May 21, 2024 • 38 mins
OTA’s are underway meaning stars are skipping amid contract negotiations. Trevor Lawrence is next up to reset the market. The NCAA is expected to pay $2.7 billion dollars in back damages and another edition of “Would You Rather...?”
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OTA's are starting around the NFL, and you've got some
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people that are showing up and some people that aren't,
one of which is Tuatugabai Looa trying to get a
contract done. They're having discussions. But he showed up Justin
Jefferson did, not Justin Jefferson's trying to get a deal done.
It does feel like quarterbacks have to play by different
rules when it comes to this stuff like not a
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great look or you're perceived to be showing poor leadership.
But why is it that Tua just can't show up
and say no, man, I'm not coming around until you
get paid, like Justin Jefferson does. Why is there the
double standard?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Well, I would start off by saying this, I mean,
if you look at a quarterback's value to a team,
it's outside of just you know, the performance element of there.
There's leadership qualities to it, and you know you want
that guy to be present. You want that guy to
be there, you know, running the offense. You know, especially
with new guys who might be added to it. You know,
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if he's not there, it really ends up hurting the
entire operation. What you're doing now, not having Justin Jefferson
hurts in a big way. But you know you're gonna
have someone else like Jordan Addison who is a first
round pick that goes in kind of takes the spot
and you kind of move on from there. But if
you don't have a guy who's run in the entire operation,
isn't able to distribute the football, isn't going to be
the guy that's going to be there one of you know,
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it's all said and done when the season comes.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Makes it much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
So I think it's just viewed differently in regards to
the preparation for the team, the the you know, ability
for you to practice and be effective doing it and
preparing for the season, and that kind of leadership quality
about it. It's just it's got a different stigma attached
to it. It just is I mean, there's an expectation
for quarterbacks. If you want a new deal, it's more
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about just hey, showing out, getting the wins and all that, more.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
So than even just stats.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And you've got to show up to the off season
activities even though they're voluntary. Even though if he didn't,
you know, to it wouldn't be getting fined until mini camp,
which is mandatory, and that would you know, cause a
fine as compared to a different position where it it
just doesn't matter quite as much. So I mean, look,
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it is, it is what it is. I mean, I
think most quarterbacks understand that. I think most players and
teams understand that. You know, there's just a different field
with the quarterbacks not there when it's compared to another player.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Am I seeing this? Definitely?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
No, you got it, you got it, and listen.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I I would just say, as it applies to Justin Jefferson,
it has everything to do with a quarterback probably why
he's doing what he's doing right now, right, I mean,
you're at the top of your game, you were able
to do it, and you didn't have quite as good
a year without having Kirt the whole entire way. So
why wouldn't you leverage the fact that A, you know,
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you dealt with some injuries this year, but you're still
a top guy.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
So try to get your.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Contract now so that you know where you stand with
the organization, or if they don't give you the contract
right now, then now that puts you in a situation
where you said, listen, I wanted to stay here. I
wanted to be a part of the Vikings. Y'all didn't
want to redo my contract. So now I'm going to
test the market. Y'all just had that happen with Kirk Cousins.
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So it seems like it's a strategically sound move if
you're justin Jefferson, because you know how valuable you are
to the organization, They know what your value is to
the fan base. It just seems like this would be
the right time and the right mo meant to do
it without coming off being you know, as you mentioned Jonas,
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maybe judged differently. I mean, of course you're going to
be judged differently than a quarterback. The quarterbacks are what
make they make it go. But if I'm if I'm
justin Jefferson, I'm saying, look, y'all need to pay me now,
because wow, I mean, I might be a fan of
JJ McCarthy, you might not. I don't know what he is,
but I just know this, I'm not certain of what
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my future holds without having the quarterback that I came
into this situation with, So let me try to get
paid now here. If it doesn't work out here and
I don't get the stats that would lead to me
getting that major contract, and I'll test the market.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm tired of quarterbacks not getting respect, not being treated
fairly in this league.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Up with it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean it is wrong how they did Kirk Cousins,
though I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
It is so I don't know, you know, it is
what it is. I think it'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Every time I want to feel bad for Kirk Cousins,
they go, what are we looking at? Three hundred million?
He's made, gonna make three hundred million or top three
hundred million in his career. He's fine, He'll he'll be
He'll do all right, you know, even if things don't
work out in Atlanta. He's fine, said, has had a
good career, made a bunch of money. Everything's going to
be okay. But now the other guy that's looking to
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potentially get a deal done, another quarterback in the AFC,
is Trevor Lawrence and his head coach Doug Peterson spoke
about where they're at when it comes to the contract
talks and whether or not this will get done sometime soon.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Obviously, the sooner you get it done, right, it's behind everybody,
and now we focus on football and So that's not
lingering and that's not out there.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I know Trent and his agent.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
They've continued to talk and we'll talk and they're working
hard and tirelessly, and I just got to got to.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Coach Trevor and coach football and hopefully it gets done.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So that's the situation with Trevor Lawrence and we were
talking about it yesteryear.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Brady, that's not how your suppose.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is the sound when you're talking about a franchise guy
is a cue?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
No, you'd like to feel a little more emboldened with
some of your statements. Yeah, right, I just I don't
know how much. I mean that's this is Doug Peterson
on the hot seat. This team, I don't I don't
know about that.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
They might be considered to be underperforming.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And there's been issues with the offense, which some people
would point at Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I would look at some other pieces, whether it's.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Their offensive line. Their play calling has been heavily criticized.
There's been a thought that's it's Doug Peterson press Taylor,
which what is it who's calling the plays?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
There's been a thought to all that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And I feel like if Houston is as good as
I think they're going to be this year with Anthony
Richardson back healthy for the Colts, they were competitive with
Minshew up until what week eighteen, where they're playing for
a playoff spot. You start looking at some of the
teams within their division. I just I don't know, I
could see this team not in meeting expectations. They've got
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a lot of hype around this organization right now, with
a new stadium that it's going to be built, that
they just were able to pass and figure out.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Like Doug Peterson, he's probably in a position to really
have some you know, serious saying all of that the
contract negotiations. But if this season doesn't go well, I
just I wonder how much of the blame hold up
taking for that. That being said, for Lawrence is most
likely I would say good to reset the market if
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there was a player to do so. And there's nothing
statistically that would make you necessarily think that he had
a rough rookie year, really good second year, third year
last year not quite as good.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But he is twenty four years old, which is really young.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It would be who of them to get this contract
at now sooner, because not it's cheaper that way. You know,
if they keep letting other guys like to like Dak Prescott,
all these agents are gonna then come back and try
to surpass those numbers. So I would not be shocked
if he doesn't sign a contract that's somewhere in the
ballpark of in total value two hundred and seventy plus million,
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maybe maybe a little over two nd seventy five million.
And as far as the average annual value, it's probably
gonna be around fifty million per year, if not a
little north of that, and total guarantees. You know, Shot Coom,
their owner's got a lot of money. I'm sure he could,
you know, put easily into the hundreds of you know, millions.
