July 25, 2024 • 40 mins
Jim Harbaugh is in midseason form. Lincoln Riley sets the table for USC’s start in the Big Ten. TheMMQB Senior NFL Reporter, Albert Breer joins the guys from the start of his Training Camp Tour to talk Hold Outs, Hold Ins and more! Plus, an Olympic preview on “You In or Out?”
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Speaker 1 (00:38):
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where Lee? Where is he by the wave?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's true?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What was he? Was he going to stay college again
this weekend? Or what I knew?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
He had to fly into Philly and then I think
he's on his way to New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, well yeah that makes sense. I guess all that. Okay,
got you all right? Well listen, he's got you know,
he's got all sorts of family stuff, obligations, things going on.
So no worries. I'll be back on the show tomorrow.
We'll get all the travel stories from one Styx Arrington.
We'll see whether or not he was hostile again to
an airline employee. That was always a fun story to retell.
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So there's that.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
But it is fun to listen to LeVar recant that
story because I don't know that he denies. I guess
he kind of denies being hostile, but you know, you
could see how that could have gotten out of hand.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I don't think he knows his own intimidation. You know,
it's like somebody that doesn't know their own strength. Like
I don't think he understands like when he addresses something,
maybe it does come off as hostile as opposed to
it would be different if somebody else said the exact
same thing in the exact same tone. So I think
maybe that's where he's not really understanding of the full
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Deshaun Foster, the viral I guess introduction to the Big
(02:25):
Ten that took place at Big Ten Media Days in
Indianapolis last yesterday, and it was not good, not a
great look. And so UCLA's first year in the Big
Ten off to a rocky start. Now on the flip
side of that, you've got Lincoln Riley and USC they
too are in the Big Ten. And Lincoln Riley spoke
yesterday about the progress of the program and also took
(02:49):
time to sort of share where he feels us is
when it comes to the Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
So fun to see the progress, the progress defensively, the
progress on the facilities of progress to our you know,
relationship with the administration, with jin and and and and
all the crew that she's brought in, which has been
great progress on I mean, you know, the roster, progress
on nil.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean, there's not any part of this that we're
not making progress on. And like I'm.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Not the oldest coach, I haven't I haven't seen it all.
But I've been through this enough of these blue bloods
to know that the outside is always going to be sensationalized.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
One way or another. And but if you have a plan.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
And you stick to it and you stay steady. Then
then then you know that you're making progress in the
key areas that.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You have to do it, that eventually it's going to
be what we want it to be. And that's what
we're doing right now.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
We are at the top of the Big Ten conference.
I mean we're at top of We're at the top.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Of any conference.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I don't never look at ourselves below anybody, and I
never will. You know, listen, two years ago, looker Ohio
State and Oregon or two years ago, you know, look.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
What those Look what they took over.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Look what we took over.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, I mean, it's it takes time.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, I'm not a magician.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I can't wave a magic wand and everything just be
perfect right away. But find one area that we had
made progress. So this thing's got momentum. It's coming. Nothing's
gonna stop it. That's fine. They start at a different point.
You know, we'll see where it ends up.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Your guy, Lincoln Riley yesterday at Big Ten Media Days.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Boy, I tell you what, there will be some people
and then there already probably are who will be critical.
And then he pointed, he pointed to it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You know, when you're a.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Head coach of a blue blood, you're gonna be criticized.
When you were a head coach who left Oklahoma for
another blue blood the way he did, you're gonna be criticized.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
But he brings about a lot of truth. I mean,
this is the most.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Probably transparent Lincoln Riley I've seen, at least since covering
the sport when he's taken over as a head coach,
dating back to Oklahoma, and he is drawing to light
a lot of things that I think have been smoking
merors for a while with some of the folks in
Southern California, and that's your facilities have lagged. They did
a stadium renovation that helped improve at least how the
(05:04):
Colosseum looks now, But the truth of the matter, even nil,
they haven't been competitive like people want to make it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Seem or appear that way.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
There's a lot of things that are floated out there
that we can dive deeper into. But the truth of
the matter is, I mean, Jordan Addison didn't get what
he was hoping for, being a bullet and a coff
winner going in joining Southern cow. The rumors and reports
that he was unhappy about a lot of things with
that or true. So you start hearing more about that
sort of thing and go, yeah, they're not where they
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want to be. But to his point, they were taking
over a program that probably had more work to do
than many others. But it still is going to come
off like an excuse and to say that you're at
the top of the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Look, we get to see it now.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
We get to see it year one, how much progress
they've truly made on the defensive side of the ball
on their roster. And I think more than anything else,
this year is going to be a big time stamp
of what this Lincoln Riley team is going to be
because of the quarterback, Miller Moss is going to play
within the system. He's not the type of guy that's
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going to you know, buy time, create, try to scramble
around and play backyard football, where oftentimes you saw Caleb
Williams doing that And in fact, you know, sitting and
listening to Lincoln Riley talk during the Big Ten media days,
you got the sense that maybe there were some times
where he wished he would have played more than the
offense and that might have been a pressure point that
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you know, wasn't great necessarily, whether it was with Lincoln Riley,
the staff or the team is KILEB. Williams kind of
went out and did his own thing. At least that's
an impression that I got from from some of the
comments that were made. So, you know, all in all,
when it boils down to it is this is a crucial,
critical year three for Lincoln Riley as far as what
Southern cal is going to be. And don't don't forget
(06:54):
too They've got an athletic director that did not hire
Lincoln Riley. So if things don't continue to prove and
it looks like he's not the right guy to help
lead them into the Big Ten. With this transition, there's
no ties to him outside of having to buy out
a ridiculously enormous contract that he was given on his
way walking in.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So it feels like about two years ago there was
conversations about would he be the next guy to go
from college to the NFL? If like, how what is
from people you've talked to, what's the reputation or how
much of that could still happen for him if he decides,
(07:33):
you know, one year in the Big ten, you know, listen,
barring a complete disaster for USC, say they's somewhat competitive,
but not near the top of the heap as he
claims that they are. Is there still an interest based
on what he's done previously with quarterbacks in his programs
to maybe be an appeal from some NFL franchise to
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want to hire him.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
There may be some interest, but I think he needs
to have a lot of success, and you know, if
he doesn't, it would lead him down the path of
like where does he go?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Then?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
You know, is there another opportunity maybe somewhere else, or
is it an offensive coordinator job? I mean, I think
someone would definitely be willing to hire him as an
offensive coordinator in the NFL. In regards to as a
head coach, it's hard to tell at this point. I mean,
you heard some of those rumors last year, and then
as the team fell flat on the face, those rumors disappeared.
He's a coach that, I believe, you know, inherited what
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was a stable, blue blood program in Oklahoma that was
dominating the Big twelve, and he was able to uphold that. However,
if you look at kind of how that program has
fared after he left, you know, that's one of the
indications when you're a legend like Bob Stoops, looking how
the program was able to sustain itself when he left it.
You know, for Lincoln Riley, it wasn't the case at all.
(08:49):
You know, he pillsed it in some ways. He took
players with him. He you know, the defense started to
become decimated the.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Longer he was there as head coach.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
There wasn't as much of a focus on that, and
unfortunately for Southern cal Now, looking at what he inherited,
you could say, well, you know, yeah, that was a
program that was down. But go compare the first two
years of Clay Held in the first two years of
Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
How different really are they?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
So yes, the undertaking was dramatically different at Southern col
But at the same time, you know, you're expected to
be able to find a way of improving in a
you know, short fashion and build that program back up.
And that's why again going back to this is a
crucial year to identify really where.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They are at this point.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So you've got one coach, he's at a new place
in Deshaun Foster. Things went a little bit awkward. You've
got another coach Lincoln Riley in a new place to
be continued. And then he got another coach with big
ten ties in a new place, and he is off
and running and in mid season form. Take it Away.
(09:56):
Jim Harbaugh, Chargers head coach, talking about what it's like
to be back at camp with his team.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Just the way it feels.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
I mean, it feels like New Year's Day, you know,
it feels like being born. Feels like coming out of
the womb. You know, it's like you're in there and
it's comfortable and it's safe, and and now you're out.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You're born.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
The lights are on, you know, it's bright, chaos, people
look people looking at you, people people talking at you,
and just feels good to you know, have it happen?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Absolute legend.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I just love me so much, man, I love him
so much, just because I don't know is that really him?
