July 23, 2024 • 37 mins
Aaron Rodgers calls out “arbitrary” minicamp dates. The guys look forward to the documentary on the murder of Steve McNair. Chris Jones eyes a 3-peat but who is most likely to stop the Chiefs this season? Plus, another edition of “Would You Rather…?”
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Wait wait, you said another.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Listen, the guy's a multi time violator. What do you
want from me?
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Come on, Q how many times is that? Now?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
By the way, you can go screw yourself. That is
not my team.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That is your team player, that's your team. Yeah, I
mean you can tell about your intro song.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That same song was playing in that video.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Walking around with the turnstile, unders dressed.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
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Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, that's I don't get that. What are you?
What are you wasting yourself like that for?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Maybe they're not If you ain't gonna use that, can
I can?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I can?
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I have it? Trying to get laughed out of the room.
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Speaker 2 (03:18):
So.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
One thing this show has done better than anybody is
monitor the developments of the Aaron Rodgers Wayabouts when he
missed two practices in the offseason. And you're probably thinking,
why you guys so hung up on this? Why are
you guys so obsessed with the story? Well, because you
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really don't care about the w NBA. That's why.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, I mean we're being honest.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean it might hurt your feelings or offend some
of you, but if we're really being honest, Aaron Rodgers
Whereabouts were much more interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You know, he's uh, you know, he's riding on the
back of a camel, uh, you know, smoking a bong
and or whatever he's doing, and you know, everybody's out
there upset about the fact that he's Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
The fact that he's, uh that, hey, rod is that you.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
So Aaron Rodgers has finally spoken a little bit more
about it.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
There was this report that came out that he was
upset that Robert Salah used the term unexcused. You know
that that was sort of the issue he had. But
Rogers was recently on with Pardon My Take, and he
explained just sort of his view on the whole situation.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
The thing that I think people don't understand is that
when when I was in the NFC North and playing
for that team years ago, there used to be a
real thing called mini camp where it was.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You had one of them.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Usually sometimes it's right up for the draft, but either way,
it was five practices and three days Friday, Sady, Sunday.
So two practices on Friday, two on Saturday, one on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And now it's not mini camp.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
They can arbitrarily put a tag on whatever week of
OTA's they want. Yeah, it is the mini camp week,
which makes it somehow more mandatory than the other weeks.
But it was an OTA schedule. That's how it's you know,
how words can be a little deceiving from time to time.
You can make a story of the fact that I
missed a mini camp when it was really two Ota days, right,
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interest I came to the first ten.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I mean well, I.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, doesn't a rod
play on words like I am immunized versus I have
gotten my shots and then that been, you know, clear
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to play? I mean, he would know best about the
missing you know, the terminology, true terminology of words and
stuff like that. Listen, I don't I think it matters
what people fail to understand about where many camps are
versus OTA's Jonas. I think in this scenario, what makes
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it interesting and the reason why he's trying to justify
it is for the simple fact that he was missing
during practices that the organization wanted all their players they're participating.
And again, when you have these practices, the most important
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part of the practice is the quarterback getting his timing
and his reps in with the offensive coordinator and with
the players around him, his offensive line, his receivers, timing
on that communication lingo of the offense, all those things.
Oh well, he knows all those things. He has all
that set up. Well, what about everybody else? That's the
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thing where it's like Aaron Rodgers is in a great place.
He's a veteran, he knows how to prepare an offseason.
He's one of those guys that's one of the greatest
ever do it. That's fine, but what about everybody else?
This is not If Patrick Mahomes went to Egypt on
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a trip and missed two days a mandatory mini camp
whatever he wants to call him, OTA's whatever he wants
to call him. If he missed those days. Do you
think that it would have been a big deal to
the media that Patrick Mahomes missed two days.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Not as big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It would not even be close.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, And you know why.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You want to know why because an explanation would have
came from Andy Reid that put the whole thing to bed.
And if by chance, let's just say there's some sensibility
here where you know what Patrick Mahomes, just imagine this, guys,
Patrick Mahomes actually says, I'm going to Egypt. It's planned
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for this day. I'll miss too many camp days to
two mandatory days, whatever it may be, but I'm going
to be in Egypt. At this point in time, just
seems like it's kind of like a rod If you
didn't want people to trip out about it, just tell
us ahead of time. Just tell us ahead of time. Hey,
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Robert Salah, if you know that Aaron Rodgers is going
to miss two mandatory camps, that you're going to say
after the fact, by the way that they were unexcused.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Just say it ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
What is the problem with putting it out there ahead
of time before you get there?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's like, don't tell me I have this short runway
after I'm putting the wheels on the ground of the
runway to land. What do you mean I'm a run
out of runway? Could you have told me that while
I was in the air. Maybe I'm gonna go to
a different airstrip, Maybe I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Handle this situation differently.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What are you telling me now that the wheels are
on the ground, the story touched down, and you're trying
to maneuver out of the way of the story once
it hit It just doesn't make sense. So, while you're
trying to sound like an intellectual, and which you are,
I'm not taking anything away from your intelligence and neither
from Zercees either.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
All I'm saying is why not have.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Handled it in a way where it did not turn
into a dramatic situation.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So here's my theory on the Rogers situation. I still
think there is a large portion of the media. I
still think there's a large portion of the public who
still has not let people could try and say, oh,
this has got nothing to do with it. Well, it's
residuals like there's still stuff left over from the immunized
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conversation and his use of that instead of well he
wasn't forthright with us, so it's like, okay, well, I'm
sorry you didn't catch it when he said it, and
he kind of beat you to your own game. That's
where I think a lot of this started. And then
when it came back to the well does he want
a play or does he not want to play? And
you know, was he being recklessly They're just there were
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seeds planted that have just grown, and Rogers hasn't really
tried to cooperate. Instead, he's looked at it and gone
all right, screw the media. I don't like the fact
that they're as intrusive as they are. So here's what
I'm gonna do. If they're going to find something out.
