April 11, 2024 • 40 mins
Brian Noe and Geoff Schwartz – in for Brady, Lavar and Jonas – react to the news that the feds have cleared Shohei Ohtani from any knowledge or involvement with his former interpreter's gambling, Caitlin Clark's effect on women's basketball, and more!
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Jeff Schwartz, Good to be with you. We've got show. Hey,
Otani apparently cleared by the FEDS. Hi, it's his dirt
bag ex interpreter who turns out stall about four point
five million dollars to cover gambling debts. I didn't really
(01:16):
buy the story to begin with. But the FEDS are
saying Otani's in the clear. What do you make of this, Jeff, I.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Still don't believe this at all. We dabble heavily in
the wagering community. Well, good morning to you go when
everyone else this has smelt fishy the entire time, Brian,
as someone who you know, we've been lucky enough to
work with Bill Krackenberg right now for three years almost
long on the year three right, and we've learned a
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lot from Bill as a professional gambler. And now, oh
show he Otani's interpreter used in offshore, not an off
short an illegal bookie, I should say. So it wasn't
like someone in Las Vegas had a sports book. But
getting down the amount of money alleged to have been wagered,
a guy making like two hundred and fifty grand ish
can't do that, Brian, There's no way. So what was
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the collateral for the wagers? It had to be something
related to show hel Tony. Now maybe he very easily said, hey, man,
show he's my guy and he'll back me if I
get into too much trouble, and he show his collateral
and show had no idea. But the fact is I
guess the transferring of money. I understand that the athletes,
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and I'm one of them, I wasn't in this category
to have as much money. Often had people that manage
their money that aren't great with it. And you have
so much money and show hell Tony does that, you
might not notice four million dollars missing. That's kind of
wild to say, but it's certainly true. If you having
a big investment account, or you know a big account
where you've someone who has access to it and they
just go in there and take the money out, you
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might not notice if you have so much money, maybe
that's the way it worked. But to get to that
level where you owe four and a half million dollars, man,
I don't know. I don't believe it, Brian, I just don't. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's a hard one to believe. Where it's one of
two things. Either what the Feds are saying is what
happened where Otani was in the dark, didn't know about this,
didn't see the money being withdrawn. This dirt bag interpreter
he found a way so that there were no bank
alerts that all this money as being withdrawn from Otani's
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account or or like this is the biggest fall guy
of all time, at least in terms of gambling. That's
right where Otani did know, and this X interpreter is
just taking the fall for everything, and he's about to
plead guilty to federal charges. And it's one of two things.
That's what we're looking at here at this whole situation.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Look, it's really possible that that he did this against
not against the will, but but O'tani did not know.
I guess thing too, is that we both have friends
that gamble. And there are people that I know that gamble,
I believe or not more than I do. They're very
loud about it. Yeah, he never said to show. Hey,
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like I got a million dollars on the soccer game.
Soccer matches would say, he just kept it to himself
this entire time. Yeah, you know those seeing those sort
of things. I find hard to believe a person who
gambled millions I supposely millions of dollars never told showing
he was gambling at all.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, I know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Like like they're watching a soccer match. You know these people, man,
we were with them all the time. We have friends
that gamble. You can't show up about it, Yeah, I know, yeah,
and he just didn't and he's like never said a
word about it to anybody. It's very hard to be
best friend who's with every day.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, how could you keep that a secret? I mean really,
if you had that much money writing on it, if
you were getting that much more in the hole, right,
you just gambling and losing and the debt is piling
up and you're stealing. And I didn't breathe a word
of this to anyone. That is It's very hard to believe.
(05:16):
But that's what the Feds are saying. And hey, maybe
Otani if he was involved in gambling and he's got
his eyes dotted and tea's crossed and you can't prove it,
and that's the outcome that we get.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know, it's a crazy story, man, it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's best for baseball that this disappears too. I'm not
saying that Baseball probably like, hey, Feds, can you know?
Can you not? But you know, it is best that
it's not a topic anymore, right, I mean I imagine
they wanted to go away as soon as possible. Part
of it is that they Baseball has been so hard
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on Pete Rose, right, Yeah, and has made it their
mission to never let him back into baseball essentially. And
you know, we get debate obviously whether wagering on soccer
matches and wagering on your team they're not the same thing, right,
But the fact is they've been so hardcore on keeping
Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame and keeping
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him away from baseball and gam boo gambling, bad gambling.
And I agree you shouldn't wager on your own team,
really wager on your own sport as an athlete is
it's not good. It's just simple to put it right, like,
it's just not you shouldn't do that. It does question
the integrity of the game, which you never really want.
And again I the idea Brian of like games are
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hard enough anyways, especially in football, and wager on yourself
and your team to win, like losing that game and
then losing money because you lost, it's it's even worse feeling.
At least you're you know, when that check clear is
on Tuesday of after a loss, trug at least they
got paid for this game. Imagine thinking that I owe
my bookie money because we lost. So I I agree
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with all those rules, but baseball have been so hard
on Pete Rose that if it was any evidence in
all the show Halo Tom was part of this, you
have to suspend them immediately for like a year, right,
you have to. You have to to give him a
huge punishment. And that's not good for baseball right now.
Baseball is a bunch of problems with their product. In
my opinion. Their pitchers are hurt, it's not their Baseball's fault,
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per se. And the uniforms are awful, and they're getting
mocked every single day. I mean, Ryan, the Giants, I'm
a Giants fan. They're supposed to have their City Connect uniforms.
Yesterday just haven't arrived yet. Oh wow, yesterday a guy
slid in his pants, split completely open. You saw that.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
They just disintegrated.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, how can baseball, a professional sports league, have a
situation where their uniforms are in such bad shape? You
mentioned the football never happened basketball. I mean, like these
guys having subparty when you remember basketball, try trying to
change the ball and like a weekend they're like, I say,
it worked, and they just went back to the regular ball.
Go back to your uniforms from last year. Like it's
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just baseball's all these problems with people paying attention regionally.
It's very still very you know, very high high TV
ratings with nationally, and you can't have your best player suspended,
you know, for gambling. So and then again, I don't
think the fed's heard from baseball and decided, oh, let's
not investigat and let's let's clear show. Hey, but this
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is the best result for baseball.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Oh, it's huge for baseball.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right, We've got the Masters beginning today and we might
see a few Tiger Woods fist pumps. Hopefully, if we're lucky,
we will that Major League Baseball was doing a Tiger
Woods fist pump with the news coming out, because think
about all the stuff that you've seen, all the memes,
all the pictures, like I love it when Otani is
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on deck and like Mookie bets, his name is on
the scoreboard and then it's like Otani bets, you know,
and all that stuff. So this isn't an MLB investigation
clearing Otani. These are the Feds clearing Otani. So this
is tremendous for baseball. They don't have any sticky decisions.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
To make or they're not this right.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They're in this tough situation where with Pete Rose as
the backdrop and you've banned him for life.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Now all of a sudden, Otani is betting on baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
What do you do even if it's just a Calvin
Ridley type thing in the NFL and he's gone for
an entire season, which he would have to be at
the minimum, they would look like the biggest hypocrites. Once
he's cleared and back in baseball, which he clearly would be,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Have to go down that road at all. That is
amazing for baseball.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's fantastic. And yeah, look you've been so hard on
Pete Rose and we canna have that discussion. I think
he should be in the Hall of Fame. I mean,
I also think Perry Bond should be in the Hall
of Fame. The Hall of Fame is a museum right
of history of your sport in my opinion. And you know,
what Pete Rose did as a player is not is
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not the same as what he did as a as
a coach. Now you can argue that no, I would
if he gambles a coach, he probably gambles a player.
