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Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the NBA Draft is here and the Knicks trade for Mikal Bridges. The Panthers make a big mistake with the trade of Brian Burns. Plus, testy pressers and drunk pirates on “ICYMI.”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here coming up on
this Wednesday edition. That's right, the NBA Draft is here.
And not only is it here, it's here for two nights.
And not only is it here for two nights, it's
also being featured in our edition of Over Unders coming
up later on. We'll get into that for you here.
Plus we're gonna have a conversation about one team in

(00:22):
the NFL always being aggressive, another team in the NFL
always losing out on trades. We're also going to have
another edition of in case you missed it, the Old
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Speaker 2 (01:12):
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Speaker 1 (01:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:47):
Forgot the rest of the lyrics. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
I think you just make him up.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
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Speaker 5 (02:26):
You know it's one of those days where you were
reminded last night and I'm reminded again today there's not
much out there for sports, and it's a sad time.
It's a sad time. I was watching I was at
Copa America. I was watching a little bit of that
last night. Kind of surprise, Argentina. Couldn't you do a
little more?

Speaker 4 (02:44):
But you know, that's all we got, man, there's not
much out there.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I mean, you could watch the Cubs implode and some more.
I mean that's always fun, Like if I would have
recommend something for you so you can watch them. And
what's great about it is they could do it on
the West coast, they could do it in the Midwest,
the East coast, doesn't matter. Just a just an awful
baseball team.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
So there's there's that. That's uh, that's held me hostage
for a little while. You're Italians. Uh. They are onto
the round of sixteam, as we mentioned, with that win
a couple of days ago. So there is some stuff
out there, and again the ultimate sports condiment gambling. Just
throw a little bit of coin on it and it
makes everything that much more watchable. That's that would be

(03:26):
my recommendation for everybody out there. But all of that
does not apply to the major situation that is taking
place in the world of sports, the NBA Draft. Come on, baby,
action it is. It is kind of wild. I think

(03:49):
wild to think.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
The honestly, could you name over three and a half players?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Oh, without looking at my computer?

Speaker 4 (03:59):
No?

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
That's what I was I was watching. I was trying
to educate myself.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
So I was like watching some mock drafts last night
and I was like, Okay, there's so many international players,
especially there's some prediction that may go one two. I
was like, I just it's hard to get into this.
Like basketball obviously has become such a global sport, and unfortunately,
because of whether you want to call our our aau system,

(04:26):
you know what everyone appoints our developmental system, we're not
getting guys at younger ages who are coming up and
I looked at as being the top picks anymore, and
that's not that's not the case. It's guys now coming
from Europe as evidence of that in our league, watching
the guys win MVPs and potentially what may happen tonight.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's sort of like the draft has become a casualty
of the European influence because the European players, to your point,
whether it's Luca or Joker or Wembin Yama, like those
guys are stars and they're great to watch at the
pro level, but for an event like the draft, not
doesn't really help matters much when people don't know who
they are, Like it just doesn't matter. Like the NFL

(05:04):
draft takes over cities, like it takes over cities for
three days in a row. Green Bay is going to
get it next year. It's going to be a takeover.
They're running out of hotel rooms or like all of that.
The NBA draft just does not have that same effect,
Like there's just not And it used to be when
you would watch players come up through college and you
would see him play for two, three, four years at

(05:26):
the same place, you were kind of interested to see, hey,
where so and so going to go like like where
is he going to get drafted? Is he a lottery pick?
And then you take it from there. But nowadays, yeah,
to your point, the European influence, it's just not international wise,
it's just not the same, like it kind of it's
really sort of taking the starch out of the NBA draft,
which is unfortunate. I mean, you can still gamble on it,

(05:47):
and we'll try and throw some over unders together. But
that's where the the NBA draft stands now. Michel Bridges,
that was a big deal yesterday. Maybe I miss something,
all right, maybe, and this is something that I was
not aware of. But apparently mckel Bridges is worth a lot,

(06:08):
and by a lot, I mean a lot of picks
in exchange, as the Nets have sent mckel Bridges to
the New York Knicks with four unprotected first rounders coming
back in return, and I'm trying to figure out is
this all just a move to counteract what the Boston

(06:32):
Celtics have done. I know they were talking about a
wing presence and what he provides, but that's a lot
to give up in return for mckl bridges, who is
a good player, a nice player, also a durable player.
I don't think he's missed a game his entire career.
I think he's got like a close to six hundred
straight games played. So if you're a fan of anybody
anti load management, he would be your guy. But that

(06:54):
seems like a lot of picks to give up for
mckel Bridges in hopes that you've got enough to try
and contend with the Boston Celtics next year.

