July 31, 2024 • 37 mins
The Jets sitting Aaron Rodgers throughout the preseason sets a soft precedent. The Patriots are disrespecting their best player in Matthew Judon. Plus, ugliness in Paris for the Olympics.
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
No Brady Quinn traveling back from Paris. You know, he
was out there for the Olympics supporting his wife who
was helping out with the US women's gymnastic gymnastics team.
Easy for me to say. They took home the in group.
So all is well, everybody's happy, and Brady will be
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towards the end of the hour, a really disgusting thing
(01:27):
that is happening at the Olympics, Lee, we didn't have
time to get it. And in case you missed it,
but do you want to go ahead and share the
details on this because I'm sure LeVar is going to
feel a certain kind of way about this story.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes, that is right, because once I saw the story,
I knew LeVar had to hear it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So in case you missed this.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
American triathlon competitor Seth Wrider American by the way, Yeah,
American triathlon competitor Seth Writer has been working hard to
prepare for the Olympics in Paris. He's gone so far
as to even stop washing his hands after using the
toilet in order to prepare for the E coli that
he would be in contact with in the sen River.
He said this, we know that there's going to be
(02:08):
ecoli exposure, so I just try to increase my ecoli
threshold by exposing myself a bit to E coli on
my day to day life. It's actually backed by science
proven methods, just little things throughout your day, like not
washing your hands after you go to the bathroom and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
How about that bar? What do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
About it sounds of what Q was saying, that that
body of water look like if they're using that same
body of water that we've been discussing. I just think
that that's not even that's not even feasible to think
that you've done enough to be prepared for swimming in
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that water and for what it's worth. I don't understand
how I mean, I don't know if that's what you
have to do in your preparation. How about there, let's
start right there. If that's what you have to do
to prepare for what you're about to do to compete,
something is wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Something is wrong.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
If if you're if, if you're if it's not physically
the case that's being challenged, but it's it's like sanitarily
challenging you. It's it's like, what if what if something
I don't know, man, what what if you had some
(03:29):
type of illness or something that came about that was
life changing forever.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
For what like the chance to get a gold medal?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Like I don't I don't think so man, I don't
that doesn't that doesn't add up to me.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, this is a nice story by this guy
to say this is all about preparation. He's disguising the
fact that he's a slob.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
This is is that how you feel about.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
He's a foul, disgusting human being who doesn't wash his
hands after he takes a.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Crap and now had a reason to say why he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's like that same guy.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I mean, we talk about this all the time, about
being in restaurants and going to the restroom and the
toilet flushes and you know it just got blown up. Yes,
and they just walk out, like put their hand on
the door handle, go right on back out. They'll shake
somebody's hand on the way, high five, somebody start eating
(04:29):
their food with their hands. Like this happens all the time,
So I'm not I'm not shocking.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's like it's like the guy, Like I love when
people try and disguise what the real reason is with
like you know something that that shows you know, real grit,
a real method to their madness, like something that's advanced,
like there was this guy. It just came out like
when they did the opening ceremonies. Somebody from on the
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Italian Olympic team they dropped. The story was they dropped
their wedding ring in the river, and so posted a
message on social media talking about how devastated they were,
how much they loved their wife. It's a heartbreaking moment
and apologizing through and through blah blah blah blah blah.
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That's code for I threw that bastard into the water
because I'm gonna go out and get loose, and you
know what, I don't want anybody seeing that ring on
my finger and thinking, you know what, I don't want
to be hamstrung by this whole thing. So that he
could try and sit here and say, well, it was
just by accident and no, no, no, there was a method.
You had something else going on. I don't buy it
for a second. People are full of crab man, and
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apparently this guy's full of crab and doesn't wash.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
After he'scho Yeah. Literally.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
By the way, who knew Jimmer Ferdette was on the
three on three US men's basketball team. How about that?
Good for Jimmerferdett. He used to play like prison inmates.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Didn't even know that they had three on three basketball
in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The things you learned, man, you know, all for a
gold medal.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Things people do, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So with that being said, this is something that I
know is near and dear to your heart, LeVar. You've
been wondering, like you have been, like literally like every
single day, sending a text message, Hey, is he gonna play?
Is he gonna play? Are they going to be? We
talked last hour about Kayleb Williams and the Bear starters
not playing in the preseason opener, the Hall of Fame
(06:27):
game coming up on Thursday. LeVar has been really really
into whether or not Aaron Rodgers is going to play
in the preseason, like he has demanded answers, and so
Robert Sala stepped out yesterday and spoke about his decision.
Will he played any preseason since.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
We haven't really talked about it. My instinct right now
as I stand here is we'll see.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We'll see is no.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
But but I want to leave it open that that
third game is the one where we're designed. So he
definitely won't play the first two, But the discussion on
the third one we just haven't quite had yet.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So he's leaning towards not playing him in the preseason. Now,
this is I believe my math is correct on this.
So let's just say hypothetically they go by what Robert,
but Robert Stala's instinct is, which is to not play
him in the preseason. So what you're telling me is
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that he's had fourteen snaps preseason included last year in
a year and a half, fourteen snaps, and the first
time back, you want it in real time against the
Niners on Monday Night to open up the year on
the road. Look, I get that he's one of the
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greatest of all time, but wouldn't you at least want
to like dust off the cobwebs in a preseason game
or two before you get out there and have to
deal with the Niners and Nick Bosa and Fred Warner
and those murderers in San Francisco. Your first game back.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Well, I mean, he didn't see it fit to be
at mini camp.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
I mean, why do you need the preseason? Let's just
get to it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Enough with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Is it gonna be an unexcused absence for the pre preseason?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Say?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Why didn't he just go to Egypt? Right now? That's
four weeks, that's a month.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Put your hand upon e JYPS.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
We did stupid.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Hey, man, listen, I don't know, man, Like, at some
point somebody's going to have.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
To explain to me what this is all about.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Like, I really believe that we've gotten to a point.
