June 29, 2024 • 51 mins
This week on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Panthers beat the Oilers in Game 7 of the Stanley Cup. The Old P, Petros Papadakis discusses the Lakers hiring JJ Redick. And the Lakers actually take Bronny in the NBA Draft.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Airings and Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yep, go ahead, Brady Quinn, there you go. Panthers won
the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Go Cats get That was an awesome game. Come on then,
anyone who watched that it was. It was a great game.
You kind of felt like Edmonton at some point was
going to get a goal in the in the third
period until I thought the last two to three minutes
and you heard Sean McDonough say it, they looked ghasted.
(00:40):
There was just times when they so many of their stars,
in particular econom McDavid, they just stayed out on the ice,
you know, almost play the entire game.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
And it's everything you love about sport.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's everything you love about you know, a game seven
like that where guys are putting it all out there,
they're leaving everything out there for the sake of competition,
trying to win a championship. And it's unfortunate for Conor McDavid,
who's the best hockey player in the world and yet
the Stanley Cup still eludes him.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But for the Florida Panthers.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
An organization that if you look at what Vincent Viola
has done their new owner. And I can speak to
this firsthand because he should be a beacon of life
for every poor franchise out there that's.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's been awful. This is what good ownership can do.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It can literally transform a team that was an afterthought
that when you'd go to games there was a lot
of fans dressed up like seats. That's when they shoot
out the T shirt cannon, there was a greater likelihood
it would have hit an empty seat as opposed to
a fan. And he's completely transformed that South Florida market
(01:51):
back to kind of some of their earlier days. I
think if you go back in the nineties, there's folks
when they used to play down in Miami who would
have said, like, hey, this was a fun for franchise,
one that you know, had had some had some runs
of success, but nothing like these in the last few years.
And and so credit to him, credit to Barry Zito,
(02:11):
Matt Caldwell, all the all the people who are involved.
Because they've built up this roster, they've built up this team.
They they built in a fan base where I mean
you felt that place was absolutely electrical last night.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It really was.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And they've got a tremendous team, So happy for man.
I mean, I've watched, I'm telling you, I've watched that
team go from the depths of the NHL now obviously
to the pinnacle and it's been incredible to watch them
to really transform and do it.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
HM, were you waiting on me?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
You know you were waiting on I mean, I just
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I feel like this was one of those those topics
where Q covered it so well. I mean, what else
am I going to? What else am I going to
bring to?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
We did have a side that last night LaVar As
Jonas and I were watching. We had a side belt.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We're like, is LeVar watching?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is he actually gonna watch this?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh? I did watch, you know, I'll say this. I
moved my daughter into into her college dorm yesterday. It
was very it was a very, very busy day. But
I did watch. But what exactly am I supposed to
bring to the conversation? I think you've covered it all.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So when the game starts and Florida scores pretty early,
I'm like, Oh, here we go. Is it's gonna turn it?
And then Edmonton responds right back. I'm like, all right,
this is a game seven. Yes, serious, this is this
is what we needed. This is the game seven. Now
is there outrage for the fact that Connor McDavid did
win the con smythe and he was on the losing team, which,
(03:43):
as Eddie pointed out, only the second non goalie to
have that happen in the history of the NHL.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
And it's been a long time since that's happened.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
So was it grooved?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I would I would be curious to ask Eddie because
I personally didn't have a problem with it. The only
thing I'd say was, but Connor McDavid that impact because
he's just the best player and everyone knows.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We talked about it, my brother in law was here,
we were talking about it last night.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
But he didn't have the impact, at least in the
box score, that you would have hoped for from it.
I mean, Florida did such an amazing job defensively against
him to not even allow him even get a shot
on goal, and there's somebody to be said for that.
So even though I think you'd say, oh, what about Barbrovski, Well,
there was some times where he really struggled in this series,
(04:29):
So I can see why Connor McDavid gets it, because
even schematically, it changed everything Florida could do. I mean, Barkov,
who's a really good defensive or good defenseman offensively speaking,
though like he could go and score. I mean, he
kind of just focused defensive and trying to eliminate Connor
McDavid there on the ice together. But he's a guy
(04:51):
that typically can play more of a role offensively, which
is something you see now from today's defenseman in hockey.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
You know, back in the old.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Days, you would just be, you know, you're trying to
take guys out and play defense and make sure you
know guys ahead of you go score.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But with Barkov, I think he literally kind of changed up,
you know, is the entire game plan around that one
McDavid's on the ice because he's just that special of
a player. So I didn't have an issue with it.
I'd be more curious because Eddie's more of a NHL purist,
you know, did.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
He bombed that too?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Like was there more of a thought of like, hey,
he didn't have as big of an impact in the
box score, And that's one of the reasons why people
might have had an issue.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
With it, Edmund, your thoughts on Connor McDavid. A fine
award for a fine irishman who took it home last night,
although losing any.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Games even well, it's a little weird because he didn't
do anything in the last two games, so that, you know,
kind of leaves an interesting taste in your mouth. He
did have an amazing entire postseason and it is it's
supposed to be the MVP of the entire playoffs.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Okay, Now, if.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Somebody for Florida would have kind of really stepped up,
you know, because it was I mean, they were the
better team. That's why I picked him, you know at
the beginning of the of the series to win the Cup,
go get but if you know, and Butbrovsky after the
first three games, they were ready to put his name
on it. But then they had the next three games
and that took his name and uh, I mean, he
(06:22):
had he had a he had the great game when
it counted most. But there wasn't really anybody for Florida
who really stood out. And you're like, well, that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If they win, they have them what the most assist this? Uh,
the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
It was fourth most points ever in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I still can't get over the fact that they had
literally had more goals on the pedally kill than like
goals if they allowed power play goals.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was like, how is that possible?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, it's supposed to be your your special teams,
your advantage, right, and they literally flipped the script like
that was you. You could talk about the series for
a while, there was and things that stood out. That
was the first thing to me. How amazing Edmonton was.
The entire Stanley Cup and in particular series on the
power Play kill. It was unbelievable. How do you guys
view this?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
If Atmington were to have actually pulled it out with
the comeback that they made, and it's huge for Canada, right.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Oh, it would have been great, I mean would have
been great.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
We saw one Oilers fan how excited she was. That'd
have been the entire country.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
I mean, you know, all of a sudden, it's years
ninety three. Was the last time a Canadian team was.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
With their hand?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yeah, Patrick Waugh, Eddie's La Kings.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Didn't you didn't need to include that.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I'm just with simply stated, I'm still upset with you.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
That you.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I swear to god, I didn't change the song like
I will take a lie detector test.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I swear to god I had nothing to.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
Do with Can you get the light detector out please?
We're gonna him up in between break.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I've actually already sent the message to Veto asking why
he would do such a thing. I don't want to
reveal what I know until later on the show, but
Jonas contin didn't tease it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
But I do have some inside info on this.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Oh wow, what is this?
Speaker 6 (08:09):
What's going on behind the scenes here?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I can't I would tell you to later portion of
the show and I'll explain what I believe or who
I believe.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is the culprit.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Okay, fair enough, that makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
It was a very corny opening song.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
It is a song.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was a what's so is it? Because it's well,
it was just a corny it's a corn I mean,
it's a cool song, but it's a corny song.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean, what were you doing when that song came out?
Because I'm trying to think of how old I was
when I came out.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh, you had to have been like in college. Is
that like from the nineties, like early nineties.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I don't hold on. I'm gonna look it up, but
I don't. I don't. I don't remember one hundred percent
what I was doing when that song came out.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I see, when did it come to ninety six?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah? I was in high school. I was, I was,
I was in high school. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I mean that ninety six was a good year. It
was a good year. But I don't remember. I don't
recall what I was doing in that song.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Case.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Wait a second, the guy, the singer of that song
was born in Germany.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
You couldn't tell by his accident.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
No, I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I'm sorry. I couldn't return to.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
The max exactly where you're from. But I know he
wasn't from here.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I didn't know Ramstein did a cover of that, So no,
I couldn't tell that he was German. Oh yeah, apparently
I need.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Uh say it. Say what you want to say, someone
want to say.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I didn't know blacks lived in Germany. That's well, that's
what you wanted to say. That's what you wanted to say.
Black people do live in the UK.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Hey, No, listen, all good, you know, dang bro all good?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I just you know, I wasn't expecting that, But nonetheless,
we'll we'll maybe get to the bottom of that throughout
the course of the show as to who was responsible
for switching up and ripping Sanford and Son from the
airway going.
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Speaker 2 (11:15):
So normally on Wednesdays at eight twenty Eastern time, five
twenty Pacific, the old p Petros Papadeka stops by, but
due to high demand, he's being asked to come on
even earlier, so we turn it over now to Petros Papadakas.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
(11:38):
which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five seven
e LA Sports, Fox college football analysts and our good
buddy Pee.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
What's happening?
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Good morning, Hello, Hello to everybody, Good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Hello, Petros.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
We need you to try and clear up some confusion
for us here on the show if you could, Okay,
all right? So jj Reddick had the press conference is
introductory press conference with the LA media, and somebody was
in the background like yelling in support of JJ Reddick.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Yes, somebody asked me that yesterday. I don't know who
it was.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Do you have a guess? Is it in the top three?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
No. We were on live for that though, because the
Dodgers are in Chicago, so we were on for the
second half of the press conference and it was pretty remarkable.
We were there for the double F bomb?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Did that?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
The Guardian asked a question, Well, you know how the
dump button works, right, So like the dump button's kind
of like a like a water pressure mechanism or a
hydraulic thing, like it needs to be reset. Right, So
you drop one F bomb, we dump it, and then
it's got to be reset. We dump another one. If
(13:01):
he dropped the third, it was getting on air. Yeah,
you know, I don't think JJ Reddick knows that or cares,
but it was pretty funny, you know, like, hey, do
you care about all the people saying disparage things about you? No?
I don't effing care. I want to be the effing coach.
It's like, all right, well it seems like when you
(13:24):
start dropping F bombs, it seems like you care a
little bit. But yeah, the Lakers hire JJ Reddick, and
we had the press conference and now they're going to
talk about it all summer long. It'll be a whole
thing and they remain in the twenty four hour pantheon
of what did what did JJ Reddick call it? Engagement
(13:44):
farming industry? Yeah? Yes, yes, thanks Ale, which a part
of yeah he was, Yeah, And they'll be a and
instead of being a coach which was his lifelong dream.
