May 11, 2024 • 45 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Pros tear into Austin Rivers for claiming more NBA players could play in the NFL than vice versa. A suggestion for improving “Pro Bowl Week.” The Old P, Petros Papadakis says NBA players would get “broke off” in the NFL and it’s elimination nation in LA. Plus, Lee’s Cinco De Mayo weekend on the FSR IR.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Labar airings and Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox
on Fox Orts Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Did you guys hear?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And I wanted to get your your thoughts on this
because I know some people got really beat out of shape.
I know Chris Long was one of those people that
got really beat out of shape. A lot of people
got hot on social media because Austin Rivers was on
the Pat McAfee show starring AJ Hawk, and.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
There are some people who's fired some shots at Austin.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, and he had this to say when comparing the
NFL to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
We got to get you outside of that football lane, man,
where the guaranteed contracts are, where the best athletes in.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
The world are. That's us.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I could take thirty players right now in the NBA
and throw them in the NFL. You cannot thirty NFL
players to put him in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Whoa five on the court. Let's just let's all relax.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
You get a break every play. I got to just
catch them runs north south.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I mean, I'm with him.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
I the NBA here, I'll say this like he's not
entirely wrong. Like there's probably some guys you could play
tight end wide receiver dB. But like here, here's the
here's honestly why I think a guy like Austin Rivers
feels this way.
Speaker 8 (01:23):
This is this is what the league's done.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
They've made this sport all right, They've made this sport
soft to the point where like NBA players think that
they could go in there and and deal with that.
Like that's the truth is, like I would bet back
in the day and LeVar, I'm not trying to like
make you look like you played that much, you know,
further ahead of me, but even when I got in
(01:46):
the league, from when you were in the league, like
there was changes in all of that. But like they
don't allow hits like LeVar used to do back in
the day. And I'll promise you this, if NBA players
are still watching that, they would probably have a different opinion.
And the look, maybe I'm wrong because back then when
LaVar was playing, the NBA was playing a different style
(02:08):
of game. That's true, Like these young cats now wouldn't
last in the league because they'd be getting knocked around
by guys like Charles Oakley. So I think it's honestly
the fact that the NFL game has gotten to a
point where dudes really think, like, because the NBA game
is about skill now, like it's not as physical as
(02:28):
it used to be. And there's a bunch of reasons
we can get into and why that is. But there's
elements of that too. With a spread out as it
is in the NFL and the way the rules are
created now, where you get less physicality, and so you
get guys who don't know what that physicality is, like
thinking they could walk into another league because they're a
good athlete. So I'm not questioning as far as the athleticism,
(02:50):
there's no doubt. Well, my question would be the toughest.
There's no load management. When you take those hits. You
gotta take those hits. Like, how many of those guys
get Like if someone said the other day and we
were talking about this.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Like, well, you know NBA players, they don't really pads
and stuff, I go, yeah, I was like, there's a
reason for that.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
You know, if you want to compare this to driving
on the highway, right, all the games they played and
the minutes they play, that's great, but it's not the same.
You know, you'd be like, you know, you're talking about
playing in the NFL where you're taking constant car crashes
versus sitting in a gridlocked highway for four.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Hours, and that's it's just and apples don't or just comparison.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
So they've got great athletes, But the physicality, to me
is why I think we even have someone say something
like this or lack of roof.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
I just think it's It's interesting because most dope football
players while in high school get recruited. The recruiters come
to see them play two sports outside of football. It's
basketball and track. Yep, they'll come recruit you based off
of how you play basketball and how you perform in track,
(04:00):
whether it be shot putt discus the one hundred meters,
the two hundred meters, whatever that is. They're basing their
thought process off of that. So for him to say that,
I thought it was more of an ignorant comment. It
was it was just like it was cap like, it
wasn't like it wasn't I don't even know.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
That he believed that. I really he was right.
Speaker 9 (04:22):
About guaranteed contracts and stuff like that, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
Get with him on that.
Speaker 9 (04:28):
They have a whole lot more freedom there's a whole
lot more flexibility in basketball. You do have to play
offense and defense in basketball, so you have to translate
different skills. But I'll say this me being a basketball player,
because I was a basketball player first and my trajectory
was in basketball.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
You f around and find out when you like.
Speaker 9 (04:52):
There's dudes that play football that are basketball players. So
in that sense, when you're saying a basketball a football
player wouldn't be able to play basketball, you're it's it's
it's not true because you're playing football and nobody knows
you as a basketball player. But you probably there's probably
a ton and I mean a ton of guys that
(05:15):
are playing playing football that were very very gifted playing
basketball and could be like a They could be in
a rotation, they could be in a rotation of somebody's
team in the NBA, make no mistake about it. And
and maybe not, you know, maybe not a superstar, but
maybe so you just you just never know. I think
(05:37):
the best athletes, honestly, I think the best athletes play football.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
I really do.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
I've seen three hundred plus pound dudes do splits, backflips, tumble,
all kinds of different things that you would not believe
they're they're capable of doing. It's like the grizzly beer
versus you know, a cheetah or something like that, right, Like,
like I could see that that cheetah fast, but you
ain't realize that that grizzly bear can run fast as
(06:04):
l two. They get up to thirty miles per hour
when they run. You see that beer walking down the street.
I always say, you see that beer walking down the street.
You see that tiger walking down the street, that lion
walking down the street.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
He looks so docile, he looks like he, Oh, look.
Speaker 9 (06:18):
At that fat ass beer walking down the street, Like
da da da, all Right, mess around and find out.
Like that's what I would say to that statement that
basketball players could go in. Yeah, sure, put a basketball
player out wide receiver, because even if I'm saying put
put a green and a basketball player that's never played
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football on a football field to play tight end, they're
not making it. They're not making it in there. They're
not making it unless you split him out, they're not
making it. So unless you're talking about putting a basketball
player at receiver, that's really the only position that I
could honestly say you could justify Yep, he could transition
(07:02):
from being that to this. Like they were talking about
the kid that played for NC State this year, the
big thick dude that's like three hundred pounds and he's
like six seven to six ' eight or whatever it is,
and they're like, if it doesn't work out for him
in basketball, like, send him on over to football. It
would take a really long time for that young man
(07:24):
to acclimate and understand what it would need to be
for him to be a tackle in the National Football League.
It would take a ton of time and a tremendous
learning curve, and not to mention, he would have to
figure out how to handle the physicality of what takes
place in football. It's just not as simple as, oh,
(07:47):
they're great athletes. They can run, jump and dunk and
shoot three pointers and dribble through their legs and their
footwork and all this other stuff. It's a very different approach,
a very different way of how things work in football. So,
while I'm not going to diminish how athletic you have
to be playing basketball, and how athletic that that game
(08:09):
and that sport is, and how diverse it is and
the things you have to do football is equally diverse,
even by position by position. Like we're not just talking
like running up and down a court and running and
all that. And like he said, you run, you stop,
you try to run the ball. Like there's people dumbed
down what football is. But it is a very complex.
(08:30):
It's a very intricate, very intricate game. And that's why,
that's why you'll never hear anybody militarily refer to basketball.
And in the military. You know what military refers to football.
You know what football refers to the military, because it's
much more grueling, it's a much more sophisticated approach to
(08:52):
what's taking place than than pretty much any other sport.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I couldn't do either. So you you said's can
argue about that all you want. Yeah, listen, I just
stand on the outside looking at everything.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Yeah, y'all saw my boy chop drinking his caprice.
Speaker 10 (09:07):
How he was waiting to get draft those back?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now does he anywhere?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Does he pop the straw on the top or just
go bottom pouch, because sometimes it's easier just to pop
the caprice sun straw in the bottom of the pouch
as supposed to trying to line it up in that
hole in the top, you know what I mean, Just
squeeze it. Do one little squeeze and then you're good. Also,
cherry is the best Caprice sun flavor in my mind.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
I like the citrus one. Yeah, CRUs is my favorite.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There's no there's no way those things are good for you.
There's just no possible way. I mean, you could leave
those in a box in a bomb shelter for thirty
years and then open them back up and they taste
exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Just doesn't feel like it would be good.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Lee, which is your Caprice unflavor of choice? You had
to go with one? Tropical punch Okay?
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Oh wow over here?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I think sometimes they call it tropical tide. It's
been a long time, yeah, lons Aire.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, well, I get yourself a Caprice and because apparently
has he got a sponsorship.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
I mean you should get one after that, Yeah, you
should get one.
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Speaker 3 (11:05):
Joe Burrow was thinking about the eighteen game schedule in
the NFL, the possibility of that, and he threw out
an idea because you know, the hinting is that there's
going to be two bye weeks. This will probably be
coming up here within the next couple of years when
the NFL tries to really get this done. Joe Burrow said, listen,
you get your standard bye week. But he did have
an idea on the tail end of this quote about
(11:26):
what to do with the second bye week. By you guys,
this sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 12 (11:30):
You know, eighteen games is definitely a big ask. That's
not easy. Adding that extra game obviously it'd be great
for revenue, But I feel like adding that bye week,
if you're going to have the eighteen games schedule, is
pretty critical for our bodies because if you keep that
first bye week and then you know, some teams have
the bye week five, week six, and then you're going
twelve thirteen games in a row, that's not easy. Probably
(11:53):
a Thursday night game thrown in there too, so.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
That's that's never easy.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So those two buys are pretty critical.
