April 18, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Jontay Porter gets banned for life for being a degenerate gambler. Robert Kraft did Bill Belichick dirty, but coach will be able to come out looking good. Plus, lost rings, Caitlin’s shoes and more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, We've got some NBA stuff
to get into. The play in tournament continues, but forget
about all that. We got a degenerate gambler who has
been banned for life from the league. We'll talk about
all of the pitfalls that could come from Johntay Porter's
suspension and banishment from the league and around the world
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of sports. We've got another story in the NFL about
Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft. What went wrong? Albert Breer
is gonna stop by. He's got more intel on the situation.
We've also got Jerry Jones having a major impact in
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portion of them, and now we wait for the games
that are actually going to play. A couple of teams
in that haven't already been played in. If that's confusing,
don't worry. You're probably not alone.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, can you help me out here. I was looking
at the schedule to wait a second. The Pelicans lost,
but they're still playing this week.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, yeah, you know, you get that when you're the
seven to eight matchup.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And they get another game, you get another opportunity. That's
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Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah. So the eighty two.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
Games we had in the regular season enough to figure
this out.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
We've got to play, okay, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So the so the reward for finishing at the bottom
of the conference is a second chance.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's like getting second bottom of the conference. Yeah, you
know what I mean, if you're the first, if you
came in first and you really stink and you shouldn't
deserve to be there. They give you one game, but
if you kind of stink but not all the way
stink like the last two teams, then they give you
a like they give you the chance to win, and
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if you win, then you play the winner of the
stinkiest team, and then whoever wins that game gets into
the playoffs. I mean that's how I interpreted it.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You know, I think it's kind of weird too.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Are you really that desperate to add more playoff quote
unquote playoff games? Like I already feel like there's too many,
and you've got to add more to try and entice
people with this winner winner gets in, loser goes home
set up in scenario. Well, if you want that, why
don't you just do that for the first round of
the playoffs? Anyways, And we've talked about it before, like
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just limit the number of games in the first round.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
If you want to see the best of three series.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I would love that.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
But shocking, what a revelation.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Instead, we gotta we got to confuse everybody with this,
which is probably why Johntay Porter decided to gamble.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
He was really bored with them.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It just didn't want to be anymore. Wow, he said,
you know what the way that's playing. Look, I just
don't even want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
One of my favorite stories that is cover loge in
the world of sports in a long time. John day Porter, Well,
if you didn't like playing in the NBA, that's something
you don't have to worry about. So that's a good
news because he has received a lifetime ban from Adam
Silver and the National Basketball Association for gambling on games
for you know, revealing injury information and kind of sending
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that out to known sports better and somebody who's who's
placing these wagers. You've got one hundred thousand dollars attempted
bets on games that he you know, subbed himself out on.
Like the whole thing just an absolute fiasco. And apparently
the numbers would say based on what he was making
as an NBA player and what his return was on
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just games that he bet on, which is not you know,
not counting the you know, ten percent or five percent
or whatever he was getting his cut for giving out
this information on bets he was involved in just his
gambling alone, but like a net twenty one thousand dollars return.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
What I thought a.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Four hundred plus thousand dollars salary. Yeah, doesn't feel like
financially the most sound move, but at least now he
can gamble as much as he wants and not have
any any repercussions.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
That's one way of putting it. I mean, I think
the other thing is you have to look.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
At the opportunity costs, Like he chose to gamble and
put his career at risk, which he's made over two
million dollars in his basketball career, and instead to make
what twenty one almost twenty two thousand dollars bett.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, man, I don't get it. Man.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Does there come a point in time where we there
has to be an acknowledgment that gambling is no different
than an addiction to drugs or alcohol or anything like that.
Like the way these guys continue to fall short, it's
like a sickness. Yeah, and you can't like it can't
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be taken lightly every single time. Some of these guys
are costing themselves an opportunity to take care of themselves
and not saying there shouldn't be self you know, culpability
and accountability connected to it. But at some point, all
of these, all of these sports leagues are now embracing gambling.
Gambling is a part of them making more and more
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money with their revenue, and it's become a part of
the cold sure of what's taking place. That's like putting
dope or crack in front of a dope head and
a crackhead and saying, we're going to make money off
of this dope and this crack, but don't you don't.
Don't y'all use it. You can't use it, You're not
allowed to use it. I just feel like at some
point there has to be maybe an idea or a
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look of how to engage this and not engage it
from such a definitive. Now, some may deserve it, and
this might be deserving in this moment, but I'm just
saying in general, it might be something that they, like
these pro teams really might need to take a hard
look at. Like if a guy has a problem, a
guy has a problem, obviously, if you're willing to risk
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your whole entire career, I don't know, right, And that's.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Said, it's definitely sad, and I understand what you're saying,
and they probably are viewing it like that. I just
I don't think you can you know this is one guy. Yeah,
it is, it's it's it's as rampant. If it was
as rampant, I think you get more concerned about, you know, well,
now we're going to do something for the entire league.
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And I think there's been times where you've seen like, look,
I was listening to someone talked to their day about,
you know, the the Boston College team that was caught
up in all of this, and it was there was
ties to the mob, and the hard thing they were
saying about it was, you know, even when the people
wanted to stop, they couldn't because they were always gonna
be threatened by the fact that, well, we're just gonna
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out you. So if you want to stop, that's fine,
but we're gonna leak out there that that you're doing this.
And so the players are kind of caught in a
position where they had to keep going.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
At that point, they had they had made their bed,
they had to lay in it.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
And so that's the hard thing about you don't know
who's behind it, who's back in this particular case you're
just talking about, you know, you know, you know one
particular person, but you don't know how much more widespread
it is. My mind wanders when you see stories like
this too. John s Porter is the easy one to
ban for life.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (09:03):
It was Lebron like it was a big name, like
huge person within the league, one of the faces of
the league.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just a full blown degenerate game.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Or Steph Curry or whoever.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
Like I think about that, Like, what are you gonna
say if you catch them by your job?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
More likely?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
But but you guys get what I'm saying, Like, it's
easy to take out a guy and make him an
example of him, where you could have a bigger name
player who could be caught up in something like this.
I mean, again, not to drag Otadi into this, but
that's an example though. That's one of the conspiracy theories
of why everyone's like, okay.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Like, really you had no knowledge of this.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Now we come to find out after all the facts
are there that yeah it was this guy had access
to his accounts and he was fraudulent.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
He was doing this illegally. So yeah, he's he's wiped
clean of it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Hey, but what if in the end it really was
as Otani being a part of it. I mean, not that,
I mean just just to say, for what it's worth,
you're right, what if what if he really what if
he got over all big?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He is about time he became more relatable. You know,
the guy is a superstar, he's got he's got to
relate to the rest of us. So he's a degenerate gambler.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Good for him. I'd buy a jersey.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
But you get my point, whether it's eventually like Baseball NBA,
like you get a problem on your hands. You have
one of the faces of your league who's caught up
with this, and if they're caught up in this, there's
got to be a lot of other people caught up
with it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I mean, if you were going to have an impact
gambling wise on a game that you were involved in,
prop bets are the way to go to where Yeah,
you know, so, what is it the number of rebounds
I have in a game?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It's over two and a half.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All of a sudden, you get really aggressive and you
only play in a couple of minutes, you intentionally miss
a shot, like you can have a direct impact on that,
But most places don't offer a significant amount of money
that you can win on a prop bet. Like so,
like if you it's a when people go, well, you know,
the security guy could see the color of the gatorade,
you know, pre game. So of course he's gonna bet
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on the Super Bowl. Well yeah, but he can probably
only bet like five hundred bucks or whatever it is,
so it's not like it's going to impact him. They're
gonna make all that money elsewhere. I just wonder how
deep does this go? A are players that are getting
more playing time to Brady's point, you know, maybe all
of a sudden they come up with a with a
hamstring issue, like eh, you know, all of a sudden,
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I got a hammy issue. All of a sudden, something
else comes on, like this guy had an eye issue
all like he had he went from going to play
in a game to he's got cataracts all of a
sudden and can no longer be involved in it. And
then you find out all the betting irregularities like DraftKings
sends out this daily report because this is where this
stuff was done. Okay, go back and look at the
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date mentioned in these two dates. One of them I
think is January twenty sixth, the other's March. I forget
there's another date.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Go back and look at that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You can see right at the top Johnte Porter as
the number one prop bet placed through DraftKings that day.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
It's it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Just to see that somebody's got this much of a problem.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Uh, and you know now he's got gonna have to
play anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And also on the subject of if you guys have
ever known anybody who's had addiction issues, like, at a
certain point, you can only do so much, like they've
got to be.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
A cam Yeah, some of them. Some people just can't say.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
There's a legendary story about Norm MacDonald, the comedian, like
one of the great comedians of all time. Apparently he
was a full blown degenerate gambler and lost everything twice
on gambling, like bet his entire everything he had to him, everything,
to his name, to his family's name, and lost it twice.