Speaker 5 (07:04):
So let's thinking about this last night. I mean, draft
picks aren't viewed all the same in every league. I mean,
in the NFL, they're coveted because if you find yourself
in a spot where you need a quarterback, wide receiver,
edge usher, tackle, you feel like you can grab a
guy in that top five, top ten spot or package
those first round picks to maneuver up even higher to

(07:25):
get that guy.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
Right. It's not really like that in basketball.

Speaker 5 (07:30):
I mean, look through the entire first round outside of
I mean, I guess by year coming out high school,
we would have said Lebron James. How many guys do
you look at every single year in the NBA draft
and say that is a franchise altering.

Speaker 4 (07:45):
Pick or selection? Not a lot.

Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean, we look at the NFL, we say that
almost every other year. Caleb Williams is viewed as a
generational talent. People who are comparing him to Patrick Mahomes,
which would you probably see that a little bit, but
look what Patrick Mahomes has done, He's got in the league,
and then that's at least how Caleb Williams is viewed.
I mean, the Chicago Bears moved off of a first

(08:10):
round pick a quarterback that looked like he was progressing
in justin fields. Once the game some weapons to say, no,
we're gonna go with the guy's never thrown in the
NFL before, and we feel like we have a better
chance of winning and building up our franchise with that
guy as opposed to the guy who's been here, even
though at some point we felt good enough to take

(08:31):
him in.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
The first round.

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Can I compliment you on something that you mentioned a
while back, your comp for Caleb Williams to Aaron Rodgers,
way to go, way to not be lazy and not
just do well. You know they've got, you know, something
in common, so let's go that direction. The fact that
you went Aaron Rodgers is your comp a little while back,
as opposed to the typical Patrick Mahomes. I was a

(08:53):
big fan of that.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Well, I mean, if we really want to go down
this path, I don't though that I gave a comp
because I hate comps.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
I hate when people do this. We talk about this
every year.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
I'm like, why can't we just view them in a
vacuum and say this player is this player. It's like, no,
we gotta like picture what would be like in the NFL.
It's like, all right, now, I'm gonna have to pull
through a rolldex of quarterbacks, some of which might have
played twenty years ago, and people are gonna be like, oh, yeah, okay,
I could see that.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, okay, I feel better about my team drafting him now.
It's just it doesn't make any sense to me. But
you get my point.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Like in the NBA, you can package all these these
draft picks up because you know what you have in
Michel Bridges, Like, you know how good he is, you
know what he means immediately walking in the door. And
I feel like there's even though there's elements of that
in the NFL with some of the veterans that that
move around, it's not viewed quite the same. I mean,

(09:48):
we could talk about, for example, you know, Brian Burns
in that trade between the Panthers and the Giants, and
obviously the Giants thought it was gonna cost more.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
The Panthers ended up not.

Speaker 5 (09:59):
There's there's time, and those picks are really valued and coveted,
and there's times when they're not, and and depending on
the League, and then.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
We got a technical difficulty.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
To be able to bring in a veteran guy who
he know is gonna help us win.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yeah, listen, look, I hope it works out for the Knicks.
You know, the the NBA would love nothing more than
for the Knicks to be a legitimate contender and to
be one of those teams that could challenge Boston in
the Eastern Conference. I think there was probably a little
bit of disappointment when Indiana was the was the team
that came out of that series and ended up going

(10:36):
to see Boston in the Eastern Conference finals. But I
just I look at it, and I know he's got
a contract that seems, you know, very very manageable. Over
the next couple of years, he was pretty coveted by
a lot of teams in the NBA. And again, he's durable.
He also meets all the qualifications, hard nos guy, and
he went to Villanova. So the fact that the Knicks

