July 18, 2024 • 40 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, LaVar champions Linebackers as the hardest position in sports. The Bears decline Caleb Williams request to not use a franchise tag. Plus, Caitlin Clark in NASCAR and Tom Brady disrespecting Terrell Owens.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Thursday edition, of course, we're going to
talk football. Albert Breer stops by. We're gonna get the
very latest rumors and reports on the wide receivers who
apparently aren't happy and want to be elsewhere, and a
potential what if in the NFL when it comes to
quarterback play. We're also going to have a conversation about
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what the hell you watched last night. There wasn't a
whole hell of a lot going on, but apparently it
was enough to put somebody on the hood of a car.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Don't worry, we will explain.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We're also going to talk about Toto the band, not
the song, but their liquor cabinet. We've got another discussion
as well too, and in case you missed it, we're
gonna hit on involving Terrell Owens and Tom Brady, and
we're going to close up shop with you in and
you out. It's all yours next here, Two pros and
a cup of Joe on a Thursday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Let's give this.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
So that was yesterday, well because I thought that was tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, because we had it, I thought it was all
the way up until football.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So because you know, we could recap the MLB All
Star Game, we had you know, Nicholas Cage and leaving
Las Vegas and in the national anthem before the home
run derby, had all that happening, Like there was you know,
a lot to get to yesterday that we covered, but
there was virtually nothing on last night. So the big
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question is what did you watch? What was on the
TV at the Arrington House?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Did you go?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Did you go Game of Goblins or whatever? It's called
a house? What is that thing called on HBO.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Tap it's House of Dragons these days? No, I did
not watch that yesterday?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So what was on? What was on teav Was there
any sports? Did any sports? Were you able to find anything?
A tennis tournament in Indonesia? Badminton? Was there anything on
sports wise that you watched?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Them?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Were like, you know what, I gotta make this part
of my Wednesday night.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Well, I mean I did tell you I watched Receiver
and they had my voice on on They had a
sound bite. They gave us no credit, by the way,
shouts out to you guys at Omaha and all that stuff. No,
no credit to the show or you know whatever you know,
ID for for the SoundBite. But I was watching Receiver.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
What was the quote that you gave?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
It was about McDaniel and how, regardless of what you
think or whatever. Uh that how how the team performs
is going to ultimately fall at his feet. It was
a really cool SoundBite. I mean, I was I was
sitting there, I'm watching it and it's like, you know,
I hear the dude talking about it, and it's like,
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oh s, like that's two pros and a cup of Joe.
That's that's one of the pros.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Like, dang, we have made it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That's what I.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Remember thinking the time. So I guess I don't know.
I guess we're turning into you know, household names. I mean,
when you end up popping up on you know, a
Netflix series and and you know you were it was
unexpected and you hear it like it's kind of cool,
so that happened.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And no credit whatsoever to no credit bro, no credit?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now do they on it? Because it's Netflix, right, that's
what the receiver is. So is it something to where
they're going to roll the credit to the end of
the entire season or do they not even need to wonder?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I didn't I didn't look at the end credits. I
just know they didn't credit it in in the in
the show, you know what I mean, Like as it
was happening, it didn't it didn't pop up like generally,
you know, they'll pop it up and be like, you know,
voice of or Da Da Da Da, And I'm sure
it's in the end credits somewhere, you know, I'll go
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back and see.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
My question is is receiver better than quarterback on Netflix?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Because there's a lot of person.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
If I'm being honest, If I'm being honest, this one
is a little bit more entertaining to me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because receivers, you work with two of them every Saturday.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I do.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
They are entertaining people. They're just wired differently, man, they
are wired differently than pretty much every Like I would
say cornerbacks rival them because those are the two personalities
that go head to head and you've they just always
say those guys are wired differently because they they're ultimately
on a niland and that they're the ones that have
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the hardest jobs to do, corners and receivers, so you know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And they're they're the most dependent on somebody else.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, Because if the quarterback doesn't get a good snap,
if the quarterback can't throw, if the quarterback doesn't get protection,
you know, if you're if the quarterback's not looking for
you right, if the quarterback doesn't see you, there's just
so And that was why I chose defense. Jonas, Like,
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outside of being the quarterback, it's like your your opportunity
for action could be so limited. And I played on
I played in offense, and I could just recall once
I established myself as a real threat at the position
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that I played, there would be games like in some
of the bigger games where I was a missdirection decoy.
You know, the whole defense was prepping and planning stop
Arrington and you stop North Hills from from winning the game.
So it'd be entire defenses paying attention to me. And
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so there would be games where we do, you know,
play action fakes. I had to run it up in there,
slam it up in there like I was like I
had the ball. I had to fake pitches like I
was getting the ball, did reverses, stuff like that, and
it would be for you know, the duration of a game,
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and we would win, you know, because the game plan
would sound. Shouts out to coach McCurry and and coach
Morris for having solid Yeah, they had solid game plans
to play off of what they felt the defense would do.
And and so for me, what I realized is is
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that you're at the mercy of the play caller. You're
at the mercy of of all the things I just
you know, detailed, and and so you.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Could work all week, all week.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
You gotta do practice, you gotta do the preparation, all
these different things, and you could go into a game
and get maybe one target, you know, maybe one catch
based off of what may or may not happen during
that game.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Got to go full speed every play.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Still, I just didn't like that man Like on defense,
especially at d N or linebacker. I mean I was
way too small to be like an inside interior d lineman,
but d N like on the edge or at the linebacker,
you got action every play, every single play, even if
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the ball went away from you, you still.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Get to get your hands, You get to touch people,
you know what I mean, like that, Yeah no you
take that? Yeah all right, all right, next play ball snap?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You know, like every play you get you get to
you know, test your strength or you know, getting somebody's.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Face or yeah yeah i'll be I'll see you next play.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah all right, yeah your mother yeah da da dah
yeah whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
So it's just one of those things where defense and
linebacker in particular, because they were the swing man. You know,
everybody talks about what the most difficult position is to
play in football. I've always said linebacker is the most
difficult position to play because you have to be strong
enough to play against offensive.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Linemen like a D lineman.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
You have to be elusive and have enough agility to
be able to do what defensive ends do.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's the defensive version of tight end, right would you
say no, Well, because tight end's got to do got
to block, no, got to run, block past block routes.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
The reason why it's not the same is because the
skill level of I mean, we're seeing tight ends with
more skill level now, but a linebacker has to be
able to read and react to a running back. They
have to be able to cover a running back. They
have to be able to cover a tight end. They
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have to be able to cover a receiver. You know,
those are generally the duties of a linebacker. You got
to be able to stop to run. So if you're
a tight end, blocking is blocking, you know you generally
you get help or you chip or whatever it may be. Like, sure,
you gotta run routes, but you know you're not going
to be lined up outside more often than not as
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like a true tight.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
End, you're not gonna be lined up on the outside.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You know, different things like that, you're not getting the
ball as a tailback.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know you're not. You don't, you just don't have
tight end duties.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Generally, a tight end is generally an extension of an
offensive lineman. They're just good enough to be able to
run out and catch passes like that. To me, that's
what a tight end is. No shade just saying they're
they're just smaller offensive linemen that are allowed to go
out and catch catch balls like that's it. A linebacker,
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the the responsibilities are so much more extensive. You know,
they got to be the extra defender versus the past.
