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bit different. Okay, there's a lot of people out there
that are kind of weighing in on who had the
best draft in the NBA in Night one, I would
like to try something different. Here's my thoughts on the draft.
I don't know. I don't know I had the best draft.
I really have no idea because I have no idea how.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
To You'd have to believe.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
You'd have to believe that whoever has the first the
first pick, did it well in the NBA draft's I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know what I know about the NBA. I know
the Celtics are the world champs. That's what I know,
and that's that's that's what I'm gonna go with. I
have no idea whether or not the Nicks and the
moves that they've made mckel Bridges being added to the roster.
I mean it seems like a good fit. You gave
up four unprotected picks for it. Uh, that seems like
a lot for mckel Bridges. But you know, everybody is
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celebrating that. I have no idea what any of these
guys are going to pan out, what they're going to do,
what it's going to pan out to, Like, I have
no clue whatsoever. But here's what I O. Well, I
was gonna say this, and you kind of alluded to this.
As much as we want to kind of pooh pooh
and dismiss the Brownny James angle to all this stuff,
(03:07):
I will say this, it has made it a little
bit more intriguing the whole thing. Like we may not
like it, we may not. Look we probably didn't like
LeVar Ball and everything that he was doing when it
came to Lonzo Ball and all this stuff that, but
it did add a little bit of intrigue to it,
Like there was something that it added. And while Bronnie
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James is sitting there and there's the chance, although I
do think he's going to be drafted, but there is
the chance, and who knows it wouldn't be the craziest
thing in the world. If he doesn't get drafted later tonight,
it is all of a sudden made the second round
of the NBA Draft that much more watchable, and I
would argue probably a better storyline than some of the
storylines we saw in the first round.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Of the draft. Well, I mean, he's the storyline of
the draft.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, and so it's interesting. It's quite the phenomenon when
you really think about it. And by the way, Dolton,
how you say his name neck neckt connect connect, Yeah,
that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Everybody thinks that that was the still of the draft
so far.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Like that's just like an amazing, amazing pick for the Lakers.
But nonetheless, the headlines continue to be dominated by Bronnie
James coming into it, Bronnie James during it, Bronnie James
coming out of it, Bronnie James. And it's going to
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be interesting if his name gets called. What will that
What will that look like? What will the scrutiny and
the criticisms or the lotting and the praising or both.
What will that look like? If he goes undrafted? What
does that look like? How is that covered? I think
he continues he will ca continue to move the needle
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on the relevance of this draft, which to me, seeing
all of these G league.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And foreigners.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Being drafted, it just says to me, I mean, what
does that What does that mean to the relevance of
the NBA? Do you have to call into question the
relevance because if you have legitimate prospects and and that
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coverage is legit as well, you don't have to depend
on gimmicky types of things in order to make what
it is that you're doing, keep it, keep it entertaining,
and keep it legit. You don't have to do it.
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And that was kind of for me. One of my
takeaways is the fact that Brownie James is such the
big story, the driving story why I think we all
know is talented as the young man is and as
much potential as he may have, he's not one of.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The top prospects. No, I don't even know that he's talent. Listen.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
In order to be able to make it into the NBA,
you have got to be so so.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So gifted and things have to go your way.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
So for him to be in a position that he's in,
there's no harm in that at all, none, But there's
this big, big storyline that just kind of continues to persist.
And it's probably it's just one hundred percent based off
of Lebron James. But to me, I don't feel as though,
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even with Lebron James being as big a figure to
the NBA that he is and to sports that he is,
that the NBA should be so in my estimation, this
might offend some people, but should they be? Should the
NBA be so irrelevant? And it's and it's relevant that
Bronnie James is the biggest storyline and the biggest prospect
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and the most talked about prospect in this year's draft.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean it's look, if you want to like, the
NFL doesn't have this problem. Right, As we mentioned, college
football is so big and so massive that we know
who these guys are, so the coverage and the visibility, Like,
that's what makes the NFL Draft what it is. You've
got the two biggest sports, the NFL and college football.
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And I say sports, you know, two different leagues, but
the two biggest in this country all in the same night.
Which is why the NFL Draft has grown and grown
and grown and become as massive as it is. And
I look at it, and I go, well, if you
needed visibility and you needed something recognizable to make the
draft more interesting despite where he falls in the mock
(08:09):
drafts and the rankings on everybody else, Bro, Like, I
would argue, like that name is more recognizable than any
other name in the entire draft, like the entire draft,
and the guy might go fifty five in the whole.
So if you're trying to, if you're solve in your
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fixed to bring more notoriety to the NBA draft is
what we need. More visibility. This should be a lesson
to the NBA and maybe to college basketball figure out
a way to start marketing these guys better. Because Lebron
James has sort of done it his own way and
and sort of marketed, and he's done it through the
media with the help of the media. But it like
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people are gonna be watching tonight and they're gonna be
watching tonight because of that, and and he's where he's
gonna end up.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I just be honest, weren't weren't we watching last night
because of that?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah? And I think once people realize when you got
late in the I you know what, you know what?
You bring up A good point though, I would love
to see what the ratings are night one and Night
two of the NBA Draft, because it would not surprise.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Me if they're higher tonight because you're hoping or you're
you're waiting to see is he going to get draft?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Because because it's a storyline, like when people and look,
Brady's talked about this before when he was waiting in
the draft room, and that became the story of that draft,
like Aaron Rodgers waiting in the draft room, like like, hey,
where's he going to end up? Like who's going to
take him? You know, a player that maybe goes late,
Like this storyline is going to be where does Brownie
James go? Because there's some people that are like, man,
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the Celtics are picking one spot ahead of the Lakers.
What if they just stuck it to him and took
Lebron's son and made him a Celtic just because hey,
why not? You know, we'll throw him on our G
league team. We'll let him, you know, let him work
there a little bit. There are some people that think
he can play defense a little bit in the league,
and maybe that's a possibility, but there's enough added to
it that I would not be surprised if the number
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was better from a viewing standpoint tonight than it is
for last night in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I just gotta be honest.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
And I know i've you know, y'all called me a hater,
and I know I come across as a hater, but
I'm not a hater. I just I just say it
how I see it. If that means I'm hating, that
means I'm hating, I don't know. I just I just
say what I feel, and I feel what I say.
I walk my walk, I talk my walk. And this
is what I say about Bronnie James. I just said it.
