June 25, 2024 • 44 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Panther beat the Oilers in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup. JJ Redick doubles down on the F- Bomb in his introduction presser and the guys relive their Monday, filling in for The Herd.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Aarings, Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yep, go ahead, Brady Quinn, there you go. Panthers won
the Stanley Cup game Cats.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, that was an awesome game. Come on, everyone who
watched that it was. It was a great game. You
kind of felt like Edmonton at some point was going
to get a goal in the in the third period
until I thought the last two three minutes and you
heard Sean McDonough say it, they looked ghasted. There was
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just times when they so many of their stars, in
particular Econor McDavid, they just stayed out on the ice,
you know, almost play the entire game. And it's everything
you love about sport. It's everything you love about you know,
a game seven like that, where guys are putting it
all out there, they're leaving everything out there for the
sake of competition, trying to win a championship. And it's
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unfortunate for Conor McDavid, who's the best hockey player in
the world and yet the Stanley Cup still eludes him.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But for the Florida Panthers.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And an organization that if you look at what Vincent
Viola has done their new owner. And I can speak
to this firsthand because he should be a beacon of
life for every poor franchise out there that's that's been awful.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
This is what good ownership can do.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It can literally transform a team that was an afterthought
that when you'd go to games there was a lot
of fans dressed up like seats.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's when they shoot out the T shirt cannon.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
There was a greater likelihood it would hit an empty
seat as opposed to a fan. And he's completely transformed
that South Florida market back to kind of some of
their earlier days. I think if you go back in
the nineties, there's folks when they used to play down
in Miami who would have said, like, hey, this was
a fun friendranchise, one that you know, had had some
(02:02):
had some runs of success, but nothing like these in
the last few years.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And and so credit to him, credit to.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Barry Zito, Matt Caldwell, all the all the people who
are involved. Because they've built up this roster, they've built
up this team, They've they've built in a fan base
where I mean, you felt that place was absolutely electrical
last night.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
It really was.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And and they've got a tremendous team, So happy for man.
I mean I've watched I'm telling you, I've watched that
team go from the depths of the NHL now obviously
to the pinnacle and it's been incredible to watch them
to really transform in andto it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
M were you waiting on me? You know you were
waiting on.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I mean, I just you know, I don't know if
I feel like this was.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
One of those those topics where Q covered it so well.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I mean, what else am I going to? What else
am I going to bring to? We did have a
side be last night LaVar As Jonas and I were watching.
We had a side belt. We're like, is LeVar watching?
Is he actually gonna watch this? Oh? I did watch,
you know, I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I moved my daughter into into her college dorm yesterday.
It was very it was a very, very busy day.
But I did watch. But what exactly am I supposed
to bring to the conversation? I think you've covered it all.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So when the game starts and Florida scores pretty early,
I'm like, oh, here we go. Is this is going
to turn it? And then Edmonton responds right back. I'm like,
all right, this is a game seven, Yes, serious, this
is this is what we needed. This is the game seven.
Now is there outrage for the fact that Connor McDavid
did win the con smythe and he was on the
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losing team, which, as Eddie pointed out, only the second
non goalie to have that happen in the history of
the NHL. And it's been a long time since that's happened.
So was it grooved?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I would I would be curious to ask Eddie because
I personally didn't have a problem with it. The only
thing I'd say was, but Conor McDavid has that impact
because he's just the best player and everyone knows. We
talked about it, my brother in law was here, we
were talking about it last night. But he didn't have
the impact, at least in the box score, that you
(04:12):
would have hoped for from it. I mean, Florida did
such an amazing job defensively against him to not even
allow him even get a shot on goal, and there's
somebody to be said for that. So even though I
think you'd say, oh, what about Barbrovski, Well, there was
some times where he really struggled in this series.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So I can see.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Why Connor McDavid gets it, because even schematically, it changed
everything Florida could do.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I mean, Barkov, who's a really good.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Defensive or good defenseman offensively speaking, though.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Like he could go and score.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I mean, he kind of just focused defensive and trying
to eliminate Connor McDavid when there on the ice together.
But he's a guy that typically can play more of
a role offensively, which is something you see now from
today's defenseman in hockey. You know, back in the old days,
you would just be, you know, you're trying to take
guys out and play defense and make sure you know
guys ahead of you go score.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But with Barkov, I think he literally kind of changed up,
you know, is the entire game plan around that one
McDavid's on the ice because he's just that special of
a player.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So I didn't have an issue with it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I'd be more curious because Eddie's more of a NHL purist, you.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Know, did he so bombed that too?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Like was there more of a thought of like, hey,
he didn't have as big of an impact in the
box score, And that's one of the reasons why people
might have had an issue with.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It, Edmund, your thoughts on Connor McDavid. A fine award
for a fine irishman who took it home last night,
although losing any.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Games, well, it's a little weird because he didn't do
anything in the last two games, so that, you know,
kind of leaves an interesting taste in your mouth. He
did have an amazing entire postseason, and it is it's
supposed to be the MVP of the entire playoffs. Okay, Now,
if somebody for Florida would have kind of really stepped up,
you know, because it was I mean, they were the
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better team. That's why I picked them, you know, at
the beginning of the of the series.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
To win the cup Cats.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
But you know, and Bobrovsky after the first three games,
they were ready to put his name on it. But
then they had the next three games and that took
his name and uh, I mean, he had he had
a he had the great game when it counted most.
But there wasn't really anybody for Florida who really stood out.
And you're like, well, that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If they win the other them what the most assists this? Uh?
The Stanley Cup.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
It was fourth most points ever in the postseason, right.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I still can't get over the fact that they had
literally had more goals on the pedally kill.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Than like fALS if they allowed power play goals.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was like, how is that possible?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, it's supposed to be your your special teams,
your advantage, right, and they literally flipped the script like
that was you. You could talk about the series for
a while. There were certain things that stood out. That
was the first thing to me. How amazing Edmonton was.
The entire Stanley Cup and in particular series on the
power play kill. It was unbelievable. How you guys view this?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
If Atmington were to have actually pulled it out with
the comeback that they made, and it's huge for Canada, right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No, it would have been great.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I mean would have been great.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh we saw one Oilers fan how excited she was
that'd been the entire country.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I mean, you know, all of a sudden years ninety
three was the last time a Canadian team.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Was with that head.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, Patrick Waugh, Eddie's La Kings.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
You didn't need to include that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm just simply stated, I'm still upset with you that
you I swear to god, I didn't change a song
like I will take a lie detector test. I swear
to god I had nothing to do.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
With Can you get the light detector out please? We're
gonna him up in between a break.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I've actually already sent the message to Veto asking why
he would do such a thing. I don't want to
reveal what I know until later on the show, but
Jonas continudn't tease it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
But I do have some inside info on this.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh wow, what is this? What's going on behind the
scenes here?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I can't I would tell you later portion of the show,
and I'll explain what I believe or who I believe.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is the culprit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, fair enough, that makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It was a very corny opening song.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It is a song.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It was a what's so is it?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Because it's well, it was just a corny it's a
corn I mean, it's a cool song, but it's a
corny song.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean, what were you doing when that song came out?
Because I'm trying to think how old I was.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
When I came out. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh, you had to have been like in college. Is
that like from the nineties, like early nineties.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I don't hold on. I'm gonna look it up, but
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I don't remember one hundred percent what I was doing
when that song came out.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I see, when did it come to ninety six? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I was in high school. I was, I was, I
was in high school. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
mean that ninety six was a good year. It was
a good year. But I don't remember. I don't recall
what I was doing in that song.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Case.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Wait a second, the guy, the singer of that song
was born in Germany.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You couldn't tell by his accident.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, I couldn't. I'm sorry. I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Return to the macis exactly where you're from. But I
know he wasn't from here.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I didn't know Ramstein did a cover of that, So no,
I couldn't tell that he was German. Oh yeah, apparently
I need uh say it.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Say what you want to say, someone want to say.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I didn't know blacks lived in Germany's Well, that's what
you wanted to say.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That's what you wanted to say. Black people do live
in the UK.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, listen, all good? You know, dang bro all good?
I just you know, I wasn't expecting that. But nonetheless,
we'll we'll maybe get to the bottom of that throughout
the course of the show as to who was responsible
for switching up and ripping Sanford and Son from the airways.
