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May 31, 2024 55 mins

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe,  the Joe is out celebrating his 100th birthday! Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington are joined by The Old P, Petros Papadakis as they react to Giants TE Darren Wallers latest song about his former wife WNBA Star Kelsey Plum. Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington talk about Game 5 of Mavericks @ Timberwolves, breaking down the blowout game that propelled the Mavericks into the NBA Finals! Next the guys react to FS1 Analyst Colin Cowherds INSANE take on the Norte Dame - USC rivalry!

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two Pros and a Couple
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Be in Benethos, everybody, we have come to finish the
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My name is Petros Papadagas, with the great LeVar Arrington
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I was yesterday.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
No shooting out of bed and getting.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
Ready to engage you.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I guess the unknown, you know, kind of like
a relationship where you've yet to come consummate. You know,
once you consummate, there's no mystery left?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Am I right?

Speaker 4 (01:05):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Is that what happened between Darren Waller and Kelsey? Oh?
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I'm glad. Did you guys do that already? I don't
know what you do?

Speaker 3 (01:13):
We have to we have to revisit this with you.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, wait a minute, okay, first of all, just remember
this that talking leads to touching. Touching leads to sex,
and then there is no mystery left.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
So remember that before.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
I mean, if it was great, it was great, but
if you're going to give it to me, it better
be special.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
I would have to say, on behalf of behalf of.
There still should be a little bit more mystery. After that,
I have experienced more mystery.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
I mean, I'm just saying that.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Makes it special, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
There's there's a lot of people laying in bed staring
up at the ceiling saying why did I do these?

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:03):
I feel like my all my insides have been flushed
down a toilet and no longer want to be in
this situation.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
They only no missionary? Right?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Is that a fair way of putt against day?

Speaker 2 (02:12):
We had a friend that we used to call Johnny
missionary because that was the only way. All right, let's fine,
before we get into all the very impactful things that
we need to do. Jonas's birthday, he's out huge Jojo
seawah like celebration at Disneyland with Booze. Did you guys
see Jojo Seewah Disneyland getting drunk on her twenty first birthday.

(02:34):
It's one of the greatest videos I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Now, unfortunately, I mean or fortunately, I work in Burbank
and I live in La so we always see Jojo
Seawah driving around or car is wrapped. It's like seeing
Angeline or some other La luminary back in the day
where you just see somebody driving down or the guy
with the Jesus car.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Oh yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
That's uh Wiener. The Wiener mobile.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh yeah, there's a there's a couple of those, but
there's only one Planter's Peanut Mobile that's fair, which is
giant nut.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
Is not the same thing with the Oskinmeyer Wiener. Isn't
there only one? There's only one. I believe there's more
than one. I think there's only one Winner truck Man.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
I'm telling you, I've I've studied it. There's only one
Wiener Petros Now that's not true. I mean, it's a
national brand. He can't possibly make it back and forth.
It's not like a cannonball run car. It's not like
Khan just Spring, It's not that's what.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
But that's one valuable Wiener they might fly they might
fly it, they might fly it around.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
You know, we've got to hold it together here. I
do want to hear the Darren Waller rap. Now, Darren
Waller is a tight end, right.

Speaker 5 (03:49):
I don't feel like it was a rap song though,
I feel like it was, like like Q said earlier,
it's like post malone vibes.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
I don't know what genre that is. I don't know
what's rap though.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
It comes from It actually comes from influences of like reggaeton, dancehall,
reggae or like a sing jay style, not a DJ,
a DJ in Jamaica where raps started. Basically that came
to Jamaica queens. A DJ was like a guy who
talked over a track or toasted over a track.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
Like come all talk to them petros.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Chanting like Rastafarian things like like a king of Kings,
lord of lords, conquering line of the tribe of Judah,
electa god, that kind of thing.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
So come on.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
That started with Jamaicans kind of singing along with tracks,
and then it became now even better than the Jamaican's
modern doing it. Are the afrobeat guys, all the African
guys like yeah, they're pretty hot right now, Berner Boy
and Rieman guys like that. So Davido shata wala. So

(05:00):
what you have is like this new style of music,
but it's just destroyed and bastardized by auto tune and
any American trying to do it. It just it doesn't
fit now.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
It came across as country like to me, I had
a country feel to it.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
Well, country is a pop vibe now, I mean you
could just do a little tweak push a couple of
buttons and your pop song is a country song.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
You replace the purple lean with a red solo cup
and you got you got a country song.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Uh that Beings said.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
That six degrees of separation.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
We have had over the years, a lot of rap battles, right,
I mean going back to cool mode versus LLL cool
J And now what is it Kendrick Lamar.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Versus and really what is it? At its core?

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's two guys writing aggressive poetry toward each other truth, right,
which is not very different than all it.

Speaker 5 (05:57):
Was like it was a little bit uh, you know,
unveiling of what would consider to be you know, friend
of friends, secrets and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
But yeah, I mean at the end of it. Yeah,
it's it's like you're putting it in poetry here.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
And not very different from what you would happen in
the literary circles you know of hundreds of years ago.
One guy would write an essay attacking this guy, and
then they write an essay back. I mean, it's not
very different. But this Darren Waller thing is a response
to his w NBA ex wife, the one with the
vest and the giant cravats between her boobs and the

(06:31):
vest and the tunnel walk.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Is that what?

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Here's can I can? I only bring this up because
have you watched the video?

Speaker 3 (06:40):
No?