Quote unquote, so if your life on dream as a coach,
you go coach, you go coach at Memphis or something
like Luke Walton. But anyway, we had that whole thing
(14:08):
and we all survived, and now they'll be part of
the engagement farming industry. Everything he does, everything he says,
everybody hires, every chivato around the corner, watching everything you do,
everything you think chiev It will be like that all
all summer long, except for the Olympics. We have the Olympics,
that is right.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We've got that to look forward to, which will be
awesome when it comes. But until then, we've got you
Petros and we've got the Lakers. And I've got to
ask you this because I think you'd agree, like this
was Lebron's higher that he wanted for head coach.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And now you have claimed that you've been bent over
a barrel, not my words, those are your words. Do
you expect to get bent over a barrel as well?
By JJ Reddick, There'll be two men bending you and
Matt money Smith over a barrel.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Now for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
It's not Matt Mundy Smith and I who are being
forced against our will by Lebron James. It's everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Everyone's being a bed over Beryl.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
There's been a bunch of coopers who are like just
overtime working to make enough barrels for us all.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
The game over.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So are you saying Petres at year Z and not
Marcellus in pulp fiction? Is that what you're saying? You're
just watching it happen.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
That's an interesting question. I don't feel like I'm being
nailed by the king, you know what I mean. Like,
I don't feel like the King is laboring over me
in the Victory Motel in Glendale, you know, you know
what I mean. But it feels like he's doing that
to the entire basketball globe, right, And I guess I'm sorry.
(15:56):
It's a little earlier than normal, so I'm a little foggy,
and I was up kind of late last night. But
let me try and make this as clear as possible.
I think about and I tried to make this analogy
on the show and it didn't work, but I'm gonna
try it again. Think of like nineteen sixties nineteen seventies
American foreign influence right now, and think of the Lakers
(16:23):
as some weird South American or Central American country with
leadership that is somehow in limbo between communism and capitalism
in the sixties and seventies. So let's say the Lakers
are like Nicaragua. Okay, the puppet government installed by the
(16:46):
CIA is who Jj Reddick and Rob Polinka? Who's the CIA?
Lebron Paul No, yeah, Lebron, yes, yeah, yes. So we
basically go through all these weird motions, acting like there's
(17:07):
been an election, acting like this is the will of
the public, acting like the Lakers went and did their
due diligence while trying to hire a head coach. We
sit there and talk about quote unquote installing an offense,
sit there and talk about quote unquote player development, sit
there and talk about, you know, competing for a championship
(17:27):
and all these things, when really it's all just Lebron, Lebron,
Lebron and whatever Lebron wants, and the fact that we're
all doing this and everybody sat there with a straight face,
and he said that he didn't talk to Lebron, and
then they're gonna do this whole thing about Bronnie James.
You know, they're gonna draft Bronnie James, and they're gonna
act like Lebron had nothing to do with it, and
(17:50):
the whole media is going to march, at least the
two three dozen people that are subjects of the King,
They're going to do their thing and spin it that
way and talk about how JJ reddicks somehow pat Riley
or JJ reddicks this innovative basketball mind. If JJ Redick
wanted to coach, he should have gone into coaching. But
(18:12):
he didn't have to to become the Laker head coach.
Why because Lebron had him installed. It's the most clear
thing in the world. Yet it's almost too simple and
too upsetting and to tofamatory to say, yes, this is
all Lebron's decision. Lebron is doing all of this. Lebron
(18:32):
is pulling all these strings. He's able to do it
with the Lakers because of their week leadership. He's able
to install a coach with absolutely no experience beyond coaching
a fourth grade team, and they actually put that up
on the ticker, like beyond coaching youth basketball is like,
I mean, that's the same credentials as like half the
men in my neighborhood. For God, sake, you know, it's
(18:56):
pretty amazing. And then we just all just say, hey,
this great, and oh I love how he dropped an
f bob, look at how irreverend he was, and it's
just like, wow, Uh, this was Uh, it was interesting,
but it was basically a foregone conclusion. It was something
we've been talking about for months. And if they really
wanted Danny Hurley, they wouldn't have low balled him.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Uh that's I guess that's the part that I find
that I would almost have more respect and it wouldn't
bother me as much if Lebron just came out and said, yeah,
this is the guy that I wanted, and yes, I
did want them to draft my son. It's the fact
that the pretend game of well, no, none of that
is the case. His entire career, He's tried to dictate
(19:37):
to the organization what he wants. Coaches, fired players, traded
his entire career, like I don't like. I think a
lot of us if we had that sort of influence,
we'd probably want that sort of influence on.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Certain things, like I would. I don't mind that.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
As much as the whole the act of oh, I.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Don't know he in my face and tell me it's raised.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah, like I don't I don't get. And then you watch.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
After the press conference, JJ, Reddick go and shake hands
with members of the media.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Oh, and they all go and kiss his ass and
who It's like when the president. It's like when the
State of the Union and everybody calls like.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
This is supposed to be media and they're all fanboys
and fangirls.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
And laughing and shaking hands and lining up to shake
hands watch his balls And while those two f bombs
were really pointed in the moment, JJ, Wow, that was awesome,
you know, And maybe he'll end up being a great coach.
Who's to say, Like, he's definitely not a stupid guy.
I mean, he's definitely a guy that can communicate, and
(20:38):
I'm sure that he knows basketball in a very complex
and real way. But even saying all that, and let's
just say he was a real coach, let's just say
he was a guy with a quote unquote offensive system.
What does that mean, by the way, I mean, you
just hand the ball to Lebron and do what Lebron says,
(21:00):
your rotations, whatever Lebron says, What do you I mean,
it's it's asinine that we have to go through these
motions as a media, and I've resented it since we started,
and it will continue because they hired a guy with
no experience, so it'll be a story, like I said,
all summer long and into the season, and you know,
(21:20):
it's like the longso Ball era or the end of
the Kobe Bryant contract, the last one. It's kind of
like the Lakers will be relevant, but they won't be
relevant because they're good. They'll be relevant because it's the
Lakers and it's a and it's a dumpster fire.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Is this a byproduct though, of how the league works?
I mean, the NBA is propped up, I guess as
I compare it to like the NFL. For example, we
can have someone like Tom Brady, who is the greatest
or has the greatest resume in NFL history, is the
goat retire and then someone immediately is stepping in behind
(22:01):
him and Patrick Mahomes to try to dethrone him, like
immediately right, and then maybe there's a little rivalry too
at the end of Tom's career with Patrick Mahomes coming on.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
But like the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Seems to continue to sustain and move forward and not
really have that hit of losing superstars. Like the NBA
differs where Lebron means that much to the NBA obviously
with the way they go about scheduling, the way they
go about the news of the off season, where he's
gonna be, and everything that's propped up this NBA draft.
(22:33):
I mean, honestly, the biggest talking point of the NBA
draft has been Bronnie James. And obviously it's a byproduct
of Lebron James because maybe that impacts where he goes.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
But I guess the question I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
To is, as much as we want to bemoan about
what Lebron has done or hasn't done, Like, isn't that
kind of just how the NBA works, Like we kind
of blame him, But like if we're going to compare
him to Michael Jordan, if Michael Jordan was doing this,
would you have an issue with it too? If that
was if his son, you know, and he had the
chance to play with his son and all that.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Yeah, yeah, the son part. Yes, Michael Jordan did have
a son, you know, but he didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Play it long enough and his son didn't have you
know what I'm saying to.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
That, I mean, played in Central Florida. He's probably a
lot better at college at the end of the day
than Browny. You no, I take your point. Is it
more of a byproduct of the NBA. Well, you're speaking
of the individual superstar nature of the NBA. It's the
model they built, like this is what I mean, one
of these guys. Well maybe, but look at I mean,
the best thing to do with the Lakers and figure
(23:36):
out why they're in such tumult and why it's been
such an issue. And the COVID Championship that everybody leans
on is another weird talking point that everybody just yeah,
everybody just says and nobody believes, you know, And you
could say the same thing about even though it was
in front of people the Dodger Championship when they won,
and even though the city went crazy like they did,
(24:00):
they did much more so for the Dodgers Championship during
COVID than when the Lakers won. But that whole thing
it rings kind of hollow to people that hunger and
crave for a real title and a real parade and
all of that stuff. So you look at that and say, well,
(24:20):
maybe this is how the NBA is they cowtowed to
Kobe at the end of his career and kind of
threw the roster up in the air and threw their
hands up in the air and said whatever. Fine. But
juxtaposed that against what the Lakers number one rival. The
thing that makes this look even worse the fact that
the Celtics are doing what they're doing and how did
(24:40):
they do it. They've had disappointments, they've had setbacks, they
had to fire their coach who was having an affair
or whatever with a hot mom some kind. But they
have consistency. They have the same players, they have the
same system. Role players know exactly what they're supposed to
(25:02):
do on any given night. Their rotations are very consistent.
Everybody has an idea of what's expected and from the
top all the way down, and it's the absolute opposite
of what the Lakers have. And the Celtics have superstars.
They have guys that are max contract, big time players,
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and they've figured it out and they've figured out how
to be there consistently on the top of the mountain
for the last few years. Now there's a cyclical thing
and saying this is their time and you know when
this guy gets old, it's not going to be that way.
But you look at the Celtics and you say, well,
that's how you do it in modern times, or the
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Nuggets or somebody like that. Keep the team together, keep
the coach there, keep the consistency, everybody knows what they're
supposed to do. And that's kind of the opposite of
how the Lakers operate. And that goes without saying. Even
Lebron couldn't argue that. So, yes, maybe it's a byproduct
of the modern NBA that if you get one of
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these superstars, you end up being kind of in their
fiefdom until they decide to grace you with a retirement tour.