You know, let's say one hundred and fifty million whatever
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is guaranteed a signing if he wanted. So it sounds
like an enormous number, but that's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He's just ask what the next step? Yeah, yeah, next
s up? That's what I don't get caught up anymore
in the has he earned it to sow? And so
I think it's just whether or not, all right, is
he your franchise guy? Have you identified your franchise guy.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
If he is.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Whatever the numbers are from a stat standpoint, or the
wins to go along with it, you're just gonna get
paid like that. That's where you're out, because it's better
to have one that you think might be a franchise
guy to not have one at all.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I asked this question to Jonas yesterday while you were
off the show. I want to get your your takes suspended.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, Lee, Lee had to do.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
You think people realized that and they know that was
a joke.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I think they know it's a bit well the aftermath, yeah,
I think, I mean it does That one seemed more believable, though,
did you so far?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
By the way, I did not. I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you want to talk about it, I'm going to
get it. I want to know it might be I
want to know. So here's my question. If Jacksonville was
in the same scenario as the Chicago Bears this year
with Trevor Lawrence get traded away, man, that's a that's.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
A good question.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think Trevor Lawrence in his second year, you're showcased
enough to make you feel like he's he's gonna be
the guy I think the other difference too, between Trevor
Lawrence and Justin Field's coming into the league is Trevor
Lawrence was viewed as a much more finished product, and
it feels like it's more of like when you watch me,
like all right, some of the stuff around him. With Fields,
it felt like he was still developing at the quarterback spot.
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I think now there's still that thought as to how
he sees the field, how he plays from the pocket.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
As a passer.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Everyone knows he's an unbelievable athlete, how good he is.
He's able to take off and run with the football,
But there's still that element of playing from the pocket,
which you know, if we're being honest with ourselves, that's
what ultimately wins Super Bowls, you know, going from Tom
Brady in the era of you know that he reigned
and Peyton and the guys who are part of that
now into Patrick Mahomes, it's playing from the pocket that
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still wins Super Bowls. And so you know, for Trevor Lawrence,
I don't have as many reservations, you.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Know, with his ability to do so and what he's
done so far in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
As compared to Justin Fields now again, I think it's
it's tough because you know, both these guys were dealt
a tough position.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
When they first got in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But again, you know Lawrence has you know, that Pro
Bowl year, second year, and even last year at times
you started to see him. You know, he was playing
through injury, but you could start started to see him
playing at a high level or that he's capable of that.
So I don't you know, I think they would have
kept Trevor Lawrence, probably would have traded back and got
some more picks.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It would have been a different scenario.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think they would have taken Caleb Williams. And I
only say that because if it was after if he
had year two in year three, I wouldn't feel that way.
But last year just felt weird, man like it just
there was something off, and maybe it was play calling,
maybe there was an issue with the coaching staff. I
have no idea health was also involved. You'd never really
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dealt with injuries or whatnot. And I like Trevor Lawrence.
I just wonder if Jacksonville would look at it and go,
all right, we can restart the clock with a rookie
quarterback and not have to worry about that commitment. If
we do have questions about whether or not year three
was a step back and something that would look like
I mean, either.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Way, here's yeah, here's here's the rationale to it too.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
When we talked about, you know, the type of prospect
Killer Williams was, you know coming out, you've compared him
to Trevor Lawrence. Like people talked about, Trevor Lawrence is
a generational talent. He's a freshman at Clemson, generational talent. Jonas,
wh's the last time my Bears quarterback passed for over
four thousand yards in the league?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Hold on, let me look that. Actually, I have the
answer here. I'm so glad you brought not Hold on
a second, I got it right here.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
It was a big cutler.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Never Yeah. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence has on that the last
two years.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
So I'm not saying that that's an indication of the
fact that you know, hey, you need to keep me
because he's been able to do that. I just I
think this this third year or last year, looking back
on it, I'm not sure you look at that and
then you just completely go Okay, let's just get rid
of this guy, because we've got to agree to a
long term deal with him. I mean, he's played three
years now, so you still technically, within the structure of
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the contract have years four, his fifty year option, and
a franchise tag. So again, that number that you're signing
him to now is going to be quite as as
expensive as compared to you know, looking at justin fields.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
And position that you know he was kind of in.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I don't know, I just I feel like the difference
between the two is Lawrence has proved himself a bit
more in this league so far, whereas you know, Fields
hasn't gone over twenty six hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean I also wonder this because we're talking
about Trevor Lawrence getting this payday and you know, the
twenty twenty one quarterback draft class and where we're at
at this point, and I was, I was thinking about this.
If he's going to get fifty you think, fifty million
dollars annually and he's going to get the two hundred
and seventy five million dollars in total value on the contract,
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what are those contracts going to look like for this
draft class? If any of these quarterbacks in this draft
class hit like two, you know, three years from now,
what are those numbers.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Going to look like? Probably around three hundred by.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That, but like annually, we're talking what sixty five sixty five.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I don't know that there'll be a cap at.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Some point, man, I don't think there is. There has
to be.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Well, it's a byproduct of the salary cap.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
If the salary cap keeps going up the way it is,
you're gonna see those numbers increase with the with the percentage.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Of the cab. You know, if you break down the
cab figures.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
As far as how much of your cap can you
allocate towards a quarterback, it's gonna be somewhere between Obviously.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
The rookie deal where's gonna throw out.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But as far as their second year deal, I'd have
to go and check, but I would imagine it's somewhere
between twelve to fifteen percent of your salary cap is
gonna be taken up by your starting franchise quarterback on
his second contract. So that's what you're looking at now.
You know, if the salary CAP's three hundred and fifty
million per year, you can allocate to your you know,
your team. You could do the math on that. As
far as what he's going to be getting paid. That's
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essentially what those numbers are going to round out too.
And then it just comes down if the owner has
enough cash to be able to, you know, pay him
in bonuses or pay them and signing bonuses when they
restructure to bring that cap figure down so you can
build around the rest of the team.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, that's a healthy league, sure is. That's a healthy league.
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Speaker 3 (17:52):
We are going to have another edition of would you Rather?
It's where lead to Lap who's got a fresh, brand
spanking new mullet, is going to provide us with some options.
We've got to make difficult decisions on the air. We've
got to decide between certain things he comes up with.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I tell you, Q, he's a different dude today that
they will be Uh, this confidence level is on it's
on high, it really is.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Yeah really might.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Might not be able to turn him down, you know
what I mean? Yeah, he turned up. I mean, how
do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
To lap? Like? What? Like?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I can just see the confidence beaming out of you.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
What about this haircut made you feel so confident in
yourself all of a sudden?
Speaker 9 (18:31):
You know, now you just see my face because it's not,
you know, covered with hair. Okay, so you know I
feel streamlined. Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I can feel the That's that's why you go through
you can do on the Zoolander face because you can
see your face.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Now you can see my face. What do you like
a yetti like your hair wasn't covering your eyes and
your face earlier.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, but when you have hair on the sides, it doesn't.
It takes away possible contours of your face.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I got you.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Yeah, it's like blinders. Yeah, yeah, there you go winders
for the horses. You just go straight ahead. But now
I can see everything. That's why he was puckering up
in his picture that he sent us. Oh well look man,
yeah that's nice man. Good for you, man, I'm happy
for you. I hope you use it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Don't don't waste your haircut, man, you know, don't waste it.