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Speaker 2 (11:13):
Bro It was introduced yesterday the hiring of JJ Reddick
by the Los Angeles Lakers. We do have a little
bit from JJ Reddick talking with the media yesterday that
gathered to ask him a bunch of questions and here
was a Listen.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
What misconceptions or concerns about you that you've heard in
the last few weeks are you most like looking forward
to dispelling?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
It's a valid question, and I've certainly heard everything. You know,
It's it's been a really interesting, uh six weeks or
so just in terms of, you know, being part of
the engagement farming industry. You know, it's been really interesting. However,
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I don't really have a great answer for your question
because I really don't give it. Like, honestly, I want
to coach the Lakers. I want to coach the team.
I don't want to dispel anything.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I don't. I want to become a great coach.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
In the NBA, and I want to win championships and
I want my players to maximize their careers.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
That's all I care about.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Fiery, I love that, love that great.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's the typical kiss ass media that covers the Lakers.
It's just.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
That Erdis said Johnson, that's my that's my kind of coach. There, Um,
that's our coach.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Oh gosh, he's one of us.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Like what geez?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Fanboys?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
All right, well, how did you guys feel about it?
I mean, now, what was what was your takeaway from that?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Didn't we have a chance leader to bring JJ Redick
on today?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We did? I believe. I believe Lee, we are going
to bring JJ Reddick on today.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Is that our three?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Our three? Our our four?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
No no, no, our three?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Really? I thought we had it.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
We know, I'm lost, I think, Les, do you remember
talking last night?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Oh my god, of course. Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's like moments where I just know, like it's it's Lee.
It's moments like these where I just really realized.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Hold on, I am not wearing this one.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Like what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We had something that we were going to try and
play off keep it up with JJ Reddick that I
don't know that it's that it's.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Maybe maybe to be ready to go an hour three,
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
To postpone this and Lee's responses, I have zero confidence.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And I don't know what gave you that indication was
the board shorts that could have been the first indo
creator you know, could have been.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
In Now would you like to hear.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Just on that note, is there any more of an
indicator if someone where's board shorts like a meeting, like
let's say, is your attorney or your accountant, You're like, oh,
I can tell you my taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Are not done. I mean this dude just walked with
board shorts.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Clearly his priority is not anything that I'm asking him
to do as a professional man, Like that's Is that
not the most telling thing that someone could wear into
a meeting where you're like, oh, this isn't this isn't
gonna go.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm not a big fan of board shorts, to be
honest with you, Like there's that we need to go
down that path. Well, there's no pockets. I'm just saying,
where do you put your stuff?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm saying, tell me I'm wrong, tell me something you're right,
or shorts you're looking at going, oh no, they're going to.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Get this done your hundred percent right, one hundred percent right. So,
you know, not not an effective way.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It wasn't a super big, big, tall task either.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know, if it really was it right? Well, we're
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Uh now, would you like to hear us We are
efforting getting JJ Redick on to ask him a bunch
of questions throughout the course of the show. Would you
guys like to hear Rob Palinka, the GM of the Lakers,
lie to the media. This is fun here he was, Yeah,
of course here he was trying to pretend that Lebron
James had no real influence on the hiring or anything
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that goes on there.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
He was very supportive of our organization in this process.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And that's a different word.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
And I want to be mindful of the word, so
I would say say it again. Lebron was very supportive
of us in our process, but chose not to be
heavily involved, and we respected that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's that's his mo. He's never involved in any disason.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
He chose not to be heavily involved, and we respect that.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Should we not dis sect that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, it's a lie, Like it's pretty it's it's pretty simple.
It's a lie. He's been involved in every move that's
ever been made for any organization he's ever played for,
and wanted influence and wanted say in all of it,
and that's fine, but all of a sudden in year
twenty eight or whatever it is now he doesn't want
to say, it's just like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Well, well, if the statement were true, what does that
say about Rob Polinka and and just the decision makers
of the team, Like, what does heavily involve consist of?
He didn't want to be heavily involved? What does that
consist of?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You know?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Because I mean wasn't he at the meetings that they
have photos of them, you know, having you know, lunches
and stuff like that with the coaches and different things
like that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I mean, how many players do that? How many?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
How many active roster players are part of the coaching
searching you know, search committee.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
That's a good question. I mean, I know there's typically
players who.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Will go try to recruit other players, right, Like wasn't
or in some of the Golden State Warriors with Steve
Kerr when they went after Kevin Durant. Yeah, wasn't that
a thing that Gail flew and kind of made their pitch?
Like typically you see it that way. It's not very
often you see players do it. However, this is Lebron
James I mean, if there was a player to do it,
he would be that player to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
At this point in time in his career. I think
he's he's earned that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And there's other players and other sports that have you know,
chimed in on that. You know, I think, you know,
you talk about Aaron Rodgers and some of the difficulties
I think he had in Green Bay with some of
the coaching hires and so forth, like that was something that.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I think he, you know, want to be more involved in.
Wouldn't we think that's a slipper slow?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Like I would?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I would, I would be curious because in listening to
all of this playouts as it took place, everybody just
talked about what the conditions would be based off of
who Lebron wanted hired. I mean, and now, while I
don't necessarily look at it and feel as though it's
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as egregious as maybe it's been reported, or as as
JJ Reddick, the click what do you say to clickbait
farmers or the click farmers or whatever, I just really
find myself thinking, isn't a coach in a compromised position?
Like yes, Lebron has has done enough and and has
earned the respect and the clout to kind of call
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his shot if the organization feels that strongly about him
and his services. But doesn't that put the coach in
a compromising position? And doesn't that to me? The first
thing I think about when I hear a statement like
that is it makes it makes the Hurley, you know,
kind of passing up on on the job have a
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little bit more relevancy to it, because even if Lebron
wasn't very much involved, what if that was the narrative?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What what?
Speaker 5 (19:18):
What if that was the kind of overarching feeling that
Lebron's influence has everything to do with what this hiring
is going to be and what it's going to look like.
If that's the case, you got to believe that in
some ways some form, even if Lebron James has a
good approach to what what's he's thinking or what he
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wants out of the scenario with his contribution, that that's
that's kind of you're putting your your coach in possibly
a compromising position, right.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, but that's probably the position that coach is in regardless.
I mean, I feel like if you sign up to
be the head coach of a team with a absolute legend,
one of the all time greats.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
It goes hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I just I feel like that's what you're ultimately dealing with,
is you're dealing with someone who's gonna want to have
a say in some of this, or someone who believes
that they've reached a point where you should listen to them.
And I don't think they're necessarily wrong. And I'll put
it this way. I know a head coach who interviewed
for you know, a former head coach who interviewed for
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another head coaching job in the NFL, and the ownership
group was surprised that he had contacted the quarterback before
the interview, And one of the reasons he did it
is because he knew how important it was to have
a relationship with that player walking in the door, understanding
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how he feels about things, how he sees things from
an offensive standpoint, and that was an incredibly important not
only to him from his prior experience in coaching and
seeing another superstar he you know, had coached and been with,
you know, hand in hand, but also moving forward knowing
what that was going to be like. And so I'm
not going to say who it was or who it
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is but I'll put it this way. He was dead
on and the organization decided to go in a different direction.
So and looked and honestly like the way that whole
situation worked out. You look back on it and go, yeah,
that was probably the better approach of it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So I look at it this way.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I think what's going to be fascinating is and this is,
this is what happens in our society is if we
see someone who takes a prominent job, and this is
one of the most ballyhooed jobs, you know, positions in sport.
It just is being the Lakers head coach. It's that
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legendary of a franchise. To me, what's gonna stand out
is if JJ Reddick hits and he's able to make
this team into a championship team. And I'm not talking
about the bubble Boys all right back in twenty twenty,
all right, terrible movie. I'm not talking about that. I
am talking about a legit full NBA season, actually getting
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into the playoffs, not having to be in the play in.
