July 3, 2024 • 59 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Lakers introduce Bronny who is already leaning into the narrative “him against the world.” Tom Brady regret not having more fun during his time in the league. And the Old P, Petros Papadakis weighs in on the Lakers drafting Bronny James.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As, Rady Winn and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here? You guys ready
to go for the fourth of July?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
L one.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
They move quick when they think it's going to rain
at Wimbledon, don't they?
Speaker 5 (00:21):
Yes, they yes, they'd be moving to get them tarts out.
Athletes man athletes with those tarts.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I mean, that's the highlight for certain by guys, good morning.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
The low light is no, bet Jesus.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well maybe I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
You guys gotta know how to treat them.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, you just don't know how to treat them.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You gotta know how to treat him. You know, he
comes out here, he's just once to treated fairlight.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Bet Jesus, you can't water sucks waters. You can't bully
the guy and expect him to show up. Oh my god,
act accordingly that damn Well, he ain't got it, got it?
Not the way he gambles.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But yeah, the the Wimbledon, what is it to call
the center court? Whatever?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I got my kids doing that best now they heard
doing this on the show.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Dank Damn.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't know why I do it?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Do it at home?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It's kind of funny. Like everything something something happens, It's like, dang.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think I heard you doing We just started all
doing it. It's so dumb, so stupid. My kids hit
me when yesterday I was like, wait, hold on, you're
supposed to be sleep. How do not have it?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Damn dank.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
The who cares about wibbled We're gonna be honest, I mean,
who really gives a rip? Now, By the way, let
me just ask you a fun question to get things started.
Would you guys watch Wimbledon if he knew every one
of those players was on the gas?
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Would you want you're upset with a gash like it?
I'd watch it to still watch it. I mean, honestly,
how do you know they're not?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that's very true. All right, well I'll just pretend
they are. That's very true. I would.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I would watch if Wimbleton was full contact tennis.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's what I would watch.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know, if at any point in time, like like
in hockey, you know, like a moment in time, like
something happens, there's a bad call by the judge and
then you go pull the judge out of their seat,
and then you just start, you know, going at it,
you know, yea fighting.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Giveing a spinebuster right off that chair, suplex, Is that
like a lifeguard chair? That there is like a lifeguard chair, right?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I feel like if it was some type of fool
contact that took place, like go at it with your
your your racket or something like that, I would watch.
Ye I certainly, like there's always one in every sport.
If you had that one dude or that one lady
that was like, you know what, they're valient, I'm watching
that one. That's the match I'm watching right there.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
For sure, there's going to be a fisticuffs in this one.
This match here. I know it's supposed to be gentlemanly
and womanly and all that stuff, but I would want
to see some heathenism take place and and and some fighting.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Great call, thank you, Yeah, I mean this, And that's
what made John McEnroe great.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I mean maybe something some highest maybe yeah, that helped too.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I agree, allright, Well listen I'm stopping there though. Yeah. Yeah,
from center court to the NBA court. Oh no, where
that there, man, oh man. Second round picks are getting
introduced in the NBA. All of a sudden, and that
second round pick is Bronnie James, pick number fifty five,
(03:50):
but got the full treatment yesterday along with Dalton Connect
from the Los Angeles Slakers, and uh, here's a little
Bronnie James while being in introduced to the media talking
about the pressure he feels going into this upcoming season.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
For sure, the amplified amount of pressure. I've already seen
it stuff media and stuff on it and the internet
and stuff talking about I might not deserve an opportunity,
but you know, I've been dealing with stuff like this
for my whole life. So it's it's it's nothing different,
but it's it's it's more amplified for sure.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
But I can get through it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So because it's true you've been dealing with for your
entire life. Because it's true.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
People keep sitting it. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let's see, let's let's think about this.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Why are they saying it everybody for your entire life?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
So one of it looks like a duck if it
walks like a duck.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's what they say. So according to uh Woj in
ESPN and those guys, they're saying that the Lakers and
Browny's representative Rich All of Clutch Sports. They've discussed a
multi year contract that would assure him one of LA's
fifteen full fledged roster spots, sources told ESPN.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Assured, Yeah, but I've been hearing this all my life.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, don't worry about it. You know what, you
know what's great about the Lakers. He's not top fifty
four in the draft, but he's top fifty on our team.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Damn Okay.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Well, you'd almost wonder if there's not going to be
a grievance that's going to be filed at some point
with a player who doesn't make the roster.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I feel like that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
You almost wonder if we're really being serious about this,
If you're a player who's on that roster, you've got
prior NBA experience, and you're cut, you're released, you don't
make it because he does. There's an element of like, well,
how's he able to sign a contract that you know
automatically puts him on the team. I guess that's kind
(06:01):
of how contracts work, But it feels like there's something
else going on here. It's a little more fishy, and
I guess at the end of the day, any NBA
team can do whatever they want. They can make the
poorest decision or the best decision. However we want to
talk about it on the outside, and that's their own prerogative.
But I do feel like for some of those players,
(06:23):
they've got to be frustrated because it has a lot
more to do with lebron than it does which, by
the way, has he signed his extension yet?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So no he s wonder why wonder if maybe you
can hold that over the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Head until he gets Yeah, it was the whole thing.
It's just such a clown.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, there's the conversation man Plex had it on Saturday.
I guess they haven't Yeah, stretch, why why why haven't
they announced if he's playing in summer League or not?
And I don't know if that's that's a good point,
but they they have made it a point to like
is he going to play summer League? Like, well, why
(07:02):
wouldn't he play summer league? Why is this even a
debate or a conversation. But there's actually the conversation that
Bronnie James might not play in the summer League, which
to me, if that if you want to talk about
keeping things under wraps, like trying to keep the truth
from from the people. Why would you not have him
play in the summer league if you want to create
(07:24):
some justification on the pick letting ball out in the
summer league.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I would be shocked if he's not playing in the
Summer League.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean, it would be the first time ever I
believe in the history of the NBA Summer League that
a draft pick didn't play in the summer League.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
If he doesn't play, is that an admission that they're
hiding in Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Jeez, don't you think you can't. You can't hide players
in summer league. That's for them. That league is for them.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's gonna skip the line.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, we're just not gonna play like this one time.
We just going like, Nah, he don't need it, Bronnie,
don't need it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I just I almost wish that we get to the
point to where he's playing, and I'm more I find
myself rooting for him more and more because it if
he looks so bad, I'm gonna feel terrible for him,
because there's no way, like as much as he's been
giving advantages and all this stuff, like, deep down, he's
(08:20):
got to know like, man, if I get exposed like this,
there's no turning back, like the whole thing. I mean,
but he can't control that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You're putting him out there with professional ball play, can't
control that. We've seen his body of work. Heyway, why
you can say the Kig has talent and can play.
There's a lot of guys out there that have talent
that can play that don't play at the professional level.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And there's a reason why, right, I mean, it just
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
He can't control what's going to happen from what I
can gather the information that I've seen talking about that
they're gonna they're gonna, uh nationally televise every single game
that Brownie plays in. You think you think, don't you
want to see it?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Is he gonna play? Is? The question is, yeah, And
I got.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A funny feeling. I got a funny feeling he's gonna
get a couple of minutes. You know, I don't know why, Like,
I think that's that's probably gonna go.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I would think if I was in, though, would you
want to earn it for yourself?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Would you Wouldn't that be the fastest way where you
kind of call off your dad? Or your pops if
he's calling the shots or whoever, and say, no, I
want to play in summer league. I want to showcase
what I can do. You know, I want to prove
to people I'm able when I'm capable of playing this league.
And that's I think the tough part is even even
(09:49):
going through the the draft, picks, selection, everything else, there's
elements of it. I wonder what the internal conversation would
be because there's there comes a certain point where you know,
maybe Dad always knows what's best, but the child might
be saying like no, like let me earn my own path,
Like if I don't get drafted, I don't get drafted, then
I could stile with L A l A Pops.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know, That's how I looked at it, and that
that was where that's that's perfectly put because that's that's
the perspective I was coming from the entire time. And
that's why I said, why he's not as short a
drafts or a roster spot if he gets free agent
picked up so by by drafting him. I guess that's
(10:32):
kind of the conversation that has has come about since
the draft, because to me, I don't think anybody has
an issue if it happens that way. If he does,
if he goes undrafted and and the Lakers pick him
up make the team, nobody has a problem with that. Nobody,
Like some people will have criticisms, Oh, he only made
(10:53):
the team because so what at that point?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So well, it's like a walk on it who gets
rewarded a scholarship. Everybody's happy for Okay, but you drafted him.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hey, you got Chris Paul saying don't take him because
he's going to go to Australia if you drafted Like why.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Rich that analogy? Though, let's go back to that analogy.
A walk on has earned it. A walk on has
in order to earn a scholarship. It's not just given
because they practice hard. A walk on in special teams
on offense or defense has proven in a live game scenario.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
They've already proven it. They've earned their stripes for a
year or two.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Maybe three, they've earned it.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
They've already proven it, and then they get that scholarship.
That's the difference. Like this isn't like, hey, he's an
undrafted guy. He finds his way on the ross, drafted
playing great in the summer league, and everything else for
the season and then plays a few minutes enough well
enough to actually make the team for the following season.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That's not how this is working out.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
This is like that escalator walking as it takes you
right to your gate to take off in the planet.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Sweet which, by the way, JJ Reddick got the same treatment.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Well, I was wondering if that guy who's at the
JJ Reddick press conference, Oh, I love this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I love I mean, you know, I was going to say,
because you guys got a lot of balls. Man coming
in here questioning whether or not Bronnie James has earned
it when JJ Reddick will clearly tell you here how
he earned this spot.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Losing rob and I did not give Bronnie anything. Bronnie
has earned this. Bronnie talks about his hard work. Bronnie
has earned this through hard work, and for us prioritizing
player development, we view Bronnie as like case study one
because his base level of feel, athleticism, point of attack, defender, shooting, passing,
(12:51):
there's a lot to like about his game, and as
we sort of build out our player development program holistically,
he's going to have a great opportunit to become an
excellent NBA player.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's not untrue.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Well, hold on for secs. Here's what I keep going
back to. He's six one and a half. Yeah, for
a good like I'm not saying you can't be a
good defender of six one and a half. It's really
hard to be a good defender though, when you're one
of the shortest players in the league.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Who is the garden, Well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I mean how many put it this.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Way, like, how many point guards, how many shooting guards
are his height or below?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's not that many.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
That's one of the.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Toughest things about basketball. Where I remember when I was
in high school, I was like six four. I played
some AU stuff. But you looked around, You're like, he's
six y four is not that's all You look at
the NBA guys like, you've got guys.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Who are six six, six ' eight. It's a huge,
huge advantage. There's really not much you can do about it.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
And so whatever he's displayed as a defender in the
one year at Southern col is one thing. Drills and
all that, that's that's one thing. But at six one
and a half, that's it's gonna be difficult for him
to match up I'm about six ' four. You know
what I do it to someone who's sixty one six
one and a half. I take him in the post, isolated,
put him down on the post. I've got enough height
(14:19):
and advantage that, like, you'll be able to get to
the rim, you'll be able to get an easy bucket
that way. I mean, I imagine his mismatch on playing
against if they do a pick and roll, if they switch,
can't switch, You're gonna put him on a six foot
ten guy, huge disadvantage.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
So like, that's some of the other things.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
And I'm not saying that there's not you know, guys
around his height in the league who make it happen.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But usually guys who are six foot one, six foot
one and a half.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
They have extraordinary talents somewhere else. Yes, lights out, knockdown shooter.
Has Brownie been that? Not even close?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That's the key key.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Does he even shoot forty percent from the field?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, does he shoot enough to get any type of
forty from the field. I mean, if it was forty
percent from it would probably be like out of like
three four shots. I mean an AA shoot much to
get a high percentage. You got guys like Mike Conley.
He's six foot but he moves like a flea, Like
he's quick and he can't And look.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
At Mike Conley's resume coming out of.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I mean, he's one of the top guys coming out.
He's a top guy. You got Jayleen Brunson, he's six two,
You got you got guys who are around that hike.
But listen to the names I'm telling you, like Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Like, OK, you wanted if you wanted to find a
second rounder Isaiah Thomas, not you know, the original Isaiah Thomas.
