July 16, 2024 • 45 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Home Run Derby gets hijacked by the worst National Anthem ever. Terrell Davis gets embarrassed by a flight attendant. And SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey maintains they’re sticking with 16-teams, but are we buying it?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It's the best of two pros and with lamar As,
Rady Winn and Jonas Knox on Box Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we had the home run Derby last night. How
was that?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I thought it was exciting. Did you guys not like it?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
I mean, I mean I did not like it. I
just didn't watch it gradually. Uh, I mean what did
I not like it? I had to watch it to
like it.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
I wanted to highlight the formats changed though it was
kind of interesting. It was a you had forty pitches,
which here's what I don't like about it. There's three
minutes or forty pitches, which ever comes first. So it
was kind of fast pace, which means part of the
onus too, by the way, is on the pitcher. And
so Bobby widd Junior, who I think he had someone
(00:57):
Russell was pitching to him.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He was a lefty. Even though he made it to
the finals.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
I thought wher was throwing to him did an awful job.
Like it was pretty apparent in the first round where
he kind of barely made it through the next round
that he.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Wasn't getting a lot of help.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Like you're out there at a home run derby competition,
and you can't somehow get the pitch you want to
try to knock one out of the park.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's a problem.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
Yeah, it feels like there's more pressure on the pitcher
than there is the actual batter because you just for
sure if you just groove it in there, those guys
don't even look like there's any effort to their swing.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It just turn and burn.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
And they get they get into a rhythm and it's over.
Like it's just every swing it's out, it's gone, see
you next one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Like it's incredible to watch.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
But that being said, like they had the whole bonus
round where it went back to the old traditional way
where you have three outs, but if you hit one
a certain distance you get an additional opportunity. Then that's
what it came down to. Bobby Witch Junior actually ended
up hitting one late with two outs to get an
additional an additional out, two outs essentially to hit one
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home run to tie to to win it, and with
his last out he smacked one. I mean it was
deep towards center but hit off the wall, so pretty
dramatic finish.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, it was fun. Nice a dollar Scarcia.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
I'd love to know what that guy's workout is because
he is joked up. Yeah, all those guys are seemed
like they spent a lot of time. Yeah, real strong form, Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Like Maguire back in the day, though, I did like.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Very few people have their you know, strong form wrapped
around the wood like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I did.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Like Ken Griffy Junior was up there and he was
just like they were talking to him like, hey, you know,
so what was your strategy this and that? You know,
At this point he goes, well, no, I mean we
got ten swings and that was it. He's like, this
was not This was completely different from when we played
it and when we did it, and so it's technically true,
Well there are ten outs, Like yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Ten ounce is a lot easier if you can at least, like,
you know, be able to take your pitch and take
your time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
With all of them.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No break, They just had to go up there and
start hacking.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Yeah, but again, the old way is better in my opinion,
because look, these guys were gassed. So after a minute
and a half, they try to take a break somewhere
after twenty pitches or a minute and a half, because
I mean, you're up there just swinging, and you gonna
kind of swing at everything. I think it's now to
rely on the pitcher to groove them like some strikes or.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Groove them balls. And I don't like that portion of it.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
They got to find a fine line or just go
with the clock if that's the case. But don't do
a number of pitches because some guys actually had like
maybe ten seconds fifteen seconds, which gives them two or
three more throws that they wouldn't have had otherwise with
the forty.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So it almost need to just go to the clock
and keep it there.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, Now let's get to the real conversation. That wasn't
the real one.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
No, no, no, this is a tra.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Ingrid and dress. Yeah, not familiar. Four time.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Winner nominee.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Okay, gotcha, gotcha? It makes sense, doesn't Yeah, four time
Grammy nominee. I can't imagine if she would have lost
out on all those four But she was singing the
national anthem.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh yeah, and I heard about that.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Uh yeah, yeah, I know about this lee which which
do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Here?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Card? Any car? Do you want? All right?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
So let's hear a little bit of the national anthem
from Ingrid and dress.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Uh oh, that ain't nothing but that new auto tune.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So bro, that's that was awful.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Yeah, that sound it wasn't too bad at all. That
sounds like something bad as that sounds like somebody put
their dog in the electric chairs. When it sounded like
that was.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It was horrendous that I listened to it live.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I honestly thought they gave an opportunity to, you know,
someone who's like, never done it before.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's like a make a wish or some situation going on.
It was bad.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
I thought the same thing, like I had my head
down and then I looked up and I was like,
is this real? Like I thought there was something wrong
with my TV speakers, And then I just kept watching
and the look on everybody's face was like, what what
is happening here? And even Karl Ravitch couldn't. I think
he made a comment afterwards because nobody, nobody could figure it.
(06:16):
Like I thought it was a joke. I thought, Okay,
well is this I thought, also, is this somebody that's
from another country that's doing this? And then I realized,
well that would be dumb. Why would they bring somebody
from another country into sing our national anthem, like I
sort of got all these thoughts are going through my
head and then I just realized, Oh no, it just sucked.
That's all it was, Eddie Garcia, you were outraged by this.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I just want to share an honest to God's story.
It was.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
It was playing upstairs. I was downstairs. I thought something
was happening with my dog. Yes, I thought my dog
was like distress, yelping or something.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
What it was, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I swear to you. I swear that's what I thought.
All right, who did it? Better? Let me let me
hear you, right.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Kenny.
Speaker 9 (07:14):
By, Yeah, listen, I would say for that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Better generated original one lizard, the first one.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't want to keep living this.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
You should let me tell you something like singing our
national anthem, there should be like you should get fined
if you it up, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
If you usould be like tryouts like major League Baseball.
If you ever listen to.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Her, if you decide that you're going to sing our
national anthem and you're going to sing it this way,
you should get fined. They should have came, They should
have escorted her off. Don't even let her finish, don't
even don't even don't even let her finish, have a
(08:29):
recording ready to go, played the recording, escort her off
and give her a fine.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Security should have tackenang that they.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Should just tackled and taken her down, all right, Someone said,
should have said.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
We were not gonna let this happen national anthem.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Like this should or conspiracy theory side of me is
that Major League Baseball hired someone that was going to
be viral and so awful that was only up from there.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Dang okay, he said, I'm just well.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Bursting in air.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
So so what if if Ingrid wins and is onto
the final, who will she be competing against?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
None other than the goat?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh? Better than her? Still better?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Can you see? Oh the land?
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Yeah, but you know what, at least there was acknowledgment
in the moment. This is a crap bag you guys
are getting right now, you know what?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
So at least, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna make up
for it this time. If he acknowledge it in real time.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
The vocal range like, don't go up there, Carl, don't
don't go up all the way there.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Carl's was bad, but like over time you're like, you know, hey, no,
there's something.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Can I put it this way, like when you hear
Carl Lewis sing, I go, oh, he's got he's got
a voice, like he can sing. He might have missed
the high page height. I mean, that's that's tough for
a lot. Yeah, let's go back to Ingrid Andres.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let's here.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Right there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You already lost me. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I don't want to go all in. I don't uses.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Of a rich girl who may have been told by
her parents she was good at something when it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
For a long time.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
When you get that auto time, it's homeschooled and they thought,
oh this is a great idea.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
It's good for platform and or following, and then this
is what it turns out to be.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like that.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
This is like someone being coddled to a certain age
and not being told you're not very good. But they're
probably there's probably some someone behind her so wealthy they
keep throwing money at it to get her to be
able to be on a stage like this.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I think she's going to go viral and become famous.
If Shorty Girl could become famous with Hakua, well, you can.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Back up that you could jack up this song and
become if you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Want to be real through if you want to be real?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Bro, is that famous just because you go like, being
viral and being famous, to me are not the same.
Like you're going to viral for something that like, all right,
you made some comment about you know where we can't
even get into what was, and so you go viral that.
That doesn't make you famous. There's no talent, there's no skill,
there's there's nothing to that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well people said that about the car.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
And and now they're really famous for real.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, there's there's a talent. It's something there is.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Apparently she's got the same time.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
It's called open mic.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
But I just I look at it and I go
and I see, I see the reaction, and I keep
waiting for her to release a statement or something like that,
and I think she's.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Gonna release one.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I hope to How about this, how about this, Let's
do this, Let's give her the benefit of the doubt.
All right, I've been tough on her, ingrid Andre's on
dress dress. Let's listen to one of her songs, maybe
a single, she asked, tell me, okay, let's do that
and let's see if that's made.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Let's see what she got. Okay, she's one of them
type singers. Okay, what type singers that we to.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Get hagh smoke weed tour.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, you get half drink, you get drunk.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
This this should be played in gemo. I mean that
is that still open? Like they punish prisoners this way?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Dang, just sick.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
She actually doesn't sound bad here.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Now that's because you're it's the comp to what we
just heard, so anything would sound better. Carl Lewis sounded better.