I don't care about the end season term. I'm talking
about winning an NBA finals. You are then gonna look
at him differently and say, all right, like players can
do this, guys can have zero experience and can come
from broadcasting and do this. And I think it's a
good thing for a lot of other former athletes because
it opens the door for them to realize the influence
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of it. But I also think, you know, there's a
lot of naysayers, because there's gonna be a lot of
people who want to look at them say it's not
that easy, and then, first off, it's not. I mean,
you have to be an exceptionally intelligent high iq EQ
all that stuff, understand the team building schematics and everything else.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Maybe JJ reddick stack out. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, it's gonna be fascinating to watch. I think
that's the biggest thing for me. I said this to
Jonas last week.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
LeVar, that's I'm more fascinated.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
And curious than I am as far as like having
an opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
On me too, I just want to watch. I want
to see how it plays out because.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I'm curious because this is this storyline has played out
once before in a different sport.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Have we gotten JJ on or are we still waiting?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't believe so. I think I'm still still working
on that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh, the dude does does not abide.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I mean he said he didn't give enough, So I
mean it makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Conor McGregor now now.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
JJ Reddick, Oh seriously, I mean, shouldn't there be some
type of feeling like I don't know that I've seen
a storyline come out or anything like that. But to
your point, Q, when you look at what happened with
Jeff Saturday, I mean I felt this. I kind of
feel like I said the same a lot of the
same thing you're saying right now. You know, it could
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have such a profound impact on a bit of a difference.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean, he's not taking over in the middle of
the season and all that. Well, that well, that is fair,
is fair? He was set up to fail. Besides their
their initial game, which looked great.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, he won his first game. That's all you needed.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I thought it was because you were going to get
a position of the staff. Like now that that thing
didn't work out, can we talk about that for a second.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Sure, did you have something lined up? No?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Okay, no, I'm not. I'm not in the I'm not
in the you know, the coaching world anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm not. It's done. I love radio, I know.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But I still like seeing you on the sidelines like
there's that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't know. I mean I was out there at
that you could do both. We do someone else who's
doing both right now? You know.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I thought about it, you know, when I heard that
announcement and saw that the show was still going to
continue on and now that's a part of the opening,
I thought about it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm not going to precedent setting.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's what happens is once one person does it, then
everyone else like you once.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I knew I would be supported and what it is
that I was doing, but I knew I had to
be the hate coach, and that's not going to be
an easy thing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I'm not really do you think.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Do you think part of the issue also was just
your violent past with other coaches that you've been in around.
I mean, yeah, after hearing how walking Corpse that was
assaulted during a sisod, like.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
After hearing how aggressive JJ Reddick was with how he
answers questions, I mean, that's that's what That's what the
people want.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
People. You heard of people what they want? You can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You heard him in the background, Yeah, they were there.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh my gosh, I love that answer. Loved Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uh, in your defense, the guy with the auction tank
kind of you.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Know, tried.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
For Why would I call from the video? Why is
this happening right now? Man rolled up right up on me.
He picked me up. I'm not even a head coach.
All the coaches is on the field. He won't run
up on me.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
He thought he was in a safe space, speaking of
bubble boys.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Like he thought he was like in a very clean,
hygienic air of environment that he could operate and not
face the consequences.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Of what he says, unlike Lorena.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
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Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yesterday we did a fill in for the herd and
with a Colin Cowhard. We filled in yesterday, so you
know we.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Had all be coming back on there.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, they dumped it. You're fine, but they.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Know what I said, you know which, I didn't feel
like it was egregious at all. I didn't feel like
there was any time beef connected to it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It is interesting being in a different time slot. I
mean just from the behind the scenes. The timing element
so different. Oh, the bottom of the hour will catch you.
Sometimes the cloud is different too. Q. I mean in
the studio was like everybody was there was dang, it's
like the show.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Fat chance getting them at four in the morning. Nobody's
in here except for us.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Then you come in at at nine in the morning
and then.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Got with people there, you know. Yeah, one show, they
were there for the show. They were spectating our show.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Just hanging out everybody. Yeah, just just wanted to see.
They wanted to get a glimpse of a stick city
in person. And so, uh, you know, ten dollars for what. Listen,
I'm just speaking the truth here on this show. That's
all now, that being said. That being said, uh, I
felt like we did do the show a solid yesterday
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because we talked cowboys all right. We talked to Lebron
like it was like every food group was represented on
that show. As far as playing. We talked to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
By design, right.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I'm not I'm not I'm not taking shots. I'm just
saying there's certain shows, especially this time of year, that's
what they lean on, and that's maybe what the audience
wants like this.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
As you said, there's ten people standing there watching.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Maybe there's a lot of research and data that goes
into that. We try to stay topical, but yeah, I
felt like we were forced into having talked about subjects
that maybe let me ask.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
When you're doing that, when you guys are getting ready
for big noon, like is there certain like does the
production crew like let you guys know, like, hey, we've
got to make sure we talk Dion here, We've got
to make sure we talk Harbaugh here, Like there's got
to be something to that as well, Like there's no like.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We get to talk about what we want to talk about,
you know, and we and we talk for a while.
If something's controversial, how we want to go about handling that.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
But we'd like to keep it all football. We'd like
to keep it all fun.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But we're never forced to talk about something we don't
want to talk about. Now, there might be a game
that other guys aren't as high on, so they'll be like, hey,
can you take that game or do you talk about
that game?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'd rather talk about this game.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
There's there's elements like that in the show, but there's
never a time when it produces like you have to
talk about this or this is what the audience. It's
never that I mean, because that kind of takes care
of itself, right, Like if Coach Prime is a story,
like we're going to be there. We were there last
year for like a month. I almost bought property in Denver.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Again. It was like I might as well just buy
a place and move in out.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
How many games you guys got this year with Colorado?
Any guarantees have you locked up anything?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I played the fifth.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So I would just generally say that that we are
never when we're fortunate in that respect, because I'll put
it this way, not all networks are built the same,
and I could tell you how Fox is building.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
They don't force you to talk about anything.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So because we talked about the Cowboys yesterday, I did
have a follow up on the Mike McCarthy story, which which,
by the way, uh.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
So all that to say, well, I do all of
that to say, And we talked to c about how
they handled might I was I.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was thinking about this. I was thinking about this last night.
So the story that came out from Tyler Dunn was
that Mike McCarthy reportedly is fed up with Jerry Jones
and just sort of I guess the circus that's going
on there in Dallas. So my my question to you
guys would be this, because I was thinking about this,
if this wasn't true, wouldn't you think Mike McCarthy at
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some point.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Refute you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Like, I don't know if he's on social media, but
is there a way for Mike McCarthy to be like, man,
that's my owner. I'm not trying to cause any problems.
Let me just go ahead and let everybody know this
is not true despite whatever these sources have said. Yet
you know, nothing's come out, nobody's pushed back on it,
nobody's denied it, nobody's and I just think this adds
to another storyline that Jerry Jones is going to have
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to answer questions about and Mike McCarthy when they get
to Oxnard for training camp coming up in a couple
of weeks. But the fact that nobody's pushed back on
it or said oh no, no, no, this is you know,
that's all a bunch of crap.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
To me.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That just that tells me that, well, you know, maybe
Mike McCarthy's not all that bond that story got out,
and then there is some legitimacy too.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Some people say starve gossip though, you know, while I
think that there is legitimacy to it coming out from
sources within the organization, which we've we've had this conversation
numerous times about the New York Jets and and how
that can be a culture crippler. Maybe they're just taking
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the approach of starving the gossip. Maybe maybe it wasn't
intended to get out. Maybe it isn't something that you know,
the Joneses you know, are a part of, or Mike
McCarthy is is a part of. I mean, maybe he
doesn't really feel as though he's being undermined by the
Jones family and that he's fed up with it. Maybe
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that's not. Maybe it's not Maybe it's embellished a bit
much and he didn't feel as though he needed to
address it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I wonder, I mean, nothing against Tyler Dunn, but it
was a one foot down is that the day of
the uh his blog post?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Maybe they don't feel like it's is it really what
one foot down.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Or whatever their golong tap.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I wouldn't think. I mean, I love that. I think
that that's like a college blog site, is it really? Yeah?
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I mean I wouldn't think about sports when I think
of one foot down, it's like.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
One foot like down and bounds kind of thing. I think.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Anyway, whatever you said it was yesterday coming from maybe
they don't feel like it's credible enough to want to
address it, and maybe they would rather see where this goes. However,
I mean, Tyler Dunn's well respected. That's why some of
the different aggregators picked it up. They started to run
with that story and talk about it. But maybe maybe
they don't care. You know, at this point, the Dallas
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Cowboys are the most valued franchise in sports, so they
might look at it and say, yeah, that's it is
what it is, just drama going in the season.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So be it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know, we do have a lot on the line,
and maybe Rokay with him having to deal with that
sort of pressure.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Do you think if this came out last off see,
or if this came out a couple of months back
or a few months back and it was right after
the year and it turned out that Mike McCarthy was
fed up, do you think they would have just pulled
the trigger fired him and hired dan Quinn as the
head coach and just made the move before he went
to Washington.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I would say yes.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
However, again, we we tend to judge a book oftentimes
by how it ends. I mean, how often do we
ever look at the entire body of work. Dan Quinn
was phenomenal over the entire body of work while was
in Dallas. That being said, it ended like every season
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in the last few years for.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Dallas, it was disastrous.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Green Bay came in there and I don't know that
the defense ever really got it together. I mean maybe
the second half, but it felt like green Bay played
more conservative, but they torched them, I mean absolutely lit
them up. And you know, Dak and the offense started
to pick things up, but again green Bay got conservative
at every capacity, defensively and offensively at that point. So again,
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as much as we want to look back and go, well, yeah,
he just would have slid right it him like the
defense didn't show up either. I mean, no one showed
up for a home playoff games.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was It's wild.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean, go back, go back through the ending of
each of the last three seasons, go back through the endings.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
It has been crazy. When you think about every single
year the last.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Three years, they've had arguably the worst ending to a
season of any team in the NFL, granted in the playoffs,
and there's something to be said for that, because you
do have to acknowledge that Mike McCarthy has brought this
team now to a perennial playoff team.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
It's just what they can do.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Once they get there, because that's the standard that Jerry
Jones is looking for. That's why they brought Mike McCarthy
in the first place, was to go win a super
Bowl because of his pedigree, and Green Band.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Hadn't won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
So that's the tough thing about it is, you know,
as much as you want to say, like, yeah, yeah,
he was supposed to slip right in, I don't know, man,
everyone had to sour taste them out after that loss.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'm gonna say this, and I know I've been getting
labeled a hater lately. I just feel like I've just
been shooting it real from the hip and I'm gonna
do it once more. You have a team that isn't
an elite accomplishing team. I think it's safe to say that.