Sometimes they have to be the person that covers covers
a guy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Man on man.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And one thing I always hated Jonas was when was
when you know, you always hear them say, oh.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
What a matchup problem.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There's no linebacker that could run with that tight end
or run with that receiver, like what a matchup is?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Like? Man, if you don't get up out of here
with that.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I still to this day when I hear that, it
makes my skin crawl when I hear that.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So, you know, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's why when it comes to wide receivers, who got
to figure it out. Guys like a Mari Cooper, Mike
Evans bitching and moaning, just production throctivity, keep their mouths shut.
Maybe not the most flashy, but can end up with
with borderline, but especially Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Hall of fall.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
All night we got a Amari Cooper held out and
nobody knew about it like those Oh he did. I
didn't even know because he didn't say anything. So it's
good to see, uh, good to see those guys getting
a little bit of shine. It is two pros and
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Speaker 6 (12:00):
Morning, you know.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
Or either that or he's at Royal Troon or whatever
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Speaker 5 (12:06):
He just new to avoid the show because this is
one of the slowest days in sports.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, he's smarter than us.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
Again, his device was smart enough to want to connect malfunction, malfunction, abort.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We
are going to have a discussion here momentarily about a
deal that finally got done in the world of football.
But it was very interesting how it got done. That'll
be yours here on FSR. But somebody sent over a
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picture Joe on Twitter found an old school picture of
Lebar Arrington. I'm assuming from high school. I mean, who
knows this might be you in elementary school.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
For all I know.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's my senior year, is it?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And uh?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And you were like, what do you think stands out
the most about that picture?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Have you got how shoulder pats are?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, not even that, but how about the fact that
you're rocking a pair of Newman's.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Old old school Newman gloves.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Getting rid of that was like that was the gold
standard if you had a pair of Newmans, you know,
because that was all that was what the pros wore.
You know, I got those from a pro. Shouts out
to Frank Collins, who was he was scab, but he was.
He was the brother of the great well is the
brother of the great the White Collins. That was a
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receiver for the University of Pitt If if you're if
you're a historian of the game, pretty pretty pretty pretty
amazing receiver. I'm I'm certain he played with Marino at
Pitt And so anyway, he was his He lived in
North Hills, because most most Steelers lived in in the
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North Hills area where I ended up going to high school.
And his son was a really really really really good athlete,
and he was coming up and and he ended up,
like you know, kind of volunteering at our school as
a coach. So he gave me a pair of Newman's,
gave me my first pair of Oakley glasses, like I
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was wearing Oakley's before. You know that you couldn't afford
Oakley's back then if you were a high school kid.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
He gave me a Mavado watch.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Like I was like, I like, if I seen him
with it on, I'd be like, dang, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Man, got a Evada watch when you were in that
high school.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, just because he was my guy, like he was
like my he was my he was my closest influence,
you know, and he was he was like who like
he was. He had a real strong influence on me
Jonas because he was he was very well kept, He
spoke well, he would demonstrate like for me, like when
I had to do certain things as a running back,
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he would give me like perspective on it and stuff
like that. And we became really really close, like super close.
I went to his house for Thanksgiving, you know, and
got a chance to like break bread with them, and
he just really gave me, gave me a great experience
in terms of what it was like to handle yourself
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as as a.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Professional, as a former pro.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Pretty It was pretty cool, man, It's pretty It's pretty cool.
And yeah, so so I had newman gloves, like even
just the way I, you know, kind of conducted myself.
I tried to mimic how he would handle himself and
how he spoke to people, because I knew that he had,
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you know, that level of success. But that's pretty cool
I had. I mean, Jerome Bettis was somebody who was
in my life back then as well, because we had
the same Barber. So Dave connected me with with Jerome Bettis.
I told you guys before D White, Yeah, what's up
do you? The white white? The white white lived in
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my community where I lived. So when I would run
run the community, I would see him out. I would
try to run out of time where I would see
him out getting his mail, you know what I mean.
Like there was a certain time the mail would come,
and generally more often than not, he would be out
at his mailbox. I would try to time it up
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where during my run and he would be out at
his mailbox, so that we formed a relationship off of me.
Like basically, I don't want to say I was stalking him, Jonas,
let's just say lightly, I just was.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I would get up.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
My motivation would be if I get up now and run,
start my run. Now, I know that Dwhite White will
be out getting his mail, and that would be like dang,
Like there's D White white, right. I would I would
run past them, and I would I would look at it.
I wouldn't say nothing because I was too intimidated to
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say anything, but I'd run and I see him and
and I'd be like I'd be running like hey, mister
white and he have his mail.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
He'd always shake his mail towards me as he.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Was turning the walk back into the house and and
it was like a good morning, right, and then that
good morning eventually turned into like hey kid, you know,
like he hit me with a hey kid, bro, and
I stopped. I was like, how you doing, mister White,
and he was like, man, he was like, I always
see you running. He was like, what you're training for?
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And I said, I said, well, I'm just trying to
be great. I saw something on Mike Tyson and he said,
while others are sleeping, He's like, I'm up running because
I feel like it's giving me a competitive edge over
my opponent.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I said.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I said, Sir, I said, I've been running ever since
I saw that on the special before his fight. And
he said, well, but why are you running? Like what
sport da da dae is like I played football? And
then we sparked a relationship. So I would continue to
try to run during the times that Dwight White would
be out getting his mail, and it went from you know,
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just him shaking his mail at me to hey kid.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
To go in.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
He give me like a gatorade or something like that.
On my run and we would talk. He would talk
to me about finances. He would talk to me about responsibility, ease,
and accountability, and how being being responsible and being accountable
far exceeded being an athlete, and how that would mold
and shape what I would end up becoming as a player,
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and if you follow the process, that things would work
out for you in a way that you would never believe.
So I was a beneficiary of of some really really solid,
you know, adult figures.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You see you see that because your local team, all right,
it you know, made you part of the family.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's not like in Cleveland where they stab Brady and
all fans in the heart and just tail to go
somewhere else, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
So yeah, man, how we're going to put it.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I'm just saying, yeah, oh oh oh, Brady's there. My bad,
I was going with. I would have disagreed if I
knew Q was there.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Damn, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was just living.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Listen to that riveting story you keep running out there.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Right, I got you, Hey that you know, that's just
how it happens when you know you you live in
the community of Super Bowl winning guys of your your
local hometown team.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That's all. You know, they just tell you something like that.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Was almost like that mean Joe Green commercial. It really was,
but just kind of like in real life. You know, yeah,
it's all good, it's okay. There was there were no
no Cleveland Browns that were getting their mail that could
talk to you about Super Bowls and stuff.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Damn well, that's that's true. I also didn't live in Cleveland,
so it was a little different, all right. Well.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
The interesting thing that I always find about like stories
like that is when you know people tell stories.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
It's like I've had guys who lost.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Super Bowls tell me the same story. You know, the
Mess is the message. The Mess talks to kids about
like what it takes and all that, like hard work everything.
I mean, it's all the same. It's just sometimes it
works out for some guys. Sometimes it doesn't for others.
Some guys are are, you know, elite and better than others.
I had talked about quarterbacks yesterday in the NFL, and
I was like, well, if you want to break down
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in tears, this patchball homes he's the top. Like, there's
there's no one right now in the NFL that's a quarterback.
They can say they're close to Patrick Mahomes, and then
you kind of break it down to the next group
of players who are trying to chase Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
But when Tom Brady was playing it with Tom Brady,
I mean.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Guys can talk about their talent or what else they
do and all that, but the general point is like,
what's what works for Patrick Mahomes. It works for Tom Brady.
