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July 12, 2024 38 mins

George Kittle addresses an 18-game season. Roger Goodell reveals plans for private equity. Detroit made bank off the Draft but how will Green Bay fair next year? Plus, a special surprise on “Over/Unders.”

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way tire buying should be. It's probably where Jonas is
off today.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
I'll bring.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Probably because given his the age of his vehicle, he's
probably getting his new tires installed. You're probably what he's
doing headed into the weekend. I do want to bring
to light something that I don't know. Man, I just
don't get it. I just don't get it. Sometimes, you know,
when players say things, and especially when they're the top

(01:24):
players in the league, I look at it and go,
you know, people are listening, people are watching, and it
feels like maybe this message has been passed along behind
the scenes, but I don't think it's been communicated the
best way from the player's standpoint for the leverage.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
That they have.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
And I'm talking about two people, Joe Burrow and George Kittle.
Joe Burrow said recently kind of proposed his idea of
an eighteen game season with two buys, and what he
grabbed a lot of attention from folks is the idea
of this kind of Pro Bowl NBA All Star type week,

(02:06):
where Joe Burrow had said, you know, hey, we'd like
to have two buys, one where it's one that we
normally see other teams are playing, and it's mixed in
throughout the season. But then there's like a week thirteen
by where it's like the NBA All Star break and
we take a break, we have seven on seven the
skills competition. So first, let me just debunk this. That's

(02:26):
not a good idea. If you think participation is bad.
Now after the season It's only going to be even
worse during the season when teams are still trying to
play to get in the playoffs, and when a division
gets Super Bowl, all that they have incentives as well,
They're probably going to be banged up to some degree,
no different than the would be at the end.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Of the season. So this solves nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I don't think helps anything, and wouldn't improve ratings for
the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
That is what it is that ship has sailed.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
But what really strikes me as odd is how comfortable
guys are talking about eighteen games. I mean, we're now
at seventeen. It's just everyone talks as if like, well, yeah,
eighteen it's coming. It's just it's like, no, man, this
used to be negotiated for. This used to be something
that it was a bargaining chip, even going from sixteen

(03:16):
to seventeen, which I'm still even a little bit confused
why at that point the players just didn't say, hey,
let's just go to eighteen. Let's go to round numbers.
This is what we want, you know, in return for
the two additional games. But I digress. This is where
we are, and so this is coming off the back
of Joe Burrow saying all this and seeming comfortable and

(03:36):
anticipating eighteen games, and now George Kittle's weighing in for
eighteen games and two buys in all of this.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Take a listen to this sound.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
This's inevitably first, it's gonna get to eighteen games at
some point, right nuh. And I've I've think I've said
it for like ever since we got to seventeen games.
I was like, just give us two buys. And it
just adds an extra week to the season anyways, because
now you're instide of eighteen weeks.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Now you're at nineteen weeks.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
That's another air week of football that you're on TV
with all the ads and all that stuff. Increases the
season long, and it gives guys an extra week of
rest because you need that. It's hard to play eighteen games. Well, like,
I'm totally fine with that. Just give us two buys.
That's George Kittle on The Rich Eisen Show.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
And here's here's what strikes me as a bit on
No one's against the two buys.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Everyone gets it.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
You're playing additional games, you're you know, you need more
time for your body to rest recover, maybe even for
some young guys if there are injuries or roster moves
to get on the same page an additional week of
practice and preparation.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
What I want to point out is the fact that
all these guys who are the top of the league, the.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
Best of the best, when it's Burrow or Kittle and
others who've talked about this, is it's a negotiating piece,
like the owners need to come to you to get
dating games. It's still on you if you can't say
it's inevitable, because ultimately you're part of making that decision.
And if I was a part of the NFLPA right now,