Speaker 12 (11:59):
Maybe you could do something like the first buy is
kind of how we have it now, and the second
by everybody has it at once, and you make it
like the Pro Bowl week or something like a like
an All Star break for the NBA. I don't know,
we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So what do you guys think Pro Bowl week, second
bye of the season, bodies torn up, Let's go hang
out for a week during the Pro Bowl instead of
going to be with our families.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
What do you think that ain't gonna work? I mean,
it doesn't matter where you put the Pro Bowl. The
days of the Pro Bowl. That LeVar was in an experience.
Those are gone.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I don't think you're ever gonna see those again.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
So I don't know why we keep trying to make
it or bring it back, because it's there's too much
money at risk. There's too much at risk for the players,
even the teams for that matter, and there's not gonna
be a focus on it if it's in the middle
of the season, if it's after the season, before the
super Bowl, there's just there's not a sense of seriousness
(12:55):
to it.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
So no matter how.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
You go about doing it, you're never gonna get what
LeVar was a part of. My only thought er idea
would be you try to make the Senior Bowl a
bigger event. It's already a big event for scouting for teams,
but you sell it as the future stars of tomorrow
(13:18):
and you get as many great college football players blow
it out.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Have it in.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
It could be in the super Bowl city, right, It
could be in the city that they're designating for the
super Bowl. You could have it there during that off week,
and that would be kind of the precursor to the draft,
to the combine to all of that. For a lot
of NFL fans who yes, the biggest game of the
season is staring them dead in the eyes.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
But that's for two teams.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
You also have thirty other teams who are out of it,
and they're already thinking about the draft, they're thinking about
the Combine, they're thinking about these things. So instead of
having it in Mobile, and I know that's gonna really
be crushing to Mobile's local economy.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
And they're gonna hate me saying this.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Jim Nag, I'm sure hates me saying this, but that
is the tweak.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I think you could get more engagement and potentially more people,
you know, have more eyes on to be a part
of an event like that, since you're selling the futures
of tomorrow the stars of today in the NFL. I
don't know, correct me if I'm wrong. More you played
in it, you were there three times. It's a great experience,
but I just I can't imagine guys gonna want to
play in it.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
I like the idea of it. I mean, you got
all these opt outs. Let's let's take it a step further.
Why not making an all American game and take the
best players from college I like that, and do a game.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Yeah, we see the.
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Best players, like the all American team that's chosen, have
them play a game during like, announce the Pro Bowlers
because and do it during the bye week, like like
I love that, but do it during the bye week.
So it's a part of the NFL. But it's not
the NFL. You announce the the Pro Bowlers. The Pro
(14:58):
Bowlers are in attendance, or maybe they're not, who knows.
But you turn it into a spectacle for the NFL.
But it dovetails into kind of or it touches into
the college space. I think that would be crazy too,
because them dudes will be balling.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
They would be balling because basically, the Pro Bowl as
it exists kind of a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So at least make something out of it.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
Right, Yeah, it's almost kind of you're making a mockery
of what it was. Where it's at right now, it's
a mockery of what it was. I'd rather not see
it at all. And you just say this used to be,
this is where the Pro Bowl used to be, Like,
do something like that, announce the team, here's where when
we used to have the Pro Bowl. You know, show
(15:45):
some highlights from past Pro Bowls and former players and
move on from it because what it is now it's
just I don't it's shenanigans.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Well let's be clear too, they came a point in
time where it's gotten to the point where the ulternates
that it's not as creative the.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Honor as it used to be.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
And I'm not saying that any derogatory way to anyone
who's made it, even as an alternate. But when you
guys were playing LeVar, it's like everyone played like there
weren't two is.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Really opted out. It was. It was different.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
It was like what it was designed to be, Like
the Brett Farves.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Like guys like that.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
They you know, they would opt out, like some of
the bigger names or older guys, they would opt out.
But for the most part, man, everybody was trying to
go like that was. That was outside of the Super Bowl.
That was like got to make the Pro Bowl. It's
like super Bowl, got to make super Bowl first round
to make super Bowl. If we're not making the Super Bowl,
(16:47):
I got to make this Pro Bowl like that was,
and you wanted to play in it, like I can
recall working out like it was in season as the
season was ending, because you were going the playing the
Pro Bowl, so you know, I don't know it. It
isn't the same, and you know that's.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Can I be honest too, I think the NFL is
really the person to blame the most, and I hope
everyone understands this. When they left and stop going to
a why thank you, it changed the entire dynamic of
what that trip was for the players where I mean,
I remember when dudes be going, they'd be like asking you, hey, you.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Like what we'll pay for you to come out?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
You want to come out to bring the you know
I'm bringing so and so.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Like come on out.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Like they were like paying for everyone to go, like
not only their family, like they'd be paying for everyone,
like the whole crew. And I looked at it, I
was like, man, think about how much great of an
honor that is? And what I was always thought in
the back of my head was the players who are
getting incentives and they're getting paid to go, but they're
probably not even making money. They might be losing money
when it's all said and done. This trip is so
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expensive and the NFL is probably losing money because this
trip is so expensive for all involved, and there's not
as much at ten focus and all that, and I
think the business model is what killed it. And I mean, look,
I'll be transparent. After going overseas to London, which you know,
witnessing a football matches, they would call it watching soccer
(18:15):
over there, I do get concerned about the element of
like capitalism coming into.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Some of these leagues and just thinking, oh, we'll just
throw a bunch.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Of money'm gon, I try to drive drive revenue, drive revenue,
drive revenue.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
There's some things that aren't about money.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
And that's the problem is like sometimes you know, when
you have a special event like that, you're not always
gonna be able to maximize your profits. You might be
able to make a little bit, but it's an honor
to your players, it's an honor to like the coaches
and people around and had probably a great trip for
even some of the folks who are in the NFL
that are working. It as a bit of a work
slash vacation because it's more laid back, but it was
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an honor and.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So a lot of times, like a profit doesn't come that.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
And the problem is because they got so focused on
trying to make it more profitable on this and that
it lost its luster. It lost the allure of what
it is, and now you don't go to Hawaiian. Now
you don't got you know, have guys, the best guys going,
and now they're opting out and now there's not even
really a game.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
And I think it had a lot to do with that.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
And look, I compared to the soccer game, because there's
this element of just you know, fans. It doesn't matter
where the backgrounds you come from. In fact, some of
the closest seats to the field, to the pitches, they
would say are not necessarily the cheapest, but they're much
more affordable. And they're made that way because those are
going to be the most rackets fans. Those are going
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to be the fans that the ones they're like keeping
back with security and barricades, or when there's a goal scored,
people go nuts and they're trying to run on the field.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And that's how it should be.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Like I kind of hate the way stadiums are are
made nowadays.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Where it's like you don't get that anymore.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
It's like the people who are the most rowdy, most
loyal fans sometimes in the nosebleeds. So I know, I'm
gone my soapbox going off on a tangent on this,
but I think that's the blame for the death of
the Pro Bowl and really like many other things as
far as like how we see the shape of sports
and what they're becoming.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Right now, got to get back to Wahoo Baby, Gotta
get back there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's not there anymore, I know, but you got to
get back there.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Literally might step on a nail if you go back now. Man,
it's not there.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
A heartbreaker.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
What's sad too, is you know Jonas used to talk
a lot LaVar about Kona Beer.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Now he never talks about them, you know, Big Wave.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
He used to give them the shout out if they
give recital. I would never talks about them anymore. I mean,
they can happen. I mean, look, if you're all cans
made the same, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Which one is you talking about. I'm just I'm trying
to get to the bottom of this stuff.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Look I figured out in the middle of my laugh.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
I was laughing because I was laughing, and then I
figured out what you said and it and then it
became a different leg Yeah, that's it became Fun's.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
A whole nother, whole other discussion.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But yeah, listen to you know, I still dabble kind
of beers fine, still dabble, But the answer is no. Look,
if you're if you're a sponsor of this show, you
get a preferential treatment here on this show. And you know,
as soon as they want to jump in and jump
on board and join the party, yeah we can have
that discussion. But until then, you know, keep quiet on
that stuff.
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Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's happening.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Good morning, Hello, good morning, hell Hello, the old pe.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Petros.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Your thoughts on Austin Rivers Uh making the comparison between
NBA and NFL players and saying that he could find
thirty NBA players to play in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right now, how does that.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Thirty guys to get broke? The f off.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
That's it that dropped the mic.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
It's I am a look, where should we start? Is
there even one guy in the NBA who could be
quote unquote thrown into the NFL? And anybody who suggests
Lebron Lebron doesn't want to get hit and his football
window closed at twenty nine to thirty. I mean, Tony
(22:39):
Gonzalez and Antonio Gates and Julius Peppers were football players first,
and they moonlighted in basketball, and they were like Claude
hoppers on the basketball court, and they were great football
players and graceful and ballet like. Jimmy Graham was a
college basketball player who played his first organized football I
(23:00):
think as a fiftyear senior in college, and he tried
football because he was only scoring five points per game
in the NBA or you know, in the college. He
wasn't he had no NBA future. So where are these
thirty guys. Which guy is one of your thirty guys, Austin?
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Who could do it?
Speaker 13 (23:19):
Who's gonna put their hand in the ground and put
a helmet on and get bunked around? Listen, basketball players
are amazing athletes. The NBA players are probably the best
athletes top to bottom in the world. And I never
thought this growing up. I mean, obviously I grew up
(23:39):
thinking Michael Jordan's the greatest player of all time and
all that. But until you get on to an NBA
court and watch NBA players like really up close, you
really get an idea for A, it's a very physical
game compared to what you thought if you're right down
there in the way they even during the regular season.