A thousand of the guys are trying the same exact thing.
It's just it doesn't always work out that way.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
My son asked me yesterday, He's like, what do I
need to get to the next step in baseball? I said, Pds,
what do you look around?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I'm sure your son asked you that exact question.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Just what I mean in Spanish?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
What do I need to do to take the next step?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
In Spanish?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
But why he said baseball instead of another Well said baseball?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He said baseball?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Next step?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, next step? And I said that, yeah, Peds, and
I made sure he was to call his Graham to
see how you say that in Spanish? So little translation,
but it worked. He got the point. Now, you know,
we'll be getting on the gas shortly. H Speaking of
getting on the gas that is your own house, brou
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every time.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
What do you mean Jonas crosses the border when he
goes this house.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
That's what I'm saying. How did how you that guy
your own crib man? Like they can ice you out
whenever they want to. They started hitting that different like
you like, what are you saying?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's why?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I just I just walk outside. I got I
don't need to be here for this. I don't need
to feel insecure about myself. I mean, why do you
think I still keep the truck?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
You know?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Like, hey, what about this? Does this calling by?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Under?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So the deal is done in the NFL, by the way,
Caleb Williams, and you guys are really stressed about this,
and I don't know why. I was trying to tell
you it's gonna get done.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
And you guys are all love when you project like this.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So four years, thirty nine million dollars, twenty five point
five million dollars signing bonus. It's fully guaranteed in the
fifth year options on the back end there of the
contract as well too. Obviously him being over in the
first year with it. No, So here's the other portion
of that. What's wrong with you all right.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I just love what you do this. You're like, all right,
let's set it up.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Don't don't stawt on me. I didn't do anything.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
First off, I was reading the notes Bear's decline Williams
request to wave the fifth year option. It was trying
to waive a franchise tag clause. That was the first
issue that people thought was a little outside the box,
which it's really not.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
The fifth year option was always going to be part
of the contract. That standard.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
The franchise tag is something that even the NFLPA is
trying to get the NFL to remove so players can
get to Fregecy faster and they feel like that way
they could sign bigger contracts. So that was one of
the things Caleb Williams tried to put in this contract,
which clearly the Bears declined. The other two things that
actually find fascinating, And again I've always said this about
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Kayleb Williams. No matter what people how people feel about him,
is his antics or how he is on the field, whatever,
he is trying to push the envelope from a business standpoint,
and I think LeVar will appreciate this too. So he
wanted to be paid as an LLC, and the reason
why he wanted to be paid as an LLC in
Chicago is the fact that he wouldn't get taxed. There's
a zero Stitticum tax in Chicago or excuse me, in
(25:31):
Illinois for LLCs, and so that's why he was It
took a little bit longer because they were trying to
get clarification on whether or not if he.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Could do that, which doesn't why why can he do it?
It's a brilliant approach, it is. It was denied by
the league. And I think based on the definition.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Of what would be considered an employee or a W
two employee, not to get into the weeds too much here,
he'd be defined just like ever the player in the
NFL has been forever, so there's kind of a precedent set.
So I think you'd have a hard time proving how
he could be subcontracted. But look, it never hurts to ask,
right like why not? This is one of the only
chances you have a negotiating a contract, So it never
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hurts to ask the question to see if it's possible
to do it. So he was trying to save on
some money in that regard, and then he actually tried
to do it as a loan where he wasn't going
to have to pay any interest on it, and obviously
you know tax is on it for like ten years,
so that was another very unique approach to how he
was trying to do it either way. Like I said,
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I have no issue with why it took so long
because he didn't miss any time and they got.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
It done and he's gonna be the guy. So it
is what it is.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
It's a fully guaranteed four year deal with the fully
guaranteed fifth year.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Option should they exercise it.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
To be honest, I think he'll be good enough for
the next three years where they'll redo his contract and
he's not gonna have to worry about his fourth or
fifth year. So that's where it's headed for Bears fans,
and uh, it's gonna be fun to watch and see
how this season goes.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Because his dad is in commercial real estate rights, yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
And he doesn't have an agent, so his dad was
essentially representing him and letting him handle the negotiation.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
So they worked with the NFLPA.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
They tried to, you know, see what could be done
that's different than what's been done in the past, and
for people out there like, I don't like this, he's
he seems a little odd. That's how you move the
ball forward though, you know for players and you know
future prospects. That's how you continue to keep moving to
get contracts that fit more of what the players are
(27:38):
looking for. Like, someone has to go out there and
do it. It's no different than in the last CBA.
Whose name was on whose name was on the lockout
was Tom Brady. It was Brady versus the NFL. So
there has to be someone who ends up being and
I don't say the sacrificial lamb, but for lack of
better term, someone has to be the one to do
things that seem out of the ordinary in order to
(27:59):
be able to progress sometimes and Killer Williams isn't afraid
to do that, so I respect that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I think that's dope.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
If they got and you had this in your notes,
if they agreed to get rid of the franchise tag,
is that enough to push the eighteen game proposal in
player's mind? Is that enough of an issue to where
they're like, Okay, we'll do another game.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I mean, don't ask me because I think for an
eighteenth game, because that will eventually lead to twenty games.
You know, once you open up the door for that,
you get to another round number in eighteen, I think
you get the twenty. They get rid of all preseason
I would say no, because I would ask for the world.
If I'm an NFL player, I'd ask for lifetime healthcare.
I'd say, get rid of the franchise tags, which you
(28:40):
could make the argument too. The franchise tags, you know,
the reason why they work for owners is because it
saves them from potentially investing millions of dollars in a
signing bonus that leave their pocket right away and instead
end up being a base salary that is fully guaranteed
(29:02):
for that one year deal. That kind of kicks the
can down the road. And there's instances of players who
planned the franchise tag, and they plan on two franchise
tags and maybe they hit free agency, but they end
up being paid by someone else, or maybe doesn't work
out and they're not getting paid quite as much as
you thought.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
They would have a bigger long term deal.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
So the original tag designation was to save quarterbacks from
leaving your team and being able to get the free
agency sooner to be able to up that number. Well,
now it's been applied to so many other players.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I think the.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
NFLPA would like to see it go away.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Maybe there's some owners who feel like they'd like to
see a go way too, But I do think it's
been a vehicle that's allowed for owners to save money
at least there's short term. Even though it does kick
the can down the road and some owners have proven
that they've got to pay up, I still think that
they probably wouldn't mind getting rid of it either, just
(29:54):
to you know, I guess appease the players Union because
I mean, think about how many players you have franchise.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Tag a year eighteen twenty. I mean, let's say let's
say thirty two.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Let's say you know, you get one franchise designation per
year per player. So let's say all thirty two teams
use it. You're talking about thirty two of like two
thousand players. Do you like, if you're creating policy for
a collective Barney agreement, do you think that they're looking
at they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll go ahead and
get rid of that. We're gonna get that eighteenth game,
by the way, because it's gonna lign on our pockets
(30:27):
more and by the way, we're gonna put in a
clause where the next time we do do a jump
it goes from eighteen to twenty. So you guys need
to be good good with that as well. If we're gonna,
if we're gonna, you know, get rid of this franchise tag,
because I mean, think about that, like they're negotiating to
behalf of thirty two teams. You're negotiating behalf of like
two thousand players that are currently playing and then thousands
(30:48):
of players that have previously played, you know. So it's
just it's a hard negotiation to win.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
That goes back to the conversation of pushing the ball
forward because if you think about it, free agency didn't
even this at one point. Think about you. You were
getting drafted to a team and you were stuck on
that team. That's why there were super teams talking about
going back to another part of the conversation earlier on
the Steelers, they were able to build what they built
(31:14):
and had a dynasty because there was no free agency.
