May 9, 2024 • 38 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Rick Carlisle pulls the ‘small market team’ from the bottom of the deck. The guys have a suggestion for improving “Pro Bowl Week.” Plus, cost of recycling, the Utah___ and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up on this Thursday edition. We got a lot of
complaining going on out of Indianapolis, and it's not to
do with Caitlin Clark. It's got everything to do with Rick,
Carlisle and the Pacers. We will discuss. Plus, Nikola Jokic
wins another MVP and just does it without leaving his feet.
(00:20):
It's really fascinating. We're also gonna have a conversation about
some coin flips in the NFL and it brings back
an oldie but a goodie. Is the Pro Bowl fixable?
Joe Burrow thinks it is. We disagree. We'll discuss that.
We're also gonna have another edition of In case you
missed it. We've got a quarterback who could be on
the verge of starting Week one, and it's for our
franchise that does that a lot. We'll explain, and we're
(00:43):
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Rule with Albert Breer, and we close up shop with
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coming up next here. Two Pros and a cup of
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damn New York Knicks huh yeah, just throwing it down
at MSG getting it and all the boys right, hell yeah, man,
(01:46):
you know, yeah yeah, And you know you couldn't have
an NBA playoff series without the law offices of Bitch
and Moan checking out. Oh and apparently Rick Carlisle, the
head coach of the Indiana Pacers is none too thrilled
(02:07):
with the officiating thus far through two games at MSG.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
After game one, we we always go through the film
and games where it felt like, you know, the whistles
weren't balanced, and we pulled the clips and there's a
there's a way you can submit them to the to
the NBA office. And so there were twenty nine plays
in game one that we thought were clearly called the
(02:32):
wrong way. I decided not to submit them because I
just felt like, you know, we get a more balanced
whistle tonight. It didn't feel that way. I can promise
you that we're going to submit these tonight. New York
can get ready. They'll see them too. I'm always talking
to our guys about not making it about the officials,
(02:53):
but we deserve fair.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Shot, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And and it's just there's no there's not a consistent balance,
and that's disappointing. Their their physicality is rewarded and ours
is penalized to time after time, and so small market
teams deserve an equal shot, no matter where, no matter
where they're playing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, oh wow, small market team from.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
The bottom of the day. Yeah, is that what he went?
It's not the bottom of the deck.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
That's the messaging though, because can we be real about this,
what we've all been in the TV radio industry. We
know that's the bigger brands that drive ratings, right, we
know it's the atmosphere and msg that all the things
that people want to see behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And we've heard stories about this.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
We know people who are you in this business, who
are rooting for the New York Knicks to get there
or they're rooting for the.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Bigger market team.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I mean, probably one of the biggest disgraces is in
the NFL, which is the top sport, that the Kansas
City So the ones that traded up took Patrick Mahomes.
It's not the New York Jets, New York Giants, it's not,
you know, one of those bigger, big markets, and instead
it's him in Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So you hear the stuff, but that's the truth.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
And I don't know that the officiating was quite as
bad this past game as it was in the.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
First game, but there is a bit of a balance.
I mean, obviously the.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Pacers get got called more for a few more fouls,
and obviously go back to Game one, there's some atrocious
officiating in that one.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
So you can see a poll from the bottom of
the deck. There's some truth to that though. That was
a demoralizing loss. They they should have won that game.
I mean, he can put it on the referees, but
they should have won that game. They had the opportunity
to win it. They were playing a team that would
(04:53):
shorthand it their best player for an entire quarter. He
came back, wound it and still was spanking them. Uh,
one of their other guys and his his what hamstring
his booty cheek was was falling off during the game.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I mean he was hurt. I'm blank. Was that og
at that? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, there can be no you can he can make
it about them being a small market team. He can
make it about the officials, and and he could be
very well accurate in what he's saying. But watching the game,
they could have won the game, and they should Like
(05:37):
complaining about what looked like a double dribble that wasn't
a double dribble, can't be you bitching and moaning about
officiating being skewed towards the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They did the right thing. They waved the call off.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
It was like so disappointed and frustrated in the car, like, dude,
it was a double dribble, like, get over it. I mean,
come on, y'all allowed to do come back. His foot
is banged up. He had the Sherman clump foot and
still was crossing y'all up and putting it in the hole,
(06:16):
like like, accept a loss and try to do something
to turn this into a series.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Try to do something.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean, it is another layer of intrigue to the series,
because now I am curious to see I thought going
into this game that based on the complaints and the
awful calls, and I'm with Brady, I didn't think last
night's game was as bad as Game one. The calls
late in game one, the illegal screen were awful, like
they were terrible, So I thought there would be an
(06:45):
overreaction and an overcorrection by the officials, and there wasn't.
And so now after you hear Rick Kyler Carlisle go
that direction, I'm fascinated to see how this is looked
at in game three because those fans like what Carlisle's
done is see gas up the Indiana Pacer vans to
where they're going to complain and rip into the refs
(07:06):
any chance in any opportunity they get in game three,
and so I do like that he's added another layer
of intrigue to the series.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So I was gonna say, like, you know what, i'd
the advice that i'd give these officials. You know, just
don't stay Indianapolis. When you go, like I, stay somewhere
like outside of it. I don't know, Tera Hoot or somewhere, you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Know, somewhere like somewhat close French Lick. Maybe maybe not
far enough. That's all I know. I mean, you go
look at a map right now, Jonas LeVar.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You guys pick some obscure, smaller town cities and you
stay at a holiday and express, all right, or you
stay fight maybe done Bloomington.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
They got a graduate hotel down there.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, that's a great call.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah, stay a graduate hotel somewhere down there, because I
know it's a little bit of a trek, but I
don't think you're going to be treated overly well if
they find out that you're part of the NBA officiating
crew with the way this series.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Has gone so far.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
French Lick to Indiana Indianapolis two hours, six minutes. That's
a one hundred mile drive.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Lovely, just French Lick.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, you know, I'm with you, good golf.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Ma.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
There we weren't being yeah, we being then about French
earlier in the week though.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, but it sounds good. That's I don't know if
it is. It sounds good though.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
You know, I'm just saying you you was, you was
holler in America earlier and on this this week. You know, well, yeah,
you're welcome, French lifting, you know, for all those.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Who sacrificed and and stepped up and defended France and
they needed to.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, they're they're welcome.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Why the hell would French Why how would French Lick
have good golf courses?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Is when you're not from the Midwest, you asked questions.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like that when you grew up.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Me tell your entire life in Thousand Oaks.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
People say and ask questions like that because they've never
driven through the Midwest.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
They don't know how beautiful the Midwest can actually be.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Who there's great opportunities to old golf courses, have resorts,
having to have a nice little hotel or maybe a
nice little lake with a bunch.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Of attractions around. Disrespectful, it's coming. It's like one hundred
yards away the crazing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right when everybody knows that Monmouth, Illinois a French farmed.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
The table not like that, you know what they say,
Oh it's farm the table listenally just they got bought
it a farmer's market.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Let me go put on your table. Let me know
how you can smell the farm from the road.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, let me go ahead and put you guys up
on a little bit of game here French click to Monmouth, Illinois.
All right, everybody knows it's a straight shot on the
ice seventy four. Everybody knows that it's it's just under
a six six a six hour drive and you can
get there straight on the ice seventy four. Now if
you wanted to, you know, you could take the five,
the fifty nine to the seventy four, or you could
(09:46):
take the sixty nine to the seventy four.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
We feel like Google maps. Are you talking of reading
them off? Is I kid idea?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I can't get Wi Fi in this studio and you
know that this is all just from the Midwest.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Or you can fly into Chicago and you know not
make your next flight and jump into a truck and
drive to Ohio Chicago.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, if you do have a medical issue, just you know,
take an uber all the way from Chicago to Columbus.