Don't waste all right, don't waste it. You got to
use it while you got it. Don't or you lose it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Powerful. Yeah, well listen, Uh, I know this. The Canucks
wasted they wasted their their their season. No, I mean,
I mean well probably, but congratulations of the Oilers onto
the next round. They won Game seven, last Houston Oilers.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
They're bawling.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So this house versus n c A, A house committee
versus the NCAA's great. Whether they're seeking uh, they want
back pay for Division one college athletes who are barred
from earning name, image and likeness compensation. You guys gonna
get a cut or what what kind of check are
you guys going to get?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So we don't get anything from this, we've we've actually
already said this to you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Wait a second, you mean to tell me that we
go Brady Quinn who had T shirts that said that
he made himself you.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Bring this up every time. This is nothing, nothing to
do with that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You marketed this, You put these t shirts out and
you haven't seen a dime for the shirt I would
send for Quinn and LeVar Arrington with the lead for Quinn, Like,
you guys can't get a cut of these of this
billion dollars, it's going to go back to athletes. And
then how are they dipping this.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Up more than that two point seven billion?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Do quarterbacks get more than like Lineman, like, how's this
going to be split up between them?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
The way this says, all right, let's just go over
the facts before we let john us just steer us
into a ditch. Here, it appears the house versus the NCAA,
they're about ready to come to a settlement. And what
that means would be this, The NCAA would pay back
two point seven billion, it's a little over that in
back damages over the course of the next ten years.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
One point six billion of that would.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Come from reductions to NCAA distributions, which obviously the NCAA
every year distributes money out for meteorites, which mostly come
from the tournament things of that nature, but sixty percent
will be coming from the group of five institutions, and
the other forty percent would be coming from the power conferences.
However that could potentially change. D two D three are
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not a part of this. And then there's another one
point one billion of the two point seven that will
be coming from NCAA reserves and which will come via
the reserves, budget cuts and another sources. Now, if they
don't settle and they let this thing play itself out,
there's a court date coming in January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
And if House in this case was able to.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Win verse the NCAA, which will put it this way,
everyone's one versus the NCAA.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Basically, every lawsuit that comes up, the NCAA loses.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
So it would be smart probably for the NCAA to
settle and for the parties or the excuse me, the
powers that be to come together and make a settlement
from this because usually they pay triple in the award
of a settlement. And if the NCAA was to reject
this settlement, it could be as high as twenty billion
in back damages, which would probably bankrupt the NCAAA. So look,
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as of now, the revs share with athletes at least
from this model, what we're seeing is going to be
somewhere between fifteen to twenty five million per year, but
there's not specifics to who gets paid. So for example,
revenue generating sports football, men's women's basketball, that's pretty much it.
You know, are they the only ones getting paid? Are
all student athletes getting paid? How does this work? There
(22:52):
will most likely no longer be a there'll be a
cap on the roster, but there will not be a
scholarship limitation, meaning if you want, for even other sports
outside of football, like football might be you know, ob
eighty five, they'll keep it at eighty five.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
But for some.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Other sports like lacrosse, you could have thirty scholarship players
if you want. So there's there's that potential. We still
don't know how collectives will be involved. We do know
they'll be greater scrutiny against those collectives. They could be
instrumental in helping student athletes get paid, a kind of
a conduit to student athletes getting paid, and then they
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might not. And then the last thing is that's probably
most important is Title nine. It's still a big question
mark and it's not clear who's fighting for Title nine,
which if you recall it provides equal scholarships.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Both men's and women's sports, and so.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It becomes difficult to know how this wall impact Title nine.
And if you know, for example, women's sports will be
impacted by all of this depending on whatever settlem's come to.
So look, all this stuff is still potentially subject to
more litigation. But if the federal government provides protections to
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the NCAA after this settlement takes place, which I believe
is why some of it's being dragged out. That and
the fact that some of the conferences aren't completely on
board with this, and it does have to go to
a vote. But we're at a point now where they're
starting to be more structure to at least student athletes
getting paid at the college sports ranks.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
There's still not enough.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
There definitely needs to be some more governing and more
rules put in place, because it's still the wild wild West.
The NIL has made college athletics and high school athletics
and youth athletics the wild Wow West, and so to me,
looking at something like this taking place, the sooner the
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sooner these operations are legally able to come in to
the institution, to the university, I think the better off
college sports will be. That's what I think.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I think still lends itself to the question of who's
going to oversee it and punish the schools for doing so.
Is the NCAA then going to, you know, punish an
SEC school.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Let's just you know, kind of say what we're all
probably thinking.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Are they going to punish an SEC school if they
have to be bending the rules within that nil space
outside of what revshare those those athletes are getting, Well,
is it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Going to be an SEC school?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It just feels like they're the ones they get more
often than not.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
How about this, Let's actually say let's say it's a
Big ten school.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
We'll say it's a Big ten school because the Big
ten actually generated more revenue last year in twenty twenty
three than the SEC did. So let's say the Big
ten because the Big ten's got more money in the SEC.
But let's say a Big ten school does, who's ultimately
going to punish them before that? And what's the punishment
going to be? I mean, those are all questions we still.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Don't know at this point.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
We don't know, for example, if collectives exist, do the
schools take them in house? Do they exist at arm's
length away but having to be subject to some sort
of law or some sort of governance by a third party,
whoever that may be. There's there's a lot of questions that,
at least based on the reporting we've gotten now.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
And if you're looking.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
For someone to follow, Ross Dellinger has done an unbelievable
job documenting the progress that has been made at this point.
So to Ross, he'd be a great person to follow
to get a better sense of whether this is all going.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
But again, this is just the beginning. It's not the end.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I don't think I think this will be challenged. Even
with this agreement, There'll probably be.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Someone who challenges this settlement when it's all said and done.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I can't wait for it to all be over. I
can't wait for it, like, just get over it so
we can just focus on football and get back to
There's not going.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
To be a lot of getting over for a while, bro,
There's going to be so much more that has to
be developed and infrastructurally speaking, And how does it apply,
I mean, and how does all of those things work?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And and is that union with all college athletes? Is
it by conference? Is it by school, Like, how is
all of it? There's so much infrastructure that's going to
need to be in place to manage this the right way.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I think one of the misnomers too in all of
this is basically, through this settlement, it would provide schools
with protection and the student athletes would still be deemed
students not employees. And the reason why that's important is
when you start throwing the term employee around on them,
I think there's some student athletes that don't want to
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be that, by the way, in part because I don't
think they're they're ready for don't want to have to
necessarily have a job, even though it feels like everything
they're doing is a job. But I think not that
it complicates things further with the university, but it definitely
changes the relationship, right, you know, with your school once
the become an employer. And I think there's a thought
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that this particular settlement and the powers that be that
are trying to work on negotiating the settlement are trying
to work with the federal government to get protection so
that student athletes are viewed as still students not employees.
And because to your point, LeVar, not that this changes much.
They'll still probably have to unionize, they'll still probably have
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to have a collective bargaining agreement. But the relationship between
universities and the student athletes that are there, because I
think there is still a thought that the student component
should matter, getting a degree should matter, all those things,
which I do agree. I know not everyone does, but
I think getting your education at that formidable part of
your life is still really important. But there is a
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thought that, you know, not changing that relationship to have
to put a school the position of firing kids and
all that, even though it kind of happens now, right
especially if you look at Colorado and what's going on
between their roster They're gonna have the most roster turnover
again for the second year in a row. It's kind
of already happening, but you'd like to think that there's
still some development. There's still some sense of like the
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university is helping to kind of grow these these young
people and help them out. And when it's an employee.