Speaker 4 (06:41):
Okay you heard.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
All I saw it was was on your rundown.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Okay, So this is perfect.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
This is all I want to do is attack Colin Cowhard.
That was my only agenda to is we will.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Get to that. We're going to we'll get to that.
We're going to get to it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
But here's what bothers me is we've seen some other
artists or performers do something similar like I'll all put
it this by Justin Timberlake, who had a very public
relationship with Britney Spears.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
He put her on blast.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Right crimea River, which I don't forget, kind of one
of the dopest because I was the first one like
music video. I remember when he casted someone who looked
just like Brittany and it and the way it played
out and all that. This was not that I don't know.
It's sad about I don't know who. I don't know
who he who he casted to play this role. But

(07:26):
it doesn't look like Kelsey Plumb. And if I was him,
I would have been.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Finding the hottest chick possible to put in this music video,
because that's what music videos need.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Wise.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Yeah, it did look like the ex wife from Shoulder. No,
I grew up about the shoulder. I grew up watching
videos on MTV. Right, I'm not watching this.

Speaker 4 (07:49):
I'm not old. I watched it on the Cube.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Well, we had the South Central We you don't know
about the South Central Music Box, Lamar. Back in my
day when my brother was playing at SC and then
I was there, we had the South Central Music Box
and you could call in a request, you know, for
like so.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
You think, well you could do that on the queue.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, it was a similar thing.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
But you know the South Central Music Box where you
could call in a request for the Diddy.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
By paper from Cali.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, cool, we're cooler.

Speaker 5 (08:17):
Uh, you got to bring us back to that Lorena
the Diddy by the paper Boy.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
The paper Boy. People forget about the paper Boy anyway.
Let's hear before we get to the paper Boy. Can
I at least hear Darren Waller's attack on his album?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
Well, let's hear a little bit.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
Let's hear if you take it away?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
WHOA what happened? That's it?

Speaker 4 (08:41):
Don't don't well, I don't. I think we need to
play a different.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
That's the wrong.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
That wasn't the radio edit.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I can't understand it.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Take it time tonight, knew how much you and.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Why why would you do this?

Speaker 5 (09:21):
I mean, he's he's he's delving in. He's diving in
deep into his creativity.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
I mean, I sing on the radio, but it's all
for a joke and for people to laugh at me.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
I feel like not me.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
I sing because I can sing, Petros, every guy.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Ever played football with thought he could play basketball, box
and and sing.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
Yeah, I'm joking though I can't. I can't sing.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
No, you're a beautiful voice.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
I am with you. Thank you, so do you? Petros?

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I cannot I can't understand why somebody didn't block him
from doing that. Then again, I mean, who's going to
stop a tight end who wants to express himself in
the off season before and after ot.

Speaker 3 (09:59):
A S I hear some more?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Please? I mean be careful, guys. You guys are terrible.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
You play like five seconds, but what is this a
game show? I want to hear it.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
I mean you played thirty seconds. It didn't get well, Petros.
We'll keep playing it, though, what else?

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Are you just a little more?

Speaker 4 (10:17):
I mean, help me out here, guys, Lorena, just right
that button, we are right back there?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
That great?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Can we do last morning?

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Three times? Do I want more?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
You know what you're gonna be seeing.

Speaker 3 (10:30):
I want to hear.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
It to night, be helping you? And how long I
gotta climb up this head? How long I gotta do it?
I'm tired all the type of hell. Imagine if we
fell out too, because.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Yeah, you gotta hit you gotta still would listen to
this before the show.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
It's uptial edit.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
She's happening. We've had this in the rundown. What happened?
I'm sorry that I asked for it anyway, good luck?

Speaker 5 (11:09):
I knew Darren Waller was going to get us. He
was wallowing in his in his miseries.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Man, good luck to that.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Did I catch that to the two of them?

Speaker 5 (11:18):
What you mean there ain't no luck between the two
of them, is it? They don't have no kids together?
I mean they go. You think they'll come back together. No,
I don't think they're coming back together, Petro. He has
her stabbing him, shanking him in the back, and he
looked like a dead fish in the water, like that
just got beached, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Like he's laid out and they're coming back.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
He's laid out in the pool.

Speaker 5 (11:40):
In the video, it's one of those it's like, apparently
she killed ym, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, that's like there's a famous film noir that is
a precedent set for that. That's the beginning of Sunset
Boulevard where the guy's laying in the pool Dad. So
good for Waller, at least he had that going for him.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
We'll move on very endaring, Petros.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
I think every woman in America that heard this song
wants to console him and hug him and make sure
he's okay.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
I don't think so. I'm not. I don't know, man,
We have no mad.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
We have a lot of couples putting on a brave
face right now. Kendall Jenner and Bad Buddy are back together.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Did you guys know that?

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Well, there you go. I did not know that.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, speaking of a Latin rap.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
And then we have, uh, we have j Lo and
Ben Affleck putting on a united front, you know, showing
up and a reel like there are.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Always one argument away from not being together. Yeah, that's
actually really a fee right now.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
What do you mean that's actually really like you're their
neighbor or something. Supposedly every time he goes out he
hides his ring finger so people can't see if he
still has it on or not.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Because j Lo gets bored. Man, just like the Kardashians
you brought up, Kendle you brought up. You brought up
people that get bored. They get bored.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Maybe he just like, like, what's wrong with put your
hands in your pockets?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Now, you know, docket.

Speaker 4 (13:02):
Cold outse it does get cold outside.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
I mean, regardless of all the things that we know
about j Loo and Ben and all that stuff, if
you just take out the celebrity part of it and
think about it.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
Like just a normal relationship.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Well, think about it, like, well, when I was in
my twenties right now, I'm not saying this about me,
but let's just say I'm Ben Affleck speaking. When I
was in my twenties, I had a very very tumultuous,
hot and cold relationship with a fiery latina and then
it broke off. And then later in life I went

(13:39):
back to that fiery Latina and I can't believe it.
It didn't go well.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
I'm off to the flat.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I mean, that is the That's the story of Affleck
and j Lo, is it not?

Speaker 4 (13:49):
But isn't that?

Speaker 5 (13:50):
Isn't that a true like loser love story? Though, like
everybody wants to have the opportunity to be messed on
in the.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Stuff that bothered you about her in your twenties is
probably going to be a thousand times worse when she's
fifty one.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
But it's feeding the ego. Ego is being fat? You're good?

