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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Wednesday edition, we've got boots on the
ground coverage of Big twelve media days. You've got somebody
speaking highly of the conference and somebody else sticking up
for one of their players. Yeah, maybe not the greatest
approach though. We're also going to have some conversation about
Dak Prescott and the walking Boot. How serious is it?
(00:23):
If you're wondering whether or not Jacksonville's got a coach
on the hot seat, we can confirm based on these
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Speaker 1 (05:15):
As Brady Quinn mentioned, he is live in Las Vegas,
boots on the ground, and we've got Big twelve Media Days.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know, Brownie's out there too, by the way, you know,
say what's up to me while you're there? In a coincidence, Yeah,
you know, I'm.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
We got a little bit of everything out here in
Las Vegas right now. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Big twelve Media Days are going on right now. USA
Basketball is here as well as the summer leagues. So
trust me, it is jam packed. Got to see a
bunch of different people last night. It was fun though
it was a really good day. It reminds you just
how big Vegas can be and yet host a number
of big events and with a ton of different people
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and you still don't see everyone like you still feel
like there's a bunch of different stuff going on.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So with that being said, the big takeaway from Big
twelve Media Days because we do have a little bit
from Brett yor Mark, the Big twelve commissioner who was
there kind of talking about the situation with the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But I'll be honest with you, he got me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
A little fired up here because he was letting everybody know,
while the Big Ten and the SEC get all the
love and everybody's a big fan of those two conferences,
here was the Big Twelve commissioner putting his chest out
and letting everybody know what the deal.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Is with the Big Twelve.
Speaker 10 (06:32):
We are truly a national conference in ten states, four
time zones, and all eyes are now on the Big
Twelve for all the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And I think it's safe to say we are more
relevant now than ever before.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Damn right, we're talking about there, way to go, screw
you Texas at Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Let's make college football great a game.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
That's a man.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
They're trying to keep up with the times.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know, everybody's moving, everybody's jocking for positioning to try
and you know, create these super conferences, and there he
is kind of standing on it and welcoming all these
new teams in and letting everybody know they're kind of
wan won a little bite of the apple here.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Good for him, you're there, cut what you got.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I was gonna say, say what you guys want.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Brett Yormark is to me the most progressive conference commissioner
there is, and I think he has to be given
us role within the Big twelve because it's not the
Big Ten, it's not the SEC which clearly have a
strong stakehold, given the brands that they've got, given the
TV contracts that they have, you know, with their respective
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TV partners.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
It's just not the same.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
And so he has to think outside the box, and
he has whether it's the naming rights of the league itself,
whether it's private equity, all the things that he's done.
But like being here in Las Vegas, one of the
things that it's a clear difference at least from, for example,
the PAC twelve, which is still having its event today
even though it's two teams in Washington State and Oregon State,
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which we can get to it another time, but they's
just a clear distinction between how things are run. I mean,
the event was flawless, the press conference, the way he
answers questions, even tough questions. I mean, the biggest thing
I take away from all this is bigger picture college football.
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There's definitely still more questions than answers, you know, when
it comes to realignment, when it comes to revenue share
with student athletes, how they look at it from a
conference standpoint, how they look at it from a school standpoint,
all those things are still so undetermined and no one
has the answers yet. But I would say this, Brett
Yormark is one of the most thoughtful people about how
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it's going to work. And I think he's going to
be a great person to lead the Big twelve and
figure out where college football is going.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I don't think there's any doubt about it. When you
talk to him, get a sense of it.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
And I'll go as far as saying this, if he
was the commissioner of the PAC twelve, there would actually
be a PAC twelve, and you probably would have seen
not you know what's what happened to the Big twelve
as far as its expansion bringing in more teams, that
probably would have been the PAC twelve had he been
that conference commissioner. You probably would have seen the Big
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twelve decimated and the PAC twelve would have had all
the growth all the.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Teams come to it had he been the commissioner there.
So he has done a.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Tremendous job building up the Big twelve and keeping it
relevant amongst the Big ten and SEC, who are the
two biggest stakeholders.
Speaker 11 (09:37):
If that's If that's the case, then what happens to
the Big ten because the Big ten pillage the PAC twelve.
What happens to the Big ten if if he goes
to the PAC twelve and pillages the big Big twelve?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
How would that How would that play out?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And your estimate still seeing you probably would have still
seen you know, USC UCLA, you know, maybe would have gone,
and maybe those two other schools. But I'm saying you
don't see Utah migrate, Colorado migrate, Arizona State migrate, Arizona migrate.
Those four probably stay in the PAC twelve. You probably
get teams that he pulls from the Big twelve into
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the PAC twelve.
Speaker 12 (10:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
So right there you've got six teams with other four
staying and he might even you know, bring in another
six or eight to make a bit to make that conference.
So they might have still lost those teams regardless, just
because at this point, schools are going to do what
they feel like is in their best interest.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
One of the hot topics is always Florida State, because
it's it's not a secret. We know that they want
to get out of the ACC. It's just a matter
of how. And I think the way I see it
is none of these schools want it to be a
grant of rights issue. They'd like it to be an
optionality issue. I mean, there's not something that has to
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go challenge the grant of rights because in the ACC
that thing's pretty iron clad and it's in there for
a long period of time. But they know there might
be a challenge legally too. Do they have the optionality
they need to succeed and to be able to compete?
And if they don't, there might be a case that
they should be able to be let out of the
ACC of that conference for that reason.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
And so that's gonna be the interesting thing to keep
an eye on moving forward.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, I'll go you got to go, Okay, Well, I
just wanted to say that. You know, somebody was the
talk of Big twelve media days not named Brady Quinn
while they were there in Las Vegas, and that was
none other than Mike Gundhy, the Oklahoma State head coach.
To little backstory here on the discussion here when it
comes to Mike Gundy. So Ollie Gordon, who's the best
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running back in college football, won the Dokee Walker last year,
was arrested for a DUI on June thirtieth and yeah, So,
I mean he was celebrating your birthday.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And that's how I got popped for the Dewey there
on June thirtieth.