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I think he's a talented basketball player. I think he
has a ton of potential. But I think if we're
looking at prospects and what this NBA draft looks like,
there's not very many people, if any, that will get
drafted that if Bronnie James weren't to get drafted, that
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you'd be like, he would have been a better pick
than this guy.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
He would have been a better pick than that guy.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I do not think that his level of accomplishment and
achievement connected to his talent level, says draft grade. I
do not, and and so to me, I think the
bigger storyline here is because there has been this consistence
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he shouldn't have been he shouldn't have been a McDonald's
All American. Jonas like he shouldn't have played in the game.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
He said.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You heard Papa Daykin say, like you had dudes that
were ranked higher than him in the CIF and they weren't.
They weren't in the game. But Bronnie James was in
the game.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
By the way, how close were you to be in
a McDonald's All American in basketball?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I didn't even I didn't play in my senior year.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But had you play your senior year, how close would
you have been a McDonald's All American.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Uh? No, No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I could have gotten close, though.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I mean I was. I was good.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
I was good enough to be Probably if I went
in the college, I would have been like a sixth man,
seventh man, maybe eighth. I'd have been like an eighth
man on the bench.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I would have been a ninth. But again, you know,
we're just splitting airs here.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Here's the reality, man, is that you have to live
in reality, because if you don't make it so that
you have to live in reality, I think one of
the biggest, the biggest fails in all of this is
actually creating this false sense of reality around Brownie James.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Again, I gotta do my job.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I gotta say it the way I say it, and
I got to feel the way I feel about it.
I just don't think that it has now come to
where the rubber meets the road of all of this.
You can create all of the hype, you can pay
for it, you can leverage it however you want to
call it, whatever you want to do. I mean, I
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don't know that, and this might sound hard, but should
he have been a Division one basketball player? I've seen
a ton really no, listen, I've seen a ton a
ton of really really really Like if you're listening to
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our show right now, and you watch basketball, and you
watch high school basketball, and if you watch summer leagues
and stuff like that, you and I both.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Know you have seen dudes.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
That are crazy, crazy gifted, crazy crazy talented and did not.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Go Division one. Did not.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And to me, when you look at it, sure he's
going to get every benefit of the doubt, and there's
nothing wrong with that. Legacy calls for that. But when
you also look at what you earn. That's ultimately what
it comes down to. I don't that he went to
a school, a Division I school, but now you got
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to prove why you're there. The hype can't continue to
carry you through what got you there, right, Like, I mean,
let's be clear if you got there because of something else,
but yet your stats don't represent it, like okay, well,
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you know he he had to deal with, you know
what he dealt with health wise, this, that and the other. Like, okay,
he played twenty five games. It was twenty six point
seven from three point sixty seven from sixty seven, point
six percentage from free.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Throws, probably better than his dad had.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Had two point eight rebounds, had two point one assists,
a point two block, which I don't know what the
hell that means. A point eight still, which I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's a point two blog like a half sack in football.
Like him and another guy both got a hand on it.
They're like, all.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Right, so you're averaging four point eight points, averaging two
point eight rebounds, averaging two point one in assists, and
your thirty six point six in field goal percentage and
what world and what world even? Like I had all
(15:29):
of this like you had, you have all of this
to say about Bronnie James. Bronnie James is Bronnie James
at and he gets to USC and he plays, and
those are your stats. You've done nothing to dispel anyone
who has said he's not deserving of the attention that
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he's receiving, and statistically speaking, you would be right. I
don't think if you take Bronnie name off of that
and you said jonas draft prospect for this year's draft
to twenty twenty four NBA draft, we got prospect a
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who averaged four point eight points, two point eight rebounds,
two point one assists, and had a thirty six point
six field goal percentage. What would you say to that
as a draft, as an NBA draft pop prospect, no
name attached to it, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I would say, he's probably playing overseas, but is gonna
get draft?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Is he even playing overseas?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, I don't know everybody's gonna I just.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Don't how many.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Like, let's take if we were to take all of
the other statistical if we were to take these same
stats and we align them, how do you make it
make sense? How do you make it make sense the
last name exactly, But again the point I'm making. The
point I'm making is if you're going to leverage the
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last name, then he at least has to do his
part and perform. You at least have to make it
where the argument and the discussion is legitimized by what
it is that the achievement and accomplished level of what
he's doing. Once he's gotten there, it has to be
aligned with the hype that was used in order for
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him to be where he's at to begin with.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Who do you think had a more decorated career at USC,
Bronnie James or the homeless guy that snuck into practice
and was fielding punts.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I mean, some could argue the homeless guy because how
do you how the hell do you get that far right?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
How the hell and get coverage from it?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
You know, I'm just saying, because if you're Brodnie James,
you had the entire world in front of you, You
had everything set up for you. And again I'll say,
the caveat is he had the health scare. I get that,
but he returned and he played. Are we using that
as the caveat for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Draft yeah, but the home the hopeless guy is sleeping
on a Domino S box. I mean think about behind
a dumpster. I mean that's more.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Impressive and got up and went to work. Yeah, okay,
just like I.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Saw Hey right now, I saw your post, so I'm
not I'm not really in on this. Just so you know,
I'm you know, homeless people are people too. I saw
your posts on a GI I get it. Oh, the
homeless people can look good and dress good and go
to work. You know this one happened to be good
enough to go Phil Punts for USC Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
What's wrong on that? Listen down down time for the
program and something wrong with that? You know it happens. Well,
we'll get to watch and see where Ronnie.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
James ends up.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
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What's Happening, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So we were curious because we were discussing this earlier
this week, this report that came out that Mike McCarthy
is fed up, and I think Tyler Dunn was the
reporter who came out with it, that Tyler that Mike
McCarthy's a little bit fed up with the situation in Dallas.
There are people there who think that, you know, every
players you know are going more towards Jerry and that
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he's basically just this typical drama that comes with the Cowboys.
My question for you is this, I haven't heard Mike
McCarthy or anybody else dispel any of that stuff. So
does that tell you that there was some validity to
the report from Tyler Dunn?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Now, I mean it tells me everybody's off for the
summer right now. You know, I think you'll probably hear
Mike McCarthy shoot the report down. Now, that doesn't mean
it's not true, but you know, whenever he's available again,
which I would think would be right to start a
training camp, it'll probably be addressed and you know, he'll
deny that ever a problem, and then if they win,
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then you know, everybody lacks like nothing ever happened. And
if they lose, then we'll reprise it like everything else.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Look, I mean like this is a complicated situation. The
Cowboys are in all the way around. I mean, they
have three high profile maybe the three best players in
our team in contract situations with Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb
and Micah Parsons. And they've got a head coach and
his staff, most of his staff going into contract years.
