June 12, 2024 • 50 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the guys preview a must-win for the Mavs in Game 3 of the Finals. Jon Rahm’s foot infection is the biggest thing in golf since Scottie Scheffler’s arrest. Sean Payton couldn’t care less about the critics. The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks about the Lakers whiffing on Dan Hurley and more.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar arrings Brady Win and Jonas Knox on Box
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've got Game three in the NBA Finals coming up
later on tonight, and we've got ourselves a little bit
of drama, a little bit of drama in the NBA Finals.
The Celtics are up two games to none, but there
is concern Christops Porzingis suffered a rare injury in Game two.
You see, if I can get this right, described as
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a torn medial retinaculum, allowing dislocation of the posterior to
be alis tendon in his left leg.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Did I do it?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think I got it. What do you think about that, Brady?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
That's pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, put that in your splint and smoke it. That's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Side of the knee to the back of the knee
to almost sound like the front of the knee. I mean,
it just sounds like his whole knee is just on on.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
The blink, well his ankle like it's it's low or
his ankle, yeah, whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
The leg's a leg sounds it sound like his knee.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I'm just reading medial I didn't even know your ankle
had all that going on.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I just your ankle, well.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
Yeah, you got like a tibiaphibia fibula, right or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So did not know that.
Speaker 8 (01:28):
I thought that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I thought, is your ship in your ankle?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, it's when you have a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
You get those two like those two bones you know that,
go dotter me me, Yeah, yeah, it's like all the
stuff around that.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean, like all the stuff around those areas.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I just never all right, Well,
do you want to hear Joe Missoula, the head coach
of the Celtics, Yeah, afterwards after the game the other night,
which I think was like two three months ago, he
said that, look he's good, not concerned at all. Then
obviously they did some imaging, came back whatever we just
(02:08):
described happened, and so Joe Missoula spoke yesterday to the
media about his concern.
Speaker 9 (02:14):
He's doing anything and everything he can to be ready
for the game tomorrow. It's a serious injury and at
the end of the day, our team and the medical
team is not going to put him in any bad situations.
We've taken a decision to play out of his hands
because the importance of him, and so he's going to
do everything he can to play, and then we're going
to leave it up to our medical team.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now I've seen conflicting reports as to whether or not
he's going to play the rest of the series. Some
people have said, well, it's a pain management thing, you
could brace it up. A friend of the program, doctor
David Chow, said, not happening. He's going to need surgery
at some point. What is your guys' best guess as
to whether or not he's available for the.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Rest of the season. What would you say? Yeah, I mean,
this is it? Yeah, yeah, this is it.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
You do think he's playing of our No, he's done.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think they rest him tonight and they dust him
off for emergency purposes.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
His numbers, his numbers were if you were looking at
his numbers, his numbers were low. Last game, his his
minutes were low, his numbers were low. So it was
already taking place in the last game. He's not going
to play, and and and listen, I could say they
don't need him, but they do.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
They do need him. So I've always been a big fan.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well, here's here's the thing, right, even if he's not
getting points Fellas, it's his presence in the paint. Right,
What had what has been the biggest storyline so far
outside of the domination of the Celtics, what's been the
other storyline?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, it's Kyrie Irving, right.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
And his his inability to really really get going, right,
That's that's what That's what really has stood out and
has been discussed like is it the fact that he
used to be a Celtic and he can't get it
out of his head and this that, and no, it's
the paint. It's the paint.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Defense.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Kyrie Irving has been limited in his ability to be
able to drive and penetrate to the cup. And what
has been Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving's way of getting
the offense going has been being able to penetrate, get
Lively going, get Gaffer going and opens it up for
PJ from the outside and the inside. And they have
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not been able to get Kyrie on that playing field,
so to speak, this series, and partially due in fact,
to the presence of Porzingis in the paint. You remove
Perzingis and now it's al Horford again. Is there the
possibility that the conversation can shift to what it was
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heading into this series? Can they defend the paint with
just Al Horford? His numbers have been cut in half
since Porzingis came back. Porzingis goes out. Now Horford's numbers
are going to have to go back up. He hasn't
shot much, hasn't been much of a factor in the series.
But does he become a factor in the series. This
series is not over, it goes back again. We had
(05:15):
the conversation, if you can draw the series to two
and two and defend your home.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Court, then now it becomes a series.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I know people are putting dirt on the Mavericks and
all their they don't have enough yet, I mean, they
don't have enough. They it's an uphill battle, and all
of those sentiments are accurate. But I think this is
a tremendous loss if Perzingis is not and listen, you
gotta presume even if he is able to play. Missoula said,
it is a serious injury. When the coach says it's
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a serious injury, that means it's really bad. It's bad,
Like he doesn't you don't sit there and say that
out loud in this game three, one of the most
critical games of the series right now, and say it
that way. You just don't do it, so for him
to acknowledge it that way in them to be where
they're at right now. This could have a tremendous effect
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and impact on Kyrie Irvin getting himself going in this series.
And the worst thing that could happen is you go
from neutralizing Doncic by making him play defense. Everybody thinks
he's tired. Okay, Well, if Kyrie Irving gets going and
he's able to start penetrating, and now Horford is not
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able to be what he needs to be, which he
has not been in series past, then now you better
see Derek Lively. He better come to the show. Daniel Gofford,
he better come to the show.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
PJ.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Washington has played his ass off the entire playoffs. He's
made a name for himself if you didn't already know
who he is, so and then Luca's got to be Luca.
This could actually turn this series into a watchable and
tolerable series.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
In my estimation, yeah, it's over us. It's uh yeah,
I mean it's not. It's not ideal that was.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That was a great explanation, though it was no Well,
I mean, it's not ideal, but I think if Dallas
is gonna get a game, this would be the one.
But I look at the series and I go, man,
the Celtics didn't play great last game. Like it's not
like they shot the ball well, like the idea that
they're gonna shoot the three as poorly as they did
last game, and yet they still won by the margin
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they won by with Porzingis dinged up and everything they
came along with it. I just think Drew Holliday has
been too much. I think Derek White's been too much.
I think they're gonna there's gonna be They're gonna figure
this out some way, somehow without Porzingis. Now, this is
just the fourth time in the last ninety nine games
that the Celtics are an underdog. So they've been pretty
(07:49):
uh you know, favored for majority of the year and
majority of the past year plus. I think, look, if
you like Dallas in this game, then then that's probably
a smart player.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But I just I still don't like it. Probably not.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It just feels like a bad matchup.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And also it's still a bad match Boston's better on
the road, and and they're better on the road. They
haven't lost on the road all postseason. So I just
I don't know, man. I mean, I know that there's
a lot of people trying to find some some.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hope, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean Kyrie, you know, he's clearly focused on on
just the NBA Finals check your text.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah, not anything else out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
That, No, definitely not no. But he's learned.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean, we we are past that time, and uh,
it's the whole.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
He feels like he's worldly and very culture and knowledgeable
forget about what's in front of right now.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Just you know, I mean, like I don't get it, man,
I really don't. But okay, all right, So so there
it is. That is your Dallas, your your game.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Three looks, and huh, at some point it just had
to happen. You had to do something. I mean, hey, listen,
and he's giving you in that moment. He's just he's
basically he's letting you know, he's you know, this is
the game, this is the game for him.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
He's gonna he's going to get himself back on track.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I don't know that that that post has anything to
do with it. But if there's any hope or opportunity
for one of the most gifted basketball players in our game,
in our NBA game that we've ever seen, it's it's tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's tonight.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Because again, I just don't think with all the things
that you said offensively, you're one hundred percent correct. This
Celtics team is just they're far too loaded to to
be crippled on the offensive side of the court by
not having prizingis it's the defensive side that's going to
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to play a part in this.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, Press, it's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
It's there's if they can if they can still manage
to keep Kyrie and check or keep him confused on
on how to get going and gain some confidence, it'll
be it'll be the same result. It'll be a three
to zero series heading into a sweet game, a close
out game in Dallas. But I just I get the
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feeling they're coming home, that's one thing. So they're going
to be in a friendly environment. And we can say
that Boston plays well on the on the road and
having lost that's that's what the the you know, record says.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That's great. But if you're.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Going to have one game where Luca and Kyrie snap
out and have one of them type of games. It's
it's this one and so now again it comes back
to having a limited amount of firepower on the defensive
side and knowing that that ou Rford struggles when he's
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in that sole role of being a defender in the paint.
They I mean, this is this is a Jason Kidd,
this is a Jason Kid game. It's gotta be structured
in a way where they take advantage of what they've
done all all playoffs long, which is you open it
up by being able to shoot, and you drive it,
(11:23):
and you give Lively and Gafford, those guys in Washington,
you give them easy buckets at the realm. That's what
they've done. Now they killed the Timberwolves with that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Luca's also got the the Nectar from the Gods gone.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I'm about to say, don't we ain't even got to
talk about him because they they you know, when they
hit him with that, it's like nothing ever happened. Like
I saw in the notes that they're going to give
it to them before the game. Yet, name me, name
me a guy that doesn't get the Nectar of the
Gods before a game.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, name me name me a couple. Shouldn't you just
do it even if you don't need it.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean some guys do it even if you don't
need it.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, I don't care, you know, just say just
in case, you know, if something happens, like.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
You rolling out and I don't appreciate Vardo giving a
passionate speech about the MAVs and and this game and
just keeping it close, Like I feel like, do you
think they're gonna win tonight?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
This is their best chance?
Speaker 6 (12:24):
This tonight is their best chance night tonight, not not yesterday,
not tomorrow, Tonight, this is their best opportunity to make
this a series.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
I mean, to one one first, because it just feels
like it's a it's a mismatch.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
It's still a mits match. I'm not I'm acknowledging it's
a mismatch. I'm acknowledging that. But this is their best chance,
Prizinga's out, it's their best chance. Yes, it's their best chance.