Speaker 12 (11:53):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, Mike Gundy wanted him to come to Big
twelve media days and to face the music a little bit.
And Mike Gundy also talked about just sort of his
thinking when hearing about the news of one of his
best players getting the DUI just a couple of weeks
or a few weeks back, so.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I looked it up on my phone.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
What would be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point
eight and Ollie was point one. So I looked it
up and it was based on body weight. Not to
get into the legal side of it, but I thought,
really two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying
what all he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well,
I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
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my life, and I'm you know, it's just fine.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
So I got lucky. People get lucky.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Alli made a decision that he wished he could have
done better. But when I talked to Ollie, I told
him said, you're lucky you got out, like because you
make a lot of money. To play football. So back
in the day, being able to cover the cost of
what he's going to go through would be difficult for
a college player.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
It's not for him.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Now I'm not speaking for him, but I'm just saying
that's not an issue for him. So nobody got hurt.
And I said, we see people doing this and people
losing their lives across the country, not just football players
but everybody.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
So you got out lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So he then took the social media afterwards and put
my intended point today a big twelve media days was
that we are all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not a reference to something specific. I just think
he would being a little too honest when he probably
should have given a PC answer, and nobody.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Would have thought two things about it. That's a that'll though,
That's not I.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Think this is. This is twofold, all right. So let
me first say this.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
This is by design that he brings Ali Gordon to
the Big twelve many days for starters. The guy won
the Doak Walker last year. He led the nation rushing,
so he is a leader on that team. There's no
doubt about it. I had the chance to sit down
with the young man he's a great kid, you know,
he's a great young man. We really didn't talk much
about the mistake, but he, you know, talked about the
fact that he I made a mistake. I want to
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own up for it and get past it, because if
you address it now, then after this it really doesn't
become anything other than just football moving forward. So there's
definitely something to that. I think, you know, bringing him
here after making the mistake is by design. To me,
there's also brilliance in it because most people take away
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from the Big twelve media day, even having Ollie Gordon
here with what is transpired was Mike Gundy's comments. It's
like the focus shifts on Mike Gundy now because of
what he says. And I don't know if it's by design,
if it's a tactic, but I think it's brilliant if
it is the fact that you say something that goes
viral so much so that instead of your player taking
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the heat, you end up taking the attention and taking
the heat, which I love, you know, because that's the
one thing that you'll hear all the players. Alan Bowman,
their quarterback who was there as well yesterday sporting quite
the mo ustash but you hear them talk about Mike
Geby as a father figure to them, you know, how
they look up to him, how he does at times,
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you know, take take the bullets for them. This is
an instance of that at least it's as far as
how he was trying to portray that. Look, Olwie Gordon's
not the only one who's fallen victim of this. It
doesn't make it right, But let's not all point the
figure and act like you haven't had two three four
drinks Lee Lee, or you listen.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Lee ain't around two three or four Lee in the corners.
Please don't you insult him like that.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
You know.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
You know what I'll say super quickly to that is,
I don't feel like it was the best way of
presenting it. I don't I think why. I just didn't
think it was the best way of presenting it. But
but to that, but to that point, I think to
Q's point, the brilliance of it really is is that
what are all those writers going to do? What are
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all those coaches going to do? What are all those
people that are attending, you know, media day, what are
they going to do? Soon as they leave, They're gonna
finish up their work and they're gonna go drink and
some may gamble that, some may do other things, but
more often than not, people are going to have a
cocktail or two or three or more. So I think
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the brilliance of it is is that the environment that
you're in what cause like, you're gonna touch that glass
and you're gonna be like, you know what, I shouldn't
be judging this kid, as hard as I maybe was
thinking I was going to judge this kid before, I know,
before I got here, And so the presentation of that
becomes more to me strategically placed, because you know what
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it is, you know what time it is when you
go to Vegas. Second point I make is super quick
is the Big Ten to me? And I may be
a tabit bias, but regardless of what the Big twelve does,
they're going, in my estimation, outside of the staunch, you know,
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just tied into the big two schools that are in
in the in the conference. Outside of that, I think
I think they're going to play third fiddle to how
competitive it's going to be in the other two conferences
that truly matter, which is the Ten and the SEC.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think the Big Ten is far and away.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
If it's going to be measured by viewing audience and
ratings and stuff like that, I think they're going to
run away with it this year.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
My humble estimation.
Speaker 11 (17:30):
I think it's the Big ten in everybody else in
terms of the level of watching and wondering and entertainment
value of it. I think the ten they have it now,
what they do with it that that remains to be seen,
and I think that will be part of the reason
why a lot of people are watching. But you know,
the Big Twelve is going to have to say things
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and do things in a manner of which they try
to stay and continue relevant.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
At least they're trying.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Like the pacts let It get Away was a bag
of vomit, and then you know the acc you know,
is just kind of whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We'll figure it out, Clemson and everybody else.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
And that's where you have to understand too, how the
PAC twelve fell apart. I mean, one of the best
things that brett Or Mark did when he first took
over as commissioner was he immediately realized that what could
happen to the PAC twelve could happen to the Big twelve,
and so he ripped up their agreement and redid it,
you know, right away, making sure that there is you know,
elements in there that allowed the schools to stay competitive.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
From a monetary standpoint.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
I mean, you know, they're not getting quite as much
from the their TV media rights, so they have to
find other ways of supplementing that. And that's why you
see a private equity and fusion. That's why you see
the naming rights. You know, in the end will be enough.
You know, maybe not like we don't know where this
whole thing's going, but to your point, they're trying. I mean,
look at the ACC where you've got a number of schools,
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whether it's Florida State, Clemson, there's more than that who
are poking around, fishing around, who are trying to leave
to try to find greater pastures elsewhere, because this becomes
an arms races. And really what's at the forefront, and
why that's so important is because you are now gonna
have an operating cost that you've never had before that's
paying student athletes. You know, that twenty some million because
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of the House NCAA settlement is something that you're gonna
have to pony up to every single year, if not more.
