July 1, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, NBA Free Agency opens up and Paul George gets a max contract from the Sixers. Jerod Mayo changes things up, pushing practice to the hottest part of the day. It’s the end of an era in Golden State as Klay Thompson decides to leave the Warriors. All that and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Lamar Rings, Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Monday morning?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Good? Great?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, I wonder as good as Paul George or no,
I mean, why not four years, two hundred and twelve
million dollars with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. That was
the big breaking news that took place overnight. And we
are often running with NBA free agency?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Are we often running?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well? Yeah, come on, man, playoff p getting a getting
a big deal like that, that's huge news.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It is big news. It is big news.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
And who well, you know, Paul George had h I
guess what we would consider to be a hell of
a run, you know with the the LA like the Clippers,
you know, hearing hearing about and that's that that qualifies
for almost a max that's a max contract, right, I believe?
(01:06):
So yeah, I just I don't know. I think it
just kind of explains or or kind of further justifies
the whole idea of if you're able to transcend and
become a megastar in this league, that there's still going
to be a market for you in in certain places,
they clearly in in in Philadelphia think that they're close
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enough to that next next level of competition, possibly coming
out of the East. I know a lot of people
felt as though seeing seeing the Celtics finally win the East,
they they thought it was because you know, the other
teams weren't healthy more so than it was the dominance
of the Boston Celtics. No matter what side you fall
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on it, when when looking at the scenario, adding a
guy like Paul George to to this seventy six ers,
you would assume that they feel like that is maybe
one of those missing pieces of having another score as
well as saying a big member of the team and
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and so, and that might make Joel and Bed feel
better about you know, being there. That that may that
may be a a I don't know. It could it
could be a boost for them in a way where
they go in a positive direction, but I.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Would be a little leery of it.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
So here's their starting lineup now, Terrese, Maxey, Kelly Aubridge, Junior,
Tobias Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Joel Embiid and Paul George.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
That would be their their starting lineup, which is starting Yeah,
it is I mean that that will compete, that will
have a shot for the East.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I think the other thing that that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Just from having a football perspective and looking at how
how different it is in basketball.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I mean, I don't know that you'd say Paul George
is over the hill by any means.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I think in the NBA we've seen now, especially with
guys like Lebron, granted he's one of the greatest of
all time, but also other players able to play into
their mid maybe even sometimes well let's just say mid thirties,
and still be able to have production. And Paul George
will be, I believe what thirty four this upcoming season.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He's already played.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Fourteen seasons in the NBA, and he's able to make
this sort of contract, which goes to show you the
difference between the two sports, just the sense of, you know,
how they're still valued at that point in time in
their career, and not saying that, you know, Paul George
isn't one of the better in the NBA, but usually
you're not getting that amount of money unless it's a quarterback,
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and he's one of the top, if not the top,
at that stage or portion of his career, so always
kind of crazy to see that. I think the sixth
man for the Knicks, if I'm not mistaken, signed.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
A huge deal this year as well.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I wasn't.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I don't follow the Knicks as much, and I was like, wow,
I mean, like, these guys get absolutely paid because you
only need two or three, really, you know, superstars on
a roster to make a huge difference. And so often
this is a huge difference maker for the seventy six ers.
But just even in the sense of the money man,
every time NBA free agency comes around him, like my goodness,
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it's just night and day compared to what you see
a lot of NFL players.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Sign up Tobias.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Tobias should have been a bigger contributor to the team
this year, you know, especially in the playoffs. I think
they need it more from him, and and Maxie is
is I mean, he's really really climbing that, you know,
that ladder to be considered a superstar player. And I
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think you added Paul George. It could be the leadership
factor because I think that Tobias as well as as
Maxie and others you know, like Covington though, if still there,
I mean, if these guys are if the roster is
still there, and those younger guys could use that type
of guidance in veteran veteran appearance or veteran Uh you
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know what is what what am I going for here?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The veteran? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, yeah, just just having that that element in the lock.
There you go, presence is what I'm looking for. There
we go. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
I think that make a big difference for this type
of team because it almost seems like this year they
were just one one guy away from being that that team.
I just I mean, does he have enough in the tank.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So he obviously had a great year last year. He
was trying, I mean, he wanted to go back to
LA but they were only willing to offer him three
years and Philly was able to offer him four years.
And then when he was on the desk with Joe
l Embiid doing the finals coverage for ESPN, that's probably
(06:01):
when the two started talking and having discussions about what
do you think maybe we get this done. So I
want to ask you guys, by the way, second shortest
odds in the NBA to win the finals are the
Philadelphia seventy six ers. Now they were twelve to one yesterday.
They're now an eight to one to win the finals
and win the title next year. If you guys had
to guess after this contract Paul George's career earnings in.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
The NBA or what if you guys had to guess, Oh,
it's probably around what eight?
Speaker 6 (06:31):
How many seasons that I say you played fourteen after
this contract? So had on to what twitter and twelve
to whatever it is?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna say seventy to fifty eight hundred grand,
I mean make eight bet, I bet you know what
I'm not to say, seven hundred and fifty eight grand.
I've a billion.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That was your guess. That was your guest. You got
to stand by that.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, I meant million dollars, But go ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Here's the crazy thing is I think you're dead on
like I would bet it's gotta be over five hundred
million minimum, now that I'm thinking about it, fifteen seasons
will be at eighteen at that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Point five hundred and seventeen million dollars.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It's two hundred dollars million.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But think about it, trillionaires on thousand trillion.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Think about it, though, that that was a legitimate guess.
Seven to eight hundred million dollars made.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
What he's been thea a half billion Indiana? Okay, see
the Clipper. There might be one in between there, the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, see right, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Said, okay, see two years there. I thought he might
have went somewhere else before there. Okay, so Indiana, okay,
see La Clippers and now the same the seventy six ers.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, it's four teams and he's been he's been a
highest paid guy on all of those teams.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We witch, bitch, one hundred and seventeen million dollars guarantee too. Damn.
Why couldn't you guys be taller? Did you figure that out?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
All right?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You guys?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Would you rather be seven foot and being making that
type of money or a normal height and having a
regular job?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh seven foot, I could pay for a surgery to
shrink down to six to two. Come on, please, well, okay,
take out two femurs. You're good, all right? I mean
that you could. I mean that's a lot of money.
I'm sorry that I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
It's just kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
There's options there.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Wow, I just think the uh, there's got to be
a better comp than the seven foot making half a
billion or regular dude six foot two?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like, yeah, how's that?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Could you find a better you could get?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You could get drafted in the draft had fifty five.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm saying, like, doesn't sound like it's a.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Have to be so tall anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I thought you were gonna say, like, we're good.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Would be like a tech entrepreneur who makes like four
hundred sols company. I mean, what's like, what is the
glary seven foot or doesn't have half a billion and
lacks ten inches on?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
The guy have to do what they like, by the way,
once in the NBA, make.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
It half a billions, just a regular I was not
gonna stand.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
LeVar, why of all draft selections and numbers you would
bring up why fifty five?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And well I just looked at and listened to the
measurables you guys gave, and that was a little you
gave a little bit much.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I mean you friendly with it.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm just saying, damn, I could be a regular dude
and make it in.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Why you rounding up? Are you calling Browny James regular dude?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh, I didn't catch that.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That's who you're using.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I didn't use anybody's what.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Anybody?
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I am? Bro why to pick fifty five? Catch a stray.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
Blood?
Speaker 6 (10:11):
I was, I was, I was a little foggy and
then all right, now I hear where you're going.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Say? It depends on your daddy.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Your daddy is Levar's got brawny James like he's Peter
dinklice Man.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
He had better stats.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh can't we get through the through the weekend? I
can't heat well? Listen, it is congratulations to Paul Geordan.