You know, there could be that.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
God was that when it was gout? Yeah? Man, how's
that bitness that under control? I heard nothing about it?
Hey you, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
So were I got a mad I got me a
mad boy, put that thing in check.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
The crazy thing about it was when you kept describing it.
I had a friend and and him and a sudden
listen to our show in the morning, especially when they're
driving a drop off, but he was going through the
same thing, and I'm like, man, this sounds so similar
to what LeVar is dealing with. And that's why I
was like, positive it was gout. I mean, I have
no medical background, but positive based on his account of what.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
It was that you were dealing with, gout Man, my
big toe was I had to Sherman like like how
like how Brunton had the Sherman clump foot. I had
the Sherman clump toe. I had the Sherman club ankle.
Oh man, I had a Brunton and didn't even play
no ball.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Oh I know.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Was when you had that walk on though it was
kind of that pipwalk. You know, you kind of had
that little lip to it, and I was like, all right,
it's kind of cool. Though, you could play this off.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
For a while.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I went and got a scooter right after I left
you guys, I went to the game with a scooter.
My adrenaline was going so so high when I did
the big news. My adrenaline was going so high during
the game that I was walking normal. I walked normal
during the game. As soon as the game was over,
I couldn't walk. Couldn't walk, like literally couldn't put any
(11:43):
pressure on my foot.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Jonas well, I mean, I just think that's what being
around a guy like Rob Stone does to you.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
It could have been the Midwest are too though possibly
you know, hey, you know, I don't know. It could
have been the referees.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
If you're from the midwell, I'm blaming the refs, you
know what, my gout outright refs.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You suck. It was interesting, he said, he'd you know,
after game one, which was atrocious towards.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
The end, Like he Recallo didn't want to blame the officials,
but it is cool to hear the entire process the
NBA goes through.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I mean, I remember that we have that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Process in the NFL, and we would go through plays
and they would assigned coaches to submit them in to
the NFL for officiating review, and they would come back
and just be like, yeah, we got that wrong, or
now you know that, this is why, this is the
rationale behind it. It's you know, somewhat subjective in this case.
So unfortunately like your you know, sol in this case.
(12:47):
But I find the process of it interesting because there
is no recourse. You're not getting the win back. Maybe
it draws attention for the officials, so next time around
there are more favorable towards you, I guess. But the
real factor would be if they got demoted. If you
find the officials, you know, for their inaccuracies.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Now that's to be.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Hard to do because it's hard to find officials as
it is, but there's really no work around outside of
drawing attention to it. And exactly what you said, Jonas
to get you know, everyone in Indianapolis when they come
to the Great State of Indiana just absolutely all over
these officials to the point where they feel the pressure
to if it's controversial or maybe it's it could go
either way.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Maybe they're actually calling it in the direction of.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The Pacers' But you can see this in every sport
that there are, like who's it Angel Hernandez and baseball
the guys notoriously one of the worst umpires in baseball
and just still doing it. This is no like you
hear it from everybody. Guys awful, Like you know, Cowboy
Joe West was bad for years. He would get into
altercations with players and managers all the time over awful calls.
(13:59):
Nothing was done, And it's almost like there's this immunity
that you get when you're an official in sports to
where they're like, listen, we trust. As long as you
get like ninety five percent of the calls right, you're fine.
That's a passing grade. Even though you'll butcher a call
on the biggest stage, in the biggest moment, you don't
hear anything about it. And also to Rick Carlile when
he says, I found twenty nine calls or whatever he
(14:20):
found in Game one that I was going to report
to the league, Why didn't you, Like it's the playoffs, Like,
if it's that important to you, you should have reported
it and done something about it. But maybe he's at
the point to where he says, look, I don't know
what we can do. He thought it was going to
correct itself. It didn't, and now they're down two zero
in a hole. But you know, and Anobi's injured. Obviously
(14:41):
they've dealt with injuries. You know, Thibodeau's got those guys
playing forty eight I think it was Josh Hard who
said after the game, like, it doesn't matter what the
injury is, I'm playing forty eight minutes every game anyway.
So you know, it's we'll get to see what happens
in Game three for those Indiana Pacers. I mean, the
good news is, you know, if you ap yourselves in
this series and you get wiped out in four games,
(15:03):
at least Caitlyn Clark's in town to save the day.
So Indiana basketball is going to be fine.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Talk about that, talk about what the whole Caitlyn Clark
thing listening, you know, like just got you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Whoa, whoa, I don't never mind.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, just you know, woh you're talking about the the
met Gala.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Metal Oh wow? No I wasn't. No, oh wow.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
So ye'all acting like a b Now that's that's that's
that's a bit.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I'll just say this right now. I'll just say this,
Antonio Brown, had he dropped that at the roast, that
might have been right to the top of the list
on what everybody was talking about afterwards. You know what
he went to on social media. That was at least
he at least he stuck to his guns there, you know,
(15:59):
you really really doubled down and everything.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So I think he likes her.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I think he's trying to like it's like that old
school when he loves her. But when the kids are
young though, you know how, like your daughter comes home.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Like, oh, Daddy, like some little boy, like take me
in the shit or something.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm like, well, that just means he likes you. Like
he doesn't know how to describe it or explain it.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
That just means he likes you. I think there's some
of those tactics there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, makes sense. I mean, Antonio Brown, Caitlin Clark, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, We're all gonna be here. We're
all gonna be here until all the way up until
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. Albert Breer is
going to stop by maybe he's got some thoughts on
Midwest officiating. We can get to. We're gonna have another
edition of you anyway out as we close up shop,
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and then later on this hour it's another edition of
In case you missed it, it's all yours here again
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
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a little over twenty minutes from now. Can I ask
you guys a question just kind of random?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I was thinking about this sports stock Radio.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so okay, well, I mean, because it doesn't really
have much to do with sports, but I feel like
this is something that somebody's got to know the answer to.
On this show. Has the amount you get in return
for recycling cans and bottles gone down? Or is it
just me.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Because I go hold on, Do you go and take
a bag of recyclable items and return it to get
something back?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Okay you do? Yeah, yeah, you've never done in your
entire life. Okay, why do you ask questions like.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
This, I've never done that.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, are you serious?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
If you did, you would know to answer Jonas. No,
you kind of gave yourself away.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I took some recycling in and it had been a little.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
While, took it to where Jonas, we'll take it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
To a recycling center in Thousand Oaks, California, Okay, Yeah,
And I took it and took some recycling in and
I ended up getting back like fourteen bucks, which you
know I was had in me. This is fourteen dollars
more than I had before. But I thought to myself,
you know, there's three bags here. Back in the day,
you could retire on three bags of recycling. Nowadays fourteen dollars.
(19:24):
And then the guy you know, was fourteen and ten cents.
So he did hand me the dime, which I appreciated,
which I kept, but I just wondered, has recycling gone down?
And maybe that money is being fun to get.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Here's what I know is from now on, every time
I give you a call, your ass better answer, or
if LeVar does or Lee does, because you are not
that busy, all right, given the fact that that's what
you're doing during the daytime.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What's wrong with recycling.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Nothing's wrong with it.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I'm just saying you need to start answering the phone
because you sometimes make it seem like it's hard to
get a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I mean, that's what you're doing in your free time. Man,
you are not that way.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Hey, listen, listen. You know I've got I got a
lot going on.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I got a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
You really don't. That's when you're doing your free time. Bro,
you got way too much time do you have?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Do you have some information on recycling and whether or
not the prices have gone down on what you get back,
because it feels like it has.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
I feel the same way, jonas I. I used to recycle.