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They're also turning over part of the staff where Dan
Quinn's off to Washington, and there is the new defensive coordinators.
So you know, like there's just a lot of moving
parts there. And you know the fact that Mike McCarthy's
won twelve games three years in a row, and as
in this position where everyone's constantly talking about his job security,
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I'm sure it's frustrating to him. On the flip side,
I mean, I had heard going into the playoffs last
year that McCarthy didn't just have to make the best
and had to look good in the playoffs to hold
on to his job. Obviously, that didn't happen because they
didn't look great and their only playoff game against Screen Bay.
So I think, you know, it's it's not a real
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surprise to anybody that we're talking about his job status.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Oh wow, that's that's interesting. It would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I'm curious to see if it comes out differently as
as we move forward, if this pops back.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Up, let's let's go to Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
How Anthony Richardson that the GM comes out and says,
you know, it's just arm, shoulder fatigue, nothing to be
concerned about.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
He's full go, and that's fine. But to me, why
even say it?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I think that that's kind of the big question here
is why even say it? If he's full go, if
there's nothing to worry about, no concerns, no nothing, why
even say you know it's due to shoulder fatigue and
nothing no problem data. Don't use that and especially don't say, well,
we're extra sensitive around here about shoulders and stuff like that. Like,
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I just feel like these guys could answer questions a
little bit better than what they do.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
But why even say it in this moment?
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I think in this case, you know, Chris is trying
to be honest, you know, and I think his experience
of going through it with Andrew Locke, and you remember
what a complete bleep show that became, where it was
he's coming back, He's not coming back. You know, where
you get yourself in trouble is when you mislead people
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on things like this. And if you were to mislead
some people on something like this and then like he
takes a couple of days off in summer, and now
it like looks like you were lying to everybody, you know,
So if you're just truthful and straightforward about it, which
I mean, Look, the guy's coming off with surgery, you
know what I mean, and the guy is going to
(24:30):
need breaks and schedule, then you know, I think you
got less complications on the back end of it. So
that I think is the thinking. But look like I
would never I'm done ever like discounting or or downplaying
any sort of shoulder issue for a quarterback. If a
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quarterback's got an issue with his throwing shoulder, it is
worth paying attention to a period and of story. Now,
some are more serious than others, obviously, but we've got
too many cases where something that seems small at the beginning,
whether it's Andrew lock, Cam Newton's whoever you want to
you know, whoever's name you want to use here. We've
got so many cases where it got where a quarterback
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throwing shoulder was an issue, and at the beginning we
thought like, this is just something that needs to be managed,
and then lo and behold, a few months, a couple
of years later, we're talking about something more serious. Happens
all the time, you know. So I would say I
would take what Chris dalla is saying at face value,
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but I would never never again downplay a quarterback going
through an issue with this throwing shoulder.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies
at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Alright, AB, it's
time for the weekly because listen to me, there's a
lot of players who want deals. I don't know that
anybody's taken it as personally as Brandon Ayuk and gone
publicly to kind of voice his display. Where do we
(26:01):
stand on that? I know they reportedly met recently, but
is there any optimism there's going to be.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
A deal done?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Yeah? I mean I think if you want, like something
this instruction on this one and go back two years
and look how ugly this thing got with Ebo Samuel.
And if you remember, like you want to go back
to that point in time, there was a there was
a time when people are saying, well, it's not even
about the money, it's about the way the Niners use him,
(26:27):
and he doesn't want to play running back anymore, right, Yeah,
And in the end, like that all wound up becoming
just part of the negotiation. And now actually, over the
last two years, believe it or not, he's averaged more
carries per game than he did. But you're leading into
that contract Togo in twenty twenty one, so he's actually
(26:48):
taking on more damage as a running back now than
he was.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
At least he stuck to his guns. You know, everybody
was honest the whole time.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
So my point is, like money sells a lot of things,
you know what I mean? Like so, and I just think,
but this is a part of a normal negotiation, you know. Ultimately,
I do think that the Niners, if they had their brothers,
would choose keeping Brandon and Ayuk over keeping Deebo Samuel
(27:17):
at this point, Like I think if it were up
to them right now, and and you ask them you
can keep one way goodbye to the other. They would
keep Ayuk, and I invest reflected in the contract offers
that they've made to him. There yet no the the
Justin Jefferson contract situation complicate things. Yes, could this get
(27:37):
ugly ugly before it gets better?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I'm sure?
Speaker 8 (27:41):
And you know, is it possible somebody could come in
when things look fleet and blow the Niners away and
get them an off for they can't refuse. I guess
that could happen too, But I still think the likelihood
is the Niners find a way to get something done
with Brandon Ayuk and he's there long term.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Do we have any updates on Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Come ony? We got to hear.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Well, we already talked about this last week, didn't we.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
There's there's no I mean, I'm just saying it's it's
it's a new week, you know, Aaron Rodgers is a
new week type of guy, you know what I mean?
Like updates? We definitely talked about it last week. There
could be updates.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Albert, you know something and you're not filling us in.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You heard what he hit us with? Uh about this.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Last week I told you that I think he's in
a place that you can't fly to from where I'm
at without a connection. And if you look, if you look,
I live in Boston. If you look, you can fly
a lot of places from Boston without a connection. So
I I don't think you can get where Aaron Rodgers
is going without a connection in space.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I mean, I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So, I mean, I think it was it was rich
Semini that kind of hinted at the Middle East, that
it was over the Middle East or something like that.
There was there was that that was thrown out there.
I just you know, at what point. The thing about it, though,
is whatever the answer is, he's going to get crushed
for it either way, like somebody's gonna have a problem
(29:26):
with it because it come out.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Will will it become common novel.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Or he's just gonna come out and say it on McAfee.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Right, you do think he will come out and say
where he was at for the two days.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
I mean we didn't do this before. I mean didn't
we find I think we found out from the dark
about the darkness retreat from him, right, like he was
the one nobody else broke that news. That was him, right,
I remember, right.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, he he talked about going, yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Your book when it comes.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
So you're going to let him break the news on
McAfee and you not breaking on two pros and a
cup of Joe right now?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Messed up?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Man, Come on, Albert, I.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I I have have some things that can't be said.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'll just put it fair enough.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
That's not fair.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
We we we deserve to have you say it right
here right now, Albert.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But okay, sorry, Hey, by the way, what do you
got on tap book?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
LeVar? I gave you guys a hell of a hint.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yes you did, Yes, you did? You did? You did?