(04:58):
what I would be saying to everyone is stop saying
that you're like, we're going there. It's this be like, no,
we're at seventeen games. Man, It'll be so tough.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
To go to eighteen games. We'd have to have another buy.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
We have to have bigger ross, we'd have to have,
you know, all the additional wear and tear. You want
to play this thing up like it is the biggest
task to go one more extra regular season game just
so you get something back in return. In these negotiations
where the owners have literally wiped the floor with the
players and.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Every one of these negotiations. And I know there's some.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Guys who are part of the NFLPA who will push
back on that, but that's just the reality of it
that that's where we're at. And I don't know why
that message that whatever's being passed along behind closed doors is.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
That we're gonna be at eighteen games. We're gonna gonna
be at eighteen games.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
This is one of your last big bargaining chips. And
maybe I'm wrong, Maybe I will go to twenty. So
maybe you have another a shot to go back to
the owners and say we'd like lifetime healthcare, we'd like
whatever it is that the nfl PA is trying to get.
My only issue with it is stop sitting out there
and saying like it's it's inevitable. You are a part
of that decision making process and communicating that to the

(06:10):
owners makes it the easiest negotiation on your ends.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I see both sides of it. I mean, I definitely
see it as it being your your negotiation hip one
hundred because they're going to be able to generate more
dollars off of adding more games. And you're right, like
the PA, they have to come together and they have
to have those conversations as to what direction you know,

(06:39):
you take this in, you know, as a former former
player and just thinking about how grueling a sixteen game,
you know, season was after leaving college and adjusting to
there being extra games. Now I didn't play in playoffs.
I couldn't even imagine being a New England Patriot back
in the sixteen game, you know set up where they

(07:03):
kept going to the super Bowl or going deep into
the playoff run. That's a whole lot of football that
that one person is playing. So to me, just looking
at it from a player perspective, I kind of I
look at it like, Okay, definitely you brought up the
whole lifetime healthcare set up in that situation. I think

(07:24):
that that's something that should be seriously, you know, considered
and negotiated and discussed. But how does that play a
part in terms of what your preparation is and how.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
How you prepare your body.

Speaker 5 (07:40):
I would be curious how different it feels those extra games,
you know, getting to eighteen games. How much different does
your body feel by week eleven, by week twelve or
week thirteen of the season versus when you know you're
coming down the home stretch. And thirteen fourteen you know

(08:02):
of the season, So I don't know. I think it's
just one of those things. Once you become a professional,
it's your job. But at some point there has to
be a realistic idea of at what point is the
season too long? You know, and does it become counter

(08:22):
productive to have a season going on? If that even
becomes a debate, I think there can be too much
And is eighteen like is that it? Are you pushing
at some point? Are you trying to get to twenty?
I just at what point does the conversation turn to
too much?

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Is too much?

Speaker 5 (08:43):
That would be my takeaway from hearing about it going
to eighteen games?

Speaker 2 (08:47):
I mean, not to good on.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
The wormhole of like a conspiracy theories, but when when
you think about how the game has changed from a
physicality standpoint, the limitations on hitting in the off season,
limitations on even hitting throughout the course of the season
and practice, and then you think about how do you
get to a twenty game regular season. It's implementing rules
that you know, allow for you to do less hitting

(09:12):
on times outside of the actual game itself.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
And that's one component of it.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I think the other component is the way the game's
actually played on the field, you know, in between the lines,
making the game safer in ways where you're taking out
some of the brutality and some of the hits which
we've seen, you know, over the past, you know, so
many years. So if you look at the overall goal
of the NFL and that's the hit hit, that what
twenty five billion dollar revenue mark? And there's other issues

(09:39):
out there right now the Sunday NFL ticket decision and
an appeal that will come along with that. If they
lose out on that, that's what fourteen billion as of now.
You know, we don't know what that number one up
being that the NFL could potentially owe, but that's a
significant number and a significant loss when you're talking about
a league that most recently reported fourteen billion revenue. I mean,

(10:02):
it kind of wipes out the entire revenue generated just
in one season. So to prepare for that, the NFL
clearly is trying to do all they can to build up,
you know, the additional revenue streams. But also on top
of that, you know, when you look at something like this,
you have to go, well, how are the players going

(10:23):
to come around to this? Okay, two buys, Like two
buys doesn't. It's a win for the players in their minds,
but the reality is for them is like they don't care.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Okay, like extend that season other week, but what does
it matter?