And I've said this before, and I don't like the
venture outside of the parameters of sport, just because I
just don't want to have those types of conversations. I
don't I have them in my private life. I do
not have them in public forms because people can handle
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the truth and I don't like getting caught up into
those types of conversations. Our society has weakened. You could
see it in the obesity level. You can see it
in the enrollment of our armed forces. You can see
it in the decline in our first responders. There are
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so many different things that can can show you that
you can identify that we have become very, very soft.
You know, physical education used to be a requirement to
do basically basic training. When you were in in school
(10:05):
and doing PHIZZAD, it was almost like you were preparing
to go to war.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
In gym class. That doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I feel like our culture has gotten so our society
has gotten so soft. And that's me keeping it light
because all this other stuff seeing you know, dudes walk
out of women's bathrooms and stuff like that, and all
this stuff going on, that's just buffoonery and just total
(10:38):
utter confusion to me as to what the identities of
these people are and the people who are raising them.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
What are your identities?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I feel like our society has gotten super super soft.
It's crazy soft, and you see it popping up in
places where it shouldn't pop up.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I really believe.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
The idea of thinking that it's too risky to do
your job, Like, let me rephrase that. No, no, no,
I don't want to rephrase it. Let me phrase it,
let me state it again. So you're telling me that
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it's too risky to allow this person to do their job.
Just let it sink in, man, Like I don't. I
don't get it. Like I understand, the preseason serves its purpose,
and the preseason, generally speaking, is to give guys the
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opportunity to make the roster. We stated that in the
first hour, but the preseason is also in my estimation
from what I gathered when I played and before I played,
and when I watched as a fan, the preseason is
also for the starters to get live reps against other teams.
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That's what the preseason was. It's it's these are games
where you can get live reps perfect like timing, like
quarterbacks can actually get hit, you know, players can.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Get tackled live reps.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
By a different team, so that you could get your
timing down, so that you can get film that you
can go figure, you could actually study to work on
what it is that you need to improve upon. And
the games don't count, so you can make those mistakes
and you have the opportunity to get those corrections. By
(12:51):
the time you get to the third preseason game, your
starters are in pretty good condition and they can play
all the way into.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
The third quarter.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
They'll play the whole first half, and they'll play a
series or two, maybe a series in the in the
second half, and then they come out. That's how it's
always been, and it's turned into something totally different. And
to think that it's it's like for what for what
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is it because of the concussions epidemic? Is it because
of the amount of money they're paying these guys?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like, what is it really that you're saying to me
that their job, the job that they're getting paid millions
of dollars to do.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
We're not going to have them do their job for what.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
It makes absolutely zero sense to me that this is
where football has gotten that guys don't play. Oh, he
may get hurt, there's no reason to risk it. What's
the benefit of it, Well, then don't have the game.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It's kind of wild to think about that entire like
how many jobs because like, let's just say the entire staff.
And I forget who it was that brought this up recently,
but they said one of the parts that doesn't get
talked about a lot is that when a coach gets fired,
there's always people calling for jobs. Like it might have
been Dave Wantstet in an interview I heard say this once,
(14:28):
but he said, you know what a lot of people
don't talk about is when a coach gets fired, it's
not just the coach who gets fired that the fans
are calling for. It's all of the people on his staff,
people who maybe aren't making you know, a significant amount
of money, that all of a sudden they're being uprooted,
Like financially they're in a different spot than this coach
who's getting millions, and like there's a lot of people
(14:50):
impacted by somebody losing their job in sports, like a coach.
So basically what Robert Sala is saying is that this
entire organization and dozens of jobs all are depending on
Aaron Rodgers' body being healthy, is basically what he's saying. Like,
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because if Rogers is hurt and they put together a
season like they did last year, everybody's gone and everybody
there knows it. So it almost feels like they've got
him bubble wrapped just to get to the season and
then well, whatever happens happens, and I look at it
and go, yeah, but wouldn't you feel like if you
were coming you you ruptured your achilles when you were
(15:35):
coming back from your Achilles, Like, wouldn't you know want
I know, but like if you were going to come back, like,
wouldn't you want at least like some preseason action, like
just just just to know before you get to real
game action.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Zonus, it's his job.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Like what I don't, I don't, I don't understand, Like
this seems so foreign to me.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Like I guess I'm old school.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I guess I'm outdated, and I guess the way I
think is not feasible or sensible.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It's my job.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
I'm preparing all off season. I should be able to
go in there and play. I should want to go
in there and play. I should need to go in
there and play. I should have to go in there
and play because it's my job. Like I don't care
(16:39):
like somebody is here to replace me. Somebody here is
trying to replace me. I'm going to do my job,
and I'm going to try to do my job at
the highest level, and I'm going to do what's asked
of me.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to deliver that.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Whether I'm a first ballot, bonafide Hall of Famer, whether
I'm Patrick Mahomes, and my body of work.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
It's solidified. It's my job.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It's my job. And by the way, it is what
they call what's that, what's it called? Oh yeah, a
full contact sport. It's a full contact sport, which, by
the way, the rules have been altered so much at
this point that quarterbacks barely have much to worry about
(17:28):
to concern themselves with, and yet instill you're nervous about
the idea that he could get injured playing limited reps.
I just like, to me, it sets a precedence that
that is unbelievable. It's unbelievable to me. Like it's soft.
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It's just soft. It's a soft approach. It's a scared approach.
It's a cautious approach. It's a safer approach. And if
that's what you're going to do in football, you know,
I don't know, man, Like we used to. It used
to be a sport that you actually compared to the military,
Like we're going to war out here, you know where
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I'm a soldier Da da dad, this, that and the other. Like, man,
I don't know about all that anymore. Man, it's just
this kind of it's just different. Man, It's just the
whole idea of it is just very different now.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
It's just different. So I don't know. I'm not mad
about it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I'm just saying it's weird to me to think that
your job is to play ball, So why aren't you playing?