But Isaiah Thomas was drafted by Saco Belto. I think
he was I think he was the last pick of
this of the NBA draft, and he came out and
had a really good career. He was an undersized guy,
(15:48):
but he could score, like at his sight, he figured
out a way. And to go back to the resume point,
he was unbelievable in college, like there was you know, just.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Didn't Mike Conley win?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
He only played one year's a one and done and
then they win a national championship.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I went to the Final I think or the Final
War with Greg Odin.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
With Greg Oden.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Yeah, like here's the fourth overall pick, Jaylen BRUNSONI did
they win win a Villadova.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, yes they did.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
It's like you're talking about dudes who are coming off
of it. I mean, Southern Cow was as bad as
it could be last year in.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Basketball, and Isaiah Thomas, he put on a show at
the Pac ten tournament or Pack twelve tournament back then.
So like he, like you, there was a.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Body of work, pay packed something.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
It's just a pack.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just know that, just pac. I just know this.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
His heart work, his feel for the game, all those
things that red exit. It's not it's not inaccurate, it's
it's not a lie. It's just that by saying that
his heart work and his feel and his understanding of that,
you know, certain aspects to the game, that still does
(17:02):
not qualify nor justify the pick. Because there are a
lot of guys out there that work their asses off.
You could use that terminology for a lot of guys
out there that have more of a resume than what
Bronnie James has.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I would almost respect it more if they just came
out and said, yeah, we think it's a good story.
I want to see him play with his dad. Sweet
and he's going to and you know.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
What, I would almost respect him more if they just said, yeah,
we're doing this to keep Lebron, We're going to have
to keep Len because because I forget, forget the story,
forget the story. It's a great story. It's it's Hallmark.
You know, they can come up with their own story
or whatever, much like they don't with the Kansas City Chiefs.
That'd be cute. Could you see Christmas with.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
The James fan Yeah, it's it's you know, Lebron and Bronni.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
They're coming back from after a you know, long road trips,
seeing what happens on the NBA road trips back for Christmas.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
So that works out.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
But I look at it and say, if you just
came out and said, we feel like we need Lebron James,
we want Lebron James to be here through the end
of his crew. We wanted him to retire a Laker.
That is like, oh, all right, well, whoever playing you
know pan.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Brownie, what does it mean?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
It doesn't matter, right because we've seen that on other
teams where Giannis and his brother's on the on the
bucks and you know, there's other examples of that that's
the one that makes the most sense. Hey, it's about
our superstar. It's about making him happy, allowing him to
come back.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Okay, say it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And no problem at all. But it's the whole song
and dance and the dog and pony show of well,
you know, it's the hard work. And it's like, come on, dude.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And you forcing Bronni James. I have to answer questions
that this shouldn't have to fall on him. This shouldn't
have to be the pressure he has to deal with.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like, don't crap on my plate and tell me it's
an apple fritter. Okay, dang, you know what I mean.
He talked about me like this my entire life. Oh,
it's got your dad.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
But your dad been putting the best players around you
your entire life.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And then, quite.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Frankly, you you dide thing one thing at USC, one year,
one thing at USC, and now you you a fifty
fifth draft pick in the second round of the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I mean, dreams come true. Yeah, dreams do come true.
Oh man, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Sports training out. Don't get your ass up out of
my face. Dad, You think you can help know. Ain't
gonna be talking bad about your daddy. Boy, Your daddy
beg you out of here?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
What there go? Lift some of the weights.
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
So Tom Brady was speaking recently on the Pivot the
podcast and was just sort of discussing his time in
the NFL getting ready for his broadcasting career, and he
pointed out maybe the one regret he has from his
legendary career in the NFL. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
What I would have changed was. Okay, this part of
me I actually still love. Like when I see these
young players, I see like Patrick you know, out there
at quarterback, running around, laughing, having fun.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I'm like, I used to be like that.
Speaker 10 (20:44):
The hell happened to me, you know, and I just
got too serious. But again, I can only look back
and think, Okay, if I if I do it again,
which I'll never do it again, I would be different.
But at the realities you can't. So you just learn
from it and go, Okay, now, next phase of life,
enjoy it a little more.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Ah oh, I love that guy. Who that Tom Brady?
H what a guy all right?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
If he had had more fun and his career was
what it was, can you have? But like afterwards, he
would have regretted not taking it more serious. So it's
kind of whatever you didn't no.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
No, no, no, no, no no no, you're missing this point.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I feel like one hundred percent understand what he's saying.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Like there's I mean, think about how many shots of
Tom Brady you saw with his you know, kind of
intense look getting all fired up, you know, running down
even like before games, yelling out to the crowd like
let's go, Like that was kind of his thing, and
he always came off as more of a fiery competitor
as compared to a guy who you.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Know was gonna laugh and have fun and all that.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Like, there was very few moments, if ever, So I
understand what he's saying because, like I even look back
on it now, and even though I didn't have anywhere
close to anything that Tom Brady accomplished in the.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
NFL, I look back and it was like, well, did
you enjoy it? Though?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Like, ultimately it's a sport, like you're playing a game
as a profession, and as big of the money as
there is and the stakes and the competition all those things,
there still has to be moments that you enjoy. And
for Tom Brady, I think the hard thing is he's
had more success than anyone and he's looking back now
thinking like man I was, he was probably so obsessed
(22:29):
with the next one, because that's what he'd always says,
is the next one is the most important, not the
last super Bowl, and not the last one, the next one,
that's what's most important, and I think you get so
stuck in that thought process that you never truly get
to enjoy and live in the moment.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
And that's what I think he's speaking to.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I just think success is success, And if he had
did it any differently, it might have came out differently.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Right, I might not have the success, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
And you might not have the twenty twenty high sight
to be able to say, you know, I'm going to
have more fun now.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I mean, you're Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You can have more fun now, and you can say
pretty much within reason, anything you want to say, and
there's going to have some sense. There's gonna have some
sensibility to it. I mean in my estimation of it.
So I don't I don't listen. I'd rather recall Tom
Brady's career the way that I recall it, like personally, selfishly,
(23:27):
someone who came through the ranks with him.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We were in the same.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Draft class, littermate. I would rather remember. I would rather
remember him knowing that we were killers out there on
the field. He was in the Serengetti for real. He
wasn't out there with you know, toothless, you know, lines
and tigers and bears.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
He was out there with we had fangs. Yeah, yeah,
we had fangs.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And these guys these days, you know why they're having
so much fun and joking around and cann act us.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Ain't nobody hit them. They're not allowed to get hit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
So so Tom, I'll say this, I like remembering you
the way I remember you.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I don't I don't need to remember you as this
guy that was always key.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Keying and joking and laughing, laughing and hooting and hollering
while you were playing the game. Nah, you were out
there to win a game. You were out there to compete.
And I like that.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
That's a great point though, too, about how much the
game's changed of the course that he played. I mean,
he was born into an era of football where and
he's talked about it like you couldn't throw across the
middle because you'll be hanging your wide receiver out to dry,
you know, like protection of a wide receiver. And now
he's considered defenseless when he's in the active catching.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
That was on the onus was on the quarterback, you know.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
But before they had that rule, it was an unwritten
rule for quarterbacks, like you don't hang your wide receiver
out to dry.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I can't tell you how.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Many times I've seen a ball be thrown behind a
wide receiver and you know the competition.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Oh it's an inaccurate throw by Gosh Johnson. Look at that.
It's like, no, oh, you idiot.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
He was trying to stop him for getting blown up
because the wide receiver ran through the window and zone coverage,
or he's running into another defender. He's trying to put
on his back shoulder, but the wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Has no feel. And that's where you come in a court.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
You come in a quarterback room and you start to
really understand like why they do what they do and.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
It's and it's natural.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
But nowadays the receivers get the protection, so quarterbacks can
take a lot bigger risks.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
But with that.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Comes some of the hits that you're seeing when these
guys get knocked out. And I think that seriousness of
how the game was played maybe plays a role in
it too, where you couldn't be as carefree and run
around as throw the ball up and be like somebody's
down there somewhere. You know, like that wasn't a thing
it is now because the way the way the rules changed.
But I think that's like a plays a part or role.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
In this too.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, I'd rather regret not working.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
God bless you.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Straight turned it off, yeah and still got it damn powerful,
all right, blow.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It out, blow it out. I mean it was. It's
a little dusty and it's some dustimate test.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Jonas told me you got powerful lungs that you can
breath through your ears.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That is very true. That's a great point. That's very
point and class personified right there from Brady Quinn. What
very nice of you to bless me, you know, thank you,
by the way. That is a skill set that comes
in handy and a lot of walks of life. I'll
tell you that you know able to do that. Being
able to bless somebody now through yours is.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Trying to turn the wheel into the car, and that
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm simply, I simply.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
A guy can't say, God bless you to look work
associate and tang.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm simply I'm sidly trying to I'm.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Not.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Now, let me ask you this, wouldn't you rather wouldn't
you rather regret not smiling than look back and go, oh,
I wish it would have worked harder. I smiled quite
a bit on the football field.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I don't think that's what he's saying. Just because you
smile doesn't mean you're not working.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, but a smile like you're having a good time.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
No, I think it's what should he soaked it up more?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, and like joked around and clowned around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What it sounds like you spend a minute clowning around,
it's a minute you take away from hard work.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
No, his and his era, a minute of clowning around
could have costed him a season because I was trying
to Guys like me were trying to rip your head
off or your leg off and take it with us,
like I wanted to beat you over to your sideline
with your own arm. And some people like some people
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ain't ready for the getty. That's correct, that's right, they're
not ready for it. And you know what it's. It's
a modified it's a modified Ai Serengetti.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Now in the NFL, it's modified.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Instead of instead of taking down your prey and taking
the life out of it and eating it, now you
just you tag it or you pull a flag off
of it, and it's like, all right, you're dead, Like
you know, we get to eat you now.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But not really. Are you saying Pete is running around
out there?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I guess so, man, are you how does Peter feel
about another animal that kills another animal?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Are you calling it? Are you calling it vegan football?
Is that what you're calling?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
That's very well put? I think that's very well stated.
Vegan football. Damn, this is now what it is out there,
vegan football, AI, vegan football.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Being well Brady Brady's talking about having so many concussions anything, but.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
That was part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
That was an older, older school way of looking at football.
It's like how hard could you get hit and get
back up and play through it?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
And you had to have your your mental mindset ready
for that. I think that's why cats weren't joking around
so much, right, I mean honestly, like, that's that's to
be able to take somebody down, Like, Okay, you want
to go in laughing and joking and stuff, and you
got to hit your own Bettis and and by the way,
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he has you know, this guy blocking for him in
front of him, or you got to go against Sam
Gash this week, or Lorenzo O'Neil, you got to meet
him in the hole and they might it might be
a long day of la day and Tomlinson, you want
to laugh and joke about that, go be my guest.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Who is the worst fall back you ever went up against?
I mean, Zoe is the like Zoe and gash like that.
I mean, that's it's like hitting. It's like hitting a
brick wall. Like imagine you have to run into.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
A brick wall to do your job full speed, hit
it with your shoulder in the side of your head.
That's what it fit. That's what it felt like. And
you might ask, well, have you ever hit a brick wall?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I have, Actually I've tried it. Didn't like it. But
that's the equivalent. Is like hitting like you're hitting an
immovable force. Is that is that correctly stated?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's a lot of man and it's a lot. And
the way they had, especially Zoe, the way he had
his shoulder pads built up and the way he was built.
He would you guys, remember he man like the what
was the dude that you used to smash down and
then he jumped back up?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He's like whack him on? Is that who it was?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
He was?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He was just he was strong built dude, but he
had no neck and you could press him down and
then he that was like Zoe. He had no neck.
It was like just the top part of a helmet,
all pads, all legs. That that was it, and it
was It was bad. And I'm not laughing about that.
I'm not. I'm not coming into that joking about that. Like,
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I'm not. We got a thump and one of us
is going to give in, and whoever gives in, it's
gonna make that the day that much longer for the
person who gives in. There's no joking about that. So
I just but I don't feel like they had that.
