July 2, 2024 • 42 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Celtics are up for sale. Conspiracy theories emerge after Travis Kelce endorses a team in London. NFL Reporter, Albert Breer weighs in on Aaron Rodgers visit to Egypt and contract negotiations around the league.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with Lamar Rady Win and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Y'all both got proud the soccer team or no, yeah
them too.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That was off sides though not that it really mattered,
but still that was off side, right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't know who cares. I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Everyone's up in arms about it. It's like, I don't know, Well,
I can't have.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You said the ref dont want to shake plastic sand
after the match.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Said something offensive to him.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Well, that's fine. You can still kind of shake afterwards, right,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's called good sportsmanship for certain You know, you don't
want to execute poor sportsmanship, especially as a as a ref.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, you make it seem like, you know, maybe you're
rooting for Aguay.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You know, somebody might have had a visit to your
room or was was coming.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
How to pronounce it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Here we go? Why you say it?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Thank you? No, you're a guy.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You're a guy.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I thought it was Oh wow, that's awful bad. By
the way, our friends listening out there on the iHeartRadio app,
we want to apologize that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
It actually was offensive to someone that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Bad.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeahang, I feel like there's a lot of ways we
could have taken that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, there was a couple of things I was thinking,
and I was like, no, I'm not going to even
say it. No, I was all right.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So we were off and running here on a Tuesday morning. Obviously,
yesterday was sort of the the tip off a free
agency in the end, in the NBA, we can't say
kickoff because it is the football term, so tip off,
you know, feel feels a little bit more appropriate. But
nonetheless though, well, you know, just depends. And then you
(02:16):
see the Boston Celtics of defending champs just making a
couple of moves. Ho hum, Jason Tatum gets an NBA
record five years, three hundred and fourteen million.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Dollar extension, a couple of coins.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, you know, just one hundred dollars more than what
Paul George got earlier on Sunday. And then you saw
Derek White get a four year, one hundred and twenty
six million dollar extension, absolutely deserved so you can afford
all the dental work he possibly needs. Oh and then
here yeah, yeah, I mean listen, uh and then you know,
just uh yeah, they're selling the team too.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So there.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, there's that too. Let's give out these big guys contracts.
I know about a way we're selling this.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Can I add quite possibly the greatest stat on top
of that, their pay next year alone between the five
guys of as starters now is more than what they
paid for for the franchise twenty some years ago.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Talk you about that three hundred and sixty million dollars
they bought it for in two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, what's it on sale for. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's gonna be in the billions.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, it'll be. Uh, they're going to make a nice
chunk of change. And if you were gonna sell it,
why not sell it that? Like right now, like got
another championship. It's a second for the current ownership group
that's there, so they get their title. Now they put
it up for sale, and I just want to, like,
I have a feeling there's going to be a celebrity
(03:41):
or somebody, like there's a lot of celebrity Celtic fans
out there, somebody's like Wohlberg. They gave like one of
those guys like it's going to get their hands on it,
although I don't know if they have wealth.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I've said this before, they don't and no one does.
I mean outside of maybe what you heard, you know,
a few days ago, where there's you know, thousands of
trillionaires in America, there's not There's not even that many billionaires.
And what's become more common in professional sports in sports
ownership is these these ownership groups that you do have
(04:16):
one majority owner and he's probably gonna put a lot
of money into it, but then you have a big
pool of limited partners and those limited partners are investors,
but not as much money, you know, at least individually
into it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
But they bring something else to the table.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So for example, Mark Wahlberg, you know, his personality is notoriety.
Maybe it's you know, Wallburger's everywhere. I don't know what
it is, but.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You know, they bring something else to the table.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And that's how essentially now these these new ownership groups
in sports are working out. So it's it's not you know,
it's not gonna be one individual necessarily, even though that
one individual will be the majority owner. I do think,
I guess I'll ask you this. Don't you think they
know who it is?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Though?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Like, don't they don't you think they have it inked up,
because otherwise, how in the world do you've agree to
all these deals and give out all this money and go, yep, no,
this is someone else to deal with, Like someone else
can figure.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
This out right.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
And then maybe there was a conversation they had as
well too, like, hey, you know, it's been a good ride.
We've been doing this over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If we win one, we're out.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
And then maybe that's how the conversation started going. And
then somebody had the expectation and said, Okay, well is
this still happening?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It still is, And here's what we're thinking. Lock Tatum up.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
We've already given Brown the monster contract, Derek White's got
his deal. It's turnkey, ready to go championship team, and
it's yours. And the most recent sale of a team
was three point five billion. That was the Dallas Mavericks
last year.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So why are people selling their teams? Why did why
did Mark Cuban get out? Is that just the culture?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They aren't cash flowing businesses, even though people think they are.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They're they're not as much as people think. And so
I think after.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
A while, I mean, you've got to dump a lot
of money into these things. To make them profitable, and
you gotta win, and so your exit is really when
you make the money, is when you increase the value
of the franchise and the NBA. Those those professional teams
actually trading go for a much more structured model than
other professional franchises. So the first thing to say is
(06:32):
they do it to get some of their money back, man,
because it's expensive though these professional franchises, whether it's dumping
money back into the arenas or you know, different cash
you're paying out for the star players. So you can
be competitive, win championships, but it's to get there, you know.
They's called it equity multiple that that return. But then
they also do it just because they don't.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I mean, it's it's a lot of time and stress.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I think if you want to be good at it right,
it's like anything else.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's not like you just turn on a switch and
the thing goes. It's pretty hard.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It's pretty hard to be able to do that, and
I think they've done a tremendous job with building up
that organization to have the right structure to be able
to be consistently successful.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I always thought it was like something you keep in
your family forever, like an Ever, I've.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Said it before, Dude, the estate tax and you passed
it from one generation to the.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Next is huge. It's huge. Wow were you were you
on that last week?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I said that? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I know one NFL owner he had to go to
Bermuda and live there as a resident for seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Technically that's where he had to live in order to inherit.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's not but in order to inherit the team, inherit
it tax free.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's where they That's that was how it was set
up for.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Structure seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds like it sounds like it's awesome.
And then you're like, all right, little.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well I was thinking this as well too, Like I
used to think, man, that would be so cool to
own an like an NFL team or on a sports team,
And then I just have to come to terms with
I don't want to own one. I just want to
be good friends with somebody that does.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
It's like I don't want to own a boat. I
just want to be able to borrow whatever I want
to do it, Like, I don't want to have to
worry about the day to day operations yet you know
all that stuff, like just like you guys handle that.
But we've put a lot of time in his friends.
Just let me borrow it for an hour or so.
That's all it is. So you know, maybe you know
we could see friends like that, you do, I do?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like who Well, Danny John Beeson is the first name
that comes He's the reason why I want to get
this boat. Like I love his boat. It's amazing. Oh,
you gonna get a boat one day. One day, Like
when I'm done with all of this, I'll get a
boat because that's probably where I'll be a lot. I
like to fish. I like to catch fish. I like
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to process it, and then I like to cook it
right then and there on the boat. Like used to
be my thing. Like twice a year, I'd go out
with my father in law and my kids and we
go fish and I'd have my chef on because you know,
I had a restaurant, and my chef from my restaurant
would be there and we chopped them bad boys up
(09:06):
rock fish right out of the water. That's like my thing.
My ultimate thing is to eat fish the rest of
my way at the end. But for now, I got friends,
you know, Shots out the Mic and Carmen Pace they
got more than one jet. They got a couple some
nice ones too. They got some nice ones. Man might
(09:28):
even be bigger than that. They like got a real
like like they bawling, how much is a nice fishing boat?
I don't. I don't want a fishing boat. I want
a bad ass, bad ass yacht that I fish off. Yeah,
where I had where I have like a fish area,
you know what I mean? Like I wanted I need
to have that fish area where I can get the
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guts out of there and chop it up and all
that stuff and just just blow, you know, like wash
it off. Pontoon Like I thought about it. I was
close to get one when I lived in an Apolis,
like a really really hopped up one that you could
just go out all day in, you know, super nice.
Yeah we uh, I told you.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Me and like four other buddies chipped in like five
hundred bucks each and bought a pontoon boat.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And after two trips it was.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Nicknamed the Floating Coffin because it was a complete disaster.