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Speaker 2 (11:39):
So everyone's kind of waiting to see what the hell
it's going to look like in New England without Bill
Belichick there walking the sidelines, and we already have some
information coming in that it's going to look a little
bit different. So, according to Mike Reese, who covers the
New England Patriots for ESPN, Drod Mail, the new coach
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there is going to change things up for training camp.
One example is how girod Mayo is putting his own
stamp on the Patriots. Is what time they plan to
practice in training camp? Eleven am Eastern Time. Under Belichick
in his final stretch of the seasons, the team practice
at nine thirty am. So he's bumping it back ninety
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minutes to go ahead and get everybody ready for the season,
which probably means ninety minutes later, which means ninety minutes
later also makes it hotter, and so that's how he's
going to get ready for the new England Patriots upcoming year,
a ninety minute delay on the start of training camp practice.
That's girod Mayo's first move as head coach of the
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New England Patriots there.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So does anyone really have a problem with us?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, I'm not doing it so right care.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
I don't either, And I think when you look at
what time they play, I think with all but three
of their games or at.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
One pm Eastern yet I hope so.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I mean, basically, he hit the hot time. That's rude,
the hottest time of the day. So it's it's New England,
which this time of year it can get hot. It's
still human, it's little bombing, but it's not like it's
South Florida or you know, Houston, Texas or somewhere else
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So I'm not sure why this is such a big deal.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I do think it is interesting though, that he's trying
to set a tone, because the initial tone once the
transition had happened was we're more team friendly. You know,
Elliott Wolf was making some comments, and you know, you
feel like maybe it's not as you know so much
about doing your job in business, even though it's part
of it. It's a little more open, little more loose,
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and this is an element where Okay, he wants to
still set the tone that he's not gonna be a
pushover just just because I may be perceived to be
a player's coach and I can talk to you and
we can kind of rap like that, Like that doesn't
mean I'm just gonna go ahead and let everything be easy.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
So I don't really have much of an issue with it.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I think it probably makes sense too, just from training
these guys' bodies and their time clock to be ready
to compete, you know, close to that time of day
when they're actually gonna be playing games too.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
M hmm. I wonder.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I wonder if it's more or if some of it
has to do with rest as well. You know, I
don't know what they're doing before before the practice out of eleven,
if they're their meeting, or what what the breakfast scenario
looks like. But I wonder if it is he giving
them a later wake up time, you know, because that
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that's definitely player friendly, even if you're going to have
to trade it in for practicing in morning time weather
versus you know, eleven right before just before noon weather.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
But I'd be curious as to what their what their schedule.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Is, you know, and and moving moving that ninety minute gap,
you know, is that more siesta because guys, you know,
I know that, you know, training camps aren't what they
used to be. And going out early was only the
first practice. It was always a second practice, and sometimes
there was a third practice at night.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Sometimes you do special situations or you do you know,
special teams, whatever it may be. But there were times
where you had three practices in one day. And so
I don't know in this new age of how things
are done and how practices are scheduled, and how much
rest time versus on time, how much super hard practices
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versus more more timing and different things and corrections, don't
I don't know what they're getting done in these one
practices anymore. So it would be I would be curious
to know how much how much meeting time is there
versus on field practice time.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
With Giraimeo's schedule.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Three days don't happen anymore, nothing of the.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Fact, it's not that I've heard of. I don't think
two a days happen anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Really, that's what I've heard heard. Your only practice like
one time a day Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
A one to day with a walk through as a
second practice.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, why do you say it like that? Are you disappointed?
Is a different than when you guys are playing a.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Little I'm not disappointed in anything. I'm just saying it's different.
I don't know what the effects are, the impact of it,
what it represents. So I'm speaking blindly right now in
terms of knowing exactly what types of effect it has
on the body. You know, with the type of schedule
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they have, can you create more time for sleep or
more study time? You're going to have to do something
to replace what it is that you don't get out
of the physicality of practices. I just I'm curious as
to what that is at this point.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I've always wondered as well too, why don't if you
play your games at a certain time, why would you
not practice at that certain time to get your body
used to that that window of time that you're going
to be having to perform at. Like I've always thought sense,
like just from a standpoint of if we've got games
at one pm Eastern time, let's have practices at one
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pm Eastern time. And I don't know if that's you
know what the schedule's like, and whether or not that's
doable during the week or how that, how that goes.
But I've always like, if you've got a night game
coming up, why wouldn't you practice during the week at night?
I mean, to me, just from a from a body
clock standpoint, it seems like it would make the most sense.
And it doesn't seem like a lot of people do that.
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It's a little strange.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, well, I mean, listen, if if they were making
you head coach of the Patriots, how would you handle
a bar? What would you?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
I mean, I like a lot of what you're saying,
you know, in terms of practicing at the times that
that you're going to play, But ultimately, you have to
if you're the head coach of a team, you have
to look at the total, the totality of what the
scheduling looks like and what what has to get done.
And I don't know, I don't I don't know what
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the rules are concerning practice times or you know, air quality.
You know, it could be a lot of factors that
play apart. You know, when I was a head coach,
we had to schedule practices based off of the heat indecks,
and if the heat in decks at at you know
a certain time is too high, you're not allowed out
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there on the field. And and so that goes for
air quality as well, if the air quality is bad.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like, there are a lot of things that.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Will keep you off a field these days, and it's
out of your hands, you know, it's in it's in
the trainer's hands to tell you exactly what those elements
are that would keep you off the field.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
So I don't know exactly what would be.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Playing a part and why you know you wouldn't practice
at that time other than like elements such.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
The Patriots are going to be terrible this year like that.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I don't know. You just never know, man. I mean
I think Houston changed that for everybody, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, I mean listen, they think their win totals four
four and a half something like that. So there is.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Rooined for these young defensive amount of head coaches.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I mean, I'm against them.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just wonder how long is the.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I thought you're gonna be more the defensive side, Like
you want this trend of defensive head coaches getting hired,
you know, like McDonald, like you got to you got
a few like young defensive minds that got hired.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
People like, oh, you don't sleep on these defensive minds.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
That's right, it's mostly you know, bring Belichick backbull back,
you know.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Let's just get real discriminatory here. Let's let's just go
all defense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Sh There's always gonna be that divide, isn't.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
There, Yes, there's always yeah, natural, it's natural. Never, I'll
never go back on it.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
How long is the leash for Drod Mayo? Because if there,
if you know, they're subpar this year and it doesn't
look hot next year, I just wonder at what point,
I mean, everyone couldn't wait to get rid of Belichick.
He had to go his time, and you know it
had run its course, et cetera, et cetera. Yet he's
going to be the most coveted free agent coach on
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the market next year. And I just wonder how long
this goes on for before people go you know, maybe
it wasn't Belichick that was so much the problem. You know,
maybe Bobby Orchids has got some fan prints on this
whole thing, and maybe he's the guy, which is what
one of the reports was that Belichick looks at this
situation and says, if I go somewhere else and I
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have success, then he felt like Robert Craft undermining his
opportunity in Atlanta was because Robert Craft would have nobody
else to point to. Brady left, Belichick left, and now
they're not good. You can't point fingers at Belichick anymore.