Moving forward, and so you better be able to have
the funds to do so. And again that's where the
Big Twelve is much better position right now than you
would have said the two teams left in the Pac
twelve or obviously the ACC as well right now. So
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you know, as far as them playing third fiddle, of course, LeVar,
I mean, I think no one's no one's trying to
argue otherwise I wouldn't say this, though, I do think
the conference has as much parody as any conference, meaning,
you know, Utah is the favorite to win the Big
Twelve this year, and I'm really curious to see, like
as they enter into the league, how the way they
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run the football, the way they play defense came rising
for a seventh year, what that means for them. But
if you look from Utah to whoever you think the
bottom tier team is, you know, TCU went to a
national championship game two years ago.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Last year, they've really struggled and they've got a young team.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
They should be better, you know, whoever you want to
put in that position, there's not as wide of a
gap as I think you'd see, for example, in the
Big ten end Ohio State or Penn State and Michigan
versus like Rutgers or or one of the Wesser teams
or whoever you want to point to Vanderbilt and Georgia
in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I think it's a lot tighter, a lot more parody
of the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
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somebody's trying to tell their side of the story why
they made a decision in the world of sports, and
we will hear that again fifteen minutes from now now.
Despite what our rundown says here. Josh heins Allen, better
(22:22):
known Heinz Allen, better better known as Josh Allen, the
two time Pro Bowl defensive star for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Josh heines, Yes, he's changed his name.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
He is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He has decided to change his name. He's citing a
tribute to the maternal side of his family and other
family members who have worn the same name. But he
has now changed his name from Josh Allen to Josh
heinz Allen, and that's going to be what he's known
as moving forward. He's got a jersey swap coming up
(23:01):
in September with fans, Jaguar fans who have his jersey,
they're gonna be able to swap that out. So there
is all that now, Listen, I know, the family history,
all that stuff probably helped that. You know, there was
another superstar in the league named Josh Allen of the bill.
There you go, like, maybe that was a part of
the motivation.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Get do you ever meet anybody named LeVar Arrington other than.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I've met somebody named LeVar too. There was a LeVar
Fisher that played for North Carolina State. There was a
LeVar Woods that played for Iowa and they both played
in the league too, and they were both linebackers. Really yeah, ye,
so I have heard of I've never met a LeVar Arrington.
(23:46):
Well I take that back, I do know a LeVar Arrington. Yeah,
he's the second. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You ever meet a Brady Quintin.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I've met a Brady Quinn. Yeah, I mean, I mean
I've met a Brady quin Have you ever met a
second Brady Quinn? I don't think they exist, and if
they do, they don't care.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
There one hundred percent is there is a little quarterback
on the West coast of Florida right now. I think
he's like a freshman or sophomore. But he's a little stud.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
His name is Brady Quinn, little stud, and they probably
named him after you, which is interesting.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I'm not going to go as far as confirming it,
but I do know someone who knows him because they
were trying to put us in touch somehow.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
But he's he's a good little player man. He's got
a very bright future.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
He's a freshman or sophomore over like maybe in Naples,
somewhere over in the West coast.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
In Naples, First Baptist Academy, four point zero GPA. How
about that he's the number one twenty twenty eight quarterback
in the country.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, the QB hit list. I mean, listen, I stood.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
I've got a quarterback coach on that side, and he
sent me some of his tape and I was like, dude,
this kid can sling it.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
He's a very good athlete too, not just football.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's gonna be pretty humbling.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I have somebody named after you, and I had a
horse named after me once close as I got I
believe a dog as well.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
What is the bigger compliment the horse of the dog?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Well, I'll say Sammy Huff named the horse, So I'll
say it's the horse.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
An elephant.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
If they'd be way more, I'd be way more. I
would be honored if an elephant wasn't, especially with the
latest videos that you guys have been circulating in the
group chat, I mean I would be There was one
yesterday where a kind of it was just hoes tangling,
(25:44):
you know, just like you know the the trump and
and and then the other thing. And anyway, Var told
me that if he had a pet termite, he would
name it after me.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, we have a pet resident roach. You know, maybe well, yeah,
they took care of that.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah yeah, cousins, Oh yeah, there everywhere. Listen, there's here,
all right. So here's the other portion of the Jacksonville
Jaguars in the news story. So we talked about this
last week, and it is Jacksonville Jaguar player.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
By everyone, and so we might have confused some people.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So we were discussing how shod Con had talked about,
you know, just the injured players and they need to
do a better job, and it felt like he was
calling out the coaching staff like it felt like he
was letting everybody know, this is an important year. We
need to produce and have a better performance than we
had last year and go back to what we did
two years ago when we were a playoff team on
a playoff game, et cetera, et cetera. And then this
(26:48):
was posted on the team's official website and it started
making the rounds yesterday, which pretty much confirms what we
were kind of speculating last week or the week before
from shod Con. I think there's a seed change for us,
and this is for our coaching that they have to
develop young players. Our solution isn't going to be where
we're going to be signing free agents every year. We
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don't have the ability. Bottom line is that young talent
has to be developed. The coaching, the coaching staff, their
priorities have to change, their mindset has to change. That's
where we're going to get our future players.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
We cannot have this addiction to free agents. End quote
from Shod Con.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's quote. Y'all better tighten up real quick, y'all on
the other.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Side of this, Damn man, what wouldn't you removed from
from the playoffs? I mean they were, they were in
playoff contention going into the final week of the season
if I'm not mistaken, and uh, and they lost, and
then that's you know, how they ended up on the
outside looking in.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
Let me ask you guys this, don't you think they
took I mean to chat Cohn's point shot, Con, I'm
a shod don't you think they took a significant It's
enough step back this past season for it to be
this type of feeling from the owner. Like a lot
(28:08):
of times we say the owners aren't aren't very sensible
in how they're approaching things. They have to be a
little bit more responsible and less hands on in some regards.