With everything that's going on, this is going to have
to be a coaching game. This is a strategy game,
(13:07):
and you got it. You have got to tell Kyrie
face to face, man, the man. You've got to be
Kyrie irving in order for this team to have a
shot out winning.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
No, he's focused.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
You know, Luca can't do it on his own. It's
shown he can't do it on his own. And he's focused. Listen,
it's got you or something else.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm just saying, like he's you know, clearly, like everything's
about basketball. It's just we're just focusing on basketball with
a Kyrie. But who knows, I'd be listened. We'll get
to see how it plays out tonight. So Game three
coming up later on tonight. As a stands right now,
Curtis draftings the Dallas Mavericks are a two and a
half point favorite, two and a half point favorite. Boston
(13:52):
still a minus eight hundred to win the series.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Though, so and the Lakers still don't have a head coach.
They don't, No, they don't.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
It is uh to Brady Quinn, Let's take it pictures
with Brett Michaels.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
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Speaker 3 (14:07):
What is that about? Where did that come from?
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Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, would.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Cisco, I'm a day.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I mean he was very passionate about it, very passionate.
Let me babe, please, and as we found it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And as we found out later on, as we found
out later on, not a method actor, so you know,
saying hell.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
In his little movie. Uh, you know, debut the acting.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Oh yeah, if there's anything out there where let it
all hang out.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Jonas will find it.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Hey, you know, you got to tell the whole truth
and nothing about the truth. It is so help me God,
but can we please, can we please discuss the fact
that there's been more pictures that have come out on
John Rahm, who is not participating in the US Open. Uh,
this infection he's got between on his left foot radiaded
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and the good, the bad, the ugly. He's got an
infection between his fourth and fifth toe on his left foot,
and he's wearing like a little splint to keep him
separated or something. And like, listen, the tan line is
from outer space, but that's what you'd call a gnarly
tan line. Yeah, I just I'm trying to figure out,
(16:57):
because Lee and I were talking during the break, is
it like ath each foot gone wrong?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
It might be like that joint might be cracked because
because Q's right like his toes, I mean pause, his
toes aren't ugly. He don't have it, don't look like
he got ugly toes. So it's gotta be behind that splint.
If you if he removed that splint and showed you
the webbing of his toe, I bet you that's where
(17:23):
it is. That bad boy's probably cracked and it's probably sore.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Probably what it is, how's that happen? Fungus?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
When you have fungus among us?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Things happen even doesn't look like his fungus anywhere else?
Like why would you clean all the rest of your
toes in combination of toes but you'd leave those two out.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
It just seems I'm no doctor or medical person. I
just I just know he that's probably what it is.
He's probably got a crack in between there, like like
a what are they called a brass or whatever he's
probably got you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
There, So ToeJam gone bad.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Basically, I don't know how it would just happen between
one set of toes, you know, I don't. I don't know,
but that's what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't know any other guesses as to how this
ToeJam went bad on John Ram's fourth and fifth toe
on his left foot.
Speaker 12 (18:26):
Uh no, I mean it looks like he takes okay
care of himself. But I did read a very troubling
survey not too long ago. A lot of people don't
wash the bottom halves of themselves. They assume the they
assume the body wash goes just just tricking down.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Still, where are you getting that information?
Speaker 12 (18:53):
I forget it was a while ago.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
But on the Google.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Lead, the last lead to lap shower information, why would
talk about how many surveyors won?
Speaker 8 (19:07):
It was a.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Troubling It was a troubling amount. I mean, if you're
already in there, why wouldn't you clean You're already in there.
What's the point?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
But why would it only be one?
Speaker 8 (19:16):
All right?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
So I had a situation happened with a family member
one time, and they had that same type of splint
on on their toe. Is there the possibility that it's
not a toe infection? But it may have been a
they you know, maybe had a night, you know, had
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a couple elbow bending evenings or a evening, hit their toe,
their pinky toe off of the side of a wall
or a cabinet or some type of object that dislocated
their pinky toe, and then you have to put it
back in place, and you gotta let it heal.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
So you put a.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Splint on it, and that's the splint because you can't
you can't do anything else with it if you were
to dislocate it or do something to that effect. I mean,
is there a possibility that that could be what it is?
I just don't see how you have a toe infection
and it's only in one place. Yeah, just generally that's
like like you say, athletes foot. You mentioned athletes foot.
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That's fungus spreads, so it wouldn't it wouldn't look so
like if it's going to hit one piece of webbing,
it's going to spread.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
We're still talking about his foot infection.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, wow, I mean, do you I think so? I
mean and that what jonas well?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
No, listen, because we're trying to get to the bottom
of this. This is a major tournament and he's like
bottom like it's it's too bad and it's a it's
a shame that it's happened. I just think based on
the Tan line, it doesn't look like that guy has
ever not worn shoes, so an accident barefoot doesn't seem plausible.
Like he seems like he's worn shoe use for about
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eleven years straight and never taking them off.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Based on the.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Tand line, yeah, I mean it's it's something. So there's
your uh, your coverage of the the PGA here on
this show on two pros and a cup of Joe,
by the way, second most interesting golf story this year,
next to Scotti Scheffler's arrest.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, I think so this we've really done.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
It here show, and that confirms why I don't like
golf all like that. If those are your two biggest stories.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
All right, Well somebody you might like is Sean Payton.
He's the brand new head coach of the of the
Denver Broncos, and he also talked about body parts because
he was asked about whether or not he has a
chip on his shoulder heading into this season. Let's take
a listen.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I have two middle fingers.
Speaker 13 (21:54):
I've gotten better with the age, not using them, I think, and.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
I would say this is chain for me.
Speaker 13 (22:01):
It's more inward focused relative to our own team and
what we're doing relative to as you get older in
this you don't waste the calories on certain things that
I might have. You know back in six seven eight,
you know, I don't play a lot of video games,
but you got X amount of battery life and energy
(22:22):
and you try to use it where you think it's
best going to help the team. And so you learn
over time to not spend as much on the things
you can't control. Or yeah, certainly lists or I mean
if that concerned me, we wouldn't have drafted bo Nicks,
you know where we selected them.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So sounds like somebody who's got a ring and he's like, yeah,
whatever happens is cool.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Is this the same coach you're through? Nathaniel Hacket under
the bus.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Last year, that's correct, all the way under and.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Then after the season to work out they benched Russell
Wilson and he though he's statistically had a decent year,
he throw him under the bus because he was the issue.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Right Yeah, basically, okay, Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Trying to get all this stuff straight before we talk
about the subject because you know now he's drafted bo Knicks,
yet they bring in Zach Wilson, and apparently Zach Wilson,
I'm sure at Stidham and bo Nicks.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Are now all competing for the job. Okay, I just.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I wonder depending on how the season goes for Denver,
Look if they win their competitive pat him on the back,
give them all the high fives, top gun at whatever
you want. Obviously that would be a surprise. Given the
division they play. I think they look to be, if
not the worst, somewhere down there with Las Vegas. No
(23:42):
disrespect to AP, we love AP, but I would say
that Vegas has a better roster. Vegas to me is
still a step ahead of even Denver. And so it's
Kansas City, it's the Chargers, it's Vegas, then it's probably
Denver at least how you're looking at things.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
So if he can make them into a competitive.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Football that you know, makes the playoffs or even has
a winning record, that's a huge win. I think for
the standpoint that they're in a cap situation where they've
got to take on a bunch of money for Russell Wilson,
which was a poor arranged marriage but something that Sean
Payton signed up for. And now Sean Payton at least
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has this quarterback he's drafted, he's got to be accountable for,
and I guess a roster that he's now had control
over for a couple of years. So the truth is
this is all on him. We talked about earlier not
being a make or break year for DeShawn Wats because
of his contract situation. To me, in my mind, this
is a make or break year for Sean Payton, and
(24:41):
I understand he could have a rookie quarterback potentially starting
seventeen games, but this is all his doing, from how
he got there to what's transpired since then to this moment. Now,
this is all his doing, and maybe he will be
raising the middle fingers at the end of the year
with a winning record or making the playoffs, but they've
(25:03):
got an uphill battle, and let's not be mistaken about it.
You know, if I was saying I would very early
on find whether it's Nicks or whoever else, the person
that's going to be leading my offense, because every single
one of those reps is going to be incredibly invaluable
to prepare them for a conference that's tough as the
defending two times Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Their win totals five and a half, think about that, like,
if they go six and eleven, they've exceeded expectations basically
this upcoming year. So yeah, not ideal as two middle fingers,
Like I'm looking around the NFL, like what other teams
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are in the vicinity of five and a half wins
for their over under You've got you're keeping company with
Carolina and yeah, I think New England and that's it.
Carolina New England are the only other teams kind of
kind of float around that area. So it doesn't seem
like it's going to go great for the Denver Broncos
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this year. Plus fifteen hundred to win the division, so big,
big payout if you're a believer in Sean Payton and company.
I just I think that also had the Charger job
and open, he would have taken that over this one.
And I think I wonder if just part of him
is like, well, listen, if it works, it works. If not,
you know, I'll go back and do TV. Like it
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just is not. It's not going to be that big
of a deal to him. He's already got his ring,
and I do, I do appreciate the fact that, you know,
he was one of the more outspoken when it came
to criticizing Roger Goodell when he wore the Roger Goodell
clown shirt after the botched call in the NFC Title
Game years ago. So you know, he's got a he's
got a hell of a reputation. That's Sean Payton. So
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there's your coverage of the Denver Broncos here. As we
transition smoothly from John Rahm's foot infection to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Right now, it's the return of the old pe Petros Papadakis,
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to seven
e LA Sports. Also a Fox College football analyst, Pee
What's happening?
Speaker 14 (27:17):
Good morning, Hello, Hello, good morning to you, good morning, hello.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Back, good morning.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Petros. Your reaction to the fiasco that was the hunt
for Dan Hurley by the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Oh wow.
