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August 1, 2024 39 mins

Aaron Rodgers addresses is ready to play despite the Jets hesitancy to march him out in the preseason. The NFL tweaks intentional grounding and ball placements. Plus, tales from ‘Delivery Wednesdays’ and LaVar returns, and much more!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
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some interesting conversations being had here, I mean, because I

(01:13):
just I wanted to be clear here, Brady, I'm on
your side, okay with this whole Olympics debate between.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
You and Lee.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
All right, So I just want you to know I'm
on your side here. You were over there. If anybody
knows what it's really like. I'm sick and tired of
Lee trying to tell you your business and what you
and your wife went through over in Paris while he's
sitting here and the comfy Fox Sports Radio Studios brought
to you by tire rack in Sherman Oaks, California.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Wow, up with it?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, tired of this crap.

Speaker 5 (01:45):
I just know this, Lee.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
We were no shortage of eggs anywhere we went to,
or chicken for that matter, at any point in time.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, they didn't say that we were only doing half.
You know, you can only have one egge No, wood,
chicken can't have the second.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Every single morning. We had eggs every single morning, chicken
every meal.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Hey, can I say something about eggs though, because I
didn't think it was a thing. There really is a
difference in the taste between like your typical eggs you
get and like the organic pasteurized eggs you can.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
What's the big difference there?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, first, of all the color and the taste of
the yolk significantly better than.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
It's like oranger when it's organic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've
noticed that.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
So I noticed that. I figured I was like, you
know what, Lee, you.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
Strike me as a safe.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
They would eat like out of the box, you know,
like the egg beaters that would be in there.

Speaker 5 (02:39):
Can I shake it up? Throw it just poured out
in the pan?

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, I used to do that. I'm so embarrassed and
I did that. Yeah, I'm I'm ashamed to admit that. Yeah,
the old the old egg whites.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Is that would do.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
No, really, no, I've never even had that. No, I like,
I like my organic eggs.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Oh that's good. Did you used to get it from
the packa next door?

Speaker 4 (03:01):
How would that work?

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Did they have eggs?

Speaker 5 (03:04):
Legs?

Speaker 6 (03:07):
There were? There were chickens and ducks in the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Stealing the eggs, leading leading to get in trouble with
whatever he was taking over from the liquor store. He
hide his fireball minis in the egg nest under the
outpacka in that pig though, bake enough, you'll back. Hey,

(03:37):
by the way, they're bringing that outpaca back, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
I hope. So what the time of the year. Yeah, yeah,
should be coming back soon.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
He's a seasonal OUTPACKA.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
He is a seasonal ale pack. He comes back pretty
much between October and December.

Speaker 5 (03:51):
Where the hell do you live? Because I feel like
you live in an urban area where they allow you
to have an outpack next door.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well next to a pumpkin patch area. They get the
the Chris trees are in the pumpkin patch.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
If they want that al packet to blend in here
in LA, just give it a sleeping bag and a
drug problem and uh nobody will notice.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
The the bums do sleep right next to the ul packet.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Of course they do.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Dude, It's probably warm.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, you know, why wouldn't they makes all the sense
in the world. Also, can I tell you about a
really great moment?

Speaker 7 (04:25):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (04:26):
So, Lee's you know, just grinding through, uh you know,
been a long week and all that, and he's having
a cup of coffee and I was like, you know,
do you get an these sleeves? Yeah, you know, I
had to take a bunch of phone calls yesterday. And
Lorraine is like, you know, Lee, I really worry about
your health. As she's mid bite in a pint of
ice cream at four in the morning, Like, why are

(04:47):
you eating ice cream? I'm not judging that at four
in the morning. This is my middle of the day, Jonas.
But it's almost gone. Like how much of that have
you had during the show?

Speaker 8 (04:59):
Like it's lasted about four days?

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Okay, well, we and Coop has.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
Had many a spoonful.

Speaker 3 (05:08):
You and Cooper ead that the same ice cream?