But you know evidence of that, you know, like there's
evidence that actually happened, and so I don't know I
put him in, I put bonds into that's a whole
different discussion. But they've been so hard on Pete Rose,
so they haven't done it, and you know that's not
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not great for baseball. But Otani being cleared its awesome.
And now there were no questions about the Dodgers, right,
I mean as they head to the postseason fairly soon,
they'll be the you know, they're gonna win one hundred
and ten games and be the number one seed in baseball,
and you know there there won't be any questions of
the postseason about whether or not they should be playing
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or show Tani should be playing. So it's his best
for baseball.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, it really is. And hey, man, we.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Go from Otani apparently not betting to us betting.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Right, do you have any Masters bets?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, alrighty, you got like a laundry list of stuff here,
I have like four.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's so interesting. So the storm. I live in Charlotte,
North Carolina, and we get the same weather that Augusta gets.
That's sort of the way it typically works. We get
everything from Atlanta kind of moves north through US and
it completely missed, like it's like way south of Charlotte.
I'm shocked that they canceled or spend the first round
where the storm actually never made it to us. So
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I hope they get to play golf soon. Because there's
no rain in Augusta right now, not in the forecast,
same as Charlotte. The thing completely changes. Weird how storms
work like that. Okay, here we go, there's my weather report.
So I have I have a Shoftley top ten finish.
He's playing some great golf right now. He's finished in
the top twenty. I think it's seven straight majors. I
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don't like wagering Brian on outright winners. I feel like
the value is just not there, like I just don't
even sprinkling, Like that's just I don't know. I feel
like top ten's and top twenty are much better. I
have a Henley top twenty as well. He's played well
at Augusta and his profile kind of fits someone who
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plays well this weekend. I have I have Brooks kept
as a top ten finisher as well. I did sprinkle
him to win. I haven't done Scheffler yet. Everyone's doing
like a scheffer to win. I feel like two low
over priced at the moment. Now, I guess winning is
winning and you'll take any chance you can have to win.
(12:33):
But that's what I have right now. I think I'll
probably jump in you know, live, you know, take some
live wagers. A couple I have looked at, by the way,
for like ideas for live wagering is uh, you know,
Rory is typically not in it on Sunday, but then
plays really well and finishing in the top ten. I
think there's a live wagering opportunity on Rory in the
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Masters at some point Tiger everyone loves betting Tiger Woods
props for this event. Depending on what happens with the
backup today, he might have to play twenty seven holes tomorrow. Brian,
I feel like that's a Tiger missed the cut opportunity,
right He's I think he makes the cut if he
doesn't have to wait today and plays eighteen and eighteen tomorrow.
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But twenty seven in a day for him feels like
a lot for his leg and his body is back,
and so I might look to fade Tiger at some point.
I hate saying that out loud, but man, that's a
that's an opportunity I think for for a.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Fade, I think that's a good angle right there. And
like Eddie said at the very top of the hour,
the Great Eddy Garcia, the weather forecast for weeks today,
it's a freaking brutalize.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's nice. It starts off like, look, Gus, this is
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You know that the temperature seventy seven nice, not bat
and it's like win gus forty to forty five miles
per hour. There's like a ninety percent chance of thunderstorm.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So is do they like, will they hold it up
it for the wind or is it for the rain
or the thunderstorms? Because I never you know, obviously forty
five hours wins eight is not great to golf.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
In, right, Yeah, that's that's problematic right there. You know,
tough for a drive if you're facing a forty five
mile per hour wind gust.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You're an outdoor sport though, so like you sort of
have to play through these things sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Know, I think this shows are golf ignorance. I would
think they would hold it up if it was that bad,
because think of it, if your tea time is different,
imagine if you don't, you aren't facing that wind and
somebody else sees it like, that's why.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I don't have to do that, right, Yeah, because you
have to be fair with the time that you know,
make it fit for everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
The Tiger fade not a bad angle, though.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
There was one other wager that I haven't been able
to see yet, and well I haven't. I saw it originally,
and it's down now that I think I'd love to play,
but I don't think I can't anymore. Is the head
to head matchup between Phil and Tiger? I would Phil
was minus one thirty, I would take Phil.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, hey that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You got a lot golfin. Do you have wagers down?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'm you know, I will get down with this, and
I'm like you, I'm looking more top ten, top twenty.
I saw Hideki Matsuyama, like top twenty is minus one forty.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It seems like he's going to get to the top twenty.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Sorry, I have him as a top twenty two, I think,
let me see, let me pull it up here. I
don't have one forty, I don't think. But there's so
many ways that there's so many little fun wagers.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
To do, and you can go top ten hit with
Matsuyama top ten is like plus one seventy getting at
almost two to one odds at him getting Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Ooh, I have a sorry, I have more. I have
a Scottie Scheffler top five minus one oh five. I
have a Scheffler and Brooks Kopka to finish top five
at plus nine hundred. I have a decy top twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
What was your price on that top twenty?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, yeah it is it is one yeah yeah, uh Kopka,
I have I sprinkled in him to win. Kepka feels
like the one guy no one's talking about, Like he's
I know, he's a live guy and whatnot. But he
won a major last year. He's playing much better golf
for this time they did last year, and he's he's
won five majors. He's been in the situations before he
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finished second last season in the Masters. Why no one's
talking about him? You know, Schoffley and Scheffler and McElroy,
I don't. I think Brooks Keopka is like kind of
a forgotten guy who has who has five majors already.
I love my position with him.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah yeah, hey man, it might be uh might be
some gold at the end of that rainbow with Koepka.
You know, we'll get some more masters talk in as
we go through. We got a lot to do man,
lots to do it, lots of ball. The NFL Draft
is approaching us quickly, just two weeks away, so we'll
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how about the ladies man monster ratings in the women's
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college basketball tournament, the NCAA Tournament there where man Caitlin
Clark is just a ratings juggernaut. The championship game between
Iowa and South Carolina, it drew eighteen point seven million
viewers on ABC, and that was almost four million more
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than the men where Yukon and Purdue met in the
championship game. Now i was on TBS, there's network TVABC,
there's cable TV on TBS, so that factors in there.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But that's not to take any shine away from the ladies.
When you get.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Almost nineteen million people watching the championship game, that is outstanding.
Any big takeaways or when you look at this being sustainable,
that's the thing though.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I want to go right to Hayterville over here.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's just realistic ville, if you will, where you don't
have Caitlin Clark going forward like.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It was the perfect storm this year.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't think that's taking any credit away from them
to say that, but I don't see how you sustain this.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
It was an amazing one year. What was it?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Kind of like the is a weird comparison, but remember
in the NBA where they had that weird year in
around twenty sixteen where they had the huge television money
bump and the salary cap went way up, and like
Mozgov is getting sixty million dollars a year and that
just wasn't going to be the case year in and
year out. And I think it's similar with the women.
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It was a one year, huge bump, perfect storm. I
hope that they can sustain it somewhat, but it's not
gonna be to the same degree.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
There's no way, no.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I I had a job for five years on Pactove
Radio and that job has disappeared because the pac TV
has disappeared. So but part of my job was to
watch women's college basketball. We interviewed the players and coaches
and the tar V interview. Stanford's head coaches retired yes
two days ago yesterday, thirty eight years there one of
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the best coaches of all time, like we interviewed, We
had her on the show all the time, like and
so part of obviously following the sport is watching the sport.