So then you create free agency and a player has
the opportunity to now choose what market they may want
to go to based off of if another team wants
your services and not changed the dynamic of how business
(31:36):
was done in the National Football League, so they had
to come up with NFL had the owners had to
come up with something that actually kind of protected their
interest at some point where it could say they could say, Okay,
I don't want to pay that much money if I
don't have to, so let's create a you know, a
provision or something that says, let's let you allow you
(31:59):
to what your value is, and if your value is
greater somewhere else and we don't want to match it,
we get the first right of refusal, then go. But
if we can't. But if we can't match or if
we want to match it, we're going to match it.
And if we need a little bit more time to
do it, let's just say I will take the averages
(32:20):
of the highest paid and the lowest paid and that's
what it's going to be until we figure it out.
So it's ultimately been a you know, a development business
wise for the owners to be able to see how
much it is they're going to have to pay for
one of these players that ends up building a value
to the team that they're playing for.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Definitely a constant evolution of how things are being done
business wise by both the institution of the NFL and
as well as the player themselves.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So we are going to have another edition of in
case you missed to come it up here shortly, but
for all the latest he's any yeah, all.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Right, thanks Jonas. We got golf going on right now,
the one hundred and fifty second Open Championship at Royal
Troon in the UK. A very crowded leader board at
the moment. You've got a five way tie for the lead.
Alex Norn, Adam Scott, Justin Rose, Chris Kirk and Russell
Hensley all at two under par. They've got a one
shot lead over a group of about eight other players.
(33:22):
Checked some notables defending champ Brian Harmon from the US
and Roy mclory. They're both even par through five holes.
John Rahm is plus one through seven holes. And it
is not a good first round for Bryson to Shambeau.
He's five over par through six holes. He's got four
bogies and I think a double bogie so far, so
(33:44):
he's not enjoying his time there at Royal Troon so far.
We had some basketball men's US national team playing their
third pre Olympic tune up game and they rollover in
NBA MVP Nicole Jokic and Serbia one O five seventy nine.
US win. Steph Curry twenty four points of lead the way.
He had six three pointers. The US will open up
Olympic play against Serbia in Paris. On July the twenty
(34:05):
eighth NBA Summer League Lakers beat the Hawks eighty seventy six.
Brownie James his best game so far in the Summer
League twelve points, five of eleven from the field. He
had a couple of three pointers. He was zero for
fifteen buying the three point line. Coming into the game,
he had went two for five in this one w WNBA.
The Fever lose to the Wings one oh one ninety three,
but in the lost Indiana's Caitlin Clark twenty four points
(34:27):
in an NBA record nineteen assists.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
What about the other teams, Eddie, I don't know exactly.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
I don't know. They didn't tell me. I had to
give those scores. That's great and now back to Brady
Queen the bar ergs any Jonas Knox at tirack dot com,
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Speaker 5 (34:44):
Well, I'll tell you that Indiana fever for I'll tell
you what. You gotta make sure we keep bump on
what their scores and what they're ranking is.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Damn, hold on.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Hold on, you guys asked what I was doing. I
watched last night. I watched the end of that game.
I'll say this much.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Man, she had a turnover there kind of towards the end.
But she she needs help. I mean, she had nineteen assists,
so goes someone was scoring besides her, but she dropped
a dime towards the end and it got taken. It's
got stolen to think from, like their forward I'm not
even sure who was. But that girl needs some help.
Like she's just she's the only she's the only thing
out there consistently balling. It's it's tough to watch sometimes.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well, you know, she might be the face of the
entire sport, but if you believe some of this and
some of these details that are coming out, she might
also be the face of an entire other sport.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Literally, we'll get to that next year.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
On FSR.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
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Speaker 4 (36:23):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here to
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Speaker 1 (36:33):
It, and for that we turn it over to our
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Speaker 10 (36:37):
Good morning everybody, guys. In case you missed it, Caitlin
Clark is going to be playing in the double NBA
All Star Hey, either are gonna be playing in the
w NBA All Star Game on Saturday, July twentieth, this
Saturday in Phoenix. But she's also going to be competing
the next day on the hood of the number four
Josh Barry Stuart Hoss racing car in the brickyard four
(36:58):
hundred and then.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Which performing she's gonna be, Man, she's gonna be what
you mean, she's gonna be just for dollars? What's gonna be?
Raining threes?
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Man, they're gonna be displaying the Panini raining threes insert.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Gonna be making it rain on the hood of a
car at the yard?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Is it on the hood or in the hood on
the hood?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
What you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:19):
I just I just can dang Jonas Damn you walk
me right into that one.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I mean you never know these days make it rain.
She's making it rain before?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, raining threes?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Man, do you think Angel Reese is gonna handle.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
She's gonna be sitting there like, why ain't get the.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Do you see what I was wearing the other night?
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Heye?
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Your thoughts stuff where you're getting recognized for everything, But basket.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Very interesting. What was the score of their game the
other night?
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Hey, I can we get an update on what Chicago
score was?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
LeVar Roade on the text LeVar Rode on the text.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Out and then yeah, okay.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
All right, guys, Hey, I got one for you.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I gotta put it here.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Treell Owen says he was disrespected by Tom Brady was
on the Bubba Dubb Show.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Take a listen or me, bro.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
Hu maybe in his last year in Temple Bay, the
year that Ab went went crazy.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
On Okay when from the Jets.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah right, And I know, and I think everybody knew.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
I think about a year and a half two ago,
and I was talking about coming back.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
And so at that point time, it was at the end.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Of the season.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
I didn't need to play a full season.
Speaker 11 (38:47):
I just they just needed somebody to at least fulfill
some holes with AB leaving at the receiver position. I
reached out to him through Randy and a couple other people,
just to come in and just play third down, third down,
the red zone situation.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
You know, this dude really ignored me.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Broke just shows you how like the lack of respect did.
Speaker 11 (39:08):
But then when they get in front of you, they
want to act like they respect you.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Wow, got burned.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
I guess he should have responded, But this was in
the middle of the season he was dealing with.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I mean, he didn't Tony Brown live with him when
he was there.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
Yeah, then there's like those elements to it.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Like I mean, he's trying to figure out a way
he's going to pay the you know, pick up the
other portion of that rent ab was paying, so he
had bigger things to worry about.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Dang.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, I'm not sure about all that. I'm just saying
like we never talked.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
We never talked about that aspect of things, Like an
Tony Brown left the field that day, did he show
back up.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
At like Tom's place in Tampa.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I'm here to gather the rest of my things, Like
how that go?
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I want to hear that story.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Here's you with Tom drinking the coffee with a robe on.
Up out of here.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Yeah, Antonio Brown walks in with two hicks.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
He's like, Hey, damn, hey, get up out of here,
get on that hood.
Two Pros and a cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
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very latest rumors and reports on the wide receivers who
apparently aren't happy and want to be elsewhere, and a
potential what if in the NFL when it comes to
quarterback play. We're also going to have a conversation about
(00:22):
what the hell you watched last night. There wasn't a
whole hell of a lot going on, but apparently it
was enough to put somebody on the hood of a car.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Don't worry, we will explain.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
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the song, but their liquor cabinet. We've got another discussion
as well too, and in case you missed it, we're
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Speaker 3 (01:37):
So that was yesterday, well because I thought that was tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, because we had it, I thought it was all
the way up until football.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
So because you know, we could recap the MLB All
Star Game, we had you know, Nicholas Cage and leaving
Las Vegas and in the national anthem before the home
run derby, had all that happening, Like there was you know,
a lot to get to yesterday that we covered, but
there was virtually nothing on last night. So the big
(02:07):
question is what did you watch? What was on the
TV at the Arrington House?
