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The Jets quarterback situation took another strange turn in a
season of strange turns yesterday. Apparently Robert Sala was not
ready to name a starter following the awful performance on
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Sunday from both Tim Boyle and then Trevor Simeon. Zach
Wilson was demoted all the way to third string for
a second year in a row, and so the feeling
was that's the last we'll see of Zack Wilson. Well,
according to the Athletic, this report came out yesterday that
Zack Wilson was hesitant to return if they asked him
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to because of injury risk and Aaron Rodgers, I guess.
According to Diana Rassini spoke with Zach Wilson but encouraged
him to go ahead and want to play, and urged
him to try and campaign to get his old job back.
So apparently he went in and talked with Robert Sala,
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And here was Robert Sala discussing the initial report that
Zack Wilson didn't want to play and how that's nonsense
and what their status is at QB.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Let's be clear, if he was reluctant to play, guys,
he wouldn't be here, all right. I actually coincidentally just
got done speaking with him. He came in about a
half hour ago, and we had a really good conversation.
And the young man wants the ball, he wants to start,
and he believes he's the best quarterback in the room
and best quarterback for this team, and the best and
the guy who gives us the best fans to win.
And I'll tell you, guys, the same thing I told him.
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I appreciated, I appreciate the fact that he wants to play.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
I'm just not there yet.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
The hell's going on and he's just not there yet.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
What is that even? Like? What type of relationship is
this can't.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Can I take a victory lap on this one for
the entirety of what's happened in the last two years
in all seriousness, Like did I not say this earlier
when they benched him? Like this was the dumbest thing
to do in the first place. The offense wasn't going
to get better with Tim Boyle or Trevor Simeon without
Rogers in the picture. He was and is the best
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option for them. He actually had improved this year, played
better football. Yet they wanted to blame him, and so
they bench him and jerk him around.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
Now they're trying to bring him back in.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
If he didn't want to come back into this circus
that Robert Salah or whoever else is making decision there
has created. I think we'd all be understanding of that,
because he knows his future is probably not the New
York Jets. It's gonna be Rogers coming back next year
in twenty twenty four. He will most likely move on
to be somewhere else. And as I said earlier this
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year and even before the season, they should have moved on.
It would have been better for Zach Wilson. It would
have been better for the New York Jets. We don't
have to do this whole dancing around whatever Robert Sala
wants to get up on the mic and say, that's
just the truth of the matter. It would have been
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better for all parties involved. Have they just moved on
before the season and gone their separate ways. There was
no future for this scenario. And the way they've handled
him this year has been even worse because you have
seen improvement from him. Anyone who's watched all of his
ta and watched all of his games. He's played better
football this year, and it hasn't come with the wins
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because you know this team still has some holes in it.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
The offensive line.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Needs to improve. You know their defense has played well
for the majority of the season. There's still still been
some times when they gave up some stuff. Their running
game has not been as consistent as it was last
year during their win streak. So this is all in
an effort to try to win a couple of games
to at least still get to that December twenty fourth
day where they'd be in playoff contention and Aaron Rodgers
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could come back. You got Houston this week and at
Miami the next you win those two games, you're still
in it. At six to eight. Now they're probably gonna
have to win out. But then those next three I
think about the last three games. Washington, who's just fallen
off by the wayside, who knows if Ron Rivera is
still their head coach.
Speaker 5 (05:53):
By them, Cleveland, who's.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Had now what four quarterbacks play this season, it's going
to be at least a backup, and their defense isn't
playing as well, they're not running the ball as well.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
And then you have New.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
England, which that's been just disastrous, all right. So that's
what the Jets are trying to get to, That's what
this is all about. They're trying to stay in the
playoff hunt. So there's a chance for Aaron Rodgers to
maybe come back for that twelve to twenty four game
versus Washington at home Christmas Eve, and I'm sure Zach
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Wilson will end up starting and doing as best he
can to beat a Houston team that's right now out
of the playoffs but still very much in the hunt.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
But the reality is how they've jerked him around this season.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Has not only probably hurt his growth as a quarterback,
but everything else for him long terms, the future it's
been all about.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
I'm not sure if it's perception.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
For the lack of decision making that's gone on in
the front office or how you want to describe it,
but it's just ridiculous that we even had to go
through this in the first place.
