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Finals are over, that'll do it. We will go ahead
and conclude these finals in about four or five games,
and then we move on to the NFL. I don't
know if it's just me or if you guys notice
the same thing, but it just seems like a mismatch
(01:43):
like Boston's that much better than Dallas, and they played
not good last night at all. They didn't shoot the ball. Well,
it's not like Tatum was lighting it up. He struggled
so far the series. And still they end up winning
that game. They end up covering the spread if you had,
you know, Boston minus six and a half. If not,
(02:03):
sucks for you. It just feels like this series isn't
all that close, to be honest, with you, Yeah, might want.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Let's just say that they look like the best team
in the NBA. So it kind of just is what
it is now they have Porzingis back. I know we
talked about that before game one and after Game one,
but they just they look like the best team and maybe,
you know, maybe they're not, depending on how things would
have went if you had a different team from the West.
But this is this is who made it. But I
(02:33):
think Luca has still kind of done his party. He's
banged up trying to play through it. It's just it's
shutting down Kyrie. And we talked about it before the
series started. For Dallas to have any shot whatsoever, both
Luca and Kyrie were gonna have to play lights out
every game and carry the team because they can't afford
for them both not to. And unfortunately, it feels like
(02:56):
Luca's done his part. Kyrie facing one of his own
or excuse me, those old teammate teams, it's not be
able to do that. So that's that's kind of where
the series is atted. There's not much thoughts to like
this thing really going past four games, at least, not
how the first two games have looked and it's hard.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
This was a moment where you say, they got to
give their their best effort to show that this can
possibly be a competitive series.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And they did.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
They came out and they were up and and there
was even a moment in time where they were in
striking distance but was careless with the ball and it
all but you know, stealed the deal for the game.
It just it's one of those demoralizing games because you know,
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Dallas is thinking, we got to try to steal one.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
We got to steal one.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Now after you lose two on the road, you you
you're going home, so your mind you're saying, well, we
gotta we gotta defend home if we can. If we
can defend home, get too straight and see what we
can do from there, we head back. We could possibly
(04:14):
get I do believe the way it gets two two
one one, and then if it goes to a game seven,
goes back to Boston.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I do believe that's the way. Right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
So their whole idea is, Okay, we didn't steal one
so far on the road, but if we can defend
at home and get this thing pulled even, then just maybe,
just maybe we can go on the road and steal one.
Now there, That is to me what Dallas is probably
(04:48):
most likely thinking. But listen, Perzingas didn't have a good
game yesterday statistically across the board. Jason Tatum hasn't been
good offensively in terms of scoring, but he's been a
brilliant facilitator during the course of the series.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Has been more of a facilitator than.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
A score Jalen Brown wasn't crazy on facilitating, but did
pretty good scoring right. And Drew Holidays stole the show.
He stole the show as the player in last evening's game.
And that's the problem you run into against the Celtics.
You know, Horford didn't play very many minutes. Perzingis didn't
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play very many minutes. I think it was like twenty
some minutes. They didn't play a lot. But Drew Holliday
was the one that it was like, this is his moment,
tonight is his game. Tatum was only what one point
shower or one assist shy one something, shy of having
a triple double.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
He almost had a triple double in the game.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But it looked as though Dallas thought, Okay, let's play
some three to two rotating perimeter defense and let's see
if we can slow them down offensively, which in some
ways they did. They did, and that's what has to
be so demoralizing and so I guess disheartening and frustrating
(06:15):
if you're Dallas, if you're a Dallas fan, is they
had what seemingly was the defensive scheme to be able
to keep the game competitive, stay in position to either
keep the lead a narrow lead, or to be able
to come back if they did get down and win
the game. It looked like they were executing it well
(06:38):
enough to possibly do it. But you know, too many mistakes,
too many timely, costly mistakes in the game, and you
can't you can't win the big, big game.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
If that's what happens during the course of the.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Game, Dallas is likely they only lost by seven, Like
they're like, they're fortunate. If Boston could just hit a
few threes. I think they shot like twenty five percent
from three or something like that. They just hit a
few more threes, we're looking at a typical fifteen to
twenty point loss. These teams have played four times this year.
They played twice in the regular season. None of those
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games were close like this. You're seeing it play out
and watching it just going where's the outside of And
we mentioned, you know, Lucas played well, he's banged up.
Kyrie is not. But like we talked about it before
the series, like Derek White and Drew Holliday are going
to be difference makers. Like people want to argue whether
or not that was a foul on PJ. Washington or
(07:35):
whatnot like that. That's fine, get into the weeds on
that if we want. But they don't have Dallas doesn't
have those guys. Boston does. And to me, that's the
difference in the series as far.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
As it goes.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I mean, they're one player.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
They're one player shy of being a team that can
compete with Boston. But with that being said, there were
one player, they got that many.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, honestly, it's not like the roster surrounding Luca
and Kyrie is bad. I kind of thought Derek Lively
would have more of an impact given when he came
back in, but that hasn't been the case unfortunately. I
just Boston's deeper, They've got a better they've got a
better game plan to take away Kyrie. They obviously know
kind of his you know, from his background being there.
(08:19):
They kind of know some of his strengths and weaknesses,
and it's just not a matchup that I think is
one that Dallas is gonna be able to win many times.
I mean, they might steal one in the series, but
this thing seems destined for a four game sweep, it
really does. I mean, maybe, like I said, maybe I'll
be wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
No, they don't think there's a chance they could trash
still one at home. But I mean, all things given,
if you're looking at the way that game played out
last night, that one has every indicator that this is
hitting for Sweet.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Drew Holliday, who LeVar you mentioned, was the star of
the game last night. He spoke afterwards about his contributions
and his role.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
With the team, and if you're going to be the
team's leading score, leading rebound, or shoot the highest percentage
and gave to the finals, why aren't you.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
A superstar as well? MEU tility guy. I'll do whatever.
I'm here to win. I feel like they brought me
here to win, and I'll do my best to do that.
At the end of the day, this is their team,
and I know it's probably just as much as my
team as theirs, But I feel like I've talked about
this before. The pressure that they have on themselves to
execute and to be great is a little bit different
than than my pressure. And again I've always been honest
(09:27):
about that, and how they always handle themselves has been
something that's been so honorable. So it's just it's slightly different.
They're superstars and I'm here to support man.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
When remember when people were upset that man, you know
they got rid of Marcus Smart. What the hell they
going to do?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
One of them?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's like I was.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
One of them.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Then all of a sudden, Malcolm brog didn knew the
writing was on the wall that they were trying to
get rid of him and trying to trade him. And
then Portland's sitting there with you know, they've got Drew
Holiday after the deal with Damian Lillard and the Celtics like, yeah,
we'll take that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
That's fine. Dread was the same player for the Bucks.
