06/03/2024 – Best of 2 Pros & a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros & a Cup of Joe, Jonas is still out in the streets somewhere celebrating his birthday, so it's Brady and LaVar runnin' the show (along with Petros "The Old P" Papadakis for the final hour)! The guys kick off the show reacting to Drew Brees saying he wants to get back into the live broadcast game... in PRIMETIME. In other news, Lions HC Dan Campbell talked about what the NFL would be losing were it to continue to shorten the preseason: development for young players. Lions OC Ben Johnson gave some insight as to why he has yet to take a head coaching job. The guys also debate Disney World vs. Disney Land vs. Knott's Berry Farm before getting into the excessive foul on Caitlin Clark, along with Angel Reese's reaction. Plus, more fun with a brand new edition of ICYMI!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:34):
What ohh huh, we'll mixing up a little bit today.

Speaker 4 (00:40):
Huh. I guess so.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Are you a little disappointed?

Speaker 4 (00:44):
No, not at all?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hi you what's going on? That's LeVar Arinson. I'm Brady Quinn.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
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he's still celebrating his birthday, some much needed time off,

(01:16):
but he will be back later on this week and
for the final hour of today's show. As we talked
about the end of last week, it's two pros and
a cup of pea, all right, So take that however
you will, but that is what we've got in store
for you later today in the final hour, Petris Papadacus

(01:36):
will be coming in bringing his cup of pea, is
what he'll be bringing along with him.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
But speaking of well, I won't go that direction.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
What oh okay, you.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Know a lot of things came out over the weekend
that I found kind of interesting, one in particular that
deals with a Hall of Famer and in regards to
broadcast a kind of something we do Now, would you say, LeVar,
if like someone's already done something, We've already seen them,
it hasn't worked out. Typically, when's the last time you

(02:10):
saw someone do that in TV? And then you saw
them reservice somewhere else where it has and they've gotten better.
Because there actually is one person that I can kind
of think of that falls in that category.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
I can maybe I don't know, would you call Shannon
sharp A because I know he was an analyst at
for what was it for? For one station? Or not
in one station, but for one company and then it
didn't really work out there.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
Then it didn't work out though, like he, like Shannon Sharp,
had a big platform. Yes, I'm saying someone that like
they went into it, they did it for a bit
and it did not work out, and then they took
a hiatus and then wanted to try.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
To come back to it. Because that's what Drew Brees
is trying to do.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah, I know Drew Brees is trying I'm trying to
think of someone who did it outside of that one
popping up in my mind. But the point is is
it isn't very many that that's the point, Like, I
haven't heard of it. The few that I've heard of
trying to do it and it didn't work out, they
didn't resurface like it was. You know, it's time to

(03:20):
move on from it.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So who you got, Well, the only third person I
can think of at the top of my head was
Randy Moss initially worked at Fox Sports, Okay, went to ESPN,
and I don't know that it didn't work at Fox,
but he got extremely so much better, I mean extreme
improvement from where it was to where he got to
ESPN to the point where you're like, Okay, like this

(03:41):
dude's really good.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
He's fun. Yes he has, and so that was maybe
an example.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
But when I look at this, it's a little different
because Drew Brees had a small stint. He was able
to do notre dame games for NBC Sports, he was
able to work some in studio for NBC Sports, and
after that there wasn't really a renewal. There was maybe
a thought some people thought he had some other adventures,
other things going on, but it seemed like they moved

(04:08):
on rather quickly.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
And I don't know if it was.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
A I don't know if he didn't want to be
calling college games and he didn't feel like he needed
to earn the stripes, which you could understand that perspective.
I mean again, Tony Romo went from doing nothing to
calling the biggest game for CBS, which when you think
about that decision now looking in retrospect, it doesn't look
so hot, only.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
Because of the criticism that he's continued to receive.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
People questioning his work ethic, constant reports coming out about
chemistry with nance and everything else that comes along with it,
and maybe it's worn a little bit thin. So you
look at that decision and go, well, CBS did it
with Tony Romo, so why could they do with Drew Brees.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
The interesting thing about that is is they did.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Drew Brees didn't even talk about CBS the games he wants,
specifically that he named Monday Night Football all of a sudden,
ESPN held by Troy Aikman NBC, which already there, Sunday
Day Football with Chris Collinsworth, and then Amazon Thursday Night
Football with Kirk Kirk Street, which you know of all
three of those guys, like, those are your consummate pros.
Those are guys who've done it for a long time.

(05:12):
There's a reason they're doing it in primetime and one
of those networks you already worked with. Yet he's claiming
he feels like he could be the best at it,
which I don't begrudge it anyway.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I mean, look, if you have all four.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
People who want to go out there and achieve their goals,
to achieve success. But like we've seen this before, like,
what's to make us think it's going to be any
different this time around?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
Well, I think the biggest point that to me that
you're making is it's just a small piece of real estate,
right like from from channel to channel. It's not that
you just named the A groups. So if he wanted
to call games, I don't think that any station would
want to pass up on that opportunity. But it's the

(05:57):
games that he's going to call that that would be
the difference. If you're saying specifically, I want one of
those pieces of real estate where there's already someone that
resides there and of the reputation and status and stature
that those names you just ran off. Hold that doesn't
that doesn't make sense right, Like to me and Drew Brees,

(06:22):
I think he handles himself well. I think I believe
I maybe heard one one or two games that he called.
I mean I obviously saw him and heard him on
on the football desk on football what is it Football
in America.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Or Football Soccer Americas.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Yeah, something like that. I've heard him on the show
and and there. I mean, I don't think he's a
horrible like he's not horrible on TV. Like I don't
look at him and say, oh, this guy doesn't belong
on TV. I just think that the guys that he
would want or the position the places that he would