Like nobody's saying you got to play four quarters? But
you're telling me we're not going to use Caleb Williams,
who is a rookie. We're not going to use him
at all because there's no reason, the risk getting him hurt.
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It's weird to me, man, it just sounds weird to me.
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So the Matthew Judon situation with the New England Patriots
is getting a little bit I guess a little bit, yeah, dice,
it would be a good word. Uh, you know, a
little bit more uneasy for everybody involved. He was not
at practice yesterday For the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
To say he's arguably their best player.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
H yeah, I would say that's probably fair. I mean,
he's coming off the injury, but he's been a great sign.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But he's I mean he's he's been their most who's
been more productive than him when he's on the field, I.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Would say it's him. Yeah, he's been great and he
was one of those guys that they gave a big
money deal to which was rare back then. But he's
played really well and he's coming off the injury and
last year he had, you know, an issue with his
contract and they were able to sweeten the platform and
Belichick gave him a little bit more for him to
come back because he felt like he had outplayed his contract,
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which he probably has. He was not at practice yesterday
following a back and forth exchange with Drawd Mayo, the
head coach the day before. He then went over and
had you know, a conversation with Executive VP of Player
Personnel Elliott Wolfood. Practice it well too, and so this
is all contract related, but it appears that New England
(22:42):
is not ready to do anything to kind of sweeten
the pot on his deal this year like they did
last year. And so you know, Matthew Judon spoke recently
on the Shut Up Mark podcast and talked about the
situation and what he doesn't like about football.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
I love football the basin. It's the football, Like I said, like,
I don't want to be the feeling. I don't want
to be the bad guy. But it's like, shoot, bro, like,
help me out. We got the most cap in the
league right now, bro, Like, and then with that, like
they don't even get the money, so what the what the.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Hell are y'all doing with it?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Like y'all literally is just not using it, I have
a tough decision.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's hard for them.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
It's hard to know who to get the money to,
when to give it the money to, where, how much.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
There's a lot of stuff that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Go along with that.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
But I wrote out my own contract and sent it
to him.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
They just ain't respond. So that's his take on the
situation with New England. And I do wonder if, like
if you were to look around the Patriots right now.
Obviously it's a it's a brand new era of Patriots football.
Belichick's gone, but you know they did. It's not like
they haven't given money out like they've They've paid a
couple of guys this offseason. I believe Jabrill Pepper's got
(23:56):
a contract extension, got a new three year deal, if
I'm not mistaken. I think Darrisaw also got uh got
some money as well too. And so Matthew Judon's coming
off the injury. I wonder if it's just better at
this point just to move him and try and get
something back, Like there's teams that are going to be
in the market for a DN like he's he's a
(24:16):
good player when he's healthy. I wonder if that's where
the Patriots look at this and go listen, man, we
don't need this if we're trying to start this new
era of Patriots football. It just feels like, you know,
it's already turned into an issue that's been seen and
recorded and documented in practice. Maybe it's time to.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Move on who Everybody has their own approaches to how
they feel their their business should be handled. As I
mentioned in the first uh the first segment of this hour,
this is your job, you know, this is this is
what you're this is what you get paid to do.
(24:57):
And I think there's certain levels of engagement and the
way that that it should be handled.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I personally think whether you.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Are a whether you're your own agent, own representation, or
you have your representation. I think, much like with anything,
there's a time in there is a place for everything.
I think while Matt Judon may feel the way that
he feels, he's entitled to feel the way that he's feeling,
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he's feeling, the execs that he was talking to, Coach Mayo,
who he's talking to, they have the right to feel
the way that they feel as well. The key to
all of this is how the lanes in the lines
of communication are established. You are currently whether you want
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to move them and get him out of there, or
you know, however, that it may end, and it may
play out as it stands right now, he is currently
a part of your team and has been a ridiculously
positive contributor to that organization on the field. The respect
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level in terms of how you communicate about things. If
if that's not there, then it's going to deteriorate and
it's going to turn into a problematic situation. I don't
know that I hear that all the way fully of
how Matt Judon sounded in what he was saying, but
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by the reports and the fact that these are conversations
that are playing out on the field, if I'm if
I'm understanding it correctly, it is deteriorating and it is
going in the wrong direction because those are things that
should be handled behind closed doors. Business Generally, you can
(26:58):
talk about things, and you can have conversation about things
outside of closed doors. But one thing is for certain.
Why would you want to talk about your business in public?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Why would you want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Your business in front of your teammates, in front of
whoever else may be there. Why would you want to
discuss those those matters in public. Why would you want
to discuss them on on podcasts?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
You know?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I just I think that there's there's a there's a
right way to engage situations too, to hopefully try to
get the outcomes that you're looking for. If it doesn't
work out the way that you wanted to work out,
you just you behind closed doors and and and and
you know, silence, and and in privacy, you work, you
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work through what it is that needs to take place
and how you want to go about executing what your
plan is to get to where it is you're trying
to get to.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
And if that's not in New England.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Then that's the conversation that you have to have with
them in an office, you know. And I think that
that's that's lost in this scenario as it as it
applies right now.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Like that the whole knowing what someone's making, what they
you know how much is like that's always weirded me out, man,
Like the fact that that's accessible in sports to where
we know every single detail of what everybody's making, but we.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Don't we don't know what the owners make, right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's just it's just like I, like you and I
have never one time in the three years we've been
doing the show, have never one time said, hey, how
much do you make? Like it's not my business, Like
I don't like there's I don't. I don't look at
people's wallets and go all I got to know what
you make? Like it's never come up in conversation yet
DJ Moore signs a contract yesterday.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
You won't even say if you're negotiating.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I won't say anything, Like I don't say anything. I
keep it quiet, you know, I just I just do
my thing. But like it's the idea that in the NFL.