Speaker 8 (05:10):
Yeah, what kind of ice cream is it? It's Baskin
Robin's Beach Day ice cream.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
M what's in it?

Speaker 8 (05:20):
Do you want to hear? How delicious this is?

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Okay?

Speaker 6 (05:22):
Besides the color?

Speaker 8 (05:25):
Okay, well it's there specialty ice cream right now. So
it's salted vanilla flavored ice cream with chocolate caramel turtles
with frosting flex and also Graham Cracker swirls.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
It's not bad.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
It's the best.

Speaker 8 (05:42):
Ice cream ever.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
I've bought three of these tubs.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
That's not that's not not bad. Off salid Breakfast. So
there there we go. That's a it's a quick update
here from the studio as we fight through here, as
we are approaching the Hall of Fame game. Now, obviously
the preseason is you know, what are we looking at
about thirteen hours away from kicking off. Aaron Rodgers apparently

(06:07):
there's been a little bit of some miscommunication between him
and Robert Salah about whether or not he's going to
partake in the preseason. Robert sala said his instinct would
be that he would not partake, but you know, maybe
it would be the third preseason game against the Giants
coming up in a couple of weeks. Nonetheless, Rogers was
asked about it yesterday.

Speaker 9 (06:28):
That's Robert's decision. I've never told them I don't want
to play in the preseason. There's a lot of thoughts
about whether there's any particular game from it.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Yeah, we used to play all the time.

Speaker 9 (06:39):
I think a question we played, you know, ten to
fifteen in the first one, and a quarter and a
half in the second one, in the third quarter and
third one, and then sometimes you know, Tennessee would always
play their guys shoot. Sometimes through the third quarter we
would play and maybe a series or two. Now nobody
wants to play. They don't want to play their guys.
It's different to combat that. Now we've done all these

(07:00):
practices with other teams, so we have three of those.
I'm assuming those will be like our super heavy days
and then I'll be like the preseason for us. If
he decides he wants me to play against the Giants,
I'll strap it up and look forward to that.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Is the decision different this time because of the injury.

Speaker 9 (07:16):
No, I don't think so. No, I don't have any restrictions.
I'm doing keepers rollouts. So it was news to me
yesterday when he said I wasn't gonna play in the
first two. But we hadn't even had a conversation yet
about that.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
That's a good sign. So here we go. As the
world turns. Every time, I want to just buy fully
into the Jets and think this is the year. Robert
sala is a good coach, Aaron Rodgers one of the
greatest of all times. There's something that comes out that
I go, Okay, now I got to reevaluate my thought

(07:53):
process on the team.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
I'll say it before I'll say it again. None of
this matters.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
None of this matters until it does, which is when
they go through adversity, they go through a streak of
losses or lose however many games, and then that's when
you rely on whatever foundation of a culture you've built
an organization to see you through it, to not listen
to the outside noise, to not turn and point the finger,

(08:21):
to not you know, basically try to attack each other within,
but try to work together to find solutions this time
of year, to me, conflict is okay. So the fact
you've got GEARA Wilson and Aaron Rodgers maybe at times
on the same page, that's okay. This is the time

(08:42):
to experiment. It's the time to have those tough conversations.
And I don't care if it's two days in a
row and Garret Wilson's number one wide receiver and Rodgers
you know, wasn't there for Mini camp.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
It doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
None of that matters right now. They just need to
be sure they're ready for Week one and they're on
for the rest.

Speaker 7 (08:59):
Of the season.

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
The problem is if things don't go well, as they
don't have the easiest schedule to start off, and they're
going to be in you know, prime time for all
to see what's six times in the first eight weeks,
ten weeks, whatever it is, there is an element of
question as to how this team will be able to
come around. Like the things we know is it is
a better ross than what it was a year ago.