(07:01):
want to call the games. Those guys are that good.
I mean, that just is what it is. I mean,
Olsen just got bumped for God, I hadn't ever done it,
but that's a Tom Brady. Does this turn into a
Tom Brady versus Drew Brees? Like you know, these guys
we go back to the Big Ten, he goes back

(07:23):
to Purdue, he goes back to Michigan. I mean, is
this one of those things where this surfaces and becomes
a conversation because they're still in competition, you know, And
I wouldn't be surprised at that word the thought process
that Drew Brees is still trying to prove that he's
every bit of, if not better than Tom Brady at
what it is that they do. So I don't know

(07:45):
what it is, but I mean, obviously it's not that's
not something that would unless they found a way to
work him into the crew that's already there existing how
that would work out on No, But in terms of
him just taking that spot, yeah, I don't. I don't
think that that would be feasible to think that that

(08:06):
would happen.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
It's interesting you bring that point up about the competition
with Tom Brady, right, they were battling towards the end
of their careers, not only against each other in the
record books, but literally against each other in the same
division as Tom Brady moved to the Tampa Bay Bucks,
and they obviously had to play one another twice a year,
and then obviously in the playoffs as well, in particular
that you know, going on the Super Bowl run here.

(08:28):
If I'm not mistaken, but I think it's what I
look at with this was this scenario with a guy
like Drew Brees is. You know, he was reportedly talking
last week about how he would have been able to
play into his forties and play, you know, three or
four more years whatever would have been at the end
of his career if it wasn't for his shoulder. And

(08:51):
I don't know that anyone's you know, going to dispute that.
I think that at the end of his career he
had a serious shoulder injury. It's why he didn't end
up in Miami Dolphin. Maybe Dolphin fans remember that they
didn't pass the medical exam or it didn't have I
guess a great review from the medical exam in regards
to his shoulder's health, which ultimately led to the Miami

(09:11):
Dolphins signing Dante Culpepper, the head coach.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Back then Nick Saban, and the rest is kind of history.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Saman moves on, goes back to Alabama, Drew Brees ends
up being a New Orleans Saint. He pairs up with
Sean Payton, they win a Super Bowl, they sent records together.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
The rest is history.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
But that Sergey golar parent shoulder did have a shelf life,
and at the end of his career, if people were
gonna be critical about Drew Brees and the Saints offense,
it was ding a dunk, a very much short passing,
controlled offensive game. He was setting completion percentage records, but
it was also an offense that you felt like, man,

(09:47):
they're leaving some plays out there to be had because
there's just not a downfield passing game And a lot
of that had to do with the arm strength and
the shoulder of Drew Brees at that point. So no
one's going to dispute that. But it's also been years
since he played and we all kind of realized that, so, like,
why something like that reservices He's now been out of
the booth now for at least a couple of years,

(10:09):
Like why that's resurfing, reservicing, Now why is itur Like
it doesn't really make a whole lot of sense. And
then the other thing is he's talking about jobs that
are taken like if you're Achemin, if you're Herbstreet, if
you're Collinsworth, Like, you know, there's guys who are going
to retire that maybe wanting to look to get into
calling games that haven't done it before, are just retiring
and immediately want to maybe jump into that world. You know,

(10:32):
we're seeing that with Jason Kelce, who I think is
gonna be fantastic on TV working for ESPN, But you know,
for Drew Brees, like we've already seen this and it's
interesting because he's the type of guy that was an
extremely hard worker. And yet when you watched and then
this is coming from a Notre Dame fan because I
got to watch their games and hear his calls, it

(10:54):
just felt like there wasn't as much of a desire
to be able to know.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
The team, know the storylines, do the job.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And I don't know if that had a byproduct to
do it again, the level he was calling, he wasn't
excited or maybe he was told something, Hey do this
for a year or two and it will get you into,
you know, calling bigger games. But something about it just
seems off. And it seems off now that he'd even
be bringing this up when no one else is talking
about it, and he's only going to have more competition

(11:21):
as the years pass on by if he doesn't want
to call a game that's not one of those big
primetime games or number one games.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, I would say I think it's an interesting point
to raise in terms of how long will some of
these guys stay in the booth. I mean, I don't
see any of them leaving the booth in the foreseeable future.
So are you putting that out there now just to say, Okay, well,

(11:52):
i've heard through the grapevine that this and this this
person may not be returning at some point in time.
I don't see that being the case. But other than that,
where you're you're floating your name out there for public
public consumption or for public opinion to help maybe decision
makers make a make a decision or think about it.

(12:15):
I don't really understand what the motive would be either,
because again I don't see a good and whether he's
good or not so good, he's legendary. We know that,
and legendary counts for something a lot of times, but
don't I couldn't see a good like a really talented

(12:37):
guy being able to even get those positions right, Like,
you're absolutely lights out, you're amazing, it doesn't matter, you're
still not you're boxed out of getting one of those
those positions. They're just very few, very few. So I
would just wonder and be curious he is he open

(13:01):
And I don't want to say is he humble enough?
But maybe that might be a part of it as well.
Are you open enough? Are you humble enough to actually
entertain doing a different telecast? There are plenty of opportunities
for you to prove that you're good enough and you're
talented enough with your resume and body of work as

(13:24):
a player to add that on. Where Brady Quinn doesn't
feel that way when he's watching him, Maybe you you
do need to figure it out on a different team
and then your resume works for you to be able
to climb the ladder. You don't get basically air quotes
turns into a special teams player because his resume is

(13:47):
too good. So if he were to go and do
a lesser of a you know, a different a different group.
You're not a part of the a group. That's okay,
because your resume is strong enough for you to you
can climb the ladder differently than anyone else based upon
what your accolades were as a player.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
Right And and you know clearly to your point about
just being able to have multiple ways of broadcasting doing something.
I mean, we're watching what Peydon Manning and Eli Manning
are doing. Dope, they have an alternate broadcast. We see
those sorts of things pop up all the time. Now
that they're becoming more and more popular. Why not why
not pitch that to a network? And I think the

