July 16, 2024 • 37 mins
SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey maintains they’re sticking with 16-teams, but are we buying it? FSR MLB Insider Jon Morosi talks All-Star Break and Trade Deadline. Plus, “You In or Out?”
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tire buying should be. So SEC media days is going down.
Greg SANKEI is the commissioner of the SEC, and according
to him, expansion at this point in time, with the
additions of Texas and Oklahoma, they're not looking past it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Time engaged in that recruiting activity because we're focused on
our sixteen and I want to be respectful of the
difficulty that's currently faced with that issue, that set of
issues within the ACC and my colleague Jim Phillips, we're
focused on our sixteen period. You've seen how we've made
decisions over the last decade plus for contiguous states to join.
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I think that's incredibly wise. It provides remarkable strength. The
last three questions are part of the reality, which is
I've responded now three times where our folks lies. Our
focus is on our sixteen members. I have a responsibility
to pay attention and I'm certainly not going to fuel
speculation on what happens next.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So they are happy and content. Sixteen is there today,
sixteen is there tomorrow. According to Greg Sanke, are you
buying the idea that this is going to be what
it is with the SEC at least for the short
time with the remainder of the season coming up in
the conference moving forward.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, I do, at least in the short term.
Long term, I'm not sure how you go about defining that,
but I keep trying to explain to people it's not
about so much even the conferences in their decision, It's
more about the TV networks behind it, because that's who's
pushing for realignment so they can control and have media
rights to it. So if you are ESPN or Disney
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in this case, and you have the exclusive rights to
the SEC, why would you want to pay more for
Florida State or Clemson to add to the SEC when
you already own the ACC you have the rights to
them as well. So what would be the point of
having those two teams since they want to leave the
ACC just to be able to have those brands. I mean,
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if it made financial sense, they would have already moved
them by now that's the truth. I mean, there's probably
a lot of Florida State fans and Clemson fans who
don't want to hear that, or even just in general
college football fans, but Texas and Oklahoma were worth it.
Those brands, the people who watched the way they're able
to attract viewership that leads to advertiser dollars, it was
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worth it to be able to get those two in
the SEC. So realignment is as dependent upon the TV
network's decision behind the scenes to want them to go
to conferences as much as anything else. And so even
if Florida State and Clemson want to leave, they're going
to look for in our pastures because clearly, in this
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specific case, even though we're talking the SEC, we're really
talking about those two schools. And you know, because there
are two of the bigger brands that have been making
waves to wanting to get out of their agreement with
the ACC. So there's three options. They'll probably either move
to the Big twelve, which seems most likely. Brett Yormark
to me is one of the best commissioners in college sports.
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He's progressive, he's thoughtful, he's ready to kind of pounce
an act, and I think he'd he'd look at the
Big twelve teams that are in there, and I think
he said he thinks if he can enhance it any way,
he will. So if you're looking for a conference to
go to, that is trying to keep up with the
Big ten in the SEC and being proactive about it
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in its approach, selling the naming rights to the conference,
private equity, infusion, all these things. The Big Twelve was
the conference for that, so it would make some sense
there maybe the Big Ten. If you look at Fox, CBS, NBC,
I'm sure they'd love to have brands like Florida State Clemson.
It you know, increases their geographic footprint as far as
where the schools are. That that's helpful to a small degree,
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but it enhances the games. The problem is you have
to have the conference looking at and say, okay, we're
divving up the pie, Like, does a team like Rutgers
really want Florida State and Clemson coming into the Big Ten?
Does Ohio State care about what Rutgers wants? Or Michigan
Do they care about what Rutgers wants if they want
Florida State and Clemson in? But does does Michigan Ohio
State want Clemson in Florida State in? Do they want
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a lesser piece of what they're getting from the TV contract?
So those are questions you have to answer. The other option,
which I kind of go back to the beginning of
all this realignment. Had we just taken football, all football teams,
all football programs, and said, let's just go independent. You
could schedule your your, your, your, your, your schedules however
you want and create it, but work out your own
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broadcasting rights deal for football. That would have made every
life's so much easier for college sports because every other
conference could still exist for everything other than football. And
then that's the other option, is Florida State Clemson just
leave the ACC they go independent. It's probably unlikely, but
that is one of the other options that they could
go that route in essence, but they need a financial
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windfall to be able to leave the ACC if they're
going to get hit with the granted rights, which obviously
penalizes them for doing so. But if they could find
another way to leave the conference without hitting them in
their wallet, that would be the most likely scenario.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I would just say, simply put, from my perspective, my
angle on it is, there's no reason to disclose any
plans or any ideas what you're entertaining, what you're negotiating,
just on the simple fact that you never want to
give anybody any unnecessary ammunition or leverage against what it
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is that you're doing. So I think that that's just
it's just a very very I'd say, you know, rule
one of the early rules and how you do business,
you don't let people know what your next move is
unless you're strategically letting them know what you're going to do. Yeah,
so we're comfortable with what we have until we're not.
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I mean, it's no different than how we talk about
the eighteenth game that's coming for the NFL or anything
else that's out there. You know, even before the realignments
took place this past year, you know, when when everything
happened with the pack, it's there's no there's no benefit
to allowing people to know unless you see the strategic
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benefit in releasing that information, to allowing people to know what, Okay,
we're going after Florida State. Like, okay, that could give
Florida State leverage because now you've put it out there,
so you got to get it done. You got to
try to get it done. That's leverage. If it's television,
whatever it is, their angle is they now see it coming,
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they can prepare for it, they can get into the room,
they can talk about it, plan for it. What does
that look like? You're giving people the opportunity to maybe
catch up or get a hit, or be prepared in
a way where it's not advantageous for you, and you're
you're what you're doing for your business with the conference
that you're you're running, So why would you There's no
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reason to sit there and put it out there, like,
just keep it, keep it to yourself until you know
what it is that you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Does college does college football still feel like college football
to you guys, or has it become I don't know
if corporate is the right term, and I don't just
getting corporate. Well, I don't even know that it's in
a worse spot than it was. It's just different and
I just want it. It's just very different. And I
wonder if that different is a good thing for the
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sport because like all these conversations, you know, we were
never have before. It was about you know, who do
you like? What's what's the season going to look like?
