July 1, 2024 • 38 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, NBA Free Agency opens up and Paul George gets a max contract from the Sixers. Jerod Mayo changes things up, pushing practice to the hottest part of the day. And Malik Hooker takes shots at his teammate Micah Parsons for recording a podcast during the season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports. It's the end of
an era. The Paul George Kawhi Leonard pairing that was
going to ultimately result in an NBA championship for the
LA Clippers man up and vanished like a fart in
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the wind. Paul George's in Philadelphia. He gets a four year,
two hundred and twelve million dollar max contract with the
seventy six ers. James Harden's back, but Paul George is gone.
And when those two guys got together, the thinking was,
finally they're going to overtake LA. They're going to be
the team we all talk about, and it's not going
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to be the LA Lakers anymore. The Clippers are going
to run the show. And just everything that could have
gone wrong went wrong. When one guy was healthy, the
other guy was injured, vice versa. And so it's the
end for Paul George in his time with with the
LA Clippers. He's now member the Philadelphia seventy six ers
and they have the second shortest odds to win in
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the NBA title next year because of it. And then
also it appears Klay Thompson end of another era, one
that was actually successful. Klay Thompson is going to be
going elsewhere as the Golden State Warriors and him are
preparing for the breakup, and he's going to go shop
his talents around elsewhere in the league, most notably Lebron
James and the Lakers have reached out to him to
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have a conversation so.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
They could use a shooter.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, they could use a lot more, a lot more. Yeah,
they could use some more of that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Kind of a bummer.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I'll never need to complain about needing more, you know,
because you have to maximize what you have when you
have it to get more. Right, Yeah, Okay, good, Now
what were you saying, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Was going to say it is kind of kind of
a bummer to see the Warriors that has been so
dominant for so long that kind of change the way
the NBA is now with the Splash Brothers, that this
is going to be it like it's it's you know,
no longer going to be Stephan Clay and Draymond. Klay
Thompson's going to be elsewhere, and so it's kind of
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the closing of a chapter in the NBA, a highly
successful dynasty in the NBA, and now Klay Thompson's going
to go elsewhere. You kind of be anticipated. Steph was
always going to be the guy, but Klay Thompson. I
wonder had he not suffered the injuries and then you know,
the injury while he was recovering from another injury, sort
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of how his career would have panned out because he
just hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
This So it's crazy. Clay was ahead of Steph in
the beginning. You know, he was like kind of like
almost like the main guy for a moment in time,
and then they become the Splash Brothers and then you know,
the rest is pretty much history. I mean, Steph Curry
becomes just this bohemoth of a superstar in the league
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and they had one of the most historical runs in
a year you know that they put in and and
you know what it's it's it's kind of like any
dynasty that we've seen, a true dynasty that we've seen
in sports, they just they they end. You know, it
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just gets to a point of where you know, time
has passed, things aren't quite the same. You can't you
can't seem to refine or regain the magic that that
you had, and then people start going different places, and
you know, one thing leads to another and then here
we go. So Klay Thompson, I mean, becoming the sixth
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man this year, I kind of feel like the handwriting
was already on the Wall. They did a lot without
them because of injuries and and and so I think
I think the fan base and even the NBA world
got a chance to kind of fix their hearts in
their minds to say goodbye if this was indeed going
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to be it for him, and uh, you know in
Golden State, but I don't know. He's had a brilliant
career and regardless of where he goes or what he does,
I mean, he's always I think he's obviously had a
Hall of Fame career at this point, and so he's
just you know, it's just house money at this point
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as to how that looks and what he does moving forward.
But as it applies to Golden State, definitely, probably you
have to say this is the end of an era,
like it probably is done.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's not. I mean, it's the end of an era,
but I think you have to acknowledge the fact that
it is the end of one of the greatest dynasties
and in NBA history, and not just for the success.
I mean, if you go back to was it twenty fourteen,
the run they went on winning the NBA Finals then,
but they went to it for was it five straight
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years winning three of those five. I mean, it's pretty
red when you take that into account how successful they
were during that run. I know they won in twenty
twenty one as well, but when you take that into account,
but also the fact that they changed the way the
game is played during that series of five years. They
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spread out the floor and they really, you know, everyone
really tried to find someone who could replicate the combination
of Stephan Clay and the three point shooting prowess both
those players, really the team as a whole and tried
to adapt to that. I mean, the NBA changed during
that period of time, and it's it's never gone back,
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you know, not saying that. You know, rim protectors, big
men are relevant, but if they can't stretch the court
to a degree, their impact has been lessened in a
huge way. I mean, imagine a player like Shaq playing
in today's game, even being one of the greatest, one
of the most dominant players, I don't know that he
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be viewed quite the same as he was in an
era where you know, big men were fed the basketball,
the offenses were still built around having a guy like that,
a dominant force in presence in the interior. You just
don't see that quite as much. And that's what's interesting
is is when you look at the impact that Clay had,
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Steph has had, and Draymond to your point, LeVar, like
we all know this stuff comes to an end, and
whoever was going to be the first to leave and
be the guy to eventually break up the band? You know,
that's irrelevant to me. The impact that they've had has
been foundationally changing as far as the way the NBA
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now operates and how teams play. And it's like, that's
what I'll remember them for is as much as you
want to give all the credit, Steph Curry, Clay Thompson
was part of that too, and they literally changed the
way the NBA game is played now.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You wonder how bad I am at gambling.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
How bad?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
There was a Friday night game years ago and I
bet the under. It was I forget who the Warriors
were playing, but I bet the under of the first
half in the game. That was the game. Klay Thompson
scored thirty seven points in a quarter. I remember looking
at my dad going, I literally can't win a bet,
and he could. He would not miss a shot. I've
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never seen anything like it. I don't know that I've
ever seen anybody get that hot to where he was
like even like his players were like, there's the old
film of and video of Larry Bird when he got
hot against the Atlanta Hawks, and even you know, the
opposing team was like jumping around because they couldn't believe
how many shots he was hitting in a row. Klay
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Thompson could not miss thirty seven points in a quarter.
One of the most amazing performances I've ever seen, and
I was on the opposite side of that as far
as gambling goes, completely lost my ass. But it was
so impressive that I said, Okay, you know what, I'll
just wear it. So hell of a run twelve years
for Klay Thompson for NBA Champampionships. He's got all the
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lebar mentioned Hall of Fame credentials in the world, and
now he gets to go, you know, pursue some other
possibilities out there. Obviously, his dad played for the Lakers,
so maybe there's a connection there, maybe there's a tie
in there, but he will not be playing for the
Golden State Warriors any longer.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So I mean, anybody can make it onto the roster
right now in LA.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
What do you mean, what's that supposed to be as.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Long as you got a good end, you know what
I mean? So the fact that his daddy played there,
Mike Yo, daddy Yo, daddy played for the Lakers, so
you might, you know, end up there is that?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
How they do it now? Like you gotta?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Your dad plays there, like you qualify.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I don't know. Well, I just don't feel like it's
out of the question.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
There's enough information that would say Klay Thompson is one
hundred percent good enough to play for the Lakers today.