Man a certain point like, hey, what are you gonna do?
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Shut down casinos everywhere?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Because I really.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Bruno, I mean I've seen it, but I heard it
wasn't true. I'm not sure if it's true. Is it true? See,
I'm not saying it's true or not.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
From folks I know out there, they're like, yeah, he likes.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
To gamble, Bruno. I'm Google searching he had he had
like generate.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Gambling, shocked up a really really big bill at at
a certain hotel off of his gambling.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So I'm looking it up right now, Bruno Mars degenerate
flunky gambler. I'm seeing what comes up here.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Jonah's just like misery loves company. So Jonas is trying
to bring everyone down with him.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's that that could be with Jesus because he's a
generate gambler.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I was going to more point to the this whole
situation where you know, if you're a star of a league,
there's a thought that you would risk it, right, Like
if you're John say Porter, if you're.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
In the league, he would think that you wouldn't risk it.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You would, you would think so.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
But I think the thought for someone who's in the
league that's maybe on the fringe is that you would
do it because you would be getting compensated. In addition,
or even more so for for Johntay Porter. You know,
we only know what he made betting, which is about
twenty two thousand dollars off it, right, Yeah, you don't
know if he was getting a little more than that
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somewhere else, right for what he's providing because.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It doesn't sound, it doesn't seem like, it doesn't sense, It.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Doesn't make any sense if that's the case. So he
had to have been getting much more off the court.
And that's where if you can impact and influence games,
and you can manipulate lines to have you know, a
guaranteed outcome for a better that's worth a lot. So
my point is is someone in his position, he might
be saying, well, I'm not making that much playing. If
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I can do this and no one finds out about it,
then I can make a much better living, hopefully for
my entire career given kind of my role. Right, and
compare that to a star. You're making thirty forty fifty million.
Now one, you're really impacting a game, so you really
have the influence to do things to manipulate the outcome.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
You're already you know, you know.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
People would say, well, it's not worth the risk because
you're already making thirty forty fifty million. Yeah, but to
Levar's point, you might have a problem. You know, maybe
you just like gambling, maybe you like betting. And so
that's where I think, you know, my mind wanders is,
you know, John s Porter can't be the only one,
and you know, he's probably not the highest profile guy.
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But if you're a league and you find this out,
there's no way you can let that go. Public integrity
of your game is everything. All these sponsorships from every
gambling sports book is all based around the idea that
everything's on the up and up. It's all fair. I mean,
I would like to think that every bet you place out.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
There is fair.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Everything's on you know, is as it should be, from
the officials to the players, to the coaching, all of it. Now,
it doesn't explain why Jonas loses so much.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
But come on it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
How about the ed a little appreciation for the fact
that I keep getting up off the stool and going
back for more. Right, Oh, you think you can finish
me in this fight, No chance. I'll be back for more,
and I'll be back this weekend.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Fifteen dollars from us a fight club. You just keep
getting your butt Tyler Dirt, and Tyler Dirt, just.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Keep getting up. Go make some soap at night, and then.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I'll show you. I'm going to put down Dame with
five dollars.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
His name was Tyler Dirt. We're start saying that about Jonas.
His name was Jonas.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Knocks it's just but hey, you know what, with all
the money the gambling brings into these leagues, it's not
going anywhere. It's not like they're just going to turn
off the faucet and say that's it. You know, we
we can't, we can't control the league anymore. It's here,
and they're just going to have to figure out a
way to put all this And I.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Mean, we've figured out how to use it to our advantage,
you need to use it to yours.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well, yeah, this isn't This is an example for every
sports league, by the way, like the NBA is not
only acting on their own behalf, but for the NFL,
for Major League based, for hockey, I mean even in
Major League Baseball. How they handled Atani it is as
I was. I'm still surprised that he wasn't put on
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an exemple list only because it's like, well, if he
was scambling, right, Like, let's just say before the investigation
was done on Atani and they find that the interpreter was.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Indeed doing all this behind his back, but let's.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Just say before they know that definitively know that he's
still playing games, he could he could still be like
to some degree if he was involved in something manipulating
games of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Let it go on.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Now Again, he was vindicated. He did nothing wrong from
what they found, and that's fine. But that's the one
concern I have too, is even how Major League Baseball
handled it.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I think there's cost for criticism. Yes, maybe more of
a process just in case. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I know this is not I know this is not
going to be the right thing to say, but I
do feel like there's a clear difference between a guy
gambling on his own team and a guy betting the
under on himself in games like Johntay Porter. I know
they're all the same. You can't gamble on stuff, but
Johntay Porter betting the under on himself in games and
tipping people off about that when when he can directly
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impact that and call himself out of games, feels a
lot worse than somebody else did.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I see two where he bet for the Raptors to
lose and they won.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think I saw that there was also something where
somebody found there was an under on number of three
points three pointers made in a game, and one of
the shots he took banked in and he looked pissed
that he made it. Guy's a full blown junkie. Welcome
to the club, though, you know. It's good to have
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you here and pull up a stool. There's a slot
machine right over there for you.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
You make light of this, but like his life is
ruined to a three?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
What do you mean he go to Vegas right now?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Ball?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
He wants ruined? Please Vegas at twenty four to seven.
He's got opportunities there. Go go to some of those
poker tournaments Coop goes to.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
He's go be fine. What does Scoop think about this?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Coop? Your thoughts on gambling in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Uh, as you are a guy who plays in the
World Series of Poker and actually wins money every single year.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Well that's not true. Uh, but uh not ban him.
I don't want to see him again.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, what if you found out he was betting on
games but not the under on himself?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Still ban him for life?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, look, because it's the NBA and there's already so
many like I feel like they're the sport that gets
the most.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
This sport is rigged.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Also conversation of Michael Jordan playing baseball for two years.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
There's still people that.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Believe he was you know, he was getting popped for
gambling because he was Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Well because he was. I mean, Michael Jordan was a gambler, boy,
I mean he's a gambler.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
So it was Barkley, bark it was Barkley. So so
it's Oakley.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So it's a lot of them. It's just interesting. Man,
I don't know, I don't I'm with you, got got
fish finish. I was just gonna say, the higher up
the name is, you're going to figure out ways to
I mean, you gotta. You can't just ban Michael Jordan
for life over damble because there was a lot of
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Do you feel like he i mean even connected to
i mean God blessed, even connected to his dad? Listen,
is that why he took that year off?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well that's the speculation.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, there you go, because it is kind of if
you just like, if you're on its surface, you just say,
wait a second, the guy, the greatest player of all
time in his prime walked away for two years to
go play baseball.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
What just paid for it? Yeah, Like it just doesn't
like there's form bus all that just on the surface.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I feel like the facts are at his father's death
or what was kind of more mysterious. It's like, quit
a second, you're not gonna go to catch this guy.