But it doesn't have to be that way. The Celtics
existence this year especially proves that it doesn't, and it
makes it that much more bitter for the old Laker
guard that's used to, you know, the Red Armbach versus
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Jerry Buss type of days. As has been dramatized on
that show. They get really angry, not just because the
Lakers are so chaotic, but because the Celtics are the
exact opposite of that in real time right now.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Meanwhile, Petro's Jim Harbaugh just won a national chance.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
I saw him. He was in the Little league right
by my house.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, I was going to ask you, because it feels
like he's gotten a fraction of the coverage that JJ
Redding's gotten because of the kiss Laker media in this town.
So that being said, is he different? Have you noticed
any sort of a difference between him now after the
Michigan experience back when as opposed to before when you
used to talk with him and he used to come
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on and he used to call and try and get
interviews over at San Diego. Any difference with Jim Harbaugh
now that he's a national champion.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
He seems happy, right, I mean, at least in my opinion.
I've been around him twice now since he got the
Charger job, and he just seems really publicly comfortable and
enjoying life, enjoying living on the West Coast. I guess
he lives where all the cool people live, Manhattan Beach, California.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And he had a big lipper in it. He was
watching a little league game the other day that I saw,
and it's it's refreshing. He's a real person, whether or not.
I mean, it's I think It's really hard to compare
the coverage, because how much coverage of the Chargers ever get, right,
how much off season coverage to the Chargers get?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Is that because the Rams steal it? Is that more
of the organization.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Nobody carries that either nobody talks about them either unless
Stafford's wife says something to Stafford.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, and like talk about the past relationship stuff going
on there.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
What a lovely lady, and my apologies to him.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Why would you bring that up.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Because you think I don't already hear you say that,
because you think of yourself as the hero of the story.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
That's why, Like, what good can come from telling that story?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Was it her and Joe Cox or whatever?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Whoever?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Joe Cox was the backup who's now the tight end
coach at Old Miss for Lane Kiffin. And you know
he's looking at the mirror right now if he still
has a full head of red hair, and he's going,
that's right, right, Joe Cox, j C.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Baby, what good can come from that?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Brady? I don't know. I didn't play quarterback. I'm not
good looking. I was in a room with all black guys.
You know, we didn't have we didn't have like oh,
this girl's gonna date one of us, and then she's
gonna date the full back. You know, I think I'm
gonna start out with the every down guy, and then
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I'm gonna hook up with the third down guy, the
screen pass guy, the Texas raut guy.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And the guy just on special teams. Where does he
get it?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
He's like somewhere the special team. He's way down the line, right, I.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Mean, who dumps anybody for the special team?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Sell it?
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Nobody the special team? Zell It gets like a glass
eyed girl, you know, a glass eye she's been through
the war. You know, I don't know, to be honest, like,
let me, let's unpack this to start. First of all,
nobody covers the Chargers or the Rams because nobody cares
about them, and they get national coverage and they're great
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national brands and all that. But what's so sexy about, Hey,
Jim Harbaugh wants to run. You know, it's like, okay,
we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Run the ball.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
What's so sexy about look at this big, beautiful offensive
lineman that we drafted. I mean that it'll be sexy
if they start winning and he changes the culture there,
And that's one thing the Lakers are always a story
month and a month out, no matter what's happening, because well,
they were such a great franchise for all these years
and now they're just a dumpster fire again. I can't
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speak to the quarterback room with like the one really
good looking Brady Quinn type, and whoever's behind him and
who's dating who? I have no idea. Kelly Stafford is
a confounding personality in this town and all over the place,
and she usually when she says something dumb, she comes
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out and apologizes right away. Like remember last preseason she
was talking about how the none of the receivers or
they're all all on their phones and they won't talk
to Matt Stafford and he doesn't know how to relate
with these young players, and she had to come out
like right away and be like, guys, I made a
really big mistake. I said something she has had. You know,
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she hasn't done that this time, which is interesting. You know,
maybe some internal fighting or maybe a late night phone
call from joke cops. You've received a collect call from
Joe Park press one to except, dude, there used to
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be a coach at Cal that that was the decordinator
that I committed to and then left in the middle
of the night and humiliated myself, much like Stafford here
with his wife, and you know, it was like in
the early days of voicemail, you know, where like it
would have that kind of if you'd like to leave
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a message for, and everybody's like trying to figure it out.
It's like nineteen ninety three and his phone we used
to call it all at all hours because it was
so funny. His name was Artie Gigantino, and it's like,
if you'd like to leave a message for, please press
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what so anyway you're receiving a collect call from Oxford, Mississippi.
I don't know. I don't know what happened there. I
don't know. I got to be honest, I don't know.
I don't know what kind of conversation you have with
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your wife when she comes home from doing And that
wasn't even her podcast. That was somebody else's podcast. That
was Caitlin Bristow.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
She's not even making any money out of.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Some trash can chick from the back franchise?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Is that the path is that the path?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Now, like I meet people that are like, oh, I
was on Bachelor Bachelors Season.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I'm like, is that what happens in southern California?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Like, no, don't say no, because I've seen a lot
of people out there. They get asked to be on,
they're on for like a couple of episodes, they put
it on their their social media, and then they try
to get big on social media from that was a
part of the franchise.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I'm a part of.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It because they all want to be on pms. They
all want to be on with patrous money when they back.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
They all want to be like Matt Lioner with three
TikTok people, And I mean, what are we talking about.
That's the same thing. That's what they do. They hire
TikTok people and they go tiktoking. That's not how I
choose to live. I choose to live in.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Still in business that I thought they were getting shut
down or something.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
I don't know, as.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't I don't think he's following Congress and Wrother
they're going to shut down tip.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
I just don't know. Are you saying that Liner's not
up on current events?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know if he's read the news on it,
Like I mean, I think they've got six weeks.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
I know for a fact that first thing Liner does
is check all the sub stack stuff in the morning
and then he hits up the Wall Street Journal, reads
the London Times. Linerd is the biggest and most sophisticated
media personality in the world. Oh man, with a TikTok following.
All I'm saying is I just don't know. If you're
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Stafford and that podcast happens, you walk into the house
with the four little girls, It's like, you know, we
all went to college, we were all young at some point,
we were all in our twenties at some point. You know,
there's weird relationship overlap. People do this, people do that,
People find each other in interesting ways. But you have,
what four little girls and you're on a podcast talking
(34:51):
about how you use dated the backup to piss them off.
Yah ah, I mean what happens when you come home
that night? You know, hey, as you get the uncrustable,
you know, what do you say?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
You know?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Anyway? Another Caprice son, heye you do that Clayton Caitlin
Bristow podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, you can get patros on TikTok at Joe Cox,
I believe is where you can find him on TikTok
if you want to get a hold of all your
fun stuff and h and la reporting there from the
oldp on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
What if you're one of the tight ends and joke,
but if you're like the hand in the ground, third
tight end that comes in on the goal line and
you're like, hey, coach, did you really hit that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I mean, as you know from being in those scenarios,
you know exactly what you do the next morning after
that became public. If I was one of those, if
I was a quarterback on that team, I would have
printed off one hundred photos and plaster them all around
the tight end room and just somebody what he walks
in the it walks into the tight end room like
that's always seeks. That's how football is, like they we
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played jokes like that, We give each other a hard time.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
That's just how it works. Like that's probably what took
place to some degree there.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
So yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I mean I used to just get naked and put
a sheet on and run around the hallway screaming on
the hollow Man. When the hollow Man came out, I
swear I had a field day. I'm the hollow Man.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Petros Pape gives. He's the co host of the Petros
and Money Show, which you can hear on a five
seventy l A Sports The Blowtors also Fox college football analysts.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Are you've got to cluck call Petros, you gotta cut
the call.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Oh and I'm sorry I used the term dumpster fire twice.
Usually you know that's I'm just I'm a little foggy.
That's all right. If you'd like to accept to click
call from.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
H people will do it again.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
There'd be like a bat, say, like a phallic bat
signal in the sky and Stafford Stafford to look through
the Venetian blinds and see the Joe Cox signal in
the scot.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Uh be good stuff. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
There he is, Uh, Petros Pavedeks joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
The general manager of the Los Angeles Lakers, Rob Polenka,
who discussed I.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Wish I could send that text out to everyone.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
He just he discussed why they took Bronnie James all
the positives that come along with it, and really tried
to sell everybody on the idea of Bronnie James going
fifty five.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Overall, why that was the pick for the Lakers.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
In the history of the NBA, there's never been a
father and a son that have shared an NBA basketball court,
and that feels like something that could be magical. And
we know and have to respect, of course, that lebron
has a decision about his opt out, and I'm sure
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he and his family and his agent will deliberate what
they're going to do there, and of course he has
freedom to decide whatever's best for him and his family.
But if it worked out that he was on our
team next season, NBA history could be made, and NBA
history should be made in a Lakers uniform. Bronni is
first and foremost a person of high character, and second,
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he is a young man that works incredibly hard, and
those are the qualities we look for in drafting players
and adding to our developmental core the Lakers. He had
a great draft work out with us where he displayed
those qualities to me in an hour lunch that we
shared in the building just to get to know each other,
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became clear that he was a man of character in
terms of his work ethic. I think we've all seen
that lived out too. He's not a person that has
ever taken shortcuts or expected or been entitled about basketball opportunities.
He's worked for everything that he's gotten, including being selected
today at fifty five. So it's an honor for us
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to add him to our program. Coach Reddick is already
excited about putting a development plan around him to increase
his basketball skills and turn him into the player that
we think can impact and help this franchise.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Do you guys want to hear my draft profile on
Bronnie James?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I mean, does a start off with six foot one
and a half half?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, I mean it's very similar to what Rob Polinka
just said, high character, hard worker, last name James. Like
that's that's really where it comes to Bronnie James and
what he gets and what he's got going on for him.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Like the idea titlemits.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But this is the here's but here's the problem. And
this goes back to something that we've talked about before.
It would be I would have no issue if he
came out and said, yeah, look, we want him to
be able to play.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
With his dad.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
We look, you guys feel how you want to feel
about it, that's fine, But we as an organization want
that magic and that moment to happen here with us.
And that's why we made this pick because we think
there's some potential there. We're going to work with him
and hopefully that's something that can happen down the road.