When you're an employee, it feels a little more cutthroat,
if that, If.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
That makes sense, it does.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And then there's the idea of representation, you know, and
how how is that going to be handled. You're going
to have guys. You have guys now who are being
advised by their agents. They're they're being guided by their agencies,
and you're hearing about it, and you know, possible transferring,
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you know, different things like that, the leveraging of bowl
games or important games. Like I'm just going to sit
out and go into the transfer portal. Like you, you're
now hearing the influence of in which we I feel
like it's it's mucky and messy with pro players. Now
these now, these these agents are attaching themselves, and these
(30:13):
agencies are attaching themselves to college players and now even
at some points even high school players. Yeah, you know
for football, I mean basketball and baseball, other sports has
been it's been around, but it's definitely a brave new
world as it applies to the football space and how
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that's going to be handled and how that's represented, what
that looks like because there is no real governing of
it right now, if you ask me, it's.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
It's why I've always wondered why the like NFLPA or
even Major League Baseball the NBA, like why they don't
take I mean, I guess the NBA in a way
with the G League, has you know, realized that there
needs to be some sort of mechanism or opportunity for
players you come up high school, don't want go to
college and go to the G league right and get
your development there, focus on that there to then get
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to the pros. And I've always wondered why the NFLPA
wouldn't want to take a more active approach in helping
to create whatever unionization there could be at the college level,
only in the aspect of like, this is your minor leagues,
Like this is where you're getting your talent pool from,
Like if you want to approp like we talked to
what Monday yesterday about the whole GLA right and the
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Group B licensing agreement and how you know, when we're
coming out, we're kind of unaware of it, having to
educate ourselves on it.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
And you know, now it's a little different.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Because a lot of the players are signing deals in
college and so maybe they're better educated on some of
these topics. But I think it would be helpful for
the NFLPA to invest their time in not resources, but
at least consulting in whatever comes from this formation in
this new world of college sports and say, look like
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help us, you know, let's create something that helps the
transition for these players, because this is ultimate where they're
trying to get to.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
And when we can create what we've.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Done with at least a foundation for you to work
off of, and from there, at least you've got the
frameworks in place that you could have a union and
you could have representation. We will teach you how to
work with these agents and how to make sure these
agents are certified and all those things that the NFLPA
currently does.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I feel like the school should have to hold a
large a large responsibility for that infrastructure as it applies
to educating these kids on what this looks like, how
they can be successful as student athletes, because that's still
what they are. If we're going to pretend that that's
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what it, you know, it's something different, then that is
what it is. But these guys have a lot of
things that these athletes have a lot of things that
they got to do. And it'll be interesting to see
how much the school uses their resources to be able
to support these it's as as this kind of this
nil space continues to evolve and develop, Well.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Good luck with all that Hawaii, Delaware State, a little
over three months away in front of it.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Are you ever.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Gonna go back out there again?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I mean, if you guys go with me, If you
guys go with me, let's go. Let's do a show
out there. They've thrown out the invite. Fox Sports nine
ninety has thrown out the invite. All right, they've they've said,
we'd love to have you guys out there. I got
to make it happen. I go gotta make it happen.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I will fly all the way across basically the world
together with you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I want you to know that what that ten hours
for you? We got a fly a lot more.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
But the question is will lead to it?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
As long as he's got that that mohawk going, Lee's
going anywhere. He's going to go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Are you calling it a mohawk?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It's my bad the mullet, Yeah, my bad mullet mullet.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
What'd you by the way, why did Lee? Why don't
you get eight lines of the side? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Why didn't you get any lines in the side?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I just got a straight faite. It's it's cool. My
platinum power pelt.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Okay, platinum power repelt.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, that's what you call it it?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Can we get your opinion on this? How does how
would you view the mullet?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I complimented him on the mullet. I think it fits
his personality.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I mean, I know.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Nothing about Lorena's personal life, and you don't have to
share it all with us. I'm just curious if a
woman is single and she walks up to a guy
that's a good looking guy with a mullet, is there
any preconceived notion as to what that guy's like.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's hard to say. I would not date a man
with a mullet, no offense, no offense take. But they're
known to have a really good time. Oh they're wild.
It's a party in It's business in the front, and
I'm party in the back, right, So you know, I.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Feel like Lee's just kind of a party though.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I mean, I don't, Well, there's no business, he's just
a good time alone.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I really was about to make that about me, I know,
I know.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
You do.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
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Speaker 2 (36:35):
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Speaker 3 (36:39):
Alight, Lee, dazzle us, dazzle you.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
I gotta come out strong, all right, we'll dazzle guys.
Would you rather fight in a rangutang with a sword
once a year or a chicken every time you start
your car.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I don't want a chicken.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I'm gonna do a chicken. Yeah, I don't run the
risk of dying in that.
Speaker 9 (36:58):
Yeah, I get old though. Every every time you start
your car, you gotta kill a.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Chicken, necessary to kill it, fight to the death. Well,
now it's fight to the death you add and stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
So wait, wait, even if they're a rangutang, I've got
to kill the rangutang.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
With the sword.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
That's right. Rangutan has the sword. You do not have
a s like a rangue tang.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah I did too. Man, You're messed up, Lee had
much whether kill a chicken?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That is a little darker. Yeah, I'm gonna eat the Yeah,
i'mna eat the chicken. I'm not gonna eat the orangutang.
So you know, rather, Hey, here's here's food.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
I ain't got to.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Go to the group the chicken with the orangutang.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
There you go together.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, yeah, let's hang a rangutang, have some chicken, Get
some chicken.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
Guys, who would you rather see make their first finals
appearance from Anthony Edwards or Luca Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, I feel bad saying that because I like both,
But Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I mean, someone had to go on the other side.
But godly, I guess we didn't. You know, I'm gonna
take Luca.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Luca looks like he Luca looks like he smokes cigarettes
between games.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
I'm gonna go with Luca. I don't know why he
looks like a smoker.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I want to see Anthony Edwards do it.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
I want.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I think he is the next superstar of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I agree, bring you ass, but I'm gonna go with
Luca just to balance things out.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Okay, well we don at least not, but go ahead.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Yeah, we definitely.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Would you rather have an extra finger or an extra toe?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I definitely want an extra toe. I don't want people
to see more ass whipping already have one
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OTA's are starting around the NFL, and you've got some
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people that are showing up and some people that aren't,
one of which is Tuatugabai Looa trying to get a
contract done. They're having discussions. But he showed up Justin
Jefferson did, not Justin Jefferson's trying to get a deal done.
It does feel like quarterbacks have to play by different
rules when it comes to this stuff like not a
(01:44):
great look or you're perceived to be showing poor leadership.
But why is it that Tua just can't show up
and say no, man, I'm not coming around until you
get paid, like Justin Jefferson does. Why is there the
double standard?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Well, I would start off by saying this, I mean,
if you look at a quarterback's value to a team,
it's outside of just you know, the performance element of there.