It's not a bad it's not that bad. She's just
I mean, she just should in the trap to sing
that other song. That song sucked and so did her rendition.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I didn't say that it was a great song.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I just she didn't sound as bad as she did
sing in the National Anthem.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
And by the way, when they give out awards for
the Grammys, is it like somebody finishes last and then
somebody finishes in fourth place and like do.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They like that? Yeah? I just want to know, like
how far down.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
And we haven't been up for an award at all.
We'll think about it and we can't get any help.
I mean, and We've asked Lee to, like, you know,
put our names in that, and.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's what they say.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It's up's up to Lee.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What is going on here? Oh you're watching? Uh this
is next.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
To Ken No, that's uh what is why Blake?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
What is he doing?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Du road out the Double Douce? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wow, they're at the Double Douce right now. Good Google, Google.
I mean he's adjusting the temperatures in the room.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Guys, just uh, all all about it? Well listen. Uh, hey,
welcome to All Star Game festivities in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And glad they gave us a lead off story.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Otherwise I mean, I just you know, I don't know.
I thought this was entertaining. Just any any response, do
it in print. We've heard what you had to say,
and we don't need to hear that again. Just tweet it,
write it, put it out there, and then we'll get
we'll get the very latest on her response to all this.
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Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hey man, I would sue if I was TD.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Okay, good, I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I wanted to get missed at some point.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, unbelievable. It's just too much. Like we joke about
this all the time. I'm suing two pros and a
couple of radio jonas.
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Get those radio formatics.
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Terrell Davis was arrested on a flight from Denver to
Orange County, which is a short flight his tell me
if I'm missing something here. Apparently the guy that was
walking by during drink service, he was with his family,
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his wife and his kids.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He's sitting with his son. His son wanted a cup
of ice.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Flight attendant ignored the request.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yes, so he tapped him on the back of the arm.
The guy said, don't hit me. He did the flight
attendant and then went up towards the front. Terrell Davis
and the people around Terrell Davis, according to him, were
surprised at his reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And then when they landed, everybody stay seated, and then
they coughed him.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And the FBI got involved, and they took him off
and questioned him and then later found that he was
in No.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
He wasn't in the wrong. Oh that's fine. Then he
just got humiliated in front of eye. Correct, you know,
no harm, no foul. We're just going to arrest your ass. Listen, man,
haul you off. Why don't fly now?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know what airline?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
By the way? United? Yeah? There you go.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What what's wrong?
Speaker 6 (17:47):
It's just interesting the discrepancy between like, I mean, they've
beaten people off of a plane before, but if you
touch them or tap them now all of a sudden,
it's assault.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And you're hitting them. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I don't know, man, But there I do feel like
the flight attendants for whatever reason, maybe this was through
COVID because they had to ask so many people to
wear their masks.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Pay back up a power trip and here and here's
the thing is I try to give them always the
benefit of the doubt because their first job is the
safety the well being of the passengers. It's not to
be a waiter or waitress. That is not their job.
Like people tend to get on a plane and think
like they're gonna wait on you. That's not what their
job is. They're there to provide medical assistance. They're there
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to provide, you know, help in case of an emergency.
That that's why they're there. It's not to get you
a drink or your food or a snack or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So I get it.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
But I travel a lot, man, and I would say
in general, and it's not any interactions I have with
flight attendants because I just keep my mouth shut and
just kind of put my headphones on, head down, watch
some film, want read a book.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Or something, and how they got obj.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But we trust me.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
When I'm sitting exit row or something else, I usually respond,
but there is like a power trip going on. It's
crazy to me. I've seen it so many times, and
even like I guess I'll tell this story, like even
you know, for example, like you know, I have status
on a lot of airlines, so I'll get upgrades and whatnot.
And if you are like sitting in first class, like
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one of the connections I had was like a little
bit late getting to it, and you should see how
like I was like like trying to find a spot
for my bag, and the treatment from the staff before
they knew where my seat was was entirely different. Then
when I put my bag down on my seat and
went to sit down, it was like, oh, oh, I'm sorry,
Like we didn't know you were sitting there.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I'm like, why should it be any different?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Like why would you treat me any different than any
other person on this plane just because where I'm sitting Now, Like,
there's so many things the airline industry needs to fix,
but flight attendant's attitude is definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
One of them.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Now, how many autographs have you given to a flight attendant?
Like would you say, I don't know why would that
be your question. I just want to know, because I mean,
we're talking about one status. We're talking about status. Let's
really talk about status. I don't feel like maybe you
would get as much heat as anybody else because they realize,
wait a second, that's the star of Big New Kickoff.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
What is wrong?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We're not going to mess around here.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
This is the direction you wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I was a Big New Kickoffs.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I'm like, you know, it's you know, you and Rob
Stone battling it out head to head to try and
see who gets a better status. I don't I literally
don't know the difference between United Delta American, Like, it's
never EASi.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
You don't travel, Like these are subjects you can't even
talk about because you literally don't travel.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Okay, so then what is it? Just the service?
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Is it?
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Everybody?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
The good ones are the good ones, the bad ones
are the bad ones. That's just what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, Like Delta, you get Wi Fi.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You can get Wi Fi for free, right, you don't
have to pay for seventeen bucks or whatever. I mean
they were literally, I mean price gouge the crap out
of you for Wi Fi a plane. You know, other airlines,
disc and airlines it's not as bad, but there's just
I mean that the seats, you know that, the plane cleanliness,
everything else, how new it is?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, some different standards they put you on the nineteen
seventies play you said there, like I tell you how
much to be sitting there on.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
It like soul playing like cigarette cigarette smoke ash trays
right there and the gat dang on, what are we
doing here talking about no smoking?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Why you got astraight here? That is interesting? Like I
didn't even think about that. There is the light up
there that says no smoking all over the place. What
are you doing when they're good? They're good like by airline,
Like I you know, I've had.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
My issues with with across the board. But it's it's again,
it's what you said. It's the customer service of its situation.
So Delta is better than United is I'm not getting
Delta is the best to message?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, So I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
I actually would say like it's Delta then kind of
a gap and then like an American then probably United louds.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Let's say there's a round trip flight for five hundred dollars,
just throw a number out there on Delta, but you
can get the same flight from United for two point
fifty is it worth? So it's not even worth the
half off to sit with no idea?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, because here's the I mean, we're literally having a
conversation that's so meaningless to sports talk the problem. Here's
what because it doesn't matter. But here's what I would
advise people on. You want status with an airline, so
you want to fly the same airline as much as possible,
so you get points, you get status, you get miles
and all that stuff. That's what you want because that'll
help you get to like upgrades faster and status on
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airline faster where you get perks out of it, like
the Delta lounges if you're stuck on a you know,
long delay.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Those things are awesome, good food, drinks, all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
So I would still say, like, whatever you fly, just
fly because you'll get at least the opportunity to go
the lounge and access to the services.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
So United is the Carolina Panthers of the.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well. I don't know if you know that far discount
airlines you put below that, I'm sorry this happened to you.
That's what we need to get back to yeah, I'm
sorry this happened. I hope he.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Wins, man, I hope he Susan wins, because could you
imagine being a Hall of Famer a dude who like
literally taps someone on the shoulder and then they're trying
to arrest you in front of everyone.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, that's that's that's out of control, man.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
And if you know t D he's one of the
most soft spoken, most most kind dudes.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Like he's not.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It's not I could see if it was one of
those like he grabbed the arm, and he's like kind
of known for being type of an aggressive type dude
or whatever it may be. But come on, man, Like,
it's just I don't know, like the liberties that some
of these these people take in those positions, it's really
it's it's just it's unfortunate that they think they can
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conduct themselves that way.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Like I'm telling you, man, it's it's attitude. It's weird
power trip about it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Even the TSA people, it's like it's like you, it's
like you can be a kind person. Like I have
met so many kind people being on planes going through security,
and I have met some real d.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Bags, like like, why are you getting so aggressive, sir, Like,
what what do you mean? Why am I being aggressive?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, why are you? Why are you talking like? You
don't have to talk to me that way? What are
you talking about? Man Tsa? I asked you, do I
need to take my belt off? Like?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Why am I being so aggressive? Do I need to
take my belt off?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Or not?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Sometimes you say yes, sometimes you say no?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Which one is it? I see new I see new devices.
You tell me yesterday I need to keep my shoes on.
Now today you're telling me I need to take them off.