But isn't this one kind of warranted?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
You mean the pressure on Doug Peterson, I mean on if.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
He's saying the whole staff. I mean, what'd you say
it's warranted in this scenario in particular.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yes, yes, it's the answer when you look at the
fact that they've Joshu hein z Allen, how I'll ever
call him between him and now looking at Trevor Lawrence,
that they've signed an extended both like both guys have
got to long term deals. There's two of your pieces
of your roster. The facilities have been upgraded. The stadium
(28:54):
is going to be upgraded. The last thing that they're
looking at they want to dumb money into is the
coaching staff, and they spend money on free agency.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
It seems like at this point Lea's hammerd It.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Is just.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Oh gosh, hot seat the show start at some point, shock.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
So many man, you got messing around anymore?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
All Right, he's not talk talk talk talk. I think
they listened to that on his yacht. They probably do.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, that's his hep that's his.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Like when he watch into when he walked into the stadium,
into the room, into the to the yacht.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You know, he's waxing his mustache and he just walks
in off the yacht. Chuck chuck, chuck chuck chuck of gun, Yeah,
chuck a gun.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So it's actually really good. It's really good.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Meanwhile, Dougie visors find himself on the hot seat and uh,
and if this doesn't go well, is.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He gonna get a third shot? Philly A great question.
Jacksonville got a super Bowl though, Yeah, good question, got
a super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
I mean, definitely OC. He definitely goes right into an
OC roll. Wouldn't even want to be in OC. I mean,
generally winning head coach are you like, well, but if
you get fired from your second head coaching gig, don't
you take where the getting is good? I mean you're
able to recycle through the league. I mean you could
(30:48):
go down a level and go get a head coaching
He could go get a head coaching job at the
college level easily. But a lot of times coaches that
coach pro do not want to go backwards. Considered a
backwards move. I would say, if it doesn't work out
for him here, it's it's an O C role, and
it's an O C role until he can kind of
(31:11):
clear himself of maybe what was the reasons why it
didn't work out in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's what I would offer.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, who would you say would be the decision maker
behind whether or not Doug Peterson is the coach moving
forward in jackson I think.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
The tuck chuck of gun oh, Tucker, gun oh, Tucker
gun oh.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Do you guys think that? Do you think that he
tuk tuk tuk tuk tuck of gun goes after goes
after Belichick? Hey, I think Brady brought that up. I
think he brought I think he brought it up that
that could be at Landic.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Is it full season? Mid is it either a full
season or mid season?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
I don't know. Well, I mean going after Doug Peterson.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
See here's my thing.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I mean, Lee is just so.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go, tucka con, Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
All right, Yeah, just don't be surprised. And Brady made
the call to shot last week. Don't be surprised if
Bill Belichick's phone rings and he looks down at caller
ID and it says tuk tuk tuk tuk tuk of
con and then Bill Belichick answers the phone You say.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Chuck Tuck of Con, I love it so much. Hey,
get up, Hey, come over here, you want to get
on the phone. Hey, hey, this is my girlfriend and
and and this is uh con chuck a con.
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recently revealed her why he chose to lead Golden State
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Speaker 12 (34:25):
Sure Dallas was so attractive because of the young players
they have, the style of play, the world class treatment
these players get from this organization, and just a beautiful
city who loves their hoops. When I was watching the
playoffs and I'm watching the Masks, you know make a
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look like they have fun playing with each other and
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And there's mutual interest there and that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I think.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Later on in the press conference, Clay said, also another
reason was that Luca didn't have the organization draft his son,
and also another reason.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Why, Wow, I was gonna ask, when you hear a
player talk about all the qualities he likes in something else,
does that automatically mean he wasn't finding those same qualities
of the place.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
He was at.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I would yes, probably because.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Maybe, but I also feel like he had a lot
of those things in Golden State.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
When you talk about the organization, what they put into it,
you know that they even maybe he said the fan base,
maybe not.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
But I actually would argue that some people might take
that take. But I also think he.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Was looking for what he already had had or what
he experienced in Golden State, and I think he's trying
to find that in Dallas.
Speaker 11 (35:44):
Yeah, that's actly I think he felt displaced in Golden
State when he became that sixth man off the bench.
So you probably go to Dallas, be a starter, still
have an opportunity. In his mind, he probably sees himself
as that that third superstar to the two that they have.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
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Speaker 10 (36:05):
But also got well, guys, if you had missed it,
a lot of action on the Colorado campus last year,
including tickets for Shador Sanders on his four hundred thousand
dollars Rolls Royce, which was booted. Even Coach Prime ha
gotten ticketed. Well, Coach Prime took it a step further.
He actually gifted all the campus police, everyone on the
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staff new cowboy hats just show good faith.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Pretty cool, huh.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
So he was, I mean he was happy, like, you know, hey,
I have no desire for a cowboy hating.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I mean, you could never have too many cowboy hats.
Come on, I mean I almost bought one at the
fair last year. I just couldn't justify spending fifty bucks
on that thing. If I'll spend on a cowboy hat,
I like a good expensive dude.
Speaker 11 (36:56):
Yeah, they are because they're nice. It's hard to find
the hat that that fits my my head though. You
know I gotta get that. You know that extra.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
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What movie is this? Legend?
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Speaker 1 (05:15):
As Brady Quinn mentioned, he is live in Las Vegas,
boots on the ground, and we've got Big twelve Media Days.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
You know, Brownie's out there too, by the way, you know,
say what's up to me while you're there? In a coincidence, Yeah,
you know, I'm.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
We got a little bit of everything out here in
Las Vegas right now. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Big twelve Media Days are going on right now. USA
Basketball is here as well as the summer leagues. So
trust me, it is jam packed. Got to see a
bunch of different people last night. It was fun though
it was a really good day. It reminds you just
how big Vegas can be and yet host a number
of big events and with a ton of different people
(05:55):
and you still don't see everyone like you still feel
like there's a bunch of different stuff going on.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
It's pretty crazy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
So with that being said, the big takeaway from Big
twelve Media Days because we do have a little bit
from Brett yor Mark, the Big twelve commissioner who was
there kind of talking about the situation with the Big Twelve.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
But I'll be honest with you, he got me.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
A little fired up here because he was letting everybody know,
while the Big Ten and the SEC get all the
love and everybody's a big fan of those two conferences,
here was the Big Twelve commissioner putting his chest out
and letting everybody know what the deal.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Is with the Big Twelve.