There's leadership qualities to it, and you know you want
that guy to be present. You want that guy to
be there, you know, running the offense. You know, especially
with new guys who might be added to it. You know,
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if he's not there, it really ends up hurting the
entire operation. What you're doing now, not having Justin Jefferson
hurts in a big way. But you know you're gonna
have someone else like Jordan Addison who is a first
round pick that goes in kind of takes the spot
and you kind of move on from there. But if
you don't have a guy who's run in the entire operation,
isn't able to distribute the football, isn't going to be
the guy that's going to be there one of you know,
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it's all said and done when the season comes.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Makes it much more difficult.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
So I think it's just viewed differently in regards to
the preparation for the team, the the you know, ability
for you to practice and be effective doing it and
preparing for the season, and that kind of leadership quality
about it. It's just it's got a different stigma attached
to it. It just is I mean, there's an expectation
for quarterbacks. If you want a new deal, it's more
(03:11):
about just hey, showing out, getting the wins and all that, more.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
So than even just stats.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And you've got to show up to the off season
activities even though they're voluntary. Even though if he didn't,
you know, to it wouldn't be getting fined until mini camp,
which is mandatory, and that would you know, cause a
fine as compared to a different position where it it
just doesn't matter quite as much. So I mean, look,
(03:36):
it is, it is what it is. I mean, I
think most quarterbacks understand that. I think most players and
teams understand that. You know, there's just a different field
with the quarterbacks not there when it's compared to another player.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Am I seeing this? Definitely?
Speaker 6 (03:48):
No, you got it, you got it, and listen.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I I would just say, as it applies to Justin Jefferson,
it has everything to do with a quarterback probably why
he's doing what he's doing right now, right, I mean,
you're at the top of your game, you were able
to do it, and you didn't have quite as good
a year without having Kirt the whole entire way. So
why wouldn't you leverage the fact that A, you know,
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you dealt with some injuries this year, but you're still
a top guy.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
So try to get your.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Contract now so that you know where you stand with
the organization, or if they don't give you the contract
right now, then now that puts you in a situation
where you said, listen, I wanted to stay here. I
wanted to be a part of the Vikings. Y'all didn't
want to redo my contract. So now I'm going to
test the market. Y'all just had that happen with Kirk Cousins.
(04:41):
So it seems like it's a strategically sound move if
you're justin Jefferson, because you know how valuable you are
to the organization, They know what your value is to
the fan base. It just seems like this would be
the right time and the right mo meant to do
it without coming off being you know, as you mentioned Jonas,
(05:05):
maybe judged differently. I mean, of course you're going to
be judged differently than a quarterback. The quarterbacks are what
make they make it go. But if I'm if I'm
justin Jefferson, I'm saying, look, y'all need to pay me now,
because wow, I mean, I might be a fan of
JJ McCarthy, you might not. I don't know what he is,
but I just know this, I'm not certain of what
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my future holds without having the quarterback that I came
into this situation with, So let me try to get
paid now here. If it doesn't work out here and
I don't get the stats that would lead to me
getting that major contract, and I'll test the market.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm tired of quarterbacks not getting respect, not being treated
fairly in this league.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Up with it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, I mean it is wrong how they did Kirk Cousins,
though I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
It is so I don't know, you know, it is
what it is. I think it'll be fine.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Every time I want to feel bad for Kirk Cousins,
they go, what are we looking at? Three hundred million?
He's made, gonna make three hundred million or top three
hundred million in his career. He's fine, He'll he'll be
He'll do all right, you know, even if things don't
work out in Atlanta. He's fine, said, has had a
good career, made a bunch of money. Everything's going to
be okay. But now the other guy that's looking to
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potentially get a deal done, another quarterback in the AFC,
is Trevor Lawrence and his head coach Doug Peterson spoke
about where they're at when it comes to the contract
talks and whether or not this will get done sometime soon.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
Obviously, the sooner you get it done, right, it's behind everybody,
and now we focus on football and So that's not
lingering and that's not out there.
Speaker 5 (06:43):
I know Trent and his agent.
Speaker 7 (06:44):
They've continued to talk and we'll talk and they're working
hard and tirelessly, and I just got to got to.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Coach Trevor and coach football and hopefully it gets done.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
So that's the situation with Trevor Lawrence and we were
talking about it yesteryear.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
Brady, that's not how your suppose.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Is the sound when you're talking about a franchise guy
is a cue?
Speaker 4 (07:04):
No, you'd like to feel a little more emboldened with
some of your statements. Yeah, right, I just I don't
know how much. I mean that's this is Doug Peterson
on the hot seat. This team, I don't I don't
know about that.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
They might be considered to be underperforming.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
And there's been issues with the offense, which some people
would point at Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 5 (07:28):
I would look at some other pieces, whether it's.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Their offensive line. Their play calling has been heavily criticized.
There's been a thought that's it's Doug Peterson press Taylor,
which what is it who's calling the plays?
Speaker 5 (07:40):
There's been a thought to all that.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
And I feel like if Houston is as good as
I think they're going to be this year with Anthony
Richardson back healthy for the Colts, they were competitive with
Minshew up until what week eighteen, where they're playing for
a playoff spot. You start looking at some of the
teams within their division. I just I don't know, I
could see this team not in meeting expectations. They've got
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a lot of hype around this organization right now, with
a new stadium that it's going to be built, that
they just were able to pass and figure out.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I don't know. I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Like Doug Peterson, he's probably in a position to really
have some you know, serious saying all of that the
contract negotiations. But if this season doesn't go well, I
just I wonder how much of the blame hold up
taking for that. That being said, for Lawrence is most
likely I would say good to reset the market if
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there was a player to do so. And there's nothing
statistically that would make you necessarily think that he had
a rough rookie year, really good second year, third year
last year not quite as good.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
But he is twenty four years old, which is really young.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
It would be who of them to get this contract
at now sooner, because not it's cheaper that way. You know,
if they keep letting other guys like to like Dak Prescott,
all these agents are gonna then come back and try
to surpass those numbers. So I would not be shocked
if he doesn't sign a contract that's somewhere in the
ballpark of in total value two hundred and seventy plus million,
(09:17):
maybe maybe a little over two nd seventy five million.
And as far as the average annual value, it's probably
gonna be around fifty million per year, if not a
little north of that, and total guarantees. You know, Shot Coom,
their owner's got a lot of money. I'm sure he could,
you know, put easily into the hundreds of you know, millions.
You know, let's say one hundred and fifty million whatever
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is guaranteed a signing if he wanted. So it sounds
like an enormous number, but that's where we're at.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
He's just ask what the next step? Yeah, yeah, next
s up? That's what I don't get caught up anymore
in the has he earned it to sow? And so
I think it's just whether or not, all right, is
he your franchise guy? Have you identified your franchise guy.
Speaker 6 (09:59):
If he is.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Whatever the numbers are from a stat standpoint, or the
wins to go along with it, you're just gonna get
paid like that. That's where you're out, because it's better
to have one that you think might be a franchise
guy to not have one at all.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
I asked this question to Jonas yesterday while you were
off the show. I want to get your your takes suspended.
But yeah, yeah, yeah, Lee, Lee had to do.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
You think people realized that and they know that was
a joke.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah, I think they know it's a bit well the aftermath, yeah,
I think, I mean it does That one seemed more believable, though,
did you so far?