I quit doing that as well because it just wasn't
just it wasn't worth my time and effort.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I thought that was what hobo is doing. They always
digging in the trash. I mean, now you guys want.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Food too, But do you not have a recycling service
that comes and picks up your recycling?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah? We do, but you can get money yourself back
for the cans.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
And when you drink like we do, you know you
might as well get a little shamey.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I think the problem is is that majority of what
I took in were plastic water bottles. My wife still
she doesn't get it that Listen, why are we Why
do you buy plastic water bottles? I walk around with
a forty ounce thermo flask Brady noses because I have
to be hydrated, you know, so I walk around a
forty ounce thermo flask, not a hydro. Some people like
the hydro. I'm more of a thermo guy myself, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Just tind to like trigger us.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
No, No, the point is is that it's trying to
wide me up. There's there's a lot of clearly there's
a lot of plastic bottles that are plastic water bottles
I take in, and apparently those don't get the return
that some of the other stuff does. You got to
go aluminum.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Yeah, you get upset when you get to you know,
somebody brings a six pack of glass over. You're like,
no bottlenecks. You want know why didn't you get the cans?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Because you get more in return for the cans.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Yeah, and the and the glass is a pain in
the ass, so you cans of glass.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
And inflation has not been a part of turning in recyclable.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Technically it has because probably in order to keep that
facility open, inflation's hit obviously the workers, so the wages
have increased, which then.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Have caused them to probably not.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Give you back as much for those products, because otherwise
they couldn't afford to stay open and give you anything back.
But the way just have to pay the employs that
are there.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
See. I knew we could get the answer out of
Brady Financial Insighter on this show. I knew it. Recycling
NFL contracts. There's no stone unturned on this show. He's
got it covered. I knew it. See, I knew we
were going to get to the bottom of it. And
I also just think that how about you take a
little bit off what you can hand out for Mega
Millions and Powerball and throw it to the recycling center
so I can walk out of there with a Chris
(22:21):
twenty dollars bill and not fourteen dollars and a dime
in my pocket.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I do have a suggestion for you, yes, sorry, if
you have containers that are twenty four ounces or larger
that you recycle instead of your regular soda cans, So
like Lea's Hefty babies over there, right, you get ten
cents back instead of five.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Boom, there you go, hey tall can thursdays lee.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
See, I got to find the place that goes by
the per unit. I just go by pound and buy
weight so they don't look at the twenty four ounces
versus twelve ounces.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah you really do? I mean, and then take that
really goes drink. There's more, there's more metals.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
There is more.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I do well kind of, but I don't think like
the ten versus five.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, Oh my god, I can't even believe. I can't
even believe that you.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I can't either. I never in my life thought we'd
be talking about this right now.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You've seen you've seen my truck.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I've heard it all, but I have now officially heard
it all.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Let me tell you something. You've seen my truck that's
not used for valet.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
That's a recycling See if I had your true looks
like a recycled can.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
With wills, and I get fourteen dollars for it, and.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
You turned that bad boy, Yeah, you get fourteen dollars.
Dang FROMO.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
From So listen, you know we've cleared that up. I
think a lot of people were wondering the same thing
that are listening across there you go. There's a lot
of people that were listening anymore. There a lot of
people that were probably wondering what the plan is for
the NFL when they come up with this eighteen game schedule.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
The two recycling, I think, so center in every stadium,
you know, and encourage giving, you know, maybe it goes
towards their ticket price.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Great point, again, great point. I think these are all
great ideas that are being thrown out.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Maybe they should reuse the cans, you know, maybe your
cans that you bring. But I guess they'd be crushed though,
so never mind. Yeah, yeah, it's taking it a little
too far.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's all right. You're thinking though, and that's that's that's
part of the battle Joe Burrow was thinking. Joe Burrow
was thinking about the eighteen game schedule in the NFL,
the possibility of that, and he threw out an idea
because you know, the the hinting is that there's going
to be two bye weeks. Uh, this will probably be
coming up here within the next couple of years when
the NFL tries to really get this done. Joe Burrow said, listen,
(24:48):
you get your standard bye week. But he did have
an idea on the tail end of this quote about
what to do with the second bye week about you guys,
this sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
You know, eighteen games is definitely a big ask. That's
that's not easy. Adding that extra game, obviously it'd be
great for revenue, But I feel like adding that bye week,
if you're going to have the eighteen games schedule, is
pretty critical for our bodies because if you keep that
first bye week and then you know, some teams have
the bye week five, week six, and then you're going
twelve thirteen games in a row, that's not easy. Probably
(25:20):
a Thursday night game thrown in there too, so that's
never easy. So those two buys are are pretty critical.
Maybe you could do something like the first buy is
kind of how we have it now, and the second
by everybody has it at once, and you make it
like the Pro Bowl week or something like a like
an All Star break for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't know, we'll see how it plays out. So
what do you guys think Pro Bowl week, second bye
of the season. Bodies torn up, Let's go hang out
for a week during the Pro Bowl instead of going
to be with our families.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
What do you think that gonna work. I mean, it
doesn't matter where you put the Pro Bowl. The days
of the Pro Bowl that LeVar was in an experience,
those are gone. I don't think you're ever going to
see those again.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
So I don't know why we keep trying to make
it or bring it back, because there's too much money
at risk. There's too much at risk for the players,
even the teams for that matter. And there's not gonna
be a focus on it if it's in the middle
of the season, if it's after the season, before the
super Bowl, there's just there's not a sense of seriousness
(26:21):
to it. So no matter how you go about doing it,
you're never gonna get what.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
LeVar was a part of.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
My only thought or idea would be, you try to
make this Senior Bowl a bigger event. It's already a
big event for scouting for teams, but you sell it
as the future stars of tomorrow and you get as
many great college football players blow it out.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Have it in.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
It could be in the super Bowl city, right, It
could be in the city that they're designating for the
Super Bowl. You could have it there during that off week,
and that would be kind of the precursor to the draft,
to the Combine, to all of that. For a lot
of NFL fans who yes, the biggest game of the
season is staring them dead in the eyes.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
But that's for two teams.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
You also have thirty other teams who are out of it,
and they're already thinking about the Draft, they're thinking about
the Combine, they're thinking about these things. So instead of
having it in Mobile, and I know that's gonna really
be crushing to Mobile's local economy. And they're gonna hate
me saying this. Jim Naga, I'm sure hates me saying this,
But that is the tweak that I think you could
get more engagement and potentially more people, you know, have
(27:32):
more eyes on to be a part of an event
like that, since you're selling the futures of tomorrow the
stars of today in the NFL. I don't know, correct
me if I'm wrong. Ar you played in it. You
were there three times. It's a great experience, But I
just I can't imagine guys gonna want to play in it.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I like the idea of it. I mean, you got
all these opt outs. Let's take it a step further.
Why not making an all American Game and take the
best players from college like that, then do a game.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, see the best players, like the All.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
American team that's chosen, have them play a game during
like announce the Pro Bowlers because and do it during
the bye week, like like I love that, but do
it during the bye week. So it's a part of
the NFL, but it's not the NFL. You announce the
Pro Bowlers. The Pro Bowlers are in attendance, and or
(28:27):
maybe they're not, who knows. But you turn it into
a spectacle for the NFL. But it dovetails into kind
of or it touches into the college space. I think
that would be crazy too, because them dudes will be balling.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
They would be.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Balling because basically, the Pro Bowl as it exists kind
of a waste of time. So at least make something
out of it.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Right, Yeah, it's almost kind of you're making a mockery
of what it was. Where it's at right now, it's
a mockery of what it was. I'd rather not see
it at all. And you just say this used to be,
this is where the Pro Bowl used to be, Like
do something like that, announce the team. Here's here's where
when we used to have the Pro Bowl, you know,
(29:11):
show some highlights from past Pro Bowls and former players
and move on from it because what it is now
it's just I don't it's shenanigans.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well let's be clear too.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
There there came a point in time where it's gotten
to the point where the alternates that it's not as
creative the.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Honor as it used to be. M h.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
And I'm not saying that any derogatory way to anyone
who's made it, even as an alternate. But when you
guys were playing LeVar, it's like everyone played like there
weren't dudes really opted out. It was it was different.