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Are we being real right now? We have this conversation. No,
I'm always I'm always not real.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Well, I'm trying to be real right now here. Here's
what I'd say.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Some of the best advice I ever got was what
You've got to start loving the parts of your partner.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
That you hate because they end up coming out your children.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
There's gonna be elements of that to come out your children,
So you can't resent your partner for that. You can't
resent your children for your partner and their flaws. So
you're saying that Jlo and Ben's kids are like going
out to the club and getting into shootings with pe Daddy,
Pete Daddy they.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Used to call him. I don't know about any of that.
I'm not saying any of it.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Says something happened like your kids, and you know it's
in some kind of trait. Yeah, J's joining bad Boy
and getting into shoes with Shine.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I was thinking more maybe it's the other way and
Sheila's kids are all of a sudden joining like someone
in the town.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
You know, it's that's the part of the depoted. Next
thing they know, they're whacking people off the top of roofs.
And one you can't leave the town, Yeah, tang, nobody
leaves the town.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Who's driving If you're going to drive, If you're going
to get into a messed up relationship though, and you're
gonna go back, wouldn't you say, you know what, Ben
I get it, Like if it was somebody else, like
like not not necessarily like the bombshell, then it's like Kethy,
like what are you?

Speaker 4 (15:34):
What are you doing this for?

Speaker 5 (15:36):
But if you're going to mess up, mess up big,
they say, if you're gonna make a mistake on the
football field, make it go on full speed, gone hundred
miles per hour while you're making a mistake.

Speaker 4 (15:45):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (15:46):
That's what Ben i Flack is doing with j Low. Yeah,
maybe one hundred miles per hour mistake. Like good for him,
Like I at least get to say, you know what,
I messed up with j Low or we got a
messed up relationship.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I gotta messed up relationship with Jay Low. Three times.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
They look miserable.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
They look at like absolute most miserable people in the world.

Speaker 4 (16:08):
But that might be what they want.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
They might want to be miserable, you know why, because
she could be like I'm miserable with Ben afflat which
to a lot of ladies out there, I'm sure they're like, dang,
i'd be unhappy with Ben Aflac. I'll take that jobing
in there. Probably a whole bunch more dudes that'd be like,
you know what I look miss. If I had to
look miserable with somebody, I'm gonna look miserable with j Loo.

(16:31):
I'm just saying, I don't know. Maybe that's what they
how they look at it.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
We've done our deep dive into celebrity. Gu Yes in
the first segment of the Final Hour, two pros and
a cup of Joe, And you know what I blame.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
I thank you Darren Waller.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
No, I don't even blame him. I blame T and T.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
You know why, because we watched these NBA Finals games
and it wasn't much of a game last night. I'm
sure Eddie'll have the update in the next segment, and
I guess that was the last game ever on T
and T.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
Right, Yeah, that's how Charles put it right, which is
just which is awful.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
I mean, it's a terrible example of how badly these
things can be screwed up by.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Can you update me?

Speaker 3 (17:09):
By the way, So, so who what out on the
bid for the NBA is NBC.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I don't think it's over. I don't think it's official,
but I think it looks like TN T, T and
T got a little too comfortable, like fun you're gonna
leave me. Go ahead, good luck, you know, And and
and they did it. No Sparatu Adam Silver, the vampire
that's in charge of the NBA, came out of his
coffin and went blah blah blah and went over to.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, I went over to. I thought, yeah, I will
suck the blood of the.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Peacock and uh no, Diddy, that's hey, that's uh that's fair.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
I mean, that's how business is done.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
A lot of people are upset about how the PAC
twelve went away and and calling out Fox and ESPN
for its downfall. And I mean you could call out
Fox for sure, because the Big ten got so powerful,
and maybe that wasn't their intention. ESPN tried to save
the PAC twelve. I mean, these networks, there's more money
to be made than ever, and the networks are the

(18:12):
ones that control it, along with the leagues, especially at
the pro level, and we're all kind of adherent to it,
even if there's a great thing like the T and
T NBA show that's going to have to go away.
But I blame the celebrity culture thing because it happens
to me every morning when we're watching the NBA. This
time of year, you watch T and T, you leave

(18:33):
the TV on because it's on late, you come back
to your office or whatever, it's still on, and that
goddamn Charmed is on every morning.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
You know, the show, that show, the worst show.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
We have it every day. We say it every day, and.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It's just it's on every day, and you're like expecting
to see sports on TV and it's a Lissa Milano
and Shannon Doherty or the other one that was with
Marilyn Manson, which is that she's very outspoken now, and
then the other sister. I mean, it is the worst
show in the world. And every day you're just sitting

(19:07):
here doing a sports show, staring at Charmed, and my
mind wanders to j Lo to Affleck, to Bad Bunny
to Kendall Jenner.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I apologize.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Dang, all right, we're gonna move on. In the very
next segment, we will get to No, I'm really not,
to be honest with you, there's a lot of things
upsetting me. The triple F bombs in the in the UH.
It's like it's like it's one thing to be a
local hack like me and have F bombs fly through
the air all the time, but this is a pro

(19:38):
professional show.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
I mean, you guys are. It's not professional, but you
guys are.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
You guys are a high level show.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
And to sit there and let Waller say those things
in auto tune about Kelsey Clump, Hey, how care you
come on our ask probably a dumb question, but I
actually had a hard time even telling it was a
cuss word because of how he's saying it and how
it sounds with the auto tune.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
I mean, does that still count then?

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Well?

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I mean, I know for a fact, back in the day,
like k Rock would play songs and like after six
months it'd be like, oh wait, there's an F bomb
in there. But you know, I mean, it's hard to tell.
So it's a valid point. It's not a stupid play.
And also there's certain songs that are played, whether the
lyrics are absolutely vulgarist can be yet there's no profanity

(20:26):
or it's changed or bleeped out, and you're like, yeah,
but listen to what they're saying and you're playing that
on radio. Yeah, I mean, I have to say a
lot of there's a lot of hypocrisy.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
In the world.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I just remember sitting in a bar at usc and
watching all the white girls scream the lyrics to the Dogfather,
you know, stuff like I mean, can't you can't even repeat,
you know, even three or four of the lyrics. But
I think we grew up in a worse time for lyrics,
to be honest, with the gangster rap of our time. Now,

(20:58):
it just sounds like guys are going, yeah, it's really
a well, what's the one?