Speaker 14 (27:36):
You know, I knew we were going to talk about this,
but I didn't know how to quite approach it. I mean,
first of all, did it catch you off guard?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, nobody expected it.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Can I put it this way, Petros, My thought on
it was, it's the you know, it's one of the
most storied franchises in sports, and he's won back to
back national championships.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
The college sports world seems.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
A bit chaotic to the point where I mean, if
there was ever a time where you want to, you know,
jump ship to make an excuse the jump ship, that
would be it. And it just it feels like I'm
not saying he won't get the opportunity to get in
the future, but it's the Lakers, and so I at
least thought he would contemplate it longer than the twenty
four hours where he flies out, he interviews, flies back,
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and it's done.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Like it's that quick of a decision.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Maybe there was more going on behind the scenes for
a longer period of time, but that was what was
surprising to me.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Now, you, LaVar, you're an East Coast guy, right.
Speaker 14 (28:48):
You were born and raised on the East Coast, Yes, sir, Yeah,
and I'm I'm not, you know, I have no East
Coast roots really or flavor or anything like that. People
think that I'm from the East Coast. They used to
a lot when I was younger, But I'm not. And
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it's funny because we were talking about it when the
news broke, and my radio partner was really excited and
they're finally sticking it to Lebron and telling them to
pound sand and all this.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Stuff's gonna happen.
Speaker 14 (29:22):
And I saw a picture of his wife, Dan Hurley's wife,
and she's a Greek American whose last name is like
Sadai's or something like that. I got to check again
and she has the map of Thessalo Nikiya on her face,
like she looks like a real Greek woman, And I
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was like, there's no way she's coming to live in
Manhattan Beach.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
There is.
Speaker 14 (29:50):
No freaking way, Like you can look like that and
be Greek and be born out here and you're just stuck.
And you go to my church, the Saint Atherine's Church
in Redondo if you're a South Bay type. But I
just I saw her face, and I know the level
of Greek food and the East Coast stuff that people
expect that are from the East Coast and you're not
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gonna get it here. So the wife being so Greek
and East coast e was kind of an angle. And also,
I mean, I don't care if it was if they
low balled him or they didn't low ball him, or
it's an iconic franchise or what. Here's a guy, Dan
Hurley who's got a pretty healthy ego, right seems that way,
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and he's got his own way of doing things. A
lot of these fiery college guys who are coaching guys
to try to get to the NBA are not as
successful when they're in the NBA because they're super fiery
and the NBA guys they just don't listen in that
kind of way.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
You just don't coach them in that way. It hasn't worked.
Speaker 14 (30:56):
Out for a lot of guys over the years. Rick Patino,
John Calipari. I mean, the list goes on and on
of fiery college coaches who have had an adverse kind
of effect at the next level. But to me, the
elephant in the room is Lebron James, Like, who wants
to go? Coaches don't live in a vacuum. Coaches support
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each other. Actually, a lot more than a lot of
professions do. And I'll tell you why, because they're always
getting fired, and they're always watching each other get fired.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And of course they.
Speaker 14 (31:32):
Have guaranteed money and this and that and their contracts
and all the things that made it incongruous about the
transfer portal and stuff like that over the years, But
coaches have watched Lebron James undermine everybody there for a
decade and on different teams, the eye rolling, the bumping
of Eric Spolstra, trying to get Spolster fired, and pat
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Riley wouldn't do it. All these stories from over the years,
and then we're supposed to sit there and act like
he's not involved at all in the process. And why
would you want to go deal with that? If you're
going to be in the NBA and you have all
this scrutiny, you're the best coach in college and everybody
loves you. Suddenly you're going to become a terrible coach again.
And Lebron's gonna take the whiteboard from your hands and
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start drawing up place like he did with Darvin Ham.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
That's not cool.
Speaker 14 (32:23):
I wouldn't want to go deal with that for any
amount of money, And move my angry wife to the
West coast.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
So I.
Speaker 14 (32:32):
Didn't see it as much of a possibility when people
were talking about it. And yeah, there is that element
of it. It's the Lakers. They're going to throw money
at it and all this. We've talked to every expert,
from Steve Lapis on the East Coast to people embedded
with the Lakers, to every NBA insider you can think
of in the last few days, and the general consensus
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is that a lot of them saw behind the curtain
and the way things are being run, which is what
I've told you for years about the Lakers. I mean,
just think about the way Magic joined them and then
left and all of this dysfunction since doctor Buss has died.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Unfortunately, I didn't I mean I just didn't.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
I didn't think he liked to seeing how the sausage
was being made out here. So all of that said,
where do they go from here? Which is the way
that's clear?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
What is the next steps there? I mean, do they
go back to JJ Reddick? I mean, does JJ.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Redick won it after? I guess knowing that Dan Hurley
was apparently the number one option.
Speaker 14 (33:33):
Well that was what the like the funniest thing about
this is the information war, right like, and it's between
two guys. It's Adrian war Janowski, who we used to
put on the show literally twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I was gonna ask you what do you make of
his his change since you guys used to add him
have him on p.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
Well, I mean, he sold his soul to the devil,
but the price wasn't cheap and he knows that God
bless him. I mean he came on our show once
and said that everything about ESPN discussed him, everything the
way they do business, like crazy stuff. And he took
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the job, which is fine because that's who the NBA
is in bed with, and he is the sanctioned information guy,
right kind of like Schefter is the sanctioned information guy
for the NFL.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
And you know, we go so on and so forth.
Speaker 14 (34:32):
Everybody's got a guy and John Hayman for MLB, and
it's really interesting because Adrian has the whole league except
for the clutch sports people. They've always hated him. He's
always hated them. I mean, I might be speaking out
of school, but this is true as far as I understand.
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Way out in the periphery, and it's been a long
time like that. So and Adrian, if you look at things,
always breaks every story unless it pertains to the Lebron
people and Lebron's camp and Clutch Sports. So with that
being said, uh, this was really crazy because it was
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Sharon versus Adrian. Sham SHARONI Balloonia, and I swear I
love Sham Sharania. But if you ever met him in person, yeah,
he smells like so much drakarna war Ooh. I like
that smell though, but it like that smell you smell
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him like wow, information coming like long before you see him,
like the Sharon or balloon Er.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Yeah, and they have Shams, Yeah, they have.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
Maybe they'll make a movie about their relationship someday because
we're so desperate for stories. But Sharon was Adrian's protege
and Adrian was at Yahoo, and then Adrian left and
the Sharon became the Clutch Sports guy and they battle
and the Sharun Ballooner. His whole uh, his whole angle
was something to the effect of, well, you know, they
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were never serious about Danny Hurley. It was always JJ Reddick,
and you know they talked, Sure, they talked to some
other people, and it's like wait a minute. They offered
him the job. They offered him the job, and he
turned it down. And that is the amazing thing about this.
I think I made this analogy on the show. Did
you guys see Ben hur or any of those old
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movies where they had like those old Roman ships. It's
been a while, and like there's all those guys chained
in the bottom of the ship rowing the whip and
they're like row and the guy hitting the drum and
this and that, And to me, like that's like Lebron
like directing his media roll this way, row JJ Redick,
roll roll, you know, and now and the ship started
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spinning with this hurly thing. And now they're trying to
spin it back and they're pulling hard on those oars
and they're trying to just they're trying to make it
okay to hire JJ Reddick or Brego or whoever. And
the truth is, who wants this job to go sit
there and be nailed by the king like the rest
of us?
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Doesn't that pain to admit that or say that. I mean,
as as good as this organization has been, and I
think what it means.
Speaker 14 (37:21):
The NBA, yeah, well they have poor ownership and they
they look when you don't know where the buck stops.
And you could say this about the Lakers with Kobe too.
People have had the same argument for years, but it's
much worse with Lebron because of the mercenary like nature
of the way he's kind of done business over the years.
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For people that are naysayers, they're very, very aware of
the chronology of all the things Lebron has tried to
pull off, also known as le Judas. But you guys
have heard le Judas, haven't.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
You, for a lot of things led Betrayer of the
Son of Man.
Speaker 14 (38:06):
I mean, it's just kind of sad that it's kind
of come to this, but this is exactly what they've
bred over the years. They've just bred dysfunction, and it's
always bad when you.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Don't know who's making the decisions.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Right.
Speaker 14 (38:25):
You can look at Rob Polenka and say, oh my god,
look at all the terrible things he's done when he
was the GM, And yeah, he's been pretty weak, and
they've made a lot of bad decisions, and those bad
decisions have cost them consistency and continuity and all those
things we talk about that are important when you're building a.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
Team in any sport. But who makes the decisions? Do
we know?
Speaker 14 (38:49):
I mean, is it Lebron, is it Polenka? Is it
some amalgamation of that?
Speaker 8 (38:54):
What does Genie do? Does she do anything?
Speaker 14 (38:57):
What about Kurt Rambus and Linda Rambas and all these
people walking around that have influence. J Moore is in
the building. I mean, there's all these there's all these
question marks like the Riddlers suit, And I think I
think if you're going into if you're Dan Hurley and
you have all this momentum of all the positive things
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in our world that that bring that that success comes with,
then why would you sit there and do that? Regardless
of a brand or or anything like that. It's like
putting on a trash bag and it has a Louis
Vaton logo on it? Why do you want to do it?
Speaker 8 (39:34):
You know what I mean? So I think ultimately it
came down.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
To that p do you think if we want to
get to the bottom of this stuff, like which source
should we trust more? Should we trust Woes or Sham's colonia?
Like which do you think is the better one to
go with? As far as tracking.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
The development of this Lakers head coaching?
Speaker 14 (39:54):
He really wants you to do pet he's got a
real heavy smell of cologne as well.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
I heard he want cleared out a whole first class flag.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Listen, cologne, Like cologne is really disrespected by a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
I'd rather people wear too much cologne than the other way.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Agreed.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
I have allergies and perfume and cologne really set me off.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
But would you would you rather smell that than a
bunch of bo and like stench you feel like, I
don't know, I mean yesterday kind of thing that uh.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
Cologne to me is like it's made with like the
anal sack of cats. Like it's gross the stuff they
put into colone.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Okay, well, all right, but what about like a guy
like Matthew McConaughey. Apparently he doesn't wear anything, no deodorant,
no Brad Pitt.