It was the same player. Yes, that's fair. No same
player for the Bucks here a humble guy.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Man. Can I ask this though, is Jason Tatum fuel pressure?
I mean, he's he hasn't played well in the playoffs.
I would say, with a couple of exceptions, I don't
know that he's like he should see it that way,
only because you have such a strong supporting cast, especially
with Porzingi's back, Like if anything, like he doesn't have
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to do it all. Like he's not in the position
of Luca, He's not in the position of Kyrie. He
might be viewed as a superstar like them in the NBA.
He does not have to carry this team. Though it's
been proven time and time again throughout these playoffs, they
can still win games and he can have a poor
shooting night. That's just the reality of how this team's constructed.
(10:55):
And so whether it's Jalen Brown or Derek White, or
Porzingis or even al al Horfeit or Derek you know,
it just it doesn't matter like he can Literally we
could talk about there being pressure on Jason Tatum. Okay,
if he has an off night, they're still gonna win
a game. Yeah, that's the repucy of them how this
team's built.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
But it's pressure on on Tatum and Brown for them
to win it all. While what you're saying is is
correct and it's accurate. I think the pressure that Drew
Drew Holliday is talking about as it applies to both
of them is getting over that hump. So regardless of
them having if they do have an off game, whatever happens,
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if they don't have success, they're they're going to be
the ones to blame if they if they're not having
the type of series where they're up to well right now,
those two are going to be the ones to blame.
And then as it as it applies to just personal,
the personal side of it, like they're the megastars, they're
the superstars of this team.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
What are they doing to contribute?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
What what is their role in and in this team
being able to win? I think that those things play
on those two in particular for the simple fact that
it's probably a legacy play involved in it. But there's
also the idea that I heard somebody say this the
other day. They're like to and I don't know if
it's believable or not. I mean, you take it however
(12:19):
you want to take it. But somebody was comparing them
to like they're the they're the new age version of
Scotty and and and Mike WHATMJ like, That's basically what
they're saying, is.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Is heard that from you need to stop, I'll send y'all.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'll send y'all the video.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
To be Scotty. Why is that to be Scotty and
m J Sickness Craft.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
They're both black, So I think the point was black.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He was taking aim.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
He was taking aim at at Kyrie Irving, leaving those
guys before they got to the point of where they're
actually maturing enough to play at the level that they're
playing now.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
And and to me.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I think that that is a lot of pressure on
them because they have been so close for so long
and have continued to come up short, and now this
could be the the you know, this could be the
breaking of the damn. I mean this, if they can
hold this team together, there's no telling how many times
that they can.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Who's going to beat them? Who's going to beat them?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Like, because you said something earlier in the segment Q
that I thought was I was thinking about it as well,
like who would have been the better matchup? I feel
like Denver would have been the better matchup for them,
but I don't know that Denver would have.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Been able to hold Denver beat Boston twice in the
regular season. I think I think Minnesota would have been
a tougher matchup than Dallas.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Probably anyone put Dallas. Yeah, it's like, how Dallas get here? Right?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think I think the vancou the Vancouver Grizzlies might
have gotten the game right now. Oh yeah, it just
it's over again.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It goes back to if you go the Western Conference Finals,
Luca and Kyrie played out of this world, and that
just hasn't been the first two games this series. Maybe
they'll figure it out. I don't know, though I'm not
holding my breath.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Looks like it, yeah, I don't look like it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean, do you think it has an do the
Was it Michael Finley because he's black?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Dag Michael Finley.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
There was a reporter that asked Joe Missoula about about this, you.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Know that about being black?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, about him and Jason Kidd. Oh wow, two coaches?
Who did you see Missoula's response say he asked him,
he goes, huh he guyes. I wonder how many of
those coach has been Christians? Room gotten dead silent, and
then that was it, Like eventually they I think they
moved on another question.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
But I do appreciate a man sharing his faith like that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It was meant to be a divisive question, and it
got thrown right back into like something about spirituality and faith.
I was like, all right, I like this. I love
this dude.
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about the Detroit Lions. All of a sudden, they win
a playoff game. They think they can like, you know,
skirt around the rules. They think they can just you know,
like bang each other up in practice during OTAs the
week of May twenty seventh, and next thing you know,
(17:37):
they could just get away with it. Not so fast,
says the NFL. They lost their final OTA practice. They
had to forfeit it because there was too much contact
at practice during that week of May twenty seventh. So
my question is, who's the rat right who reported this
to the PA or the league to get them in
(17:58):
true questions, who's the snake?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Could this also be what divides their locker room and
ruins this season for the Lions?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Can between that out?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah? Could this be it?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Mute anarchy?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
This is really common, by the way, as far as
teams get popped for being too physical oas we're also
with the Seahocy twenty thirteen, they basically planned on it.
I mean, that's how I'm not gonna say the off
season is meaningless because it's not for younger players, it's
not for new players, guys coming back from injury. But
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there's a thought because it's not in pads, that they
really can't get the work done they'd like to get done.
And you know, old school guys. I think Dan Campbell
falls into that category. I think he's an old school
guy with maybe in some ways a new school approach.
But you know, do you remember the clip we saw
of him talking to the team about hitting and talking
(18:58):
to you It was during training camp, I believe, before
last season, and he was just asking the guys to
trust them and trust him, and he was basically pleading
with them because like he doesn't want to put people
at risk, but in order to practice what you're going
to do in your actual job. In a game, you
got to hit, you gotta bang. There's a lot of
coaches who feel like that, and so if they end
(19:19):
up being too physical, so be it well to take
away one of our tas. Like I remember, I think
half the half the time, a lot of the teams
do something silly anyways, they have a movie or they'll
you're going to play like a softball game or something.
It's like, we look at his team building. But the
truth of the matter is OTAs don't allow you to
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truly practice what the sport is. It's why you know
you can get a lot of work done in seven
on seven and people say always seven on seven leagues, Man,
they're awesome. No they're not. It's seven on seven. It's
not football like that. For a quarterback, that's not even football.
Getting up to the line of scrimmage every single play,
having the opportunity to get your head knocked off, but
(20:03):
still having to throw the football. That is football. That
that is what that is about. And so it's to me,
I every time I see a team, this is my
good That team's gonna have a good year because they're
setting the tone early on what their team's gonna be
what their identity is gonna be, and he said it
from his opening press conference. They're gonna bite off your kneecaps.