Speaker 8 (30:31):
You can do it together and that yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
All right? So so ab, I believe you were in
Nantucket last year for fourth Are you going out there
again this year?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
What?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
What's the plan for the family for holiday.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
We are a pretty serious problem right now because we
booked the ferry and every year on the first day
is available to get our car over there. Right now,
my wife call him like three hours in on the
first day and everything booked out. We still haven't come
off the waiting list, and so I may have to
(31:04):
go to the ferry with the car at four am
tomorrow to try and get the car on standby.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh so.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Rogn and Nantucket. How and when all of us get
there is still up in the air. There'll be no
problem getting us there. The problem is getting a car
there and where the house is relative to everything else,
and so so, yeah, I got some real issues I
got to deal with over the next twenty four hours
or so.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Well, you can rent a car if all those fails, though.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
Right, No, no, no, no no. The rental cars over there
are rented like months ahead of time, so there'd be
no chance of that.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Damn.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
It's a dinar situation, LeVar. I mean, I'm I'm like,
I I got to figure some stuff out today for.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Sure, so stressed out. I wish you the best, bro.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Does I am. I'm not gonna lie to you, guys,
I am.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, he can't geez, you won't be up at our time.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, he can't be bothered with you know, Aaron Rodgers,
you know, sitting on the back of a Campbell. Guys,
He's not like, don't yeah, don't don't bother.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You've got his own problems.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Here, say anything about any Campbell's I don't know what
you guys are telling.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, like I got him right,
this is this is where I'm picturing it. I've got
him sitting on the back of a camel smoking a bong.
That's That's what I'm thinking about with Aaron Rodgers. But
you know, yeah, you never should never know. All right, Hey,
good luck tomorrow if you're if you're stuck out there
and you're waiting, you can turn on the show and
(32:34):
uh it, we'll keep you company for a little bit.
Stand by, right, Yeah, well, well we'll see you know,
it depends he's got to behave but nonetheless, uh a
b We appreciated. He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the m m QB. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer. Always a fun conversation. Every
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If they're please or if.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
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Speaker 8 (34:15):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:16):
Guys, it sounds like, we're more in on day two
than we were in on Day one of the NBA draft?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Would it be right to say that?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, yeah, why not? Sure, Let's see what happens.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I pay Was I in on one, damn? Or any
other one after that?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I mean, you know, I am interested enough to see
where guys go and stuff like that for the NBA.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I am interested in the.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
NBA, I will say, And yes, day two. Every every
moment I hate to say it, and maybe I don't
hate to say it, but I hate it every moment
that Brownie James isn't picked, I'm more interested.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So it's like is he going to get picked or not?
And where does he end up?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah? Good point?
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Guys on Fox today Copa America Panama versus USA and
hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Look man, I love these big soccer tournaments. The euro
Cup's been fantastic. Uh, the the Copa has been fun
to watch. By the Mexico so bad? That was It
was fun though, cheering for Venezuela with my wife watching
the Mexico team employe. That was fun, kind of like
one of my favorite pastimes. You know, just what are
(35:38):
you guys all cheering for? I don't take the other one,
you know, why not. But yeah, they've been a lot
of good. So I'm in on these soccer tournaments. They're fun.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
I was catching a Georgia beat or upset Portugal yesterday
while I was getting my haircutter stuff with Chewy, good
old Chewy and a slow death yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Away, Lee, you did you've made an alteration to the mullet.
Speaker 9 (36:05):
Yeah, it's even more aggressive now. He took a little
too much off, too much off the top.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, well it was a little hot.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
We're a little hot, but it's all right.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
It's almost like a mohawk.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Leader meter baby.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Okay, guys, come on, man, if you're looking.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
For something to watch.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
The bear just dropped on the Disney watch a few episodes.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I thought you'd be in on this.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Jonas Uh based out based out of Chicago, based out
of Chicago, and it's a kitchen. You know, you got
you know? No, Well, it's so. It's the the guy
who played Carrie van Eric and the Iron Claw. It
was in Jeremy Allen White. Is that his name?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, I don't know. I don't know what the guy's
name is. If it's not Jeremy Allen white, I apologize
if it is it is jermy l Yeah about that.
And he was also on the show Shameless. Yeah. What
so he's is he like the owner of the restaurant.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
He's the master chef out.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Of the wait a second, flamorrow do if he was
the valet, would you have been in? Yes, like you
needed to hear what his occupation was at the what
his responsibility was at the restaurant before you were out?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You know what? I'm with him? I'm out national Biingo Dave.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
What was the last time you guys played Biingo?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I played it? It uh a church carnival a few
years ago.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
It's fun man a few days ago for Larena.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
You go to church a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah every week?
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Nice?
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Yeah.
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No?
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No, you know what my favorite Spider Man is?
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Oh? One?
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Yeah, that one and the one that's not on What
else you got, Lee?
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(01:52):
bit different. Okay, there's a lot of people out there
that are kind of weighing in on who had the
best draft in the NBA in Night one, I would
like to try something different. Here's my thoughts on the draft.
I don't know. I don't know I had the best draft.
I really have no idea because I have no idea how.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
To You'd have to believe.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
You'd have to believe that whoever has the first the
first pick, did it well in the NBA draft's I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
You know what I know about the NBA. I know
the Celtics are the world champs. That's what I know,
and that's that's that's what I'm gonna go with. I
have no idea whether or not the Nicks and the
moves that they've made mckel Bridges being added to the roster.
I mean it seems like a good fit. You gave
up four unprotected picks for it. Uh, that seems like
a lot for mckel Bridges. But you know, everybody is
(02:44):
celebrating that. I have no idea what any of these
guys are going to pan out, what they're going to do,
what it's going to pan out to, Like, I have
no clue whatsoever. But here's what I O. Well, I
was gonna say this, and you kind of alluded to this.