They don't even have fullbacks anymore, and they don't even
pay tailback. So it's like kind of like what do
you care?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
You know they've they've got fullbacks channel. I'm just saying, well,
use checks one.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm just going to the dude for Baltimore. Oh yeah,
what's he like? Three fifty?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
What is? What are the measurables on him?
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I think about this on the backfield, Ricard behind that
offensive line, which is one of the bigger in the NFL,
and then Derrick Henry now and then imagine like you've
gotta worry about that, LeVar, then you have to worry
about Lamar Jackson, who's the greatest athlete a quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Which they didn't even do that back in our day, right,
they weren't doing They weren't doing that that type of
RPO type of stuff back then.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
He just you go from having to get through one
mac truck to tackle another mac truck and then, by
the way, there's a dude driving for a Ferrari that
might be able to just scoot it right around the.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
End like that is.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
I can't, by the way, not to get off on
a tangent. I can't wait to see what the Ravens
offense looks like this.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, just until the championship weekend though. Oh man, so
Patrick Riccardo.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Patrick ricard is six three three eleven Derrick Henry's six
three two fifty.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
That's really cbated athlete Patrick riccard Like he moves extremely
well for that size.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Is that the imagine having to deal with that?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
All right? So what was the That's what I'm saying.
You're not laughing going into a game like ha, who
look at hell ha ha?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Like no, I'm making myself, mad, I'm coming in infuriated.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Is it better getting a car accident or something? Pissed off?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You slapped me? Come on, move like like John Anderson,
is that a Is that the biggest backfield next to
Christian Okoye, Barry Word, Kevin Mack? Who is the the
other Browns running back? Is it Metcalf? Metcalf? And yeah,
so we're looking at the biggest a field potentially.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
And then.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well I was thinking because I thought it was it's
not that.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Big either for the I mean, he's not three eleven, dude?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Was it was it Ernest Biner? Like, who's the other back?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I'm just saying even then, like three eleven as a fullback?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And that's that's unheard.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
It was very word.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I don't think there's ever been a running back that's
three hundred pounds.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Throw some other old players in there, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Johnson, you love it. I mean Jerome Bettis is seventy
pounds more.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Jonas Like, there's no comparison.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Christian okoy two fifty three. Yeah, you got it. Listen,
it's we're looking at history here. We've got we've got history.
And no let me just because listen, I'm gonna find
a loop here. Hold on, let's uh, what do you do?
Even even William Perry was three thirty five, so even
if you threw him in the back.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, but I mean that's like, that's like when they
threw Warrnant Sap in the back like that, they're not
running back them in there.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So well, here's the problem. I'm trying to find a
flaw in the Derek Henry Patrick Ricard backfield because I
have the Ravens not making the playoffs. So oh wow,
that feels like that could be a problem that could
issues there. So and by the way, maybe that's why
Lamar Jackson did lose weight because he's like, you know what,
I don't want the field to till that much, so
I'd rather come in slim and kind of even things
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out there.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Speaking of you should hear Jonas's belly right now.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
God, I haven't eaten in a long time.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
That thing is upset too. Yeah, yeah, it's very very run.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Right side note, side note, because I no offense to Johns.
I don't want to talk about a stomach.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
If you if everyone's been watching in Copa America and
like UEFA, but Copa America in particular because all the
games are being played in like these NFL stadiums. Have
you noticed something like the stadiums that have turf, they
get grass.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
For these Has anyone noticed that?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
And it's like, well, we're willing to do it for
these on off soccer events, but we're not willing to
do it for the eight or nine games for football players.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
We've got a home. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's correct. They've earned it, they've earned the right. You know,
they're visiting, so it looks like it's the house is
always cleaner when you have guests over right, you know,
like it's never that clean when it's just you and
your family hanging out. So when the guests come over,
the in laws come over, you always make sure everything
looks spotless. And that's what these NFL owners are doing,
all right, So good for them. I why should they
have to pay a premium just to make sure that
(35:30):
their their players are healthy and no issues whatsoever. So
is what it is? All right? Two pros and a
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Speaker 11 (35:47):
I would have never believed that LeVar Arrington and I
have something in common on the football field. Okay, why not,
But apparently it's true. Going up against Lorenzo O'Neil, Yeah, wow,
I went up against him in high school.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Oh you played against him a high school? I did,
really did? Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well? Uh, the same person back then?
Speaker 11 (36:11):
Well, younger, yes, but uh he was.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
He was.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
He was definitely stronger than me. It's definitely faster than me.
I was a sinner and he was a linebacker and
uh yeah, that did not go well, did not go well.
He was also like a he was a championship wrestler
as well.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So which which high school he played?
Speaker 11 (36:31):
He played at More High School in Central California.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh man, yeah, yeah, well you live to tell about it.
Speaker 11 (36:38):
I did, and I'm happy about that. And then I
went to school with him at Fresleo State. But then
I didn't play football anymore. He did, so he was.
He's uh, he was amazing.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
If the fullback ever gets in the Hall of Fame,
I I'd love to see him get in, but I
don't know if that's ever gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
He should, he should get so fullbacks never gotten in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
I don't believe not a true blocking back, right, I mean,
if you're gonna get punk there, right, can we get
a blocking.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Bag Goost Johnson couldn't get in there at least or nope?
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Wow, all right, Lorenzo Neil is easily on that list
a short list the greatest fullbacks of all time.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So it's a good point. Yeah, it's a good point,
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific, So.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's about that time every Wednesday morning. We turn it
over to the Old Pe Petros Papadakis. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports.
He's also a Fox College Football analyst and you can
get him on Twitter again at the Old Pe Petros.
(37:49):
Good morning, Happy, I don't know, early fourth July to you.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
And yours, Oh thank you, Yes, fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
What a holiday good morning, certainly is I can't.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Wait for my fireworks show to be canceled and turned
into a drone show, a lay.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Mass drone show.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You don't like drones, not compared to fireworks. Is that
happening now?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, everything's getting canceled, all the firework shows and turned
into drone shows.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Racist or something? What happened?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
But no, yes, actually probably because they're they're connected to
the environment and climate change, so they made the insurance
so difficult to get that a lot of these firework
companies can't afford to put on these shows, and they
cancel them and all this and there's a clamber to
find live free fireworks. Some of the old shows that
(38:40):
have been going for like seventy years are canceled in town.
Some of them are on like July second or July fifth,
which doesn't make sense, but here we are anyway, Yes,
happy early fourth way to go.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I am Petros. Brownie was introduced yesterday to the.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Meeting in five am.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Thing is not as savory I gotta be. Was this
a brilliant idea of the general patent of sports talk radio.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Lee de Lap, the flatulent Lee de Lap.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, yeah, this, guys, I mean, I am just, I
am less. I'm a lot more ornery and anyway, it's
something we can discuss well.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I mean, listen, I think that's perfect. It's a perfect
segue to Bronnie James. I mean, I don't know if
you saw that, Petros, but he was introduced to Let
me read you today.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Let me read you a couple of today's headlines.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yes, just think about this tomorrow's headlines today.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I've heard that somewhere.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Number one. The Lakers are proud to announce that thirty
seven year old Savannah James, wife of Lebron, is the
organization's new chief financial officer. Team owner Jeanie Buss said,
Savannah's previous job experience is unpair tank. That's that's tomorrow's headline, Thursday.
Are you ready for Friday's headline? The Lakers have announced
(40:08):
that nine year old Zuri James, daughter of Lebron, has
earned a spot on the twenty four to twenty five
Lakers Girls squad. Team owner Genie Buss said, we've had
our eye on Zuri since she was in the first grade,
and we believe she's now ready to take the Laker
Girls to new Heights tank a couple of headlines that
(40:30):
are very believable at this point, and yeah, they introduced Browny,
that poor connect guy. They're sitting there with the guy
who was their their first round pick, who played at
a JC, then Northern Colorado, then took an ni AL
(40:50):
deal at Tennessee, was one of the best performing players
in the SEC, if not the best player in the SEC,
and he's sitting there with his Bama bangs listening to
them talk about how Bronnie James quote unquote earned this,
and JJ Reddick talked down to everybody about how this
is earned and this is everybody who says it otherwise
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is a troglodyte or some kind of philistine, and we're
all just supposed to accept it. I mean, guys, it's
been a lifetime of watching Lebron James be a great player,
and somewhere in there he became this manipulator of rosters
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and firer of coaches and all of these different things
that have been alleged and alleged and alleged over the years.
I'm know Lebron historian. I'm not one of those people
that knows the play by play of what went down
between him and Eric Spolstra, or what went down between
him and Kyrie Irving, or what went down between him and.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Pat Riley, or what went down.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know, all of these people all over the years
that all of these things that we've had reported. I'm
not one of those people that has a real grip
or a handle on that, you know, that can tell
you exactly the timeline of what happened. But all you
need to know is this, here's a guy with an
incredible reputation for manipulation and doing stuff behind the scenes
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and then acting as if he has nothing to do
with it, and the Lakers have fired their coach, they
have hired a guy with zero coaching experience, zero coaching
experience to be the new head coach who happens to
be Lebron's podcast partner. And then they just happened to
draft his son with a general consensusus not an NBA prospect.
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And then they just happened to put his son on
the roster and then tell everybody what a holes they
are for dissension and saying, well, this owner hired this
son to be a scout or every football coach I've
ever known has this kid as a tight end coach. Yeah,
that's different. Uh that that is not the meritocracy of
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the field of play or the court in this case,
and there is something about it. Look, I didn't I
don't care who the Lakers draft in the second round,
Like I've never cared about that before. But when I
heard him say Bronnie's name, even though it was a
fata compli or a foregone conclusion, it grossed me out.
It disgusted me. And now this the the aftermath of
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sitting there and JJ Reddick's like, I just want to
clarify Bronni has earned this, and it's like, it's not
this kid's fault. He's just sitting up there doing whatever
he's doing because this is exactly what his dad wants.
And everybody's gonna do whatever they can to make it happen.
And maybe in the world of the NBA you can
earn that and make that. I mean, I guess you can,
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but man, it is it is a gross thing to watch,
and it's gonna be an all so long story with
the summer League and you know, any weird thing that happens.
I mean, you think Victor wembyden yeam, I'm knocking Britney
spears over with his bodyguard as a story, wait till
the Summer League pops off? Meg My god, I thought
Mountain West Media Day was a big story.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
So so Petro's one of the things that I've kind
of read in regards to people's comments about this entire
situation is well, if it's to get Lebron back, so what. Well,
And you could say so what, but like the Bucks
brought in. You know, Giannis's brother, he's twenty six.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
I get that.
Speaker 7 (44:37):
But you know some people would say, like, all right,
you know how how does that kind of work out?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I mean, he's going to get Yanni's to the freaking
place on time, you know, make sure he's.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
There, you know that kind of thing. I get that.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
And it's Milwaukee, you know the you know that all
of these pushback arguments. Fine, if that's what it takes
to have an NBA franchise, and you.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Have to have you have star. You have to have
a star.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You can't rebuild, you can't do it right, you can't
do it like anybody else. You have to have a
star that manipulates everything, polarizes the whole city, bastardizes the brand,
makes Laker fans feel like they're not Laker fans anymore.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
I get so many.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Freaking text tweets people saying, I used to be a
Laker fan. I didn't even like Kobe, but I was
still a Laker fan. But this Lebron thing, it's over.
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Is this the worst thing that's happened to the Lakers
in your lifetime?
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Or what you can read it is, it's the grossest
thing they've ever done. It's amazing because this has all
happened in like a two week period where Jerry West died,
who really was one of the most honorable men in
the way front office works and the way you deal
with players, all of these things, and who he was
as a player and a front office guy, Hall of
(45:58):
Fame all the way through, and Genie Buss banned him
from the Lakers. They had terrible feelings and the sentiment
toward Jerry West in the world of basketball and in
this town. When people hear that Genie Buss did that,
they're infuriated. And that's like a story that just came
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out around this same time, and under the backdrop of
the Celtics, who are the Lakers big rival, just pulling
ahead in the championship count race, and one of those
Lakers championships is the Bubble Championship, so whatever.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
But I think that the Jerry West snub.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Or what they allowed to happen with their relationship with
Jerry West and this allowed manipulation from Lebron James are
two of the darkest days or moments in Laker franchise history,
no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Is that a good answer? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I mean, I mean, I think, yeah, this is probably
the grossest thing they've ever done, because it's not so
much what they're doing, it's like, Okay, this is what
you need to do to keep Lebron, all right, fine,
do it, tell everybody you're doing it.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
We all just get nailed by the king anyway around here.