(14:29):
other thing is if you look at how Peyton's done it.
You know, Peyton has his own companies at Omaha Production,
so he can control all of it. You know, when
you're you know, when you're out there as a broadcaster
and you are kind of at the mercy of the
network and you're you're working for them, it's a different story.
You don't have quite as much control about how you
go about your creative content and what you're doing and

(14:50):
how you're doing and why you're doing it. You know,
and then maybe even the budget sometimes that goes along
with that. So there's a lot of moving parts to it.
I don't know if Drew Brees wants to do that.
It seems like maybe he just you know, wants the job,
wants the spotlight, wants to be in that big stage.
And that's more My concern about is because we already
watched you, you know, be able to at least have

(15:10):
the opportunity to call games and in studio and and
to your point, like he was fine probably in studio
as compared to what we saw during a game, at
least I think. I don't want to speak for all
Notre ofad fans. There might be some Notre Dame fans
that loved his broadcast. I know for a fact there's
many that didn't. But I'm just saying from what I watched,
and I'm not going to try to speak for them.
My personal opinion was it was not the same reflection

(15:34):
of what Drew Brees was as a player, and I
thought that was a guy who was a first ballot
Hall of Famer, worked his tail off and then he.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
You know, kind of got into the broadcast poop.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But I think maybe in some ways took the opportunity
for granted and didn't do what he needed to do.
I think to prove that, hey, I should be calling
Sunday football, because if that was the case, I think
it would have been a you know, home run and
he would have slid into that spot. But now after
you're taking year years off to look back, it's just
just a little bit odd.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
The timing of it is just a little bit odd,
at least in my opinion.

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Speaker 1 (19:03):
You missed it, and stepping in today for Lee lap
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Speaker 7 (19:14):
Oh I'm happy to be here, guys. I'm happy to
be here. I got a few good things for you
guys today. So we'll start off with this. Like he teased, Luka,
Doncic did have his postgame beer confiscated by a Mavericks
executive the other day. After their Game five victory over
the Timberwolves, Luca decided to crack a beer in celebration,
and cameras caught that. But they also caught a Mavericks executive,

(19:36):
Michael Finley, taking the beer from him. And obviously Luca's
ability to manage his wade has been a bit of
a concern in recent years, especially, so this is naturally
getting a little bit more attention than it otherwise would.
But his reaction to having the beer was pretty funny.
He looked pretty disappointed, downtrodden.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Wait wait wait, wait wait, So Michael Finley was taking
the bear away from him because of his weight.

Speaker 7 (20:01):
Well, I think it was more for the like the
optics of it, because Luca has struggled so much with
weight recently. Michael Finley was kind of doing him as
solid by you know, doing.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Them a solid because he's gonna light beer.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Yeah, I think he drew more attention to him. It
was one beer after you're going to the NBA Finals,
Like you just findshed out the series.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Yeah, we see guys like popping champagne bottles half the
time before they go to the world.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Seriously, you know, it's like, what's one beer?

Speaker 1 (20:32):
But now there are like fourteen teams I believe, based
on the research I've done, that do.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Not allow alcohol in the locker room in the NBA.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Michael Finley, by the way, is one of my more
my favorite players of the past. I don't know, I
just I love his style of play. I loved them
back when I was in college. I feel like if
there's anyone wh's got a gauge on stuff, it's probably
Michael Finley. That's like one of the players that I think,
you you know, it was like a team guy, the
type of guy that you again, he's working for the

(21:02):
organization for a reason, you know, he's just he was.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
A consumate pro so I understand his perspective on this.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
But there's also like the European perspective on things where
they start drinking alcohol a lot younger over there, so
they don't view alcohol that the same way we do,
where a lot of people wait till they're twenty one
years of age before they had their first sip of
a beer. That's just not how it works overseas. So
he's probably thinking, like, yeah, dude, I go, I go

(21:29):
work out, I have a few beers after.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Like, that's just how it is. We had an old hockey.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Coach at Notre Dame, and whether or not this is true,
he used to tell me that he'd throw two cases
in the locker room after a hockey game. This is
way back in the day, and he makes sure the
boys finished them before they come back out.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Now, I don't know if there's any truth of that,
but like that was how things used to be.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Now obviously there's an entire different stigma attached alcohol.

Speaker 7 (21:55):
Yeah, it's interesting stuff, but anyway, we'll move on. So
and NC double recently could result in Cam Rising, the
Utah quarterback, playing his eighth year of college football.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
So he's been in college since twenty eighteen.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
He's coming back this year right that which is his
year seven, that's his seventh year.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
But there's a new court ruling made so that unlimited
transfers between schools are now completely allowed. If you guys
saw that. But and that came out of an NCAA settlement.
But the interesting thing is that one part of that
settlement makes it so that players who had to sit
out a year under the old transfer rules, which is
twenty nineteen or later, and are still in college, we'll
get that extra year of eligibility restored.

Speaker 4 (22:36):
It's all very confusing to me at this point.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
No, they're making it retroactive, So they're basically saying the
rule now moving forward, where players were penalized for transferring
and losing that year of eligibility, are now going to
regain that year.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Of eligibility, I mean eight year.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
This is like, as someone post the question the other day,
like why is there a limitation on eligibility for the NCAA,
Like you couldn't you see someone just playing at the
college level for eight years? Now ten years however that school,
however long the school was the school, Like this is
leading down that road. I don't think that's a good
thing in my opinion. Like, you've got your window of time.

(23:15):
It should be four years of eligibility and then you
move on after that.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
This is just getting ridiculous. By the way. I love
camp Rising.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
He's gonna be one of the top quarterbacks this year.
I think it would go to the NFL anyway after
this year. I don't think he's gonna hang around. Oh
good be gone. Oh man, he's gonna be. He's gonna
be our Age's playing in college like the Van Wilder
of college sports.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Just say I do it.