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like all all you're doing is taken up an additional
week in the calendar by kind of spreading around the
buys and how many games you actually see. Like I've
continued to argue this that through COVID, one of the
greatest things that happened was I think people who were
you know, fans of maybe other players who are on
other teams.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Because Fantasy has helped adopt.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
This idea of being able to be, you know, more
than just a fan of one team and it being regional.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
It's become more national.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
And as gamblings come around too, and people have wanted
to get themselves involved in gambling, you know, putting more
games in primetime windows helps. And I don't care if
it's on a Tuesday or Wednesday, it's gonna rate better
than whatever else you're putting on a Tuesday or Wednesday.
I can promise you that, Like that's the direction this
whole thing's going. And so if you find a way,

(11:24):
you know, mixing in different bye weeks or having additional
bi weeks. So this case too, you're gonna find you know,
more matchups that are you know, put in the prime
time or people are gonna watch because it's the only
thing on.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
I mean, that's the day and age that we.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
Live in right now, is it's either appointment, you know,
television you're watching that's gonna be live sports or news,
or it's gonna be some show that you're gonna be
able to watch and binge watch. For the most part,
that's that's the habits right now from streaming and consumption.
So if you look at it from that standpoint, there's
not many really many bargaining chips the players have outside
of saying like we need to expanded rosters, or at

(11:59):
least like instead of saying forty six guys are dressing
for today's game, like the entire fifty three roster is
going to be actually up if you know they can go,
or going to sixty players and creating bigger roster sizes
to prepare for the additional wear and tear on these players' bodies.
I mean, there's only, you know, so many things you

(12:20):
can do. But having a deeper roster helps. You know,
sometimes people don't worry about at the college level, you know,
players playing, you know, this amount of games. I mean
people talk about that in regards to the expansion of
the college football playoff. But you have a massive roster
and you're working in players more throughout the course of
the season. It's one of the best things about Georgia,

(12:41):
for example, is the fact that Kirby Smart is like
working in guys throughout.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
His defense constantly.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
So he has a group that graduates and goes on
to the NFL, gets drafted in the first round. He's
got a bunch of guys who've got experience and have
played in have depth behind them ready to start, and
a group ready to back those guys up and mix in.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
And so you almost have to think of like.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
That model where if colleges work with eighty five scholarships,
and obviously not all those guys are playing, but you
feel like you've got a lot of depth there. You know,
at the NFL level, at least bulb up to sixty
if you're talking about twenty regular season games at some point,
or at least eighteen right now. So I just look
at it and think, how many bites of the apple
do you get if you're the players and this is

(13:21):
one of the last significant ones and at some point
you have to make the big ask. But you've got
to decide what that ask is. And I don't know
if the NFLPA knows that.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
At this point. Well, we have to wait and see.
But it's coming, so they need to figure it out.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
It is coming, and what else is coming is later
on today's show. JP Morosi, that's right, our guy, John
Paul Morosi, he's coming up. He's our Major League Baseball
insider from MLB Network and NHL Network as well. But
we'll be focusing this time on obviously everything with Major
League Baseball right now. Paul Skins, who is literally one
of the most I would say like generational talent. I

(14:00):
think we've seen them pitching quite some time. Whether or
not he can see it, we'll see it. That's coming
up in the next hour. But coming up next on
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, coming to you
live from the ti Raq dot Com studios. The NFL
is about ready to get an infusion of cash. No,
it's not going to eighteen games. We'll explain to you
on the other side.

Speaker 6 (14:19):
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Speaker 3 (14:34):
It's two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on a Friday.
I just try to make some things work here. Hopefully
you're out there enjoying yourselves. Get excited for a fun weekend,
enjoy this nice summertime weather. Mentioned a little bit ago,
though LeVar, there will be an infusion of cash potentially
coming in the NFL. We don't know when it will be,

(14:56):
but Roger Goodell opened up talking about the idea of
private equity investing into the NFL. Now, I'm sure there's
a bunch of people who've got thoughts on what this
looks like and how it would work. Roger Gdel talked
about this on an interview. It was CNBC. Let's take
a listen as sports evolve.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
We want to make sure that our policies reflect that
we had a tremendous amount of interest and we believe
that this could make sense for us in a limited fashion,
probably no more than ten percent of a team, but
that would be something that we think could compliment our
ownership and support our ownership policies.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
So ten percent of the team, which is kind of
the key number or metric that you see there, because
it wouldn't be a majority stake, It wouldn't allow a
private equity company to come in and essentially dictate a
lot of what that franchise is doing. Even though even
in a limited role, there still would be some things
that I'm sure you'd want to have a strong partner
an influence on, you know, someone that's investing into the