And it's almost gotten to the point to where and
I think you know, he was frustrated, great Saykie was
frustrated and even pointed out Listen, this is the third
time I'm being asked about these questions as opposed to, Hey,
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we've got the season right around the corner, You've got
two new teams in you know, Texas is you know,
second in the odds to win the SEC, which would
be impressive coming from the big too. Like all that,
Like there's a lot to talk about. Andy, what anybody
wants to discuss is well, what about Florida State and
what about Clemson? And what about you know, next year
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and the year after and the year after that. And
I just want like those were never conversations happen before.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
I think the infrastructure has to improve for the student athlete. Now,
that's to me. I would say that's the biggest concern if.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You ask me, what do you mean by infrastructure?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Infrastructure in terms of how you know, is our union
is there?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Like are the rules you know? In terms of what's
governing what's taking place?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Can I be honest about it though, in the sense
that if here's the problem, look at football at the
pro level in the NFL. The NFLPA gets clobbered by
the NFL owners. I mean that's thirty two teams all right,
versus about every year about two thousand players able to
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play in the league. And it's hard enough to get
that amount of players to come together to be able
to focus on one or two big issues like the
owners do, which is one of I guess my concerns
why the owners always end up winning out in the negotiations,
because the NFLPA usually has four or five six things
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they're trying to improve on incrementally as opposed to one
or two big things. The owners want that change the
direction the course of the league, that you know, help
it continue to keep growing the way it has, which
is way more efective. So let's then take that and
apply it to the college level. So all these players
unionize and you can do the math. I don't care
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to at the moment, but let's say there's sixty teams, okay,
that end up leading to a or even you know,
we can go one hundred and thirty if you want power,
you know, the power autonomous four the group of five teams,
now you know six, however you want to look at
it or conference excuse me, but even if you did
it for that, that's a huge, huge group of players
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who then have to unite and come together to be
able to find a few things to make any progress.
And I know there's a lot more schools too than
professional teams, but still fractionally speaking, like like the numbers,
much less and so I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Think again within that school.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But then the problem is gonna be you're gonna have
this unlevel playing field. That's the issue we have right now,
where you have state to state differences in nil laws.
You have even you know, you know, school to school
and state how they interpret it. It's not I mean,
there's been differences in college football forever. But once you
start creating a collective bargaining agreement, then everyone kind of
has to operate under the same rules. And if there
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ends up being federal law, then those things can kind
of be applied at some point, right So.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
But there's still going to be different laws that govern
each one of these states though.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean, no federal law.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Would overcome all of that, and that's what would create
a level playing field.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Okay, I just to me, I don't think that you
try to bring every single school together. I think it's
more so by school, That's what I would think. I
think it would be more effective if those if those
structures were put in place by school to make sure
that the kids are one educated and that's that's a priority,
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not that it's extracurricular. You know, it's almost like you
have to go into a direction of this is their job,
this is their major, this is and I think it's
a whole nother converse station, but I think it now
shines a light nil being able.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
To pay these players grow.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Like as we mentioned commercializing what college football looks like,
you have now shined light on the fact that how
important it is, how much money is being generated. There's
no reason to sit there and act as though, Okay,
you can play football as an extracurricular activity for the
school and get a scholarship for but you have to
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go major in something else. I think I think that
conversation has to start ensuing as well, why isn't that
Why isn't football a major? Why isn't a major where
you take electives and different things like that that's connected
to you being a part of football. Get your education,
you get your degree, whatever it may be. That how
it kind of shakes out. But at some point you
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can't keep saying that this is not a full time
gig that these guys have, because now there's appearances involved,
there's there's other things that other other commitments that these
players are starting to have.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Now that the landscape has changed to what it is now,
how many millionaires are in college football. How many what millionaires?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Not not that many. I mean it's I mean again,
you got to take out taxes and everything else too, right,
So a kid makes a millionaire, is not a millionaire?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, this because urines it.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So I just wonder, you know, is this I don't know,
it's the whole The thing is complex, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It is complex. And then like there's no clear solution
all of it. How Title nine impacts all this is
yet to be seen. You know that the I believe
there's been a response to the House in CA settlement
as far as how they're trying to let that sort
itself out because knowing what's more litigation. I mean, that's
the hard part is like all this is is being
shaped kind of in the courts, and it gets tough
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to do every single year where you're wining on the
court to decide how this is going to look and
you know how it's going to work moving forward. So
until again we get through probably this election this fall,
I think then you'll see Congress probably focus more on it,
even though they've they've already kind of played a small
role now and how things are being shaped out with
the House and NCAA settlement either way, I mean, the
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bottom line is we're moving towards a better part of
college football, where I think it nationalizes the sport to
Levar's point, and these players are in essence, you know,
professional players now that are majoring in football.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I personally hate hearing that though, because like, no one's
hiring you because oh you're major in football. Great, Like
there's elements of that being the reality of it where
people are going to allow you to interview, people are
going to want to talk to you, people want to
see you because you did play football. But for all
the guys who played football and do not have an
NFL career, that doesn't usually work as quite as well,
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Like you need to provide them at least a foundation
and a baseline of an education that can help them
moving forward.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I don't disagree with it. But at the same time,
there are other elements. There's front office elements, there's there
are jobs.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But that's like then you got to learn you know, finance,
you got to learn you know.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
And I think those things should be connected to the
educational process.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You should have to learn all that.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I just think you call it a were major in
football it's just like, okay, you know, like.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
I don't think I just I don't think it's dummy
down though. I think that what you're saying is is correct,
Like you shouldn't. I mean, it could be grounds keeping,
that's it could be. It could be you know, being
a GM and and for what it's worth, a lot
a lot of guys are ill prepared to take those
types of jobs, but because they never studied it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But that's because they didn't go to management, right like
that that's a management major, so that's what that is.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
But why couldn't that management aspect of it be incorporated
in a football football major?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's what I'm saying. So don't let's not look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I think you already got the major. Like, that's what
I'm saying. It's like if you I think, if you
want to get into it, you you you know, major
in business management and then then that's how you segue
into it.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, I don't think it has to be labeled that way.
I think that it should be label to football major.
That would be pretty sweet. What's your major football?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Football?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
What's it to you at football? What was the what
it is?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Who was that in the program? We charted the football
with them the whole time tool football.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I taught you how to spell that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
See that? Yous a beat it?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, everyone walks the class that have a textbok, there's
a football there.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
There's there's definitely a lot to chew on when it
comes to uh, oh well.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This situation, that's you're just just so good?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
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Speaker 2 (18:55):
What's happening? How we feeling?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Jonas lavarn Brady, Good morning, my friends and All Star
Game Tuesday in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, same to you, and listen. We buried it earlier
in the show. You're gonna be much nicer about it.