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What would you do if this was my interests on
There'd be some judgment passed on me. I would allahoe?

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Speaker 4 (24:06):
I'm gonna send it right now. Come on, man, I'm
gonna send it right now. I'm sending it right now.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
You know Jonas hasn't He's half the problem.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I'm actually gonna I'm gonna email him today or text
him today and make sure he does.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
We need to get on this because it takes a
while to turn it over.

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You know, I'm gonna send a song right now while
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All right, you said it. You'll listen to two pros
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You live from the ti iraq dot Com studios. I'm
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He'll be taken over and leading us to a path
where really no one knows.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Speaking of a path that no one knows kind of
felt like last year Ben Johnson didn't really know what
he wanted, whether it want to become a head coach
somewhere else or stand Detroit be the offensive coordinator. He
ended up staying or electing to stay Detroit. I've heard
multiple reports after the fact, most that I kind of
took issue with, only because it feels like when a
team doesn't get their number one guy, LeVar, then it

(25:09):
starts to be like, well, he wasn't our number one guy. No,
we turned him down right, No, no, no, no, Like the
boyfriend girlfriend scenario. You know it was them, you know,
they like I broke up with them. It wasn't the
other way around, you typically get those sorts of conversations. Well,
Ben Johnson is able to provide a little bit more
clarity on the subject.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
Let's let's take a listen.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
Something that really resonates with me, is, okay, eight openings
this past year. What would just set the over under
in three years? Help may still have jobs? Shit, Yeah,
I'd put the over under at four and a half.
I would say there's a good chance five of them
are out of jobs in three years. And so when
I look at it from that perspective, if I get

(25:49):
the opportunity to go down that road, it's it's about
how do I get to that second contract.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
How do I set myself up that the stars need
to align. I'm not I'm not going to do it
just to do it.

Speaker 8 (26:00):
I love what I'm doing right now, love it, Love
I love where I'm at, my family, loves where we're at,
love the people that.

Speaker 3 (26:07):
We're doing it with.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
And so I'm not willing to go down the other
path yet unless i feel really good about how it's
going to unfold.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
That's Ben Johnson, the current offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions,
and look, he's been a big reason, in my opinion,
why Jared Goff has had success, the Alliance have had success. Offensively,
He's been up for head coaching jobs, you know, year
after year since he's taken over there in Detroit. His creativity,
his ability to find ways of getting the playmakers the ball,

(26:38):
all of that has been on display. And I've listened
to his words, kind of read the reports some of
his quotes, and I don't find anything wrong with that.
The guy's very pragmatic in his approach. I think he's
looking out of the very realistic perspective, and I think
he understands his value too, where he's going to get
other shots and opportunities if he's as good as he

(26:58):
thinks he is.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
And I think I think he's proven that.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
So I'm not sure why more coaches don't take that opportunity,
And maybe it's because they're in a spot or a
situation that they don't feel as good about. Where you
look at what Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell and the
Detroit Lions organization now is built up, guys like Chris
Pielman who are a part of it, and the Ford
family and the way they've transitioned now with this group.

(27:23):
Maybe it's important because he does feel so comfortable there
and confident there, as opposed to sometimes other you know,
assistant coaches or coordinators are like, man, this thing might
not be the same next year. You know, we could
have a terrible season. They might can all of us.
How much do you think I has to do with that?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
It's very that's very true, and it's very realistic. And
I mean today's NFL, they hire and fire pretty quickly.
You know, the turnover can be very very quick. You're
seeing guys get just one year, like they haven't even
gotten a full entire season, sometimes before judgment is being
dropped them. Listen, I think that it's it's by person,

(28:04):
It's it's by mentality, it's by goals, it's by a
lot of different variables, I would say, and how you
go about approaching what you want your trajectory to be,
what you want your accomplishment to be, uh, and where
you ultimately want to end up. Listen, you're you're mentioning

(28:26):
the Detroit Lions. That was not a favorable situation for
a coach to walk into. You know, it's much like
what's going on in Carolina right now. You're trying to
figure out which way is up as an organization with
with that that team, That's a lot like how it
was in Detroit until Dan Campbell got there and whatever

(28:50):
it is that took place, the culture shift that that
took place, the people that that Dan Campbell and company
were a part of hiring to create what they've created.
It's taking time to build that when you look at
something being built a certain type of way. And if
I'm Ben Johnson and I've seen things and unfold the

(29:11):
way they're unfolding in Detroit, I sit there and I
ask myself a simple question. If I go to a
certain a certain franchise, do I get that amount of time?
Do I get the fear opportunity? Are they going to
let me hire who I need to hire? Am I
going to have the like I said, Am I going

(29:32):
to be able to get the hires and have the
amount of time to bring in the type of players
develop the culture? Because ultimately, that's generally the only way
you're going to change a failing organization, and generally speaking,
the only way you're going to get a head coaching
job is if it was a failing team. So there's
just so many different variables that are a part of it.

(29:54):
Some coaches are like, look, I'm gonna take my chance.
I don't get a chance all the time. So if
a head coaching comes available and I can get it,
then I'm going to get it. And I don't care
if that means I'm going to lose or whatever. I'm
taking that gig. Some look at it as I don't
all good get all coaching jobs aren't aren't created equal,
and all of them aren't the best to step into.

(30:16):
So I just think that it's a matter of where
that coach. You know what they're frame of thought, you
know what it is, and what leads them to and
what motivates them to do what it is that they do,
and where they're ultimately trying to get.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know, you reacted off of him basically saying, what
in three or four years, you know, half these guys
be fired.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
You got a reaction off that. Why the reaction, I mean,
because he's right, Yeah, he's right.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
I mean, it's it's just to me, just because he
said it, is that more of it? No, No, I said,
what like a lot of people think. What people Yes,
that's what it is. I think is what people are thinking.
It's what you're you're realizing, I mean, is he wrong?
You know, it's easy. Let me let me tell you this.
I was just I was just on a visit to

(31:04):
u c l A this weekend with with Man and
what up?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Man?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Man?