(15:56):
team or franchise or the league in this case, that
would be able to help out, you know, whether that's
an infusion of cash to help out with stadium innovations,
new stadium, new facilities, whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
The case is.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
It could be an you know, influx of cash to
help you know, potentially go all in i trying to
win a Super Bowl and then paying a bunch of
free agent you know, players, which would be helpful. But
that being said, it does bring to light the idea
that this is a day and age of the NFL
that's entirely different.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
When we're having these conversations, you know, far.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Away back from the days when you had you know,
families who buy these franchises and keep them in the family,
the runies for example, that you're you're very well versed
in growing growing up in Pittsburgh. It just seems so
foreign and so different from the league that once was
and then what it is now.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
You know. The first thing that came to mind when
I read about it and heard about it was what's
the what are outside of the investment itself for the
private equity group? What what do they get?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Like?

Speaker 5 (17:02):
Do are they able to are they on site? Like
are they able to walk around like the owners of
the team walk around?

Speaker 2 (17:11):
Like? What are so the perks?

Speaker 5 (17:12):
So anybody in those private equity groups they get to
walk around, stand on the field, shake hands as you know,
like this is our team, right.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
That was the first thing I thought about.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
And then the second thing I thought about is, Okay,
let's just take for example, someone like a Jerry Jones,
if he's selling off a minority stake of what he's
got going on to private equity, what's that you know,
what's that relationship look like? You know, like what's your

(17:45):
voice like almost like how you have non non voting
stock and stuff like that, Like, are these like non
voting people like get out of this office, like you
don't belong here even though you have ownership in it.
Like I just started wondering, like what's that? Does that
book turn into like a power struggle? Like if you

(18:05):
think about it, going back to when Dan Snyder was
going through some of the things he was going through,
the minority stakeholders were trying to take the team from them.
So I just wonder, like, does this turn into scenarios
where you know, it could possibly you know, introduce at

(18:26):
a hostile takeover situation or whatever. I just start wondering
what type of maybe possibilities of issues could you run
into going down this road, especially if it's not relation
driven between the owners and and the people that come
in within the private equity stake you know investment.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, No, I think it brings up a bunch of
questions more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I mean, if you.

Speaker 3 (18:54):
Think about it, if they're putting a cap on it
at ten percent, you know how many private equity can
companies are doing it for their traditional model of making money,
whether where they're looking at the IRR, they're looking at
the return on their investment and cash flow and eband
odd growth, all these like metrics and things they're going
to look at in a normal deal or is just

(19:15):
a vanity play, like like you're kind of talking about
where you've got a limited piece or partnership on this
team and you get to walk around the sidelines and
you know, look cool and be a part of it
and be around professional athletes, and maybe that's enough for
some of these private equity companies. I would think if
you're Roger Goodell and you're talking to the teams and
the ownership groups, you've got to be saying to them like, hey, look,

(19:39):
we want to find people who are going to be
good partners, you know, good stewards that are part of.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
The NFL that can help increase value in some way.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
And for some of these owners, you know, maybe it's
just the fact that, look, it's hard to run a profit,
believe it or not. When you're running a professional sports franchise,
even at the NFL level, as much money as they're making,
it's still expensive with all of the employees that you're
going to have all the expenditures that come along with it,
whether it's maintaining a facility, a stadium, both everything else

(20:08):
that comes along with it. It's harder to run a
profit that people realize, and the windfall that most ownership
groups have. You know, when they're able to cash in
finally on the increased valuation of their team is when
they sell off equity. And so if you're able to
sell off a piece of it, whether it's to private

(20:28):
equity or someone else, that is that's.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Really your biggest payday. Or when you sell the franchise altogether.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
You know, that's when you really make real money and
realize a lot of what you've put into the team.
So that's the hard part is for some of these families,
for some of these teams, they might be saying, like,
hey man, we're kind of ready to cash out on
some of this, Like we're good, we've enjoyed it. But
maybe I've got a son or a daughter that doesn't
want to run it, and so there's no reason to
hold on to it any longer.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
I've run to sell it off now.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
You know, see some of the fruits of my labor
and run this franchise and pass along to someone else
who can kind of help us in that regard. Or
maybe they've got a better play in this world of
data analytics that can help apply to all of this, right,
And that's the other thing is maybe it brings them
more up to speed in some ways.