It's like it's like the idea that in the NFL,
not only do we know everything, but that Yeah, to
your point, like people will just go and talk about
it on podcasts like I don't. I don't think that
(29:19):
anything Matthew Judon says on that podcast is going to
get him what he wants. But that's not I don't
know what good comes from it, Like I really don't.
And so yeah, it's great content because he's being open
and vocal about the situation. But I just look at
it and go if they were going to give him
a deal and give him more money, I think they
would have already done it by now at.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
This point, you're not putting You're not putting pressure on
them by doing what you're doing. That's not This is
not a pressure pressure situation. So the idea of it
is is you I don't know, man, I just think
that again. You know, you said you drew up your
contract this did you send it to him? They didn't respond,
(30:03):
Go find out why they're not responding. You don't have
to talk about why or talk about them not responding.
I mean, unless you're like planning on or you're already
doing something like you said.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
He hasn't reported, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
He showed up, He showed up, He had that back
and forth with girod Mayo and Elliott Wolf, and then
he didn't show up to practice yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
All right, So I mean maybe he's trying to justify
his actions in some way shape or matter, shape form
or as as it pertains to this.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
He just wants people to understand his side of the story.
But I just think when it comes down to the
business of what you're doing, like for me, I'll just
use me as an example, and I can I can
recall when my contract situation went bad in Washington. I
never wanted my contract situation to be public. I just
(31:00):
wanted them to fix it, you know, Dan. I went
to Dan personally. Can you guys just fix it? I mean,
I worked to help our organization out.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Just fix it.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
It didn't become public until it had to be reported
to the NFLPA. The NFLPA gets involved. Now it becomes public.
Now Dan's embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I mean I wasn't embarrassed because I didn't do anything.
I just was trying to help. But then it becomes
a situation where I was under attack. I didn't I
didn't start talking about what I was talking about until
they tried to paint a picture that I couldn't learn
plays like I had gone to three Pro Bowls under
(31:45):
three different defensive coordinators, and now all of a sudden,
I can't learn Greg Williams' defensive scheme and that's why
I'm not playing. Like, come on, so now I have
to talk. I don't even want to talk about it.
I don't I don't even want to deal with it.
And if you don't want me here, just let me go.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I asked. I asked Joe Gibbs. I asked Joe Gibbs,
let me, let me get a trade. They said no.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
So not only are you you you not playing me,
and you're you're trying to prove a point about me
to make yourselves look better, but you won't even allow
me to get a trade. So if you're asking me
every day what's going on, eventually I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you what's going on. But I was
(32:34):
not negotiating in public, right, Like, I just feel like
when you start doing things where you're negotiating versus to me,
I felt like I owed it to the fan base
because of what I had become to the fan base,
what I represented to the city. I felt like I
(32:55):
owed it to them to have the conversation about what
was going on.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
But I wasn't negotiating.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I wasn't like, y'all need to pay me da da
da this and that, Hey Jonas when when the money
wasn't there, I basically said, all right, if y'all don't
want to if y'all don't want to do right by
me and honor the you know what the contract was
and what it was supposed to.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Be, fine, can we just move on.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Let's think about this like and it was a hit
like it was like six some million dollars, let's just
move on, and and it was really it was it
was the organization that was putting out what they were
putting out in in in the media and trying to
assassinate my character. Joe Bugle comes out and says, if
(33:46):
you're making all these mistakes, we can't put you on
the field.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
You weren't even put me on the field. I wasn't
even practicing. So so to.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Me, this this idea of, you know, kind of just
taking it upon yourself to negotiate in public, I don't
see that to be the most productive approach to what
you're doing versus having the conversation behind closed door. If
they're attacking you, that's different. If they're putting out a
false narrative, that's different. But as it applies to negotiate
(34:21):
your numbers, you keep that, you keep that in house.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here and
coming up next, it's a Wednesday tradition, the good, the Bad,
and the ugly right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
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Speaker 3 (34:41):
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something we do every single Wednesday on the show, and
it's called This Christ.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
All right, lead to lab who's got what well?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
As we do each and every week, we start with
the good, and this week I'm giving it to you, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
What was good this week? I appreciate it. I mean, listen,
we've talked about it earlier this week, last week. Well,
you know it depends, Lee.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
It is weird man. That's all right, Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
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Speaker 6 (36:18):
I see what you got.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
That's my good for the week, Good for you.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Good for you league. That's that was good, which I did. Okay,
that was pretty good. That was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
But you can't have good without the bad lebar What
was bad?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I mean, isn't it easily?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
USA basketball, Steve Kerr not playing USA Basketball's Jason Tatum, damn,
and the Olympic opener.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
I just I think that's bad.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You know, whatever reason he gave, if it's, you know,
kind of schematically or game plan wise, it's the Olympics,
play play all your players bad.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
That's bad.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Well, from bad to worse for me, I'll go ahead
and let you guys know. What I think is ugly
is you know, every thing is pretty in Paris, But
what's ugly is knowing when and where you can find
it to watch it. I have no idea, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm with you. Very confusing, interesting, like like yeah, they're
just they show all these events and you're like, dude,
what's live? What's not?
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Can I what's that? Your feet?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Damn? Damn?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Browing you your feet is ugly player,
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
No Brady Quinn traveling back from Paris. You know, he
was out there for the Olympics supporting his wife who
was helping out with the US women's gymnastic gymnastics team.
Easy for me to say. They took home the in group.
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that is happening at the Olympics, Lee, we didn't have
time to get it. And in case you missed it,
but do you want to go ahead and share the
details on this because I'm sure LeVar is going to
feel a certain kind of way about this story.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Yes, that is right, because once I saw the story,
I knew LeVar had to hear it.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
So in case you missed this.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
American triathlon competitor Seth Wrider American by the way, Yeah,
American triathlon competitor Seth Writer has been working hard to
prepare for the Olympics in Paris. He's gone so far
as to even stop washing his hands after using the
toilet in order to prepare for the E coli that
he would be in contact with in the sen River.