But instead he's got to throw in well, hard work,
character high.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
It's like all no entitles stop. You got to make
sure you throw in no entitlement.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
It's the same thing when Lebron tries it, when they
try and tell people all, well, you know this is
not you know, he had no say in the JJ
Redick Higer.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
He didn't want to be involved.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like there was there was a story that came out
that Rich Paul, Lebron's agent was calling teams picking ahead
of the Lakers in the second rounds asking them not
to take Bronnie James because if you took him, he
was just.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Going to go play in Australia. Who was going to
take him?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Like there?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Like he was not going to get drafted if the
Lakers didn't.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Take That's cap, that's cat.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
But they but they try.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Calling around saying don't take him. That's so cap, that's
that's that's the biggest that's the biggest, baddest cap ever
in the history of biggest, baddest cap. That is not true.
That cannot be true at all. Who at what point
in time? I heard Chris Brussard on one of the promos,
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and I love Chris. I heard him on one of
the promos talking about at those points in the draft
when you get a pick, your pick is generally better
than that draft spot and that whole that might remain
true here from.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So former Warriors, former Warriors GM Bob Myers, who's on
ESPN's NBA coverage. He's the one who said that Rich
Paul is calling teams telling him don't take Brownie James.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
Do not take him.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
They take him. He's going to Australia.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Like it's just I mean, this is so good, this
is so don't take him, Like I'm calling, like listen,
I'm telling y'all, don't take this kid that's averaging two
points two point five points a game. Like what, right,
he's how tall? Y'all said, he's how tall? Six?
Speaker 6 (42:16):
What it would be like me one.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
That would be like me walking up to LeVar and saying, hey, man,
whatever you do, do not steal my car.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Exactly it, dude, I was like, whatever you do, don't
like he hit his alarm on his car one time
when I was getting out, I'm like, are you are
you like, first off, you don't need an alarm at
all for nobody. You can take that into the PJS.
Ain't nobody in the Jets taking that truck. That thing
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gonna be right where it stayed, right it is.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
It would be an interesting deal to hear the other
end of the line, Like when they called, you know,
they're like, hey, make sure not to They're probably like.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Right, they was looking at the phone for the call. Yeah,
but he made the call, so you can say he
made the call.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
But that night for letting us know, isn't that That's
what makes this nauseating to a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, but like the park.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Look, this is where I've been with the NBA forever.
The NBA, the entire league has allowed this to happen.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
This isn't like just a Lakers thing. It's not. They've
allowed clutch sports to have the clutch on the entire
league the way they do.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
They've they've allowed Lebron to do what he's done because
he is one of the greatest of all time. Like,
if we're being honest with ourselves, Michael Jordan probably had
equal amount of power way back then, even with the
commission that probably wasn't as I'm not gonna say subservient
like Adam Silver. But that's where we're at. Like this,
this league feels like they need to play into storylines
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like this in order to generate buzz, to generate Q.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
That may Rob Linka said it, he said it out
his mouth that the storyline was intriguing. You drafted this
man off of a storyline, tell you.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
But that's but like, why are we surprised? That's where
the NBA is at.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
And this is what happens when a league, which I
mean I would obviously the we're the game and how
it's being played now. I do think players are as
skilled as they've ever been, but it's getting to the
point where you feel like the three point shot something
there needs to be altered because it feels like the
game has just become kind of too spread out, too predictable,
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and how things are going to go and it's not
as great of a product to watch anymore. I'm sorry
if NBA purists and people who are fans get upset
with me for saying that. Look, I love the game
of basketball, but how the game is played now compared
to how it was fifteen years ago is dramatically different
and it doesn't feel like the same product or as.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Entertaining.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I'm sorry if that, If you would disagree with that,
that's just my opinion.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
But I feel like viewership decline would.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Equate to that as well, because you still have stars,
you still have some of these rivalries, and you could
even say, well, what about you know these you know,
players all getting together. That's fine, Like if you have
a big three hundred team, I don't care because it
creates this villain almost like where everyone expects that team
to win, so if they don't, it ends up, you know,
appeasing so many other people out there.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
So it still creates that storyline.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
The problem with the NBA is they've leaned so hard
into everything outside of basketball itself and these sorts of storylines.
I mean, I guess you could say, hey, the NFL
doesn't too, but not really. Once the season stars, it's
the season. It's the season we're not having a conversation
or we're talking in the off season about how this
move could impact their season, Like we're not talking about
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some of the stuff that goes on off the field
in almost any other sport, but the NBA's That's what
to me gets a little frustrating with it is You've
got as skilled with players as we've ever seen, and
we haven't really figured out what to do with it
to make it a bigger, bigger and better product for TV.
And I guess you can sit there and say, well,
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even though viewership's down, they people still keep networks, still
keep paying more money for it, so it must be
more valued. I actually think it's the I think it's
it's like our society has lost so much creativity.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
We don't have good sitcoms anymore, Like we have lost.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
The ability to come up with new thoughts, new shows,
new anything, and so were relying on like live sports,
relying on all that now instead of actually having a
show to tune in and watch. It's like, oh no,
if you don't have live sports, live news, like it's
got to be some of their appointment television that one
of these digital streaming platforms has created because the networks
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can't figure out how actually write a good TV show anymore.
I mean some of the game shows that are on
nowadays too, It's like, what the hell is this? It's
crazy to see where things have gotten at this point
as far as the NBA. But I think it's a
byproduct of a lot of things. But mostly they're owndoing
and allowing this to happen.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Those are such valid points. I mean, I think they
can't keep up with how good the content creators are
these days. Right, they're becoming the millionaires because they're creating
content that people are aren't just really really into and
just always checking back for. And they can't keep up
with it because they're they're small, small boats. They're not
(47:29):
big ships, right, But and and continuing just kind of
looking at that conversation for me, just you know, I was,
I was. I went through the mental gymnastics of is
it fair to do a comparison of say this was
Isaiah Thomas on on that Pistons team, Say it was
Rip Hamilton on that that Pistons team that won the championship,
(47:54):
Say it was Michael Jordan. And Michael Jordan did have
a son that played ball. He did y had two
two two of them say say that was the case
and in Chicago, and and Marcus h was coming out
or something to that that that point, How would he
be received by those players? How how would that look
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if you put in and what would like, let's just
be clear on this, an inferior player to the rest
of the guys on the roster, How would they How
would they react to that? How would they handle that?
If you have to cut somebody, which they're going to
cut people, how are you going to react to that
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when that man is still on the roster? How are
you going How are you going to feel internally as
a team when you're sitting there and people's heads is
on the chopping block and Bronnie James is sitting right
there in his locker, comfortable with no entitlements, hard work
and the last name James.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
And think about this. Michael Jordan owned a team. This
could have happened. He could have made a call and
be like, hey, I own this thing, like like you're
taking one of my sons. They're going to be a
part of this never happened. That's why I would argue
Lebron's probably got more power than Michael Jordan did in
the NBA because they happened.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
I said it earlier, I said he's the go to
goats in terms of business because this is the I'm
telling you, this is like some Oceans twelve, oceans eleven. Man,
he went in there and he stole it. He stole
pick fifty five. That's what it should be a Netflix
special one day called what is it? I don't know.
Pick fifty five, that's what it should be called Pick
(49:41):
fifty five. I just I don't get it. I don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I feel like though the commissioners under Jordan during his
era right, which was David Stern for the end.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Was a Russ Granick. I don't know, is that something
like who was before? It was a Larry o Larry Bryant,
Larry O'Brien, Larry O'Brien.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I feel like between Larry O'Brien and David Stern, they
were stronger commissioners of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
And as you know.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Michael Jordan became such a global brand combined with Nike
that really empowered NBA basketball players to make a good
portion of money too off the court, and even though
they make a ton playing there's also and I keep
bringing up the shoe opportunity because that's real.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
You know, NBA players can make so.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Much money on their marketing deals and globally going to
Chine on all these different international markets, and that that
can line their pockets more than anything else. It's what's
made Michael Jordan what a billionaire. It was his ability
to help elevate Nike. Without Michael Jordan, Nike's not Nike.
Like I'm sorry, I know. I mean, I've read Shoe Dogg,
(50:58):
I've heard Phil Knight's story. We could talk Steve Prefontaine
all we want, but Michael Jordan is what made Nike.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Nike, and Marcus Jordan is making bank off of being
a Michael Jordan uh person, Yeah so sure, so maybe.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
You get my point.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
It's like if you look from Larry O'Brien to David
Stern and the power of the NBA back then before
the shoe deals were as big, But as you looked
at Michael Jordan getting to the end of his career
after winning six championships and all of that, then it
became like, Okay, who's the next Mike When Michael was done,
and then we kept you know, Lebron and Kobe, and
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we looked for all these other guys, but then everyone
started getting their own shoe, and that's where you kind
of realize these players have leverage because it's not just
what they negotiate with their individual teams or any team
in the league. It's also the money they have flown
in and with different sponsors.
Speaker 7 (51:52):
But apparel create
Speaker 5 (51:53):
Point ye, great point man
This is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Airings and Brady Quinn and Jonas Knox
on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yep, go ahead, Brady Quinn, there you go. Panthers won
the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Go Cats get That was an awesome game. Come on then,
anyone who watched that it was. It was a great game.
You kind of felt like Edmonton at some point was
going to get a goal in the in the third
period until I thought the last two to three minutes
and you heard Sean McDonough say it, they looked ghasted.
(00:40):
There was just times when they so many of their stars,
in particular econom McDavid, they just stayed out on the ice,
you know, almost play the entire game.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
And it's everything you love about sport.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It's everything you love about you know, a game seven
like that where guys are putting it all out there,
they're leaving everything out there for the sake of competition,
trying to win a championship. And it's unfortunate for Conor McDavid,
who's the best hockey player in the world and yet
the Stanley Cup still eludes him.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
But for the Florida Panthers.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
An organization that if you look at what Vincent Viola
has done their new owner. And I can speak to
this firsthand because he should be a beacon of life
for every poor franchise out there that's.
Speaker 4 (01:25):
That's been awful. This is what good ownership can do.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It can literally transform a team that was an afterthought
that when you'd go to games there was a lot
of fans dressed up like seats. That's when they shoot
out the T shirt cannon, there was a greater likelihood
it would have hit an empty seat as opposed to
a fan. And he's completely transformed that South Florida market
(01:51):
back to kind of some of their earlier days. I
think if you go back in the nineties, there's folks
when they used to play down in Miami who would
have said, like, hey, this was a fun for franchise,
one that you know, had had some had some runs
of success, but nothing like these in the last few years.