Speaker 5 (21:14):
I kind of looked at it that way also in
terms of being able to I don't think that this
is a play to maybe infuse money into what they're doing.
I think it's a play to pool some of the
money out in terms of what they have going on.
That was definitely a thought that I had was if
you're bringing in, you know, private investors, that that would

(21:36):
be maybe a catalyst of doing it.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
I think the other thing too, you have to think
about is as the NFL keeps pushing for this twenty
five billion dollar mark of revenue, all that comes with
increased value in the franchisees. So for all these owners,
like they're introducing the concept or idea now probably to
see what you know, put some feelers out to see
who would be interested in doing it, and you'll eventually

(22:01):
get to a point where once the for example, use
the Dallas Cowboys, what's their franchise.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Worth eight billion?

Speaker 3 (22:09):
I mean is that what how you do that kind
of look at them on the books, and if that's
the case, you're saying someone can give you know, up
to you know, ten percent, Well, if that's if that
valuation increases the next four years to ten billion, you
know that ten percent is a lot greater, like that
infusion of cash is a lot bigger. So it's also
behew of the NFL to keep pushing to get the

(22:31):
valuations higher and higher and higher. And obviously one of
the ways is doing that is continued to keep growing,
whether that's eighteen games or twenty games at some point.
But the other interesting thing that came out from all
of this, and we were talking about Roger Getell's interview
with CNBC and and obviously the idea of private equity ownership,
but the impact of the NFL Draft. The numbers have

(22:54):
come out. It's estimated that Detroit had over twitter million
dollars of economic stimulus just for economic activity just generated
from the draft, which is incredible when you think about
what the idea was initially leaving New York taking its
city to city kind of having these different bids and

(23:15):
these different cities awarded with it. All the fans that
showed up in Detroit this past year was incredible, Like,
kudos to you guys for showing up, showing out for
your teams, but also the impact that it's had on
those cities. And it's not a super Bowl, which I
think is closer to around five hundred and six hundred
million of economic activity, but it's getting close. And obviously

(23:37):
it's not as long an event either, but to be
able to in just a matter of a few days
time had that sort of impact, it's huge. It's crazy, right,
and that's only going to continue to grow, I think
for some of the cities that probably will not have
the opportunity to host a super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
But I mean it's awesome to see when you hear
those numbers, right, Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
I mean Detroit is one of those those cities that
has been trying to you know, they've dealt with the
water issues, they've they've dealt with you know, closing, you
know what's going on and in the car industry and
everything that, you know, production wise, and you know the
meals they they've just it's it's been a city that's
needed a boost. So to hear two hundred million just

(24:21):
based off of one one event and it being the Draft,
not even the super Bowl, I think that's pretty impressive.
And I think it's a pretty good indicator as to
you know, some of the things that we talk about,
like the Pro Bowl. Moveing is like, God, you take
a take a risk, take a chance, you test it,
vetted to see if it worked. It didn't work, you know,

(24:41):
just didn't work, didn't feel the same, didn't didn't you know,
play out the same way as as what it was
in Hawaii. But moving the draft, I think has has
been a tremendous Obviously it's a tremendous win. I think
it feels like a tremendous win. Know, having the ability as

(25:02):
a city to to generate tourism, you know, use it
as an attraction for for that one moment in time
and maximize the opportunity you have the opportunity to host
it and and and give that uh you know, just
that that reception to the people who visit. I think

(25:22):
they hit a home run on on how they've they've
now structured doing the NFL Draft. And and like I said,
as someone who knows quite a few people that are
Detroit people and and Michigan people.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Good good for good for Detroit.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
It's great for the city of Detroit to have had
something to give them a boost the way that the
NFL draft did this year.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
So next year's in Green Bay.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I I hate to admit it, I feel like it's
gonna be hard to replicate what happened in Detroit this
this past draft.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Is that is that?