Somebody like my buddy thought he was doing a good
job putting in the stereo. It was shorting out while
we walk We were on the water, like it was
just not a great idea, and we probably took it
out like three four times and just we realized, this
is a waste of money. It's never gonna happen, so
you'll probably but you can get really, really really nice
(10:38):
pontoon boats.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
They don't go very fast. No, they don't go You
don't want to go fast. Yeah, it's relaxing. Yeah, I
don't want to go fast. Well, Jimmy Buffett on the
water Yeat Rock, Yeah, okay a little bit. I'm all
in on pontoons, just not like in like big water,
just like little lakes, creeks, stuff like that. You guys
(11:00):
want us to go h going on a pontoon.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
I saw a pontoon boat the other day that was
dressed like a tiki bar.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
See that would be dope I had and everything.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Oh, it was like it was like a full circle.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
By the way, there's no way whoever owns that boat
is not an alcoholic.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Speaking of what's less, when was the last time I've
been on a boat and stayed in it and stayed
in it and didn't fall off. Speaking of.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Like a pontoon boat or just a.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Boat boat, any.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Boat, uh, you know might not have been this year,
But I go to the lake quite often.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
To what the lake is for? It's a phrase, what
the lake is for?
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah, I was doing seedws on the last time I
went to the lakes A good time.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I don't know if you took the boat out.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah, I don't think we did.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think we did.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I think we just did seeds last time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You guys because it was too muddy or you guys
got Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
That's right, it was too muy. Yeah, we can get
the back.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Why do you be knowing so much about people's personally,
because I listen when people tell me stuff, so I know,
I just remember little details. And Lee was telling me
a story. We have no life with that too.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
But Lee was telling me a story on the way
back from it was either Ireland or it was South Carolina,
and he was telling me how he had a trip
planned with his buddies. They were going to the lake
and they were going to get together. And I asked
him about it and he said it didn't go as
smoothly because it got muddy everywhere because they had rained recently.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Yeah, we had to hike out of it. We had
to hike out so because it was so muddy. Yeah,
that was bad hike out of what out of the
camping site? I mean, we couldn't even take the car
all the way to the camping site. We have a
my buddy has a camping grounds on the lake, like
lake lake front and.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
See I've been there. You've been there.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's like a wine or something. Really explain this again too,
by the way, you.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Said your buddy has a camping ground, like he's a
spot he goes to.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Well, it's a family plot and they have like a
bunch of trailers that are front side of the lake,
like each each part of the family has their own. Yeah,
some shanties. It's a shanty town. They're actually very luxurious
trailers right on the lake.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Is this the story.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Stoking too smoking?
Speaker 8 (13:25):
No, anyway, there's a big hill that you have to
go up and down over the hill to the lakeside.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yes, that is correct, And it was very mundy.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
It was it rained, and we we were smart to
not take the car all the way over the hill
because we would not have been able to get out
of there. We had to hike out because there was
rain and uh yeah, alright, then there you go. That's
that's the story.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Of that.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And by the way, that was the trip that I
think you took the rest of the teeling whiskey with
you too.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That is oh I remember these details. Yeah, from Ireland.
He brought it back as a gift.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I didn't think he had any left.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You help filled.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I killed one bottle, but they had another.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I see why so many people like you though you
know all their business that they tell you.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I just he's the perfect friend.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
If you black out around him, you love blacking out exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Again. You know what, you know what happened last night? Man?
Why blackout when you can black back?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
He's so stupid.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
That's those stupid you guys got problems man.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
All right, So there's your your recap of NBA Free agency.
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Speaker 5 (15:35):
Here's a shout out for you. Shout it out. It
a shout out to Travis Kelsey. Yeah, he was recently
talking on the New Heights podcast.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, how he.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Goes on stage and how he's been kind of just
doing the same things that that is. What's her name?
He Swift? Yeah, Taylor Swifted to him dring football season. Yeah,
basically he's just popping up on stage now may as
well flopping her down on couch, picking her back up,
flopping her back down on the couch in the middle
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of the show.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, listen, he's he's all over the place. And he
was on his podcast, the New Heights Podcast with his
brother Jason.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You're fool dude, and.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
God, what what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I know it's a link.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
At one point in the Lincoln says all butts from game,
and it says on one of the captions, Denarious Targarian,
mother of dragons, mother of butts, stupid?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Why did it do win? Though?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Damn I'm getting out of this.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Him.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But Lee you you can. You showed taste one of
the many that should be ranked ahead of Jonasis.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No One showcase. That's that's the one. Yeah, that's it's Lisa. Yeah,
all right, So let's talk about the same person, bro.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
That is indeed it is uh Travis Kelsey talking with
his brother Jason Kelsey podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It is not.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Yeah, I can't confirm. All right, So let's listen to
Travis Kelsey talking about the potential of a team going
to London. Because somebody here on this show has got
a piping hot conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Would you play for a team in London? Yes, yes,
I'm questionably.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
I'm actually I'm waiting for that team to play for
another team other than Chiefs, Like that's the only situation
is if I get to.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Play abroad by your home team be abroad. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
How long do you think it would be before there's
an NFL team in London ten years, you think within
the decade.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
I don't know for a fact it's going to be London,
but I think the teams.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
I think if there's an NFL team, the first city
it's coming to is London.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'll go on record for that.
Speaker 11 (18:12):
I mean it's where we've been playing for the most overseas.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
Yeah, there's almost amount of fans here. There's the biggest
appetite in London. It's a major market. The only other
cities that it would also be in would be, like,
I know, Germany has a lot of NFL fans. Should
probably be a German team, I'd assume in Munich or Berlin,
but I think London's getting the first one if it
ever happens.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So, I mean they've gotten the most games, right, They've
that's been the most. Wimberley has been the most most
consistent places or place where the games. What is Wemby
or Wimberley Wembley, No, Wimbley Wembley. They've gotten the most games, right,
It's almost like Jacksonville's home field, but not their home field. Yeah, yeah,
(18:56):
I mean it seems like a spot.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, so my understanding of how that would make the
most sense is.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Logistically well, this kind of a little too early, not
really getting into that part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Can keep let's say, live studio band and just turn.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Off.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
My understanding of how it would make sense to have
a team is in London is to not have a
team in London is to have four teams in that
general vicinity. So you would you would pick out London,
you'd pick out Germany'd pick out maybe Dublin, Ireland, whatever
other international cities you're looking at over there, and it
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would be easiest between the divisional games they play with
their other three teams in their division and then flying
to the East Coast, which will be essentially the equivalent
of West Coast teams flying to the East coast of
the United States. You would essentially be you know, kind
of playing those sorts of schedules, and you know, every
once in a while you'd be having a West Coast
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team called the World across or one of those international
teams come all the way across. But that is how
it was proposed a while back in regards to how
it would work from a scheduling standpoint, So you don't
have one team facing this burden of all this travel
kind of similar to like the Seattle Seahawks, who on
average typically travel more than most teams in the NFL.
(20:30):
But that was not the Really the conspiracy theory. The
conspiracy theory is it's more about Travis Kelce. The thought
to this is, and I'm not into this whole conspiracy
theory things, but there's a lot of things that have
been adding up here. Okay, I don't know if it's him,
I don't know if it's everyone around him. Let's just
(20:52):
kind of dive through everything, all right, and go down
this rabble because it's that time of year. So of course,
go back to COVID the player, a singular player who
gets the big Pfizer deal telling everyone to take the vaccine.
It could have been anyone in the NFL, any player.
(21:12):
Instead it goes to Travis Kelsey. He is the messenger.
He is the man who's going out for everyone to
go get their COVID shot. I don't care how you feel,
whether you're for it against it, whatever data you ascertained
before or after and all that, it doesn't matter. I'm
just saying he was the guy that was selected. Also,
and lead a lap can back me up on this,
(21:33):
because we've talked about Travis Kelcey's dating history Taylor Swift
just it seemed like it kind of came out of
left field, right, Yes, And you've now got this relationship
that has helped you prop up the NFL. It has
literally brought an entirely different demographic that never watched NFL
games before. Who are t Swift fans? And now they
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are a part of the conversation. And yet he was
the player to be prayed around and all that, and
it looks like it's legitimate, looks like it's a real relationship,
just saying. And so now he's the player that messages
to everyone else like, oh yeah, I'd go play for
an international team.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I'd go over there hard. That's the one team I'm
waiting for.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It just feels like he's the guy that's extremely likable.
He's a first ballot Hall of Famer, and there's something there.