(10:58):
are going to land another Villanova prospect they are rivaling,
you know what is happening with Georgia players and the
Philadelphia Eagles. The Knicks in their Villanova love affair is
pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Here.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
I believe he's like the fourth player from Villanova on
that team. So nonetheless, congratulations to the New York Knicks
they get it done. Congratulations to the Nets. Who knows
what you got a bunch of lotto scratchers and we'll
see what they turn into. And then the NBA Draft
goes on later on tonight and we get to see
some players that nobody's probably ever heard of, you know,
for the majority of the people listening and watching to

(11:33):
try and change the fortunes of a franchise. It's fun.
So there's that, there's that coverage of the NBA Draft.
Now are you into it enough to want to throw
down a little bit on some overunders, because you know
the way I operate, Like, if we do over unders
and Lee puts together some picks, I'm probably gonna go
five for five or ten for ten. I don't know
if you want that smoke on a Wednesday morning, But

(11:55):
it's up to you. Pick a card, any card.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Yeah, for for the sake of the show, I'm willing
to do that. But I'm not actually gonna lay any
money on this. I don't know anything about the NBA Draft,
so I'm not gonna claim to know either.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Like all those w NBA fans out there, we've got
a hot take.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Yeah, there's there's all that. Do you think they could
if they wanted to spice this up? Could they move
it around a little bit the NBA Draft, like throw
it in some different cities as opposed to just you know,
continuing to run it out of New York like you know,
maybe maybe I.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
Don't think there's a big enough audience.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Yeah, is there.

Speaker 4 (12:28):
Do you feel like you're gonna get the same crowd
you got in Detroit? No?

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Absolutely not No in case, so why do you need
to move it around? Well, just like try and spice
it up a little bit, you know, like trying to so.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
The player's standpoint, though we've talked about this, there was
something that was nostalgic about going to New York.

Speaker 4 (12:44):
I mean for the NFL draft.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Like my family members who went for that trip to
see me get drafted, that will never go back to
New York City And that was their first and only
time and it was a cool experience for them. But
to think that, you know, you're gonna move it around
and get the same sort of wanted to you be copying
the NFL, which I don't think the NBA wants to do.
I mean only from maybe a business standpoint, but that's
about it. But the next thing to that would be

(13:09):
I just I don't think they get the same fanfare.
It almost would look worse because you would be directly
comparing yourself to the NFL and realize that you are
in second fiddle at best, maybe even.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Worse than that.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah, you know, it's like, you know, like standing in
a trough next to Dirk Diggler. Not a fun ride. Now,
I didn't want to have to get that. Well, listen,
you got to make sure everybody's paying attention. Did you
get the text from Lee? Just showcasing that he does
have proof that he was at the pub yesterday? As
if we needed proof that Lee was at the pub yesterday,

(13:42):
he did send over photographic evidence. I mean, it doesn't
really look like a pub, Lee. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 5 (13:49):
I've got no text from Lee. The only thing I
got from Lee he's yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:54):
Good, I've texted you twice now.

Speaker 4 (13:56):
I've allad got one.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Yeah, he sent over a uh, he sent over a picture.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
I mean, oh, sorry, different text. That was a group text.
Sorry sorry, Lee. Lee was claiming that I was having
technical issues, but I think I was just on mute.

Speaker 6 (14:09):
Maybe I'll agree that I was envisioning I would go
to a different pub. Did not go to the soccer
pub that's famous out here in the valley. I went
to a different pub. I forgot it was a pub.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yeah, it doesn't even look like a pub technically a pub.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
It's more it's it's a It was Taco Tuesday over
at this spot, so I went over there and stayed.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, good deal.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Hold on, let's just break this photo down, all right,
for those who can't see it. In the bottom left
of this photo, there's a woman sitting with a stanley
and it looks like a bunch of like papers dividers.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
It looks like more of an office space.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
There is a pretty clean and then above.

Speaker 5 (14:47):
Her are two TVs on a wall that looks like
it's it wasn't meant to be placed there, like someone
just decided to put the TVs up.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
And then the.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Bottom right there's just a random guy with a Harley
Davidson t shirt on. He looks like he's looking down
at something. Yeah, that's about it. I think it's a
very scantly decorated r F.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
It it looks like the waiting room at a car dealership.
To be honest with you, there's not it. It's too
clean to be a pub. And that's a fair And
when I think when I think about pubs, I think
low ceilings, kind of like a little bit dark. This
is way too lit up to be a pub.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
See he's placed in spots where people can look at them.
Both of these people have their backs to the TV.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
They literally could not care less. So there's two live
sporting events going on.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Did you have the worst taste in what you call
quote unquote pubs of anyone we know?