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They're gonna be a physical football team. This probably probably
should happen more than it does, but I'm glad to
hear For the Lions. I think they've got a tone
there set not allowing themselves to look at last year's
success and read too.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Much into that. So I love this news coming out
of Detroit.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It just continues as you mentioned, it just continues the
theme that Dan Campbell is pushing for that they ain't
laughing around, and not only is it is it something
that you definitely I remember being under Gray Williams. And
there's a lot of things I could say that I
didn't like about Greg Williams, but one of the few
(21:05):
things that I can say I did like about him
is he had a we don't f around mentality, and
we want that to be the reputation and we want
that to be what resonates from from our camp. So
this is like what they're doing is they're they're taking
the punishment, but they're putting everybody in the NFL. They're
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putting them on notice. All the other teams. They're putting
them on notice. All the NFC North teams, you're on notice.
We're about to come kick yourll ass. All the other
NFC teams, We're going to come out of the NFC
this year. We're going to kick your ass. We're not
joking around, We're not playing around. This was not a fluke.
The Detroit the Detroit Lions is a team that you're
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going to have to deal with, and you're going to
have to deal with the fact that we're doing it
our way. And it's in a way that in a
lot of ways you mentioned seven on seven, the old guard,
the old style of how people played when Dan Campbell
was a player is vastly different. It's evolved from from
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then to now as to how things are are done,
how they're seeing, how they're interpreted. And and I'll say this,
the one thing that I love the most about about
Harball in Michigan this past this past college year is
that you take a guy that brought old school rules
and old school principles and a new school style of
(22:32):
how things are done, and he basically proved that the
old way of doing things in some ways, in some
regards may be, may be obsolete, but there's one thing
that will never ever ever unless it's it's it's governed
out of the game is the physicality of the sport.
(22:54):
You saw a Michigan team basically bully their way to
a national championship. You've watched the Detroit Lions continue to
grow in the way in the style of bully ball,
bully football.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I love it, and old is back.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Old is back.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I don't know that it's back, but I do know this.
I do know the people that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, no, way, too hard into that.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, he's not old enough to even say that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well, listen, it's like when you see all these teams
going to their retro jerseys. Now, all right, bringing back
the throwbacks.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But that's just for a look. Is that just more
so for a look.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That's because if you really were bringing them back to
be old school, then you would just.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Bring them back.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Brady told me one time. He said, it's not Brady
told me, it's a way of life, his words, exactly,
So dollars, it's ten dollars ten.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
That was passive aggressive, passive aggressive.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
If it was first.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Off, well, this is some kangaroo cordiator. We don't have
a fine system. No one ever paid up. I donated
one month, Jonas, I never saw I never saw the receipt.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's all said, right, because it didn't exist.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I never say anything that gets me fine.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So that is one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You should be fined more than anybody has.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Jonas though went off Washington.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I saw the old school.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Tangent for a long long time.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That was like you could tell Jonas is born in
the wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Era, oldest back. I'm a throwback, you know, the sifties,
an old soul, you.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Know in a lot of ways, because that that leather
jacket that you wear is definitely old. Screen on tribolta
like like t birds Like all you got was spray
paint tea birds on the bag going brown, like I.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Want to one of the outsiders, you know with with
pony Boy, Curtis Botts. Let me ask you this, what
is considered too much contact in practice? Are they are
they lightening people up? A great quest, It's a great question.
Is it bulling the ring? Is it Oklahoma drills? What
are we looking at when it comes to too much
contact in practice?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
It's about interpretation.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I would assume, yeah, I mean, I would assume.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
How vague that that was. It's by interpretation.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Just say, if like someone's out there, they're just like,
oh that looks too physical.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yes, how do you measure it? How do you think?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I mean, there really isn't supposed to be any contacts,
So I would assume there's still elements of one on
ones that go on with linemen. There's still elements of
one on ones that go on with DB's wide receivers
and linebackers, running backs, and even in seven on seventeen periods,
there'll be you know, spots where guys are kind of
almost hitting one another little bit. I remember even in
(25:48):
a walk through we had back in twenty thirteen, it
was like full speed. It was it sorted out as
a walk through, but there was like a two minute drill,
which maybe this was the genius of Pete Carroll, is
he knew it, like couldn't like, how can you do
a hurry up offense in two minute?
Speaker 7 (26:04):
How could you do that in slow motion?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Like it's impossible to do it a walk through fashion
against the defense. So obviously one side started to speed up,
and then the other side speeds up, then their side
speeds up. The other side speeds up because it gets competitive,
so like guys are full blown like and jammed with
a lot of scrimmage. They're like like using hands and
just the whole thing. There's all of a sudden a
pass rush. You're like, what is happening?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's period where it's going to get that that you're
going to get that notification.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Honestly though sometimes it's not even the NFL and players
have said this for a long time. Who are a
player rep is? They feel like they're in a position
where they can't win because everyone knows who the player
reps are and if you end up losing a practice,
they look they're like squarely turn over and look at
that player. They're like, oh you're riding aside.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Huh okay.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I always say that play time incentive lois this year,
you know, like well or maybe they cut them all together?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I mean didn't Kevin?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But why have a Pro Bowl season and he couldn't
get a contract the following year? As it being the
NFLPA president was something like that, Yeah, who did was
here the Titans?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Because maybe he was with the Jets and then is
that when he went to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I just remember him being the NFLPA president and there's
it was like the year after I was like, uh, yep,
no one's gonna sign him.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Like really he was awesome. Granted he was.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
He was really high up in age, like he was,
you know, on his way to being you know, I think,
what forty years old. But he was an All Pro
the year before, he was a Pro Bowl. Next year,
it was like he's still able to play another year
or two and nothing. And he was a tennis he
was at Tennessee the end of his career.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Were you guys a player rep.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Doesn't It's the samest way to be plausible diability man
the other guys, I'm still one of you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I'm not. I'm not all the way through.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I don't even know why I was saying, I'm not
a union guy, Like sorry for people out there reporting
unions and all that. Although I will tell you I
had to volunteer at the golf tournament this past weekend,
and I did try to get the boys to I
got to tell you at the Boys of Union as
a little bit for that.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
So I never got into it.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Did you guys see the story Matt Light put out
about being a part of the NFL p A and
the trip to Hawaii. Bill Belichick.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Yeah, that Alzheimer so good.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But you can't even do it justice by repeating the
story on the air. You have to read the email
because it's so much sarcasm from Bellick.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
We used to let lights on the story. Do we
have a sound on that?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I don't believe we do.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's long, that's the only thing.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
But it's it's pretty pretty tremendous what.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I've been a move man. I'm needly cute. He's not
biting on it.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's just it's fine, though, trying to do a professional
broadcast here. And then he said, was.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I started talking bad about reps?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That he said? He nothing. I would want to repeat
what I just But there was another one that was
he said he said it was really long. Yeah that
I had a response for it, but it was quick
and it was under my breath so we didn't have
to dump it.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
It was good.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
I think now that we're drawing attention to it, it makes
it that much better.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
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Speaker 7 (30:58):
Good thing, the guys are here to bring you in
case you missed it, but.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
That we turn it over to our executive producer, Lee.