I mean, look, I'm with him too though when I
was playing, like, I would have loved to have gone
and played for international team. It'd be kind of awesome
to go through that experience. But there's also an element
of just there's something else going on here. He seems
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to be the conduit the guy that the NFL likes
to use to get messaging out in some fashion or
for him.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I buy it. I buy it, But I mean, how
big is how big of a deal? I guess I
would be wondering how big of a deal is it
to figure out, you know, how the fans feel about
there being the team in Europe.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Let me ask you, Let me ask you, just to
play Devil's advocate? Why him? Like why why was he chosen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
To be Taylor swift Man? Well, like just to have
all of this like why him? Like why was it?
Travis Kelcey? Was it? You know?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Quarterback is too They already have all the attention and
do all that, So let's pick another position player.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Somebody will to.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Ask you this, how many tight ends do you disdain? Like?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
How many tight ends can you think of that are unlikable?
In fact, I would I would actually go on to
say that for the most part, tight ends are like
the most likable players in the team.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh yeah, they do everything.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
They block for you, run blocking for the running backs
or pass blocking for the quarterbacks, wide receivers. They're also
run routes for you. They're there when you're under duress.
When did you get a hot route right breaks off
his route breaks off hot.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Where you're able to hit him there. They're good leaders.
They're the one position group outside of that's it.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
The edge rushers too, but tight ends are able to
get together and go through the tight end you and
everything else that's come about from all of that. But
they're asked to do a little bit of everything. They're
usually a key player on special teams or playing some
role on special teams, just Sam Man.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
They're kind of one of the more likable positions.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And if you think about some of the stars of
the NFL, about Gronk, think about Travis Kelceronk is a
big guys like George, I mean, David and Joke.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You're like, like, what tight end do you not like?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But now you look at.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
It, that guy, that guy's kind of a jerk, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I think Gronk is a very Gronk is like the
football version of Shaq. Yeah, Like he's like a celebrity,
Like like he's Gronk.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Do you think do you think they wanted to uh,
they wanted it to be Gronk And just halfway through
the interview, processor like I had this guy just there's
no way he'll be able to keep a straight face
through all this.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Well maybe it was Timmy Swift that was like, yeah,
I can't do.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That, like that could this could go back? Said this guy?
What about Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I mean, why not what I'm saying, like, why did
it have to be Travis Kelcey?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Why not go with somebody who's like, you know, especially
with the co or like somebody who's got like you
know that has shown the ability to be immune to
things like why not Deshaun.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Wats Like why not him?
Speaker 5 (25:27):
You know, squeaky clean reputation all right, seemingly uh you know,
figures out a way to go through all that still
get a record contract? Like how far down the list
would you go before Deshaun Watson would be the I.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mean, he'd be right there at the top for me.
So yeah, man, I'm in agreeance with you. Yeah, I
mean talk about a bounce back type of deal, you know,
being able to to get through all of the germs.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Maybe there was a question if you could rise to
the occasion, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
How do you rise to the occasion over and over again?
And I just you know, I think there's something to
be said about Yeah, I agree. Yeah, man, that's a
good point. I don't know though, I'm just trying to
figure it out. Does it have to be Taylor Swift?
Taylor Swift, We've seemed to be the perfect storm of
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all of this in terms of who you end up dating.
That that kind of opens everything up to a different,
different group of fans. Right, So she's.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Global, I mean that's the thing is she.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Is literally global.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, so if you were going to go after one
person who again, outside of apparently the jet fuel and
the carbon emissions, she's pretty much bulletproof herself.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
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Speaker 5 (26:52):
Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
You can get them on Twitter or x at Albert
Breer ab. Happy fourth of July week?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
How are you, hey? Guys? What's happening?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
He First of all, did you figure out the situation
and then Nantucket to get your car over?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Did that go?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I did?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I would just say I showed up at four am
on Friday, since the standby has been shut down completely,
so you can't drive your car on anymore without a reservation.
So we would have been screwed about twenty four hours later.
And I just put it this way, being nice to
people who who are working in these situations is the
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best way to get things done. That's that's what I
would say. Just be nice to people, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Did you have to bribe anybody or kick college?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
No, no bribery, I just I mean I just sort
of befriended a couple people at the at the ferry
Port and they were very, very nice, and I'm sure
they've been treated like crap, you know, all week, and
so it all worked out for me. Like I said,
treat people well and they'll take Harry all right.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
That's a good adage, a good rule to live by.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Albert, I want to ask you because you're the one
that tipped us off to uh maybe an Egyptian vacation.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
From Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He's so tired.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Then Marquez Valdez brings it out and uh he happens
to blurt it out. I guess that that's where he went.
So now that we have confirmation from sitting outside.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
About by the way, I want to make sure I'm
right about like because I did obviously I know it's
out there now, but like, was it mvs?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Was he?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
That was that the first it? Like he just blurted
it out on the on the herd, right, correct, That's great,
that's great that that's how it came out.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Anyway, you you being a member of the media, and
given I guess the requirements being in the media, you're
gonna have to be critical of this. How will this
be viewed in the short term and and give us
your take on how this is going to be viewed
in the long term or none of it mattered in
the long term.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I think it's short term. I like, honestly, like if
we're talking short term, like the next couple of I think,
you know, it's going to be quickly forgotten it and
not talked about a whole lot. And then you know,
I think when he shows up the training camp and
he speaks for the first time, he'll have to address it.
And then if something goes wrong, like then people are
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willing to point back to it. Whether that's fair or not.
You know, I think that's part of the price of
doing it like this way, and having that trip during
the mandatory mini camp is that you know, when you
miss something mandatory and look like it's not totally buried
there because Aaron was there for the entire offseason program
and you know, there are other quarterbacks who missed more
(29:39):
of their team's offseason programs than Aaron did. However, the
fact that he missed the mandatory thing that he knew
that it would be a big deal if he did,
and he did it anyway, it's gonna, like I think,
going forward, have this is something that's just sort of
lingering out there. And so you know, if they have
a great camp and they and they start five and zero,
(30:01):
like this is all forgotten. If they have bumps early
in camp or the offense doesn't look right and then
they start owing too, then everybody's going to point back
to it, and everybody's gonna say, oh, well, he's not
really locked in. And again, whether that's fair or not,
like I think that's sort of the price of it,
and being in New York only magnifies that, Like this
is this is where I think there is an actual
(30:22):
difference between being in Green Bay and being in New York.
Like I don't look at the coverage is that different.
The Packers are intensely covered in the state of Wisconsin,
and you know, every media outlet in Wisconsin is is
focused very very very singularly on the Packers, you know.
So it's not like the Jets. It's not the Jets
are covered all that much more intensely. But when it
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comes to stuff like this that I think is where
the difference is. So I think something like this could
you know, just kind of linger in the background and
then if something goes wrong, people will point back to it.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Where does the Bland get point at in Dallas if
their season doesn't go well? Obviously they're they're you know,
ceedee lamb has not reported or it doesn't seem to
be on on the cusp of reporting that there's there's other,
uh contract issues out there. Do you think they get
a contract done with any of these guys? Albert and
(31:18):
and they're so like, what where where does the Blane go?
Does it go to coach, quarterback or ownership or all
of these?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, I think part of the prompt is like the
Blaine probably goes to the person you can't fire, right like, So,
I mean, like I do think a lot, a lot
of the stuff that's out there right now. This stuff
is going to be an issue for them when they
get to training camp. Whether it's Mike McCarthy's contract, it's uh,
you know, Zach Prescott's contract, to see Lamb's contract, it's
(31:47):
Michael Parsons contract. That all inspect to ownership. And this
is the thing, like when the ownership is making football
decisions that they're going one place at the point when
it comes to things like this. And so it's hard
to Mike McCarthy for the fact that the three best
players on the team are employed in contract situations, you know.
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And then obviously Mike McCarthy's contract situation is up to ownerships.
So you know, I think all of this points back
to the Jones family, and you know, I'll give Jerry
and Stephen, you know, and then credit for this, like
they've never been afraid to wear a target on their
back when it comes to stuff like this. But we
have been down this road with them before, you know,
and you know, you look back. They had to pay
(32:31):
more for Zach Martin because they waited to do a
contract with them. They had to pay more for DeMarcus
Lawrence because they waited to do a contract with them.
They did pay more of the first time around for
Dak Prescott because they waited with him. So this is
sort of the same song and dance when it comes
to the Cowboys. They've they've let players play their contracts
out and it's it's wound up costing them in the end.