Speaker 10 (06:32):
We are truly a national conference in ten states, four
time zones, and all eyes are now on the Big
Twelve for all the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And I think it's safe to say we are more
relevant now than ever before.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Damn right, we're talking about there, way to go, screw
you Texas at Oklahoma.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Let's make college football great a game.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
That's a man.
Speaker 3 (07:00):
They're trying to keep up with the times.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
You know, everybody's moving, everybody's jocking for positioning to try
and you know, create these super conferences, and there he
is kind of standing on it and welcoming all these
new teams in and letting everybody know they're kind of
wan won a little bite of the apple here.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Good for him, you're there, cut what you got.
Speaker 6 (07:17):
I was gonna say, say what you guys want.
Speaker 7 (07:19):
Brett Yormark is to me the most progressive conference commissioner
there is, and I think he has to be given
us role within the Big twelve because it's not the
Big Ten, it's not the SEC which clearly have a
strong stakehold, given the brands that they've got, given the
TV contracts that they have, you know, with their respective
(07:40):
TV partners.
Speaker 6 (07:43):
It's just not the same.
Speaker 7 (07:44):
And so he has to think outside the box, and
he has whether it's the naming rights of the league itself,
whether it's private equity, all the things that he's done.
But like being here in Las Vegas, one of the
things that it's a clear difference at least from, for example,
the PAC twelve, which is still having its event today
even though it's two teams in Washington State and Oregon State,
(08:07):
which we can get to it another time, but they's
just a clear distinction between how things are run. I mean,
the event was flawless, the press conference, the way he
answers questions, even tough questions. I mean, the biggest thing
I take away from all this is bigger picture college football.
(08:28):
There's definitely still more questions than answers, you know, when
it comes to realignment, when it comes to revenue share
with student athletes, how they look at it from a
conference standpoint, how they look at it from a school standpoint,
all those things are still so undetermined and no one
has the answers yet. But I would say this, Brett
Yormark is one of the most thoughtful people about how
(08:50):
it's going to work. And I think he's going to
be a great person to lead the Big twelve and
figure out where college football is going.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
I don't think there's any doubt about it. When you
talk to him, get a sense of it.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
And I'll go as far as saying this, if he
was the commissioner of the PAC twelve, there would actually
be a PAC twelve, and you probably would have seen
not you know what's what happened to the Big twelve
as far as its expansion bringing in more teams, that
probably would have been the PAC twelve had he been
that conference commissioner. You probably would have seen the Big
(09:22):
twelve decimated and the PAC twelve would have had all
the growth all the.
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Teams come to it had he been the commissioner there.
So he has done a.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Tremendous job building up the Big twelve and keeping it
relevant amongst the Big ten and SEC, who are the
two biggest stakeholders.
Speaker 11 (09:37):
If that's If that's the case, then what happens to
the Big ten because the Big ten pillage the PAC twelve.
What happens to the Big ten if if he goes
to the PAC twelve and pillages the big Big twelve?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
How would that How would that play out?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
And your estimate still seeing you probably would have still
seen you know, USC UCLA, you know, maybe would have gone,
and maybe those two other schools. But I'm saying you
don't see Utah migrate, Colorado migrate, Arizona State migrate, Arizona migrate.
Those four probably stay in the PAC twelve. You probably
get teams that he pulls from the Big twelve into
(10:13):
the PAC twelve.
Speaker 12 (10:15):
You know.
Speaker 7 (10:15):
So right there you've got six teams with other four
staying and he might even you know, bring in another
six or eight to make a bit to make that conference.
So they might have still lost those teams regardless, just
because at this point, schools are going to do what
they feel like is in their best interest.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
You know.
Speaker 7 (10:31):
One of the hot topics is always Florida State, because
it's it's not a secret. We know that they want
to get out of the ACC. It's just a matter
of how. And I think the way I see it
is none of these schools want it to be a
grant of rights issue. They'd like it to be an
optionality issue. I mean, there's not something that has to
(10:52):
go challenge the grant of rights because in the ACC
that thing's pretty iron clad and it's in there for
a long period of time. But they know there might
be a challenge legally too. Do they have the optionality
they need to succeed and to be able to compete?
And if they don't, there might be a case that
they should be able to be let out of the
ACC of that conference for that reason.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
And so that's gonna be the interesting thing to keep
an eye on moving forward.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
No, I'll go you got to go, Okay, Well, I
just wanted to say that. You know, somebody was the
talk of Big twelve media days not named Brady Quinn
while they were there in Las Vegas, and that was
none other than Mike Gundhy, the Oklahoma State head coach.
To little backstory here on the discussion here when it
comes to Mike Gundy. So Ollie Gordon, who's the best
(11:39):
running back in college football, won the Dokee Walker last year,
was arrested for a DUI on June thirtieth and yeah, So,
I mean he was celebrating your birthday.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
And that's how I got popped for the Dewey there
on June thirtieth.
Speaker 12 (11:53):
So.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, Mike Gundy wanted him to come to Big
twelve media days and to face the music a little bit.
And Mike Gundy also talked about just sort of his
thinking when hearing about the news of one of his
best players getting the DUI just a couple of weeks
or a few weeks back, so.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
I looked it up on my phone.
Speaker 9 (12:14):
What would be the legal limit like in Oklahoma's point
eight and Ollie was point one. So I looked it
up and it was based on body weight. Not to
get into the legal side of it, but I thought,
really two or three beers or four. I'm not justifying
what all he did. I'm telling you what decision I made. Well,
I thought, I've probably done that a thousand times in
(12:35):
my life, and I'm you know, it's just fine.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
So I got lucky. People get lucky.
Speaker 9 (12:40):
Alli made a decision that he wished he could have
done better. But when I talked to Ollie, I told
him said, you're lucky you got out, like because you
make a lot of money. To play football. So back
in the day, being able to cover the cost of
what he's going to go through would be difficult for
a college player.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
It's not for him.