(09:22):
Rogers will probably be there healthy at least to start
the season, and I would be a betting man to
say he gets more than four plays into it before
his season's over. So I think those things are pretty sure.
In regards to what the rest of it looks like,
I have no idea. But the one concerning thing is
the fact that the media has obviously taken Aaron Rodgers

(09:46):
and every little word he says, every little thing he does.
That's just that's how things are going to be from
here on out. So I don't want to make too
much of the fact that, you know, he's talking about
being willing to play in the preseason, he's done in
the past, all that, and then roberts saw say no chance,
because I can see both sides of it, like Rogers
has to be chopping at the bit to put himself
out there.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
A little bit, oh yes.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
And meanwhile Robert sala is looking as a head coach saying.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
What's my upside? Well, what's my upside like for a
head coach to put out a future Hall of Fame
quarterback who's coming off an injury at forty years old?
Any meaningless I mean, I mean meaningless game what's the upside.
So with that thinking, now it's more about Aaron Rodgers

(10:35):
getting on the same page with Robert Sala because even
if Rogers wants to, sometimes you have to protect a
player from himself. Sometimes you have to protect a player
in the sense of making a business decision, and this
would be one of those. It's just as much as
Rogers might want to go out there and play, it
just doesn't make any financial sense, any sense for this
team for this upcoming season.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
That's like when I hear him say that, it sounds
like somebody who does want to go out and play,
because if you go back to last preseason, he played
I think ten snaps in their game against the Giants
last year, so he played a couple of series. So
we're talking he's played fourteen snaps total in a year
and a half. And if he doesn't play in the preseason,

(11:17):
so to open up and just roll him out there
Week one, coming off the injury and the lack of
playing time against the Niners in primetime on Monday night
on the road, like that seems less an ideal, Like
wouldn't you want some sort of like rep or something
in a preseason I know it's risky, but to me,

(11:39):
I would just feel so much better if I had
the opportunity to at least get out there roll around
in somewhat of a simulated game. And if they take
this approach and Robert Sala just says, no, no, no,
We're gonna play it safe, like that's a long ass
time between the last time he's really played real football
for the New York Jets, and I'm just curious to

(11:59):
see how his body reacts to that.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
He's played enough, though, I mean, this is kind of
like riding a bike. He's been in the league a
long long time, the games slowed down for him.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
There's gonna be elements of it that I don't think
he's gonna struggle with converting back to you. The part
of the game that he months to probably get on
the same pages is the timing and rhythm of an
offense that is with a bunch of players that he
didn't get those live reps with. And that's the hard
thing for Rogers is everyone else when they play in

(12:28):
preseason or in practice, for the most part, it's much
closer to the live game experience that you get as
compared to a quarterback.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
The quarterback position is.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
The one position that the entire way the game is
played is changed from practice to a game because there's
times when guys are all out of sack. It's like,
well it would have been maybe I spin out of it,
maybe I get away from you, maybe I get to throwoff.
Maybe it's incomplete, maybe it's completion. You know, there's all
sorts of things that change when you're subject eating it

(13:01):
and when you're subject to having to make the decision
of can I extend the play?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
Can I not? There's there's pressure on me. How do
I handle that pressure?

Speaker 1 (13:09):
And so because of that, there's gonna be a disconnect
always with quarterbacks wanting to maybe get those live reps
in and experience, because it does feel different. It is
more intense versus another position group. So again I can
understand his desire to want to be out there and
probably more so than anything else, just to get maybe
the first hit, you know, taken away eliminated from them,

(13:31):
because there's an element of that. When you come back
from an injury, in the back of your mind, you're wondering, like,
how how's my body going to respond? How's my body
going to hold up? But there's more importantly, an element
of timing and rhythm and chemistry where you can say
all you want to be in practice about what that
window looks like and what you're throwing into. But it's
different when you've got to make that throw and knowing

(13:51):
you're going to get hit, knowing that you've got to
alter your body to get that throw off because these
guys are trying to hit you and they've got bad intentions.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
It's it's not that way practice, right.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
We've seen guys get kicked out like Mantes Sweat for
hitting Caleb Williams of practice. That's entirely different as far
as the speed and intensity the pass.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
Rushots towards the quarterback. So I can.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Understand why he wants to from that standpoint, because it
is different, you know, for you going out though, when
the live bullets are on, even in a preseason as
opposed to practice.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
You mentioned the I guess argument or exchange, heated exchange, confrontation,
whatever people want to call it between him and Garrett Wilson,
happened a couple of times over the past few days
there training camp. Rogers also spoke about that yesterday Gin.

