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April 18, 2024 38 mins

Deion shoots down false reports. NFL Reporter for TheMMQB, Albert Breer discusses Bill Belichick not getting a job this offseason and much more. Plus, if Jerry can’t get another Super Bowl ring, he might buy a National Championship for Arkansas.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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sneaking another booze to a venue like He's just always
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time and Lee, how close are we to coming up

(01:54):
with the final product for Lee's Specials or whatever we're
gonna call this.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, Lee's Deals, Lee the lapsed Deals, We're getting there.
I think I think I have a good idea of
how to get this started. A little listener participation, maybe
on on the old social media. People could send me
their best, you know, food, beverages or just sneaky ideas
of how to have a good good time with me

(02:18):
and Todd and we could kick the kick those around.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
This is that what we're calling this segment Good Times
with Todd.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
Delivery, the delivery Wednesdays. We had a good delivery Wednesday yesterday,
did you really?

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
It was in and out.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
It was.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
It was in and out yesterday. Actually you brought some
in and out and what did you get in return?
Come on, now, watch some show gun.

Speaker 6 (02:42):
It went in and then it came out.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
I haven't watched a new episode yet, so I'm gonna
try to watch it today.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, it's good. It's a good series.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
So yeah, just uh, you know, people could tweet at
me or accept me whatever they want to do, and uh,
we're gonna find some good deals across this beautiful country.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Like, for example, it's a Thursday. What would you recommend
for people that are looking to get a little sneaky
on a Thursday.

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steak and eggs breakfast. You can get a whole steak
and eggs for I think like sixteen bucks and a
seven dollars all day bloody Mary by the way, day
bloody all day, bloody marries seven bucks.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
So the entire day they're seven dollars yep, and you
get them spicy. Oh of course, you gotta get spicy,
bloody married staking eggs and spicy bloody marries.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
I don't drink bloody marries, but it does sound good.
That does sound good.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Walk out of there for thirty bucks because you're gonna
have two bloody marries.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
And uh and you're good to go for the rest
of the day. Are good to go to eat again? Yeah? Alright,
so there it is. So if you got the ideas
after the gym, you know, yeah, of course, yeah, you
gotta get your protein fixed.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
I saw that app work the other day.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Such a jerk.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I was eating in the morning.

Speaker 6 (04:06):
Okay, yes, rack of ribs.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
That was my birthday birthday breakfast.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Lorena like to keep them plump.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I didn't realize you wait, my tots.

Speaker 6 (04:16):
Oh geez, and the tots.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I actually dropped those tots on the ground. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Oh no, yeah I did.

Speaker 6 (04:22):
I did hear.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Everyone loved the tots though.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
They were they're cold tots. What do you want cold tots?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
You need to put them in the toaster oven.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Sometimes the flavor is better when it's cold.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Sometimes better off the floor too. You know, you can,
you know, you can resurface them.

Speaker 4 (04:38):
I had I had thought about it for like two seconds.
I was like, do I put these tots back in
this uh? In this container? I wasn't gonna eat the tots,
so I'm sorry, Lorena.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
I didn't even put them in the container for someone else.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Not about it for like a second.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
I mean, with everything we know that's crawled around the
floor of the studio, that's.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
What I was gonna say, at least you weren't wasting
you know.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, they just pick it up and walk away with it.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
Roaches have come clean it up. I got I got
DIBs on that one right there.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Like walking out with a tot like Karen Kegs.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
We got tots. We got tots tonight. Dang, what is
the press?

Speaker 3 (05:16):
So yeah, if you've got any ideas, throw it, Lee
is at lead to lap on Twitter x where you
can find that. Sure, there's some people who got some
bargains out there. Well, we do have an update on
a story that we've talked about on this show, Dion Sanders.
There was this report that was out there that you know,

(05:36):
he was only interested and having his kids play for
six teams. He listed the teams. You know, we discussed that.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Did you say it was a rumor? Did he say it.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Well, he's saying that it was a lie, that he
didn't say it.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
So that's that's.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
That's where I'm confused. I get I'm confused because I
thought it was from him, but Dion saying, no, that's
a face lie, like he.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah, he said he never named teams. He shot me
a message yesterday said that he never named teams that
he wants his kids to play for. And he also
said it would be easier to name the teams I
wouldn't want them to play for if I was into that.
That's a good point. That is what he said. I mean,
that's what he sent me. So that's not that's not

(06:24):
an opinion. That's that's actually he factually sent me this message,
and I just just gave that to you guys. And
I asked him about the Dallas the Dallas situation. He says,
he doesn't want to go pro so the thing that
you made up, yeah, I mean that was I didn't
make it up. Yeah, well, I didn't create a rumor.
I just theorized and threw it out there.