But I got to ask you. You were there at
the home run derby in Texas last night. What was
the feedback from the crowd or the people that you
were near upon hearing the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Because on television it was brutal.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I did watch the anthem. Oh uh. I've come to
say this in life, my friends, that that if that
if I can't do it any better than the person
who's up there doing it. I try to not say
much of anything. And I'm not a very good singer.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, could you could, Jay, I hear your voice, buddy,
you'd be better, trust me.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
If you just talked through the song, you'd be better.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I did want. I watched it. I witnessed it with
everybody else. I saw, God bless. Alec Bohm did a
great job. I was just trying to trying to keep
that poker face going. He knew there were about a
million cameras there all over the place, and he knew
he couldn't laugh or couldn't smile, so he just tried
to just keep that neutral expression. And I'm a big
Alec Bohm fan, and he did a great job. Yeah,
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I think Alec Bohm. I guess what I'll say is
Alec Bohm was all of America.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, yeah, all right, that's a fair assessment, is this JP.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I wanted to ask you about the home run derby.
I talked about it earlier. I thought the forty pitches
and the clock, like one of them's got to go.
It felt like it was just so far removed from
the traditional home run derby. And I know you got
your old school element of it. With the three outs,
you can gain kind of another one for a longer
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home run. I'm just curious to get your overall thoughts
of it. Like I liked it, it was entertaining, but
I thought the pitches in the clock was too much.
It's almost like it put a lot more pressure on
the pitcher than it did actually the hitter to make
sure those forty pitches he's given him some good pitches.
Like I thought that was one of the biggest issues
with Bobby Wood Junior, is like it didn't seem like
a lot of the pitching was as good for him
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as it was the other hitters.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You're so right, Brady that you are. When you're in
that event, you are totally beholden on the quality of
your pitcher. I mean, and in this case, there were
certainly some some veteran pitchers who have done him before.
Dino Evil, who was throwing the VP two task Hernandez
at the Champion Dino is one of the best VP
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throwers among all major league coaches. Very well known reputation
for Dino. He's one of the great but I think
that you're right, Brady, that there's we've talked so much
about this, this format and what works best. I think
at the end of the day, I look at last
night and say, whatever the format was, it brought us
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to some pretty interesting and dramatic moments. Bobby Junior coming
within what was it two feet maybe three feet of
of tying it late in the final round, Alec Bohm
I thought he got off a couple of good swings
late that would have actually put him ahead of ta Oscar.
And then of course there's the swing off that was dramatic.
I think those are probably the two moments from last
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night that that you'll go back to and remember. The
Bobby Witten nearly beating Tasker and then the same obviously
happening for Alec Bohm versus Tascar. But I think you're
right that maybe there's the format of last night did
put a lot of pressure on on the VP thrower.
I think also the distance is such a big part
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of the conversation around home runs now in Major League Baseball.
Certainly stat Cast has brought in that conversation that it's
a huge part of baseball right now, just in terms
of the way in which we're consuming MLB stats, So
it doesn't surprise me that that would be part of
the dialogue and part of the actual event structure. But
certainly we have come a long way from the original
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black and white home run jerbys that we would watch
on that were like replayed on ESPN Classic. I believe
it was we were kids. The format is a little
bit different nowadays. And then I guess my my end
my end thought is we could still probably tweak the
format a little a little more brady to your point,
but I will I will appreciate those dramatic moments that
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last night's format.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Did give us.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
JP the the MLB Draft is taking place. There's twenty rounds.
That's that's a whole lot of rounds of drafting. What
what did you see and and let's just say the
top ten picks, What what was your takeaway from it?
It seems like it was pretty balanced from in between,
you know, pitchers to first basement to second basement to shortstops.
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It just seemed like a lot of balance. What what
was your takeaway from day one in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Picks, Well, I think LeVar is a couple of things.
Number one it's the continued emphasis on college players and
and with with the minor leagues being smaller, and you're right,
it's it's amazing that we're talking about a twenty round
draft and it used to be fifty LeVar, it was
fifty up until less than a decade ago. And I
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think that what's happened is there are there are there
are now fewer minor league players who are under contract
to major league teams because of the restructuring of MLB,
uh the way they brought all the minor league levels
under the MLB umbrella as opposed of what used to
be the separate minor league baseball edge to teach, there's
there's a different philosophy broadly speaking, in player development. And
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what's happened, LeVar, is that with with fewer rounds and
with fewer places on your on your roster, it's really
emphasized college players over high school and and what that
means is that basically, if you think about it, like philosophically,
MLB is saying, Okay, n Cuba, with all the change
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happening in n CAA sports sort of like part of
this a little bit, We're going to let you develop
some of our better players for three years, and then
we'll instead of drafting them and paying them bonuses at eighteen,
we'll take a few high school kids. But we're going
to really prioritize at the top of the draft taking
college kids because they're more mature, they require less investment
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from us and less time from us, and when we
get them, who knows. We're fortunate to get to Paul Skeens,
who starts the All Star Game one year after getting drafted.
Skeens obviously is a very extraordinary case, but Skemes is
part of the movement that to your question about the
top ten picks, nine of them.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Nine of them.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Were college picks, so their colleges were in order, Oregon State,
Wake Forest, Georgia, Wake Forest, Arkansas, Florida, West Virginia, Tennessee,
Wake Forest. That's the top. That's nine of the top
ten picks, So I think that. And again even within that,
you hear a lot of warm Weather, acc SEC or
West in most cases West Virginia being the sort of
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the outlier in the big twelve. So it's it's an
interesting The draft is always sort of a case study
and where the balance of power is, and right now
in college baseball. It's heavily acc.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
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two crows and a cup of Joe JP. I got
to ask you so later on tonight if you had
to guess which All Stars are most likely to finish
the season with a different team than they are currently
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on coming in the next couple of weeks, so I.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Would say Garrett Crochet of the Chicago White Sox certainly
is one strong candidate. Kyle Fittigan, who's actually just added
from the Washington Nationals. He's a really fun pitcher to
talk about because he was the last guy added because
of injury replacement. And he might also be one of
the more likely guys to get traded because the Nationals
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just traded his late ending bullpen mate Hunter Harvey just
over the last few days to go to the Kansas
City Roy so schoobl I do think Derek Scooble more
likely than not will stay in Detroit, but I think
the chances of a Garrett Crochet move away from the
White Sox are certainly is higher. I think pe do
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Alonzo stays and I found it very interesting that peel
Ozzo was saying yesterday to the media at Media Day
that he really wants to stay in New York, that
he sees himself as a Met. I think that's good.
It's good for baseball. They're the New York Mets that
they shouldn't have to trade a player of Alonzo's caliber
when they're at least nominally still in the race. So
(27:35):
I think there certainly would have been a couple pathways
over the last month or so that would have resulted
in in me giving you a higher number. But I
tend to think schoobl stays, Alonzo stays, but Kyle Finnigan goes,
Garrett Crochet goes. I always think relievers are tend to
be the guys that we might hear getting moved a
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bit more often. But those those are sort of the
top of mind. Several names that occurred to me just
a moment ago.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
JP more and more from me before we let you go.