Speaker 5 (10:33):
By the way, I did not. I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you want to talk about it, I'm going to
get it. I want to know it might be I
want to know. So here's my question. If Jacksonville was
in the same scenario as the Chicago Bears this year
with Trevor Lawrence get traded away, man, that's a that's.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
A good question.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
I think Trevor Lawrence in his second year, you're showcased
enough to make you feel like he's he's gonna be
the guy I think the other difference too, between Trevor
Lawrence and Justin Field's coming into the league is Trevor
Lawrence was viewed as a much more finished product, and
it feels like it's more of like when you watch me,
like all right, some of the stuff around him. With Fields,
it felt like he was still developing at the quarterback spot.
(11:20):
I think now there's still that thought as to how
he sees the field, how he plays from the pocket.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
As a passer.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Everyone knows he's an unbelievable athlete, how good he is.
He's able to take off and run with the football,
But there's still that element of playing from the pocket,
which you know, if we're being honest with ourselves, that's
what ultimately wins Super Bowls, you know, going from Tom
Brady in the era of you know that he reigned
and Peyton and the guys who are part of that
now into Patrick Mahomes, it's playing from the pocket that
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still wins Super Bowls. And so you know, for Trevor Lawrence,
I don't have as many reservations, you.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Know, with his ability to do so and what he's
done so far in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
As compared to Justin Fields now again, I think it's
it's tough because you know, both these guys were dealt
a tough position.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
When they first got in the league.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
But again, you know Lawrence has you know, that Pro
Bowl year, second year, and even last year at times
you started to see him. You know, he was playing
through injury, but you could start started to see him
playing at a high level or that he's capable of that.
So I don't you know, I think they would have
kept Trevor Lawrence, probably would have traded back and got
some more picks.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
It would have been a different scenario.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I think they would have taken Caleb Williams. And I
only say that because if it was after if he
had year two in year three, I wouldn't feel that way.
But last year just felt weird, man like it just
there was something off, and maybe it was play calling,
maybe there was an issue with the coaching staff. I
have no idea health was also involved. You'd never really
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dealt with injuries or whatnot. And I like Trevor Lawrence.
I just wonder if Jacksonville would look at it and go,
all right, we can restart the clock with a rookie
quarterback and not have to worry about that commitment. If
we do have questions about whether or not year three
was a step back and something that would look like
I mean, either.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Way, here's yeah, here's here's the rationale to it too.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
When we talked about, you know, the type of prospect
Killer Williams was, you know coming out, you've compared him
to Trevor Lawrence. Like people talked about, Trevor Lawrence is
a generational talent. He's a freshman at Clemson, generational talent. Jonas,
wh's the last time my Bears quarterback passed for over
four thousand yards in the league?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Hold on, let me look that. Actually, I have the
answer here. I'm so glad you brought not Hold on
a second, I got it right here.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
It was a big cutler.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Never Yeah. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence has on that the last
two years.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
So I'm not saying that that's an indication of the
fact that you know, hey, you need to keep me
because he's been able to do that. I just I
think this this third year or last year, looking back
on it, I'm not sure you look at that and
then you just completely go Okay, let's just get rid
of this guy, because we've got to agree to a
long term deal with him. I mean, he's played three
years now, so you still technically, within the structure of
(14:06):
the contract have years four, his fifty year option, and
a franchise tag. So again, that number that you're signing
him to now is going to be quite as as
expensive as compared to you know, looking at justin fields.
Speaker 5 (14:18):
And position that you know he was kind of in.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
I don't know, I just I feel like the difference
between the two is Lawrence has proved himself a bit
more in this league so far, whereas you know, Fields
hasn't gone over twenty six hundred yards.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Yeah, I mean I also wonder this because we're talking
about Trevor Lawrence getting this payday and you know, the
twenty twenty one quarterback draft class and where we're at
at this point, and I was, I was thinking about this.
If he's going to get fifty you think, fifty million
dollars annually and he's going to get the two hundred
and seventy five million dollars in total value on the contract,
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what are those contracts going to look like for this
draft class? If any of these quarterbacks in this draft
class hit like two, you know, three years from now,
what are those numbers.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Going to look like? Probably around three hundred by.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
That, but like annually, we're talking what sixty five sixty five.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I don't know that there'll be a cap at.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Some point, man, I don't think there is. There has
to be.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Well, it's a byproduct of the salary cap.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
If the salary cap keeps going up the way it is,
you're gonna see those numbers increase with the with the percentage.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Of the cab. You know, if you break down the
cab figures.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
As far as how much of your cap can you
allocate towards a quarterback, it's gonna be somewhere between Obviously.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
The rookie deal where's gonna throw out.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
But as far as their second year deal, I'd have
to go and check, but I would imagine it's somewhere
between twelve to fifteen percent of your salary cap is
gonna be taken up by your starting franchise quarterback on
his second contract. So that's what you're looking at now.
You know, if the salary CAP's three hundred and fifty
million per year, you can allocate to your you know,
your team. You could do the math on that. As
far as what he's going to be getting paid. That's
(16:04):
essentially what those numbers are going to round out too.
And then it just comes down if the owner has
enough cash to be able to, you know, pay him
in bonuses or pay them and signing bonuses when they
restructure to bring that cap figure down so you can
build around the rest of the team.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah, that's a healthy league, sure is. That's a healthy league.
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Speaker 3 (17:31):
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Speaker 6 (17:48):
Now, hug trees, don't you are?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
We are going to have another edition of would you Rather?
It's where lead to Lap who's got a fresh, brand
spanking new mullet, is going to provide us with some options.
We've got to make difficult decisions on the air. We've
got to decide between certain things he comes up with.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
I tell you, Q, he's a different dude today that
they will be Uh, this confidence level is on it's
on high, it really is.
Speaker 6 (18:13):
Yeah really might.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
Might not be able to turn him down, you know
what I mean? Yeah, he turned up. I mean, how
do you feel about that?
Speaker 5 (18:21):
To lap? Like? What? Like?
Speaker 3 (18:23):
I can just see the confidence beaming out of you.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
What? What?
Speaker 1 (18:27):
What about this haircut made you feel so confident in
yourself all of a sudden?
Speaker 9 (18:31):
You know, now you just see my face because it's not,
you know, covered with hair. Okay, so you know I
feel streamlined. Okay, that's what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
I can feel the That's that's why you go through
you can do on the Zoolander face because you can
see your face.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Now you can see my face. What do you like
a yetti like your hair wasn't covering your eyes and
your face earlier.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, but when you have hair on the sides, it doesn't.
It takes away possible contours of your face.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I got you.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Yeah, it's like blinders. Yeah, yeah, there you go winders
for the horses. You just go straight ahead. But now
I can see everything. That's why he was puckering up
in his picture that he sent us. Oh well look man,
yeah that's nice man. Good for you, man, I'm happy
for you. I hope you use it.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Don't don't waste your haircut, man, you know, don't waste it.
Don't waste all right, don't waste it. You got to
use it while you got it. Don't or you lose it.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Powerful. Yeah, well listen, Uh, I know this. The Canucks
wasted they wasted their their their season. No, I mean,
I mean well probably, but congratulations of the Oilers onto
the next round. They won Game seven, last Houston Oilers.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
They're bawling.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
So this house versus n c A, A house committee
versus the NCAA's great. Whether they're seeking uh, they want
back pay for Division one college athletes who are barred
from earning name, image and likeness compensation. You guys gonna
get a cut or what what kind of check are
you guys going to get?