And b there's no fat on these guys, like there's
(24:02):
nothing to their their bodies. You know, if if an
NBA player has a gut, it's it's news, like James
harden right. I mean, they go up and down the court,
up and down, up and down, and they also go
up and down, up and down like pogo sticks. It's
not the first jump a lot a lot of the
time that's impressive. It's the second jump or the third.
(24:24):
And I was really impressed by it. And I was
really also impressed by their ability to fight through fatigue, right,
just just to go up and just burn it all
out like a hockey shift kind of thing. But toughness
as far as being physically bludgeoned, no, no, they'd all
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be broken.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
They don't have the sand in their ass.
Speaker 13 (24:50):
So so Austin Reeves like like, and he was a
tough it's Austin reveris sorry Austin Reeves. But that proves
the point Austin and reasons we get broke. Austin Rivers
was a tough guy when he played, right, Remember he
got hit in the face and he was bleeding at
the end of that playoff game or whatever. He's a
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tough guy. He was a great basketball player in high
school and college. Right, it's not fair to compare him
to Brownie James or anything like that. He was he
was quite literally an All American legitimately. But this is
I mean, these guys say this stuff, so everybody's got
to react to it, right, And I feel so stupid
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because you know, you fall right into the trap of reaction.
But you guys asked me about it, So you know,
where's the thirty guys, Where's who do we got?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Who's number one? Who's number one to get broke off?
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Because so to that point, though, like when I hear
a player like that say that, and especially a guy's
a little younger.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
We had those guys at USC on the basketball team,
sure like sure, like ten games under five hundred, like, oh,
we could do what y'all do. It's like, okay, come
on out, then come and do our forty play run
drail a hole?
Speaker 7 (26:06):
Does some of them have to do with the fact
that they look at the NFL now and they don't
see the vicious types of hits in plays.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
That it used to be. Like I suppose they don't
see them. They don't see the dues being paid physically
in their most extreme way, right, but those dues are
still paid. You just don't.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You know, we don't have the you got aft up,
you know and all that.
Speaker 13 (26:29):
But you're right, Brady, I mean, you know and and
and I'll take it from you because of your linebacker
and tied end neck roll days in high school, thank you.
But I mean what the rules we used to play
under are not the rules we play under now. And
obviously you guys speak to that better than I can,
But we don't play under those rules.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
I get that.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
But you're still not getting off the line of scrimmage.
You know, mister six foot seven is not getting off
the line of scrimmage at all. Ever, And you know,
part of the the whole physical playing in the box
and outside the box and all that stuff. We've talked
about this before, but there's a reason that wide receivers
and dbs talk to each other the way they do that.
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They because they don't pay their dues the same way.
And when I say dbs, I mean corners and nickel
corners and guys like that, you know, not your Troy Polamalu,
Steve Atwater types. But they they can talk like that
and act like a holes like that and taunt each
other like that, even more so now because the rules
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have changed so dramatically. Inside the box, everybody knows they're
gonna get got and talking like that is not helpful
to me at least. So there are different nuances of
how you get beat up as a football player as well.
And all these guys think they're going to play out
on the edge, and anyway, it was up to me,
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I'd get rid of all the wide receivers. I'd just
go like Jim Harbaugh and play with four tight ends.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
You go, makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 13 (28:11):
I'd make an extra tight end one of the old linemen,
and then three other tight ends.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
One of them is like a full back type. So
that's it. Abolish the position.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Somebody also threw up football players and basketball players wouldn't
be able to play baseball, and that baseball is this
and that. To me, I would say, that's more so
more relevant. You're not going to just throw somebody on
a pitcher's mound, or you're not going to just go
up and hit a fastball. That's a ninety mile mile
proud fastball.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
That's a hand eye thing.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Right.
Speaker 13 (28:42):
We all think about Michael Jordan and that image of
him striking out looking all long and gangly and goofy
on a baseball field, but law, you know, and that
was it was heartbreaking for us. I mean when you're
a kid and it's not like, I mean I loved
Michael Jordan, but I am not from Chicago or anything
like that. I was just another front runner like every
other American white kid or whatever in suburbia. And Michael
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Jordan never missed. I mean he never lost. He never
I mean he did. He lost those series before he
started winning the finals. The one he beat the Lakers
in the early nineties was how it started. But like,
it was really humiliating to see Michael Jordan try to
do something else and fail so miserably. I mean, it
was an innocence lost moment for a lot of America's
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youth when he was out there.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Striking out like oohoo.
Speaker 13 (29:32):
You know, but baseball is a double sided cutlass as well, right,
because in baseball you have to be separated hand eye
coordination wise pretty early, and then you have to develop
whatever kind of power if you're a hitter. And there's
some stories out there like Evan Longoria and guys like that.
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They're few and far between, but you know, guys that
were not big prospects JC rout leagues and then suddenly
they become pretty special. But baseball players, I think they
get identified pretty young and it's a really difficult road.
And what's funny to me is, you know where I live,
it's a relatively affluent area, and it's a bunch of
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just guys that have kids that are just really average
looking white.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Kids and adding to get you though, but they do.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
But the fact that every one of these dads because
the kid can't pass the eyeball test as a football
or basketball player. And that is the difference with football
and basketball. If you're an elite sixteen year old football
player and you walk in to the room looking like
Edward Grimley or something. People are not going to believe
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you're a football player baseball. You could look like a
dork and be a great baseball player or not physically imposing.
You know, Mookie Betts is not a big guy. Trey
Turner is not a big guy.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Pass them and not even know who they are.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Some of them.
Speaker 13 (31:02):
Yeah, you know, I mean Pedroia, you know these guys
that come to mind, David Eckstein, you know, overachiever guys.
All of these stupid ass rich dads think that their
son is that one guy, and the truth is he's not.
There's some dude in the Dominican with a milk carton
for a glove that.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
That that's that guy.
Speaker 13 (31:20):
But you know, buy your son a fifteen hundred dollars bat,
you know, play three hundred days a year, spend all
your weekends in Lancaster and Bakersfield and just die on
the vine. And by the time your kid's twelve and
he gets the first cent of a female's attraction, he's
going to throw the bat into the pool. You know,
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he's gonna throw his two thousand dollars compat posit bat.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Jacuzzi. You know I know that.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Yeah, oh god, The whole youth sports thing is amazing
because most of it, even at the AAU level where
guys are competing for scholarships, is a scam made to
fleece the parents and ruin everybody's weekend and have people
not learn to be children. And my message is this,
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just because you can play all year does not mean
you should, right, you know, I mean baseball the one
great thing about football, And in a perfect world, I'm
quite aware even if the rules have changed that in
a perfect world, football would not exist. But the one
great thing about football at least is at the end
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of the season, they take our pads and we don't
go play all year long. We can't. You know, you
never play football again. When you're done playing football. You
don't hire a ref and a chain gang and go
to camp for two weeks and buy uniforms and rent
out a communication equipment for the booth and the side.
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I mean, you just don't do it. And these other
sports are are different, and I think people become more
delusional the more they play.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Hey, Petros, who's in a worse spot. The Lakers are
the Clippers right now?
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Can I punt?
Speaker 13 (33:16):
We are elimination nation here and he's gonna say. I mean,
the Clippers are out because the Charles Barklay line was great.
You know, I've been rich, I've been poor, I've been fat,
I've been skinny. The Clippers have always sucked. He's right,
you know, and I kind of like the Clippers over
the years. But he's right, And I really just like
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the Clippers more because I despise the Lakers. But that
doesn't mean I like the Clippers anyway. They're both done.
I mean the Lakers are being run shadow run by Lebron.
He's laying low because he just fired his sixth coach
in his NBA career.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
I believe his was that just.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
I mean, you follow the Lakers, probably even close to
than we do. I mean, was that one?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
No? No?
Speaker 13 (34:02):
I mean, well why was he hired in the first place.
I mean, look, I can't. I'm not Nick Wright, the
squidward nos guy on TV who talks about this like constantly.
But isn't it pretty clear to everybody that it's not
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that cool to be around Lebron. He gets you fired,
and if you have success, it's because he's great, and
if you don't, it's your fault. I mean, players, coaches,
who wants to be around that, you know, and JJ Reddick,
perhaps the most condescending dogmatic person in the history of television,
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is going to somehow come to the Lakers and talk
down to these guys and never have coached before. I mean,
and do a podcast with Lebron talking about wine. I mean,
you know, I mean, I guess financially it helps them
just to sell the whole thing to Lebron and not
have to run your friend franchise for as long as
Clutch Sports is sitting in the chair there. But it
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certainly is an ugly look from the outside, even with
all the Lebron minions in the media running around.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
And trying to help him.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
He just fired a coach, so he's not going to
do anything for attention for another five.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Or six days. But his head will pop up again.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
And you know, he'll be doing some wine.
Speaker 13 (35:20):
Tasting or something about for attention, like he always does.
The Clippers have a new stadium opening up in Englewood
with a bunch of toilets American standard stadiums and or arena.
Excuse me, the King's just got us swept or blown
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out of the playoffs by the Edmonton Oilers, so they're
all drunk running around the South Bay right now.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
Are they at that bar? Manhattan Beach doesnt beach one? Right?
Speaker 13 (35:54):
No, it's the bar, oh the Strep please, the bar
that the hockey guys hang out with is. It's a
dive bar and it's on It's in her Moosa, right
on the border of Hermosa and Manhattan Party. When I
was a kid, it used to be called Critters, but
now it's called North End. Is in the north end
of Hermosa and it's really close to the old nine
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o two one oh house on the beach where the
girls lived when they were in college.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
If you remember that.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's a sweet spot. P you should do a remote
from there. You and Matt at Critters at North End
or Critters whatever.