And and so credit to him, credit to Barry Zito,
(02:11):
Matt Caldwell, all the all the people who are involved.
Because they've built up this roster, they've built up this team.
They they built in a fan base where I mean
you felt that place was absolutely electrical last night.
Speaker 5 (02:23):
It really was.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And they've got a tremendous team, So happy for man.
I mean, I've watched, I'm telling you, I've watched that
team go from the depths of the NHL now obviously
to the pinnacle and it's been incredible to watch them
to really transform and do it.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
HM, were you waiting on me?
Speaker 6 (02:43):
You know you were waiting on I mean, I just
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
I feel like this was one of those those topics
where Q covered it so well. I mean, what else
am I going to? What else am I going to
bring to?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
We did have a side that last night LaVar As
Jonas and I were watching. We had a side belt.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
We're like, is LeVar watching?
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is he actually gonna watch this?
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Oh? I did watch, you know, I'll say this. I
moved my daughter into into her college dorm yesterday. It
was very it was a very, very busy day. But
I did watch. But what exactly am I supposed to
bring to the conversation? I think you've covered it all.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
So when the game starts and Florida scores pretty early,
I'm like, Oh, here we go. Is it's gonna turn it?
And then Edmonton responds right back. I'm like, all right,
this is a game seven. Yes, serious, this is this
is what we needed. This is the game seven. Now
is there outrage for the fact that Connor McDavid did
win the con smythe and he was on the losing team, which,
(03:43):
as Eddie pointed out, only the second non goalie to
have that happen in the history of the NHL.
Speaker 6 (03:48):
And it's been a long time since that's happened.
Speaker 7 (03:50):
So was it grooved?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I would I would be curious to ask Eddie because
I personally didn't have a problem with it. The only
thing I'd say was, but Connor McDavid that impact because
he's just the best player and everyone knows.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
We talked about it, my brother in law was here,
we were talking about it last night.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
But he didn't have the impact, at least in the
box score, that you would have hoped for from it.
I mean, Florida did such an amazing job defensively against
him to not even allow him even get a shot
on goal, and there's somebody to be said for that.
So even though I think you'd say, oh, what about Barbrovski, Well,
there was some times where he really struggled in this series,
(04:29):
So I can see why Connor McDavid gets it, because
even schematically, it changed everything Florida could do. I mean, Barkov,
who's a really good defensive or good defenseman offensively speaking,
though like he could go and score. I mean, he
kind of just focused defensive and trying to eliminate Connor
McDavid there on the ice together. But he's a guy
(04:51):
that typically can play more of a role offensively, which
is something you see now from today's defenseman in hockey.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
You know, back in the old.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Days, you would just be, you know, you're trying to
take guys out and play defense and make sure you
know guys ahead of you go score.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
But with Barkov, I think he literally kind of changed up,
you know, is the entire game plan around that one
McDavid's on the ice because he's just that special of
a player. So I didn't have an issue with it.
I'd be more curious because Eddie's more of a NHL purist,
you know, did.
Speaker 5 (05:20):
He bombed that too?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Like was there more of a thought of like, hey,
he didn't have as big of an impact in the
box score, And that's one of the reasons why people
might have had an issue.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
With it, Edmund, your thoughts on Connor McDavid. A fine
award for a fine irishman who took it home last night,
although losing any.
Speaker 8 (05:41):
Games even well, it's a little weird because he didn't
do anything in the last two games, so that, you know,
kind of leaves an interesting taste in your mouth. He
did have an amazing entire postseason and it is it's
supposed to be the MVP of the entire playoffs.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Okay, Now, if.
Speaker 8 (05:56):
Somebody for Florida would have kind of really stepped up,
you know, because it was I mean, they were the
better team. That's why I picked him, you know at
the beginning of the of the series to win the Cup,
go get but if you know, and Butbrovsky after the
first three games, they were ready to put his name
on it. But then they had the next three games
and that took his name and uh, I mean, he
(06:22):
had he had a he had the great game when
it counted most. But there wasn't really anybody for Florida
who really stood out. And you're like, well, that's the guy.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
If they win, they have them what the most assist this? Uh,
the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 8 (06:34):
It was fourth most points ever in the postseason.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
I still can't get over the fact that they had
literally had more goals on the pedally kill than like
goals if they allowed power play goals.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
I was like, how is that possible?
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I mean, it's supposed to be your your special teams,
your advantage, right, and they literally flipped the script like
that was you. You could talk about the series for
a while, there was and things that stood out. That
was the first thing to me. How amazing Edmonton was.
The entire Stanley Cup and in particular series on the
power Play kill. It was unbelievable. How do you guys
view this?
Speaker 5 (07:11):
If Atmington were to have actually pulled it out with
the comeback that they made, and it's huge for Canada, right.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Oh, it would have been great, I mean would have
been great.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
We saw one Oilers fan how excited she was. That'd
have been the entire country.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
I mean, you know, all of a sudden, it's years
ninety three. Was the last time a Canadian team was.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
With their hand?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Yeah, Patrick Waugh, Eddie's La Kings.
Speaker 8 (07:37):
Didn't you didn't need to include that.
Speaker 6 (07:38):
I'm just with simply stated, I'm still upset with you.
Speaker 7 (07:41):
That you.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I swear to god, I didn't change the song like
I will take a lie detector test.
Speaker 6 (07:47):
I swear to god I had nothing to.
Speaker 8 (07:49):
Do with Can you get the light detector out please?
We're gonna him up in between break.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I've actually already sent the message to Veto asking why
he would do such a thing. I don't want to
reveal what I know until later on the show, but
Jonas contin didn't tease it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
But I do have some inside info on this.
Speaker 7 (08:06):
Oh wow, what is this?
Speaker 6 (08:09):
What's going on behind the scenes here?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
I can't I would tell you to later portion of
the show and I'll explain what I believe or who
I believe.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Is the culprit.
Speaker 6 (08:20):
Okay, fair enough, that makes all the sense in the world.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
It was a very corny opening song.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
It is a song.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was a what's so is it? Because it's well,
it was just a corny it's a corn I mean,
it's a cool song, but it's a corny song.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
I mean, what were you doing when that song came out?
Because I'm trying to think of how old I was
when I came out.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I don't remember.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
Oh, you had to have been like in college. Is
that like from the nineties, like early nineties.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
I don't hold on. I'm gonna look it up, but
I don't. I don't. I don't remember one hundred percent
what I was doing when that song came out.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
I see, when did it come to ninety six?
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Yeah? I was in high school. I was, I was,
I was in high school. Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I mean that ninety six was a good year. It
was a good year. But I don't remember. I don't
recall what I was doing in that song.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
Case.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Wait a second, the guy, the singer of that song
was born in Germany.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
You couldn't tell by his accident.
Speaker 7 (09:27):
No, I couldn't.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
I'm sorry. I couldn't return to.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
The max exactly where you're from. But I know he
wasn't from here.
Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I didn't know Ramstein did a cover of that, So no,
I couldn't tell that he was German. Oh yeah, apparently
I need.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Uh say it. Say what you want to say, someone
want to say.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I didn't know blacks lived in Germany. That's well, that's
what you wanted to say. That's what you wanted to say.
Black people do live in the UK.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
Hey, No, listen, all good, you know, dang bro all good?
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I just you know, I wasn't expecting that, But nonetheless,
we'll we'll maybe get to the bottom of that throughout
the course of the show as to who was responsible
for switching up and ripping Sanford and Son from the
airway going.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
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(11:06):
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Speaker 2 (11:15):
So normally on Wednesdays at eight twenty Eastern time, five
twenty Pacific, the old p Petros Papadeka stops by, but
due to high demand, he's being asked to come on
even earlier, so we turn it over now to Petros Papadakas.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
(11:38):
which you can hear on the Blowtorch and five seven
e LA Sports, Fox college football analysts and our good
buddy Pee.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
What's happening?
Speaker 7 (11:47):
Good morning, Hello, Hello to everybody, Good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
Hello, Petros.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
We need you to try and clear up some confusion
for us here on the show if you could, Okay,
all right? So jj Reddick had the press conference is
introductory press conference with the LA media, and somebody was
in the background like yelling in support of JJ Reddick.
Speaker 7 (12:12):
Yes, somebody asked me that yesterday. I don't know who
it was.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Do you have a guess? Is it in the top three?
Speaker 7 (12:22):
No. We were on live for that though, because the
Dodgers are in Chicago, so we were on for the
second half of the press conference and it was pretty remarkable.
We were there for the double F bomb?
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Did that?
Speaker 7 (12:41):
The Guardian asked a question, Well, you know how the
dump button works, right, So like the dump button's kind
of like a like a water pressure mechanism or a
hydraulic thing, like it needs to be reset. Right, So
you drop one F bomb, we dump it, and then
it's got to be reset. We dump another one. If
(13:01):
he dropped the third, it was getting on air. Yeah,
you know, I don't think JJ Reddick knows that or cares,
but it was pretty funny, you know, like, hey, do
you care about all the people saying disparage things about you? No?
I don't effing care. I want to be the effing coach.
It's like, all right, well it seems like when you
(13:24):
start dropping F bombs, it seems like you care a
little bit. But yeah, the Lakers hire JJ Reddick, and
we had the press conference and now they're going to
talk about it all summer long. It'll be a whole
thing and they remain in the twenty four hour pantheon
of what did what did JJ Reddick call it? Engagement
(13:44):
farming industry? Yeah? Yes, yes, thanks Ale, which a part
of yeah he was, Yeah, And they'll be a and
instead of being a coach which was his lifelong dream.
Quote unquote, so if your life on dream as a coach,
you go coach, you go coach at Memphis or something
like Luke Walton. But anyway, we had that whole thing
(14:08):
and we all survived, and now they'll be part of
the engagement farming industry. Everything he does, everything he says,
everybody hires, every chivato around the corner, watching everything you do,
everything you think chiev It will be like that all
all summer long, except for the Olympics. We have the Olympics,
that is right.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
We've got that to look forward to, which will be
awesome when it comes. But until then, we've got you
Petros and we've got the Lakers. And I've got to
ask you this because I think you'd agree, like this
was Lebron's higher that he wanted for head coach.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Is that fair to say?