(36:09):
I think we know that they have a quarterback that
is is a second tier elite. I'll give him elite,
but I'll say second tier. He's not a first tier
elite quarterback in this league. When you say first tier
being an Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes, I'm not putting
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Dak Prescott in that category.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I'm just not.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
You have a super elite defend defender and Michael Parsons,
and maybe you do have some guys that you know,
the Trayvon Diggs will see how he, you know, pans
out coming back from his injury. You have some guys
that you can talk about on the defense. But all
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in all, you know, if Jerry Jones and the Jones
family aren't keeping things going within the media, as we highlighted,
they have different spots him and his son Steven have
different spots on radio shows during the course of the week.
If they're not driving drama, if they're not selling drama,
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why like, why else do we care about talking about Dallas?
Like imagine I could see us Like, Okay, Travis Kelsey
was just on stage. Now he's doing the rounds with.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
What's her name again, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
He's doing his rounds with Taylor Swift again, you know
who knows what does does Patrick Mahomes. I would think
that we would be more interested in finding out what's
going on in the off season with an elite team
like the Kansas City Chiefs. What's what's Andy Reid doing
right now? I'm curious what the hell right now would
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Andy Reid be doing with his life right now?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I would be curious to know about that. So in
a way, I almost feel like, you know, Mike.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
McCarthy should be happy that that Jerry Jones and company
know how to keep you know, his name in people's mouths.
You know, they should be happy that Jerry Jones knows
how to keep the Dallas Cowboys in their their players'
names in people's mouths. They should be happy because outside
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of that, the body of work doesn't say that they
should be a play the Hits.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Type of story in media. They're not.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
What's the relevance of the Dallas Cowboys outside of the
drama that takes place within the organizations.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Since since McCarthy's gotten there, there's only three teams that
have more wins in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Is that a regular season? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Regular season, which.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Again it's you've used that stab before, and it's completely
negated by the fact that like that wasn't what he
was brought in to do.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I'm not sure that I haven't used that stab before.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
You definitely used that before. Us wise came off to talk.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
So, okay, can you Here's what I want to do.
I want to play a little game. We have some
game show music?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Possibly some game show music? Today? Is too much to
ask for?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Boy Shorts later day? All right, you pissed him off.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Your twenty twenty one regular season into twenty twenty two.
Can you guys describe for me how the Dallas Cowboys
season ended versus the San Francisco fort nine as the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
That was the Elliott got rand Hello.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
That was the they couldn't That was the blame, Kellen Moore,
because they couldn't get a playoff in time.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Zach correct, Maybe Dak Prescott was part of that. But
with fourteen seconds left on the Sam France Cisco forty one,
where you could have taken a shot definitely maybe two
to the end zone, which right, and instead Dak Prescott
ran up the middle and unfortunately the game ended with
him not being able to spike the ball.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
In time to stop the clock.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
So there was that controversial, surprising call, slash decision. Put
it on Kellen Moore, put it on Dak Prescott, whoever.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
But that was how that wanted. Now, that was fast forward.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That was at home, right, that was at home. Yes,
that was at home.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Let's fast forward to the next season again, the Dallas
Cowboys getting balanced in a little tighter affair versus San
Francisco forty nine ers this time though in Santa Clara LeVar.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Would you like to this.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Was the one where Ezekiel Elliott got obliterated on the
last way that.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Is correct, past six seconds left the game. The Dallas
Cowboys backed up in their own territory around the twenty
four yard line. They decided to run.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, you kind of have to run in this position
where you're gonna have a lot of Yeah, it's a
desperation play, have a lot of skill guys out there.
There are some linemen, but it's a it's a funky formation.
Zeke Elliott's the center, and as dek Prescott gets the
ball drops back, zeke Ke Elliott gets absolutely blown up,
and so does Comante turpid by jimmy word for that matter.
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So that is the end of Dallas that season.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Now do you think that that's part of the reason
why Zeke came back because they were like, you know,
we can't have you go out like that. That would
have been your last plage a cowboy. We got to
bring it back and do this right. So now he's
back and he's in the rotation for the Dallas.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Probably probably that's one of them. And then it's past season.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I'm sure you recant what happened against the green Bay package.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I think I got it too much. I know, I
know I got it. I think that Dallas got mutilated
by Green Bay and by the time they were able
to formulate anything on offense and get anything going, the
game was already way out of reach. But if you
look at the box score, I think Jake Ferguson had
a monster game. Then garbage time put the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
So there is and Aaron Jones did him?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Did it them?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
They did it?
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Did it them? Did it them? How would you just
got you got?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Did it? You got? Did it like you know, like
an argument? Did the argument? It got? Did it like? Yeah?
D e A d E ed pay It's tense they
got did it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Twenty seven to seven at halftime, a gigantic second quarter
by the Green Bay Package against the Dallas.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I still believe that game went the way it went.
Like while it was happening, I was like, nah, it
is just no like they'll figure this out. There's no
way this is happening.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
It just got worse, and really it was twenty seven
nothing after a Dak Prescott interception that was returned by
Darnell Savage for a touchdown, So it kind of felt
worse than that, even though Dak let him on a
two minute drive before half for the touchdown to make
it feel closer. But it just there was never really
a point in time outside of the very very end
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where Dallas started to creep back. But even then they
only got within I think a couple of scores.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
See, I thought it was the opening kickoff was the
only time they were in the game.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
That was kind of it.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
James Ferguson did have a ten catches, ninety three yards
and three touchdowns and none of it mattered. What a
waste of time. I do remember seeing Cowboys, so there
was like a couple like this guy and his goal
were sitting there in just total shock watching the game transpire,
and meanwhile, lead the Lap was just getting mangled watching
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the watching his beloved Green Bay Packers taking out yeap, No, listen, man, guys.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Rocks, how did you just end up in board shorts.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Hot day out here in southern California yesterday?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
So you're wearing what you had on yesterday? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Okay, Like I said, I've.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Been, uh, you dirty something.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I've been surfing, so you know, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
You were you really surfing?
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Yeah no, So so what you're saying is you were
in the ocean with those same shorts on that you
have on right now.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
No, it was CouchSurfing. Couch yeah, he at, he's a
couch surfing Okay, I mean, all right, I guess that's
a little better
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Aarings, Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yep, go ahead, Brady Quinn, there you go. Panthers won
the Stanley Cup game Cats.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Yeah, that was an awesome game. Come on, everyone who
watched that it was. It was a great game. You
kind of felt like Edmonton at some point was going
to get a goal in the in the third period
until I thought the last two three minutes and you
heard Sean McDonough say it, they looked ghasted. There was
(00:41):
just times when they so many of their stars, in
particular Econor McDavid, they just stayed out on the ice,
you know, almost play the entire game. And it's everything
you love about sport. It's everything you love about you know,
a game seven like that, where guys are putting it
all out there, they're leaving everything out there for the
sake of competition, trying to win a championship. And it's
(01:04):
unfortunate for Conor McDavid, who's the best hockey player in
the world and yet the Stanley Cup still eludes him.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But for the Florida Panthers.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
And an organization that if you look at what Vincent
Viola has done their new owner. And I can speak
to this firsthand because he should be a beacon of
life for every poor franchise out there that's that's been awful.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
This is what good ownership can do.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It can literally transform a team that was an afterthought
that when you'd go to games there was a lot
of fans dressed up like seats.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
That's when they shoot out the T shirt cannon.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
There was a greater likelihood it would hit an empty
seat as opposed to a fan. And he's completely transformed
that South Florida market back to kind of some of
their earlier days. I think if you go back in
the nineties, there's folks when they used to play down
in Miami who would have said, like, hey, this was
a fun friendranchise, one that you know, had had some
(02:02):
had some runs of success, but nothing like these in
the last few years.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
And and so credit to him, credit to.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Barry Zito, Matt Caldwell, all the all the people who
are involved. Because they've built up this roster, they've built
up this team, They've they've built in a fan base
where I mean, you felt that place was absolutely electrical
last night.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
It really was.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And and they've got a tremendous team, So happy for man.