You have nothing on this and this is how it
all went down. Yeah, that was what led me to
be a little suspicious. It's horrible too. Yeah, that sucks.
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after we went off the area yesterday, but Bill Belichick
got Wickershamed Seth Wickersham along with Don Van Natta and
Jeremy Fowler reported on Bill Belichick his interview process with
the Atlanta Falcons, the opinion from people in and around
the NFL on why he didn't get the job and
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what the prospects of getting a job could look like
moving forward, and a lot of it felt like sort
of similar to what we've heard about it. That look,
there was concerns in Atlanta that if he could work
with other people there, did he want full control, did
he want you know, just the number of things that
we've heard throughout the past several weeks, in past several
months as far as why Belichick was passed up for
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the gig in Atlanta. Part that I thought was interesting
is how apparently Robert Kraft might have had a little
bit more to do with this than some people may
have realized. And he pushed back on some of that, saying, oh,
you know, he gave nothing but glowing responses to our
blank about Belichick. But there's some people who feel different.
One of those people is Belichick. Belichick feels that arth
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that Robert Craft had a lot to do with him
not getting the job and maybe not getting opportunities elsewhere,
so much so that Belichick feels like that. If it
doesn't work out for or if it works out for
him elsewhere and Tom leaves him as success and Bill
Belichick has success elsewhere, well then who's the guy you
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blame for why things.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Want towry in New England?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And maybe that's why Robert Craft was hesitant to go
ahead and give his stamp of approval on Belichick going
anywhere else. That along with the fact that you know,
there's some speculation maybe Belichick would be interested in the
Cowboys gig because Jerry Jones and Kraft have a rivalry
and he could stick it to Robert Craft there. The
more you find out about this, the more it feels
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like not a great offseason, not a great look for
Robert Craft, who's been involved in a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
I think this presents the opportunity to for Bill Belichick
to look like the better guy when it's all said
and done.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
You know, he's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
More visible if you think about Bill Belichick and his legacy,
He's gonna be the one that can go on TV
Talkball all day, can go to the University of Washington
where his son's at to go to any other team
of coaches that are like Hey, we want to bring
Bill in. Let's let him consult him. Just come by
and talk to us. Tell us what he sees for
a day or two, right, whether it's paid or not.
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You know, maybe he's got some friends he wants to
go see. But the second he gets on TV, the
second he gets around these teams that people talk to him,
there gona be like, I mean, think about Matt Rule
when he went to Nebraska. He's like, dude, you got
wealth of knowledge. Like you hear all that and you go, oh, okay,
like this is there's a reason why they went to
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nine Super Bowls. There's a reason why they won six
Super Bowls. Yeah, Tom Brady was a piece of it.
So are many of the great players, the Hall of
Fame players they had on that team. And at the end,
you know who people are not going to think about
Robert Craft because Robert Kraft isn't gonna be out there
doing this. He doesn't have the football knowledge that Bill
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Belichick does. And if this truly indeed happened, where he
behind the scenes was actively going out of his way
to tell people that you can't trust him and bad Moutholm.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
That only says more about Robert Craft.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
And by the way, if Arthur Blank, if this is true,
believed Robert Craft, then he got duped because Robert Craft's
intention once Bill Belichick left New England, or once they
had a falling out and he couldn't.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Trust quote unquote trust him anymore.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Robert Kraft was probably concerned about Bill Belichick doing what
Tom Brady did to Bill Belichick because what was the
conversation when Tom Brady left New England. Well, it was
a bratty where it was a Belichick. He goes to
Tampa first year, wins the Super Bowl. There's people out
there like, oh, it's Tom Brady the whole time. Robert
Kraft may think that, but the reality is you can't
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take away what Bill Belichick was able to accomplish. Yes,
having Tom Brady helps and and all, they're the great
players that help. But Bill Belichick, those staffs, that it
was all part of it. You're all part of it.
And the problem is when Bill Belichick and has this
falling out with Robert Kraft, Robert Craft's intention.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Is I don't want that to happen to me.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I mean, imagine Bill Belichick now being the head coach
of the Atlanta Falcons, and Bill Belichick getting Kirk Cousins
and having the roster that they have. If there's any
easier path to get to a super Bowl between the
two conferences, is the NFC South. Go back to last season,
who is the overwhelming favorite to win their division before
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the season started, And now there's more competition, right because
with this Atlanta team, yes, you have talent and you
have Kirk Cousins now, but Sants is still a good team.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
You think the Panthers are going to be better.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
But the point is the NFC in general, the conference
in general, is an easier path outside of Philly. San Francisco.
Maybe would say that a Rams I don't know, Dallas
is a Dallas. I mean outside of it. You don't
have the quarterbacks of the NFC you have to go
through in the playoffs, and you don't have the teams
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either outside of maybe two or three that we definitively
know right now we'll be in contention for right And
sorry to Detroit Lions fans, and I should have mentioned
them too, right, But the truth is, we'll see what
they do this year too, if they can follow it up.
But that's the crazy thing to me, is Arthur Blank
got tricked by Robert Kraft because he was probably so
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concerned about watching Bill Belichick go elsewhere and have success
and win a Super Bull because that makes that makes
him look bad in the end when it's.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
All said done. I don't buy that. I don't think
that Robert Craft would invest that much into Bill Belichick
not having success beyond what he.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Literally created a documentary that he produced and added to
Bad Moth.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I get that's not an opinion, that's just factual. I
just don't get that he wouldn't. I mean, he goes
somewhere else. I think this is more of an indictment
on if if an organization didn't want to hire him
based off of the recommendation of of the franchise that
he left. I don't I don't think that anyone will
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ever forget Robert Craft. That that is a Boston uh,
a New England Patriots fan. That's that's no. That would
be like saying you're going to forget about Art Rooney
in Pittsburgh people, one of the things that is anonymous
with the steel him. I'm not saying that I'm not
going to pay you make your point? Can I make
my point? I let you go I mean, I didn't
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jump in on you like you're jumping in.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Well, you're also saying inaccurate things. Well, I didn't say
that he was gonna be forgotten. I'm saying when you
think about, like who you give credit to in all
of it, it's the entirety of it all, but in
the end you think about the quarterback and the head coach,
that's who you think about.
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a that's a factual deal. So good you got jonas well.
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All right, thank you, Jonas.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
So we start in the NBA. We had a pair
of playing games in the East. The seven eight matchups.
The seventy six Ers hold off the Heat for a
one oh five to one oh four win. Philadelphia was
down twelve and a half. They are able to come
back thanks and part star Joelan beats twenty three points
and fifteen rebounds from Miami. There start Jimmy Boler at
nineteen points, suffered kne injury in the first half. He
continued to play, but was affected by the injury the
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rest of the game, and his status going forward is unknown. Philadelphia,
with the win, earns the seventh seed in the East.
They'll face the number two seed, the New York Knicks
in the first round of the playoffs. The nine to
ten matchup had the Bulls rolling over the Hawks one
thirty one under one sixteen. Chicago's Kobe White had a
crew h forty two points in the wind, Atlanta is eliminated.
Chicago will now face Miami. Winner gets the eighth seed
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in the East and will face the number one seed,
the Boston Celtics in the first round. News from the
NBA publicans start Zion Wimson will miss the team's playing
game on Friday against Sacramento due to a hamstring injury.
If New Orleans wins and advances, he will miss the
start of the next year's against Oklahoma City as well.