Or is that is he kind of playing it up
a little bit with the media because it feels like
he's not acting.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I don't think he's acting, and I don't think anyone
outside of those who are really really really close to him, no,
well enough to be able to tell the difference between
the two. That's the hard thing is he is he
has been this way for so long, from at least
the times that I've spoke with him for preparation for
a game or we've spoken with them in preparation for
a pregame show, and then everything else that you see
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out there, this is the standard, Like, this is what
he's been.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So I'm just happy to see him in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Where he'll get more exposure, we'll get more quotes like this,
and uh, he'll be missed at the college football level,
but there's a lot of personalities like this, I mean,
and we've been to the Big twelve media days, y're
the thoughts of Mike Gundy. I mean, he spoke a
lot of truth with some of the stuff he pointed
out and said. Now, people might not like it, or
they might not think it's politically correct, with with how
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he you know, phrased things with their running back and
that trumble he's gotten this offseason, but the truth of
the matter.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is he's not wrong. And that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
College football has plenty of personality and coaches who kind
of speak their mind in a more unique way, and
I missed that, and I'm glad I was starting to
see that at the NFL level, at least with Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Eight and a half. That's the over under for wins
for the Chargers this upcoming year, eight and.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
A half over over.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I just I feel like he understands how to maximize
the talents of the players he has. Like there's there's
a little bit of a like Bill Belichick effect where
where Bill would always, you know, the whole the whole
phrase do your job is It's funny that that was
the tag, you know, tagline or catchphrase because the reason
(12:23):
why that mantra was so impactful was because he asked
guys to do what they were good at. He didn't
he didn't sign, he didn't plug in players to jobs
that they couldn't do. He wanted to do what he
was asked them to do that that he believes they're
good at, and he wanted to do it as consistently
as possible, Like that was what he asked all those
players to do, and when he put them into the
(12:44):
different positions he had for them or the different package
he had for them, they could excel.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And and that.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
There's something to that. I think Jim Harbaugh has a
lot of that too with how he's able to coach
the team and maximize the sound of the players he's got.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's why when people were looking at Maddieluse for coach
of the Year because he was the favorite. I'm like,
hold on a second, Harbas sitting at plus nine fifty,
like over nine to one on DraftKings. Right now, he's
got an established quarterback, he's established as a head coach.
Like I'll take Harball, Like, give me Harbaugh for coach
of the Year. And look, I don't want to give
out our preseason predictions or our regular season predictions at
(13:19):
this point, but I'm letting you know right now there's
a real good chance you might hear the words I
like the Chargers to win the AFC West come out
of my mouth when we get to that point. I'm
letting you know right now.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm just not there, Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I think the Chiefs are, especially with what they brought
in on offense, with that speed, they are going to
scare the daylightside of everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, it didn't take them, and I do respect the
fact to try that in practice. You know, let's throw
a deep into what we got over there with Worthy
it didn't take him long. Oh it's fine.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
But I do respect the fact too they're getting some
like little fights here. Yeah, camp, It just lets you know, man,
it doesn't matter if it's Travis Kelsey George carlofftis like
two leaders on that team. Doesn't matter like that. It's competition,
it's heated. Look, I've been up there in sant Jo.
It gets hot this time of year, man, and you
get tired of practicing, going up against the same guys,
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and so emotions will fire up.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And I'm sure guys too are out there. I mean.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
And that's the thing, Like, you got a guy like
Travis Kelce who's already a first ballot future Hall of Famer,
Yet I look at him like, yeah, he's still hungry,
Like forget all the crap that's that's off the field
with Taylor Swift in his personal life. He's still on
the field as a dog, and he's still hungry. He's
willing to kind of, you know, you know, kind of
set the tone for some things. Basically for people who
are listening and don't know George Carl loftus, maybe he
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hits someone on the outside that you know, Kelsey didn't like.
Maybe how he had, I guess tackled the player at
that time, and it's sort of basically a fight on
the field between a bunch of guys on offensive defense.
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Speaker 3 (16:44):
At the MMQ bar.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer ab as the
training camp tour started yet, what are we looking at?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, In fact, you guys just woke me
up because I'm on the West coast. Oh probably not
from you, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Hello, Yeah, we feel we feel so bad for you, Albert.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
I know, I know, I know, I'm really taking one
for the team today.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, So which are you an OX start or
where are you at right now?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Yeah, I know I'm in I'm in West l A.
But I'm I went to Chargers yesterday. I was with
the Raiders the day before. We'll be with the Rams today.
There are five teams, as you guys know out here,
so then Cowboys on Friday and Saints on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, most impressive team so far that you've had a
chance to h to take a look.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
At that I've seen. Yes, I would say the Chargers
were more impressive.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Than the Raiders.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
The Raiders practice just visited with.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Do you see any babies being born.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
No, no baby is born yet.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, like, how's that
land with you? You're Ohio State. I seeing uh Dich again, coach,
get all that love from Charger fans.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
It's great to see him in the NFL. I'm all
for it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like I mean, so, I.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Mean, I like, it's uh, you know what, Honestly, guys
like like I he it was.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It was.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
It was really interesting seeing him back in an NFL
context and seeing how happy he is back in pro football.
And you know, I I remember like the way that
he was perceived leaving the Niners in twenty fourteen and
how that perception has changed, and you know, I like
it was interesting to see after after the way the
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Niners were when he left and kind of from the
turmoil that that that taking place there, seeing how the
Chargers are in complete lockstep now and how excited everybody
is to have them there, and how the players are
behind him. And I think that was the case of
the Niners too, from as far as the players went.
But you know, it's just it's it's it's it feels
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like he's re entering the league in a different context
at least way he's perceived then he left it, you know,
ten years ago so or nine years ago. So, Like
I I think you know what you're going to see
as a team that looks a lot like you know,
the teams that he's had over the years at Stanford,
San Francisco in Michigan. And I think the sort of
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buy in it at least it at least looks like
he's getting right away there should help facilitate getting that
sort of team pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I mean, he's going to be interesting to see how
the team responds to him because he's just such a
unique personality. I do want to kind of follow up
though on what you just said, because I kind of
go back to that run in San Francisco where things
weren't great after he left, and I know some blame
by forty nine Ers fans will probably go to Jed York,
the ownership group, but I feel like Trent Bulky also
was meddling in all of that. And as you kind
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of followed Trent Balky to where he's been, it seems
like there's always just something going on. There's always I
don't want to say it's a disaster but it feels
like maybe he's the one that's bringing the trauma. Maybe
he was the one to blame. Who knows if they
would have moved on from Bulky, if Harball would would
have ever even left the forty nine ers at that point.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Right, And I you know, I think, you know, you
look at the circumstances they had in San Francisco, well,
the team that was really really talented. Now, part of
it might have been to that group aged out a
little too, you know, Brady, but I don't think there's
much doubt that they would have probably kept finding found
a way to keep winning with Jim. Jim's won everywhere
he's gone, you know. I mean, even that last year,
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I believe, and I looked this up. I think they
were nine to seven that last year he was there.
They didn't make the playoffs, and it was you know,
it was a weird year for sure, but like it's
not like they were bad the bottom fell out after
he left, you know, So so yeah, I mean, I
think it's definitely one of those things where, you know,
when you look at the way people thought about it
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at the time and the way people looked at it
at the time, and then you know what history has
sort of shown us. You know, that's that's certainly changed
a lot too. You know, I think some people, you know,
looked at it back then because as Jim Harmo was
the forward station guy, that the guy that was, you know,
the public face of the team, a lot of people
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looked at it then as like, Okay, well is Jim
just difficult to deal with? You know? And now you
look at you know, what's happened with Trent since and
what's happened with Jim since? And maybe that's what.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Little Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
He is the senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at
the MMQB. Get him on X at Albert Brier. Albert,
speaking of Jim Harbo's former team, the forty nine Ers,
I thought you put this perfectly on X yesterday when
you said with Trent Williams to go along with Brandon
(21:45):
Aiyuk Brock perties deal coming up, that they've got champagne problems.
