July 24, 2024 • 38 mins
The Old P, Petros Papadakis talks Big Ten Media Days. Kyle Shanahan tried for an all-time team up with Bill Belichick. Plus, The BQ News.
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got traditions on this show to keep, and one of
those is the Old Pe Petros Papadakis. He is the
co host of the Petros and Money Show, which you
can hear on the Blowtorch, a five to seventy LA
Sports Fox college football analyst, and you can find him
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on x at the Old Pe Petros. What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Good morning, Good.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Morning to everybody. Hello, Hello to you. Hello, you been
trying to get a hold of you, LeVar, What you mean?
My people have been trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Who Tim Cats, my producer. We are trying to book
you for a show a week from Friday. Come on,
let's do it at the camp Site Brewing Company in Covina, California.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
What day?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Let's do it Friday, a week from Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Three and a half our window for you to arrive.
Think I'm out of town all right, Damn, We're moving on.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Next next Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That would be a week from Friday, a.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Week from this Friday coming. Yeah, I'm gonna be out
of town.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I wish I could get an invite to one of
these PMS remotes.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Shut up. You've been to like five damn.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Yeah, I wish I could have came. I'm being state college.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I figured it's one or the other for you. Yes,
all right, what do you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Hey, I'm here, I'm at your disposal, so we want
to come hang.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
We're talking about Big ten media days and you're seeing
Oregon pull up. You know they've got a giant rubber
ducky on on the lake out there or whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
In Indian Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Well I was around when they did the whole Joey
Harrington billboard, and they did the uh they had all
the receivers on the Figaroa Hotel and they had their
cornerbacks on the four oh five remember that. And they
did the Times Square kidd, Yeah, this isn't new. And
they tried to get bo Nix the Heisman last year.
(03:07):
Remember they had the big bow Nicks billboard. It's Phil
Knight and he wants it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, yeah, but does it like just from a standpoint
of those are all PAC twelve teams. And I know
we've talked about this at length before, but the fact
that it's finally here and you're seeing all of them
kind of incorporated into the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Now they're at Big Ten media.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Days, scattered like the Tower of Babbel, speaking languages that
nobody understands.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Like, have you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Gotten used to that yet? Or is it still seem
a little bit surreal that that's what this is coming.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
No, I don't think anybody's used to it, and I
don't think anybody's going to be used to it until
much later, if ever, if we even have it long
enough to be used to it. I mean, how used
to it? Are you going to get to the ACC
when it's on the dizzy edge of crumbling quite soon?
And then you have the situation with all these teams
(04:02):
in the Big Ten and the arms race between the
SEC and the Big ten, which is Disney and Fox.
I'm not really sure what there is to get used to.
I mean, college football has always been a changing, evolving,
ever hypocritical entity, but this is a whole new era.
(04:23):
And I imagine that once we get down to like
playing football games and throwing and catching the ball and
traveling around the country and putting the stuff on air,
that we'll get a better idea of how interested people.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Are in it.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I would imagine they're very interested despite certain changes here
and there. But I don't know if there's ever going
to be any getting used to it, because it's one
thing to add Utah and Colorado to the Pac twelve
and kind of simmer in it for a few years
before it feels normal. But this is a totally this
is a totally different thing, and I don't think anybody
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knows exactly what it's going to be like other than
the fact that we're going to be playing football.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Like we always do.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
And that's really the only thing that's normal about the
football season is the fact that we're going to play football,
because everything else is totally different.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, and you know, today, Petros, I get the chance
to talk to some of those West Coast teams. We
heard you and I heard Lincoln Riley speak at our
summinar last week. First thing I want to ask is
just your overall thoughts of SC going into the season
and maybe the optimism or is this team maybe in
a better place where you feel like Lincoln Riley would.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Want to have him at this point.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then the other thing is just talking about UCLA.
I kind of I thought that I forgot but when
it happened when Schip Kelly decided to leave UCLA to
be a coordinator. It still blew my mind that it
wasn't like he was going to the NFL. He went
to another another college team, Like I'm just kind of
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curious about like what that maybe says about UCLA maybe
Chip Kelly. And also just how you kind of see
USC heading into the season.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, let's start with USC.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We heard Lincoln Riley talking, and you know, it's very
difficult when any kind of public press conference, even the
Fox seminar, unless somebody's had a couple drinks, you really
just get the platitudes. There's nothing in there that really
makes you feel like you're getting something special, Like when
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you're at the bar and somebody's really telling you what's
going on, or you have a private meeting with somebody.
It's just we're going to do this, we like this,
we like where we're at, blah blah blah, these challenges,
we embrace these challenges.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
But the truth is USC is going to be very different,
just in the fact that they've made a lot of
different hires and their defensive staff and that is something
Lincoln Riley talked about, and I'm interested to see what
that's like.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The other thing you talked about, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Remember Brady was the play calling for Caleb Williams and
how it really didn't suit him as a play caller
because the guy was such a freelancer. And you know
Lincoln Riley and the way he calls plays. I remember
how brilliant he was with Baker Mayfield, you know, moving
him half rolls, stopping throwing back across the field, you know,
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different stuff like that. And they were able to do
it because they had the two beautiful running backs mixing
and p Ryan all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But I just don't know what SC is going to
be like.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I think a successful season's like eight or nine wins.
Beyond that, it'll probably be a situation where Lincoln Riley
finds his way to be a coordinator or something in
the NFL, because this is not the athletic director that
hired him. But it's also a ninety million dollar paycheck
that they paid just to get rid of everybody and
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bring him and his staff in half of which they
fired now after a very disappointing second season. So there's
almost US is like a microcosm of college football in general.
A lot of unknowns, more questions and answers. Right now,
as far as u CELA goes, people talk about chip
Kelly and oh, chip Kelly left, and it says everything
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about modern college football.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And yeah, you can make.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That example if you want to make that an example,
if you want to sit there and talk about how
no one wants to be a head coach anymore because
it sucks, and look at what chip Kelly happened. Yes,
but you really have to understand the situation individually. In
every situation individually, chip Kelly and his athletic director were
not getting along. They did not support each other. You
(08:39):
could say that's on Martin Jarman, you could say it's
on chip Kelly.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Either way.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Their relationship had deteriorated to the point where chip Kelly
didn't want to coach there anymore. He wasn't getting the
recruiting support he felt like he needed. Now that exists
that UCLA. Just look at all the transfers and the
nil that mc cronin just bought in. But UCLA is
an open wallet until it's closed. And I think Martin
(09:06):
Jarmon did some things the ad at UCLA as far
as being ambitious and looking for other jobs. That turned
people off at that university, and they close the wallet
to him and they don't They're not going to help him,
which is why he ended up hiring Deshan Foster instead
of making another big giant swing like they did with
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chip Kelly. They're not going to let him hire another
chip Kelly because he ruined that relationship. So Deshaun's get
a chance, and they brought in the enemy, and that's
also very confusing.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I don't know what that's going to be like. I
hope that they have some success.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
They're going to be motivated, and the players really love DeShawn,
But what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know, what does it look like when you make
the running.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Back coach the head coach, right, and then he hires
another running back to be the courtinator.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They're going to run Q eight on every third and eight.