Speaker 5 (20:02):
So we don't get anything from this, we've we've actually
already said this to you.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Wait a second, you mean to tell me that we
go Brady Quinn who had T shirts that said that
he made himself you.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Bring this up every time. This is nothing, nothing to
do with that.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You marketed this, You put these t shirts out and
you haven't seen a dime for the shirt I would
send for Quinn and LeVar Arrington with the lead for Quinn, Like,
you guys can't get a cut of these of this
billion dollars, it's going to go back to athletes. And
then how are they dipping this.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
Up more than that two point seven billion?
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Do quarterbacks get more than like Lineman, like, how's this
going to be split up between them?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
The way this says, all right, let's just go over
the facts before we let john us just steer us
into a ditch. Here, it appears the house versus the NCAA,
they're about ready to come to a settlement. And what
that means would be this, The NCAA would pay back
two point seven billion, it's a little over that in
back damages over the course of the next ten years.
Speaker 5 (21:07):
One point six billion of that would.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Come from reductions to NCAA distributions, which obviously the NCAA
every year distributes money out for meteorites, which mostly come
from the tournament things of that nature, but sixty percent
will be coming from the group of five institutions, and
the other forty percent would be coming from the power conferences.
However that could potentially change. D two D three are
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not a part of this. And then there's another one
point one billion of the two point seven that will
be coming from NCAA reserves and which will come via
the reserves, budget cuts and another sources. Now, if they
don't settle and they let this thing play itself out,
there's a court date coming in January twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
And if House in this case was able to.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Win verse the NCAA, which will put it this way,
everyone's one versus the NCAA.
Speaker 5 (22:02):
Basically, every lawsuit that comes up, the NCAA loses.
Speaker 4 (22:05):
So it would be smart probably for the NCAA to
settle and for the parties or the excuse me, the
powers that be to come together and make a settlement
from this because usually they pay triple in the award
of a settlement. And if the NCAA was to reject
this settlement, it could be as high as twenty billion
in back damages, which would probably bankrupt the NCAAA. So look,
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as of now, the revs share with athletes at least
from this model, what we're seeing is going to be
somewhere between fifteen to twenty five million per year, but
there's not specifics to who gets paid. So for example,
revenue generating sports football, men's women's basketball, that's pretty much it.
You know, are they the only ones getting paid? Are
all student athletes getting paid? How does this work? There
(22:52):
will most likely no longer be a there'll be a
cap on the roster, but there will not be a
scholarship limitation, meaning if you want, for even other sports
outside of football, like football might be you know, ob
eighty five, they'll keep it at eighty five.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
But for some.
Speaker 4 (23:09):
Other sports like lacrosse, you could have thirty scholarship players
if you want. So there's there's that potential. We still
don't know how collectives will be involved. We do know
they'll be greater scrutiny against those collectives. They could be
instrumental in helping student athletes get paid, a kind of
a conduit to student athletes getting paid, and then they
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might not. And then the last thing is that's probably
most important is Title nine. It's still a big question
mark and it's not clear who's fighting for Title nine,
which if you recall it provides equal scholarships.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
Both men's and women's sports, and so.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
It becomes difficult to know how this wall impact Title nine.
And if you know, for example, women's sports will be
impacted by all of this depending on whatever settlem's come to.
So look, all this stuff is still potentially subject to
more litigation. But if the federal government provides protections to
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the NCAA after this settlement takes place, which I believe
is why some of it's being dragged out. That and
the fact that some of the conferences aren't completely on
board with this, and it does have to go to
a vote. But we're at a point now where they're
starting to be more structure to at least student athletes
getting paid at the college sports ranks.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
There's still not enough.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
There definitely needs to be some more governing and more
rules put in place, because it's still the wild wild West.
The NIL has made college athletics and high school athletics
and youth athletics the wild Wow West, and so to me,
looking at something like this taking place, the sooner the
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sooner these operations are legally able to come in to
the institution, to the university, I think the better off
college sports will be. That's what I think.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 4 (25:09):
I think still lends itself to the question of who's
going to oversee it and punish the schools for doing so.
Is the NCAA then going to, you know, punish an
SEC school.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Let's just you know, kind of say what we're all
probably thinking.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Are they going to punish an SEC school if they
have to be bending the rules within that nil space
outside of what revshare those those athletes are getting, Well,
is it.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Going to be an SEC school?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
It just feels like they're the ones they get more
often than not.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
How about this, Let's actually say let's say it's a
Big ten school.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
We'll say it's a Big ten school because the Big
ten actually generated more revenue last year in twenty twenty
three than the SEC did. So let's say the Big
ten because the Big ten's got more money in the SEC.
But let's say a Big ten school does, who's ultimately
going to punish them before that? And what's the punishment
going to be? I mean, those are all questions we still.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
Don't know at this point.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
We don't know, for example, if collectives exist, do the
schools take them in house? Do they exist at arm's
length away but having to be subject to some sort
of law or some sort of governance by a third party,
whoever that may be. There's there's a lot of questions that,
at least based on the reporting we've gotten now.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
And if you're looking.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
For someone to follow, Ross Dellinger has done an unbelievable
job documenting the progress that has been made at this point.
So to Ross, he'd be a great person to follow
to get a better sense of whether this is all going.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
But again, this is just the beginning. It's not the end.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
I don't think I think this will be challenged. Even
with this agreement, There'll probably be.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
Someone who challenges this settlement when it's all said and done.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I can't wait for it to all be over. I
can't wait for it, like, just get over it so
we can just focus on football and get back to
There's not going.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
To be a lot of getting over for a while, bro,
There's going to be so much more that has to
be developed and infrastructurally speaking, And how does it apply,
I mean, and how does all of those things work?
Speaker 5 (27:13):
You know?
Speaker 1 (27:14):
And and is that union with all college athletes? Is
it by conference? Is it by school, Like, how is
all of it? There's so much infrastructure that's going to
need to be in place to manage this the right way.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
I think one of the misnomers too in all of
this is basically, through this settlement, it would provide schools
with protection and the student athletes would still be deemed
students not employees. And the reason why that's important is
when you start throwing the term employee around on them,
I think there's some student athletes that don't want to
(27:51):
be that, by the way, in part because I don't
think they're they're ready for don't want to have to
necessarily have a job, even though it feels like everything
they're doing is a job. But I think not that
it complicates things further with the university, but it definitely
changes the relationship, right, you know, with your school once
the become an employer. And I think there's a thought
(28:13):
that this particular settlement and the powers that be that
are trying to work on negotiating the settlement are trying
to work with the federal government to get protection so
that student athletes are viewed as still students not employees.
And because to your point, LeVar, not that this changes much.
They'll still probably have to unionize, they'll still probably have
(28:33):
to have a collective bargaining agreement. But the relationship between
universities and the student athletes that are there, because I
think there is still a thought that the student component
should matter, getting a degree should matter, all those things,
which I do agree. I know not everyone does, but
I think getting your education at that formidable part of
your life is still really important. But there is a
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thought that, you know, not changing that relationship to have
to put a school the position of firing kids and
all that, even though it kind of happens now, right
especially if you look at Colorado and what's going on
between their roster They're gonna have the most roster turnover
again for the second year in a row. It's kind
of already happening, but you'd like to think that there's
still some development. There's still some sense of like the
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university is helping to kind of grow these these young
people and help them out. And when it's an employee.