But it does feel like there's like a theme that
seemingly every off season there's somebody not happy with their
contractual situation there and and it sort of bleeds into
camp and then it becomes a storyline what's happening with
the Niners and how does this play out?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
You know, I think it's a result of the success
they've had, of course, you know, And you know, I
think with Trent, you know, which I don't know a
lot of people saw that when coming. That's more of
a result of a trend we're seeing across the league
where you know, in guys contracts are set up a
certain way, they're gonna want a correction, you know. I
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think you're seeing that with Tyreek Hill where his contracts
back voted, you know, certainly. You know, we saw it
with with Christian McCaffrey right there, you know, in San
Francisco earlier in the off season, saw with Matthew Stafford.
You know, Matthew Stafford wasn't happy with his contract and
the Rams were able to get something done there. So,
you know, I think these situations are a little different
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that like Trent, I think is you know, one of
these veteran players that is looking for a correction, and
you know, I think maybe players are a little more
savvy about that and they used to be where he
used to be. While I'm under contract for another three
years now, you know, those players look at it and say,
I don't know how much longer I'm gonna be playing.
I don't know how much longer my team's to be
(23:11):
willing to take me at this rate, So I better
get mine while I still can. And you know, if
you look at this contract again, like it sets up,
I believe it's twenty million this year, twenty three million
this year, and then over thirty million in the final
year of the deal. So could they move some money
around and move some money forward, So so Trent's getting
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getting his money a little faster to take care of this.
I certainly think there's a solution there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I use different because he's in a contract year and
he's looking for the first big payday of his career,
and so that one's I think a little bit more
complicated than the trend one that's not just moving money around,
you know, And so you know, I think that that
one's more analogous to Devout two years ago, to Nick
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Bose the last year, and the Niners have been through
this before. But look like I mean, this is just
the reality of where you are. If you play well,
if you draft ball, if you develop, all the Niners
have done all those things where you know, when you've
paid guys before, when you when you when you pay
guys before, the next guy is going to be looking
for his. And you know, there aren't that many teams
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that are in the situation because there aren't that many
teams that are talented as the Niners. But the one
day we've seen the last two years, they've been able
to weather the storm, you know, when it comes to
contact the studs and holdouts, and so you know, I
think their their intentional along is going to keep bringing
Egan the rouster. I think they love to have ayyuk
as you know, as as as Broad Party's number one
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receiver going forward, you know, especially as guys like McCaffrey
and Kittle and Devo get older. And so I think
it's their intention of sign long term and that's been
reflected in their offers. Whether they can do that under
their new context of the receiver market with Justin Jefferson
make thirty five, I think is a different story.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
What's interesting to me about this this subject is it
feels like they were cut off guard a little bit.
I mean, maybe maybe we're just not in the know
on the outside, and this there have been ongoing conversations,
specifically more with Trent Williams.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
But I mean they knew this with Brandon AYUK.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
But when you look at the contrast, for example, of
teams like the Lions, teams like the Eagles for example,
in the same conference, they seem to get business done,
like they just didn't allow this to be a distraction
once training camp. Comes my intuition, and just from knowing
John Lynch, I don't feel like he's the type either
that would want this to bleed into the trade, into
the training camp. So how have they gotten here? Like like,
(25:38):
was this just a surprise the old Trent Williams deal
for them, or even a UK you know, getting closer
to tru camp formally or publicly request in the trade?
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I think I again, I think they're sort of separate.
Like I think with AYUK. You can criticize the nine
Ers in the same way you got to criticize them
last year on Bosa, or you can say you should
have done as the year before. You know, you knew
this was coming, you knew the market wasn't gonna you know,
you knew the market was going to be changed by
you know, some conditions and in particular, you know, justin
(26:09):
Jefferson's deal getting done, and as they got closer to
you know, like the idea that Jefferson would get done,
and now you was in this draft class, you know
it was going to become more likely that you know,
you're gonna throw a wrench into the negotiation. And you're
right to bring up like the Eagles with DeVante Smith,
the Texans with Nego Collins, the Lions of the mon
(26:31):
Ross and Brown, the Dolphins of Jail and Model and
all those teams acted with urgency this offseason because they
knew that Jefferson deal was coming. So yeah, certainly I
think it's Sparita criticized the Niners there, but it does
take to to to to to do a deal. And
you know that's you know, you know that that that's
that that's part of our youth strategy too, is to
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see what happened with Jefferson. You know, I think Trent
is more again, like you know, I think it can
be a little reaction you know sometimes in the case
of these players, and you know, when Trent sees Christian
McCaffrey get a contract adjustment, and I do think like
the idea of adjusting McCaffrey's contract related to you, they
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knew they were going to have to get that done
before they did. IU and McCaffrey made noise about that
early in the off season, with how valuable he is
that team, and of course the shelf life of running
backs gives a submergency to do something. You know, Trent
Williams could look at that say well, I'm probably the
most indispensable player on this team, and I might be
the best player on this team. And I don't think
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he'd be necessarily wrong on either of those counts, you know,
so I think, you know, like again, it's sort of
TRENDI seeing on the league around the league with older
players who are still performing, And I do think Trent
seeing that happen with one of his teammates direct could
have directly affected his decision to hold out.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
so we've got Jordan Love who's holding in, Tua who
is holding in but still sort of yeah, like, I
don't know what what that is. And then I don't
know what Dak's plan is. But if you're looking at
the situation in order, how did these deals get done?
Who goes first, who gets it done last?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I think Love is first. I think too, Uh, the
two one's interesting and the two one's a little provocated.
It was good to hear Dax feel the decks decks,
that the deck negotiations had resumed, and you know, I
think there's there's a there's a chance like that gets
(28:37):
done before the season starts because of that. But I
would say Jordan loves the next one to go down.
And you know, then I think the tour of thing
is difficult, but I think they probably find a way
to do something before the season. And I'd say Dak
Dax s Field would be the wild card. You know,
I think where where Jordan Lufki is set the table
for the for for for Tua and I think Daks
(28:59):
are a separate from but where where Jordan Love can
set the table for Tua is And we've talked about this, guys,
like there's a there's a real difference between Joe Burrow's
deal and Trevor Lawrence's deal, despite the fact that you
know there's that number fifty five next to each of them,
and that Joe Burrow gets his cash a lot faster
and there's more guaranteed money in his deal. So where
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two where where Jordan loves deal like Lands from a
cash flow standpoint, because I expect that the number is
going to be in the mid fifties. There where we're
at Lands from a cash flow standpoint, and then where
at Lance from guaranteed money standpoint is relevant. And the
other thing that's relevant too here is all three of
those quarterbacks have you know, have agents that work for
(29:42):
the same agency. You know, they're they're all they're all
represented by athletes. First, they have separate individual agents, but
they those guys are all with the same agency, which
means there could be some I think teamwork there the
same way that there was. There's the same way there was
you know, between Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and those
guys keeping each other apprized of where where their negotiations
(30:04):
were at Jamar Chase's decision to wait until Jefferson got
a deal done.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Albert, I want to ask you about the potential of
an eighteen game season, as appears that the conversations are
starting to heat up. We hear the NFLPA side talk
about it. How soon could we be looking at eighteen games?
I mean it's next year. Realistic is a year after
that and then and what would be the construction of
the season.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Would they throw in an additional buy? If that's the case, I.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Think the networks are going to be hesitant to add
to buy now. Couldn't you know they look at the
makeup of the season the way it said something change
that maybe, you know. I think the idea of throwing
an extra bind there's always been a non star for
the networks because they don't want to water down Sunday anymore.
And when they did this in the past, I can't
(30:56):
remember it was twenty twenty five years ago, but there was
a time where there were two buys there and in
individual years it made it so like the inventory that
they would have for those Sunday windows really suffered for it.
And remember that was before you had them plucking games
(31:16):
away for Christmas, for Black Friday, for all those different things.
And so you know, the NFL doesn't listen to many people.