Speaker 4 (31:09):
And and and I I this is the first time
I ever met Eric b Enemy, first time I ever
met him, and I was kind of apprehensive about even
just kind of talking to him because I just know
the conversations I've had to have about him on air
with the same type of conversation points and what's taking place.

(31:33):
Dude is one of the most impressive dudes you'll be around,
very charismatic, understands the game, breaks it down very very
easily where it's easily consumed. Just just was I was.
I was expecting one thing when when when I saw him,
and it turned out to be something totally different. And

(31:57):
you just never know what the real story he is
on something. You just know what the narrative becomes, and
you don't necessarily know why the narrative becomes the narrative,
but it does. And I just think that in coaching, man,
it's such a it's such a it's a unique situation,

(32:19):
it's a unique profession, especially in the NFL, and if
you don't play your cards right, you could find yourself
in a position where you're never You're never in play
to get that gig. And I think for Ben Johnson
to be looking at what he's doing the way he's
looking at it like, I'm good where I'm at. I'm
gonna keep doing what I'm doing. I'm gonna keep building here.

(32:42):
And as my resume grows and my you know, my
accomplishments grow. If the right situation presents itself for me,
or this situation begins to deteriorate in some way, then
I'll make a decision there. But if you're not in
a situation where you have to make a bold decision
where you know this is a losing situation but you're

(33:03):
taking it anyway. If you're not really in a situation
where you got to make that CALLQ, why would you
do it right?

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Why do it? No?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
It's obviously going to impact your legacy, It's gonna impact
your impression. Most most coaches only get one shot. There's
not many that get too And so you better feel
good about taking on that head coaching job as you
go into it. And I'm trying to think of hold
on let me look this up. The Michigan's men basketball
coach who came from FAU most recently.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
His name is escaped me at the moment, but is
a Dusty May. Is that Dusty May?

Speaker 1 (33:41):
So he was at FAU and he talked about taking
that job, and he took that job really without having
seen the facilities, hadn't seen and anything else that was
down in the book What's on area that particular campus.
And he literally broke down after soon signing and taking
on this deal because he had taken over this program

(34:03):
not really knowing all the facts and not realizing how
much of an uphill battle it was going to be
coming from the program he just came from. I think
he was previously like accurate or something like that, and
they were doing well, and he was an assistant at
the time, and so he essentially took the job because
it was a head coaching job and everything else, But
there there were moments of doubt and and you know,
and it's a different.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
Spot now because he built up the program.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
He had the incredible run to the Final Four for
FAU that ultimately had led to his hiring now at
Michigan as the men's basketball coach. But the point is
is that actually reading that article about him breaking down,
I felt bad for him. I mean, it's his own
fault for not doing his due diligence. But that's the

(34:46):
position some of these head coaches are in, or some
of these head coaching prospects are in. They don't know
when that next big opportunity is going to come, and
I think everyone looks at it with an optimistic perspective, saying, well,
of course I'm gonna go there and win. Like people
who question play calling, do you think the guy called
the play because it wasn't gonna work? Like, clearly they
saw something that they were like, no, it's going to work.

(35:08):
Like we see this in business, where you know, companies
make decisions and they're like, no, this is gonna work.
This is the fad, this is the trend. Of course
this is gonna work. And we're doing our own personal
lives right Like we make decisions all the time about stuff.
We're like, no, this is why I'm doing this. It's
gonna work, and then when when it doesn't, it's like okay,
Like but in this, in this instance, there has to

(35:29):
be helpless you know, walk into a scenario realizing like Oh,
this is not what I thought it is, and now
I'm stuck in a three four year contract. Yes you're
being compensated well, but this might be the only shot
I ever get, And this is it like having to
deal with all this, So you better be picky about
it when it comes to what opportunities you choose to take.
And especially for Ben Jonson, a guy who I think

(35:50):
I think it'll be a great head coach whenever that
moment comes. I just think he's looking for the right moment,
the right ownership, the right structure to everything.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
That he's looking for.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
And clearly that wasn't the case, at least that that
was offered to him last offseason. Speaking on the Detroit Lions, though,
one of the more outspoken head coaches was Dan Campbell
in regards to a shorter preseason, and he talked about
lack of NFL development.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Just take a listen to some of these words.

Speaker 9 (36:14):
Give him opinion potentially on if the league goes to
a nineteen game schedule, cutting the one preseason game. Not really,
I mean the hard thing is, man, that's another game.
But yet, if you reduce a preseason game, you've got
all these young guys you're trying to develop, and you've
got to have.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
Them every year.

Speaker 9 (36:29):
I mean, you look at what we were able to
do with some of our young guys last year and
how much they how important they were to us to winning.
But man, there's a process to it, and so you know,
if you don't get them developed or get them enough
reps to where they help you, then you that's the
only thing.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
That's what you lose, and that's the reality.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Is a former player now head coach, he understands the
importance for a lot of the young players, a lot of.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
Back into the roster guys.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
I'm sure at some point in time in his career
he's a back end of the roster guy and he
looked at his opportunity to showcase I still got it,
because otherwise you don't have those those opportunities quite as much.
That's my fear, at least for some of the league,
unless they, you know, buy out the UFL and they
make that their spring light, their developmental league, is you
lose a lot of these real reps that are gonna
be meaningful for a lot of young players.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
You definitely need meaningful reps because at the pro level
it's less reps. It's it's less time for for guys
that are not the focal point players. So listen, I
don't know how all that that that's all going to
work out or whatever, but I will say getting getting

(37:42):
an opportunity to showcase that, like you said, you still
can do it, or getting the opportunity to showcase that
you actually can do it to begin with, is vitally
important for guys that are fighting for roster spots. And
you know, that could be the difference in a person
making a roster and having a job or not making

