Before the game, Washington would just stamp them out right.

Speaker 4 (26:44):
I mean it was, what a nine point spread and
not a half point whatever?

Speaker 7 (26:46):
And then closing out that was that that was at
least what most people on the outside perceived, right, that
was kind of like their perspective on it. The truth
of the matter is, the margins of difference in players
is not as big as everyone the outside things. They're
just not And it's for that very reason. Like when
you see a guy who's getting paid X, you oh,

(27:06):
he's got to be a star. He's so much better
than the guy coming in behind him.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
Now he's really not.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
Now, maybe in some instances you could say that, but
in most cases, the margins of difference in players is
a lot closer than anyone realizes on the outside. Those
guys just have to either got their opportunity or they
don't play at consistently high enough level as compared to
the guy who start ahead of them.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
But the margins of differences aren't that that big. And
so yeah, we.

Speaker 7 (27:35):
Perceive in the outside of Oh Denver, getting rid of
these veteran piece as much be a fire cell building
for the future. And then you watch their defense play
better and you're like, huh, all right, maybe it's just
a matter of the fact that the guys they had
weren't playing up to whatever their contracts stated. And that's
for another conversation. But I always look at and just say,
any given Sunday, any.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Team can beat any team. And I think you get.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Caught in thinking that all the teams, there's so much
maybe outside of Carolina and how they've looked this year.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
But you get caught sometimes looking into that. It's saying
there's no way it's gonna be a blow.

Speaker 7 (28:11):
No, it's not like this weekend taught us that there's
a number of those games that didn't work out quite.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
The way we thought.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
I mean, listen, we have Alex Singleton, the Pride Thousand
Oaks High School.

Speaker 4 (28:21):
Yeah, he's a stud man, he is, He's a stud.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
He's Legend Lions on your show last night. I see yeah,
how you see? My my children are in the championship
round of the Lions. Legend Lions. Shouts out the Legend Lions.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
Legend.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Yeah, a lot of broken hearts in the playoffs. Can
you believe that my son's team was a two win
team and made it into the playoffs and now they're
playing for the CIF championship. CIF needs to do better.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Man, Then hold on, hold on a second, how's that
howd they make the playoffs for.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Two because of their strength to schedule they played, They
played Division like two, Division like one caliber teams because
nobody else would schedule them. The playoff seating out here
is so poorly it's weird. Like last year we should
have won, my year, my last year coaching, we should
have won, and that we should have won a championship.

(29:15):
But because we we outplayed, we outplayed what our division like,
our division standard would have been like, we would have
been like at three or four. They had us in
two because we went undefeated and we lost in the
first round to a legitimate Division two team. So this year,
so it's like based off of year. So if you

(29:36):
go into the season and you played like a week
strength of schedule, they'll they'll move you up, like they'll
punish you for taking that week's strength of schedule, so
they'll they'll move you up. If you're like a Division
ten team, they'll move you to like Division seven and
you'll get your ass beat. You know.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
Yeah, I mean, I guess the only thing that I
don't understand is like I guess they're the only a
state then that takes into account strength of schedule when
teams have losing records. It's not like because think about
college football. I don't care if a team goes two
and eight. They're not looking at doing well. They played
a really tough strength the top twenty five.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Well okay, and that's a whole lot of people, and
our calculations say they would have been five and six.
They've been somewhere. A whole lot of people in California
are are a clue to myself, are very upset about it.
I just thought that they'd be done two one team,
you know, go to the playoffs, you should be done
in the first round. But they have whooped everybody.

Speaker 7 (30:34):
For help, help your boy out. I'm giving an example
of a ten game schedule. John scot eleven, Help your.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Boy said, five and five? What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (30:42):
Five and six? I said, check the tape, Lee, let's
run that back. Let's run that back.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
He's already modifying the tape back there.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
This is disgusting, I said.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Five and five. Clearly, I don't know where, Like, where
do you guys learn to listen? You got five and five?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
What do you mean you guys?

Speaker 4 (31:00):
And what do you mean? What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (31:02):
You people? You people? What exactly do you mean by that, Jonas?

Speaker 1 (31:05):
I mean listen, you know I said at five and
five I know math because I graduated Speaking headquarters with
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(31:27):
going to talk about something that has been way overdue
in the NFL. Finally it has happened. We'll give you
the details on that.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
That's next.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
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Speaker 1 (31:46):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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You've wanted it to happen, and it looks like it
might finally be happening here. What is that involving one
NFL team? So we'll get into that for you in

(32:07):
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Speaker 3 (32:32):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Good thing.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
The guys are here to bring you in case you missed.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
It, and for that we turn it over to our
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Speaker 9 (32:48):
More than everybody, Morning Jonas, Morning Labar, Morning Brady, guys.
In case you missed it, A big announcement on a.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Morn of lvart guys.

Speaker 9 (33:05):
In case you missed the Fox NFL pregame show, you
would have missed a big announcement in the world for Dallas,
that being Jerry Jones finally telling face to face.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Jimmy Johnson will be.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
Inducted into the Cowboys Hall of Fame Ring of Honor
on December thirtieth, when the Cowboys.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Host the Lions. Yeah, about time.