It was like what it was designed to be, Like.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
The Brett Farves, like guys like that. They you know,
they would opt out, like some of the bigger names
or older guys, they would opt out. But for the
most part, man, everybody was trying to go like that was.
That was outside of the super Bowl. That was like
got to make the Pro Bowl. It's like super Bowl,
(30:08):
got to make super Bowl first round to make super Bowl.
If we're not making the super Bowl, I got to
make this Pro Bowl like that was, and you wanted
to play in it. Like I can recall working out
like it was in season as the season was ending,
because you were going to play in the play in
the Pro Bowl. So you know, I don't know it.
(30:30):
It isn't the same. And you know that's can I
be honest to you.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I think the NFL is really the person to blame
the most, and I hope everyone understands this. When they
left and stop going to a wife than you, it
changed the entire dynamic of what that trip was for
the players where I mean, I remember when dudes be going,
they'd be like asking you, Hey, you like what we'll
pay for you to come out?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You want to come out to bring you know, I'm
bringing so and so, like come on out.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Like they were like paying for every everyone to go,
like not only their family, like they'd be paying for everyone,
like the whole crew. And I looked at it. I
was like, man, think about how much great of an
honor that is? And what I was always thought in
the back of my head was the players who are
getting incentives and they're getting paid to go, but they're
probably not even making money. They might be losing money
when it's all said and done. This trip is so
(31:19):
expensive and the NFL is probably losing money because this
trip is so expensive for all involved, and there's not
as much attention or focus on all that. And I
think the business model is what killed it. And I mean, look,
I'll be transparent. After going overseas to London, which you know,
witnessing a football matches, they would call it watching soccer
(31:41):
over there, I do get concerned about the element of
like capitalism coming into some of these leagues and just thinking.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Oh, we just throw a bunch of money.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
When I tried to drive drive revenue, drive revenue, drive revenue.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
There's some things that aren't about money.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
And that's the problem is like sometimes you know, when
you have a special event like that, you're not always
going to be able to maximize your profits. It might
be able to make a little bit, but it's an
honor to your players, it's an honor to like the
coaches and people around and had probably a great trip
for even some of the folks who are in the
NFL that are working. It as a bit of a
work slash vacation because it's more laid back, but it
(32:22):
was an honor and so a lot of times, like
a profit doesn't come with that and the problem is
because they got so focused on trying to make it
more profitable in this and that it lost its luster,
It lost.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
The allure of what it is. And now you don't
go to Hawaiian.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Now you don't got you know, have guys, the best
guys going, and now they're opting out.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Now there's not even really a game.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
And I think it had a lot to do with that,
and look like compared to the soccer game, because there's
this element of just you know, fans. It doesn't matter
where the backgrounds you come from. In fact, some of
the closest seats to the field, to the pitches, they
would say are not necessarily the cheapest, but they're much
more affordable, and they're made that way because those are
(33:05):
going to be the most rackets fans. Those are gonna
be the fans that the ones they're like keeping back
with security and barricades, or when there's a goal scored,
people go nuts and they're trying to run on the field,
and that's how it should be. Like I kind of
hate the way stadiums are are made nowadays, where it's like.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You don't get that anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
It's like the people who are the most rowdy, most
loyal fans sometimes in the nosebleeds. So I know, I'm
gone my soapbox going off on a tangent on this,
but I think that's the blame for the death of
the Pro Bowl, and really like many other things as
far as like how we see the shape of sports
and what they're becoming right now.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Got to get back to Wahoo Baby. Got to get
back there. It's not there anymore, I know, but you
got to get back there.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, literally might step on a nail if you go
back now.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Man, it's a heartbreaker.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
You know what's sad too, is you know Jonas used
to talk a lot LaVar about Kona Beer.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Now he never talks about them, you know, Big Wave.
He used to be the.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Shout out if they give me more back for recitaling.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I would never talks about them anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Ye, I mean they can happen.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean, look, if you're all cans made the same.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't know which one is you talking about. I'm
just I'm trying to get to the bottom of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Look, I figured out in the middle of my laugh.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
I was laughing because I was laughing, and I figured
out what you said, and then it and then it
became a different leg.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean that's it became. It's a whole nother,
whole other discussion. But yeah, listen to you know, I
still dabble, kind of fine, still dabble.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
But the answer is no.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Look, if you're if you're a sponsor this show, you
get a preferential treatment here on this show. And you know,
as soon as they want to jump in and jump
on board and join the party, yeah we can have
that discussion. But until then, you know, keep quiet on
that stuff. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here,
Fox Sports Radio coming up next here we are going
to tell you about how one franchise has made a decision.
We've been waiting on it. It's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
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Speaker 2 (35:44):
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Speaker 4 (35:56):
Lead.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
Lap Good Good morning, never By, Good morning Jonas, Good
morning Brady, good morning, LaVar. Morning guys. In casey missed this,
Thank you, LeVar.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
In casey missed this, we've talked about it. Utah, Well,
what used to be the Arizona Coyotes are now in Utah,
the NFL franchise, Hey Brady, Now the Utah NHL franchise
is going to go simply buy Utah, no nickname. They're
gonna let the fans decide. Uh, let them go ahead
and vote on it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
They got twenty different names you could vote on, of course,
YETI the Blast, the Frost are among the favorites out there.
But what do you guys think of that that fans
are going to be picking the name?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Don't I mean, did the fans pick the Commandos?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I mean, did they pick the Jazz Jonas?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Just let you know.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Okay, oh my gosh, okay, yep, exactly, Okay, yep, Okay.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
There's two thoughts there for me. The first are they
just scared of picking a name and the backlash or
the frustration behind it.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I mean it sounds like, typically like.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Ownership groups, they like to do a deep dive, a
deep study. They like to pull through some surveys, so
there is some crowd involvement into the decision, and they
like this, go with something that has a little more like,
you know, our full creative impact on this, I think,
instead of just presenting their fan base you know, a
few different options. It's not really I don't know, it's
(37:27):
not really taking as much responsibility for what you're putting
out there.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
But you're at the Utah Snow. We're at that, the
Utah Snow.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Utah. They got Utah Glaciers, Utah.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Utaw Blizzard.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
No blizzard, there's the freeze glaciers there. Oh there is
a blizzard. Yeah, Utah blizzard. You top blast.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Confuse that with Dairy Queen too much.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, I think so. They probably have the copyright.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
I like the bunnies.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Snow. Yeah, that could work. Trademark, you know, snow bunnies.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
That that will work really well.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I think experience now that I think about it as
well too. If you call him the Utah Snow, that
would kind of be taken away from the White Wrapper
from back in the day. You know, and I don't
know that you want to do that. There's a white
rapper named Snow back in the day. You guys don't know.
You didn't know it. First of all, you didn't know
that the jazz Can Yeah, that was him.
Speaker 8 (38:30):
The worst one by far is the Utah venom.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh, that's the worst one. Back good, Which one do
you want?
Speaker 8 (38:41):
May come up?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Utah Powder need some updates on that too, by.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
The way, Oh, updates coming.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, he's still alive. He's still alive.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
Come only
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wins another MVP and just does it without leaving his feet.