Speaker 9 (14:34):
And I got a great relationship. We spend time together
off the field. On the field, there's a way of
doing things that we both agree on, and when it
doesn't look exactly how we wanted to, sometimes there's some
sad conversations that happened.

Speaker 4 (14:49):
I love those conversations though.

Speaker 9 (14:50):
I mean, it's about the details, it's about winning, it's
about seeing what he sees. You know, he's got to
get on my page, but I got to get on
this page too, because he's got a whole book. I
need to understand fully of skill set and ability and
feel and rhythm and all the different things that he
does out there.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
So those are good conversations.

Speaker 9 (15:09):
They might appear to be much more heated than they are,
but there's usually a smile on our face afterwards.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
At least one of us.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
I love how people will stand on the outside of
the interrogation room glass and not be able to hear
anything but just go oh based on body language. That's
a bad sign. Do they have a disagreement? Who cares
like they'll work it out? I mean that's like, what
do you want me to do? Keep quiet and just
you know, be miserable and let it explode. At week eight,
because they didn't address it at the time, like, what's

(15:37):
the problem.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I don't know how you are with your friends and
family and all that. But sometimes, like the worst fights
arguments you get into are the ones that you're closest to, yes,
because you feel like you can you know, with other
people you're not as close to or you don't care
as much about. Oftentimes you let things slide because you're like, well,
I'm not going to see this person again, or I
really don't have to deal with this person or deal
with this son.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
I don't need to argue. I don't need to waste
my time energy.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
But when you've got someone who's on your team and
you're both pulling in the same direction but you're not
on the same page, Yeah, that's that's an emotional deal
that oftentimes, especially when you're physically tired or exhausted and
you're in training camp, you're going through these hot days
and everything else is going along with it.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Your body doesn't always feel great.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
You know you're you already have these triggers that are
going to lead to the potential of it looking like hey,
we're in a disagreement, we're arguing, fight at whatever, but
you'll you make up just as fast too, and honestly,
like sometimes that's the healthiest way for players to get
over stuff. Just get it out, like whatever you're ticked
off about, say it so we can address it and
move forward. And that's usually how teams and athletes handle stuff,

(16:45):
whether it's on a one on one basis like Rogers
and Garrett Wilson, or even when you know, a coach
comes in or a player comes in and he'll talk
about it for the team and be like, hey man,
this fight broke out.

Speaker 5 (16:56):
This is why this wasn't right, Like we all got
to get on the same page.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Like you'll have guys who stand up and sit there
and say that I've got a coach and player get
into a ridiculous fight in a meeting one time during
training camp, and I'll never forget the coach came back
in and said to us, he said, look, he's like,
we're like family in here. You guys all know how
this works. We spend more time around each other during
the football season than we do our own families.

Speaker 7 (17:17):
And that's the truth.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
You start to know your teammates better than you know your.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Wife, your kid's girlfriend, whatever, And that's part of what
this is all about. And so you're gonna have fights,
You're gonna have disagreements and arguments, but you also will
probably make up and find common ground much faster too.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
So all this stuff.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
You're hearing right now, it's just the media trying to
write about something. It's just us trying to talk about something.
I don't read into this stuff at all, not at
least until you get into the season and you're able
to see what exactly this looks like moving forward.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
And I remember you talking about that when Romeo Cornell
and Phil Dawson went at it like that felt at
this game in Phil, like Phil Dawson like pulled his
shirt over his head and was gone to lead a lap.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Take a guess it'd be better because you always go
for like the weirdest combination.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
What do you mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
I'm just trying to Lee more.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I'm sure he seems stressed out, like I have it
on good authority.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Then you keep trying to keep them away. Let's Lee,
let leave blossom into the into the star that he is.