Speaker 9 (13:00):
Now I'm not speaking for him, but I'm just saying
that's not an issue for him. So nobody got hurt.
And I said, we see people doing this and people
losing their lives across the country, not just football players
but everybody.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
So you got out lucky.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
So he then took the social media afterwards and put
my intended point today a big twelve media days was
that we are all guilty of making bad decisions. It
was not a reference to something specific. I just think
he would being a little too honest when he probably
should have given a PC answer, and nobody.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Would have thought two things about it. That's a that'll though,
That's not I.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Think this is. This is twofold, all right. So let
me first say this.
Speaker 7 (13:41):
This is by design that he brings Ali Gordon to
the Big twelve many days for starters. The guy won
the Doak Walker last year. He led the nation rushing,
so he is a leader on that team. There's no
doubt about it. I had the chance to sit down
with the young man he's a great kid, you know,
he's a great young man. We really didn't talk much
about the mistake, but he, you know, talked about the
fact that he I made a mistake. I want to
(14:02):
own up for it and get past it, because if
you address it now, then after this it really doesn't
become anything other than just football moving forward. So there's
definitely something to that. I think, you know, bringing him
here after making the mistake is by design. To me,
there's also brilliance in it because most people take away
(14:24):
from the Big twelve media day, even having Ollie Gordon
here with what is transpired was Mike Gundy's comments. It's
like the focus shifts on Mike Gundy now because of
what he says. And I don't know if it's by design,
if it's a tactic, but I think it's brilliant if
it is the fact that you say something that goes
viral so much so that instead of your player taking
(14:48):
the heat, you end up taking the attention and taking
the heat, which I love, you know, because that's the
one thing that you'll hear all the players. Alan Bowman,
their quarterback who was there as well yesterday sporting quite
the mo ustash but you hear them talk about Mike
Geby as a father figure to them, you know, how
they look up to him, how he does at times,
(15:08):
you know, take take the bullets for them. This is
an instance of that at least it's as far as
how he was trying to portray that. Look, Olwie Gordon's
not the only one who's fallen victim of this. It
doesn't make it right, But let's not all point the
figure and act like you haven't had two three four
drinks Lee Lee, or you listen.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Lee ain't around two three or four Lee in the corners.
Please don't you insult him like that.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
You know.
Speaker 11 (15:32):
You know what I'll say super quickly to that is,
I don't feel like it was the best way of
presenting it. I don't I think why. I just didn't
think it was the best way of presenting it. But
but to that, but to that point, I think to
Q's point, the brilliance of it really is is that
what are all those writers going to do? What are
(15:53):
all those coaches going to do? What are all those
people that are attending, you know, media day, what are
they going to do? Soon as they leave, They're gonna
finish up their work and they're gonna go drink and
some may gamble that, some may do other things, but
more often than not, people are going to have a
cocktail or two or three or more. So I think
(16:16):
the brilliance of it is is that the environment that
you're in what cause like, you're gonna touch that glass
and you're gonna be like, you know what, I shouldn't
be judging this kid, as hard as I maybe was
thinking I was going to judge this kid before, I know,
before I got here, And so the presentation of that
becomes more to me strategically placed, because you know what
(16:37):
it is, you know what time it is when you
go to Vegas. Second point I make is super quick
is the Big Ten to me? And I may be
a tabit bias, but regardless of what the Big twelve does,
they're going, in my estimation, outside of the staunch, you know,
(16:58):
just tied into the big two schools that are in
in the in the conference. Outside of that, I think
I think they're going to play third fiddle to how
competitive it's going to be in the other two conferences
that truly matter, which is the Ten and the SEC.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
I think the Big Ten is far and away.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
If it's going to be measured by viewing audience and
ratings and stuff like that, I think they're going to
run away with it this year.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
My humble estimation.
Speaker 11 (17:30):
I think it's the Big ten in everybody else in
terms of the level of watching and wondering and entertainment
value of it. I think the ten they have it now,
what they do with it that that remains to be seen,
and I think that will be part of the reason
why a lot of people are watching. But you know,
the Big Twelve is going to have to say things
(17:51):
and do things in a manner of which they try
to stay and continue relevant.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
At least they're trying.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Like the pacts let It get Away was a bag
of vomit, and then you know the acc you know,
is just kind of whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
We'll figure it out, Clemson and everybody else.
Speaker 7 (18:07):
And that's where you have to understand too, how the
PAC twelve fell apart. I mean, one of the best
things that brett Or Mark did when he first took
over as commissioner was he immediately realized that what could
happen to the PAC twelve could happen to the Big twelve,
and so he ripped up their agreement and redid it,
you know, right away, making sure that there is you know,
elements in there that allowed the schools to stay competitive.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
From a monetary standpoint.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
I mean, you know, they're not getting quite as much
from the their TV media rights, so they have to
find other ways of supplementing that. And that's why you
see a private equity and fusion. That's why you see
the naming rights. You know, in the end will be enough.
You know, maybe not like we don't know where this
whole thing's going, but to your point, they're trying. I mean,
look at the ACC where you've got a number of schools,
(18:52):
whether it's Florida State, Clemson, there's more than that who
are poking around, fishing around, who are trying to leave
to try to find greater pastures elsewhere, because this becomes
an arms races. And really what's at the forefront, and
why that's so important is because you are now gonna
have an operating cost that you've never had before that's
paying student athletes. You know, that twenty some million because
(19:16):
of the House NCAA settlement is something that you're gonna
have to pony up to every single year, if not more.
Moving forward, and so you better be able to have
the funds to do so. And again that's where the
Big Twelve is much better position right now than you
would have said the two teams left in the Pac
twelve or obviously the ACC as well right now. So
(19:37):
you know, as far as them playing third fiddle, of course, LeVar,
I mean, I think no one's no one's trying to
argue otherwise I wouldn't say this, though, I do think
the conference has as much parody as any conference, meaning,
you know, Utah is the favorite to win the Big
Twelve this year, and I'm really curious to see, like
as they enter into the league, how the way they
(19:57):
run the football, the way they play defense came rising
for a seventh year, what that means for them. But
if you look from Utah to whoever you think the
bottom tier team is, you know, TCU went to a
national championship game two years ago.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Last year, they've really struggled and they've got a young team.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
They should be better, you know, whoever you want to
put in that position, there's not as wide of a
gap as I think you'd see, for example, in the
Big ten end Ohio State or Penn State and Michigan
versus like Rutgers or or one of the Wesser teams
or whoever you want to point to Vanderbilt and Georgia
in the SEC.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
I think it's a lot tighter, a lot more parody
of the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
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somebody's trying to tell their side of the story why
they made a decision in the world of sports, and
we will hear that again fifteen minutes from now now.