Speaker 14 (40:45):
There's a lot of a lot of movie stars smell
really bad. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Because they're
like so popular, they think they're above showering. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 8 (40:58):
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Who's the worst smelling celebrity you've been around?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Me?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Any any singer or any of them?
Speaker 14 (41:06):
Brad Pitt smelled really bad from all reports. The guy
Brandon Walsh, Jason Priestley, the guy that was in nine
to two one zero, lived with Brad Pitt for a
while when they were like fledgling actors, and he said
he doesn't remember him showering once. I mean, he's like
that guy a national geographic that's like got like eighty
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years of dirt caked up on this perpetual crotch rot. Yeah,
but you know, who to trust is very interesting question.
I know you just wanted to say your your funny thing.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
What do you mean Sham's colonia?
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Who to trust?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Is very interesting?
Speaker 14 (41:44):
I think whenever it comes to media, the better question
to ask is who benefits? Right, whenever you see a
story and who broke the story you can usually trace
who benefits from the story breaking.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
There and why is it breaking there?
Speaker 14 (41:58):
And usually it has something to do with some relationship
or sticking it to somebody else. And that was an
interesting part of this because the comparison was made by
more than a few, especially here in LA because like
the Chargers have had a terrible reputation for years right
as far as hiring coaches and spending money and Finally,
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they just threw up their hands and threw a gigantic
Brinks truck at Harbaugh's face right like an anvil, and
hired his you know, hired his GM, hired everybody that
Harbaugh could ever want.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
But why did Harbaugh take the Chargers job?
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Deep down?
Speaker 14 (42:40):
Probably because he wanted to stick it to the people
at Michigan, right, same reason he took the job with
Michigan because he wanted to stick it to the people
at the forty nine Ers and he was having that
big fight with the GM guy and all that, and
they got their guy because Harbaugh had a rough situation
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at Michigan and he couldn't trust what was going on,
And maybe that was the thinking that went into this.
I don't think Danny Hurley wants to stick it to
anybody in stores, right, I mean, he's he's happy, and
this might have just been a leverage move to begin with. So,
but it is sad for the Lakers because it's embarrassing.
And then you see all the people that carry water
for Lebron, like it's not hard to trace this stuff.
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You saw the wind Horse headline yesterday. I mean, would
you rather be doused in cologne? Or look like a
giant toad. It's tough.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Hey, some people find that attractive. I got no problem.
I like the BBWs, but.
Speaker 14 (43:41):
The wind Horse headline was something to the effect of, like,
Lakers are embarrassed now, but they could still fix this.
It's like, you know, that's what's more interesting to me, not.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
What are they gonna do with Lebron retires.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Hire him, Yeah, from.
Speaker 14 (44:00):
Good point, Hire him and JJ Reddick to sit there
and give us revisionist history.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
Lebron can tell us.
Speaker 14 (44:06):
He he discovered out cast, he discovered migos. First guy
to start saying, Riz, you guys know what riz is?
You guys don't know WHATZ is. No, you guys don't
know what a rizzler is, LeVar. I'm letting y'all go, man,
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you don't know what a wrestler is. Of course I do.
I'm listening to y'all though a guy.
Speaker 8 (44:31):
With charisma or a girl there you go, that's what
the youth says.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
You can also smoke.
Speaker 14 (44:36):
Him a smoker. I thought that was a grizzy like
a hot dog. Well, yeah, like that's like that Fourth
of July day, you know, where everybody eats a hot dog,
Joey Chestnut controversy, people wear a T shirt that says
it's a bad day to be a glizzy.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yes, by the way, yeah, are you a distraught over
Joey Chestnut no longer being in the Nathan Todd dog
eating contest?
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Pee, I was super surprised at how slow of immediate
day it must have been when a story.
Speaker 14 (45:09):
You know, I mean, ultimately, I'm an American. I enjoy
American activities. I deride un American activities like drone shows
as opposed to fireworks.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
And things like that.
Speaker 14 (45:22):
But like when it comes down to it, and it's
not like I'm the most demure, it's not like I'm
Jeremy Irons having high tea in Middle London. But when
it comes down to it, you turn on the hot
dog eating contest and it's gross, Like I don't want it.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
It's gross, it's disgusting.
Speaker 14 (45:40):
I don't want to watch anybody eat, especially like that,
and the fact that all the bread has to be
dipped in water at like like a spongy bread like
materials sucked down while you're eating these.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
It's it's really.
Speaker 14 (45:53):
Gross to watch everybody eat. But a great American tradition.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
All right, Petros, who you got a right one for you?
In a in an eating contest? Do you have Joey
Chestnut or lard ass from stand Hey?
Speaker 7 (46:08):
Petro's before you answer this? Does this kind of feel
like you know one of those?
Speaker 4 (46:11):
You know?
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Would you rather?
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Or are you in? Or are you out? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:14):
You notice where that comes from?
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Petros? Yeah, now you're now you're hearing where.
Speaker 8 (46:19):
It comes from?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, So who you got, Petros? Lard ass from stand
by Me or Joey Chestnut?
Speaker 8 (46:24):
I'm I'm jerking the wheel? Do you know who wrote
stand by Me?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (46:29):
And Stephen King?
Speaker 7 (46:31):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (46:31):
You ahole son of the Yeah, god damn, yeah.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
God that business. Do you know what it was called?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Not stand by Me? All the body? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:49):
Damn stepped on your neck?
Speaker 5 (46:51):
Is this the movie stand by Me?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:53):
No, No, the one that's written on a balloon? Brady, Yeah,
I tell you guys this story. Yes, police, please educate us.
Speaker 14 (47:07):
We used to have this violinist at the restaurant. Don't
be that way, Brady, don't get that way.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Was it Ben King? He said, Stephen King?
Speaker 8 (47:15):
No, it was Stephen King, Ben E King sayings.
Speaker 14 (47:18):
The song by Me got you Okay, Wow, you should
have kept it quiet.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
You exposed yourself right there.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
Yeah, because I'm looking up, I have no idea. We
don't talk about the sixties and seventies much.
Speaker 14 (47:28):
Petro, Well, you know what, maybe you should dive in
because you're listening.
Speaker 8 (47:32):
We'll get you're listening for So ben Her is a
great story.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
It is.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
I'm not saying it's not. Don't get many of those
references to tell you my story.
Speaker 14 (47:47):
Yes, we used to have this violinist at my dad's
restaurant named Giovanni. And of course, you know, like most violinists,
he was high strung and he hated this one Greek
bus boy, a high school kid from South Torrence High
School named Chris Captain, which was cut down from Capitl
Tanaki's and his father was like in charge of the
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choir at the church, so that's why he had a
job at the restaurant. And for some reason Giovanni hated him.
And uh, you know, this is before cell phones and
all that. The restaurant had phones, and Giovanni was on
the restaurant phone and he was very upset. There was
something going on, and he hung up the phone. He said,
there's been an accident. You know, my wife and son
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were in an accident. And Captain goes a car accident
and Giovanni turned to him.
Speaker 8 (48:37):
And said, no, balloon accident and he started choking him.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Was this like a hot air balloon went down? Well, no,
it was a car accident.
Speaker 8 (48:50):
It was a balloon. Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Anyway, Well listen, pe we appreciate it. No, listen, I'm no.
I'm tired of everybody.
Speaker 6 (48:59):
Oh, come on, I went to be tired of me
because I know you say one word.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
That makes one word to you. This entire second makes
self consciousness.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Joan is geek out over you. I have not said one,
so you can't be.
Speaker 7 (49:15):
Hey, Petros, how do you feel about LeVar saying he
would whoop the crap out of Rockapella?
Speaker 5 (49:19):
The group that's sang Carmen san Diego.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
I mean I would Wait a minute, I mean I would.
Speaker 8 (49:26):
What do we have to say from San Diego?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Nothing?
Speaker 7 (49:29):
We actually played it as the theme of where is
Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (49:34):
You got that big have something against the way they
sounded singing the song, Peach, he watched it here.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
At once.
Speaker 14 (49:44):
I went to a concert last night. I was out
till midnight and for me, that's like the equivalent of
like not leaving a whorehouse for three months.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
Like that was.
Speaker 14 (49:55):
It was a real adventure last night. I used to
go out a lot in anyway, it's a little more odom,
is what that is. Yeah, the face down dead and
Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar arrings Brady Win and Jonas Knox on Box
four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
We've got Game three in the NBA Finals coming up
later on tonight, and we've got ourselves a little bit
of drama, a little bit of drama in the NBA Finals.
The Celtics are up two games to none, but there
is concern Christops Porzingis suffered a rare injury in Game two.
You see, if I can get this right, described as
(00:35):
a torn medial retinaculum, allowing dislocation of the posterior to
be alis tendon in his left leg.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Did I do it?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I think I got it. What do you think about that, Brady?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
That's pretty solid.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yeah, put that in your splint and smoke it. That's
what I'm talking about.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Side of the knee to the back of the knee
to almost sound like the front of the knee. I mean,
it just sounds like his whole knee is just on on.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
The blink, well his ankle like it's it's low or
his ankle, yeah, whatever, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
The leg's a leg sounds it sound like his knee.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
I'm just reading medial I didn't even know your ankle
had all that going on.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
I just your ankle, well.
Speaker 7 (01:23):
Yeah, you got like a tibiaphibia fibula, right or something
like that.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
So did not know that.
Speaker 8 (01:28):
I thought that.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
I thought, is your ship in your ankle?
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, it's when you have a high ankle sprain.
Speaker 7 (01:36):
You get those two like those two bones you know that,
go dotter me me, Yeah, yeah, it's like all the
stuff around that.