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (21:07):
What's there's a commercial where they're playing Jenga. They know matter,
they know matter week stop.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Hey it's stop Smurder.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Yeah, what do we do? It's the Wingstop commercial though,
that's no matter.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
They know that's Ray sermon, not Ray not not.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
But well, whatever it is, it's not. It's a far
cry from easy.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Does it. Yes, that's very true, very true.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
All right, we'll be back on Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
We are going to talk about college football and the
NFL moving to London and all of those things, I promise,
But a guy does an autotude song and we just
can't handle ourselves.

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We got Brady.

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Boom boom boom boom boom boom, and then we got
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Speaker 4 (23:21):
Yeah, come on, good morning, Welcome everyone.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
This is two pros.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And a cup of Joe. That's the one and only.
Leaviren said, I'm lady Quinn.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Jodah Knocks not in today, as we talked about yesterday.
He will be off for a little bit. He's a
joined himself.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
It's his birthday, so if we could big round of applause,
big happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
If you're out there on X, go.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Ahead and send a little love to Jonahs Knocks on
his forty fourth birthday as he's enjoyed himself with his family,
friends and loved ones.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
But I want to let you know.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
We are broadcasting live from the tyrack dot com studios.
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all right, Because there's one man, one man on this

(24:13):
show who called a shot. He saw how everything was
playing out, He saw what was happening in the world
of the NBA.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
He looked west.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
They said no, no, no more.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
It is over.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Dallas will win Game five and move on to the
NBA Finals.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And that individual was the one and only LeVar aarinted,
Did I say that? You did say that.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
In fact, on the opposite end was Jonas Knox, who
guaranteed it was going to Game six. So for all
those out there who potentially took Jonahs Knox's betting advice,
it's shame on you for following him after he continually
picks loosers.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
You should have been listening to.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
LeVar was not overly pleased with the amount of threes
taken by Karl Anthony Townisen, which again last night, which.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
It was a bit of a factor. I mean, but
he scored, I mean, he did put points up. It
just wasn't any help. I mean it was a two
man show for Minnesota, which again I think even with
his points, it's just the way he gets his points.
It doesn't stress a team out enough. It didn't stress

(25:23):
the Dallas Mavericks out enough. Q And for what it's worth,
it's not even that they played a bad game yesterday
because all intentsive purposes, Okay, you didn't get NAS read
any help from from NAS or any other cast members
outside of outside ant Man and Karl Anthony Towns. I mean,

(25:44):
Gobert could have he could have, you know, been inactive
for all it mattered. I mean, they just didn't get
any other help. But Kyrie and Luca they're playing at
a level right now. In that game, they played at
a level where I don't know that Minnesota's best would
have been good enough to beat them last evening. So

(26:06):
it's kind of you got to give a tap bit
of credit, well a lot of credit due to those
two because they didn't have any really supporting cast either.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know, they did it what seventy two combined? Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
I mean, I will say this to your earlier point,
I mean, no one for Minnesota was in double digits
outside of Karl Anthony Towns and Anthony Edwards, who you know,
did their part. But as you kind of pointed out,
three point shooting for Karl Anthony Towns a bit off
at least a comparison to Luca and Kyrie, which that
was one of the margins of difference. And also I'd
say the bench points for Dallas just a little bit

(26:42):
more depth there.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
But bottom line is Dallas looked to me to.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
Be the better team.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
We heard the words of Anthony Edwards after their you know,
first three losses, and just didn't feel like Dallas could
beat them. I look at the other way, and I
feel like this was maybe an indication as to why
the NBA is the way it is with roster building.
And I think when you go back and look at
the run that the Golden State Warriors had Granted, Draymond

(27:08):
Green played a really big role, but Steph Curry, Klay
Thompson that backcourt and how it led them at least.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
You know, in scoring three point shooting.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
To a run of titles and to an amount of success.
Maybe that's what we're looking at here a little bit
with Dallas, with the combination of Kyrie and Luca now
and what that means moving forward, if this team could
continue to build out around them, you know, with their
roster looking on in the future years now, they still
have to work cut out for them.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
You got to take on the number one seed in
the Boston Celtics.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Which is a deep team, a very well coached team.
But I guess, let me just kick it to this
early impressions as far as LeVar, how you see Dallas
matching up with Boston for the NBA Finals.

Speaker 5 (27:52):
Well, I think it comes down to that. They've always
said you got to have a big three. That's what
they say. You got to have a big three if
you're gonna win it all. Dallas has a big two.
They do not have a big three. My question going
into this this Championship round is Ken, Kyrie and Luca

(28:17):
play their brains out every single evening. Now, I'll say this,
I don't know that this series stressed them.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
Out at all.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
So I don't I don't feel like they're coming into
a series where they're not going to have their energy
and have their legs. It wasn't like a bang bang,
grinded out type of series. You mentioned the Golden State
Warriors and you mentioned Draymond Green. There was no Draymond
Greens in this series. Other than Carl Anthony Towns knee

(28:51):
and light Lively in the head. There was no bang bang,
you know, throwdowns, grind it out out like Is that
an intentional foul? Is that a technical foul? Is that
there was no real grinding going on in that series.
And so to end it in six, they're they're not

(29:15):
going to be overly extended physically. But what they're going
to go up against and in this Celtics team is
just a super super like you mentioned, just a very
deep team. They they have four guys that can cover,
that can play defense, that can play both sides of

(29:36):
the court. They can do two ways like you know
and not you know, pause, they can do. They can
do both sides of the court. Will say they can
guard and they can shoot, and they can score. This
team they will slash. They will go to the realm
if if the if the realm is where the game is,
Boston will take it to the realm. And that's gonna

(29:58):
be to me, what Dallas is going to have to
show they can handle.