They're saying he'll be re evaluated in two weeks. Now,
back to LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox and the
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Speaker 1 (32:30):
You, and he just had a curiosity. When did bullpen
games become a thing? Last four or five years?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah, not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I started doing this, Like literally, if a pitcher goes
five innings, now it's like way man, hell of a job.
And back then it was like Doug Drebeck, you said
him out there, he'll give be thirteen, not messing around.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Now you get a complete game.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Now it's like huge, Yeah, unbelieved, Like I wonder how
many complete games were there last year in the entire season.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
When did they start using Azelian blowouts for Baseball's games?
Will throwing like outfielders in fielders to finish out the game.
They won't even used the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
No, yeah, you get out there.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
We don't care about your r obviously, Like Nick Swisher
is a great dude. It works at Fox.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
But there's like a clip that came up where like
he finished out the end of an inning and I
was like, I can only imagine them asking like, hey,
we got to kind of fit in the bullpen today.
You want to go in and throw.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
A few throw that'd be fun.
Speaker 11 (33:24):
Actually, there's a big old chunky guy on the Pirates now,
Rowdy Telez.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
I love Rowdy to first baseman.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
Yeah, he threw a scoreless ending in one of those
games last season and they were asking him if we
ever want to pitch again. He's like, hell, no, I'm
not gonna. I don't want to ruin my perfect Yeah, like, no,
I would never want to do that again.
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Speaker 5 (35:28):
In case you missed this, Take Take four.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
In the newest New Heights podcast We All Know The
New Heights podcast with the Kelsey Brothers, Jason Kelsey was talking.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
About the they had held what is called.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
The Great Lumbaby Games at their alma mater of Cincinnati,
where teams of students faced off in a series of
bizarre challenges, one of those digging through inflatable pools of
skyline chili. Now, he also talked about what unfortunately happened
during that game, which was they were all searching for
his Super Bowl ring. Well, take a listen to what
happens next.
Speaker 12 (36:00):
I legitimately lost my super Bowl ring in this event,
they could not find it. We have still yet to
find it. All of this stuff has been thrown away.
So I think we can safely assume that my super
Bowl ring is now in a landfill someplace in the
Cincinnati Tri state area.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
I didn't think that would happen.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
We've already put the insurance claim in which I think
the insurance company might have some things to say about whether.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
There's wouldn't you have noticed like a big ring just
gone off his hand after swimming through some by the way,
awful Chili voluntarily tied it to all so like a
doubledare yes and oh Jim smooth, Yeah that's a bad
idea smart move.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Yeah, the insurance company is going to be like, oh yeah, good,
that's on you, buddy.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
All right.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
So question for you guys if they replaced the ring,
like it looks just like the one that you got
for winning it, is it still the same to you
or in your head? Are you thinking that was the
one I was presented? Like this is where this is?
You know this is not the real thing.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I mean, so, LaVar, you got a big fat Hall
of Fame ring. If you lost it in.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
A it's not the original, but it's a replacement. I mean,
you can, you can acknowledge it as I mean, it's
still your, your Holly.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Accomplishment is the accomplishment, but it's not the original. It's
not the original.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
God, if I lost my thumb ring I jump off
a freeway overpass.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Would you think it'd be worse if you lost at
LeVar in that way like a big bath of chili.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I wouldn't do that with my ring?
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Did you have Do you have a second one just
in case you lost the first one?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No? I don't. In fact, I thought I lost it
the other day some way, somehow, I think something one
of my kids they put it, put it back in
the jewelry box. I left it on in the place
I usually put my jewelry when I'm sitting down, and yeah,
I stay calm, But on the inside, I felt.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
A certain type of way what you feel.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I'm I mean, I felt emotions. I felt emotions. I
didn't want to feel. Oh man, it's not like I've
gotten that many wins in my life, you know what
I mean? So I take the winds I can get
and want to hold on to them and not let
them go. You know, so there is.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
That you guys. Ever lost your wedding ring?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I don't know where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I've lost two down a sink.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
It's somewhere, but you know, kind of sinks to you have.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I just it was like one of those like on Amazon,
they had this deal like a pack of six like
silicone rings for like seven dollars or seven eighty nine
or something like that, and so they're not made all
that great, but you got like different colors. So like,
you know, if I'm rolling with magenta, I've got a
magenta ring. You know, I can just kind of mix
and match a little bit. You know, I'm all about
different colors and variation.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
You're not. You only were black when I see them.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, whatever, So, but the point is a lot of
darker colors included. And I lost two of them down
this sink because I was washing my hands and the
soap just you know, a little wear and tear, and
the way they went, my wife was like, oh God,
what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I was like, what do you mean go to Amazon about? Yeah,
they're seven dollars. What else we got?
Speaker 8 (39:09):
Well, guys, in case you miss this, Kaitlyn Clark is
finalizing an eight figure endorsement deal with the Swoosh. She's
gonna get her own signature shoe with Nike, an.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Eight figure deal. There you go for all the folks
who thought she wasn't gonna make as much in the pros.
I never really understood that because all are like nil.
Money was not just donor based or alumni. There was,
I mean a ton of different you know, partner she
had in the corporate world.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
So good for her. I hope, I hope. By by
the way, I hope there's a lot more that's spread
around though.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Are you guys gonna buy your daughters some Kaitlyn Clarks
if they look good?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I mean, I just if they want them.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
I was just like, I don't know if like daughter
walks by and likes to shoe, sure, what else?
Speaker 8 (39:54):
Okay, guys, In case you missed this, a thirty nine
year old Augusta National employees being charged with stealing over
is stealing millions of dollars worth of Master's merch and
legally moving it across state lines.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
We've talked about it before.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
Master sells about seventy million dollars worth of merch each
year at the location because you can't buy it online,
so you did it to sell it on the secondary market.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
You could only buy it there.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
And by the way, I saw someone who had marked
up a shirt to like seven hundred dollars. Now you
could buy in the shop or something for like one
hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I mean it is a classic logo though.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Just the year, the one logo like you literally can't
even replicate the one that just came out with like
their Augusta National Club on it.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Damn love the Masters
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to get into. The play in tournament continues, but forget
about all that. We got a degenerate gambler who has
been banned for life from the league. We'll talk about
all of the pitfalls that could come from Johntay Porter's
suspension and banishment from the league and around the world
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Bill Belichick and Robert Kraft. What went wrong? Albert Breer
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We've also got Jerry Jones having a major impact in
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that are actually going to play. A couple of teams
in that haven't already been played in. If that's confusing,
don't worry. You're probably not alone.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Yeah, can you help me out here. I was looking
at the schedule to wait a second. The Pelicans lost,
but they're still playing this week.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Well, yeah, you know, you get that when you're the
seven to eight matchup.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And they get another game, you get another opportunity. That's
what makes it to play in tournament.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Yeah. So the eighty two.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
Games we had in the regular season enough to figure
this out.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
We've got to play, okay, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
So the so the reward for finishing at the bottom
of the conference is a second chance.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's like getting second bottom of the conference. Yeah, you
know what I mean, if you're the first, if you
came in first and you really stink and you shouldn't
deserve to be there. They give you one game, but
if you kind of stink but not all the way
stink like the last two teams, then they give you
a like they give you the chance to win, and
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if you win, then you play the winner of the
stinkiest team, and then whoever wins that game gets into
the playoffs. I mean that's how I interpreted it.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
You know, I think it's kind of weird too.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Are you really that desperate to add more playoff quote
unquote playoff games? Like I already feel like there's too many,
and you've got to add more to try and entice
people with this winner winner gets in, loser goes home
set up in scenario. Well, if you want that, why
don't you just do that for the first round of
the playoffs? Anyways, And we've talked about it before, like
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just limit the number of games in the first round.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
If you want to see the best of three series.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I would love that.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
But shocking, what a revelation.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Instead, we gotta we got to confuse everybody with this,
which is probably why Johntay Porter decided to gamble.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
He was really bored with them.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
It just didn't want to be anymore. Wow, he said,
you know what the way that's playing. Look, I just
don't even want to do this anymore.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
One of my favorite stories that is cover loge in
the world of sports in a long time. John day Porter, Well,
if you didn't like playing in the NBA, that's something
you don't have to worry about. So that's a good
news because he has received a lifetime ban from Adam
Silver and the National Basketball Association for gambling on games
for you know, revealing injury information and kind of sending
(05:00):
that out to known sports better and somebody who's who's
placing these wagers. You've got one hundred thousand dollars attempted
bets on games that he you know, subbed himself out on.