Speaker 3 (25:56):
I mean, look, Lee is a resident Green Bay Packers expert. Lee,
you're probably there wearing a cheesehead? Are just any way
they get close to that there?

Speaker 8 (26:05):
Well, I just don't think you could possibly generate that
much people.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Was it two hundred thousand fans or something that had
come through the draft there?

Speaker 8 (26:13):
Yeah, exactly, So I don't think you could possibly recreate
that in Green Bay. But I mean it's I guess equivalent,
I mean per per capita. I mean it's gonna be
kind of similar, if that makes any sense. It's gonna
be huge.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
But that's I mean, it's in a resident The stadium's
in a residential area. Is the draft taking place at
the stadium? Where is it taking place?

Speaker 9 (26:35):
I believe it's gonna be at the stadium.

Speaker 8 (26:37):
And because they have one of those big concourses or
what do they call it, the atrium?

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Yeah, the atriums. Yeah, So I just you know what
it comes down to, and I think this is probably
goes into the selection process as well. You gotta show
a plan as to how you're gonna go about doing it,
you know, you gotta you got to prove that bringing
it here, you guys are going to be good store
where it's over what it is that we're building, like,

(27:02):
don't don't kill our momentum. And so they probably have
a plan, I mean, the tourists board or whatever that like.
They've probably working with UH, with government to to figure
out how how to best present you know, Green Bay,
Wisconsin and and and what that looks like, what what

(27:23):
what needs to be done, like from streets being shut
down to you name it, traffic patterns to what the
attractions are going to be. There's probably a lot of
I mean a ton of planning that goes into why
you're able to be awarded you know, let alone the
super Bowl, but why you're able now to be awarded

(27:45):
the even the draft. So they probably got it figured out.
It'd be interesting to see because again it's not very
city where where the stadium is. I know, the casino
is nearby, there's some eateries that are nearby, but the
most part you're driving through homes to get to lambeau Field,
like you're literally driving, you know, and and people are

(28:07):
you know, in front of their homes, like you're you're
driving through a residential area. So I don't know that
that'll be an interesting one to see how that all works.
A lot of you know, parking lot pimping with with
your your own driveway, you know, like hey, twenty dollars
the park here to go to the stadium type stuff,
I mean, which they probably already do that for the games.

(28:29):
They know how that.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
Yeah, yeah, right now I'm planning my trip to uh
Green Bay later this season. I'm trying to find flights.
Do you guys usually fly in through O'Hare or Milwaukee.
Obviously you could go straight to Green Bay, but it's.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
A little more. There's Detroit, There's there's O'Hare.

Speaker 3 (28:44):
There's a number of i mean bigger airports that that
do have direct flights flying right there into Green Bay.
Green Base doesn't have a huge airport, but that would
be the easiest way for you coming from LA to
get there is through one of those two. Milwaukee I
wouldn't imagine has quite as many flights. And if you
do go to Milwaukee, I believe the drive isn't that far.
So I think if you flew direct to Milwaukee, you

(29:06):
probably drive from there, and you could from I'm sure
from Chicago as well, but you might as well just
take a little puddle jopp er to go over if
that's the case.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
That is.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
But it's like, so it's an extra hour drive from
O'Hare to to Milwaukee, or it's like a six hour
delay that I got to like sit in the airport.
So I think I'm just gonna go to Chicago and
then drive.

Speaker 9 (29:24):
All the way.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Which what's the drive from Chicago.

Speaker 9 (29:26):
It's like three hours from Chicago to Green Bay.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
It's not too bad. I can't even a six hour delay.

Speaker 9 (29:32):
I know.

Speaker 8 (29:32):
Well yeah, just to get just to just to fly
from Chicago to Milwaukee, I can't even get a too
green Bay.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Well, you wouldn't need to fly to Milwaukee. You could
fly to Green Bay.

Speaker 9 (29:43):
Yeah, but then the price jumps extravagantly.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Well how about this, Lee, Just spend a little less
on booze and then I think we can figure out
from there.