Speaker 13 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean it's a dive bar. It's it's not
offensive like the Strand House, which is offensive. A bunch
of called douchebags. Levarang Am I a d bag? No,
you're you're an anomaly from out of town. Okay, you
know you show up and it's like her, there's LeVar Arrington.
If you wants to play pickleball with us.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
No, I don't do that would make me a d
bag if I did pickleball, I don't play pickleball.
Speaker 13 (36:51):
Send send some of the octopus tempo over to LaVar's table.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
It's really good. They got some really good food there. Pee.
Speaker 13 (37:03):
I know I don't go to Manhattan Beach anymore. LeVar,
you know why why? Because I'm from here. I get
I get it. I was just that deal, I understand.
Does that get tough living?
Speaker 8 (37:14):
Uncle?
Speaker 13 (37:14):
Uncle Bill's has a has an old Papadaka's tavern a
plate on the wall from my dad's old restaurant, Nice Greek.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
Is that the one O J autographed?
Speaker 8 (37:26):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (37:26):
Wow, Well we didn't collect OJ's autographs, Okay, okay, some
of his exes.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That's fair.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
Uh, pe Dad, Why did OJ go to the bathroom
twenty times during dinner?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Shut up?
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Get a little bump?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
What's he doing in the bathroom with Jim Lampley? Shut
them all?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
I get a little bump. He got a little bump.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Well, I just want to do a gummer what.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Listen, pe Uh? The Dodgers are back. They're rolling.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yes, everybody's excited, and they just had Star Wars night
and intentionally, as you laid out on the radio, did
it on a Monday, because why spoil a Star.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
Wars night when there's an actual good team in town.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, they had it Saturday, right, Yeah, Well they had it,
didn't they have it?
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Sunday?
Speaker 13 (38:21):
May the fifth was single to Miles, So they had
the Braves in town, Big series weekend, everybody's there.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
So they did Star Wars Night on Monday night because
the Mars Fish came into town.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, Brady's Marlin.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
But some are saying that that's, you know, the revenge
of the sixth.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
Hits on the very first pitch a home run? What
was it? That game.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Was against the Buller's Dodgers.
Speaker 13 (38:46):
Walker Bueller's back uh and uh Otani is the best
hitter in the world. But I will say this without
being sarcastic and annoying like normal.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
The Dodgers are always this way.
Speaker 13 (38:59):
They're always front running and seven thousand games ahead, and
it's been this way.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
They get to the playoffs and lose in the first round.
Very frustrated.
Speaker 13 (39:09):
But the year is like a huge like giant Boner
parade the entire season. But this is an extra extra
priapism this year because of the first three guys in
the lineup that that is I gotta admit watching the
games living here, that is fun to watch when you
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have Bets come up, and then Otani and then Freeman
and then the rest of the guys are pretty good too.
Will Smith and guys like that. Pretty darn impressive to
watch that in the night out, I'll.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Say that, Well, you're pretty impressive, Pee at the old
p on Twitter.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Only because it's early, you guys are easily impressed.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No, how was.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
That Kentucky Derby? I didn't say it, though, Pee, I
wasn't agreeing with Jonas. I was just listening to appreciate you.
But you are my guy, though.
Speaker 13 (39:58):
How was that Kentucky Derby guy I got bumped for
last week? He was a real stiff.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, Lee, it was Art Rooney's grandson.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Well, what's who's coming on next week?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I don't know, ask Lee Rooney Borrow.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, Pee, we appreciate it. Let's we'll do it again
next week. Wednesday is your day. We promise we won't
let Lee steer us away from that.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
Tell him to keep farting up a storm.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah it is after your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
So it's time to get the s r IR report.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
All right, I.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Mean Lee's on io right now, Lee, come on, Lee
spilled the beans all right?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
What uh? What was this weekend entail? Because you just
you sent over a video. I sent over a lot
of videos, only something we could talk about.
Speaker 10 (40:55):
H So you saw the band Sugar Ray this week?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I did see Sugar Ray this weekend at the yuh
I can say it Saint Francis de Sales Uh Fair.
It's the best little fair in the valley. I go
there every year.
Speaker 8 (41:09):
Is it a school?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
It looks like a nice stage.
Speaker 14 (41:11):
I mean it doesn't look like it's cheaply done or anything.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
School.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
It is a school. It's a middle school as goes
all the way to eighth grade. But I have a
lot of friends who went to so Fts.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
They all played.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I have good bands that played there. Hold on a second, yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You went to a middle school fair, Yes, and so
did Sugar Ray.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
There's just like a whole lot of wrong there. It's
a whole lot of wrong. What I go there?
Speaker 14 (41:41):
What's a whole bunch of eighth grader, seventh grader, sixth
graders there?
Speaker 8 (41:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they stay on the.
Speaker 10 (41:48):
Yeah yeah, what they're in class?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (41:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Man, you know, I don't have little I don't have siblings.
It's weird. I don't like kids. They sure booze you
have a deliver? Do they serve booze? They like give
they trophy?
Speaker 14 (42:05):
This same strange man, this same is very strange, very odd.
The last year I walked home. Yeah, did you see
the al Paco? How you were on your way?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
A hey, Eddie, Which part of that story do you
find most alarm?
Speaker 14 (42:21):
Man faces telling the whole entire story, because I'm on
the same page.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Is that Sugar Ray was playing in a middle school
fair that there.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Honestly, I'm going Sugar Ray right, be right? What do
you think they make for that gig?
Speaker 8 (42:36):
Like?
Speaker 10 (42:36):
How many people were there? You probably donate the performance?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
We actually they actually set a number. It's over a
thousand people. A thousand people. How much you're paying to
get in?
Speaker 8 (42:47):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Nothing?
Speaker 9 (42:48):
Yeah, he probably just did it to kind of prepare
for a tour or something.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't know if his kids go there or he
went there or whatever, but they think he's a regular there.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
He's a regular in the middle school fair. Yeah, it's
the whole band or is it just Mark McGrath. This
band has been together for ten years. So it's not
the original Sugar Ray. But I mean they kill it,
they rocket, they have a good time. I mean, I'm showing.
They sold over ten million records, four top ten.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Songs, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Hundreds and millions of streams, tickets sold. I mean, they
were one of the bigger bands in like on the planet.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I forgot how many bangers they had. They have some bangers. Man,
let's not get carried away here.
Speaker 14 (43:29):
I mean, come on, you know they definitely have spring
break anthems.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
You put it on, you're singing to it.
Speaker 10 (43:36):
I mean I'm not personally but you but you know it.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like and
apparently now middle school kids know it too.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
That was actually what we're.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Talking about, was like probably mostly most of these kids.
Most of these kids probably don't even.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Know to spread Now what is on the menu though?
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Is it just beer and wine or oh no, that
then everything? Of course. I went with my chili dog
and chili fries. I had pizza pizza slice. I mean,
I'm an chicken chicken bowl from the ear. Bowls are
going crazy. They called the Asian the Asian the Asian
bowl stand. That's literally what it's called.
Speaker 14 (44:23):
It's not in your belly right now, you know how
you you ever hear an empty ice machine, you ever
get scared.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
We're just like at home alone and they're like, what
what was that? It was the ice machine? Yeah, belly?
Oh that means that that must mean I had a
lot of ice here today.
Speaker 14 (44:44):
No, that means you're out of ice, but you're full of.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
I mean so what what what drinks were at.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
The middle What did you drink?
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Everything?
Speaker 8 (44:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I p a easy breezy uh anything hard? No, they
didn't have the heart. I had to have my flask
on me for the in your flask tequila? Dude, see
you Tomo?
Speaker 8 (45:07):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
What what was it? Was it brown? Was its blanco?
What was it?
Speaker 8 (45:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Repissente, repissideide?
Speaker 10 (45:14):
All right, you brought a flash to a middle school
with sugar ray
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Place with eight graders walking around Oka
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Labar airings and Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox
on Fox Orts Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Did you guys hear?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
And I wanted to get your your thoughts on this
because I know some people got really beat out of shape.
I know Chris Long was one of those people that
got really beat out of shape. A lot of people
got hot on social media because Austin Rivers was on
the Pat McAfee show starring AJ Hawk, and.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
There are some people who's fired some shots at Austin.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah, and he had this to say when comparing the
NFL to the NBA.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
We got to get you outside of that football lane, man,
where the guaranteed contracts are, where the best athletes in.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
The world are. That's us.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
I could take thirty players right now in the NBA
and throw them in the NFL. You cannot thirty NFL
players to put him in the NBA.
Speaker 6 (00:53):
Whoa five on the court. Let's just let's all relax.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
You get a break every play. I got to just
catch them runs north south.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I mean, I'm with him.
Speaker 7 (01:06):
I the NBA here, I'll say this like he's not
entirely wrong. Like there's probably some guys you could play
tight end wide receiver dB. But like here, here's the
here's honestly why I think a guy like Austin Rivers
feels this way.
Speaker 8 (01:23):
This is this is what the league's done.
Speaker 7 (01:25):
They've made this sport all right, They've made this sport
soft to the point where like NBA players think that
they could go in there and and deal with that.
Like that's the truth is, like I would bet back
in the day and LeVar, I'm not trying to like
make you look like you played that much, you know,
further ahead of me, but even when I got in
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the league, from when you were in the league, like
there was changes in all of that. But like they
don't allow hits like LeVar used to do back in
the day. And I'll promise you this, if NBA players
are still watching that, they would probably have a different opinion.