Like the whole thing just an absolute fiasco. And apparently
the numbers would say based on what he was making
as an NBA player and what his return was on
(05:23):
just games that he bet on, which is not you know,
not counting the you know, ten percent or five percent
or whatever he was getting his cut for giving out
this information on bets he was involved in just his
gambling alone, but like a net twenty one thousand dollars return.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yes, that's correct.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
What I thought a.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Four hundred plus thousand dollars salary. Yeah, doesn't feel like
financially the most sound move, but at least now he
can gamble as much as he wants and not have
any any repercussions.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
That's one way of putting it. I mean, I think
the other thing is you have to look.
Speaker 7 (05:54):
At the opportunity costs, Like he chose to gamble and
put his career at risk, which he's made over two
million dollars in his basketball career, and instead to make
what twenty one almost twenty two thousand dollars bett.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
Yeah, man, I don't get it. Man.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Does there come a point in time where we there
has to be an acknowledgment that gambling is no different
than an addiction to drugs or alcohol or anything like that.
Like the way these guys continue to fall short, it's
like a sickness. Yeah, and you can't like it can't
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be taken lightly every single time. Some of these guys
are costing themselves an opportunity to take care of themselves
and not saying there shouldn't be self you know, culpability
and accountability connected to it. But at some point, all
of these, all of these sports leagues are now embracing gambling.
Gambling is a part of them making more and more
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money with their revenue, and it's become a part of
the cold sure of what's taking place. That's like putting
dope or crack in front of a dope head and
a crackhead and saying, we're going to make money off
of this dope and this crack, but don't you don't.
Don't y'all use it. You can't use it, You're not
allowed to use it. I just feel like at some
point there has to be maybe an idea or a
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look of how to engage this and not engage it
from such a definitive. Now, some may deserve it, and
this might be deserving in this moment, but I'm just
saying in general, it might be something that they, like
these pro teams really might need to take a hard
look at. Like if a guy has a problem, a
guy has a problem, obviously, if you're willing to risk
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your whole entire career, I don't know, right, And that's.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
Said, it's definitely sad, and I understand what you're saying,
and they probably are viewing it like that. I just
I don't think you can you know this is one guy. Yeah,
it is, it's it's it's as rampant. If it was
as rampant, I think you get more concerned about, you know, well,
now we're going to do something for the entire league.
(08:07):
And I think there's been times where you've seen like, look,
I was listening to someone talked to their day about,
you know, the the Boston College team that was caught
up in all of this, and it was there was
ties to the mob, and the hard thing they were
saying about it was, you know, even when the people
wanted to stop, they couldn't because they were always gonna
be threatened by the fact that, well, we're just gonna
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out you. So if you want to stop, that's fine,
but we're gonna leak out there that that you're doing this.
And so the players are kind of caught in a
position where they had to keep going.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
At that point, they had they had made their bed,
they had to lay in it.
Speaker 7 (08:43):
And so that's the hard thing about you don't know
who's behind it, who's back in this particular case you're
just talking about, you know, you know, you know one
particular person, but you don't know how much more widespread
it is. My mind wanders when you see stories like
this too. John s Porter is the easy one to
ban for life.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
What was it?
Speaker 7 (09:03):
It was Lebron like it was a big name, like
huge person within the league, one of the faces of
the league.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just a full blown degenerate game.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
Or Steph Curry or whoever.
Speaker 7 (09:14):
Like I think about that, Like, what are you gonna
say if you catch them by your job?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
More likely?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
But but you guys get what I'm saying, Like, it's
easy to take out a guy and make him an
example of him, where you could have a bigger name
player who could be caught up in something like this.
I mean, again, not to drag Otadi into this, but
that's an example though. That's one of the conspiracy theories
of why everyone's like, okay.
Speaker 6 (09:44):
Like, really you had no knowledge of this.
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Now we come to find out after all the facts
are there that yeah it was this guy had access
to his accounts and he was fraudulent.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
He was doing this illegally. So yeah, he's he's wiped
clean of it.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Hey, but what if in the end it really was
as Otani being a part of it. I mean, not that,
I mean just just to say, for what it's worth,
you're right, what if what if he really what if
he got over all big?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
He is about time he became more relatable. You know,
the guy is a superstar, he's got he's got to
relate to the rest of us. So he's a degenerate gambler.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Good for him. I'd buy a jersey.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
But you get my point, whether it's eventually like Baseball NBA,
like you get a problem on your hands. You have
one of the faces of your league who's caught up
with this, and if they're caught up in this, there's
got to be a lot of other people caught up
with it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I mean, if you were going to have an impact
gambling wise on a game that you were involved in,
prop bets are the way to go to where Yeah,
you know, so, what is it the number of rebounds
I have in a game?
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It's over two and a half.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
All of a sudden, you get really aggressive and you
only play in a couple of minutes, you intentionally miss
a shot, like you can have a direct impact on that,
But most places don't offer a significant amount of money
that you can win on a prop bet. Like so,
like if you it's a when people go, well, you know,
the security guy could see the color of the gatorade,
you know, pre game. So of course he's gonna bet
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on the Super Bowl. Well yeah, but he can probably
only bet like five hundred bucks or whatever it is,
so it's not like it's going to impact him. They're
gonna make all that money elsewhere. I just wonder how
deep does this go? A are players that are getting
more playing time to Brady's point, you know, maybe all
of a sudden they come up with a with a
hamstring issue, like eh, you know, all of a sudden,
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I got a hammy issue. All of a sudden, something
else comes on, like this guy had an eye issue
all like he had he went from going to play
in a game to he's got cataracts all of a
sudden and can no longer be involved in it. And
then you find out all the betting irregularities like DraftKings
sends out this daily report because this is where this
stuff was done. Okay, go back and look at the
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date mentioned in these two dates. One of them I
think is January twenty sixth, the other's March. I forget
there's another date.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Go back and look at that.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
You can see right at the top Johnte Porter as
the number one prop bet placed through DraftKings that day.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
It's it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Just to see that somebody's got this much of a problem.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Uh, and you know now he's got gonna have to
play anymore.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
And also on the subject of if you guys have
ever known anybody who's had addiction issues, like, at a
certain point, you can only do so much, like they've
got to be.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
A cam Yeah, some of them. Some people just can't say.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
There's a legendary story about Norm MacDonald, the comedian, like
one of the great comedians of all time. Apparently he
was a full blown degenerate gambler and lost everything twice
on gambling, like bet his entire everything he had to him, everything,
to his name, to his family's name, and lost it twice.
Man a certain point like, hey, what are you gonna do?
(12:50):
Shut down casinos everywhere?