As much as we want to kind of pooh pooh
and dismiss the Brownny James angle to all this stuff,
(03:07):
I will say this, it has made it a little
bit more intriguing the whole thing. Like we may not
like it, we may not. Look we probably didn't like
LeVar Ball and everything that he was doing when it
came to Lonzo Ball and all this stuff that, but
it did add a little bit of intrigue to it,
Like there was something that it added. And while Bronnie
(03:27):
James is sitting there and there's the chance, although I
do think he's going to be drafted, but there is
the chance, and who knows it wouldn't be the craziest
thing in the world. If he doesn't get drafted later tonight,
it is all of a sudden made the second round
of the NBA Draft that much more watchable, and I
would argue probably a better storyline than some of the
storylines we saw in the first round.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Of the draft. Well, I mean, he's the storyline of
the draft.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Yeah, and so it's interesting. It's quite the phenomenon when
you really think about it. And by the way, Dolton,
how you say his name neck neckt connect connect, Yeah,
that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Everybody thinks that that was the still of the draft
so far.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Like that's just like an amazing, amazing pick for the Lakers.
But nonetheless, the headlines continue to be dominated by Bronnie
James coming into it, Bronnie James during it, Bronnie James
coming out of it, Bronnie James. And it's going to
(04:39):
be interesting if his name gets called. What will that
What will that look like? What will the scrutiny and
the criticisms or the lotting and the praising or both.
What will that look like? If he goes undrafted? What
does that look like? How is that covered? I think
he continues he will ca continue to move the needle
(05:03):
on the relevance of this draft, which to me, seeing
all of these G league.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
And foreigners.
Speaker 5 (05:14):
Being drafted, it just says to me, I mean, what
does that What does that mean to the relevance of
the NBA? Do you have to call into question the
relevance because if you have legitimate prospects and and that
(05:36):
coverage is legit as well, you don't have to depend
on gimmicky types of things in order to make what
it is that you're doing, keep it, keep it entertaining,
and keep it legit. You don't have to do it.
(05:58):
And that was kind of for me. One of my
takeaways is the fact that Brownie James is such the
big story, the driving story why I think we all
know is talented as the young man is and as
much potential as he may have, he's not one of.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The top prospects. No, I don't even know that he's talent. Listen.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
In order to be able to make it into the NBA,
you have got to be so so.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
So gifted and things have to go your way.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
So for him to be in a position that he's in,
there's no harm in that at all, none, But there's
this big, big storyline that just kind of continues to persist.
And it's probably it's just one hundred percent based off
of Lebron James. But to me, I don't feel as though,
(07:00):
even with Lebron James being as big a figure to
the NBA that he is and to sports that he is,
that the NBA should be so in my estimation, this
might offend some people, but should they be? Should the
NBA be so irrelevant? And it's and it's relevant that
Bronnie James is the biggest storyline and the biggest prospect
(07:23):
and the most talked about prospect in this year's draft.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I mean it's look, if you want to like, the
NFL doesn't have this problem. Right, As we mentioned, college
football is so big and so massive that we know
who these guys are, so the coverage and the visibility, Like,
that's what makes the NFL Draft what it is. You've
got the two biggest sports, the NFL and college football.
(07:47):
And I say sports, you know, two different leagues, but
the two biggest in this country all in the same night.
Which is why the NFL Draft has grown and grown
and grown and become as massive as it is. And
I look at it, and I go, well, if you
needed visibility and you needed something recognizable to make the
draft more interesting despite where he falls in the mock
(08:09):
drafts and the rankings on everybody else, Bro, Like, I
would argue, like that name is more recognizable than any
other name in the entire draft, like the entire draft,
and the guy might go fifty five in the whole.
So if you're trying to, if you're solve in your
(08:30):
fixed to bring more notoriety to the NBA draft is
what we need. More visibility. This should be a lesson
to the NBA and maybe to college basketball figure out
a way to start marketing these guys better. Because Lebron
James has sort of done it his own way and
and sort of marketed, and he's done it through the
media with the help of the media. But it like
(08:53):
people are gonna be watching tonight and they're gonna be
watching tonight because of that, and and he's where he's
gonna end up.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
I just be honest, weren't weren't we watching last night
because of that?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah? And I think once people realize when you got
late in the I you know what, you know what?
You bring up A good point though, I would love
to see what the ratings are night one and Night
two of the NBA Draft, because it would not surprise.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Me if they're higher tonight because you're hoping or you're
you're waiting to see is he going to get draft?
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Because because it's a storyline, like when people and look,
Brady's talked about this before when he was waiting in
the draft room, and that became the story of that draft,
like Aaron Rodgers waiting in the draft room, like like, hey,
where's he going to end up? Like who's going to
take him? You know, a player that maybe goes late,
Like this storyline is going to be where does Brownie
James go? Because there's some people that are like, man,
(09:45):
the Celtics are picking one spot ahead of the Lakers.
What if they just stuck it to him and took
Lebron's son and made him a Celtic just because hey,
why not? You know, we'll throw him on our G
league team. We'll let him, you know, let him work
there a little bit. There are some people that think
he can play defense a little bit in the league,
and maybe that's a possibility, but there's enough added to
it that I would not be surprised if the number
(10:06):
was better from a viewing standpoint tonight than it is
for last night in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
I just gotta be honest.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
And I know i've you know, y'all called me a hater,
and I know I come across as a hater, but
I'm not a hater. I just I just say it
how I see it. If that means I'm hating, that
means I'm hating, I don't know. I just I just
say what I feel, and I feel what I say.
I walk my walk, I talk my walk. And this
is what I say about Bronnie James. I just said it.
(10:33):
I think he's a talented basketball player. I think he
has a ton of potential. But I think if we're
looking at prospects and what this NBA draft looks like,
there's not very many people, if any, that will get
drafted that if Bronnie James weren't to get drafted, that
(10:56):
you'd be like, he would have been a better pick
than this guy.
Speaker 4 (11:00):
He would have been a better pick than that guy.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
I do not think that his level of accomplishment and
achievement connected to his talent level, says draft grade. I
do not, and and so to me, I think the
bigger storyline here is because there has been this consistence
(11:23):
he shouldn't have been he shouldn't have been a McDonald's
All American. Jonas like he shouldn't have played in the game.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
He said.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
You heard Papa Daykin say, like you had dudes that
were ranked higher than him in the CIF and they weren't.
They weren't in the game. But Bronnie James was in
the game.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
By the way, how close were you to be in
a McDonald's All American in basketball?
Speaker 4 (11:43):
I didn't even I didn't play in my senior year.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
But had you play your senior year, how close would
you have been a McDonald's All American.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Uh? No, No, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I could have gotten close, though.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
I mean I was. I was good.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
I was good enough to be Probably if I went
in the college, I would have been like a sixth man,
seventh man, maybe eighth. I'd have been like an eighth
man on the bench.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I would have been a ninth. But again, you know,
we're just splitting airs here.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
Here's the reality, man, is that you have to live
in reality, because if you don't make it so that
you have to live in reality, I think one of
the biggest, the biggest fails in all of this is
actually creating this false sense of reality around Brownie James.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Again, I gotta do my job.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
I gotta say it the way I say it, and
I got to feel the way I feel about it.