I just need to know what you want me to do, sir,
like go it ony?
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Oh no, man A Lee.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Oh though, would you fly on a subpar plane if
it meant saving like fifty percent off what a regular
price would be?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
That's more boost though for me? That's why.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, you just kind of take yourself before you get on.
That's all?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
How about this though, same scenario, five hundred dollars flight
on Delta unlimited drinks though for that ticket two fifty
on United not unlimited, you get a paper drink.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's a good question, and it comes down to the trip,
and it comes down to how far I'm going, So
you probably go with the with the drinks, especially the
longer than.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I'm gonna say it's a minimum three hour flight.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Oh yeah, then we're going the We're going delta therest
of ball. That's a lie. I've flown with enough times
to know there's not a shot in hell he's not
walking onto that plane without a ziplock full of mini bottles.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
So he would save the money and he'd be drinking
Evan Williams from start to finish on that flight.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's a good call, Jonas. I think you're right. I'm
gonna go United.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Is that allowed through TSA though, through TSA any flight,
as long as it's in a ziplo liquid, any liquid,
it's as long as the bottle's lower than what the
three and a half hours.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
I've got a problem with.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
That because you could get some people who are underage
sneaking it through and it's not like TSA is checking you.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's good.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I guess that's more on the onus of whoever sold
it to you. But I'm just saying, like I would
not think you'd be allowed to take alcohol onto a plane,
regardless of the size.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I mean you are not allowed to open said ziplock
bag and drink it on the plane.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But you know, I don't know, Lee, are you saying
you do this?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Yeah, And that's why he is savage time, by the way,
and that is why Terrell Davis was assaulted on a
fause people sneaking a bottle of seagrums onto a flight
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so they have to.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Pay in their first class.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I mean, there's no possible way that there was a
reason for for him to be smuggling, by the way,
smuggling liquors.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
You should have seen how many many bottles he brought
to Ireland. It was one of those freezers h blocked backs.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He had.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
How many did you have in there?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Like ten?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I mean we were there, we were there for
a few days, so I had to bring variety.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
He's got he's got cargoes, shorts so he can put
him in each of his pockets when he goes to
sit back down.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's real.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
For those listening who are wondering, why the hell we're
talking about this right now, this is Jonas.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
This is all let us down.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
This gutt hold on a second, LeVar brought up Terrell Davis.
This was.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
That was sports talk.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That was hour one.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Yes, it's sports talk And the only reason we were
on a flight.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You went to Lee and Lee's drinking.
Speaker 12 (28:19):
Problems and because he's American and I feel like, you
know the t s A and goes right in with it,
like yeah, Janus, like let's talk about Lee, be right
there with it.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Some people call it a problem. I called a solution.
There you go, there you go, there you go, there
you go. Option. How about option?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Joe just loves hearing Lee's stories about boost.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
It's just because I want to live vicariously through him,
because it is the social life I have.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Now, Lee's tray table looks like it's.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Trash day when people are dragging the trash cans outside
of the curb and they've just got like a bunch
of just trash backs field of wrap that overflow.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's essentially at least.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 7 (29:14):
So SEC Media Days is going down. Greg Sankei is
the Commissioner of the SEC and according to him, expansion
at this point in time with the additions of Texas
and Oklahoma, they're not looking past it. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 13 (29:35):
Time engaged in that recruiting activity because we're focused on
our sixteen and I want to be respectful of the
difficulty that's currently faced with that issue, that set of
issues within the ACC and my colleague Jim Phillips. We're
focused on our sixteen period. You've seen how we've made
decisions over the last decade plus for contiguous states to join.
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I think that's incredibly wise. It provides remarkable strength. The
last three questions are part of the reality, which is
I've responded now three times where our focus lies. Our
focus is on our sixteen members. I have a responsibility
to pay attention and I'm certainly not going to fuel
speculation on what happens next.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
So they are happy and content. Sixteen is there today,
sixteen is there tomorrow. According to Greg SANKEI are you
buying the idea that this is going to be what
it is with the SEC at least for the short
time with the remainder of the season coming up in
the conference moving forward?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I mean I do, at least in the short term.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Long term, I'm not sure how you go about defining that,
but I keep trying to explain to people it's not
about so much even the conferences in their decision, It's
more about the TV networks behind it, because that's who's
pushing for realignments so they can control.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And have media rights to it.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
So, if you are ESPN or Disney in this case,
and you have the exclusive rights to the SEC, why
would you want to pay more for Florida State or
Clemson to add to the SEC when you already own
the ACC you have the rights to them as well.
So what would be the point of having those two
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teams since they want to leave the ACC just to
be able to have those brands. I mean, if it
made financial sense, they would have already moved them by
now that's the truth. I mean there's probably a lot
of Florida State fans and Clemson fans who don't want
to hear that, or even just in general college football fans,
But Texas and Oklahoma were worth it those brands, the
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people who watched, the way they're able to attract viewership
that leads to advertiser dollars, it was worth it to
be able to get those two in the SEC. So
realignment is as dependent up on the TV network's decision
behind the scenes to want them to go to conferences
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as much as anything else. And so even if Florida
State and Clemson want to leave, they're gonna look for
greener pastures because clearly, in this specific case, even though
we're talking the SEC, we're really talking about those two schools.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And you know, because there are two of the.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Bigger brands that have been making waves to wanting to
get out of their agreement with the ACEC.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
So there's three options. They'll probably either move to the
Big Twelve, which seems most likely.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Brett Yormark to me is one of the best commissioners
in college sports. He's progressive, he's thoughtful, he's ready to
kind of pounce an act, and I think he'd look
at the Big twelve teams that are in there and
I think he said he thinks if he can enhance
it any way, he will. So if you're looking for
a conference to go to that is trying to keep
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up with the Big ten in the SEC and be
proactive about it and its approach, selling the naming rights
to the conference, private equity infusion, all these things. The
Big Twelve was the conference for that, so it would
make some sense there maybe the Big Ten. If you
look at Fox, CBSNBC, I'm sure they'd love to have
brands like Florida State Clemson. It increases their geographic footprint
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as far as where the schools are. That's helpful to
a small degree, but it enhances the games. The problem
is you have to have the conference looking at and say, okay,
we're divving up the pie. Like, does a team like
Rutgers really want Florida State and Clemson coming into the
Big Ten? Does Ohio State care about what Rutgers wants?
Or Michigan Do they care about what Rutgers wants if
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they want Florida State and Clemson in? Does Michigan Ohio
State want Clemson in Florida State in? Do they want
a lesser piece of what they're getting from the TV contract?
So those are questions you have to answer. The other option,
which I kind of go back to the beginning of
all this realignment. Had we just taken football, all football teams,
all football programs instead, let's just go into pay you
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could schedule your schedules however you want and create it,
but work out your own broadcasting rights deal for football.
That would have made every life so much easier for
college sports because every other conference could still exist for.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Everything other than football.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
And then that's the other option, is Florida State Clemson
just leave the ACC they go independent. It's probably unlikely,
but that is one of the other options that they
could go that route in essence, but they need a
financial windfall to be able to leave the ACC if
they're going to get hit with the granted rights, which
obviously penalizes them for doing so. But if they can
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find another way to leave the conference without hitting them
in their wallet, that would be the most likely scenario.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I would just say, simply put, from my perspective, my
angle on it is, there's no reason to disclose any
plans or any ideas what you're entertaining, what you're negotiating,
just on the simple fact that you you never want
to give anybody any unnecessary ammunition or leverage against what
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it is that you're doing. So I think that that's
just it's just a very very I'd say, you know,
rule rule one of the early rules and how you
do business, you don't let people know what your next
move is unless you're strategically letting them know what you're
going to do. So yeah, so we're comfortable with what
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we have until we're not. I mean, it's no different
than how we talk about the eighteenth game that's coming
for the NFL or anything else that's out there. You know,
even before the realignments took place this past year, you know,
when when everything happened with the pack, it's there's no
there's no benefit to allowing people to know unless you
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see the strategic benefit in releasing that information, to allowing
people to know what, Okay, we're going after Florida State, Like, Okay,
that could give Florida State leverage because now you've put
it out there, so you.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Got to get it done. You got to try to
get it done. That's leverage.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
If it's television, whatever it is, their angle is they
now see it coming, they can prepare for it, they
can get into the room, they can talk about it,
plan for it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What does that look like? You're giving people the opportunity
to maybe.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Catch up or get a hit, or be prepared in
a way where it's not advantageous for you, and you're
you're what you're doing for your business with the conference
that you're you're running, so why would you There's no
reason to sit there and put it out there, like,
just keep it, keep it to yourself until you know
what it is that you're going to do do.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
College Does college football still feel like college football to
you guys? Or has it become I don't know if
corporate is the right term, and it's getting corporate. Well,
I don't even know that it's in a worse spot
than it was. It's just different and I just want it.