(32:54):
And you know, it looks like it like that's going
to happen now. I think Dak will be there when
they report the training camp in California at the end
of the month. I think Michaeh Parsons will also be there,
even if he's not completely happened for his negotiation. Is
Ceedee Lamb is the one that I would watch where
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I think there is a possibility that if a contract
doesn't get done that maybe he doesn't show up in
this thing.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Of Alba Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
I just following up on that quickly from people you
talk to around the NFL, why do they wait, Like
why do they handle it the way they do as
opposed to every other team in the league who wants
to get this done ahead of time so they don't
have to run in to have it a pay sdeper price.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Well, they have a great they have a great example
of the benefit of getting it done right there in
their division, getting it done early, right, Like the Eagles
have done an awesome job with that. Like the Eagles
do you look like when they paid DeVante Smith like
your team, like they were paying a premium for him
at the start of the offseason, right, like that deal
all of a sudden looks like wow, like that's not
so bad. You know, Jayalen Waddell got more than he did.
Amon Rossi Bro' got more than he did. And now
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Jefferson change the dynamic of paying receivers in general. And
that was just because the Eagles did not even a
year early. That was a few months earlier than the that,
you know what I mean, Like that was like, let's
do it at the very beginning of the offseason. The
Eagles did the same thing with Jayon Hurts last year
where they got to jump on the rest of the
quarterbacks getting paid. So I've heard a lot of different
(34:24):
stories in this. I mean, I you know, in some
cases just that you're less sure about, you know, whether
or not the players worth the investment. The more cynical,
the more cynical feels. I have heard some people, you know,
I have heard some people feel this way about certain
owners up the Joneses in particular, that that owners want
to keep their their their money and I keep their
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money in their investments and that sort of thing for
the extra few months. So sometimes they won't pay a
player until July or August, or even open series negotiations
until the summer, so they can keep their money in
their own accounts those extra few months. That's a cynical way.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
To look at it.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
But I wouldn't doubt that it exists somewhere in the NFL,
and and maybe it's part of the quays with the
Cowboys too.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Albert.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
We got to ask you because as we sit here
in this what July second, it is now kind of
looking around, what are you doing this time of year?
You know, like what kind of stuff are you falling?
Is this just a break for you? How does it all?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Well? Yeah, yeah, I'm looking off my deck at a
marina right now, So yeah, how did it worked.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Out with the fairy and all that stuff?
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Everything? Everything? Like I said earlier, LeVar, everything worked out fine.
We got we got the we got the car over here.
It only took a day, which it was like quoted
it like three days and now stand by and shut
down all together on the other side, so we're all
good over here. I actually like my biggest problem right
now is getting old man injuries with my with my kids.
I got I got picked up and thrown by a
(35:56):
wave yesterday where I landed on my hip and it
doesn't feel too great right now. May or may not
have slipped off a bike a couple of days ago,
but otherwise.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
You really are a journalist. You really have no athletics.
I'm a warrior.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
I'm a warrior, Brady.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, were you having a couple of cocktails? Is
that what happened?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with getting started a little
early when you're off.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Right fair enough. Yeah, don't it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It sounds beautiful up there, Albert, Can I ask you?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Can I ask you one more football question before the
Ayyuk conversation. I mean, we're it almost seems like they're
letting him know, and they're letting people know that they
really really want Brandon. You have spoken about that on
the show, but it just seems to be that you know,
Ayuk wants the number that's obviously connected to who's next
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in line for getting paid at that position, and so
he wants his numbers to be up there where some
of these other guys where their numbers are. I mean,
how how does this play well?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
LeVar? I just talked about like the difference not even
in years, but in haunts and getting contracts done right
like and I and I do think like that was
why the Eagles, the Dolphins and Alliance were smart to
act as fast as they did with their receivers with
DeVante Smith, Jalen Waddle and I'm and Ross Saint Brown,
and that like that was all intentional that those teams
(37:30):
got those deals done earlier in the offseason. All those
teams were trying to beat the Justice Jefferson deal, right
because I think all those teams knew that once Jefferson
get got done, that the dynamic could change. And you know,
obviously now we know the dynamic has changed. That went
from you know, where they were at those guys Amon,
Ross Saint Brown, Dalen Waddel, DeVante Smith all right there
(37:53):
in the twenty eight million dollar range, right thirty five million.
That's a twenty five percent height. And so you know,
now if you're Ceedee Lamb's agent or your Brandon Auk's agent.
You're not going to do this deal like it's April. Still,
You're going to do this deal like the markets has changed,
you know. So I think these things have become a
(38:13):
little bit more complicated because justin Jefferson's deal did change
the dynamic, but that was all predictable, you know what
I mean. Like, I think that's why that That's why
I think it was smart of the Again, the Dolphins,
the Eagles, and the Lions they acted aggressively as they did,
and the Niners tried they really did, you know, But
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I'm not I'm just speculating on this part. But if
if Brandon and his agent full place a little bit
to see what happened to Jefferson, and that's goods.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Albert Brier joining us here at Fox Sports Radio, Senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB.
So you wrote this week, ab and you can find
it at Albert Breer on Twitter about the new kickoff
rules and just sort of what the plan is is
this really where are the preseason is going to have
some value because this is going to be where they
try all this stuff out and try and figure out
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what they're going to be wanting to do moving forward.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah. Well, I mean the football guys here can give
me a better idea on this, like Levarn and Brady,
But I think the kickoff is probably one of the
more difficult plays in football to simulate in the practice.
Will you guys say that's fair? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably.
I mean, I just I think because of that, like
the preseason games are going to becoming a really important
(39:31):
Petri dish for special teams, coaches, the joint practices too,
and you know, trying to get a handle on what
this is going to look like, because I don't think
anybody really knows right now, so you can't simulate it.
You certainly can't simulate in the spring, even like a
full contact practice in the summer, it's hard to simulate it. So, yeah,
(39:51):
the preseason game is gonna be really important, and there
might be less i'd say switching around to personnel in
those situations. You might see you more you know, regular
guys out there to try to get a better handle
on it. So coaches have an idea how to handle
it when they get to the regular season, and even
then guys, like I know, we've heard a lot of talking.
(40:12):
We've talked about it on the show too. I think
right like about how you could the Dolphins put Tyree
Kill back there? You know what I mean? Could uh,
you know, could could the Chief put Zavier Worthy back there?
Could the could you wind up putting a more important
player back there to return kicks to kick kickoffs are
more important? Now, well, that's possible. But I think, you know,
(40:35):
we're gonna have a period of experimentation, maybe the first
quarter to six weeks the season, where you know, I
think everybody's gonna be still feeling each other out and
feeling out what the play looks like and how dangerous
the play is and what sort of risk you're running
by putting a premier player back there, you know, and
then then then you go from there. So I think
this is gonna be like anything else where you're gonna
(40:56):
have the preseason. Then you're almost gonna have an extended
preseason with that play and particular and I don't think
like they're going to have it all figured out before
I don't know, but somewhere between the middle of October
and the beginning of November and then maybe you start
to see a little bit more risk taking and gambling
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there where you're starting to see more important players back there,
or maybe the place more violent than people think, and
and then you don't see that. I think it's going
to be a matter of figuring it out over the
first few weeks of the season after trying to figure
it out through the preseason.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Albert Breer, Senior, NF A reporter, lead content strategist at
the MMQB. Get him on Twitter or x at Albert Breer.
He is nursing a hip issue from Nantucket.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
But abe, I appreciate I appreciate all the camples you
guys left for me last week too, after I gave
you my thought.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Absolutely we got you some positive thoughts. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
I do appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well, listen, enjoy with the fan. We'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
A B.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
All right, thank you,
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Y'all both got proud the soccer team or no, yeah
them too.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
That was off sides though not that it really mattered,
but still that was off side, right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I don't know who cares. I was thinking the same thing.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You know.