Speaker 8 (01:42):
Yeah yeah, I mean, like all the stuff around those areas.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, I guess I just never all right, Well,
do you want to hear Joe Missoula, the head coach
of the Celtics, Yeah, afterwards after the game the other night,
which I think was like two three months ago, he
said that, look he's good, not concerned at all. Then
obviously they did some imaging, came back whatever we just
(02:08):
described happened, and so Joe Missoula spoke yesterday to the
media about his concern.
Speaker 9 (02:14):
He's doing anything and everything he can to be ready
for the game tomorrow. It's a serious injury and at
the end of the day, our team and the medical
team is not going to put him in any bad situations.
We've taken a decision to play out of his hands
because the importance of him, and so he's going to
do everything he can to play, and then we're going
to leave it up to our medical team.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now I've seen conflicting reports as to whether or not
he's going to play the rest of the series. Some
people have said, well, it's a pain management thing, you
could brace it up. A friend of the program, doctor
David Chow, said, not happening. He's going to need surgery
at some point. What is your guys' best guess as
to whether or not he's available for the.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Rest of the season. What would you say? Yeah, I mean,
this is it? Yeah, yeah, this is it.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
You do think he's playing of our No, he's done.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
I think they rest him tonight and they dust him
off for emergency purposes.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
His numbers, his numbers were if you were looking at
his numbers, his numbers were low. Last game, his his
minutes were low, his numbers were low. So it was
already taking place in the last game. He's not going
to play, and and and listen, I could say they
don't need him, but they do.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
They do need him. So I've always been a big fan.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Well, here's here's the thing, right, even if he's not
getting points Fellas, it's his presence in the paint. Right,
What had what has been the biggest storyline so far
outside of the domination of the Celtics, what's been the
other storyline?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Well, it's Kyrie Irving, right.
Speaker 6 (03:51):
And his his inability to really really get going, right,
That's that's what That's what really has stood out and
has been discussed like is it the fact that he
used to be a Celtic and he can't get it
out of his head and this that, and no, it's
the paint. It's the paint.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Defense.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
Kyrie Irving has been limited in his ability to be
able to drive and penetrate to the cup. And what
has been Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving's way of getting
the offense going has been being able to penetrate, get
Lively going, get Gaffer going and opens it up for
PJ from the outside and the inside. And they have
(04:30):
not been able to get Kyrie on that playing field,
so to speak, this series, and partially due in fact,
to the presence of Porzingis in the paint. You remove
Perzingis and now it's al Horford again. Is there the
possibility that the conversation can shift to what it was
(04:51):
heading into this series? Can they defend the paint with
just Al Horford? His numbers have been cut in half
since Porzingis came back. Porzingis goes out. Now Horford's numbers
are going to have to go back up. He hasn't
shot much, hasn't been much of a factor in the series.
But does he become a factor in the series. This
series is not over, it goes back again. We had
(05:15):
the conversation, if you can draw the series to two
and two and defend your home.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Court, then now it becomes a series.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I know people are putting dirt on the Mavericks and
all their they don't have enough yet, I mean, they
don't have enough. They it's an uphill battle, and all
of those sentiments are accurate. But I think this is
a tremendous loss if Perzingis is not and listen, you
gotta presume even if he is able to play. Missoula said,
it is a serious injury. When the coach says it's
(05:46):
a serious injury, that means it's really bad. It's bad,
Like he doesn't you don't sit there and say that
out loud in this game three, one of the most
critical games of the series right now, and say it
that way. You just don't do it, so for him
to acknowledge it that way in them to be where
they're at right now. This could have a tremendous effect
(06:08):
and impact on Kyrie Irvin getting himself going in this series.
And the worst thing that could happen is you go
from neutralizing Doncic by making him play defense. Everybody thinks
he's tired. Okay, Well, if Kyrie Irving gets going and
he's able to start penetrating, and now Horford is not
(06:29):
able to be what he needs to be, which he
has not been in series past, then now you better
see Derek Lively. He better come to the show. Daniel Gofford,
he better come to the show.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
PJ.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
Washington has played his ass off the entire playoffs. He's
made a name for himself if you didn't already know
who he is, so and then Luca's got to be Luca.
This could actually turn this series into a watchable and
tolerable series.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
In my estimation, yeah, it's over us. It's uh yeah,
I mean it's not. It's not ideal that was.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
That was a great explanation, though it was no Well,
I mean, it's not ideal, but I think if Dallas
is gonna get a game, this would be the one.
But I look at the series and I go, man,
the Celtics didn't play great last game. Like it's not
like they shot the ball well, like the idea that
they're gonna shoot the three as poorly as they did
last game, and yet they still won by the margin
(07:28):
they won by with Porzingis dinged up and everything they
came along with it. I just think Drew Holliday has
been too much. I think Derek White's been too much.
I think they're gonna there's gonna be They're gonna figure
this out some way, somehow without Porzingis. Now, this is
just the fourth time in the last ninety nine games
that the Celtics are an underdog. So they've been pretty
(07:49):
uh you know, favored for majority of the year and
majority of the past year plus. I think, look, if
you like Dallas in this game, then then that's probably
a smart player.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
But I just I still don't like it. Probably not.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It just feels like a bad matchup.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
And also it's still a bad match Boston's better on
the road, and and they're better on the road. They
haven't lost on the road all postseason. So I just
I don't know, man. I mean, I know that there's
a lot of people trying to find some some.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Hope, you know.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
I mean Kyrie, you know, he's clearly focused on on
just the NBA Finals check your text.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
Yeah, not anything else out.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
That, No, definitely not no. But he's learned.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I mean, we we are past that time, and uh,
it's the whole.
Speaker 7 (08:37):
He feels like he's worldly and very culture and knowledgeable
forget about what's in front of right now.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Just you know, I mean, like I don't get it, man,
I really don't. But okay, all right, So so there
it is. That is your Dallas, your your game.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Three looks, and huh, at some point it just had
to happen. You had to do something. I mean, hey, listen,
and he's giving you in that moment. He's just he's
basically he's letting you know, he's you know, this is
the game, this is the game for him.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
He's gonna he's going to get himself back on track.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
I don't know that that that post has anything to
do with it. But if there's any hope or opportunity
for one of the most gifted basketball players in our game,
in our NBA game that we've ever seen, it's it's tonight.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's tonight.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Because again, I just don't think with all the things
that you said offensively, you're one hundred percent correct. This
Celtics team is just they're far too loaded to to
be crippled on the offensive side of the court by
not having prizingis it's the defensive side that's going to
(10:00):
to play a part in this.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah, Press, it's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (10:03):
It's there's if they can if they can still manage
to keep Kyrie and check or keep him confused on
on how to get going and gain some confidence, it'll
be it'll be the same result. It'll be a three
to zero series heading into a sweet game, a close
out game in Dallas. But I just I get the
(10:25):
feeling they're coming home, that's one thing. So they're going
to be in a friendly environment. And we can say
that Boston plays well on the on the road and
having lost that's that's what the the you know, record says.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
That's great. But if you're.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
Going to have one game where Luca and Kyrie snap
out and have one of them type of games. It's
it's this one and so now again it comes back
to having a limited amount of firepower on the defensive
side and knowing that that ou Rford struggles when he's
(11:02):
in that sole role of being a defender in the paint.
They I mean, this is this is a Jason Kidd,
this is a Jason Kid game. It's gotta be structured
in a way where they take advantage of what they've
done all all playoffs long, which is you open it
up by being able to shoot, and you drive it,
(11:23):
and you give Lively and Gafford, those guys in Washington,
you give them easy buckets at the realm. That's what
they've done. Now they killed the Timberwolves with that.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Luca's also got the the Nectar from the Gods gone.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
I'm about to say, don't we ain't even got to
talk about him because they they you know, when they
hit him with that, it's like nothing ever happened. Like
I saw in the notes that they're going to give
it to them before the game. Yet, name me, name
me a guy that doesn't get the Nectar of the
Gods before a game.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Yeah, name me name me a couple. Shouldn't you just
do it even if you don't need it.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean some guys do it even if you don't
need it.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, why not?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I mean, I don't care, you know, just say just
in case, you know, if something happens, like.
Speaker 7 (12:10):
You rolling out and I don't appreciate Vardo giving a
passionate speech about the MAVs and and this game and
just keeping it close, Like I feel like, do you
think they're gonna win tonight?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
This is their best chance?
Speaker 6 (12:24):
This tonight is their best chance night tonight, not not yesterday,
not tomorrow, Tonight, this is their best opportunity to make
this a series.
Speaker 7 (12:39):
I mean, to one one first, because it just feels
like it's a it's a mismatch.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
It's still a mits match. I'm not I'm acknowledging it's
a mismatch. I'm acknowledging that. But this is their best chance,
Prizinga's out, it's their best chance. Yes, it's their best chance.
With everything that's going on, this is going to have
to be a coaching game. This is a strategy game,
(13:07):
and you got it. You have got to tell Kyrie
face to face, man, the man. You've got to be
Kyrie irving in order for this team to have a
shot out winning.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
No, he's focused.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
You know, Luca can't do it on his own. It's
shown he can't do it on his own. And he's focused. Listen,
it's got you or something else.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
I'm just saying, like he's you know, clearly, like everything's
about basketball. It's just we're just focusing on basketball with
a Kyrie. But who knows, I'd be listened. We'll get
to see how it plays out tonight. So Game three
coming up later on tonight. As a stands right now,
Curtis draftings the Dallas Mavericks are a two and a
half point favorite, two and a half point favorite. Boston
(13:52):
still a minus eight hundred to win the series.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Though, so and the Lakers still don't have a head coach.
They don't, No, they don't.
Speaker 6 (14:01):
It is uh to Brady Quinn, Let's take it pictures
with Brett Michaels.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Yes true?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
What is that about? Where did that come from?
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Speaker 5 (15:28):
Yes, would.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Cisco, I'm a day.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
I mean he was very passionate about it, very passionate.