Speaker 5 (07:00):
He never should have been benched in the first place.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
If they really believed in Zach Wilson, they would have
kept him in there, allowed him to go through the lumps,
built through that adversity, become a better player on the
other side of it, instead of jerking around like this.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
It's it really is ridiculous.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
It doesn't It doesn't bode well for having sympathies or
patience for Robert Salah. It almost it almost paints a
picture of him being an arrogant d bag, if I'm
being honest.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Like dysfunctional as well too.
Speaker 7 (07:36):
I mean it's like, I'm not there yet? What what
what the blip does that even? What does that even mean?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
Bro? What what are you like?
Speaker 7 (07:46):
You're talking about a grown ass man that that has
earned his way and earned his right to have an
opportunity at at being a successful player in the National
Football League. So if you don't feel as though you're
ready yet. I mean, at this point, is it more
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about you or is it more about your players? And
I think that that now, looking at the way he's
handled things with Zach Wilson, I wouldn't be shocked or
surprised because at times we have seen this entire team
play at a different level that the way this New
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York defense is playing now is not the way they
played early on in the season.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
It could be the same type of symptomatic.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
Results of a coach that is not relatable to their players.
If you think that the other guys aren't paying attention
to the way Zach is being treated, whether they like
him from what he said last year and taking accountability
or not, it doesn't matter if I like him as
a person. What matters is I'm looking at how they're
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treating him the treatment of my teammate, because it would
still be my teammate. You are creating cracks and you
are creating dissension amongst your team by the way you're
handling this situation. I could probably guarantee that and not
even be close to the situation that's taking place there.
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So he is totally mishandled. Speaking of Robert Sala the
head coach. He has totally mishandled the situation in a
way where if things continue to go the way that
they're going, this is not more about Zach Wilson. This
is more about Robert Salah in the leadership of this team.
Speaker 6 (09:42):
They've embarrassed and clowned him two years in a row,
like they've demoted him all the way to third string.
They've made it. It's been a big public spectacle. Now
you've got this back and forth going on. I just
I look at it and I go, this is why?
And I do wonder this as well too. Is this
just to Robert Sala's move, or it is Joe Douglas involved,
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Like what is the conversation like there? Does he just
have full autonomy to do this whatever he feels right, like, Hey,
we're just gonna demote him and then we'll bring it
back like we did last year, and then we're going to.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Demote him again and then maybe we'll bring him back
this year.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Or does Joe Douglas have any sort of say in this,
Like That's what I wonder because this is it does
come off as really dysfunctional and and to Levar's point,
I would imagine there's probably people that are looking around going, damn,
it's like that huh, Like they're doing that to him again,
and now he might come and I wonder if there's
people in that locker room where like, you know what, Zach,
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I don't blame you, don't come back like self preservation.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
I mean, if this is it.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
Could be next.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
Yeah, Like that's what a player starts to think, because
that's the type of environment that pro football is. If
they could treat this guy. Think about if they're treating
their top draft pick quarterback, good looking dude. Right, Oh,
they're treating it to do the way they're treating him,
which is the biggest Where do I fall into order
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all of this?
Speaker 5 (11:05):
That's right?
Speaker 1 (11:06):
I mean, if he was an ugly ass dude, I feel.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Ugly as lotion hand using. Boy, Get up, there's another team.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
There's there's another team out there that is, uh, ironically
four and eight right now and ironically has played three
quarterbacks this season. It also happens to be in New York.
Does it feel dysfunctional with the New York Giants?
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Baby, But it's not even that it's Tommy.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
It's every step of the way it's felt like, all right,
this is the situation, this is how we're dealing with it,
and they've moved forward. It's like you couldn't have a
starker contrast. Even in the Giants and the Jets, yes
who play they share the same stadium, Like you couldn't
have a starker contrast with how they they've handled adversity,
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where the front office for the Giants, Brian Dable for
the Giants have continually kind of stayed the course. And
yet you get the Jets at four and eight, who
are just jerking this young man around and so I
think that's got to be a hit to Woody Johnson,
their owner. And as you look at Robert Sala and
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you're trying to make a decision on like is this
the guy to lead this team in the future. He
was four to thirteen in their first season. Last year,
they had a great start that absolutely fell off to
the wayside and ended up seven to ten and.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
Finished last in the AFC East. Now, look, this year,
they're not going to be last in the AFC East.