He said this, we know that there's going to be
(02:08):
ecoli exposure, so I just try to increase my ecoli
threshold by exposing myself a bit to E coli on
my day to day life. It's actually backed by science
proven methods, just little things throughout your day, like not
washing your hands after you go to the bathroom and
stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
How about that bar? What do you think about that?
Speaker 5 (02:26):
About it sounds of what Q was saying, that that
body of water look like if they're using that same
body of water that we've been discussing. I just think
that that's not even that's not even feasible to think
that you've done enough to be prepared for swimming in
(02:47):
that water and for what it's worth. I don't understand
how I mean, I don't know if that's what you
have to do in your preparation. How about there, let's
start right there. If that's what you have to do
to prepare for what you're about to do to compete,
something is wrong.
Speaker 6 (03:08):
Something is wrong.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
If if you're if, if you're if it's not physically
the case that's being challenged, but it's it's like sanitarily
challenging you. It's it's like, what if what if something
I don't know, man, what what if you had some
(03:29):
type of illness or something that came about that was
life changing forever.
Speaker 6 (03:37):
For what like the chance to get a gold medal?
Speaker 5 (03:42):
Like I don't I don't think so man, I don't
that doesn't that doesn't add up to me.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I mean, this is a nice story by this guy
to say this is all about preparation. He's disguising the
fact that he's a slob.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
This is is that how you feel about.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
He's a foul, disgusting human being who doesn't wash his
hands after he takes a.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
Crap and now had a reason to say why he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
It's like that same guy.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I mean, we talk about this all the time, about
being in restaurants and going to the restroom and the
toilet flushes and you know it just got blown up. Yes,
and they just walk out, like put their hand on
the door handle, go right on back out. They'll shake
somebody's hand on the way, high five, somebody start eating
(04:29):
their food with their hands. Like this happens all the time,
So I'm not I'm not shocking.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
It's like it's like the guy, Like I love when
people try and disguise what the real reason is with
like you know something that that shows you know, real grit,
a real method to their madness, like something that's advanced,
like there was this guy. It just came out like
when they did the opening ceremonies. Somebody from on the
(04:56):
Italian Olympic team they dropped. The story was they dropped
their wedding ring in the river, and so posted a
message on social media talking about how devastated they were,
how much they loved their wife. It's a heartbreaking moment
and apologizing through and through blah blah blah blah blah.
(05:18):
That's code for I threw that bastard into the water
because I'm gonna go out and get loose, and you
know what, I don't want anybody seeing that ring on
my finger and thinking, you know what, I don't want
to be hamstrung by this whole thing. So that he
could try and sit here and say, well, it was
just by accident and no, no, no, there was a method.
You had something else going on. I don't buy it
for a second. People are full of crab man, and
(05:41):
apparently this guy's full of crab and doesn't wash.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
After he'scho Yeah. Literally.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
By the way, who knew Jimmer Ferdette was on the
three on three US men's basketball team. How about that?
Good for Jimmerferdett. He used to play like prison inmates.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Didn't even know that they had three on three basketball
in the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
The things you learned, man, you know, all for a
gold medal.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Things people do, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
So with that being said, this is something that I
know is near and dear to your heart, LeVar. You've
been wondering, like you have been, like literally like every
single day, sending a text message, Hey, is he gonna play?
Is he gonna play? Are they going to be? We
talked last hour about Kayleb Williams and the Bear starters
not playing in the preseason opener, the Hall of Fame
(06:27):
game coming up on Thursday. LeVar has been really really
into whether or not Aaron Rodgers is going to play
in the preseason, like he has demanded answers, and so
Robert Sala stepped out yesterday and spoke about his decision.
Will he played any preseason since.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
We haven't really talked about it. My instinct right now
as I stand here is we'll see.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
We'll see is no.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
But but I want to leave it open that that
third game is the one where we're designed. So he
definitely won't play the first two, But the discussion on
the third one we just haven't quite had yet.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So he's leaning towards not playing him in the preseason. Now,
this is I believe my math is correct on this.
So let's just say hypothetically they go by what Robert,
but Robert Stala's instinct is, which is to not play
him in the preseason. So what you're telling me is
(07:28):
that he's had fourteen snaps preseason included last year in
a year and a half, fourteen snaps, and the first
time back, you want it in real time against the
Niners on Monday Night to open up the year on
the road. Look, I get that he's one of the
(07:54):
greatest of all time, but wouldn't you at least want
to like dust off the cobwebs in a preseason game
or two before you get out there and have to
deal with the Niners and Nick Bosa and Fred Warner
and those murderers in San Francisco. Your first game back.
Speaker 6 (08:09):
Well, I mean, he didn't see it fit to be
at mini camp.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Damn.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
I mean, why do you need the preseason? Let's just
get to it.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Enough with this stuff.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
Is it gonna be an unexcused absence for the pre preseason?
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Say?
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Why didn't he just go to Egypt? Right now? That's
four weeks, that's a month.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Put your hand upon e JYPS.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
We did stupid.
Speaker 5 (08:48):
Hey, man, listen, I don't know, man, Like, at some
point somebody's going to have.
Speaker 6 (08:56):
To explain to me what this is all about.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Like, I really believe that we've gotten to a point.
And I've said this before, and I don't like the
venture outside of the parameters of sport, just because I
just don't want to have those types of conversations. I
don't I have them in my private life. I do
not have them in public forms because people can handle
(09:23):
the truth and I don't like getting caught up into
those types of conversations. Our society has weakened. You could
see it in the obesity level. You can see it
in the enrollment of our armed forces. You can see
it in the decline in our first responders. There are
(09:43):
so many different things that can can show you that
you can identify that we have become very, very soft.