But it's the fact that they have these deployed army
of media people who are either on the payroll literally
or on the emotional payroll, where they think it's the
cool thing to do to tell everybody the Lebron's a
better father than the rest of us, and any good
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father would do this for his son.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
What excuse me, I wouldn't do it for myself exactly.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I mean, guys, is there any chance that Bronny can
play himself out of the situation that they've drafted him into.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yes, and a lot of expert but you know, that's
the whole thing. I mean, this whole thing has been
done backward. Here's but that that would have happened years
years ago. That decision should have been made years ago.
If he wanted to stay in LA, he should have
gone and played at UC Irvine or a place like that. Develop, learn, fight,
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become an all conference type of player by the time
you're a junior or a senior, and then earn your
draft status. You know, sure you might get drafted a
little higher than you should have been because you're a Lebron's.
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Son, but earn it. That's earning it, right.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Or stay at USC and see what Eric Musselman is
gonna do, or transfer, transfer to Quinnipiac or whatever where
Lebron's friend is coaching.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Like, fight, earn it, make it work.
Speaker 7 (48:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
He was not an impact player on a bad USC team.
And they turned around yesterday and tried to blame the
USC for that, and it's like, no, you handpicked that school,
you manipulated that situation.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
It didn't work out for you.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
And of course it's somebody else's fault. He could play
himself into being an NBA rotation player according to some experts.
But I mean, I'm not a draft expert. But when
you're six foot one and you don't have a handle
enough to play point guard, and you don't shoot enough
to play shooting guard and you're only six y' one,
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how are you going to switch off on defense? What
are you doing out there?
Speaker 4 (49:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean, I don't know. And also what does it
do to the dynamic of your team? You know, everybody
in that organization is used to being nailed by the king,
But like as far as the court, the competition part
of it, that everybody's going to have to just absorb this.
How does that work? I don't know, I really don't.
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I mean, the eye rolling must be off the charts.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
What does it do to the dynamic of your own
culture if you even have one? And JJ Reddick sitting
there talking about I'm going to install culture and we're
going to build out a holistic player development program and
you know, using all these weird big words for you know,
the same thing we've known about for years on how
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to prepare a basketball team or a sports team for anything.
Apparently he's got some new innovative way. But I mean,
let me ask you guys a question. How do you
install a culture with a forty year old superstar quasar
guy who controls everything, who just drafted his son and
gave him a guaranteed place on the roster, and then
everybody sits there and tells you he has nothing to
(50:35):
do with it. That's what insults me that they just
sit there and tell you straight face that they didn't
even talk to Lebron and he's got almost nothing to
do with this, and we're just supposed to sit there
and wear it. And I don't like it. I mean
I didn't think i'd care that much. I'm more excited
about the college football season getting started and how weird
it's going to be. But yeah, this situation I don't like.
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I don't like it at all.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
I mean, we'll never hear this because he controls so
much of the media coverage that goes on and the
story surrounding it. But they've got to be the laughing
stock of the league right now. I mean, Klay Thompson, well, it.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
Hurts the credibility on the NBA.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yes, it does. And it's also like there's probably people
around the league that are going in. I don't want
any part of that. Like, I wonder if Klay Thompson
looked at the situation was like, listen, my dad played here.
I grew up a Laker fan. I love the franchise. Yeah,
they're offering me a lot of money. And then the
spin on it is well, the state tax in Texas
(51:36):
and you know, a chance to play for It's like no.
I wonder if he looked at it and said.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, we know Michael Thompson pretty well. Yeah, Michael used
to work with us when I first started working at Well,
actually he got the job over me many years ago.
I auditioned for that job, and I was told by
Steve Hartman, who works on weekends at Fox Sports, rabo,
oh yeah, when it was in my twenties, you're gonna
get it. You're in the lead. You're gonna get this job.
(52:03):
You get this job right now.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
It's a four gone conclusion his jown.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
And I was like, damn, you know, I'm gonna get
that job. I'm gonna be the loose cannon. You know,
I'm gonna be with Steve Hartman and it was the
longest running show in town and all that stuff. And
around that time, the Lakers ended up signing with five
seventy uh and they ended up hiring Michael as their
color guy, and it ended up just going that way
(52:31):
at least that's what they told me. And he's a
wonderful guy. I ended up at that station doing the
afternoon drive show and which I'm still doing. And we
love Michael. I mean, Michael was so much fun to
be around, even though he was a Kobe and Lebron
ball washer and all that.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
He was great.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
But what Matt and I, my radio partner, thought was
like Michael, who's a Bahamian guy, was like, you know,
you got to your Lika and then like behind the scenes,
you know, openly in the papers and stuff.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
And you know, I want him to be a Lika.
I love this fruntchise.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
And then like like deep down, like you know, in
his son's ear when he's hugging him.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
Get a fire. Wee as you can. Lebron is destroyed, displace,
you know, run son, run boy. But uh, I think
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
I don't know what happened there, but I think Michael
might have winked at him a little bit. I don't
know I would have if I were him, but you
have to sit there. I mean, he's been working for
the Lakers for decades. The Lakers changed his life when
they when they traded him in and he won a
championship with Magic and all them over the Celtics. I mean,
Michael is a life for Laker. But I wouldn't want
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my son in that situation. I mean, if your son
plays well, then great, Lebron made your son play well.
If your son fails or you guys don't win, whatever,
then it's his fault that he ruined Lebron's career and
he's wrecking the end of Lebron's legacy. I mean, it's
getting old, and it's been decades of just getting nailed
(54:16):
by the King, and I don't know, I feel like
people are tired of it. Everybody except for that toad
fat guy in Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (54:23):
Jesus Petros you mentioned earlier just about college football starting up.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
We do have media days starting next week. Talk to me.
It was going to Mountain West with me. Who's going
to Bay.
Speaker 7 (54:36):
I'll be out there, baby, I'll be out there with
and the two pack that's what I'm calling the pack
coming to the pack.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Two. I got invited to the pack to dinner. You
didn't get to take forty five minutes. You a whole.
You didn't get that email. I did. I got that
emails on that email, Petros, and I got the follow
up email from my boss which says, you'll be at this.
It'll be you, me and about for the people. Yeah,
John Canzano, John Wilner, maybe the ghost of Yogi. It
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all sails life.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
The email literally is like, by the bye, while you're
in Vegas, while you're in town for the Las Vegas
Grateful Dead at the Sphere and the Mountain West media Day.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
Why don't you bop on over to the Blagio and
spend the evening with the pac two.
Speaker 7 (55:24):
Betros, you have coined the phrase bacon caller, I believe
in regards to I'm not sure if those are the
draft or commoh the bacon neck Yeah yeah, bacon Excuse me, no,
tell me what people are missing out on at these
media days.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Paid a picture for us. Your experience is going to
these what they're missing out, what you'll be seeing there.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Well, you know, my very first job ever at the
age of twenty three, right out of USC was to
interview Deshan Foster, who's now the head coach at UCLA,
at the PAC ten Media Day, which used to be
at the Sheraton, the Airport Sheraton for many years in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (56:03):
And if you haven't seen Chip Kelly.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Have a meltdown because they won't bring his valet car there,
then you haven't lived.
Speaker 5 (56:10):
But what is it like? I mean?
Speaker 3 (56:12):
For me at these they usually bring me into a
what did they call a breakout room, which is like,
you know, some little beating room in a hotel, and
the different coaches all come to me and for ten
minutes apiece and tell me their problems like a psychiatrist,
and then I go home.
Speaker 5 (56:30):
That's usually what it's like.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
And there's a few radio shows set up like Weenie
in the Butt, you know or whatever, and that's a.
Speaker 5 (56:40):
Family guy thing.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
I love that show.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yeah, who was the other show? They had?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Dingo and the Baby. Oh, you guys have a lot
of shows. You guys have the nighttime show Fat Head
and Clean Dome.
Speaker 5 (56:59):
Though not heard of any of this, it's a good one.
Jason Smith, the Fat Head and Clean Dome show.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
You have the New York Mailbox Head Show, Mailbox Head
and Mailbox Covino and Rich.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
Anyway, the point is, uh, oh no, oh no, what
were we talking about. Who cares the media days?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (57:20):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
They set up like it's like Jeff Schwartz, you know
Jeff Schwartz, that big ass lineman guy.
Speaker 5 (57:26):
Yes, yeah, he just sits there and it's like.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Well, you know, I really like yeah, he also works here.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
We've got more of a zone feel here. Hey, I
like this. Just look at this power action. No, it's
just a lot like that.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
It's all the media guys sitting around and bs and
and it's not there's nothing wrong with it. I actually
like the media days because you see people, you catch
up with people, you give people a hug, you're physically
in front of people.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I've always liked that people look fat, people look skinny.
Do you say anything to people who look skinny?
Speaker 5 (58:01):
He used to look fat? Do you say, oh he lost? Wait?
You guys remember Jim Herrick.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
He's still alive. One of the great college basketball coaches.
A couple of controversies here and there, but he was
the head coach at Morningside High School many years ago,
where Byron Scott and Lisa Leslie and people like that
played not he wasn't their coach, but then he went
to Pepperdine and then he won a championship at UCLA
in the nineties. Anyway, if you ever saw Jim Herrick,
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and he's very old and he's very popular, so he
probably doesn't remember your name, but you could tell if
you were fat or not, just by the way Jim
Herrick greeted you, right, because if you were skinny, he'd say, hey, stick,
how's it going stick? And you'd be like, wow, okay,
I'm a stick. And then if you're fat, all he
(58:50):
would say is very is very is and you're like,
oh no, I was stick last time last.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
It's like damn uh.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Get him on Twitter at the old p Petros, Papadegas,
the Coast of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy l a
Sports Fox college football analyst, also our buddy every Wednesday
morning here on fsr PE. We appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
All right, I appreciate you guys right there, thank you
for having me there.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
He goes bright and early at eight Eastern time, five
o'clock Pacific
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with lamar As, Rady Winn and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feel in here? You guys ready
to go for the fourth of July?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
L one.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
They move quick when they think it's going to rain
at Wimbledon, don't they?
Speaker 5 (00:21):
Yes, they yes, they'd be moving to get them tarts out.
Athletes man athletes with those tarts.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
I mean, that's the highlight for certain by guys, good morning.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
The low light is no, bet Jesus.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well maybe I don't know.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
You guys gotta know how to treat them.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Yeah, you just don't know how to treat them.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
You gotta know how to treat him. You know, he
comes out here, he's just once to treated fairlight.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Bet Jesus, you can't water sucks waters. You can't bully
the guy and expect him to show up. Oh my god,
act accordingly that damn Well, he ain't got it, got it?
Not the way he gambles.
Speaker 6 (01:06):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
But yeah, the the Wimbledon, what is it to call
the center court? Whatever?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
I got my kids doing that best now they heard
doing this on the show.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Dank Damn.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I don't know why I do it?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Do it at home?
Speaker 4 (01:20):
It's kind of funny. Like everything something something happens, It's like, dang.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I think I heard you doing We just started all
doing it. It's so dumb, so stupid. My kids hit
me when yesterday I was like, wait, hold on, you're
supposed to be sleep. How do not have it?
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Damn dank.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
The who cares about wibbled We're gonna be honest, I mean,
who really gives a rip? Now, By the way, let
me just ask you a fun question to get things started.
Would you guys watch Wimbledon if he knew every one
of those players was on the gas?
Speaker 7 (01:57):
Would you want you're upset with a gash like it?
I'd watch it to still watch it. I mean, honestly,
how do you know they're not?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, that's very true. All right, well I'll just pretend
they are. That's very true. I would.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I would watch if Wimbleton was full contact tennis.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
That's what I would watch.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
You know, if at any point in time, like like
in hockey, you know, like a moment in time, like
something happens, there's a bad call by the judge and
then you go pull the judge out of their seat,
and then you just start, you know, going at it,
you know, yea fighting.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Giveing a spinebuster right off that chair, suplex, Is that
like a lifeguard chair? That there is like a lifeguard chair, right?