(00:20):
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at MSG getting it and all the boys right, hell yeah, man,
(01:46):
you know, yeah yeah, And you know you couldn't have
an NBA playoff series without the law offices of Bitch
and Moan checking out. Oh and apparently Rick Carlisle, the
head coach of the Indiana Pacers is none too thrilled
(02:07):
with the officiating thus far through two games at MSG.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
After game one, we we always go through the film
and games where it felt like, you know, the whistles
weren't balanced, and we pulled the clips and there's a
there's a way you can submit them to the to
the NBA office. And so there were twenty nine plays
in game one that we thought were clearly called the
(02:32):
wrong way. I decided not to submit them because I
just felt like, you know, we get a more balanced
whistle tonight. It didn't feel that way. I can promise
you that we're going to submit these tonight. New York
can get ready. They'll see them too. I'm always talking
to our guys about not making it about the officials,
(02:53):
but we deserve fair.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Shot, you know.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
And and it's just there's no there's not a consistent balance,
and that's disappointing. Their their physicality is rewarded and ours
is penalized to time after time, and so small market
teams deserve an equal shot, no matter where, no matter
where they're playing.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
I mean, oh wow, small market team from.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
The bottom of the day. Yeah, is that what he went?
It's not the bottom of the deck.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
That's the messaging though, because can we be real about this,
what we've all been in the TV radio industry. We
know that's the bigger brands that drive ratings, right, we
know it's the atmosphere and msg that all the things
that people want to see behind the scenes.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
And we've heard stories about this.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
We know people who are you in this business, who
are rooting for the New York Knicks to get there
or they're rooting for the.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Bigger market team.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
I mean, probably one of the biggest disgraces is in
the NFL, which is the top sport, that the Kansas
City So the ones that traded up took Patrick Mahomes.
It's not the New York Jets, New York Giants, it's not,
you know, one of those bigger, big markets, and instead
it's him in Kansas City.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
So you hear the stuff, but that's the truth.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
And I don't know that the officiating was quite as
bad this past game as it was in the.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
First game, but there is a bit of a balance.
I mean, obviously the.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
Pacers get got called more for a few more fouls,
and obviously go back to Game one, there's some atrocious
officiating in that one.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
So you can see a poll from the bottom of
the deck. There's some truth to that though. That was
a demoralizing loss. They they should have won that game.
I mean, he can put it on the referees, but
they should have won that game. They had the opportunity
to win it. They were playing a team that would
(04:53):
shorthand it their best player for an entire quarter. He
came back, wound it and still was spanking them. Uh,
one of their other guys and his his what hamstring
his booty cheek was was falling off during the game.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
I mean he was hurt. I'm blank. Was that og
at that? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:17):
Yeah, there can be no you can he can make
it about them being a small market team. He can
make it about the officials, and and he could be
very well accurate in what he's saying. But watching the game,
they could have won the game, and they should Like
(05:37):
complaining about what looked like a double dribble that wasn't
a double dribble, can't be you bitching and moaning about
officiating being skewed towards the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They did the right thing. They waved the call off.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
It was like so disappointed and frustrated in the car, like, dude,
it was a double dribble, like, get over it. I mean,
come on, y'all allowed to do come back. His foot
is banged up. He had the Sherman clump foot and
still was crossing y'all up and putting it in the hole,
(06:16):
like like, accept a loss and try to do something
to turn this into a series.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
Try to do something.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean, it is another layer of intrigue to the series,
because now I am curious to see I thought going
into this game that based on the complaints and the
awful calls, and I'm with Brady, I didn't think last
night's game was as bad as Game one. The calls
late in game one, the illegal screen were awful, like
they were terrible, So I thought there would be an
(06:45):
overreaction and an overcorrection by the officials, and there wasn't.
And so now after you hear Rick Kyler Carlisle go
that direction, I'm fascinated to see how this is looked
at in game three because those fans like what Carlisle's
done is see gas up the Indiana Pacer vans to
where they're going to complain and rip into the refs
(07:06):
any chance in any opportunity they get in game three,
and so I do like that he's added another layer
of intrigue to the series.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
So I was gonna say, like, you know what, i'd
the advice that i'd give these officials. You know, just
don't stay Indianapolis. When you go, like I, stay somewhere
like outside of it. I don't know, Tera Hoot or somewhere, you.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Know, somewhere like somewhat close French Lick. Maybe maybe not
far enough. That's all I know. I mean, you go
look at a map right now, Jonas LeVar.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
You guys pick some obscure, smaller town cities and you
stay at a holiday and express, all right, or you
stay fight maybe done Bloomington.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
They got a graduate hotel down there.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, that's a great call.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah, stay a graduate hotel somewhere down there, because I
know it's a little bit of a trek, but I
don't think you're going to be treated overly well if
they find out that you're part of the NBA officiating
crew with the way this series.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Has gone so far.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
French Lick to Indiana Indianapolis two hours, six minutes. That's
a one hundred mile drive.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Lovely, just French Lick.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, you know, I'm with you, good golf.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
Ma.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
There we weren't being yeah, we being then about French
earlier in the week though.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah, but it sounds good. That's I don't know if
it is. It sounds good though.
Speaker 6 (08:22):
You know, I'm just saying you you was, you was
holler in America earlier and on this this week. You know, well, yeah,
you're welcome, French lifting, you know, for all those.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Who sacrificed and and stepped up and defended France and
they needed to.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
Yeah, they're they're welcome.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
Why the hell would French Why how would French Lick
have good golf courses?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Is when you're not from the Midwest, you asked questions.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Like that when you grew up.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Me tell your entire life in Thousand Oaks.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Let me tell you.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
People say and ask questions like that because they've never
driven through the Midwest.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
They don't know how beautiful the Midwest can actually be.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
Who there's great opportunities to old golf courses, have resorts,
having to have a nice little hotel or maybe a
nice little lake with a bunch.
Speaker 4 (09:06):
Of attractions around. Disrespectful, it's coming. It's like one hundred
yards away the crazing.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Right when everybody knows that Monmouth, Illinois a French farmed.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
The table not like that, you know what they say,
Oh it's farm the table listenally just they got bought
it a farmer's market.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Let me go put on your table. Let me know
how you can smell the farm from the road.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Yeah, let me go ahead and put you guys up
on a little bit of game here French click to Monmouth, Illinois.
All right, everybody knows it's a straight shot on the
ice seventy four. Everybody knows that it's it's just under
a six six a six hour drive and you can
get there straight on the ice seventy four. Now if
you wanted to, you know, you could take the five,
the fifty nine to the seventy four, or you could
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take the sixty nine to the seventy four.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
We feel like Google maps. Are you talking of reading
them off? Is I kid idea?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I can't get Wi Fi in this studio and you
know that this is all just from the Midwest.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Or you can fly into Chicago and you know not
make your next flight and jump into a truck and
drive to Ohio Chicago.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, if you do have a medical issue, just you know,
take an uber all the way from Chicago to Columbus.
You know, there could be that.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
God was that when it was gout? Yeah? Man, how's
that bitness that under control? I heard nothing about it?
Hey you, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
So were I got a mad I got me a
mad boy, put that thing in check.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
The crazy thing about it was when you kept describing it.
I had a friend and and him and a sudden
listen to our show in the morning, especially when they're
driving a drop off, but he was going through the
same thing, and I'm like, man, this sounds so similar
to what LeVar is dealing with. And that's why I
was like, positive it was gout. I mean, I have
no medical background, but positive based on his account of what.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
It was that you were dealing with, gout Man, my
big toe was I had to Sherman like like how
like how Brunton had the Sherman clump foot. I had
the Sherman clump toe. I had the Sherman club ankle.
Oh man, I had a Brunton and didn't even play
no ball.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Oh I know.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Was when you had that walk on though it was
kind of that pipwalk. You know, you kind of had
that little lip to it, and I was like, all right,
it's kind of cool. Though, you could play this off.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
For a while.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
I went and got a scooter right after I left
you guys, I went to the game with a scooter.