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Like I said, it was not where I envisioned watching
a good, uh soccer match.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
But talk with Tuesday. We went to twenty different spots
in Dublin, Ireland, like pubs Central, and you chose like
the Kia dealership off some of Pulvit or to watch
a soccer game at come on just tires.

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Yeah, I agree, you know what I did, bad job
by me. But when you got five dollars marks and
five dollars shots and two dollars tacos and they just
reintroduced past store tacos there. It was the first time
there was a.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Five dollars shot at good price.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
Now, yeah, especially it was either Patron or Don Julio
or your choice.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
I'm a Don.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Juld guy myself, but I'm sorry for everyone out there. Man,
I don't know how things got this way. Yeah, it's
that's ridiculous. A five dollars shot.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
I know.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
That's why you got a flask, man.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
You got to bring a flask and was ahead of
the curve.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
I mean the other issue was like, what if you're
hearing shots different than what you have in the flask?

Speaker 6 (16:39):
Okay, Pinky's up, Brady.

Speaker 4 (16:46):
There's so much just like a smorgasboard.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Huh you really just you're you're excited to wake up
the next morning feeling hungover.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
I'm ashamed. I have a story that I'm not even
I can't even say on air.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Why not?

Speaker 6 (16:57):
It's pretty bad?

Speaker 1 (16:59):
What do you mean?

Speaker 4 (17:00):
I'm sure?

Speaker 1 (17:01):
All right?

Speaker 6 (17:01):
This was the other day during the weekend. Uh god,
I'm gonna say this. Can we tease it?

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Or what do you like? Do you think this is?

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Yeah, Lee, Lee, give Jonas a chance that.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
She tease this.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Okay, all right, I mean listen, it is phenomenal. Yeah,
it is radio formatic. So let me think I've got
to really sell this one.

Speaker 4 (17:19):
Here.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
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We are going to tell you about how somebody in
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You will hear that coming up here again a little
over twenty minutes from now. So we do have another
NFL story that might maybe say shed's a little bit

(19:12):
of light on how poorly run one organization is in
the NFL that we were going to get to. But
Lee to Lap did did promise us a story that
he is I don't know. Are you embarrassed to retell
this on the air?

Speaker 6 (19:25):
What's the well, I was being shamed by it by
the friends at the pub yesterday.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
Talk so that specific pub that you showed us a picture.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
Of specifically, Yeah, and I sent you an updated photo
from said pub.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Were any of those people in said pub? Your friends
that we saw in the photo?

Speaker 6 (19:42):
All the people you see in this photo that I
just sent you were there yesterday?

Speaker 4 (19:46):
I met the first photo.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
They what about them? They were there yesterday and they
were the ones.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
So the lady and the other guy who isn't paying attention?
Tho are they part of it?

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Oh no, they were not. They probably had some turnovers.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, for the sake of the audience, can you crop
them out of the picture and then tweet it out
so everyone sees this car dealership you were at watching
soccer again?

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Sure?

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah, I can do that absolutely.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
How old is this photo?

Speaker 6 (20:11):
Halloween?

Speaker 4 (20:12):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (20:13):
You can see by the severed head hanging above the table.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
Yes, that would actually do it. That meant the cob web.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
Like a real pub would have had an actual severed head,
but imposter pub that's got a fake one just.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
To paint the picture even more. Lee's facial facial.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
Expression is like one of those where you open up
your mouth to go. Hey, the photo that is exactly
how I described Lee's facing this.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
It's along with the Halloween.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
It looks like it looks like one of those clowns
at a carnival. It's got a balloon over its head
that you shoot water and do.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
That's how I do my photo.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I was gonna say that is a Lee a very least.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
All right, So what happened?

Speaker 6 (21:04):
So I was pretty proud of this, uh, of this
liquor store deal that I was being shamed for yesterday
They're saying, hey, man, the moltz uh might be growing
too far into the skull there because I was gonna get,
you know, a half pint of Smeerenoff for eight ninety nine.
Instead I found a handle of seagrums for nine ninety nine.