The NFL listens to was broadcast partners, and so they
would have to resolve that if they wanted to have
multiple bye weeks. But I do think it happened. I
do think the ageen game season happens, and the fact
(31:37):
that they're talking about it so openly it is interesting
and I think, you know, an indicator that the owners
would like to have it soon. And to me, like
the next checkpoint and cause the deadline whatever you want
is the opt out and the broadcast deals after twenty
twenty nine. You know, presumably they would like to go
(31:58):
to the market with the new bodcast deal. Seeing what
the NBA got, I think it's pretty much a certain out. O.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's just incredible. Well out, No, No, that what the
NBA got.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
I mean, do you look at it, because I mean,
considering there's no viewership, I mean there it's declining, yet
they still get almost three x you know, compared to
what they did before.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The NFL has to be like licking their lips over this, right.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
It's because the only thing anybody watches live anymore is sports, Brady,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I get that, But like, how do you how do
you make money from advertisers in linear television because you
do have two partners that are in the linear space,
when you have less people watching, how do you sell that?
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Well, you can say, I mean it's it's it's not
just like the linear space. Is also the ability to
stream it and get people to subscribe.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I get that, but that's only that's only one of
the three that I've right now gotten that deal.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Two are linear television partners. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I understand the inventory, you have eighty two games, I
get that, but still there's a viewer decline. I mean,
it feels like it's it's a desperation just to have
something that is a live sports there.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Right, We'll just have to put on the air that
people are going to actually watch, you know what I mean.
Like that's that's increasingly challenging for linear television networks. So
I mean, like that's that's a huge part of it,
you know what I mean. Like, and I think i'd
look like I you know, look, you're going to have
those streaming services fitting on this too. And and if
(33:28):
the NBA is getting three x with the NFL is
going to get of course they're going to opt out,
you know what I mean in twenty twenty nine to
find out where that number is going to go. And
I do think that like the NFL would like to
go to the market with these broadcast partners with an
eighteen games schedule to sell. The question is what they've
got to give the players to do that. And I
will say that it's like if i'm the players, like
(33:51):
do not do not like give away like offseason practices
like that's you should get way more than that, you
know what I mean? And I think I think the
answer for the players here has to be, well, if
you're going to do something that could potentially shorten our careers,
then you've got to give us something that's going to
make it easier for us to get paid. So I'm
(34:11):
talking about like finding a way maybe to get guys
a free agency after three years instead of four, maybe
loosening the rings up from it.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah, but there's but we'd how this works. There's always
a cause and effect. Like I always feel like that
train of thought is great. But then then the teams adjust,
and then so what do they start doing?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Then you know, they start putting in different things that
contracts to prevent that or to lessen the ability for
players to take advantage of that. I still I said
this earlier. I stand by this. This is one of
the last swings the NFL players get. And if they
take a big swing and say we need healthcare we
need that impacts all, Yeah, every generation of player.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
That's really important, you know, and you would hope right
that active players think that way, but you and I
both know that's not always been the case, you know
what I mean. Like that's also or the owners. The
owners have been able to take advantage of the players
in these negotiations a couple of different ways, Like you know,
like one of them is that, you know, active players
aren't always motivated to care of former players because the
(35:11):
twenty five year old might not see what this looks
like for himself at forty five, right, Like, so like
that's the problem, and you know they've been able to
take advantage of players in that like, well, you know,
veteran players are the ones that negotiate the CBA, so
they may not be motivated to help younger guys get
the free agency because they're already cast that point in
(35:31):
their career and maybe those they feel like those guys
would be taking money off the table that they could get,
you know. So there are all kinds of dynamics the
way that the NFL player population is that the league's
been able to take advantage of. And I think that
that's a challenge for the Lloyd how All, the new
executive director of the NFLPA, is to get guys a
(35:53):
big picture of these things, you know, and get guys
to think a different way, because there is a real
opportunity to take advantage of you know, the owner's desired
to get to eighteen games, and like you said, like
you know, I think, you know, if she can get
over that hurdle with some of the other guys, if
you've got to think that way like we you know,
I want to be chaking here for the rest of
(36:15):
my life from a healthcare perspective, like then, you know,
maybe they can get some of those things the players
in the past haven't been able to.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Get get them. On x AT, Albert Breer ab appreciated man,
Thanks for waking up early with us, and we'll do
it again next week.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
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Speaker 2 (36:42):
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Speaker 2 (37:22):
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Speaker 1 (37:24):
What even enough?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
There it? Please?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Or if they're out lead the lab? What do we got?
Speaker 9 (37:31):
All right?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You might have heard about it from Eddie.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Obviously we have the Olympic opening ceremonies tomorrow. But if
you want a little something, a little little something to
get your beak wet, we got United States versus Uruguay
and the men's rugby sevens.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Let's go rugby? Yeah out us? Hey you hey.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
We've also got USA versus Zombia and women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Let's go, ladies, Let's go.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
And if you watch some women's handball, we got Hungry
Hungry versus Fronts.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
And Jona State some handball, but in well, actually, who
was it hungry?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Do you guys like that sport handball? It's not like
the handball on the on the playground. It's you guys
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I don't even I should admit this. I was approached
by a guy who was going to try to put
together like a USA handball team, and they were looking
for a bunch of like former football players and athletes
to do it. I always send a ball and like
a promotional video, and I was like, all right, I
could see myself maybe wanted to do this, but I
was like.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I think I'm good.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm so I just from seeing what was on because
apparently we're just going to run a bunch of events
before the opening ceremonies. That makes sense, but seeing what
was on earlier. There's a net. So the difference between
this and the one we played on the playground growing
up is there's a net and a goalie in front
of the net. So it's like soccer but with your hands.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, it has nothing to do with what you would play.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
On the handball in the school ground. What are you
trying to describe that you play.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well handball on the school yard was you were on
the black top and there was a wall, like, yeah,
there was just you would just bounce it back.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
You bounce it.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
You do the credit card or the undercut. Yeah, there's
a whole bunch of different rules.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
We I mean we played the more physical version in Ohio.
You guys did something different.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Clearly, you know you're playing you're playing like a version
of racketball, which with your hand, which you're calling the
handball that way, right, This has been like the Olympic sport.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Often do it for a while, though.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I knew it way before.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So it goes back to high school.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Well, I I gotta remind myself every four years, Like
I actually think I if I'm not mistaken, I think
I introduced Brady to Olympic handball years ago.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
That might be. That might be true.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I mean it didn't definitely didn't happen during uh during
the summertime when I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Definitely not what.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Else we got Lee if you're looking for something else.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Circ Sola has got a documentary coming out on Prime
Video called Without a Net. It's basically a documentary on circus.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't care listen, get up there and entertain. I
don't want to hear your backstory.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Could care less. Just want to watch the USA dominate
the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Do you think USA dominates circ day so that it
doesn't matter? Okay, guys, what else we got? We have
chili dog day in.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's good. That's what I said. You love chili dog,
I know you do. I'm going to Schnitzel today.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm gonna get me that being Wiener Schnitzel and gonna
get me a chili dog and some Wiener Bruce.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Come on, I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Gonna be sick tomorrow. Guys, I'm not gonna be here.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
How late in the day are you gonna have a
chili dog?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Lee, I'm gonna have it between two and four o'clock
before Pool and Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
That'll blow through you. You're fine, have one later at night.
Let's see what happens. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I'm gonna do pants at the Moon
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Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,
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travel issues right now? Yeah, sleeping somewhere. I don't know
where Lee? Where is he by the wave?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
That's true?
Speaker 1 (00:53):
What was he? Was he going to stay college again
this weekend? Or what I knew?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
He had to fly into Philly and then I think
he's on his way to New Jersey.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Okay, well yeah that makes sense. I guess all that. Okay,
got you all right? Well listen, he's got you know,
he's got all sorts of family stuff, obligations, things going on.
So no worries. I'll be back on the show tomorrow.
We'll get all the travel stories from one Styx Arrington.
We'll see whether or not he was hostile again to
an airline employee. That was always a fun story to retell.