So I don't know what that's going to be like.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
But that's a situation where I don't think chip Kelly
would have left just any head coaching job. I think
he was eternally disappointed at the support he got at UCLA,
which is a difficult place.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To work.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
You need two signatures just to get a new pencil
sharpener because you work for the state of California and
it's there's a lot of red tape and a lot
of bureaucracy. So I don't think, you know, it's not
just like Bill Belichick doesn't want to coach the Patriots anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
There's a lot that goes into what happened at UCLA
and why. But if you want to say, hey, Chip
Kelly left because he didn't want to be a head
coach anymore, Yeah, that's the truth, but it was probably
more about UCLA than it was about anything else.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Petros can I hit you with this one?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Obviously, with the realignments and these these PAC twelve schools
going into the Big ten, there's gotta be four. And
when I say to you know, dis gently because it's
not a slight or anything, but people like you who
have been a part of the PAC twelve, is that
group looking for this year to be a win by.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
The success of former PAC twelve teams.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
I mean you guys, clearly, I would assume are going
to take pride in the fact that if these schools
newly into the pack twe excuse me into Big ten
or even in the Big twelve do well this year?
Is that a win to still brag about the PAC
twelve or is it just we accept the fact that
(11:37):
this is not the PAC twelve anymore. But it's nice
that they're having wins or success in these different conferences.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I think you'll get some of that, and you'll get
people that follow And I think you probably had that
thirty years ago or whatever with the Southwest Conference and
people that followed Arkansas and Texas because it was regional
even though they weren't in the same conference more and
now once again, of course they are.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So just wait around and things will come back around.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I don't know if West Coast football in the college
world is ever going to come back around like we
had it. We had a great thing for those of
us on the West Coast. We had travel partners, it
all worked regionally and financially.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It worked.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
But they did not have the foresight like other places
did to keep it going, and they failed the region.
The presidents failed the region, Larry Scott, George Klifkov, everybody
involved failed the entire region.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And now we have what we have.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I do think that people will follow those teams just
like I will, I'll, I'll always. I don't know what
it is. Football is about familiarity. If you're not familiar
with a team, it's awful hard just to turn on
maction and get into it, unless you're like those guys
on Twitter, the Sikos, you know what I mean, like
(12:55):
Jonas and Q and but I like that, you know,
like I like college football that way.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I mean bowling Green on a Tuesday in October.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Come, I like I.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Love football on a Tuesday. You can't convince me otherwise,
all right.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
But what I'm saying is like you have to make
yourself familiar with it, and the more familiar you get
with those teams, Like I'll give you an example. What's
the kid's name. He's the Baylor quarterback now, is it
da Kwan Finn? He was at Toledo, right, So, like
three years ago I did a Toledo game when Dakwan
Finn was the quarterback, and he was impressive. He ran around,
(13:32):
he showed heart, he got banged up, he came back,
he fought hard. His team ended up losing the game,
but I was like, I really like this quarterback. So
whenever Toledo shows up and mac Shin or something like that.
I watched Toledo. What is the good name of the coach?
Candle supposed to be a really good guy, so you
just kind.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Of get interested in it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
And then now he's at Baylor, so we'll see what
he does with Dave Moranda.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So that's the way I follow football.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Just familiarity breeds entertainment, I suppose for me. So yes,
the answer that the long answer to question Levar's Yes,
I will follow all those teams and I will hope
for their success because of a West Coast kind of bias.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I guess that I have.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But I don't know how long cut a last can?
I cut in before Jonas only to ask this question.
If it works out ware Oregon happens to be playing
against Ohio State in the playoff, is it possible that
I can come watch that game with you where wherever
you are house? Yes, sure, your house, a bar, wherever.
(14:41):
I just I don't root that hard like you watch
football with that. I don't go quite.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's a lie.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That is a lie.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Oh that was just fun.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I well, one day I was all geeked up about
the college football playoff, but that was when Jameis Winston
threw the ball behind his head at the road.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Was not that, No, Oregon won that game. I'm talking
about the national championship game in Ohio State plod Oregon.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We watched that together.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Your disappointment for the entire West Coast and the many
things that were uttered that night.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Well, just the inability to block the three technique. It
happened against Auburn too.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What was that?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Truth is coming out?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
What was that three technique? But no, he was the
Auburn guy, yeah, Jack Brown.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
No, they won the championship that year when they beat
Oregon in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
But you know, there is something to be said for that.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I mean, I think that was the most watched BCS
championship ever and it was Auburn versus Oregon. Now, if
you've ever been yeah in Glendale, if you've ever been
to Auburn, and I have, there is nothing at Auburn.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I mean it is all bricks. They have tumors corner.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Not that there's nothing, but it's not a big city
and it's not and yeah they have fans, but they're
not the biggest team in the state.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And then you go to Oregon.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I mean, if any of you we've all been to
Eugene have well, you're not missing that much, you know.
That's kind of the thing. No, No, I'll remember he
took over the game, for godsakes, and he was an
All American player. It was their tackle. They didn't block him,
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he was. He blew up their mesh every single time.
They couldn't run their their stupid zone read. But anyway, uh,
Eugene is not a big place they I mean, yeah,
they have support where in the state of Oregon.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Sure, they have support from Phil Knight.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
And that's why they're an international brand because of all
the stuff that you see going on all over the
place with with their advertising and their marketing and things
of that nature. What I'm saying is what was interesting
about that game. It was West versus East that was
there was something about it there. The whole nation was involved,
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which is not what you get when Alabama plays a
LSU and the BCS title game, which I think was
the least watched BCS title game of all times.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So there is something to be said for that, Brady.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And yes, I'll watch any game with you, but I
might not be able to root as hard or recreate
my emotions from uh ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You just felt like it was an indication of how
people out east would feel about the people on the
West coast.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, yeah, well when you don't block the three technique,
what do you expect? You know? And that's what to
be honest, that's what was beautiful about USC.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Petris d Ford, No Wiley.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I forget it, you guys. It can't be that hard,
I forget it. So what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Though, was this the one they lost to Florida State,
that's the name.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Didn't even look that up, Nick fairly.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
All I'm saying is this.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
What was beautiful about USC for many years was that,
and I'm talking about back to the sixties. USC could
recruit and develop offensive line and that's what made them
great and able to compete with the Alabama's, the Ohio
states and able to dominate you know, Oklahoma's of the
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world and stuff like that. That's why USC is a
great West Coast power. Now Washington was able to put
together a beautiful offensive line and make it work and
play a really great brand of football for a very
short time under Kaylin de Boor and now he's moved
on Oregon is not like they used to be in
those days. They're much different upfront and they are formidable
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on that side. I don't think you're going to see
the same kind of you know, Crysta Ball kind of
started that development upfront for them and it is continued
into this era and they're good up there, So it's
not the same. They don't have the same problems that
they did in the past. But sustainability wise, you know,
who can really create a great front like Michigan did
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last year that made them so good and all those
guys weren't five star recruits, they were just a developed
personnel group. Who has the ability to do that on
the West Coast now is who's going to be able
to compete and make somebody like me proud of my sad,
down trodden politically backwards area.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Well, we love you.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Get them on Twitter at the old pe Petros, Papa Vegas,
The Cost of the Petros and Money Show, Fox College
Football Analysts.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Let's do it again next week, Petros Beautiful.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I think I'm coming into to do it, Like, aren't
you going? You're taking all kinds of vacations, Jonas, I
don't know what your deal is mostly like going through
a midlife crisis.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's a serious you used to never take time off.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
That's that new money Q. Y'all got to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But got stuff we're figuring out.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
You know, can you get Jonahs a new truck? He
needs a new trunk? Think, Petros is there?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yes, I'm here, he's there.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Okay, nice.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, they like to turn me down now because.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, I thought I heard you go down, which is
not cool, by the way, cool, not cool.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, nothing's worse than.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Oh what is worse than one?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay? What did y'all just do that to Petro Rain.