I just don't think that it has now come to
where the rubber meets the road of all of this.
You can create all of the hype, you can pay
for it, you can leverage it however you want to
call it, whatever you want to do. I mean, I
(12:57):
don't know that, and this might sound hard, but should
he have been a Division one basketball player? I've seen
a ton really no, listen, I've seen a ton a
ton of really really really Like if you're listening to
(13:19):
our show right now, and you watch basketball, and you
watch high school basketball, and if you watch summer leagues
and stuff like that, you and I both.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Know you have seen dudes.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
That are crazy, crazy gifted, crazy crazy talented and did not.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Go Division one. Did not.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
And to me, when you look at it, sure he's
going to get every benefit of the doubt, and there's
nothing wrong with that. Legacy calls for that. But when
you also look at what you earn. That's ultimately what
it comes down to. I don't that he went to
a school, a Division I school, but now you got
(14:04):
to prove why you're there. The hype can't continue to
carry you through what got you there, right, Like, I mean,
let's be clear if you got there because of something else,
but yet your stats don't represent it, like okay, well,
(14:29):
you know he he had to deal with, you know
what he dealt with health wise, this, that and the other. Like, okay,
he played twenty five games. It was twenty six point
seven from three point sixty seven from sixty seven, point
six percentage from free.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Throws, probably better than his dad had.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Had two point eight rebounds, had two point one assists,
a point two block, which I don't know what the
hell that means. A point eight still, which I don't
know what that means.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
It's a point two blog like a half sack in football.
Like him and another guy both got a hand on it.
They're like, all.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
Right, so you're averaging four point eight points, averaging two
point eight rebounds, averaging two point one in assists, and
your thirty six point six in field goal percentage and
what world and what world even? Like I had all
(15:29):
of this like you had, you have all of this
to say about Bronnie James. Bronnie James is Bronnie James
at and he gets to USC and he plays, and
those are your stats. You've done nothing to dispel anyone
who has said he's not deserving of the attention that
(15:51):
he's receiving, and statistically speaking, you would be right. I
don't think if you take Bronnie name off of that
and you said jonas draft prospect for this year's draft
to twenty twenty four NBA draft, we got prospect a
(16:12):
who averaged four point eight points, two point eight rebounds,
two point one assists, and had a thirty six point
six field goal percentage. What would you say to that
as a draft, as an NBA draft pop prospect, no
name attached to it, what would you say?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
I would say, he's probably playing overseas, but is gonna
get draft?
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Is he even playing overseas?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
I mean, I don't know everybody's gonna I just.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
Don't how many.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Like, let's take if we were to take all of
the other statistical if we were to take these same
stats and we align them, how do you make it
make sense? How do you make it make sense the
last name exactly, But again the point I'm making. The
point I'm making is if you're going to leverage the
(17:04):
last name, then he at least has to do his
part and perform. You at least have to make it
where the argument and the discussion is legitimized by what
it is that the achievement and accomplished level of what
he's doing. Once he's gotten there, it has to be
aligned with the hype that was used in order for
(17:28):
him to be where he's at to begin with.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Who do you think had a more decorated career at USC,
Bronnie James or the homeless guy that snuck into practice
and was fielding punts.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
I mean, some could argue the homeless guy because how
do you how the hell do you get that far right?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
How the hell and get coverage from it?
Speaker 5 (17:51):
You know, I'm just saying, because if you're Brodnie James,
you had the entire world in front of you, You
had everything set up for you. And again I'll say,
the caveat is he had the health scare. I get that,
but he returned and he played. Are we using that
as the caveat for the NBA.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Draft yeah, but the home the hopeless guy is sleeping
on a Domino S box. I mean think about behind
a dumpster. I mean that's more.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Impressive and got up and went to work. Yeah, okay,
just like I.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Saw Hey right now, I saw your post, so I'm
not I'm not really in on this. Just so you know,
I'm you know, homeless people are people too. I saw
your posts on a GI I get it. Oh, the
homeless people can look good and dress good and go
to work. You know this one happened to be good
enough to go Phil Punts for USC Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
What's wrong on that? Listen down down time for the
program and something wrong with that? You know it happens. Well,
we'll get to watch and see where Ronnie.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
James ends up.
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio will close up shop with another edition of
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fifteen minutes from now. But right now, Albert Breer is
in senior NFL reporter and lead content strategists at the MMQB.
You can get him on Twitter at Albert Breer ab
What's Happening, Good morning.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Morning.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
So we were curious because we were discussing this earlier
this week, this report that came out that Mike McCarthy
is fed up, and I think Tyler Dunn was the
reporter who came out with it, that Tyler that Mike
McCarthy's a little bit fed up with the situation in Dallas.
There are people there who think that, you know, every
players you know are going more towards Jerry and that
(20:51):
he's basically just this typical drama that comes with the Cowboys.
My question for you is this, I haven't heard Mike
McCarthy or anybody else dispel any of that stuff. So
does that tell you that there was some validity to
the report from Tyler Dunn?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
Now, I mean it tells me everybody's off for the
summer right now. You know, I think you'll probably hear
Mike McCarthy shoot the report down. Now, that doesn't mean
it's not true, but you know, whenever he's available again,
which I would think would be right to start a
training camp, it'll probably be addressed and you know, he'll
deny that ever a problem, and then if they win,
(21:34):
then you know, everybody lacks like nothing ever happened. And
if they lose, then we'll reprise it like everything else.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
You know.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Look, I mean like this is a complicated situation. The
Cowboys are in all the way around. I mean, they
have three high profile maybe the three best players in
our team in contract situations with Dak Prescott, Ceedee Lamb
and Micah Parsons. And they've got a head coach and
his staff, most of his staff going into contract years.
(22:02):
They're also turning over part of the staff where Dan
Quinn's off to Washington, and there is the new defensive coordinators.
So you know, like there's just a lot of moving
parts there. And you know the fact that Mike McCarthy's
won twelve games three years in a row, and as
in this position where everyone's constantly talking about his job security,
(22:23):
I'm sure it's frustrating to him. On the flip side,
I mean, I had heard going into the playoffs last
year that McCarthy didn't just have to make the best
and had to look good in the playoffs to hold
on to his job. Obviously, that didn't happen because they
didn't look great and their only playoff game against Screen Bay.