Speaker 5 (06:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
I threw it out there, and I felt, well, you
started it, but I'll take it.

Speaker 6 (06:50):
I mean I ran with it. Well, it's made a
lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
You got to understand something that if you if you
throw out a rumor and you want to get it
to get some traction on this show, do not have
me do it. You got to have you guys with
some actual credibility do it. I'd rather just talk about
guys being degenerate gamblers. But if you guys add your
name to it and you get the credit for it,
then it's going to have some legs.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Made all the sense in the world. The timing of
it is pretty I mean, it just fits. It just
would fit if Dallas were to be I mean the
owner and the relationship between him and the owner, I
mean it just fits.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
That's all to your point of saying it fits.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Like if that opportunity presented itself, it probably changes the
way you're thinking when that's not your reality right now.
You know, he's getting ready to go into a fall
with CU and a different Big twelve and try to
go win a conference championship.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
Right See, if you get in the playoff, like that's
where your focus is at.

Speaker 7 (07:49):
Well, if Shador is in a position to get drafted
as one of the top quarterbacks, Dallas does happen to
be one of those teams that job happens.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
To be open, like if those stars alive. And to
your point the other.

Speaker 7 (08:01):
Day, like, yeah, you have to consider that there's guys
who've moved on from college to the NFL that I've
spoken to them, like how much better is your life now?

Speaker 6 (08:12):
And they're like, you have.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
No idea because what you're getting at the college level
is this world where it's progressing towards a professional.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
Model, but it's not there.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
And the people who I think, unfortunately are impacted the
most are the coaches because they never stop recruiting the
high school kids, the future years of high school kids,
even after the most recent class signs, right the early enrollees,
the guys who come in maybe in February. Then you've
got your current players. Then you've got your transfer portal,

(08:48):
like it never stops. It literally never stops, at least
in the pro level. You've got a draft class, you've
got a free agency class.

Speaker 6 (08:55):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
These guys signed contracts, they're there, like.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
You know who you're working with, you know which guys
have guaranteed moneies.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
That you're like, well, they're going to be here this year, Like.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
I know that for a fact, because they're not going
to move on from a guy we just paid umpteen
million dollars to be here.

Speaker 5 (09:11):
You know that is not the case at the college level.
These kids can leave. I can transfer in the fall.
I can transfer in the spring.

Speaker 7 (09:19):
The NCAA just came out not they're not going to
penalize multiple time transfers.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
They'll be eligible right away. They decided that yesterday.

Speaker 7 (09:27):
So you literally have two separate times where you're recruiting
guys who may just got there.

Speaker 5 (09:32):
Just to stay there.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
It is crazy. And you're telling me if a coach
had the opportunity to coach in the pros, he wouldn't
rather have to deal with that. I mean, right now,
Colorado's got an entirely new offensive line where it was
a year ago, and they gave up a ton of sacks,
So that might be part of it, But there's also
an element of like, wouldn't it be nice and don't
have to worry about that I have to re recruit

(09:56):
and re you know, pay a new offensive line through NILO.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
You could get to coach your kid for another decade,
Like hell, wouldn't want that? Just from a personal level, that's.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
Just seeing to make sense. But I mean, and look, granted,
I mean he things can always change, but some people
do love what you know, he he, I don't know.
I think he really loves the college space, and I
think he really really enjoys what he's he's created and
what he's I mean, I look at it like this,

(10:27):
what he's done with Colorado football is nothing short of
a phenomenon. And I mean he's the guy you'd say, Okay,
he's the guy that could do it.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
But could he do that again?