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So there's that.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
But it is fun to listen to LeVar recant that
story because I don't know that he denies. I guess
he kind of denies being hostile, but you know, you
could see how that could have gotten out of hand.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
I don't think he knows his own intimidation. You know,
it's like somebody that doesn't know their own strength. Like
I don't think he understands like when he addresses something,
maybe it does come off as hostile as opposed to
it would be different if somebody else said the exact
same thing in the exact same tone. So I think
maybe that's where he's not really understanding of the full
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Deshaun Foster, the viral I guess introduction to the Big
(02:25):
Ten that took place at Big Ten Media Days in
Indianapolis last yesterday, and it was not good, not a
great look. And so UCLA's first year in the Big
Ten off to a rocky start. Now on the flip
side of that, you've got Lincoln Riley and USC they
too are in the Big Ten. And Lincoln Riley spoke
yesterday about the progress of the program and also took
(02:49):
time to sort of share where he feels us is
when it comes to the Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
So fun to see the progress, the progress defensively, the
progress on the facilities of progress to our you know,
relationship with the administration, with jin and and and and
all the crew that she's brought in, which has been
great progress on I mean, you know, the roster, progress
on nil.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I mean, there's not any part of this that we're
not making progress on. And like I'm.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
Not the oldest coach, I haven't I haven't seen it all.
But I've been through this enough of these blue bloods
to know that the outside is always going to be sensationalized.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
One way or another. And but if you have a plan.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
And you stick to it and you stay steady. Then
then then you know that you're making progress in the
key areas that.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
You have to do it, that eventually it's going to
be what we want it to be. And that's what
we're doing right now.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
We are at the top of the Big Ten conference.
I mean we're at top of We're at the top.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Of any conference.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
I don't never look at ourselves below anybody, and I
never will. You know, listen, two years ago, looker Ohio
State and Oregon or two years ago, you know, look.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
What those Look what they took over.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Look what we took over.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You know, I mean, it's it takes time.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
You know, I'm not a magician.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I can't wave a magic wand and everything just be
perfect right away. But find one area that we had
made progress. So this thing's got momentum. It's coming. Nothing's
gonna stop it. That's fine. They start at a different point.
You know, we'll see where it ends up.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Your guy, Lincoln Riley yesterday at Big Ten Media Days.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
Boy, I tell you what, there will be some people
and then there already probably are who will be critical.
And then he pointed, he pointed to it.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
You know, when you're a.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
Head coach of a blue blood, you're gonna be criticized.
When you were a head coach who left Oklahoma for
another blue blood the way he did, you're gonna be criticized.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
But he brings about a lot of truth. I mean,
this is the most.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Probably transparent Lincoln Riley I've seen, at least since covering
the sport when he's taken over as a head coach,
dating back to Oklahoma, and he is drawing to light
a lot of things that I think have been smoking
merors for a while with some of the folks in
Southern California, and that's your facilities have lagged. They did
a stadium renovation that helped improve at least how the
(05:04):
Colosseum looks now, But the truth of the matter, even nil,
they haven't been competitive like people want to make it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Seem or appear that way.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
There's a lot of things that are floated out there
that we can dive deeper into. But the truth of
the matter is, I mean, Jordan Addison didn't get what
he was hoping for, being a bullet and a coff
winner going in joining Southern cow. The rumors and reports
that he was unhappy about a lot of things with
that or true. So you start hearing more about that
sort of thing and go, yeah, they're not where they
(05:34):
want to be. But to his point, they were taking
over a program that probably had more work to do
than many others. But it still is going to come
off like an excuse and to say that you're at
the top of the Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Look, we get to see it now.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
We get to see it year one, how much progress
they've truly made on the defensive side of the ball
on their roster. And I think more than anything else,
this year is going to be a big time stamp
of what this Lincoln Riley team is going to be
because of the quarterback, Miller Moss is going to play
within the system. He's not the type of guy that's
(06:10):
going to you know, buy time, create, try to scramble
around and play backyard football, where oftentimes you saw Caleb
Williams doing that And in fact, you know, sitting and
listening to Lincoln Riley talk during the Big Ten media days,
you got the sense that maybe there were some times
where he wished he would have played more than the
offense and that might have been a pressure point that
(06:32):
you know, wasn't great necessarily, whether it was with Lincoln Riley,
the staff or the team is KILEB. Williams kind of
went out and did his own thing. At least that's
an impression that I got from from some of the
comments that were made. So, you know, all in all,
when it boils down to it is this is a crucial,
critical year three for Lincoln Riley as far as what
Southern cal is going to be. And don't don't forget
(06:54):
too They've got an athletic director that did not hire
Lincoln Riley. So if things don't continue to prove and
it looks like he's not the right guy to help
lead them into the Big Ten. With this transition, there's
no ties to him outside of having to buy out
a ridiculously enormous contract that he was given on his
way walking in.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
So it feels like about two years ago there was
conversations about would he be the next guy to go
from college to the NFL? If like, how what is
from people you've talked to, what's the reputation or how
much of that could still happen for him if he decides,
(07:33):
you know, one year in the Big ten, you know, listen,
barring a complete disaster for USC, say they's somewhat competitive,
but not near the top of the heap as he
claims that they are. Is there still an interest based
on what he's done previously with quarterbacks in his programs
to maybe be an appeal from some NFL franchise to
(07:54):
want to hire him.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
There may be some interest, but I think he needs
to have a lot of success, and you know, if
he doesn't, it would lead him down the path of
like where does he go?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Then?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
You know, is there another opportunity maybe somewhere else, or
is it an offensive coordinator job? I mean, I think
someone would definitely be willing to hire him as an
offensive coordinator in the NFL. In regards to as a
head coach, it's hard to tell at this point. I mean,
you heard some of those rumors last year, and then
as the team fell flat on the face, those rumors disappeared.
He's a coach that, I believe, you know, inherited what
(08:27):
was a stable, blue blood program in Oklahoma that was
dominating the Big twelve, and he was able to uphold that. However,
if you look at kind of how that program has
fared after he left, you know, that's one of the
indications when you're a legend like Bob Stoops, looking how
the program was able to sustain itself when he left it.
You know, for Lincoln Riley, it wasn't the case at all.
(08:49):
You know, he pillsed it in some ways. He took
players with him. He you know, the defense started to
become decimated the.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Longer he was there as head coach.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
There wasn't as much of a focus on that, and
unfortunately for Southern cal Now, looking at what he inherited,
you could say, well, you know, yeah, that was a
program that was down. But go compare the first two
years of Clay Held in the first two years of
Lincoln Riley.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
How different really are they?
Speaker 5 (09:13):
So yes, the undertaking was dramatically different at Southern col
But at the same time, you know, you're expected to
be able to find a way of improving in a
you know, short fashion and build that program back up.
And that's why again going back to this is a
crucial year to identify really where.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
They are at this point.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So you've got one coach, he's at a new place
in Deshaun Foster. Things went a little bit awkward. You've
got another coach Lincoln Riley in a new place to
be continued. And then he got another coach with big
ten ties in a new place, and he is off
and running and in mid season form. Take it Away.
(09:56):
Jim Harbaugh, Chargers head coach, talking about what it's like
to be back at camp with his team.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Just the way it feels.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
I mean, it feels like New Year's Day, you know,
it feels like being born. Feels like coming out of
the womb. You know, it's like you're in there and
it's comfortable and it's safe, and and now you're out.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
You're born.
Speaker 8 (10:16):
The lights are on, you know, it's bright, chaos, people
look people looking at you, people people talking at you,
and just feels good to you know, have it happen?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Absolute legend.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I just love me so much, man, I love him
so much, just because I don't know is that really him?