And I will say this, Brian, I probably didn't want
to add women's college basketball to the things that I
like to watch. I kind of maxed out with with sports,
and I probably didn't want to like it, to be
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honest with you, and I started to watch it. And
the Packed twelve has been good at women's college basketball, right,
Stanford won a championship three years ago. And you look
at what Oregon did with Sabrina and some of the
schools with Oregon State Arizona being the championship game, and
you know, you come to watch it and you realize,
like a lot of high level sports and at the
top of the sport, it's really good basketball. It's it's
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like legitimately good basketball the people. That's funny, Brian, because
the people that complain that they didn't watch the NBA
because it's not fundamental enough, for the same people that
complain they don't watch women's college basketball, it's like, well
that's you want the fundamentals are there, Well, that's the
game you want to watch because they do everything that
we remember sort of basketball ass right. They They have
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passed the ball, there's a post game, there's in and
out picking. It's not just about kind of like the
men's game of time where threes are layups, Right, Brian,
that's a different type of game. And you started watching
a little bit of it, and people started noticing a
little bit more. And then you get to a point
now where because of social media and I think naming likeness,
there's more attention given to some of the top players.
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And of course Kaylyn Clark is one of them because
she's incredible and the way she plays is unique to
the game. They ever had anyone like her that shoots
many threes and makes as many threes as Kaylyn Clark.
And so the timing, to me has been sort of
perfect for women's college basketball to take advantage of sort
of the era we're in right now, and I L.
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Brian has made a big difference because players are staying
longer in school now, and you look at college basketball
and it's hard to find stars like marketable. Like who
in men's college basketball this season is a marketable star.
They all just go to the NBA and as soon
as they're have their one year and they're great, you
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know what I mean. And when we call basketball, everyone stayed, right,
Everyone stayed Kayln Clark, State, Angel Ree stayed, and you know,
let's go so on. Plus you have young players like
like like Juju walk into the USC and so you
have these marketable players who stay in the sport, and
it benefited from all those things. They all all these
things came together all at once to make this season
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so special for the sport. So your question about whether
they can sustain it, No, it will never be in
my opinion, what it was this year. But that doesn't
mean the sport just disappears. No one watches that anymore.
I feel like we've gotten to point now where people
continue to watch it. Are you getting you know, peak
twenty four million people to watch a championship game? Probably not,
unless there's another Kaitlin Clark around the you know, around
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the corner. Probably not. But Kennon Clark's doing like national commercials,
like it all worked out. If there was no NIL, Brian,
I feel like she wouldn't be as big, right, she
wouldn't be national commercials, she wouldn't be all over the place.
That wasn't allowed five years ago, and now it's allowed,
and now it's it's it's part of the ecosystem of
college sports, and so I and I also think too,
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like we're college football, in college basketball, there's so much
attention paid to like, you know, the NIL is ruining
the and blah blah blah, blah blah. Where women's college
basketball it's like no anything. That's a big reason why
it's successful right now and no one cares, but like
good good for the sports, and so I think all
those things have come together all at once and in
(24:13):
the end, Brian, here's the number one thing though, it's
actually good basketball. You know, if it was bad basketball,
it was Caitlin Clark a bunch of threes and no
one else doing anything good. I don't think we watch
it as much, but like it's good basketball South Carolina is.
They played good ball. It's fun to watch them play.
So I think all these things happened at once that
have made it a success.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Right and look, man, it's I think there are two
things going on where we can look to the future
and how sustainable it is that you draw monster ratings
like this on the regular and I don't think so
that I think that does a disservice to how big
Caitlin Clark has been for women's college basketball, because she
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has been a ratings juggernaut. It wasn't even just the
championship game against South Carolina. The numbers against ls you
were huge. The final four numbers were monstrous, and it
just kept growing and growing and growing. So you can't
just make it sound like, oh yeah, just the next
girl up, she'll just fill the shoes of Kaitlyn Clark
and be that big of a new work like that.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
No, did you see the report? So the women's college
the women's basketball schedule is kind of unique where they
go straight from their season to the draft, which is
I think Tax Day Monday, right, and their season starts
like May fourteenth for WNBA, like it goes right into it,
which is I mean, that's a and they play the
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same year. It's it's a lot. That's a quick schedule,
a quick turnaround.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It is.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think I saw a report that thirty six of
Kaitlyn Clark's forty games for.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The Right right nationally televised.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, so, any the Las Vegas Aces move from their
arena to to the big arena in the city for
Kaitlin Clark, there's a thirst for her. So look, is
there going to be a thirst for you know, women
college basketball next year in the same way that's gonna
be on the on the you know, not WNBA on
the college side, probably not. But like I'm sort of
(26:08):
now a fan, you know, like I'm locked in. I know.
You know me, Brian, I'm not. I'm not watching much
basketball to football's done. So it's like they're not gonna
stuck being in November to watch women's college basketball or
men's college basketball to be fair, but I'm gonna watch
a tournament and I think too. The last part is
the legal sports wagering man has changed the game, like
(26:29):
you can. I live in a state now where I'm
it's March. It's March eleventh. It's like, that's my big
day for me. It's been a month actually now on
April eleventh. Being able to wager on these games and
the props, the props is a huge thing. It's offshore,
the props stink, and being able to to watch games
and put money on some of these games. I wasn't
(26:51):
all successful that successful in betting women's college basketball and
March Madness, but being able to do that, the option
to have that is really gonna help their.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Game well as long as it sticks around, because yeah,
c doaa's trying to make sure that goes far far away.
It's gonna happen in Louisiana in August, where college props
are no a thing.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to use them.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It can. It goes back to people not understanding how
this world works. Because a college athlete, the idea, obviously
is if there's props available, so you can wager on
their point total, their rebound total, their assist total, being
can essentially bet on themselves or bet against themselves and
(27:36):
fix the game, right, fix the performance. But you can't
get down a lot of money to do that if
you wager five thousand dollars, let's say which and there's
a lot of money for some, but really not a
lot in the gambling world, right for big wagers on
a rebound prop. On a Wednesday night for a women's
college basketball game, every alarm bell goes off. Sure is
(28:00):
this happening? And it happens once or twice, and then
you get caught, and it's it's not worth it for
those college athletes to do that, Like you already, the
athlete has five thousand dollars to put down in a
college basketball game, probably has a decent amount of NL money.
They don't need to throw games for themselves, and so
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banning props to me doesn't fix a problem we even have.
And it's another example of people not understanding how that
world works.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Right, And like you said, it's better for your sport
if the interest grows because people have some money on
the over CARDOSO rebound total or whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And then you called yourself out. You called yourself out there.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Just saying if you had that seventeen rebounds for you,
do it or not. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I got what it's at ten and a half and
I'm like, and she gets seventeen. I'm like, that's the
way to show me. Card dozo? You know I should
have had.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Over thirty one and a half points eighteen and th oh.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Did You're sitting there like this is beautiful?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
One need thirty point seven minutes? I'm like, I need
one shot please? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I took Iowa on an adjusted line plus ten and
a half and plus eleven and a half and they
just melted down at the end. It didn't get there,
but it was fun And to your point, it's better
for your sport if you have that availability to bet
on that it helps drive interest.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'll say this before we move on.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
We could talk about the ratings not being sustainable because
they're no longer Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Going forward, that's gonna take a hit.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's not like South Carolina and NC State in the
women's Final four drew numbers like Iowa and Yukon, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Like, it's not like the ratings were all over.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's good, it's good, it's just not you know, double
that fourteen million. Yeah, but that was the championship game
between Iowa and South Carolina that drew almost nineteen million viewers.
That was the most watched basketball game we're talking men's
women's college basketball, NBA anything since twenty nineteen like that.
(30:09):
That's a hell of a stat right there, if you're
talking any NBA playoff, NBA finals, men's women's that was
the highest rated game since twenty nineteen for the women's final.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's great for them. Stars batter Man and the last
kind of two things quickly that I think have shown
that women's college basketballs arrived. It's the old heads are
hating on Kaitlyn Clark, right, Like that's a very like
arrived sort of you know debate, right like who's the goat?