Speaker 6 (12:51):
Because I really.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
Bruno, I mean I've seen it, but I heard it
wasn't true. I'm not sure if it's true. Is it true? See,
I'm not saying it's true or not.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
From folks I know out there, they're like, yeah, he likes.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
To gamble, Bruno. I'm Google searching he had he had
like generate.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Gambling, shocked up a really really big bill at at
a certain hotel off of his gambling.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
So I'm looking it up right now, Bruno Mars degenerate
flunky gambler. I'm seeing what comes up here.
Speaker 6 (13:27):
You know.
Speaker 7 (13:28):
Jonah's just like misery loves company. So Jonas is trying
to bring everyone down with him.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's that that could be with Jesus because he's a
generate gambler.
Speaker 7 (13:37):
I was going to more point to the this whole
situation where you know, if you're a star of a league,
there's a thought that you would risk it, right, Like
if you're John say Porter, if you're.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
In the league, he would think that you wouldn't risk it.
Speaker 6 (13:51):
You would, you would think so.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
But I think the thought for someone who's in the
league that's maybe on the fringe is that you would
do it because you would be getting compensated. In addition,
or even more so for for Johntay Porter. You know,
we only know what he made betting, which is about
twenty two thousand dollars off it, right, Yeah, you don't
know if he was getting a little more than that
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somewhere else, right for what he's providing because.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It doesn't sound, it doesn't seem like, it doesn't sense, It.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Doesn't make any sense if that's the case. So he
had to have been getting much more off the court.
And that's where if you can impact and influence games,
and you can manipulate lines to have you know, a
guaranteed outcome for a better that's worth a lot. So
my point is is someone in his position, he might
be saying, well, I'm not making that much playing. If
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I can do this and no one finds out about it,
then I can make a much better living, hopefully for
my entire career given kind of my role. Right, and
compare that to a star. You're making thirty forty fifty million.
Now one, you're really impacting a game, so you really
have the influence to do things to manipulate the outcome.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
You're already you know, you know.
Speaker 7 (15:06):
People would say, well, it's not worth the risk because
you're already making thirty forty fifty million. Yeah, but to
Levar's point, you might have a problem. You know, maybe
you just like gambling, maybe you like betting. And so
that's where I think, you know, my mind wanders is,
you know, John s Porter can't be the only one,
and you know, he's probably not the highest profile guy.
(15:27):
But if you're a league and you find this out,
there's no way you can let that go. Public integrity
of your game is everything. All these sponsorships from every
gambling sports book is all based around the idea that
everything's on the up and up. It's all fair. I mean,
I would like to think that every bet you place out.
Speaker 6 (15:46):
There is fair.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
Everything's on you know, is as it should be, from
the officials to the players, to the coaching, all of it. Now,
it doesn't explain why Jonas loses so much.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
But come on it.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
How about the ed a little appreciation for the fact
that I keep getting up off the stool and going
back for more. Right, Oh, you think you can finish
me in this fight, No chance. I'll be back for more,
and I'll be back this weekend.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Fifteen dollars from us a fight club. You just keep
getting your butt Tyler Dirt, and Tyler Dirt, just.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
Keep getting up. Go make some soap at night, and then.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
I'll show you. I'm going to put down Dame with
five dollars.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
His name was Tyler Dirt. We're start saying that about Jonas.
His name was Jonas.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Knocks it's just but hey, you know what, with all
the money the gambling brings into these leagues, it's not
going anywhere. It's not like they're just going to turn
off the faucet and say that's it. You know, we
we can't, we can't control the league anymore. It's here,
and they're just going to have to figure out a
way to put all this And I.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Mean, we've figured out how to use it to our advantage,
you need to use it to yours.
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Well, yeah, this isn't This is an example for every
sports league, by the way, like the NBA is not
only acting on their own behalf, but for the NFL,
for Major League based, for hockey, I mean even in
Major League Baseball. How they handled Atani it is as
I was. I'm still surprised that he wasn't put on
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an exemple list only because it's like, well, if he
was scambling, right, Like, let's just say before the investigation
was done on Atani and they find that the interpreter was.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Indeed doing all this behind his back, but let's.
Speaker 7 (17:23):
Just say before they know that definitively know that he's
still playing games, he could he could still be like
to some degree if he was involved in something manipulating
games of Major League Baseball.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Let it go on.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
Now Again, he was vindicated. He did nothing wrong from
what they found, and that's fine. But that's the one
concern I have too, is even how Major League Baseball
handled it.
Speaker 4 (17:49):
I think there's cost for criticism. Yes, maybe more of
a process just in case. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
I know this is not I know this is not
going to be the right thing to say, but I
do feel like there's a clear difference between a guy
gambling on his own team and a guy betting the
under on himself in games like Johntay Porter. I know
they're all the same. You can't gamble on stuff, but
Johntay Porter betting the under on himself in games and
tipping people off about that when when he can directly
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impact that and call himself out of games, feels a
lot worse than somebody else did.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
I see two where he bet for the Raptors to
lose and they won.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
I think I saw that there was also something where
somebody found there was an under on number of three
points three pointers made in a game, and one of
the shots he took banked in and he looked pissed
that he made it. Guy's a full blown junkie. Welcome
to the club, though, you know. It's good to have
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you here and pull up a stool. There's a slot
machine right over there for you.
Speaker 6 (18:53):
You make light of this, but like his life is
ruined to a three?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
What do you mean he go to Vegas right now?
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Ball?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
He wants ruined? Please Vegas at twenty four to seven.
He's got opportunities there. Go go to some of those
poker tournaments Coop goes to.
Speaker 6 (19:08):
He's go be fine. What does Scoop think about this?
Speaker 5 (19:13):
Coop? Your thoughts on gambling in the NBA?
Speaker 1 (19:16):
Uh, as you are a guy who plays in the
World Series of Poker and actually wins money every single year.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Well that's not true. Uh, but uh not ban him.
I don't want to see him again.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, what if you found out he was betting on
games but not the under on himself?
Speaker 5 (19:32):
Still ban him for life?
Speaker 8 (19:35):
Well, look, because it's the NBA and there's already so
many like I feel like they're the sport that gets
the most.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
This sport is rigged.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Also conversation of Michael Jordan playing baseball for two years.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
There's still people that.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Believe he was you know, he was getting popped for
gambling because he was Yeah, okay.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Well because he was. I mean, Michael Jordan was a gambler, boy,
I mean he's a gambler.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
So it was Barkley, bark it was Barkley. So so
it's Oakley.
Speaker 6 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
So it's a lot of them. It's just interesting. Man,
I don't know, I don't I'm with you, got got
fish finish. I was just gonna say, the higher up
the name is, you're going to figure out ways to
I mean, you gotta. You can't just ban Michael Jordan
for life over damble because there was a lot of
(20:24):
Do you feel like he i mean even connected to
i mean God blessed, even connected to his dad? Listen,
is that why he took that year off?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
Well that's the speculation.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, there you go, because it is kind of if
you just like, if you're on its surface, you just say,
wait a second, the guy, the greatest player of all
time in his prime walked away for two years to
go play baseball.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
What just paid for it? Yeah, Like it just doesn't
like there's form bus all that just on the surface.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
I feel like the facts are at his father's death
or what was kind of more mysterious. It's like, quit
a second, you're not gonna go to catch this guy.
You have nothing on this and this is how it
all went down. Yeah, that was what led me to
be a little suspicious. It's horrible too. Yeah, that sucks.