Speaker 7 (14:45):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
And now you have claimed that you've been bent over
a barrel, not my words, those are your words. Do
you expect to get bent over a barrel as well?
By JJ Reddick, There'll be two men bending you and
Matt money Smith over a barrel.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Now for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
It's not Matt Mundy Smith and I who are being
forced against our will by Lebron James. It's everybody.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Everyone's being a bed over Beryl.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
There's been a bunch of coopers who are like just
overtime working to make enough barrels for us all.
Speaker 7 (15:21):
The game over.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
So are you saying Petres at year Z and not
Marcellus in pulp fiction? Is that what you're saying? You're
just watching it happen.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
That's an interesting question. I don't feel like I'm being
nailed by the king, you know what I mean. Like,
I don't feel like the King is laboring over me
in the Victory Motel in Glendale, you know, you know
what I mean. But it feels like he's doing that
to the entire basketball globe, right, And I guess I'm sorry.
(15:56):
It's a little earlier than normal, so I'm a little foggy,
and I was up kind of late last night. But
let me try and make this as clear as possible.
I think about and I tried to make this analogy
on the show and it didn't work, but I'm gonna
try it again. Think of like nineteen sixties nineteen seventies
American foreign influence right now, and think of the Lakers
(16:23):
as some weird South American or Central American country with
leadership that is somehow in limbo between communism and capitalism
in the sixties and seventies. So let's say the Lakers
are like Nicaragua. Okay, the puppet government installed by the
(16:46):
CIA is who Jj Reddick and Rob Polinka? Who's the CIA?
Lebron Paul No, yeah, Lebron, yes, yeah, yes. So we
basically go through all these weird motions, acting like there's
(17:07):
been an election, acting like this is the will of
the public, acting like the Lakers went and did their
due diligence while trying to hire a head coach. We
sit there and talk about quote unquote installing an offense,
sit there and talk about quote unquote player development, sit
there and talk about, you know, competing for a championship
(17:27):
and all these things, when really it's all just Lebron, Lebron,
Lebron and whatever Lebron wants, and the fact that we're
all doing this and everybody sat there with a straight face,
and he said that he didn't talk to Lebron, and
then they're gonna do this whole thing about Bronnie James.
You know, they're gonna draft Bronnie James, and they're gonna
act like Lebron had nothing to do with it, and
(17:50):
the whole media is going to march, at least the
two three dozen people that are subjects of the King,
They're going to do their thing and spin it that
way and talk about how JJ reddicks somehow pat Riley
or JJ reddicks this innovative basketball mind. If JJ Redick
wanted to coach, he should have gone into coaching. But
(18:12):
he didn't have to to become the Laker head coach.
Why because Lebron had him installed. It's the most clear
thing in the world. Yet it's almost too simple and
too upsetting and to tofamatory to say, yes, this is
all Lebron's decision. Lebron is doing all of this. Lebron
(18:32):
is pulling all these strings. He's able to do it
with the Lakers because of their week leadership. He's able
to install a coach with absolutely no experience beyond coaching
a fourth grade team, and they actually put that up
on the ticker, like beyond coaching youth basketball is like,
I mean, that's the same credentials as like half the
men in my neighborhood. For God, sake, you know, it's
(18:56):
pretty amazing. And then we just all just say, hey,
this great, and oh I love how he dropped an
f bob, look at how irreverend he was, and it's
just like, wow, Uh, this was Uh, it was interesting,
but it was basically a foregone conclusion. It was something
we've been talking about for months. And if they really
wanted Danny Hurley, they wouldn't have low balled him.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Uh that's I guess that's the part that I find
that I would almost have more respect and it wouldn't
bother me as much if Lebron just came out and said, yeah,
this is the guy that I wanted, and yes, I
did want them to draft my son. It's the fact
that the pretend game of well, no, none of that
is the case. His entire career, He's tried to dictate
(19:37):
to the organization what he wants. Coaches, fired players, traded
his entire career, like I don't like. I think a
lot of us if we had that sort of influence,
we'd probably want that sort of influence on.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
Certain things, like I would. I don't mind that.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
As much as the whole the act of oh, I.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Don't know he in my face and tell me it's raised.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Yeah, like I don't I don't get. And then you watch.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
After the press conference, JJ, Reddick go and shake hands
with members of the media.
Speaker 7 (20:04):
Oh, and they all go and kiss his ass and
who It's like when the president. It's like when the
State of the Union and everybody calls like.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
This is supposed to be media and they're all fanboys
and fangirls.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
And laughing and shaking hands and lining up to shake
hands watch his balls And while those two f bombs
were really pointed in the moment, JJ, Wow, that was awesome,
you know, And maybe he'll end up being a great coach.
Who's to say, Like, he's definitely not a stupid guy.
I mean, he's definitely a guy that can communicate, and
(20:38):
I'm sure that he knows basketball in a very complex
and real way. But even saying all that, and let's
just say he was a real coach, let's just say
he was a guy with a quote unquote offensive system.
What does that mean, by the way, I mean, you
just hand the ball to Lebron and do what Lebron says,
(21:00):
your rotations, whatever Lebron says, What do you I mean,
it's it's asinine that we have to go through these
motions as a media, and I've resented it since we started,
and it will continue because they hired a guy with
no experience, so it'll be a story, like I said,
all summer long and into the season, and you know,
(21:20):
it's like the longso Ball era or the end of
the Kobe Bryant contract, the last one. It's kind of
like the Lakers will be relevant, but they won't be
relevant because they're good. They'll be relevant because it's the
Lakers and it's a and it's a dumpster fire.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
Is this a byproduct though, of how the league works?
I mean, the NBA is propped up, I guess as
I compare it to like the NFL. For example, we
can have someone like Tom Brady, who is the greatest
or has the greatest resume in NFL history, is the
goat retire and then someone immediately is stepping in behind
(22:01):
him and Patrick Mahomes to try to dethrone him, like
immediately right, and then maybe there's a little rivalry too
at the end of Tom's career with Patrick Mahomes coming on.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
But like the NFL.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Seems to continue to sustain and move forward and not
really have that hit of losing superstars. Like the NBA
differs where Lebron means that much to the NBA obviously
with the way they go about scheduling, the way they
go about the news of the off season, where he's
gonna be, and everything that's propped up this NBA draft.
(22:33):
I mean, honestly, the biggest talking point of the NBA
draft has been Bronnie James. And obviously it's a byproduct
of Lebron James because maybe that impacts where he goes.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
But I guess the question I'm getting.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
To is, as much as we want to bemoan about
what Lebron has done or hasn't done, Like, isn't that
kind of just how the NBA works, Like we kind
of blame him, But like if we're going to compare
him to Michael Jordan, if Michael Jordan was doing this,
would you have an issue with it too? If that
was if his son, you know, and he had the
chance to play with his son and all that.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
Yeah, yeah, the son part. Yes, Michael Jordan did have
a son, you know, but he didn't.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Play it long enough and his son didn't have you
know what I'm saying to.
Speaker 7 (23:14):
That, I mean, played in Central Florida. He's probably a
lot better at college at the end of the day
than Browny. You no, I take your point. Is it
more of a byproduct of the NBA. Well, you're speaking
of the individual superstar nature of the NBA. It's the
model they built, like this is what I mean, one
of these guys. Well maybe, but look at I mean,
the best thing to do with the Lakers and figure
(23:36):
out why they're in such tumult and why it's been
such an issue. And the COVID Championship that everybody leans
on is another weird talking point that everybody just yeah,
everybody just says and nobody believes, you know, And you
could say the same thing about even though it was
in front of people the Dodger Championship when they won,
and even though the city went crazy like they did,
(24:00):
they did much more so for the Dodgers Championship during
COVID than when the Lakers won. But that whole thing
it rings kind of hollow to people that hunger and
crave for a real title and a real parade and
all of that stuff. So you look at that and say, well,
(24:20):
maybe this is how the NBA is they cowtowed to
Kobe at the end of his career and kind of
threw the roster up in the air and threw their
hands up in the air and said whatever. Fine. But
juxtaposed that against what the Lakers number one rival. The
thing that makes this look even worse the fact that
the Celtics are doing what they're doing and how did
(24:40):
they do it. They've had disappointments, they've had setbacks, they
had to fire their coach who was having an affair
or whatever with a hot mom some kind. But they
have consistency. They have the same players, they have the
same system. Role players know exactly what they're supposed to
(25:02):
do on any given night. Their rotations are very consistent.
Everybody has an idea of what's expected and from the
top all the way down, and it's the absolute opposite
of what the Lakers have. And the Celtics have superstars.
They have guys that are max contract, big time players,
(25:26):
and they've figured it out and they've figured out how
to be there consistently on the top of the mountain
for the last few years. Now there's a cyclical thing
and saying this is their time and you know when
this guy gets old, it's not going to be that way.
But you look at the Celtics and you say, well,
that's how you do it in modern times, or the
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Nuggets or somebody like that. Keep the team together, keep
the coach there, keep the consistency, everybody knows what they're
supposed to do. And that's kind of the opposite of
how the Lakers operate. And that goes without saying. Even
Lebron couldn't argue that. So, yes, maybe it's a byproduct
of the modern NBA that if you get one of
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these superstars, you end up being kind of in their
fiefdom until they decide to grace you with a retirement tour.
But it doesn't have to be that way. The Celtics
existence this year especially proves that it doesn't, and it
makes it that much more bitter for the old Laker
guard that's used to, you know, the Red Armbach versus
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Jerry Buss type of days. As has been dramatized on
that show. They get really angry, not just because the
Lakers are so chaotic, but because the Celtics are the
exact opposite of that in real time right now.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Meanwhile, Petro's Jim Harbaugh just won a national chance.
Speaker 7 (26:51):
I saw him. He was in the Little league right
by my house.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Okay, I was going to ask you, because it feels
like he's gotten a fraction of the coverage that JJ
Redding's gotten because of the kiss Laker media in this town.
So that being said, is he different? Have you noticed
any sort of a difference between him now after the
Michigan experience back when as opposed to before when you
used to talk with him and he used to come
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on and he used to call and try and get
interviews over at San Diego. Any difference with Jim Harbaugh
now that he's a national champion.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
He seems happy, right, I mean, at least in my opinion.