Maybe maybe Robert Krafts got to be the one to
wear it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, but they're already bad.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I mean, well you're going to say, okay, they're more bad,
so that that now it isn't on Belichick.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
If they could be worse, Yeah, they could be worse.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
See, I mean not much.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Look that the head coach was Robert Craft's pick, so
I think he's got a lot of wiggle room. You know,
if things don't go well initially, he's got a rookie
starting quarterback most likely if it if it's if it's
not Drake Man, it's gonna be Chacoby Brissett. So that'll
give him a little more time as well.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Let me see, I wonder who the betting favorite is
to be the starter to open up the year.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
It was Brissett.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Earlier when we were going through this activity.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think it was give me one, let me I'll
offer that, let me put that together. I'll work on
that during the break and we'll get some answers.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
There.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
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Speaker 2 (22:07):
So a lot of our friends who are joining us
this morning listening on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports.
It's the end of an era. The Paul George Kawhi
Leonard pairing that was going to ultimately result in an
NBA championship for the LA Clippers man up and vanished
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like a fart in the wind. Geez, Paul George's in Philadelphia.
He gets a four year, two hundred and twelve million
dollar max contract with the seventy six ers. James Harden's back,
but Paul George is gone. And when those two guys
got together, the thinking was, finally they're going to overtake LA.
They're going to be the team we all talk about,
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and it's not going to be the LA Lakers anymore.
The Clippers are going to run the show and just
everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. When one
guy was healthy, the other guy was injured, vice versa.
And so it's the end for Paul George in his
time with the LA with the LA Clippers, he's now
member of the Philadelphia seventy six ers and they have
the second shortest odds to win the NBA title next
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year because of it. And then also it appears Klay
Thompson end of another era, one that was actually successful.
Klay Thompson is going to be going elsewhere as the
Golden State Warriors and him are preparing for the breakup,
and he's going to go shop his talents around elsewhere
in the league, most notably Lebron James and the Lakers
have reached out to him to have a conversation so
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they could use a shooter. Yeah, they could use a
lot more, a lot more. Yeah, they use some more
of that. Kind of a bummer.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
I I'll never need to complain about needing more, you know,
because you have to maximize what you have when you
have it to get more.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Right. Yeah, Okay, go ahead, Now what were you saying?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, I was gonna say it is kind of kind
of a bummer to see the Warriors that has been
so dominant for so long. They kind of changed the
way the NBA is now with the Splash Brothers that
this is going to be it like it's it's you know,
no longer going to be Stephan Clay and Draymond. Klay
Thompson's going to be elsewhere, and so it's kind of
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the closing of a chapter in the NBA, a highly
successful dynasty in the NBA, and now Klay Thompson's going
to go elsewhere. You kind of be anticipated. Steph was
always going to be the guy, but Klay Thompson. I
wonder had he not suffered the injuries and then you know,
the injury while he was recovering from another injury, sort
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of how his career would have panned out because he
just hasn't.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Been this cy Clay was ahead of Steph in the beginning.
You know, he was like kind of like almost like
the main guy for a moment in time, and then
they become the Splash Brothers and then you know, the
rest is is pretty much history. I mean, Steph Curry
but comes just this bohemoth of a superstar in the
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league and they had one of the most historical runs
in a year, you know that they put in and
and you know what it's. It's it's kind of like
any dynasty that we've seen, a true dynasty that we've
seen in sports, they just they they end. You know,
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it just gets to a point of where you know,
time has passed, things aren't quite the same. You can't
you can't seem to refine or regain the magic that
that you had. And then people start going different places,
and you know, one thing leads to another and then
here we go. So Klay Thompson, I mean, becoming the
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sixth man this year, I kind of feel like the
handwriting was already on the wall. They did a lot
without them because of injuries and and and so I
think I think the fan base and even the NBA
world got a chance to kind of fix their hearts
in their minds to say goodbye if this was indeed
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going to be it for him, and you know, in
Golden State, but I don't know. He's had a brilliant
career and regardless of where he goes or what he does,
I mean, he's always I think he's obviously had a
Hall of Fame career at this point, and so he's
just you know, it's just house money at this point
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as to how that looks and what he does moving forward,
But as it applies to Golden State, to definitely probably
you have to say this is the end of an era,
like it probably is done, it's not.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I mean, it's the end of an era, but I
think you have to acknowledge the fact that it is
the end of one of the greatest dynasties in an NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
History, and not just for the success.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
I mean, if you go back to was it twenty fourteen,
the run they went on winning the NBA Finals then,
but they went to it for was it five straight years,
winning three of those five. I mean, it's pretty ridiculous
when you take that into account how successful they were
during that run. I know they won in twenty twenty
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one as well, but when you take that into account,
but also the fact that they changed the way the
game is played during that series of five years. They
spread out the floor and they really, you know, everyone
really tried to find someone who could replicate the combination
of Stephan Clay and the three point shooting prowess.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Both those players really the team as a whole, and
tried to adapt to that.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I mean, the NBA changed during that period of time
and it's never gone back. You know, not saying that.
You know, rimt protectors, big men are relevant, but if
they can't stretch the court to a degree, their impact
has been lessened in a huge way. I mean, imagine
a player like Shaq playing in today's game, even being
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one of the greatest, one of the most dominant players,
I don't know that he be viewed quite the same
as he was in an era where you know, big
men were fed the basketball, the offenses were still built
around having a guy like that, a dominant force in
presence in the interior. You just don't see that quite
as much. And that's what's interesting, is is when you
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look at the impact that Clay had, Steph has had,
and Draymond to your point, LeVar, like we all know
this stuff comes to an end, and whoever was going
to be the first to leave and be the guy
to eventually break up.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
The band, you know, that's irrelevant to me.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
The impact that they've had has been foundationally changing as
far as the way the NBA now operates and how
teams play, And it's like, that's what I'll remember them
for is as much as you want to give all
the credit Steph Curry. Klay Thompson was part of that too,
and they literally changed the way the NBA game is
played now.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You won't know how bad I am at gambling. How
bet there was a Friday night game years ago and
I bet the under. It was I forget who the
Warriors were playing, but I bet the under of the
first half in the game. That was the game. Klay
Thompson scored thirty seven points in a quarter. I remember
looking at my dad going, I literally can't win a bet,
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and he could. He would not miss a shot. I've
never seen anything like it. I don't know that I've
ever seen anybody get that hot in to where he
was like even like his players were like there's the
old film of and video of Larry Bird when he
got hot against the Atlanta Hawks, and even you know,
the opposing team was like jumping around because they couldn't
believe how many shots he was hitting in a row.
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Klay Thompson could not miss thirty seven points in a quarter.
One of the most amazing performances I've ever seen. And
I would on the opposite side of that. As far
as gambling goes, completely lost my ass. But it was
so impressive that I said, Okay, you know what, I'll
just wear it. So, uh, hell of a run. Twelve
years for Klay Thompson, four NBA championships. He's got all
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the lebar mentioned Hall of Fame credentials in the world,
and now he gets to go, you know, pursue some
other possibilities out there. Obviously, his dad played for the Lakers,
so maybe there's a connection there, Maybe there's a tie
in there, but he will not be playing for the
Golden State Warriors any longer.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
So I mean, anybody can make it onto the roster
right now in that lake.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
What's that supposed to be?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
As long as you got a good d you know
what I mean. So the fact that his daddy played there,
Mike Yo, daddy, Yo, daddy played for the Lakers, you
might you know, end up there?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
How they do it now? Like you gotta I mean,
I don't know your dad plays there, like you qualify.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I don't know. Well, I just don't feel like it's
out of the question.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I feel like there's enough information that would say Klay
Thompson is one hundred good enough to play for the
Lakers today.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I mean I would say that.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I would also say what you know, I would also
say that, you know, I mean other teams did want
Broddy James. It wasn't just the Lakers. But you know
the threat of going on.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Who told you that?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm just saying, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Told you that. Where Where'd that come from? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Why else would why else would he call?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah? Why else would Rich Paul threaten teams that he
would just go to Australia if he didn't?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know, were there any responses from the people that
he actually called and threatened and said, don't don't draft
Bruni Games?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean, I'm assuming otherwise why would that story come out?