Despite what our rundown says here. Josh heins Allen, better
(22:22):
known Heinz Allen, better better known as Josh Allen, the
two time Pro Bowl defensive star for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 3 (22:34):
Josh heines, Yes, he's changed his name.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
He is.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
He has decided to change his name. He's citing a
tribute to the maternal side of his family and other
family members who have worn the same name. But he
has now changed his name from Josh Allen to Josh
heinz Allen, and that's going to be what he's known
as moving forward. He's got a jersey swap coming up
(23:01):
in September with fans, Jaguar fans who have his jersey,
they're gonna be able to swap that out. So there
is all that now, Listen, I know, the family history,
all that stuff probably helped that. You know, there was
another superstar in the league named Josh Allen of the bill.
There you go, like, maybe that was a part of
the motivation.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Get do you ever meet anybody named LeVar Arrington other than.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I've met somebody named LeVar too. There was a LeVar
Fisher that played for North Carolina State. There was a
LeVar Woods that played for Iowa and they both played
in the league too, and they were both linebackers. Really yeah, ye,
so I have heard of I've never met a LeVar Arrington.
(23:46):
Well I take that back, I do know a LeVar Arrington. Yeah,
he's the second. Yeah, so there you go.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
You ever meet a Brady Quintin.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
I've met a Brady Quinn. Yeah, I mean, I mean
I've met a Brady quin Have you ever met a
second Brady Quinn? I don't think they exist, and if
they do, they don't care.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
There one hundred percent is there is a little quarterback
on the West coast of Florida right now. I think
he's like a freshman or sophomore. But he's a little stud.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
His name is Brady Quinn, little stud, and they probably
named him after you, which is interesting.
Speaker 7 (24:20):
I'm not going to go as far as confirming it,
but I do know someone who knows him because they
were trying to put us in touch somehow.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
But he's he's a good little player man. He's got
a very bright future.
Speaker 7 (24:30):
He's a freshman or sophomore over like maybe in Naples,
somewhere over in the West coast.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
In Naples, First Baptist Academy, four point zero GPA. How
about that he's the number one twenty twenty eight quarterback
in the country.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yeah, the QB hit list. I mean, listen, I stood.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
I've got a quarterback coach on that side, and he
sent me some of his tape and I was like, dude,
this kid can sling it.
Speaker 6 (24:58):
He's a very good athlete too, not just football.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
It's gonna be pretty humbling.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I have somebody named after you, and I had a
horse named after me once close as I got I
believe a dog as well.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
What is the bigger compliment the horse of the dog?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Well, I'll say Sammy Huff named the horse, So I'll
say it's the horse.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
An elephant.
Speaker 1 (25:22):
If they'd be way more, I'd be way more. I
would be honored if an elephant wasn't, especially with the
latest videos that you guys have been circulating in the
group chat, I mean I would be There was one
yesterday where a kind of it was just hoes tangling,
(25:44):
you know, just like you know the the trump and
and and then the other thing. And anyway, Var told
me that if he had a pet termite, he would
name it after me.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Well, we have a pet resident roach. You know, maybe well, yeah,
they took care of that.
Speaker 6 (26:02):
He got it.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah yeah, cousins, Oh yeah, there everywhere. Listen, there's here,
all right. So here's the other portion of the Jacksonville
Jaguars in the news story. So we talked about this
last week, and it is Jacksonville Jaguar player.
Speaker 3 (26:21):
By everyone, and so we might have confused some people.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
So we were discussing how shod Con had talked about,
you know, just the injured players and they need to
do a better job, and it felt like he was
calling out the coaching staff like it felt like he
was letting everybody know, this is an important year. We
need to produce and have a better performance than we
had last year and go back to what we did
two years ago when we were a playoff team on
a playoff game, et cetera, et cetera. And then this
(26:48):
was posted on the team's official website and it started
making the rounds yesterday, which pretty much confirms what we
were kind of speculating last week or the week before
from shod Con. I think there's a seed change for us,
and this is for our coaching that they have to
develop young players. Our solution isn't going to be where
we're going to be signing free agents every year. We
(27:10):
don't have the ability. Bottom line is that young talent
has to be developed. The coaching, the coaching staff, their
priorities have to change, their mindset has to change. That's
where we're going to get our future players.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Quote.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
We cannot have this addiction to free agents. End quote
from Shod Con.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
That's quote. Y'all better tighten up real quick, y'all on
the other.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Side of this, Damn man, what wouldn't you removed from
from the playoffs? I mean they were, they were in
playoff contention going into the final week of the season
if I'm not mistaken, and uh, and they lost, and
then that's you know, how they ended up on the
outside looking in.
Speaker 11 (27:48):
Let me ask you guys this, don't you think they
took I mean to chat Cohn's point shot, Con, I'm
a shod don't you think they took a significant It's
enough step back this past season for it to be
this type of feeling from the owner. Like a lot
(28:08):
of times we say the owners aren't aren't very sensible
in how they're approaching things. They have to be a
little bit more responsible and less hands on in some regards.
But isn't this one kind of warranted?
Speaker 3 (28:22):
You mean the pressure on Doug Peterson, I mean on if.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
He's saying the whole staff. I mean, what'd you say
it's warranted in this scenario in particular.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
Yes, yes, it's the answer when you look at the
fact that they've Joshu hein z Allen, how I'll ever
call him between him and now looking at Trevor Lawrence,
that they've signed an extended both like both guys have
got to long term deals. There's two of your pieces
of your roster. The facilities have been upgraded. The stadium
(28:54):
is going to be upgraded. The last thing that they're
looking at they want to dumb money into is the
coaching staff, and they spend money on free agency.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
It seems like at this point Lea's hammerd It.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Is just.