Speaker 5 (31:09):
Lap.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
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Speaker 10 (31:11):
Good morning everybody, Good morning, good Monday morning, Good morning Jonas,
Good morning Brady, Good morning LeVar. Guys, in casey miss this, Lap,
in fact, we all miss this. A fight that should
be happening on Hey Brady, A fight that should be
happening in July twentieth between the beloved Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And Jake Paul.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
Oh, it's gonna happen. And you know when it's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen November fifteenth, still at at and T Stadium.
That's what it's been moved to. Cool, casey miss is
not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I don't lost a lot of them metal, Oh it's
going to happen. I did see a post of Jake
Paul frustrating the rain, you know, did you? Yeah, there's
like some post out there. I was like, oh cool.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, I at least he gets to say, Mike duckting.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well did he? So what what happened on?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Is that? Besides you?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
But all right, I mean I'm just saying, I'm just
putting it out there, you know, create a little little drama.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So what happened on the flight? What did what was
his medical issue?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
An ulcer or something? Ulcer flara? Yes, I wonder what
that feels like.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Var I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Todd might know.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Does Todd get ulcers?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think? So brilliant?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
All right, I don't know. Yeah, So what does it?
What does it feel like when when you deal with
one of those? I mean, because I look, I am
having little interest in this fight initially, and it's even
less now and more interest and now I have less.
(32:53):
I just want I'm not I'm not into it, man,
I really don't. It feels like it's gonna be a
spectacle and it's in November. It's during football season. It
was a great summertime event. It was like Mayweather McGregor,
that was a great summertime event. Once football's here.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I those we're still both like Floyd still like relatively
competitive at that point of when he fought McGregor, you know,
and McGregor was still relatively competitive when they fought.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
This is not that.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So it was just the intrigue of iron Mike Tyson,
like at one point time the most dangerous, most feared
man on the face of the planet. Like, but that's
not him today. But you're intrigued to see if there's
still some of that after you saw him fight, you know,
spar with Roy Jones, you know, Roy Jones Junior. So
(33:50):
I just don't think it's going to happen. I don't
I don't think it's good. I don't think it happened.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The one thing they did that was smart. It's on
a Friday night, all right, so at least it's on
a Friday, so they're not trying to wedge it in
between a bunch of college football on a Saturday, so
that might help it out a little bit. But yeah,
I'm I'm not positive this is gonna happen. What else
we got lead out?
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Well, guys, in case you missed this, Caitlyn Clark has
been quote unquote snubbed from the UH from the team
USA for the Paris Olympics.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
She had some comments about it.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
Take a listen, honestly, no disappointment, Like I think it
just gives you something, something to work for. You know,
that's a dream. You know hopefully what can be there.
And I think it's just a little more motivation. You
remember that, and you know hopefully in four years, when
four years comes back around, you know I can be there.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I was thinking about this.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
How many things?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
How many things do I care less about than the
w n B A And there's just not a lot,
you know. I was really thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's so high up there to not care about it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'm like, you know, I just really do it. Just
it feels like there's so much fake out.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
That's you.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
There's people who care that. People want to be divisive
about this. Here's my only thing is you know, look
is she how many how many girls go twelve fifteen,
twelve thirteen, twelve thirteen, whatever it is?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Fourteen?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I mean, look, maybe she's not one of the twelve best, like, like,
are we only sending her over there because we want
to get people to watch or are you trying to win?
Like her career in college was unbelievable? Can you right
now say she is one of the best twelve players
a WNBA, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
I'm not gonna act like I know anything about the WNBA.
I watched Kaitler Clark from time and time. That's about it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
So I don't get the outrage like people she's gotta
be a part of why for TV ratings?
Speaker 7 (35:39):
If she's not the best, then don't put her.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Apart of it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's the new trendy debate topic, that's all.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, it's like, okay, look she and she said everything
the right way.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
It's motivation.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It's just that, okay, great, Like she's you know, maybe
she's upset about it, just pointed behind the scenes, or
thinks she should be a part of it.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Who cares like that that was the decision that they made.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Let's move on, like, let her get some rest, let
her be a you know, take a break from.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
All this for a little bit. I don't get the outrage.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I just for a lot of people, by the way,
who didn't give a crap a year ago about the
w n b A. Now they're outraged about it because
Kale's not like part of it. It's like just relaxed people.
All right.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
They didn't take Quille O'Neil, so you know, it's not
the first time and it's not just women.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
You said when he was in the in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well, he was coming out of college. They took I
believe they took Christian Lake.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Later, yeah, which Layner was, you know again, but he
was fewed as one of the better college players. That's
not that that's not the standard, like the greatest ever,
but the apples and.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Oranges comparison though.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's the difference is they're not taking on college players,
you know, they're not like that's not part of the
structure of this team. So that that whole I saw
that point. It doesn't make any sense for this So
it's crucial late like that's like people wanting to make
it well Cleyland Colork should be a part of this.
It's like, well no, if they don't feel like she's
one of the best, and Syvie.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
They communicated to her. She communicated to them like.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Fifty two days boys until the first spring, the first
preseason game in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I don't even have any feelings towards I did a
post on it yesterday and it went nuts, so crazy,
how how into this people are.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
But Americans are so.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Especially us as sports fans, we are such well, it's
not even sports fans, I say, in general, it's just
like mock outrage.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
There's so many things that we.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Love to have fake ass outrage about, and Caitlin Clark
is turning into one of those people that people have
fake outrage, like you're not really outraged, like relaxed.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
If the WNBA was playing their All Star game in
my backyard, I'd go do laundry at somebody else's house.
Couldn't care less what else.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
We got there.
Speaker 10 (37:57):
By the way, she's twenty two, will be twenty six
next time, which is the youngest age of the youngest
player going to Paris.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Madden comes out tomorrow, but not enough.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Time for the SoundBite here.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
We will figure that out tomorrow, all right,
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Finals are over, that'll do it. We will go ahead
and conclude these finals in about four or five games,
and then we move on to the NFL. I don't
know if it's just me or if you guys notice
the same thing, but it just seems like a mismatch
(01:43):
like Boston's that much better than Dallas, and they played
not good last night at all. They didn't shoot the ball. Well,
it's not like Tatum was lighting it up. He struggled
so far the series. And still they end up winning
that game. They end up covering the spread if you had,
you know, Boston minus six and a half. If not,
(02:03):
sucks for you. It just feels like this series isn't
all that close, to be honest, with you, Yeah, might want.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Let's just say that they look like the best team
in the NBA. So it kind of just is what
it is now they have Porzingis back. I know we
talked about that before game one and after Game one,
but they just they look like the best team and maybe,
you know, maybe they're not, depending on how things would
have went if you had a different team from the West.