You know, like the threat threat was real and they
were flexing some muscles there, you know, you take him,
We're going to Australia. So everybody everybody backed off and said, okay,
you got to go.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Just leave him there.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Eli Manning, same thing, you know, John Elway, you know
the same thing. Bo Jackson like, hey man, I don't
I don't want to play for I don't want to
play for anybody else.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
But did Steve Caleb Williams, you know, it's a real threat.
It's a real thing too, you know, by the.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Way, Brady, you threw out the you know, potential, like,
how could this happen in the world of football? And
I think you're you were given an example in the
notes that would be fascinating if college football, like what's
the what's the plan there? Just basically where they don't
put a cap on how long you can play in
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college football?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Do you want me to go down this one?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Yes, alright, well no, it's someone someone had proposed the
idea with the recent house settlement case, since player is
going to receive a portion.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Of revenue share, and this is just an idea, like.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Hold your criticism, okay, but let's think outside the box,
because you know, if you look at, for example, how
I guess Rich Paul in this case and Bronnie James
or the James family was able to leverage the.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I guess the lineup.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Don't draft Bronnie because if you do, he's not gonna
want to play for you. There's only one team he
wants to play for. That's the Lakers. Otherwise he's gonna
go to Australia. You know, in the NBA, you can
do that because there's other opportunities elsewhere of professional leagues.
In the NFL, they don't have anything like that. There
is no competition, right like the NFL is the NFL.
It's the pinnacle of professional football in the world. Now,
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there are other leagues out there. There's a European league
that's starting up. There's some former NFL coaches, NFL players
who are over there, you know, coaching being a part
of it.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
There's obviously the CFL, there's obviously the UFL.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
There, there's these other leagues that are there, but none
of them come close to comparing to the NFL. The
only thing, and it's not just you know, that's not
even just second fiddle. It is the second most consumed
sport is college football outside of the NFL. College football
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is second to the NFL in that regard as far
as consumption of live.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Events in sports.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
And this particular case where my mind kind of went
to was, well, what really could ever challenge the NFL
where a draft pick could use leverage before the draft
and say I'm not gonna go there. We heard rumors
about that with Caleb Williams, and the stories of old
used to be, well, the player would basically say to
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the team, and if they're a dual sport athlete, I'll
just go play the other sport. Baseball is particularly been
the case. If they're a player who's got the ability
to sit out a year, that's say, go ahead, draft me,
but I'm not coming to play for you. I'm gonna
sit out until the next year's draft. Then you guys
can figure it out. Trade me, you know, work out
a deal. That was the only reco worse you really had.
You couldn't threaten to go to another league. And this
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isn't back to what the USFL, you know, days where
you had another competing league. We saw guys would do that.
And so really the only competing league that could be
that the NFL probably wouldn't see coming, and they don't
really have any partnership with.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
In this sense is college football.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's college football.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
And so imagine if you removed the eligibility limits, which,
mind you, it's already getting to a point where it's
a little bit absurd. I mean, there are kids more
often than not playing six years. They have the COVID year,
they have the red share year, they apply for additional
waivers for medical reasons. Of all sorts by the way.
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I mean, some are legitimate, some are a little bit
getting out there. I mean, you've got a player who
I believe the tight end is he still down to
Miami's playing like his eighth.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Year or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Oh, is it Cam whatever his name is, something like that.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
But it's getting the point where you go, Okay, let's
just think about this and now outside the box thinking
what I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
If the NCAA did away, not even the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Whatever, you know, whether it's the Power four conferences, now,
you know, whether it's whatever federal government legislation comes out
that basically doesn't put a cap on eligibility limits. What
if the greatest competition in the NFL was actually college football,
and college football ended up saying the difference between us
and you is we could take these kids right out
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of high school, and we could pay them right out
of high school, and we can never let them go
to your league, and you can keep them.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Until they either choose to or we don't have an agreement.
They go back and forth.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
I just you know, this is the time of year
to have these conversations because there's nothing else going on.
But there is that thought of if they took away
eligibility limits, there would be players who would stay. They
would continue to stay and play for that university, and
it would be incredibly interesting to see how that would
work in the long term as far as you know,
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if you could have a guy there who would just
kind of be there forever as the quarterback Tom Brady
or you know, however would work out with various players
position groups.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But if you look at college football.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
And where it's going, taking players who are once deemed
to amateur and then basically providing them rev share, they're
getting paid now with nil and they're venturing into this
professional sports world. What would stop all of a sudden
college football from competing with the NFL Outside of the
NFL having a rich history and all, you know this
head start on college football, But if you really want
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to dig into it, college football has been around longer
than the NFL has, and the ties to universities are
much greater than what people you know have I would
say to their NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
So it's just a thought.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
It would be interesting to see if it ever grew
to that case, or what comes from this house settlement,
to see if they're still going to keep eligibility, you know,
terms in place where you'll have those you know, five
years to play four moving forward, or if that will
even change.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Cormick returning for his ninth season at Miami. He was
a part of the twenty sixteen recruiting class, which I
believe also featured Justin Herbert if I'm not mistaken, and
he's going to be playing his ninth year of college
football coming up.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
This day, let me just give you a sense of
how different my life was when Cam McCormick was coming
out of high school going to college.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I didn't have any.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Kids, Bro, I didn't have any kids. I had been
married for about two years. I basically my last training
camp I was with a twenty fourteen, I was with
the Dolphins, and I think I had somewhere in that
point in time started getting evaluated for having back surgery
and all that around that time.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
That's how long, Like that is a different.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Life for me personally, Like when you start having kids,
you start a whole new life, Like that is, whatever
you knew before before you had kids did not exist.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Like it's just a new life you're living now that
that dude's been in college for that long. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That is crazy.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
You don't realize how quickly college goes for you until
you get a little older. It's like it seemed like
there was a long time, but it doesn't really doesn't
really hit until a little later, at least not for me.
But to be there for nine years, nine years, you
are a super ridiculously, super duper uberly duper senior there.
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I don't even know what that qualification is. You've done
it two times over plus one for extra credit.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Twenty six years old, man, And it's it's.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Basically been between what Oregon and Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, I mean, i'd say this one.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
It's Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
That's a kind of an upgrade there. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Talking about holding on though, God Lee, it's like Van Wilder,
I mean it's man, can you imagine throwing a party?
But if you should know everything for incoming freshmen, like
at twenty six, like.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
If he's not gonna be an NFL prospect and he's
got the opportunity to still play, like man, why not?
Like I don't want to go play Europe, I don't
want to play in the CFL like I like.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
And when I'm done, I'm done. So I'm gonna just
try to ride just till the wheels fall off, you know,
Like I wonder, does he injure himself on purpose? Like
I mean, no shade, but dang I did.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Just see a video of a police officer and trying
to throwing himself onto a car, trying to get trying
to get medical leave.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
To say, you know, just just trying to get free
wouldn't be the worst. It wouldn't be the worst hustle. Yeah,
It's the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with Lamar Rings, Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Good?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Monday morning?
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Good? Great?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, I wonder as good as Paul George or no,
I mean, why not four years, two hundred and twelve
million dollars with the Philadelphia seventy six ers. That was
the big breaking news that took place overnight. And we
are often running with NBA free agency?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Are we often running?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Well? Yeah, come on, man, playoff p getting a getting
a big deal like that, that's huge news.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
It is big news. It is big news.
Speaker 5 (00:44):
And who well, you know, Paul George had h I
guess what we would consider to be a hell of
a run, you know with the the LA like the Clippers,
you know, hearing hearing about and that's that that qualifies
for almost a max that's a max contract, right, I believe?