Speaker 4 (30:04):
They do have length.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
They you know, we've seen them show their length, and
we've seen Luca you know, drive and we've seen Kyrie
drive and them dish it off so many times for
easy you know, dunks and stuff like that. They have
shown they can do it. But if I would say
going into this championship round, what's the biggest challenge going

(30:25):
into it, It's going to be outside of Luca and Kyrie,
can the rest of this group bring something to the
table that gets them, that gets them over the hump
against a team that has four guys that you gotta guard.
I mean, Drew Holiday, he can get it done. I

(30:47):
mean that goes without saying Tatum and Baron White is
a score. It's just it's a It seems as though
it should be a foregone conclusion that Boston will be
too much for Dallas, but who knows. I mean, with
those two playing the way they're playing, it could be
an interesting it's going to be interesting series regardless, just

(31:09):
because of the storyline that has developed between Kyrie and Luca.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, and really the matchups and then who for Dallas
could step up, and so it's a good point. I mean,
it will be an interesting matchup to see how Boston
tries to defend Luca and Kyrie and try to take
them away. You know, most teams have a game plan,
but in the end, can you execute it doesn't work
the way Luca was shooting last night, I'm not sure
it does.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
It doesn't work. It's that whole old saying. You know,
you can't stop them. You can only hope to contain
the type of deal. Yeah, they're going to have to
take there. They're gonna have to understand that Luca and
Kyrie are going to be Luca and Kyrie. But are
those two, while they were enough in this series, are

(31:53):
those two if I'm if I'm Boston, I'm not saying
I'm totally sold out on trying to stop those guys.
I just want to bang on them, right. I want
to lean on them, I want to I want to
touch on them. I want to do a lot of
things to try to disrupt them and get into their heads.
But we got to if our four or five can

(32:15):
keep up with their two, our greater should be our greater.
Some should be bigger than theirs, and that should be enough.
And I don't know if that's how they're going to
approach it, but I would assume you're not looking at
it like I'm going to stop Luca and I'm going
to stop Kyrie.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
So let's match that.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
If it takes four to match there too, then let's
take four to match there too.

Speaker 4 (32:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I think the other thing that was kind of evident
just from watching, you know, last night's matchup, and then
you touched on a little bit in regards to Rudy Gobert.
But it's one of the reasons why the game is
the way it is, right now where you see the
backcourt really dominate premier shooting, et cetera, to build his score,
you know, over even just having a big man that
outside of his defensive presence doesn't work quite as well

(33:00):
when you've got a smaller lineup in there for Dallas
or and you've got to spread them out and he
can't protect the room because he's not able to, or
if he does, he's allowing someone else to.

Speaker 4 (33:09):
Be an open shooter on the outside.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
So unfortunately, when we talk about the way these rosters
are constructed now in the NBA, you look at a
bigger team, a team that had more length that couldn't
really do much with it in the Minnesota Timberwolves when
it's all said and done, especially when the Dallas Mavericks
are as hot as they were in particular Luca and
Kyrie like last night. So it's it's a different agent

(33:30):
in the NBA right now. But I feel like this
version of Dallas it could be interesting to see where
it leads to in the future. And if Mark Cuban,
who I think is one of the more likable owners
in the NBA, maybe he's polarizing to some degree.

Speaker 4 (33:44):
They've finally too Yeah, they haven't show him really at
any other time.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
You know what, though, I wonder how much of that
has to do with, you know, maybe his request to
not be on TV quite as much, you know, to
not be as part of it quite as much, only
because you know.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
He is his own brand now.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
I mean, obviously he's well known for his business acumen
and his success, you know, winning a championship with Dirk Novinski.
But he's also noticed this guy is like a TV personality.
He's he's what advertisements, he's doing all this stuff. So yeah,
I wonder if there's an element of, hey, this is Luca,
this is Kyrie, this is making about the team, don't
make it about me, even as much as sometimes maybe

(34:22):
he is in front of the camera.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
He just seems like that kind of guy, seems like
a good guy.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
So he's guy. Of course, he's that right guy. You know,
we griss, you know, we come from humble beginnings.

Speaker 4 (34:32):
Even though he lived in like Upper Saint Clair, but
he still said he delivered newspapers.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
Give us, give us a little taste of what Upper St.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Claire would be like.

Speaker 5 (34:39):
Hey, bruh, it just sounds like what it sounds like,
you know what, I mean upper says it's Claire.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
If it was just Saint Clair would be as nice.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
But well, now you know about don't you know about
Saint Clair? And don't they have a Saint Clair? And
maybe not Saint Clair? What is it? Uh?

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Y'all got a Saint Ignatius? Yuah, what do y'all have?
I feel like there's something else there, but no, I
say no. Saint Clair Villy in Pittsburgh is very different
from Upper Saint Clair. Yeah, if you went to Saint
Clair Village, you see more of you know, my kind
of of people versus uh, you know, yeah, his kind

(35:15):
of people. And then it's supposed to make well, Saint
Clair villagees was was a little bit different.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Bangers, Is that what you're saying? A whole bunch of bangers? Actually?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
St Clair, not not Upper St.

Speaker 4 (35:28):
Claire. You ain't got no bangers in Upper Saint Claire.
That's that's that's kind of ninja type stuff. You know.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
They put that that that pinky up when they're drinking.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
A little.