When you're an employee, it feels a little more cutthroat,
if that, If.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
That makes sense, it does.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
And then there's the idea of representation, you know, and
how how is that going to be handled. You're going
to have guys. You have guys now who are being
advised by their agents. They're they're being guided by their agencies,
and you're hearing about it, and you know, possible transferring,
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you know, different things like that, the leveraging of bowl
games or important games. Like I'm just going to sit
out and go into the transfer portal. Like you, you're
now hearing the influence of in which we I feel
like it's it's mucky and messy with pro players. Now
these now, these these agents are attaching themselves, and these
(30:13):
agencies are attaching themselves to college players and now even
at some points even high school players. Yeah, you know
for football, I mean basketball and baseball, other sports has
been it's been around, but it's definitely a brave new
world as it applies to the football space and how
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that's going to be handled and how that's represented, what
that looks like because there is no real governing of
it right now, if you ask me, it's.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
It's why I've always wondered why the like NFLPA or
even Major League Baseball the NBA, like why they don't
take I mean, I guess the NBA in a way
with the G League, has you know, realized that there
needs to be some sort of mechanism or opportunity for
players you come up high school, don't want go to
college and go to the G league right and get
your development there, focus on that there to then get
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to the pros. And I've always wondered why the NFLPA
wouldn't want to take a more active approach in helping
to create whatever unionization there could be at the college level,
only in the aspect of like, this is your minor leagues,
Like this is where you're getting your talent pool from,
Like if you want to approp like we talked to
what Monday yesterday about the whole GLA right and the
(31:27):
Group B licensing agreement and how you know, when we're
coming out, we're kind of unaware of it, having to
educate ourselves on it.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
And you know, now it's a little different.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
Because a lot of the players are signing deals in
college and so maybe they're better educated on some of
these topics. But I think it would be helpful for
the NFLPA to invest their time in not resources, but
at least consulting in whatever comes from this formation in
this new world of college sports and say, look like
(31:56):
help us, you know, let's create something that helps the
transition for these players, because this is ultimate where they're
trying to get to.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
And when we can create what we've.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Done with at least a foundation for you to work
off of, and from there, at least you've got the
frameworks in place that you could have a union and
you could have representation. We will teach you how to
work with these agents and how to make sure these
agents are certified and all those things that the NFLPA
currently does.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
I feel like the school should have to hold a
large a large responsibility for that infrastructure as it applies
to educating these kids on what this looks like, how
they can be successful as student athletes, because that's still
what they are. If we're going to pretend that that's
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what it, you know, it's something different, then that is
what it is. But these guys have a lot of
things that these athletes have a lot of things that
they got to do. And it'll be interesting to see
how much the school uses their resources to be able
to support these it's as as this kind of this
nil space continues to evolve and develop, Well.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Good luck with all that Hawaii, Delaware State, a little
over three months away in front of it.
Speaker 6 (33:11):
Are you ever.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
Gonna go back out there again?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
I mean, if you guys go with me, If you
guys go with me, let's go. Let's do a show
out there. They've thrown out the invite. Fox Sports nine
ninety has thrown out the invite. All right, they've they've said,
we'd love to have you guys out there. I got
to make it happen. I go gotta make it happen.
Speaker 4 (33:25):
I will fly all the way across basically the world
together with you guys.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I want you to know that what that ten hours
for you? We got a fly a lot more.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
But the question is will lead to it?
Speaker 1 (33:36):
As long as he's got that that mohawk going, Lee's
going anywhere. He's going to go anywhere.
Speaker 5 (33:41):
Are you calling it a mohawk?
Speaker 1 (33:42):
It's my bad the mullet, Yeah, my bad mullet mullet.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
What'd you by the way, why did Lee? Why don't
you get eight lines of the side? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Why didn't you get any lines in the side?
Speaker 6 (33:53):
I just got a straight faite. It's it's cool. My
platinum power pelt.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
Okay, platinum power repelt.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Yeah, that's what you call it it?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Can we get your opinion on this? How does how
would you view the mullet?
Speaker 3 (34:08):
I complimented him on the mullet. I think it fits
his personality.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I mean, I know.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Nothing about Lorena's personal life, and you don't have to
share it all with us. I'm just curious if a
woman is single and she walks up to a guy
that's a good looking guy with a mullet, is there
any preconceived notion as to what that guy's like.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
That's hard to say. I would not date a man
with a mullet, no offense, no offense take. But they're
known to have a really good time. Oh they're wild.
It's a party in It's business in the front, and
I'm party in the back, right, So you know, I.
Speaker 5 (34:48):
Feel like Lee's just kind of a party though.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I mean, I don't, Well, there's no business, he's just
a good time alone.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I really was about to make that about me, I know,
I know.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
You do.
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Speaker 6 (35:27):
You You need.
Speaker 3 (35:29):
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Speaker 1 (35:33):
I don't know that there's help available for your type
of need of help. I wish everybody in the world
could have hurt what you just said two minutes ago.
That's all I'm gonna say. I'm gonna be like camera
on on CNN, and I ain't gonna snitch on you,
but I'm just saying.
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Speaker 2 (36:35):
Would you rather your random topics, sports or otherwise?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Alight, Lee, dazzle us, dazzle you.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
I gotta come out strong, all right, we'll dazzle guys.
Would you rather fight in a rangutang with a sword
once a year or a chicken every time you start
your car.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
I don't want a chicken.
Speaker 6 (36:54):
I'm gonna do a chicken. Yeah, I don't run the
risk of dying in that.
Speaker 9 (36:58):
Yeah, I get old though. Every every time you start
your car, you gotta kill a.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Chicken, necessary to kill it, fight to the death. Well,
now it's fight to the death you add and stuff.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
So wait, wait, even if they're a rangutang, I've got
to kill the rangutang.
Speaker 5 (37:14):
With the sword.
Speaker 6 (37:15):
That's right. Rangutan has the sword. You do not have
a s like a rangue tang.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Yeah I did too. Man, You're messed up, Lee had
much whether kill a chicken?
Speaker 1 (37:22):
That is a little darker. Yeah, I'm gonna eat the Yeah,
i'mna eat the chicken. I'm not gonna eat the orangutang.
So you know, rather, Hey, here's here's food.
Speaker 6 (37:29):
I ain't got to.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Go to the group the chicken with the orangutang.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
There you go together.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, yeah, let's hang a rangutang, have some chicken, Get
some chicken.
Speaker 9 (37:42):
Guys, who would you rather see make their first finals
appearance from Anthony Edwards or Luca Anthony Edwards Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
Yeah, I feel bad saying that because I like both,
But Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 1 (37:53):
I mean, someone had to go on the other side.
But godly, I guess we didn't. You know, I'm gonna
take Luca.
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Luca looks like he Luca looks like he smokes cigarettes
between games.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
I'm gonna go with Luca. I don't know why he
looks like a smoker.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
I want to see Anthony Edwards do it.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
I want.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
I think he is the next superstar of the NBA.
Speaker 1 (38:13):
I agree, bring you ass, but I'm gonna go with
Luca just to balance things out.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Okay, well we don at least not, but go ahead.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
Yeah, we definitely.
Speaker 9 (38:21):
Would you rather have an extra finger or an extra toe?
Speaker 1 (38:25):
I definitely want an extra toe. I don't want people
to see more ass whipping already have one
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