(01:06):
So yeah, I just I don't know. I think it
just kind of explains or or kind of further justifies
the whole idea of if you're able to transcend and
become a megastar in this league, that there's still going
to be a market for you in in certain places,
they clearly in in in Philadelphia think that they're close
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enough to that next next level of competition, possibly coming
out of the East. I know a lot of people
felt as though seeing seeing the Celtics finally win the East,
they they thought it was because you know, the other
teams weren't healthy more so than it was the dominance
of the Boston Celtics. No matter what side you fall
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on it, when when looking at the scenario, adding a
guy like Paul George to to this seventy six ers,
you would assume that they feel like that is maybe
one of those missing pieces of having another score as
well as saying a big member of the team and
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and so, and that might make Joel and Bed feel
better about you know, being there. That that may that
may be a a I don't know. It could it
could be a boost for them in a way where
they go in a positive direction, but I.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
Would be a little leery of it.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
So here's their starting lineup now, Terrese, Maxey, Kelly Aubridge, Junior,
Tobias Harris.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Joel Embiid and Paul George.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
That would be their their starting lineup, which is starting Yeah,
it is I mean that that will compete, that will
have a shot for the East.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
I think the other thing that that's interesting.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Just from having a football perspective and looking at how
how different it is in basketball.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I mean, I don't know that you'd say Paul George
is over the hill by any means.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I think in the NBA we've seen now, especially with
guys like Lebron, granted he's one of the greatest of
all time, but also other players able to play into
their mid maybe even sometimes well let's just say mid thirties,
and still be able to have production. And Paul George
will be, I believe what thirty four this upcoming season.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
He's already played.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Fourteen seasons in the NBA, and he's able to make
this sort of contract, which goes to show you the
difference between the two sports, just the sense of, you know,
how they're still valued at that point in time in
their career, and not saying that, you know, Paul George
isn't one of the better in the NBA, but usually
you're not getting that amount of money unless it's a quarterback,
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and he's one of the top, if not the top,
at that stage or portion of his career, so always
kind of crazy to see that. I think the sixth
man for the Knicks, if I'm not mistaken, signed.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
A huge deal this year as well.
Speaker 4 (03:57):
I wasn't.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
I don't follow the Knicks as much, and I was like, wow,
I mean, like, these guys get absolutely paid because you
only need two or three, really, you know, superstars on
a roster to make a huge difference. And so often
this is a huge difference maker for the seventy six ers.
But just even in the sense of the money man,
every time NBA free agency comes around him, like my goodness,
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it's just night and day compared to what you see
a lot of NFL players.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Sign up Tobias.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Tobias should have been a bigger contributor to the team
this year, you know, especially in the playoffs. I think
they need it more from him, and and Maxie is
is I mean, he's really really climbing that, you know,
that ladder to be considered a superstar player. And I
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think you added Paul George. It could be the leadership
factor because I think that Tobias as well as as
Maxie and others you know, like Covington though, if still there,
I mean, if these guys are if the roster is
still there, and those younger guys could use that type
of guidance in veteran veteran appearance or veteran Uh you
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know what is what what am I going for here?
Speaker 4 (05:16):
The veteran? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (05:18):
Yeah, yeah, just just having that that element in the lock.
There you go, presence is what I'm looking for. There
we go. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
I think that make a big difference for this type
of team because it almost seems like this year they
were just one one guy away from being that that team.
I just I mean, does he have enough in the tank.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So he obviously had a great year last year. He
was trying, I mean, he wanted to go back to
LA but they were only willing to offer him three
years and Philly was able to offer him four years.
And then when he was on the desk with Joe
l Embiid doing the finals coverage for ESPN, that's probably
(06:01):
when the two started talking and having discussions about what
do you think maybe we get this done. So I
want to ask you guys, by the way, second shortest
odds in the NBA to win the finals are the
Philadelphia seventy six ers. Now they were twelve to one yesterday.
They're now an eight to one to win the finals
and win the title next year. If you guys had
to guess after this contract Paul George's career earnings in.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
The NBA or what if you guys had to guess, Oh,
it's probably around what eight?
Speaker 6 (06:31):
How many seasons that I say you played fourteen after
this contract? So had on to what twitter and twelve
to whatever it is?
Speaker 5 (06:39):
Yeah, I'm gonna say seventy to fifty eight hundred grand,
I mean make eight bet, I bet you know what
I'm not to say, seven hundred and fifty eight grand.
I've a billion.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
That was your guess. That was your guest. You got
to stand by that.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, I meant million dollars, But go ahead.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
Here's the crazy thing is I think you're dead on
like I would bet it's gotta be over five hundred
million minimum, now that I'm thinking about it, fifteen seasons
will be at eighteen at that.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Point five hundred and seventeen million dollars.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
It's two hundred dollars million.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
But think about it, trillionaires on thousand trillion.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Think about it, though, that that was a legitimate guess.
Seven to eight hundred million dollars made.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
What he's been thea a half billion Indiana? Okay, see
the Clipper. There might be one in between there, the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, see right, yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Said, okay, see two years there. I thought he might
have went somewhere else before there. Okay, so Indiana, okay,
see La Clippers and now the same the seventy six ers.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, it's four teams and he's been he's been a
highest paid guy on all of those teams.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
We witch, bitch, one hundred and seventeen million dollars guarantee too. Damn.
Why couldn't you guys be taller? Did you figure that out?
Speaker 4 (08:16):
All right?
Speaker 2 (08:17):
You guys?
Speaker 5 (08:17):
Would you rather be seven foot and being making that
type of money or a normal height and having a
regular job?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Oh seven foot, I could pay for a surgery to
shrink down to six to two. Come on, please, well, okay,
take out two femurs. You're good, all right? I mean
that you could. I mean that's a lot of money.
I'm sorry that I'm just saying.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
It's just kind of weird.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
There's options there.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Wow, I just think the uh, there's got to be
a better comp than the seven foot making half a
billion or regular dude six foot two?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like, yeah, how's that?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Could you find a better you could get?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You could get drafted in the draft had fifty five.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm saying, like, doesn't sound like it's a.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
Have to be so tall anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
I thought you were gonna say, like, we're good.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Would be like a tech entrepreneur who makes like four
hundred sols company. I mean, what's like, what is the
glary seven foot or doesn't have half a billion and
lacks ten inches on?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
The guy have to do what they like, by the way,
once in the NBA, make.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
It half a billions, just a regular I was not
gonna stand.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
LeVar, why of all draft selections and numbers you would
bring up why fifty five?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And well I just looked at and listened to the
measurables you guys gave, and that was a little you
gave a little bit much.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I mean you friendly with it.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
I'm just saying, damn, I could be a regular dude
and make it in.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Why you rounding up? Are you calling Browny James regular dude?
Speaker 4 (09:53):
I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Damn.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Oh, I didn't catch that.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
That's who you're using.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
I didn't use anybody's what.
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Speaker 6 (10:11):
I was, I was, I was a little foggy and
then all right, now I hear where you're going.
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Speaker 2 (11:39):
So everyone's kind of waiting to see what the hell
it's going to look like in New England without Bill
Belichick there walking the sidelines, and we already have some
information coming in that it's going to look a little
bit different. So, according to Mike Reese, who covers the
New England Patriots for ESPN, Drod Mail, the new coach
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there is going to change things up for training camp.
One example is how girod Mayo is putting his own
stamp on the Patriots. Is what time they plan to
practice in training camp? Eleven am Eastern Time. Under Belichick
in his final stretch of the seasons, the team practice
at nine thirty am. So he's bumping it back ninety
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minutes to go ahead and get everybody ready for the season,
which probably means ninety minutes later, which means ninety minutes
later also makes it hotter, and so that's how he's
going to get ready for the new England Patriots upcoming year,
a ninety minute delay on the start of training camp practice.