But this is this is who made it. But I
(02:33):
think Luca has still kind of done his party. He's
banged up trying to play through it. It's just it's
shutting down Kyrie. And we talked about it before the
series started. For Dallas to have any shot whatsoever, both
Luca and Kyrie were gonna have to play lights out
every game and carry the team because they can't afford
for them both not to. And unfortunately, it feels like
(02:56):
Luca's done his part. Kyrie facing one of his own
or excuse me, those old teammate teams, it's not be
able to do that. So that's that's kind of where
the series is atted. There's not much thoughts to like
this thing really going past four games, at least, not
how the first two games have looked and it's hard.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
This was a moment where you say, they got to
give their their best effort to show that this can
possibly be a competitive series.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
And they did.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
They came out and they were up and and there
was even a moment in time where they were in
striking distance but was careless with the ball and it
all but you know, stealed the deal for the game.
It just it's one of those demoralizing games because you know,
(03:48):
Dallas is thinking, we got to try to steal one.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
We got to steal one.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Now after you lose two on the road, you you
you're going home, so your mind you're saying, well, we
gotta we gotta defend home if we can. If we
can defend home, get too straight and see what we
can do from there, we head back. We could possibly
(04:14):
get I do believe the way it gets two two
one one, and then if it goes to a game seven,
goes back to Boston.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
I do believe that's the way. Right.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
So their whole idea is, Okay, we didn't steal one
so far on the road, but if we can defend
at home and get this thing pulled even, then just maybe,
just maybe we can go on the road and steal one.
Now there, That is to me what Dallas is probably
(04:48):
most likely thinking. But listen, Perzingas didn't have a good
game yesterday statistically across the board. Jason Tatum hasn't been
good offensively in terms of scoring, but he's been a
brilliant facilitator during the course of the series.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Has been more of a facilitator than.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
A score Jalen Brown wasn't crazy on facilitating, but did
pretty good scoring right. And Drew Holidays stole the show.
He stole the show as the player in last evening's game.
And that's the problem you run into against the Celtics.
You know, Horford didn't play very many minutes. Perzingis didn't
(05:30):
play very many minutes. I think it was like twenty
some minutes. They didn't play a lot. But Drew Holliday
was the one that it was like, this is his moment,
tonight is his game. Tatum was only what one point
shower or one assist shy one something, shy of having
a triple double.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
He almost had a triple double in the game.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But it looked as though Dallas thought, Okay, let's play
some three to two rotating perimeter defense and let's see
if we can slow them down offensively, which in some
ways they did. They did, and that's what has to
be so demoralizing and so I guess disheartening and frustrating
(06:15):
if you're Dallas, if you're a Dallas fan, is they
had what seemingly was the defensive scheme to be able
to keep the game competitive, stay in position to either
keep the lead a narrow lead, or to be able
to come back if they did get down and win
the game. It looked like they were executing it well
(06:38):
enough to possibly do it. But you know, too many mistakes,
too many timely, costly mistakes in the game, and you
can't you can't win the big, big game.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
If that's what happens during the course of the.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Game, Dallas is likely they only lost by seven, Like
they're like, they're fortunate. If Boston could just hit a
few threes. I think they shot like twenty five percent
from three or something like that. They just hit a
few more threes, we're looking at a typical fifteen to
twenty point loss. These teams have played four times this year.
They played twice in the regular season. None of those
(07:13):
games were close like this. You're seeing it play out
and watching it just going where's the outside of And
we mentioned, you know, Lucas played well, he's banged up.
Kyrie is not. But like we talked about it before
the series, like Derek White and Drew Holliday are going
to be difference makers. Like people want to argue whether
or not that was a foul on PJ. Washington or
(07:35):
whatnot like that. That's fine, get into the weeds on
that if we want. But they don't have Dallas doesn't
have those guys. Boston does. And to me, that's the
difference in the series as far.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
As it goes.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
I mean, they're one player.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
They're one player shy of being a team that can
compete with Boston. But with that being said, there were
one player, they got that many.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I mean, honestly, it's not like the roster surrounding Luca
and Kyrie is bad. I kind of thought Derek Lively
would have more of an impact given when he came
back in, but that hasn't been the case unfortunately. I
just Boston's deeper, They've got a better they've got a
better game plan to take away Kyrie. They obviously know
kind of his you know, from his background being there.
(08:19):
They kind of know some of his strengths and weaknesses,
and it's just not a matchup that I think is
one that Dallas is gonna be able to win many times.
I mean, they might steal one in the series, but
this thing seems destined for a four game sweep, it
really does. I mean, maybe, like I said, maybe I'll
be wrong.
Speaker 4 (08:36):
No, they don't think there's a chance they could trash
still one at home. But I mean, all things given,
if you're looking at the way that game played out
last night, that one has every indicator that this is
hitting for Sweet.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Drew Holliday, who LeVar you mentioned, was the star of
the game last night. He spoke afterwards about his contributions
and his role.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
With the team, and if you're going to be the
team's leading score, leading rebound, or shoot the highest percentage
and gave to the finals, why aren't you.
Speaker 6 (09:04):
A superstar as well? MEU tility guy. I'll do whatever.
I'm here to win. I feel like they brought me
here to win, and I'll do my best to do that.
At the end of the day, this is their team,
and I know it's probably just as much as my
team as theirs, But I feel like I've talked about
this before. The pressure that they have on themselves to
execute and to be great is a little bit different
than than my pressure. And again I've always been honest
(09:27):
about that, and how they always handle themselves has been
something that's been so honorable. So it's just it's slightly different.
They're superstars and I'm here to support man.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
When remember when people were upset that man, you know
they got rid of Marcus Smart. What the hell they
going to do?
Speaker 5 (09:43):
One of them?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It's like I was.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
One of them.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Then all of a sudden, Malcolm brog didn knew the
writing was on the wall that they were trying to
get rid of him and trying to trade him. And
then Portland's sitting there with you know, they've got Drew
Holiday after the deal with Damian Lillard and the Celtics like, yeah,
we'll take that.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
That's fine. Dread was the same player for the Bucks.
It was the same player. Yes, that's fair. No same
player for the Bucks here a humble guy.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Man. Can I ask this though, is Jason Tatum fuel pressure?
I mean, he's he hasn't played well in the playoffs.
I would say, with a couple of exceptions, I don't
know that he's like he should see it that way,
only because you have such a strong supporting cast, especially
with Porzingi's back, Like if anything, like he doesn't have
(10:33):
to do it all. Like he's not in the position
of Luca, He's not in the position of Kyrie. He
might be viewed as a superstar like them in the NBA.