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Everyone's up in arms about it. It's like, I don't know, Well,
I can't have.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You said the ref dont want to shake plastic sand
after the match.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Said something offensive to him.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Well, that's fine. You can still kind of shake afterwards, right,
I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That's called good sportsmanship for certain You know, you don't
want to execute poor sportsmanship, especially as a as a ref.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Yeah, you make it seem like, you know, maybe you're
rooting for Aguay.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
You know, somebody might have had a visit to your
room or was was coming.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
How to pronounce it?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Here we go? Why you say it?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
So? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Thank you? No, you're a guy.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
You're a guy.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
I thought it was Oh wow, that's awful bad. By
the way, our friends listening out there on the iHeartRadio app,
we want to apologize that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
It actually was offensive to someone that.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Bad.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeahang, I feel like there's a lot of ways we
could have taken that.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
I mean, there was a couple of things I was thinking,
and I was like, no, I'm not going to even
say it. No, I was all right.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
So we were off and running here on a Tuesday morning. Obviously,
yesterday was sort of the the tip off a free
agency in the end, in the NBA, we can't say
kickoff because it is the football term, so tip off,
you know, feel feels a little bit more appropriate. But
nonetheless though, well, you know, just depends. And then you
(02:16):
see the Boston Celtics of defending champs just making a
couple of moves. Ho hum, Jason Tatum gets an NBA
record five years, three hundred and fourteen million.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Dollar extension, a couple of coins.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Yeah, you know, just one hundred dollars more than what
Paul George got earlier on Sunday. And then you saw
Derek White get a four year, one hundred and twenty
six million dollar extension, absolutely deserved so you can afford
all the dental work he possibly needs. Oh and then
here yeah, yeah, I mean listen, uh and then you know,
just uh yeah, they're selling the team too.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So there.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Yeah, there's that too. Let's give out these big guys contracts.
I know about a way we're selling this.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Can I add quite possibly the greatest stat on top
of that, their pay next year alone between the five
guys of as starters now is more than what they
paid for for the franchise twenty some years ago.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Talk you about that three hundred and sixty million dollars
they bought it for in two thousand and two.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, I mean, what's it on sale for. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
It's gonna be in the billions.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, it'll be. Uh, they're going to make a nice
chunk of change. And if you were gonna sell it,
why not sell it that? Like right now, like got
another championship. It's a second for the current ownership group
that's there, so they get their title. Now they put
it up for sale, and I just want to, like,
I have a feeling there's going to be a celebrity
(03:41):
or somebody, like there's a lot of celebrity Celtic fans
out there, somebody's like Wohlberg. They gave like one of
those guys like it's going to get their hands on it,
although I don't know if they have wealth.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
I've said this before, they don't and no one does.
I mean outside of maybe what you heard, you know,
a few days ago, where there's you know, thousands of
trillionaires in America, there's not There's not even that many billionaires.
And what's become more common in professional sports in sports
ownership is these these ownership groups that you do have
(04:16):
one majority owner and he's probably gonna put a lot
of money into it, but then you have a big
pool of limited partners and those limited partners are investors,
but not as much money, you know, at least individually
into it.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
But they bring something else to the table.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
So for example, Mark Wahlberg, you know, his personality is notoriety.
Maybe it's you know, Wallburger's everywhere. I don't know what
it is, but.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
You know, they bring something else to the table.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And that's how essentially now these these new ownership groups
in sports are working out. So it's it's not you know,
it's not gonna be one individual necessarily, even though that
one individual will be the majority owner. I do think,
I guess I'll ask you this. Don't you think they
know who it is?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Though?
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Like, don't they don't you think they have it inked up,
because otherwise, how in the world do you've agree to
all these deals and give out all this money and go, yep, no,
this is someone else to deal with, Like someone else
can figure.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
This out right.
Speaker 5 (05:15):
And then maybe there was a conversation they had as
well too, like, hey, you know, it's been a good ride.
We've been doing this over twenty years.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If we win one, we're out.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
And then maybe that's how the conversation started going. And
then somebody had the expectation and said, Okay, well is
this still happening?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
It still is, And here's what we're thinking. Lock Tatum up.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
We've already given Brown the monster contract, Derek White's got
his deal. It's turnkey, ready to go championship team, and
it's yours. And the most recent sale of a team
was three point five billion. That was the Dallas Mavericks
last year.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
So why are people selling their teams? Why did why
did Mark Cuban get out? Is that just the culture?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
They aren't cash flowing businesses, even though people think they are.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
They're they're not as much as people think. And so
I think after.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
A while, I mean, you've got to dump a lot
of money into these things. To make them profitable, and
you gotta win, and so your exit is really when
you make the money, is when you increase the value
of the franchise and the NBA. Those those professional teams
actually trading go for a much more structured model than
other professional franchises. So the first thing to say is
(06:32):
they do it to get some of their money back, man,
because it's expensive though these professional franchises, whether it's dumping
money back into the arenas or you know, different cash
you're paying out for the star players. So you can
be competitive, win championships, but it's to get there, you know.
They's called it equity multiple that that return. But then
they also do it just because they don't.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
I mean, it's it's a lot of time and stress.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I think if you want to be good at it right,
it's like anything else.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
It's not like you just turn on a switch and
the thing goes. It's pretty hard.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
It's pretty hard to be able to do that, and
I think they've done a tremendous job with building up
that organization to have the right structure to be able
to be consistently successful.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
I always thought it was like something you keep in
your family forever, like an Ever, I've.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Said it before, Dude, the estate tax and you passed
it from one generation to the.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Next is huge. It's huge. Wow were you were you
on that last week?
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I said that? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I know one NFL owner he had to go to
Bermuda and live there as a resident for seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Technically that's where he had to live in order to inherit.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
It's not but in order to inherit the team, inherit
it tax free.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
That's where they That's that was how it was set
up for.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Structure seven years.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it sounds like it sounds like it's awesome.
And then you're like, all right, little.
Speaker 5 (07:53):
Well I was thinking this as well too, Like I
used to think, man, that would be so cool to
own an like an NFL team or on a sports team,
And then I just have to come to terms with
I don't want to own one. I just want to
be good friends with somebody that does.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
It's like I don't want to own a boat. I
just want to be able to borrow whatever I want
to do it, Like, I don't want to have to
worry about the day to day operations yet you know
all that stuff, like just like you guys handle that.
But we've put a lot of time in his friends.
Just let me borrow it for an hour or so.
That's all it is. So you know, maybe you know
we could see friends like that, you do, I do?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Like who Well, Danny John Beeson is the first name
that comes He's the reason why I want to get
this boat. Like I love his boat. It's amazing. Oh,
you gonna get a boat one day. One day, Like
when I'm done with all of this, I'll get a
boat because that's probably where I'll be a lot. I
like to fish. I like to catch fish. I like
(08:45):
to process it, and then I like to cook it
right then and there on the boat. Like used to
be my thing. Like twice a year, I'd go out
with my father in law and my kids and we
go fish and I'd have my chef on because you know,
I had a restaurant, and my chef from my restaurant
would be there and we chopped them bad boys up
(09:06):
rock fish right out of the water. That's like my thing.
My ultimate thing is to eat fish the rest of
my way at the end. But for now, I got friends,
you know, Shots out the Mic and Carmen Pace they
got more than one jet. They got a couple some
nice ones too. They got some nice ones. Man might
(09:28):
even be bigger than that. They like got a real
like like they bawling, how much is a nice fishing boat?
I don't. I don't want a fishing boat. I want
a bad ass, bad ass yacht that I fish off. Yeah,
where I had where I have like a fish area,
you know what I mean? Like I wanted I need
to have that fish area where I can get the
(09:49):
guts out of there and chop it up and all
that stuff and just just blow, you know, like wash
it off. Pontoon Like I thought about it. I was
close to get one when I lived in an Apolis,
like a really really hopped up one that you could
just go out all day in, you know, super nice.
Yeah we uh, I told you.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Me and like four other buddies chipped in like five
hundred bucks each and bought a pontoon boat.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
And after two trips it was.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Nicknamed the Floating Coffin because it was a complete disaster.
Somebody like my buddy thought he was doing a good
job putting in the stereo. It was shorting out while
we walk We were on the water, like it was
just not a great idea, and we probably took it
out like three four times and just we realized, this
is a waste of money. It's never gonna happen, so
you'll probably but you can get really, really really nice
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pontoon boats.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
They don't go very fast. No, they don't go You
don't want to go fast. Yeah, it's relaxing. Yeah, I
don't want to go fast. Well, Jimmy Buffett on the
water Yeat Rock, Yeah, okay a little bit. I'm all
in on pontoons, just not like in like big water,
just like little lakes, creeks, stuff like that. You guys
(11:00):
want us to go h going on a pontoon.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
I saw a pontoon boat the other day that was
dressed like a tiki bar.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
See that would be dope I had and everything.