They'll find it out, but they're not going to find
it out for me. They're going to find it out
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on my terms. It could be, but I think that's
what part of this is. I think he is. He's
just distancing himself from letting anybody know too much about him,
knowing they're going to find out eventually. That's what he
plays the mystery game.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That is the point that if it weren't, if it
weren't stories that turned into the way they turn into them.
Which a boy, the way, did you catch the shady
threw at Green Bay? By the way, did you catch that?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Oh? The other team in the NFC North did you
caught that? Okay? So I don't know if that was
Shade or if he's saying that because Big Cat, who's
on the podcast as a Bears fan. So I don't
know if he if that had anything to do it.
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I mean, you could have said the name of the team.
He could have said the name of the team.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I mean, dude, those were some really really impactful years
for you, my guy.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, you could have said your team anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I thought it was Shade, But again, you're Aaron Rodgers,
you're always in the media. Clearly you've made a point
to make your appearances in the media and do things
on your own.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Time, your own way. Great, no problem there.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Again, as it applies to your team, like can we
drive that point home, Like maybe you're okay with handling
the media because of what they've done to you, or
maybe the media wants to stick it to you or
whatever it may be, and there's this personal thing between
you and the media where you want them to find
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out on your own terms. And this that jonas it's
it's considered to be the ultimate team sport for once.
If that is indeed the way that he is approaching
this and the way he's thinking about it. I used
this word earlier in the show. Just like Sirianni needs
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to exercise a little humility with Jalen Hurts, Aaron Rodgers
needs to exercise a little humility and understanding the impact.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That this can have on his team. On his team,
it's not so much.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
How you feel about it because of the way you're
handling it and the way you want to do things
with the media. It's about how it may impact your team.
How many questions in that locker room. Did those players
get about Aaron Rodgers during that many camp and how
much confusion could that possibly create? As that storyline continues
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to be a part a major part of this season.
Not the fact that he missed, but the fact that
he's Aaron Rodgers in the way that he handles things
with the media. That's what he needs to be thinking about.
And while you're telling people what they may be misunderstanding
or missing in the explanations that he's giving, maybe you're
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missing the explanation that I'm giving right now that you
actually need to think about your actions as it applies
to what you're doing and how it impacts your team.
Is what's most important? Is what should be most important.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
He likes to keep it vague, you know, likes to
keep everybody guessing. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right, there you go, Light it up, smoke it up,
you know what I mean, Roll it up in hell, Lex.
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Hal uh it is two pros.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Think it too seriously, don't take you too personally. It's
all good.
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I want to say this because I know Lee were
possibly gonna have this in Are You In and You Out?
But I can't resist. They're coming out with a Steve
McNair documentary that's going to dive into the murder on
Netflix next month. Oh no, I'm letting you know this
right now in First Night that comes out in in
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In because I don't buy that story for a single
second that they're trying to spin.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They're trying to spin in this documentary.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well, they just they tried to make it seem like
it was, you know, murder suicide, and that the way
she did it was so that she would pass away
while lying on his lap right after she blew him
away at point blank range. And then you know, they
found her on the floor, and then somebody showed up
to the house but then didn't report the crime scene
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for like a couple of hours. Like, the whole thing
doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think somebody, somebody got away with it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I just think that, you know, there's a there's just
some things there. I got some issues with it. Oh,
I got some issues with it. I just I don't
whatever the story is that they tried to give to us,
which was jilted lover. Didn't like the fact that, you know,
she wasn't the only one. She was young, she was
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in love. She felt like her life was unraveling. She
had just gotten popped for a duy recently, she felt
like it was all coming undone. What is she going
to do? She goes out, buys a gun from my
thinking ex boyfriend, then shows up to his place on
like fourth of July or whatever the night was the
night before fourth of July, walks in. He's passed out
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on a couch. She she does what she does, you know,
and then sits next to him and then kills herself,
but then does it so that she can go away
while on his lap, so they'll always be together.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
All right, No, tell me your version of the story.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I don't I don't know that I necessarily I haven't
come up with you.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You don't buy that version, But I'm saying, if you
don't buy that, what is your what is your theory
in terms of what makes you like what makes sense
to you?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Was it her lover? Was it? Was it McNair's lover
that like? Was it mitten Naire? Like? What? Like?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Give me some context of how do you not have
any type of thought as to what it could possibly
be it was? You know that it's not what you
think it is that they're saying.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
It wasn't him because when they did the autopsy, he
was passed out, like he had gone out drinking. And
you know, if you believe some of the stuff that's
out there, you know, he liked to get after it
a little bit, and so he went out drinking and
he was passed out on his couch. Mean, you know,
pretty liquored up at that point. And then she walked
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in because she had a key to the place, and
then that's when everything took place. Like so I don't
think it was him, I.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Think, but you're trying to say she walked in with
more than one person and that person took both of
their lives.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
That that would be where I would go like that
would be. But again I got to like kind of
finalize all the details on it. But whatever the story
is that they gave us, I just don't. I just
don't think that that's what happened, you know, that's my
that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I mean because in these types of situations, generally, you
don't know much about the other person. You only know
about the celebrity, you know what I mean, Like what
did she have going on? How many dudes did she
deal with? Because you know they have the saying like
to you, she's wifey material to me, you know what
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I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
What do you mean? I'm not I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
What do you do you I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But that's that I mean, like rappers say it out
a lot, you know, it's not like that's like, you know,
it's just not a wife.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
By the way, did that happen the Steve Encnaer thing?
Did that happen in twenty ten?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's been a while. I remember where I was at
when it happened.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
It's been a long two thousand and nine that happened. Wow,
I like I still remember where I was when that happened.