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I feel like if it was some type of fool
contact that took place, like go at it with your
your your racket or something like that, I would watch.
Ye I certainly, like there's always one in every sport.
If you had that one dude or that one lady
that was like, you know what, they're valient, I'm watching
that one. That's the match I'm watching right there.
Speaker 5 (03:04):
For sure.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
For sure, there's going to be a fisticuffs in this one.
This match here. I know it's supposed to be gentlemanly
and womanly and all that stuff, but I would want
to see some heathenism take place and and and some fighting.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Great call, thank you, Yeah, I mean this, And that's
what made John McEnroe great.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
I mean maybe something some highest maybe yeah, that helped too.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I agree, allright, Well listen I'm stopping there though. Yeah. Yeah,
from center court to the NBA court. Oh no, where
that there, man, oh man. Second round picks are getting
introduced in the NBA. All of a sudden, and that
second round pick is Bronnie James, pick number fifty five,
(03:50):
but got the full treatment yesterday along with Dalton Connect
from the Los Angeles Slakers, and uh, here's a little
Bronnie James while being in introduced to the media talking
about the pressure he feels going into this upcoming season.
Speaker 8 (04:05):
For sure, the amplified amount of pressure. I've already seen
it stuff media and stuff on it and the internet
and stuff talking about I might not deserve an opportunity,
but you know, I've been dealing with stuff like this
for my whole life. So it's it's it's nothing different,
but it's it's it's more amplified for sure.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
But I can get through it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
So because it's true you've been dealing with for your
entire life. Because it's true.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
People keep sitting it. I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Let's see, let's let's think about this.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
Why are they saying it everybody for your entire life?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
So one of it looks like a duck if it
walks like a duck.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
That's what they say. So according to uh Woj in
ESPN and those guys, they're saying that the Lakers and
Browny's representative Rich All of Clutch Sports. They've discussed a
multi year contract that would assure him one of LA's
fifteen full fledged roster spots, sources told ESPN.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Assured, Yeah, but I've been hearing this all my life.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
You know, don't worry about it. You know what, you
know what's great about the Lakers. He's not top fifty
four in the draft, but he's top fifty on our team.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Damn Okay.
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Well, you'd almost wonder if there's not going to be
a grievance that's going to be filed at some point
with a player who doesn't make the roster.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I feel like that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
You almost wonder if we're really being serious about this,
If you're a player who's on that roster, you've got
prior NBA experience, and you're cut, you're released, you don't
make it because he does. There's an element of like, well,
how's he able to sign a contract that you know
automatically puts him on the team. I guess that's kind
(06:01):
of how contracts work, But it feels like there's something
else going on here. It's a little more fishy, and
I guess at the end of the day, any NBA
team can do whatever they want. They can make the
poorest decision or the best decision. However we want to
talk about it on the outside, and that's their own prerogative.
But I do feel like for some of those players,
(06:23):
they've got to be frustrated because it has a lot
more to do with lebron than it does which, by
the way, has he signed his extension yet?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So no he s wonder why wonder if maybe you
can hold that over the Lakers.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Head until he gets Yeah, it was the whole thing.
It's just such a clown.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
I mean, there's the conversation man Plex had it on Saturday.
I guess they haven't Yeah, stretch, why why why haven't
they announced if he's playing in summer League or not?
And I don't know if that's that's a good point,
but they they have made it a point to like
is he going to play summer League? Like, well, why
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wouldn't he play summer league? Why is this even a
debate or a conversation. But there's actually the conversation that
Bronnie James might not play in the summer League, which
to me, if that if you want to talk about
keeping things under wraps, like trying to keep the truth
from from the people. Why would you not have him
play in the summer league if you want to create
(07:24):
some justification on the pick letting ball out in the
summer league.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
I would be shocked if he's not playing in the
Summer League.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
I mean, it would be the first time ever I
believe in the history of the NBA Summer League that
a draft pick didn't play in the summer League.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
If he doesn't play, is that an admission that they're
hiding in Yes.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Jeez, don't you think you can't. You can't hide players
in summer league. That's for them. That league is for them.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It's gonna skip the line.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Yeah, we're just not gonna play like this one time.
We just going like, Nah, he don't need it, Bronnie,
don't need it.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I just I almost wish that we get to the
point to where he's playing, and I'm more I find
myself rooting for him more and more because it if
he looks so bad, I'm gonna feel terrible for him,
because there's no way, like as much as he's been
giving advantages and all this stuff, like, deep down, he's
(08:20):
got to know like, man, if I get exposed like this,
there's no turning back, like the whole thing. I mean,
but he can't control that.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
You're putting him out there with professional ball play, can't
control that. We've seen his body of work. Heyway, why
you can say the Kig has talent and can play.
There's a lot of guys out there that have talent
that can play that don't play at the professional level.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
And there's a reason why, right, I mean, it just
is what it is.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
He can't control what's going to happen from what I
can gather the information that I've seen talking about that
they're gonna they're gonna, uh nationally televise every single game
that Brownie plays in. You think you think, don't you
want to see it?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Is he gonna play? Is? The question is, yeah, And
I got.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
A funny feeling. I got a funny feeling he's gonna
get a couple of minutes. You know, I don't know why, Like,
I think that's that's probably gonna go.
Speaker 5 (09:24):
I would think if I was in, though, would you
want to earn it for yourself?
Speaker 7 (09:28):
Would you Wouldn't that be the fastest way where you
kind of call off your dad? Or your pops if
he's calling the shots or whoever, and say, no, I
want to play in summer league. I want to showcase
what I can do. You know, I want to prove
to people I'm able when I'm capable of playing this league.
And that's I think the tough part is even even
(09:49):
going through the the draft, picks, selection, everything else, there's
elements of it. I wonder what the internal conversation would
be because there's there comes a certain point where you know,
maybe Dad always knows what's best, but the child might
be saying like no, like let me earn my own path,
Like if I don't get drafted, I don't get drafted, then
I could stile with L A l A Pops.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
You know, That's how I looked at it, and that
that was where that's that's perfectly put because that's that's
the perspective I was coming from the entire time. And
that's why I said, why he's not as short a
drafts or a roster spot if he gets free agent
picked up so by by drafting him. I guess that's
(10:32):
kind of the conversation that has has come about since
the draft, because to me, I don't think anybody has
an issue if it happens that way. If he does,
if he goes undrafted and and the Lakers pick him
up make the team, nobody has a problem with that. Nobody,
Like some people will have criticisms, Oh, he only made
(10:53):
the team because so what at that point?
Speaker 2 (10:55):
So well, it's like a walk on it who gets
rewarded a scholarship. Everybody's happy for Okay, but you drafted him.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hey, you got Chris Paul saying don't take him because
he's going to go to Australia if you drafted Like why.
Speaker 7 (11:09):
Rich that analogy? Though, let's go back to that analogy.
A walk on has earned it. A walk on has
in order to earn a scholarship. It's not just given
because they practice hard. A walk on in special teams
on offense or defense has proven in a live game scenario.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
They've already proven it. They've earned their stripes for a
year or two.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Maybe three, they've earned it.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
They've already proven it, and then they get that scholarship.
That's the difference. Like this isn't like, hey, he's an
undrafted guy. He finds his way on the ross, drafted
playing great in the summer league, and everything else for
the season and then plays a few minutes enough well
enough to actually make the team for the following season.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That's not how this is working out.
Speaker 7 (11:58):
This is like that escalator walking as it takes you
right to your gate to take off in the planet.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Sweet which, by the way, JJ Reddick got the same treatment.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Well, I was wondering if that guy who's at the
JJ Reddick press conference, Oh, I love this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I love I mean, you know, I was going to say,
because you guys got a lot of balls. Man coming
in here questioning whether or not Bronnie James has earned
it when JJ Reddick will clearly tell you here how
he earned this spot.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Losing rob and I did not give Bronnie anything. Bronnie
has earned this. Bronnie talks about his hard work. Bronnie
has earned this through hard work, and for us prioritizing
player development, we view Bronnie as like case study one
because his base level of feel, athleticism, point of attack, defender, shooting, passing,
(12:51):
there's a lot to like about his game, and as
we sort of build out our player development program holistically,
he's going to have a great opportunit to become an
excellent NBA player.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
That's not untrue.
Speaker 7 (13:04):
Well, hold on for secs. Here's what I keep going
back to. He's six one and a half. Yeah, for
a good like I'm not saying you can't be a
good defender of six one and a half. It's really
hard to be a good defender though, when you're one
of the shortest players in the league.
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Who is the garden, Well, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
I mean how many put it this.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Way, like, how many point guards, how many shooting guards
are his height or below?
Speaker 2 (13:34):
It's not that many.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
That's one of the.
Speaker 7 (13:36):
Toughest things about basketball. Where I remember when I was
in high school, I was like six four. I played
some AU stuff. But you looked around, You're like, he's
six y four is not that's all You look at
the NBA guys like, you've got guys.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Who are six six, six ' eight. It's a huge,
huge advantage. There's really not much you can do about it.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
And so whatever he's displayed as a defender in the
one year at Southern col is one thing. Drills and
all that, that's that's one thing. But at six one
and a half, that's it's gonna be difficult for him
to match up I'm about six ' four. You know
what I do it to someone who's sixty one six
one and a half. I take him in the post, isolated,
put him down on the post. I've got enough height
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and advantage that, like, you'll be able to get to
the rim, you'll be able to get an easy bucket
that way. I mean, I imagine his mismatch on playing
against if they do a pick and roll, if they switch,
can't switch, You're gonna put him on a six foot
ten guy, huge disadvantage.
Speaker 5 (14:34):
So like, that's some of the other things.
Speaker 7 (14:35):
And I'm not saying that there's not you know, guys
around his height in the league who make it happen.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
But usually guys who are six foot one, six foot
one and a half.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
They have extraordinary talents somewhere else. Yes, lights out, knockdown shooter.
Has Brownie been that? Not even close?
Speaker 2 (14:50):
That's the key key.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Does he even shoot forty percent from the field?
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Well, does he shoot enough to get any type of
forty from the field. I mean, if it was forty
percent from it would probably be like out of like
three four shots. I mean an AA shoot much to
get a high percentage. You got guys like Mike Conley.
He's six foot but he moves like a flea, Like
he's quick and he can't And look.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
At Mike Conley's resume coming out of.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
I mean, he's one of the top guys coming out.
He's a top guy. You got Jayleen Brunson, he's six two,
You got you got guys who are around that hike.
But listen to the names I'm telling you, like Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Like, OK, you wanted if you wanted to find a
second rounder Isaiah Thomas, not you know, the original Isaiah Thomas.
But Isaiah Thomas was drafted by Saco Belto. I think
he was I think he was the last pick of
this of the NBA draft, and he came out and
had a really good career. He was an undersized guy,
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but he could score, like at his sight, he figured
out a way. And to go back to the resume point,
he was unbelievable in college, like there was you know, just.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
Didn't Mike Conley win?
Speaker 7 (16:01):
He only played one year's a one and done and
then they win a national championship.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I went to the Final I think or the Final
War with Greg Odin.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
With Greg Oden.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Yeah, like here's the fourth overall pick, Jaylen BRUNSONI did
they win win a Villadova.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yes, yes they did.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
It's like you're talking about dudes who are coming off
of it. I mean, Southern Cow was as bad as
it could be last year in.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Basketball, and Isaiah Thomas, he put on a show at
the Pac ten tournament or Pack twelve tournament back then.
So like he, like you, there was a.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
Body of work, pay packed something.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
It's just a pack.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I just know that, just pac. I just know this.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
His heart work, his feel for the game, all those
things that red exit. It's not it's not inaccurate, it's
it's not a lie. It's just that by saying that
his heart work and his feel and his understanding of that,
you know, certain aspects to the game, that still does
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not qualify nor justify the pick. Because there are a
lot of guys out there that work their asses off.
You could use that terminology for a lot of guys
out there that have more of a resume than what
Bronnie James has.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I would almost respect it more if they just came
out and said, yeah, we think it's a good story.