Speaker 5 (35:39):
When they say saying Upper Saint Clair, you're talking about
old money. That's that old money. That that that like
McDonald's like we created like we created the big Mac
money type money, like for real, for real, we invented
gum type stuff. You know. The person that invented chewing
gum is from Pittsburgh, like the people that created the

(35:59):
big they're from Pittsburgh. Yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (36:04):
There you go. Are those good things for you? Though?
I feel like gum and the big back now, right,
but became our pastime, right they used to cooking? Lord,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
I'm just like, those are the people that live in
Upper Saint Clair, those type of I guess you'd.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Want to be known for that.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
But at the same time, maybe you're not advertising it
as much now anymore. You know, I wouldn't like, Yeah,
I'm the gum guy, you know, the chewing I did
that I did.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
They're like, yeah, now gaves you cancer, Like I I
you know, I didn't know that.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
I did not know that.

Speaker 2 (36:35):
There you go, there you go. Yeah. I do want
to ask this question because it is a Friday. We've
got a lot going on a big show today. By
the way, as you mentioned earlier, kind of our song,
Petro's Papa Dakus will be joining us for the final
hour of today's show. So if you listen on Wednesdays

(36:57):
and you tune in or hear the guest segment that
Petros Papadakis comes in for, there's the old p we'd
like to call him. He'll be joining us for the
final hour to bring some more shenanigans to the show.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
But I can't help, but I feel like I'm missing something.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I know you missing something.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
I know what you're missing because we had the NBA
you know, now we've got the NBA Finals set. Uh
last night Game five, Panthers Rangers.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Panthers pulled out. They're on top three to two in
the NHL.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
The Kyats trying to figure there's something missing though, that's
that's not Jonas either.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
We know he's missing.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
We've already said our happy birthday to Jonas.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
It's a football Friday. It is.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Friday football, you know, Lee, Lee.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Come come on, come on, Lorena, come on, come on, Eddie,
come on Eddie.

Speaker 5 (37:59):
It's Coop there there there, Yeah, come on, come on,
let's let's let's do Brady's favorite.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Let's do this favorite here is.

Speaker 5 (38:12):
Come on Friday Night of the Football Friday. Now, Eddiefield
is damn football Briday Rock.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
Them, suck them. Yeah, score it.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Spy it. Come on. Yeah, oh oh sorry, Yeah, it's done.
It's done.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
And Lee's not here as well, by the way, he
went and took off for a well, you know, kind
of producing helping us out.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, he's got it all coming next.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Up next on Two Pros and a Cup of Joke
come to you live from the tiraq dot com studios.
We've got an m v P, not just one time,
a two time MVP who hasn't been around as much.

Speaker 4 (38:51):
This off season.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Does LaVar have a problem with it? We'll tell you
on the other side.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app What's.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Pop and everybody, Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe or is
they like to call it two Pros and a Cup
of Pee? When I'm here for the final hour, my
name is Petris Papadakas. It's LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, your
favorite morning show in national radio. And before we get
to anything else. It is time to check in with

(39:32):
South Shore's own Eddie Garcia. I will block you from
joining my ELX club. Eddie. I. I, well, it's probably
for the best.

Speaker 4 (39:41):
I'm being honest. But the.

Speaker 8 (39:44):
Name of the show for today though is phenomenal. Thank
you for that. Let's get to the NBA.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
What do you mean is that? Is that? Are you
being pious? No, I'm not. I was not prepared to
hear two pros and.

Speaker 8 (39:56):
A cup of pete.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Oh, I'm sorry about that. Was no, it was fantast
I got to compose myself.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
Thank you for that. In the NBA, we had Game
five of the Western Conference Finals, the Mavericks taking down
the Timberwolves one twenty four to one ZHO three in Minnesota.
Luca Dodgets thirty six points and ten rebounds, twenty points
in the first quarter alone. That was more than the
entire Minnesota team in the first quarter. They had nineteen points.
Kyrie Irving also thirty six points in the win, Karl
Anthony Towns from Minnesota twenty eight points twelve boards, and

(40:22):
Anthony Edwards twenty eight points as well.

Speaker 3 (40:24):
In defeat Dallas.

Speaker 8 (40:25):
The five seat in the West is onto the NBA
Finals for the third time in franchise history. They take
the series four games to one. Opening game of the
NBA Finals next Thursday in Boston against the Celtics NHL
Game five Eastern Conference Finals, the Panthers scored two third
period goals beat the Rangers in New York three to two.
President's Trophy winning Rangers now on the brink of elimination
Florida with a three two lead the series. They can

(40:46):
close it out with a win on home ice in
Game six Saturday in Florida. Baseball Brewers beat the cub
six ' four. You had the Yankees over the Angels
eight to three. Tigers shut out the Red Sox five
not think. Jack Flaherty and two relievers combining on a
two hitch shoutout for Detroit. Astros shut out the Maritors
for nothing. Houston starter Spencer Araghetti six shutout innings. He
and four three leaders combining on a four yeah shutout

(41:07):
Ryan Jeffers a couple of homers for the Twins. They
beat the Royal seven to six. Mets edge the Diamondbacks
three two. Arizona starter Zach Gallon left after six pitches
with a hamstring injury. Nationals beat the Braves Street one
and was the raise walking off with a sixty five,
went over the a's and twelve WNBA the Storm beat
the fever one oh three eighty eight. Caitlin Clark twenty points.

(41:27):
Kaitlyn Clark twenty points.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
You see her getting mad?

Speaker 8 (41:31):
I did, yeah, got a little. She bowed up chest
to chest. There one in eight.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Now the record for your Indiana fever.

Speaker 8 (41:40):
NFL Miami Dolphins wide receiver Jalen Waddle reaching agreement on
a three year eighty four point seventy five million dollar
contract extension includes seventy six million guaranteed, makes him one
of the top five paid highest.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Paid receivers in the NFL.