Or is that is he kind of playing it up
a little bit with the media because it feels like
he's not acting.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
I don't think he's acting, and I don't think anyone
outside of those who are really really really close to him, no,
well enough to be able to tell the difference between
the two. That's the hard thing is he is he
has been this way for so long, from at least
the times that I've spoke with him for preparation for
a game or we've spoken with them in preparation for
a pregame show, and then everything else that you see
(11:05):
out there, this is the standard, Like, this is what
he's been.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
So I'm just happy to see him in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
Where he'll get more exposure, we'll get more quotes like this,
and uh, he'll be missed at the college football level,
but there's a lot of personalities like this, I mean,
and we've been to the Big twelve media days, y're
the thoughts of Mike Gundy. I mean, he spoke a
lot of truth with some of the stuff he pointed
out and said. Now, people might not like it, or
they might not think it's politically correct, with with how
(11:32):
he you know, phrased things with their running back and
that trumble he's gotten this offseason, but the truth of
the matter.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Is he's not wrong. And that's the thing.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
College football has plenty of personality and coaches who kind
of speak their mind in a more unique way, and
I missed that, and I'm glad I was starting to
see that at the NFL level, at least with Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
Eight and a half. That's the over under for wins
for the Chargers this upcoming year, eight and.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
A half over over.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I just I feel like he understands how to maximize
the talents of the players he has. Like there's there's
a little bit of a like Bill Belichick effect where
where Bill would always, you know, the whole the whole
phrase do your job is It's funny that that was
the tag, you know, tagline or catchphrase because the reason
(12:23):
why that mantra was so impactful was because he asked
guys to do what they were good at. He didn't
he didn't sign, he didn't plug in players to jobs
that they couldn't do. He wanted to do what he
was asked them to do that that he believes they're
good at, and he wanted to do it as consistently
as possible, Like that was what he asked all those
players to do, and when he put them into the
(12:44):
different positions he had for them or the different package
he had for them, they could excel.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
And and that.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
There's something to that. I think Jim Harbaugh has a
lot of that too with how he's able to coach
the team and maximize the sound of the players he's got.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
That's why when people were looking at Maddieluse for coach
of the Year because he was the favorite. I'm like,
hold on a second, Harbas sitting at plus nine fifty,
like over nine to one on DraftKings. Right now, he's
got an established quarterback, he's established as a head coach.
Like I'll take Harball, Like, give me Harbaugh for coach
of the Year. And look, I don't want to give
out our preseason predictions or our regular season predictions at
(13:19):
this point, but I'm letting you know right now there's
a real good chance you might hear the words I
like the Chargers to win the AFC West come out
of my mouth when we get to that point. I'm
letting you know right now.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Yeah, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I'm just not there, Okay.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
I think the Chiefs are, especially with what they brought
in on offense, with that speed, they are going to
scare the daylightside of everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yeah, it didn't take them, and I do respect the
fact to try that in practice. You know, let's throw
a deep into what we got over there with Worthy
it didn't take him long. Oh it's fine.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
But I do respect the fact too they're getting some
like little fights here. Yeah, camp, It just lets you know, man,
it doesn't matter if it's Travis Kelsey George carlofftis like
two leaders on that team. Doesn't matter like that. It's competition,
it's heated. Look, I've been up there in sant Jo.
It gets hot this time of year, man, and you
get tired of practicing, going up against the same guys,
(14:10):
and so emotions will fire up.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And I'm sure guys too are out there. I mean.
Speaker 5 (14:14):
And that's the thing, Like, you got a guy like
Travis Kelce who's already a first ballot future Hall of Famer,
Yet I look at him like, yeah, he's still hungry,
Like forget all the crap that's that's off the field
with Taylor Swift in his personal life. He's still on
the field as a dog, and he's still hungry. He's
willing to kind of, you know, you know, kind of
set the tone for some things. Basically for people who
are listening and don't know George Carl loftus, maybe he
(14:38):
hits someone on the outside that you know, Kelsey didn't like.
Maybe how he had, I guess tackled the player at
that time, and it's sort of basically a fight on
the field between a bunch of guys on offensive defense.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
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Speaker 1 (16:30):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
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Speaker 3 (16:44):
At the MMQ bar.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Get him on Twitter at Albert Breer ab as the
training camp tour started yet, what are we looking at?
Speaker 7 (16:51):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, In fact, you guys just woke me
up because I'm on the West coast. Oh probably not
from you, Jonas.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Hello, Yeah, we feel we feel so bad for you, Albert.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
I know, I know, I know, I'm really taking one
for the team today.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
All right, So which are you an OX start or
where are you at right now?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Yeah, I know I'm in I'm in West l A.
But I'm I went to Chargers yesterday. I was with
the Raiders the day before. We'll be with the Rams today.
There are five teams, as you guys know out here,
so then Cowboys on Friday and Saints on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Okay, most impressive team so far that you've had a
chance to h to take a look.
Speaker 7 (17:31):
At that I've seen. Yes, I would say the Chargers
were more impressive.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Than the Raiders.
Speaker 7 (17:37):
The Raiders practice just visited with.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Do you see any babies being born.
Speaker 7 (17:42):
No, no baby is born yet.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I mean, yeah, I was gonna say, like, how's that
land with you? You're Ohio State. I seeing uh Dich again, coach,
get all that love from Charger fans.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
It's great to see him in the NFL. I'm all
for it.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I mean, that's it.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like I mean, so, I.
Speaker 7 (18:04):
Mean, I like, it's uh, you know what, Honestly, guys
like like I he it was.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It was.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
It was really interesting seeing him back in an NFL
context and seeing how happy he is back in pro football.
And you know, I I remember like the way that
he was perceived leaving the Niners in twenty fourteen and
how that perception has changed, and you know, I like
it was interesting to see after after the way the
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Niners were when he left and kind of from the
turmoil that that that taking place there, seeing how the
Chargers are in complete lockstep now and how excited everybody
is to have them there, and how the players are
behind him. And I think that was the case of
the Niners too, from as far as the players went.
But you know, it's just it's it's it's it feels
(18:56):
like he's re entering the league in a different context
at least way he's perceived then he left it, you know,
ten years ago so or nine years ago. So, Like
I I think you know what you're going to see
as a team that looks a lot like you know,
the teams that he's had over the years at Stanford,
San Francisco in Michigan. And I think the sort of
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buy in it at least it at least looks like
he's getting right away there should help facilitate getting that
sort of team pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
I mean, he's going to be interesting to see how
the team responds to him because he's just such a
unique personality. I do want to kind of follow up
though on what you just said, because I kind of
go back to that run in San Francisco where things
weren't great after he left, and I know some blame
by forty nine Ers fans will probably go to Jed York,
the ownership group, but I feel like Trent Bulky also
was meddling in all of that. And as you kind
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of followed Trent Balky to where he's been, it seems
like there's always just something going on. There's always I
don't want to say it's a disaster but it feels
like maybe he's the one that's bringing the trauma. Maybe
he was the one to blame. Who knows if they
would have moved on from Bulky, if Harball would would
have ever even left the forty nine ers at that point.
Speaker 7 (20:10):
Right, And I you know, I think, you know, you
look at the circumstances they had in San Francisco, well,
the team that was really really talented. Now, part of
it might have been to that group aged out a
little too, you know, Brady, but I don't think there's
much doubt that they would have probably kept finding found
a way to keep winning with Jim. Jim's won everywhere
he's gone, you know. I mean, even that last year,
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I believe, and I looked this up. I think they
were nine to seven that last year he was there.
They didn't make the playoffs, and it was you know,
it was a weird year for sure, but like it's
not like they were bad the bottom fell out after
he left, you know, So so yeah, I mean, I
think it's definitely one of those things where, you know,
when you look at the way people thought about it
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at the time and the way people looked at it
at the time, and then you know what history has
sort of shown us. You know, that's that's certainly changed
a lot too. You know, I think some people, you know,
looked at it back then because as Jim Harmo was
the forward station guy, that the guy that was, you know,
the public face of the team, a lot of people
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looked at it then as like, Okay, well is Jim
just difficult to deal with? You know? And now you
look at you know, what's happened with Trent since and
what's happened with Jim since? And maybe that's what.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Little Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.
He is the senior NFL reporter lead content strategist at
the MMQB. Get him on X at Albert Brier. Albert,
speaking of Jim Harbo's former team, the forty nine Ers,
I thought you put this perfectly on X yesterday when
you said with Trent Williams to go along with Brandon
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Aiyuk Brock perties deal coming up, that they've got champagne problems.