It's just very different. And I wonder if that different
is a good thing for the sport because like all
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these conversations, you know, we were never having before.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It was about you know, who do you like? What's
what's the season going to look like?
Speaker 7 (37:16):
And it's almost gotten to the point to where and
I think you know, he was frustrated, great Saykie was
frustrated and even pointed out, listen, this is the third
time I'm being asked about these questions as opposed to, Hey,
we've got the season right around the corner. You've got
two new teams in you know, Texas is you know,
second in the odds to win the SEC, which would
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be impressive coming from the big too like all that,
Like there's a lot to talk about, and yet what
anybody wants to discuss is, well, what about Florida State
and what about Clemson? And what about you know, next
year and the year after and the year after that,
And I just want like those were never conversations happen before.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I think the infrastructure has to improve for the student athlete. Now,
that's to me. I would say that's the biggest concern.
If you ask me, what do you mean by infrastructure?
Infrastructure in terms of how you know, is our union
is there? Like what are the rules? You know, in
terms of what's governing, what what's taking place?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Can I be honest about it though, in the sense
that if here's the problem, look at football at the
pro level in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
The NFLPA gets clobbered by the NFL owners. I mean
that's thirty two teams, all.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Right, versus about every year about two thousand players able
to play in the league. And it's hard enough to
get that amount of players to come together to be
able to focus on one or two big issues like
the owners do, which is one of I guess my
concerns why the owners always end up winning out in
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the negotiations, because the NFLPA usually has four or five
six things they're trying to improve on in crams as
opposed to one or two big things the owners want
that changed the direction of the course of the league,
that you know, help.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
It continue to keep growing the way it has, which is.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Way more effective. So let's then take that and apply
it to the college level. So all these players unionize
and you can do the math. I don't care to
at the moment, but let's say there's sixty teams, okay,
that end up leading to a or even you know,
we can go one hundred and thirty if you want power,
you know, the power autonomous four the group of five teams,
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now you know six, however.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
You want to look at it or conference excuse me, but.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Even if you did it for that, that's a huge,
huge group of players who then have to unite and
come together to be able to find a few things
to make any progress. And I know there's a lot
more schools too than professional teams, but still fractionally speaking,
like like the number is much less, and so I
think again within that school but then the problem is
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gonna be you're gonna have this unlevel playing field. That's
the issue we have right now, where you have state
to state differences in nil laws. You have even you know,
you know, school to school. That's what it's always and
how they interpret it. It's not I mean, there's been
differences in college football forever. But once you start creating
a collective bargaining agreement, then everyone kind of has to
operate under the same rules. And if there ends up
being federal law, then those things can kind of be
(40:23):
applied at some point, right So.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
But there's still going to be different laws that govern
each one of these states though.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
I mean, no federal law would overcome all of that,
and that's what would create a level playing field.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Okay, I just to me, I don't think that you
try to bring every single school together.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think it's more so by school. That's that's what
I would think.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I think it would be more effective if those if
those structures were put in place by school to make
sure that the kids are one educated and that's a
that's a priority, not that it's extracurricular. You know, it's
almost like you have to go into a direction of
this is their job, this is their major, this is
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and I think it's a whole nother conversation, But I
think it now shines a light nil being able to
pay these players grow. Like as we mentioned commercializing what
college football looks like, you have now shined light on
the fact that how important it is, how much money
is being generated. There's no reason to sit there and
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act as though, Okay, you can play football as an
extracurricular activity for the school and get a scholarship for it,
but you have to go major in something else. I
think I think that conversation has to start ensuing as well,
Why isn't that Why isn't football a major? Why isn't
a major where you take electives and different things like
that that's connected to you being a part of football.
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Get your education, get your get your degree, whatever it
may be. That that how it can kind of shakes out.
But at some point you can't keep saying that this
is not a full time gig that these guys have,
because now there's appearances involved, there's there's other things, the
other other commitments that these players are starting to have.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Now that the landscape has changed to what it is now.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
How many millionaires are in college football?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
How many?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
What millionaires?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Not not that many?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
I mean it's I mean again, you got to take
out taxes and everything else too, right, So a kid
makes a millionaire, is not a millionaire?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, this because urines it.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
So I just wonder, you know, is this I don't know,
it's the whole The thing is complex, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
It is complex. And then like there's no clear solution
all of it. How Title nine impacts all this is
yet to be seen. You know that.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
The I believe there's been a response to the House
in CA settlement as far as how they're trying to
let that sort itself out because knowing what's more litigation.
I mean, that's the hard part is like all this
is is being shaped kind of in the courts, and
it gets tough to do every single year where you're
winning on the court to decide how this is going
to look and you know how it's going to work
moving forward. So until again we get through probably this
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election this fall, I think then you'll see Congress probably
focus more on on it, even though they've they've already
kind of played a small role now and how things
are being shaped out with the House and NCA settlement.
Either way, I mean, the bottom line is we're we're
moving towards a better part of college football, where I
think it nationalizes the sport to Levar's point, and these
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players are, in essence, you know, professional players now that
are majoring in football. You know, I personally hate hearing
that though, because like, no one's hiring you because oh
you're majored in football. Great, Like, there's elements of that
being the reality of it where people are going to
allow you to interview, people are going to want to
talk to you, people want to.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
See you because you did play football.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
But for all the guys who play football and do
not have an NFL career, that doesn't usually work as
quite as well, Like you need to provide them at
least a foundation and a baseline of an education that
can help them moving forward.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I don't disagree with it. But at the same time,
there are other elements. There's there's front office elements, There's
there are jobs out.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But that's like then you've got to learn, you know, finance,
you got to learn you know, And I think those things.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Should be connected to the educational process. You should have
to learn all that. I just think you call it
averre matrig in football. It's just like, Okay, you know, like,
I don't think. I just I don't think it's dummy
down though. I think that what you're saying is is correct,
Like you shouldn't. I mean, it could be grounds keeping,
that's it could be. It could be you know, being
a GM and and for what it's worth, a lot
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a lot of guys are ill prepared to take those
types of jobs, but because they never studied it.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
But that's because they didn't go to management, right like
that that's a management major, So that's what that is.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
But why candn't that management aspect of it be incorporated
in a football football major?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
That's what I'm saying. So don't let's not look at it.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I think you already get the major. Like, that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
It's like if you I think, if you want to
get into it, you you know, major in business management,
and then then that's how you segue into it.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Yeah, I don't think it has to be labeled that way.
I think that it should be labeled a football major.
That would be pretty sweet. What's your major?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Football?
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Football?
Speaker 2 (45:15):
What's to you? A football?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
What was the What it is was that in the
program we carried the football with him.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
The whole time football, I told you how to spell that.
See that you a beat.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
It's everyone wats the class? They have a textbook, they said,
a football now
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
So we had the home run Derby last night. How
was that?
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (00:20):
I thought it was exciting. Did you guys not like it?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No?
Speaker 5 (00:22):
I mean, I mean I did not like it. I
just didn't watch it gradually. Uh, I mean what did
I not like it? I had to watch it to
like it.
Speaker 6 (00:34):
I wanted to highlight the formats changed though it was
kind of interesting. It was a you had forty pitches,
which here's what I don't like about it. There's three
minutes or forty pitches, which ever comes first. So it
was kind of fast pace, which means part of the
onus too, by the way, is on the pitcher. And
so Bobby widd Junior, who I think he had someone
(00:57):
Russell was pitching to him.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
He was a lefty. Even though he made it to
the finals.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
I thought wher was throwing to him did an awful job.
Like it was pretty apparent in the first round where
he kind of barely made it through the next round
that he.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Wasn't getting a lot of help.
Speaker 6 (01:12):
Like you're out there at a home run derby competition,
and you can't somehow get the pitch you want to
try to knock one out of the park.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's a problem.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
Yeah, it feels like there's more pressure on the pitcher
than there is the actual batter because you just for
sure if you just groove it in there, those guys
don't even look like there's any effort to their swing.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It just turn and burn.
Speaker 6 (01:30):
And they get they get into a rhythm and it's over.