I want to see him play with his dad. Sweet
and he's going to and you know.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
What, I would almost respect him more if they just said, yeah,
we're doing this to keep Lebron, We're going to have
to keep Len because because I forget, forget the story,
forget the story. It's a great story. It's it's Hallmark.
You know, they can come up with their own story
or whatever, much like they don't with the Kansas City Chiefs.
That'd be cute. Could you see Christmas with.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
The James fan Yeah, it's it's you know, Lebron and Bronni.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
They're coming back from after a you know, long road trips,
seeing what happens on the NBA road trips back for Christmas.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
So that works out.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
But I look at it and say, if you just
came out and said, we feel like we need Lebron James,
we want Lebron James to be here through the end
of his crew. We wanted him to retire a Laker.
That is like, oh, all right, well, whoever playing you
know pan.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Brownie, what does it mean?
Speaker 7 (18:11):
It doesn't matter, right because we've seen that on other
teams where Giannis and his brother's on the on the
bucks and you know, there's other examples of that that's
the one that makes the most sense. Hey, it's about
our superstar. It's about making him happy, allowing him to
come back.
Speaker 5 (18:27):
Okay, say it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
And no problem at all. But it's the whole song
and dance and the dog and pony show of well,
you know, it's the hard work. And it's like, come on, dude.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
And you forcing Bronni James. I have to answer questions
that this shouldn't have to fall on him. This shouldn't
have to be the pressure he has to deal with.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Like, don't crap on my plate and tell me it's
an apple fritter. Okay, dang, you know what I mean.
He talked about me like this my entire life. Oh,
it's got your dad.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
But your dad been putting the best players around you
your entire life.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
And then, quite.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Frankly, you you dide thing one thing at USC, one year,
one thing at USC, and now you you a fifty
fifth draft pick in the second round of the NBA Draft.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
I mean, dreams come true. Yeah, dreams do come true.
Oh man, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Sports training out. Don't get your ass up out of
my face. Dad, You think you can help know. Ain't
gonna be talking bad about your daddy. Boy, Your daddy
beg you out of here?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
What there go? Lift some of the weights.
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Speaker 2 (20:13):
So Tom Brady was speaking recently on the Pivot the
podcast and was just sort of discussing his time in
the NFL getting ready for his broadcasting career, and he
pointed out maybe the one regret he has from his
legendary career in the NFL. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
What I would have changed was. Okay, this part of
me I actually still love. Like when I see these
young players, I see like Patrick you know, out there
at quarterback, running around, laughing, having fun.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I'm like, I used to be like that.
Speaker 10 (20:44):
The hell happened to me, you know, and I just
got too serious. But again, I can only look back
and think, Okay, if I if I do it again,
which I'll never do it again, I would be different.
But at the realities you can't. So you just learn
from it and go, Okay, now, next phase of life,
enjoy it a little more.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Ah oh, I love that guy. Who that Tom Brady?
H what a guy all right?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
If he had had more fun and his career was
what it was, can you have? But like afterwards, he
would have regretted not taking it more serious. So it's
kind of whatever you didn't no.
Speaker 7 (21:18):
No, no, no, no, no no no, you're missing this point.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I feel like one hundred percent understand what he's saying.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Like there's I mean, think about how many shots of
Tom Brady you saw with his you know, kind of
intense look getting all fired up, you know, running down
even like before games, yelling out to the crowd like
let's go, Like that was kind of his thing, and
he always came off as more of a fiery competitor
as compared to a guy who you.
Speaker 5 (21:44):
Know was gonna laugh and have fun and all that.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
Like, there was very few moments, if ever, So I
understand what he's saying because, like I even look back
on it now, and even though I didn't have anywhere
close to anything that Tom Brady accomplished in the.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
NFL, I look back and it was like, well, did
you enjoy it? Though?
Speaker 7 (22:06):
Like, ultimately it's a sport, like you're playing a game
as a profession, and as big of the money as
there is and the stakes and the competition all those things,
there still has to be moments that you enjoy. And
for Tom Brady, I think the hard thing is he's
had more success than anyone and he's looking back now
thinking like man I was, he was probably so obsessed
(22:29):
with the next one, because that's what he'd always says,
is the next one is the most important, not the
last super Bowl, and not the last one, the next one,
that's what's most important, and I think you get so
stuck in that thought process that you never truly get
to enjoy and live in the moment.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
And that's what I think he's speaking to.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I just think success is success, And if he had
did it any differently, it might have came out differently.
Speaker 5 (22:55):
Right, I might not have the success, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:57):
And you might not have the twenty twenty high sight
to be able to say, you know, I'm going to
have more fun now.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
I mean, you're Tom Brady.
Speaker 4 (23:04):
You can have more fun now, and you can say
pretty much within reason, anything you want to say, and
there's going to have some sense. There's gonna have some
sensibility to it. I mean in my estimation of it.
So I don't I don't listen. I'd rather recall Tom
Brady's career the way that I recall it, like personally, selfishly,
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someone who came through the ranks with him.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
We were in the same.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
Draft class, littermate. I would rather remember. I would rather
remember him knowing that we were killers out there on
the field. He was in the Serengetti for real. He
wasn't out there with you know, toothless, you know, lines
and tigers and bears.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
He was out there with we had fangs. Yeah, yeah,
we had fangs.
Speaker 4 (23:51):
And these guys these days, you know why they're having
so much fun and joking around and cann act us.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Ain't nobody hit them. They're not allowed to get hit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
So so Tom, I'll say this, I like remembering you
the way I remember you.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I don't I don't need to remember you as this
guy that was always key.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Keying and joking and laughing, laughing and hooting and hollering
while you were playing the game. Nah, you were out
there to win a game. You were out there to compete.
And I like that.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
That's a great point though, too, about how much the
game's changed of the course that he played. I mean,
he was born into an era of football where and
he's talked about it like you couldn't throw across the
middle because you'll be hanging your wide receiver out to dry,
you know, like protection of a wide receiver. And now
he's considered defenseless when he's in the active catching.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
That was on the onus was on the quarterback, you know.
Speaker 7 (24:43):
But before they had that rule, it was an unwritten
rule for quarterbacks, like you don't hang your wide receiver
out to dry.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (24:50):
I can't tell you how.
Speaker 7 (24:51):
Many times I've seen a ball be thrown behind a
wide receiver and you know the competition.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Oh it's an inaccurate throw by Gosh Johnson. Look at that.
It's like, no, oh, you idiot.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
He was trying to stop him for getting blown up
because the wide receiver ran through the window and zone coverage,
or he's running into another defender. He's trying to put
on his back shoulder, but the wide receiver.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Has no feel. And that's where you come in a court.
Speaker 7 (25:17):
You come in a quarterback room and you start to
really understand like why they do what they do and.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
It's and it's natural.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
But nowadays the receivers get the protection, so quarterbacks can
take a lot bigger risks.
Speaker 5 (25:29):
But with that.
Speaker 7 (25:29):
Comes some of the hits that you're seeing when these
guys get knocked out. And I think that seriousness of
how the game was played maybe plays a role in
it too, where you couldn't be as carefree and run
around as throw the ball up and be like somebody's
down there somewhere. You know, like that wasn't a thing
it is now because the way the way the rules changed.
But I think that's like a plays a part or role.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
In this too.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Well, I'd rather regret not working.
Speaker 5 (25:55):
God bless you.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Straight turned it off, yeah and still got it damn powerful,
all right, blow.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
It out, blow it out. I mean it was. It's
a little dusty and it's some dustimate test.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
Jonas told me you got powerful lungs that you can
breath through your ears.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
That is very true. That's a great point. That's very
point and class personified right there from Brady Quinn. What
very nice of you to bless me, you know, thank you,
by the way. That is a skill set that comes
in handy and a lot of walks of life. I'll
tell you that you know able to do that. Being
able to bless somebody now through yours is.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Trying to turn the wheel into the car, and that
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
I'm simply, I simply.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
A guy can't say, God bless you to look work
associate and tang.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
I'm simply I'm sidly trying to I'm.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
Not.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
Now, let me ask you this, wouldn't you rather wouldn't
you rather regret not smiling than look back and go, oh,
I wish it would have worked harder. I smiled quite
a bit on the football field.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
I don't think that's what he's saying. Just because you
smile doesn't mean you're not working.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah, but a smile like you're having a good time.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
No, I think it's what should he soaked it up more?
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, and like joked around and clowned around a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
What it sounds like you spend a minute clowning around,
it's a minute you take away from hard work.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
No, his and his era, a minute of clowning around
could have costed him a season because I was trying
to Guys like me were trying to rip your head
off or your leg off and take it with us,
like I wanted to beat you over to your sideline
with your own arm. And some people like some people
(27:43):
ain't ready for the getty. That's correct, that's right, they're
not ready for it. And you know what it's. It's
a modified it's a modified Ai Serengetti.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Now in the NFL, it's modified.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
Instead of instead of taking down your prey and taking
the life out of it and eating it, now you
just you tag it or you pull a flag off
of it, and it's like, all right, you're dead, Like
you know, we get to eat you now.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
But not really. Are you saying Pete is running around
out there?
Speaker 4 (28:12):
I guess so, man, are you how does Peter feel
about another animal that kills another animal?
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Are you calling it? Are you calling it vegan football?
Is that what you're calling?
Speaker 5 (28:20):
Do you know?
Speaker 4 (28:21):
That's very well put? I think that's very well stated.
Vegan football. Damn, this is now what it is out there,
vegan football, AI, vegan football.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Being well Brady Brady's talking about having so many concussions anything, but.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
That was part of it.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
Man.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
That was an older, older school way of looking at football.
It's like how hard could you get hit and get
back up and play through it?
Speaker 4 (28:51):
And you had to have your your mental mindset ready
for that. I think that's why cats weren't joking around
so much, right, I mean honestly, like, that's that's to
be able to take somebody down, Like, Okay, you want
to go in laughing and joking and stuff, and you
got to hit your own Bettis and and by the way,
(29:12):
he has you know, this guy blocking for him in
front of him, or you got to go against Sam
Gash this week, or Lorenzo O'Neil, you got to meet
him in the hole and they might it might be
a long day of la day and Tomlinson, you want
to laugh and joke about that, go be my guest.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Who is the worst fall back you ever went up against?
I mean, Zoe is the like Zoe and gash like that.
I mean, that's it's like hitting. It's like hitting a
brick wall. Like imagine you have to run into.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
A brick wall to do your job full speed, hit
it with your shoulder in the side of your head.
That's what it fit. That's what it felt like. And
you might ask, well, have you ever hit a brick wall?
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (29:53):
I have, Actually I've tried it. Didn't like it. But
that's the equivalent. Is like hitting like you're hitting an
immovable force. Is that is that correctly stated?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
It's not.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
It's a lot of man and it's a lot. And
the way they had, especially Zoe, the way he had
his shoulder pads built up and the way he was built.
He would you guys, remember he man like the what
was the dude that you used to smash down and
then he jumped back up?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
He's like whack him on? Is that who it was?
Speaker 5 (30:24):
He was?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Like?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
He was just he was strong built dude, but he
had no neck and you could press him down and
then he that was like Zoe. He had no neck.
It was like just the top part of a helmet,
all pads, all legs. That that was it, and it
was It was bad. And I'm not laughing about that.
I'm not. I'm not coming into that joking about that. Like,
(30:46):
I'm not. We got a thump and one of us
is going to give in, and whoever gives in, it's
gonna make that the day that much longer for the
person who gives in. There's no joking about that. So
I just but I don't feel like they had that.
They don't even have fullbacks anymore, and they don't even
pay tailback. So it's like kind of like what do
you care?
Speaker 5 (31:06):
You know they've they've got fullbacks channel. I'm just saying, well,
use checks one.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I'm just going to the dude for Baltimore. Oh yeah,
what's he like? Three fifty?
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
What is? What are the measurables on him?