We were too, We were at it was Fourth of
July weekend, so I was with some buddies. We were
at like a lake trip in Laughlin, and I remember
sitting at a restaurant in Laughlin and the news came
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on and it was on the TV, and it was
like I was sort of the old like going, wait
a second, what and then you start to see the
deal like it shook everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, it did. I was driving in Cherry Hill, New
Jersey when that happened.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'll never forget thirty six years old when that happened.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, it's crazy like that. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, So that's just.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's that's going to be an interesting one. I'll probably
I'll watch it. And I knew Steve, you know, I
played I was in the Pro Bowls with him. I
knew him and like not know him, know him, but
I knew him, like you know, we we were we
were friendly with one another and greeted each other and
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I played against him. And that's just man, that was
one that was like a shocker, man, Yeah, like you know,
and you just hate to see somebody go out that way.
But it's interesting you think that there's a conspiracy to it.
When I heard it, it was just kind of like,
I mean, the first thing I thought is is that
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if I'm being real, if you're in a relationship, like
you got to be like brutally honest in a situation
like that, Like you can't you can't lead somebody on
that way. You know, you gotta be brutally honest, and
they gotta be willing to accept what the sitney is
that that you've presented to them.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
So he met her at a daven Busters while he
was there with his family. He went in with his
wife and his kids, and she she was their waitress.
That's a so she knew what the deal was. But
I think that she had started listen mmm, and I
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think that's where.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
See, my whole thing is is a lot of times
you hear of guys talking about how they're in a
turbulent marriage, they're not staying in the marriage, and and
that's the you know, that's kind of like the carrot
that that's being fed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Because this happened at his other residents he had. He
had an apartment in Nashville, so this wasn't even at
his So that was the perception that that, Okay, well
they're separating because that's why he lives.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
To me, that's where dudes that be on that on
that that's where they go horribly wrong. That's just that's
just my opinion through the years of understanding being around
that that type of lifestyle, that's you just you know,
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I don't know, man, It's it's a complicated one. But
if you're being like, if you're you're addressing it, and
you're addressing it from a I guess understanding it being
a part of that life and being in that world,
you can't that's a slippery slope and you can't play
no games with with with things like that.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That what I would offer that had to freak out
a lot of people in sports like that that either.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm sure there was a lot of phone calls that
took place after that.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'll say that calls went, h.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Are we good, Like that's just like what you're thinking,
or yeah, we probably need to like you know, slow
down or ended here or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was. I bet you there was a lot of
come to Jesus moments.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, And I just remember thinking at the time, like, man,
he's got kids, his you know, his wife, like for
all of them to kind of find this out after
that that way, Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Which you you would assume that the kids found out.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, yeah, she probably already knew.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, so it's you know, rough, rough situation. But yeah,
that that's coming out in August.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's that's that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be uh we'll see how that how
that plays out and what sort of comes of that.
Uh courtesy and that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But you don't buy the story before it even hits No, I.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Don't like whatever the they're whatever they're going with right
now as to what happened. Just don't buy it. I
don't buy that a twenty year old is strong enough
to hold a gun with one hand, like apparently, I
think it was like a legit gun, strong enough to
with one hand do that while prop herself up commit
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the crime and then and do it so that she
falls in his lap, so that they'll forever be together eternally.
And that's the way it ends up. And then they
find her laying on the floor.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
How did she leave a note? How how is that
the conclusion that they came up with.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I mean, it's obviously she wasn't there to tell them
that this is why I did it this way.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And then and then there's the other thing, like you know,
somebody showed up saw it and didn't report it for
like two hours.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like and are they going to detail who the someone is?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I think it was a buddy of his. I think
it was it was somebody who also had keys to
the apartment or like or showed up to the apartment
and the door was unlocked, like the whole.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Thing, like this is a horrible case of letting too
many people have access to your apartment.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, Like I just like it's that's actually one of
the ones. Every time I see him, I forget to
ask him. But Clay Travis obviously lives in Nashville, and
I know he's talked about it before, and I always
forget to ask him what his take is on it
because I don't think that he buys a lot of
this story. They came out either.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, but Clay has always been a conspiracy theorist. Though.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Like Clay, I do too.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I mean, hell, we have his timeslot. Damn no, not
because we took it that he laughed.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Know how we could communicate with.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Clay probably with some radios of.
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Speaker 4 (27:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, it is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Do you want
to hear Chris Jones talking about chasing history?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Absolutely, It's very similar to that video you sent me
a little while ago. Whoa, but here's Chris.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Did have a moment like that, didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
He very It's a good comp there.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
So here was Chris Jones talking about the opportunity to
chase the three peat in Kansas City.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
I think chasing history is all part of it.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Man.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
You know, when a lot of players retire, they always
say they want to lead a game better than when
they started.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And if we can get this three.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Peat and just continue to adding to the legacy of
the Kansas City Chiefs, I think it'd be a huge accomplishment,
not only for us, but for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
All right, So here's my thought. I'm not trying to
be negative about this whole thing, all right, because I
do think it's awesome that they're all coming back and
they want to chase history and it's going to be
fun to follow along with it. But there's a reason
why nobody's ever done it, Like nobody's ever done three
in a row. Like, there's a reason why that's the case.
So if not them, most likely candidate to do it
(28:23):
would be who if you had to pick right now,
if not Kansas City, most likely candidate to do it,
there is none. So you think they're going to go
three pte.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
So you're saying who's most likely to win the Super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Like if not them, like, who's going.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
To get I thought you're saying who's most likely to
do it? Three?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
No, no, no, no, yeah, no, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So you're asking me who's most likely to win the Super.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
People if you had to say it right now, like
if you had to just call it, you know, if
the three pet is impossible, and we know that going
into the season, and we know that it's not going
to be Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I want to say Baltimore, but they always let me down.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They always let me down. Now I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I would say going into last year, I thought it
was going to be Philadelphia. Philadelphia has the roster to
do it. The Detroit Lions. I know, it sounds crazy.
The Detroit Lions has the roster to do it. Who
(29:34):
else strikes me as a team?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
San Francisco has the roster to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Now what happens, I don't know, because again, I think
when we look at Kansas City, they have the easiest
path in my estimation, to getting back to a super Bowl.