I mean I would say that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I would also say what you know, I would also
say that, you know, I mean, other teams did want
Broddy James. It wasn't just the Lakers. But you know,
the threat of going.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
On I told you that.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'm just saying, you know, told you that.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Where where'd that come from?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Why else would why else would he call?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Why else would Rich Paul threaten teams that he would
just go to Australia if he didn't?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You know, were there any responses from the people that
he actually called and threatened and said, don't don't draft
running games?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I mean, I'm assuming otherwise why would that story come out?
You know, like the threat threat was real and they
were flexing some muscles there, you know, you take him,
We're going to Australia. So everybody everybody backed off and said, okay,
you got.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
To go leave him there. Eli Manning, same thing, you know, right,
John Elway, you know the same thing. Bo Jackson like, hey, man,
don't I don't want to play. I don't want to
play for anybody else. But did stee Caleb Williams. You know,
it's a real threat. It's a real thing too, you
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know by the.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Way Brady, you threw out the you know, potential, like
how could this happen in the world of football? And
I think you're you were given an example in the
notes that would be fascinating if college football.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Like what's the what's the plan there?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Just basically where they don't put a cap on how
long you can play in college football?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Do you want me to go down this one? Yeah? Yes, right,
well no, it's someone someone had proposed the idea with
the recent house settlement case, since player is going to
receive a portion of revenue share, and this is just
an idea like hold your criticism. Okay, but let's think
outside the box, because you know, if you look at,
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for example, how I guess Rich Paul in this case
and then brought James or the James family was able
to leverage the I guess the line of don't draft
Bronnie because if you do, he's not gonna want to
play for you. There's only one team he wants to
play for. That's the Lakers. Otherwise he's gonna go to Australia.
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You know, in the NBA, you can do that because
there's other opportunities elsewhere of professional leagues. In the NFL,
they don't have anything like that. There is no competition
right like the NFL is the NFL. It's the pinnacle
of professional football in the world. Now, there are other
leagues out there. There's a European league that's starting up.
There's some former NFL coaches, NFL players who are over there,
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you know, coaching being a part of it. There's obviously
the CFL, there's obviously the UFL. There's these other leagues
that are there, but none of them come close to
comparing to the NFL. The only thing, and it's not
just you know, it's not even just second fiddle. It
is the second most consumed sport is college football outside
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of the NFL. College football is second to the NFL
in that regard as far as consumption of live events
in sports. And this particular case where my mind kind
of went to was, well, what really could ever challenge
the NFL where a draft pick could use leverage before
the draft and say I'm not gonna go there. We
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heard rumors about that with Caleb Williams and the stories
of Old Wood used to be, well, the player would
basically say to the team, and if they're a dual
sport athlete, I'll just go play the other sport. Baseball
has particularly been the case. If they're a player who's
got the ability to sit out a year, that's say,
go ahead, draft me, but I'm not coming to play
for you. I'm gonna sit out until the next year's draft.
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Then you guys can figure it out, trade me, work
out a deal. That was the only recourse you really had.
You couldn't threaten to go to another league. And this
isn't back to what the USFL, you know days where
you had another competing league. We saw guys would do that,
and so really the only competing league that could be
that the NFL probably wouldn't see coming, and they don't
really have any partnership with.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
In this sense is college football.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's college football. And so imagine if you removed the
eligibility limits, which, mind you, it's already getting to a
point where it's a little bit absurd. I mean, there
are kids more often than not playing six years. They
have the COVID year, they have the red share year,
they apply for additional waivers for medical reasons of all sorts,
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by the way. I mean, some are legitimate, some are
a little bit getting out there. I mean, you've got
a player who I believe the tight end is he's
still down to Miami's playing like his eighth year or
whatever it is. Oh, is it Kim whatever his name is,
something like that. But it's getting the point where you go, Okay,
let's just think about this and now outside the box,
thinking what is if the NCAA did away, not even
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the NCAA whatever, you know, whether it's the Power four conferences,
now you know, whether it's whatever federal government legislation comes
out that basically doesn't put a cap on eligibility limits.
What if the greatest competition in the NFL was actually
college football, and college football ended up saying the difference
between us and you is we could take these kids
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right out of high school, and we could pay them
right out of high school, and we can never let
them go to your league, and you can keep them
until they either choose to or we don't have an agreement.
They go back and forth. I just you know, this
is the time of year to have these conversations because
there's nothing else going on. But there is that thought
of if they took away eligibility limits, there would be
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players who would stay. They would continue to stay and
play for that university, and it would be incredibly interesting
to see how that would work in the long term
as far as you know, if you could have a
guy there who would just kind of be there forever
as the quarterback, like a Tom Brady or you know, however,
would work out various players position groups. But if you
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look at college football and where it's going, taking players
who were once deemed it amateur and then basically providing
them rev share, they're getting paid now with nil and
they're venturing into this professional sports world. What would stop
all of a sudden college football from competing with the
NFL outside of the NFL having a rich history, and
I'll you know this head start on college football, but
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if you really want to dig into it, college football
has been around longer than the NFL has, and the
ties to universities are much greater than what people you
know have, I would say to their NFL teams. So
it's just a thought. It would be interesting to see
if it ever grew to that case, or what comes
from this house settlement, to see if they're still going
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to keep eligibility, you know, terms in place where you'll
have those you know, five years to play four moving forward,
or if that will even change.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Cam McCormick returning for his ninth season at Miami. He
was a part of the twenty sixteen recruiting class, which
I believe also featured Justin Herbert. If I'm not mistaken,
and he's going to be playing his ninth year of
college football coming up this.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Day, let me just give you a sense of how
different my life was when Cam McCormick was coming out
of high school going to college. I didn't have any kids, Bro,
I didn't have any kids. I had been married for
about two years. I basically my last training camp I
was with a twenty fourteen, I was with the Dolphins,
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and I think I had somewhere in that point in
time started getting evaluated for having back surgery and all
that around that time. Like that's how long. Like that
is a different life for me personally, Like when you
start having kids, you start a whole new life, Like
that is whatever you knew before before you had kids
did not exist. Like it's just a new life you're
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living now. That dude's been in college for that long.
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
That is crazy. You don't realize how quickly college goes
for you until you get a lot older. It's like
it seemed like it was a long time, but it
doesn't really doesn't really hit until a little later, at
least not for me. But to be there for nine years,
nine years, you are a super ridiculously super duper uberly
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duper senior there. I don't even know what that qualification is.
You've done it two times over plus one for extra credit.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Twenty six years old, man, And it's basically been between
what Oregon and Miami. Yeah, yea, I mean I'd say
this one it's Miami. That's a kind of an upgrade there.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, talking about holding on though. Yeah, Lee, it's like
Van Wilder. I mean it's man throwing a party. Yeah,
but he should know everything for incoming freshmen, like at
twenty six, Like.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
If he's not gonna be an NFL prospect and he's
got the opportunity to still play, like man, why not?