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Could he replicate building a phenomenon at the pro level?
Could he do it at another you know, college? I
mean he did it at Jackson, but not to the
degree that it was at you know, at Colorado with
the type of attention and everything that was surrounding it.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
I don't know. I think he's just built something so.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Good where he is that if he is able to
have some sustaining, sustained success, I mean, why disrupt that
he could get probably, I mean, coaches don't get very
much time these days, Like what's the longest tenured coach
at the college level. I mean, you got some that

(11:23):
have made it over ten years at this point, But
it doesn't happen often. I mean, if you got an
opportunity where you really have roots down where a school
supports you, not just the athletic director, but everybody else
above the athletic rector, like the people who really run
to school, and they're supporting you the way that they're

(11:44):
supporting him there, I just don't see how. I don't
see how you would want to leave. You have everything
you want.

Speaker 7 (11:51):
To that point too, Like I don't think he can
do the things that he's done at CU at the
NFL level in regards to like isn't he getting a
portion of the tickets? I want to say, like the
way it's set up as far as the merch, and
how he's being compensated, Like, I don't know that a
pro owner would that great. I think it might be
able to pay you more, but I don't know that

(12:11):
a pro owner can give you like full autonomy of
like the merch, sales and everything you do in regards.

Speaker 5 (12:17):
To the brand.

Speaker 7 (12:19):
Right, Like he's he's been able to completely take over
you know, see you where it's it's like you see
the CU, you see the buffalo, see the logo, But
coach Prime's got his own like stuff that it's like
right there with it, like you kind of think of
them as one of the same now, Like I don't know,
if you go to Dallas, like your the star is
still the star. That's always going to be the logo

(12:40):
and the brand you think of, even though he'd be
the head coach, Like, I don't know that Jerry Jones
or Steven Jones would let him take a percentage of
sales of stuff. Maybe he'd do his own thing for merch,
but it would just it would be interesting. I think
from that standpoint, he's probably got.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
A little more control of that control there it is.
That control is not going to be there in Dallas.
We know that, Yeah, but he's got control where he is,
and he seems like he's comfortable and confident where he's at.

Speaker 6 (13:04):
So I just thought I put that out there. I
asked I made sure.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I asked him if if it was okay for me
to share it, and he said he's not only said
it was okay, but he wanted it to be shared.
Said that Brady Quinn is like, man, like, make sure
you you know, shut Brady Quinn down with what you're
talking about. Said that, yeah, but but you know, I
just he's my old teammate and I'm good friends with him,

(13:28):
so I just forget. You know.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
That's great, But you guys stop making up.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
It was said we had to shut you down. But
what was the actual Yeah.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
Said was the actual source of where that came from?
Though wasn't a podcast.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
The whole thing is very confusing.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
No, I mean you could Lee could Google search where
the report came from?

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Lee?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Where did the initial report come from? Because Lee, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
And professional Jodah said it.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
He well, We're going to edit your out and just
include mine. So it makes it seem like I have
full control here.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
You know, he did say said Brady down. I just
make no.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
He was just fun because Lee was away from the
from his desk, so I wanted to.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
People were running with the with the people, well, a
lot of people ran with this report though the six
teams that he said this on a million dollar podcast,
which was from weeks ago. I went through the whole
thing and couldn't find out. They did talk about Atlanta
and he loved Atlanta and that was the one team
they were talking high about. And Philly because the guys
he was talking to were high on Philly and they

(14:35):
were discussing how he would, you know, was into pulling
an ELI if they were gonna go to a team
he disliked. But he never did list those of those
other teams in the in the reporting.

Speaker 7 (14:48):
Those guys leak it out to the media, That's what
he said, like off camera or something.

Speaker 4 (14:53):
Yeah, I don't know who ran with it, but then
everybody kind of picked up on it that he said
six teams and he listed these guys. But I listened
to the whole podcast and they talked a lot about
Atlanta and Philly because again because the guys were from Philly.
But nope, no, and they listened all the teams that
he played for. They said, you'd like him to play
for the teams you played for, So that's probably where

(15:13):
it kind of circulated, connecting.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
Yeah, well we do know this. If you want to
play for Colorado, check your DMS, so we do know that.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
What does that mean?

Speaker 7 (15:22):
Well, they had put out there, what was that on
I don't know if it was on Instagram or TikTok
or what, but that basically, if you're an offensive player
DM shaudor it was like apparently they're not DM and
the coach. I guess the difference is they don't have

(15:42):
to have their name of the portal to contact the players.