I really do. I think that. Maybe maybe some may
(30:04):
disagree with me, but I just think that Kansas City
was able to stay relevant for long enough to make
it to the playoffs last year because they didn't have
a great year last year.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That was considered to be a vulnerable down year.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That was a year for someone in the AFC, the Ravens,
to possibly the Bills, to possibly you know you, surf
them and do what they needed to do, Like it
was the.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
First time they Patrick Mahomes had gone on the road
in a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And they didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, So I felt like last year was the year
to do that. Versus versus this year. I think this year,
I think this year it's going to be tough to
beat them. It's gonna be tough. It's going to be
(30:58):
tough to beat them. So but if I'm looking at
a team that could possibly do it, while I feel
like there's so many questions surrounding the Buffalo Bills, the
Buffalo Bills is a team that could do it. There's
so many questions surrounding Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins is a
team that can do it. And just talking to AFC,
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there's probably several teams in the AFC North that could
possibly do it.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Cincinnati, that's my dark horse.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
There's possibly three teams in that in that one alone
that could possibly do it. So, I mean, I think
the point is is that I don't think we have
to marry ourselves to a one team that could possibly
do it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They could possibly not even make.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It out of the AFC side of the bracket, yeah,
and even play for it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, I would think that they're more likely to get tripped.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Up in the af the AFC than in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Like, I don't know that there's an NFC team that
I look at and go, oh, for sure, but man,
who knows. Maybe, But look at Houston. Houston's loaded. Like
if CJ. Stroud takes another step. Cincinnati, Joe Burrow has
had his number, Like Joe Burrow has had the most
success against Patrick Mahomes other than Tom Brady as a
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quarterback goes. So Cincinnati has always played them well. Like
maybe Baltimore does come back, and you've got Derrick Henry
in the backfield. As we've laid out before, Like, I
think the dangerous part for Kansas City is in the AFC. Like,
I'll take my chances against them and against anybody in
the NFC, but getting out of the AFC is going
to be a pretty daunting task.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I mean, you got Sam, like I said, Sam Fran, Detroit, Philly.
I think those are the teams that are the only
ones that you would say, of note and listen, Wow,
Detroit is one of those teams. I don't think anyone
trust the fact that Detroit can do it until they
(33:00):
do it. Yeah, right, Like that's just what they've earned.
Green Bay could be a dark horse. We don't know
what Philly's going to be. We have no idea what
Philly's going to be. And San Fran is the only
one that you could say would stand above all the
rest within the NFC, because the rest of them is
like all question marks. Do you have confidence in Chicago?
(33:22):
Hell no, Minnesota, hell no, Seattle hell no. There's a
whole lot of hell No. It is Atlanta Nope, Nope,
New York Nope, Los Angeles intriguing, rams are intriguing, Washington,
New Cardinals, No, New Orleans, New Tampa Bay intriguing, Carolina,
Hell to the No, Dallas intriguing, but probably a no.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
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Let's make hiss to you, and now would you would
you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise? All right,
lead to lab. What do we got, guys?
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Would you rather know the truth behind Steve McNair's death
or another famous figure in history?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Which one we.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Can go JFK, we could go Epstein, I would say JFK.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I mean, that's a hard one. Why JFK.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I don't know. I was just always fascinated by that
whole story. That's how that all went down.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The movie, I mean, but do you remember it real time? Well?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
No, I wasn't alive when it happened. That's what I'm saying,
but like I just, uh.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I would love to know the true story behind Jesus,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Like, but I'm I wasn't around for that.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like I would rather want to know a real story
of what happened behind the scenes, something that I lived
like I lived it.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Maybe, but maybe it's not. Maybe it's better not to
know because it kind of keeps the story going, you
know what I mean. Like that way, it's like it's
like a mystery just keeps on. You can always go
back to it, you know. It just kind of, hey,
what's happening here? Who's got a new theory on it?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
It's like when you know, when a team finally wins
a championship after they have this giant championship drought, there's
kind of like a, oh, well, that was a story
we all had to hold on to it. Now it's gone.
So I just wonder if that's the Uh, maybe it's
better we don't know these answers. What else I don't know.
Let's get out of there, fellas.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
Would you rather have a tattoo of your choice on
your face or discreet tattoo chosen by someone else where
they could put it anywhere else on your body.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Oh geez, say that again.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Tattoo of your choice on your face, or discreet tattoos
somewhere else chosen by someone else's tattoo of my choice
on my face.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Sh Yeah, I'd rather have my.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Choice because I can grow a beard out, you know,
all covered up. But I don't trust like a guy
like Brady or LeVar. If you give them, hey, you
can pick Jonas' next tattoo. I know this for a fact.
It would be on my lower back and they and
(37:19):
they would do something really really offensive.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You know exactly what it would be, yes, dah, what else?
We look like a cannon with wheels, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Shooting?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
No, that's unfortunate. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Let's get this.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Pun, you're listening to Fox Sports.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
Radio, said Joe Paul Rappin.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
No, no, oh, my go you get it for your Texas.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
That was crazy, bro. It was a super like it
was a vivid dream man. He was there like it
was almost like that. I don't know, it was like
really happening.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
By the way, there's one person on the face of
the planet who had a dreaming about Joe Paterno last night,
and that's yo, ass tang.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
I doubt that. I don't know who else out there did.
I don't know who else out there. He's he's visiting,
but he visited last night.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
My guy. It out to Joe Paul Man mission.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
My guy, it is two Pros and a cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington Jonas Knox with
you know, Brady Quinn another PD suspension when that happens.
But rules are rules here and that's the way it goes.
It'll be sticks and I taking you all the happ
until night.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Wait wait, you said another.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Listen, the guy's a multi time violator. What do you
want from me?
Speaker 2 (01:44):
I mean, tang?