(38:05):
a roster and having to look around and try to
figure out what they do to have an income to
be able to survive and live, you know, live their lives.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So it's high stakes. It's high stakes.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
And I think the other thing is I look at
some players who it might be the last football to
ever play. You're taking away more opportunities for them from
that perspective. And I know there's a lot of people
who probably don't care, but to me, like I do
care about how it ends for a lot of guys
who play the game of football, like I love the
game of football, and whether it's you know, they finish
out their college.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
Days, they get a few preseason games and that's it.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
You know, they get cut in camp, they don't make
another roster a team, and they and they move on to.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
That next thing that is in their life. I just
I wish there's more opportunities for that. You know.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
The game has been so impactful in my life, and
I just I hate to see, you know, how it's
going to end for some of these guys where they
don't get any any sort of experience like that to
put on a pro helmet, pro uniform, be out there,
even if it is just a preseason game. I call
me a softy. Whatever you want, that's just how.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
I feel about it. So take it for what it is.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
You know, I got you, man. It's always nice to
be able to get some meaningful, impactful footage. That's what
they always say. Make sure you're putting it on film.
Even in practice, you say practice hard, because that's on film.
You may be able to use your practice film to
get onto a roster.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
Honestly, all right, I'll fully divulge, like what literally just
entered my brain where you see these guys who are
free agents and they're using social media to show, hey,
I still got it. You know, they're showing like their workouts.
They're showing then like old film they have from practice.
And it's those moments where I feel bad because I'm
looking at the player going you had no shot, Like

(39:46):
you're not getting back into the NFL if you're a
part of a training camp or preseason whatever and that's
all you've got. Is if the only thing you got
was just practice film and you working out on some
field with a quick foot ladder or someone throwing some
balls to you, or you're running routes on air, like
that's that's not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Like, you gotta get to the UFL. You gotta go
play overseas.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
There's a lot of there's a European Football league that
just started, the EFL over there, a couple of coaches
that I know. Actually I've taken the opportunity to go
over there and coach so pretty neat actually. But the
point is is you've got to have some other tape
and film out there. And this again only two preseason games.
It takes away a lot of that opportunity for.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Some of those players. But we got to take a
break before that.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Let's get all the latest around the sports war with
our guy, Eddie Garcia, Eddie, what's going on?

Speaker 10 (40:35):
Well, we've got the Stanley Cup Final matchup now set.
After Game six of the Western Conference Finals last night,
the Oilers hold off the Stars for a two to
one win. Edmonton was out shot thirty five to ten,
but they get a couple of power play goals, one
from Connor McDavid, one from Zach Hyman, and their goalie,
Stewart Skinner was great with thirty four saves and net.
Edmonton wins that series four games and two. They're on
to the Stanley Cup Final for the eighth time in

(40:56):
franchise history. They'll face the Florida Panthers starting next coming
Saturday in Florida. Baseball games of note, you had the
Sunday night game with the Cardinals beating the Phillies in
Philadelphia five to four in ten innings. Saint Louis now
has moved into the final wildcard spot in the National League.
Yankees over the Giants in San Francisco seven to five.
New York rallies with four in the ninth to sweep
the series. One Soto hit a couple of home runs

(41:18):
for him. They've now overtaken Philadelphia for the best record
in baseball at forty two and nineteen. Dodgers shut out
the Rockies four noth thing, LA starter Gavin Stone and
three believers combining on a five eighth shutout. Brewers wrap
up a sweep of the White Sox with a six
five win. Milwaukee's won five in a row. Chicago's now
dropped eleven straight. Guardians lose to the Nationals five to two.
Orioles follow the race four to three, and the Mariners

(41:39):
wrap up a sweep of the Angels with a five
to one win. Halos have dropped five in a row.
WNBA Fever lose big to the Liberty one to four
to sixty eight. Indiana's Caitlin Clark had just three points.
She was one ten from the field, one of seven
bind the three point line, and her team is now
two to nine on the season. NFL News, the Washington
Commanders have released kicker Brandon McManus after a lawsuit was
filed against the I'm accusing him of sexual assault while

(42:01):
he was playing with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now by Filavar
Arrington Brady Quinn from the Tyrack dot Com, Fox Sports
Radio Studios.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
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Speaker 2 (42:36):
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Speaker 11 (42:38):
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Speaker 11 (43:04):
Before we got any further, let's get down to a
Sam Pedro g Eddie Garcia with an update.

Speaker 10 (43:13):
All right, I think Petros think he may have called
Lorena a little unaware, but she's she's good.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
It was, that's all.

Speaker 10 (43:23):
We had some NHL playoff action. Game six Western Conference Finals,
the Oilers hold off the Stars two to one. Edmonton
was out shot thirty five to ten with their goalie,
Stewart Skinner had a big game with thirty four saves.
They got powerplay goals from Connor McDavid and Zach Hyman.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
That's a big deal for Canada, right, that is a
big deal.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
They haven't won the Cup since they beat our Kings
back in ninety three.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
So they wait to go.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
This year either, baby. I agree with you, Brady. We'll see.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I didn't think they beat apposer.

Speaker 10 (43:52):
Edmonton wins the series four games and two onto the
Stanley Cup Final, the eighth time in franchise history. They
will place face Brady's Florida Panthers in the final starting
on Saturday and four.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yes, forgot about that from last year.

Speaker 10 (44:05):
Major League Baseball games a note Sunday night, you had
the Cardinals beating the Phillies five to four in ten anying.
Saint Louis has moved into the final wildcard spot in
the National League. Yankees scored four in the ninth beat
the Giants in San Francisco seven to five, won Soto
couple of homers for the Pinstripers. They have overtaken Philadelphia
for the best record in baseball at forty two and nineteen.
Dodgers shut out the Rockies for nothing. LA starter Gavin

(44:26):
Stone and three relievers combining on the five hit shutout.
Brewers beat the White Sox six to three. Milwaukee with
the sweet White Sox have lost eleven in a row.
Guardians losing the Nationals five to two, Orioles followed the
race four to three, and the Mariners wrap up the
sweep of the Angels with a five to one win. WNBA,
you guys are talking about Kaylen clark o.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
You love it?