You know, physical education used to be a requirement to
do basically basic training. When you were in in school
(10:05):
and doing PHIZZAD, it was almost like you were preparing
to go to war.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
In gym class. That doesn't exist anymore.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I feel like our culture has gotten so our society
has gotten so soft. And that's me keeping it light
because all this other stuff seeing you know, dudes walk
out of women's bathrooms and stuff like that, and all
this stuff going on, that's just buffoonery and just total
(10:38):
utter confusion to me as to what the identities of
these people are and the people who are raising them.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
What are your identities?
Speaker 5 (10:49):
I feel like our society has gotten super super soft.
It's crazy soft, and you see it popping up in
places where it shouldn't pop up.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I really believe.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
The idea of thinking that it's too risky to do
your job, Like, let me rephrase that. No, no, no,
I don't want to rephrase it. Let me phrase it,
let me state it again. So you're telling me that
(11:27):
it's too risky to allow this person to do their job.
Just let it sink in, man, Like I don't. I
don't get it. Like I understand, the preseason serves its purpose,
and the preseason, generally speaking, is to give guys the
(11:52):
opportunity to make the roster. We stated that in the
first hour, but the preseason is also in my estimation
from what I gathered when I played and before I played,
and when I watched as a fan, the preseason is
also for the starters to get live reps against other teams.
(12:13):
That's what the preseason was. It's it's these are games
where you can get live reps perfect like timing, like
quarterbacks can actually get hit, you know, players can.
Speaker 6 (12:26):
Get tackled live reps.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
By a different team, so that you could get your
timing down, so that you can get film that you
can go figure, you could actually study to work on
what it is that you need to improve upon. And
the games don't count, so you can make those mistakes
and you have the opportunity to get those corrections. By
(12:51):
the time you get to the third preseason game, your
starters are in pretty good condition and they can play
all the way into.
Speaker 6 (13:01):
The third quarter.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
They'll play the whole first half, and they'll play a
series or two, maybe a series in the in the
second half, and then they come out. That's how it's
always been, and it's turned into something totally different. And
to think that it's it's like for what for what
(13:25):
is it because of the concussions epidemic? Is it because
of the amount of money they're paying these guys?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Is it?
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Like, what is it really that you're saying to me
that their job, the job that they're getting paid millions
of dollars to do.
Speaker 6 (13:47):
We're not going to have them do their job for what.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
It makes absolutely zero sense to me that this is
where football has gotten that guys don't play. Oh, he
may get hurt, there's no reason to risk it. What's
the benefit of it, Well, then don't have the game.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
It's kind of wild to think about that entire like
how many jobs because like, let's just say the entire staff.
And I forget who it was that brought this up recently,
but they said one of the parts that doesn't get
talked about a lot is that when a coach gets fired,
there's always people calling for jobs. Like it might have
been Dave Wantstet in an interview I heard say this once,
(14:28):
but he said, you know what a lot of people
don't talk about is when a coach gets fired, it's
not just the coach who gets fired that the fans
are calling for. It's all of the people on his staff,
people who maybe aren't making you know, a significant amount
of money, that all of a sudden they're being uprooted,
Like financially they're in a different spot than this coach
who's getting millions, and like there's a lot of people
(14:50):
impacted by somebody losing their job in sports, like a coach.
So basically what Robert Sala is saying is that this
entire organization and dozens of jobs all are depending on
Aaron Rodgers' body being healthy, is basically what he's saying. Like,
(15:13):
because if Rogers is hurt and they put together a
season like they did last year, everybody's gone and everybody
there knows it. So it almost feels like they've got
him bubble wrapped just to get to the season and
then well, whatever happens happens, and I look at it
and go, yeah, but wouldn't you feel like if you
were coming you you ruptured your achilles when you were
(15:35):
coming back from your Achilles, Like, wouldn't you know want
I know, but like if you were going to come back, like,
wouldn't you want at least like some preseason action, like
just just just to know before you get to real
game action.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Zonus, it's his job.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Like what I don't, I don't, I don't understand, Like
this seems so foreign to me.
Speaker 6 (16:01):
Like I guess I'm old school.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
I guess I'm outdated, and I guess the way I
think is not feasible or sensible.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
It's my job.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
I'm preparing all off season. I should be able to
go in there and play. I should want to go
in there and play. I should need to go in
there and play. I should have to go in there
and play because it's my job. Like I don't care
(16:39):
like somebody is here to replace me. Somebody here is
trying to replace me. I'm going to do my job,
and I'm going to try to do my job at
the highest level, and I'm going to do what's asked
of me.
Speaker 6 (16:53):
That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to deliver that.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Whether I'm a first ballot, bonafide Hall of Famer, whether
I'm Patrick Mahomes, and my body of work.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
It's solidified. It's my job.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
It's my job. And by the way, it is what
they call what's that, what's it called? Oh yeah, a
full contact sport. It's a full contact sport, which, by
the way, the rules have been altered so much at
this point that quarterbacks barely have much to worry about
(17:28):
to concern themselves with, and yet instill you're nervous about
the idea that he could get injured playing limited reps.
I just like, to me, it sets a precedence that
that is unbelievable. It's unbelievable to me. Like it's soft.
(17:53):
It's just soft. It's a soft approach. It's a scared approach.
It's a cautious approach. It's a safer approach. And if
that's what you're going to do in football, you know,
I don't know, man, Like we used to. It used
to be a sport that you actually compared to the military,
Like we're going to war out here, you know where
(18:14):
I'm a soldier Da da dad, this, that and the other. Like, man,
I don't know about all that anymore. Man, it's just
this kind of it's just different. Man, It's just the
whole idea of it is just very different now.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
It's just different. So I don't know. I'm not mad
about it.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I'm just saying it's weird to me to think that
your job is to play ball, So why aren't you playing?