And the look, maybe I'm wrong because back then when
LaVar was playing, the NBA was playing a different style
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of game. That's true, Like these young cats now wouldn't
last in the league because they'd be getting knocked around
by guys like Charles Oakley. So I think it's honestly
the fact that the NFL game has gotten to a
point where dudes really think, like, because the NBA game
is about skill now, like it's not as physical as
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it used to be. And there's a bunch of reasons
we can get into and why that is. But there's
elements of that too. With a spread out as it
is in the NFL and the way the rules are
created now, where you get less physicality, and so you
get guys who don't know what that physicality is, like
thinking they could walk into another league because they're a
good athlete. So I'm not questioning as far as the athleticism,
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there's no doubt. Well, my question would be the toughest.
There's no load management. When you take those hits. You
gotta take those hits. Like, how many of those guys
get Like if someone said the other day and we
were talking about this.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Like, well, you know NBA players, they don't really pads
and stuff, I go, yeah, I was like, there's a
reason for that.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
You know, if you want to compare this to driving
on the highway, right, all the games they played and
the minutes they play, that's great, but it's not the same.
You know, you'd be like, you know, you're talking about
playing in the NFL where you're taking constant car crashes
versus sitting in a gridlocked highway for four.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Hours, and that's it's just and apples don't or just comparison.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
So they've got great athletes, But the physicality, to me
is why I think we even have someone say something
like this or lack of roof.
Speaker 9 (03:37):
I just think it's It's interesting because most dope football
players while in high school get recruited. The recruiters come
to see them play two sports outside of football. It's
basketball and track. Yep, they'll come recruit you based off
of how you play basketball and how you perform in track,
(04:00):
whether it be shot putt discus the one hundred meters,
the two hundred meters, whatever that is. They're basing their
thought process off of that. So for him to say that,
I thought it was more of an ignorant comment. It
was it was just like it was cap like, it
wasn't like it wasn't I don't even know.
Speaker 8 (04:19):
That he believed that. I really he was right.
Speaker 9 (04:22):
About guaranteed contracts and stuff like that, like one hundred percent.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
Get with him on that.
Speaker 9 (04:28):
They have a whole lot more freedom there's a whole
lot more flexibility in basketball. You do have to play
offense and defense in basketball, so you have to translate
different skills. But I'll say this me being a basketball player,
because I was a basketball player first and my trajectory
was in basketball.
Speaker 8 (04:49):
You f around and find out when you like.
Speaker 9 (04:52):
There's dudes that play football that are basketball players. So
in that sense, when you're saying a basketball a football
player wouldn't be able to play basketball, you're it's it's
it's not true because you're playing football and nobody knows
you as a basketball player. But you probably there's probably
a ton and I mean a ton of guys that
(05:15):
are playing playing football that were very very gifted playing
basketball and could be like a They could be in
a rotation, they could be in a rotation of somebody's
team in the NBA, make no mistake about it. And
and maybe not, you know, maybe not a superstar, but
maybe so you just you just never know. I think
(05:37):
the best athletes, honestly, I think the best athletes play football.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
I really do.
Speaker 9 (05:42):
I've seen three hundred plus pound dudes do splits, backflips, tumble,
all kinds of different things that you would not believe
they're they're capable of doing. It's like the grizzly beer
versus you know, a cheetah or something like that, right, Like,
like I could see that that cheetah fast, but you
ain't realize that that grizzly bear can run fast as
(06:04):
l two. They get up to thirty miles per hour
when they run. You see that beer walking down the street.
I always say, you see that beer walking down the street.
You see that tiger walking down the street, that lion
walking down the street.
Speaker 8 (06:15):
He looks so docile, he looks like he, Oh, look.
Speaker 9 (06:18):
At that fat ass beer walking down the street, Like
da da da, all Right, mess around and find out.
Like that's what I would say to that statement that
basketball players could go in. Yeah, sure, put a basketball
player out wide receiver, because even if I'm saying put
put a green and a basketball player that's never played
(06:39):
football on a football field to play tight end, they're
not making it. They're not making it in there. They're
not making it unless you split him out, they're not
making it. So unless you're talking about putting a basketball
player at receiver, that's really the only position that I
could honestly say you could justify Yep, he could transition
(07:02):
from being that to this. Like they were talking about
the kid that played for NC State this year, the
big thick dude that's like three hundred pounds and he's
like six seven to six ' eight or whatever it is,
and they're like, if it doesn't work out for him
in basketball, like, send him on over to football. It
would take a really long time for that young man
(07:24):
to acclimate and understand what it would need to be
for him to be a tackle in the National Football League.
It would take a ton of time and a tremendous
learning curve, and not to mention, he would have to
figure out how to handle the physicality of what takes
place in football. It's just not as simple as, oh,
(07:47):
they're great athletes. They can run, jump and dunk and
shoot three pointers and dribble through their legs and their
footwork and all this other stuff. It's a very different approach,
a very different way of how things work in football. So,
while I'm not going to diminish how athletic you have
to be playing basketball, and how athletic that that game
(08:09):
and that sport is, and how diverse it is and
the things you have to do football is equally diverse,
even by position by position. Like we're not just talking
like running up and down a court and running and
all that. And like he said, you run, you stop,
you try to run the ball. Like there's people dumbed
down what football is. But it is a very complex.
(08:30):
It's a very intricate, very intricate game. And that's why,
that's why you'll never hear anybody militarily refer to basketball.
And in the military. You know what military refers to football.
You know what football refers to the military, because it's
much more grueling, it's a much more sophisticated approach to
(08:52):
what's taking place than than pretty much any other sport.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, I couldn't do either. So you you said's can
argue about that all you want. Yeah, listen, I just
stand on the outside looking at everything.
Speaker 8 (09:04):
Yeah, y'all saw my boy chop drinking his caprice.
Speaker 10 (09:07):
How he was waiting to get draft those back?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Now does he anywhere?
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Does he pop the straw on the top or just
go bottom pouch, because sometimes it's easier just to pop
the caprice sun straw in the bottom of the pouch
as supposed to trying to line it up in that
hole in the top, you know what I mean, Just
squeeze it. Do one little squeeze and then you're good. Also,
cherry is the best Caprice sun flavor in my mind.
Speaker 8 (09:29):
I like the citrus one. Yeah, CRUs is my favorite.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
There's no there's no way those things are good for you.
There's just no possible way. I mean, you could leave
those in a box in a bomb shelter for thirty
years and then open them back up and they taste
exactly the same.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Just doesn't feel like it would be good.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Lee, which is your Caprice unflavor of choice? You had
to go with one? Tropical punch Okay?
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Oh wow over here?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, I think sometimes they call it tropical tide. It's
been a long time, yeah, lons Aire.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Yeah, well, I get yourself a Caprice and because apparently
has he got a sponsorship.
Speaker 8 (10:06):
I mean you should get one after that, Yeah, you
should get one.
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Speaker 3 (11:05):
Joe Burrow was thinking about the eighteen game schedule in
the NFL, the possibility of that, and he threw out
an idea because you know, the hinting is that there's
going to be two bye weeks. This will probably be
coming up here within the next couple of years when
the NFL tries to really get this done. Joe Burrow said, listen,
you get your standard bye week. But he did have
an idea on the tail end of this quote about
(11:26):
what to do with the second bye week. By you guys,
this sounds like a terrible idea.
Speaker 12 (11:30):
You know, eighteen games is definitely a big ask. That's
not easy. Adding that extra game obviously it'd be great
for revenue, But I feel like adding that bye week,
if you're going to have the eighteen games schedule, is
pretty critical for our bodies because if you keep that
first bye week and then you know, some teams have
the bye week five, week six, and then you're going
twelve thirteen games in a row, that's not easy. Probably
(11:53):
a Thursday night game thrown in there too, so.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
That's that's never easy.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
So those two buys are pretty critical.
Speaker 12 (11:59):
Maybe you could do something like the first buy is
kind of how we have it now, and the second
by everybody has it at once, and you make it
like the Pro Bowl week or something like a like
an All Star break for the NBA. I don't know,
we'll see how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
So what do you guys think Pro Bowl week, second
bye of the season, bodies torn up, Let's go hang
out for a week during the Pro Bowl instead of
going to be with our families.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
What do you think that ain't gonna work? I mean,
it doesn't matter where you put the Pro Bowl. The
days of the Pro Bowl. That LeVar was in an experience.
Those are gone.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
I don't think you're ever gonna see those again.
Speaker 7 (12:35):
So I don't know why we keep trying to make
it or bring it back, because it's there's too much
money at risk. There's too much at risk for the players,
even the teams for that matter, and there's not gonna
be a focus on it if it's in the middle
of the season, if it's after the season, before the
super Bowl, there's just there's not a sense of seriousness
(12:55):
to it.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
So no matter how.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
You go about doing it, you're never gonna get what
LeVar was a part of. My only thought er idea
would be you try to make the Senior Bowl a
bigger event. It's already a big event for scouting for teams,
but you sell it as the future stars of tomorrow
(13:18):
and you get as many great college football players blow
it out.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
Have it in.
Speaker 7 (13:23):
It could be in the super Bowl city, right, It
could be in the city that they're designating for the
super Bowl. You could have it there during that off week,
and that would be kind of the precursor to the draft,
to the combine to all of that. For a lot
of NFL fans who yes, the biggest game of the
season is staring them dead in the eyes.
Speaker 8 (13:40):
But that's for two teams.