Speaker 1 (01:45):
How many times ye get the valley?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Hey man? How many times you get a piss hot tang?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Come on, Q how many times is that? Now?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
By the way, you can go screw yourself. That is
not my team.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
That is your team player, that's your team. Yeah, I
mean you can tell about your intro song.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
That same song was playing in that video.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Walking around with the turnstile, unders dressed.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yikes, yeah, and legitimately sized by the way.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean, that's I don't get that. What are you?
What are you wasting yourself like that for?
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Maybe they're not If you ain't gonna use that, can
I can?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I can?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I have it? Trying to get laughed out of the room.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Oh look look who it is.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Oh dang well, respect respect, like oh god, you're more
of a man than I ever was.
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Speaker 2 (03:18):
So.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
One thing this show has done better than anybody is
monitor the developments of the Aaron Rodgers Wayabouts when he
missed two practices in the offseason. And you're probably thinking,
why you guys so hung up on this? Why are
you guys so obsessed with the story? Well, because you
(03:39):
really don't care about the w NBA. That's why.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
All right, I mean we're being honest.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean it might hurt your feelings or offend some
of you, but if we're really being honest, Aaron Rodgers
Whereabouts were much more interesting.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You know, he's uh, you know, he's riding on the
back of a camel, uh, you know, smoking a bong
and or whatever he's doing, and you know, everybody's out
there upset about the fact that he's Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
The fact that he's, uh that, hey, rod is that you.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
So Aaron Rodgers has finally spoken a little bit more
about it.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Now.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
There was this report that came out that he was
upset that Robert Salah used the term unexcused. You know
that that was sort of the issue he had. But
Rogers was recently on with Pardon My Take, and he
explained just sort of his view on the whole situation.
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
The thing that I think people don't understand is that
when when I was in the NFC North and playing
for that team years ago, there used to be a
real thing called mini camp where it was.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
You had one of them.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Usually sometimes it's right up for the draft, but either way,
it was five practices and three days Friday, Sady, Sunday.
So two practices on Friday, two on Saturday, one on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
And now it's not mini camp.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
They can arbitrarily put a tag on whatever week of
OTA's they want. Yeah, it is the mini camp week,
which makes it somehow more mandatory than the other weeks.
But it was an OTA schedule. That's how it's you know,
how words can be a little deceiving from time to time.
You can make a story of the fact that I
missed a mini camp when it was really two Ota days, right,
(05:24):
interest I came to the first ten.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
I mean well, I.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, doesn't a rod
play on words like I am immunized versus I have
gotten my shots and then that been, you know, clear
(05:48):
to play? I mean, he would know best about the
missing you know, the terminology, true terminology of words and
stuff like that. Listen, I don't I think it matters
what people fail to understand about where many camps are
versus OTA's Jonas. I think in this scenario, what makes
(06:12):
it interesting and the reason why he's trying to justify
it is for the simple fact that he was missing
during practices that the organization wanted all their players they're participating.
And again, when you have these practices, the most important
(06:36):
part of the practice is the quarterback getting his timing
and his reps in with the offensive coordinator and with
the players around him, his offensive line, his receivers, timing
on that communication lingo of the offense, all those things.
Oh well, he knows all those things. He has all
that set up. Well, what about everybody else? That's the
(07:00):
thing where it's like Aaron Rodgers is in a great place.
He's a veteran, he knows how to prepare an offseason.
He's one of those guys that's one of the greatest
ever do it. That's fine, but what about everybody else?
This is not If Patrick Mahomes went to Egypt on
(07:24):
a trip and missed two days a mandatory mini camp
whatever he wants to call him, OTA's whatever he wants
to call him. If he missed those days. Do you
think that it would have been a big deal to
the media that Patrick Mahomes missed two days.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Not as big of a deal.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
It would not even be close.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, And you know why.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
You want to know why because an explanation would have
came from Andy Reid that put the whole thing to bed.
And if by chance, let's just say there's some sensibility
here where you know what Patrick Mahomes, just imagine this, guys,
Patrick Mahomes actually says, I'm going to Egypt. It's planned
(08:13):
for this day. I'll miss too many camp days to
two mandatory days, whatever it may be, but I'm going
to be in Egypt. At this point in time, just
seems like it's kind of like a rod If you
didn't want people to trip out about it, just tell
us ahead of time. Just tell us ahead of time. Hey,
(08:35):
Robert Salah, if you know that Aaron Rodgers is going
to miss two mandatory camps, that you're going to say
after the fact, by the way that they were unexcused.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Just say it ahead of time.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
What is the problem with putting it out there ahead
of time before you get there?
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's like, don't tell me I have this short runway
after I'm putting the wheels on the ground of the
runway to land. What do you mean I'm a run
out of runway? Could you have told me that while
I was in the air. Maybe I'm gonna go to
a different airstrip, Maybe I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Handle this situation differently.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
What are you telling me now that the wheels are
on the ground, the story touched down, and you're trying
to maneuver out of the way of the story once
it hit It just doesn't make sense. So, while you're
trying to sound like an intellectual, and which you are,
I'm not taking anything away from your intelligence and neither
from Zercees either.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
All I'm saying is why not have.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
Handled it in a way where it did not turn
into a dramatic situation.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So here's my theory on the Rogers situation. I still
think there is a large portion of the media. I
still think there's a large portion of the public who
still has not let people could try and say, oh,
this has got nothing to do with it. Well, it's
residuals like there's still stuff left over from the immunized
(10:06):
conversation and his use of that instead of well he
wasn't forthright with us, so it's like, okay, well, I'm
sorry you didn't catch it when he said it, and
he kind of beat you to your own game. That's
where I think a lot of this started. And then
when it came back to the well does he want
a play or does he not want to play? And
you know, was he being recklessly They're just there were
(10:28):
seeds planted that have just grown, and Rogers hasn't really
tried to cooperate. Instead, he's looked at it and gone
all right, screw the media. I don't like the fact
that they're as intrusive as they are. So here's what
I'm gonna do. If they're going to find something out.