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Oh gosh, hot seat the show start at some point, shock.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
So many man, you got messing around anymore?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
All Right, he's not talk talk talk talk. I think
they listened to that on his yacht. They probably do.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
You have to.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, that's his hep that's his.
Speaker 11 (29:51):
Like when he watch into when he walked into the stadium,
into the room, into the to the yacht.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
You know, he's waxing his mustache and he just walks
in off the yacht. Chuck chuck, chuck chuck chuck of gun, Yeah,
chuck a gun.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So it's actually really good. It's really good.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Meanwhile, Dougie visors find himself on the hot seat and uh,
and if this doesn't go well, is.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
He gonna get a third shot? Philly A great question.
Jacksonville got a super Bowl though, Yeah, good question, got
a super Bowl?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
I mean, definitely OC. He definitely goes right into an
OC roll. Wouldn't even want to be in OC. I mean,
generally winning head coach are you like, well, but if
you get fired from your second head coaching gig, don't
you take where the getting is good? I mean you're
able to recycle through the league. I mean you could
(30:48):
go down a level and go get a head coaching
He could go get a head coaching job at the
college level easily. But a lot of times coaches that
coach pro do not want to go backwards. Considered a
backwards move. I would say, if it doesn't work out
for him here, it's it's an O C role, and
it's an O C role until he can kind of
(31:11):
clear himself of maybe what was the reasons why it
didn't work out in Jacksonville.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
That's what I would offer.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well, who would you say would be the decision maker
behind whether or not Doug Peterson is the coach moving
forward in jackson I think.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
The tuck chuck of gun oh, Tucker, gun oh, Tucker
gun oh.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Do you guys think that? Do you think that he
tuk tuk tuk tuk tuck of gun goes after goes
after Belichick? Hey, I think Brady brought that up. I
think he brought I think he brought it up that
that could be at Landic.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Is it full season? Mid is it either a full
season or mid season?
Speaker 6 (31:51):
I don't know. Well, I mean going after Doug Peterson.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
See here's my thing.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
I mean, Lee is just so.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go, tucka con, Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
All right, Yeah, just don't be surprised. And Brady made
the call to shot last week. Don't be surprised if
Bill Belichick's phone rings and he looks down at caller
ID and it says tuk tuk tuk tuk tuk of
con and then Bill Belichick answers the phone You say.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
Chuck Tuck of Con, I love it so much. Hey,
get up, Hey, come over here, you want to get
on the phone. Hey, hey, this is my girlfriend and
and and this is uh con chuck a con.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
Oh man, it is Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio and coming up next
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Speaker 3 (32:50):
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Speaker 3 (33:04):
It's wrong with you, man, don't evince. They don't even
starting up.
Speaker 13 (33:10):
Man, we got come on, uh, two Pros and a
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Speaker 1 (34:00):
That we turn it over to our executive producer, Lead.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Lap.
Speaker 10 (34:04):
Good morning everybuddy, Good morning Jonas, Good morning Bratty, Good
morning LeVar. Guys, in case you missed it, The Lap
newest member of the Dallas Mavericks, clay Tony Hey Brady,
recently revealed her why he chose to lead Golden State
for Dallas. You guys want to listen.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Listen.
Speaker 12 (34:25):
Sure Dallas was so attractive because of the young players
they have, the style of play, the world class treatment
these players get from this organization, and just a beautiful
city who loves their hoops. When I was watching the
playoffs and I'm watching the Masks, you know make a
run for the championship. I just saw myself fitting in
really well with this team and the personnel, and they
(34:47):
look like they have fun playing with each other and
they play for each other, and that was very attractive
for me. And that's really all I needed to see.
And there's mutual interest there and that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (34:55):
I think.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Later on in the press conference, Clay said, also another
reason was that Luca didn't have the organization draft his son,
and also another reason.
Speaker 7 (35:03):
Why, Wow, I was gonna ask, when you hear a
player talk about all the qualities he likes in something else,
does that automatically mean he wasn't finding those same qualities
of the place.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
He was at.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
I would yes, probably because.
Speaker 6 (35:22):
Maybe, but I also feel like he had a lot
of those things in Golden State.
Speaker 7 (35:26):
When you talk about the organization, what they put into it,
you know that they even maybe he said the fan base,
maybe not.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
But I actually would argue that some people might take
that take. But I also think he.
Speaker 7 (35:38):
Was looking for what he already had had or what
he experienced in Golden State, and I think he's trying
to find that in Dallas.
Speaker 11 (35:44):
Yeah, that's actly I think he felt displaced in Golden
State when he became that sixth man off the bench.
So you probably go to Dallas, be a starter, still
have an opportunity. In his mind, he probably sees himself
as that that third superstar to the two that they have.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
So, I mean it makes sense. It makes sense.
Speaker 10 (36:05):
But also got well, guys, if you had missed it,
a lot of action on the Colorado campus last year,
including tickets for Shador Sanders on his four hundred thousand
dollars Rolls Royce, which was booted. Even Coach Prime ha
gotten ticketed. Well, Coach Prime took it a step further.
He actually gifted all the campus police, everyone on the
(36:28):
staff new cowboy hats just show good faith.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Pretty cool, huh.
Speaker 6 (36:35):
So he was, I mean he was happy, like, you know, hey,
I have no desire for a cowboy hating.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I mean, you could never have too many cowboy hats.
Come on, I mean I almost bought one at the
fair last year. I just couldn't justify spending fifty bucks
on that thing. If I'll spend on a cowboy hat,
I like a good expensive dude.
Speaker 11 (36:56):
Yeah, they are because they're nice. It's hard to find
the hat that that fits my my head though. You
know I gotta get that. You know that extra.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Large hat, You know what I mean? No kidding, damn
shocka con sh s. We've got time for one more though.
Speaker 6 (37:20):
No not can squeeze.
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