Like it's just every swing it's out, it's gone, see
you next one.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Like it's incredible to watch.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
But that being said, like they had the whole bonus
round where it went back to the old traditional way
where you have three outs, but if you hit one
a certain distance you get an additional opportunity. Then that's
what it came down to. Bobby Witch Junior actually ended
up hitting one late with two outs to get an
additional an additional out, two outs essentially to hit one
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home run to tie to to win it, and with
his last out he smacked one. I mean it was
deep towards center but hit off the wall, so pretty
dramatic finish.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah, it was fun. Nice a dollar Scarcia.
Speaker 7 (02:17):
I'd love to know what that guy's workout is because
he is joked up. Yeah, all those guys are seemed
like they spent a lot of time. Yeah, real strong form, Yeah, definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Like Maguire back in the day, though, I did like.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Very few people have their you know, strong form wrapped
around the wood like you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I did.
Speaker 7 (02:42):
Like Ken Griffy Junior was up there and he was
just like they were talking to him like, hey, you know,
so what was your strategy this and that? You know,
At this point he goes, well, no, I mean we
got ten swings and that was it. He's like, this
was not This was completely different from when we played
it and when we did it, and so it's technically true,
Well there are ten outs, Like yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Ten ounce is a lot easier if you can at least, like,
you know, be able to take your pitch and take
your time.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
With all of them.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
No break, They just had to go up there and
start hacking.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
Yeah, but again, the old way is better in my opinion,
because look, these guys were gassed. So after a minute
and a half, they try to take a break somewhere
after twenty pitches or a minute and a half, because
I mean, you're up there just swinging, and you gonna
kind of swing at everything. I think it's now to
rely on the pitcher to groove them like some strikes or.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Groove them balls. And I don't like that portion of it.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
They got to find a fine line or just go
with the clock if that's the case. But don't do
a number of pitches because some guys actually had like
maybe ten seconds fifteen seconds, which gives them two or
three more throws that they wouldn't have had otherwise with
the forty.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
So it almost need to just go to the clock
and keep it there.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, Now let's get to the real conversation. That wasn't
the real one.
Speaker 6 (04:01):
No, no, no, this is a tra.
Speaker 7 (04:06):
Ingrid and dress. Yeah, not familiar. Four time.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Winner nominee.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Okay, gotcha, gotcha? It makes sense, doesn't Yeah, four time
Grammy nominee. I can't imagine if she would have lost
out on all those four But she was singing the
national anthem.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Oh yeah, and I heard about that.
Speaker 7 (04:30):
Uh yeah, yeah, I know about this lee which which
do you prefer?
Speaker 3 (04:35):
Here?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Card? Any car? Do you want? All right?
Speaker 7 (04:39):
So let's hear a little bit of the national anthem
from Ingrid and dress.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Uh oh, that ain't nothing but that new auto tune.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
So bro, that's that was awful.
Speaker 7 (05:28):
Yeah, that sound it wasn't too bad at all. That
sounds like something bad as that sounds like somebody put
their dog in the electric chairs. When it sounded like
that was.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
It was horrendous that I listened to it live.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
I honestly thought they gave an opportunity to, you know,
someone who's like, never done it before.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's like a make a wish or some situation going on.
It was bad.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
I thought the same thing, like I had my head
down and then I looked up and I was like,
is this real? Like I thought there was something wrong
with my TV speakers, And then I just kept watching
and the look on everybody's face was like, what what
is happening here? And even Karl Ravitch couldn't. I think
he made a comment afterwards because nobody, nobody could figure it.
(06:16):
Like I thought it was a joke. I thought, Okay,
well is this I thought, also, is this somebody that's
from another country that's doing this? And then I realized,
well that would be dumb. Why would they bring somebody
from another country into sing our national anthem, like I
sort of got all these thoughts are going through my
head and then I just realized, Oh no, it just sucked.
That's all it was, Eddie Garcia, you were outraged by this.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
I just want to share an honest to God's story.
It was.
Speaker 8 (06:43):
It was playing upstairs. I was downstairs. I thought something
was happening with my dog. Yes, I thought my dog
was like distress, yelping or something.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
What it was, I'm not kidding.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I swear to you. I swear that's what I thought.
All right, who did it? Better? Let me let me
hear you, right.
Speaker 7 (07:09):
Kenny.
Speaker 9 (07:14):
By, Yeah, listen, I would say for that.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Better generated original one lizard, the first one.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Yeah, that's enough.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I don't want to keep living this.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
You should let me tell you something like singing our
national anthem, there should be like you should get fined
if you it up, that's correct.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
If you usould be like tryouts like major League Baseball.
If you ever listen to.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Her, if you decide that you're going to sing our
national anthem and you're going to sing it this way,
you should get fined. They should have came, They should
have escorted her off. Don't even let her finish, don't
even don't even don't even let her finish, have a
(08:29):
recording ready to go, played the recording, escort her off
and give her a fine.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Security should have tackenang that they.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Should just tackled and taken her down, all right, Someone said,
should have said.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
We were not gonna let this happen national anthem.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Like this should or conspiracy theory side of me is
that Major League Baseball hired someone that was going to
be viral and so awful that was only up from there.
Speaker 7 (08:57):
Dang okay, he said, I'm just well.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Bursting in air.
Speaker 7 (09:06):
So so what if if Ingrid wins and is onto
the final, who will she be competing against?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
None other than the goat?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Oh? Better than her? Still better?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Can you see? Oh the land?
Speaker 7 (09:46):
Yeah, but you know what, at least there was acknowledgment
in the moment. This is a crap bag you guys
are getting right now, you know what?
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know what?
Speaker 7 (09:54):
So at least, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna make up
for it this time. If he acknowledge it in real time.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
The vocal range like, don't go up there, Carl, don't
don't go up all the way there.
Speaker 7 (10:08):
Carl's was bad, but like over time you're like, you know, hey, no,
there's something.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Can I put it this way, like when you hear
Carl Lewis sing, I go, oh, he's got he's got
a voice, like he can sing. He might have missed
the high page height. I mean, that's that's tough for
a lot. Yeah, let's go back to Ingrid Andres.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Let's here.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Right there.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
You already lost me. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
I don't want to go all in. I don't uses.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Of a rich girl who may have been told by
her parents she was good at something when it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
For a long time.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
When you get that auto time, it's homeschooled and they thought,
oh this is a great idea.
Speaker 6 (11:08):
It's good for platform and or following, and then this
is what it turns out to be.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Like that.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
This is like someone being coddled to a certain age
and not being told you're not very good. But they're
probably there's probably some someone behind her so wealthy they
keep throwing money at it to get her to be
able to be on a stage like this.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I think she's going to go viral and become famous.
If Shorty Girl could become famous with Hakua, well, you can.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Back up that you could jack up this song and
become if you.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Want to be real through if you want to be real?
Speaker 6 (11:45):
Bro, is that famous just because you go like, being
viral and being famous, to me are not the same.
Like you're going to viral for something that like, all right,
you made some comment about you know where we can't
even get into what was, and so you go viral that.
That doesn't make you famous. There's no talent, there's no skill,
there's there's nothing to that.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Well people said that about the car.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
And and now they're really famous for real.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Well, there's there's a talent. It's something there is.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Apparently she's got the same time.
Speaker 7 (12:21):
It's called open mic.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Damn.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
But I just I look at it and I go
and I see, I see the reaction, and I keep
waiting for her to release a statement or something like that,
and I think she's.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Gonna release one.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
I hope to How about this, how about this, Let's
do this, Let's give her the benefit of the doubt.
All right, I've been tough on her, ingrid Andre's on
dress dress. Let's listen to one of her songs, maybe
a single, she asked, tell me, okay, let's do that
and let's see if that's made.
Speaker 5 (12:54):
Let's see what she got. Okay, she's one of them
type singers. Okay, what type singers that we to.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
Get hagh smoke weed tour.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, you get half drink, you get drunk.
Speaker 6 (13:08):
This this should be played in gemo. I mean that
is that still open? Like they punish prisoners this way?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Dang, just sick.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
She actually doesn't sound bad here.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Now that's because you're it's the comp to what we
just heard, so anything would sound better. Carl Lewis sounded better.
It's not a bad it's not that bad. She's just
I mean, she just should in the trap to sing
that other song. That song sucked and so did her rendition.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
I didn't say that it was a great song.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
I just she didn't sound as bad as she did
sing in the National Anthem.
Speaker 7 (13:45):
And by the way, when they give out awards for
the Grammys, is it like somebody finishes last and then
somebody finishes in fourth place and like do.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
They like that? Yeah? I just want to know, like
how far down.
Speaker 7 (13:57):
And we haven't been up for an award at all.
We'll think about it and we can't get any help.
I mean, and We've asked Lee to, like, you know,
put our names in that, and.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That's what they say.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
It's up's up to Lee.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
What is going on here? Oh you're watching? Uh this
is next.