And you know WNBA, can she do it in WNBA?
Like that's just a great like a perfect one, and
(30:44):
that we basically have decided to make villains in women's
college basketball. Whether you know again it's unfair to Angel Reese.
She's exactly right about her feelings about that, but she's
been turning to a villain, and Kaylyn Clark has as well.
There people didn't like hate Kaitlyn Clark. I don't know why.
I get some of her her antics on the court.
Sometimes I'm like, yeah, maybe just don't complain about everything.
(31:05):
But she definitely does like to look at the referees
after things don't go her way. But so does a
lot of athletes, not like just a card problem. But
people don't like her either. And villains is when you
know you've arrived, man, because sports need villains as successful
sports have a ton of villains. It's what they do right.
(31:25):
And so I think that's here more signs that the
women's college basketballs arrived.
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Speaker 4 (31:40):
Are you getting geared up for the NBA Playoffs?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We got a little taste of pre NBA playoff action
last night. As that he said, with the Nuggets beating Minnesota.
So Denver has a one game lead in the West
and they're probably gonna lock up the one seed. They
end with a couple of dog teams. They got Meds
in there, they got San Antono, you know, in there.
So if they run the table, they're going to be
the one seed. I'm all in, man, you there yet, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I made a dumb wager the other day though, So
I took the Lakers to make the playoffs, and obviously
that's the final eight, like like a minus one twenty
and then it just immediately Anthony Davis didn't play. They
lost them when the Warriors shot sixty three point the Lakers.
It's like, you know that that BET's contingent on them. Well,
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obviously winning the winning a play in spot, right, and
it's much easier to do it as a seven and
eight seed than it is to do as a nine
or ten seed. And so just immediately lost all value
in that wager. Thank you Lakers for that. Uh not
not really, you know. The n b A to me
is a fantastic playoff product. I don't get into it
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very much in the regular season. I have a a
A an NBA wagering strategy for the postseason though, and
last year I think I was sixteen and fourteen maybe
a little bit. I barely was ahead, So maybe it's
not awesome, but I wasn't behind. I like betting first
quarters in the NBA playoffs. Yeah, you get a lot
(33:11):
of especially early early in the postseason, you get a
lot of sort of predictable outcomes in the first quarter.
Like if you have a team that's like favored by eight, nine, ten,
the first quarter numbers like two and a half, three
and a half somewhere around there. And a lot of
these one seeds, man, the first couple of games at home,
they just dominate in the first quarter. They come out
and just bury the eight seed. And then game three
(33:33):
when the eight seed comes back home, their first quarters
great all the time. They always play great in the
first quarter. I just kind of like wager on that
early in the postseason, or I just take first quarters, man,
It's like I just bet on sort of a motion
and how these guys play early in games.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I don't hate it, man, I don't hate it, you
know me. I'm a maniac with the NBA stuff. I'll
bet regular season NBA there was something ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That happened last night. I'll tell you real fast.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So I was in on the Sun and Clippers. The
Clippers are resting the Beard, No James Harden, no Kawhi Leonard,
no Paul George. We got all these backups, and so
I'm like, okay, give me the Suns. The Clippers start
off hot. They're up ten to three, so it's basically
even money. Who wins the first half. I'm like, oh gosh,
(34:20):
give me the Suns. Okay, the Sons Jeff are leading
by fifteen points with five minutes left in the half.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Okay, they're up by fifteen.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
The Clippers, inspired by Bones Highland, the Clippers and the
half on a twenty to four run to win it
by one point. Go to the half up by one.
I don't know which run is more ridiculous, the twenty
to four run with five minutes left or this the
Sons were up by ten with one fifty three left
(34:54):
in the half. They just have to win the half.
They've got a ten point lead. Clippers close on an
eleven and oh, run, I lose the bet.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I tailed you in the Brooklyn bet. That didn't go
very well.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
It didn't work out no, Yeah, the Raptors are resting
all of their guys. The Raptors are freaking brutal. And
it was a coin toss. It was a push in
the first quarter and then we had the Nets team
total over.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
They didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So yeah, thankfully Jokic comes through for me and the Nuggets.
Man like, Jokic is my money maker. My goodness, that
dude comes through for me all the time.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Do you take us over point to a rebound all
the time?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, just go points, rebounds, you could go combo. It's crazy,
but it's like forty seven and a half points, rebounds, assists,
You're like forty seven and a half. Yeah, he had
like nineteen at the end of the first quarter. Collectively,
He's just a freaking monster.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
But hey, what I'll do some I like some betting
in the postseason two.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, it's it's it's a good time man, all right.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
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Speaker 4 (36:02):
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I'm a big college football guy. What do you think
about this super league?
Speaker 6 (36:37):
This is.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Like a group of college presidents and some.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Other very important people that wear suits and ties and
they're they're trying to say, hey, the current model of
college football is dead. So we're looking at this new
super league of about eighty schools. We have eight different
conferences of ten teams apiece. There's some like Europe being
soccer element to it, where one of the conferences it's
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just you either get relegated if you suck, you get
promoted if you're really good, so you're at the top
level here.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
It's a fun idea.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
There are so many working parts to make this a reality.
I don't see it happening anytime soon. If ever, what
do you think about the super league here in college football.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
So if you noticed the quotes that came out of
this were from presidents that are not in the SEC
or Big Ten's right for the two power conferences. I
do think at some point we are getting to this system, Brian,
where we have an upper league, a lower league, a
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middle league, three leagues, however you want to group them.
It's getting there someday, just not now. The way the
sport has moved with or the two major conferences and
the money that's being generated by those schools, it's going
to turn into the haves and have nots, right, And
(38:11):
we're seeing the ACC schools Florida State, Clemson suing the
a CD because they want to leave. They want to
be part of the two big the big two conferences.
And I understand that because I'm an organ guy. I
was like, man, can we please go to the Big
ten because I want to be part of that conference too, right,
I want to be a part of the big dog conference.
And so we're gonna get there one day, it's just
(38:31):
not now. And and that proposal is d o ay.
If you remember, I'm not a big you know, soccer fan,
but I remember that the talk about that super league
they were going to form with the and remember I
think two owners like had to sell their teams because
the fan revolt was so big. Anytime me here super league,
I'm like, nope, out on that. But nonetheless, I think
(38:54):
we're getting there someday where we're going to have, you know,
a system where a conference or two or maybe one
giant conference pays the players a salary and they're basically
professional athletes, but you know, they play for a college
and we're getting there one day. I just don't think
it's gonna be now.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, Well that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So this organization is called College Sports Tomorrow, right, And
so they had a presentation last week and the Big Ten,
the SEC, the Big twelve, they all canceled their plans
for a sit down.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
And that's what That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
If you're holding all the cards, if you're the Big
ten in the SEC, why am I interested in changing
the whole landscape of college football? Where when we're in
the power position, Like why would Greg Sankee the SEC
commissioners say oh yeah, just blow up the SEC.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I'll go work at Pizza Hut. It's cool, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like they're not gonna let go of any of that
control willingly, so you're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
To pry it from them. That's a whole process.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You got TV contracts, there's a lot of moving parts,
so it's a fun idea, but to actually implement it, major.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Hurdles in that thing, a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
But we'll see see as we as the years go on,
if we get there at some point in the near future.
Coming up next, the Biggest Villains in Sports.