We're gonna have a serious there. That is not that
I don't know how long you worked in radio? Is
this your first baseball game?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
All right?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, you know they'll be sorting that out while we
take a break here.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
We we love you. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
He is.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Oh boy, that's that's gonna cause him.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
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Speaker 1 (23:01):
Speaking of coaching, I know how much respect you have
for Belichick and how how important he's been to you.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Did you talk to him at all about informal or
even a formal role with this team this year I did.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
I threw it out to him just to mean, he
loves football so much that you never know what he
would I mean, I can't believe that he's not a
head coach of a team right now. I know what
I would do if I was.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
An owner, So that shocks me.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
And the last thing you want to do is insult
someone like Bill Belichick. But I know he just loves
Paul in the simplest form. So I threw it all
out to him, like whatever he'd wanted to see. Uh yeah,
I was like, would you be interested? And he was.
He was very nice and and appreciative, but he's he
politely turned me down. But I think he's helping out
(23:42):
a Sun a little bit. I know he's involved in
Washington up there and trying to start that pro I mean,
help out with Jet Fish and what he's doing out there.
And you know it could be good too, because I'm
sure he's going to be back in the league next
year and I don't know how, and I could be
going against him.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
He could be in the n C West.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So it would accept if.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
He came here and then he was going against us
any too, So that's stuff you've got to be careful about.
But I mean he's the best, and I mean just
I just like.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Talking off Kyle Shannan talking about the you know, kicking
the tires. I'm bringing Bill Belichick in last year for
the Niners. That would have been awesome. And to his point,
how the hell is that guy out of a job
in the NFL right now? Kind of it kind of
doesn't make sense when you actually stand back and look
at it, and Robert Kraft, you're on the clock because
you're running out of people to blame it on in
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New England if that turns a new disaster.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So it's too bad. It could have been could have
been a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Of fun to see Belichick in sand Fran with Kyle
Shannan and company.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Or in Ittleasta.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Boy, you know which is which is shocking again to
going back to it. I mean, I think there'll be
a lot of pressure on coaches that we view in
the hot seat, but also in retrospect, like history is
not going to be kind of those teams that had
the chance that interviewed Bill Belichick ended up not hiring him.
I mean, even if just looking back, unless your team
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does something significant, your fan base is always gonna wonder
what if.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I mean, I know I will.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean, I'm not an Atlanta Falcons fan, but I
will always think back and say, like, dude, that was
the one team that everyone peg thought it was a
done deal and ended up not working out, and you
could have had Bill Belichick the greatest coach in NFL history.
It just I mean, again, regardless of what happens with
Belichick the rest of the way, just to not try
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to kick the tires on that, see how that would go.
I don't know in a world wherehere you can sell
so much too off of that sponsorships, you know, following
kind of the journey of all that kind of stuff,
if you are the owner and then profit off that,
how that doesn't factor into as well?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know, just a hypothetical, if Belichick was the coach
in Atlanta, would they have drafted Michael pen after signing
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I don't know what the answer to that would.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Be, because I would think it would be no, just
from the standpoint that that would be thinking long term,
and Belichick feels.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Like it is.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
I don't know that it's necessarily thinking long term, because again,
when were they recruiting Belichick. Was it before or after
they got Kirk Cousins? Does it all play out? How
does it play out altogether if they take Bill bell
I think a better question how do they position their offseason?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
That's probably, now that you think about it.
Speaker 10 (26:39):
It's probably one of the major reasons why they didn't
want Bill Belichick because they wanted to go in a
direction they wanted to go in and had the plan
unfold the way they wanted to plan to unfold, and
it probably wouldn't have fit totally with what Bill Belichick
would want to build a winner and a contender in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Kirk Cousins at one point this offseason in and interview,
said that he would love the opportunity because who wouldn't
to play for Bill Belichick?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
So it was before he got was it after? Did
he say that after?
Speaker 7 (27:11):
Or or was that saying if I go to the
Atlanta Falcons that would be cool if he was the
head coach.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I gotta look back because I think he was on
pardon my take if I'm not mistaken when he said it,
But I don't remember the timeline, but I do know
that he like was with open arms. I would love
to play for Belichick one.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
I just I just know this.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
If Bill Belichick becomes the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons,
the amount of excitement it would have generated with that
roster that they have currently before they even went into
the draft would have would have been amazing for the city.
It would have been amazing for the franchise. They bring
in Raheem Morris, which I don't think is a bad decision.
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I mean, he's been a head coach before, He's had
great success as a defensive coordinator and has you know, experience.
But I will also say, with that being said, there
is a level of pressure probably that will mount on
Raheem Morris and staff if they don't have success. Knowing
that it was all it seemed in the media, all
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but done, that Bill Belichick was going to get this
job outside of something internally falling apart and them going
away from them, I think there's going to be pressure
to perform, and if they don't, you know what, they're
going to come back to, why the hell did you read?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
And you know, go back on I don't want to
say Renig right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Why did you renig on handling the things you did
with Bill Belichick?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
You know what I mean, that's great. I don't anyway.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah, well I didn't want to say it, but I
mean that's what I'm feeling.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
So I just figured, I said, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It, do you get the sense that sometimes they just
people overthink it? Or is it there's maybe displayed the
fact that so many people, i mean, the report came out.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
They were scared for the jobs.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, ultimately Bill Belichick comes in there, you're doing
it the Bill Belichick way, which was for a long
period of time the Patriot way. And you know they've
had people from the Patriots Organization, Scott Pioli, Thomas Debtrough.
I mean, those guys, you know, spend time in New England,
so there was elements of that that were in place.