Speaker 7 (11:11):
Oh, it was like it was like a full circle.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
By the way, there's no way whoever owns that boat
is not an alcoholic.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Speaking of what's less, when was the last time I've
been on a boat and stayed in it and stayed
in it and didn't fall off. Speaking of.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
Like a pontoon boat or just a.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
Boat boat, any.
Speaker 8 (11:38):
Boat, uh, you know might not have been this year,
But I go to the lake quite often.
Speaker 7 (11:43):
To what the lake is for? It's a phrase, what
the lake is for?
Speaker 8 (11:50):
Yeah, I was doing seedws on the last time I
went to the lakes A good time.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, I don't know if you took the boat out.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Yeah, I don't think we did.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think we did.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
I think we just did seeds last time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
You guys because it was too muddy or you guys
got Yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:03):
That's right, it was too muy. Yeah, we can get
the back.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Why do you be knowing so much about people's personally,
because I listen when people tell me stuff, so I know,
I just remember little details. And Lee was telling me
a story. We have no life with that too.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
But Lee was telling me a story on the way
back from it was either Ireland or it was South Carolina,
and he was telling me how he had a trip
planned with his buddies. They were going to the lake
and they were going to get together. And I asked
him about it and he said it didn't go as
smoothly because it got muddy everywhere because they had rained recently.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
Yeah, we had to hike out of it. We had
to hike out so because it was so muddy. Yeah,
that was bad hike out of what out of the
camping site? I mean, we couldn't even take the car
all the way to the camping site. We have a
my buddy has a camping grounds on the lake, like
lake lake front and.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
See I've been there. You've been there.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
It's like a wine or something. Really explain this again too,
by the way, you.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Said your buddy has a camping ground, like he's a
spot he goes to.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (13:01):
Well, it's a family plot and they have like a
bunch of trailers that are front side of the lake,
like each each part of the family has their own. Yeah,
some shanties. It's a shanty town. They're actually very luxurious
trailers right on the lake.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
Is this the story.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Stoking too smoking?
Speaker 8 (13:25):
No, anyway, there's a big hill that you have to
go up and down over the hill to the lakeside.
Speaker 7 (13:32):
Yes, that is correct, And it was very mundy.
Speaker 8 (13:35):
It was it rained, and we we were smart to
not take the car all the way over the hill
because we would not have been able to get out
of there. We had to hike out because there was
rain and uh yeah, alright, then there you go. That's
that's the story.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Of that.
Speaker 5 (13:55):
And by the way, that was the trip that I
think you took the rest of the teeling whiskey with
you too.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
That is oh I remember these details. Yeah, from Ireland.
He brought it back as a gift.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I didn't think he had any left.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You help filled.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
I killed one bottle, but they had another.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I see why so many people like you though you
know all their business that they tell you.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
No.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
I just he's the perfect friend.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
If you black out around him, you love blacking out exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
Again. You know what, you know what happened last night? Man?
Why blackout when you can black back?
Speaker 2 (14:40):
He's so stupid.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
That's those stupid you guys got problems man.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
All right, So there's your your recap of NBA Free agency.
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Speaker 5 (15:35):
Here's a shout out for you. Shout it out. It
a shout out to Travis Kelsey. Yeah, he was recently
talking on the New Heights podcast.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Yeah, how he.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Goes on stage and how he's been kind of just
doing the same things that that is. What's her name?
He Swift? Yeah, Taylor Swifted to him dring football season. Yeah,
basically he's just popping up on stage now may as
well flopping her down on couch, picking her back up,
flopping her back down on the couch in the middle
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of the show.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Well, listen, he's he's all over the place. And he
was on his podcast, the New Heights Podcast with his
brother Jason.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
You're fool dude, and.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
God, what what happened?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
I know it's a link.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
At one point in the Lincoln says all butts from game,
and it says on one of the captions, Denarious Targarian,
mother of dragons, mother of butts, stupid?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Why did it do win? Though?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
Damn I'm getting out of this.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Him.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
But Lee you you can. You showed taste one of
the many that should be ranked ahead of Jonasis.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
No One showcase. That's that's the one. Yeah, that's it's Lisa. Yeah,
all right, So let's talk about the same person, bro.
Speaker 5 (17:17):
That is indeed it is uh Travis Kelsey talking with
his brother Jason Kelsey podcast.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
It is not.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Yeah, I can't confirm. All right, So let's listen to
Travis Kelsey talking about the potential of a team going
to London. Because somebody here on this show has got
a piping hot conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (17:41):
Would you play for a team in London? Yes, yes,
I'm questionably.
Speaker 11 (17:46):
I'm actually I'm waiting for that team to play for
another team other than Chiefs, Like that's the only situation
is if I get to.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Play abroad by your home team be abroad. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
How long do you think it would be before there's
an NFL team in London ten years, you think within
the decade.
Speaker 11 (18:02):
I don't know for a fact it's going to be London,
but I think the teams.
Speaker 10 (18:06):
I think if there's an NFL team, the first city
it's coming to is London.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
I'll go on record for that.
Speaker 11 (18:12):
I mean it's where we've been playing for the most overseas.
Speaker 10 (18:15):
Yeah, there's almost amount of fans here. There's the biggest
appetite in London. It's a major market. The only other
cities that it would also be in would be, like,
I know, Germany has a lot of NFL fans. Should
probably be a German team, I'd assume in Munich or Berlin,
but I think London's getting the first one if it
ever happens.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
So, I mean they've gotten the most games, right, They've
that's been the most. Wimberley has been the most most
consistent places or place where the games. What is Wemby
or Wimberley Wembley, No, Wimbley Wembley. They've gotten the most games, right,
It's almost like Jacksonville's home field, but not their home field. Yeah, yeah,
(18:56):
I mean it seems like a spot.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
Well, so my understanding of how that would make the
most sense is.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Logistically well, this kind of a little too early, not
really getting into that part of it.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Can keep let's say, live studio band and just turn.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Off.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Thanks.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
My understanding of how it would make sense to have
a team is in London is to not have a
team in London is to have four teams in that
general vicinity. So you would you would pick out London,
you'd pick out Germany'd pick out maybe Dublin, Ireland, whatever
other international cities you're looking at over there, and it
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would be easiest between the divisional games they play with
their other three teams in their division and then flying
to the East Coast, which will be essentially the equivalent
of West Coast teams flying to the East coast of
the United States. You would essentially be you know, kind
of playing those sorts of schedules, and you know, every
once in a while you'd be having a West Coast
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team called the World across or one of those international
teams come all the way across. But that is how
it was proposed a while back in regards to how
it would work from a scheduling standpoint, So you don't
have one team facing this burden of all this travel
kind of similar to like the Seattle Seahawks, who on
average typically travel more than most teams in the NFL.
(20:30):
But that was not the Really the conspiracy theory. The
conspiracy theory is it's more about Travis Kelce. The thought
to this is, and I'm not into this whole conspiracy
theory things, but there's a lot of things that have
been adding up here. Okay, I don't know if it's him,
I don't know if it's everyone around him. Let's just
(20:52):
kind of dive through everything, all right, and go down
this rabble because it's that time of year. So of course,
go back to COVID the player, a singular player who
gets the big Pfizer deal telling everyone to take the vaccine.
It could have been anyone in the NFL, any player.
(21:12):
Instead it goes to Travis Kelsey. He is the messenger.
He is the man who's going out for everyone to
go get their COVID shot. I don't care how you feel,
whether you're for it against it, whatever data you ascertained
before or after and all that, it doesn't matter. I'm
just saying he was the guy that was selected. Also,
and lead a lap can back me up on this,
(21:33):
because we've talked about Travis Kelcey's dating history Taylor Swift
just it seemed like it kind of came out of
left field, right, Yes, And you've now got this relationship
that has helped you prop up the NFL. It has
literally brought an entirely different demographic that never watched NFL
games before. Who are t Swift fans? And now they
(21:55):
are a part of the conversation. And yet he was
the player to be prayed around and all that, and
it looks like it's legitimate, looks like it's a real relationship,
just saying. And so now he's the player that messages
to everyone else like, oh yeah, I'd go play for
an international team.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I'd go over there hard. That's the one team I'm
waiting for.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
It just feels like he's the guy that's extremely likable.
He's a first ballot Hall of Famer, and there's something there.