He does not have to carry this team. Though it's
been proven time and time again throughout these playoffs, they
can still win games and he can have a poor
shooting night. That's just the reality of how this team's constructed.
(10:55):
And so whether it's Jalen Brown or Derek White, or
Porzingis or even al al Horfeit or Derek you know,
it just it doesn't matter like he can Literally we
could talk about there being pressure on Jason Tatum. Okay,
if he has an off night, they're still gonna win
a game. Yeah, that's the repucy of them how this
team's built.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
But it's pressure on on Tatum and Brown for them
to win it all. While what you're saying is is
correct and it's accurate. I think the pressure that Drew
Drew Holliday is talking about as it applies to both
of them is getting over that hump. So regardless of
them having if they do have an off game, whatever happens,
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if they don't have success, they're they're going to be
the ones to blame if they if they're not having
the type of series where they're up to well right now,
those two are going to be the ones to blame.
And then as it as it applies to just personal,
the personal side of it, like they're the megastars, they're
the superstars of this team.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
What are they doing to contribute?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
What what is their role in and in this team
being able to win? I think that those things play
on those two in particular for the simple fact that
it's probably a legacy play involved in it. But there's
also the idea that I heard somebody say this the
other day. They're like to and I don't know if
it's believable or not. I mean, you take it however
(12:19):
you want to take it. But somebody was comparing them
to like they're the they're the new age version of
Scotty and and and Mike WHATMJ like, That's basically what
they're saying, is.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Is heard that from you need to stop, I'll send y'all.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
I'll send y'all the video.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
To be Scotty. Why is that to be Scotty and
m J Sickness Craft.
Speaker 5 (12:46):
They're both black, So I think the point was black.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
He was taking aim.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
He was taking aim at at Kyrie Irving, leaving those
guys before they got to the point of where they're
actually maturing enough to play at the level that they're
playing now.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
And and to me.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
I think that that is a lot of pressure on
them because they have been so close for so long
and have continued to come up short, and now this
could be the the you know, this could be the
breaking of the damn. I mean this, if they can
hold this team together, there's no telling how many times
that they can.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Who's going to beat them? Who's going to beat them?
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Like, because you said something earlier in the segment Q
that I thought was I was thinking about it as well,
like who would have been the better matchup? I feel
like Denver would have been the better matchup for them,
but I don't know that Denver would have.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Been able to hold Denver beat Boston twice in the
regular season. I think I think Minnesota would have been
a tougher matchup than Dallas.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Probably anyone put Dallas. Yeah, it's like, how Dallas get here? Right?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think I think the vancou the Vancouver Grizzlies might
have gotten the game right now. Oh yeah, it just
it's over again.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It goes back to if you go the Western Conference Finals,
Luca and Kyrie played out of this world, and that
just hasn't been the first two games this series. Maybe
they'll figure it out. I don't know, though I'm not
holding my breath.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Looks like it, yeah, I don't look like it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
I mean, do you think it has an do the
Was it Michael Finley because he's black?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Dag Michael Finley.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
There was a reporter that asked Joe Missoula about about this, you.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
Know that about being black?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yeah, about him and Jason Kidd. Oh wow, two coaches?
Who did you see Missoula's response say he asked him,
he goes, huh he guyes. I wonder how many of
those coach has been Christians? Room gotten dead silent, and
then that was it, Like eventually they I think they
moved on another question.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
But I do appreciate a man sharing his faith like that.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
It was meant to be a divisive question, and it
got thrown right back into like something about spirituality and faith.
I was like, all right, I like this. I love
this dude.
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If you were hoping to see one of the all
time great a legend, eh might have a.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
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on that. Give it up here about twenty minutes from
now here from these ti iraq dot com studios. How
about the Detroit Lions. All of a sudden, they win
a playoff game. They think they can like, you know,
skirt around the rules. They think they can just you know,
like bang each other up in practice during OTAs the
week of May twenty seventh, and next thing you know,
(17:37):
they could just get away with it. Not so fast,
says the NFL. They lost their final OTA practice. They
had to forfeit it because there was too much contact
at practice during that week of May twenty seventh. So
my question is, who's the rat right who reported this
to the PA or the league to get them in
(17:58):
true questions, who's the snake?
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Could this also be what divides their locker room and
ruins this season for the Lions?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Can between that out?
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah? Could this be it?
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Mute anarchy?
Speaker 3 (18:14):
This is really common, by the way, as far as
teams get popped for being too physical oas we're also
with the Seahocy twenty thirteen, they basically planned on it.
I mean, that's how I'm not gonna say the off
season is meaningless because it's not for younger players, it's
not for new players, guys coming back from injury. But
(18:37):
there's a thought because it's not in pads, that they
really can't get the work done they'd like to get done.
And you know, old school guys. I think Dan Campbell
falls into that category. I think he's an old school
guy with maybe in some ways a new school approach.
But you know, do you remember the clip we saw
of him talking to the team about hitting and talking
(18:58):
to you It was during training camp, I believe, before
last season, and he was just asking the guys to
trust them and trust him, and he was basically pleading
with them because like he doesn't want to put people
at risk, but in order to practice what you're going
to do in your actual job. In a game, you
got to hit, you gotta bang. There's a lot of
coaches who feel like that, and so if they end
(19:19):
up being too physical, so be it well to take
away one of our tas. Like I remember, I think
half the half the time, a lot of the teams
do something silly anyways, they have a movie or they'll
you're going to play like a softball game or something.
It's like, we look at his team building. But the
truth of the matter is OTAs don't allow you to
(19:40):
truly practice what the sport is. It's why you know
you can get a lot of work done in seven
on seven and people say always seven on seven leagues, Man,
they're awesome. No they're not. It's seven on seven. It's
not football like that. For a quarterback, that's not even football.
Getting up to the line of scrimmage every single play,
having the opportunity to get your head knocked off, but
(20:03):
still having to throw the football. That is football. That
that is what that is about. And so it's to me,
I every time I see a team, this is my
good That team's gonna have a good year because they're
setting the tone early on what their team's gonna be
what their identity is gonna be, and he said it
from his opening press conference. They're gonna bite off your kneecaps.
(20:24):
They're gonna be a physical football team. This probably probably
should happen more than it does, but I'm glad to
hear For the Lions. I think they've got a tone
there set not allowing themselves to look at last year's
success and read too.
Speaker 7 (20:40):
Much into that. So I love this news coming out
of Detroit.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
It just continues as you mentioned, it just continues the
theme that Dan Campbell is pushing for that they ain't
laughing around, and not only is it is it something
that you definitely I remember being under Gray Williams. And
there's a lot of things I could say that I
didn't like about Greg Williams, but one of the few
(21:05):
things that I can say I did like about him
is he had a we don't f around mentality, and
we want that to be the reputation and we want
that to be what resonates from from our camp. So
this is like what they're doing is they're they're taking
the punishment, but they're putting everybody in the NFL. They're
(21:26):
putting them on notice. All the other teams. They're putting
them on notice. All the NFC North teams, you're on notice.