There's only only one team that's got that lockdown.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
But they're gonna be third and at this rate, if
they don't win each of the next two games. They're
going to be, you know, sitting at home during the playoffs,
and you're most likely going to see Robert Sala again
hurt that win loss record. He's fifteen to thirty one
as a head coach for the New York Jets, and
so I would say, it's like, push all your chips
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onto the table for twenty twenty four and that's his
job security and everything else. And I almost worried, like
what happens this offseason because if I'm Onnie Johnson, I'm
really being harsh and evaluating how he's handled Zach Wilson,
in particular with the way he's kind of been jerked
in and out everything else, it would make me question
his decision making out a whole lot of other things too.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
It like this season shows me and tells me that
Aaron Rodgers is the real leader and coach on that.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Team, not Robert Sala.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Because the fact that Zach Wilson had to be like
talked into, like he went over to the other parent,
you know, the cool parent, was like, this is the
one who gives me the best advice and said, hey,
what do you think I should do? All right, go
talk to mom and just go go say this that
you'll go ahead, like he didn't go to Robert Sala
willingly if the report from Diana Rassini is true, like
he was basically talked into it by Aaron Rodgers, which
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I wonder how many other players on that team are
like man like, we'll listen to Aaron, Like when Aaron's
on the sideline, it's a different vibe. When Aaron's around,
it's a different vibe. I do wonder if Robert Sala
has burned some of those bridges there, like.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
It's kind of wild that we're here and he's.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
Aaron Rodgers needs to be careful about the way in
the way that you're explaining it, because when that ship
starts to go down, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I don't
want my reputation being connected to that.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
He's like, you got one foot dangling.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Aaron's well, he literally got one foot down round. Aaron
was the reason why Aaron Aaron, Aaron, Aaron, Aaron Aaron.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
And then Aaron gets back, Like, okay, Aaron gets back,
what are you hoping the results to be that he
sets the world on fire.
Speaker 5 (14:41):
Aaron Rodgers is a just a man he's just a man.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
Like, we're creating this narrative that when Aaron Rodgers gets back,
whether it's for one game, that he's going to set
the world on fire.
Speaker 5 (14:56):
It's a setup. Do you think if I'm Aaron.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
Rodgers, I'm not going for that, chief he's It's a setup.
That's not an ultimate end. That's that's your climactical ending
of the situation that Aaron Rodgers plays a game for
the New York Jets. That is a sad commentary if
that's what you're looking for in terms of what your
season is supposed to be as entirety as a whole
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in the National Football League.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
When you because you were talking about what I thought
was important that Zach Wilson being a good looking dude,
Like do you think like he's better looking than Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, I mean again, but here's Rogers.
Speaker 7 (15:35):
Here's the thing though, here's the thing, Jonas, here's the
thing You got to understand though, and and Q doesn't
have to be in this conversation because he's a good
looking dude. So good looking dudes get uncomfortable about good
looking dude conversations, right, But the bottom line is Aaron
Rodgers is a good looking dude. He's a good looking dude.
I think it's just what your preference is in terms
of what you think is good looking. Like Aaron Rodgers
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is more dark Knight good looking.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Wow wow.
Speaker 7 (16:02):
Zach Wilson is more boy Wonder good looking. And it
just depends on do you want the main superhero or
do you want the sidekicked superhero.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
I think that that's what it comes down.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Do you want Thor or Batman?
Speaker 7 (16:14):
No, No, that's not true. That's not that I just
gave you the proper No, he's more Robin. Zach Wilson
is more of a Robin boy Wonder is Robin? Just
so you didn't know, And that's Batman and Robin. So
do you want Batman or do you want Robin? Like
if they were to do a movie and they cast
it that movie, those two would be the perfect two
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for those roles and those characters.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Great call.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
There you go, you got out of control? What do
you mean? Boss?
Speaker 7 (16:45):
Concludes our breakdown of why things are going down the
way that they are.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
We're the New York Jets. I can't believe we're gonna
attribute that to that.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Robert Salah is waiting for Batman. He don't need no
time with boy Wonder and.
Speaker 6 (17:02):
By the way, it should yet just so you know,
people like we're being fair here. LeVar did also mention
Robert Sola's skin earlier.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
In the year.