Speaker 7 (14:15):
To Ken No, that's uh what is why Blake?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
What is he doing?
Speaker 7 (14:20):
Du road out the Double Douce? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Wow, they're at the Double Douce right now. Good Google, Google.
I mean he's adjusting the temperatures in the room.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Guys, just uh, all all about it? Well listen. Uh, hey,
welcome to All Star Game festivities in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
And glad they gave us a lead off story.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Otherwise I mean, I just you know, I don't know.
I thought this was entertaining. Just any any response, do
it in print. We've heard what you had to say,
and we don't need to hear that again. Just tweet it,
write it, put it out there, and then we'll get
we'll get the very latest on her response to all this.
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Speaker 2 (16:03):
Hey man, I would sue if I was TD.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
Okay, good, I'm okay.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
I wanted to get missed at some point.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Okay, unbelievable. It's just too much. Like we joke about
this all the time. I'm suing two pros and a
couple of radio jonas.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
Get those radio formatics.
Speaker 7 (16:23):
I'm twenty minutes from now, we are going to have
another piping hot edition of Would You Rather Hear? On FSR.
Terrell Davis was arrested on a flight from Denver to
Orange County, which is a short flight his tell me
if I'm missing something here. Apparently the guy that was
walking by during drink service, he was with his family,
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his wife and his kids.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
He's sitting with his son. His son wanted a cup
of ice.
Speaker 8 (16:51):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Flight attendant ignored the request.
Speaker 7 (16:55):
Yes, so he tapped him on the back of the arm.
The guy said, don't hit me. He did the flight
attendant and then went up towards the front. Terrell Davis
and the people around Terrell Davis, according to him, were
surprised at his reaction.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
And then when they landed, everybody stay seated, and then
they coughed him.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And the FBI got involved, and they took him off
and questioned him and then later found that he was
in No.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
He wasn't in the wrong. Oh that's fine. Then he
just got humiliated in front of eye. Correct, you know,
no harm, no foul. We're just going to arrest your ass. Listen, man,
haul you off. Why don't fly now?
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You know what airline?
Speaker 7 (17:42):
Was it?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
By the way? United? Yeah? There you go.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
What what's wrong?
Speaker 6 (17:47):
It's just interesting the discrepancy between like, I mean, they've
beaten people off of a plane before, but if you
touch them or tap them now all of a sudden,
it's assault.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
And you're hitting them. I mean, it's just.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
I don't know, man, But there I do feel like
the flight attendants for whatever reason, maybe this was through
COVID because they had to ask so many people to
wear their masks.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
Pay back up a power trip and here and here's
the thing is I try to give them always the
benefit of the doubt because their first job is the
safety the well being of the passengers. It's not to
be a waiter or waitress. That is not their job.
Like people tend to get on a plane and think
like they're gonna wait on you. That's not what their
job is. They're there to provide medical assistance. They're there
(18:33):
to provide, you know, help in case of an emergency.
That that's why they're there. It's not to get you
a drink or your food or a snack or whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
So I get it.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
But I travel a lot, man, and I would say
in general, and it's not any interactions I have with
flight attendants because I just keep my mouth shut and
just kind of put my headphones on, head down, watch
some film, want read a book.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Or something, and how they got obj.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
But we trust me.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
When I'm sitting exit row or something else, I usually respond,
but there is like a power trip going on. It's
crazy to me. I've seen it so many times, and
even like I guess I'll tell this story, like even
you know, for example, like you know, I have status
on a lot of airlines, so I'll get upgrades and whatnot.
And if you are like sitting in first class, like
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one of the connections I had was like a little
bit late getting to it, and you should see how
like I was like like trying to find a spot
for my bag, and the treatment from the staff before
they knew where my seat was was entirely different. Then
when I put my bag down on my seat and
went to sit down, it was like, oh, oh, I'm sorry,
Like we didn't know you were sitting there.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I'm like, why should it be any different?
Speaker 6 (19:44):
Like why would you treat me any different than any
other person on this plane just because where I'm sitting Now, Like,
there's so many things the airline industry needs to fix,
but flight attendant's attitude is definitely.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
One of them.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
Now, how many autographs have you given to a flight attendant?
Like would you say, I don't know why would that
be your question. I just want to know, because I mean,
we're talking about one status. We're talking about status. Let's
really talk about status. I don't feel like maybe you
would get as much heat as anybody else because they realize,
wait a second, that's the star of Big New Kickoff.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
What is wrong?
Speaker 2 (20:17):
We're not going to mess around here.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
This is the direction you wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I was a Big New Kickoffs.
Speaker 7 (20:23):
I'm like, you know, it's you know, you and Rob
Stone battling it out head to head to try and
see who gets a better status. I don't I literally
don't know the difference between United Delta American, Like, it's
never EASi.
Speaker 6 (20:37):
You don't travel, Like these are subjects you can't even
talk about because you literally don't travel.
Speaker 7 (20:42):
Okay, so then what is it? Just the service?
Speaker 9 (20:45):
Is it?
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Everybody?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
The good ones are the good ones, the bad ones
are the bad ones. That's just what it comes down to.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Yeah, Like Delta, you get Wi Fi.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You can get Wi Fi for free, right, you don't
have to pay for seventeen bucks or whatever. I mean
they were literally, I mean price gouge the crap out
of you for Wi Fi a plane. You know, other airlines,
disc and airlines it's not as bad, but there's just
I mean that the seats, you know that, the plane cleanliness,
everything else, how new it is?
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Yeah, some different standards they put you on the nineteen
seventies play you said there, like I tell you how
much to be sitting there on.
Speaker 6 (21:21):
It like soul playing like cigarette cigarette smoke ash trays
right there and the gat dang on, what are we
doing here talking about no smoking?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Why you got astraight here? That is interesting? Like I
didn't even think about that. There is the light up
there that says no smoking all over the place. What
are you doing when they're good? They're good like by airline,
Like I you know, I've had.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
My issues with with across the board. But it's it's again,
it's what you said. It's the customer service of its situation.
So Delta is better than United is I'm not getting
Delta is the best to message?
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Okay, So I don't.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
I actually would say like it's Delta then kind of
a gap and then like an American then probably United louds.
Speaker 7 (22:10):
Let's say there's a round trip flight for five hundred dollars,
just throw a number out there on Delta, but you
can get the same flight from United for two point
fifty is it worth? So it's not even worth the
half off to sit with no idea?
Speaker 6 (22:26):
Well, because here's the I mean, we're literally having a
conversation that's so meaningless to sports talk the problem. Here's
what because it doesn't matter. But here's what I would
advise people on. You want status with an airline, so
you want to fly the same airline as much as possible,
so you get points, you get status, you get miles
and all that stuff. That's what you want because that'll
help you get to like upgrades faster and status on
(22:47):
airline faster where you get perks out of it, like
the Delta lounges if you're stuck on a you know,
long delay.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Those things are awesome, good food, drinks, all that stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
So I would still say, like, whatever you fly, just
fly because you'll get at least the opportunity to go
the lounge and access to the services.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
So United is the Carolina Panthers of the.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Well. I don't know if you know that far discount
airlines you put below that, I'm sorry this happened to you.
That's what we need to get back to yeah, I'm
sorry this happened. I hope he.
Speaker 6 (23:25):
Wins, man, I hope he Susan wins, because could you
imagine being a Hall of Famer a dude who like
literally taps someone on the shoulder and then they're trying
to arrest you in front of everyone.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Yeah, that's that's that's out of control, man.
Speaker 5 (23:38):
And if you know t D he's one of the
most soft spoken, most most kind dudes.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Like he's not.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
It's not I could see if it was one of
those like he grabbed the arm, and he's like kind
of known for being type of an aggressive type dude
or whatever it may be. But come on, man, Like,
it's just I don't know, like the liberties that some
of these these people take in those positions, it's really
it's it's just it's unfortunate that they think they can
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conduct themselves that way.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Like I'm telling you, man, it's it's attitude. It's weird
power trip about it.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
Even the TSA people, it's like it's like you, it's
like you can be a kind person. Like I have
met so many kind people being on planes going through security,
and I have met some real d.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Bags, like like, why are you getting so aggressive, sir, Like,
what what do you mean? Why am I being aggressive?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, why are you? Why are you talking like? You
don't have to talk to me that way? What are
you talking about? Man Tsa? I asked you, do I
need to take my belt off? Like?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Why am I being so aggressive? Do I need to
take my belt off?
Speaker 5 (24:50):
Or not?
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Sometimes you say yes, sometimes you say no?
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Which one is it? I see new I see new devices.