So I think, you know, it's it's not a real
(22:44):
surprise to anybody that we're talking about his job status.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Oh wow, that's that's interesting. It would be interesting.
Speaker 5 (22:53):
I'm curious to see if it comes out differently as
as we move forward, if this pops back.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Up, let's let's go to Indianapolis.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
How Anthony Richardson that the GM comes out and says,
you know, it's just arm, shoulder fatigue, nothing to be
concerned about.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
He's full go, and that's fine. But to me, why
even say it?
Speaker 5 (23:18):
I think that that's kind of the big question here
is why even say it? If he's full go, if
there's nothing to worry about, no concerns, no nothing, why
even say you know it's due to shoulder fatigue and
nothing no problem data. Don't use that and especially don't say, well,
we're extra sensitive around here about shoulders and stuff like that. Like,
(23:40):
I just feel like these guys could answer questions a
little bit better than what they do.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
But why even say it in this moment?
Speaker 8 (23:47):
I think in this case, you know, Chris is trying
to be honest, you know, and I think his experience
of going through it with Andrew Locke, and you remember
what a complete bleep show that became, where it was
he's coming back, He's not coming back. You know, where
you get yourself in trouble is when you mislead people
(24:08):
on things like this. And if you were to mislead
some people on something like this and then like he
takes a couple of days off in summer, and now
it like looks like you were lying to everybody, you know,
So if you're just truthful and straightforward about it, which
I mean, Look, the guy's coming off with surgery, you
know what I mean, and the guy is going to
(24:30):
need breaks and schedule, then you know, I think you
got less complications on the back end of it. So
that I think is the thinking. But look like I
would never I'm done ever like discounting or or downplaying
any sort of shoulder issue for a quarterback. If a
(24:51):
quarterback's got an issue with his throwing shoulder, it is
worth paying attention to a period and of story. Now,
some are more serious than others, obviously, but we've got
too many cases where something that seems small at the beginning,
whether it's Andrew lock, Cam Newton's whoever you want to
you know, whoever's name you want to use here. We've
got so many cases where it got where a quarterback
(25:12):
throwing shoulder was an issue, and at the beginning we
thought like, this is just something that needs to be managed,
and then lo and behold, a few months, a couple
of years later, we're talking about something more serious. Happens
all the time, you know. So I would say I
would take what Chris dalla is saying at face value,
(25:34):
but I would never never again downplay a quarterback going
through an issue with this throwing shoulder.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, Lead Content Strategies
at the MMQB, joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer. Alright, AB, it's
time for the weekly because listen to me, there's a
lot of players who want deals. I don't know that
anybody's taken it as personally as Brandon Ayuk and gone
publicly to kind of voice his display. Where do we
(26:01):
stand on that? I know they reportedly met recently, but
is there any optimism there's going to be.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
A deal done?
Speaker 8 (26:07):
Yeah? I mean I think if you want, like something
this instruction on this one and go back two years
and look how ugly this thing got with Ebo Samuel.
And if you remember, like you want to go back
to that point in time, there was a there was
a time when people are saying, well, it's not even
about the money, it's about the way the Niners use him,
(26:27):
and he doesn't want to play running back anymore, right, Yeah,
And in the end, like that all wound up becoming
just part of the negotiation. And now actually, over the
last two years, believe it or not, he's averaged more
carries per game than he did. But you're leading into
that contract Togo in twenty twenty one, so he's actually
(26:48):
taking on more damage as a running back now than
he was.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
At least he stuck to his guns. You know, everybody
was honest the whole time.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
So my point is, like money sells a lot of things,
you know what I mean? Like so, and I just think,
but this is a part of a normal negotiation, you know. Ultimately,
I do think that the Niners, if they had their brothers,
would choose keeping Brandon and Ayuk over keeping Deebo Samuel
(27:17):
at this point, Like I think if it were up
to them right now, and and you ask them you
can keep one way goodbye to the other. They would
keep Ayuk, and I invest reflected in the contract offers
that they've made to him. There yet no the the
Justin Jefferson contract situation complicate things. Yes, could this get
(27:37):
ugly ugly before it gets better?
Speaker 4 (27:39):
I'm sure?
Speaker 8 (27:41):
And you know, is it possible somebody could come in
when things look fleet and blow the Niners away and
get them an off for they can't refuse. I guess
that could happen too, But I still think the likelihood
is the Niners find a way to get something done
with Brandon Ayuk and he's there long term.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Do we have any updates on Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Come ony? We got to hear.
Speaker 8 (28:02):
Well, we already talked about this last week, didn't we.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Well, I mean.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
There's there's no I mean, I'm just saying it's it's
it's a new week, you know, Aaron Rodgers is a
new week type of guy, you know what I mean?
Like updates? We definitely talked about it last week. There
could be updates.
Speaker 1 (28:19):
Albert, you know something and you're not filling us in.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You heard what he hit us with? Uh about this.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
Last week I told you that I think he's in
a place that you can't fly to from where I'm
at without a connection. And if you look, if you look,
I live in Boston. If you look, you can fly
a lot of places from Boston without a connection. So
I I don't think you can get where Aaron Rodgers
is going without a connection in space.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
I mean, I wouldn't be shocked.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
So, I mean, I think it was it was rich
Semini that kind of hinted at the Middle East, that
it was over the Middle East or something like that.
There was there was that that was thrown out there.
I just you know, at what point. The thing about it, though,
is whatever the answer is, he's going to get crushed
for it either way, like somebody's gonna have a problem
(29:26):
with it because it come out.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Will will it become common novel.
Speaker 8 (29:31):
Or he's just gonna come out and say it on McAfee.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Right, Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Right, you do think he will come out and say
where he was at for the two days.
Speaker 8 (29:42):
I mean we didn't do this before. I mean didn't
we find I think we found out from the dark
about the darkness retreat from him, right, like he was
the one nobody else broke that news. That was him, right,
I remember, right.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, yeah, he he talked about going, yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
Your book when it comes.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
So you're going to let him break the news on
McAfee and you not breaking on two pros and a
cup of Joe right now?
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Messed up?
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Man, Come on, Albert, I.
Speaker 8 (30:11):
I I have have some things that can't be said.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'll just put it fair enough.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
That's not fair.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
We we we deserve to have you say it right
here right now, Albert.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But okay, sorry, Hey, by the way, what do you
got on tap book?