Speaker 7 (17:11):
He's got great skin. He takes care of his skin,
man and any any manicures his face and all that stuff,
like with his facial hair and stuff. Like he knows
that that camera stays on him because it ain't damn
sure staying on his team. Like, he knows that the
camera is going to be in his face and he
rocks it. Now, you don't he don't play around with
the way he looks now, don't don't go to twist this.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Basically, if the NFL was about looks, the Jets would
be above five hundred.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It's not. They win it, therefore their uh so it
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Speaker 5 (17:49):
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Speaker 4 (17:54):
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Speaker 5 (17:57):
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Speaker 4 (17:58):
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Speaker 5 (19:15):
I don't want to get to know you better this Christmas?
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Oh come on now?
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Yeah, isn't this the Temptations?
Speaker 4 (19:29):
I don't know, you know, it sounds like if I
had to guess, I'm gonna say, Donnie.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Hathaway, that's a good one. That's a good pool.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
Is that? Did I get that right?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
That's a great pool.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Wow, it's unbelievable, is that Donnie Hathaway? Yeah, I'm getting
confirmation it is.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Yeah, that's a good one, good pool. I mean, okay,
Jonas Yea.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
Some people know their music and some people don't. Now
whether or not Mark may have said that in my ear,
who knows? Not here to disclose that information on the show.
You know, it's not anybody his business. It is two
pros and a cup of Joe Here on Fox Sports Radio.
By the way, Lee to Lap, we do have an
update on a story we discussed last week. Uh, he
just found a drink ticket from the holiday party in
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his pocket of his genet.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
If anybody's want.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
To wonder if he could still go use it may still.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
If anybody's wondering whether or not Lee did his laundry
since then, Nope, Wall and.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
He could have done it laundry. It just might have
stayed intact. You know, what was it? T? G? What
would you get G and T? And so they're going
to the same place. I mean you could switch them around.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
The new world.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
Not that it's new drink, but the new hip drink
in town is the NEGRONI which I've been or.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
What I'm stepping out?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
The hell? Did you just say? What? Did you? What
you say?
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Lee?
Speaker 5 (21:04):
Tell me? Get you? Come on? Get this.
Speaker 10 (21:05):
It's another gin drink with removeingari say it?
Speaker 5 (21:09):
What is it?
Speaker 7 (21:14):
But drop kick you right your mouth man, you're your
animal dog, fire over their pal, the people you're offending,
the Italians you've allowed your drinking to to well. I
will say this though, Lee, Lee is not one of
one of those types.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
You know you're not hold on now? Is that? Is
that the stancer taking on this?
Speaker 7 (21:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna let leave. I'm gonna let Lee live
on this one because I know that's missed up. I
know it's private life, Lee Roy. But then again, but
then again that could just I ain't gonna go down
that hole, all right, Yeah, and I'm.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Gonna lead what's in the h what's in the name
of that Drinkly?
Speaker 10 (22:00):
NEGRONI it's equal parts to equal parts gin vermuth and can.
Speaker 5 (22:07):
PARTI vermth.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Something I will never order.
Speaker 7 (22:11):
Yeah, I said drought yesterday. I still am like freaking
mortifat that. I oh god, I thought it was drought drat. Yeah,
that was actually throught about that. So you just brought
that up. No, I didn't forget about it. It mortifat me.
(22:31):
I ain't gonna lie kind of like it. And so
you've been around in a circle for a little while,
like you should freaking.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Crout, and so you've been E've been ordering that at bars.
Speaker 5 (22:43):
No I don't.
Speaker 7 (22:44):
I don't order that. I ordered all that. I ordered Stout.
That's that's the one I'm I want. I hope it's
called Stout. It might it might be called Staff.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
No, you know it.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
Is staff.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
I don't know what. I don't know anymore. You know
you're questioning everything now.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
No, I mean I was for a moment, It's like
I had Like I was in the gym yesterday, I
was like, you should rout, like put.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
The weight down, like it was driving. I'm looking at
my dar picked my daughter up from school.
Speaker 7 (23:18):
I was like, I looked out the window, saw a
bird flying around saw butterflies like you shit freaking rout
on on air, like all right, you know whatever.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Said worse whatever, I don't worry about, but.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
I've been thinking it. That's the word forever.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
Like I always thought that Guinness there was two guinnesses,
stout and drought.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
That's what I thought, drought and stout. So there you go.