But it does feel like there's like a theme that
seemingly every off season there's somebody not happy with their
contractual situation there and and it sort of bleeds into
camp and then it becomes a storyline what's happening with
the Niners and how does this play out?
Speaker 7 (22:08):
You know, I think it's a result of the success
they've had, of course, you know, And you know, I
think with Trent, you know, which I don't know a
lot of people saw that when coming. That's more of
a result of a trend we're seeing across the league
where you know, in guys contracts are set up a
certain way, they're gonna want a correction, you know. I
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think you're seeing that with Tyreek Hill where his contracts
back voted, you know, certainly. You know, we saw it
with with Christian McCaffrey right there, you know, in San
Francisco earlier in the off season, saw with Matthew Stafford.
You know, Matthew Stafford wasn't happy with his contract and
the Rams were able to get something done there. So,
you know, I think these situations are a little different
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that like Trent, I think is you know, one of
these veteran players that is looking for a correction, and
you know, I think maybe players are a little more
savvy about that and they used to be where he
used to be. While I'm under contract for another three
years now, you know, those players look at it and say,
I don't know how much longer I'm gonna be playing.
I don't know how much longer my team's to be
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willing to take me at this rate, So I better
get mine while I still can. And you know, if
you look at this contract again, like it sets up,
I believe it's twenty million this year, twenty three million
this year, and then over thirty million in the final
year of the deal. So could they move some money
around and move some money forward, So so Trent's getting
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getting his money a little faster to take care of this.
I certainly think there's a solution there.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You know.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
I use different because he's in a contract year and
he's looking for the first big payday of his career,
and so that one's I think a little bit more
complicated than the trend one that's not just moving money around,
you know, And so you know, I think that that
one's more analogous to Devout two years ago, to Nick
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Bose the last year, and the Niners have been through
this before. But look like I mean, this is just
the reality of where you are. If you play well,
if you draft ball, if you develop, all the Niners
have done all those things where you know, when you've
paid guys before, when you when you when you pay
guys before, the next guy is going to be looking
for his. And you know, there aren't that many teams
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that are in the situation because there aren't that many
teams that are talented as the Niners. But the one
day we've seen the last two years, they've been able
to weather the storm, you know, when it comes to
contact the studs and holdouts, and so you know, I
think their their intentional along is going to keep bringing
Egan the rouster. I think they love to have ayyuk
as you know, as as as Broad Party's number one
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receiver going forward, you know, especially as guys like McCaffrey
and Kittle and Devo get older. And so I think
it's their intention of sign long term and that's been
reflected in their offers. Whether they can do that under
their new context of the receiver market with Justin Jefferson
make thirty five, I think is a different story.
Speaker 5 (25:03):
What's interesting to me about this this subject is it
feels like they were cut off guard a little bit.
I mean, maybe maybe we're just not in the know
on the outside, and this there have been ongoing conversations,
specifically more with Trent Williams.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
But I mean they knew this with Brandon AYUK.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
But when you look at the contrast, for example, of
teams like the Lions, teams like the Eagles for example,
in the same conference, they seem to get business done,
like they just didn't allow this to be a distraction
once training camp. Comes my intuition, and just from knowing
John Lynch, I don't feel like he's the type either
that would want this to bleed into the trade, into
the training camp. So how have they gotten here? Like like,
(25:38):
was this just a surprise the old Trent Williams deal
for them, or even a UK you know, getting closer
to tru camp formally or publicly request in the trade?
Speaker 7 (25:48):
I think I again, I think they're sort of separate.
Like I think with AYUK. You can criticize the nine
Ers in the same way you got to criticize them
last year on Bosa, or you can say you should
have done as the year before. You know, you knew
this was coming, you knew the market wasn't gonna you know,
you knew the market was going to be changed by
you know, some conditions and in particular, you know, justin
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Jefferson's deal getting done, and as they got closer to
you know, like the idea that Jefferson would get done,
and now you was in this draft class, you know
it was going to become more likely that you know,
you're gonna throw a wrench into the negotiation. And you're
right to bring up like the Eagles with DeVante Smith,
the Texans with Nego Collins, the Lions of the mon
(26:31):
Ross and Brown, the Dolphins of Jail and Model and
all those teams acted with urgency this offseason because they
knew that Jefferson deal was coming. So yeah, certainly I
think it's Sparita criticized the Niners there, but it does
take to to to to to do a deal. And
you know that's you know, you know that that that's
that that's part of our youth strategy too, is to
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see what happened with Jefferson. You know, I think Trent
is more again, like you know, I think it can
be a little reaction you know sometimes in the case
of these players, and you know, when Trent sees Christian
McCaffrey get a contract adjustment, and I do think like
the idea of adjusting McCaffrey's contract related to you, they
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knew they were going to have to get that done
before they did. IU and McCaffrey made noise about that
early in the off season, with how valuable he is
that team, and of course the shelf life of running
backs gives a submergency to do something. You know, Trent
Williams could look at that say well, I'm probably the
most indispensable player on this team, and I might be
the best player on this team. And I don't think
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he'd be necessarily wrong on either of those counts, you know,
so I think, you know, like again, it's sort of
TRENDI seeing on the league around the league with older
players who are still performing, And I do think Trent
seeing that happen with one of his teammates direct could
have directly affected his decision to hold out.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Albert Brier joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. All right,
so we've got Jordan Love who's holding in, Tua who
is holding in but still sort of yeah, like, I
don't know what what that is. And then I don't
know what Dak's plan is. But if you're looking at
the situation in order, how did these deals get done?
Who goes first, who gets it done last?
Speaker 7 (28:15):
I think Love is first. I think too, Uh, the
two one's interesting and the two one's a little provocated.
It was good to hear Dax feel the decks decks,
that the deck negotiations had resumed, and you know, I
think there's there's a there's a chance like that gets
(28:37):
done before the season starts because of that. But I
would say Jordan loves the next one to go down.
And you know, then I think the tour of thing
is difficult, but I think they probably find a way
to do something before the season. And I'd say Dak
Dax s Field would be the wild card. You know,
I think where where Jordan Lufki is set the table
for the for for for Tua and I think Daks
(28:59):
are a separate from but where where Jordan Love can
set the table for Tua is And we've talked about this, guys,
like there's a there's a real difference between Joe Burrow's
deal and Trevor Lawrence's deal, despite the fact that you
know there's that number fifty five next to each of them,
and that Joe Burrow gets his cash a lot faster
and there's more guaranteed money in his deal. So where
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two where where Jordan loves deal like Lands from a
cash flow standpoint, because I expect that the number is
going to be in the mid fifties. There where we're
at Lands from a cash flow standpoint, and then where
at Lance from guaranteed money standpoint is relevant. And the
other thing that's relevant too here is all three of
those quarterbacks have you know, have agents that work for
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the same agency. You know, they're they're all they're all
represented by athletes. First, they have separate individual agents, but
they those guys are all with the same agency, which
means there could be some I think teamwork there the
same way that there was. There's the same way there was
you know, between Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase and those
guys keeping each other apprized of where where their negotiations
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were at Jamar Chase's decision to wait until Jefferson got
a deal done.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Albert, I want to ask you about the potential of
an eighteen game season, as appears that the conversations are
starting to heat up. We hear the NFLPA side talk
about it. How soon could we be looking at eighteen games?
I mean it's next year. Realistic is a year after
that and then and what would be the construction of
the season.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
Would they throw in an additional buy? If that's the case, I.
Speaker 7 (30:35):
Think the networks are going to be hesitant to add
to buy now. Couldn't you know they look at the
makeup of the season the way it said something change
that maybe, you know. I think the idea of throwing
an extra bind there's always been a non star for
the networks because they don't want to water down Sunday anymore.
And when they did this in the past, I can't
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remember it was twenty twenty five years ago, but there was
a time where there were two buys there and in
individual years it made it so like the inventory that
they would have for those Sunday windows really suffered for it.
And remember that was before you had them plucking games
(31:16):
away for Christmas, for Black Friday, for all those different things.
And so you know, the NFL doesn't listen to many people.