I mean, look, I'm with him too though when I
was playing, like, I would have loved to have gone
and played for international team. It'd be kind of awesome
to go through that experience. But there's also an element
of just there's something else going on here. He seems
(22:42):
to be the conduit the guy that the NFL likes
to use to get messaging out in some fashion or
for him.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
I buy it. I buy it, But I mean, how
big is how big of a deal? I guess I
would be wondering how big of a deal is it
to figure out, you know, how the fans feel about
there being the team in Europe.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Let me ask you, Let me ask you, just to
play Devil's advocate? Why him? Like why why was he chosen.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
To be Taylor swift Man? Well, like just to have
all of this like why him? Like why was it?
Travis Kelcey? Was it? You know?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Quarterback is too They already have all the attention and
do all that, So let's pick another position player.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Somebody will to.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
Ask you this, how many tight ends do you disdain? Like?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
How many tight ends can you think of that are unlikable?
In fact, I would I would actually go on to
say that for the most part, tight ends are like
the most likable players in the team.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh yeah, they do everything.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
They block for you, run blocking for the running backs
or pass blocking for the quarterbacks, wide receivers. They're also
run routes for you. They're there when you're under duress.
When did you get a hot route right breaks off
his route breaks off hot.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Where you're able to hit him there. They're good leaders.
They're the one position group outside of that's it.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
The edge rushers too, but tight ends are able to
get together and go through the tight end you and
everything else that's come about from all of that. But
they're asked to do a little bit of everything. They're
usually a key player on special teams or playing some
role on special teams, just Sam Man.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
They're kind of one of the more likable positions.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
And if you think about some of the stars of
the NFL, about Gronk, think about Travis Kelceronk is a
big guys like George, I mean, David and Joke.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
You're like, like, what tight end do you not like?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
But now you look at.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
It, that guy, that guy's kind of a jerk, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I think Gronk is a very Gronk is like the
football version of Shaq. Yeah, Like he's like a celebrity,
Like like he's Gronk.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
Do you think do you think they wanted to uh,
they wanted it to be Gronk And just halfway through
the interview, processor like I had this guy just there's
no way he'll be able to keep a straight face
through all this.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Well maybe it was Timmy Swift that was like, yeah,
I can't do.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
That, like that could this could go back? Said this guy?
What about Lamar Jackson?
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I mean, why not what I'm saying, like, why did
it have to be Travis Kelcey?
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Why not go with somebody who's like, you know, especially
with the co or like somebody who's got like you
know that has shown the ability to be immune to
things like why not Deshaun.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Wats Like why not him?
Speaker 5 (25:27):
You know, squeaky clean reputation all right, seemingly uh you know,
figures out a way to go through all that still
get a record contract? Like how far down the list
would you go before Deshaun Watson would be the I.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Mean, he'd be right there at the top for me.
So yeah, man, I'm in agreeance with you. Yeah, I
mean talk about a bounce back type of deal, you know,
being able to to get through all of the germs.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Maybe there was a question if you could rise to
the occasion, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
How do you rise to the occasion over and over again?
And I just you know, I think there's something to
be said about Yeah, I agree. Yeah, man, that's a
good point. I don't know though, I'm just trying to
figure it out. Does it have to be Taylor Swift?
Taylor Swift, We've seemed to be the perfect storm of
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all of this in terms of who you end up dating.
That that kind of opens everything up to a different,
different group of fans. Right, So she's.
Speaker 4 (26:27):
Global, I mean that's the thing is she.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Is literally global.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Yeah, so if you were going to go after one
person who again, outside of apparently the jet fuel and
the carbon emissions, she's pretty much bulletproof herself.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
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Speaker 5 (26:52):
Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB.
You can get them on Twitter or x at Albert
Breer ab. Happy fourth of July week?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
How are you, hey? Guys? What's happening?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
He First of all, did you figure out the situation
and then Nantucket to get your car over?
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Did that go?
Speaker 8 (27:09):
I did?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I would just say I showed up at four am
on Friday, since the standby has been shut down completely,
so you can't drive your car on anymore without a reservation.
So we would have been screwed about twenty four hours later.
And I just put it this way, being nice to
people who who are working in these situations is the
(27:34):
best way to get things done. That's that's what I
would say. Just be nice to people, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
Did you have to bribe anybody or kick college?
Speaker 6 (27:43):
No, no bribery, I just I mean I just sort
of befriended a couple people at the at the ferry
Port and they were very, very nice, and I'm sure
they've been treated like crap, you know, all week, and
so it all worked out for me. Like I said,
treat people well and they'll take Harry all right.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
That's a good adage, a good rule to live by.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Albert, I want to ask you because you're the one
that tipped us off to uh maybe an Egyptian vacation.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
From Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
He's so tired.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
Then Marquez Valdez brings it out and uh he happens
to blurt it out. I guess that that's where he went.
So now that we have confirmation from sitting outside.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
About by the way, I want to make sure I'm
right about like because I did obviously I know it's
out there now, but like, was it mvs?
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Was he?
Speaker 6 (28:28):
That was that the first it? Like he just blurted
it out on the on the herd, right, correct, That's great,
that's great that that's how it came out.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Anyway, you you being a member of the media, and
given I guess the requirements being in the media, you're
gonna have to be critical of this. How will this
be viewed in the short term and and give us
your take on how this is going to be viewed
in the long term or none of it mattered in
the long term.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
I think it's short term. I like, honestly, like if
we're talking short term, like the next couple of I think,
you know, it's going to be quickly forgotten it and
not talked about a whole lot. And then you know,
I think when he shows up the training camp and
he speaks for the first time, he'll have to address it.
And then if something goes wrong, like then people are
(29:18):
willing to point back to it. Whether that's fair or not.
You know, I think that's part of the price of
doing it like this way, and having that trip during
the mandatory mini camp is that you know, when you
miss something mandatory and look like it's not totally buried
there because Aaron was there for the entire offseason program
and you know, there are other quarterbacks who missed more
(29:39):
of their team's offseason programs than Aaron did. However, the
fact that he missed the mandatory thing that he knew
that it would be a big deal if he did,
and he did it anyway, it's gonna, like I think,
going forward, have this is something that's just sort of
lingering out there. And so you know, if they have
a great camp and they and they start five and zero,
(30:01):
like this is all forgotten. If they have bumps early
in camp or the offense doesn't look right and then
they start owing too, then everybody's going to point back
to it, and everybody's gonna say, oh, well, he's not
really locked in. And again, whether that's fair or not,
like I think that's sort of the price of it,
and being in New York only magnifies that, Like this
is this is where I think there is an actual
(30:22):
difference between being in Green Bay and being in New York.
Like I don't look at the coverage is that different.
The Packers are intensely covered in the state of Wisconsin,
and you know, every media outlet in Wisconsin is is
focused very very very singularly on the Packers, you know.
So it's not like the Jets. It's not the Jets
are covered all that much more intensely. But when it
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comes to stuff like this that I think is where
the difference is. So I think something like this could
you know, just kind of linger in the background and
then if something goes wrong, people will point back to it.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Where does the Bland get point at in Dallas if
their season doesn't go well? Obviously they're they're you know,
ceedee lamb has not reported or it doesn't seem to
be on on the cusp of reporting that there's there's other,
uh contract issues out there. Do you think they get
a contract done with any of these guys? Albert and
(31:18):
and they're so like, what where where does the Blane go?
Does it go to coach, quarterback or ownership or all
of these?
Speaker 6 (31:25):
Yeah, I think part of the prompt is like the
Blaine probably goes to the person you can't fire, right like, So,
I mean, like I do think a lot, a lot
of the stuff that's out there right now. This stuff
is going to be an issue for them when they
get to training camp. Whether it's Mike McCarthy's contract, it's uh,
you know, Zach Prescott's contract, to see Lamb's contract, it's
(31:47):
Michael Parsons contract. That all inspect to ownership. And this
is the thing, like when the ownership is making football
decisions that they're going one place at the point when
it comes to things like this. And so it's hard
to Mike McCarthy for the fact that the three best
players on the team are employed in contract situations, you know.
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And then obviously Mike McCarthy's contract situation is up to ownerships.
So you know, I think all of this points back
to the Jones family, and you know, I'll give Jerry
and Stephen, you know, and then credit for this, like
they've never been afraid to wear a target on their
back when it comes to stuff like this. But we
have been down this road with them before, you know,
and you know, you look back. They had to pay
(32:31):
more for Zach Martin because they waited to do a
contract with them. They had to pay more for DeMarcus
Lawrence because they waited to do a contract with them.