Let's stay rhyme better. Yeah it did it wouldn't. I
mean it was and people let me do it.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah, and everybody out there that's listening that that was
around when I had both of them available and you
were in the house and you let me do it,
you know.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Screw you. Yeah, nobody corrected me.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
So do you feel like there's a lot of people
in your life like that? Then when you have like
a booger, I don't want to tell you when you
have a booger, and.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
I'm the guy I'll tell you like, ah, you got
some nastiness on your mouth, man, like get that off,
or oh you got to crumb in your nose, like
get that my guy. You know, I'm that type of
guy that'll do the uncomfortable talk, like, bro, you got
like this crazy looking like piece of like salava or
something on your face, man, like wipe that off, man,
like like you got the snot running, like I'm the
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guy that will not like I'll look out for you,
and clearly no one's looking out for LeVar man. You
know we do, though I'm a victim.
Speaker 4 (24:47):
Man, we look out for you.
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Yeah, I mean, y'all did correct me yesterday. But you
were you were smirking while you were looking at me
like you you were smirking. You you were borderline laughing
at me. And you know what, I don't feel good
about that at all.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
That's not true because I even made you feel better.
Speaker 6 (25:03):
I said, listen, you know alcohol does that because like
you did Miller Lite, why do they spell light l
I te you.
Speaker 5 (25:10):
Know you did do that. Yeah you did, and I
appreciated that.
Speaker 7 (25:14):
But that's I do that to losers, you know what
I mean, Like when when I'm talking to a loser,
I'll say that, you know, I'll be like, oh man,
it's okay.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
You know, you know this happens and da da da
this and that. So I felt like a loser. No,
you know, it's all right. In that moment, I was,
and it's okay. You know.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Part of part of getting better is is realizing and
recognizing what you were in that moment and I was,
and you know, I'll move on from it. I'll be better,
you know, I'll be better next now. I'll be the
better for it. If we ever have another getness conversation
or we end up going to Ireland, you know, and
I make the trip, you know, I'll be I'll be
in the right.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
By the way, it is Florida State, Georgia Tech next year.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
Correct, that's right, Well we're not going because clearly that
wouldn't be an interesting enough game.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
Well, Florida State's in it. I mean too soon soon?
Too soon? Is uh?
Speaker 4 (26:12):
And Jordan Travis is coming back? Right or no?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
No?
Speaker 6 (26:16):
I think he said yeah, he already announced on social media.
That's it for him.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
See what happened in your brain there? What you thought like, Yeah,
Jordan Travisady is coming back.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Yeah, I forgot.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
There's because there's so many stories that are coming out
left and right that I just kind of lose track
at times of everybody's commitment, decommitment, who's coming back, who's
not coming But you.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Were pretty close to being pretty certain that he was
coming back.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, but then I remember, yeah, he dropped on a
dime and went back the other one.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Yeah, So that's that's what we should focus on, is
really how we ended it and not how it's like.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
That's why I like to live life.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
By the way, the Heisman finalists have been released, and
we do have ourselves Jaden Daniels, Bow Nicks, Michael Pennox Junior,
and Marvin Harrison Junior who are the finalist. We've Jayden Daniels,
who's the betting favorite according to DraftKings, followed by Bo Nicks,
Michael Pennix junior, and then Marvin Harrison Junior. I think
(27:09):
I said Jalen Milroe was high atop the list. You
surprised he didn't get the nod over Marvin Harrison Junior.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now, look, I think Marvin Harrison Junior is getting the
nod because he is the best player in college football.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
The hard thing is is he's a wide receiver, and
it's hard for wide receivers to win this award unless
you have Devontae Smith, who in that year had such
a ridiculous statistical year as a wide receiver and their
team's success that those two things combined made it really
difficult to vote for anyone else, And on top of that,
it wasn't necessarily a great year for other positions around him.
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So you have to have almost the stars in line
for a position outside of the quarterback to win it
in today's game of football. Because of how the game
of football's played, I mean, the quarterback position has only
become that much more important as the game has become
more spread out, and as we've added an additional wide
receiver in most you know, most sets or three wide
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receiver sets, so it allows the quarterback to put up
more stats, allows the quarterback to run more, and just
overall kind of dominate. And that's what you've seen from
the three other guys, you know, where Jade Daniels has
put together the statistical year that I think you'd you'd
look at and say, wow, that's by far and away
better than everyone else. Bo Knicks was on the cusp
of getting his team a Pack twelve championship and getting
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to the College Football Playoff and also a very very
solid statistical year, but that fell short to Pennix, who
you know, his stats aren't quite as good as bow
Knicks when you combine everything for him, but they're you know,
right there and he obviously beat bow Knicks head to
head twice this year, and even though I know they're
not playing each other, but still he kind of gets
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credit for it as it looked like that and his
team is playing for a national championship.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
So all four guys extremely deserving.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
There's other guys who you probably could have thrown in
the conversation, like Jalen Milroe, and I'm sure people voted
for it to be in different spots. I mean, you know,
Eli Drinkwitz was was something about Cody Schrader running back
from Mazoo if had a phenomenal year. He's been a
big part of it. So a lot of guys who
could be in the consideration, But at the end of
the day, it's uh, yeah, yeah, maybe maybe Carson Beck.