I mean I've watched I'm telling you, I've watched that
team go from the depths of the NHL now obviously
to the pinnacle and it's been incredible to watch them
to really transform in andto it.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
M were you waiting on me? You know you were
waiting on.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
I mean, I just you know, I don't know if
I feel like this was.
Speaker 5 (02:46):
One of those those topics where Q covered it so well.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I mean, what else am I going to? What else
am I going to bring to? We did have a
side be last night LaVar As Jonas and I were watching.
We had a side belt. We're like, is LeVar watching?
Is he actually gonna watch this? Oh? I did watch,
you know, I'll say this.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
I moved my daughter into into her college dorm yesterday.
It was very it was a very, very busy day.
But I did watch. But what exactly am I supposed
to bring to the conversation? I think you've covered it all.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So when the game starts and Florida scores pretty early,
I'm like, oh, here we go. Is this is going
to turn it? And then Edmonton responds right back. I'm like,
all right, this is a game seven, Yes, serious, this
is this is what we needed. This is the game seven.
Now is there outrage for the fact that Connor McDavid
did win the con smythe and he was on the
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losing team, which, as Eddie pointed out, only the second
non goalie to have that happen in the history of
the NHL. And it's been a long time since that's happened.
So was it grooved?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I would I would be curious to ask Eddie because
I personally didn't have a problem with it. The only
thing I'd say was, but Conor McDavid has that impact
because he's just the best player and everyone knows. We
talked about it, my brother in law was here, we
were talking about it last night. But he didn't have
the impact, at least in the box score, that you
(04:12):
would have hoped for from it. I mean, Florida did
such an amazing job defensively against him to not even
allow him even get a shot on goal, and there's
somebody to be said for that. So even though I
think you'd say, oh, what about Barbrovski, Well, there was
some times where he really struggled in this series.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So I can see.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Why Connor McDavid gets it, because even schematically, it changed
everything Florida could do.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
I mean, Barkov, who's a really good.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Defensive or good defenseman offensively speaking, though.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
Like he could go and score.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
I mean, he kind of just focused defensive and trying
to eliminate Connor McDavid when there on the ice together.
But he's a guy that typically can play more of
a role offensively, which is something you see now from
today's defenseman in hockey. You know, back in the old days,
you would just be, you know, you're trying to take
guys out and play defense and make sure you know
guys ahead of you go score.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But with Barkov, I think he literally kind of changed up,
you know, is the entire game plan around that one
McDavid's on the ice because he's just that special of
a player.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So I didn't have an issue with it.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I'd be more curious because Eddie's more of a NHL purist, you.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Know, did he so bombed that too?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Like was there more of a thought of like, hey,
he didn't have as big of an impact in the
box score, And that's one of the reasons why people
might have had an issue with.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It, Edmund, your thoughts on Connor McDavid. A fine award
for a fine irishman who took it home last night,
although losing any.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Games, well, it's a little weird because he didn't do
anything in the last two games, so that, you know,
kind of leaves an interesting taste in your mouth. He
did have an amazing entire postseason, and it is it's
supposed to be the MVP of the entire playoffs. Okay, Now,
if somebody for Florida would have kind of really stepped up,
you know, because it was I mean, they were the
(06:01):
better team. That's why I picked them, you know, at
the beginning of the of the series.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
To win the cup Cats.
Speaker 6 (06:08):
But you know, and Bobrovsky after the first three games,
they were ready to put his name on it. But
then they had the next three games and that took
his name and uh, I mean, he had he had
a he had the great game when it counted most.
But there wasn't really anybody for Florida who really stood out.
And you're like, well, that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If they win the other them what the most assists this? Uh?
The Stanley Cup.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
It was fourth most points ever in the postseason, right.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I still can't get over the fact that they had
literally had more goals on the pedally kill.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Than like fALS if they allowed power play goals.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was like, how is that possible?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, it's supposed to be your your special teams,
your advantage, right, and they literally flipped the script like
that was you. You could talk about the series for
a while. There were certain things that stood out. That
was the first thing to me. How amazing Edmonton was.
The entire Stanley Cup and in particular series on the
power play kill. It was unbelievable. How you guys view this?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
If Atmington were to have actually pulled it out with
the comeback that they made, and it's huge for Canada, right.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
No, it would have been great.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
I mean would have been great.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh we saw one Oilers fan how excited she was
that'd been the entire country.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I mean, you know, all of a sudden years ninety
three was the last time a Canadian team.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Was with that head.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, Patrick Waugh, Eddie's La Kings.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
You didn't need to include that.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm just simply stated, I'm still upset with you that
you I swear to god, I didn't change a song
like I will take a lie detector test. I swear
to god I had nothing to do.
Speaker 6 (07:49):
With Can you get the light detector out please? We're
gonna him up in between a break.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I've actually already sent the message to Veto asking why
he would do such a thing. I don't want to
reveal what I know until later on the show, but
Jonas continudn't tease it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
But I do have some inside info on this.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Oh wow, what is this? What's going on behind the
scenes here?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I can't I would tell you later portion of the show,
and I'll explain what I believe or who I believe.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is the culprit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Okay, fair enough, that makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
It was a very corny opening song.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
It is a song.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
It was a what's so is it?
Speaker 5 (08:30):
Because it's well, it was just a corny it's a
corn I mean, it's a cool song, but it's a
corny song.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean, what were you doing when that song came out?
Because I'm trying to think how old I was.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
When I came out. I don't remember.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Oh, you had to have been like in college. Is
that like from the nineties, like early nineties.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
I don't hold on. I'm gonna look it up, but
I don't. I don't.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
I don't remember one hundred percent what I was doing
when that song came out.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I see, when did it come to ninety six? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:02):
I was in high school. I was, I was, I
was in high school. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
mean that ninety six was a good year. It was
a good year. But I don't remember. I don't recall
what I was doing in that song.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Case.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Wait a second, the guy, the singer of that song
was born in Germany.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
You couldn't tell by his accident.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
No, I couldn't. I'm sorry. I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
Return to the macis exactly where you're from. But I
know he wasn't from here.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yeah, I don't know. I didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
I didn't know Ramstein did a cover of that, So no,
I couldn't tell that he was German. Oh yeah, apparently
I need uh say it.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Say what you want to say, someone want to say.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I didn't know blacks lived in Germany's Well, that's what
you wanted to say.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That's what you wanted to say. Black people do live
in the UK.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
No, listen, all good? You know, dang bro all good?
I just you know, I wasn't expecting that. But nonetheless,
we'll we'll maybe get to the bottom of that throughout
the course of the show as to who was responsible
for switching up and ripping Sanford and Son from the airways.
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Speaker 2 (11:13):
Bro It was introduced yesterday the hiring of JJ Reddick
by the Los Angeles Lakers. We do have a little
bit from JJ Reddick talking with the media yesterday that
gathered to ask him a bunch of questions and here
was a Listen.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
What misconceptions or concerns about you that you've heard in
the last few weeks are you most like looking forward
to dispelling?
Speaker 7 (11:40):
It's a valid question, and I've certainly heard everything. You know,
It's it's been a really interesting, uh six weeks or
so just in terms of, you know, being part of
the engagement farming industry. You know, it's been really interesting. However,
(12:01):
I don't really have a great answer for your question
because I really don't give it. Like, honestly, I want
to coach the Lakers. I want to coach the team.
I don't want to dispel anything.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I don't. I want to become a great coach.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
In the NBA, and I want to win championships and
I want my players to maximize their careers.
Speaker 4 (12:23):
That's all I care about.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Fiery, I love that, love that great.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
That's the typical kiss ass media that covers the Lakers.
It's just.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
That Erdis said Johnson, that's my that's my kind of coach. There, Um,
that's our coach.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Oh gosh, he's one of us.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Like what geez?
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Fanboys?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
All right, well, how did you guys feel about it?