(21:24):
So I said, oh, deal's a deal, and so what's
the problem now, I don't I don't see a problem
with it. But I was, uh, you know, I was
keeping that deal to myself, I suppose.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
And people were shaming you because you went seagrums instead.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
Of instead of schmov, Like schmerov is anything special?

Speaker 4 (21:42):
But is it smearof or schmeerno?

Speaker 6 (21:44):
I would say schmear but it might be smear.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
I mean whatever, no s h or h or before
you know, after the s that's.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
True, smearof it. Just it doesn't sound right. I gotta
say schmeerenof.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Like by the way, the fact that that's like the
big debate that was being had dollar more.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
That does be a lot more to the story.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Who told you that the company you keep has cut
to missus? That's their problem, not the fact that you
were day drinking, not the fact that you wore board
shorts for like twenty seven hours straight, the fact that
you actually made the proper purchase from an economical standpoint,
but because it was seagrums and not smearing off, they're

(22:30):
upset with you about it.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
More than twice as much for a dollar Brady, what
did you say he needs to do?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Like a couple of weeks ago?

Speaker 5 (22:37):
What was the Oh no, I sincerely mean this like,
you need an event in your life to occur to
force you to have to mature.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
You need to have a kid.

Speaker 6 (22:46):
Hey man, I'm racing for rock bottom. Baby, let's go.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
We're almost there, cheese. I'm not putting it that way.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
I'm just saying you need something to be interjected in
your life. Like I need to rescue a puppy or
a stray dog something. It's going to force you to
have to alter some of the things you're doing in
your freet.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, because it's over.

Speaker 6 (23:06):
I had a real dark thought yesterday, but I don't
know if I want to say it out loud, because
then I put in the universe. But my dog's getting old.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
And I was like, I don't say it.

Speaker 6 (23:16):
I know I'm not gonna do.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
It with with with the way you any of your
out's gone. I'm sure he'll make an appearance in the
next couple of weeks, since we're apparently celebrating uh, deceased
people now. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
Oh, by the way, I'm reshaping the mullet today. I
gotta I'm gonna see Chewy later today.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Yeah, you need to get a kid, dude, like that,
I mean something.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
I mean, I don't know that I would recommend you
where you're at right now for adoption, but you know,
maybe at some.

Speaker 6 (23:45):
Point Judge says no way.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
But you know, ah, man, the freedom of being single
with no kids. Man, the good old days. It is
two pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox
Sports Radio, Brady Quinn Jonas Knocks with you, all right?
So you mentioned mentioned this, and it's actually pretty funny.
The apparently the Giants thought it was going to cost

(24:07):
them a lot more to get Brian Burns in a
trade from the Carolina Panthers that was revealed. And is
this like this preview of hard knocks? Are they still
trying to do this like this is like some reality
show a situation. There was cameras and apparently they thought
they were going to have to pay a little bit
more to get Brian Burns and they actually got from
the Carolina Panthers. So the moral of the story is,

(24:30):
if you want to get a really good player from
the Carolina Panthers, don't worry. They'll accommodate you and they'll
give it to you at a rock bottom price. Because
I had forgotten completely about this until I saw an
article that was written up on it yesterday that they
actually were trying that the La Rams were trying to

(24:53):
get Brian Burns a few years back, and the Rams
offered a first round pick in twenty twenty four, a
first round pick in twenty twenty five, and a second
round pick in twenty twenty five, and the Panthers said no,
he's untradeable. We'd like to keep him only to what
less than two years later give him up for the Giants.

(25:13):
Give him up to the Giants for what they gave
him up for. It's just another example of the Carolina
Panthers being the worst situation in the NFL. And I
don't know, if you're a Panthers fan, how you deal
with knowing all the talent you've given up at rock
bottom prices. Very yeah you.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
From the clip that we saw, which I will admit this,
I mean I wasn't sure what to make of who's
actually doing it? Is the Netflix? Is it HBO? Who's
doing the off season?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
And I believe it's HBO?