(29:24):
I mean, statistically he doesn't really come as close. I
think had they won the SEC championship or made undefeated,
you could have thrown him in there.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
And that's probably what people were waiting on.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
But that's why you probably will get more people looking
at mill Row and saying, oh, maybe he should you know,
be in there instead, you know, give him a shot
given the chance that they won the SEC and he's
gonna a shot at a national title.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
It must be sweet to be a Heisman finalist, must
be cool, man, Like, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Don't know, it's cool. It's cool to win awards, it's
not cool to go to them. And man, I'm with
you on this one, Jonas.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Yeah, if you get invited, like you are part of
a percentage of people that it's just rare.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:06):
Man, I think it's pretty cool because you work for results.
You know, it's all about the results, and sometimes you
don't win the award, but to know that you were
that good, like that's how good you were, Like, you
can't take that away at all, you know. I know
they say they don't remember the loser, but you know,
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the older I get, you know what, I realize they
don't remember the winner either, right, but they don't remember
the winner either.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
You know what's funny is he was there.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
They used to invite a lot more guys, And I
thought that was a cool deal because I think Orlando
paced the year he finished and correct me if I'm wrong, Guys,
I think he finished eighth, which.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
That's unheard of.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
I mean, forget about a position of the quarterback, running back,
wide receiver, like defensive player, it's hard to There's been
guys who've been close, right, Mantai Tao was close, and
Hudgson was close. You know, LaVar you were in there
like my brother in law AJ Hockey. He was like
sixth I think one of those years. But an offensive
lineman like bro an offensive lineman and listen.
Speaker 7 (31:13):
Like that little bit honored like that wasn't like oh
the like Orlando Pace legitly should have been there, likely
probably the best player in that draft, dude.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
So when he came on with you for the Ohio
State Penn State game and we were I was just
kind of doing some research behind that.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
I was like, wait a second, he.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Got eighth like there were I mean, think about how
many people have to vote for him to be considered
the top player in college football.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
That's how dominant he was as a tackle.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, And I always go back to saying, like people
are like, well, who's the greatest bucket of Buckeye of
all time?
Speaker 5 (31:48):
They always go back to Archie Griffin. I'm like, I
don't know, dude.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
I was like, I think I'd say Orlando Pace when
you take into account how ridiculous it is, and I
understand no one's ever done that before to winning the
Heisman twice. Yeah, but also like how many other alignment
have been in consideration for it, and if it's dominant
of a year like a learned and pace.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
That goes back to my original point.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
If you're in the consideration, if you're in the conversation,
that's always been my thing. I just want to be
in the conversation. You don't have to say I was
the greatest anything. Just have me in the conversation if
I could be, if I could just do well enough
where I'm in the conversation, that that to me, you're
you've done something well, you know, because most people don't.
(32:32):
Most people you know, you can try it, you can
think about it, but to do it is a whole
another deal man, and that's a kick in the head,
you know.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
So you should be proud of that, que you know
what I mean. Sure, you should be proud of that man.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
By the way, Lee has now taken on Jonas's passive aggressiveness,
which he does not talk in our ears anymore.
Speaker 5 (32:51):
He just texts us that we need to get the trending.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yes, yes I did.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Thanks Lee, You're very welcome.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
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Speaker 2 (34:06):
Would you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
I lead?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
What do we got?
Speaker 5 (34:12):
All right?
Speaker 10 (34:13):
Guys, we were talking a little bit about superheroes and sidekicks.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Made me think of this one.
Speaker 10 (34:18):
Guys, who would you rather have as your sidekick? Would
it be Robin Chewbacca or Sam Wise Gange from Lord.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Of the Rings? Who I don't even know who that is? Well,
Chewbacca or Robin?
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I mean Chewbacca.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Robin's kind of I don't know, you think he's soft.