Speaker 7 (18:15):
Lee.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
If you had the guess who was the coach and
player for the Browns that got into it a Donnie
Broke if you will, But I.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Never even said it was the Browns. You just have
made that assumption.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Oh wow, okay, all right, well I mean well then
let's uh let me let me dust this off again.
All right, let me let me work on this. You
got any guesses.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Here, probably be uh man, Genie and who's what kind
of player we were talking about?

Speaker 6 (18:43):
I'm sorry you saying.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
You're doing a good job.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
How was delivery Wednesday? Yesterday?

Speaker 6 (18:49):
I only made a stop by, just a quick stop.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Can we can we rehash that and after this next
breaking Yeah?

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Absolutely, I can tell you.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
I'd love to hear what drive by looks like for
you wednesday, you know, I just I do recall though
that that was something man, you know, with you when
you were in Kansas City, Romeo Crenell just having those
really really hard heart to heart conversations, you know, with
Dexter mccluster. Like to see those two guys go at

(19:17):
it the way they did.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I hope people listening right now, I understand what a
jackass Jonas is.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
What do you mean.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
Like sarre truth that Romeo wasn't like that?

Speaker 3 (19:26):
So okay, Ryan, suck up. I mean, look, I didn't
want to add him like that, but apparently that was
the problem. Just good it break Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up
next here we will get the very latest on delivery Wednesday.
And also apparently the NFL is going to look a
lot different. They've made some decisions. Some of us aren't
happy about it. That's yours here at FSR.

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Speaker 3 (20:35):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio
Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with your hair coming up in
a little over fifteen minutes from now, somebody's going to
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quarterback situation in the NFL. We will have that for
you here on FSR. We did tease before going to

(20:55):
break a quick update on lead to laps Delivery Whendnesday,
Shenanigans leave for the new audience. Could you explain delivery
Wednesday and just how yesterday was different than previous.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, delivery Wednesdays is you know, it's at Todd's karaoke bar,
which is closed during the day, but on Wednesdays during
the day Todd has to show up and be there
for whenever kegs or bottles of liquor whatever needs to
be there, you know, toilet paper, limes, anything that is
delivered to the bar pretty much all on Wednesday. So

(21:29):
he shows up, I wake up, I pretty much go
grab lunch and then we put on something on the TV,
maybe some House of the Dragons something like that, have
some lunch, maybe a few beverages as we wait for
the delivery chucks to show up.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
So we also make sure listeners understand the fact that
you're not sleeping just for an obscene amount of time,
which is why you wake up and go grab lunch.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
It's because the hours that you work.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
That is correct, Yes, we work crazy hours. So unfortunately
that means that and I go home afterwards and sleep
until about, you know, somewhere past noon.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
So you like you'll wake up around say twelve fifteen,
you'll I mean, I'm assuming no shower, no nothing, Oh no,
you gotta shower. Okay, Oh you do shower?

Speaker 6 (22:14):
Okay, yeah, I do shower. Actually I shower several times
a day.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
And then do you really yeah, so seven you're saying
more than two two to three?

Speaker 5 (22:22):
Good for you, buddy, Yeah I did not.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I mean, now does does some of that come as
a byproduct of what comes out of your body? Like
you literally are so discussed with yourself You're like, hey.

Speaker 5 (22:34):
I need to go a shower.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah my god, Well, I mean.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
No offense, Lee, I don't think your habitual workout guy,
It's like you're working.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Out not every day, but yeah, no, I do. I
shower after I go to the gym. Lee, So what
is when you drive to go get lunch? What would
be a standard lunch? And then do you guys, you know,
have a couple of drinks first to catch a buzz
and then eat or how does it work?