That's girod Mayo's first move as head coach of the
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New England Patriots there.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
So does anyone really have a problem with us?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, I'm not doing it so right care.
Speaker 6 (12:49):
I don't either, And I think when you look at
what time they play, I think with all but three
of their games or at.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
One pm Eastern yet I hope so.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
I mean, basically, he hit the hot time. That's rude,
the hottest time of the day. So it's it's New England,
which this time of year it can get hot. It's
still human, it's little bombing, but it's not like it's
South Florida or you know, Houston, Texas or somewhere else
like that.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So I'm not sure why this is such a big deal.
Speaker 6 (13:19):
I do think it is interesting though, that he's trying
to set a tone, because the initial tone once the
transition had happened was we're more team friendly. You know,
Elliott Wolf was making some comments, and you know, you
feel like maybe it's not as you know so much
about doing your job in business, even though it's part
of it. It's a little more open, little more loose,
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and this is an element where Okay, he wants to
still set the tone that he's not gonna be a
pushover just just because I may be perceived to be
a player's coach and I can talk to you and
we can kind of rap like that, Like that doesn't
mean I'm just gonna go ahead and let everything be easy.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
So I don't really have much of an issue with it.
Speaker 6 (14:03):
I think it probably makes sense too, just from training
these guys' bodies and their time clock to be ready
to compete, you know, close to that time of day
when they're actually gonna be playing games too.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
M hmm. I wonder.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
I wonder if it's more or if some of it
has to do with rest as well. You know, I
don't know what they're doing before before the practice out of eleven,
if they're their meeting, or what what the breakfast scenario
looks like. But I wonder if it is he giving
them a later wake up time, you know, because that
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that's definitely player friendly, even if you're going to have
to trade it in for practicing in morning time weather
versus you know, eleven right before just before noon weather.
Speaker 4 (14:46):
But I'd be curious as to what their what their schedule.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Is, you know, and and moving moving that ninety minute gap,
you know, is that more siesta because guys, you know,
I know that, you know, training camps aren't what they
used to be. And going out early was only the
first practice. It was always a second practice, and sometimes
there was a third practice at night.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Sometimes you do special situations or you do you know,
special teams, whatever it may be. But there were times
where you had three practices in one day. And so
I don't know in this new age of how things
are done and how practices are scheduled, and how much
rest time versus on time, how much super hard practices
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versus more more timing and different things and corrections, don't
I don't know what they're getting done in these one
practices anymore. So it would be I would be curious
to know how much how much meeting time is there
versus on field practice time.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
With Giraimeo's schedule.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Three days don't happen anymore, nothing of the.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
Fact, it's not that I've heard of. I don't think
two a days happen anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:04):
Really, that's what I've heard heard. Your only practice like
one time a day Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
A one to day with a walk through as a
second practice.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, why do you say it like that? Are you disappointed?
Is a different than when you guys are playing a.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Little I'm not disappointed in anything. I'm just saying it's different.
I don't know what the effects are, the impact of it,
what it represents. So I'm speaking blindly right now in
terms of knowing exactly what types of effect it has
on the body. You know, with the type of schedule
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they have, can you create more time for sleep or
more study time? You're going to have to do something
to replace what it is that you don't get out
of the physicality of practices. I just I'm curious as
to what that is at this point.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I've always wondered as well too, why don't if you
play your games at a certain time, why would you
not practice at that certain time to get your body
used to that that window of time that you're going
to be having to perform at. Like I've always thought sense,
like just from a standpoint of if we've got games
at one pm Eastern time, let's have practices at one
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pm Eastern time. And I don't know if that's you
know what the schedule's like, and whether or not that's
doable during the week or how that, how that goes.
But I've always like, if you've got a night game
coming up, why wouldn't you practice during the week at night?
I mean, to me, just from a from a body
clock standpoint, it seems like it would make the most sense.
And it doesn't seem like a lot of people do that.
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It's a little strange.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Yeah, well, I mean, listen, if if they were making
you head coach of the Patriots, how would you handle
a bar? What would you?
Speaker 5 (17:49):
I mean, I like a lot of what you're saying,
you know, in terms of practicing at the times that
that you're going to play, But ultimately, you have to
if you're the head coach of a team, you have
to look at the total, the totality of what the
scheduling looks like and what what has to get done.
And I don't know, I don't I don't know what
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the rules are concerning practice times or you know, air quality.
You know, it could be a lot of factors that
play apart. You know, when I was a head coach,
we had to schedule practices based off of the heat indecks,
and if the heat in decks at at you know
a certain time is too high, you're not allowed out
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there on the field. And and so that goes for
air quality as well, if the air quality is bad.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Like, there are a lot of things that.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
Will keep you off a field these days, and it's
out of your hands, you know, it's in it's in
the trainer's hands to tell you exactly what those elements
are that would keep you off the field.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
So I don't know exactly what would be.
Speaker 5 (18:54):
Playing a part and why you know you wouldn't practice
at that time other than like elements such.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Is that.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
The Patriots are going to be terrible this year like that.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
I don't know. You just never know, man. I mean
I think Houston changed that for everybody, all right.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Well, I mean listen, they think their win totals four
four and a half something like that. So there is.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
Rooined for these young defensive amount of head coaches.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
I mean, I'm against them.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
I just wonder how long is the.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
I thought you're gonna be more the defensive side, Like
you want this trend of defensive head coaches getting hired,
you know, like McDonald, like you got to you got
a few like young defensive minds that got hired.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
People like, oh, you don't sleep on these defensive minds.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
That's right, it's mostly you know, bring Belichick backbull back,
you know.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (19:49):
Let's just get real discriminatory here. Let's let's just go
all defense, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Sh There's always gonna be that divide, isn't.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
There, Yes, there's always yeah, natural, it's natural. Never, I'll
never go back on it.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
How long is the leash for Drod Mayo? Because if there,
if you know, they're subpar this year and it doesn't
look hot next year, I just wonder at what point,
I mean, everyone couldn't wait to get rid of Belichick.
He had to go his time, and you know it
had run its course, et cetera, et cetera. Yet he's
going to be the most coveted free agent coach on
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the market next year. And I just wonder how long
this goes on for before people go you know, maybe
it wasn't Belichick that was so much the problem. You know,
maybe Bobby Orchids has got some fan prints on this
whole thing, and maybe he's the guy, which is what
one of the reports was that Belichick looks at this
situation and says, if I go somewhere else and I
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have success, then he felt like Robert Craft undermining his
opportunity in Atlanta was because Robert Craft would have nobody
else to point to. Brady left, Belichick left, and now
they're not good. You can't point fingers at Belichick anymore.
Maybe maybe Robert Krafts got to be the one to
wear it.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Yeah, but they're already bad.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
I mean, well you're going to say, okay, they're more bad,
so that that now it isn't on Belichick.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
If they could be worse, Yeah, they could be worse.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
See, I mean not much.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
Look that the head coach was Robert Craft's pick, so
I think he's got a lot of wiggle room. You know,
if things don't go well initially, he's got a rookie
starting quarterback most likely if it if it's if it's
not Drake Man, it's gonna be Chacoby Brissett. So that'll
give him a little more time as well.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Let me see, I wonder who the betting favorite is
to be the starter to open up the year.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
It was Brissett.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
Earlier when we were going through this activity.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I think it was give me one, let me I'll
offer that, let me put that together. I'll work on
that during the break and we'll get some answers.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
There.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
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Speaker 2 (22:07):
So a lot of our friends who are joining us
this morning listening on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports.