You know, we love betting, we love gambling. We got
to get your expertise here on what team that's maybe
hasn't had the best start to the season thus far,
but you think it's going to finish strong. Make the playoffs,
maybe make a little bit of a run come out
of the All Star break.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
O good question, Brady. So I'm not much of an
expert on this, but I will. I'm gonna get my
best here, so I look at if you want to
go with like a bit of a surprising pick. The
Boston Red Sox have developed a ton of momentum here.
They're only four and a half games back of the Orioles.
I don't know what kind of odds you could get
on them to win the division. I still think it's
most likely that either Baltimore or New York will, but
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Boston is way closer than anybody expected them to be,
and they ended the first half winning seven out of
the last ten before the break. So that's a team
that I would, depending on what the odds are, and
I have no idea what they would be to actually
win the division, might be able to. It's pretty good
odds on that one. I think Houston has really closed
the gap on Seattle. That race in the Al West
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is really interesting because it's only a one game lead
now for the Seattle Mariners, and I think the Mariners
have a ton of pressure on them to make an
addition at the deadline to really bolster that lineup. Whereas
Houston it's just like muscle memory for them. They know
how to win a division, and even though they are
somewhat of a flawed team, I tend to think that Houston,
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even though there's second place right now, has a really
good chance in my view, to actually make the playoffs
and potentially win that division. I think two in the
wildcard picture of the National League, the Diamondbacks finding a
way to get into the playoffs. You know that right
now that there's still a good distance back from the
Dodgers of course in the division, but only one game
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back in the wild card and so I like the Diamondbacks.
I also like the Cardinals as two teams that right
now are not in the playoffs that that I think
with some deadline that justments could get themselves in. So
those are a couple of teams that I think have
maybe a bit of a longer shot to make the
playoffs there in the National League. But I would give
a little.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Bit of energy to JP before we let you go,
My last question is is show had tany running away
with with the nlb uh you know MVP award?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is he is he the guy?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I think he is. You know, I want to at
least mention that with Philadelphia, there are certainly some players
on that team that might have a good case, you know,
Harper even missing some time of course at different points,
uh Trade Turner. I think those those guys, I look
at it and say they the Phillies group could could
(30:44):
usurp him and take it away. But man, show has
been so great. I thought that for a long time
his his toughest competition was his teammate Mookie Bets, and
Mooki obviously has been out for a while, so I
do think he's the favorite. But hey, if the Philadelphia
Phillies have some historic second half, I mean, they've got
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the best record in baseball right now, they're playing such
great ball that if Harper or even an Alec Bohm
or Turner who's missed time obviously, if they come up
with a huge second half, maybe, But I'm just kind
of grasping to come up with somebody that can win
besides show A. I think lebar to answer your question,
(31:24):
it is show A's award to lose at this moment,
and for tonight, the moment I'm really excited about. I
don't know if you saw a last night on MLB Network,
Juan Sota was asked about and he was there with
Aaron Judge because Judge is batt and forth, and basically
the question was posed him, Hey, for judge to face
schemes in the first round, you're gonna have somebody's gonna
(31:44):
have to get on base. And Soto right away said, oh,
I'll make sure that he gets on base. I'll make
sure that the judge faces scheme. So like the gauntlet
has been laid down, Jan Soto has said to the
world that I'm going to get a hit off with
Paul Skein's in the first inting to make sure that
Aaron Judge gets to that bat against schemes. So that
to me is the game within the game. Can Soto
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deliver on the big boast that he made on the
air yesterday, That to me is what I'm curious to
watch there the first in.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
John Palmrosi Fox Sports Radios, MLB Insider. You can also
see him on MLB Network and you can get him
on Twitter at John Rossi JP. We appreciate it, and
yes we'll be talking some Michigan football here with the
season approaching, I can't win, although.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I say I think, I really think Penn State Notre
Dame might both be better than Michigan this year. Rough
schedule for the Maze of Blue. I think they're nine
to three this season, and so I won't be surprised
that Penn State and Notre Dame looked a little better
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's there. Yes, that's a breakdown. Thank you, JP. We
appreciate it. Man enjoyed the game. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
The great John pal Morosi. Two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh so all
of us? Uh no good questions? Apparently you got one. Yeah,
we got a good enthusiasm from JP.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I think he's just I think he's acclimating to the
fact that we asked really good questions. I think when
we asked like, you know, kind of amateur questions.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
He says, grateful disclosure last week. But it was just
LeVar and I not good. It was not good.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
There was I mean, you got a what was it
an excellent point or something?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Excellent point? He gave me a he we have like
half a point for that. But I thought LeVar asked
some really good questions. He got nothing.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Absolutely just think that I just think that we're kind
of getting to his level. Now you know of understanding
of the MLB and you know baseball talk, and you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Know that he doesn't have to say, he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Have to shield us with great question, you know, to
the to our listeners, I'm just a terrible interviewer.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I've determined. But I think the only well, the only
reps we get which is a great host.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
At f A, I I just went kick need to
kick it open. I took off the hinges. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The reps that we get at all fairness are petros
and Albert Brear's dog.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So it's like, hey, you know, what are we really
working with here?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
So you know, not exactly the practice that would be
necessary to go ahead and get better at the gig,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You maybe should have more guests on your solo show.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh they don't want to hear from them. We want
to hear from me. Come on, that's how you're carried
away here.
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tire buying should be. So SEC media days is going down.
Greg SANKEI is the commissioner of the SEC, and according
to him, expansion at this point in time, with the
additions of Texas and Oklahoma, they're not looking past it.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (01:24):
Time engaged in that recruiting activity because we're focused on
our sixteen and I want to be respectful of the
difficulty that's currently faced with that issue, that set of
issues within the ACC and my colleague Jim Phillips, we're
focused on our sixteen period. You've seen how we've made
decisions over the last decade plus for contiguous states to join.
(01:47):
I think that's incredibly wise. It provides remarkable strength. The
last three questions are part of the reality, which is
I've responded now three times where our folks lies. Our
focus is on our sixteen members. I have a responsibility
to pay attention and I'm certainly not going to fuel
speculation on what happens next.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
So they are happy and content. Sixteen is there today,
sixteen is there tomorrow. According to Greg Sanke, are you
buying the idea that this is going to be what
it is with the SEC at least for the short
time with the remainder of the season coming up in
the conference moving forward.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean, I do, at least in the short term.