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Did you go?
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Did you go Game of Goblins or whatever? It's called
a house? What is that thing called on HBO.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
Tap it's House of Dragons these days? No, I did
not watch that yesterday?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
So what was on? What was on teav Was there
any sports? Did any sports? Were you able to find anything?
A tennis tournament in Indonesia? Badminton? Was there anything on
sports wise that you watched?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Them?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Were like, you know what, I gotta make this part
of my Wednesday night.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
Well, I mean I did tell you I watched Receiver
and they had my voice on on They had a
sound bite. They gave us no credit, by the way,
shouts out to you guys at Omaha and all that stuff. No,
no credit to the show or you know whatever you know,
ID for for the SoundBite. But I was watching Receiver.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
What was the quote that you gave?
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (03:12):
It was about McDaniel and how, regardless of what you
think or whatever. Uh that how how the team performs
is going to ultimately fall at his feet. It was
a really cool SoundBite. I mean, I was I was
sitting there, I'm watching it and it's like, you know,
I hear the dude talking about it, and it's like,
(03:35):
oh s, like that's two pros and a cup of Joe.
That's that's one of the pros.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
Like, dang, we have made it.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
That's what I.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Remember thinking the time. So I guess I don't know.
I guess we're turning into you know, household names. I mean,
when you end up popping up on you know, a
Netflix series and and you know you were it was
unexpected and you hear it like it's kind of cool,
so that happened.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And no credit whatsoever to no credit bro, no credit?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Now do they on it? Because it's Netflix, right, that's
what the receiver is. So is it something to where
they're going to roll the credit to the end of
the entire season or do they not even need to wonder?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (04:17):
I didn't I didn't look at the end credits. I
just know they didn't credit it in in the in
the show, you know what I mean, Like as it
was happening, it didn't it didn't pop up like generally,
you know, they'll pop it up and be like, you know,
voice of or Da Da Da Da, And I'm sure
it's in the end credits somewhere, you know, I'll go
(04:39):
back and see.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
My question is is receiver better than quarterback on Netflix?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Because there's a lot of person.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
If I'm being honest, If I'm being honest, this one
is a little bit more entertaining to me.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Because receivers, you work with two of them every Saturday.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I do.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
They are entertaining people. They're just wired differently, man, they
are wired differently than pretty much every Like I would
say cornerbacks rival them because those are the two personalities
that go head to head and you've they just always
say those guys are wired differently because they they're ultimately
on a niland and that they're the ones that have
(05:17):
the hardest jobs to do, corners and receivers, so you know.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
And they're they're the most dependent on somebody else.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Yeah, Because if the quarterback doesn't get a good snap,
if the quarterback can't throw, if the quarterback doesn't get protection,
you know, if you're if the quarterback's not looking for
you right, if the quarterback doesn't see you, there's just
so And that was why I chose defense. Jonas, Like,
(05:49):
outside of being the quarterback, it's like your your opportunity
for action could be so limited. And I played on
I played in offense, and I could just recall once
I established myself as a real threat at the position
(06:12):
that I played, there would be games like in some
of the bigger games where I was a missdirection decoy.
You know, the whole defense was prepping and planning stop
Arrington and you stop North Hills from from winning the game.
So it'd be entire defenses paying attention to me. And
(06:37):
so there would be games where we do, you know,
play action fakes. I had to run it up in there,
slam it up in there like I was like I
had the ball. I had to fake pitches like I
was getting the ball, did reverses, stuff like that, and
it would be for you know, the duration of a game,
(06:57):
and we would win, you know, because the game plan
would sound. Shouts out to coach McCurry and and coach
Morris for having solid Yeah, they had solid game plans
to play off of what they felt the defense would do.
And and so for me, what I realized is is
(07:20):
that you're at the mercy of the play caller. You're
at the mercy of of all the things I just
you know, detailed, and and so you.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Could work all week, all week.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
You gotta do practice, you gotta do the preparation, all
these different things, and you could go into a game
and get maybe one target, you know, maybe one catch
based off of what may or may not happen during
that game.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Got to go full speed every play.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Still, I just didn't like that man Like on defense,
especially at d N or linebacker. I mean I was
way too small to be like an inside interior d lineman,
but d N like on the edge or at the linebacker,
you got action every play, every single play, even if
(08:12):
the ball went away from you, you still.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Get to get your hands, You get to touch people,
you know what I mean, like that, Yeah no you
take that? Yeah all right, all right, next play ball snap?
Speaker 6 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
You know, like every play you get you get to
you know, test your strength or you know, getting somebody's.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Face or yeah yeah i'll be I'll see you next play.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Yeah all right, yeah your mother yeah da da dah
yeah whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
So it's just one of those things where defense and
linebacker in particular, because they were the swing man. You know,
everybody talks about what the most difficult position is to
play in football. I've always said linebacker is the most
difficult position to play because you have to be strong
enough to play against offensive.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
Linemen like a D lineman.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
You have to be elusive and have enough agility to
be able to do what defensive ends do.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's the defensive version of tight end, right would you
say no, Well, because tight end's got to do got
to block, no, got to run, block past block routes.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
The reason why it's not the same is because the
skill level of I mean, we're seeing tight ends with
more skill level now, but a linebacker has to be
able to read and react to a running back. They
have to be able to cover a running back. They
have to be able to cover a tight end. They
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have to be able to cover a receiver. You know,
those are generally the duties of a linebacker. You got
to be able to stop to run. So if you're
a tight end, blocking is blocking, you know you generally
you get help or you chip or whatever it may be. Like, sure,
you gotta run routes, but you know you're not going
to be lined up outside more often than not as
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like a true tight.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
End, you're not gonna be lined up on the outside.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
You know, different things like that, you're not getting the
ball as a tailback.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
You know you're not. You don't, you just don't have
tight end duties.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Generally, a tight end is generally an extension of an
offensive lineman. They're just good enough to be able to
run out and catch passes like that. To me, that's
what a tight end is. No shade just saying they're
they're just smaller offensive linemen that are allowed to go
out and catch catch balls like that's it. A linebacker,
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the the responsibilities are so much more extensive. You know,
they got to be the extra defender versus the past.
Sometimes they have to be the person that covers covers
a guy.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Man on man.
Speaker 5 (10:56):
And one thing I always hated Jonas was when was
when you know, you always hear them say, oh.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
What a matchup problem.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
There's no linebacker that could run with that tight end
or run with that receiver, like what a matchup is?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Like? Man, if you don't get up out of here
with that.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I still to this day when I hear that, it
makes my skin crawl when I hear that.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So, you know, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's why when it comes to wide receivers, who got
to figure it out. Guys like a Mari Cooper, Mike
Evans bitching and moaning, just production throctivity, keep their mouths shut.
Maybe not the most flashy, but can end up with
with borderline, but especially Mike Evans.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Hall of fall.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
All night we got a Amari Cooper held out and
nobody knew about it like those Oh he did. I
didn't even know because he didn't say anything. So it's
good to see, uh, good to see those guys getting
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Two Pros and a cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. We
are going to have a discussion here momentarily about a
deal that finally got done in the world of football.