The NFL listens to was broadcast partners, and so they
would have to resolve that if they wanted to have
multiple bye weeks. But I do think it happened. I
do think the ageen game season happens, and the fact
(31:37):
that they're talking about it so openly it is interesting
and I think, you know, an indicator that the owners
would like to have it soon. And to me, like
the next checkpoint and cause the deadline whatever you want
is the opt out and the broadcast deals after twenty
twenty nine. You know, presumably they would like to go
(31:58):
to the market with the new bodcast deal. Seeing what
the NBA got, I think it's pretty much a certain out. O.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
That's just incredible. Well out, No, No, that what the
NBA got.
Speaker 5 (32:11):
I mean, do you look at it, because I mean,
considering there's no viewership, I mean there it's declining, yet
they still get almost three x you know, compared to
what they did before.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
The NFL has to be like licking their lips over this, right.
Speaker 7 (32:22):
It's because the only thing anybody watches live anymore is sports, Brady,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (32:28):
I get that, But like, how do you how do
you make money from advertisers in linear television because you
do have two partners that are in the linear space,
when you have less people watching, how do you sell that?
Speaker 7 (32:39):
Well, you can say, I mean it's it's it's not
just like the linear space. Is also the ability to
stream it and get people to subscribe.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
I get that, but that's only that's only one of
the three that I've right now gotten that deal.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Two are linear television partners. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
I understand the inventory, you have eighty two games, I
get that, but still there's a viewer decline. I mean,
it feels like it's it's a desperation just to have
something that is a live sports there.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
Right, We'll just have to put on the air that
people are going to actually watch, you know what I mean.
Like that's that's increasingly challenging for linear television networks. So
I mean, like that's that's a huge part of it,
you know what I mean. Like, and I think i'd
look like I you know, look, you're going to have
those streaming services fitting on this too. And and if
(33:28):
the NBA is getting three x with the NFL is
going to get of course they're going to opt out,
you know what I mean in twenty twenty nine to
find out where that number is going to go. And
I do think that like the NFL would like to
go to the market with these broadcast partners with an
eighteen games schedule to sell. The question is what they've
got to give the players to do that. And I
will say that it's like if i'm the players, like
(33:51):
do not do not like give away like offseason practices
like that's you should get way more than that, you
know what I mean? And I think I think the
answer for the players here has to be, well, if
you're going to do something that could potentially shorten our careers,
then you've got to give us something that's going to
make it easier for us to get paid. So I'm
(34:11):
talking about like finding a way maybe to get guys
a free agency after three years instead of four, maybe
loosening the rings up from it.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Yeah, but there's but we'd how this works. There's always
a cause and effect. Like I always feel like that
train of thought is great. But then then the teams adjust,
and then so what do they start doing?
Speaker 5 (34:27):
Then you know, they start putting in different things that
contracts to prevent that or to lessen the ability for
players to take advantage of that. I still I said
this earlier. I stand by this. This is one of
the last swings the NFL players get. And if they
take a big swing and say we need healthcare we
need that impacts all, Yeah, every generation of player.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
That's really important, you know, and you would hope right
that active players think that way, but you and I
both know that's not always been the case, you know
what I mean. Like that's also or the owners. The
owners have been able to take advantage of the players
in these negotiations a couple of different ways, Like you know,
like one of them is that, you know, active players
aren't always motivated to care of former players because the
(35:11):
twenty five year old might not see what this looks
like for himself at forty five, right, Like, so like
that's the problem, and you know they've been able to
take advantage of players in that like, well, you know,
veteran players are the ones that negotiate the CBA, so
they may not be motivated to help younger guys get
the free agency because they're already cast that point in
(35:31):
their career and maybe those they feel like those guys
would be taking money off the table that they could get,
you know. So there are all kinds of dynamics the
way that the NFL player population is that the league's
been able to take advantage of. And I think that
that's a challenge for the Lloyd how All, the new
executive director of the NFLPA, is to get guys a
(35:53):
big picture of these things, you know, and get guys
to think a different way, because there is a real
opportunity to take advantage of you know, the owner's desired
to get to eighteen games, and like you said, like
you know, I think, you know, if she can get
over that hurdle with some of the other guys, if
you've got to think that way like we you know,
I want to be chaking here for the rest of
(36:15):
my life from a healthcare perspective, like then, you know,
maybe they can get some of those things the players
in the past haven't been able to.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Get get them. On x AT, Albert Breer ab appreciated man,
Thanks for waking up early with us, and we'll do
it again next week.
Speaker 7 (36:29):
All right.
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So there it is. It is Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe on Fox Sports Radio, Brady Quinn, Jonas
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Speaker 2 (36:42):
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Speaker 1 (36:54):
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Speaker 2 (37:22):
Two Pros and a cup of show.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
What even enough?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
There it? Please?
Speaker 1 (37:28):
Or if they're out lead the lab? What do we got?
Speaker 9 (37:31):
All right?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Guys?
Speaker 1 (37:31):
You might have heard about it from Eddie.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
Obviously we have the Olympic opening ceremonies tomorrow. But if
you want a little something, a little little something to
get your beak wet, we got United States versus Uruguay
and the men's rugby sevens.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
Let's go rugby? Yeah out us? Hey you hey.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
We've also got USA versus Zombia and women's soccer.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Let's go, ladies, Let's go.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
I'm in.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
And if you watch some women's handball, we got Hungry
Hungry versus Fronts.
Speaker 5 (38:06):
And Jona State some handball, but in well, actually, who
was it hungry?
Speaker 3 (38:11):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Do you guys like that sport handball? It's not like
the handball on the on the playground. It's you guys
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
I don't even I should admit this. I was approached
by a guy who was going to try to put
together like a USA handball team, and they were looking
for a bunch of like former football players and athletes
to do it. I always send a ball and like
a promotional video, and I was like, all right, I
could see myself maybe wanted to do this, but I
was like.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
I think I'm good.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
I'm so I just from seeing what was on because
apparently we're just going to run a bunch of events
before the opening ceremonies. That makes sense, but seeing what
was on earlier. There's a net. So the difference between
this and the one we played on the playground growing
up is there's a net and a goalie in front
of the net. So it's like soccer but with your hands.
Speaker 4 (38:58):
Yeah, it has nothing to do with what you would play.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
On the handball in the school ground. What are you
trying to describe that you play.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Well handball on the school yard was you were on
the black top and there was a wall, like, yeah,
there was just you would just bounce it back.
Speaker 7 (39:11):
You bounce it.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
You do the credit card or the undercut. Yeah, there's
a whole bunch of different rules.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
We I mean we played the more physical version in Ohio.
You guys did something different.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Clearly, you know you're playing you're playing like a version
of racketball, which with your hand, which you're calling the
handball that way, right, This has been like the Olympic sport.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
Often do it for a while, though.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
I knew it way before.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
So it goes back to high school.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
Well, I I gotta remind myself every four years, Like
I actually think I if I'm not mistaken, I think
I introduced Brady to Olympic handball years ago.
Speaker 3 (39:39):
That might be. That might be true.
Speaker 5 (39:40):
I mean it didn't definitely didn't happen during uh during
the summertime when I was in high school.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Definitely not what.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
Else we got Lee if you're looking for something else.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:50):
Circ Sola has got a documentary coming out on Prime
Video called Without a Net. It's basically a documentary on circus.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't care listen, get up there and entertain. I
don't want to hear your backstory.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Could care less. Just want to watch the USA dominate
the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Do you think USA dominates circ day so that it
doesn't matter? Okay, guys, what else we got? We have
chili dog day in.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
It's good. That's what I said. You love chili dog,
I know you do. I'm going to Schnitzel today.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
I'm gonna get me that being Wiener Schnitzel and gonna
get me a chili dog and some Wiener Bruce.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Come on, I'm.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
Gonna be sick tomorrow. Guys, I'm not gonna be here.
Speaker 7 (40:36):
Now.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
How late in the day are you gonna have a
chili dog?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Lee, I'm gonna have it between two and four o'clock
before Pool and Wolverine.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
That'll blow through you. You're fine, have one later at night.
Let's see what happens. Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
I'm gonna do pants at the Moon
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