Let me babe, please, and as we found it.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
And as we found out later on, as we found
out later on, not a method actor, so you know,
saying hell.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
In his little movie. Uh, you know, debut the acting.
Speaker 7 (16:05):
Oh yeah, if there's anything out there where let it
all hang out.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Jonas will find it.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Hey, you know, you got to tell the whole truth
and nothing about the truth. It is so help me God,
but can we please, can we please discuss the fact
that there's been more pictures that have come out on
John Rahm, who is not participating in the US Open. Uh,
this infection he's got between on his left foot radiaded
(16:35):
and the good, the bad, the ugly. He's got an
infection between his fourth and fifth toe on his left foot,
and he's wearing like a little splint to keep him
separated or something. And like, listen, the tan line is
from outer space, but that's what you'd call a gnarly
tan line. Yeah, I just I'm trying to figure out,
(16:57):
because Lee and I were talking during the break, is
it like ath each foot gone wrong?
Speaker 6 (17:01):
It might be like that joint might be cracked because
because Q's right like his toes, I mean pause, his
toes aren't ugly. He don't have it, don't look like
he got ugly toes. So it's gotta be behind that splint.
If you if he removed that splint and showed you
the webbing of his toe, I bet you that's where
(17:23):
it is. That bad boy's probably cracked and it's probably sore.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Probably what it is, how's that happen? Fungus?
Speaker 4 (17:32):
When you have fungus among us?
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Things happen even doesn't look like his fungus anywhere else?
Like why would you clean all the rest of your
toes in combination of toes but you'd leave those two out.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
It just seems I'm no doctor or medical person. I
just I just know he that's probably what it is.
He's probably got a crack in between there, like like
a what are they called a brass or whatever he's
probably got you know, it's.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
There, So ToeJam gone bad.
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Basically, I don't know how it would just happen between
one set of toes, you know, I don't. I don't know,
but that's what it looks like.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I don't know any other guesses as to how this
ToeJam went bad on John Ram's fourth and fifth toe
on his left foot.
Speaker 12 (18:26):
Uh no, I mean it looks like he takes okay
care of himself. But I did read a very troubling
survey not too long ago. A lot of people don't
wash the bottom halves of themselves. They assume the they
assume the body wash goes just just tricking down.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
Still, where are you getting that information?
Speaker 12 (18:53):
I forget it was a while ago.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
But on the Google.
Speaker 6 (18:59):
Lead, the last lead to lap shower information, why would
talk about how many surveyors won?
Speaker 8 (19:07):
It was a.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Troubling It was a troubling amount. I mean, if you're
already in there, why wouldn't you clean You're already in there.
What's the point?
Speaker 4 (19:14):
But why would it only be one?
Speaker 8 (19:16):
All right?
Speaker 6 (19:16):
So I had a situation happened with a family member
one time, and they had that same type of splint
on on their toe. Is there the possibility that it's
not a toe infection? But it may have been a
they you know, maybe had a night, you know, had
(19:38):
a couple elbow bending evenings or a evening, hit their toe,
their pinky toe off of the side of a wall
or a cabinet or some type of object that dislocated
their pinky toe, and then you have to put it
back in place, and you gotta let it heal.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
So you put a.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Splint on it, and that's the splint because you can't
you can't do anything else with it if you were
to dislocate it or do something to that effect. I mean,
is there a possibility that that could be what it is?
I just don't see how you have a toe infection
and it's only in one place. Yeah, just generally that's
like like you say, athletes foot. You mentioned athletes foot.
(20:22):
That's fungus spreads, so it wouldn't it wouldn't look so
like if it's going to hit one piece of webbing,
it's going to spread.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
We're still talking about his foot infection.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, wow, I mean, do you I think so? I
mean and that what jonas well?
Speaker 2 (20:41):
No, listen, because we're trying to get to the bottom
of this. This is a major tournament and he's like
bottom like it's it's too bad and it's a it's
a shame that it's happened. I just think based on
the Tan line, it doesn't look like that guy has
ever not worn shoes, so an accident barefoot doesn't seem plausible.
Like he seems like he's worn shoe use for about
(21:01):
eleven years straight and never taking them off.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
Based on the.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Tand line, yeah, I mean it's it's something. So there's
your uh, your coverage of the the PGA here on
this show on two pros and a cup of Joe,
by the way, second most interesting golf story this year,
next to Scotti Scheffler's arrest.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Yeah, I think so this we've really done.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
It here show, and that confirms why I don't like
golf all like that. If those are your two biggest stories.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
All right, Well somebody you might like is Sean Payton.
He's the brand new head coach of the of the
Denver Broncos, and he also talked about body parts because
he was asked about whether or not he has a
chip on his shoulder heading into this season. Let's take
a listen.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
I have two middle fingers.
Speaker 13 (21:54):
I've gotten better with the age, not using them, I think, and.
Speaker 8 (21:59):
I would say this is chain for me.
Speaker 13 (22:01):
It's more inward focused relative to our own team and
what we're doing relative to as you get older in
this you don't waste the calories on certain things that
I might have. You know back in six seven eight,
you know, I don't play a lot of video games,
but you got X amount of battery life and energy
(22:22):
and you try to use it where you think it's
best going to help the team. And so you learn
over time to not spend as much on the things
you can't control. Or yeah, certainly lists or I mean
if that concerned me, we wouldn't have drafted bo Nicks,
you know where we selected them.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So sounds like somebody who's got a ring and he's like, yeah,
whatever happens is cool.
Speaker 7 (22:48):
Is this the same coach you're through? Nathaniel Hacket under
the bus.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Last year, that's correct, all the way under and.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Then after the season to work out they benched Russell
Wilson and he though he's statistically had a decent year,
he throw him under the bus because he was the issue.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Right Yeah, basically, okay, Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
Trying to get all this stuff straight before we talk
about the subject because you know now he's drafted bo Knicks,
yet they bring in Zach Wilson, and apparently Zach Wilson,
I'm sure at Stidham and bo Nicks.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
Are now all competing for the job. Okay, I just.
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I wonder depending on how the season goes for Denver,
Look if they win their competitive pat him on the back,
give them all the high fives, top gun at whatever
you want. Obviously that would be a surprise. Given the
division they play. I think they look to be, if
not the worst, somewhere down there with Las Vegas. No
(23:42):
disrespect to AP, we love AP, but I would say
that Vegas has a better roster. Vegas to me is
still a step ahead of even Denver. And so it's
Kansas City, it's the Chargers, it's Vegas, then it's probably
Denver at least how you're looking at things.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
So if he can make them into a competitive.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Football that you know, makes the playoffs or even has
a winning record, that's a huge win. I think for
the standpoint that they're in a cap situation where they've
got to take on a bunch of money for Russell Wilson,
which was a poor arranged marriage but something that Sean
Payton signed up for. And now Sean Payton at least
(24:20):
has this quarterback he's drafted, he's got to be accountable for,
and I guess a roster that he's now had control
over for a couple of years. So the truth is
this is all on him. We talked about earlier not
being a make or break year for DeShawn Wats because
of his contract situation. To me, in my mind, this
is a make or break year for Sean Payton, and
(24:41):
I understand he could have a rookie quarterback potentially starting
seventeen games, but this is all his doing, from how
he got there to what's transpired since then to this moment. Now,
this is all his doing, and maybe he will be
raising the middle fingers at the end of the year
with a winning record or making the playoffs, but they've
(25:03):
got an uphill battle, and let's not be mistaken about it.
You know, if I was saying I would very early
on find whether it's Nicks or whoever else, the person
that's going to be leading my offense, because every single
one of those reps is going to be incredibly invaluable
to prepare them for a conference that's tough as the
defending two times Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Their win totals five and a half, think about that, like,
if they go six and eleven, they've exceeded expectations basically
this upcoming year. So yeah, not ideal as two middle fingers,
Like I'm looking around the NFL, like what other teams
(25:44):
are in the vicinity of five and a half wins
for their over under You've got you're keeping company with
Carolina and yeah, I think New England and that's it.
Carolina New England are the only other teams kind of
kind of float around that area. So it doesn't seem
like it's going to go great for the Denver Broncos
(26:04):
this year. Plus fifteen hundred to win the division, so big,
big payout if you're a believer in Sean Payton and company.
I just I think that also had the Charger job
and open, he would have taken that over this one.
And I think I wonder if just part of him
is like, well, listen, if it works, it works. If not,
you know, I'll go back and do TV. Like it
(26:25):
just is not. It's not going to be that big
of a deal to him. He's already got his ring,
and I do, I do appreciate the fact that, you know,
he was one of the more outspoken when it came
to criticizing Roger Goodell when he wore the Roger Goodell
clown shirt after the botched call in the NFC Title
Game years ago. So you know, he's got a he's
got a hell of a reputation. That's Sean Payton. So
(26:48):
there's your coverage of the Denver Broncos here. As we
transition smoothly from John Rahm's foot infection to the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
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Speaker 2 (27:05):
Right now, it's the return of the old pe Petros Papadakis,
the co host of the Petros and Money Show, which
you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to seven
e LA Sports. Also a Fox College football analyst, Pee
What's happening?
Speaker 14 (27:17):
Good morning, Hello, Hello, good morning to you, good morning, hello.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Back, good morning.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Petros. Your reaction to the fiasco that was the hunt
for Dan Hurley by the Los Angeles Lakers.
Speaker 8 (27:33):
Oh wow.
Speaker 14 (27:36):
You know, I knew we were going to talk about this,
but I didn't know how to quite approach it. I mean,
first of all, did it catch you off guard?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, nobody expected it.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Can I put it this way, Petros, My thought on
it was, it's the you know, it's one of the
most storied franchises in sports, and he's won back to
back national championships.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
The college sports world seems.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
A bit chaotic to the point where I mean, if
there was ever a time where you want to, you know,
jump ship to make an excuse the jump ship, that
would be it. And it just it feels like I'm
not saying he won't get the opportunity to get in
the future, but it's the Lakers, and so I at
least thought he would contemplate it longer than the twenty
four hours where he flies out, he interviews, flies back,
(28:36):
and it's done.