I've been around him twice now since he got the
Charger job, and he just seems really publicly comfortable and
enjoying life, enjoying living on the West Coast. I guess
he lives where all the cool people live, Manhattan Beach, California.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Right.
Speaker 7 (27:46):
And he had a big lipper in it. He was
watching a little league game the other day that I saw,
and it's it's refreshing. He's a real person, whether or not.
I mean, it's I think It's really hard to compare
the coverage, because how much coverage of the Chargers ever get, right,
how much off season coverage to the Chargers get?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
Is that because the Rams steal it? Is that more
of the organization.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Nobody carries that either nobody talks about them either unless
Stafford's wife says something to Stafford.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Yeah, and like talk about the past relationship stuff going
on there.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
What a lovely lady, and my apologies to him.
Speaker 4 (28:23):
Why would you bring that up.
Speaker 7 (28:25):
Because you think I don't already hear you say that,
because you think of yourself as the hero of the story.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
That's why, Like, what good can come from telling that story?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Was it her and Joe Cox or whatever?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Whoever?
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Joe Cox was the backup who's now the tight end
coach at Old Miss for Lane Kiffin. And you know
he's looking at the mirror right now if he still
has a full head of red hair, and he's going,
that's right, right, Joe Cox, j C.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Baby, what good can come from that?
Speaker 7 (29:02):
Brady? I don't know. I didn't play quarterback. I'm not
good looking. I was in a room with all black guys.
You know, we didn't have we didn't have like oh,
this girl's gonna date one of us, and then she's
gonna date the full back. You know, I think I'm
gonna start out with the every down guy, and then
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I'm gonna hook up with the third down guy, the
screen pass guy, the Texas raut guy.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And the guy just on special teams. Where does he
get it?
Speaker 3 (29:31):
He's like somewhere the special team. He's way down the line, right, I.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Mean, who dumps anybody for the special team?
Speaker 4 (29:41):
Sell it?
Speaker 7 (29:41):
Nobody the special team? Zell It gets like a glass
eyed girl, you know, a glass eye she's been through
the war. You know, I don't know, to be honest, like,
let me, let's unpack this to start. First of all,
nobody covers the Chargers or the Rams because nobody cares
about them, and they get national coverage and they're great
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national brands and all that. But what's so sexy about, Hey,
Jim Harbaugh wants to run. You know, it's like, okay,
we're gonna.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Run the ball.
Speaker 7 (30:10):
What's so sexy about look at this big, beautiful offensive
lineman that we drafted. I mean that it'll be sexy
if they start winning and he changes the culture there,
And that's one thing the Lakers are always a story
month and a month out, no matter what's happening, because well,
they were such a great franchise for all these years
and now they're just a dumpster fire again. I can't
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speak to the quarterback room with like the one really
good looking Brady Quinn type, and whoever's behind him and
who's dating who? I have no idea. Kelly Stafford is
a confounding personality in this town and all over the place,
and she usually when she says something dumb, she comes
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out and apologizes right away. Like remember last preseason she
was talking about how the none of the receivers or
they're all all on their phones and they won't talk
to Matt Stafford and he doesn't know how to relate
with these young players, and she had to come out
like right away and be like, guys, I made a
really big mistake. I said something she has had. You know,
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she hasn't done that this time, which is interesting. You know,
maybe some internal fighting or maybe a late night phone
call from joke cops. You've received a collect call from
Joe Park press one to except, dude, there used to
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be a coach at Cal that that was the decordinator
that I committed to and then left in the middle
of the night and humiliated myself, much like Stafford here
with his wife, and you know, it was like in
the early days of voicemail, you know, where like it
would have that kind of if you'd like to leave
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a message for, and everybody's like trying to figure it out.
It's like nineteen ninety three and his phone we used
to call it all at all hours because it was
so funny. His name was Artie Gigantino, and it's like,
if you'd like to leave a message for, please press
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what so anyway you're receiving a collect call from Oxford, Mississippi.
I don't know. I don't know what happened there. I
don't know. I got to be honest, I don't know.
I don't know what kind of conversation you have with
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your wife when she comes home from doing And that
wasn't even her podcast. That was somebody else's podcast. That
was Caitlin Bristow.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
She's not even making any money out of.
Speaker 7 (32:58):
Some trash can chick from the back franchise?
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Is that the path is that the path?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Now, like I meet people that are like, oh, I
was on Bachelor Bachelors Season.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
I'm like, is that what happens in southern California?
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Like, no, don't say no, because I've seen a lot
of people out there. They get asked to be on,
they're on for like a couple of episodes, they put
it on their their social media, and then they try
to get big on social media from that was a
part of the franchise.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
I'm a part of.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It because they all want to be on pms. They
all want to be on with patrous money when they back.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
They all want to be like Matt Lioner with three
TikTok people, And I mean, what are we talking about.
That's the same thing. That's what they do. They hire
TikTok people and they go tiktoking. That's not how I
choose to live. I choose to live in.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Still in business that I thought they were getting shut
down or something.
Speaker 7 (33:54):
I don't know, as.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
I don't I don't think he's following Congress and Wrother
they're going to shut down tip.
Speaker 7 (34:01):
I just don't know. Are you saying that Liner's not
up on current events?
Speaker 3 (34:05):
I don't know if he's read the news on it,
Like I mean, I think they've got six weeks.
Speaker 7 (34:09):
I know for a fact that first thing Liner does
is check all the sub stack stuff in the morning
and then he hits up the Wall Street Journal, reads
the London Times. Linerd is the biggest and most sophisticated
media personality in the world. Oh man, with a TikTok following.
All I'm saying is I just don't know. If you're
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Stafford and that podcast happens, you walk into the house
with the four little girls, It's like, you know, we
all went to college, we were all young at some point,
we were all in our twenties at some point. You know,
there's weird relationship overlap. People do this, people do that,
People find each other in interesting ways. But you have,
what four little girls and you're on a podcast talking
(34:51):
about how you use dated the backup to piss them off.
Yah ah, I mean what happens when you come home
that night? You know, hey, as you get the uncrustable,
you know, what do you say?
Speaker 1 (35:04):
You know?
Speaker 7 (35:06):
Anyway? Another Caprice son, heye you do that Clayton Caitlin
Bristow podcast.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, you can get patros on TikTok at Joe Cox,
I believe is where you can find him on TikTok
if you want to get a hold of all your
fun stuff and h and la reporting there from the
oldp on Twitter.
Speaker 7 (35:27):
What if you're one of the tight ends and joke,
but if you're like the hand in the ground, third
tight end that comes in on the goal line and
you're like, hey, coach, did you really hit that?
Speaker 3 (35:41):
I mean, as you know from being in those scenarios,
you know exactly what you do the next morning after
that became public. If I was one of those, if
I was a quarterback on that team, I would have
printed off one hundred photos and plaster them all around
the tight end room and just somebody what he walks
in the it walks into the tight end room like
that's always seeks. That's how football is, like they we
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played jokes like that, We give each other a hard time.
Speaker 4 (36:04):
That's just how it works. Like that's probably what took
place to some degree there.
Speaker 7 (36:09):
I hope.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
So yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:11):
I mean I used to just get naked and put
a sheet on and run around the hallway screaming on
the hollow Man. When the hollow Man came out, I
swear I had a field day. I'm the hollow Man.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Petros Pape gives. He's the co host of the Petros
and Money Show, which you can hear on a five
seventy l A Sports The Blowtors also Fox college football analysts.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Are you've got to cluck call Petros, you gotta cut
the call.
Speaker 7 (36:42):
Oh and I'm sorry I used the term dumpster fire twice.
Usually you know that's I'm just I'm a little foggy.
That's all right. If you'd like to accept to click
call from.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
H people will do it again.
Speaker 7 (36:58):
There'd be like a bat, say, like a phallic bat
signal in the sky and Stafford Stafford to look through
the Venetian blinds and see the Joe Cox signal in
the scot.
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Uh be good stuff. We'll do it again next week.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
There he is, Uh, Petros Pavedeks joining us here on
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
The general manager of the Los Angeles Lakers, Rob Polenka,
who discussed I.
Speaker 5 (37:33):
Wish I could send that text out to everyone.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
He just he discussed why they took Bronnie James all
the positives that come along with it, and really tried
to sell everybody on the idea of Bronnie James going
fifty five.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Overall, why that was the pick for the Lakers.
Speaker 9 (37:51):
In the history of the NBA, there's never been a
father and a son that have shared an NBA basketball court,
and that feels like something that could be magical. And
we know and have to respect, of course, that lebron
has a decision about his opt out, and I'm sure
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he and his family and his agent will deliberate what
they're going to do there, and of course he has
freedom to decide whatever's best for him and his family.
But if it worked out that he was on our
team next season, NBA history could be made, and NBA
history should be made in a Lakers uniform. Bronni is
first and foremost a person of high character, and second,
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he is a young man that works incredibly hard, and
those are the qualities we look for in drafting players
and adding to our developmental core the Lakers. He had
a great draft work out with us where he displayed
those qualities to me in an hour lunch that we
shared in the building just to get to know each other,
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became clear that he was a man of character in
terms of his work ethic. I think we've all seen
that lived out too. He's not a person that has
ever taken shortcuts or expected or been entitled about basketball opportunities.
He's worked for everything that he's gotten, including being selected
today at fifty five. So it's an honor for us
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to add him to our program. Coach Reddick is already
excited about putting a development plan around him to increase
his basketball skills and turn him into the player that
we think can impact and help this franchise.
Speaker 6 (39:29):
Do you guys want to hear my draft profile on
Bronnie James?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I mean, does a start off with six foot one
and a half half?
Speaker 2 (39:36):
No, I mean it's very similar to what Rob Polinka
just said, high character, hard worker, last name James. Like
that's that's really where it comes to Bronnie James and
what he gets and what he's got going on for him.
Speaker 5 (39:49):
Like the idea titlemits.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
But this is the here's but here's the problem. And
this goes back to something that we've talked about before.
It would be I would have no issue if he
came out and said, yeah, look, we want him to
be able to play.