Like I don't want to go play Europe. I don't
want to play in the CFL, like I like calling.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And when I'm done, I'm done. I'm gonna just try
to ride just till the wheels fall off, you know.
Like by the way, I wonder, does he injure himself
on purpose? Like, I mean, no shade, but dang, I did.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Just see a video of a police officer in China
throwing himself onto a car trying to get trying to
get medical leaves.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Just say, you know, just trying to get free wouldn't
be the worst It wouldn't be the worst hustle.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
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Bump Bump Bump. That's State College right there now. When
we do the game from the graduate in State College
and you go to the game and this song comes on,
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don't say, ah, this this song.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So long go to the game. Then what yeah, I
will not be a part of seeing this song at
the game.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh my gosh, Well then you will not be. I
will make sure that we go boot joon ness instead
of bump bump bumb No.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I just I don't want any part of it and play.
But it's a business trip. We're there to do a show,
all right, So I think I think everybody needs to
keep you know, keeping the price here.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Well, stay away from the stadium because I'm going to
make sure that, uh, the Nitney Lions attack you at
every chance they get because you're being disrespectful right now.
Take that.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Do you know the history why you guys play, sweet Caroline,
I have no idea there actually is none. Yeah. I
think they started playing it and it's stuck.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We're very, very big on crowd participation, you know. That's
why we throw that whole we are thing out there
and we literally we respond no matter where you are,
no matter what you got going on, we respond. So
it was only natural that a song like that would
take take shape and take hold in our stadium because
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we participate, you know. Yeah, they stopped the music you
know what I mean, Like we get to that part
of the song, they stop the music and you hear
over one hundred thousand people say, you know, sweet care
boom boom boom. Yes, it's a beautiful thing. I can't
wait to hear it. We're almost there.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And Notre Dame, we always would play it as last
call at the bars. I think that was pretty standard,
Like that's how you knew it was that that was
it last call.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
M I have yet to go to a Notre Dame game, man,
and I know that it's It's quite the Penn.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
State, dude, I just saw they brought back Michigan State.
I'm like, thank you, queen bringing back. They did the
big ten games, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Penn State. Bring
them all back.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I love it. As Plexico, what are you going to do? Like,
how's that going to work for you? He said he's
going to have his Spartan Birdish jersey on the back
and Elijah Burr's Notre Dame on the front when they play.
So it's okay, makes sense, I guess, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, split jersey. My sister did that split jersey.
I'll tell plaques him and my sister have something in common.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
There you go. I'm sure you'll see them there. I
have to connect you guys, you know, so I.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Don't I mean, I won't be able to make it
many games.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
But well you know, but but his you know, you
have a brotherre In. Now you have a new brother
in uh In Elijah. So there you go. You know.
I mean that's got to be cool to have the
connect to be able to say, you know what, hey,
I got an opportunity to get some advice talk shop
with one of the greatest quarterbacks that played for the university.
I mean, you know, that's just that's just part of it,
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you know, and it could ultimately lead to you know,
maybe getting drafted in the NFL, you know, after your
freshman year, if you were eligible to go and you know,
getting a certain draft pick.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
The fifty fifth pick or something like maybe the.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Fifty fifth pick. You know, I get it. I mean,
it's just good to know people. That's all you know.
People you'd be.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Are now is the Ohio State Let me ask you
a question. Is the Ohio State Penn State game?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Like that's a that's a rivalry game? Correct?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
For sure? I mean, I mean, for a period of
time it was it was more competitive than Ohio State Michigan. Yeah,
I'm not saying it's a bigger rivalry game.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
But no, it's not a bigger route game.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It was more competitive Penn State and the versus Ohio
State was a lot closer, and then that's changed obviously recently.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I'm just trying to figure out, like maybe that, like
if the rivalry is so strong that maybe that bled
over into the NFL, Like for just for example, hypothetically,
what if like you know, Michael Parsons Penn State and
Malie Cooker Ohio State their teammates, like potentially.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Maybe exactly what you did right there.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I'm just trying to like, I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That was pretty good?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
What what the.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
What is Bully Cooker even thinking about I do that?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I got a couple of clips on to play for
you again. Let's listen, all right, So this is the
first one.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He was talking with Keishawn Johnson on Keyshawn Johnson's podcast
and he was asked about Micah Parsons podcast and WALIEK.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Cooker had this to say.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
The problem with him, I thing would be though for
mikeh my advice would be for Micah would be you know,
just make sure we all you know where we're and
being where your feet are because we're working. You know,
the run games terrible, but you're doing a podcast every
week and you know the run game is terrible. Then
you know, what are you really caring about? Are you
caring about the crowd that you know is watching your podcast?
Are you caring about the success of our team and
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the Super Bowl that we're.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Trying to reach?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Now?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uh, you know, he went on to say, I mean, look,
I ultimately don't have much of a problem with it,
but that twenty second clip is the one that went
viral and the one that Michaeh Parsons were responded to
on Twitter, saying, quote, just wish you had said this
to me but instead on some podcast and you got
my number and you're my locker mate, so you could
(26:10):
have said this any day. And you do realize I
shoot the podcast on our off day. Why aren't we
talking about everybody else's preparations and focus? Now that was
since deleted and so you figure, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well, very accurate, yeah, like but very accurate in context.
And then nature right.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Now, there was also this one that he was asked
about all these guys that need contracts in Dallas. He was,
you know, like listen to you know who would you
pay first. You've got Dak Prescott needs a contract extension,
C D Lamb, Zach Martin, like all of the you
know play MICHAEH. Parsons, And he said he would pay
(26:48):
Michael Parsons. This is Malie Cooker said he would pay
Michael Parsons fourth and went on to explain why that is.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Oh, I'm gonna just go and say this is not
Micould yet.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I feel like we still got a lot to prove
from Micah still has a lot to prove, Like he's
done a great job his first couple years.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
In the league.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Don't get me wrong, he's a fantastic player. But I
feel like Micah still has a surface that he don't
even know that he can scratch as far as what
he's doing. So I would say Micah, I would say
Mike is last.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So that just I mean, y'all call me a hater,
but that sounds like hate, Like that's hating. That's you
can hear it up there.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He didn't do a good job of defining like what
he was trying to say how he's trying to say it,
you know, and obviously I don't want to take too
much out of a small SoundBite, but it was like
he's not even scratching the surface yet of it. Like
if he plays another year and hits that, like he
can make even more. Like there's there's probably more of
that that needed to be said or maybe was said
(27:50):
that we're not hearing. But this is Look, this is
why and I always go back to the Patriot way.
This is why you always saw how Bill Belichick was
so got everyone in the organization to be so tight
lift around the media, like how does this help your team?
How does this help the chemistry in the locker room?
(28:10):
How does this help you win a Super Bowl? It doesn't.