My adrenaline was going so so high when I did
the big news. My adrenaline was going so high during
the game that I was walking normal. I walked normal
during the game. As soon as the game was over,
I couldn't walk. Couldn't walk, like literally couldn't put any
(11:43):
pressure on my foot.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Jonas well, I mean, I just think that's what being
around a guy like Rob Stone does to you.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
It could have been the Midwest are too though possibly
you know, hey, you know, I don't know. It could
have been the referees.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
If you're from the midwell, I'm blaming the refs, you
know what, my gout outright refs.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
You suck. It was interesting, he said, he'd you know,
after game one, which was atrocious towards.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
The end, Like he Recallo didn't want to blame the officials,
but it is cool to hear the entire process the
NBA goes through.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
I mean, I remember that we have that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
Process in the NFL, and we would go through plays
and they would assigned coaches to submit them in to
the NFL for officiating review, and they would come back
and just be like, yeah, we got that wrong, or
now you know that, this is why, this is the
rationale behind it. It's you know, somewhat subjective in this case.
So unfortunately like your you know, sol in this case.
(12:47):
But I find the process of it interesting because there
is no recourse. You're not getting the win back. Maybe
it draws attention for the officials, so next time around
there are more favorable towards you, I guess. But the
real factor would be if they got demoted. If you
find the officials, you know, for their inaccuracies.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Now that's to be.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
Hard to do because it's hard to find officials as
it is, but there's really no work around outside of
drawing attention to it. And exactly what you said, Jonas
to get you know, everyone in Indianapolis when they come
to the Great State of Indiana just absolutely all over
these officials to the point where they feel the pressure
to if it's controversial or maybe it's it could go
either way.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
Maybe they're actually calling it in the direction of.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
The Pacers' But you can see this in every sport
that there are, like who's it Angel Hernandez and baseball
the guys notoriously one of the worst umpires in baseball
and just still doing it. This is no like you
hear it from everybody. Guys awful, Like you know, Cowboy
Joe West was bad for years. He would get into
altercations with players and managers all the time over awful calls.
(13:59):
Nothing was done, And it's almost like there's this immunity
that you get when you're an official in sports to
where they're like, listen, we trust. As long as you
get like ninety five percent of the calls right, you're fine.
That's a passing grade. Even though you'll butcher a call
on the biggest stage, in the biggest moment, you don't
hear anything about it. And also to Rick Carlile when
he says, I found twenty nine calls or whatever he
(14:20):
found in Game one that I was going to report
to the league, Why didn't you, Like it's the playoffs, Like,
if it's that important to you, you should have reported
it and done something about it. But maybe he's at
the point to where he says, look, I don't know
what we can do. He thought it was going to
correct itself. It didn't, and now they're down two zero
in a hole. But you know, and Anobi's injured. Obviously
(14:41):
they've dealt with injuries. You know, Thibodeau's got those guys
playing forty eight I think it was Josh Hard who
said after the game, like, it doesn't matter what the
injury is, I'm playing forty eight minutes every game anyway.
So you know, it's we'll get to see what happens
in Game three for those Indiana Pacers. I mean, the
good news is, you know, if you ap yourselves in
this series and you get wiped out in four games,
(15:03):
at least Caitlyn Clark's in town to save the day.
So Indiana basketball is going to be fine.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Talk about that, talk about what the whole Caitlyn Clark
thing listening, you know, like just got you gotta be careful.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Whoa, whoa, I don't never mind.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, just you know, woh you're talking about the the
met Gala.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Metal Oh wow? No I wasn't. No, oh wow.
Speaker 6 (15:34):
So ye'all acting like a b Now that's that's that's
that's a bit.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
I'll just say this right now. I'll just say this,
Antonio Brown, had he dropped that at the roast, that
might have been right to the top of the list
on what everybody was talking about afterwards. You know what
he went to on social media. That was at least
he at least he stuck to his guns there, you know,
(15:59):
you really really doubled down and everything.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
So I think he likes her.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
I think he's trying to like it's like that old
school when he loves her. But when the kids are
young though, you know how, like your daughter comes home.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Like, oh, Daddy, like some little boy, like take me
in the shit or something.
Speaker 5 (16:17):
I'm like, well, that just means he likes you. Like
he doesn't know how to describe it or explain it.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
That just means he likes you. I think there's some
of those tactics there a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, makes sense. I mean, Antonio Brown, Caitlin Clark, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, We're all gonna be here. We're
all gonna be here until all the way up until
nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific. Albert Breer is
going to stop by maybe he's got some thoughts on
Midwest officiating. We can get to. We're gonna have another
edition of you anyway out as we close up shop,
(16:44):
and then later on this hour it's another edition of
In case you missed it, it's all yours here again
until we take you all the way up until nine
am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific coming up next here. Though,
somebody in the NFL threw out an idea. They threw
out an idea, and it's not a very good one.
I'll tell you why that is right here from the
tire rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (17:20):
Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb. The podcast is called All Ball.
We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's
more about the stories about what made these people love
their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.
We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell
you stories. You download it, you listen to it.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
I think you like it.
Speaker 7 (17:40):
Listen to All Ball with Doug Gottlieb on the iHeartRadio app,
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming
up in a little over twenty minutes from now from
the tire rack dot Com Studios. I've been wondering what
one franchise was going to do with a big, big
move coming up soon, and we finally have our answer.
We'll get into that for you again coming up here
(18:09):
a little over twenty minutes from now. Can I ask
you guys a question just kind of random?
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I was thinking about this sports stock Radio.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
Yeah, so okay, well, I mean, because it doesn't really
have much to do with sports, but I feel like
this is something that somebody's got to know the answer to.
On this show. Has the amount you get in return
for recycling cans and bottles gone down? Or is it
just me.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Because I go hold on, Do you go and take
a bag of recyclable items and return it to get
something back?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Okay you do? Yeah, yeah, you've never done in your
entire life. Okay, why do you ask questions like.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
This, I've never done that.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, are you serious?
Speaker 6 (18:52):
If you did, you would know to answer Jonas. No,
you kind of gave yourself away.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
No.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I took some recycling in and it had been a little.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
While, took it to where Jonas, we'll take it.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
To a recycling center in Thousand Oaks, California, Okay, Yeah,
And I took it and took some recycling in and
I ended up getting back like fourteen bucks, which you
know I was had in me. This is fourteen dollars
more than I had before. But I thought to myself,
you know, there's three bags here. Back in the day,
you could retire on three bags of recycling. Nowadays fourteen dollars.
(19:24):
And then the guy you know, was fourteen and ten cents.
So he did hand me the dime, which I appreciated,
which I kept, but I just wondered, has recycling gone down?
And maybe that money is being fun to get.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Here's what I know is from now on, every time
I give you a call, your ass better answer, or
if LeVar does or Lee does, because you are not
that busy, all right, given the fact that that's what
you're doing during the daytime.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What's wrong with recycling.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Nothing's wrong with it.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
I'm just saying you need to start answering the phone
because you sometimes make it seem like it's hard to
get a hold of it.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I mean, that's what you're doing in your free time. Man,
you are not that way.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Hey, listen, listen. You know I've got I got a
lot going on.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You're not.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
I got a lot going on.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
You really don't. That's when you're doing your free time. Bro,
you got way too much time do you have?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Do you have some information on recycling and whether or
not the prices have gone down on what you get back,
because it feels like it has.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
I feel the same way, jonas I. I used to recycle.
I quit doing that as well because it just wasn't
just it wasn't worth my time and effort.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
I thought that was what hobo is doing. They always
digging in the trash. I mean, now you guys want.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Food too, But do you not have a recycling service
that comes and picks up your recycling?
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Yeah? We do, but you can get money yourself back
for the cans.