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the way tire buying should be. Good morning to you,
Jeff Schwartz, Good to be with you. We've got show. Hey,
Otani apparently cleared by the FEDS. Hi, it's his dirt
bag ex interpreter who turns out stall about four point
five million dollars to cover gambling debts. I didn't really
(01:16):
buy the story to begin with. But the FEDS are
saying Otani's in the clear. What do you make of this, Jeff, I.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Still don't believe this at all. We dabble heavily in
the wagering community. Well, good morning to you go when
everyone else this has smelt fishy the entire time, Brian,
as someone who you know, we've been lucky enough to
work with Bill Krackenberg right now for three years almost
long on the year three right, and we've learned a
(01:41):
lot from Bill as a professional gambler. And now, oh
show he Otani's interpreter used in offshore, not an off
short an illegal bookie, I should say. So it wasn't
like someone in Las Vegas had a sports book. But
getting down the amount of money alleged to have been wagered,
a guy making like two hundred and fifty grand ish
can't do that, Brian, There's no way. So what was
(02:06):
the collateral for the wagers? It had to be something
related to show hel Tony. Now maybe he very easily said, hey, man,
show he's my guy and he'll back me if I
get into too much trouble, and he show his collateral
and show had no idea. But the fact is I
guess the transferring of money. I understand that the athletes,
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and I'm one of them, I wasn't in this category
to have as much money. Often had people that manage
their money that aren't great with it. And you have
so much money and show hell Tony does that, you
might not notice four million dollars missing. That's kind of
wild to say, but it's certainly true. If you having
a big investment account, or you know a big account
where you've someone who has access to it and they
just go in there and take the money out, you
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might not notice if you have so much money, maybe
that's the way it worked. But to get to that
level where you owe four and a half million dollars, man,
I don't know. I don't believe it, Brian, I just don't. Yeah,
it is.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's a hard one to believe. Where it's one of
two things. Either what the Feds are saying is what
happened where Otani was in the dark, didn't know about this,
didn't see the money being withdrawn. This dirt bag interpreter
he found a way so that there were no bank
alerts that all this money as being withdrawn from Otani's
(03:26):
account or or like this is the biggest fall guy
of all time, at least in terms of gambling. That's
right where Otani did know, and this X interpreter is
just taking the fall for everything, and he's about to
plead guilty to federal charges. And it's one of two things.
That's what we're looking at here at this whole situation.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Look, it's really possible that that he did this against
not against the will, but but O'tani did not know.
I guess thing too, is that we both have friends
that gamble. And there are people that I know that gamble,
I believe or not more than I do. They're very
loud about it. Yeah, he never said to show. Hey,
(04:13):
like I got a million dollars on the soccer game.
Soccer matches would say, he just kept it to himself
this entire time. Yeah, you know those seeing those sort
of things. I find hard to believe a person who
gambled millions I supposely millions of dollars never told showing
he was gambling at all.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Yeah, I know, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Like like they're watching a soccer match. You know these people, man,
we were with them all the time. We have friends
that gamble. You can't show up about it, Yeah, I know, yeah,
and he just didn't and he's like never said a
word about it to anybody. It's very hard to be
best friend who's with every day.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, how could you keep that a secret? I mean really,
if you had that much money writing on it, if
you were getting that much more in the hole, right,
you just gambling and losing and the debt is piling
up and you're stealing. And I didn't breathe a word
of this to anyone. That is It's very hard to believe.
(05:16):
But that's what the Feds are saying. And hey, maybe
Otani if he was involved in gambling and he's got
his eyes dotted and tea's crossed and you can't prove it,
and that's the outcome that we get.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
You know, it's a crazy story, man, it really is.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
It's best for baseball that this disappears too. I'm not
saying that Baseball probably like, hey, Feds, can you know?
Can you not? But you know, it is best that
it's not a topic anymore, right, I mean I imagine
they wanted to go away as soon as possible. Part
of it is that they Baseball has been so hard
(05:53):
on Pete Rose, right, Yeah, and has made it their
mission to never let him back into baseball essentially. And
you know, we get debate obviously whether wagering on soccer
matches and wagering on your team they're not the same thing, right,
But the fact is they've been so hardcore on keeping
Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame and keeping
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him away from baseball and gam boo gambling, bad gambling.
And I agree you shouldn't wager on your own team,
really wager on your own sport as an athlete is
it's not good. It's just simple to put it right, like,
it's just not you shouldn't do that. It does question
the integrity of the game, which you never really want.
And again I the idea Brian of like games are
(06:37):
hard enough anyways, especially in football, and wager on yourself
and your team to win, like losing that game and
then losing money because you lost, it's it's even worse feeling.
At least you're you know, when that check clear is
on Tuesday of after a loss, trug at least they
got paid for this game. Imagine thinking that I owe
my bookie money because we lost. So I I agree
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with all those rules, but baseball have been so hard
on Pete Rose that if it was any evidence in
all the show Halo Tom was part of this, you
have to suspend them immediately for like a year, right,
you have to. You have to to give him a
huge punishment. And that's not good for baseball right now.
Baseball is a bunch of problems with their product. In
my opinion. Their pitchers are hurt, it's not their Baseball's fault,
(07:22):
per se. And the uniforms are awful, and they're getting
mocked every single day. I mean, Ryan, the Giants, I'm
a Giants fan. They're supposed to have their City Connect uniforms.
Yesterday just haven't arrived yet. Oh wow, yesterday a guy
slid in his pants, split completely open. You saw that.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
They just disintegrated.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
Yeah, how can baseball, a professional sports league, have a
situation where their uniforms are in such bad shape? You
mentioned the football never happened basketball. I mean, like these
guys having subparty when you remember basketball, try trying to
change the ball and like a weekend they're like, I say,
it worked, and they just went back to the regular ball.
Go back to your uniforms from last year. Like it's
(08:05):
just baseball's all these problems with people paying attention regionally.
It's very still very you know, very high high TV
ratings with nationally, and you can't have your best player suspended,
you know, for gambling. So and then again, I don't
think the fed's heard from baseball and decided, oh, let's
not investigat and let's let's clear show. Hey, but this
(08:26):
is the best result for baseball.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Oh, it's huge for baseball.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Right, We've got the Masters beginning today and we might
see a few Tiger Woods fist pumps. Hopefully, if we're lucky,
we will that Major League Baseball was doing a Tiger
Woods fist pump with the news coming out, because think
about all the stuff that you've seen, all the memes,
all the pictures, like I love it when Otani is
(08:51):
on deck and like Mookie bets, his name is on
the scoreboard and then it's like Otani bets, you know,
and all that stuff. So this isn't an MLB investigation
clearing Otani. These are the Feds clearing Otani. So this
is tremendous for baseball. They don't have any sticky decisions.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
To make or they're not this right.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
They're in this tough situation where with Pete Rose as
the backdrop and you've banned him for life.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Now all of a sudden, Otani is betting on baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
What do you do even if it's just a Calvin
Ridley type thing in the NFL and he's gone for
an entire season, which he would have to be at
the minimum, they would look like the biggest hypocrites. Once
he's cleared and back in baseball, which he clearly would be,
you don't.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Have to go down that road at all. That is
amazing for baseball.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's fantastic. And yeah, look you've been so hard on
Pete Rose and we canna have that discussion. I think
he should be in the Hall of Fame. I mean,
I also think Perry Bond should be in the Hall
of Fame. The Hall of Fame is a museum right
of history of your sport in my opinion. And you know,
what Pete Rose did as a player is not is
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not the same as what he did as a as
a coach. Now you can argue that no, I would
if he gambles a coach, he probably gambles a player.
But you know evidence of that, you know, like there's
evidence that actually happened, and so I don't know I
put him in, I put bonds into that's a whole
different discussion. But they've been so hard on Pete Rose,
so they haven't done it, and you know that's not
(10:28):
not great for baseball. But Otani being cleared its awesome.