Speaker 8 (30:26):
LeVar? I gave you guys a hell of a hint.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
Yes you did, Yes, you did? You did? You did?
Speaker 8 (30:31):
You can do it together and that yeah?
Speaker 1 (30:33):
All right? So so ab, I believe you were in
Nantucket last year for fourth Are you going out there
again this year?
Speaker 4 (30:40):
What?
Speaker 1 (30:40):
What's the plan for the family for holiday.
Speaker 8 (30:43):
We are a pretty serious problem right now because we
booked the ferry and every year on the first day
is available to get our car over there. Right now,
my wife call him like three hours in on the
first day and everything booked out. We still haven't come
off the waiting list, and so I may have to
(31:04):
go to the ferry with the car at four am
tomorrow to try and get the car on standby.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Oh so.
Speaker 8 (31:11):
Rogn and Nantucket. How and when all of us get
there is still up in the air. There'll be no
problem getting us there. The problem is getting a car
there and where the house is relative to everything else,
and so so, yeah, I got some real issues I
got to deal with over the next twenty four hours
or so.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Well, you can rent a car if all those fails, though.
Speaker 8 (31:32):
Right, No, no, no, no no. The rental cars over there
are rented like months ahead of time, so there'd be
no chance of that.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Damn.
Speaker 8 (31:42):
It's a dinar situation, LeVar. I mean, I'm I'm like,
I I got to figure some stuff out today for.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Sure, so stressed out. I wish you the best, bro.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
Does I am. I'm not gonna lie to you, guys,
I am.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Yeah, he can't geez, you won't be up at our time.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, he can't be bothered with you know, Aaron Rodgers,
you know, sitting on the back of a Campbell. Guys,
He's not like, don't yeah, don't don't bother.
Speaker 6 (32:07):
You've got his own problems.
Speaker 8 (32:08):
Here, say anything about any Campbell's I don't know what
you guys are telling.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, I'm just saying, you know, like I got him right,
this is this is where I'm picturing it. I've got
him sitting on the back of a camel smoking a bong.
That's That's what I'm thinking about with Aaron Rodgers. But
you know, yeah, you never should never know. All right, Hey,
good luck tomorrow if you're if you're stuck out there
and you're waiting, you can turn on the show and
(32:34):
uh it, we'll keep you company for a little bit.
Stand by, right, Yeah, well, well we'll see you know,
it depends he's got to behave but nonetheless, uh a
b We appreciated. He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter,
lead content strategist at the m m QB. Get him
on Twitter at Albert Breer. Always a fun conversation. Every
(32:54):
single Thursday morning. It is Two Pros and a Cup
of Joan coming up next here from the tire rack
dot Com studie. You are damn We're going to close
up shop with you and you out.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
They don't have no rainforest there.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
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(33:44):
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Two Pros in a Cup of show what you to know?
Speaker 4 (34:10):
If they're please or if.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
They're out all right? Lead the lap? What do we got?
Speaker 8 (34:15):
Well?
Speaker 9 (34:16):
Guys, it sounds like, we're more in on day two
than we were in on Day one of the NBA draft?
Speaker 6 (34:21):
Would it be right to say that?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, yeah, why not? Sure, Let's see what happens.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
I pay Was I in on one, damn? Or any
other one after that?
Speaker 8 (34:34):
Damn?
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I mean, you know, I am interested enough to see
where guys go and stuff like that for the NBA.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
I am interested in the.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
NBA, I will say, And yes, day two. Every every
moment I hate to say it, and maybe I don't
hate to say it, but I hate it every moment
that Brownie James isn't picked, I'm more interested.
Speaker 4 (35:01):
So it's like is he going to get picked or not?
And where does he end up?
Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah? Good point?
Speaker 9 (35:09):
Guys on Fox today Copa America Panama versus USA and
hell yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Look man, I love these big soccer tournaments. The euro
Cup's been fantastic. Uh, the the Copa has been fun
to watch. By the Mexico so bad? That was It
was fun though, cheering for Venezuela with my wife watching
the Mexico team employe. That was fun, kind of like
one of my favorite pastimes. You know, just what are
(35:38):
you guys all cheering for? I don't take the other one,
you know, why not. But yeah, they've been a lot
of good. So I'm in on these soccer tournaments. They're fun.
Speaker 9 (35:47):
I was catching a Georgia beat or upset Portugal yesterday
while I was getting my haircutter stuff with Chewy, good
old Chewy and a slow death yesterday.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Away, Lee, you did you've made an alteration to the mullet.
Speaker 9 (36:05):
Yeah, it's even more aggressive now. He took a little
too much off, too much off the top.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
Yeah, well it was a little hot.
Speaker 6 (36:12):
We're a little hot, but it's all right.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
It's almost like a mohawk.
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Leader meter baby.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
Okay, guys, come on, man, if you're looking.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
For something to watch.
Speaker 9 (36:25):
The bear just dropped on the Disney watch a few episodes.
Speaker 6 (36:30):
I thought you'd be in on this.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Jonas Uh based out based out of Chicago, based out
of Chicago, and it's a kitchen. You know, you got
you know? No, Well, it's so. It's the the guy
who played Carrie van Eric and the Iron Claw. It
was in Jeremy Allen White. Is that his name?
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Well, I don't know. I don't know what the guy's
name is. If it's not Jeremy Allen white, I apologize
if it is it is jermy l Yeah about that.
And he was also on the show Shameless. Yeah. What
so he's is he like the owner of the restaurant.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
He's the master chef out.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Of the wait a second, flamorrow do if he was
the valet, would you have been in? Yes, like you
needed to hear what his occupation was at the what
his responsibility was at the restaurant before you were out?
Speaker 4 (37:26):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You know what? I'm with him? I'm out national Biingo Dave.
Speaker 9 (37:35):
What was the last time you guys played Biingo?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
I played it? It uh a church carnival a few
years ago.
Speaker 6 (37:46):
It's fun man a few days ago for Larena.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
You go to church a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah every week?
Speaker 4 (37:53):
Nice?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (37:56):
Happy birthday to Toby Acguire's Toby acguire your favorite Spider Man?
Speaker 4 (38:01):
No?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
No, you know what my favorite Spider Man is?
Speaker 4 (38:04):
Oh? One?
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, that one and the one that's not on What
else you got, Lee?
Speaker 6 (38:12):
Chloe Kardashian, Happy birthday.
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