But when you get Bill Belichick, you get the real deal.
(29:37):
And that's why I was I'm always I'm hopeful that
he finds another destination to coach, because I'm fascinated to
see if he can recreate that somewhere else. Like to me,
it's a case study on leadership organizational structure, like how
if you can truly do what he was able to
do in New England and do it again, and it
(29:58):
doesn't always equate to the same amount of success. I
mean I kind of harken it to you know, Joe Montana,
who you know when he goes with the forty nine ers, right,
you win four straight super bowl I mean you you
win them all and you have all this success with
arguably the greatest NFL player ever in Jerry Rice, and
a great staff with Bill Walsh. He goes to the Chiefs.
(30:20):
He was competitive with the Chiefs. They're making playoff runs.
That was a talented team too, but not quite the
same organization, not quite the same you know, system and
all of that. It's just enough tweaks to make a
difference where there's success but not the same that we
ultimately look at and say that's the standard. But I
still look at it and say, like, yeah, Joe Montana
(30:41):
was still a hell of a quarterback even in a
Chiefs uniform. Like I'll probably feel the same way about
Bill Belichick, even if it doesn't come with the Super Bowls.
But he guides a team that's look at they're firing
their coach, they're probably a bottom of the half league bottom,
you know, fourth of the league team he gets into
the playoffs, you know, he builds them some you sustainability
(31:01):
like that's that to me would be enough to be like, yeah,
like his way worked, you know, no matter where you
was at, even though I understand what's going to come
along with the territory is if he's able to win
a Super Bowl with another franchise. You know, that's based
on what he's already done but still winning in two
different places.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
That puts you on rarefied air.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
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But right now it is time for.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
This Let's go to the newsdesk. No, here's Brady Quick.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, And today's first story starts off with kind of
a bizarre one. So a former Harvard women's hockey coach,
Katie Stone, she's filing a sex discrimination suit this past
Tuesday in the District Court of Massachusetts. She's claiming that
the university forced her out of her position over a
(32:45):
legend misconduct and hazing allegations. What were these hazing allegations, Well,
apparently she was allegedly, I guess, kicked out for having
the hockey players go through a hunger game of sort
of mental health hunger games where involved players having to
skate naked. Oh, anyway, she's she's clearing this way in
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the case.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
And going through there was a different reason, but they
were skating naked.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
They either were skating naked or they weren't.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
No, I think they probably were stating naked, but the
reasoning was was not accurate.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Sure how mental health and skating naked have anyone to
do with each other? However, this is again what she
was supposedly pushed out for. She's denying these allegations, although
it feels like there's a lot of smoke there. I mean,
clearly some of the skating naked and forced to do so.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Imagine stumbling into that practice, like, how what wrong ice.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Got?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I can't tune to find my way out?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
How did I end up on this glass and rose up?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Yam?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
What a hell of a slapsoid? That was that?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
The ice our Our next stor involves two comedians who
have been kicked out of the Olympics and they're never
allowed back, Andy Lee and Hamish Blake. They've both been
banned for life from the Olympic village. This all stet
us from an incident back in twenty twelve during the
London Games where Andy Lee and Hamish Blake were asked
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to come in and speak to the Australian Olympians. However,
one of the gentlemen actually couldn't provide or he had
end up having a snaff foo when he signed in
and for his birthday he put the actual date they
were walking in as opposed to his birthday. Because of this,
he couldn't get security clearance, so he had to stay
(34:58):
outside and let his buddy go inside for the comedy act. However,
one of the Australian athletes ended up saying, hey, you
look kind of like one of our high jumpers, and
so they got him in or snuck him in. Oh
as this alleged potential high jumper. So both these two
could go in do their comedy set for about ninety
minutes before they were eventually caught, taken into separate rooms
(35:19):
and interrogated by security.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Well wait a second, why is he getting banned for life?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
What about the guy who snuck him in and said
you look like one of our high jumpers?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Did?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
They say both of them, only one of them got
stuck in, but it was a it was also an Olympian,
so I think they let the olympian off the hood.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, I mean, look, worst things have happened to the
Olympic village if you believed some of the some of
the reports out there, Well, that's.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Not the worst thing to get banned from the Olympics.
I mean, how many times is he going to go?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Really now?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
If he also is Speaking of what you're talking about,
there's actually videos going viral of Olympians testing out the
anti sex beds in Paris and.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What is that hard board?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And they're not really supposed to be able to gyrate
or move.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Much if you will.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
I mean some people like the head the sniff tiff,
that's the Matris.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, hey man, And there's some people in Venice right
now who've got a sleeping bag and a slab.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Of concrete and they're getting it done.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I'll show you anti sex mattress.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh what a.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Speaking of getting that work, it's Tom Brady once again, folks.
He's linked to an SI swimsuit model.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Shocking.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I know, came Brooks Nader at least dating room.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
The problem is, if you've actually been following his uh
his dating of late, it's a little bit hard to
understand who exactly.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
He could be dating.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
There was an influencer, a Bazilian influencer model named Isabella Sentanie.
But there are a number of times can see why
if you just look her up and then also he's
he's been seen with I don't even know have have
pronounce Irena shake? I believe how you denounced that Rena?
That a Russian fashion model? What common denominators are all a?
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Don't? Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I support that too? I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
A second, Oh, I mean he's gonna do just fine.
I got a feeling he's yeah, that'll work. You think
that'll work?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And look, I would, I would say this. I think
he's upgraded, to be honest with you. Oh wow, wow,
I think he has this is uh, this is impressive.
He's got Now is he on Leonardo DiCaprio's you know,
is he in that express?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Twenty four years old?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Then?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Lastly, before you know, unless unless you're driving, don't look
at this, but there's a video going viral of the
humpback whale that's ticked off toppling over fisherman boats over
near that I'm sure that near the coast. Check that
out if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Kind of a.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Scary thing, but crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Around he humping the hall.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Ticked off whale man humpback whale.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Jonas, you a fool, Jonas
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those is the Old Pe Petros Papadakis. He is the
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can hear on the Blowtorch, a five to seventy LA
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on x at the Old Pe Petros. What's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Good morning, Good.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Morning to everybody. Hello, Hello to you. Hello, you been
trying to get a hold of you, LeVar, What you mean?
My people have been trying to get a hold of you.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
Who Tim Cats, my producer. We are trying to book
you for a show a week from Friday. Come on,
let's do it at the camp Site Brewing Company in Covina, California.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
What day?
Speaker 5 (01:54):
Let's do it Friday, a week from Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Three and a half our window for you to arrive.