Speaker 8 (20:38):
And when you drink like we do, you know you
might as well get a little shamey.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I think the problem is is that majority of what
I took in were plastic water bottles. My wife still
she doesn't get it that Listen, why are we Why
do you buy plastic water bottles? I walk around with
a forty ounce thermo flask Brady noses because I have
to be hydrated, you know, so I walk around a
forty ounce thermo flask, not a hydro. Some people like
the hydro. I'm more of a thermo guy myself, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Just tind to like trigger us.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
No, No, the point is is that it's trying to
wide me up. There's there's a lot of clearly there's
a lot of plastic bottles that are plastic water bottles
I take in, and apparently those don't get the return
that some of the other stuff does. You got to
go aluminum.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
Yeah, you get upset when you get to you know,
somebody brings a six pack of glass over. You're like,
no bottlenecks. You want know why didn't you get the cans?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Because you get more in return for the cans.
Speaker 8 (21:31):
Yeah, and the and the glass is a pain in
the ass, so you cans of glass.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
And inflation has not been a part of turning in recyclable.
Speaker 5 (21:42):
Technically it has because probably in order to keep that
facility open, inflation's hit obviously the workers, so the wages
have increased, which then.
Speaker 4 (21:51):
Have caused them to probably not.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
Give you back as much for those products, because otherwise
they couldn't afford to stay open and give you anything back.
But the way just have to pay the employs that
are there.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
See. I knew we could get the answer out of
Brady Financial Insighter on this show. I knew it. Recycling
NFL contracts. There's no stone unturned on this show. He's
got it covered. I knew it. See, I knew we
were going to get to the bottom of it. And
I also just think that how about you take a
little bit off what you can hand out for Mega
Millions and Powerball and throw it to the recycling center
so I can walk out of there with a Chris
(22:21):
twenty dollars bill and not fourteen dollars and a dime
in my pocket.
Speaker 9 (22:25):
I do have a suggestion for you, yes, sorry, if
you have containers that are twenty four ounces or larger
that you recycle instead of your regular soda cans, So
like Lea's Hefty babies over there, right, you get ten
cents back instead of five.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Boom, there you go, hey tall can thursdays lee.
Speaker 8 (22:44):
See, I got to find the place that goes by
the per unit. I just go by pound and buy
weight so they don't look at the twenty four ounces
versus twelve ounces.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah you really do? I mean, and then take that
really goes drink. There's more, there's more metals.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
There is more.
Speaker 8 (23:00):
I do well kind of, but I don't think like
the ten versus five.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, Oh my god, I can't even believe. I can't
even believe that you.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I can't either. I never in my life thought we'd
be talking about this right now.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
You've seen you've seen my truck.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
I've heard it all, but I have now officially heard
it all.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Let me tell you something. You've seen my truck that's
not used for valet.
Speaker 6 (23:23):
That's a recycling See if I had your true looks
like a recycled can.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
With wills, and I get fourteen dollars for it, and.
Speaker 6 (23:32):
You turned that bad boy, Yeah, you get fourteen dollars.
Dang FROMO.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
From So listen, you know we've cleared that up. I
think a lot of people were wondering the same thing
that are listening across there you go. There's a lot
of people that were listening anymore. There a lot of
people that were probably wondering what the plan is for
the NFL when they come up with this eighteen game schedule.
Speaker 6 (24:01):
The two recycling, I think, so center in every stadium,
you know, and encourage giving, you know, maybe it goes
towards their ticket price.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Great point, again, great point. I think these are all
great ideas that are being thrown out.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Maybe they should reuse the cans, you know, maybe your
cans that you bring. But I guess they'd be crushed though,
so never mind. Yeah, yeah, it's taking it a little
too far.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
That's all right. You're thinking though, and that's that's that's
part of the battle Joe Burrow was thinking. Joe Burrow
was thinking about the eighteen game schedule in the NFL,
the possibility of that, and he threw out an idea
because you know, the the hinting is that there's going
to be two bye weeks. Uh, this will probably be
coming up here within the next couple of years when
the NFL tries to really get this done. Joe Burrow said, listen,
(24:48):
you get your standard bye week. But he did have
an idea on the tail end of this quote about
what to do with the second bye week about you guys,
this sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 10 (24:57):
You know, eighteen games is definitely a big ask. That's
that's not easy. Adding that extra game, obviously it'd be
great for revenue, But I feel like adding that bye week,
if you're going to have the eighteen games schedule, is
pretty critical for our bodies because if you keep that
first bye week and then you know, some teams have
the bye week five, week six, and then you're going
twelve thirteen games in a row, that's not easy. Probably
(25:20):
a Thursday night game thrown in there too, so that's
never easy. So those two buys are are pretty critical.
Maybe you could do something like the first buy is
kind of how we have it now, and the second
by everybody has it at once, and you make it
like the Pro Bowl week or something like a like
an All Star break for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
I don't know, we'll see how it plays out. So
what do you guys think Pro Bowl week, second bye
of the season. Bodies torn up, Let's go hang out
for a week during the Pro Bowl instead of going
to be with our families.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
What do you think that gonna work. I mean, it
doesn't matter where you put the Pro Bowl. The days
of the Pro Bowl that LeVar was in an experience,
those are gone. I don't think you're ever going to
see those again.
Speaker 5 (26:01):
So I don't know why we keep trying to make
it or bring it back, because there's too much money
at risk. There's too much at risk for the players,
even the teams for that matter. And there's not gonna
be a focus on it if it's in the middle
of the season, if it's after the season, before the
super Bowl, there's just there's not a sense of seriousness
(26:21):
to it. So no matter how you go about doing it,
you're never gonna get what.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
LeVar was a part of.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
My only thought or idea would be, you try to
make this Senior Bowl a bigger event. It's already a
big event for scouting for teams, but you sell it
as the future stars of tomorrow and you get as
many great college football players blow it out.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Have it in.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
It could be in the super Bowl city, right, It
could be in the city that they're designating for the
Super Bowl. You could have it there during that off week,
and that would be kind of the precursor to the draft,
to the Combine, to all of that. For a lot
of NFL fans who yes, the biggest game of the
season is staring them dead in the eyes.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
But that's for two teams.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
You also have thirty other teams who are out of it,
and they're already thinking about the Draft, they're thinking about
the Combine, they're thinking about these things. So instead of
having it in Mobile, and I know that's gonna really
be crushing to Mobile's local economy. And they're gonna hate
me saying this. Jim Naga, I'm sure hates me saying this,
But that is the tweak that I think you could
get more engagement and potentially more people, you know, have
(27:32):
more eyes on to be a part of an event
like that, since you're selling the futures of tomorrow the
stars of today in the NFL. I don't know, correct
me if I'm wrong. Ar you played in it. You
were there three times. It's a great experience, But I
just I can't imagine guys gonna want to play in it.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
I like the idea of it. I mean, you got
all these opt outs. Let's take it a step further.
Why not making an all American Game and take the
best players from college like that, then do a game.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Yeah, see the best players, like the All.
Speaker 6 (28:04):
American team that's chosen, have them play a game during
like announce the Pro Bowlers because and do it during
the bye week, like like I love that, but do
it during the bye week. So it's a part of
the NFL, but it's not the NFL. You announce the
Pro Bowlers. The Pro Bowlers are in attendance, and or
(28:27):
maybe they're not, who knows. But you turn it into
a spectacle for the NFL. But it dovetails into kind
of or it touches into the college space. I think
that would be crazy too, because them dudes will be balling.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
They would be.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
Balling because basically, the Pro Bowl as it exists kind
of a waste of time. So at least make something
out of it.
Speaker 6 (28:50):
Right, Yeah, it's almost kind of you're making a mockery
of what it was. Where it's at right now, it's
a mockery of what it was. I'd rather not see
it at all. And you just say this used to be,
this is where the Pro Bowl used to be, Like
do something like that, announce the team. Here's here's where
when we used to have the Pro Bowl, you know,
(29:11):
show some highlights from past Pro Bowls and former players
and move on from it because what it is now
it's just I don't it's shenanigans.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
Well let's be clear too.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
There there came a point in time where it's gotten
to the point where the alternates that it's not as
creative the.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Honor as it used to be. M h.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
And I'm not saying that any derogatory way to anyone
who's made it, even as an alternate. But when you
guys were playing LeVar, it's like everyone played like there
weren't dudes really opted out. It was it was different.