It doesn't the when guys go on podcast and they
create all of this, which, by the way, did you
guys know how the name podcast was invented? No, tell us, Well,
it was really from Steve Jobs. He's the one who
coined the phrase podcasting because it was an iPod but
you could broadcast to anyone in the world, and so
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he deemed the term podcast iod podcasting.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
So anyway, they don't iPods anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, exactly, which which obviously it evolved to the iPhone,
et cetera, but that was the initial point. You'd be
listening to a broadcast from anyone on the iPod. But
the the the funny thing about this is like now
everyone has the opportunity to do it, it doesn't mean
you should. You know, it doesn't mean you should. And
I think the hard thing for players now is when
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you stret you wear a personality on TV as a
player in interviews. Jamal Williams, for example, is one of
the funniest dudes in the league, Like absolutely hilarious. If
you ever just want to go watch a bunch of
his clips, that guy is awesome. But then, like things
(29:21):
can get twisted or taken out of context. So even
though it might help you because post career people are
gonna be like, hey, he's a great personality, let's bring
him to do broadcasting, there's other elements of while you're playing,
it might be hurting some of what your current job
is and so you kind of face this double edged
sort of if you don't show your personality and what
you're capable of. A LA maybe even Jason Kelcey, Travis
(29:42):
kelce and how those guys have been with their podcast.
It becomes difficult then for people to be able to
see what you're capable of once you're done playing. And
so it's tough because a lot of players want to
be in broadcasting after their career, have a podcast, whatever.
But while you're playing, there's more risk than reward at
(30:03):
least how I look at it, like, I don't know
how any team looks back on a season. They can't
say Chiefs for example. I don't know how they look
back and go, you know what, man, that podcast we
did that really was a difference that really helped us
win a super Bowl this past year, you know, really
brought our team together.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
There's a lot to that. I know we're up against it.
So I just say this super quickly. I don't feel
like in twenty twenty four, whatever your personal interests are,
I don't feel like if at long as long as
it doesn't interfere or intervene with what your duties are
as a player on the team. Why Trip, Why I
(30:42):
have a problem with it. Buddy saying what he had
to say about Micah, It clearly wasn't based upon to me, feasible, logical, sensible,
you know, conclusions and information that led to conclusions like,
if a guy wants to do a podcast, do a podcast.
If a guy wants to be an archaeologist on his
(31:05):
time off, be an archaeologist. If he wants to, you know,
make sure his body is taken care of the right way,
you know, within reason, didn't do that. You know, I
just I feel like, you know, somebody wants to take classes,
whatever it is, as long as it doesn't interrupt or
(31:25):
disturb or distract from what's going on, you know in
the locker room. That's not been the case in years past.
And historically you're supposed to just be a football player,
but why not be more diverse in what it is
that you're doing and developing in your life. You know,
it could make you a better ball player in the
(31:45):
end in some cases. You know, I just think that
we have to evolve from being so closed minded as
players or even people that are making decisions in these
these organizations as to how you're supposed to approach being
a football player. You know, be a professional really is
what it comes down to. Make sure you're a professional
(32:06):
with what you do and everything else will fall in line.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And if there's still some beef when they get to Oxnar.
They could always just do the man dance right right
out there on the field.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Those things happen.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
What's the man dance?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
They're going, They're going, They're going fisticuffs.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Okay, there you got for I mean, like your definition
of man dance versus like LaVar or mine could be different.
What do you mean just you might have another, uh
definition for it.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Man, you might be in Vegas. You know who knows?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You might be doing the elephant walk.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
For all right. It might not be the Bunny Ranch.
It might be the Jack Rabbit.
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Speaker 1 (33:53):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. What you to know?
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Speaker 4 (33:58):
You please?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Four? If they're out, all right, lead the lab. What
do we got?
Speaker 8 (34:02):
We've got options, guys plenty to watch or do today.
We've got United States versus NIGUAI on f S one.
When the Copa America you guys ent are out, they.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Gotta be in, right because if they don't win this,
they're basically not able to get out of the group stage.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, gotta watch, gotta support, gotta support the boys.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
They're not gonna win, so I mean, I'll watch him in,
but yeah, they won't win.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Okay, if he was the player who was suspended for
this match.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Said Lexi Lawless. I believe, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
It's a Tony meol come on man leave?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Tim?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Tim waya wea who cares?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
He basically kind of like hit a guy that backed
the head. They gave him a red card that kicked
it out for this match too.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Well, if you don't like the Copa America, you also
got the UEFA euro We got a France versus Belgium
and Portrait Goal versus Slovenia all in Fox Today.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And yeah I love Foxes coverage.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Okay, I'm man.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
If you're looking for something else, there's also a thirty
for thirty called No Scope The Story of Phase Clan.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's all about esports.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I'm out, man out. Yeah, it's an interesting culture.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Why is everyone named Phase? You ever know? That isn't
like Phase like a gamer name.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Yeah, it's h yeah, it's it's it's like a team.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I guess they call it a klan. I don't know.
I don't play video games.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Uh, what happened? My mic went out? Sorry guys? My four?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:47):
They changed up the home run derby Now there will
be either three minutes or a maximum of forty pitches
in the first round, changing things up.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
What they're trying to do efficiency trying.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
To entice Sho Tani to partic fate because they were
worried about his recovery from his Tommy John so they
didn't know if the home run derby was a good
idea for him, and so I think they're trying to
entice him to to go ahead and get involved. Really,
by the way he hits bombs, he.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Does it makes it look easy to so effortless.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
He's so good whatever they give him step worth every penny.
What else we got, Lee?
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Wimbledon starts today out.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh, I tune in almost lie bet Jesus would weigh
on that.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I mean, treat him with a little bit of respect,
say that you guys are rude guys, and then he
get a herd right there. That right there, unnecessary, uncalled for, inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
What else we got, Lee Fellows?
Speaker 8 (36:56):
We had talked about it being Bobby Benia Day, but
also July one mark International Reggae Day, which is a
celebrated in Kingston, Jamaica every year.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
American Zoo Days.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
On July first, it was the first public zoo in
Philadelphia was open on this.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Day, American Zoo Day, right after Reggae. I don't understand
what you're going on.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Your thoughts on that and its chicken wing Day.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm done, good good. I can't believe you did that. Lead.
I didn't do it for mayor of Buffalo Ye.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Nineteen seventy seven. Damn
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Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports. It's the end of
an era. The Paul George Kawhi Leonard pairing that was
going to ultimately result in an NBA championship for the
LA Clippers man up and vanished like a fart in
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the wind. Paul George's in Philadelphia. He gets a four year,
two hundred and twelve million dollar max contract with the
seventy six ers. James Harden's back, but Paul George is gone.