Like nobody's saying you got to play four quarters? But
you're telling me we're not going to use Caleb Williams,
who is a rookie. We're not going to use him
at all because there's no reason, the risk getting him hurt.
(18:49):
It's weird to me, man, it just sounds weird to me.
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So the Matthew Judon situation with the New England Patriots
is getting a little bit I guess a little bit, yeah, dice,
it would be a good word. Uh, you know, a
little bit more uneasy for everybody involved. He was not
at practice yesterday For the Patriots.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
To say he's arguably their best player.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
H yeah, I would say that's probably fair. I mean,
he's coming off the injury, but he's been a great sign.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
But he's I mean he's he's been their most who's
been more productive than him when he's on the field, I.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Would say it's him. Yeah, he's been great and he
was one of those guys that they gave a big
money deal to which was rare back then. But he's
played really well and he's coming off the injury and
last year he had, you know, an issue with his
contract and they were able to sweeten the platform and
Belichick gave him a little bit more for him to
come back because he felt like he had outplayed his contract,
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which he probably has. He was not at practice yesterday
following a back and forth exchange with Drawd Mayo, the
head coach the day before. He then went over and
had you know, a conversation with Executive VP of Player
Personnel Elliott Wolfood. Practice it well too, and so this
is all contract related, but it appears that New England
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is not ready to do anything to kind of sweeten
the pot on his deal this year like they did
last year. And so you know, Matthew Judon spoke recently
on the Shut Up Mark podcast and talked about the
situation and what he doesn't like about football.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
I love football the basin. It's the football, Like I said, like,
I don't want to be the feeling. I don't want
to be the bad guy. But it's like, shoot, bro, like,
help me out. We got the most cap in the
league right now, bro, Like, and then with that, like
they don't even get the money, so what the what the.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Hell are y'all doing with it?
Speaker 9 (23:16):
Like y'all literally is just not using it, I have
a tough decision.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
It's hard for them.
Speaker 9 (23:22):
It's hard to know who to get the money to,
when to give it the money to, where, how much.
Speaker 6 (23:27):
There's a lot of stuff that.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Go along with that.
Speaker 9 (23:29):
But I wrote out my own contract and sent it
to him.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
They just ain't respond. So that's his take on the
situation with New England. And I do wonder if, like
if you were to look around the Patriots right now.
Obviously it's a it's a brand new era of Patriots football.
Belichick's gone, but you know they did. It's not like
they haven't given money out like they've They've paid a
couple of guys this offseason. I believe Jabrill Pepper's got
(23:56):
a contract extension, got a new three year deal, if
I'm not mistaken. I think Darrisaw also got uh got
some money as well too. And so Matthew Judon's coming
off the injury. I wonder if it's just better at
this point just to move him and try and get
something back, Like there's teams that are going to be
in the market for a DN like he's he's a
(24:16):
good player when he's healthy. I wonder if that's where
the Patriots look at this and go listen, man, we
don't need this if we're trying to start this new
era of Patriots football. It just feels like, you know,
it's already turned into an issue that's been seen and
recorded and documented in practice. Maybe it's time to.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Move on who Everybody has their own approaches to how
they feel their their business should be handled. As I
mentioned in the first uh the first segment of this hour,
this is your job, you know, this is this is
what you're this is what you get paid to do.
(24:57):
And I think there's certain levels of engagement and the
way that that it should be handled.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
I personally think whether you.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Are a whether you're your own agent, own representation, or
you have your representation. I think, much like with anything,
there's a time in there is a place for everything.
I think while Matt Judon may feel the way that
he feels, he's entitled to feel the way that he's feeling,
(25:28):
he's feeling, the execs that he was talking to, Coach Mayo,
who he's talking to, they have the right to feel
the way that they feel as well. The key to
all of this is how the lanes in the lines
of communication are established. You are currently whether you want
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to move them and get him out of there, or
you know, however, that it may end, and it may
play out as it stands right now, he is currently
a part of your team and has been a ridiculously
positive contributor to that organization on the field. The respect
(26:14):
level in terms of how you communicate about things. If
if that's not there, then it's going to deteriorate and
it's going to turn into a problematic situation. I don't
know that I hear that all the way fully of
how Matt Judon sounded in what he was saying, but
(26:35):
by the reports and the fact that these are conversations
that are playing out on the field, if I'm if
I'm understanding it correctly, it is deteriorating and it is
going in the wrong direction because those are things that
should be handled behind closed doors. Business Generally, you can
(26:58):
talk about things, and you can have conversation about things
outside of closed doors. But one thing is for certain.
Why would you want to talk about your business in public?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
Why would you want to talk about.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Your business in front of your teammates, in front of
whoever else may be there. Why would you want to
discuss those those matters in public. Why would you want
to discuss them on on podcasts?
Speaker 6 (27:26):
You know?
Speaker 5 (27:27):
I just I think that there's there's a there's a
right way to engage situations too, to hopefully try to
get the outcomes that you're looking for. If it doesn't
work out the way that you wanted to work out,
you just you behind closed doors and and and and
you know, silence, and and in privacy, you work, you
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work through what it is that needs to take place
and how you want to go about executing what your
plan is to get to where it is you're trying
to get to.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
And if that's not in New England.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Then that's the conversation that you have to have with
them in an office, you know. And I think that
that's that's lost in this scenario as it as it
applies right now.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Like that the whole knowing what someone's making, what they
you know how much is like that's always weirded me out, man,
Like the fact that that's accessible in sports to where
we know every single detail of what everybody's making, but we.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Don't we don't know what the owners make, right.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
It's just it's just like I, like you and I
have never one time in the three years we've been
doing the show, have never one time said, hey, how
much do you make? Like it's not my business, Like
I don't like there's I don't. I don't look at
people's wallets and go all I got to know what
you make? Like it's never come up in conversation yet
DJ Moore signs a contract yesterday.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
You won't even say if you're negotiating.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
I won't say anything, Like I don't say anything. I
keep it quiet, you know, I just I just do
my thing. But like it's the idea that in the NFL.