Speaker 6 (40:05):
With his dad.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
We look, you guys feel how you want to feel
about it, that's fine, But we as an organization want
that magic and that moment to happen here with us.
And that's why we made this pick because we think
there's some potential there. We're going to work with him
and hopefully that's something that can happen down the road.
But instead he's got to throw in well, hard work,
character high.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
It's like all no entitles stop. You got to make
sure you throw in no entitlement.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
It's the same thing when Lebron tries it, when they
try and tell people all, well, you know this is
not you know, he had no say in the JJ
Redick Higer.
Speaker 6 (40:37):
He didn't want to be involved.
Speaker 7 (40:38):
Stop.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Like there was there was a story that came out
that Rich Paul, Lebron's agent was calling teams picking ahead
of the Lakers in the second rounds asking them not
to take Bronnie James because if you took him, he
was just.
Speaker 6 (40:52):
Going to go play in Australia. Who was going to
take him?
Speaker 7 (40:56):
Like there?
Speaker 6 (40:57):
Like he was not going to get drafted if the
Lakers didn't.
Speaker 5 (40:59):
Take That's cap, that's cat.
Speaker 6 (41:01):
But they but they try.
Speaker 5 (41:02):
Calling around saying don't take him. That's so cap, that's
that's that's the biggest that's the biggest, baddest cap ever
in the history of biggest, baddest cap. That is not true.
That cannot be true at all. Who at what point
in time? I heard Chris Brussard on one of the promos,
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and I love Chris. I heard him on one of
the promos talking about at those points in the draft
when you get a pick, your pick is generally better
than that draft spot and that whole that might remain
true here from.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
So former Warriors, former Warriors GM Bob Myers, who's on
ESPN's NBA coverage. He's the one who said that Rich
Paul is calling teams telling him don't take Brownie James.
Speaker 7 (41:50):
Do not take him.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
They take him. He's going to Australia.
Speaker 5 (41:56):
Like it's just I mean, this is so good, this
is so don't take him, Like I'm calling, like listen,
I'm telling y'all, don't take this kid that's averaging two
points two point five points a game. Like what, right,
he's how tall? Y'all said, he's how tall? Six?
Speaker 6 (42:16):
What it would be like me one.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
That would be like me walking up to LeVar and saying, hey, man,
whatever you do, do not steal my car.
Speaker 5 (42:24):
Exactly it, dude, I was like, whatever you do, don't
like he hit his alarm on his car one time
when I was getting out, I'm like, are you are
you like, first off, you don't need an alarm at
all for nobody. You can take that into the PJS.
Ain't nobody in the Jets taking that truck. That thing
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gonna be right where it stayed, right it is.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
It would be an interesting deal to hear the other
end of the line, Like when they called, you know,
they're like, hey, make sure not to They're probably like.
Speaker 5 (42:58):
Right, they was looking at the phone for the call. Yeah,
but he made the call, so you can say he
made the call.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
But that night for letting us know, isn't that That's
what makes this nauseating to a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Yeah, but like the park.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Look, this is where I've been with the NBA forever.
The NBA, the entire league has allowed this to happen.
Speaker 4 (43:21):
This isn't like just a Lakers thing. It's not. They've
allowed clutch sports to have the clutch on the entire
league the way they do.
Speaker 3 (43:30):
They've they've allowed Lebron to do what he's done because
he is one of the greatest of all time. Like,
if we're being honest with ourselves, Michael Jordan probably had
equal amount of power way back then, even with the
commission that probably wasn't as I'm not gonna say subservient
like Adam Silver. But that's where we're at. Like this,
this league feels like they need to play into storylines
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like this in order to generate buzz, to generate Q.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
That may Rob Linka said it, he said it out
his mouth that the storyline was intriguing. You drafted this
man off of a storyline, tell you.
Speaker 4 (44:14):
But that's but like, why are we surprised? That's where
the NBA is at.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
And this is what happens when a league, which I
mean I would obviously the we're the game and how
it's being played now. I do think players are as
skilled as they've ever been, but it's getting to the
point where you feel like the three point shot something
there needs to be altered because it feels like the
game has just become kind of too spread out, too predictable,
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and how things are going to go and it's not
as great of a product to watch anymore. I'm sorry
if NBA purists and people who are fans get upset
with me for saying that. Look, I love the game
of basketball, but how the game is played now compared
to how it was fifteen years ago is dramatically different
and it doesn't feel like the same product or as.
Speaker 4 (45:02):
Entertaining.
Speaker 3 (45:03):
I'm sorry if that, If you would disagree with that,
that's just my opinion.
Speaker 4 (45:06):
But I feel like viewership decline would.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
Equate to that as well, because you still have stars,
you still have some of these rivalries, and you could
even say, well, what about you know these you know,
players all getting together. That's fine, Like if you have
a big three hundred team, I don't care because it
creates this villain almost like where everyone expects that team
to win, so if they don't, it ends up, you know,
appeasing so many other people out there.
Speaker 4 (45:29):
So it still creates that storyline.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
The problem with the NBA is they've leaned so hard
into everything outside of basketball itself and these sorts of storylines.
I mean, I guess you could say, hey, the NFL
doesn't too, but not really. Once the season stars, it's
the season. It's the season we're not having a conversation
or we're talking in the off season about how this
move could impact their season, Like we're not talking about
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some of the stuff that goes on off the field
in almost any other sport, but the NBA's That's what
to me gets a little frustrating with it is You've
got as skilled with players as we've ever seen, and
we haven't really figured out what to do with it
to make it a bigger, bigger and better product for TV.
And I guess you can sit there and say, well,
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even though viewership's down, they people still keep networks, still
keep paying more money for it, so it must be
more valued. I actually think it's the I think it's
it's like our society has lost so much creativity.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
We don't have good sitcoms anymore, Like we have lost.
Speaker 3 (46:29):
The ability to come up with new thoughts, new shows,
new anything, and so were relying on like live sports,
relying on all that now instead of actually having a
show to tune in and watch. It's like, oh no,
if you don't have live sports, live news, like it's
got to be some of their appointment television that one
of these digital streaming platforms has created because the networks
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can't figure out how actually write a good TV show anymore.
I mean some of the game shows that are on
nowadays too, It's like, what the hell is this? It's
crazy to see where things have gotten at this point
as far as the NBA. But I think it's a
byproduct of a lot of things. But mostly they're owndoing
and allowing this to happen.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Those are such valid points. I mean, I think they
can't keep up with how good the content creators are
these days. Right, they're becoming the millionaires because they're creating
content that people are aren't just really really into and
just always checking back for. And they can't keep up
with it because they're they're small, small boats. They're not
(47:29):
big ships, right, But and and continuing just kind of
looking at that conversation for me, just you know, I was,
I was. I went through the mental gymnastics of is
it fair to do a comparison of say this was
Isaiah Thomas on on that Pistons team, Say it was
Rip Hamilton on that that Pistons team that won the championship,
(47:54):
Say it was Michael Jordan. And Michael Jordan did have
a son that played ball. He did y had two
two two of them say say that was the case
and in Chicago, and and Marcus h was coming out
or something to that that that point, How would he
be received by those players? How how would that look
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if you put in and what would like, let's just
be clear on this, an inferior player to the rest
of the guys on the roster, How would they How
would they react to that? How would they handle that?
If you have to cut somebody, which they're going to
cut people, how are you going to react to that
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when that man is still on the roster? How are
you going How are you going to feel internally as
a team when you're sitting there and people's heads is
on the chopping block and Bronnie James is sitting right
there in his locker, comfortable with no entitlements, hard work
and the last name James.
Speaker 2 (48:59):
And think about this. Michael Jordan owned a team. This
could have happened. He could have made a call and
be like, hey, I own this thing, like like you're
taking one of my sons. They're going to be a
part of this never happened. That's why I would argue
Lebron's probably got more power than Michael Jordan did in
the NBA because they happened.
Speaker 5 (49:19):
I said it earlier, I said he's the go to
goats in terms of business because this is the I'm
telling you, this is like some Oceans twelve, oceans eleven. Man,
he went in there and he stole it. He stole
pick fifty five. That's what it should be a Netflix
special one day called what is it? I don't know.
Pick fifty five, that's what it should be called Pick
(49:41):
fifty five. I just I don't get it. I don't
get it.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
I feel like though the commissioners under Jordan during his
era right, which was David Stern for the end.
Speaker 4 (49:54):
Was a Russ Granick. I don't know, is that something
like who was before? It was a Larry o Larry Bryant,
Larry O'Brien, Larry O'Brien.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
I feel like between Larry O'Brien and David Stern, they
were stronger commissioners of the NBA.
Speaker 4 (50:12):
And as you know.
Speaker 3 (50:14):
Michael Jordan became such a global brand combined with Nike
that really empowered NBA basketball players to make a good
portion of money too off the court, and even though
they make a ton playing there's also and I keep
bringing up the shoe opportunity because that's real.
Speaker 4 (50:34):
You know, NBA players can make so.
Speaker 3 (50:36):
Much money on their marketing deals and globally going to
Chine on all these different international markets, and that that
can line their pockets more than anything else. It's what's
made Michael Jordan what a billionaire. It was his ability
to help elevate Nike. Without Michael Jordan, Nike's not Nike.
Like I'm sorry, I know. I mean, I've read Shoe Dogg,
(50:58):
I've heard Phil Knight's story. We could talk Steve Prefontaine
all we want, but Michael Jordan is what made Nike.
Speaker 5 (51:04):
Nike, and Marcus Jordan is making bank off of being
a Michael Jordan uh person, Yeah so sure, so maybe.
Speaker 4 (51:15):
You get my point.
Speaker 5 (51:16):
Michael.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
It's like if you look from Larry O'Brien to David
Stern and the power of the NBA back then before
the shoe deals were as big, But as you looked
at Michael Jordan getting to the end of his career
after winning six championships and all of that, then it
became like, Okay, who's the next Mike When Michael was done,
and then we kept you know, Lebron and Kobe, and
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we looked for all these other guys, but then everyone
started getting their own shoe, and that's where you kind
of realize these players have leverage because it's not just
what they negotiate with their individual teams or any team
in the league. It's also the money they have flown
in and with different sponsors.
Speaker 7 (51:52):
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