Speaker 7 (13:42):
You also have thirty other teams who are out of it,
and they're already thinking about the draft, they're thinking about
the Combine, they're thinking about these things. So instead of
having it in Mobile, and I know that's gonna really
be crushing to Mobile's local economy.
Speaker 8 (13:53):
And they're gonna hate me saying this.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Jim Nag, I'm sure hates me saying this, but that
is the tweak.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
I think you could get more engagement and potentially more people,
you know, have more eyes on to be a part
of an event like that, since you're selling the futures
of tomorrow the stars of today in the NFL. I
don't know, correct me if I'm wrong. More you played
in it, you were there three times. It's a great experience,
but I just I can't imagine guys gonna want to
play in it.
Speaker 9 (14:21):
I like the idea of it. I mean, you got
all these opt outs. Let's let's take it a step further.
Why not making an all American game and take the
best players from college I like that, and do a game.
Speaker 8 (14:35):
Yeah, we see the.
Speaker 9 (14:37):
Best players, like the all American team that's chosen, have
them play a game during like, announce the Pro Bowlers
because and do it during the bye week, like like
I love that, but do it during the bye week.
So it's a part of the NFL. But it's not
the NFL. You announce the the Pro Bowlers. The Pro
(14:58):
Bowlers are in attendance, or maybe they're not, who knows.
But you turn it into a spectacle for the NFL.
But it dovetails into kind of or it touches into
the college space. I think that would be crazy too,
because them dudes will be balling.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
They would be balling because basically, the Pro Bowl as
it exists kind of a waste of time.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So at least make something out of it.
Speaker 9 (15:24):
Right, Yeah, it's almost kind of you're making a mockery
of what it was. Where it's at right now, it's
a mockery of what it was. I'd rather not see
it at all. And you just say this used to be,
this is where the Pro Bowl used to be, Like,
do something like that, announce the team, here's where when
we used to have the Pro Bowl. You know, show
(15:45):
some highlights from past Pro Bowls and former players and
move on from it because what it is now it's
just I don't it's shenanigans.
Speaker 7 (15:55):
Well let's be clear too, they came a point in
time where it's gotten to the point where the ulternates
that it's not as creative the.
Speaker 8 (16:04):
Honor as it used to be.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
And I'm not saying that any derogatory way to anyone
who's made it, even as an alternate. But when you
guys were playing LeVar, it's like everyone played like there
weren't two is.
Speaker 8 (16:15):
Really opted out. It was. It was different.
Speaker 9 (16:17):
It was like what it was designed to be, Like
the Brett Farves.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Like guys like that.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
They you know, they would opt out, like some of
the bigger names or older guys, they would opt out.
But for the most part, man, everybody was trying to
go like that was. That was outside of the Super Bowl.
That was like got to make the Pro Bowl. It's
like super Bowl, got to make super Bowl first round
to make super Bowl. If we're not making the Super Bowl,
(16:47):
I got to make this Pro Bowl like that was,
and you wanted to play in it, like I can
recall working out like it was in season as the
season was ending, because you were going the playing the
Pro Bowl, so you know, I don't know it. It
isn't the same, and you know that's.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
Can I be honest too, I think the NFL is
really the person to blame the most, and I hope
everyone understands this. When they left and stop going to
a why thank you, it changed the entire dynamic of
what that trip was for the players where I mean,
I remember when dudes be going, they'd be like asking you, hey, you.
Speaker 8 (17:27):
Like what we'll pay for you to come out?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
You want to come out to bring the you know
I'm bringing so and so.
Speaker 8 (17:31):
Like come on out.
Speaker 7 (17:32):
Like they were like paying for everyone to go, like
not only their family, like they'd be paying for everyone,
like the whole crew. And I looked at it, I
was like, man, think about how much great of an
honor that is? And what I was always thought in
the back of my head was the players who are
getting incentives and they're getting paid to go, but they're
probably not even making money. They might be losing money
when it's all said and done. This trip is so
(17:53):
expensive and the NFL is probably losing money because this
trip is so expensive for all involved, and there's not
as much at ten focus and all that, and I
think the business model is what killed it. And I mean, look,
I'll be transparent. After going overseas to London, which you know,
witnessing a football matches, they would call it watching soccer
(18:15):
over there, I do get concerned about the element of
like capitalism coming into.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Some of these leagues and just thinking, oh, we'll just
throw a bunch.
Speaker 7 (18:26):
Of money'm gon, I try to drive drive revenue, drive revenue,
drive revenue.
Speaker 8 (18:30):
There's some things that aren't about money.
Speaker 7 (18:33):
And that's the problem is like sometimes you know, when
you have a special event like that, you're not always
gonna be able to maximize your profits. You might be
able to make a little bit, but it's an honor
to your players, it's an honor to like the coaches
and people around and had probably a great trip for
even some of the folks who are in the NFL
that are working. It as a bit of a work
slash vacation because it's more laid back, but it was
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an honor and.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
So a lot of times, like a profit doesn't come that.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
And the problem is because they got so focused on
trying to make it more profitable on this and that
it lost its luster. It lost the allure of what
it is, and now you don't go to Hawaiian. Now
you don't got you know, have guys, the best guys going,
and now they're opting out and now there's not even
really a game.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
And I think it had a lot to do with that.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
And look, I compared to the soccer game, because there's
this element of just you know, fans. It doesn't matter
where the backgrounds you come from. In fact, some of
the closest seats to the field, to the pitches, they
would say are not necessarily the cheapest, but they're much
more affordable. And they're made that way because those are
going to be the most rackets fans. Those are going
(19:40):
to be the fans that the ones they're like keeping
back with security and barricades, or when there's a goal scored,
people go nuts and they're trying to run on the field.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
And that's how it should be.
Speaker 7 (19:50):
Like I kind of hate the way stadiums are are
made nowadays.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
Where it's like you don't get that anymore.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
It's like the people who are the most rowdy, most
loyal fans sometimes in the nosebleeds. So I know, I'm
gone my soapbox going off on a tangent on this,
but I think that's the blame for the death of
the Pro Bowl and really like many other things as
far as like how we see the shape of sports
and what they're becoming.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Right now, got to get back to Wahoo Baby, Gotta
get back there.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
It's not there anymore, I know, but you got to
get back there.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Literally might step on a nail if you go back now. Man,
it's not there.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
A heartbreaker.
Speaker 7 (20:24):
What's sad too, is you know Jonas used to talk
a lot LaVar about Kona Beer.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Now he never talks about them, you know, Big Wave.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
He used to give them the shout out if they
give recital. I would never talks about them anymore. I mean,
they can happen. I mean, look, if you're all cans
made the same, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
Which one is you talking about. I'm just I'm trying
to get to the bottom of this stuff.
Speaker 8 (20:51):
Look I figured out in the middle of my laugh.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
I was laughing because I was laughing, and then I
figured out what you said and it and then it
became a different leg Yeah, that's it became Fun's.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
A whole nother, whole other discussion.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
But yeah, listen to you know, I still dabble kind
of beers fine, still dabble, But the answer is no. Look,
if you're if you're a sponsor of this show, you
get a preferential treatment here on this show. And you know,
as soon as they want to jump in and jump
on board and join the party, yeah we can have
that discussion. But until then, you know, keep quiet on
that stuff.
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Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's happening.
Speaker 6 (21:48):
Good morning, Hello, good morning, hell Hello, the old pe.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Petros.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Your thoughts on Austin Rivers Uh making the comparison between
NBA and NFL players and saying that he could find
thirty NBA players to play in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Right now, how does that.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
Thirty guys to get broke? The f off.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
That's it that dropped the mic.
Speaker 13 (22:16):
It's I am a look, where should we start? Is
there even one guy in the NBA who could be
quote unquote thrown into the NFL? And anybody who suggests
Lebron Lebron doesn't want to get hit and his football
window closed at twenty nine to thirty. I mean, Tony
(22:39):
Gonzalez and Antonio Gates and Julius Peppers were football players first,
and they moonlighted in basketball, and they were like Claude
hoppers on the basketball court, and they were great football
players and graceful and ballet like. Jimmy Graham was a
college basketball player who played his first organized football I
(23:00):
think as a fiftyear senior in college, and he tried
football because he was only scoring five points per game
in the NBA or you know, in the college. He
wasn't he had no NBA future. So where are these
thirty guys. Which guy is one of your thirty guys, Austin?
Speaker 6 (23:18):
Who could do it?
Speaker 13 (23:19):
Who's gonna put their hand in the ground and put
a helmet on and get bunked around? Listen, basketball players
are amazing athletes. The NBA players are probably the best
athletes top to bottom in the world. And I never
thought this growing up. I mean, obviously I grew up
(23:39):
thinking Michael Jordan's the greatest player of all time and
all that. But until you get on to an NBA
court and watch NBA players like really up close, you
really get an idea for A, it's a very physical
game compared to what you thought if you're right down
there in the way they even during the regular season.
And b there's no fat on these guys, like there's
(24:02):
nothing to their their bodies. You know, if if an
NBA player has a gut, it's it's news, like James
harden right. I mean, they go up and down the court,
up and down, up and down, and they also go
up and down, up and down like pogo sticks. It's
not the first jump a lot a lot of the
time that's impressive. It's the second jump or the third.
(24:24):
And I was really impressed by it. And I was
really also impressed by their ability to fight through fatigue, right,
just just to go up and just burn it all
out like a hockey shift kind of thing. But toughness
as far as being physically bludgeoned, no, no, they'd all
(24:46):
be broken.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
They don't have the sand in their ass.