Speaker 6 (15:46):
So that's like the workaround.

Speaker 5 (15:48):
So if let's say, for.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
Example, as a wide receiver's well maybe, but like that's
that's the workaround. So if the players like I don't
know if I want to or not, he just goes
ahead DM Shador like, let me know. They could do
their whole thing through that. It'll man then basically put
his name, put his name in the portal, have a
do not contact, and he already knows where he's going.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
I just think it's hilarious. I'm sorry, Like Dione's like, yeah,
I don't I don't really want to travel anywhere to
go recruit these kids. Well you don't need to. Just
don't tell your kids to go through the dms and
just start firing off tweets or Instagrams and see what
you get. So a man, it's gonna be fun. Year
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(16:33):
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Good Thursday morning to you.

Speaker 9 (17:46):
What's up guys that we doing good?

Speaker 3 (17:49):
We were talking about how Bill Belichick got wickershammed yesterday,
which whenever that article comes out, it's like, all right,
this is going to take at least a half hour
to get through.

Speaker 5 (17:57):
But yeah, he loves long form.

Speaker 6 (18:00):
Huh.

Speaker 5 (18:00):
It's just a guy can't the guy can't even write it.

Speaker 9 (18:02):
A lot of stuff in there, though, Brady, would you
say it's a.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Book, there's a ton of stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, there is a lot. But like you've kind of
speculated and hinted at some of it to me, you
know why Belichick, you know, wasn't going to get hired.
Things like that that we've had conversations about over the
past several months. I came away from it going, man,
this doesn't exactly paint Robert Kraft in the greatest light.
To be honest with you.

Speaker 9 (18:28):
Yeah, I felt the same way, you know, after the
way the documentary you know, played out, like and I
don't know if you guys saw the whole thing, but
you know, at the end of each episode there was
said right there copyright Craft Dynasty, LLC. And it didn't
paint Billing in a very good light. We've seen the
backlash and the players and you know, and now this

(18:52):
where you know, the backdrop to everything, guys is you know,
Craft really wants to get in the Hall of Fame,
and so you know, you see this sort of docu.
This documentary is sort of whitewashing history, and then you
come back with this and got it sort of looks like,
you know, he didn't want Bill getting another job, and
what would the reason for that be. Well, you know,
Tom already made the Patriots looking that look bad going

(19:13):
to the Buccaneers right and winning a Super Bowl there,
you know, as it possible, the Craft didn't want Bill
going to Atlanta. And if he went big there, what's
Craft left with? You know? So look, I think I
believe Robert Kraft belongs to the Hall of Fame. Six
super Bowl championships, you know, and and obviously it's made
a huge impact in the broadcast committee and had a

(19:36):
huge huge impact in the league in general.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
But you have to.

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Say that when there's an owner who's a part of
the broadcast committee, as a broadcaster who covers the would
have to say that, you do, you have to acknowledge
his impact on the as part of that broadcast.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
But no, but no, but it's part of it. It's
part of his case, you know, like the business part
of it is how owners make their impact. You know,
I don't know. I mean, I think here's the thing, guys, like,
I think I think he deserves to be in. But
if I'm like on that and I don't. I'm not
a Hall of Fame voter, but if I'm one of
the people on that channel, like this is going to
sort of turn me off. You know, it's not going
to convince me to vote for him. You know, when

(20:14):
he's up against other guys, you know, in that contributor category,
like Mike Shanahan, who, I mean half the league runs
Mike Shanahan's offense. Like, after all this, who would you
rather vote for Mike Shanahan who's kind of been quiet
and bited his time and waited it, or Robert Kraft,
who seems to be openly campaigning for it.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know, I would ask this because we we had
an interesting conversation earlier.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
It sounded eerily.

Speaker 7 (20:39):
Similar to what Albert just said, LeVar, So this is
gonna be really interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Yeah, you guys did. I don't quite the same. I
don't know why I'm echoing, but uh, I'm curious as
to the idea of Robert Kraft. Is is it a
bigger deal that Robert Kraft puts it out there that
he doesn't want him to or does it seems like
he doesn't want to get him, you know, coach Belichick

(21:05):
another job? Or is that more on the people that
are hiring him? You know, I think that's the bigger deal,
is like wash the Beast? Wat should that sway another
person another organization from hiring him?