They did pay more of the first time around for
Dak Prescott because they waited with him. So this is
sort of the same song and dance when it comes
to the Cowboys. They've they've let players play their contracts
out and it's it's wound up costing them in the end.
(32:54):
And you know, it looks like it like that's going
to happen now. I think Dak will be there when
they report the training camp in California at the end
of the month. I think Michaeh Parsons will also be there,
even if he's not completely happened for his negotiation. Is
Ceedee Lamb is the one that I would watch where
(33:14):
I think there is a possibility that if a contract
doesn't get done that maybe he doesn't show up in
this thing.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Of Alba Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
I just following up on that quickly from people you
talk to around the NFL, why do they wait, Like
why do they handle it the way they do as
opposed to every other team in the league who wants
to get this done ahead of time so they don't
have to run in to have it a pay sdeper price.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
Well, they have a great they have a great example
of the benefit of getting it done right there in
their division, getting it done early, right, Like the Eagles
have done an awesome job with that. Like the Eagles
do you look like when they paid DeVante Smith like
your team, like they were paying a premium for him
at the start of the offseason, right, like that deal
all of a sudden looks like wow, like that's not
so bad. You know, Jayalen Waddell got more than he did.
Amon Rossi Bro' got more than he did. And now
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Jefferson change the dynamic of paying receivers in general. And
that was just because the Eagles did not even a
year early. That was a few months earlier than the that,
you know what I mean, Like that was like, let's
do it at the very beginning of the offseason. The
Eagles did the same thing with Jayon Hurts last year
where they got to jump on the rest of the
quarterbacks getting paid. So I've heard a lot of different
(34:24):
stories in this. I mean, I you know, in some
cases just that you're less sure about, you know, whether
or not the players worth the investment. The more cynical,
the more cynical feels. I have heard some people, you know,
I have heard some people feel this way about certain
owners up the Joneses in particular, that that owners want
to keep their their their money and I keep their
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money in their investments and that sort of thing for
the extra few months. So sometimes they won't pay a
player until July or August, or even open series negotiations
until the summer, so they can keep their money in
their own accounts those extra few months. That's a cynical way.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
To look at it.
Speaker 6 (35:03):
But I wouldn't doubt that it exists somewhere in the NFL,
and and maybe it's part of the quays with the
Cowboys too.
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Albert.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
We got to ask you because as we sit here
in this what July second, it is now kind of
looking around, what are you doing this time of year?
You know, like what kind of stuff are you falling?
Is this just a break for you? How does it all?
Speaker 6 (35:23):
Well? Yeah, yeah, I'm looking off my deck at a
marina right now, So yeah, how did it worked.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Out with the fairy and all that stuff?
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Everything? Everything? Like I said earlier, LeVar, everything worked out fine.
We got we got the we got the car over here.
It only took a day, which it was like quoted
it like three days and now stand by and shut
down all together on the other side, so we're all
good over here. I actually like my biggest problem right
now is getting old man injuries with my with my kids.
I got I got picked up and thrown by a
(35:56):
wave yesterday where I landed on my hip and it
doesn't feel too great right now. May or may not
have slipped off a bike a couple of days ago,
but otherwise.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
You really are a journalist. You really have no athletics.
I'm a warrior.
Speaker 6 (36:13):
I'm a warrior, Brady.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
I mean, were you having a couple of cocktails? Is
that what happened?
Speaker 6 (36:20):
I mean, there's nothing wrong with getting started a little
early when you're off.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Right fair enough. Yeah, don't it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (36:28):
It sounds beautiful up there, Albert, Can I ask you?
Speaker 2 (36:31):
Can I ask you one more football question before the
Ayyuk conversation. I mean, we're it almost seems like they're
letting him know, and they're letting people know that they
really really want Brandon. You have spoken about that on
the show, but it just seems to be that you know,
Ayuk wants the number that's obviously connected to who's next
(36:55):
in line for getting paid at that position, and so
he wants his numbers to be up there where some
of these other guys where their numbers are. I mean,
how how does this play well?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
LeVar? I just talked about like the difference not even
in years, but in haunts and getting contracts done right
like and I and I do think like that was
why the Eagles, the Dolphins and Alliance were smart to
act as fast as they did with their receivers with
DeVante Smith, Jalen Waddle and I'm and Ross Saint Brown,
and that like that was all intentional that those teams
(37:30):
got those deals done earlier in the offseason. All those
teams were trying to beat the Justice Jefferson deal, right
because I think all those teams knew that once Jefferson
get got done, that the dynamic could change. And you know,
obviously now we know the dynamic has changed. That went
from you know, where they were at those guys Amon,
Ross Saint Brown, Dalen Waddel, DeVante Smith all right there
(37:53):
in the twenty eight million dollar range, right thirty five million.
That's a twenty five percent height. And so you know,
now if you're Ceedee Lamb's agent or your Brandon Auk's agent.
You're not going to do this deal like it's April. Still,
You're going to do this deal like the markets has changed,
you know. So I think these things have become a
(38:13):
little bit more complicated because justin Jefferson's deal did change
the dynamic, but that was all predictable, you know what
I mean. Like, I think that's why that That's why
I think it was smart of the Again, the Dolphins,
the Eagles, and the Lions they acted aggressively as they did,
and the Niners tried they really did, you know, But
(38:35):
I'm not I'm just speculating on this part. But if
if Brandon and his agent full place a little bit
to see what happened to Jefferson, and that's goods.
Speaker 5 (38:44):
Albert Brier joining us here at Fox Sports Radio, Senior
NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the m m QB.
So you wrote this week, ab and you can find
it at Albert Breer on Twitter about the new kickoff
rules and just sort of what the plan is is
this really where are the preseason is going to have
some value because this is going to be where they
try all this stuff out and try and figure out
(39:06):
what they're going to be wanting to do moving forward.
Speaker 6 (39:08):
Yeah. Well, I mean the football guys here can give
me a better idea on this, like Levarn and Brady,
But I think the kickoff is probably one of the
more difficult plays in football to simulate in the practice.
Will you guys say that's fair? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's probably.
I mean, I just I think because of that, like
the preseason games are going to becoming a really important
(39:31):
Petri dish for special teams, coaches, the joint practices too,
and you know, trying to get a handle on what
this is going to look like, because I don't think
anybody really knows right now, so you can't simulate it.
You certainly can't simulate in the spring, even like a
full contact practice in the summer, it's hard to simulate it. So, yeah,
(39:51):
the preseason game is gonna be really important, and there
might be less i'd say switching around to personnel in
those situations. You might see you more you know, regular
guys out there to try to get a better handle
on it. So coaches have an idea how to handle
it when they get to the regular season, and even
then guys, like I know, we've heard a lot of talking.
(40:12):
We've talked about it on the show too. I think
right like about how you could the Dolphins put Tyree
Kill back there? You know what I mean? Could uh,
you know, could could the Chief put Zavier Worthy back there?
Could the could you wind up putting a more important
player back there to return kicks to kick kickoffs are
more important? Now, well, that's possible. But I think, you know,
(40:35):
we're gonna have a period of experimentation, maybe the first
quarter to six weeks the season, where you know, I
think everybody's gonna be still feeling each other out and
feeling out what the play looks like and how dangerous
the play is and what sort of risk you're running
by putting a premier player back there, you know, and
then then then you go from there. So I think
this is gonna be like anything else where you're gonna
(40:56):
have the preseason. Then you're almost gonna have an extended
preseason with that play and particular and I don't think
like they're going to have it all figured out before
I don't know, but somewhere between the middle of October
and the beginning of November and then maybe you start
to see a little bit more risk taking and gambling
(41:16):
there where you're starting to see more important players back there,
or maybe the place more violent than people think, and
and then you don't see that. I think it's going
to be a matter of figuring it out over the
first few weeks of the season after trying to figure
it out through the preseason.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Albert Breer, Senior, NF A reporter, lead content strategist at
the MMQB. Get him on Twitter or x at Albert Breer.
He is nursing a hip issue from Nantucket.
Speaker 6 (41:43):
But abe, I appreciate I appreciate all the camples you
guys left for me last week too, after I gave
you my thought.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Absolutely we got you some positive thoughts. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 6 (41:54):
I do appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Well, listen, enjoy with the fan. We'll do it again
next week.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
A B.
Speaker 6 (41:59):
All right, thank you,
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