And when those two guys got together, the thinking was,
finally they're going to overtake LA. They're going to be
the team we all talk about, and it's not going
(01:39):
to be the LA Lakers anymore. The Clippers are going
to run the show. And just everything that could have
gone wrong went wrong. When one guy was healthy, the
other guy was injured, vice versa. And so it's the
end for Paul George in his time with with the
LA Clippers. He's now member the Philadelphia seventy six ers
and they have the second shortest odds to win in
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the NBA title next year because of it. And then
also it appears Klay Thompson end of another era, one
that was actually successful. Klay Thompson is going to be
going elsewhere as the Golden State Warriors and him are
preparing for the breakup, and he's going to go shop
his talents around elsewhere in the league, most notably Lebron
James and the Lakers have reached out to him to
(02:22):
have a conversation so.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
They could use a shooter.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Yeah, they could use a lot more, a lot more. Yeah,
they could use some more of that.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Kind of a bummer.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
I'll never need to complain about needing more, you know,
because you have to maximize what you have when you
have it to get more. Right, Yeah, Okay, good, Now
what were you saying, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Was going to say it is kind of kind of
a bummer to see the Warriors that has been so
dominant for so long that kind of change the way
the NBA is now with the Splash Brothers, that this
is going to be it like it's it's you know,
no longer going to be Stephan Clay and Draymond. Klay
Thompson's going to be elsewhere, and so it's kind of
(03:06):
the closing of a chapter in the NBA, a highly
successful dynasty in the NBA, and now Klay Thompson's going
to go elsewhere. You kind of be anticipated. Steph was
always going to be the guy, but Klay Thompson. I
wonder had he not suffered the injuries and then you know,
the injury while he was recovering from another injury, sort
(03:26):
of how his career would have panned out because he
just hasn't been.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
This So it's crazy. Clay was ahead of Steph in
the beginning. You know, he was like kind of like
almost like the main guy for a moment in time,
and then they become the Splash Brothers and then you know,
the rest is pretty much history. I mean, Steph Curry
becomes just this bohemoth of a superstar in the league
(03:52):
and they had one of the most historical runs in
a year you know that they put in and and
you know what it's it's it's kind of like any
dynasty that we've seen, a true dynasty that we've seen
in sports, they just they they end. You know, it
(04:13):
just gets to a point of where you know, time
has passed, things aren't quite the same. You can't you
can't seem to refine or regain the magic that that
you had, and then people start going different places, and
you know, one thing leads to another and then here
we go. So Klay Thompson, I mean, becoming the sixth
(04:36):
man this year, I kind of feel like the handwriting
was already on the Wall. They did a lot without
them because of injuries and and and so I think
I think the fan base and even the NBA world
got a chance to kind of fix their hearts in
their minds to say goodbye if this was indeed going
(04:57):
to be it for him, and uh, you know in
Golden State, but I don't know. He's had a brilliant
career and regardless of where he goes or what he does,
I mean, he's always I think he's obviously had a
Hall of Fame career at this point, and so he's
just you know, it's just house money at this point
(05:17):
as to how that looks and what he does moving forward.
But as it applies to Golden State, definitely, probably you
have to say this is the end of an era,
like it probably is done.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
It's not. I mean, it's the end of an era,
but I think you have to acknowledge the fact that
it is the end of one of the greatest dynasties
and in NBA history, and not just for the success.
I mean, if you go back to was it twenty fourteen,
the run they went on winning the NBA Finals then,
but they went to it for was it five straight
(05:53):
years winning three of those five. I mean, it's pretty
red when you take that into account how successful they
were during that run. I know they won in twenty
twenty one as well, but when you take that into account,
but also the fact that they changed the way the
game is played during that series of five years. They
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spread out the floor and they really, you know, everyone
really tried to find someone who could replicate the combination
of Stephan Clay and the three point shooting prowess both
those players, really the team as a whole and tried
to adapt to that. I mean, the NBA changed during
that period of time, and it's it's never gone back,
(06:37):
you know, not saying that. You know, rim protectors, big
men are relevant, but if they can't stretch the court
to a degree, their impact has been lessened in a
huge way. I mean, imagine a player like Shaq playing
in today's game, even being one of the greatest, one
of the most dominant players, I don't know that he
(06:58):
be viewed quite the same as he was in an
era where you know, big men were fed the basketball,
the offenses were still built around having a guy like that,
a dominant force in presence in the interior. You just
don't see that quite as much. And that's what's interesting
is is when you look at the impact that Clay had,
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Steph has had, and Draymond to your point, LeVar, like
we all know this stuff comes to an end, and
whoever was going to be the first to leave and
be the guy to eventually break up the band? You know,
that's irrelevant to me. The impact that they've had has
been foundationally changing as far as the way the NBA
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now operates and how teams play. And it's like, that's
what I'll remember them for is as much as you
want to give all the credit, Steph Curry, Clay Thompson
was part of that too, and they literally changed the
way the NBA game is played now.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
You wonder how bad I am at gambling.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
How bad?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
There was a Friday night game years ago and I
bet the under. It was I forget who the Warriors
were playing, but I bet the under of the first
half in the game. That was the game. Klay Thompson
scored thirty seven points in a quarter. I remember looking
at my dad going, I literally can't win a bet,
and he could. He would not miss a shot. I've
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never seen anything like it. I don't know that I've
ever seen anybody get that hot to where he was
like even like his players were like, there's the old
film of and video of Larry Bird when he got
hot against the Atlanta Hawks, and even you know, the
opposing team was like jumping around because they couldn't believe
how many shots he was hitting in a row. Klay
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Thompson could not miss thirty seven points in a quarter.
One of the most amazing performances I've ever seen, and
I was on the opposite side of that as far
as gambling goes, completely lost my ass. But it was
so impressive that I said, Okay, you know what, I'll
just wear it. So hell of a run twelve years
for Klay Thompson for NBA Champampionships. He's got all the
(09:02):
lebar mentioned Hall of Fame credentials in the world, and
now he gets to go, you know, pursue some other
possibilities out there. Obviously, his dad played for the Lakers,
so maybe there's a connection there, maybe there's a tie
in there, but he will not be playing for the
Golden State Warriors any longer.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
So I mean, anybody can make it onto the roster
right now in LA.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
What do you mean, what's that supposed to be as.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Long as you got a good end, you know what
I mean? So the fact that his daddy played there,
Mike Yo, daddy Yo, daddy played for the Lakers, so
you might, you know, end up there is that?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
How they do it now? Like you gotta?
Speaker 4 (09:37):
I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Your dad plays there, like you qualify.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I don't know. Well, I just don't feel like it's
out of the question.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I feel like.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
There's enough information that would say Klay Thompson is one
hundred percent good enough to play for the Lakers today.
I mean I would say that.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
I would also say what you know, I would also
say that, you know, I mean, other teams did want
Broddy James. It wasn't just the Lakers. But you know,
the threat of going.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
On I told you that.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
I'm just saying, you know, told you that.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Where where'd that come from?
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Why else would why else would he call?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Why else would Rich Paul threaten teams that he would
just go to Australia if he didn't?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You know, were there any responses from the people that
he actually called and threatened and said, don't don't draft
running games?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I mean, I'm assuming otherwise why would that story come out?