They'll find it out, but they're not going to find
it out for me. They're going to find it out
(10:48):
on my terms. It could be, but I think that's
what part of this is. I think he is. He's
just distancing himself from letting anybody know too much about him,
knowing they're going to find out eventually. That's what he
plays the mystery game.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
That is the point that if it weren't, if it
weren't stories that turned into the way they turn into them.
Which a boy, the way, did you catch the shady
threw at Green Bay? By the way, did you catch that?
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Oh? The other team in the NFC North did you
caught that? Okay? So I don't know if that was
Shade or if he's saying that because Big Cat, who's
on the podcast as a Bears fan. So I don't
know if he if that had anything to do it.
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I mean, you could have said the name of the team.
He could have said the name of the team.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
I mean, dude, those were some really really impactful years
for you, my guy.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I mean, you could have said your team anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
I thought it was Shade, But again, you're Aaron Rodgers,
you're always in the media. Clearly you've made a point
to make your appearances in the media and do things
on your own.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Time, your own way. Great, no problem there.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Again, as it applies to your team, like can we
drive that point home, Like maybe you're okay with handling
the media because of what they've done to you, or
maybe the media wants to stick it to you or
whatever it may be, and there's this personal thing between
you and the media where you want them to find
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out on your own terms. And this that jonas it's
it's considered to be the ultimate team sport for once.
If that is indeed the way that he is approaching
this and the way he's thinking about it. I used
this word earlier in the show. Just like Sirianni needs
(12:41):
to exercise a little humility with Jalen Hurts, Aaron Rodgers
needs to exercise a little humility and understanding the impact.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That this can have on his team. On his team,
it's not so much.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
How you feel about it because of the way you're
handling it and the way you want to do things
with the media. It's about how it may impact your team.
How many questions in that locker room. Did those players
get about Aaron Rodgers during that many camp and how
much confusion could that possibly create? As that storyline continues
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to be a part a major part of this season.
Not the fact that he missed, but the fact that
he's Aaron Rodgers in the way that he handles things
with the media. That's what he needs to be thinking about.
And while you're telling people what they may be misunderstanding
or missing in the explanations that he's giving, maybe you're
(13:37):
missing the explanation that I'm giving right now that you
actually need to think about your actions as it applies
to what you're doing and how it impacts your team.
Is what's most important? Is what should be most important.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
He likes to keep it vague, you know, likes to
keep everybody guessing. Man.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
All right, there you go, Light it up, smoke it up,
you know what I mean, Roll it up in hell, Lex.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Hal uh it is two pros.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Think it too seriously, don't take you too personally. It's
all good.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
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it because you've been over promising women for years.
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Speaker 4 (15:50):
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(16:10):
I want to say this because I know Lee were
possibly gonna have this in Are You In and You Out?
But I can't resist. They're coming out with a Steve
McNair documentary that's going to dive into the murder on
Netflix next month. Oh no, I'm letting you know this
right now in First Night that comes out in in
(16:32):
In because I don't buy that story for a single
second that they're trying to spin.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
They're trying to spin in this documentary.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well, they just they tried to make it seem like
it was, you know, murder suicide, and that the way
she did it was so that she would pass away
while lying on his lap right after she blew him
away at point blank range. And then you know, they
found her on the floor, and then somebody showed up
to the house but then didn't report the crime scene
(17:00):
for like a couple of hours. Like, the whole thing
doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
I think somebody, somebody got away with it.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
I just think that, you know, there's a there's just
some things there. I got some issues with it. Oh,
I got some issues with it. I just I don't
whatever the story is that they tried to give to us,
which was jilted lover. Didn't like the fact that, you know,
she wasn't the only one. She was young, she was
(17:30):
in love. She felt like her life was unraveling. She
had just gotten popped for a duy recently, she felt
like it was all coming undone. What is she going
to do? She goes out, buys a gun from my
thinking ex boyfriend, then shows up to his place on
like fourth of July or whatever the night was the
night before fourth of July, walks in. He's passed out
(17:52):
on a couch. She she does what she does, you know,
and then sits next to him and then kills herself,
but then does it so that she can go away
while on his lap, so they'll always be together.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
All right, No, tell me your version of the story.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I don't I don't know that I necessarily I haven't
come up with you.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
You don't buy that version, But I'm saying, if you
don't buy that, what is your what is your theory
in terms of what makes you like what makes sense
to you?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Was it her lover? Was it? Was it McNair's lover
that like? Was it mitten Naire? Like? What? Like?
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Give me some context of how do you not have
any type of thought as to what it could possibly
be it was? You know that it's not what you
think it is that they're saying.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
It wasn't him because when they did the autopsy, he
was passed out, like he had gone out drinking. And
you know, if you believe some of the stuff that's
out there, you know, he liked to get after it
a little bit, and so he went out drinking and
he was passed out on his couch. Mean, you know,
pretty liquored up at that point. And then she walked
(19:04):
in because she had a key to the place, and
then that's when everything took place. Like so I don't
think it was him, I.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Think, but you're trying to say she walked in with
more than one person and that person took both of
their lives.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
That that would be where I would go like that
would be. But again I got to like kind of
finalize all the details on it. But whatever the story
is that they gave us, I just don't. I just
don't think that that's what happened, you know, that's my
that's my opinion.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
I mean because in these types of situations, generally, you
don't know much about the other person. You only know
about the celebrity, you know what I mean, Like what
did she have going on? How many dudes did she
deal with? Because you know they have the saying like
to you, she's wifey material to me, you know what
(19:52):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
It's like, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (19:54):
What do you mean? I'm not I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
What do you do you I mean?
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But that's that I mean, like rappers say it out
a lot, you know, it's not like that's like, you know,
it's just not a wife.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
By the way, did that happen the Steve Encnaer thing?
Did that happen in twenty ten?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
It's been a while. I remember where I was at
when it happened.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
It's been a long two thousand and nine that happened. Wow,
I like I still remember where I was when that happened.