Speaker 13 (24:50):
So so Austin Reeves like like, and he was a
tough it's Austin reveris sorry Austin Reeves. But that proves
the point Austin and reasons we get broke. Austin Rivers
was a tough guy when he played, right, Remember he
got hit in the face and he was bleeding at
the end of that playoff game or whatever. He's a
(25:11):
tough guy. He was a great basketball player in high
school and college. Right, it's not fair to compare him
to Brownie James or anything like that. He was he
was quite literally an All American legitimately. But this is
I mean, these guys say this stuff, so everybody's got
to react to it, right, And I feel so stupid
(25:32):
because you know, you fall right into the trap of reaction.
But you guys asked me about it, So you know,
where's the thirty guys, Where's who do we got?
Speaker 6 (25:42):
Who's number one? Who's number one to get broke off?
Speaker 7 (25:47):
Because so to that point, though, like when I hear
a player like that say that, and especially a guy's
a little younger.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
We had those guys at USC on the basketball team,
sure like sure, like ten games under five hundred, like, oh,
we could do what y'all do. It's like, okay, come
on out, then come and do our forty play run
drail a hole?
Speaker 7 (26:06):
Does some of them have to do with the fact
that they look at the NFL now and they don't
see the vicious types of hits in plays.
Speaker 13 (26:13):
That it used to be. Like I suppose they don't
see them. They don't see the dues being paid physically
in their most extreme way, right, but those dues are
still paid. You just don't.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You know, we don't have the you got aft up,
you know and all that.
Speaker 13 (26:29):
But you're right, Brady, I mean, you know and and
and I'll take it from you because of your linebacker
and tied end neck roll days in high school, thank you.
But I mean what the rules we used to play
under are not the rules we play under now. And
obviously you guys speak to that better than I can,
But we don't play under those rules.
Speaker 8 (26:52):
I get that.
Speaker 13 (26:53):
But you're still not getting off the line of scrimmage.
You know, mister six foot seven is not getting off
the line of scrimmage at all. Ever, And you know,
part of the the whole physical playing in the box
and outside the box and all that stuff. We've talked
about this before, but there's a reason that wide receivers
and dbs talk to each other the way they do that.
(27:16):
They because they don't pay their dues the same way.
And when I say dbs, I mean corners and nickel
corners and guys like that, you know, not your Troy Polamalu,
Steve Atwater types. But they they can talk like that
and act like a holes like that and taunt each
other like that, even more so now because the rules
(27:39):
have changed so dramatically. Inside the box, everybody knows they're
gonna get got and talking like that is not helpful
to me at least. So there are different nuances of
how you get beat up as a football player as well.
And all these guys think they're going to play out
on the edge, and anyway, it was up to me,
(28:02):
I'd get rid of all the wide receivers. I'd just
go like Jim Harbaugh and play with four tight ends.
Speaker 8 (28:08):
You go, makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 13 (28:11):
I'd make an extra tight end one of the old linemen,
and then three other tight ends.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
One of them is like a full back type. So
that's it. Abolish the position.
Speaker 9 (28:21):
Somebody also threw up football players and basketball players wouldn't
be able to play baseball, and that baseball is this
and that. To me, I would say, that's more so
more relevant. You're not going to just throw somebody on
a pitcher's mound, or you're not going to just go
up and hit a fastball. That's a ninety mile mile
proud fastball.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
That's a hand eye thing.
Speaker 8 (28:42):
Right.
Speaker 13 (28:42):
We all think about Michael Jordan and that image of
him striking out looking all long and gangly and goofy
on a baseball field, but law, you know, and that
was it was heartbreaking for us. I mean when you're
a kid and it's not like, I mean I loved
Michael Jordan, but I am not from Chicago or anything
like that. I was just another front runner like every
other American white kid or whatever in suburbia. And Michael
(29:06):
Jordan never missed. I mean he never lost. He never
I mean he did. He lost those series before he
started winning the finals. The one he beat the Lakers
in the early nineties was how it started. But like,
it was really humiliating to see Michael Jordan try to
do something else and fail so miserably. I mean, it
was an innocence lost moment for a lot of America's
(29:28):
youth when he was out there.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
Striking out like oohoo.
Speaker 13 (29:32):
You know, but baseball is a double sided cutlass as well, right,
because in baseball you have to be separated hand eye
coordination wise pretty early, and then you have to develop
whatever kind of power if you're a hitter. And there's
some stories out there like Evan Longoria and guys like that.
(29:53):
They're few and far between, but you know, guys that
were not big prospects JC rout leagues and then suddenly
they become pretty special. But baseball players, I think they
get identified pretty young and it's a really difficult road.
And what's funny to me is, you know where I live,
it's a relatively affluent area, and it's a bunch of
(30:17):
just guys that have kids that are just really average
looking white.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Kids and adding to get you though, but they do.
Speaker 13 (30:26):
But the fact that every one of these dads because
the kid can't pass the eyeball test as a football
or basketball player. And that is the difference with football
and basketball. If you're an elite sixteen year old football
player and you walk in to the room looking like
Edward Grimley or something. People are not going to believe
(30:47):
you're a football player baseball. You could look like a
dork and be a great baseball player or not physically imposing.
You know, Mookie Betts is not a big guy. Trey
Turner is not a big guy.
Speaker 8 (31:00):
Pass them and not even know who they are.
Speaker 6 (31:01):
Some of them.
Speaker 13 (31:02):
Yeah, you know, I mean Pedroia, you know these guys
that come to mind, David Eckstein, you know, overachiever guys.
All of these stupid ass rich dads think that their
son is that one guy, and the truth is he's not.
There's some dude in the Dominican with a milk carton
for a glove that.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
That that's that guy.
Speaker 13 (31:20):
But you know, buy your son a fifteen hundred dollars bat,
you know, play three hundred days a year, spend all
your weekends in Lancaster and Bakersfield and just die on
the vine. And by the time your kid's twelve and
he gets the first cent of a female's attraction, he's
going to throw the bat into the pool. You know,
(31:43):
he's gonna throw his two thousand dollars compat posit bat.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
Jacuzzi. You know I know that.
Speaker 13 (31:54):
Yeah, oh god, The whole youth sports thing is amazing
because most of it, even at the AAU level where
guys are competing for scholarships, is a scam made to
fleece the parents and ruin everybody's weekend and have people
not learn to be children. And my message is this,
(32:15):
just because you can play all year does not mean
you should, right, you know, I mean baseball the one
great thing about football, And in a perfect world, I'm
quite aware even if the rules have changed that in
a perfect world, football would not exist. But the one
great thing about football at least is at the end
(32:36):
of the season, they take our pads and we don't
go play all year long. We can't. You know, you
never play football again. When you're done playing football. You
don't hire a ref and a chain gang and go
to camp for two weeks and buy uniforms and rent
out a communication equipment for the booth and the side.
(32:57):
I mean, you just don't do it. And these other
sports are are different, and I think people become more
delusional the more they play.
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Hey, Petros, who's in a worse spot. The Lakers are
the Clippers right now?
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Can I punt?
Speaker 13 (33:16):
We are elimination nation here and he's gonna say. I mean,
the Clippers are out because the Charles Barklay line was great.
You know, I've been rich, I've been poor, I've been fat,
I've been skinny. The Clippers have always sucked. He's right,
you know, and I kind of like the Clippers over
the years. But he's right, And I really just like
(33:38):
the Clippers more because I despise the Lakers. But that
doesn't mean I like the Clippers anyway. They're both done.
I mean the Lakers are being run shadow run by Lebron.
He's laying low because he just fired his sixth coach
in his NBA career.
Speaker 6 (33:55):
I believe his was that just.
Speaker 8 (33:57):
I mean, you follow the Lakers, probably even close to
than we do. I mean, was that one?
Speaker 6 (34:01):
No? No?
Speaker 13 (34:02):
I mean, well why was he hired in the first place.
I mean, look, I can't. I'm not Nick Wright, the
squidward nos guy on TV who talks about this like constantly.
But isn't it pretty clear to everybody that it's not
(34:22):
that cool to be around Lebron. He gets you fired,
and if you have success, it's because he's great, and
if you don't, it's your fault. I mean, players, coaches,
who wants to be around that, you know, and JJ Reddick,
perhaps the most condescending dogmatic person in the history of television,
(34:42):
is going to somehow come to the Lakers and talk
down to these guys and never have coached before. I mean,
and do a podcast with Lebron talking about wine. I mean,
you know, I mean, I guess financially it helps them
just to sell the whole thing to Lebron and not
have to run your friend franchise for as long as
Clutch Sports is sitting in the chair there. But it
(35:04):
certainly is an ugly look from the outside, even with
all the Lebron minions in the media running around.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
And trying to help him.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
He just fired a coach, so he's not going to
do anything for attention for another five.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Or six days. But his head will pop up again.
Speaker 8 (35:18):
And you know, he'll be doing some wine.
Speaker 13 (35:20):
Tasting or something about for attention, like he always does.
The Clippers have a new stadium opening up in Englewood
with a bunch of toilets American standard stadiums and or arena.
Excuse me, the King's just got us swept or blown
(35:42):
out of the playoffs by the Edmonton Oilers, so they're
all drunk running around the South Bay right now.
Speaker 8 (35:48):
Are they at that bar? Manhattan Beach doesnt beach one? Right?