You know, like the threat threat was real and they
were flexing some muscles there, you know, you take him,
We're going to Australia. So everybody everybody backed off and said, okay,
you got.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
To go leave him there. Eli Manning, same thing, you know, right,
John Elway, you know the same thing. Bo Jackson like, hey, man,
don't I don't want to play. I don't want to
play for anybody else. But did stee Caleb Williams. You know,
it's a real threat. It's a real thing too, you
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know by the.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
Way Brady, you threw out the you know, potential, like
how could this happen in the world of football? And
I think you're you were given an example in the
notes that would be fascinating if college football.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Like what's the what's the plan there?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Just basically where they don't put a cap on how
long you can play in college football?
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Do you want me to go down this one? Yeah? Yes, right,
well no, it's someone someone had proposed the idea with
the recent house settlement case, since player is going to
receive a portion of revenue share, and this is just
an idea like hold your criticism. Okay, but let's think
outside the box, because you know, if you look at,
(11:53):
for example, how I guess Rich Paul in this case
and then brought James or the James family was able
to leverage the I guess the line of don't draft
Bronnie because if you do, he's not gonna want to
play for you. There's only one team he wants to
play for. That's the Lakers. Otherwise he's gonna go to Australia.
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You know, in the NBA, you can do that because
there's other opportunities elsewhere of professional leagues. In the NFL,
they don't have anything like that. There is no competition
right like the NFL is the NFL. It's the pinnacle
of professional football in the world. Now, there are other
leagues out there. There's a European league that's starting up.
There's some former NFL coaches, NFL players who are over there,
(12:36):
you know, coaching being a part of it. There's obviously
the CFL, there's obviously the UFL. There's these other leagues
that are there, but none of them come close to
comparing to the NFL. The only thing, and it's not
just you know, it's not even just second fiddle. It
is the second most consumed sport is college football outside
(12:59):
of the NFL. College football is second to the NFL
in that regard as far as consumption of live events
in sports. And this particular case where my mind kind
of went to was, well, what really could ever challenge
the NFL where a draft pick could use leverage before
the draft and say I'm not gonna go there. We
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heard rumors about that with Caleb Williams and the stories
of Old Wood used to be, well, the player would
basically say to the team, and if they're a dual
sport athlete, I'll just go play the other sport. Baseball
has particularly been the case. If they're a player who's
got the ability to sit out a year, that's say,
go ahead, draft me, but I'm not coming to play
for you. I'm gonna sit out until the next year's draft.
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Then you guys can figure it out, trade me, work
out a deal. That was the only recourse you really had.
You couldn't threaten to go to another league. And this
isn't back to what the USFL, you know days where
you had another competing league. We saw guys would do that,
and so really the only competing league that could be
that the NFL probably wouldn't see coming, and they don't
really have any partnership with.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
In this sense is college football.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It's college football. And so imagine if you removed the
eligibility limits, which, mind you, it's already getting to a
point where it's a little bit absurd. I mean, there
are kids more often than not playing six years. They
have the COVID year, they have the red share year,
they apply for additional waivers for medical reasons of all sorts,
(14:27):
by the way. I mean, some are legitimate, some are
a little bit getting out there. I mean, you've got
a player who I believe the tight end is he's
still down to Miami's playing like his eighth year or
whatever it is. Oh, is it Kim whatever his name is,
something like that. But it's getting the point where you go, Okay,
let's just think about this and now outside the box,
thinking what is if the NCAA did away, not even
(14:49):
the NCAA whatever, you know, whether it's the Power four conferences,
now you know, whether it's whatever federal government legislation comes
out that basically doesn't put a cap on eligibility limits.
What if the greatest competition in the NFL was actually
college football, and college football ended up saying the difference
between us and you is we could take these kids
(15:11):
right out of high school, and we could pay them
right out of high school, and we can never let
them go to your league, and you can keep them
until they either choose to or we don't have an agreement.
They go back and forth. I just you know, this
is the time of year to have these conversations because
there's nothing else going on. But there is that thought
of if they took away eligibility limits, there would be
(15:32):
players who would stay. They would continue to stay and
play for that university, and it would be incredibly interesting
to see how that would work in the long term
as far as you know, if you could have a
guy there who would just kind of be there forever
as the quarterback, like a Tom Brady or you know, however,
would work out various players position groups. But if you
(15:54):
look at college football and where it's going, taking players
who were once deemed it amateur and then basically providing
them rev share, they're getting paid now with nil and
they're venturing into this professional sports world. What would stop
all of a sudden college football from competing with the
NFL outside of the NFL having a rich history, and
I'll you know this head start on college football, but
(16:16):
if you really want to dig into it, college football
has been around longer than the NFL has, and the
ties to universities are much greater than what people you
know have, I would say to their NFL teams. So
it's just a thought. It would be interesting to see
if it ever grew to that case, or what comes
from this house settlement, to see if they're still going
(16:38):
to keep eligibility, you know, terms in place where you'll
have those you know, five years to play four moving forward,
or if that will even change.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Cam McCormick returning for his ninth season at Miami. He
was a part of the twenty sixteen recruiting class, which
I believe also featured Justin Herbert. If I'm not mistaken,
and he's going to be playing his ninth year of
college football coming up this.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Day, let me just give you a sense of how
different my life was when Cam McCormick was coming out
of high school going to college. I didn't have any kids, Bro,
I didn't have any kids. I had been married for
about two years. I basically my last training camp I
was with a twenty fourteen, I was with the Dolphins,
(17:25):
and I think I had somewhere in that point in
time started getting evaluated for having back surgery and all
that around that time. Like that's how long. Like that
is a different life for me personally, Like when you
start having kids, you start a whole new life, Like
that is whatever you knew before before you had kids
did not exist. Like it's just a new life you're
(17:46):
living now. That dude's been in college for that long.
That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
That is crazy. You don't realize how quickly college goes
for you until you get a lot older. It's like
it seemed like it was a long time, but it
doesn't really doesn't really hit until a little later, at
least not for me. But to be there for nine years,
nine years, you are a super ridiculously super duper uberly
(18:15):
duper senior there. I don't even know what that qualification is.
You've done it two times over plus one for extra credit.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Twenty six years old, man, And it's basically been between
what Oregon and Miami. Yeah, yea, I mean I'd say
this one it's Miami. That's a kind of an upgrade there.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Yeah, talking about holding on though. Yeah, Lee, it's like
Van Wilder. I mean it's man throwing a party. Yeah,
but he should know everything for incoming freshmen, like at
twenty six, Like.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
If he's not gonna be an NFL prospect and he's
got the opportunity to still play, like man, why not?
Like I don't want to go play Europe. I don't
want to play in the CFL, like I like calling.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
And when I'm done, I'm done. I'm gonna just try
to ride just till the wheels fall off, you know.
Like by the way, I wonder, does he injure himself
on purpose? Like, I mean, no shade, but dang, I did.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Just see a video of a police officer in China
throwing himself onto a car trying to get trying to
get medical leaves.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Just say, you know, just trying to get free wouldn't
be the worst It wouldn't be the worst hustle.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Oh man, Well, there's two pros and a cup of
joe here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox and do you coming up next year?