It's the end of an era. The Paul George Kawhi
Leonard pairing that was going to ultimately result in an
NBA championship for the LA Clippers man up and vanished
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like a fart in the wind. Geez, Paul George's in Philadelphia.
He gets a four year, two hundred and twelve million
dollar max contract with the seventy six ers. James Harden's back,
but Paul George is gone. And when those two guys
got together, the thinking was, finally they're going to overtake LA.
They're going to be the team we all talk about,
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and it's not going to be the LA Lakers anymore.
The Clippers are going to run the show and just
everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. When one
guy was healthy, the other guy was injured, vice versa.
And so it's the end for Paul George in his
time with the LA with the LA Clippers, he's now
member of the Philadelphia seventy six ers and they have
the second shortest odds to win the NBA title next
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year because of it. And then also it appears Klay
Thompson end of another era, one that was actually successful.
Klay Thompson is going to be going elsewhere as the
Golden State Warriors and him are preparing for the breakup,
and he's going to go shop his talents around elsewhere
in the league, most notably Lebron James and the Lakers
have reached out to him to have a conversation so
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they could use a shooter. Yeah, they could use a
lot more, a lot more. Yeah, they use some more
of that. Kind of a bummer.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
I I'll never need to complain about needing more, you know,
because you have to maximize what you have when you
have it to get more.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Right. Yeah, Okay, go ahead, Now what were you saying?
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Well, I was gonna say it is kind of kind
of a bummer to see the Warriors that has been
so dominant for so long. They kind of changed the
way the NBA is now with the Splash Brothers that
this is going to be it like it's it's you know,
no longer going to be Stephan Clay and Draymond. Klay
Thompson's going to be elsewhere, and so it's kind of
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the closing of a chapter in the NBA, a highly
successful dynasty in the NBA, and now Klay Thompson's going
to go elsewhere. You kind of be anticipated. Steph was
always going to be the guy, but Klay Thompson. I
wonder had he not suffered the injuries and then you know,
the injury while he was recovering from another injury, sort
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of how his career would have panned out because he
just hasn't.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
Been this cy Clay was ahead of Steph in the beginning.
You know, he was like kind of like almost like
the main guy for a moment in time, and then
they become the Splash Brothers and then you know, the
rest is is pretty much history. I mean, Steph Curry
but comes just this bohemoth of a superstar in the
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league and they had one of the most historical runs
in a year, you know that they put in and
and you know what it's. It's it's kind of like
any dynasty that we've seen, a true dynasty that we've
seen in sports, they just they they end. You know,
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it just gets to a point of where you know,
time has passed, things aren't quite the same. You can't
you can't seem to refine or regain the magic that
that you had. And then people start going different places,
and you know, one thing leads to another and then
here we go. So Klay Thompson, I mean, becoming the
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sixth man this year, I kind of feel like the
handwriting was already on the wall. They did a lot
without them because of injuries and and and so I
think I think the fan base and even the NBA
world got a chance to kind of fix their hearts
in their minds to say goodbye if this was indeed
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going to be it for him, and you know, in
Golden State, but I don't know. He's had a brilliant
career and regardless of where he goes or what he does,
I mean, he's always I think he's obviously had a
Hall of Fame career at this point, and so he's
just you know, it's just house money at this point
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as to how that looks and what he does moving forward,
But as it applies to Golden State, to definitely probably
you have to say this is the end of an era,
like it probably is done, it's not.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I mean, it's the end of an era, but I
think you have to acknowledge the fact that it is
the end of one of the greatest dynasties in an NBA.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
History, and not just for the success.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
I mean, if you go back to was it twenty fourteen,
the run they went on winning the NBA Finals then,
but they went to it for was it five straight years,
winning three of those five. I mean, it's pretty ridiculous
when you take that into account how successful they were
during that run. I know they won in twenty twenty
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one as well, but when you take that into account,
but also the fact that they changed the way the
game is played during that series of five years. They
spread out the floor and they really, you know, everyone
really tried to find someone who could replicate the combination
of Stephan Clay and the three point shooting prowess.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
Both those players really the team as a whole, and
tried to adapt to that.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I mean, the NBA changed during that period of time
and it's never gone back. You know, not saying that.
You know, rimt protectors, big men are relevant, but if
they can't stretch the court to a degree, their impact
has been lessened in a huge way. I mean, imagine
a player like Shaq playing in today's game, even being
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one of the greatest, one of the most dominant players,
I don't know that he be viewed quite the same
as he was in an era where you know, big
men were fed the basketball, the offenses were still built
around having a guy like that, a dominant force in
presence in the interior. You just don't see that quite
as much. And that's what's interesting, is is when you
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look at the impact that Clay had, Steph has had,
and Draymond to your point, LeVar, like we all know
this stuff comes to an end, and whoever was going
to be the first to leave and be the guy
to eventually break up.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
The band, you know, that's irrelevant to me.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
The impact that they've had has been foundationally changing as
far as the way the NBA now operates and how
teams play, And it's like, that's what I'll remember them
for is as much as you want to give all
the credit Steph Curry. Klay Thompson was part of that too,
and they literally changed the way the NBA game is
played now.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
You won't know how bad I am at gambling. How
bet there was a Friday night game years ago and
I bet the under. It was I forget who the
Warriors were playing, but I bet the under of the
first half in the game. That was the game. Klay
Thompson scored thirty seven points in a quarter. I remember
looking at my dad going, I literally can't win a bet,
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and he could. He would not miss a shot. I've
never seen anything like it. I don't know that I've
ever seen anybody get that hot in to where he
was like even like his players were like there's the
old film of and video of Larry Bird when he
got hot against the Atlanta Hawks, and even you know,
the opposing team was like jumping around because they couldn't
believe how many shots he was hitting in a row.
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Klay Thompson could not miss thirty seven points in a quarter.
One of the most amazing performances I've ever seen. And
I would on the opposite side of that. As far
as gambling goes, completely lost my ass. But it was
so impressive that I said, Okay, you know what, I'll
just wear it. So, uh, hell of a run. Twelve
years for Klay Thompson, four NBA championships. He's got all
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the lebar mentioned Hall of Fame credentials in the world,
and now he gets to go, you know, pursue some
other possibilities out there. Obviously, his dad played for the Lakers,
so maybe there's a connection there, Maybe there's a tie
in there, but he will not be playing for the
Golden State Warriors any longer.
Speaker 5 (30:30):
So I mean, anybody can make it onto the roster
right now in that lake.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (30:34):
What's that supposed to be?
Speaker 5 (30:36):
As long as you got a good d you know
what I mean. So the fact that his daddy played there,
Mike Yo, daddy, Yo, daddy played for the Lakers, you
might you know, end up there?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (30:47):
How they do it now? Like you gotta I mean,
I don't know your dad plays there, like you qualify.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
I don't know. Well, I just don't feel like it's
out of the question.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
I feel like there's enough information that would say Klay
Thompson is one hundred good enough to play for the
Lakers today.
Speaker 4 (31:10):
I mean I would say that.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I would also say what you know, I would also
say that, you know, I mean other teams did want
Broddy James. It wasn't just the Lakers. But you know
the threat of going on.
Speaker 4 (31:26):
Who told you that?
Speaker 2 (31:28):
I'm just saying, you know.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Told you that. Where Where'd that come from? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Where did that come from?
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Why else would why else would he call?
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Yeah? Why else would Rich Paul threaten teams that he
would just go to Australia if he didn't?
Speaker 5 (31:39):
You know, were there any responses from the people that
he actually called and threatened and said, don't don't draft
Bruni Games?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I mean, I'm assuming otherwise why would that story come out?