Speaker 4 (33:21):
He did kind of love all the time coming right.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, it has been.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
And he did flubb it a little bit, Hey Brady,
he did flubb it a little bit by saying December thirtieth,
nineteen twenty three.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
But uh, that was quickly really corrected.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, nineteen that's how old. That's how you know someone's old.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Ah, jeez, how are you going to have to say
nineteen twenty three? They just screwed up. Do y'all know
what was going on? And I would not be sitting
here with you on nineteen twenty three, I'll tell you that.
By that wouldn't be whitby do radio with Joey Ass
And by the way, I don't think Lee would be either,
Will he'd be right there with me. What you want

(33:59):
to do, var what are we going to do? We're
going run, We're going run. By the way, I know
they have muskets in nineteen something like that, Frank Wright
calling plays in Carolina yesterday that I'm sure Jimmy Johnson

(34:22):
and Jerry Jones got to see and watch make much
of a difference for the Carolina Panthers or nah, still
still same problems. It didn't look good, Jesus man, it
looked about the same. They are awful, Michael Partons.

Speaker 7 (34:35):
They've got some y have seven sacks, They've.

Speaker 4 (34:39):
Got some big time outline issues. I mean, Dallas is
tough upfront, but my god, they need to help out
Bryce own with that line.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
As look good. Yeah. So it was that he was
blaming an energy drink. That's why he was, uh what happened. Michaeh.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Parsons was losing his lunch or runch if you will,
And I was blaming like an energy drink or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
That's gonna be good for marketing.

Speaker 9 (35:07):
Yeah yeah, I mean I can tell you the name
of the energy drink if you want to tell us
four four.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh no, Jonas loves that, yeah right, yeah, right, come on, man?

Speaker 9 (35:18):
And what was the details, League, I don't know much
other than that he did have to hurl twice and
then later blamed it on the sea four.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Interesting. You know, sometimes you could get too much energy
in your body, alb. You can sometimes you can get
energy over loow man, I've done that before. You feel lightheaded,
you know, sometimes you let it go? Yeah, no, it
is what it is plenty of times in workouts, right,
I mean, how many times have you earld it doing
a workout?

Speaker 4 (35:48):
You know?

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Get that pre workout in you have.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
To actually eat food to be able to throw up.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
Experienced. I work out fasted. But maybe he's a he's
a liquid vomitor, you know. Jeez, there you go, which
may be worse, which may really be worse. I've done
that before too. Yeah. I had a lot of LaVar
islands this past weekend?

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Man, did you?

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh? Did I?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Where were you at?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I wouldn't see my son play in Delaware? But I
was slinging turkeys on Thursday and Friday. So I was
in Philly on Thursday slinging some turkeys like Nino Brown,
you know, yeah, and slinging a turkey on slinging the
turkeys on on Friday and reading Pennsylvania and after and

(36:34):
you know all that. It was just LeVar islands all
the way around. Man, real turkey slinger, you know, straight
straight turkey slinger. Oh yeah, I sling the meat bruh, yeah, jeez?
What else we got fifteen hundred to be exact. Fellas.

Speaker 9 (36:54):
In case you missed it, Lakers beat the Rockets last
night one five to one four. But what happened during
the game was a lucky fan was given the opportunity
to take a half court shot for the chance to
win fifty five thousand dollars, but unfortunately, as he was
taking that shot, he uh he buckled and fell to
the ground.

Speaker 2 (37:11):
He hurt his leg. He was even given an opportunity
to take.

Speaker 9 (37:14):
A consolation prize shot from the three point line, but
said he was in so much pain he couldn't even
make that.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Oh, well, you know what that is. You know what
that is? He keep your fifty five grand. I'm gonna
get way more than that, exactly fifty five grand. Hi,
you're the Lakers. Huh, I'll show you three point shot? Okay?

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (37:35):
How does he did he jump in land?

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Wrong?

Speaker 2 (37:38):
Is that what happened?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (37:39):
Looking at the video, it's hard to tell exactly what happened.
He basically just looks like an old guy who's just
trying to chuck the ball down the court, and then
just it looks fake to me.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
It looked like he was selling it so much for
that promotion that one's out the door trying to do
something nice for y'all mothersuckers. This is the thanks we get.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Hey, Brady, when you do that doctor pepper throw, you
see anybody like kind of grab for their shoulder afterwards,
going like ah man.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
You know kind of no, because a lot of kids
do the push pass they do to chest pass.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Unacceptable.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
We actually had though, we actually had a I don't
know if I should say this or not. We had
a member, a cast member get hit by some one
of the band members from Maryland pushing a speaker this week,
like the might there might be like a workman's com
claim there.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
It's not a good situation.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
No, oh wow, yeah, sorry so sorry, sorry, Well them
band members bruh.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
By the way, Coelo is the man. He is the
best dude. He is the best dude. He's unbelievable man.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Them band members are stone cold though they well.

Speaker 7 (38:53):
In the band members defense, it was a gigantic speaker.
I don't think they could see what was in front
of them, which they probably needed more than one person
helping with that to look out.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
But it was a not a good situation.

Speaker 9 (39:07):
In case you missed, Washington beaten Oregon State this weekend.
You might have also missed an Oregon State fan uh
relieving himself in the middle of the stadium concourse, caught on,
got cotton cell phone cameras and went to General.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Jonas had to get that one ended.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
It was raining anyway, washed away.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
I can't rain go away. Control over it is
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