Speaker 1 (19:36):
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Speaker 3 (19:36):
From the Tirack dot Com Studios, A little bit of
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Speaker 5 (19:44):
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Bump Bump Bump. That's State College right there now. When
we do the game from the graduate in State College
and you go to the game and this song comes on,
(20:53):
don't say, ah, this this song.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
So long go to the game. Then what yeah, I
will not be a part of seeing this song at
the game.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Oh my gosh, Well then you will not be. I
will make sure that we go boot joon ness instead
of bump bump bumb No.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
I just I don't want any part of it and play.
But it's a business trip. We're there to do a show,
all right, So I think I think everybody needs to
keep you know, keeping the price here.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Well, stay away from the stadium because I'm going to
make sure that, uh, the Nitney Lions attack you at
every chance they get because you're being disrespectful right now.
Take that.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Do you know the history why you guys play, sweet Caroline,
I have no idea there actually is none. Yeah. I
think they started playing it and it's stuck.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We're very, very big on crowd participation, you know. That's
why we throw that whole we are thing out there
and we literally we respond no matter where you are,
no matter what you got going on, we respond. So
it was only natural that a song like that would
take take shape and take hold in our stadium because
(22:05):
we participate, you know. Yeah, they stopped the music you
know what I mean, Like we get to that part
of the song, they stop the music and you hear
over one hundred thousand people say, you know, sweet care
boom boom boom. Yes, it's a beautiful thing. I can't
wait to hear it. We're almost there.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
And Notre Dame, we always would play it as last
call at the bars. I think that was pretty standard,
Like that's how you knew it was that that was
it last call.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
M I have yet to go to a Notre Dame game, man,
and I know that it's It's quite the Penn.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
State, dude, I just saw they brought back Michigan State.
I'm like, thank you, queen bringing back. They did the
big ten games, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, Penn State. Bring
them all back.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
I love it. As Plexico, what are you going to do? Like,
how's that going to work for you? He said he's
going to have his Spartan Birdish jersey on the back
and Elijah Burr's Notre Dame on the front when they play.
So it's okay, makes sense, I guess, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
Yeah, yeah, split jersey. My sister did that split jersey.
I'll tell plaques him and my sister have something in common.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
There you go. I'm sure you'll see them there. I
have to connect you guys, you know, so I.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Don't I mean, I won't be able to make it
many games.
Speaker 4 (23:26):
But well you know, but but his you know, you
have a brotherre In. Now you have a new brother
in uh In Elijah. So there you go. You know.
I mean that's got to be cool to have the
connect to be able to say, you know what, hey,
I got an opportunity to get some advice talk shop
with one of the greatest quarterbacks that played for the university.
I mean, you know, that's just that's just part of it,
(23:49):
you know, and it could ultimately lead to you know,
maybe getting drafted in the NFL, you know, after your
freshman year, if you were eligible to go and you know,
getting a certain draft pick.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
The fifty fifth pick or something like maybe the.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Fifty fifth pick. You know, I get it. I mean,
it's just good to know people. That's all you know.
People you'd be.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Are now is the Ohio State Let me ask you
a question. Is the Ohio State Penn State game?
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Like that's a that's a rivalry game? Correct?
Speaker 1 (24:22):
For sure? I mean, I mean, for a period of
time it was it was more competitive than Ohio State Michigan. Yeah,
I'm not saying it's a bigger rivalry game.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
But no, it's not a bigger route game.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
It was more competitive Penn State and the versus Ohio
State was a lot closer, and then that's changed obviously recently.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
I'm just trying to figure out, like maybe that, like
if the rivalry is so strong that maybe that bled
over into the NFL, Like for just for example, hypothetically,
what if like you know, Michael Parsons Penn State and
Malie Cooker Ohio State their teammates, like potentially.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
Maybe exactly what you did right there.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
I'm just trying to like, I'm just trying to figure out.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
That was pretty good?
Speaker 5 (25:05):
What what the.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
What is Bully Cooker even thinking about I do that?
Speaker 5 (25:10):
I got a couple of clips on to play for
you again. Let's listen, all right, So this is the
first one.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He was talking with Keishawn Johnson on Keyshawn Johnson's podcast
and he was asked about Micah Parsons podcast and WALIEK.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Cooker had this to say.
Speaker 7 (25:25):
The problem with him, I thing would be though for
mikeh my advice would be for Micah would be you know,
just make sure we all you know where we're and
being where your feet are because we're working. You know,
the run games terrible, but you're doing a podcast every
week and you know the run game is terrible. Then
you know, what are you really caring about? Are you
caring about the crowd that you know is watching your podcast?
Are you caring about the success of our team and
(25:46):
the Super Bowl that we're.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Trying to reach?
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Now?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Uh, you know, he went on to say, I mean, look,
I ultimately don't have much of a problem with it,
but that twenty second clip is the one that went
viral and the one that Michaeh Parsons were responded to
on Twitter, saying, quote, just wish you had said this
to me but instead on some podcast and you got
my number and you're my locker mate, so you could
(26:10):
have said this any day. And you do realize I
shoot the podcast on our off day. Why aren't we
talking about everybody else's preparations and focus? Now that was
since deleted and so you figure, okay.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
Well, very accurate, yeah, like but very accurate in context.
And then nature right.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
Now, there was also this one that he was asked
about all these guys that need contracts in Dallas. He was,
you know, like listen to you know who would you
pay first. You've got Dak Prescott needs a contract extension,
C D Lamb, Zach Martin, like all of the you
know play MICHAEH. Parsons, And he said he would pay
(26:48):
Michael Parsons. This is Malie Cooker said he would pay
Michael Parsons fourth and went on to explain why that is.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
Oh, I'm gonna just go and say this is not
Micould yet.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I feel like we still got a lot to prove
from Micah still has a lot to prove, Like he's
done a great job his first couple years.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
In the league.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
Don't get me wrong, he's a fantastic player. But I
feel like Micah still has a surface that he don't
even know that he can scratch as far as what
he's doing. So I would say Micah, I would say
Mike is last.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
So that just I mean, y'all call me a hater,
but that sounds like hate, Like that's hating. That's you
can hear it up there.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He didn't do a good job of defining like what
he was trying to say how he's trying to say it,
you know, and obviously I don't want to take too
much out of a small SoundBite, but it was like
he's not even scratching the surface yet of it. Like
if he plays another year and hits that, like he
can make even more. Like there's there's probably more of
that that needed to be said or maybe was said
(27:50):
that we're not hearing. But this is Look, this is
why and I always go back to the Patriot way.
This is why you always saw how Bill Belichick was
so got everyone in the organization to be so tight
lift around the media, like how does this help your team?
How does this help the chemistry in the locker room?
(28:10):
How does this help you win a Super Bowl? It doesn't.