But it was very interesting how it got done. That'll
be yours here on FSR. But somebody sent over a
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picture Joe on Twitter found an old school picture of
Lebar Arrington. I'm assuming from high school. I mean, who
knows this might be you in elementary school.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
For all I know.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
That's my senior year, is it?
Speaker 2 (14:29):
And uh?
Speaker 1 (14:30):
And you were like, what do you think stands out
the most about that picture?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Have you got how shoulder pats are?
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Well, not even that, but how about the fact that
you're rocking a pair of Newman's.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Old old school Newman gloves.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
Getting rid of that was like that was the gold
standard if you had a pair of Newmans, you know,
because that was all that was what the pros wore.
You know, I got those from a pro. Shouts out
to Frank Collins, who was he was scab, but he was.
He was the brother of the great well is the
brother of the great the White Collins. That was a
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receiver for the University of Pitt If if you're if
you're a historian of the game, pretty pretty pretty pretty
amazing receiver. I'm I'm certain he played with Marino at
Pitt And so anyway, he was his He lived in
North Hills, because most most Steelers lived in in the
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North Hills area where I ended up going to high school.
And his son was a really really really really good athlete,
and he was coming up and and he ended up,
like you know, kind of volunteering at our school as
a coach. So he gave me a pair of Newman's,
gave me my first pair of Oakley glasses, like I
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was wearing Oakley's before. You know that you couldn't afford
Oakley's back then if you were a high school kid.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
He gave me a Mavado watch.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Like I was like, I like, if I seen him
with it on, I'd be like, dang, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Man, got a Evada watch when you were in that
high school.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
Yeah, just because he was my guy, like he was
like my he was my he was my closest influence,
you know, and he was he was like who like
he was. He had a real strong influence on me
Jonas because he was he was very well kept, He
spoke well, he would demonstrate like for me, like when
I had to do certain things as a running back,
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he would give me like perspective on it and stuff
like that. And we became really really close, like super close.
I went to his house for Thanksgiving, you know, and
got a chance to like break bread with them, and
he just really gave me, gave me a great experience
in terms of what it was like to handle yourself
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as as a.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
Professional, as a former pro.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
How about that?
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Pretty It was pretty cool, man, It's pretty It's pretty cool.
And yeah, so so I had newman gloves, like even
just the way I, you know, kind of conducted myself.
I tried to mimic how he would handle himself and
how he spoke to people, because I knew that he had,
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you know, that level of success. But that's pretty cool
I had. I mean, Jerome Bettis was somebody who was
in my life back then as well, because we had
the same Barber. So Dave connected me with with Jerome Bettis.
I told you guys before D White, Yeah, what's up
do you? The white white? The white white lived in
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my community where I lived. So when I would run
run the community, I would see him out. I would
try to run out of time where I would see
him out getting his mail, you know what I mean.
Like there was a certain time the mail would come,
and generally more often than not, he would be out
at his mailbox. I would try to time it up
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where during my run and he would be out at
his mailbox, so that we formed a relationship off of me.
Like basically, I don't want to say I was stalking him, Jonas,
let's just say lightly, I just was.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
I would get up.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
My motivation would be if I get up now and run,
start my run. Now, I know that Dwhite White will
be out getting his mail, and that would be like dang,
Like there's D White white, right. I would I would
run past them, and I would I would look at it.
I wouldn't say nothing because I was too intimidated to
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say anything, but I'd run and I see him and
and I'd be like I'd be running like hey, mister
white and he have his mail.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
He'd always shake his mail towards me as he.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Was turning the walk back into the house and and
it was like a good morning, right, and then that
good morning eventually turned into like hey kid, you know,
like he hit me with a hey kid, bro, and
I stopped. I was like, how you doing, mister White,
and he was like, man, he was like, I always
see you running. He was like, what you're training for?
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And I said, I said, well, I'm just trying to
be great. I saw something on Mike Tyson and he said,
while others are sleeping, He's like, I'm up running because
I feel like it's giving me a competitive edge over
my opponent.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I said.
Speaker 5 (19:23):
I said, Sir, I said, I've been running ever since
I saw that on the special before his fight. And
he said, well, but why are you running? Like what
sport da da dae is like I played football? And
then we sparked a relationship. So I would continue to
try to run during the times that Dwight White would
be out getting his mail, and it went from you know,
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just him shaking his mail at me to hey kid.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
To go in.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
He give me like a gatorade or something like that.
On my run and we would talk. He would talk
to me about finances. He would talk to me about responsibility, ease,
and accountability, and how being being responsible and being accountable
far exceeded being an athlete, and how that would mold
and shape what I would end up becoming as a player,
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and if you follow the process, that things would work
out for you in a way that you would never believe.
So I was a beneficiary of of some really really solid,
you know, adult figures.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
You see you see that because your local team, all right,
it you know, made you part of the family.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
All right.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
It's not like in Cleveland where they stab Brady and
all fans in the heart and just tail to go
somewhere else, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
So yeah, man, how we're going to put it.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
I'm just saying, yeah, oh oh oh, Brady's there. My bad,
I was going with. I would have disagreed if I
knew Q was there.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Damn, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
I was just living.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
Listen to that riveting story you keep running out there.
Speaker 5 (20:56):
Right, I got you, Hey that you know, that's just
how it happens when you know you you live in
the community of Super Bowl winning guys of your your
local hometown team.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
That's all. You know, they just tell you something like that.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Was almost like that mean Joe Green commercial. It really was,
but just kind of like in real life. You know, yeah,
it's all good, it's okay. There was there were no
no Cleveland Browns that were getting their mail that could
talk to you about Super Bowls and stuff.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Damn well, that's that's true. I also didn't live in Cleveland,
so it was a little different, all right. Well.
Speaker 8 (21:29):
The interesting thing that I always find about like stories
like that is when you know people tell stories.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
It's like I've had guys who lost.
Speaker 8 (21:36):
Super Bowls tell me the same story. You know, the
Mess is the message. The Mess talks to kids about
like what it takes and all that, like hard work everything.
I mean, it's all the same. It's just sometimes it
works out for some guys. Sometimes it doesn't for others.
Some guys are are, you know, elite and better than others.
I had talked about quarterbacks yesterday in the NFL, and
I was like, well, if you want to break down
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in tears, this patchball homes he's the top. Like, there's
there's no one right now in the NFL that's a quarterback.
They can say they're close to Patrick Mahomes, and then
you kind of break it down to the next group
of players who are trying to chase Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
But when Tom Brady was playing it with Tom Brady,
I mean.
Speaker 8 (22:15):
Guys can talk about their talent or what else they
do and all that, but the general point is like,
what's what works for Patrick Mahomes. It works for Tom Brady.
A thousand of the guys are trying the same exact thing.
It's just it doesn't always work out that way.
Speaker 6 (22:30):
It's true.
Speaker 1 (22:30):
My son asked me yesterday, He's like, what do I
need to get to the next step in baseball? I said, Pds,
what do you look around?
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I'm sure your son asked you that exact question.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Just what I mean in Spanish?
Speaker 6 (22:42):
What do I need to do to take the next step?
Speaker 2 (22:44):
In Spanish?
Speaker 5 (22:45):
But why he said baseball instead of another Well said baseball?
Speaker 2 (22:49):
He said baseball?
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Next step?