We were too, We were at it was Fourth of
July weekend, so I was with some buddies. We were
at like a lake trip in Laughlin, and I remember
sitting at a restaurant in Laughlin and the news came
(20:36):
on and it was on the TV, and it was
like I was sort of the old like going, wait
a second, what and then you start to see the
deal like it shook everybody.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah, it did. I was driving in Cherry Hill, New
Jersey when that happened.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I'll never forget thirty six years old when that happened.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, it's crazy like that. It's crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, So that's just.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's that's going to be an interesting one. I'll probably
I'll watch it. And I knew Steve, you know, I
played I was in the Pro Bowls with him. I
knew him and like not know him, know him, but
I knew him, like you know, we we were we
were friendly with one another and greeted each other and
(21:18):
I played against him. And that's just man, that was
one that was like a shocker, man, Yeah, like you know,
and you just hate to see somebody go out that way.
But it's interesting you think that there's a conspiracy to it.
When I heard it, it was just kind of like,
I mean, the first thing I thought is is that
(21:41):
if I'm being real, if you're in a relationship, like
you got to be like brutally honest in a situation
like that, Like you can't you can't lead somebody on
that way. You know, you gotta be brutally honest, and
they gotta be willing to accept what the sitney is
that that you've presented to them.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
So he met her at a daven Busters while he
was there with his family. He went in with his
wife and his kids, and she she was their waitress.
That's a so she knew what the deal was. But
I think that she had started listen mmm, and I
(22:25):
think that's where.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
See, my whole thing is is a lot of times
you hear of guys talking about how they're in a
turbulent marriage, they're not staying in the marriage, and and
that's the you know, that's kind of like the carrot
that that's being fed, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
Because this happened at his other residents he had. He
had an apartment in Nashville, so this wasn't even at
his So that was the perception that that, Okay, well
they're separating because that's why he lives.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
To me, that's where dudes that be on that on
that that's where they go horribly wrong. That's just that's
just my opinion through the years of understanding being around
that that type of lifestyle, that's you just you know,
(23:14):
I don't know, man, It's it's a complicated one. But
if you're being like, if you're you're addressing it, and
you're addressing it from a I guess understanding it being
a part of that life and being in that world,
you can't that's a slippery slope and you can't play
no games with with with things like that.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
That what I would offer that had to freak out
a lot of people in sports like that that either.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I'm sure there was a lot of phone calls that
took place after that.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I'll say that calls went, h.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Are we good, Like that's just like what you're thinking,
or yeah, we probably need to like you know, slow
down or ended here or whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
It was. I bet you there was a lot of
come to Jesus moments.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
Yeah, And I just remember thinking at the time, like, man,
he's got kids, his you know, his wife, like for
all of them to kind of find this out after
that that way, Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Which you you would assume that the kids found out.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah, yeah, she probably already knew.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah, so it's you know, rough, rough situation. But yeah,
that that's coming out in August.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
That's that's that's interesting.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, it's gonna be uh we'll see how that how
that plays out and what sort of comes of that.
Uh courtesy and that.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
But you don't buy the story before it even hits No, I.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
Don't like whatever the they're whatever they're going with right
now as to what happened. Just don't buy it. I
don't buy that a twenty year old is strong enough
to hold a gun with one hand, like apparently, I
think it was like a legit gun, strong enough to
with one hand do that while prop herself up commit
(24:58):
the crime and then and do it so that she
falls in his lap, so that they'll forever be together eternally.
And that's the way it ends up. And then they
find her laying on the floor.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
How did she leave a note? How how is that
the conclusion that they came up with.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
I mean, it's obviously she wasn't there to tell them
that this is why I did it this way.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
And then and then there's the other thing, like you know,
somebody showed up saw it and didn't report it for
like two hours.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Like and are they going to detail who the someone is?
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I think it was a buddy of his. I think
it was it was somebody who also had keys to
the apartment or like or showed up to the apartment
and the door was unlocked, like the whole.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Thing, like this is a horrible case of letting too
many people have access to your apartment.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yeah, Like I just like it's that's actually one of
the ones. Every time I see him, I forget to
ask him. But Clay Travis obviously lives in Nashville, and
I know he's talked about it before, and I always
forget to ask him what his take is on it
because I don't think that he buys a lot of
this story. They came out either.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, but Clay has always been a conspiracy theorist. Though.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Like Clay, I do too.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
I mean, hell, we have his timeslot. Damn no, not
because we took it that he laughed.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Yeah, okay, you.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Know how we could communicate with.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Clay probably with some radios of.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
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Yeah.
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Speaker 4 (27:12):
Oh yeah, yeah, it is two pros and a cup
of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Do you want
to hear Chris Jones talking about chasing history?
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Absolutely, It's very similar to that video you sent me
a little while ago. Whoa, but here's Chris.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
Did have a moment like that, didn't.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
He very It's a good comp there.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4 (27:33):
So here was Chris Jones talking about the opportunity to
chase the three peat in Kansas City.
Speaker 8 (27:39):
I think chasing history is all part of it.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Man.
Speaker 8 (27:42):
You know, when a lot of players retire, they always
say they want to lead a game better than when
they started.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
And if we can get this three.
Speaker 8 (27:49):
Peat and just continue to adding to the legacy of
the Kansas City Chiefs, I think it'd be a huge accomplishment,
not only for us, but for the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
All right, So here's my thought. I'm not trying to
be negative about this whole thing, all right, because I
do think it's awesome that they're all coming back and
they want to chase history and it's going to be
fun to follow along with it. But there's a reason
why nobody's ever done it, Like nobody's ever done three
in a row. Like, there's a reason why that's the case.
So if not them, most likely candidate to do it
(28:23):
would be who if you had to pick right now,
if not Kansas City, most likely candidate to do it,
there is none. So you think they're going to go
three pte.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
So you're saying who's most likely to win the Super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Like if not them, like, who's going.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
To get I thought you're saying who's most likely to
do it? Three?