You tell me yesterday I need to keep my shoes on.
Now today you're telling me I need to take them off.
I just need to know what you want me to do, sir,
like go it ony?
Speaker 9 (25:15):
Oh no, man A Lee.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Oh though, would you fly on a subpar plane if
it meant saving like fifty percent off what a regular
price would be?
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (25:28):
That's more boost though for me? That's why.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
Yeah, you just kind of take yourself before you get on.
That's all?
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Okay?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
How about this though, same scenario, five hundred dollars flight
on Delta unlimited drinks though for that ticket two fifty
on United not unlimited, you get a paper drink.
Speaker 5 (25:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
It's a good question, and it comes down to the trip,
and it comes down to how far I'm going, So
you probably go with the with the drinks, especially the
longer than.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I'm gonna say it's a minimum three hour flight.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Oh yeah, then we're going the We're going delta therest
of ball. That's a lie. I've flown with enough times
to know there's not a shot in hell he's not
walking onto that plane without a ziplock full of mini bottles.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
That's true.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
So he would save the money and he'd be drinking
Evan Williams from start to finish on that flight.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's a good call, Jonas. I think you're right. I'm
gonna go United.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Is that allowed through TSA though, through TSA any flight,
as long as it's in a ziplo liquid, any liquid,
it's as long as the bottle's lower than what the
three and a half hours.
Speaker 9 (26:33):
I've got a problem with.
Speaker 6 (26:33):
That because you could get some people who are underage
sneaking it through and it's not like TSA is checking you.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
It's good.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I guess that's more on the onus of whoever sold
it to you. But I'm just saying, like I would
not think you'd be allowed to take alcohol onto a plane,
regardless of the size.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
I mean you are not allowed to open said ziplock
bag and drink it on the plane.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But you know, I don't know, Lee, are you saying
you do this?
Speaker 7 (26:59):
Yeah, And that's why he is savage time, by the way,
and that is why Terrell Davis was assaulted on a
fause people sneaking a bottle of seagrums onto a flight
(27:20):
so they have to.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Pay in their first class.
Speaker 5 (27:26):
I mean, there's no possible way that there was a
reason for for him to be smuggling, by the way,
smuggling liquors.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
You should have seen how many many bottles he brought
to Ireland. It was one of those freezers h blocked backs.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He had.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
How many did you have in there?
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Like ten?
Speaker 5 (27:43):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I mean we were there, we were there for
a few days, so I had to bring variety.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
He's got he's got cargoes, shorts so he can put
him in each of his pockets when he goes to
sit back down.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It's real.
Speaker 6 (27:56):
For those listening who are wondering, why the hell we're
talking about this right now, this is Jonas.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
This is all let us down.
Speaker 7 (28:03):
This gutt hold on a second, LeVar brought up Terrell Davis.
This was.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
That was sports talk.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
That was hour one.
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Yes, it's sports talk And the only reason we were
on a flight.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
You went to Lee and Lee's drinking.
Speaker 12 (28:19):
Problems and because he's American and I feel like, you
know the t s A and goes right in with it,
like yeah, Janus, like let's talk about Lee, be right
there with it.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Some people call it a problem. I called a solution.
There you go, there you go, there you go, there
you go. Option. How about option?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Joe just loves hearing Lee's stories about boost.
Speaker 7 (28:43):
It's just because I want to live vicariously through him,
because it is the social life I have.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
Now, Lee's tray table looks like it's.
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Trash day when people are dragging the trash cans outside
of the curb and they've just got like a bunch
of just trash backs field of wrap that overflow.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
That's essentially at least.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
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Speaker 7 (29:14):
So SEC Media Days is going down. Greg Sankei is
the Commissioner of the SEC and according to him, expansion
at this point in time with the additions of Texas
and Oklahoma, they're not looking past it. Let's take a listen.
Speaker 13 (29:35):
Time engaged in that recruiting activity because we're focused on
our sixteen and I want to be respectful of the
difficulty that's currently faced with that issue, that set of
issues within the ACC and my colleague Jim Phillips. We're
focused on our sixteen period. You've seen how we've made
decisions over the last decade plus for contiguous states to join.
(29:58):
I think that's incredibly wise. It provides remarkable strength. The
last three questions are part of the reality, which is
I've responded now three times where our focus lies. Our
focus is on our sixteen members. I have a responsibility
to pay attention and I'm certainly not going to fuel
speculation on what happens next.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
So they are happy and content. Sixteen is there today,
sixteen is there tomorrow. According to Greg SANKEI are you
buying the idea that this is going to be what
it is with the SEC at least for the short
time with the remainder of the season coming up in
the conference moving forward?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I mean I do, at least in the short term.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Long term, I'm not sure how you go about defining that,
but I keep trying to explain to people it's not
about so much even the conferences in their decision, It's
more about the TV networks behind it, because that's who's
pushing for realignments so they can control.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And have media rights to it.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
So, if you are ESPN or Disney in this case,
and you have the exclusive rights to the SEC, why
would you want to pay more for Florida State or
Clemson to add to the SEC when you already own
the ACC you have the rights to them as well.
So what would be the point of having those two
(31:19):
teams since they want to leave the ACC just to
be able to have those brands. I mean, if it
made financial sense, they would have already moved them by
now that's the truth. I mean there's probably a lot
of Florida State fans and Clemson fans who don't want
to hear that, or even just in general college football fans,
But Texas and Oklahoma were worth it those brands, the
(31:43):
people who watched, the way they're able to attract viewership
that leads to advertiser dollars, it was worth it to
be able to get those two in the SEC. So
realignment is as dependent up on the TV network's decision
behind the scenes to want them to go to conferences
(32:04):
as much as anything else. And so even if Florida
State and Clemson want to leave, they're gonna look for
greener pastures because clearly, in this specific case, even though
we're talking the SEC, we're really talking about those two schools.
Speaker 3 (32:18):
And you know, because there are two of the.
Speaker 6 (32:20):
Bigger brands that have been making waves to wanting to
get out of their agreement with the ACEC.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
So there's three options. They'll probably either move to the
Big Twelve, which seems most likely.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Brett Yormark to me is one of the best commissioners
in college sports. He's progressive, he's thoughtful, he's ready to
kind of pounce an act, and I think he'd look
at the Big twelve teams that are in there and
I think he said he thinks if he can enhance
it any way, he will. So if you're looking for
a conference to go to that is trying to keep
(32:55):
up with the Big ten in the SEC and be
proactive about it and its approach, selling the naming rights
to the conference, private equity infusion, all these things. The
Big Twelve was the conference for that, so it would
make some sense there maybe the Big Ten. If you
look at Fox, CBSNBC, I'm sure they'd love to have
brands like Florida State Clemson. It increases their geographic footprint
(33:18):
as far as where the schools are. That's helpful to
a small degree, but it enhances the games. The problem
is you have to have the conference looking at and say, okay,
we're divving up the pie. Like, does a team like
Rutgers really want Florida State and Clemson coming into the
Big Ten? Does Ohio State care about what Rutgers wants?
Or Michigan Do they care about what Rutgers wants if
(33:39):
they want Florida State and Clemson in? Does Michigan Ohio
State want Clemson in Florida State in? Do they want
a lesser piece of what they're getting from the TV contract?
So those are questions you have to answer. The other option,
which I kind of go back to the beginning of
all this realignment. Had we just taken football, all football teams,
all football programs instead, let's just go into pay you
(34:01):
could schedule your schedules however you want and create it,
but work out your own broadcasting rights deal for football.
That would have made every life so much easier for
college sports because every other conference could still exist for.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Everything other than football.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
And then that's the other option, is Florida State Clemson
just leave the ACC they go independent. It's probably unlikely,
but that is one of the other options that they
could go that route in essence, but they need a
financial windfall to be able to leave the ACC if
they're going to get hit with the granted rights, which
obviously penalizes them for doing so. But if they can
(34:39):
find another way to leave the conference without hitting them
in their wallet, that would be the most likely scenario.