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Yeah, next step? And I said that, yeah, Peds, and
I made sure he was to call his Graham to
see how you say that in Spanish? So little translation,
but it worked. He got the point. Now, you know,
we'll be getting on the gas shortly. H Speaking of
getting on the gas that is your own house, brou
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every time.
Speaker 8 (23:16):
What do you mean Jonas crosses the border when he
goes this house.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
That's what I'm saying. How did how you that guy
your own crib man? Like they can ice you out
whenever they want to. They started hitting that different like
you like, what are you saying?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
That's why?
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I just I just walk outside. I got I
don't need to be here for this. I don't need
to feel insecure about myself. I mean, why do you
think I still keep the truck?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
You know?
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Like, hey, what about this? Does this calling by?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Under?
Speaker 1 (23:48):
So the deal is done in the NFL, by the way,
Caleb Williams, and you guys are really stressed about this,
and I don't know why. I was trying to tell
you it's gonna get done.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
And you guys are all love when you project like this.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
So four years, thirty nine million dollars, twenty five point
five million dollars signing bonus. It's fully guaranteed in the
fifth year options on the back end there of the
contract as well too. Obviously him being over in the
first year with it. No, So here's the other portion
of that. What's wrong with you all right.
Speaker 6 (24:23):
I just love what you do this. You're like, all right,
let's set it up.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Don't don't stawt on me. I didn't do anything.
Speaker 8 (24:28):
First off, I was reading the notes Bear's decline Williams
request to wave the fifth year option. It was trying
to waive a franchise tag clause. That was the first
issue that people thought was a little outside the box,
which it's really not.
Speaker 6 (24:42):
The fifth year option was always going to be part
of the contract. That standard.
Speaker 8 (24:45):
The franchise tag is something that even the NFLPA is
trying to get the NFL to remove so players can
get to Fregecy faster and they feel like that way
they could sign bigger contracts. So that was one of
the things Caleb Williams tried to put in this contract,
which clearly the Bears declined. The other two things that
actually find fascinating, And again I've always said this about
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Kayleb Williams. No matter what people how people feel about him,
is his antics or how he is on the field, whatever,
he is trying to push the envelope from a business standpoint,
and I think LeVar will appreciate this too. So he
wanted to be paid as an LLC, and the reason
why he wanted to be paid as an LLC in
Chicago is the fact that he wouldn't get taxed. There's
a zero Stitticum tax in Chicago or excuse me, in
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Illinois for LLCs, and so that's why he was It
took a little bit longer because they were trying to
get clarification on whether or not if he.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
Could do that, which doesn't why why can he do it?
It's a brilliant approach, it is. It was denied by
the league. And I think based on the definition.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Of what would be considered an employee or a W
two employee, not to get into the weeds too much here,
he'd be defined just like ever the player in the
NFL has been forever, so there's kind of a precedent set.
So I think you'd have a hard time proving how
he could be subcontracted. But look, it never hurts to ask,
right like why not? This is one of the only
chances you have a negotiating a contract, So it never
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hurts to ask the question to see if it's possible
to do it. So he was trying to save on
some money in that regard, and then he actually tried
to do it as a loan where he wasn't going
to have to pay any interest on it, and obviously
you know tax is on it for like ten years,
so that was another very unique approach to how he
was trying to do it either way. Like I said,
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I have no issue with why it took so long
because he didn't miss any time and they got.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
It done and he's gonna be the guy. So it
is what it is.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
It's a fully guaranteed four year deal with the fully
guaranteed fifth year.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
Option should they exercise it.
Speaker 8 (26:50):
To be honest, I think he'll be good enough for
the next three years where they'll redo his contract and
he's not gonna have to worry about his fourth or
fifth year. So that's where it's headed for Bears fans,
and uh, it's gonna be fun to watch and see
how this season goes.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Because his dad is in commercial real estate rights, yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
And he doesn't have an agent, so his dad was
essentially representing him and letting him handle the negotiation.
Speaker 6 (27:15):
So they worked with the NFLPA.
Speaker 8 (27:17):
They tried to, you know, see what could be done
that's different than what's been done in the past, and
for people out there like, I don't like this, he's
he seems a little odd. That's how you move the
ball forward though, you know for players and you know
future prospects. That's how you continue to keep moving to
get contracts that fit more of what the players are
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looking for. Like, someone has to go out there and
do it. It's no different than in the last CBA.
Whose name was on whose name was on the lockout
was Tom Brady. It was Brady versus the NFL. So
there has to be someone who ends up being and
I don't say the sacrificial lamb, but for lack of
better term, someone has to be the one to do
things that seem out of the ordinary in order to
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be able to progress sometimes and Killer Williams isn't afraid
to do that, so I respect that.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I think that's dope.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
If they got and you had this in your notes,
if they agreed to get rid of the franchise tag,
is that enough to push the eighteen game proposal in
player's mind? Is that enough of an issue to where
they're like, Okay, we'll do another game.
Speaker 8 (28:20):
I mean, don't ask me because I think for an
eighteenth game, because that will eventually lead to twenty games.
You know, once you open up the door for that,
you get to another round number in eighteen, I think
you get the twenty. They get rid of all preseason
I would say no, because I would ask for the world.
If I'm an NFL player, I'd ask for lifetime healthcare.
I'd say, get rid of the franchise tags, which you
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could make the argument too. The franchise tags, you know,
the reason why they work for owners is because it
saves them from potentially investing millions of dollars in a
signing bonus that leave their pocket right away and instead
end up being a base salary that is fully guaranteed
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for that one year deal. That kind of kicks the
can down the road. And there's instances of players who
planned the franchise tag, and they plan on two franchise
tags and maybe they hit free agency, but they end
up being paid by someone else, or maybe doesn't work
out and they're not getting paid quite as much as
you thought.
Speaker 6 (29:16):
They would have a bigger long term deal.
Speaker 8 (29:18):
So the original tag designation was to save quarterbacks from
leaving your team and being able to get the free
agency sooner to be able to up that number. Well,
now it's been applied to so many other players.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
I think the.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
NFLPA would like to see it go away.
Speaker 8 (29:33):
Maybe there's some owners who feel like they'd like to
see a go way too, But I do think it's
been a vehicle that's allowed for owners to save money
at least there's short term. Even though it does kick
the can down the road and some owners have proven
that they've got to pay up, I still think that
they probably wouldn't mind getting rid of it either, just
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to you know, I guess appease the players Union because
I mean, think about how many players you have franchise.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
Tag a year eighteen twenty. I mean, let's say let's
say thirty two.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Let's say you know, you get one franchise designation per
year per player. So let's say all thirty two teams
use it. You're talking about thirty two of like two
thousand players. Do you like, if you're creating policy for
a collective Barney agreement, do you think that they're looking
at they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, we'll go ahead and
get rid of that. We're gonna get that eighteenth game,
by the way, because it's gonna lign on our pockets
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more and by the way, we're gonna put in a
clause where the next time we do do a jump
it goes from eighteen to twenty. So you guys need
to be good good with that as well. If we're gonna,
if we're gonna, you know, get rid of this franchise tag,
because I mean, think about that, like they're negotiating to
behalf of thirty two teams. You're negotiating behalf of like
two thousand players that are currently playing and then thousands
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of players that have previously played, you know. So it's
just it's a hard negotiation to win.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
That goes back to the conversation of pushing the ball
forward because if you think about it, free agency didn't
even this at one point. Think about you. You were
getting drafted to a team and you were stuck on
that team. That's why there were super teams talking about
going back to another part of the conversation earlier on
the Steelers, they were able to build what they built
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and had a dynasty because there was no free agency.