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a future Hall of Famer in the NFL. We'll explain
what that is coming up here again a little over
fifteen minutes from now. So yesterday, this came out shortly
(23:00):
after we went off the area yesterday, but Bill Belichick
got Wickershamed Seth Wickersham along with Don Van Natta and
Jeremy Fowler reported on Bill Belichick his interview process with
the Atlanta Falcons, the opinion from people in and around
the NFL on why he didn't get the job and
(23:23):
what the prospects of getting a job could look like
moving forward, and a lot of it felt like sort
of similar to what we've heard about it. That look,
there was concerns in Atlanta that if he could work
with other people there, did he want full control, did
he want you know, just the number of things that
we've heard throughout the past several weeks, in past several
months as far as why Belichick was passed up for
(23:44):
the gig in Atlanta. Part that I thought was interesting
is how apparently Robert Kraft might have had a little
bit more to do with this than some people may
have realized. And he pushed back on some of that, saying, oh,
you know, he gave nothing but glowing responses to our
blank about Belichick. But there's some people who feel different.
One of those people is Belichick. Belichick feels that arth
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that Robert Craft had a lot to do with him
not getting the job and maybe not getting opportunities elsewhere,
so much so that Belichick feels like that. If it
doesn't work out for or if it works out for
him elsewhere and Tom leaves him as success and Bill
Belichick has success elsewhere, well then who's the guy you
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blame for why things.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Want towry in New England?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
And maybe that's why Robert Craft was hesitant to go
ahead and give his stamp of approval on Belichick going
anywhere else. That along with the fact that you know,
there's some speculation maybe Belichick would be interested in the
Cowboys gig because Jerry Jones and Kraft have a rivalry
and he could stick it to Robert Craft there. The
more you find out about this, the more it feels
(24:53):
like not a great offseason, not a great look for
Robert Craft, who's been involved in a lot of this stuff.
Speaker 7 (24:59):
I think this presents the opportunity to for Bill Belichick
to look like the better guy when it's all said
and done.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
You know, he's gonna be.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
More visible if you think about Bill Belichick and his legacy,
He's gonna be the one that can go on TV
Talkball all day, can go to the University of Washington
where his son's at to go to any other team
of coaches that are like Hey, we want to bring
Bill in. Let's let him consult him. Just come by
and talk to us. Tell us what he sees for
a day or two, right, whether it's paid or not.
(25:29):
You know, maybe he's got some friends he wants to
go see. But the second he gets on TV, the
second he gets around these teams that people talk to him,
there gona be like, I mean, think about Matt Rule
when he went to Nebraska. He's like, dude, you got
wealth of knowledge. Like you hear all that and you go, oh, okay,
like this is there's a reason why they went to
(25:50):
nine Super Bowls. There's a reason why they won six
Super Bowls. Yeah, Tom Brady was a piece of it.
So are many of the great players, the Hall of
Fame players they had on that team. And at the end,
you know who people are not going to think about
Robert Craft because Robert Kraft isn't gonna be out there
doing this. He doesn't have the football knowledge that Bill
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Belichick does. And if this truly indeed happened, where he
behind the scenes was actively going out of his way
to tell people that you can't trust him and bad Moutholm.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
That only says more about Robert Craft.
Speaker 7 (26:26):
And by the way, if Arthur Blank, if this is true,
believed Robert Craft, then he got duped because Robert Craft's
intention once Bill Belichick left New England, or once they
had a falling out and he couldn't.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Trust quote unquote trust him anymore.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Robert Kraft was probably concerned about Bill Belichick doing what
Tom Brady did to Bill Belichick because what was the
conversation when Tom Brady left New England. Well, it was
a bratty where it was a Belichick. He goes to
Tampa first year, wins the Super Bowl. There's people out
there like, oh, it's Tom Brady the whole time. Robert
Kraft may think that, but the reality is you can't
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take away what Bill Belichick was able to accomplish. Yes,
having Tom Brady helps and and all, they're the great
players that help. But Bill Belichick, those staffs, that it
was all part of it. You're all part of it.
And the problem is when Bill Belichick and has this
falling out with Robert Kraft, Robert Craft's intention.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
Is I don't want that to happen to me.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I mean, imagine Bill Belichick now being the head coach
of the Atlanta Falcons, and Bill Belichick getting Kirk Cousins
and having the roster that they have. If there's any
easier path to get to a super Bowl between the
two conferences, is the NFC South. Go back to last season,
who is the overwhelming favorite to win their division before
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the season started, And now there's more competition, right because
with this Atlanta team, yes, you have talent and you
have Kirk Cousins now, but Sants is still a good team.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
You think the Panthers are going to be better.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
But the point is the NFC in general, the conference
in general, is an easier path outside of Philly. San Francisco.
Maybe would say that a Rams I don't know, Dallas
is a Dallas. I mean outside of it. You don't
have the quarterbacks of the NFC you have to go
through in the playoffs, and you don't have the teams
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either outside of maybe two or three that we definitively
know right now we'll be in contention for right And
sorry to Detroit Lions fans, and I should have mentioned
them too, right, But the truth is, we'll see what
they do this year too, if they can follow it up.
But that's the crazy thing to me, is Arthur Blank
got tricked by Robert Kraft because he was probably so
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concerned about watching Bill Belichick go elsewhere and have success
and win a Super Bull because that makes that makes
him look bad in the end when it's.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
All said done. I don't buy that. I don't think
that Robert Craft would invest that much into Bill Belichick
not having success beyond what he.
Speaker 7 (29:19):
Literally created a documentary that he produced and added to
Bad Moth.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
I get that's not an opinion, that's just factual. I
just don't get that he wouldn't. I mean, he goes
somewhere else. I think this is more of an indictment
on if if an organization didn't want to hire him
based off of the recommendation of of the franchise that
he left. I don't I don't think that anyone will
(29:47):
ever forget Robert Craft. That that is a Boston uh,
a New England Patriots fan. That's that's no. That would
be like saying you're going to forget about Art Rooney
in Pittsburgh people, one of the things that is anonymous
with the steel him. I'm not saying that I'm not
going to pay you make your point? Can I make
my point? I let you go I mean, I didn't
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jump in on you like you're jumping in.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Well, you're also saying inaccurate things. Well, I didn't say
that he was gonna be forgotten. I'm saying when you
think about, like who you give credit to in all
of it, it's the entirety of it all, but in
the end you think about the quarterback and the head coach,
that's who you think about.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
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Yep, that's right.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
Uh, so we are going to have another edition of
in case you missed to come it up here shortly
for all the latest though from around the world of sports. Listen,
this guy could be the owner, the coach, the quarterback.
He gets all the credit. He's Edmund Garcia.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
All right, thank you, Jonas.
Speaker 11 (31:27):
So we start in the NBA. We had a pair
of playing games in the East. The seven eight matchups.
The seventy six Ers hold off the Heat for a
one oh five to one oh four win. Philadelphia was
down twelve and a half. They are able to come
back thanks and part star Joelan beats twenty three points
and fifteen rebounds from Miami. There start Jimmy Boler at
nineteen points, suffered kne injury in the first half. He
continued to play, but was affected by the injury the
(31:47):
rest of the game, and his status going forward is unknown. Philadelphia,
with the win, earns the seventh seed in the East.
They'll face the number two seed, the New York Knicks
in the first round of the playoffs. The nine to
ten matchup had the Bulls rolling over the Hawks one
thirty one under one sixteen. Chicago's Kobe White had a
crew h forty two points in the wind, Atlanta is eliminated.
Chicago will now face Miami. Winner gets the eighth seed
(32:08):
in the East and will face the number one seed,
the Boston Celtics in the first round. News from the
NBA publicans start Zion Wimson will miss the team's playing
game on Friday against Sacramento due to a hamstring injury.
If New Orleans wins and advances, he will miss the
start of the next year's against Oklahoma City as well.
They're saying he'll be re evaluated in two weeks. Now,
back to LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox and the
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tirerack dot Com, Fox Sports Radios to.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
You, and he just had a curiosity. When did bullpen
games become a thing? Last four or five years?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Yeah, not that long ago.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I started doing this, Like literally, if a pitcher goes
five innings, now it's like way man, hell of a job.