And now there were no questions about the Dodgers, right,
I mean as they head to the postseason fairly soon,
they'll be the you know, they're gonna win one hundred
and ten games and be the number one seed in baseball,
and you know there there won't be any questions of
the postseason about whether or not they should be playing
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or show Tani should be playing. So it's his best
for baseball.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, it really is. And hey, man, we.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Go from Otani apparently not betting to us betting.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Right, do you have any Masters bets?
Speaker 5 (11:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, alrighty, you got like a laundry list of stuff here,
I have like four.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's so interesting. So the storm. I live in Charlotte,
North Carolina, and we get the same weather that Augusta gets.
That's sort of the way it typically works. We get
everything from Atlanta kind of moves north through US and
it completely missed, like it's like way south of Charlotte.
I'm shocked that they canceled or spend the first round
where the storm actually never made it to us. So
(11:28):
I hope they get to play golf soon. Because there's
no rain in Augusta right now, not in the forecast,
same as Charlotte. The thing completely changes. Weird how storms
work like that. Okay, here we go, there's my weather report.
So I have I have a Shoftley top ten finish.
He's playing some great golf right now. He's finished in
the top twenty. I think it's seven straight majors. I
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don't like wagering Brian on outright winners. I feel like
the value is just not there, like I just don't
even sprinkling, Like that's just I don't know. I feel
like top ten's and top twenty are much better. I
have a Henley top twenty as well. He's played well
at Augusta and his profile kind of fits someone who
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plays well this weekend. I have I have Brooks kept
as a top ten finisher as well. I did sprinkle
him to win. I haven't done Scheffler yet. Everyone's doing
like a scheffer to win. I feel like two low
over priced at the moment. Now, I guess winning is
winning and you'll take any chance you can have to win.
(12:33):
But that's what I have right now. I think I'll
probably jump in you know, live, you know, take some
live wagers. A couple I have looked at, by the way,
for like ideas for live wagering is uh, you know,
Rory is typically not in it on Sunday, but then
plays really well and finishing in the top ten. I
think there's a live wagering opportunity on Rory in the
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Masters at some point Tiger everyone loves betting Tiger Woods
props for this event. Depending on what happens with the
backup today, he might have to play twenty seven holes tomorrow. Brian,
I feel like that's a Tiger missed the cut opportunity,
right He's I think he makes the cut if he
doesn't have to wait today and plays eighteen and eighteen tomorrow.
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But twenty seven in a day for him feels like
a lot for his leg and his body is back,
and so I might look to fade Tiger at some point.
I hate saying that out loud, but man, that's a
that's an opportunity I think for for a.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Fade, I think that's a good angle right there. And
like Eddie said at the very top of the hour,
the Great Eddy Garcia, the weather forecast for weeks today,
it's a freaking brutalize.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
It's nice. It starts off like, look, Gus, this is
seventy seven.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
You know that the temperature seventy seven nice, not bat
and it's like win gus forty to forty five miles
per hour. There's like a ninety percent chance of thunderstorm.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
So is do they like, will they hold it up
it for the wind or is it for the rain
or the thunderstorms? Because I never you know, obviously forty
five hours wins eight is not great to golf.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
In, right, Yeah, that's that's problematic right there. You know,
tough for a drive if you're facing a forty five
mile per hour wind gust.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
You're an outdoor sport though, so like you sort of
have to play through these things sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
Know, I think this shows are golf ignorance. I would
think they would hold it up if it was that bad,
because think of it, if your tea time is different,
imagine if you don't, you aren't facing that wind and
somebody else sees it like, that's why.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
I don't have to do that, right, Yeah, because you
have to be fair with the time that you know,
make it fit for everybody.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
The Tiger fade not a bad angle, though.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
There was one other wager that I haven't been able
to see yet, and well I haven't. I saw it originally,
and it's down now that I think I'd love to play,
but I don't think I can't anymore. Is the head
to head matchup between Phil and Tiger? I would Phil
was minus one thirty, I would take Phil.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yeah, yeah, hey that makes sense to me.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
You got a lot golfin. Do you have wagers down?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
I'm you know, I will get down with this, and
I'm like you, I'm looking more top ten, top twenty.
I saw Hideki Matsuyama, like top twenty is minus one forty.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
It seems like he's going to get to the top twenty.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Sorry, I have him as a top twenty two, I think,
let me see, let me pull it up here. I
don't have one forty, I don't think. But there's so
many ways that there's so many little fun wagers.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
To do, and you can go top ten hit with
Matsuyama top ten is like plus one seventy getting at
almost two to one odds at him getting Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Ooh, I have a sorry, I have more. I have
a Scottie Scheffler top five minus one oh five. I
have a Scheffler and Brooks Kopka to finish top five
at plus nine hundred. I have a decy top twenty.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
What was your price on that top twenty?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah, yeah it is it is one yeah yeah, uh Kopka,
I have I sprinkled in him to win. Kepka feels
like the one guy no one's talking about, Like he's
I know, he's a live guy and whatnot. But he
won a major last year. He's playing much better golf
for this time they did last year, and he's he's
won five majors. He's been in the situations before he
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finished second last season in the Masters. Why no one's
talking about him? You know, Schoffley and Scheffler and McElroy,
I don't. I think Brooks Keopka is like kind of
a forgotten guy who has who has five majors already.
I love my position with him.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah yeah, hey man, it might be uh might be
some gold at the end of that rainbow with Koepka.
You know, we'll get some more masters talk in as
we go through. We got a lot to do man,
lots to do it, lots of ball. The NFL Draft
is approaching us quickly, just two weeks away, so we'll
have draft nuggets for you throughout coming up from the
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how about the ladies man monster ratings in the women's
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college basketball tournament, the NCAA Tournament there where man Caitlin
Clark is just a ratings juggernaut. The championship game between
Iowa and South Carolina, it drew eighteen point seven million
viewers on ABC, and that was almost four million more
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than the men where Yukon and Purdue met in the
championship game. Now i was on TBS, there's network TVABC,
there's cable TV on TBS, so that factors in there.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But that's not to take any shine away from the ladies.
When you get.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Almost nineteen million people watching the championship game, that is outstanding.
Any big takeaways or when you look at this being sustainable,
that's the thing though.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I want to go right to Hayterville over here.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
It's just realistic ville, if you will, where you don't
have Caitlin Clark going forward like.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
It was the perfect storm this year.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I don't think that's taking any credit away from them
to say that, but I don't see how you sustain this.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
It was an amazing one year. What was it?
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Kind of like the is a weird comparison, but remember
in the NBA where they had that weird year in
around twenty sixteen where they had the huge television money
bump and the salary cap went way up, and like
Mozgov is getting sixty million dollars a year and that
just wasn't going to be the case year in and
year out. And I think it's similar with the women.
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It was a one year, huge bump, perfect storm. I
hope that they can sustain it somewhat, but it's not
gonna be to the same degree.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
There's no way, no.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
So.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I I had a job for five years on Pactove
Radio and that job has disappeared because the pac TV
has disappeared. So but part of my job was to
watch women's college basketball. We interviewed the players and coaches
and the tar V interview. Stanford's head coaches retired yes
two days ago yesterday, thirty eight years there one of
(20:35):
the best coaches of all time, like we interviewed, We
had her on the show all the time, like and
so part of obviously following the sport is watching the sport.