Speaker 5 (25:44):
Okay, so at HBO. I believe that's correct. Wasn't sure
what to make of what it was going to be.
But it does take you behind the scenes of what
goes on these conversations, and it does present a potential
angle to make one organization look good one look bad,
because I mean, look that the Giants thought they were
going to get Brian Burns for two second round picks

(26:04):
ended up being a second and a fifth. So for
that price, you're going heck yeah, man, like the Giants
won that, and then from the outside that's all we know,
you know, we don't know what it's worth. I mean,
a lot of people look back on remember the Antonio
Brown trade or the Raiders, you know, got Antonio Brown.
I want to say, it was like a second and
a fifth as well, something like that. Yeah, and then
come to find out he's never gonna going to play

(26:26):
a down for the Raiders because he you know, burned
his feet in the cryo chamber and then the helmet
wouldn't fit right or whatever went on between him and
John Gruden. And then then the video comes out, the
wrap video of him and John. It's like the whole
thing was such a disaster. You go, Yeah, Actually, I
think the second and the fifth for Pittsburgh was a
pretty good deal.

Speaker 4 (26:43):
It was a pretty good deal.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Is that the last great Hard Knocks? The Antonio Brown meltdown?

Speaker 5 (26:48):
I mean, probably which a kid had nothing to do Like,
that's if you started.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
To see the beginning of the end for hard Knocks.

Speaker 5 (26:55):
They had nothing to do with training camp, had to
do with a guy who was not in training camp,
and he wasn't there for the most ridiculous reasons you
could ever imagine, which made it even more entertaining, like
this is this is real life. There was times when
I remember hearing stories about the conduct in the NFL,
how players are, how people are, and it's hard to believe.
When you see these shows, you're like, oh, this is

(27:16):
like dramatized right, like this is not actually like this. No,
there are things where out they're actually like this, Like
there is the craziest stuff you could ever imagine going
hot at times, and it is put into a TV film,
you know, r film and you get to see it.
And that was one of those examples. But back to
the Giants, you know, they get Brian Burns another piece

(27:38):
for their defense.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
It doesn't cost them as much as they think.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
And to your earlier point, it once again takes a
crap on David Tepper's Carolina Panthers and their organization, which
is unfortunate because you know, you'd wish you could kind
of build them up more and feel like they've got
a shot. But of any of the teams this year
going into the year and maybe just how their offense
looked last year, or they're in a constant state of disarray.

(28:05):
It feels like with our owner walking into various restaurants
to you know, confront people about their hats and signs outside.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
It's like, I don't know where this team is going
to go this year. But even just the.

Speaker 5 (28:16):
Offseason, when no one's playing games, you don't feel good
about the Carolina Panthers in their direction moving forward.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
So I look at it, and I also think this
clearly so Scott Fitterer was the GM when he passed
up on, you know, the trade that could have gotten
you know, the two first round picks and a second
round pick from the Rams. And then he was clearly
the GM for the DJ Moore trade. I believe Christian
McCaffrey happened before he got there, but it might have

(28:45):
taken place while he was there as well too. But
I guess my point is, so when you see all
of these moves take place, he's the one who you
would look at and go, well, what's the GM doing?
But this feels like David Tepper's got his fingerprints all
over this, because I can't imagine that Scott Fitterer what
wanted to reject, you know, two first round picks and

(29:08):
also reject a second round pick in return for Brian Burns.
Did he really want to also add Dj Moore in
the trade to move up that ultimately and resulted in
them taking Bryce Young. Did he really want to get
rid of you know, Christian McCaffrey, Like, it just feels
like there are moves that are made that I don't
know that everybody in the organization is all in on,

(29:30):
except for maybe the owner, Like I'll bet I'd be
willing to bet Scott Fitterer probably didn't want to get
rid of Frank Reich probably didn't want to get rid
of him in season and realize, Man, if we do
this again, this is going to set us back even further.
Why go down this road? And yet it was David
Tepper who got involved, And I mean.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
Isn't that why they are where they are with Dave
Canallis being there. I mean, supposedly it wasn't Bryce Young
who maybe the coaching staff wanted, It was David Tepper
who wanted him right, which now makes a lot of
sense in retrospect looking at how Josh Vaccount had handled
the CJ strowd of workout. Remember the video that came out.