We're about to come kick yourll ass. All the other
NFC teams, We're going to come out of the NFC
this year. We're going to kick your ass. We're not
joking around, We're not playing around. This was not a fluke.
The Detroit the Detroit Lions is a team that you're
(21:48):
going to have to deal with, and you're going to
have to deal with the fact that we're doing it
our way. And it's in a way that in a
lot of ways you mentioned seven on seven, the old guard,
the old style of how people played when Dan Campbell
was a player is vastly different. It's evolved from from
(22:09):
then to now as to how things are are done,
how they're seeing, how they're interpreted. And and I'll say this,
the one thing that I love the most about about
Harball in Michigan this past this past college year is
that you take a guy that brought old school rules
and old school principles and a new school style of
(22:32):
how things are done, and he basically proved that the
old way of doing things in some ways, in some
regards may be, may be obsolete, but there's one thing
that will never ever ever unless it's it's it's governed
out of the game is the physicality of the sport.
(22:54):
You saw a Michigan team basically bully their way to
a national championship. You've watched the Detroit Lions continue to
grow in the way in the style of bully ball,
bully football.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
I love it, and old is back.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Old is back.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
I don't know that it's back, but I do know this.
I do know the people that.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, no, way, too hard into that.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Yeah, he's not old enough to even say that.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Well, listen, it's like when you see all these teams
going to their retro jerseys. Now, all right, bringing back
the throwbacks.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
But that's just for a look. Is that just more
so for a look.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That's because if you really were bringing them back to
be old school, then you would just.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
Bring them back.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Brady told me one time. He said, it's not Brady
told me, it's a way of life, his words, exactly,
So dollars, it's ten dollars ten.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
That was passive aggressive, passive aggressive.
Speaker 7 (23:52):
If it was first.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Off, well, this is some kangaroo cordiator. We don't have
a fine system. No one ever paid up. I donated
one month, Jonas, I never saw I never saw the receipt.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
That's all said, right, because it didn't exist.
Speaker 5 (24:06):
I never say anything that gets me fine.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
So that is one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
You should be fined more than anybody has.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
Jonas though went off Washington.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
I saw the old school.
Speaker 7 (24:22):
Tangent for a long long time.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That was like you could tell Jonas is born in
the wrong.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
Era, oldest back. I'm a throwback, you know, the sifties,
an old soul, you.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Know in a lot of ways, because that that leather
jacket that you wear is definitely old. Screen on tribolta
like like t birds Like all you got was spray
paint tea birds on the bag going brown, like I.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
Want to one of the outsiders, you know with with
pony Boy, Curtis Botts. Let me ask you this, what
is considered too much contact in practice? Are they are
they lightening people up? A great quest, It's a great question.
Is it bulling the ring? Is it Oklahoma drills? What
are we looking at when it comes to too much
contact in practice?
Speaker 5 (25:11):
It's about interpretation.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I would assume, yeah, I mean, I would assume.
Speaker 7 (25:15):
How vague that that was. It's by interpretation.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
Just say, if like someone's out there, they're just like,
oh that looks too physical.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
Yes, how do you measure it? How do you think?
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I mean, there really isn't supposed to be any contacts,
So I would assume there's still elements of one on
ones that go on with linemen. There's still elements of
one on ones that go on with DB's wide receivers
and linebackers, running backs, and even in seven on seventeen periods,
there'll be you know, spots where guys are kind of
almost hitting one another little bit. I remember even in
(25:48):
a walk through we had back in twenty thirteen, it
was like full speed. It was it sorted out as
a walk through, but there was like a two minute drill,
which maybe this was the genius of Pete Carroll, is
he knew it, like couldn't like, how can you do
a hurry up offense in two minute?
Speaker 7 (26:04):
How could you do that in slow motion?
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Like it's impossible to do it a walk through fashion
against the defense. So obviously one side started to speed up,
and then the other side speeds up, then their side
speeds up. The other side speeds up because it gets competitive,
so like guys are full blown like and jammed with
a lot of scrimmage. They're like like using hands and
just the whole thing. There's all of a sudden a
pass rush. You're like, what is happening?
Speaker 4 (26:28):
It's period where it's going to get that that you're
going to get that notification.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
Honestly though sometimes it's not even the NFL and players
have said this for a long time. Who are a
player rep is? They feel like they're in a position
where they can't win because everyone knows who the player
reps are and if you end up losing a practice,
they look they're like squarely turn over and look at
that player. They're like, oh you're riding aside.
Speaker 7 (26:52):
Huh okay.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I always say that play time incentive lois this year,
you know, like well or maybe they cut them all together?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
I mean didn't Kevin?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
But why have a Pro Bowl season and he couldn't
get a contract the following year? As it being the
NFLPA president was something like that, Yeah, who did was
here the Titans?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
Because maybe he was with the Jets and then is
that when he went to the Titans.
Speaker 3 (27:17):
I just remember him being the NFLPA president and there's
it was like the year after I was like, uh, yep,
no one's gonna sign him.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Like really he was awesome. Granted he was.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
He was really high up in age, like he was,
you know, on his way to being you know, I think,
what forty years old. But he was an All Pro
the year before, he was a Pro Bowl. Next year,
it was like he's still able to play another year
or two and nothing. And he was a tennis he
was at Tennessee the end of his career.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Were you guys a player rep.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
Doesn't It's the samest way to be plausible diability man
the other guys, I'm still one of you guys.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
I'm not. I'm not all the way through.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I don't even know why I was saying, I'm not
a union guy, Like sorry for people out there reporting
unions and all that. Although I will tell you I
had to volunteer at the golf tournament this past weekend,
and I did try to get the boys to I
got to tell you at the Boys of Union as
a little bit for that.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
So I never got into it.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
Did you guys see the story Matt Light put out
about being a part of the NFL p A and
the trip to Hawaii. Bill Belichick.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Yeah, that Alzheimer so good.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
But you can't even do it justice by repeating the
story on the air. You have to read the email
because it's so much sarcasm from Bellick.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
We used to let lights on the story. Do we
have a sound on that?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
I don't believe we do.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
It's long, that's the only thing.
Speaker 1 (28:42):
But it's it's pretty pretty tremendous what.
Speaker 4 (28:50):
I've been a move man. I'm needly cute. He's not
biting on it.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
It's fun.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
It's just it's fine, though, trying to do a professional
broadcast here. And then he said, was.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
I started talking bad about reps?