Think I'm out of town all right, Damn, We're moving on.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
Next next Friday.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
That would be a week from Friday, a.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Week from this Friday coming. Yeah, I'm gonna be out
of town.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I wish I could get an invite to one of
these PMS remotes.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Shut up. You've been to like five damn.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Yeah, I wish I could have came. I'm being state college.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
I figured it's one or the other for you. Yes,
all right, what do you guys want to talk about?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Hey, I'm here, I'm at your disposal, so we want
to come hang.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
We're talking about Big ten media days and you're seeing
Oregon pull up. You know they've got a giant rubber
ducky on on the lake out there or whatever.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
In Indian Yeah.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
Well I was around when they did the whole Joey
Harrington billboard, and they did the uh they had all
the receivers on the Figaroa Hotel and they had their
cornerbacks on the four oh five remember that. And they
did the Times Square kidd, Yeah, this isn't new. And
they tried to get bo Nix the Heisman last year.
(03:07):
Remember they had the big bow Nicks billboard. It's Phil
Knight and he wants it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Well, yeah, but does it like just from a standpoint
of those are all PAC twelve teams. And I know
we've talked about this at length before, but the fact
that it's finally here and you're seeing all of them
kind of incorporated into the Big Ten.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Now they're at Big Ten media.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
Days, scattered like the Tower of Babbel, speaking languages that
nobody understands.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Like, have you.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Gotten used to that yet? Or is it still seem
a little bit surreal that that's what this is coming.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
No, I don't think anybody's used to it, and I
don't think anybody's going to be used to it until
much later, if ever, if we even have it long
enough to be used to it. I mean, how used
to it? Are you going to get to the ACC
when it's on the dizzy edge of crumbling quite soon?
And then you have the situation with all these teams
(04:02):
in the Big Ten and the arms race between the
SEC and the Big ten, which is Disney and Fox.
I'm not really sure what there is to get used to.
I mean, college football has always been a changing, evolving,
ever hypocritical entity, but this is a whole new era.
(04:23):
And I imagine that once we get down to like
playing football games and throwing and catching the ball and
traveling around the country and putting the stuff on air,
that we'll get a better idea of how interested people.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Are in it.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
I would imagine they're very interested despite certain changes here
and there. But I don't know if there's ever going
to be any getting used to it, because it's one
thing to add Utah and Colorado to the Pac twelve
and kind of simmer in it for a few years
before it feels normal. But this is a totally this
is a totally different thing, and I don't think anybody
(04:59):
knows exactly what it's going to be like other than
the fact that we're going to be playing football.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Like we always do.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
And that's really the only thing that's normal about the
football season is the fact that we're going to play football,
because everything else is totally different.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah, and you know, today, Petros, I get the chance
to talk to some of those West Coast teams. We
heard you and I heard Lincoln Riley speak at our
summinar last week. First thing I want to ask is
just your overall thoughts of SC going into the season
and maybe the optimism or is this team maybe in
a better place where you feel like Lincoln Riley would.
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Want to have him at this point.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
And then the other thing is just talking about UCLA.
I kind of I thought that I forgot but when
it happened when Schip Kelly decided to leave UCLA to
be a coordinator. It still blew my mind that it
wasn't like he was going to the NFL. He went
to another another college team, Like I'm just kind of
(05:56):
curious about like what that maybe says about UCLA maybe
Chip Kelly. And also just how you kind of see
USC heading into the season.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Well, let's start with USC.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
We heard Lincoln Riley talking, and you know, it's very
difficult when any kind of public press conference, even the
Fox seminar, unless somebody's had a couple drinks, you really
just get the platitudes. There's nothing in there that really
makes you feel like you're getting something special, Like when
(06:27):
you're at the bar and somebody's really telling you what's
going on, or you have a private meeting with somebody.
It's just we're going to do this, we like this,
we like where we're at, blah blah blah, these challenges,
we embrace these challenges.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
But the truth is USC is going to be very different,
just in the fact that they've made a lot of
different hires and their defensive staff and that is something
Lincoln Riley talked about, and I'm interested to see what
that's like.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
The other thing you talked about, which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Remember Brady was the play calling for Caleb Williams and
how it really didn't suit him as a play caller
because the guy was such a freelancer. And you know
Lincoln Riley and the way he calls plays. I remember
how brilliant he was with Baker Mayfield, you know, moving
him half rolls, stopping throwing back across the field, you know,
(07:19):
different stuff like that. And they were able to do
it because they had the two beautiful running backs mixing
and p Ryan all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But I just don't know what SC is going to
be like.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
I think a successful season's like eight or nine wins.
Beyond that, it'll probably be a situation where Lincoln Riley
finds his way to be a coordinator or something in
the NFL, because this is not the athletic director that
hired him. But it's also a ninety million dollar paycheck
that they paid just to get rid of everybody and
(07:52):
bring him and his staff in half of which they
fired now after a very disappointing second season. So there's
almost US is like a microcosm of college football in general.
A lot of unknowns, more questions and answers. Right now,
as far as u CELA goes, people talk about chip
Kelly and oh, chip Kelly left, and it says everything
(08:15):
about modern college football.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And yeah, you can make.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
That example if you want to make that an example,
if you want to sit there and talk about how
no one wants to be a head coach anymore because
it sucks, and look at what chip Kelly happened. Yes,
but you really have to understand the situation individually. In
every situation individually, chip Kelly and his athletic director were
not getting along. They did not support each other. You
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could say that's on Martin Jarman, you could say it's
on chip Kelly.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Either way.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Their relationship had deteriorated to the point where chip Kelly
didn't want to coach there anymore. He wasn't getting the
recruiting support he felt like he needed. Now that exists
that UCLA. Just look at all the transfers and the
nil that mc cronin just bought in. But UCLA is
an open wallet until it's closed. And I think Martin
(09:06):
Jarmon did some things the ad at UCLA as far
as being ambitious and looking for other jobs. That turned
people off at that university, and they close the wallet
to him and they don't They're not going to help him,
which is why he ended up hiring Deshan Foster instead
of making another big giant swing like they did with
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chip Kelly. They're not going to let him hire another
chip Kelly because he ruined that relationship. So Deshaun's get
a chance, and they brought in the enemy, and that's
also very confusing.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
I don't know what that's going to be like. I
hope that they have some success.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
They're going to be motivated, and the players really love DeShawn,
But what does that look like?
Speaker 2 (09:47):
You know, what does it look like when you make
the running.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Back coach the head coach, right, and then he hires
another running back to be the courtinator.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They're going to run Q eight on every third and eight.
So I don't know what that's going to be like.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
But that's a situation where I don't think chip Kelly
would have left just any head coaching job. I think
he was eternally disappointed at the support he got at UCLA,
which is a difficult place.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To work.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
You need two signatures just to get a new pencil
sharpener because you work for the state of California and
it's there's a lot of red tape and a lot
of bureaucracy. So I don't think, you know, it's not
just like Bill Belichick doesn't want to coach the Patriots anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
You know, it's not.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
There's a lot that goes into what happened at UCLA
and why. But if you want to say, hey, Chip
Kelly left because he didn't want to be a head
coach anymore, Yeah, that's the truth, but it was probably
more about UCLA than it was about anything else.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Petros can I hit you with this one?