(30:10):
You can hear the audio of you know, Josh Baccount
talking about you know, playing and playing against them all
stuff maybe a basketball or something. Yeah, well, now it
leads you to think, okay, wait a second, maybe that's
what that was, what the coaching staff was and how
they felt about it.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
There was also that the story that I think we
all kind of had a little bit of fun with it.
But there was you know, Frank Reich and you know
he didn't want to coach small quarterbacks or something like that.
It was like you'd never had a quarterback that was
under a certain height or whatnot. Like you just like
you start to look back on all that and you go, oh, man,
like David Teffer really did overrule everything here there.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah, rude, which you know, I'll be the first to
admit I was really high on price Young, you know,
despite his size, despite all of that watching from college
and what he did and how he kind of elevated
even Alabama, which at a time a lot.

Speaker 4 (30:59):
Of people are like, how do you ad Alabama? They
you know, they didn't want to, you know, national championship.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
It's like, well, they were actually devoid of a lot
of things that some of the opponents had. You know,
LSU has had a better run of wide receivers than Alabama,
at least of late, and if you want to challenge that,
go ahead. But look what they've done between Justin Jefferson
and Jamar Chase Malik neighbors whose draft from the first round.
They'll continue to have some of those guys as well.

(31:24):
There's been other you know, high draft picks as well.
And it's it's not a knock on Alabama, it's just
that's been that's been the run of late. And when
you're looking at like, well Bryce shn' get at college,
he kind of elevated the play of everyone around him,
and so I thought, okay, like right system, right, the
right circumstance, and Frank Reich who's former quarterback, and all

(31:44):
those things kind of connected you to like he's going
to have a great opportunity. I didn't even know start
right away. I really thought it be Andy Dalton. And
looking back on last season, it probably should have been
Dalton for a longer portion of the year so they
could allow Bryce to feel more comfort with that. And
when you saw the one game Andy Dalton played, I
think you threw for like the most yards of any

(32:05):
quarterback that year. I just it's it's a it's tough, man,
I mean, you hate to beat a dead horse in
the Carolina Panthers and how they are viewed. But what's
come out so far in this offseason little docu series
isn't helping their case.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah, it's a bad look. It is Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio and
coming up next here from these tire rack dot Com studios,
we are going to tell you about how somebody may
have burned a bridge and one fan base in the
world of sports is not happy. It's yours. Next year on.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
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Speaker 1 (32:47):
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(33:08):
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Speaker 2 (33:25):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing, the guys are here to
bring you in case you missed it, and.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
For that we turn it over to our executive producer,
Lea lap.

Speaker 6 (33:41):
Good morning Fellas, Good morning Jonas, Good morning Brady.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Guys.

Speaker 6 (33:45):
In case you've missed Tennessee winning the College World Series,
Hey LeVar, good to see buddy, guys. In case you
didn't miss Tennessee beating Texas A and M in the
College World Series, you might have also missed the the
Texas A and M baseball coach Jim Schlasnagel taking the
job at Texas. Now that's newsworthy on its own, but

(34:07):
you might have missed a little back and forth he
had with the reporter following the loss, which is newsworthy
now because of how he reacted to a question about
his interest in that job at Texas coach with respect
of the difficult outcome tonight, but with the rumor circulating
today about a specific job opening, what you have to
say about your future and Aggi Land.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty selfish of you
to ask me that question, to be honest with you,
but I left my family to be the coach at
Texas A and M. I took the job at Texas
A and M to never take another job again, and
that hasn't changed in my mind. That's unfair to talk

(34:49):
about something like that. They'd be like you asking Montgomery
if he's going to sign in the draft. But I
understand you got to ask the question. But I gave
up a big part of my life to come take
this job. And I've poured every to my soul in
this job. And I've given this job every single ounce.

Speaker 6 (35:03):
I can possibly give it.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Write that, well, yep, and what happened next? So what
do you so?

Speaker 1 (35:17):
How do you counteract this? Like? Do you just not
respond to the question? Do you not like like, like,
what's the go to here?

Speaker 5 (35:26):
My go to is honesty and I think the toughest
thing about that is in life, the timing is almost
never right, I mean, not at least perfect. And so
in this case, obviously someone knew what was happening behind
the scenes, and he wasn't ready to focus on that
and deliver a statement on that.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
And so, you know, I just.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
It's always tough because had he just came out and said,
talked about all the accomplishments, everything, durious time of text
and m thanked them and it said, but I'm taking
this opportunity.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
Here's why.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
You know, it's a little more digestible now now you
just look like a jackass, to be.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Honest, because he really went above and beyond. He brought
in his family, his commitment. He was he was disrespected
by the question.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
I'll put it this way, Like I had heard when
I was in high school that my high school coach
was leaving to take another job, and so myself and
my best friend and receiver like went over and.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
We literally confronted him.