Speaker 8 (41:52):
Now back to LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and Petros Papadagas
in the Tyrack dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Oh, by the way, I'll be back in the third
hour on Monday and Tuesday of hex week. I mean,
Jonas is really doing a victory lap. He really is
for his birthday.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Well, he doesn't do it very often.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
In fact, it's a running joke, Petros, because for about
eight years we would never know his birthday and so
he'd wait till the file segment of the show to
remind people it was his birthday and we missed it again.
So that's gone for like almost a decade.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Well now he's got it coming then, yes.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
So in the first segment, we discussed celebrity relationship, rekindling,
auto tune, the etymology of rap, television rights, injustice. All
kinds of things were covered but not solved, There's no
doubt about it. And what I like to do when
I'm on with you guys is solve the world's problems,

(42:48):
and God knows we have them. And a huge problem
came up the other day and I'm not letting it slide.
We don't even have to play the clip. It's on
Fox Sports Radio and FS one Colin Cowherd show right
before Bruce Feldman went on. And it's funny because Bruce
Feldman was being wired up at the Fox studios and

(43:08):
you guys know exactly where I'm talking about, yep, And
Colin was giving this take about how USC should no
longer play Notre Dame and won't play Notre Dame anymore
because of the tough Big ten schedule and all that,
and Bruce cringed and the sound guy was like there's
something wrong, and he said, no, Colin just said something terrible.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
You know, the sound guy thought he screwed up Bruce's ear.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
Just an unbelievable thing for Colin to say for those
of us involved with USC football in our lifetime, and
I would imagine Brady, which goes the same for you.
I can't speak for Notre Dame. Although there is a
certain truth in what Colin is saying, college football is
moving away and further and further away from the traditional
things that make it desirable to some and different from

(43:59):
the NF And it is a little bit confounding to
hear somebody say that about that game, if you've ever
played in that game, or been to that game, or
know any history about the game. I was pretty I
hear call and say a lot, but that one really
triggered me.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
He came to LA and moved to Manhattan Beach and
saw Pete Carroll a couple times on a beach cruiser
and became like a USC guy, right, And it's amazing
to me some of the things that come out of
his mouth about USC. This to me is the most
egregious of all time.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
So help me understand, really his position.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
He's saying that the rivalry shouldn't go on because the
sport's becoming less regional, not worth it to USC.

Speaker 3 (44:45):
They can't take this schedule hit.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
I'm not even sure how to how to look at that.
I mean, it's that it's not being Maybe Shane can
find it while we're talking about it. You heard this,
didn't you, LeVar?

Speaker 5 (44:58):
I did not hear, but I did get like kind
of the content. I mean, the way I kind of
took it was when when they basically dismantled the Pac
twelve that you you kind of taken away the mystique
of maybe what USC represents that college football. Making a
decision like that kind of has set the tone putting

(45:20):
them into Big ten to kind of decentralize, you know
what we have seen as rivalries like I've seen that
with Pitt and Penn State, right Like, yeah too.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
But but here's here's what makes it different to me.
Are you guys trying to find the clip? Is that
what's going on?

Speaker 4 (45:39):
Yeah? Because I heard it in my ear.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
No, you did a good job with that, Levardo. You
powered right through that. Thank you, very professional radio behavior by.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
You appreciate that little things. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
The point is USC Notre Dame has nothing to do
with conferences, which is why it should be protected forever.
It was an inter It was and is an intersectional
college football rivalry, the best one and really the only one,
and it has one hundred year history. One year and

(46:08):
every other year is about the leaves changing in the Midwest,
and then the next year is about Thanksgiving weekend in
Los Angeles and palm trees and the holidays. And Newt
Rockney's wife. Isn't that the game isn't Newt Rockney's wife
and Howard Jones's wife, the sc and Notre Dame coach, respectively.

(46:28):
They were friends and uh, Newt Rockney's wife had family
in Los Angeles, and that's why the Thanksgiving and Howard Jones'
wife loved to see the leaves change, which doesn't happen
here in southern California, so that's why they did that.
And it goes so far beyond that. There's something about
the game if you play in it. Obviously, Brady played

(46:49):
very significant role in some of the most famous football
games of all time between USC and Notre Dame. And
to hear somebody say that it just it triggered me,
beyond triggered me, and it pushed me into a place
where it's just like, it's great to have change in
college football. There's a lot of money being made. But
the more you make it like the NFL, and the

(47:11):
more you try to make it like the NFL, you're
going to lose a lot of what made it popular
in the first place. And we're losing that balance we
you know, just kind of putting a cap on it.
I mean, it would be one thing if you're taking
a stance that you know USC doesn't need it or
want it because of the distance traveled, et cetera. But
they joined the Big Ten, so like them, going to

(47:33):
the Midwest is.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Going to be more often than not anymore.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
And so it's it's not even it doesn't even make
sense from that perspective where most of the rivalries within
college sports, college football in particular are regional, you know,
because of the fact of Ohio State, Michigan and the
border boarding each other in the states, et cetera. And
some of the best players from Michigan have come out
of the state of Ohio and just how all the
history behind that. But but to your point, what makes

(47:58):
college football great. And one of the reasons why I
think it's allowed itself to grow to the point where
it's become more nationalized than regionalized is because of the history,
because of the tradition, people get introduced to how people
live their life in the Midwest, for example, or down south.
As to Michael stone Breaker Chris Zorich, you know, we
learned about these people. I learned about him as a kid.

(48:20):
You learned about Marinovich in his habits. But even even
how they prepare for a game, Like what does tail
getting look like in the South? Like you go down
to the grove and you see all these people dressed
up and the chandeliers and these tents, and you're.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Like, holy cow, people do all of this for tale. Yeah,
that's what tailgate looks like.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
And then what does it look like when you go
up north and it's cold outside and the way people
go about kind of creating their own tail getting atmosphere,
it's dramatically different. And so it's it's part of the
culture of who everyone is, and that's what I'm kind
of get to. And that's where again it I didn't
you know, I didn't really uh, I don't pay much
attention to what's being settle on some other shows on
Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
But I would say this is it's It comes off
as casual.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
You don't want to hear what Cavino and Rich said
next about the Mets, or what big Head and Slickhead
said about the Mets, or what they said about the Mets,
and also the Mets, and maybe we should talk about
the Mets.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
Oh no, son of a bitch, the Mets.

Speaker 4 (49:15):
All right?