Speaker 10 (44:43):
She and her fever beaten down by the Liberty One
four to sixty eight. Clark three points, one of ten
from the field, just one of seven buying the three
point line. Her team is now two and nine on
the season, and in the NFL, the Washington Commanders a
release kicker Brandon McManus after a lawsuit was filed against
him accusing him of sexual assault while he was playing
with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Now back to the Warrior and

(45:05):
Brady Quinn Petros Papadegas on the tirect dot Com, Fox
Sports Radio Studios.

Speaker 11 (45:10):
Thank you, and I blame myself for some of the
discombobulation I called. I said Brady had a big head
when the show started, and I think.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Horsehead, and well it's I'm a horse Monday.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
So but we've also identified that you have a bigger
head in reality.

Speaker 11 (45:26):
Well, I mean just off the hat size. But I
think if we got officially measured.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Ian's sad any different.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Well it's like saying you have a smaller waist somehow,
but you're well, you're bigger pants.

Speaker 11 (45:36):
Well some do you ever remember cross colors? LeVar, come
on now, absolutely should get a size eighty on a
little Asian taggeran. But uh, maybe my your head is
just a little smaller up top, Brady, and it comes
down like a mandible, like like a pyramid.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
You think about that.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
I did. I did not think.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
I mean, look, I said, I'm sorry.

Speaker 11 (45:56):
I shouldn't have said that, And I think it started
things off in a contentious way.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
We had we needed you on more than just an hour.
We just we can't get to everything we need to
talk about.

Speaker 11 (46:05):
I'll do it hour, but my boss was like, I
will not have I got to do four hours today
at the Chargers Golf tournament in Rolling Hill Sounds.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Yeah, I gotta.

Speaker 11 (46:15):
I gotta face the thousand yards stare from five yards
from Jim Harbaugh. Dang, I'm not looking forward to it.
And then I'll be back on interview with you guys
in the morning. I go deep with Harbaugh, though I
go back to like usd so so every once in
a while he remembers that not maybe about thirty percent
of the time, So we'll see.

Speaker 3 (46:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Anyway, I want to talk about Drew Brees. Is that okay?

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Sure?

Speaker 11 (46:41):
Now do we I mean, do we want to do that?
I mean it felt like you guys weren't into my
WNBA topic, like you were exhausted what like. I was like,
like you were, guys.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Hey, don't really sensitive. Just now, like, stand on in there.
You just put us in Disneyland, you know, restroom.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Yeah, man, stand on in there.

Speaker 11 (47:02):
I'm just saying I'll stand in I'm saying I brought
up I brought up the w NBA, and it was
like I was the guy that brought up, like, hey,
have you heard of these white claws. You know, you
guys are like, oh, we talked about that at three
in the morning. You know it felt like.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
That nod it that way. It's okay, come on, let's
go breeze.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
Drew Brees.

Speaker 11 (47:23):
He wants to call games again, and he wants to
do it apparently on his terms. He wants to call
the games he wants to call, and he wants to
make the astronomical amount of money that the premiere broadcast
NFL type guys are making. Of course that market will
pop after the Tony Romo and Tom Brady contracts, but

(47:44):
that's where the kind of climate is. And I feel
bad for Drew Brees cause some people just start that
great on TV. Right, Jason Witten was like that. Everybody
thought he was going to be great. He wasn't that great. Okay,
you know it didn't work out. Why does he want
to go back? And who's going to hire him?

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Dang, it did feel odd that he I mean, he
talked about three specific jobs he.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Got that mole removed for nothing.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Jeez, Thursday night football, Sunday night football, Monday football. And
it's like, well, Sunday night, you had your opportunity with
NBC Sports, And from as I said my opinion, others
that I'm close to that used to watch Notre Dame
games that he called it weren't really overly impressed. And
I think that probably was the same impression that folks

(48:33):
at NBC Sports got, which is why he never overtook
Chris Collinsworth. But it is a bit odd that he's
like now reservicing after taking what a couple of years
off from this.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
Now has it been two years since he left the booth?

Speaker 11 (48:45):
Yeah, But I mean, is it that important to call
games for these guys if you're one of the all
time great quarterbacks? Is it just that you see these
other guys doing it? There's so much money to be made.
I mean, that's why Brady's doing it, right. He saw
that he could make the same amount of money almost
thirty because of what Tony Romo did.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:03):
I was looking back through his career earnings, by the way,
like he would literally make with the exception of like
one or two years, more money in broadcasting in any
given year than he did in his career after as
long as he played.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Which is ridiculous when you think about it.

Speaker 11 (49:16):
And I've called games for I don't know, twenty three years,
and I mean it's a job. There's no doubt that
it's a job, and it is work. But when you
start making like five million dollars a game, I don't
think it's a job anymore, do you know what I mean? Like,
it doesn't. It's it's crazy that we're paying guys that.
But of course the market is the market, and they're

(49:38):
going to get paid that. But I guess when you're
doling out that kind of money, anybody with a huge
name in football is going to want to try to
get involved.

Speaker 4 (49:45):
But that's less than two hand fools of people too,
like or maybe too maybe two hand fools of you know,
two sets of hands. It's just not very many people
in the industry that have that type of opportunity unity
to make that type.

Speaker 3 (50:01):
Of scratch at time of cloud.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Yeah, and and listen for like q Q kind of
highlighted it, he didn't kind of you highlighted it earlier.
You think about the personalities and the brands that are
sitting in the seats that Drew Brees was calling out
that he would like to be able to call those games,
which one of those guys would you say, yep, let's
replace that guy with Drew Brees. So it ultimately makes

(50:26):
me start to wonder, like and Drew Brees putting out
out there, what are you?