And I will say this, Brian, I probably didn't want
to add women's college basketball to the things that I
like to watch. I kind of maxed out with with sports,
and I probably didn't want to like it, to be
(20:56):
honest with you, and I started to watch it. And
the Packed twelve has been good at women's college basketball, right,
Stanford won a championship three years ago. And you look
at what Oregon did with Sabrina and some of the
schools with Oregon State Arizona being the championship game, and
you know, you come to watch it and you realize,
like a lot of high level sports and at the
top of the sport, it's really good basketball. It's it's
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like legitimately good basketball the people. That's funny, Brian, because
the people that complain that they didn't watch the NBA
because it's not fundamental enough, for the same people that
complain they don't watch women's college basketball, it's like, well
that's you want the fundamentals are there, Well, that's the
game you want to watch because they do everything that
we remember sort of basketball ass right. They They have
(21:42):
passed the ball, there's a post game, there's in and
out picking. It's not just about kind of like the
men's game of time where threes are layups, Right, Brian,
that's a different type of game. And you started watching
a little bit of it, and people started noticing a
little bit more. And then you get to a point
now where because of social media and I think naming likeness,
there's more attention given to some of the top players.
(22:04):
And of course Kaylyn Clark is one of them because
she's incredible and the way she plays is unique to
the game. They ever had anyone like her that shoots
many threes and makes as many threes as Kaylyn Clark.
And so the timing, to me has been sort of
perfect for women's college basketball to take advantage of sort
of the era we're in right now, and I L.
(22:25):
Brian has made a big difference because players are staying
longer in school now, and you look at college basketball
and it's hard to find stars like marketable. Like who
in men's college basketball this season is a marketable star.
They all just go to the NBA and as soon
as they're have their one year and they're great, you
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know what I mean. And when we call basketball, everyone stayed, right,
Everyone stayed Kayln Clark, State, Angel Ree stayed, and you know,
let's go so on. Plus you have young players like
like like Juju walk into the USC and so you
have these marketable players who stay in the sport, and
it benefited from all those things. They all all these
things came together all at once to make this season
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so special for the sport. So your question about whether
they can sustain it, No, it will never be in
my opinion, what it was this year. But that doesn't
mean the sport just disappears. No one watches that anymore.
I feel like we've gotten to point now where people
continue to watch it. Are you getting you know, peak
twenty four million people to watch a championship game? Probably not,
unless there's another Kaitlin Clark around the you know, around
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the corner. Probably not. But Kennon Clark's doing like national commercials,
like it all worked out. If there was no NIL, Brian,
I feel like she wouldn't be as big, right, she
wouldn't be national commercials, she wouldn't be all over the place.
That wasn't allowed five years ago, and now it's allowed,
and now it's it's it's part of the ecosystem of
college sports, and so I and I also think too,
(23:51):
like we're college football, in college basketball, there's so much
attention paid to like, you know, the NIL is ruining
the and blah blah blah, blah blah. Where women's college
basketball it's like no anything. That's a big reason why
it's successful right now and no one cares, but like
good good for the sports, and so I think all
those things have come together all at once and in
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the end, Brian, here's the number one thing though, it's
actually good basketball. You know, if it was bad basketball,
it was Caitlin Clark a bunch of threes and no
one else doing anything good. I don't think we watch
it as much, but like it's good basketball South Carolina is.
They played good ball. It's fun to watch them play.
So I think all these things happened at once that
have made it a success.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Right and look, man, it's I think there are two
things going on where we can look to the future
and how sustainable it is that you draw monster ratings
like this on the regular and I don't think so
that I think that does a disservice to how big
Caitlin Clark has been for women's college basketball, because she
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has been a ratings juggernaut. It wasn't even just the
championship game against South Carolina. The numbers against ls you
were huge. The final four numbers were monstrous, and it
just kept growing and growing and growing. So you can't
just make it sound like, oh yeah, just the next
girl up, she'll just fill the shoes of Kaitlyn Clark
and be that big of a new work like that.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
No, did you see the report? So the women's college
the women's basketball schedule is kind of unique where they
go straight from their season to the draft, which is
I think Tax Day Monday, right, and their season starts
like May fourteenth for WNBA, like it goes right into it,
which is I mean, that's a and they play the
(25:35):
same year. It's it's a lot. That's a quick schedule,
a quick turnaround.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It is.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I think I saw a report that thirty six of
Kaitlyn Clark's forty games for.
Speaker 4 (25:43):
The Right right nationally televised.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, so, any the Las Vegas Aces move from their
arena to to the big arena in the city for
Kaitlin Clark, there's a thirst for her. So look, is
there going to be a thirst for you know, women
college basketball next year in the same way that's gonna
be on the on the you know, not WNBA on
the college side, probably not. But like I'm sort of
(26:08):
now a fan, you know, like I'm locked in. I know.
You know me, Brian, I'm not. I'm not watching much
basketball to football's done. So it's like they're not gonna
stuck being in November to watch women's college basketball or
men's college basketball to be fair, but I'm gonna watch
a tournament and I think too. The last part is
the legal sports wagering man has changed the game, like
(26:29):
you can. I live in a state now where I'm
it's March. It's March eleventh. It's like, that's my big
day for me. It's been a month actually now on
April eleventh. Being able to wager on these games and
the props, the props is a huge thing. It's offshore,
the props stink, and being able to to watch games
and put money on some of these games. I wasn't
(26:51):
all successful that successful in betting women's college basketball and
March Madness, but being able to do that, the option
to have that is really gonna help their.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
Game well as long as it sticks around, because yeah,
c doaa's trying to make sure that goes far far away.
It's gonna happen in Louisiana in August, where college props
are no a thing.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, you're not gonna be able to use them.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
It can. It goes back to people not understanding how
this world works. Because a college athlete, the idea, obviously
is if there's props available, so you can wager on
their point total, their rebound total, their assist total, being
can essentially bet on themselves or bet against themselves and
(27:36):
fix the game, right, fix the performance. But you can't
get down a lot of money to do that if
you wager five thousand dollars, let's say which and there's
a lot of money for some, but really not a
lot in the gambling world, right for big wagers on
a rebound prop. On a Wednesday night for a women's
college basketball game, every alarm bell goes off. Sure is
(28:00):
this happening? And it happens once or twice, and then
you get caught, and it's it's not worth it for
those college athletes to do that, Like you already, the
athlete has five thousand dollars to put down in a
college basketball game, probably has a decent amount of NL money.
They don't need to throw games for themselves, and so
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banning props to me doesn't fix a problem we even have.
And it's another example of people not understanding how that
world works.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Right, And like you said, it's better for your sport
if the interest grows because people have some money on
the over CARDOSO rebound total or whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
And then you called yourself out. You called yourself out there.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Just saying if you had that seventeen rebounds for you,
do it or not. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
I got what it's at ten and a half and
I'm like, and she gets seventeen. I'm like, that's the
way to show me. Card dozo? You know I should
have had.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Over thirty one and a half points eighteen and th oh.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Did You're sitting there like this is beautiful?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
One need thirty point seven minutes? I'm like, I need
one shot please? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
I took Iowa on an adjusted line plus ten and
a half and plus eleven and a half and they
just melted down at the end. It didn't get there,
but it was fun And to your point, it's better
for your sport if you have that availability to bet
on that it helps drive interest.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
I'll say this before we move on.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
We could talk about the ratings not being sustainable because
they're no longer Caitlin Clark.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
Going forward, that's gonna take a hit.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
It's not like South Carolina and NC State in the
women's Final four drew numbers like Iowa and Yukon, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Like, it's not like the ratings were all over.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
It's good, it's good, it's just not you know, double
that fourteen million. Yeah, but that was the championship game
between Iowa and South Carolina that drew almost nineteen million viewers.
That was the most watched basketball game we're talking men's
women's college basketball, NBA anything since twenty nineteen like that.
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That's a hell of a stat right there, if you're
talking any NBA playoff, NBA finals, men's women's that was
the highest rated game since twenty nineteen for the women's final.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
That's great for them. Stars batter Man and the last
kind of two things quickly that I think have shown
that women's college basketballs arrived. It's the old heads are
hating on Kaitlyn Clark, right, Like that's a very like
arrived sort of you know debate, right like who's the goat?