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Yeah, I typically go to the karaoke bar first, grab
a drink, wake myself up, okay, and then then yeah,
then figure out where my stomach is pointing after that.
So you know, it depends on the day. Sometimes you
want something you want a little more healthy, like a
little Mediterranean food.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
So that first drink on an empty stomach, that is
your compass. That is what you're following, that guides you
towards the rest.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
That's got Yeah, that's said. You gotta get the chemistry right,
settle yourself.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
You know some people have a tour guide. Lease Lea's
got a vodkatonic was the that was the poison of
choice yesterday. Now do you guys, do you at least
have the decency while you're drinking? Uh, you know the
place is booze. Do you at least have the decency

(23:48):
to go well? Or do you go like high level
vodka when you're doing.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
That's a very good question. So typically I'm not allowed
behind the bar.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Todd makes the drink for me, which is dangerous because
he's just throwing whatever he can find. And yes, it's
usually well well, yesterday he was hurting, so I showed up.
I could even find him. He was in a dark corner,
pass out on the on the couch. My god, so
I uh, I helped myself too, behind the bar. So
I went up, I went up a few shelves. It
was a good day, Brandy.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Do you have any advice for Lee and Todd you'd
like to pass along?

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Man advice? Yeah, it can't because it's it's the unsolicited, right.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
If you're asking me to give them advice, I need
them to at some point probably hit their rock bottom
whatever that is, before we start having some of these.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
Bigger, bigger life conversations.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
But as I was previous previously stated, at some point,
you got to grow up at some point, like someone
needs to interject into your life to like cause you
to uh to figure this whole thing out.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Man, I gotta you know, I gotta go do my work.
So I up at the good night set up on
the on the Wi Fi. Man, make sure I'm fed
and uh right, the fact that.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
They mean you've got a nice set up there, the
fact that they give you what free drinks and they
feed you, that's a pretty good deal.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Here's here's the other perce. This is the most depressing
part about all of it, for anybody that's been to
like a night clubbish type bar, like a dive bar.
During the day, there's an odor and a stench left
over for the night before that that is that like
makes you nauseous.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
And never forget it.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
And you also realize, Man, I'm in here and there's
nobody else in here. That's depressing. It's like looking out
your window in Vegas and just seeing the desert and
now the lights are on. It's like, oh, I gotta.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
Like Churchill Downs with all the pretty people. Oh yeah,
does not look the same.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah. So not only does want to be at it,
like he does his work in it, Like that's where
he is that work.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
It's been hot out here in the valley for the
last few weeks.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So yes, how does the over feel about you bumming
off alcohol and free food off them?

Speaker 10 (26:03):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (26:03):
The other the owner also named Todd weirdly enough, big
packer fan. We talk packers every time we see each other.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
It's a good guy. He doesn't mind, you know. I
I do my part. I break down boxes and uh so.

Speaker 5 (26:15):
Your free labor from him. So he's like, I'll just
give him.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah yeah, yeah, he owns the the sports bar down
the street as well, so uh we go over there.
We also have you know, he gives us free lunch
from there as well, and talk some packers and move
some move some supplies around if he needs, you know,
to move things from bar to bar.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
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to be at the other place and you guys were
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(27:20):
So before we are going to have a discussion, you
know somebody in the NFL, you know, has seen some
things in training camp and maybe they like to give
their opinion on the quarterback situation. But what the hell
is this? Like this out of the pocket quarterback can
throw the ball away and not be penalized intentional grounding

(27:41):
stuff that they've sort of worked into the system now likely.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Now the NFL just subtly made it easier for quarterbacks
to be out of the pocket, which gives them the
easier ability to throw the football.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Way and not be called for intentional grounding.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
So obviously we all know the tackle box, right, There's
that imaginary line that goes forever from the tackles behind
the quarterback.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
However, once you break it, the tackle box is gone.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
You can do whatever you want the football, throwing the
football away as long as there's an eligible receiver within
a closer five yard proximity to it, and then obviously
has to get over the line of scrimmage. So that
has now been made easier where any part of the
quarterback's body just has to break the tackle box, which
is not overly hard to.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Do in order to throw the football away.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So this act is done in or i should say
simple change is done most likely to protect quarterbacks, to
allow them to have a little easier time getting the
football away without taking a hit, even though quarterbacks have
been more and more.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
Hesitant to do so.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
They don't like throwing the ball away anymore because it
brings down the passer rating.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
That's part of the formula.