Speaker 8 (29:51):
Dang, I think as a non starter, Brady, I don't
know about that one non negotiable.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Just start backing it away now, I mean you've got
an entire it's not though April of twenty twenty five,
So I think we're good. I think you can go
ahead and you know, just start packing away a little
bit here.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
They're a little less booze here and there, maybe not
as as heavy on delivery Wednesdays.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
And then we just we work towards April twenty twenty five,
you know, stashue something that away.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Okay, all right, well we'll do that. But no, but
the game I'm going to is actually, uh November. I'm
going to the Niners Packers game.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
So that's the flight you're talking about, yeah, raft, yeah, yeah,
but you're gonna go to both, are you?

Speaker 9 (30:29):
Oh yeah, I'm going to both.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Okay, and by the way, this is November, you still
have time to prepare and say for that too.

Speaker 9 (30:35):
I'll start working on it this week.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Yes, if you just take off like well, you drink
really cheap stuff, so it might take you like what
a month of savings.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (30:43):
Yeah, well I'm gonna get a lot of spotted cat
while I'm out there, and uh yeah, no, I'll start
putting it away. Yeah, spotted cow, spotted cow beer out
in uh oh.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Right, right right, Wisconsin. Spotted cow.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I love how you're already planning your drinking there.

Speaker 9 (30:57):
Oh I'm gonna have to This is gonna be a
big one.

Speaker 2 (31:01):
Oh my gosh. Well thank you for that last. Speaking
of by the way, uh, we'll get.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
More lead to lap coming up next, but let's get
all the latest round the NFL or excuse on the
sports role with Eddie Garcia.

Speaker 10 (31:15):
I did have the pleasure of going to Lambeau to
see the Chargers.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Of course, how do you think this is going to go?

Speaker 5 (31:22):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I think I'll have an awesome time. I enjoyed it
a lot. Oh no, no, not the game, the draft.

Speaker 10 (31:29):
Oh well, it is going to be an interesting setting
because it's so rural, as you guys are talking about.
I think the event itself will be be interesting. But
as far as what you're going to do other than
the event and what's available for you, that'll be that'll
be interesting to see how it figures out. But we
did for the game. We did park in somebody's front

(31:50):
yard and they gave us a broad. They were grilling out,
grilling up broads of course, as we parked the car
and they say like here have it broad, Like all right, thanks,
appreciate that, so now it's fun.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It was fun though. That's probably what you get when
you have to pay like forty bucks for parking there.

Speaker 10 (32:03):
Right, Well, I guess it was at least they could do. Yeah, yeah,
exactly there and they enjoy football season there, that's for sure.
In a lot of ways, baseball season is still going
on as we are approaching the All Star break. We
had a battle of division leaders going on at Philadelphia,
this one all Phillies as the NL East leaders wrap
up a sweep of the NL West leading Dodgers. They
win five to one. In the finale did Philadelphia Pirates

(32:25):
over the Brewers one nothing. Pittsburgh rookie All Star pitcher
Paul Skeens had a no hitter going through seven innings
and then he got pulled after ninety nine pitches. Milwaukee
then broke up the no hitter with a couple of
hits off of the Pirates bullpen. For Skeens though, seven innings,
no runs, no hits, eleven strikeouts and Alwaukee six and
zero on the season, and I gotta think he's going
to start the All Star Game for the National League.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
We'll see. Now.

Speaker 10 (32:46):
Back to LaVar Arrington and Brady Quinn on the tyrack
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Speaker 2 (32:50):
Thanks Eddy.

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Speaker 2 (33:31):
Little over unders with Lee to lap Lee.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Time to put your money where your mouth is. I
have been losing on you a lion, low life gamely
genuine it's over under.

Speaker 9 (33:45):
That's right, fellas. We got a little over unders.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (33:47):
Plenty of stuff to this weekend to get to, including
some Copa America. We got Canada versus Daguay on FS
one that's going to be tomorrow, and the over under
for this is at two and a half.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I'm gonna take the over. I'm gonna take the under.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
I think it could be like a two oh type scenario.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
One oh type scenario should be tight.

Speaker 8 (34:15):
Now, sticking with Copo America, we have a game on
Fox on Sunday that's at the over unders one and
a half between Argentina and Colombia.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
I suppose you're not talk abot how he fights there
on the stands after what we saw, I'm taking over
what you say it was.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
One and a half, Yeah, i'll take you over as well.