Speaker 13 (35:54):
No, it's the bar, oh the Strep please, the bar
that the hockey guys hang out with is. It's a
dive bar and it's on It's in her Moosa, right
on the border of Hermosa and Manhattan Party. When I
was a kid, it used to be called Critters, but
now it's called North End. Is in the north end
of Hermosa and it's really close to the old nine
(36:15):
o two one oh house on the beach where the
girls lived when they were in college.
Speaker 8 (36:19):
If you remember that.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
It's a sweet spot. P you should do a remote
from there. You and Matt at Critters at North End
or Critters whatever.
Speaker 13 (36:27):
Yeah, I mean it's a dive bar. It's it's not
offensive like the Strand House, which is offensive. A bunch
of called douchebags. Levarang Am I a d bag? No,
you're you're an anomaly from out of town. Okay, you
know you show up and it's like her, there's LeVar Arrington.
If you wants to play pickleball with us.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
No, I don't do that would make me a d
bag if I did pickleball, I don't play pickleball.
Speaker 13 (36:51):
Send send some of the octopus tempo over to LaVar's table.
Speaker 8 (36:57):
It's really good. They got some really good food there. Pee.
Speaker 13 (37:03):
I know I don't go to Manhattan Beach anymore. LeVar,
you know why why? Because I'm from here. I get
I get it. I was just that deal, I understand.
Does that get tough living?
Speaker 8 (37:14):
Uncle?
Speaker 13 (37:14):
Uncle Bill's has a has an old Papadaka's tavern a
plate on the wall from my dad's old restaurant, Nice Greek.
Speaker 10 (37:23):
Is that the one O J autographed?
Speaker 8 (37:26):
Oh?
Speaker 13 (37:26):
Wow, Well we didn't collect OJ's autographs, Okay, okay, some
of his exes.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
That's fair.
Speaker 13 (37:37):
Uh, pe Dad, Why did OJ go to the bathroom
twenty times during dinner?
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Shut up?
Speaker 8 (37:43):
Get a little bump?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
What's he doing in the bathroom with Jim Lampley? Shut
them all?
Speaker 8 (37:49):
I get a little bump. He got a little bump.
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Well, I just want to do a gummer what.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
Listen, pe Uh? The Dodgers are back. They're rolling.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Yes, everybody's excited, and they just had Star Wars night
and intentionally, as you laid out on the radio, did
it on a Monday, because why spoil a Star.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
Wars night when there's an actual good team in town.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Yeah, they had it Saturday, right, Yeah, Well they had it,
didn't they have it?
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Sunday?
Speaker 13 (38:21):
May the fifth was single to Miles, So they had
the Braves in town, Big series weekend, everybody's there.
Speaker 6 (38:28):
So they did Star Wars Night on Monday night because
the Mars Fish came into town.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah, Brady's Marlin.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
But some are saying that that's, you know, the revenge
of the sixth.
Speaker 8 (38:39):
Hits on the very first pitch a home run? What
was it? That game.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Was against the Buller's Dodgers.
Speaker 13 (38:46):
Walker Bueller's back uh and uh Otani is the best
hitter in the world. But I will say this without
being sarcastic and annoying like normal.
Speaker 6 (38:57):
The Dodgers are always this way.
Speaker 13 (38:59):
They're always front running and seven thousand games ahead, and
it's been this way.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
They get to the playoffs and lose in the first round.
Very frustrated.
Speaker 13 (39:09):
But the year is like a huge like giant Boner
parade the entire season. But this is an extra extra
priapism this year because of the first three guys in
the lineup that that is I gotta admit watching the
games living here, that is fun to watch when you
(39:30):
have Bets come up, and then Otani and then Freeman
and then the rest of the guys are pretty good too.
Will Smith and guys like that. Pretty darn impressive to
watch that in the night out, I'll.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Say that, Well, you're pretty impressive, Pee at the old
p on Twitter.
Speaker 6 (39:46):
Only because it's early, you guys are easily impressed.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
No, how was.
Speaker 9 (39:51):
That Kentucky Derby? I didn't say it, though, Pee, I
wasn't agreeing with Jonas. I was just listening to appreciate you.
But you are my guy, though.
Speaker 13 (39:58):
How was that Kentucky Derby guy I got bumped for
last week? He was a real stiff.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, Lee, it was Art Rooney's grandson.
Speaker 6 (40:08):
Well, what's who's coming on next week?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I don't know, ask Lee Rooney Borrow.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Yeah, Pee, we appreciate it. Let's we'll do it again
next week. Wednesday is your day. We promise we won't
let Lee steer us away from that.
Speaker 8 (40:22):
Tell him to keep farting up a storm.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Yeah it is after your sports weekend happens.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
So it's time to get the s r IR report.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
All right, I.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
Mean Lee's on io right now, Lee, come on, Lee
spilled the beans all right?
Speaker 2 (40:45):
What uh? What was this weekend entail? Because you just
you sent over a video. I sent over a lot
of videos, only something we could talk about.
Speaker 10 (40:55):
H So you saw the band Sugar Ray this week?
Speaker 2 (40:57):
I did see Sugar Ray this weekend at the yuh
I can say it Saint Francis de Sales Uh Fair.
It's the best little fair in the valley. I go
there every year.
Speaker 8 (41:09):
Is it a school?
Speaker 2 (41:10):
It looks like a nice stage.
Speaker 14 (41:11):
I mean it doesn't look like it's cheaply done or anything.
Speaker 8 (41:14):
School.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
It is a school. It's a middle school as goes
all the way to eighth grade. But I have a
lot of friends who went to so Fts.
Speaker 8 (41:22):
They all played.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
I have good bands that played there. Hold on a second, yes,
go ahead.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
You went to a middle school fair, Yes, and so
did Sugar Ray.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
There's just like a whole lot of wrong there. It's
a whole lot of wrong. What I go there?
Speaker 14 (41:41):
What's a whole bunch of eighth grader, seventh grader, sixth
graders there?
Speaker 8 (41:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (41:45):
Yeah, yeah, I mean they stay on the.
Speaker 10 (41:48):
Yeah yeah, what they're in class?
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (41:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
Man, you know, I don't have little I don't have siblings.
It's weird. I don't like kids. They sure booze you
have a deliver? Do they serve booze? They like give
they trophy?
Speaker 14 (42:05):
This same strange man, this same is very strange, very odd.
The last year I walked home. Yeah, did you see
the al Paco? How you were on your way?
Speaker 3 (42:14):
A hey, Eddie, Which part of that story do you
find most alarm?
Speaker 14 (42:21):
Man faces telling the whole entire story, because I'm on
the same page.
Speaker 10 (42:25):
Is that Sugar Ray was playing in a middle school
fair that there.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Honestly, I'm going Sugar Ray right, be right? What do
you think they make for that gig?
Speaker 8 (42:36):
Like?
Speaker 10 (42:36):
How many people were there? You probably donate the performance?
Speaker 2 (42:39):
We actually they actually set a number. It's over a
thousand people. A thousand people. How much you're paying to
get in?
Speaker 8 (42:47):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Nothing?
Speaker 9 (42:48):
Yeah, he probably just did it to kind of prepare
for a tour or something.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I don't know if his kids go there or he
went there or whatever, but they think he's a regular there.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
He's a regular in the middle school fair. Yeah, it's
the whole band or is it just Mark McGrath. This
band has been together for ten years. So it's not
the original Sugar Ray. But I mean they kill it,
they rocket, they have a good time. I mean, I'm showing.
They sold over ten million records, four top ten.
Speaker 2 (43:16):
Songs, that's a long time ago.
Speaker 3 (43:17):
Hundreds and millions of streams, tickets sold. I mean, they
were one of the bigger bands in like on the planet.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I forgot how many bangers they had. They have some bangers. Man,
let's not get carried away here.
Speaker 14 (43:29):
I mean, come on, you know they definitely have spring
break anthems.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
You put it on, you're singing to it.
Speaker 10 (43:36):
I mean I'm not personally but you but you know it.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, I mean, but that's what I'm saying. Like and
apparently now middle school kids know it too.
Speaker 8 (43:46):
That was actually what we're.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Talking about, was like probably mostly most of these kids.
Most of these kids probably don't even.
Speaker 3 (43:56):
Know to spread Now what is on the menu though?
Speaker 6 (44:02):
Are they?
Speaker 2 (44:02):
Is it just beer and wine or oh no, that
then everything? Of course. I went with my chili dog
and chili fries. I had pizza pizza slice. I mean,
I'm an chicken chicken bowl from the ear. Bowls are
going crazy. They called the Asian the Asian the Asian
bowl stand. That's literally what it's called.
Speaker 14 (44:23):
It's not in your belly right now, you know how
you you ever hear an empty ice machine, you ever
get scared.
Speaker 2 (44:34):
We're just like at home alone and they're like, what
what was that? It was the ice machine? Yeah, belly?
Oh that means that that must mean I had a
lot of ice here today.
Speaker 14 (44:44):
No, that means you're out of ice, but you're full of.
Speaker 10 (44:50):
I mean so what what what drinks were at.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
The middle What did you drink?
Speaker 4 (44:55):
Everything?
Speaker 8 (44:56):
Like?
Speaker 2 (44:57):
I p a easy breezy uh anything hard? No, they
didn't have the heart. I had to have my flask
on me for the in your flask tequila? Dude, see
you Tomo?
Speaker 8 (45:07):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (45:08):
What what was it? Was it brown? Was its blanco?
What was it?
Speaker 8 (45:11):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (45:12):
Repissente, repissideide?
Speaker 10 (45:14):
All right, you brought a flash to a middle school
with sugar ray
Speaker 2 (45:18):
Place with eight graders walking around Oka
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