Speaker 7 (31:20):
I think about this on the backfield, Ricard behind that
offensive line, which is one of the bigger in the NFL,
and then Derrick Henry now and then imagine like you've
gotta worry about that, LeVar, then you have to worry
about Lamar Jackson, who's the greatest athlete a quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Which they didn't even do that back in our day, right,
they weren't doing They weren't doing that that type of
RPO type of stuff back then.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
He just you go from having to get through one
mac truck to tackle another mac truck and then, by
the way, there's a dude driving for a Ferrari that
might be able to just scoot it right around the.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
End like that is.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
I can't, by the way, not to get off on
a tangent. I can't wait to see what the Ravens
offense looks like this.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
Yeah, just until the championship weekend though. Oh man, so
Patrick Riccardo.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
Patrick ricard is six three three eleven Derrick Henry's six
three two fifty.
Speaker 7 (32:17):
That's really cbated athlete Patrick riccard Like he moves extremely
well for that size.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Is that the imagine having to deal with that?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
All right? So what was the That's what I'm saying.
You're not laughing going into a game like ha, who
look at hell ha ha?
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Like no, I'm making myself, mad, I'm coming in infuriated.
Speaker 5 (32:38):
Is it better getting a car accident or something? Pissed off?
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (32:41):
You slapped me? Come on, move like like John Anderson,
is that a Is that the biggest backfield next to
Christian Okoye, Barry Word, Kevin Mack? Who is the the
other Browns running back? Is it Metcalf? Metcalf? And yeah,
so we're looking at the biggest a field potentially.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
And then.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Well I was thinking because I thought it was it's
not that.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Big either for the I mean, he's not three eleven, dude?
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Was it was it Ernest Biner? Like, who's the other back?
Speaker 5 (33:11):
I'm just saying even then, like three eleven as a fullback?
Speaker 2 (33:14):
And that's that's unheard.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
It was very word.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I don't think there's ever been a running back that's
three hundred pounds.
Speaker 5 (33:21):
Throw some other old players in there, Jonas.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Johnson, you love it. I mean Jerome Bettis is seventy
pounds more.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
Jonas Like, there's no comparison.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Christian okoy two fifty three. Yeah, you got it. Listen,
it's we're looking at history here. We've got we've got history.
And no let me just because listen, I'm gonna find
a loop here. Hold on, let's uh, what do you do?
Even even William Perry was three thirty five, so even
if you threw him in the back.
Speaker 4 (33:52):
Yeah, but I mean that's like, that's like when they
threw Warrnant Sap in the back like that, they're not
running back them in there.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
So well, here's the problem. I'm trying to find a
flaw in the Derek Henry Patrick Ricard backfield because I
have the Ravens not making the playoffs. So oh wow,
that feels like that could be a problem that could
issues there. So and by the way, maybe that's why
Lamar Jackson did lose weight because he's like, you know what,
I don't want the field to till that much, so
I'd rather come in slim and kind of even things
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out there.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
Speaking of you should hear Jonas's belly right now.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
God, I haven't eaten in a long time.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
That thing is upset too. Yeah, yeah, it's very very run.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Right side note, side note, because I no offense to Johns.
I don't want to talk about a stomach.
Speaker 7 (34:40):
If you if everyone's been watching in Copa America and
like UEFA, but Copa America in particular because all the
games are being played in like these NFL stadiums. Have
you noticed something like the stadiums that have turf, they
get grass.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
For these Has anyone noticed that?
Speaker 7 (34:57):
And it's like, well, we're willing to do it for
these on off soccer events, but we're not willing to
do it for the eight or nine games for football players.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
We've got a home. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
It's correct. They've earned it, they've earned the right. You know,
they're visiting, so it looks like it's the house is
always cleaner when you have guests over right, you know,
like it's never that clean when it's just you and
your family hanging out. So when the guests come over,
the in laws come over, you always make sure everything
looks spotless. And that's what these NFL owners are doing,
all right, So good for them. I why should they
have to pay a premium just to make sure that
(35:30):
their their players are healthy and no issues whatsoever. So
is what it is? All right? Two pros and a
cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington,
Brady Quinn, Jonas NOx with you. We are going to
have our MIDWEK Awards coming up. Here shortly for all
the latest of them around the world of sports. He
is Eddie Garcia.
Speaker 11 (35:47):
I would have never believed that LeVar Arrington and I
have something in common on the football field. Okay, why not,
But apparently it's true. Going up against Lorenzo O'Neil, Yeah, wow,
I went up against him in high school.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Oh you played against him a high school? I did,
really did? Yeah, how'd that go?
Speaker 5 (36:07):
Well?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well? Uh, the same person back then?
Speaker 11 (36:11):
Well, younger, yes, but uh he was.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
He was.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
He was definitely stronger than me. It's definitely faster than me.
I was a sinner and he was a linebacker and
uh yeah, that did not go well, did not go well.
He was also like a he was a championship wrestler
as well.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
So which which high school he played?
Speaker 11 (36:31):
He played at More High School in Central California.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Oh man, yeah, yeah, well you live to tell about it.
Speaker 11 (36:38):
I did, and I'm happy about that. And then I
went to school with him at Fresleo State. But then
I didn't play football anymore. He did, so he was.
He's uh, he was amazing.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
Uh.
Speaker 11 (36:46):
If the fullback ever gets in the Hall of Fame,
I I'd love to see him get in, but I
don't know if that's ever gonna happen.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
He should, he should get so fullbacks never gotten in
the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 11 (36:55):
I don't believe not a true blocking back, right, I mean,
if you're gonna get punk there, right, can we get
a blocking.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
Bag Goost Johnson couldn't get in there at least or nope?
Speaker 11 (37:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Wow, all right, Lorenzo Neil is easily on that list
a short list the greatest fullbacks of all time.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
So it's a good point. Yeah, it's a good point,
all right.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
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Speaker 2 (37:27):
It's about that time every Wednesday morning. We turn it
over to the Old Pe Petros Papadakis. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy LA Sports.
He's also a Fox College Football analyst and you can
get him on Twitter again at the Old Pe Petros.
(37:49):
Good morning, Happy, I don't know, early fourth July to you.
Speaker 5 (37:52):
And yours, Oh thank you, Yes, fourth of July.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
What a holiday good morning, certainly is I can't.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Wait for my fireworks show to be canceled and turned
into a drone show, a lay.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
Mass drone show.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
You don't like drones, not compared to fireworks. Is that
happening now?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, everything's getting canceled, all the firework shows and turned
into drone shows.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Racist or something? What happened?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
But no, yes, actually probably because they're they're connected to
the environment and climate change, so they made the insurance
so difficult to get that a lot of these firework
companies can't afford to put on these shows, and they
cancel them and all this and there's a clamber to
find live free fireworks. Some of the old shows that
(38:40):
have been going for like seventy years are canceled in town.
Some of them are on like July second or July fifth,
which doesn't make sense, but here we are anyway, Yes,
happy early fourth way to go.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I am Petros. Brownie was introduced yesterday to the.
Speaker 5 (38:58):
Meeting in five am.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Thing is not as savory I gotta be. Was this
a brilliant idea of the general patent of sports talk radio.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
Lee de Lap, the flatulent Lee de Lap.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Yeah, yeah, this, guys, I mean, I am just, I
am less. I'm a lot more ornery and anyway, it's
something we can discuss well.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
I mean, listen, I think that's perfect. It's a perfect
segue to Bronnie James. I mean, I don't know if
you saw that, Petros, but he was introduced to Let
me read you today.
Speaker 5 (39:34):
Let me read you a couple of today's headlines.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Yes, just think about this tomorrow's headlines today.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I've heard that somewhere.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Number one. The Lakers are proud to announce that thirty
seven year old Savannah James, wife of Lebron, is the
organization's new chief financial officer. Team owner Jeanie Buss said,
Savannah's previous job experience is unpair tank. That's that's tomorrow's headline, Thursday.
Are you ready for Friday's headline? The Lakers have announced
(40:08):
that nine year old Zuri James, daughter of Lebron, has
earned a spot on the twenty four to twenty five
Lakers Girls squad. Team owner Genie Buss said, we've had
our eye on Zuri since she was in the first grade,
and we believe she's now ready to take the Laker
Girls to new Heights tank a couple of headlines that
(40:30):
are very believable at this point, and yeah, they introduced Browny,
that poor connect guy. They're sitting there with the guy
who was their their first round pick, who played at
a JC, then Northern Colorado, then took an ni AL
(40:50):
deal at Tennessee, was one of the best performing players
in the SEC, if not the best player in the SEC,
and he's sitting there with his Bama bangs listening to
them talk about how Bronnie James quote unquote earned this,
and JJ Reddick talked down to everybody about how this
is earned and this is everybody who says it otherwise
(41:13):
is a troglodyte or some kind of philistine, and we're
all just supposed to accept it. I mean, guys, it's
been a lifetime of watching Lebron James be a great player,
and somewhere in there he became this manipulator of rosters
(41:33):
and firer of coaches and all of these different things
that have been alleged and alleged and alleged over the years.
I'm know Lebron historian. I'm not one of those people
that knows the play by play of what went down
between him and Eric Spolstra, or what went down between
him and Kyrie Irving, or what went down between him and.
Speaker 5 (41:55):
Pat Riley, or what went down.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
You know, all of these people all over the years
that all of these things that we've had reported. I'm
not one of those people that has a real grip
or a handle on that, you know, that can tell
you exactly the timeline of what happened. But all you
need to know is this, here's a guy with an
incredible reputation for manipulation and doing stuff behind the scenes
(42:21):
and then acting as if he has nothing to do
with it, and the Lakers have fired their coach, they
have hired a guy with zero coaching experience, zero coaching
experience to be the new head coach who happens to
be Lebron's podcast partner. And then they just happened to
draft his son with a general consensusus not an NBA prospect.
(42:45):
And then they just happened to put his son on
the roster and then tell everybody what a holes they
are for dissension and saying, well, this owner hired this
son to be a scout or every football coach I've
ever known has this kid as a tight end coach. Yeah,
that's different. Uh that that is not the meritocracy of
(43:08):
the field of play or the court in this case,
and there is something about it. Look, I didn't I
don't care who the Lakers draft in the second round,
Like I've never cared about that before. But when I
heard him say Bronnie's name, even though it was a
fata compli or a foregone conclusion, it grossed me out.
It disgusted me. And now this the the aftermath of
(43:32):
sitting there and JJ Reddick's like, I just want to
clarify Bronni has earned this, and it's like, it's not
this kid's fault. He's just sitting up there doing whatever
he's doing because this is exactly what his dad wants.
And everybody's gonna do whatever they can to make it happen.
And maybe in the world of the NBA you can
earn that and make that. I mean, I guess you can,
(43:55):
but man, it is it is a gross thing to watch,
and it's gonna be an all so long story with
the summer League and you know, any weird thing that happens.
I mean, you think Victor wembyden yeam, I'm knocking Britney
spears over with his bodyguard as a story, wait till
the Summer League pops off? Meg My god, I thought
Mountain West Media Day was a big story.
Speaker 7 (44:16):
So so Petro's one of the things that I've kind
of read in regards to people's comments about this entire
situation is well, if it's to get Lebron back, so what. Well,
And you could say so what, but like the Bucks
brought in. You know, Giannis's brother, he's twenty six.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
I get that.
Speaker 7 (44:37):
But you know some people would say, like, all right,
you know how how does that kind of work out?
Speaker 3 (44:42):
I mean, he's going to get Yanni's to the freaking
place on time, you know, make sure he's.
Speaker 5 (44:48):
There, you know that kind of thing. I get that.
Speaker 3 (44:50):
And it's Milwaukee, you know the you know that all
of these pushback arguments. Fine, if that's what it takes
to have an NBA franchise, and you.
Speaker 5 (45:02):
Have to have you have star. You have to have
a star.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
You can't rebuild, you can't do it right, you can't
do it like anybody else. You have to have a
star that manipulates everything, polarizes the whole city, bastardizes the brand,
makes Laker fans feel like they're not Laker fans anymore.
Speaker 5 (45:18):
I get so many.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Freaking text tweets people saying, I used to be a
Laker fan. I didn't even like Kobe, but I was
still a Laker fan. But this Lebron thing, it's over.
I'm done.
Speaker 5 (45:32):
Is this the worst thing that's happened to the Lakers
in your lifetime?