So then you create free agency and a player has
the opportunity to now choose what market they may want
to go to based off of if another team wants
your services and not changed the dynamic of how business
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was done in the National Football League, so they had
to come up with NFL had the owners had to
come up with something that actually kind of protected their
interest at some point where it could say they could say, Okay,
I don't want to pay that much money if I
don't have to, so let's create a you know, a
provision or something that says, let's let you allow you
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to what your value is, and if your value is
greater somewhere else and we don't want to match it,
we get the first right of refusal, then go. But
if we can't. But if we can't match or if
we want to match it, we're going to match it.
And if we need a little bit more time to
do it, let's just say I will take the averages
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of the highest paid and the lowest paid and that's
what it's going to be until we figure it out.
So it's ultimately been a you know, a development business
wise for the owners to be able to see how
much it is they're going to have to pay for
one of these players that ends up building a value
to the team that they're playing for.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
So it's it's it's.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Definitely a constant evolution of how things are being done
business wise by both the institution of the NFL and
as well as the player themselves.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
So we are going to have another edition of in
case you missed to come it up here shortly, but
for all the latest he's any yeah, all.
Speaker 9 (33:01):
Right, thanks Jonas. We got golf going on right now,
the one hundred and fifty second Open Championship at Royal
Troon in the UK. A very crowded leader board at
the moment. You've got a five way tie for the lead.
Alex Norn, Adam Scott, Justin Rose, Chris Kirk and Russell
Hensley all at two under par. They've got a one
shot lead over a group of about eight other players.
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Checked some notables defending champ Brian Harmon from the US
and Roy mclory. They're both even par through five holes.
John Rahm is plus one through seven holes. And it
is not a good first round for Bryson to Shambeau.
He's five over par through six holes. He's got four
bogies and I think a double bogie so far, so
(33:44):
he's not enjoying his time there at Royal Troon so far.
We had some basketball men's US national team playing their
third pre Olympic tune up game and they rollover in
NBA MVP Nicole Jokic and Serbia one O five seventy nine.
US win. Steph Curry twenty four points of lead the way.
He had six three pointers. The US will open up
Olympic play against Serbia in Paris. On July the twenty
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eighth NBA Summer League Lakers beat the Hawks eighty seventy six.
Brownie James his best game so far in the Summer
League twelve points, five of eleven from the field. He
had a couple of three pointers. He was zero for
fifteen buying the three point line. Coming into the game,
he had went two for five in this one w WNBA.
The Fever lose to the Wings one oh one ninety three,
but in the lost Indiana's Caitlin Clark twenty four points
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in an NBA record nineteen assists.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
What about the other teams, Eddie, I don't know exactly.
Speaker 9 (34:34):
I don't know. They didn't tell me. I had to
give those scores. That's great and now back to Brady
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Speaker 5 (34:44):
Well, I'll tell you that Indiana fever for I'll tell
you what. You gotta make sure we keep bump on
what their scores and what they're ranking is.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Damn, hold on.
Speaker 6 (34:53):
Hold on, you guys asked what I was doing. I
watched last night. I watched the end of that game.
I'll say this much.
Speaker 8 (34:58):
Man, she had a turnover there kind of towards the end.
But she she needs help. I mean, she had nineteen assists,
so goes someone was scoring besides her, but she dropped
a dime towards the end and it got taken. It's
got stolen to think from, like their forward I'm not
even sure who was. But that girl needs some help.
Like she's just she's the only she's the only thing
out there consistently balling. It's it's tough to watch sometimes.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
Man.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Well, you know, she might be the face of the
entire sport, but if you believe some of this and
some of these details that are coming out, she might
also be the face of an entire other sport.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Literally, we'll get to that next year.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
On FSR.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
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Speaker 4 (36:23):
Sometimes you can't get to everything in the world of
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Speaker 1 (36:33):
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Speaker 10 (36:37):
Good morning everybody, guys. In case you missed it, Caitlin
Clark is going to be playing in the double NBA
All Star Hey, either are gonna be playing in the
w NBA All Star Game on Saturday, July twentieth, this
Saturday in Phoenix. But she's also going to be competing
the next day on the hood of the number four
Josh Barry Stuart Hoss racing car in the brickyard four
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hundred and then.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Which performing she's gonna be, Man, she's gonna be what
you mean, she's gonna be just for dollars? What's gonna be?
Raining threes?
Speaker 10 (37:07):
Man, they're gonna be displaying the Panini raining threes insert.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
Gonna be making it rain on the hood of a
car at the yard?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Is it on the hood or in the hood on
the hood?
Speaker 3 (37:17):
What you mean?
Speaker 5 (37:19):
I just I just can dang Jonas Damn you walk
me right into that one.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
I mean you never know these days make it rain.
She's making it rain before?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, raining threes?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Man, do you think Angel Reese is gonna handle.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
She's gonna be sitting there like, why ain't get the.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Do you see what I was wearing the other night?
Speaker 6 (37:46):
Heye?
Speaker 8 (37:48):
Your thoughts stuff where you're getting recognized for everything, But basket.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
Your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Very interesting. What was the score of their game the
other night?
Speaker 5 (38:01):
Hey, I can we get an update on what Chicago
score was?
Speaker 1 (38:09):
LeVar Roade on the text LeVar Rode on the text.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Out and then yeah, okay.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
All right, guys, Hey, I got one for you.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I gotta put it here.
Speaker 10 (38:23):
Treell Owen says he was disrespected by Tom Brady was
on the Bubba Dubb Show.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Take a listen or me, bro.
Speaker 11 (38:29):
Hu maybe in his last year in Temple Bay, the
year that Ab went went crazy.
Speaker 6 (38:34):
On Okay when from the Jets.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah right, And I know, and I think everybody knew.
Speaker 11 (38:39):
I think about a year and a half two ago,
and I was talking about coming back.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
And so at that point time, it was at the end.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
Of the season.
Speaker 6 (38:45):
I didn't need to play a full season.
Speaker 11 (38:47):
I just they just needed somebody to at least fulfill
some holes with AB leaving at the receiver position. I
reached out to him through Randy and a couple other people,
just to come in and just play third down, third down,
the red zone situation.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
You know, this dude really ignored me.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
Broke just shows you how like the lack of respect did.
Speaker 11 (39:08):
But then when they get in front of you, they
want to act like they respect you.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Wow, got burned.
Speaker 8 (39:16):
I guess he should have responded, But this was in
the middle of the season he was dealing with.
Speaker 6 (39:21):
I mean, he didn't Tony Brown live with him when
he was there.
Speaker 8 (39:24):
Yeah, then there's like those elements to it.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
Like I mean, he's trying to figure out a way
he's going to pay the you know, pick up the
other portion of that rent ab was paying, so he
had bigger things to worry about.
Speaker 8 (39:34):
Dang.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
Yeah, I'm not sure about all that. I'm just saying
like we never talked.
Speaker 8 (39:39):
We never talked about that aspect of things, Like an
Tony Brown left the field that day, did he show
back up.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
At like Tom's place in Tampa.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
I'm here to gather the rest of my things, Like
how that go?
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I want to hear that story.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
Here's you with Tom drinking the coffee with a robe on.
Up out of here.
Speaker 6 (40:01):
Yeah, Antonio Brown walks in with two hicks.
Speaker 5 (40:03):
He's like, Hey, damn, hey, get up out of here,
get on that hood.
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