Long term, I'm not sure how you go about defining that,
but I keep trying to explain to people it's not
about so much even the conferences in their decision, It's
more about the TV networks behind it, because that's who's
pushing for realignment so they can control and have media
rights to it. So if you are ESPN or Disney
(02:51):
in this case, and you have the exclusive rights to
the SEC, why would you want to pay more for
Florida State or Clemson to add to the SEC when
you already own the ACC you have the rights to
them as well. So what would be the point of
having those two teams since they want to leave the
ACC just to be able to have those brands. I mean,
(03:15):
if it made financial sense, they would have already moved
them by now that's the truth. I mean, there's probably
a lot of Florida State fans and Clemson fans who
don't want to hear that, or even just in general
college football fans, but Texas and Oklahoma were worth it.
Those brands, the people who watched the way they're able
to attract viewership that leads to advertiser dollars, it was
(03:41):
worth it to be able to get those two in
the SEC. So realignment is as dependent upon the TV
network's decision behind the scenes to want them to go
to conferences as much as anything else. And so even
if Florida State and Clemson want to leave, they're going
to look for in our pastures because clearly, in this
(04:03):
specific case, even though we're talking the SEC, we're really
talking about those two schools. And you know, because there
are two of the bigger brands that have been making
waves to wanting to get out of their agreement with
the ACC. So there's three options. They'll probably either move
to the Big twelve, which seems most likely. Brett Yormark
to me is one of the best commissioners in college sports.
(04:25):
He's progressive, he's thoughtful, he's ready to kind of pounce
an act, and I think he'd he'd look at the
Big twelve teams that are in there, and I think
he said he thinks if he can enhance it any way,
he will. So if you're looking for a conference to
go to, that is trying to keep up with the
Big ten in the SEC and being proactive about it
(04:48):
in its approach, selling the naming rights to the conference,
private equity, infusion, all these things. The Big Twelve was
the conference for that, so it would make some sense
there maybe the Big Ten. If you look at Fox, CBS, NBC,
I'm sure they'd love to have brands like Florida State Clemson.
It you know, increases their geographic footprint as far as
where the schools are. That that's helpful to a small degree,
(05:12):
but it enhances the games. The problem is you have
to have the conference looking at and say, okay, we're
divving up the pie, Like, does a team like Rutgers
really want Florida State and Clemson coming into the Big Ten?
Does Ohio State care about what Rutgers wants? Or Michigan
Do they care about what Rutgers wants if they want
Florida State and Clemson in? But does does Michigan Ohio
State want Clemson in Florida State in? Do they want
(05:34):
a lesser piece of what they're getting from the TV contract?
So those are questions you have to answer. The other option,
which I kind of go back to the beginning of
all this realignment. Had we just taken football, all football teams,
all football programs, and said, let's just go independent. You
could schedule your your, your, your, your, your schedules however
you want and create it, but work out your own
(05:56):
broadcasting rights deal for football. That would have made every
life's so much easier for college sports because every other
conference could still exist for everything other than football. And
then that's the other option, is Florida State Clemson just
leave the ACC they go independent. It's probably unlikely, but
that is one of the other options that they could
go that route in essence, but they need a financial
(06:19):
windfall to be able to leave the ACC if they're
going to get hit with the granted rights, which obviously
penalizes them for doing so. But if they could find
another way to leave the conference without hitting them in
their wallet, that would be the most likely scenario.
Speaker 7 (06:36):
I would just say, simply put, from my perspective, my
angle on it is, there's no reason to disclose any
plans or any ideas what you're entertaining, what you're negotiating,
just on the simple fact that you never want to
give anybody any unnecessary ammunition or leverage against what it
(06:57):
is that you're doing. So I think that that's just
it's just a very very I'd say, you know, rule
one of the early rules and how you do business,
you don't let people know what your next move is
unless you're strategically letting them know what you're going to do. Yeah,
so we're comfortable with what we have until we're not.
(07:19):
I mean, it's no different than how we talk about
the eighteenth game that's coming for the NFL or anything
else that's out there. You know, even before the realignments
took place this past year, you know, when when everything
happened with the pack, it's there's no there's no benefit
to allowing people to know unless you see the strategic
(07:44):
benefit in releasing that information, to allowing people to know what, Okay,
we're going after Florida State. Like, okay, that could give
Florida State leverage because now you've put it out there,
so you got to get it done. You got to
try to get it done. That's leverage. If it's television,
whatever it is, their angle is they now see it coming,
(08:05):
they can prepare for it, they can get into the room,
they can talk about it, plan for it. What does
that look like? You're giving people the opportunity to maybe
catch up or get a hit, or be prepared in
a way where it's not advantageous for you, and you're
you're what you're doing for your business with the conference
that you're you're running, So why would you There's no
(08:26):
reason to sit there and put it out there, like,
just keep it, keep it to yourself until you know
what it is that you're going to do.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Does college does college football still feel like college football
to you guys, or has it become I don't know
if corporate is the right term, and I don't just
getting corporate. Well, I don't even know that it's in
a worse spot than it was. It's just different and
I just want it. It's just very different. And I
wonder if that different is a good thing for the
(08:55):
sport because like all these conversations, you know, we were
never have before. It was about you know, who do
you like? What's what's the season going to look like?
And it's almost gotten to the point to where and
I think you know, he was frustrated, great Saykie was
frustrated and even pointed out Listen, this is the third
time I'm being asked about these questions as opposed to, Hey,
(09:17):
we've got the season right around the corner, You've got
two new teams in you know, Texas is you know,
second in the odds to win the SEC, which would
be impressive coming from the big too. Like all that,
Like there's a lot to talk about. Andy, what anybody
wants to discuss is well, what about Florida State and
what about Clemson? And what about you know, next year
(09:38):
and the year after and the year after that. And
I just want like those were never conversations happen before.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
I think the infrastructure has to improve for the student athlete. Now,
that's to me. I would say that's the biggest concern if.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
You ask me, what do you mean by infrastructure?
Speaker 7 (09:52):
Infrastructure in terms of how you know, is our union
is there?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Like are the rules you know? In terms of what's
governing what's taking place?
Speaker 1 (10:05):
Can I be honest about it though, in the sense
that if here's the problem, look at football at the
pro level in the NFL. The NFLPA gets clobbered by
the NFL owners. I mean that's thirty two teams all right,
versus about every year about two thousand players able to
(10:26):
play in the league. And it's hard enough to get
that amount of players to come together to be able
to focus on one or two big issues like the
owners do, which is one of I guess my concerns
why the owners always end up winning out in the negotiations,
because the NFLPA usually has four or five six things
(10:47):
they're trying to improve on incrementally as opposed to one
or two big things. The owners want that change the
direction the course of the league, that you know, help
it continue to keep growing the way it has, which
is way more efective. So let's then take that and
apply it to the college level. So all these players
unionize and you can do the math. I don't care
(11:10):
to at the moment, but let's say there's sixty teams, okay,
that end up leading to a or even you know,
we can go one hundred and thirty if you want power,
you know, the power autonomous four the group of five teams,
now you know six, however you want to look at
it or conference excuse me, but even if you did
it for that, that's a huge, huge group of players
(11:35):
who then have to unite and come together to be
able to find a few things to make any progress.