Speaker 7 (10:50):
Obviously, with the realignments and these these PAC twelve schools
going into the Big ten, there's gotta be four. And
when I say to you know, dis gently because it's
not a slight or anything, but people like you who
have been a part of the PAC twelve, is that
group looking for this year to be a win by.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
The success of former PAC twelve teams.
Speaker 7 (11:14):
I mean you guys, clearly, I would assume are going
to take pride in the fact that if these schools
newly into the pack twe excuse me into Big ten
or even in the Big twelve do well this year?
Is that a win to still brag about the PAC
twelve or is it just we accept the fact that
(11:37):
this is not the PAC twelve anymore. But it's nice
that they're having wins or success in these different conferences.
Speaker 5 (11:45):
I think you'll get some of that, and you'll get
people that follow And I think you probably had that
thirty years ago or whatever with the Southwest Conference and
people that followed Arkansas and Texas because it was regional
even though they weren't in the same conference more and
now once again, of course they are.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
So just wait around and things will come back around.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I don't know if West Coast football in the college
world is ever going to come back around like we
had it. We had a great thing for those of
us on the West Coast. We had travel partners, it
all worked regionally and financially.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
It worked.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
But they did not have the foresight like other places
did to keep it going, and they failed the region.
The presidents failed the region, Larry Scott, George Klifkov, everybody
involved failed the entire region.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
And now we have what we have.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
I do think that people will follow those teams just
like I will, I'll, I'll always. I don't know what
it is. Football is about familiarity. If you're not familiar
with a team, it's awful hard just to turn on
maction and get into it, unless you're like those guys
on Twitter, the Sikos, you know what I mean, like
(12:55):
Jonas and Q and but I like that, you know,
like I like college football that way.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
I mean bowling Green on a Tuesday in October.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Come, I like I.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Love football on a Tuesday. You can't convince me otherwise,
all right.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
But what I'm saying is like you have to make
yourself familiar with it, and the more familiar you get
with those teams, Like I'll give you an example. What's
the kid's name. He's the Baylor quarterback now, is it
da Kwan Finn? He was at Toledo, right, So, like
three years ago I did a Toledo game when Dakwan
Finn was the quarterback, and he was impressive. He ran around,
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he showed heart, he got banged up, he came back,
he fought hard. His team ended up losing the game,
but I was like, I really like this quarterback. So
whenever Toledo shows up and mac Shin or something like that.
I watched Toledo. What is the good name of the coach?
Candle supposed to be a really good guy, so you
just kind.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Of get interested in it.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
And then now he's at Baylor, so we'll see what
he does with Dave Moranda.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So that's the way I follow football.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Just familiarity breeds entertainment, I suppose for me. So yes,
the answer that the long answer to question Levar's Yes,
I will follow all those teams and I will hope
for their success because of a West Coast kind of bias.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
I guess that I have.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But I don't know how long cut a last can?
I cut in before Jonas only to ask this question.
If it works out ware Oregon happens to be playing
against Ohio State in the playoff, is it possible that
I can come watch that game with you where wherever
you are house? Yes, sure, your house, a bar, wherever.
(14:41):
I just I don't root that hard like you watch
football with that. I don't go quite.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's a lie.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
That is a lie.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Oh that was just fun.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
I well, one day I was all geeked up about
the college football playoff, but that was when Jameis Winston
threw the ball behind his head at the road.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Was not that, No, Oregon won that game. I'm talking
about the national championship game in Ohio State plod Oregon.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
We watched that together.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Your disappointment for the entire West Coast and the many
things that were uttered that night.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Well, just the inability to block the three technique. It
happened against Auburn too.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
What was that?
Speaker 6 (15:18):
Truth is coming out?
Speaker 2 (15:19):
What was that three technique? But no, he was the
Auburn guy, yeah, Jack Brown.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
No, they won the championship that year when they beat
Oregon in Arizona.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
But you know, there is something to be said for that.
Speaker 5 (15:34):
I mean, I think that was the most watched BCS
championship ever and it was Auburn versus Oregon. Now, if
you've ever been yeah in Glendale, if you've ever been
to Auburn, and I have, there is nothing at Auburn.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
I mean it is all bricks. They have tumors corner.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Not that there's nothing, but it's not a big city
and it's not and yeah they have fans, but they're
not the biggest team in the state.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
And then you go to Oregon.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
I mean, if any of you we've all been to
Eugene have well, you're not missing that much, you know.
That's kind of the thing. No, No, I'll remember he
took over the game, for godsakes, and he was an
All American player. It was their tackle. They didn't block him,
(16:27):
he was. He blew up their mesh every single time.
They couldn't run their their stupid zone read. But anyway, uh,
Eugene is not a big place they I mean, yeah,
they have support where in the state of Oregon.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Sure, they have support from Phil Knight.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
And that's why they're an international brand because of all
the stuff that you see going on all over the
place with with their advertising and their marketing and things
of that nature. What I'm saying is what was interesting
about that game. It was West versus East that was
there was something about it there. The whole nation was involved,
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which is not what you get when Alabama plays a
LSU and the BCS title game, which I think was
the least watched BCS title game of all times.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So there is something to be said for that, Brady.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
And yes, I'll watch any game with you, but I
might not be able to root as hard or recreate
my emotions from uh ten years ago.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You just felt like it was an indication of how
people out east would feel about the people on the
West coast.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
You know.
Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, yeah, well when you don't block the three technique,
what do you expect? You know? And that's what to
be honest, that's what was beautiful about USC.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Petris d Ford, No Wiley.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I forget it, you guys. It can't be that hard,
I forget it. So what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Though, was this the one they lost to Florida State,
that's the name.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Didn't even look that up, Nick fairly.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
All I'm saying is this.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
What was beautiful about USC for many years was that,
and I'm talking about back to the sixties. USC could
recruit and develop offensive line and that's what made them
great and able to compete with the Alabama's, the Ohio
states and able to dominate you know, Oklahoma's of the
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world and stuff like that. That's why USC is a
great West Coast power. Now Washington was able to put
together a beautiful offensive line and make it work and
play a really great brand of football for a very
short time under Kaylin de Boor and now he's moved
on Oregon is not like they used to be in
those days. They're much different upfront and they are formidable
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on that side. I don't think you're going to see
the same kind of you know, Crysta Ball kind of
started that development upfront for them and it is continued
into this era and they're good up there, So it's
not the same. They don't have the same problems that
they did in the past. But sustainability wise, you know,
who can really create a great front like Michigan did
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last year that made them so good and all those
guys weren't five star recruits, they were just a developed
personnel group. Who has the ability to do that on
the West Coast now is who's going to be able
to compete and make somebody like me proud of my sad,
down trodden politically backwards area.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Well, we love you.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Get them on Twitter at the old pe Petros, Papa Vegas,
The Cost of the Petros and Money Show, Fox College
Football Analysts.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Let's do it again next week, Petros Beautiful.