I mean, now, what was what was your takeaway from that?
Speaker 3 (13:05):
Didn't we have a chance leader to bring JJ Redick
on today?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:09):
We did? I believe. I believe Lee, we are going
to bring JJ Reddick on today.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Is that our three?
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Our three? Our our four?
Speaker 2 (13:19):
No no, no, our three?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Really? I thought we had it.
Speaker 8 (13:22):
We know, I'm lost, I think, Les, do you remember
talking last night?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Oh my god, of course. Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
It's like moments where I just know, like it's it's Lee.
It's moments like these where I just really realized.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Hold on, I am not wearing this one.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Like what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
We had something that we were going to try and
play off keep it up with JJ Reddick that I
don't know that it's that it's.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Maybe maybe to be ready to go an hour three,
But I don't know.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
To postpone this and Lee's responses, I have zero confidence.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
And I don't know what gave you that indication was
the board shorts that could have been the first indo
creator you know, could have been.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
In Now would you like to hear.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Just on that note, is there any more of an
indicator if someone where's board shorts like a meeting, like
let's say, is your attorney or your accountant, You're like, oh,
I can tell you my taxes.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Are not done. I mean this dude just walked with
board shorts.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Clearly his priority is not anything that I'm asking him
to do as a professional man, Like that's Is that
not the most telling thing that someone could wear into
a meeting where you're like, oh, this isn't this isn't
gonna go.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I'm not a big fan of board shorts, to be
honest with you, Like there's that we need to go
down that path. Well, there's no pockets. I'm just saying,
where do you put your stuff?
Speaker 3 (14:59):
I'm saying, tell me I'm wrong, tell me something you're right,
or shorts you're looking at going, oh no, they're going to.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Get this done your hundred percent right, one hundred percent right. So,
you know, not not an effective way.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It wasn't a super big, big, tall task either.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You know, if it really was it right? Well, we're
all right.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Uh now, would you like to hear us We are
efforting getting JJ Redick on to ask him a bunch
of questions throughout the course of the show. Would you
guys like to hear Rob Palinka, the GM of the Lakers,
lie to the media. This is fun here he was, Yeah,
of course here he was trying to pretend that Lebron
James had no real influence on the hiring or anything
(15:42):
that goes on there.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
He was very supportive of our organization in this process.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And that's a different word.
Speaker 9 (15:49):
And I want to be mindful of the word, so
I would say say it again. Lebron was very supportive
of us in our process, but chose not to be
heavily involved, and we respected that.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's that's his mo. He's never involved in any disason.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
He chose not to be heavily involved, and we respect that.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Yeah, you got it.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Should we not dis sect that a little bit?
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, it's a lie, Like it's pretty it's it's pretty simple.
It's a lie. He's been involved in every move that's
ever been made for any organization he's ever played for,
and wanted influence and wanted say in all of it,
and that's fine, but all of a sudden in year
twenty eight or whatever it is now he doesn't want
to say, it's just like, what are we doing here?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Well, well, if the statement were true, what does that
say about Rob Polinka and and just the decision makers
of the team, Like, what does heavily involve consist of?
He didn't want to be heavily involved? What does that
consist of?
Speaker 4 (16:52):
You know?
Speaker 5 (16:53):
Because I mean wasn't he at the meetings that they
have photos of them, you know, having you know, lunches
and stuff like that with the coaches and different things
like that.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I mean, how many players do that? How many?
Speaker 5 (17:04):
How many active roster players are part of the coaching
searching you know, search committee.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
That's a good question. I mean, I know there's typically
players who.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Will go try to recruit other players, right, Like wasn't
or in some of the Golden State Warriors with Steve
Kerr when they went after Kevin Durant. Yeah, wasn't that
a thing that Gail flew and kind of made their pitch?
Like typically you see it that way. It's not very
often you see players do it. However, this is Lebron
James I mean, if there was a player to do it,
he would be that player to do it.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
At this point in time in his career. I think
he's he's earned that.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
And there's other players and other sports that have you know,
chimed in on that. You know, I think, you know,
you talk about Aaron Rodgers and some of the difficulties
I think he had in Green Bay with some of
the coaching hires and so forth, like that was something that.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
I think he, you know, want to be more involved in.
Wouldn't we think that's a slipper slow?
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Like I would?
Speaker 5 (18:02):
I would, I would be curious because in listening to
all of this playouts as it took place, everybody just
talked about what the conditions would be based off of
who Lebron wanted hired. I mean, and now, while I
don't necessarily look at it and feel as though it's
(18:24):
as egregious as maybe it's been reported, or as as
JJ Reddick, the click what do you say to clickbait
farmers or the click farmers or whatever, I just really
find myself thinking, isn't a coach in a compromised position?
Like yes, Lebron has has done enough and and has
earned the respect and the clout to kind of call
(18:48):
his shot if the organization feels that strongly about him
and his services. But doesn't that put the coach in
a compromising position? And doesn't that to me? The first
thing I think about when I hear a statement like
that is it makes it makes the Hurley, you know,
kind of passing up on on the job have a
(19:10):
little bit more relevancy to it, because even if Lebron
wasn't very much involved, what if that was the narrative?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
What what?
Speaker 5 (19:18):
What if that was the kind of overarching feeling that
Lebron's influence has everything to do with what this hiring
is going to be and what it's going to look like.
If that's the case, you got to believe that in
some ways some form, even if Lebron James has a
good approach to what what's he's thinking or what he
(19:42):
wants out of the scenario with his contribution, that that's
that's kind of you're putting your your coach in possibly
a compromising position, right.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Yeah, but that's probably the position that coach is in regardless.
I mean, I feel like if you sign up to
be the head coach of a team with a absolute legend,
one of the all time greats.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
It goes hand in hand.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I just I feel like that's what you're ultimately dealing with,
is you're dealing with someone who's gonna want to have
a say in some of this, or someone who believes
that they've reached a point where you should listen to them.
And I don't think they're necessarily wrong. And I'll put
it this way. I know a head coach who interviewed
for you know, a former head coach who interviewed for
(20:32):
another head coaching job in the NFL, and the ownership
group was surprised that he had contacted the quarterback before
the interview, And one of the reasons he did it
is because he knew how important it was to have
a relationship with that player walking in the door, understanding
(20:53):
how he feels about things, how he sees things from
an offensive standpoint, and that was an incredibly important not
only to him from his prior experience in coaching and
seeing another superstar he you know, had coached and been with,
you know, hand in hand, but also moving forward knowing
what that was going to be like. And so I'm
not going to say who it was or who it
(21:16):
is but I'll put it this way. He was dead
on and the organization decided to go in a different direction.
So and looked and honestly like the way that whole
situation worked out. You look back on it and go, yeah,
that was probably the better approach of it.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
So I look at it this way.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
I think what's going to be fascinating is and this is,
this is what happens in our society is if we
see someone who takes a prominent job, and this is
one of the most ballyhooed jobs, you know, positions in sport.
It just is being the Lakers head coach. It's that
(21:58):
legendary of a franchise. To me, what's gonna stand out
is if JJ Reddick hits and he's able to make
this team into a championship team. And I'm not talking
about the bubble Boys all right back in twenty twenty,
all right, terrible movie. I'm not talking about that. I
am talking about a legit full NBA season, actually getting
(22:20):
into the playoffs, not having to be in the play in.
I don't care about the end season term. I'm talking
about winning an NBA finals. You are then gonna look
at him differently and say, all right, like players can
do this, guys can have zero experience and can come
from broadcasting and do this. And I think it's a
good thing for a lot of other former athletes because
it opens the door for them to realize the influence
(22:42):
of it. But I also think, you know, there's a
lot of naysayers, because there's gonna be a lot of
people who want to look at them say it's not
that easy, and then, first off, it's not. I mean,
you have to be an exceptionally intelligent high iq EQ
all that stuff, understand the team building schematics and everything else.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
Maybe JJ reddick stack out. We don't know.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
I mean, it's gonna be fascinating to watch. I think
that's the biggest thing for me. I said this to
Jonas last week.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
LeVar, that's I'm more fascinated.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
And curious than I am as far as like having
an opinion on it.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
On me too, I just want to watch. I want
to see how it plays out because.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
I'm curious because this is this storyline has played out
once before in a different sport.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Have we gotten JJ on or are we still waiting?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
I don't believe so. I think I'm still still working
on that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Oh, the dude does does not abide.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
I mean he said he didn't give enough, So I
mean it makes sense to me.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
Conor McGregor now now.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
JJ Reddick, Oh seriously, I mean, shouldn't there be some
type of feeling like I don't know that I've seen
a storyline come out or anything like that. But to
your point, Q, when you look at what happened with
Jeff Saturday, I mean I felt this. I kind of
feel like I said the same a lot of the
same thing you're saying right now. You know, it could
(24:02):
have such a profound impact on a bit of a difference.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
I mean, he's not taking over in the middle of
the season and all that. Well, that well, that is fair,
is fair? He was set up to fail. Besides their
their initial game, which looked great.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, he won his first game. That's all you needed.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I thought it was because you were going to get
a position of the staff. Like now that that thing
didn't work out, can we talk about that for a second.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
Sure, did you have something lined up? No?