Speaker 9 (34:33):
Yeah, if it's a brawl, does that just count as
one fight? You know you don't take brawl.

Speaker 5 (34:36):
No, you gotta count all of the fights that are
taking places, with all of.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
The connections to You really need to dive into this league. Okay,
grab a beer. I know you're not afraid of doing that,
and I need you to dissect every single time you
see a guy land like an overhead right overhand rider,
like a left hook down.

Speaker 9 (34:53):
Yeah, I'll tell all, tell all on up. I'm sure
there's a I could maybe create a sight.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
On that and slaps cout too, But as I gotta
go back through what I saw, they there were some
backhands being things served out there.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
It was kind of interesting. You don't see the kicks
too much though in Maylee.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
But well, it's hard. It stands a lot of room. Yeah,
that's true. Some people pull it off. Now.

Speaker 8 (35:14):
I'm gonna load up a little bit heavier than we
were used to. On soccer, we got the Euro twenty
twenty four final also on Fox. That's gonna be playing
right before Argentina versus Columbia. But it's between Spain and
England again. The Euro Final on Fox this Sunday, two
and a half.

Speaker 5 (35:28):
I'm gonna take the under.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, under, Yeah, low scoring.

Speaker 9 (35:34):
Affair probably, I hope, I hope more than that. But
all right, seems to.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Play kind of tighten these final mashups. You know that's true.

Speaker 8 (35:41):
That's true. Fellas Bronnie James. He made his way back
to the court. He only had three points versus the
heat the other night. He's gonna be back playing tonight
versus the Rockets, and is over under is at.

Speaker 9 (35:52):
Four and a half.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
I'm gonna take that over all. You think, so four
and a half he's got it. He hasn't yet. There's
gotta be a point of where he does. I mean
four and a half isn't too too hard to get above.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
If you said rebounds, I take the over, I'm not.
I gotta see it first.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I feel like he's had a hard sign finding his
rhythm right now, and I don't think he's gonna get
that many easy layups.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
I mean you have to hit a three. I'm just
taking Under on four points and a half. Yes, so
he could have four points that half.

Speaker 9 (36:28):
Flight delays for Jones. Before the end of the week
and a half.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
We're up against Under.

Speaker 9 (36:35):
Oh we still got two Jesus, so we're not closely.
I sorry, Lorena had run out of the room because
of me. That was my fault.

Speaker 8 (36:44):
Well, if you'd start farting so much, gosh, I was
getting ready for this segment.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
I couldn't leave the mic over rounders of how many
times have.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
I don't deserve this control room? Can we just break
this down for a second? Leave what did you eat
last night?

Speaker 9 (37:00):
I made a very healthy, nice salmon and rice.

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Dish, very healthy.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
The last thing, lots of peppers, and stuff though. That
is the last thing I hate. And it was a
late dinner.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
What's the late dinner? Do you subscribe?

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Do you subscribe to not holding your flatulations in those moments,
like you know, is it like I'm not going to
make my belly hurt type of thing or can you
just not hold it?

Speaker 9 (37:27):
I think I just am very comfortable around around Lorena.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Not fair.

Speaker 9 (37:34):
I worry about our gut health. Okay, I worry.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Real quick, Lorena.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Are you okay with this because it kind of more
matters if you're okay with leaves absolutely dumping out?

Speaker 2 (37:43):
No studio.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
No.

Speaker 9 (37:44):
I threw things at him this time.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
And I'm actually going to take the poopery that I
have stopped in the bathroom and I'm going to bring
it in here.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yes, I think it works that way. Do I have
to spread it on water?

Speaker 9 (37:53):
I know you spray it on bad smells?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I thought. I think you just get some cups of
water and spread in that. See if that'll help he
spring like a cat.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Go outside, bro.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
The other thing is I love how you try to
offset the lack of of of health based on your
consumption of alcohol with like rice and salmon, like a
nice healthy meal.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
It was a nice, healthy, nice healthy.

Speaker 5 (38:16):
Meanwhile, over under one how many times Lee has to
go to the restroom before the show is over? And
one a half.

Speaker 9 (38:25):
I'll take the over all right, we might hit the
over right now over.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
You know it's wrong with you, Lee,
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