Speaker 5 (28:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (28:43):
No, no, no, no, yeah, no, it's okay.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
So you're asking me who's most likely to win the Super.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
People if you had to say it right now, like
if you had to just call it, you know, if
the three pet is impossible, and we know that going
into the season, and we know that it's not going
to be Kansas City.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
I want to say Baltimore, but they always let me down.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
They always let me down. Now I can't.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I would say going into last year, I thought it
was going to be Philadelphia. Philadelphia has the roster to
do it. The Detroit Lions. I know, it sounds crazy.
The Detroit Lions has the roster to do it. Who
(29:34):
else strikes me as a team?
Speaker 4 (29:35):
San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
San Francisco has the roster to do it.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Now what happens, I don't know, because again, I think
when we look at Kansas City, they have the easiest
path in my estimation, to getting back to a super Bowl.
I really do. I think that. Maybe maybe some may
(30:04):
disagree with me, but I just think that Kansas City
was able to stay relevant for long enough to make
it to the playoffs last year because they didn't have
a great year last year.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
That was considered to be a vulnerable down year.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
That was a year for someone in the AFC, the Ravens,
to possibly the Bills, to possibly you know you, surf
them and do what they needed to do, Like it
was the.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
First time they Patrick Mahomes had gone on the road
in a playoff game.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
And they didn't do it.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, So I felt like last year was the year
to do that. Versus versus this year. I think this year,
I think this year it's going to be tough to
beat them. It's gonna be tough. It's going to be
(30:58):
tough to beat them. So but if I'm looking at
a team that could possibly do it, while I feel
like there's so many questions surrounding the Buffalo Bills, the
Buffalo Bills is a team that could do it. There's
so many questions surrounding Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins is a
team that can do it. And just talking to AFC,
(31:20):
there's probably several teams in the AFC North that could
possibly do it.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Cincinnati, that's my dark horse.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
There's possibly three teams in that in that one alone
that could possibly do it. So, I mean, I think
the point is is that I don't think we have
to marry ourselves to a one team that could possibly
do it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They could possibly not even make.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
It out of the AFC side of the bracket, yeah,
and even play for it.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Well, I would think that they're more likely to get tripped.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Up in the af the AFC than in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
Like, I don't know that there's an NFC team that
I look at and go, oh, for sure, but man,
who knows. Maybe, But look at Houston. Houston's loaded. Like
if CJ. Stroud takes another step. Cincinnati, Joe Burrow has
had his number, Like Joe Burrow has had the most
success against Patrick Mahomes other than Tom Brady as a
(32:17):
quarterback goes. So Cincinnati has always played them well. Like
maybe Baltimore does come back, and you've got Derrick Henry
in the backfield. As we've laid out before, Like, I
think the dangerous part for Kansas City is in the AFC. Like,
I'll take my chances against them and against anybody in
the NFC, but getting out of the AFC is going
to be a pretty daunting task.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
So I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I mean, you got Sam, like I said, Sam Fran, Detroit, Philly.
I think those are the teams that are the only
ones that you would say, of note and listen, Wow,
Detroit is one of those teams. I don't think anyone
trust the fact that Detroit can do it until they
(33:00):
do it. Yeah, right, Like that's just what they've earned.
Green Bay could be a dark horse. We don't know
what Philly's going to be. We have no idea what
Philly's going to be. And San Fran is the only
one that you could say would stand above all the
rest within the NFC, because the rest of them is
like all question marks. Do you have confidence in Chicago?
(33:22):
Hell no, Minnesota, hell no, Seattle hell no. There's a
whole lot of hell No. It is Atlanta Nope, Nope,
New York Nope, Los Angeles intriguing, rams are intriguing, Washington,
New Cardinals, No, New Orleans, New Tampa Bay intriguing, Carolina,
Hell to the No, Dallas intriguing, but probably a no.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, So I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
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Let's make hiss to you, and now would you would
you rather your random topics? Sports or otherwise? All right,
lead to lab. What do we got, guys?
Speaker 9 (35:02):
Would you rather know the truth behind Steve McNair's death
or another famous figure in history?
Speaker 4 (35:10):
Which one we.
Speaker 9 (35:12):
Can go JFK, we could go Epstein, I would say JFK.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
I mean, that's a hard one. Why JFK.
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I don't know. I was just always fascinated by that
whole story. That's how that all went down.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
The movie, I mean, but do you remember it real time? Well?
Speaker 4 (35:34):
No, I wasn't alive when it happened. That's what I'm saying,
but like I just, uh.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I would love to know the true story behind Jesus,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Like, but I'm I wasn't around for that.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Like I would rather want to know a real story
of what happened behind the scenes, something that I lived
like I lived it.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
Maybe, but maybe it's not. Maybe it's better not to
know because it kind of keeps the story going, you
know what I mean. Like that way, it's like it's
like a mystery just keeps on. You can always go
back to it, you know. It just kind of, hey,
what's happening here? Who's got a new theory on it?
Speaker 2 (36:14):
You know.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
It's like when you know, when a team finally wins
a championship after they have this giant championship drought, there's
kind of like a, oh, well, that was a story
we all had to hold on to it. Now it's gone.
So I just wonder if that's the Uh, maybe it's
better we don't know these answers. What else I don't know.
Let's get out of there, fellas.
Speaker 9 (36:35):
Would you rather have a tattoo of your choice on
your face or discreet tattoo chosen by someone else where
they could put it anywhere else on your body.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Oh geez, say that again.
Speaker 9 (36:47):
Tattoo of your choice on your face, or discreet tattoos
somewhere else chosen by someone else's tattoo of my choice
on my face.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Sh Yeah, I'd rather have my.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Choice because I can grow a beard out, you know,
all covered up. But I don't trust like a guy
like Brady or LeVar. If you give them, hey, you
can pick Jonas' next tattoo. I know this for a fact.
It would be on my lower back and they and
(37:19):
they would do something really really offensive.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
You know exactly what it would be, yes, dah, what else?
We look like a cannon with wheels, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Shooting?
Speaker 4 (37:42):
No, that's unfortunate. I'm sorry.
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