It doesn't the when guys go on podcast and they
create all of this, which, by the way, did you
guys know how the name podcast was invented? No, tell us, Well,
it was really from Steve Jobs. He's the one who
coined the phrase podcasting because it was an iPod but
you could broadcast to anyone in the world, and so
(28:33):
he deemed the term podcast iod podcasting.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
So anyway, they don't iPods anymore.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, exactly, which which obviously it evolved to the iPhone,
et cetera, but that was the initial point. You'd be
listening to a broadcast from anyone on the iPod. But
the the the funny thing about this is like now
everyone has the opportunity to do it, it doesn't mean
you should. You know, it doesn't mean you should. And
I think the hard thing for players now is when
(28:59):
you stret you wear a personality on TV as a
player in interviews. Jamal Williams, for example, is one of
the funniest dudes in the league, Like absolutely hilarious. If
you ever just want to go watch a bunch of
his clips, that guy is awesome. But then, like things
(29:21):
can get twisted or taken out of context. So even
though it might help you because post career people are
gonna be like, hey, he's a great personality, let's bring
him to do broadcasting, there's other elements of while you're playing,
it might be hurting some of what your current job
is and so you kind of face this double edged
sort of if you don't show your personality and what
you're capable of. A LA maybe even Jason Kelcey, Travis
(29:42):
kelce and how those guys have been with their podcast.
It becomes difficult then for people to be able to
see what you're capable of once you're done playing. And
so it's tough because a lot of players want to
be in broadcasting after their career, have a podcast, whatever.
But while you're playing, there's more risk than reward at
(30:03):
least how I look at it, like, I don't know
how any team looks back on a season. They can't
say Chiefs for example. I don't know how they look
back and go, you know what, man, that podcast we
did that really was a difference that really helped us
win a super Bowl this past year, you know, really
brought our team together.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
There's a lot to that. I know we're up against it.
So I just say this super quickly. I don't feel
like in twenty twenty four, whatever your personal interests are,
I don't feel like if at long as long as
it doesn't interfere or intervene with what your duties are
as a player on the team. Why Trip, Why I
(30:42):
have a problem with it. Buddy saying what he had
to say about Micah, It clearly wasn't based upon to me, feasible, logical, sensible,
you know, conclusions and information that led to conclusions like,
if a guy wants to do a podcast, do a podcast.
If a guy wants to be an archaeologist on his
(31:05):
time off, be an archaeologist. If he wants to, you know,
make sure his body is taken care of the right way,
you know, within reason, didn't do that. You know, I
just I feel like, you know, somebody wants to take classes,
whatever it is, as long as it doesn't interrupt or
(31:25):
disturb or distract from what's going on, you know in
the locker room. That's not been the case in years past.
And historically you're supposed to just be a football player,
but why not be more diverse in what it is
that you're doing and developing in your life. You know,
it could make you a better ball player in the
(31:45):
end in some cases. You know, I just think that
we have to evolve from being so closed minded as
players or even people that are making decisions in these
these organizations as to how you're supposed to approach being
a football player. You know, be a professional really is
what it comes down to. Make sure you're a professional
(32:06):
with what you do and everything else will fall in line.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
And if there's still some beef when they get to Oxnar.
They could always just do the man dance right right
out there on the field.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Those things happen.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
What's the man dance?
Speaker 4 (32:18):
They're going, They're going, They're going fisticuffs.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Okay, there you got for I mean, like your definition
of man dance versus like LaVar or mine could be different.
What do you mean just you might have another, uh
definition for it.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Man, you might be in Vegas. You know who knows?
Speaker 1 (32:38):
You might be doing the elephant walk.
Speaker 4 (32:41):
For all right. It might not be the Bunny Ranch.
It might be the Jack Rabbit.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
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Speaker 5 (32:56):
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This is really news.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Two pros and a cup of Joe. What you to know?
If they're ay?
Speaker 4 (33:58):
You please?
Speaker 5 (33:58):
Four? If they're out, all right, lead the lab. What
do we got?
Speaker 8 (34:02):
We've got options, guys plenty to watch or do today.
We've got United States versus NIGUAI on f S one.
When the Copa America you guys ent are out, they.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Gotta be in, right because if they don't win this,
they're basically not able to get out of the group stage.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Correct.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, gotta watch, gotta support, gotta support the boys.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
They're not gonna win, so I mean, I'll watch him in,
but yeah, they won't win.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Okay, if he was the player who was suspended for
this match.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
Said Lexi Lawless. I believe, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (34:40):
It's a Tony meol come on man leave?
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (34:43):
Tim?
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (34:44):
Tim waya wea who cares?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
He basically kind of like hit a guy that backed
the head. They gave him a red card that kicked
it out for this match too.
Speaker 8 (34:55):
Well, if you don't like the Copa America, you also
got the UEFA euro We got a France versus Belgium
and Portrait Goal versus Slovenia all in Fox Today.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
And yeah I love Foxes coverage.
Speaker 4 (35:07):
Okay, I'm man.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
If you're looking for something else, there's also a thirty
for thirty called No Scope The Story of Phase Clan.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
It's all about esports.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
I'm out, man out. Yeah, it's an interesting culture.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Why is everyone named Phase? You ever know? That isn't
like Phase like a gamer name.
Speaker 8 (35:28):
Yeah, it's h yeah, it's it's it's like a team.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I guess they call it a klan. I don't know.
I don't play video games.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Guys.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
Uh, what happened? My mic went out? Sorry guys? My four?
Speaker 6 (35:46):
Uh?
Speaker 8 (35:47):
They changed up the home run derby Now there will
be either three minutes or a maximum of forty pitches
in the first round, changing things up.
Speaker 5 (35:55):
What they're trying to do efficiency trying.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
To entice Sho Tani to partic fate because they were
worried about his recovery from his Tommy John so they
didn't know if the home run derby was a good
idea for him, and so I think they're trying to
entice him to to go ahead and get involved. Really,
by the way he hits bombs, he.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Does it makes it look easy to so effortless.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
He's so good whatever they give him step worth every penny.
What else we got, Lee?
Speaker 5 (36:28):
Wimbledon starts today out.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
Oh, I tune in almost lie bet Jesus would weigh
on that.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I mean, treat him with a little bit of respect,
say that you guys are rude guys, and then he
get a herd right there. That right there, unnecessary, uncalled for, inappropriate.
Speaker 5 (36:55):
What else we got, Lee Fellows?
Speaker 8 (36:56):
We had talked about it being Bobby Benia Day, but
also July one mark International Reggae Day, which is a
celebrated in Kingston, Jamaica every year.
Speaker 1 (37:04):
American Zoo Days.
Speaker 8 (37:05):
On July first, it was the first public zoo in
Philadelphia was open on this.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
Day, American Zoo Day, right after Reggae. I don't understand
what you're going on.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Your thoughts on that and its chicken wing Day.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
I'm done, good good. I can't believe you did that. Lead.
I didn't do it for mayor of Buffalo Ye.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
Nineteen seventy seven. Damn
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