And I know there's a lot more schools too than
professional teams, but still fractionally speaking, like like the numbers,
much less and so I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Think again within that school.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
But then the problem is gonna be you're gonna have
this unlevel playing field. That's the issue we have right now,
where you have state to state differences in nil laws.
You have even you know, you know, school to school
and state how they interpret it. It's not I mean,
there's been differences in college football forever. But once you
start creating a collective bargaining agreement, then everyone kind of
has to operate under the same rules. And if there
(12:10):
ends up being federal law, then those things can kind
of be applied at some point, right So.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
But there's still going to be different laws that govern
each one of these states though.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I mean, no federal law.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Would overcome all of that, and that's what would create
a level playing field.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Okay, I just to me, I don't think that you
try to bring every single school together. I think it's
more so by school, That's what I would think. I
think it would be more effective if those if those
structures were put in place by school to make sure
that the kids are one educated and that's that's a priority,
(12:46):
not that it's extracurricular. You know, it's almost like you
have to go into a direction of this is their job,
this is their major, this is and I think it's
a whole nother converse station, but I think it now
shines a light nil being able.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
To pay these players grow.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Like as we mentioned commercializing what college football looks like,
you have now shined light on the fact that how
important it is, how much money is being generated. There's
no reason to sit there and act as though, Okay,
you can play football as an extracurricular activity for the
school and get a scholarship for but you have to
(13:28):
go major in something else. I think I think that
conversation has to start ensuing as well, why isn't that
Why isn't football a major? Why isn't a major where
you take electives and different things like that that's connected
to you being a part of football. Get your education,
you get your degree, whatever it may be. That how
it kind of shakes out. But at some point you
(13:52):
can't keep saying that this is not a full time
gig that these guys have, because now there's appearances involved,
there's there's other things that other other commitments that these
players are starting to have.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Now that the landscape has changed to what it is now,
how many millionaires are in college football. How many what millionaires?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Not not that many. I mean it's I mean again,
you got to take out taxes and everything else too, right,
So a kid makes a millionaire, is not a millionaire?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, this because urines it.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
So I just wonder, you know, is this I don't know,
it's the whole The thing is complex, the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
It is complex. And then like there's no clear solution
all of it. How Title nine impacts all this is
yet to be seen. You know that the I believe
there's been a response to the House in CA settlement
as far as how they're trying to let that sort
itself out because knowing what's more litigation. I mean, that's
the hard part is like all this is is being
shaped kind of in the courts, and it gets tough
(14:50):
to do every single year where you're wining on the
court to decide how this is going to look and
you know how it's going to work moving forward. So
until again we get through probably this election this fall,
I think then you'll see Congress probably focus more on it,
even though they've they've already kind of played a small
role now and how things are being shaped out with
the House and NCAA settlement either way, I mean, the
(15:11):
bottom line is we're moving towards a better part of
college football, where I think it nationalizes the sport to
Levar's point, and these players are in essence, you know,
professional players now that are majoring in football.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I personally hate hearing that though, because like, no one's
hiring you because oh you're major in football. Great, Like
there's elements of that being the reality of it where
people are going to allow you to interview, people are
going to want to talk to you, people want to
see you because you did play football. But for all
the guys who played football and do not have an
NFL career, that doesn't usually work as quite as well,
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Like you need to provide them at least a foundation
and a baseline of an education that can help them
moving forward.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I don't disagree with it. But at the same time,
there are other elements. There's front office elements, there's there
are jobs.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But that's like then you got to learn you know, finance,
you got to learn you know.
Speaker 7 (16:06):
And I think those things should be connected to the
educational process.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
You should have to learn all that.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I just think you call it a were major in
football it's just like, okay, you know, like.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
I don't think I just I don't think it's dummy
down though. I think that what you're saying is is correct,
Like you shouldn't. I mean, it could be grounds keeping,
that's it could be. It could be you know, being
a GM and and for what it's worth, a lot
a lot of guys are ill prepared to take those
types of jobs, but because they never studied it.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
But that's because they didn't go to management, right like
that that's a management major, so that's what that is.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
But why couldn't that management aspect of it be incorporated
in a football football major?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
That's what I'm saying. So don't let's not look at it.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
I think you already got the major. Like, that's what
I'm saying. It's like if you I think, if you
want to get into it, you you you know, major
in business management and then then that's how you segue
into it.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, I don't think it has to be labeled that way.
I think that it should be label to football major.
That would be pretty sweet. What's your major football?
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Football?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
What's it to you at football? What was the what
it is?
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Who was that in the program? We charted the football
with them the whole time tool football.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
I taught you how to spell that.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
See that? Yous a beat it?
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, everyone walks the class that have a textbok, there's
a football there.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
There's there's definitely a lot to chew on when it
comes to uh, oh well.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
This situation, that's you're just just so good?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (17:31):
I'm just trying to tie everything together. It is Two
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Speaker 2 (18:55):
What's happening? How we feeling?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Jonas lavarn Brady, Good morning, my friends and All Star
Game Tuesday in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
Yeah, same to you, and listen. We buried it earlier
in the show. You're gonna be much nicer about it.
But I got to ask you. You were there at
the home run derby in Texas last night. What was
the feedback from the crowd or the people that you
were near upon hearing the national anthem?
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Because on television it was brutal.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I did watch the anthem. Oh uh. I've come to
say this in life, my friends, that that if that
if I can't do it any better than the person
who's up there doing it. I try to not say
much of anything. And I'm not a very good singer.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
No, could you could, Jay, I hear your voice, buddy,
you'd be better, trust me.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
If you just talked through the song, you'd be better.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
I did want. I watched it. I witnessed it with
everybody else. I saw, God bless. Alec Bohm did a
great job. I was just trying to trying to keep
that poker face going. He knew there were about a
million cameras there all over the place, and he knew
he couldn't laugh or couldn't smile, so he just tried
to just keep that neutral expression. And I'm a big
Alec Bohm fan, and he did a great job. Yeah,
(20:16):
I think Alec Bohm. I guess what I'll say is
Alec Bohm was all of America.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yeah, yeah, all right, that's a fair assessment, is this JP.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I wanted to ask you about the home run derby.
I talked about it earlier. I thought the forty pitches
and the clock, like one of them's got to go.