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Here here is a Colin coward. Sound here it is
about Notre Daniel.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
Here's the counters with the USC.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
Shut up.

Speaker 9 (49:22):
So now USC is going to have on their schedule
Ohio State, top two program, top three brogram, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin,
and only the best of the PAC twelve Oregon, Washington,
UCLA their rival. I'm gonna ask a question, why do
they have to keep playing Notre Dame?

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (49:44):
Colin? The history?

Speaker 4 (49:46):
Oh, give me a break.

Speaker 9 (49:47):
College football punted on history last year.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
Punt you wow.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
So there's Colin.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
So let me just respond to that by saying, first off,
they don't play those teams year calling now they have
a terrible schedule this year and lives in LA and
he hears the bitching about it, and you don't even
know how bad a schedule is until the games are
actually played, because these teams they're not even formed in
the summer anymore.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
I mean, the magazines don't even.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Be very true. Yeah, that's very true.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
The odd thing too, is the fact that, like we've heard,
I'm just talking about yesterday, USC trying to get out
of the LSU game, and it's like, all right, well
maybe if they don't want to take, you know, if
they want to continue to do it, I'm.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Sure they don't have to.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Sure, Notre Dame could bring back an annual rival with Michigan,
you know, that's that's been another storied rivalry that you know,
I remember back we played him every year and that
was actually a bigger rivalry to me because I got
recruited by both.

Speaker 3 (50:41):
That was who I picked between at Ohio States.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
So those games to be mattered more the players and
those teams at least in our region recruited mattered more
because I saw those guys like they either came with
me to Notre Dame or they went to Michigan or
Ohio State. Yeah, I mean, we used to swear the
whole game against UCLA, but against Notre Dame, he didn't
know most of those knew Korean exactly, you know, but
that most of the guys. It wasn't a talking type
of game. It was very it was very different. It

(51:06):
was very different.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
Can throw something at you, guys, who's the most prized
brand in all of college football?

Speaker 4 (51:15):
Even if you want to say it's debatable.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
It's not. Okay, and then behind it is Texas.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
So if you're thinking about the realignment that just took place,
you have really it was packed power foud.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
Now it's like what power power for?

Speaker 5 (51:33):
I mean, but at some point isn't it perceivable to
think that it becomes like the power three.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
It's perceivable that it becomes just the power to the.

Speaker 4 (51:44):
Power the power.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Okay, Now now think about this though within the power
you still even in the NFL, you still have the
different sides.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
You got the AFC, you got the NFC. Like turns
into that.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Right, is there the possibility that this is a flex,
this is like a play in turn? Are still trying
to get the most prized brand out there? Because again
I brought up Penn State and pitt Well. When that
when that rivalry got established and hurt. You recall, well,
Penn State was an independent, they were just like Notre Dame.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Yeah, I remember when Penn State was an independent for
a long time.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
Okay, then they get drawn into the money and the
play with what took place with the Big ten, so
they end up being a big ten?

Speaker 4 (52:24):
Are they trying?

Speaker 5 (52:24):
I mean, is there the possibility that at some point
you got to get Notre Dame? And if we can't
get Notre Dame, there has to almost in a way
be a squeeze out in terms of.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
That's that's the only way it would happen.

Speaker 4 (52:38):
I could tell you. That's so that's what I'm throwing
out at you.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Forever they have their own deal, so they don't. They've
resisted it forever because they have that, But.

Speaker 5 (52:46):
Can they continue to resist it with the where the
lape of college football is going.

Speaker 3 (52:51):
Every time they sign a new deal.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, well money is, but you got to play on it.
There's there's two components. Money's won, which to Petros's point,
they continually are allowed to because of the TV contract
and because of their agreement with the ACC and how
those moneys kind of flow In the other portion of
it is until they're kept out of having a chance
of winning a national championship, and they make concessions order

(53:15):
to be a part of it. So, for example, in
this expanded college football playoff we'llee this year, there's twelve
teams that get in. Notre Dame cannot get a buy
so even if they are a top four team in
the rankings, they will be playing in the first round
and they will be hosting a first round game. That
was their concession was the fact that they're not a
part of a conference. They don't play a conference championship game,
so they only play twelve. So if they do have

(53:37):
to play a thirteenth game, that thirteenth game would come
in the first round, a home game for them, which
a is great for revenue, right, but also for them
if you look at it.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
It's a win.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
They don't have to worry about potentially playing losing in
a conference championship weekend and not making the playoff, or
potentially not hosting a whole playoff game. So to me,
the way I look at it, the quick answer is no,
as long as the economics are there and their path
to playing for a national championship is there, for football,
they will always stay independent.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
But you're right, LeVar.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I mean we are all like standing in the sand
into a certain degree and kind of resisting the tide
of this just becoming completely like the NFL, which in
certain ways has to happen. The players have to be
paid with the amount of money being made now and
all those different things. But the structure of it, that's great,

(54:29):
but you have to I mean, there's a reason that
Oregon and Oregon Stay are going to continue to play
Washington Washington State. I mean it means something to the
people that watch the sport. And if you how much
can you alienate your fan base and still make all
the money you're making. Will be interesting to see with
college football in the next ten years.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Now.

Speaker 2 (54:50):
And I will say this. You know, we used to
play Notre Dame and you would feel it. They were
a different It was a big man on, big man
game and and it took a lot out of you.
And it feels like us he is going to have
a lot of that schedule this year.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
If Colin feels like he's a part of the USC
you know, fan base and all that, and he's worried
about the physicality drink, worried about the physicality when you're
drinking your elder Berry smoothie and talking to some lawyer
from Brentwood about the Wisconsin game. I'm sure it can
be very upsetting, yes, but again the physicality, I I
can see how.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
He would want to shy away from that. I can
totally see that, right.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
But he's not like Zuckerberg is getting involved in DJJ,
not challenging people out there. Colin would never squad in
the B gap ever, he'd be a safety on the
kickoff team.
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