There's only two sidekicks there are.
Speaker 10 (34:40):
Oh, there's plenty of Well, when you look at super
I was looking up superhero sidekicks, they're they're pretty weak.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
I mean you got Harley quinnho's kind of.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
A bad.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Yeah, Harley Quinn. Who's Harley Quinn? That's the Joker sidekick.
I'll go Margo Robbie. Oh yeah, that'll work.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Yeah, yep, yeah, I never want to change my You know, why.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
Didn't you just say that Lee? Well, that those are
super villains. He's more of a super villain kick that
changes everything.
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Now did you say side chick or sidekick? I mean difference, damn.
And that's an area that's one of the different what else?
Speaker 10 (35:22):
Well, as far as billionaires who don't have real superpowers,
would you guys rather be iron Man or Batman?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
I be iron Man, iron Man Batman? Yeah, iron Man
would wipe the floor with Batman.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, like fashion you know, kind of fixed my man.
Speaker 5 (35:40):
It's pretty fashionable.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Man.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
What are you talking about? Black? That's your deal. That's
that's the That was the deciding factor is that he
wears black. We get it. And he's a bat and
we know you're a vampire.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah, that man really was a vampire. I never thought
of that.
Speaker 5 (35:57):
That would be a dope twist.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
Well, isn't that how he got the title Batman? He
was bitten by a bat?
Speaker 5 (36:03):
No, that wasn't no spider Man.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
I guess clearly. I haven't seen that episode.
Speaker 5 (36:08):
Yea episode of what?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
I don't know that, guys.
Speaker 10 (36:17):
A little preview ahead to Thursday night football, We've got
the Steelers versus the Patriots.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
Question for you guys, would you rather just copy and
face that in two days?
Speaker 10 (36:33):
Would you guys have rather played for Bill Belichick or
Mike Tomlin in your career? Bill Belichick, No, no guarantee
as to what your career is going to be Belichick.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
No, no, no tom Brady or with Tom Brady.
Speaker 10 (36:47):
Yeah, it's not like you're subbing yourself for Tom Brady
or I'm.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Saying, is it doing tom Brady or no?
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Well, I mean I think everyone would want to experience
that success. Yeah, I'm with Belichick. Yeah, if it's the
Tom Brady here, I'm not taking any of it. I
think it'd be a lot more fun to play for
a team coach by Mike Tomlin. Like I would actually
probably enjoy his team meetings more, seems like from like
the things he says and hearing him speak the guys
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who played from too. So I think it'd be more
enjoyable to be with Mike Tomlin. But I would think
you'd rather be a part of seven or six super.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
Bowls, And I would go Belichick because he's more focused
on super Bowls and Tomlin's more focused on finishing above
five hundred.
Speaker 4 (37:29):
So I just feel like priorities are a little different there.
Speaker 7 (37:32):
I think that's an unfair statement, you know. I mean,
he's won a super Bowl, he's been on trying to win.
Speaker 5 (37:40):
What are you talking about? Just so much so that
he's over five hundred every year that he's trying to
win Super.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Bowls feels like that's the goal there now just a.
Speaker 5 (37:49):
Tad bit unfair. I think that that you made that up.
I think you made that up, Jonas, Yeah, hundred percent.
Tang What else you got, Guys?
Speaker 10 (38:01):
I have a friend of mine who just took off
to Asia for a few weeks.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (38:07):
Leads me to this question, would you rather be backpacking
through Europe or Asia?
Speaker 5 (38:10):
Europe? Yeah, let's say Europe.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
No offense, just go Europe.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
Why would that be a fence? And I don't know
if you just pick Europe over Asia?
Speaker 6 (38:21):
What is You've been to Europe? I have any any
tips on backpacking through Europe? You've been all throughout Europe.
Speaker 10 (38:29):
I have not done the backpacking stuff. I have stayed
at a hostel or two.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
No big tips. I'm not a huge tip guy on
the stay at a hostel Like, yeah, it's uh, it's fine.
Speaker 10 (38:42):
I guess I've heard better stories than the ones I've had.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
He slept outside of train stay.
Speaker 10 (38:47):
Yeah, I obviously don't have the best track record will travel.
Speaker 5 (38:54):
So nothing crazy went on? Uh?
Speaker 4 (38:56):
No, none that I could say here today?
Speaker 5 (38:58):
No, you can figure it out. Okay,