You know, like the threat threat was real and they
were flexing some muscles there, you know, you take him,
We're going to Australia. So everybody everybody backed off and said, okay,
you got to go.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Just leave him there.
Speaker 5 (32:04):
Eli Manning, same thing, you know, John Elway, you know
the same thing. Bo Jackson like, hey man, I don't
I don't want to play for I don't want to
play for anybody else.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
But did Steve Caleb Williams, you know, it's a real threat.
It's a real thing too, you know, by the.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Way, Brady, you threw out the you know, potential, like,
how could this happen in the world of football? And
I think you're you were given an example in the
notes that would be fascinating if college football, like what's
the what's the plan there? Just basically where they don't
put a cap on how long you can play in
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college football?
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Do you want me to go down this one?
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:45):
Yes, alright, well no, it's someone someone had proposed the
idea with the recent house settlement case, since player is
going to receive a portion.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Of revenue share, and this is just an idea, like.
Speaker 6 (32:59):
Hold your criticism, okay, but let's think outside the box,
because you know, if you look at, for example, how
I guess Rich Paul in this case and Bronnie James
or the James family was able to leverage the.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
I guess the lineup.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Don't draft Bronnie because if you do, he's not gonna
want to play for you. There's only one team he
wants to play for. That's the Lakers. Otherwise he's gonna
go to Australia. You know, in the NBA, you can
do that because there's other opportunities elsewhere of professional leagues.
In the NFL, they don't have anything like that. There
is no competition, right like the NFL is the NFL.
It's the pinnacle of professional football in the world. Now,
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there are other leagues out there. There's a European league
that's starting up. There's some former NFL coaches, NFL players
who are over there, you know, coaching being a part
of it.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
There's obviously the CFL, there's obviously the UFL.
Speaker 6 (33:54):
There, there's these other leagues that are there, but none
of them come close to comparing to the NFL. The
only thing, and it's not just you know, that's not
even just second fiddle. It is the second most consumed
sport is college football outside of the NFL. College football
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is second to the NFL in that regard as far
as consumption of live.
Speaker 4 (34:18):
Events in sports.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
And this particular case where my mind kind of went
to was, well, what really could ever challenge the NFL
where a draft pick could use leverage before the draft
and say I'm not gonna go there. We heard rumors
about that with Caleb Williams, and the stories of old
used to be, well, the player would basically say to
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the team, and if they're a dual sport athlete, I'll
just go play the other sport. Baseball is particularly been
the case. If they're a player who's got the ability
to sit out a year, that's say, go ahead, draft me,
but I'm not coming to play for you. I'm gonna
sit out until the next year's draft. Then you guys
can figure it out. Trade me, you know, work out
a deal. That was the only reco worse you really had.
You couldn't threaten to go to another league. And this
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isn't back to what the USFL, you know, days where
you had another competing league. We saw guys would do that.
And so really the only competing league that could be
that the NFL probably wouldn't see coming, and they don't
really have any partnership with.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
In this sense is college football.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
It's college football.
Speaker 6 (35:19):
And so imagine if you removed the eligibility limits, which,
mind you, it's already getting to a point where it's
a little bit absurd. I mean, there are kids more
often than not playing six years. They have the COVID year,
they have the red share year, they apply for additional
waivers for medical reasons. Of all sorts by the way.
(35:40):
I mean, some are legitimate, some are a little bit
getting out there. I mean, you've got a player who
I believe the tight end is he still down to
Miami's playing like his eighth.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Year or whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
Oh, is it Cam whatever his name is, something like that.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
But it's getting the point where you go, Okay, let's
just think about this and now outside the box thinking
what I'm.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
If the NCAA did away, not even the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
Whatever, you know, whether it's the Power four conferences, now,
you know, whether it's whatever federal government legislation comes out
that basically doesn't put a cap on eligibility limits. What
if the greatest competition in the NFL was actually college football,
and college football ended up saying the difference between us
and you is we could take these kids right out
(36:24):
of high school, and we could pay them right out
of high school, and we can never let them go
to your league, and you can keep them.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Until they either choose to or we don't have an agreement.
They go back and forth.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
I just you know, this is the time of year
to have these conversations because there's nothing else going on.
But there is that thought of if they took away
eligibility limits, there would be players who would stay. They
would continue to stay and play for that university, and
it would be incredibly interesting to see how that would
work in the long term as far as you know,
(36:56):
if you could have a guy there who would just
kind of be there forever as the quarterback Tom Brady
or you know, however would work out with various players
position groups.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
But if you look at college football.
Speaker 6 (37:09):
And where it's going, taking players who are once deemed
to amateur and then basically providing them rev share, they're
getting paid now with nil and they're venturing into this
professional sports world. What would stop all of a sudden
college football from competing with the NFL Outside of the
NFL having a rich history and all, you know this
head start on college football, But if you really want
(37:29):
to dig into it, college football has been around longer
than the NFL has, and the ties to universities are
much greater than what people you know have I would
say to their NFL teams.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
So it's just a thought.
Speaker 6 (37:44):
It would be interesting to see if it ever grew
to that case, or what comes from this house settlement,
to see if they're still going to keep eligibility, you know,
terms in place where you'll have those you know, five
years to play four moving forward, or if that will
even change.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Cormick returning for his ninth season at Miami. He was
a part of the twenty sixteen recruiting class, which I
believe also featured Justin Herbert if I'm not mistaken, and
he's going to be playing his ninth year of college
football coming up.
Speaker 6 (38:16):
This day, let me just give you a sense of
how different my life was when Cam McCormick was coming
out of high school going to college.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
I didn't have any.
Speaker 6 (38:24):
Kids, Bro, I didn't have any kids. I had been
married for about two years. I basically my last training
camp I was with a twenty fourteen, I was with
the Dolphins, and I think I had somewhere in that
point in time started getting evaluated for having back surgery
and all that around that time.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
That's how long, Like that is a different.
Speaker 6 (38:48):
Life for me personally, Like when you start having kids,
you start a whole new life, Like that is, whatever
you knew before before you had kids did not exist.
Speaker 3 (38:57):
Like it's just a new life you're living now that
that dude's been in college for that long. That's crazy.
Speaker 4 (39:04):
That is crazy.
Speaker 5 (39:07):
You don't realize how quickly college goes for you until
you get a little older. It's like it seemed like
there was a long time, but it doesn't really doesn't
really hit until a little later, at least not for me.
But to be there for nine years, nine years, you
are a super ridiculously, super duper uberly duper senior there.
(39:30):
I don't even know what that qualification is. You've done
it two times over plus one for extra credit.
Speaker 2 (39:36):
Twenty six years old, man, And it's it's.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
Basically been between what Oregon and Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
Yeah, I mean, i'd say this one.
Speaker 3 (39:43):
It's Miami.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
That's a kind of an upgrade there. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Talking about holding on though, God Lee, it's like Van Wilder,
I mean it's man, can you imagine throwing a party?
But if you should know everything for incoming freshmen, like
at twenty six, like.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
If he's not gonna be an NFL prospect and he's
got the opportunity to still play, like man, why not?
Like I don't want to go play Europe, I don't
want to play in the CFL like I like.
Speaker 5 (40:11):
And when I'm done, I'm done. So I'm gonna just
try to ride just till the wheels fall off, you know,
Like I wonder, does he injure himself on purpose? Like
I mean, no shade, but dang I did.
Speaker 6 (40:24):
Just see a video of a police officer and trying
to throwing himself onto a car, trying to get trying
to get medical leave.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
To say, you know, just just trying to get free
wouldn't be the worst. It wouldn't be the worst hustle. Yeah,
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