It's like it's like the idea that in the NFL,
not only do we know everything, but that Yeah, to
your point, like people will just go and talk about
it on podcasts like I don't. I don't think that
(29:19):
anything Matthew Judon says on that podcast is going to
get him what he wants. But that's not I don't
know what good comes from it, Like I really don't.
And so yeah, it's great content because he's being open
and vocal about the situation. But I just look at
it and go if they were going to give him
a deal and give him more money, I think they
would have already done it by now at.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
This point, you're not putting You're not putting pressure on
them by doing what you're doing. That's not This is
not a pressure pressure situation. So the idea of it
is is you I don't know, man, I just think
that again. You know, you said you drew up your
contract this did you send it to him? They didn't respond,
(30:03):
Go find out why they're not responding. You don't have
to talk about why or talk about them not responding.
I mean, unless you're like planning on or you're already
doing something like you said.
Speaker 6 (30:15):
He hasn't reported, right, I mean.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
He showed up, He showed up, He had that back
and forth with girod Mayo and Elliott Wolf, and then
he didn't show up to practice yesterday.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
All right, So I mean maybe he's trying to justify
his actions in some way shape or matter, shape form
or as as it pertains to this.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
Maybe that's what it is.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
He just wants people to understand his side of the story.
But I just think when it comes down to the
business of what you're doing, like for me, I'll just
use me as an example, and I can I can
recall when my contract situation went bad in Washington. I
never wanted my contract situation to be public. I just
(31:00):
wanted them to fix it, you know, Dan. I went
to Dan personally. Can you guys just fix it? I mean,
I worked to help our organization out.
Speaker 6 (31:10):
Just fix it.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
It didn't become public until it had to be reported
to the NFLPA. The NFLPA gets involved. Now it becomes public.
Now Dan's embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (31:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (31:24):
I mean I wasn't embarrassed because I didn't do anything.
I just was trying to help. But then it becomes
a situation where I was under attack. I didn't I
didn't start talking about what I was talking about until
they tried to paint a picture that I couldn't learn
plays like I had gone to three Pro Bowls under
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three different defensive coordinators, and now all of a sudden,
I can't learn Greg Williams' defensive scheme and that's why
I'm not playing. Like, come on, so now I have
to talk. I don't even want to talk about it.
I don't I don't even want to deal with it.
And if you don't want me here, just let me go.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
I asked. I asked Joe Gibbs. I asked Joe Gibbs,
let me, let me get a trade. They said no.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
So not only are you you you not playing me,
and you're you're trying to prove a point about me
to make yourselves look better, but you won't even allow
me to get a trade. So if you're asking me
every day what's going on, eventually I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna tell you what's going on. But I was
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not negotiating in public, right, Like, I just feel like
when you start doing things where you're negotiating versus to me,
I felt like I owed it to the fan base
because of what I had become to the fan base,
what I represented to the city. I felt like I
(32:55):
owed it to them to have the conversation about what
was going on.
Speaker 6 (33:01):
But I wasn't negotiating.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
I wasn't like, y'all need to pay me da da
da this and that, Hey Jonas when when the money
wasn't there, I basically said, all right, if y'all don't
want to if y'all don't want to do right by
me and honor the you know what the contract was
and what it was supposed to.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
Be, fine, can we just move on.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Let's think about this like and it was a hit
like it was like six some million dollars, let's just
move on, and and it was really it was it
was the organization that was putting out what they were
putting out in in in the media and trying to
assassinate my character. Joe Bugle comes out and says, if
(33:46):
you're making all these mistakes, we can't put you on
the field.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
You weren't even put me on the field. I wasn't
even practicing. So so to.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Me, this this idea of, you know, kind of just
taking it upon yourself to negotiate in public, I don't
see that to be the most productive approach to what
you're doing versus having the conversation behind closed door. If
they're attacking you, that's different. If they're putting out a
false narrative, that's different. But as it applies to negotiate
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your numbers, you keep that, you keep that in house.
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yeah, Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here and
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Speaker 2 (35:01):
There are some good things that happen, and there's some bad,
and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good,
bad and lovely.
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All right, lead to lab who's got what well?
Speaker 4 (35:13):
As we do each and every week, we start with
the good, and this week I'm giving it to you, Jonas.
Speaker 3 (35:17):
What was good this week? I appreciate it. I mean, listen,
we've talked about it earlier this week, last week. Well,
you know it depends, Lee.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
It is weird man. That's all right, Go ahead.
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Speaker 6 (36:18):
I see what you got.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
That's my good for the week, Good for you.
Speaker 6 (36:21):
Good for you league. That's that was good, which I did. Okay,
that was pretty good. That was pretty good.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
But you can't have good without the bad lebar What
was bad?
Speaker 6 (36:29):
I mean, isn't it easily?
Speaker 5 (36:31):
USA basketball, Steve Kerr not playing USA Basketball's Jason Tatum, damn,
and the Olympic opener.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
I just I think that's bad.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
You know, whatever reason he gave, if it's, you know,
kind of schematically or game plan wise, it's the Olympics,
play play all your players bad.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
That's bad.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Well, from bad to worse for me, I'll go ahead
and let you guys know. What I think is ugly
is you know, every thing is pretty in Paris, But
what's ugly is knowing when and where you can find
it to watch it. I have no idea, Thank you.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
I'm with you. Very confusing, interesting, like like yeah, they're
just they show all these events and you're like, dude,
what's live? What's not?
Speaker 6 (37:16):
Can I what's that? Your feet?
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Damn? Damn?
Speaker 6 (37:25):
Browing you your feet is ugly player,
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