It was like what it was designed to be, Like.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
The Brett Farves, like guys like that. They you know,
they would opt out, like some of the bigger names
or older guys, they would opt out. But for the
most part, man, everybody was trying to go like that was.
That was outside of the super Bowl. That was like
got to make the Pro Bowl. It's like super Bowl,
(30:08):
got to make super Bowl first round to make super Bowl.
If we're not making the super Bowl, I got to
make this Pro Bowl like that was, and you wanted
to play in it. Like I can recall working out
like it was in season as the season was ending,
because you were going to play in the play in
the Pro Bowl. So you know, I don't know it.
(30:30):
It isn't the same. And you know that's can I
be honest to you.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I think the NFL is really the person to blame
the most, and I hope everyone understands this. When they
left and stop going to a wife than you, it
changed the entire dynamic of what that trip was for
the players where I mean, I remember when dudes be going,
they'd be like asking you, Hey, you like what we'll
pay for you to come out?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You want to come out to bring you know, I'm
bringing so and so, like come on out.
Speaker 5 (30:58):
Like they were like paying for every everyone to go,
like not only their family, like they'd be paying for everyone,
like the whole crew. And I looked at it. I
was like, man, think about how much great of an
honor that is? And what I was always thought in
the back of my head was the players who are
getting incentives and they're getting paid to go, but they're
probably not even making money. They might be losing money
when it's all said and done. This trip is so
(31:19):
expensive and the NFL is probably losing money because this
trip is so expensive for all involved, and there's not
as much attention or focus on all that. And I
think the business model is what killed it. And I mean, look,
I'll be transparent. After going overseas to London, which you know,
witnessing a football matches, they would call it watching soccer
(31:41):
over there, I do get concerned about the element of
like capitalism coming into some of these leagues and just thinking.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Oh, we just throw a bunch of money.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
When I tried to drive drive revenue, drive revenue, drive revenue.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
There's some things that aren't about money.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
And that's the problem is like sometimes you know, when
you have a special event like that, you're not always
going to be able to maximize your profits. It might
be able to make a little bit, but it's an
honor to your players, it's an honor to like the
coaches and people around and had probably a great trip
for even some of the folks who are in the
NFL that are working. It as a bit of a
work slash vacation because it's more laid back, but it
(32:22):
was an honor and so a lot of times, like
a profit doesn't come with that and the problem is
because they got so focused on trying to make it
more profitable in this and that it lost its luster,
It lost.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
The allure of what it is. And now you don't
go to Hawaiian.
Speaker 5 (32:37):
Now you don't got you know, have guys, the best
guys going, and now they're opting out.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Now there's not even really a game.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
And I think it had a lot to do with that,
and look like compared to the soccer game, because there's
this element of just you know, fans. It doesn't matter
where the backgrounds you come from. In fact, some of
the closest seats to the field, to the pitches, they
would say are not necessarily the cheapest, but they're much
more affordable, and they're made that way because those are
(33:05):
going to be the most rackets fans. Those are gonna
be the fans that the ones they're like keeping back
with security and barricades, or when there's a goal scored,
people go nuts and they're trying to run on the field,
and that's how it should be. Like I kind of
hate the way stadiums are are made nowadays, where it's like.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
You don't get that anymore.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
It's like the people who are the most rowdy, most
loyal fans sometimes in the nosebleeds. So I know, I'm
gone my soapbox going off on a tangent on this,
but I think that's the blame for the death of
the Pro Bowl, and really like many other things as
far as like how we see the shape of sports
and what they're becoming right now.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Got to get back to Wahoo Baby. Got to get
back there. It's not there anymore, I know, but you
got to get back there.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
Yeah, literally might step on a nail if you go
back now.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Man, it's a heartbreaker.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
You know what's sad too, is you know Jonas used
to talk a lot LaVar about Kona Beer.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Now he never talks about them, you know, Big Wave.
He used to be the.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Shout out if they give me more back for recitaling.
Speaker 4 (34:02):
I would never talks about them anymore.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Ye, I mean they can happen.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
I mean, look, if you're all cans made the same.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I don't know which one is you talking about. I'm
just I'm trying to get to the bottom of this stuff.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Look, I figured out in the middle of my laugh.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
I was laughing because I was laughing, and I figured
out what you said, and then it and then it
became a different leg.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
Yeah, I mean that's it became. It's a whole nother,
whole other discussion. But yeah, listen to you know, I
still dabble, kind of fine, still dabble.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
But the answer is no.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Look, if you're if you're a sponsor this show, you
get a preferential treatment here on this show. And you know,
as soon as they want to jump in and jump
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that discussion. But until then, you know, keep quiet on
that stuff. Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here,
Fox Sports Radio coming up next here we are going
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Speaker 2 (35:44):
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sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
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Speaker 1 (35:53):
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Speaker 4 (35:56):
Lead.
Speaker 8 (35:58):
Lap Good Good morning, never By, Good morning Jonas, Good
morning Brady, good morning, LaVar. Morning guys. In casey missed this,
Thank you, LeVar.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
Guys.
Speaker 8 (36:07):
In casey missed this, we've talked about it. Utah, Well,
what used to be the Arizona Coyotes are now in Utah,
the NFL franchise, Hey Brady, Now the Utah NHL franchise
is going to go simply buy Utah, no nickname. They're
gonna let the fans decide. Uh, let them go ahead
and vote on it.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
They got twenty different names you could vote on, of course,
YETI the Blast, the Frost are among the favorites out there.
But what do you guys think of that that fans
are going to be picking the name?
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Don't I mean, did the fans pick the Commandos?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
I mean, did they pick the Jazz Jonas?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Just let you know.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Okay, oh my gosh, okay, yep, exactly, Okay, yep, Okay.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
There's two thoughts there for me. The first are they
just scared of picking a name and the backlash or
the frustration behind it.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
I mean it sounds like, typically like.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Ownership groups, they like to do a deep dive, a
deep study. They like to pull through some surveys, so
there is some crowd involvement into the decision, and they
like this, go with something that has a little more like,
you know, our full creative impact on this, I think,
instead of just presenting their fan base you know, a
few different options. It's not really I don't know, it's
(37:27):
not really taking as much responsibility for what you're putting
out there.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
But you're at the Utah Snow. We're at that, the
Utah Snow.
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Utah. They got Utah Glaciers, Utah.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Utaw Blizzard.
Speaker 8 (37:42):
No blizzard, there's the freeze glaciers there. Oh there is
a blizzard. Yeah, Utah blizzard. You top blast.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Confuse that with Dairy Queen too much.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, I think so. They probably have the copyright.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
I like the bunnies.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Snow. Yeah, that could work. Trademark, you know, snow bunnies.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
That that will work really well.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
I think experience now that I think about it as
well too. If you call him the Utah Snow, that
would kind of be taken away from the White Wrapper
from back in the day. You know, and I don't
know that you want to do that. There's a white
rapper named Snow back in the day. You guys don't know.
You didn't know it. First of all, you didn't know
that the jazz Can Yeah, that was him.
Speaker 8 (38:30):
The worst one by far is the Utah venom.
Speaker 1 (38:33):
Oh, that's the worst one. Back good, Which one do
you want?
Speaker 8 (38:41):
May come up?
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Utah Powder need some updates on that too, by.
Speaker 8 (38:46):
The way, Oh, updates coming.
Speaker 1 (38:49):
Okay, he's still alive. He's still alive.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
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