It felt like it was just so far removed from
the traditional home run derby. And I know you got
your old school element of it. With the three outs,
you can gain kind of another one for a longer
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home run. I'm just curious to get your overall thoughts
of it. Like I liked it, it was entertaining, but
I thought the pitches in the clock was too much.
It's almost like it put a lot more pressure on
the pitcher than it did actually the hitter to make
sure those forty pitches he's given him some good pitches.
Like I thought that was one of the biggest issues
with Bobby Wood Junior, is like it didn't seem like
a lot of the pitching was as good for him
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as it was the other hitters.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
You're so right, Brady that you are. When you're in
that event, you are totally beholden on the quality of
your pitcher. I mean, and in this case, there were
certainly some some veteran pitchers who have done him before.
Dino Evil, who was throwing the VP two task Hernandez
at the Champion Dino is one of the best VP
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throwers among all major league coaches. Very well known reputation
for Dino. He's one of the great but I think
that you're right, Brady, that there's we've talked so much
about this, this format and what works best. I think
at the end of the day, I look at last
night and say, whatever the format was, it brought us
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to some pretty interesting and dramatic moments. Bobby Junior coming
within what was it two feet maybe three feet of
of tying it late in the final round, Alec Bohm
I thought he got off a couple of good swings
late that would have actually put him ahead of ta Oscar.
And then of course there's the swing off that was dramatic.
I think those are probably the two moments from last
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night that that you'll go back to and remember. The
Bobby Witten nearly beating Tasker and then the same obviously
happening for Alec Bohm versus Tascar. But I think you're
right that maybe there's the format of last night did
put a lot of pressure on on the VP thrower.
I think also the distance is such a big part
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of the conversation around home runs now in Major League Baseball.
Certainly stat Cast has brought in that conversation that it's
a huge part of baseball right now, just in terms
of the way in which we're consuming MLB stats, So
it doesn't surprise me that that would be part of
the dialogue and part of the actual event structure. But
certainly we have come a long way from the original
(22:58):
black and white home run jerbys that we would watch
on that were like replayed on ESPN Classic. I believe
it was we were kids. The format is a little
bit different nowadays. And then I guess my my end
my end thought is we could still probably tweak the
format a little a little more brady to your point,
but I will I will appreciate those dramatic moments that
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last night's format.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Did give us.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
JP the the MLB Draft is taking place. There's twenty rounds.
That's that's a whole lot of rounds of drafting. What
what did you see and and let's just say the
top ten picks, What what was your takeaway from it?
It seems like it was pretty balanced from in between,
you know, pitchers to first basement to second basement to shortstops.
(23:46):
It just seemed like a lot of balance. What what
was your takeaway from day one in the top ten.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
Picks, Well, I think LeVar is a couple of things.
Number one it's the continued emphasis on college players and
and with with the minor leagues being smaller, and you're right,
it's it's amazing that we're talking about a twenty round
draft and it used to be fifty LeVar, it was
fifty up until less than a decade ago. And I
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think that what's happened is there are there are there
are now fewer minor league players who are under contract
to major league teams because of the restructuring of MLB,
uh the way they brought all the minor league levels
under the MLB umbrella as opposed of what used to
be the separate minor league baseball edge to teach, there's
there's a different philosophy broadly speaking, in player development. And
(24:36):
what's happened, LeVar, is that with with fewer rounds and
with fewer places on your on your roster, it's really
emphasized college players over high school and and what that
means is that basically, if you think about it, like philosophically,
MLB is saying, Okay, n Cuba, with all the change
(24:56):
happening in n CAA sports sort of like part of
this a little bit, We're going to let you develop
some of our better players for three years, and then
we'll instead of drafting them and paying them bonuses at eighteen,
we'll take a few high school kids. But we're going
to really prioritize at the top of the draft taking
college kids because they're more mature, they require less investment
(25:17):
from us and less time from us, and when we
get them, who knows. We're fortunate to get to Paul Skeens,
who starts the All Star Game one year after getting drafted.
Skeens obviously is a very extraordinary case, but Skemes is
part of the movement that to your question about the
top ten picks, nine of them.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Nine of them.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Were college picks, so their colleges were in order, Oregon State,
Wake Forest, Georgia, Wake Forest, Arkansas, Florida, West Virginia, Tennessee,
Wake Forest. That's the top. That's nine of the top
ten picks, So I think that. And again even within that,
you hear a lot of warm Weather, acc SEC or
West in most cases West Virginia being the sort of
(25:58):
the outlier in the big twelve. So it's it's an
interesting The draft is always sort of a case study
and where the balance of power is, and right now
in college baseball. It's heavily acc.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
At f John Palmer ROSSI joining us here on Fox
Sports Radio, Fords Radios MLB Insider with this yere n
two crows and a cup of Joe JP. I got
to ask you so later on tonight if you had
to guess which All Stars are most likely to finish
the season with a different team than they are currently
(26:30):
on coming in the next couple of weeks, so I.
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Would say Garrett Crochet of the Chicago White Sox certainly
is one strong candidate. Kyle Fittigan, who's actually just added
from the Washington Nationals. He's a really fun pitcher to
talk about because he was the last guy added because
of injury replacement. And he might also be one of
the more likely guys to get traded because the Nationals
(26:54):
just traded his late ending bullpen mate Hunter Harvey just
over the last few days to go to the Kansas
City Roy so schoobl I do think Derek Scooble more
likely than not will stay in Detroit, but I think
the chances of a Garrett Crochet move away from the
White Sox are certainly is higher. I think pe do
(27:15):
Alonzo stays and I found it very interesting that peel
Ozzo was saying yesterday to the media at Media Day
that he really wants to stay in New York, that
he sees himself as a Met. I think that's good.
It's good for baseball. They're the New York Mets that
they shouldn't have to trade a player of Alonzo's caliber
when they're at least nominally still in the race. So
(27:35):
I think there certainly would have been a couple pathways
over the last month or so that would have resulted
in in me giving you a higher number. But I
tend to think schoobl stays, Alonzo stays, but Kyle Finnigan goes,
Garrett Crochet goes. I always think relievers are tend to
be the guys that we might hear getting moved a
(27:56):
bit more often. But those those are sort of the
top of mind. Several names that occurred to me just
a moment ago.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
JP more and more from me before we let you go.
You know, we love betting, we love gambling. We got
to get your expertise here on what team that's maybe
hasn't had the best start to the season thus far,
but you think it's going to finish strong. Make the playoffs,
maybe make a little bit of a run come out
of the All Star break.
Speaker 5 (28:22):
O good question, Brady. So I'm not much of an
expert on this, but I will. I'm gonna get my
best here, so I look at if you want to
go with like a bit of a surprising pick. The
Boston Red Sox have developed a ton of momentum here.