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Well, I think it's both, you know, I think it's
I think part of it it's it doesn't reflect well
on Robert the guy you know, wins him six Super
Bowls and you know he's picking up the phone and
calling an owner and say don't hire him, right. I
don't think that reflects great on Craft And I don't
think it reflects great on other owners too, that a
guy who's won six Super Bowls or seven openings, you know,

(21:42):
outside of the New England openings the opening made eight
this year, and you know, the guy wants to work
and can't get a job. I mean, I think a
lot of it boils down to and you guys have
you know, you guys have been around owners and you
know this, Like you know, I think a lot of
it boils down to owners by themselves this toy. They
don't want to play with the toy, you know what
I mean. Like, and when you have a coach who

(22:04):
comes in who has a little bit of a has
you know, I guess a dominating presence is the way
you would put it, and comes in and wants control
over things, and you know, Ken run Rof shot over people.
You know, a lot of owners look at that and say,
I don't want that, even if it comes at the
cost of winning, right, And so I think that's the reason, honestly,

(22:26):
guys like why Jim Harbaugh had trouble getting a job
the last couple of years. I think it's because other
owners saw what happened in San Francisco and saw him
clashing with what Jed Yorke and said, I don't want
to do. I don't want that, you know, even if
the guy's going to win me twelve or thirteen games
a year. I think that's part of the reason why
Mike Brable's out this year. And that's tremendously unfair to

(22:46):
Mike Brable because you can ask any of Mike Brable's
players what they think of him. Right, But there's this
perception out there that if you know, if you hire
Mike Brabile, he's going to come in and you know
he's going to run over everybody, you know, And you know,
I think the same thing certainly exists with Belichick, where
I mean, these guys prioritize these ideas they have or

(23:07):
the structure they want over just bringing in the right
people and building around them. You know, I think I
think it's a real problem with NFL owners right now.
You know, you can go back to you can go
back to Jerry Jones hiring Bill Parcells. Well, why do
you do that? Well, you know he did that in
two thousand and three because he'd been sufficiently embarrassed where
it was, I need credibility back in the organization. I'm

(23:28):
trying to build a stadium, So I'm going to hand
the keys to a guy and can give me credibility. Like,
I think that's probably the next team that hires Belichick,
right as a team that is in that position where
they just need credibility, and you know, otherwise, I think
these owners are going to keep hiring people they're just
simply more comfortable with and feel like they would have
a better time running their football team with Yeah.

Speaker 7 (23:50):
I mean, it feels like that's kind of the nature
of business though, when you talk about multi multi multimillionaires
and buildings like they don't want to be told what
to do. They would work with people that they like
and are going to probably I don't want to say yes, man,
but it feels like that. So I was unaware of
the fact that this is really all just a push
by Robert Kraft to get in the Hall of Fame,

(24:12):
which I mean, that's what it seems like now looking
back in retrospect.

Speaker 5 (24:15):
I guess and I said this earlier, like.

Speaker 7 (24:18):
Robert Craft as much as he's in the public eye,
maybe for like how this report came out, or the
Patriots documentary, and I guess trying to paint Belichick in
a bad light, which paints him.

Speaker 5 (24:28):
In a good light.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
I also feel like Bill's gonna be much more out
in the open on TV. He does such a great
job as an analyst with various teams. I mean, he
doesn't even have to talk good about himself. Matt rules
out Ria most recently talking how smart he is, how
brilliant he is. I mean, I would imagine that Belichick
is going to find his way into a weekly assignment

(24:50):
with someone this fall.

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Will he not be on TV somewhere?