And back then it was like Doug Drebeck, you said
him out there, he'll give be thirteen, not messing around.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
Now you get a complete game.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Now it's like huge, Yeah, unbelieved, Like I wonder how
many complete games were there last year in the entire season.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
When did they start using Azelian blowouts for Baseball's games?
Will throwing like outfielders in fielders to finish out the game.
They won't even used the bullpen.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
No, yeah, you get out there.
Speaker 6 (33:06):
We don't care about your r obviously, Like Nick Swisher
is a great dude. It works at Fox.
Speaker 7 (33:12):
But there's like a clip that came up where like
he finished out the end of an inning and I
was like, I can only imagine them asking like, hey,
we got to kind of fit in the bullpen today.
You want to go in and throw.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
A few throw that'd be fun.
Speaker 11 (33:24):
Actually, there's a big old chunky guy on the Pirates now,
Rowdy Telez.
Speaker 5 (33:28):
I love Rowdy to first baseman.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
Yeah, he threw a scoreless ending in one of those
games last season and they were asking him if we
ever want to pitch again. He's like, hell, no, I'm
not gonna. I don't want to ruin my perfect Yeah, like, no,
I would never want to do that again.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, perfect, bra He's good. I love Rowdy Telez, great
name too. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox
Sports Radio coming up next year though. From the tire
rack dot Com studios, we've got a very costly move
by a future Hall of Famer in the NFL, and
it's messy, It's yours.
Speaker 9 (33:57):
Next year on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Arrington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern
three am Pacific, Two.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming up top
of next hour a little over ten minutes from now
from the tirerac dot Com studios.
Speaker 5 (34:19):
We do have an update. We kind of threw.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Out a scenario the potential of something happening, and apparently
that is not the case. We have got it from
the source, possibly themselves. We will get into the details
on that for you coming up here a little over
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Speaker 9 (34:56):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entered.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
Good thing. The guys are here to bring you in
case you missed.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
It, and for that we turned it over to our
executive producer Lee.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Lap Good.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
More than everybody.
Speaker 8 (35:14):
Good morning Jones, Good morning Brady, Good morning, Love Bar guys,
and Casey missed this the la That's right, That's right, guys.
In case you missed it, Hey Brady Morton, Morning Brady,
our guys.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
In case you missed this, Take Take four.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
In the newest New Heights podcast We All Know The
New Heights podcast with the Kelsey Brothers, Jason Kelsey was talking.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
About the they had held what is called.
Speaker 8 (35:40):
The Great Lumbaby Games at their alma mater of Cincinnati,
where teams of students faced off in a series of
bizarre challenges, one of those digging through inflatable pools of
skyline chili. Now, he also talked about what unfortunately happened
during that game, which was they were all searching for
his Super Bowl ring. Well, take a listen to what
happens next.
Speaker 12 (36:00):
I legitimately lost my super Bowl ring in this event,
they could not find it. We have still yet to
find it. All of this stuff has been thrown away.
So I think we can safely assume that my super
Bowl ring is now in a landfill someplace in the
Cincinnati Tri state area.
Speaker 11 (36:14):
I didn't think that would happen.
Speaker 12 (36:15):
We've already put the insurance claim in which I think
the insurance company might have some things to say about whether.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
There's wouldn't you have noticed like a big ring just
gone off his hand after swimming through some by the way,
awful Chili voluntarily tied it to all so like a
doubledare yes and oh Jim smooth, Yeah that's a bad
idea smart move.
Speaker 8 (36:41):
Yeah, the insurance company is going to be like, oh yeah, good,
that's on you, buddy.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
All right.
Speaker 7 (36:45):
So question for you guys if they replaced the ring,
like it looks just like the one that you got
for winning it, is it still the same to you
or in your head? Are you thinking that was the
one I was presented? Like this is where this is?
You know this is not the real thing.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
I mean, so, LaVar, you got a big fat Hall
of Fame ring. If you lost it in.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
A it's not the original, but it's a replacement. I mean,
you can, you can acknowledge it as I mean, it's
still your, your Holly.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
I mean, the.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Accomplishment is the accomplishment, but it's not the original. It's
not the original.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
God, if I lost my thumb ring I jump off
a freeway overpass.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Would you think it'd be worse if you lost at
LeVar in that way like a big bath of chili.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
I wouldn't do that with my ring?
Speaker 6 (37:31):
Did you have Do you have a second one just
in case you lost the first one?
Speaker 4 (37:34):
No? I don't. In fact, I thought I lost it
the other day some way, somehow, I think something one
of my kids they put it, put it back in
the jewelry box. I left it on in the place
I usually put my jewelry when I'm sitting down, and yeah,
I stay calm, But on the inside, I felt.
Speaker 5 (37:56):
A certain type of way what you feel.
Speaker 4 (37:59):
I'm I mean, I felt emotions. I felt emotions. I
didn't want to feel. Oh man, it's not like I've
gotten that many wins in my life, you know what
I mean? So I take the winds I can get
and want to hold on to them and not let
them go. You know, so there is.
Speaker 5 (38:17):
That you guys. Ever lost your wedding ring?
Speaker 4 (38:20):
I don't know where I'm at.
Speaker 5 (38:21):
I've lost two down a sink.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
It's somewhere, but you know, kind of sinks to you have.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
I just it was like one of those like on Amazon,
they had this deal like a pack of six like
silicone rings for like seven dollars or seven eighty nine
or something like that, and so they're not made all
that great, but you got like different colors. So like,
you know, if I'm rolling with magenta, I've got a
magenta ring. You know, I can just kind of mix
and match a little bit. You know, I'm all about
different colors and variation.
Speaker 6 (38:47):
You're not. You only were black when I see them.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Yeah, whatever, So, but the point is a lot of
darker colors included. And I lost two of them down
this sink because I was washing my hands and the
soap just you know, a little wear and tear, and
the way they went, my wife was like, oh God,
what are you gonna do?
Speaker 5 (39:02):
I was like, what do you mean go to Amazon about? Yeah,
they're seven dollars. What else we got?
Speaker 8 (39:09):
Well, guys, in case you miss this, Kaitlyn Clark is
finalizing an eight figure endorsement deal with the Swoosh. She's
gonna get her own signature shoe with Nike, an.
Speaker 7 (39:18):
Eight figure deal. There you go for all the folks
who thought she wasn't gonna make as much in the pros.
I never really understood that because all are like nil.
Money was not just donor based or alumni. There was,
I mean a ton of different you know, partner she
had in the corporate world.
Speaker 6 (39:33):
So good for her. I hope, I hope. By by
the way, I hope there's a lot more that's spread
around though.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
Are you guys gonna buy your daughters some Kaitlyn Clarks
if they look good?
Speaker 4 (39:45):
I mean, I just if they want them.
Speaker 6 (39:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (39:49):
I was just like, I don't know if like daughter
walks by and likes to shoe, sure, what else?
Speaker 8 (39:54):
Okay, guys, In case you missed this, a thirty nine
year old Augusta National employees being charged with stealing over
is stealing millions of dollars worth of Master's merch and
legally moving it across state lines.
Speaker 5 (40:06):
We've talked about it before.
Speaker 8 (40:08):
Master sells about seventy million dollars worth of merch each
year at the location because you can't buy it online,
so you did it to sell it on the secondary market.
Speaker 6 (40:16):
You could only buy it there.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
And by the way, I saw someone who had marked
up a shirt to like seven hundred dollars. Now you
could buy in the shop or something for like one
hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
I mean it is a classic logo though.
Speaker 7 (40:28):
Just the year, the one logo like you literally can't
even replicate the one that just came out with like
their Augusta National Club on it.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Damn love the Masters
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