They're only four and a half games back of the Orioles.
I don't know what kind of odds you could get
on them to win the division. I still think it's
most likely that either Baltimore or New York will, but
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Boston is way closer than anybody expected them to be,
and they ended the first half winning seven out of
the last ten before the break. So that's a team
that I would, depending on what the odds are, and
I have no idea what they would be to actually
win the division, might be able to. It's pretty good
odds on that one. I think Houston has really closed
the gap on Seattle. That race in the Al West
(29:07):
is really interesting because it's only a one game lead
now for the Seattle Mariners, and I think the Mariners
have a ton of pressure on them to make an
addition at the deadline to really bolster that lineup. Whereas
Houston it's just like muscle memory for them. They know
how to win a division, and even though they are
somewhat of a flawed team, I tend to think that Houston,
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even though there's second place right now, has a really
good chance in my view, to actually make the playoffs
and potentially win that division. I think two in the
wildcard picture of the National League, the Diamondbacks finding a
way to get into the playoffs. You know that right
now that there's still a good distance back from the
Dodgers of course in the division, but only one game
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back in the wild card and so I like the Diamondbacks.
I also like the Cardinals as two teams that right
now are not in the playoffs that that I think
with some deadline that justments could get themselves in. So
those are a couple of teams that I think have
maybe a bit of a longer shot to make the
playoffs there in the National League. But I would give
a little.
Speaker 7 (30:08):
Bit of energy to JP before we let you go,
My last question is is show had tany running away
with with the nlb uh you know MVP award?
Speaker 2 (30:19):
Is he is he the guy?
Speaker 5 (30:22):
I think he is. You know, I want to at
least mention that with Philadelphia, there are certainly some players
on that team that might have a good case, you know,
Harper even missing some time of course at different points,
uh Trade Turner. I think those those guys, I look
at it and say they the Phillies group could could
(30:44):
usurp him and take it away. But man, show has
been so great. I thought that for a long time
his his toughest competition was his teammate Mookie Bets, and
Mooki obviously has been out for a while, so I
do think he's the favorite. But hey, if the Philadelphia
Phillies have some historic second half, I mean, they've got
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the best record in baseball right now, they're playing such
great ball that if Harper or even an Alec Bohm
or Turner who's missed time obviously, if they come up
with a huge second half, maybe, But I'm just kind
of grasping to come up with somebody that can win
besides show A. I think lebar to answer your question,
(31:24):
it is show A's award to lose at this moment,
and for tonight, the moment I'm really excited about. I
don't know if you saw a last night on MLB Network,
Juan Sota was asked about and he was there with
Aaron Judge because Judge is batt and forth, and basically
the question was posed him, Hey, for judge to face
schemes in the first round, you're gonna have somebody's gonna
(31:44):
have to get on base. And Soto right away said, oh,
I'll make sure that he gets on base. I'll make
sure that the judge faces scheme. So like the gauntlet
has been laid down, Jan Soto has said to the
world that I'm going to get a hit off with
Paul Skein's in the first inting to make sure that
Aaron Judge gets to that bat against schemes. So that
to me is the game within the game. Can Soto
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deliver on the big boast that he made on the
air yesterday, That to me is what I'm curious to
watch there the first in.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
It'll be fun to watch.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
John Palmrosi Fox Sports Radios, MLB Insider. You can also
see him on MLB Network and you can get him
on Twitter at John Rossi JP. We appreciate it, and
yes we'll be talking some Michigan football here with the
season approaching, I can't win, although.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
I say I think, I really think Penn State Notre
Dame might both be better than Michigan this year. Rough
schedule for the Maze of Blue. I think they're nine
to three this season, and so I won't be surprised
that Penn State and Notre Dame looked a little better
the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
That's there. Yes, that's a breakdown. Thank you, JP. We
appreciate it. Man enjoyed the game. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
The great John pal Morosi. Two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Uh so all
of us? Uh no good questions? Apparently you got one. Yeah,
we got a good enthusiasm from JP.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
I think he's just I think he's acclimating to the
fact that we asked really good questions. I think when
we asked like, you know, kind of amateur questions.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
He says, grateful disclosure last week. But it was just
LeVar and I not good. It was not good.
Speaker 7 (33:15):
There was I mean, you got a what was it
an excellent point or something?
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Excellent point? He gave me a he we have like
half a point for that. But I thought LeVar asked
some really good questions. He got nothing.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Absolutely just think that I just think that we're kind
of getting to his level. Now you know of understanding
of the MLB and you know baseball talk, and you.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Know that he doesn't have to say, he doesn't.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Have to shield us with great question, you know, to
the to our listeners, I'm just a terrible interviewer.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
I've determined. But I think the only well, the only
reps we get which is a great host.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
And you know.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
At f A, I I just went kick need to
kick it open. I took off the hinges. Don't worry.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
I was there.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
The reps that we get at all fairness are petros
and Albert Brear's dog.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
So it's like, hey, you know, what are we really
working with here?
Speaker 4 (34:13):
So you know, not exactly the practice that would be
necessary to go ahead and get better at the gig,
but you know.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
You maybe should have more guests on your solo show.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh they don't want to hear from them. We want
to hear from me. Come on, that's how you're carried
away here.
Speaker 4 (34:28):
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Speaker 4 (36:11):
All right?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Lead to lot, what do we got? All right?
Speaker 9 (36:12):
Guys, we all know we're in for the MLB All
Star Game on Fox today.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
We were just talking about it with JP Morosi.
Speaker 9 (36:18):
But if you're looking for something else to watch, United
States versus Costa Rica and the women's International friendly soccer
match out out.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Uh yeah, I'm not gonna be able to watch.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
That out Sometimes that happens, Okay.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
We also got rookies reporting to training camp for the Bills, Bears,
Charger Chiefs, Dolphins, Giants, Saints, and Niners today in I
mean stinks for them.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I mean try to camp. Visit as bad as it
used to be. But you know, it's still training camp.
So I'm in for the fact that we're that much
closer the season. I'm out for those young men who
have to deal with a month of crap before you
have to actually go play some games.
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A lot of CAMPI coming up, Camp Tell a Bar Yeah,
and Camp abc D.
Speaker 9 (37:11):
And Happy birthday to a friend of the show, Will
Ferrell fifty seven years old and Corey Feldman fifty three.
Ever un till you about the time I scratched Corey
Feldon's car.
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What yep, scratch? Oh yeah, you delivering pizzas?
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Right?
Speaker 5 (37:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
Yeah, he got in the way, He got in the way,
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He got it away, buddy, Happy birthday.
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Is your car out of here?
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