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Like it's that quick of a decision.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Maybe there was more going on behind the scenes for
a longer period of time, but that was what was
surprising to me.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
Now, you, LaVar, you're an East Coast guy, right.
Speaker 14 (28:48):
You were born and raised on the East Coast, Yes, sir, Yeah,
and I'm I'm not, you know, I have no East
Coast roots really or flavor or anything like that. People
think that I'm from the East Coast. They used to
a lot when I was younger, But I'm not. And
(29:09):
it's funny because we were talking about it when the
news broke, and my radio partner was really excited and
they're finally sticking it to Lebron and telling them to
pound sand and all this.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Stuff's gonna happen.
Speaker 14 (29:22):
And I saw a picture of his wife, Dan Hurley's wife,
and she's a Greek American whose last name is like
Sadai's or something like that. I got to check again
and she has the map of Thessalo Nikiya on her face,
like she looks like a real Greek woman, And I
(29:45):
was like, there's no way she's coming to live in
Manhattan Beach.
Speaker 8 (29:48):
There is.
Speaker 14 (29:50):
No freaking way, Like you can look like that and
be Greek and be born out here and you're just stuck.
And you go to my church, the Saint Atherine's Church
in Redondo if you're a South Bay type. But I
just I saw her face, and I know the level
of Greek food and the East Coast stuff that people
expect that are from the East Coast and you're not
(30:12):
gonna get it here. So the wife being so Greek
and East coast e was kind of an angle. And also,
I mean, I don't care if it was if they
low balled him or they didn't low ball him, or
it's an iconic franchise or what. Here's a guy, Dan
Hurley who's got a pretty healthy ego, right seems that way,
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and he's got his own way of doing things. A
lot of these fiery college guys who are coaching guys
to try to get to the NBA are not as
successful when they're in the NBA because they're super fiery
and the NBA guys they just don't listen in that
kind of way.
Speaker 8 (30:53):
You just don't coach them in that way. It hasn't worked.
Speaker 14 (30:56):
Out for a lot of guys over the years. Rick Patino,
John Calipari. I mean, the list goes on and on
of fiery college coaches who have had an adverse kind
of effect at the next level. But to me, the
elephant in the room is Lebron James, Like, who wants
to go? Coaches don't live in a vacuum. Coaches support
(31:21):
each other. Actually, a lot more than a lot of
professions do. And I'll tell you why, because they're always
getting fired, and they're always watching each other get fired.
Speaker 8 (31:31):
And of course they.
Speaker 14 (31:32):
Have guaranteed money and this and that and their contracts
and all the things that made it incongruous about the
transfer portal and stuff like that over the years, But
coaches have watched Lebron James undermine everybody there for a
decade and on different teams, the eye rolling, the bumping
of Eric Spolstra, trying to get Spolster fired, and pat
(31:56):
Riley wouldn't do it. All these stories from over the years,
and then we're supposed to sit there and act like
he's not involved at all in the process. And why
would you want to go deal with that? If you're
going to be in the NBA and you have all
this scrutiny, you're the best coach in college and everybody
loves you. Suddenly you're going to become a terrible coach again.
And Lebron's gonna take the whiteboard from your hands and
(32:19):
start drawing up place like he did with Darvin Ham.
Speaker 8 (32:22):
That's not cool.
Speaker 14 (32:23):
I wouldn't want to go deal with that for any
amount of money, And move my angry wife to the
West coast.
Speaker 8 (32:29):
So I.
Speaker 14 (32:32):
Didn't see it as much of a possibility when people
were talking about it. And yeah, there is that element
of it. It's the Lakers. They're going to throw money
at it and all this. We've talked to every expert,
from Steve Lapis on the East Coast to people embedded
with the Lakers, to every NBA insider you can think
of in the last few days, and the general consensus
(32:53):
is that a lot of them saw behind the curtain
and the way things are being run, which is what
I've told you for years about the Lakers. I mean,
just think about the way Magic joined them and then
left and all of this dysfunction since doctor Buss has died.
Speaker 8 (33:08):
Unfortunately, I didn't I mean I just didn't.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
I didn't think he liked to seeing how the sausage
was being made out here. So all of that said,
where do they go from here? Which is the way
that's clear?
Speaker 5 (33:22):
What is the next steps there? I mean, do they
go back to JJ Reddick? I mean, does JJ.
Speaker 7 (33:27):
Redick won it after? I guess knowing that Dan Hurley
was apparently the number one option.
Speaker 14 (33:33):
Well that was what the like the funniest thing about
this is the information war, right like, and it's between
two guys. It's Adrian war Janowski, who we used to
put on the show literally twenty years ago.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
I was gonna ask you what do you make of
his his change since you guys used to add him
have him on p.
Speaker 14 (33:53):
Well, I mean, he sold his soul to the devil,
but the price wasn't cheap and he knows that God
bless him. I mean he came on our show once
and said that everything about ESPN discussed him, everything the
way they do business, like crazy stuff. And he took
(34:14):
the job, which is fine because that's who the NBA
is in bed with, and he is the sanctioned information guy,
right kind of like Schefter is the sanctioned information guy
for the NFL.
Speaker 8 (34:29):
And you know, we go so on and so forth.
Speaker 14 (34:32):
Everybody's got a guy and John Hayman for MLB, and
it's really interesting because Adrian has the whole league except
for the clutch sports people. They've always hated him. He's
always hated them. I mean, I might be speaking out
of school, but this is true as far as I understand.
(34:55):
Way out in the periphery, and it's been a long
time like that. So and Adrian, if you look at things,
always breaks every story unless it pertains to the Lebron
people and Lebron's camp and Clutch Sports. So with that
being said, uh, this was really crazy because it was
(35:16):
Sharon versus Adrian. Sham SHARONI Balloonia, and I swear I
love Sham Sharania. But if you ever met him in person, yeah,
he smells like so much drakarna war Ooh. I like
that smell though, but it like that smell you smell
(35:37):
him like wow, information coming like long before you see him,
like the Sharon or balloon Er.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Yeah, and they have Shams, Yeah, they have.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
Maybe they'll make a movie about their relationship someday because
we're so desperate for stories. But Sharon was Adrian's protege
and Adrian was at Yahoo, and then Adrian left and
the Sharon became the Clutch Sports guy and they battle
and the Sharun Ballooner. His whole uh, his whole angle
was something to the effect of, well, you know, they
(36:09):
were never serious about Danny Hurley. It was always JJ Reddick,
and you know they talked, Sure, they talked to some
other people, and it's like wait a minute. They offered
him the job. They offered him the job, and he
turned it down. And that is the amazing thing about this.
I think I made this analogy on the show. Did
you guys see Ben hur or any of those old
(36:30):
movies where they had like those old Roman ships. It's
been a while, and like there's all those guys chained
in the bottom of the ship rowing the whip and
they're like row and the guy hitting the drum and
this and that, And to me, like that's like Lebron
like directing his media roll this way, row JJ Redick,
roll roll, you know, and now and the ship started
(36:53):
spinning with this hurly thing. And now they're trying to
spin it back and they're pulling hard on those oars
and they're trying to just they're trying to make it
okay to hire JJ Reddick or Brego or whoever. And
the truth is, who wants this job to go sit
there and be nailed by the king like the rest
of us?
Speaker 7 (37:14):
Doesn't that pain to admit that or say that. I mean,
as as good as this organization has been, and I
think what it means.
Speaker 14 (37:21):
The NBA, yeah, well they have poor ownership and they
they look when you don't know where the buck stops.
And you could say this about the Lakers with Kobe too.
People have had the same argument for years, but it's
much worse with Lebron because of the mercenary like nature
of the way he's kind of done business over the years.
(37:44):
For people that are naysayers, they're very, very aware of
the chronology of all the things Lebron has tried to
pull off, also known as le Judas. But you guys
have heard le Judas, haven't.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
You, for a lot of things led Betrayer of the
Son of Man.
Speaker 14 (38:06):
I mean, it's just kind of sad that it's kind
of come to this, but this is exactly what they've
bred over the years. They've just bred dysfunction, and it's
always bad when you.
Speaker 8 (38:21):
Don't know who's making the decisions.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Right.
Speaker 14 (38:25):
You can look at Rob Polenka and say, oh my god,
look at all the terrible things he's done when he
was the GM, And yeah, he's been pretty weak, and
they've made a lot of bad decisions, and those bad
decisions have cost them consistency and continuity and all those
things we talk about that are important when you're building a.
Speaker 8 (38:42):
Team in any sport. But who makes the decisions? Do
we know?
Speaker 14 (38:49):
I mean, is it Lebron, is it Polenka? Is it
some amalgamation of that?
Speaker 8 (38:54):
What does Genie do? Does she do anything?
Speaker 14 (38:57):
What about Kurt Rambus and Linda Rambas and all these
people walking around that have influence. J Moore is in
the building. I mean, there's all these there's all these
question marks like the Riddlers suit, And I think I
think if you're going into if you're Dan Hurley and
you have all this momentum of all the positive things
(39:18):
in our world that that bring that that success comes with,
then why would you sit there and do that? Regardless
of a brand or or anything like that. It's like
putting on a trash bag and it has a Louis
Vaton logo on it? Why do you want to do it?
Speaker 8 (39:34):
You know what I mean? So I think ultimately it
came down.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
To that p do you think if we want to
get to the bottom of this stuff, like which source
should we trust more? Should we trust Woes or Sham's colonia?
Like which do you think is the better one to
go with? As far as tracking.
Speaker 3 (39:50):
The development of this Lakers head coaching?
Speaker 14 (39:54):
He really wants you to do pet he's got a
real heavy smell of cologne as well.
Speaker 8 (39:59):
I heard he want cleared out a whole first class flag.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Listen, cologne, Like cologne is really disrespected by a lot
of people.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
I think it's tremendous.