Speaker 5 (19:43):
I think I'm coming into to do it, Like, aren't
you going? You're taking all kinds of vacations, Jonas, I
don't know what your deal is mostly like going through
a midlife crisis.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
That's a serious you used to never take time off.
Speaker 6 (19:58):
That's that new money Q. Y'all got to pay attention.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
But got stuff we're figuring out.
Speaker 6 (20:04):
You know, can you get Jonahs a new truck? He
needs a new trunk? Think, Petros is there?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yes, I'm here, he's there.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
Okay, nice.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, they like to turn me down now because.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, I thought I heard you go down, which is
not cool, by the way, cool, not cool.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
No, nothing's worse than.
Speaker 4 (20:21):
Oh what is worse than one?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay? What did y'all just do that to Petro Rain.
We're gonna have a serious there. That is not that
I don't know how long you worked in radio? Is
this your first baseball game?
Speaker 6 (20:41):
All right?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Well, you know they'll be sorting that out while we
take a break here.
Speaker 4 (20:45):
We we love you. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
He is.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Oh boy, that's that's gonna cause him.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
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Speaker 4 (22:31):
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Minutes from now, we are going to have another edition
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We also nearly got one of the great coaching duos
in modern history because Kyle Shanahan, the head coach of
the forty nine ers, speaking yesterday to the media media
(22:55):
while at training camp, discuss the possibility of adding the
Goat to his staff.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Speaking of coaching, I know how much respect you have
for Belichick and how how important he's been to you.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Did you talk to him at all about informal or
even a formal role with this team this year I did.
Speaker 9 (23:11):
I threw it out to him just to mean, he
loves football so much that you never know what he
would I mean, I can't believe that he's not a
head coach of a team right now. I know what
I would do if I was.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
An owner, So that shocks me.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
And the last thing you want to do is insult
someone like Bill Belichick. But I know he just loves
Paul in the simplest form. So I threw it all
out to him, like whatever he'd wanted to see. Uh yeah,
I was like, would you be interested? And he was.
He was very nice and and appreciative, but he's he
politely turned me down. But I think he's helping out
(23:42):
a Sun a little bit. I know he's involved in
Washington up there and trying to start that pro I mean,
help out with Jet Fish and what he's doing out there.
And you know it could be good too, because I'm
sure he's going to be back in the league next
year and I don't know how, and I could be
going against him.
Speaker 6 (23:57):
He could be in the n C West.
Speaker 4 (23:58):
So it would accept if.
Speaker 9 (24:00):
He came here and then he was going against us
any too, So that's stuff you've got to be careful about.
But I mean he's the best, and I mean just
I just like.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Talking off Kyle Shannan talking about the you know, kicking
the tires. I'm bringing Bill Belichick in last year for
the Niners. That would have been awesome. And to his point,
how the hell is that guy out of a job
in the NFL right now? Kind of it kind of
doesn't make sense when you actually stand back and look
at it, and Robert Kraft, you're on the clock because
you're running out of people to blame it on in
(24:30):
New England if that turns a new disaster.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
So it's too bad. It could have been could have
been a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Of fun to see Belichick in sand Fran with Kyle
Shannan and company.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Or in Ittleasta.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Boy, you know which is which is shocking again to
going back to it. I mean, I think there'll be
a lot of pressure on coaches that we view in
the hot seat, but also in retrospect, like history is
not going to be kind of those teams that had
the chance that interviewed Bill Belichick ended up not hiring him.
I mean, even if just looking back, unless your team
(25:05):
does something significant, your fan base is always gonna wonder
what if.
Speaker 6 (25:10):
I mean, I know I will.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
I mean, I'm not an Atlanta Falcons fan, but I
will always think back and say, like, dude, that was
the one team that everyone peg thought it was a
done deal and ended up not working out, and you
could have had Bill Belichick the greatest coach in NFL history.
It just I mean, again, regardless of what happens with
Belichick the rest of the way, just to not try
(25:34):
to kick the tires on that, see how that would go.
I don't know in a world wherehere you can sell
so much too off of that sponsorships, you know, following
kind of the journey of all that kind of stuff,
if you are the owner and then profit off that,
how that doesn't factor into as well?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
You know, just a hypothetical, if Belichick was the coach
in Atlanta, would they have drafted Michael pen after signing
Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:03):
I don't know what the answer to that would.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Be, because I would think it would be no, just
from the standpoint that that would be thinking long term,
and Belichick feels.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Like it is.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
I don't know that it's necessarily thinking long term, because again,
when were they recruiting Belichick. Was it before or after
they got Kirk Cousins? Does it all play out? How
does it play out altogether if they take Bill bell
I think a better question how do they position their offseason?
Speaker 6 (26:36):
That's probably, now that you think about it.
Speaker 10 (26:39):
It's probably one of the major reasons why they didn't
want Bill Belichick because they wanted to go in a
direction they wanted to go in and had the plan
unfold the way they wanted to plan to unfold, and
it probably wouldn't have fit totally with what Bill Belichick
would want to build a winner and a contender in Atlanta.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Kirk Cousins at one point this offseason in and interview,
said that he would love the opportunity because who wouldn't
to play for Bill Belichick?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
So it was before he got was it after? Did
he say that after?
Speaker 7 (27:11):
Or or was that saying if I go to the
Atlanta Falcons that would be cool if he was the
head coach.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I gotta look back because I think he was on
pardon my take if I'm not mistaken when he said it,
But I don't remember the timeline, but I do know
that he like was with open arms. I would love
to play for Belichick one.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
I just I just know this.
Speaker 7 (27:31):
If Bill Belichick becomes the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons,
the amount of excitement it would have generated with that
roster that they have currently before they even went into
the draft would have would have been amazing for the city.
It would have been amazing for the franchise. They bring
in Raheem Morris, which I don't think is a bad decision.
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I mean, he's been a head coach before, He's had
great success as a defensive coordinator and has you know, experience.
But I will also say, with that being said, there
is a level of pressure probably that will mount on
Raheem Morris and staff if they don't have success. Knowing
that it was all it seemed in the media, all
(28:16):
but done, that Bill Belichick was going to get this
job outside of something internally falling apart and them going
away from them, I think there's going to be pressure
to perform, and if they don't, you know what, they're
going to come back to, why the hell did you read?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
And you know, go back on I don't want to
say Renig right now, you know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (28:37):
Why did you renig on handling the things you did
with Bill Belichick?
Speaker 6 (28:43):
You know what I mean, that's great. I don't anyway.
Speaker 7 (28:49):
Yeah, well I didn't want to say it, but I
mean that's what I'm feeling.
Speaker 6 (28:54):
So I just figured, I said, you know.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
It, do you get the sense that sometimes they just
people overthink it? Or is it there's maybe displayed the
fact that so many people, i mean, the report came out.
Speaker 6 (29:10):
They were scared for the jobs.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
I mean, ultimately Bill Belichick comes in there, you're doing
it the Bill Belichick way, which was for a long
period of time the Patriot way. And you know they've
had people from the Patriots Organization, Scott Pioli, Thomas Debtrough.