Speaker 9 (24:54):
Yeah, I think he will be. You know, the Peyton
Manning thing is certainly a possibility. That would be kind
kind of an easy way for him to do it
where he wouldn't have to travel all over the country,
you know. And then I think the other thing he's
going to do, Brady, I think he would continue to
see him pop up like he did. You mentioned Matt
Ruhle at Nebraska. I did the same thing with Jed Fish,
you know, at Washington. I think you're going to see

(25:16):
him popping up all of these different places, and you know,
I think helping other coaches and trying to get back
to the game, and also you know, trying to set
himself up for his next opportunity, because I do think
that he wants to coach again. And you know, like
Seth wrote in the story, you know, my feeling has
been that he is willing, like I think he's sort

(25:37):
of you know, Andy Reid was in this position, right.
I think we talked about this back, you know, at
the end of the season. But when Andy Reid went
from Philadelphia to Kansas City, he had all the power
in Philly, right like, he ran everything and was very
very involved in scouting and personnel. And you know, when
he went to Kansas City, he decided and yeah, I
still want to I want some decision making power, but

(25:58):
I don't want to be in the minutia of scouting.
I just want to coach, right like. And I'm going
to bring in people I trust to run personnel, and
but you know, I just want to be a coach.
And I think, you know, Bills at that point of
his life now where you know, I think part of
the next few months for him is going to be
setting up a plan and if I get back in,
here's who I want to work with as my general manager,

(26:21):
Here's going to be on my coaching staff. Here's how
I'm going to do it differently. The part of that
is going to be going around and looking in other
buildings and seeing the way their places are run. And
I think it's, like you said, the byproduct that is
going to be a lot of people being reminded of
what a what a brilliant football mind this guy is
and how obscene it is that he's out of coaching.

(26:42):
So you know, I think you're going to hear that
drum beat as we get into the season, and I think,
you know, he's going to sort of hover over some
of these jobs the same way say like Sean Payton
did a few years ago the year he was out
and get.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Her Craft not bad?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Jonas I said, does this Does this hurt craft bid
to get into the Hall of Fame by by all
of these things coming out like this?

Speaker 9 (27:05):
Yeah? I mean, I mean the Hall of Fame voters
aren't stupid, you know what I mean? Like they see
this and they see how you know, columns that had
popped up about his candidacy, and again, I think Robert
deserves to be in, you know, if you.

Speaker 7 (27:19):
Want, before Shanahand though right, I mean, Shanahan's had such
an impact.

Speaker 9 (27:24):
Even if it was close. Though, if you were a voter,
wouldn't you look at this and say, scored, I'm just
going to vote for Shanahan.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Right.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
I had a conversation with a voter yesterday about this
very subject, and yeah, honestly Craft's name didn't even really
come up.

Speaker 5 (27:37):
It was more about Shanahan.

Speaker 9 (27:39):
And why isn't Shanahan in? You know what I mean? Like,
and that's the thing is, like I think this is
a psychology of it. If you're a voter, right like
I mean, like you're going to be more sympathetic to
Mike Shanahan's cause than you are a Craft now, you know,
one hundred times over because Mike Shanahan's not out there
campaigning to get in. But if you look at his case,

(27:59):
like holy Craft, does he deserved to come in to
be in? He changed the way the NFL plays offense,
his offense. I mean, what is it like thirty forty
fifty percent of the league runs his offense? Everybody runs
some version of what he did in Denver all those
years ago, Like Mike Shannan certainly deserves I mean, for.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
What it's worth. I'm hearing reports that Robert Kraft is
in the Orchards of Asia Hall of Fame.

Speaker 5 (28:22):
So that and listen, does that play an impact at
all Albert?

Speaker 9 (28:26):
But Jonas, that's part of Jonas, So that is part
of all of this. So that's what's interesting about it
is that like Pat Bowling got in, and I think
he got in and what like seventeen or eighteen something
like that, right, And you know when Pat Bowlan got in,
there was like, Okay, Robert Craft's next in line and
Jerry got in a couple of years before that and
what happened, and then the Orchards of Asia happened. Honestly,

(28:49):
that was part of it though. That was part of
why it was like, okay, like we can't put him
in right after that happened. And that's the back of
the line.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
It's true, it's true.

Speaker 9 (28:59):
Funny.

Speaker 5 (29:00):
Wait are you saying that would be too explosive to
put him?

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Wow?

Speaker 7 (29:07):
Also on that show, was there a falling out between
Belichick and Kraft after that?

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Blew up.