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Or what you can read it is, it's the grossest
thing they've ever done. It's amazing because this has all
happened in like a two week period where Jerry West died,
who really was one of the most honorable men in
the way front office works and the way you deal
with players, all of these things, and who he was
as a player and a front office guy, Hall of
(45:58):
Fame all the way through, and Genie Buss banned him
from the Lakers. They had terrible feelings and the sentiment
toward Jerry West in the world of basketball and in
this town. When people hear that Genie Buss did that,
they're infuriated. And that's like a story that just came
(46:20):
out around this same time, and under the backdrop of
the Celtics, who are the Lakers big rival, just pulling
ahead in the championship count race, and one of those
Lakers championships is the Bubble Championship, so whatever.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
But I think that the Jerry West snub.
Speaker 3 (46:45):
Or what they allowed to happen with their relationship with
Jerry West and this allowed manipulation from Lebron James are
two of the darkest days or moments in Laker franchise history,
no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (47:02):
Is that a good answer? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (47:03):
Yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (47:04):
I mean, I mean, I think, yeah, this is probably
the grossest thing they've ever done, because it's not so
much what they're doing, it's like, Okay, this is what
you need to do to keep Lebron, all right, fine,
do it, tell everybody you're doing it.
Speaker 5 (47:17):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:18):
We all just get nailed by the king anyway around here.
But it's the fact that they have these deployed army
of media people who are either on the payroll literally
or on the emotional payroll, where they think it's the
cool thing to do to tell everybody the Lebron's a
better father than the rest of us, and any good
(47:39):
father would do this for his son.
Speaker 2 (47:41):
What excuse me, I wouldn't do it for myself exactly.
Speaker 4 (47:44):
I mean, guys, is there any chance that Bronny can
play himself out of the situation that they've drafted him into.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Yes, and a lot of expert but you know, that's
the whole thing. I mean, this whole thing has been
done backward. Here's but that that would have happened years
years ago. That decision should have been made years ago.
If he wanted to stay in LA, he should have
gone and played at UC Irvine or a place like that. Develop, learn, fight,
(48:17):
become an all conference type of player by the time
you're a junior or a senior, and then earn your
draft status. You know, sure you might get drafted a
little higher than you should have been because you're a Lebron's.
Speaker 5 (48:27):
Son, but earn it. That's earning it, right.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
Or stay at USC and see what Eric Musselman is
gonna do, or transfer, transfer to Quinnipiac or whatever where
Lebron's friend is coaching.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Like, fight, earn it, make it work.
Speaker 7 (48:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (48:44):
He was not an impact player on a bad USC team.
And they turned around yesterday and tried to blame the
USC for that, and it's like, no, you handpicked that school,
you manipulated that situation.
Speaker 5 (48:58):
It didn't work out for you.
Speaker 3 (49:00):
And of course it's somebody else's fault. He could play
himself into being an NBA rotation player according to some experts.
But I mean, I'm not a draft expert. But when
you're six foot one and you don't have a handle
enough to play point guard, and you don't shoot enough
to play shooting guard and you're only six y' one,
(49:21):
how are you going to switch off on defense? What
are you doing out there?
Speaker 4 (49:27):
You know?
Speaker 3 (49:27):
I mean, I don't know. And also what does it
do to the dynamic of your team? You know, everybody
in that organization is used to being nailed by the king,
But like as far as the court, the competition part
of it, that everybody's going to have to just absorb this.
How does that work? I don't know, I really don't.
(49:50):
I mean, the eye rolling must be off the charts.
Speaker 5 (49:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (49:53):
What does it do to the dynamic of your own
culture if you even have one? And JJ Reddick sitting
there talking about I'm going to install culture and we're
going to build out a holistic player development program and
you know, using all these weird big words for you know,
the same thing we've known about for years on how
(50:14):
to prepare a basketball team or a sports team for anything.
Apparently he's got some new innovative way. But I mean,
let me ask you guys a question. How do you
install a culture with a forty year old superstar quasar
guy who controls everything, who just drafted his son and
gave him a guaranteed place on the roster, and then
everybody sits there and tells you he has nothing to
(50:35):
do with it. That's what insults me that they just
sit there and tell you straight face that they didn't
even talk to Lebron and he's got almost nothing to
do with this, and we're just supposed to sit there
and wear it. And I don't like it. I mean
I didn't think i'd care that much. I'm more excited
about the college football season getting started and how weird
it's going to be. But yeah, this situation I don't like.
(51:00):
I don't like it at all.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
I mean, we'll never hear this because he controls so
much of the media coverage that goes on and the
story surrounding it. But they've got to be the laughing
stock of the league right now. I mean, Klay Thompson, well, it.
Speaker 5 (51:13):
Hurts the credibility on the NBA.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
Yes, it does. And it's also like there's probably people
around the league that are going in. I don't want
any part of that. Like, I wonder if Klay Thompson
looked at the situation was like, listen, my dad played here.
I grew up a Laker fan. I love the franchise. Yeah,
they're offering me a lot of money. And then the
spin on it is well, the state tax in Texas
(51:36):
and you know, a chance to play for It's like no.
I wonder if he looked at it and said.
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Well, we know Michael Thompson pretty well. Yeah, Michael used
to work with us when I first started working at Well,
actually he got the job over me many years ago.
I auditioned for that job, and I was told by
Steve Hartman, who works on weekends at Fox Sports, rabo,
oh yeah, when it was in my twenties, you're gonna
get it. You're in the lead. You're gonna get this job.
(52:03):
You get this job right now.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
It's a four gone conclusion his jown.
Speaker 3 (52:09):
And I was like, damn, you know, I'm gonna get
that job. I'm gonna be the loose cannon. You know,
I'm gonna be with Steve Hartman and it was the
longest running show in town and all that stuff. And
around that time, the Lakers ended up signing with five
seventy uh and they ended up hiring Michael as their
color guy, and it ended up just going that way
(52:31):
at least that's what they told me. And he's a
wonderful guy. I ended up at that station doing the
afternoon drive show and which I'm still doing. And we
love Michael. I mean, Michael was so much fun to
be around, even though he was a Kobe and Lebron
ball washer and all that.
Speaker 5 (52:50):
He was great.
Speaker 3 (52:51):
But what Matt and I, my radio partner, thought was
like Michael, who's a Bahamian guy, was like, you know,
you got to your Lika and then like behind the scenes,
you know, openly in the papers and stuff.
Speaker 5 (53:07):
And you know, I want him to be a Lika.
I love this fruntchise.
Speaker 3 (53:11):
And then like like deep down, like you know, in
his son's ear when he's hugging him.
Speaker 5 (53:16):
Get a fire. Wee as you can. Lebron is destroyed, displace,
you know, run son, run boy. But uh, I think
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (53:32):
I don't know what happened there, but I think Michael
might have winked at him a little bit. I don't
know I would have if I were him, but you
have to sit there. I mean, he's been working for
the Lakers for decades. The Lakers changed his life when
they when they traded him in and he won a
championship with Magic and all them over the Celtics. I mean,
Michael is a life for Laker. But I wouldn't want
(53:53):
my son in that situation. I mean, if your son
plays well, then great, Lebron made your son play well.
If your son fails or you guys don't win, whatever,
then it's his fault that he ruined Lebron's career and
he's wrecking the end of Lebron's legacy. I mean, it's
getting old, and it's been decades of just getting nailed
(54:16):
by the King, and I don't know, I feel like
people are tired of it. Everybody except for that toad
fat guy in Cleveland.
Speaker 7 (54:23):
Jesus Petros you mentioned earlier just about college football starting up.
Speaker 5 (54:30):
We do have media days starting next week. Talk to me.
It was going to Mountain West with me. Who's going
to Bay.
Speaker 7 (54:36):
I'll be out there, baby, I'll be out there with
and the two pack that's what I'm calling the pack
coming to the pack.
Speaker 5 (54:41):
Two. I got invited to the pack to dinner. You
didn't get to take forty five minutes. You a whole.
You didn't get that email. I did. I got that
emails on that email, Petros, and I got the follow
up email from my boss which says, you'll be at this.
It'll be you, me and about for the people. Yeah,
John Canzano, John Wilner, maybe the ghost of Yogi. It
(55:07):
all sails life.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
The email literally is like, by the bye, while you're
in Vegas, while you're in town for the Las Vegas
Grateful Dead at the Sphere and the Mountain West media Day.
Speaker 5 (55:18):
Why don't you bop on over to the Blagio and
spend the evening with the pac two.
Speaker 7 (55:24):
Betros, you have coined the phrase bacon caller, I believe
in regards to I'm not sure if those are the
draft or commoh the bacon neck Yeah yeah, bacon Excuse me, no,
tell me what people are missing out on at these
media days.
Speaker 5 (55:38):
Paid a picture for us. Your experience is going to
these what they're missing out, what you'll be seeing there.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Well, you know, my very first job ever at the
age of twenty three, right out of USC was to
interview Deshan Foster, who's now the head coach at UCLA,
at the PAC ten Media Day, which used to be
at the Sheraton, the Airport Sheraton for many years in
Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (56:03):
And if you haven't seen Chip Kelly.
Speaker 3 (56:05):
Have a meltdown because they won't bring his valet car there,
then you haven't lived.
Speaker 5 (56:10):
But what is it like? I mean?
Speaker 3 (56:12):
For me at these they usually bring me into a
what did they call a breakout room, which is like,
you know, some little beating room in a hotel, and
the different coaches all come to me and for ten
minutes apiece and tell me their problems like a psychiatrist,
and then I go home.
Speaker 5 (56:30):
That's usually what it's like.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
And there's a few radio shows set up like Weenie
in the Butt, you know or whatever, and that's a.
Speaker 5 (56:40):
Family guy thing.
Speaker 2 (56:42):
I love that show.
Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yeah, who was the other show? They had?
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Dingo and the Baby. Oh, you guys have a lot
of shows. You guys have the nighttime show Fat Head
and Clean Dome.
Speaker 5 (56:59):
Though not heard of any of this, it's a good one.
Jason Smith, the Fat Head and Clean Dome show.
Speaker 3 (57:05):
You have the New York Mailbox Head Show, Mailbox Head
and Mailbox Covino and Rich.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
Anyway, the point is, uh, oh no, oh no, what
were we talking about. Who cares the media days?
Speaker 1 (57:20):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (57:20):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (57:21):
They set up like it's like Jeff Schwartz, you know
Jeff Schwartz, that big ass lineman guy.
Speaker 5 (57:26):
Yes, yeah, he just sits there and it's like.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
Well, you know, I really like yeah, he also works here.
Speaker 5 (57:31):
We've got more of a zone feel here. Hey, I
like this. Just look at this power action. No, it's
just a lot like that.
Speaker 3 (57:40):
It's all the media guys sitting around and bs and
and it's not there's nothing wrong with it. I actually
like the media days because you see people, you catch
up with people, you give people a hug, you're physically
in front of people.
Speaker 5 (57:54):
I like that.
Speaker 3 (57:54):
I've always liked that people look fat, people look skinny.
Do you say anything to people who look skinny?
Speaker 5 (58:01):
He used to look fat? Do you say, oh he lost? Wait?
You guys remember Jim Herrick.
Speaker 3 (58:06):
He's still alive. One of the great college basketball coaches.
A couple of controversies here and there, but he was
the head coach at Morningside High School many years ago,
where Byron Scott and Lisa Leslie and people like that
played not he wasn't their coach, but then he went
to Pepperdine and then he won a championship at UCLA
in the nineties. Anyway, if you ever saw Jim Herrick,
(58:28):
and he's very old and he's very popular, so he
probably doesn't remember your name, but you could tell if
you were fat or not, just by the way Jim
Herrick greeted you, right, because if you were skinny, he'd say, hey, stick,
how's it going stick? And you'd be like, wow, okay,
I'm a stick. And then if you're fat, all he
(58:50):
would say is very is very is and you're like,
oh no, I was stick last time last.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
It's like damn uh.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
Get him on Twitter at the old p Petros, Papadegas,
the Coast of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch and five seventy l a
Sports Fox college football analyst, also our buddy every Wednesday
morning here on fsr PE. We appreciate it. We'll do
it again next week.
Speaker 5 (59:26):
All right, I appreciate you guys right there, thank you
for having me there.
Speaker 2 (59:32):
He goes bright and early at eight Eastern time, five
o'clock Pacific
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