Speaker 5 (36:34):
Now, mind you, when we were young and naive to
the fact that he was in his Like he was like, oh, hell.

Speaker 4 (36:41):
Send him on the up, send him on up.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
We go to his master bedroom, he's painting the bedroom,
you know, and it's summertime, so you're not really sure
what to make of it. But we're like, hey, coach,
you know, we heard some rumors that you're, you know,
going to another team. You gotta take this another job.
And he goes, men, men, look at me right here,
look at me. You take those rumors. You put them
on a shelf. And I was like, oh, okay, that's
pretty reassuring, like he doesn't selling, he's going anywhere, all right, thanks,

(37:04):
coach man, sorry to bother you. Good luck with paying
the house and all that. By the way, why why
are you paying the house looks nicely? Oh you know,
we just gotta fresh up some things here this summer.
And we must have gotten our car and drove away,
and he just put the for sale sign in his
yard right then and there, I mean, lie dead to.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
Our face and like it was no need to. He
could have just.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Been honest and said, you know what, boys, this is
best for me and my family. I'm taking another job,
going elsewhere, and instead blatantly lied. And I just remember
after that point, I really did have this this inability
to trust, like I always had a sense of cynicism
because I never wanted to truly trust a coach's intention
for this kind of stuff. There's no reason to lie.

(37:42):
It could have just been honest about it. But like, yeah,
I'm take another job. We can have a new coach
at some point. Sorry, but it's best for me and
my family. It's understandable.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
I mean, you know, Mark Crabtree was there another twenty
years though, so at.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Least Mark is actually the coach that came in after us,
So it was not Mark.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Well, I was very fortunate and blessed to be a
to be coached by a coach Crabtree I've listened to.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
I mean, I call him krab but he was there
twenty years, so.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
No one calls him crab. No one calls him crowded too.
Don't do that what we love coach.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
Listen, I love him too. Like we're talking Dublin Kaufman
High Football here, like like this is my wheel? What
are you talking about again?

Speaker 5 (38:18):
People on Twitter X whatever we're calling it these days,
just please unleash whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I can't listen to. I can't cele so I can't
celebrate a twenty year run of success from our Crabtree
at Dublin Kaufman. I, I mean what else we got, lee, guys.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
In case you missed this fun story out of Pittsburgh,
a thirty eight year old man faces charges of theft
by unlawful taking, receiving stolen property, and defiant trespassing, all
for allegedly stealing an eighty two foot yacht in hopes
of uh meeting up with some Pittsburgh Pirates players. Uh
didn't know how to turn the yacht on, but did
float it down the river. That's a good thing, uh,

(38:57):
before he was taken into custody. Didn't end up meeting
any Pittsburgh pirates, but now he might be able to
call himself a Pittsburgh pirate.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Wow, you know what.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Innocent on all charges just for the creativity alone, all right.

Speaker 5 (39:11):
So his premise was he just wanted to meet up
with Pittsburgh privates.

Speaker 6 (39:15):
Yeah, he was intoxicated at the time, but he wasn't.
He didn't face any charges of uh what.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
Do you call it?

Speaker 6 (39:21):
Not du I have a buy?

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Do you call it that? I don't know, boating under
the influence? Yeah.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
We actually had a player when I was with the
Browns who had asked a question about a driver Service
and he's like, well, do you guys drive boats too,
and guys like we've never come across this.

Speaker 4 (39:35):
Why He's like, we would be dumb enough to get
a dui on a boat and he was like, yeah,
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
The way I mean it really is just a great move, Like, hey, man,
I want to meet a Pittsburgh pirate. What are you
gonna do? You're gonna wait outside the stadium, fat man,
I'm gonna steal. I'm gonna steal a boat and float
it down the river.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Yacht dude, Yeah, that's not a.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Boat, that's a yacht. We talked about this the other day.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Can we get him on as a guest please? We've
got follow ups here, I'll get him
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