Speaker 9 (29:15):
I don't think their relationship was ever buddy, buddy, you know.
I think one of the things, you know, it's funny.
I remember talking to Brian Hoyer about this, right and
Hoyer told me, you know what this is when he
was I think he was playing for Kyle Shannahan the time,
and he said to me, he was like, you know,
there are certain coaches and Kyle is one of them,

(29:38):
and Bill is one of them where if you think
like he's going to come in and glad hand you
and always acknowledge you and being warm and fuzzy to you,
and you need that, like you can't play for him
right Like, so there are gonna be times when you
walk by one of those guys in the hallway and
the guy's gonna have his head down because he's got
something that he's thinking about that he needs to get

(29:58):
to his office to get down on, and he's gonna
blow by you, and you might be like, you know,
what the hell has happened? You know what I mean?
Like like if he pissed at me whatever, that's sort
of what Bill is.

Speaker 5 (30:10):
You know.

Speaker 9 (30:10):
Bill's not going to give you constant affirmation, you know.
And you know, I think that that's not only the
way Bill treated his player, that's the way players, that's
the way he treated his boss, you know. And so
and you can see it if you go back and
watch that Football Life where they followed him around in
O nine and ten, you can see like there's a
meeting with Craft where like Craft is in the office

(30:31):
before one of the games, asking like how the weather's
going to affect the game. Bill sitting there like eating
a salad and being like, I don't know, you know,
Like so like if you if you need this warm,
fuzzy relationship, he's not going to give that to you.
And that's the way I mean, it's a great success.
The coach owner relationship was in New England for a
long long time, and so I think eventually that Warren

(30:52):
craft and it was something he was willing to deal
with so long as they were winning championships. But when
things sort of started to circle the drain the last
couple of years, you know, that's when those sorts of
things I think started to wear and craft a little
bit more and make him want to look for something else.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Albert, I wanted to ask you real quick. We've got
less than a minute, but I wanted to ask you
because there's been speculation about which team is going to
move up to potentially take the fourth quarterback if you
had to guess right.

Speaker 9 (31:18):
Now or the third quarterback.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, like if you had to guess right now, which
which team is going to make the biggest move up
in the draft next three So I.

Speaker 9 (31:24):
Think that I think there are four teams right now
that will be in that, like you just kind of
keep an eye on them trade up quarterback wise, the
Giants six, and those teams at eleven, twelve, and thirteen,
the Vikings, Broncos, and Raiders. I think the Vikings and
Giants are probably the two most likely I've heard both
those teams connected to Drake May, So I think either
of those teams, if there's an opportunity, if knowing th
other sides are going to move down, could be teams

(31:47):
that move up. I don't know that the Giants would
move up to McCarthy. I think the Vikings would, So,
you know, I think those are the teams to kind
of keep an eye on there. And then I think
further down the line, like I think the Colts and
Jaguars will be two teams to keep an eye on
that might move from the teams into the bottom of
the top ten if the right receiver skill player falls,
you know, into that nine, ten to eleven range. So

(32:10):
I think there will be some movement in the first round,
and you know, certainly I think there'll be probably at
least one trade up for a quarterback. If I had
to guess right now, I think Drake May will go
third overall, whether it's to the Patriots, the Giants, or
the Vikings, and then maybe if the Vikings was down
on that one, they move up to go and get
the cars.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
There it is at Albert Breer on Twitter or ex
Is where you can find him. Senior NFL reporter at
the MMQB also lead content strategists as well. AB We
appreciate it. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Thanks.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
There is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio coming up next year from the
tiraq dot com studios. Apparently somebody in the NFL is
having a bigger impact on sports than you realize. It's yours.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Next year on FSR, be sure to catch live editions
of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn,
LeVar Errington, and Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern,
three am Pacific.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. Hey, by
the way, LaVar, how close to you is Sierra Madre?

Speaker 6 (33:19):
Pretty close?

Speaker 3 (33:21):
They just showed a bear swimming in somebody's pool in
the backyard.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
It happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
So if you had a bear jump in your pool.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
It happens all the time, you imagine that it happens
all the time. I'm telling you, I came out to
go to work the one day and he was right there.
There was like two of them right there. Bam chilling
going through my trash. You know, it's crazy that that's
like it's real life. That's real life, Like that's not

(33:50):
a movie. It's not it's not a zoo like that.
Those are And I mean the one I saw the
last time. One was really small, but one was really
really really big, like really big, like that could be it,
like y'all could be like where's the LeVar like fight
a beer and lost?