Speaker 5 (24:29):
Okay, no, I'm not. I'm not in the I'm not
in the you know, the coaching world anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
I'm not. It's done. I love radio, I know.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
But I still like seeing you on the sidelines like
there's that.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I don't know. I mean I was out there at
that you could do both. We do someone else who's
doing both right now? You know.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I thought about it, you know, when I heard that
announcement and saw that the show was still going to
continue on and now that's a part of the opening,
I thought about it.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
I'm not going to precedent setting.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
That's what happens is once one person does it, then
everyone else like you once.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
I knew I would be supported and what it is
that I was doing, but I knew I had to
be the hate coach, and that's not going to be
an easy thing.
Speaker 4 (25:13):
I'm not really do you think.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Do you think part of the issue also was just
your violent past with other coaches that you've been in around.
I mean, yeah, after hearing how walking Corpse that was
assaulted during a sisod, like.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
After hearing how aggressive JJ Reddick was with how he
answers questions, I mean, that's that's what That's what the
people want.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
People. You heard of people what they want? You can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
You heard him in the background, Yeah, they were there.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
Oh my gosh, I love that answer. Loved Johnson.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uh, in your defense, the guy with the auction tank
kind of you.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Know, tried.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
For Why would I call from the video? Why is
this happening right now? Man rolled up right up on me.
He picked me up. I'm not even a head coach.
All the coaches is on the field. He won't run
up on me.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
He thought he was in a safe space, speaking of
bubble boys.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Like he thought he was like in a very clean,
hygienic air of environment that he could operate and not
face the consequences.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
Of what he says, unlike Lorena.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
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Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yesterday we did a fill in for the herd and
with a Colin Cowhard. We filled in yesterday, so you
know we.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Had all be coming back on there.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Well, they dumped it. You're fine, but they.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Know what I said, you know which, I didn't feel
like it was egregious at all. I didn't feel like
there was any time beef connected to it.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
It is interesting being in a different time slot. I
mean just from the behind the scenes. The timing element
so different. Oh, the bottom of the hour will catch you.
Sometimes the cloud is different too. Q. I mean in
the studio was like everybody was there was dang, it's
like the show.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Fat chance getting them at four in the morning. Nobody's
in here except for us.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Then you come in at at nine in the morning
and then.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
Got with people there, you know. Yeah, one show, they
were there for the show. They were spectating our show.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Just hanging out everybody. Yeah, just just wanted to see.
They wanted to get a glimpse of a stick city
in person. And so, uh, you know, ten dollars for what. Listen,
I'm just speaking the truth here on this show. That's
all now, that being said. That being said, uh, I
felt like we did do the show a solid yesterday
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because we talked cowboys all right. We talked to Lebron
like it was like every food group was represented on
that show. As far as playing. We talked to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
By design, right.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
I'm not I'm not I'm not taking shots. I'm just
saying there's certain shows, especially this time of year, that's
what they lean on, and that's maybe what the audience
wants like this.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
As you said, there's ten people standing there watching.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
Maybe there's a lot of research and data that goes
into that. We try to stay topical, but yeah, I
felt like we were forced into having talked about subjects
that maybe let me ask.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
When you're doing that, when you guys are getting ready
for big noon, like is there certain like does the
production crew like let you guys know, like, hey, we've
got to make sure we talk Dion here, We've got
to make sure we talk Harbaugh here, Like there's got
to be something to that as well, Like there's no like.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
We get to talk about what we want to talk about,
you know, and we and we talk for a while.
If something's controversial, how we want to go about handling that.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
But we'd like to keep it all football. We'd like
to keep it all fun.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
But we're never forced to talk about something we don't
want to talk about. Now, there might be a game
that other guys aren't as high on, so they'll be like, hey,
can you take that game or do you talk about
that game?
Speaker 4 (29:18):
I'd rather talk about this game.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
There's there's elements like that in the show, but there's
never a time when it produces like you have to
talk about this or this is what the audience. It's
never that I mean, because that kind of takes care
of itself, right, Like if Coach Prime is a story,
like we're going to be there. We were there last
year for like a month. I almost bought property in Denver.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
Again. It was like I might as well just buy
a place and move in out.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
How many games you guys got this year with Colorado?
Any guarantees have you locked up anything?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
I played the fifth.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
So I would just generally say that that we are
never when we're fortunate in that respect, because I'll put
it this way, not all networks are built the same,
and I could tell you how Fox is building.
Speaker 4 (30:02):
They don't force you to talk about anything.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
So because we talked about the Cowboys yesterday, I did
have a follow up on the Mike McCarthy story, which which,
by the way, uh.
Speaker 5 (30:14):
So all that to say, well, I do all of
that to say, And we talked to c about how
they handled might I was I.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was thinking about this. I was thinking about this last night.
So the story that came out from Tyler Dunn was
that Mike McCarthy reportedly is fed up with Jerry Jones
and just sort of I guess the circus that's going
on there in Dallas. So my my question to you
guys would be this, because I was thinking about this,
if this wasn't true, wouldn't you think Mike McCarthy at
(30:44):
some point.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
Refute you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Like, I don't know if he's on social media, but
is there a way for Mike McCarthy to be like, man,
that's my owner. I'm not trying to cause any problems.
Let me just go ahead and let everybody know this
is not true despite whatever these sources have said. Yet
you know, nothing's come out, nobody's pushed back on it,
nobody's denied it, nobody's and I just think this adds
to another storyline that Jerry Jones is going to have
(31:11):
to answer questions about and Mike McCarthy when they get
to Oxnard for training camp coming up in a couple
of weeks. But the fact that nobody's pushed back on
it or said oh no, no, no, this is you know,
that's all a bunch of crap.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
To me.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
That just that tells me that, well, you know, maybe
Mike McCarthy's not all that bond that story got out,
and then there is some legitimacy too.
Speaker 5 (31:32):
Some people say starve gossip though, you know, while I
think that there is legitimacy to it coming out from
sources within the organization, which we've we've had this conversation
numerous times about the New York Jets and and how
that can be a culture crippler. Maybe they're just taking
(31:57):
the approach of starving the gossip. Maybe maybe it wasn't
intended to get out. Maybe it isn't something that you know,
the Joneses you know, are a part of, or Mike
McCarthy is is a part of. I mean, maybe he
doesn't really feel as though he's being undermined by the
Jones family and that he's fed up with it. Maybe
(32:19):
that's not. Maybe it's not Maybe it's embellished a bit
much and he didn't feel as though he needed to
address it.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I wonder, I mean, nothing against Tyler Dunn, but it
was a one foot down is that the day of
the uh his blog post?
Speaker 4 (32:36):
Maybe they don't feel like it's is it really what
one foot down.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
Or whatever their golong tap.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I wouldn't think. I mean, I love that. I think
that that's like a college blog site, is it really? Yeah?
I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I mean I wouldn't think about sports when I think
of one foot down, it's like.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
One foot like down and bounds kind of thing. I think.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Anyway, whatever you said it was yesterday coming from maybe
they don't feel like it's credible enough to want to
address it, and maybe they would rather see where this goes. However,
I mean, Tyler Dunn's well respected. That's why some of
the different aggregators picked it up. They started to run
with that story and talk about it. But maybe maybe
they don't care. You know, at this point, the Dallas
(33:21):
Cowboys are the most valued franchise in sports, so they
might look at it and say, yeah, that's it is
what it is, just drama going in the season.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
So be it.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You know, we do have a lot on the line,
and maybe Rokay with him having to deal with that
sort of pressure.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Do you think if this came out last off see,
or if this came out a couple of months back
or a few months back and it was right after
the year and it turned out that Mike McCarthy was
fed up, do you think they would have just pulled
the trigger fired him and hired dan Quinn as the
head coach and just made the move before he went
to Washington.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I would say yes.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
However, again, we we tend to judge a book oftentimes
by how it ends. I mean, how often do we
ever look at the entire body of work. Dan Quinn
was phenomenal over the entire body of work while was
in Dallas. That being said, it ended like every season
(34:19):
in the last few years for.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
Dallas, it was disastrous.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Green Bay came in there and I don't know that
the defense ever really got it together. I mean maybe
the second half, but it felt like green Bay played
more conservative, but they torched them, I mean absolutely lit
them up. And you know, Dak and the offense started
to pick things up, but again green Bay got conservative
at every capacity, defensively and offensively at that point. So again,
(34:48):
as much as we want to look back and go, well, yeah,
he just would have slid right it him like the
defense didn't show up either. I mean, no one showed
up for a home playoff games.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
It was It's wild.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean, go back, go back through the ending of
each of the last three seasons, go back through the endings.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
It has been crazy. When you think about every single
year the last.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Three years, they've had arguably the worst ending to a
season of any team in the NFL, granted in the playoffs,
and there's something to be said for that, because you
do have to acknowledge that Mike McCarthy has brought this
team now to a perennial playoff team.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
It's just what they can do.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Once they get there, because that's the standard that Jerry
Jones is looking for. That's why they brought Mike McCarthy
in the first place, was to go win a super
Bowl because of his pedigree, and Green Band.