Speaker 5 (34:47):
I would just say, simply put, from my perspective, my
angle on it is, there's no reason to disclose any
plans or any ideas what you're entertaining, what you're negotiating,
just on the simple fact that you you never want
to give anybody any unnecessary ammunition or leverage against what
(35:08):
it is that you're doing. So I think that that's
just it's just a very very I'd say, you know,
rule rule one of the early rules and how you
do business, you don't let people know what your next
move is unless you're strategically letting them know what you're
going to do. So yeah, so we're comfortable with what
(35:29):
we have until we're not. I mean, it's no different
than how we talk about the eighteenth game that's coming
for the NFL or anything else that's out there. You know,
even before the realignments took place this past year, you know,
when when everything happened with the pack, it's there's no
there's no benefit to allowing people to know unless you
(35:53):
see the strategic benefit in releasing that information, to allowing
people to know what, Okay, we're going after Florida State, Like, Okay,
that could give Florida State leverage because now you've put
it out there, so you.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Got to get it done. You got to try to
get it done. That's leverage.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
If it's television, whatever it is, their angle is they
now see it coming, they can prepare for it, they
can get into the room, they can talk about it,
plan for it.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
What does that look like? You're giving people the opportunity
to maybe.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
Catch up or get a hit, or be prepared in
a way where it's not advantageous for you, and you're
you're what you're doing for your business with the conference
that you're you're running, so why would you There's no
reason to sit there and put it out there, like,
just keep it, keep it to yourself until you know
what it is that you're going to do do.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
College Does college football still feel like college football to
you guys? Or has it become I don't know if
corporate is the right term, and it's getting corporate. Well,
I don't even know that it's in a worse spot
than it was. It's just different and I just want it.
It's just very different. And I wonder if that different
is a good thing for the sport because like all
(37:08):
these conversations, you know, we were never having before.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
It was about you know, who do you like? What's
what's the season going to look like?
Speaker 7 (37:16):
And it's almost gotten to the point to where and
I think you know, he was frustrated, great Saykie was
frustrated and even pointed out, listen, this is the third
time I'm being asked about these questions as opposed to, Hey,
we've got the season right around the corner. You've got
two new teams in you know, Texas is you know,
second in the odds to win the SEC, which would
(37:37):
be impressive coming from the big too like all that,
Like there's a lot to talk about, and yet what
anybody wants to discuss is, well, what about Florida State
and what about Clemson? And what about you know, next
year and the year after and the year after that,
And I just want like those were never conversations happen before.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
I think the infrastructure has to improve for the student athlete. Now,
that's to me. I would say that's the biggest concern.
If you ask me, what do you mean by infrastructure?
Infrastructure in terms of how you know, is our union
is there? Like what are the rules? You know, in
terms of what's governing, what what's taking place?
Speaker 6 (38:16):
Can I be honest about it though, in the sense
that if here's the problem, look at football at the
pro level in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
The NFLPA gets clobbered by the NFL owners. I mean
that's thirty two teams, all.
Speaker 6 (38:32):
Right, versus about every year about two thousand players able
to play in the league. And it's hard enough to
get that amount of players to come together to be
able to focus on one or two big issues like
the owners do, which is one of I guess my
concerns why the owners always end up winning out in
(38:53):
the negotiations, because the NFLPA usually has four or five
six things they're trying to improve on in crams as
opposed to one or two big things the owners want
that changed the direction of the course of the league,
that you know, help.
Speaker 3 (39:07):
It continue to keep growing the way it has, which is.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Way more effective. So let's then take that and apply
it to the college level. So all these players unionize
and you can do the math. I don't care to
at the moment, but let's say there's sixty teams, okay,
that end up leading to a or even you know,
we can go one hundred and thirty if you want power,
you know, the power autonomous four the group of five teams,
(39:34):
now you know six, however.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
You want to look at it or conference excuse me, but.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
Even if you did it for that, that's a huge,
huge group of players who then have to unite and
come together to be able to find a few things
to make any progress. And I know there's a lot
more schools too than professional teams, but still fractionally speaking,
like like the number is much less, and so I
think again within that school but then the problem is
(40:01):
gonna be you're gonna have this unlevel playing field. That's
the issue we have right now, where you have state
to state differences in nil laws. You have even you know,
you know, school to school. That's what it's always and
how they interpret it. It's not I mean, there's been
differences in college football forever. But once you start creating
a collective bargaining agreement, then everyone kind of has to
operate under the same rules. And if there ends up
being federal law, then those things can kind of be
(40:23):
applied at some point, right So.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
But there's still going to be different laws that govern
each one of these states though.
Speaker 6 (40:30):
I mean, no federal law would overcome all of that,
and that's what would create a level playing field.
Speaker 5 (40:35):
Okay, I just to me, I don't think that you
try to bring every single school together.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think it's more so by school. That's that's what
I would think.
Speaker 5 (40:45):
I think it would be more effective if those if
those structures were put in place by school to make
sure that the kids are one educated and that's a
that's a priority, not that it's extracurricular. You know, it's
almost like you have to go into a direction of
this is their job, this is their major, this is
(41:09):
and I think it's a whole nother conversation, But I
think it now shines a light nil being able to
pay these players grow. Like as we mentioned commercializing what
college football looks like, you have now shined light on
the fact that how important it is, how much money
is being generated. There's no reason to sit there and
(41:31):
act as though, Okay, you can play football as an
extracurricular activity for the school and get a scholarship for it,
but you have to go major in something else. I
think I think that conversation has to start ensuing as well,
Why isn't that Why isn't football a major? Why isn't
a major where you take electives and different things like
that that's connected to you being a part of football.
(41:54):
Get your education, get your get your degree, whatever it
may be. That that how it can kind of shakes out.
But at some point you can't keep saying that this
is not a full time gig that these guys have,
because now there's appearances involved, there's there's other things, the
other other commitments that these players are starting to have.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
Now that the landscape has changed to what it is now.
Speaker 7 (42:18):
How many millionaires are in college football?
Speaker 3 (42:20):
How many?
Speaker 2 (42:20):
What millionaires?
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Not not that many?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
I mean it's I mean again, you got to take
out taxes and everything else too, right, So a kid
makes a millionaire, is not a millionaire?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Yeah, this because urines it.
Speaker 7 (42:30):
So I just wonder, you know, is this I don't know,
it's the whole The thing is complex, the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
It is complex. And then like there's no clear solution
all of it. How Title nine impacts all this is
yet to be seen. You know that.
Speaker 6 (42:46):
The I believe there's been a response to the House
in CA settlement as far as how they're trying to
let that sort itself out because knowing what's more litigation.
I mean, that's the hard part is like all this
is is being shaped kind of in the courts, and
it gets tough to do every single year where you're
winning on the court to decide how this is going
to look and you know how it's going to work
moving forward. So until again we get through probably this
(43:09):
election this fall, I think then you'll see Congress probably
focus more on on it, even though they've they've already
kind of played a small role now and how things
are being shaped out with the House and NCA settlement.
Either way, I mean, the bottom line is we're we're
moving towards a better part of college football, where I
think it nationalizes the sport to Levar's point, and these
(43:33):
players are, in essence, you know, professional players now that
are majoring in football. You know, I personally hate hearing
that though, because like, no one's hiring you because oh
you're majored in football. Great, Like, there's elements of that
being the reality of it where people are going to
allow you to interview, people are going to want to
talk to you, people want to.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
See you because you did play football.
Speaker 6 (43:54):
But for all the guys who play football and do
not have an NFL career, that doesn't usually work as
quite as well, Like you need to provide them at
least a foundation and a baseline of an education that
can help them moving forward.
Speaker 5 (44:06):
I don't disagree with it. But at the same time,
there are other elements. There's there's front office elements, There's
there are jobs out.
Speaker 3 (44:13):
But that's like then you've got to learn, you know, finance,
you got to learn you know, And I think those things.
Speaker 5 (44:18):
Should be connected to the educational process. You should have
to learn all that. I just think you call it
averre matrig in football. It's just like, Okay, you know, like,
I don't think. I just I don't think it's dummy
down though. I think that what you're saying is is correct,
Like you shouldn't. I mean, it could be grounds keeping,
that's it could be. It could be you know, being
a GM and and for what it's worth, a lot
(44:39):
a lot of guys are ill prepared to take those
types of jobs, but because they never studied it.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
But that's because they didn't go to management, right like
that that's a management major, So that's what that is.
Speaker 5 (44:50):
But why candn't that management aspect of it be incorporated
in a football football major?
Speaker 2 (44:56):
That's what I'm saying. So don't let's not look at it.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
I think you already get the major. Like, that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (45:01):
It's like if you I think, if you want to
get into it, you you know, major in business management,
and then then that's how you segue into it.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Yeah, I don't think it has to be labeled that way.
I think that it should be labeled a football major.
That would be pretty sweet. What's your major?
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Football?
Speaker 3 (45:14):
Football?
Speaker 2 (45:15):
What's to you? A football?
Speaker 3 (45:17):
What was the What it is was that in the
program we carried the football with him.
Speaker 2 (45:21):
The whole time football, I told you how to spell that.
See that you a beat.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
It's everyone wats the class? They have a textbook, they said,
a football now
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