Speaker 6 (34:10):
You know, yeah, Sierra Madres.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Right here, like Legends of the Fall.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I live on a mountain. I literally lit, Like I
go out back, I'm on a mountain. Like when I
used to keep our trash cans in our backyard behind
the gate that that's a bear proof gate, and the
back of my wall, my retainer wall isn't bear proof,
like they can get up over top of the wall.

(34:37):
And I remember I grilled salmon one night and I
put the remnants of it in the trash can out back,
and I'm watching TV and I'm like, I hear something
out back, and I go turn the light on and
the bear's ass is on the window of the door,
like it's on the door.

Speaker 6 (34:56):
It's like right there, he's on the door.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
So that's how close our encounterers have been with beers
on where I live. You got to check your pool, dad,
they say, April they start coming down.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Man.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
Right, Oh you know where bears where you can't find
them's in January.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
It's well, you won't find Justin Fields beer in Chicago anymore.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Yeah, you won't. You definitely won't. Apparently you might find
some really good players at Arkansas though, and we might
have a reason as to why that is the case.
This is from a Twitter account which I didn't realize
this is an actual thing, somebody called Trilly Donovan, which
is just just a tremendous Twitter account. They've said, and

(35:42):
they're reporting that Jerry Jones is offering double whatever the
Kentucky commits we're making to come to Arkansas. He's an
Arkansas booster and reportedly helped them hire John Caliparrii last week. So,
I mean, if you can't get it done with the
Cowboys in the NA, maybe this is the next best thing,

(36:02):
trying to deliver Arkansas another national championship. And now all
of a sudden they've got a big time advantage. So
now we've got to find a Kentucky booster. Uh, you know,
maybe uh, maybe the meat Wagon or somebody like that
can start to pitch in and we could start getting
some of these other recruits to sway back to Kentucky.

Speaker 7 (36:18):
You know, Salary cap and uh and the NIO world
in college. So you can construct a pretty darn good team.

Speaker 3 (36:25):
So I mean, I just like, how much are we
talking about? Jerry Jones would would kick down to Arkansas?
Like why did? Why does he care so much about
his alma mater that, why wouldn't you? Okay, but he's
got a football team to run, like he's got an
NFL team that's got.

Speaker 6 (36:43):
But you're alma mater is your alma mater? Man?

Speaker 1 (36:46):
Like if you if you're one of those ones that
love your you're like one of those guys that either
you love your school or you don't. Like that's I
think that that's how it generally is. I tend to
love my school to that level. Like if I ever
became as wealthy as as Jerry Jones, I would do
way more. I mean I do a lot now, but

(37:06):
within my means, I would do way more if I had,
you know, endless resources to be able to support because
that's that's that's legacy, right, Like that's like your institutional
education and background if you have, if you have a
connection to that for life, like a building is named
after you or an arena is named after you or

(37:27):
something like that, that's kind of like a legacy deal.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Like to me, I feel like that's that's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
I mean, did he have anything to do with Bobby
Petrino going to Arkansas?

Speaker 6 (37:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
I mean, did he pay for the moped?

Speaker 6 (37:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I just want to know, like how how how closely.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
You might have been one of one of the you know,
former cowgirls or something like that.

Speaker 7 (37:48):
Yeah, I would to know whose idea was for the
neck brace, That's what I would. I mean, you tell
me someone who stands up at a press conference with
a neck brace, tell me you don't feel sympathetic for him.

Speaker 3 (37:59):
It is a good move, Like there are certain devices
where you.

Speaker 7 (38:03):
See it's like the opposite of like a cowboy collar.
Like you see a dude wearing a cowboy collar, You're like, oh, man,
I bet he can hit. You see to do with
the neck brace?

Speaker 5 (38:11):
Then hit? That's right. The immediate sign up, Oh a
terrible accent. They've been terribly struck by something.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
You got options. You can either wear a cowboy collar
or neck brace. You choose the path in life, and
Bobby P got that neck brace.

Speaker 7 (38:26):
Neck Brace is powerful, dude. It just causes all sorts
of emotion for people.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
Lawyers of lawyers will me to run to them, dang,
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