Speaker 3 (50:31):
What are you? What are you seeking?

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Or what are you looking for?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Is this?

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Is this a continued competition with Tom Brady? Like you
seeing what Tom gets? It's getting closer to the time
I thought I was a better quarterback than Tom and
in college, you know, he got more Super Bowls than me.
But I would I would maybe debate or argue if
I was a better quarterback in the league than Tom Brady.

Speaker 11 (50:55):
They're still competing. That's a they're still competing, you know what.
I think it is LeVar and you guys would understand
there's better than me. I think it's their agents competing. Hmmm, right,
like Tom Brady's agents, Like, damn, I can still make
twenty million dollars off this guy, you know, when he's
not even playing, not even playing, you know, so their
agents are working too.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
I just I find it to be a tapic complex
to put yourself out there because his body of work
is it's amazing. It is an amazing body of work.
But at the same time, like what are you expecting
to get done if they aren't coming? Am I wrong
for saying this? If they're not coming for you for
those positions, you ain't You ain't getting it right exactly.

(51:40):
You can put it out there all you want. If
they ain't coming for you, you ain't getting it. It
reminds me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
And I love Kurt Warner, but Kurt Warner has been
like kind of throwing himself out there, his name out
there forever about these jobs, and it just hasn't really
come about.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 11 (51:58):
Why is that no one else can play cornerback out
of Kurt Warner's mouth other than Kurt Warner. Well, there's
those elements to his broadcasts. Here's what I would have done,
all right, Kurt.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
There's there's no elements to his podcasting chops. But there's
also like the to exactly what LeVar said, if they
want you, they're gonna they're gonna come after you. And and
and we're getting to a point where like it doesn't
matter necessarily the merit to your to how good of
a job you do.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
It's more about the new than now.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
And that's and that's the reality of what we've seen
like he had his opportunity. I don't know how seriously
he took the Notre Dame games and how that went
maybe studio, who knows, but it kind of came and went,
and it's like now it's kind of an afterthought, where
now you've got guys who are transitioning out that you're
in competition with, and and there's guys who they don't
need to have any reps for to annoint to a

(52:50):
number one position, like Tony Romo, which I think in
retrospect now, I'm not sure what you think of ROBO's
call first team two geeked Well, probably looks like a
bad move if you're looking at a retrospect now. Yeah,
I mean I think it's really interesting and I think
it's an interesting conversation. Maybe it's just interesting to broadcast
types like us, but I think about just the circumstance

(53:13):
of football, right and how remember that game on.

Speaker 11 (53:17):
The price is right plinko? Oh yeah, and that to me,
you know, that's football right now. Of course, you have
to be something very special just to get your foot
in the door, just to get through the doorway. And
there are transcendent athletes, and I think both of you
guys at the college level, for sure, I can relate
with that, But for a lot of US football types,

(53:39):
I mean I saw it with Carson Palmer.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
I played with him. He led the pack ten and picks.

Speaker 11 (53:45):
He struggled, and circumstance kept folding over on him. There
was a coach, new coach hired and Pete Carroll. He
brought Norm Chow in. They were six and six his
junior year, and it looked like Carson Palmer was going
to be a middling quarterback with a lot of physical skill.
And then the next year he won the Heisman and

(54:05):
became the first pick in the NFL draft. And to me,
that was there's so much circumstance involved in that, and
everybody has their story like that. It's getting that way
with broadcasting for these handful or like LeVar said, maybe
it's Vishnu with two handfuls on either hand of guys
that that are you know, circumstance where you get hired.

(54:26):
Are you working for NBC a bunch of stuff shirts.
Are you working at Fox where they let you kind
of shake your personality around. Do you find a situation
like Romo where the offensive coordinator tells you what he's
gonna run in the first five games. He calls, you
know all of these weird things that happen, and circumstance
kind of dictated it.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Well said, well, thanks, work.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Of your head. Do you ever think of your head,
Brady like a pyramid or not?

Speaker 5 (54:52):
No?

Speaker 1 (54:52):
I what I do is I take pictures of you
and I and put him side by side, and I'm like,
how delusional must Petros be?

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Let's do a measure measure put him on the body,
measure him.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
I will gladly do a measurement because we've got to
have an official that they're going to wrap that measure
around your head.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
We got to get an official guy I want to get.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Can we to get his book of World Wreckers to
come out, because there's a chance you might have the
biggest head of any.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
One of the case.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
Can we measure for body fat too as well? Body
fat person?

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Well, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna win that one.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
I don't know, Patrick, you've been doing a lot of yoga, ladies.

Speaker 11 (55:25):
I knew right after this try for your head, trying
to win out the shame of this hour. And uh,
if you get a head measurer when you come to la,
we have to hire an official head or.

Speaker 1 (55:37):
Maybe sure this there's one who actually has that job
title out there.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
Maybe Vicky can do it at Fox and we can
have our heads officially measured. That way, there's no more debate.
Remember that time that Oprah tried to wipe off Drew
Brees's mole.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Oh no, oh no, I don't remember that. You don't
It sounds.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Crazy insurance anybody know?

Speaker 3 (55:56):
I do remember this.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I you gonna remember.

Speaker 3 (55:58):
Let me.

Speaker 2 (55:59):
Let me get this for you.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
The couple of the ashes like, oh no, it's a
giant drinking mole on that is their tang.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
I blame the mole.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I will.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
I will literally send this clip to you because I
was able to find it relatively fast.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Yeah, is it fatthead of me? Or oh no, no,
it's no, no that You're all right? Call a measurer
on Oprah.

Speaker 11 (56:19):
We'll wrap it up next with some stupid game on
Fox Sports wading