Speaker 4 (29:04):
That he said? He nothing. I would want to repeat
what I just But there was another one that was
he said he said it was really long. Yeah that
I had a response for it, but it was quick
and it was under my breath so we didn't have
to dump it.
Speaker 5 (29:23):
It was good.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
I think now that we're drawing attention to it, it makes
it that much better.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Damn.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
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Speaker 10 (31:11):
Good morning everybody, Good morning, good Monday morning, Good morning Jonas,
Good morning Brady, Good morning LeVar. Guys, in casey miss this, Lap,
in fact, we all miss this. A fight that should
be happening on Hey Brady, A fight that should be
happening in July twentieth between the beloved Mike Tyson.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
And Jake Paul.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 10 (31:33):
Oh, it's gonna happen. And you know when it's gonna happen.
It's gonna happen November fifteenth, still at at and T Stadium.
That's what it's been moved to. Cool, casey miss is
not going to happen.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
I don't lost a lot of them metal, Oh it's
going to happen. I did see a post of Jake
Paul frustrating the rain, you know, did you? Yeah, there's
like some post out there. I was like, oh cool.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Yeah, I at least he gets to say, Mike duckting.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Well did he? So what what happened on?
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Is that? Besides you?
Speaker 4 (32:09):
But all right, I mean I'm just saying, I'm just
putting it out there, you know, create a little little drama.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So what happened on the flight? What did what was
his medical issue?
Speaker 5 (32:17):
An ulcer or something? Ulcer flara? Yes, I wonder what
that feels like.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
Var I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Todd might know.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Does Todd get ulcers?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think? So brilliant?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
All right, I don't know. Yeah, So what does it?
What does it feel like when when you deal with
one of those? I mean, because I look, I am
having little interest in this fight initially, and it's even
less now and more interest and now I have less.
(32:53):
I just want I'm not I'm not into it, man,
I really don't. It feels like it's gonna be a
spectacle and it's in November. It's during football season. It
was a great summertime event. It was like Mayweather McGregor,
that was a great summertime event. Once football's here.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
I those we're still both like Floyd still like relatively
competitive at that point of when he fought McGregor, you know,
and McGregor was still relatively competitive when they fought.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
This is not that.
Speaker 4 (33:29):
So it was just the intrigue of iron Mike Tyson,
like at one point time the most dangerous, most feared
man on the face of the planet. Like, but that's
not him today. But you're intrigued to see if there's
still some of that after you saw him fight, you know,
spar with Roy Jones, you know, Roy Jones Junior. So
(33:50):
I just don't think it's going to happen. I don't
I don't think it's good. I don't think it happened.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
The one thing they did that was smart. It's on
a Friday night, all right, so at least it's on
a Friday, so they're not trying to wedge it in
between a bunch of college football on a Saturday, so
that might help it out a little bit. But yeah,
I'm I'm not positive this is gonna happen. What else
we got lead out?
Speaker 10 (34:10):
Well, guys, in case you missed this, Caitlyn Clark has
been quote unquote snubbed from the UH from the team
USA for the Paris Olympics.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
She had some comments about it.
Speaker 11 (34:20):
Take a listen, honestly, no disappointment, Like I think it
just gives you something, something to work for. You know,
that's a dream. You know hopefully what can be there.
And I think it's just a little more motivation. You
remember that, and you know hopefully in four years, when
four years comes back around, you know I can be there.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Hmm.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
I was thinking about this.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
How many things?
Speaker 1 (34:39):
How many things do I care less about than the
w n B A And there's just not a lot,
you know. I was really thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
It's so high up there to not care about it.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I'm like, you know, I just really do it. Just
it feels like there's so much fake out.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
That's you.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
There's people who care that. People want to be divisive
about this. Here's my only thing is you know, look
is she how many how many girls go twelve fifteen,
twelve thirteen, twelve thirteen, whatever it is?
Speaker 5 (35:08):
Fourteen?
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I mean, look, maybe she's not one of the twelve best, like, like,
are we only sending her over there because we want
to get people to watch or are you trying to win?
Like her career in college was unbelievable? Can you right
now say she is one of the best twelve players
a WNBA, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (35:28):
I'm not gonna act like I know anything about the WNBA.
I watched Kaitler Clark from time and time. That's about it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
So I don't get the outrage like people she's gotta
be a part of why for TV ratings?
Speaker 7 (35:39):
If she's not the best, then don't put her.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Apart of it.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
It's the new trendy debate topic, that's all.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, it's like, okay, look she and she said everything
the right way.
Speaker 7 (35:49):
It's motivation.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
It's just that, okay, great, Like she's you know, maybe
she's upset about it, just pointed behind the scenes, or
thinks she should be a part of it.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
Who cares like that that was the decision that they made.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
Let's move on, like, let her get some rest, let
her be a you know, take a break from.
Speaker 7 (36:04):
All this for a little bit. I don't get the outrage.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
I just for a lot of people, by the way,
who didn't give a crap a year ago about the
w n b A. Now they're outraged about it because
Kale's not like part of it. It's like just relaxed people.
All right.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
They didn't take Quille O'Neil, so you know, it's not
the first time and it's not just women.
Speaker 7 (36:24):
You said when he was in the in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (36:27):
Well, he was coming out of college. They took I
believe they took Christian Lake.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Later, yeah, which Layner was, you know again, but he
was fewed as one of the better college players. That's
not that that's not the standard, like the greatest ever,
but the apples and.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
Oranges comparison though.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
That's the difference is they're not taking on college players,
you know, they're not like that's not part of the
structure of this team. So that that whole I saw
that point. It doesn't make any sense for this So
it's crucial late like that's like people wanting to make
it well Cleyland Colork should be a part of this.
It's like, well no, if they don't feel like she's
one of the best, and Syvie.
Speaker 7 (37:00):
They communicated to her. She communicated to them like.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Fifty two days boys until the first spring, the first
preseason game in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
I don't even have any feelings towards I did a
post on it yesterday and it went nuts, so crazy,
how how into this people are.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
But Americans are so.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Especially us as sports fans, we are such well, it's
not even sports fans, I say, in general, it's just
like mock outrage.
Speaker 5 (37:36):
There's so many things that we.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Love to have fake ass outrage about, and Caitlin Clark
is turning into one of those people that people have
fake outrage, like you're not really outraged, like relaxed.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
If the WNBA was playing their All Star game in
my backyard, I'd go do laundry at somebody else's house.
Couldn't care less what else.
Speaker 5 (37:57):
We got there.
Speaker 10 (37:57):
By the way, she's twenty two, will be twenty six
next time, which is the youngest age of the youngest
player going to Paris.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Madden comes out tomorrow, but not enough.
Speaker 5 (38:08):
Time for the SoundBite here.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
We will figure that out tomorrow, all right,
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