I mean, those guys, you know, spend time in New England,
so there was elements of that that were in place.
But when you get Bill Belichick, you get the real deal.
(29:37):
And that's why I was I'm always I'm hopeful that
he finds another destination to coach, because I'm fascinated to
see if he can recreate that somewhere else. Like to me,
it's a case study on leadership organizational structure, like how
if you can truly do what he was able to
do in New England and do it again, and it
(29:58):
doesn't always equate to the same amount of success. I
mean I kind of harken it to you know, Joe Montana,
who you know when he goes with the forty nine ers, right,
you win four straight super bowl I mean you you
win them all and you have all this success with
arguably the greatest NFL player ever in Jerry Rice, and
a great staff with Bill Walsh. He goes to the Chiefs.
(30:20):
He was competitive with the Chiefs. They're making playoff runs.
That was a talented team too, but not quite the
same organization, not quite the same you know, system and
all of that. It's just enough tweaks to make a
difference where there's success but not the same that we
ultimately look at and say that's the standard. But I
still look at it and say, like, yeah, Joe Montana
(30:41):
was still a hell of a quarterback even in a
Chiefs uniform. Like I'll probably feel the same way about
Bill Belichick, even if it doesn't come with the Super Bowls.
But he guides a team that's look at they're firing
their coach, they're probably a bottom of the half league bottom,
you know, fourth of the league team he gets into
the playoffs, you know, he builds them some you sustainability
(31:01):
like that's that to me would be enough to be like, yeah,
like his way worked, you know, no matter where you
was at, even though I understand what's going to come
along with the territory is if he's able to win
a Super Bowl with another franchise. You know, that's based
on what he's already done but still winning in two
different places.
Speaker 6 (31:18):
That puts you on rarefied air.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
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Speaker 4 (32:13):
But right now it is time for.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
This Let's go to the newsdesk. No, here's Brady Quick.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Yeah, And today's first story starts off with kind of
a bizarre one. So a former Harvard women's hockey coach,
Katie Stone, she's filing a sex discrimination suit this past
Tuesday in the District Court of Massachusetts. She's claiming that
the university forced her out of her position over a
(32:45):
legend misconduct and hazing allegations. What were these hazing allegations, Well,
apparently she was allegedly, I guess, kicked out for having
the hockey players go through a hunger game of sort
of mental health hunger games where involved players having to
skate naked. Oh, anyway, she's she's clearing this way in
(33:08):
the case.
Speaker 7 (33:09):
And going through there was a different reason, but they
were skating naked.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
They either were skating naked or they weren't.
Speaker 7 (33:18):
No, I think they probably were stating naked, but the
reasoning was was not accurate.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Sure how mental health and skating naked have anyone to
do with each other? However, this is again what she
was supposedly pushed out for. She's denying these allegations, although
it feels like there's a lot of smoke there. I mean,
clearly some of the skating naked and forced to do so.
Speaker 7 (33:45):
Imagine stumbling into that practice, like, how what wrong ice.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Got?
Speaker 4 (33:52):
I can't tune to find my way out?
Speaker 7 (33:57):
How did I end up on this glass and rose up?
Speaker 5 (34:03):
Yam?
Speaker 2 (34:06):
What a hell of a slapsoid? That was that?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
The ice our Our next stor involves two comedians who
have been kicked out of the Olympics and they're never
allowed back, Andy Lee and Hamish Blake. They've both been
banned for life from the Olympic village. This all stet
us from an incident back in twenty twelve during the
London Games where Andy Lee and Hamish Blake were asked
(34:37):
to come in and speak to the Australian Olympians. However,
one of the gentlemen actually couldn't provide or he had
end up having a snaff foo when he signed in
and for his birthday he put the actual date they
were walking in as opposed to his birthday. Because of this,
he couldn't get security clearance, so he had to stay
(34:58):
outside and let his buddy go inside for the comedy act. However,
one of the Australian athletes ended up saying, hey, you
look kind of like one of our high jumpers, and
so they got him in or snuck him in. Oh
as this alleged potential high jumper. So both these two
could go in do their comedy set for about ninety
minutes before they were eventually caught, taken into separate rooms
(35:19):
and interrogated by security.
Speaker 4 (35:21):
Well wait a second, why is he getting banned for life?
Speaker 3 (35:23):
What about the guy who snuck him in and said
you look like one of our high jumpers?
Speaker 6 (35:27):
Did?
Speaker 1 (35:27):
They say both of them, only one of them got
stuck in, but it was a it was also an Olympian,
so I think they let the olympian off the hood.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Well, I mean, look, worst things have happened to the
Olympic village if you believed some of the some of
the reports out there, Well, that's.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Not the worst thing to get banned from the Olympics.
I mean, how many times is he going to go?
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Really now?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
If he also is Speaking of what you're talking about,
there's actually videos going viral of Olympians testing out the
anti sex beds in Paris and.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
What is that hard board?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
And they're not really supposed to be able to gyrate
or move.
Speaker 6 (36:06):
Much if you will.
Speaker 10 (36:07):
I mean some people like the head the sniff tiff,
that's the Matris.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, hey man, And there's some people in Venice right
now who've got a sleeping bag and a slab.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Of concrete and they're getting it done.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
I'll show you anti sex mattress.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Oh what a.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Speaking of getting that work, it's Tom Brady once again, folks.
He's linked to an SI swimsuit model.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Shocking.
Speaker 1 (36:37):
I know, came Brooks Nader at least dating room.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Now.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
The problem is, if you've actually been following his uh
his dating of late, it's a little bit hard to
understand who exactly.
Speaker 6 (36:51):
He could be dating.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
There was an influencer, a Bazilian influencer model named Isabella Sentanie.
But there are a number of times can see why
if you just look her up and then also he's
he's been seen with I don't even know have have
pronounce Irena shake? I believe how you denounced that Rena?
That a Russian fashion model? What common denominators are all a?
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Don't? Is that?
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I support that too? I mean.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
A second, Oh, I mean he's gonna do just fine.
I got a feeling he's yeah, that'll work. You think
that'll work?
Speaker 3 (37:34):
And look, I would, I would say this. I think
he's upgraded, to be honest with you. Oh wow, wow,
I think he has this is uh, this is impressive.
He's got Now is he on Leonardo DiCaprio's you know,
is he in that express?
Speaker 1 (37:49):
Twenty four years old?
Speaker 3 (37:50):
Then?
Speaker 1 (37:53):
Lastly, before you know, unless unless you're driving, don't look
at this, but there's a video going viral of the
humpback whale that's ticked off toppling over fisherman boats over
near that I'm sure that near the coast. Check that
out if you haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Kind of a.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Scary thing, but crazy.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Around he humping the hall.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Ticked off whale man humpback whale.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Jonas, you a fool, Jonas
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