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Hadn't won a super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
So that's the tough thing about it is, you know,
as much as you want to say, like, yeah, yeah,
he was supposed to slip right in, I don't know, man,
everyone had to sour taste them out after that loss.
Speaker 5 (35:48):
I'm gonna say this, and I know I've been getting
labeled a hater lately. I just feel like I've just
been shooting it real from the hip and I'm gonna
do it once more. You have a team that isn't
an elite accomplishing team. I think it's safe to say that.
(36:09):
I think we know that they have a quarterback that
is is a second tier elite. I'll give him elite,
but I'll say second tier. He's not a first tier
elite quarterback in this league. When you say first tier
being an Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes, I'm not putting
(36:31):
Dak Prescott in that category.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
I'm just not.
Speaker 5 (36:36):
You have a super elite defend defender and Michael Parsons,
and maybe you do have some guys that you know,
the Trayvon Diggs will see how he, you know, pans
out coming back from his injury. You have some guys
that you can talk about on the defense. But all
(36:56):
in all, you know, if Jerry Jones and the Jones
family aren't keeping things going within the media, as we highlighted,
they have different spots him and his son Steven have
different spots on radio shows during the course of the week.
If they're not driving drama, if they're not selling drama,
(37:19):
why like, why else do we care about talking about Dallas?
Like imagine I could see us Like, Okay, Travis Kelsey
was just on stage. Now he's doing the rounds with.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
What's her name again, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
He's doing his rounds with Taylor Swift again, you know
who knows what does does Patrick Mahomes. I would think
that we would be more interested in finding out what's
going on in the off season with an elite team
like the Kansas City Chiefs. What's what's Andy Reid doing
right now? I'm curious what the hell right now would
(38:00):
Andy Reid be doing with his life right now?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
I would be curious to know about that. So in
a way, I almost feel like, you know, Mike.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
McCarthy should be happy that that Jerry Jones and company
know how to keep you know, his name in people's mouths.
You know, they should be happy that Jerry Jones knows
how to keep the Dallas Cowboys in their their players'
names in people's mouths. They should be happy because outside
(38:33):
of that, the body of work doesn't say that they
should be a play the Hits.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
Type of story in media. They're not.
Speaker 5 (38:43):
What's the relevance of the Dallas Cowboys outside of the
drama that takes place within the organizations.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
Since since McCarthy's gotten there, there's only three teams that
have more wins in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
Is that a regular season? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:58):
Regular season, which.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Again it's you've used that stab before, and it's completely
negated by the fact that like that wasn't what he
was brought in to do.
Speaker 2 (39:07):
I'm not sure that I haven't used that stab before.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
You definitely used that before. Us wise came off to talk.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
So, okay, can you Here's what I want to do.
I want to play a little game. We have some
game show music?
Speaker 1 (39:18):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Possibly some game show music? Today? Is too much to
ask for?
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Boy Shorts later day? All right, you pissed him off.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Your twenty twenty one regular season into twenty twenty two.
Can you guys describe for me how the Dallas Cowboys
season ended versus the San Francisco fort nine as the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
That was the Elliott got rand Hello.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
That was the they couldn't That was the blame, Kellen Moore,
because they couldn't get a playoff in time.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Zach correct, Maybe Dak Prescott was part of that. But
with fourteen seconds left on the Sam France Cisco forty one,
where you could have taken a shot definitely maybe two
to the end zone, which right, and instead Dak Prescott
ran up the middle and unfortunately the game ended with
him not being able to spike the ball.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
In time to stop the clock.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
So there was that controversial, surprising call, slash decision. Put
it on Kellen Moore, put it on Dak Prescott, whoever.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
But that was how that wanted. Now, that was fast forward.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
That was at home, right, that was at home. Yes,
that was at home.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Let's fast forward to the next season again, the Dallas
Cowboys getting balanced in a little tighter affair versus San
Francisco forty nine ers this time though in Santa Clara LeVar.
Speaker 4 (40:42):
Would you like to this.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Was the one where Ezekiel Elliott got obliterated on the
last way that.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Is correct, past six seconds left the game. The Dallas
Cowboys backed up in their own territory around the twenty
four yard line. They decided to run.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
Well, you kind of have to run in this position
where you're gonna have a lot of Yeah, it's a
desperation play, have a lot of skill guys out there.
There are some linemen, but it's a it's a funky formation.
Zeke Elliott's the center, and as dek Prescott gets the
ball drops back, zeke Ke Elliott gets absolutely blown up,
and so does Comante turpid by jimmy word for that matter.
(41:20):
So that is the end of Dallas that season.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Now do you think that that's part of the reason
why Zeke came back because they were like, you know,
we can't have you go out like that. That would
have been your last plage a cowboy. We got to
bring it back and do this right. So now he's
back and he's in the rotation for the Dallas.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
Probably probably that's one of them. And then it's past season.
Speaker 3 (41:37):
I'm sure you recant what happened against the green Bay package.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I think I got it too much. I know, I
know I got it. I think that Dallas got mutilated
by Green Bay and by the time they were able
to formulate anything on offense and get anything going, the
game was already way out of reach. But if you
look at the box score, I think Jake Ferguson had
a monster game. Then garbage time put the Cowboys.
Speaker 5 (42:02):
So there is and Aaron Jones did him?
Speaker 4 (42:07):
Did it them?
Speaker 2 (42:08):
They did it?
Speaker 4 (42:09):
Did it them? Did it them? How would you just
got you got?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (42:13):
Did it? You got? Did it like you know, like
an argument? Did the argument? It got? Did it like? Yeah?
D e A d E ed pay It's tense they
got did it? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Twenty seven to seven at halftime, a gigantic second quarter
by the Green Bay Package against the Dallas.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
I still believe that game went the way it went.
Like while it was happening, I was like, nah, it
is just no like they'll figure this out. There's no
way this is happening.
Speaker 4 (42:42):
I couldn't.
Speaker 3 (42:43):
It just got worse, and really it was twenty seven
nothing after a Dak Prescott interception that was returned by
Darnell Savage for a touchdown, So it kind of felt
worse than that, even though Dak let him on a
two minute drive before half for the touchdown to make
it feel closer. But it just there was never really
a point in time outside of the very very end
(43:05):
where Dallas started to creep back. But even then they
only got within I think a couple of scores.
Speaker 5 (43:09):
See, I thought it was the opening kickoff was the
only time they were in the game.
Speaker 4 (43:13):
That was kind of it.
Speaker 8 (43:15):
Damn.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
James Ferguson did have a ten catches, ninety three yards
and three touchdowns and none of it mattered. What a
waste of time. I do remember seeing Cowboys, so there
was like a couple like this guy and his goal
were sitting there in just total shock watching the game transpire,
and meanwhile, lead the Lap was just getting mangled watching
(43:38):
the watching his beloved Green Bay Packers taking out yeap, No, listen, man, guys.
Speaker 4 (43:44):
Rocks, how did you just end up in board shorts.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
Hot day out here in southern California yesterday?
Speaker 4 (43:53):
So you're wearing what you had on yesterday? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Okay, Like I said, I've.
Speaker 4 (43:59):
Been, uh, you dirty something.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
I've been surfing, so you know, sometimes.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
You were you really surfing?
Speaker 5 (44:05):
Yeah no, So so what you're saying is you were
in the ocean with those same shorts on that you
have on right now.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
No, it was CouchSurfing. Couch yeah, he at, he's a
couch surfing Okay, I mean, all right, I guess that's
a little better
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