And you know WNBA, can she do it in WNBA?
Like that's just a great like a perfect one, and
(30:44):
that we basically have decided to make villains in women's
college basketball. Whether you know again it's unfair to Angel Reese.
She's exactly right about her feelings about that, but she's
been turning to a villain, and Kaylyn Clark has as well.
There people didn't like hate Kaitlyn Clark. I don't know why.
I get some of her her antics on the court.
Sometimes I'm like, yeah, maybe just don't complain about everything.
(31:05):
But she definitely does like to look at the referees
after things don't go her way. But so does a
lot of athletes, not like just a card problem. But
people don't like her either. And villains is when you
know you've arrived, man, because sports need villains as successful
sports have a ton of villains. It's what they do right.
(31:25):
And so I think that's here more signs that the
women's college basketballs arrived.
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Speaker 4 (31:40):
Are you getting geared up for the NBA Playoffs?
Speaker 2 (31:43):
We got a little taste of pre NBA playoff action
last night. As that he said, with the Nuggets beating Minnesota.
So Denver has a one game lead in the West
and they're probably gonna lock up the one seed. They
end with a couple of dog teams. They got Meds
in there, they got San Antono, you know, in there.
So if they run the table, they're going to be
the one seed. I'm all in, man, you there yet, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
I made a dumb wager the other day though, So
I took the Lakers to make the playoffs, and obviously
that's the final eight, like like a minus one twenty
and then it just immediately Anthony Davis didn't play. They
lost them when the Warriors shot sixty three point the Lakers.
It's like, you know that that BET's contingent on them. Well,
(32:28):
obviously winning the winning a play in spot, right, and
it's much easier to do it as a seven and
eight seed than it is to do as a nine
or ten seed. And so just immediately lost all value
in that wager. Thank you Lakers for that. Uh not
not really, you know. The n b A to me
is a fantastic playoff product. I don't get into it
(32:49):
very much in the regular season. I have a a
A an NBA wagering strategy for the postseason though, and
last year I think I was sixteen and fourteen maybe
a little bit. I barely was ahead, So maybe it's
not awesome, but I wasn't behind. I like betting first
quarters in the NBA playoffs. Yeah, you get a lot
(33:11):
of especially early early in the postseason, you get a
lot of sort of predictable outcomes in the first quarter.
Like if you have a team that's like favored by eight, nine, ten,
the first quarter numbers like two and a half, three
and a half somewhere around there. And a lot of
these one seeds, man, the first couple of games at home,
they just dominate in the first quarter. They come out
and just bury the eight seed. And then game three
(33:33):
when the eight seed comes back home, their first quarters
great all the time. They always play great in the
first quarter. I just kind of like wager on that
early in the postseason, or I just take first quarters, man,
It's like I just bet on sort of a motion
and how these guys play early in games.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
I don't hate it, man, I don't hate it, you
know me. I'm a maniac with the NBA stuff. I'll
bet regular season NBA there was something ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (33:55):
That happened last night. I'll tell you real fast.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
So I was in on the Sun and Clippers. The
Clippers are resting the Beard, No James Harden, no Kawhi Leonard,
no Paul George. We got all these backups, and so
I'm like, okay, give me the Suns. The Clippers start
off hot. They're up ten to three, so it's basically
even money. Who wins the first half. I'm like, oh gosh,
(34:20):
give me the Suns. Okay, the Sons Jeff are leading
by fifteen points with five minutes left in the half.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
Okay, they're up by fifteen.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
The Clippers, inspired by Bones Highland, the Clippers and the
half on a twenty to four run to win it
by one point. Go to the half up by one.
I don't know which run is more ridiculous, the twenty
to four run with five minutes left or this the
Sons were up by ten with one fifty three left
(34:54):
in the half. They just have to win the half.
They've got a ten point lead. Clippers close on an
eleven and oh, run, I lose the bet.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I tailed you in the Brooklyn bet. That didn't go
very well.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
It didn't work out no, Yeah, the Raptors are resting
all of their guys. The Raptors are freaking brutal. And
it was a coin toss. It was a push in
the first quarter and then we had the Nets team
total over.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
They didn't get there.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
So yeah, thankfully Jokic comes through for me and the Nuggets.
Man like, Jokic is my money maker. My goodness, that
dude comes through for me all the time.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
Do you take us over point to a rebound all
the time?
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, just go points, rebounds, you could go combo. It's crazy,
but it's like forty seven and a half points, rebounds, assists,
You're like forty seven and a half. Yeah, he had
like nineteen at the end of the first quarter. Collectively,
He's just a freaking monster.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
But hey, what I'll do some I like some betting
in the postseason two.
Speaker 4 (35:50):
Yeah, it's it's it's a good time man, all right.
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Like a group of college presidents and some.
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Other very important people that wear suits and ties and
they're they're trying to say, hey, the current model of
college football is dead. So we're looking at this new
super league of about eighty schools. We have eight different
conferences of ten teams apiece. There's some like Europe being
soccer element to it, where one of the conferences it's
(37:05):
just you either get relegated if you suck, you get
promoted if you're really good, so you're at the top
level here.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
It's a fun idea.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
There are so many working parts to make this a reality.
I don't see it happening anytime soon. If ever, what
do you think about the super league here in college football.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
So if you noticed the quotes that came out of
this were from presidents that are not in the SEC
or Big Ten's right for the two power conferences. I
do think at some point we are getting to this system, Brian,
where we have an upper league, a lower league, a
(37:48):
middle league, three leagues, however you want to group them.
It's getting there someday, just not now. The way the
sport has moved with or the two major conferences and
the money that's being generated by those schools, it's going
to turn into the haves and have nots, right, And
(38:11):
we're seeing the ACC schools Florida State, Clemson suing the
a CD because they want to leave. They want to
be part of the two big the big two conferences.
And I understand that because I'm an organ guy. I
was like, man, can we please go to the Big
ten because I want to be part of that conference too, right,
I want to be a part of the big dog conference.
And so we're gonna get there one day, it's just
(38:31):
not now. And and that proposal is d o ay.
If you remember, I'm not a big you know, soccer fan,
but I remember that the talk about that super league
they were going to form with the and remember I
think two owners like had to sell their teams because
the fan revolt was so big. Anytime me here super league,
I'm like, nope, out on that. But nonetheless, I think
(38:54):
we're getting there someday where we're going to have, you know,
a system where a conference or two or maybe one
giant conference pays the players a salary and they're basically
professional athletes, but you know, they play for a college
and we're getting there one day. I just don't think
it's gonna be now.
Speaker 4 (39:15):
Yeah, Well that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
So this organization is called College Sports Tomorrow, right, And
so they had a presentation last week and the Big Ten,
the SEC, the Big twelve, they all canceled their plans
for a sit down.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
And that's what That's what I think.
Speaker 2 (39:31):
If you're holding all the cards, if you're the Big
ten in the SEC, why am I interested in changing
the whole landscape of college football? Where when we're in
the power position, Like why would Greg Sankee the SEC
commissioners say oh yeah, just blow up the SEC.
Speaker 4 (39:48):
I'll go work at Pizza Hut. It's cool, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Like they're not gonna let go of any of that
control willingly, so you're gonna have.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
To pry it from them. That's a whole process.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
You got TV contracts, there's a lot of moving parts,
so it's a fun idea, but to actually implement it, major.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
Hurdles in that thing, a lot of them.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
But we'll see see as we as the years go on,
if we get there at some point in the near future.
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Speaker 4 (40:19):
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