Speaker 7 (40:08):
I'd rather people wear too much cologne than the other way.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Agreed.
Speaker 14 (40:12):
I have allergies and perfume and cologne really set me off.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
But would you would you rather smell that than a
bunch of bo and like stench you feel like, I
don't know, I mean yesterday kind of thing that uh.
Speaker 14 (40:30):
Cologne to me is like it's made with like the
anal sack of cats. Like it's gross the stuff they
put into colone.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Okay, well, all right, but what about like a guy
like Matthew McConaughey. Apparently he doesn't wear anything, no deodorant,
no Brad Pitt.
Speaker 14 (40:45):
There's a lot of a lot of movie stars smell
really bad. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. Because they're
like so popular, they think they're above showering. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 8 (40:58):
I'm not joking.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Who's the worst smelling celebrity you've been around?
Speaker 1 (41:01):
Me?
Speaker 8 (41:03):
Any any singer or any of them?
Speaker 14 (41:06):
Brad Pitt smelled really bad from all reports. The guy
Brandon Walsh, Jason Priestley, the guy that was in nine
to two one zero, lived with Brad Pitt for a
while when they were like fledgling actors, and he said
he doesn't remember him showering once. I mean, he's like
that guy a national geographic that's like got like eighty
(41:28):
years of dirt caked up on this perpetual crotch rot. Yeah,
but you know, who to trust is very interesting question.
I know you just wanted to say your your funny thing.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
What do you mean Sham's colonia?
Speaker 8 (41:42):
Who to trust?
Speaker 5 (41:43):
Is very interesting?
Speaker 14 (41:44):
I think whenever it comes to media, the better question
to ask is who benefits? Right, whenever you see a
story and who broke the story you can usually trace
who benefits from the story breaking.
Speaker 8 (41:56):
There and why is it breaking there?
Speaker 14 (41:58):
And usually it has something to do with some relationship
or sticking it to somebody else. And that was an
interesting part of this because the comparison was made by
more than a few, especially here in LA because like
the Chargers have had a terrible reputation for years right
as far as hiring coaches and spending money and Finally,
(42:20):
they just threw up their hands and threw a gigantic
Brinks truck at Harbaugh's face right like an anvil, and
hired his you know, hired his GM, hired everybody that
Harbaugh could ever want.
Speaker 8 (42:36):
But why did Harbaugh take the Chargers job?
Speaker 5 (42:38):
Deep down?
Speaker 14 (42:40):
Probably because he wanted to stick it to the people
at Michigan, right, same reason he took the job with
Michigan because he wanted to stick it to the people
at the forty nine Ers and he was having that
big fight with the GM guy and all that, and
they got their guy because Harbaugh had a rough situation
(43:01):
at Michigan and he couldn't trust what was going on,
And maybe that was the thinking that went into this.
I don't think Danny Hurley wants to stick it to
anybody in stores, right, I mean, he's he's happy, and
this might have just been a leverage move to begin with. So,
but it is sad for the Lakers because it's embarrassing.
And then you see all the people that carry water
for Lebron, like it's not hard to trace this stuff.
(43:24):
You saw the wind Horse headline yesterday. I mean, would
you rather be doused in cologne? Or look like a
giant toad. It's tough.
Speaker 8 (43:35):
Hey, some people find that attractive. I got no problem.
I like the BBWs, but.
Speaker 14 (43:41):
The wind Horse headline was something to the effect of, like,
Lakers are embarrassed now, but they could still fix this.
It's like, you know, that's what's more interesting to me, not.
Speaker 5 (43:56):
What are they gonna do with Lebron retires.
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Hire him, Yeah, from.
Speaker 14 (44:00):
Good point, Hire him and JJ Reddick to sit there
and give us revisionist history.
Speaker 8 (44:05):
Lebron can tell us.
Speaker 14 (44:06):
He he discovered out cast, he discovered migos. First guy
to start saying, Riz, you guys know what riz is?
You guys don't know WHATZ is. No, you guys don't
know what a rizzler is, LeVar. I'm letting y'all go, man,
(44:26):
you don't know what a wrestler is. Of course I do.
I'm listening to y'all though a guy.
Speaker 8 (44:31):
With charisma or a girl there you go, that's what
the youth says.
Speaker 4 (44:35):
You can also smoke.
Speaker 14 (44:36):
Him a smoker. I thought that was a grizzy like
a hot dog. Well, yeah, like that's like that Fourth
of July day, you know, where everybody eats a hot dog,
Joey Chestnut controversy, people wear a T shirt that says
it's a bad day to be a glizzy.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yes, by the way, yeah, are you a distraught over
Joey Chestnut no longer being in the Nathan Todd dog
eating contest?
Speaker 8 (45:02):
Pee, I was super surprised at how slow of immediate
day it must have been when a story.
Speaker 14 (45:09):
You know, I mean, ultimately, I'm an American. I enjoy
American activities. I deride un American activities like drone shows
as opposed to fireworks.
Speaker 8 (45:21):
And things like that.
Speaker 14 (45:22):
But like when it comes down to it, and it's
not like I'm the most demure, it's not like I'm
Jeremy Irons having high tea in Middle London. But when
it comes down to it, you turn on the hot
dog eating contest and it's gross, Like I don't want it.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
It's gross, it's disgusting.
Speaker 14 (45:40):
I don't want to watch anybody eat, especially like that,
and the fact that all the bread has to be
dipped in water at like like a spongy bread like
materials sucked down while you're eating these.
Speaker 8 (45:51):
It's it's really.
Speaker 14 (45:53):
Gross to watch everybody eat. But a great American tradition.
Speaker 8 (45:57):
No doubt.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
All right, Petros, who you got a right one for you?
In a in an eating contest? Do you have Joey
Chestnut or lard ass from stand Hey?
Speaker 7 (46:08):
Petro's before you answer this? Does this kind of feel
like you know one of those?
Speaker 4 (46:11):
You know?
Speaker 5 (46:12):
Would you rather?
Speaker 4 (46:13):
Or are you in? Or are you out? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:14):
You notice where that comes from?
Speaker 5 (46:16):
Petros? Yeah, now you're now you're hearing where.
Speaker 8 (46:19):
It comes from?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah, So who you got, Petros? Lard ass from stand
by Me or Joey Chestnut?
Speaker 8 (46:24):
I'm I'm jerking the wheel? Do you know who wrote
stand by Me?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (46:29):
And Stephen King?
Speaker 7 (46:31):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (46:31):
You ahole son of the Yeah, god damn, yeah.
Speaker 8 (46:38):
God that business. Do you know what it was called?
Speaker 3 (46:44):
Not stand by Me? All the body? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:49):
Damn stepped on your neck?
Speaker 5 (46:51):
Is this the movie stand by Me?
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (46:53):
No, No, the one that's written on a balloon? Brady, Yeah,
I tell you guys this story. Yes, police, please educate us.
Speaker 14 (47:07):
We used to have this violinist at the restaurant. Don't
be that way, Brady, don't get that way.
Speaker 5 (47:12):
Was it Ben King? He said, Stephen King?
Speaker 8 (47:15):
No, it was Stephen King, Ben E King sayings.
Speaker 14 (47:18):
The song by Me got you Okay, Wow, you should
have kept it quiet.
Speaker 8 (47:23):
You exposed yourself right there.
Speaker 7 (47:24):
Yeah, because I'm looking up, I have no idea. We
don't talk about the sixties and seventies much.
Speaker 14 (47:28):
Petro, Well, you know what, maybe you should dive in
because you're listening.
Speaker 8 (47:32):
We'll get you're listening for So ben Her is a
great story.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
It is.
Speaker 8 (47:40):
I'm not saying it's not. Don't get many of those
references to tell you my story.
Speaker 14 (47:47):
Yes, we used to have this violinist at my dad's
restaurant named Giovanni. And of course, you know, like most violinists,
he was high strung and he hated this one Greek
bus boy, a high school kid from South Torrence High
School named Chris Captain, which was cut down from Capitl
Tanaki's and his father was like in charge of the
(48:09):
choir at the church, so that's why he had a
job at the restaurant. And for some reason Giovanni hated him.
And uh, you know, this is before cell phones and
all that. The restaurant had phones, and Giovanni was on
the restaurant phone and he was very upset. There was
something going on, and he hung up the phone. He said,
there's been an accident. You know, my wife and son
(48:29):
were in an accident. And Captain goes a car accident
and Giovanni turned to him.
Speaker 8 (48:37):
And said, no, balloon accident and he started choking him.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Was this like a hot air balloon went down? Well, no,
it was a car accident.
Speaker 8 (48:50):
It was a balloon. Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Anyway, Well listen, pe we appreciate it. No, listen, I'm no.
I'm tired of everybody.
Speaker 6 (48:59):
Oh, come on, I went to be tired of me
because I know you say one word.
Speaker 8 (49:05):
That makes one word to you. This entire second makes
self consciousness.
Speaker 6 (49:10):
Joan is geek out over you. I have not said one,
so you can't be.
Speaker 7 (49:15):
Hey, Petros, how do you feel about LeVar saying he
would whoop the crap out of Rockapella?
Speaker 5 (49:19):
The group that's sang Carmen san Diego.
Speaker 3 (49:22):
I mean I would Wait a minute, I mean I would.
Speaker 8 (49:26):
What do we have to say from San Diego?
Speaker 4 (49:28):
Nothing?
Speaker 7 (49:29):
We actually played it as the theme of where is
Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 4 (49:32):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (49:34):
You got that big have something against the way they
sounded singing the song, Peach, he watched it here.
Speaker 4 (49:43):
At once.
Speaker 14 (49:44):
I went to a concert last night. I was out
till midnight and for me, that's like the equivalent of
like not leaving a whorehouse for three months.
Speaker 8 (49:54):
Like that was.
Speaker 14 (49:55):
It was a real adventure last night. I used to
go out a lot in anyway, it's a little more odom,
is what that is. Yeah, the face down dead and
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