Speaker 1 (28:52):
So I know you laughs and people think it sounds ridiculous,
but you are right.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
There's a protect the rating.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
There's a lot of guys who would rather try to
run around and take a sack, or run around and
try to pick up a yard or two just to
try to avoid having that incompletion. That brings down the
completion percentage and makes it look bad. That also brings
on the passer rating as well. It's again not to
get in the weeds on all this, but that is
a thing that the private quarterback coaching community will sometimes teach.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
So love that.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
By the way. Not a big fan of a big
fan of Tory Taylor, iowah hawkay, and not a big
fan of the Hawkeye this sony new Hawkeye technology there.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Why are you not a fan of it?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Because it gets rid of the chain gang.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
So you're worried about the guys who I don't even
know if they're paid.

Speaker 5 (29:34):
Some of these guys might be volunteers.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yeah, they want it more than others. They're willing to
work for free.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
Look, I like the fact that in a game where
we've got cameras everywhere and so many millions of dollars,
they still rely on metal to find out whether or
not somebody's achieved a first down. I don't need a
chip in a football or a camera angle or anything
like that. Let those guys trot out there a couple
of times a game, spend the extra sixty second, and

(30:00):
let's put on a show here, all right, Like, let's
do this the right way. Enough with technology taken over
in the NFL, tired of this crap.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
I actually am on the completely opposite end of the
spectrum on this one.

Speaker 5 (30:12):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think anything that helps speed up the game, makes
it more efficient and honestly makes it more accurate, is
better for the game. I mean, it's not like we
care about the spot quite as much until it comes
down to the end of the game, end of the half,
you know, third down, fourth down. Like there's times without
the course of the game you watch a first or
second down spot and you're like, that was awful, Like

(30:35):
that was absolutely awful, like off by a foot, off
by a yard, I mean a yard sometimes And I
think coaches and players will you know, they won't want
to say this too much and be too critical, but
it was something we talk about all the time, and
so if we're really being honest with ourselves, why not
implement a technology that allows you to be closer to
getting it exactly right every time, eliminates the half, you know,

(30:59):
the you have to waste time to measure. All those
things make a better product, faster game, more accurate game.
I actually love the idea that we're going in this direction,
and I also think it might take away a little
little comedy at times when the chain gang gets, you know,
all tangled up, or for example, that traumatic moment when
the chain comes out.

Speaker 5 (31:20):
Yes and they'd measure it out there, he's just sort.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Of start, yeah, I Look. It's like people that want
open scoring and boxing or MMA, they're like, you know,
we're tired of guys getting screwed over on the cards.
You know, make it, make it to where you can
announce what the score is in between rounds. And the
WBC tried to do that like on international fights years ago.
They tried it in Mexico and everyone's like, oh, this
is so cool. And then you came down to the

(31:44):
actual announcement of the decision and there was no drama.
It's like, you want to like, I like the surprise,
so somebody's going to get screwed over on a scorecard.
But you know what, at least there was some drama
leading up into the announcement in the news, at least
with the chain gang. They'll extend it out. They're not
quite and you know, they lean into this a little
bit too, and then there you think, okay, well I

(32:04):
guess they're short or I guess they've got the first
and then they extend it a little further and it
completely changes everything. Like we doesn't completely change everything, not really,
but you know what, it's better TV, and I'm I'm
all about what's better TV.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
Here's here's the thing is for those few instances that
happened on an NFL Sunday, because it doesn't happen every game. No,
I think you benefit more by having maybe this newer technology.
The way you introduce it, I mean I look at
it very similar to let's just look at soccer or football,
as they say overseas where they have VAR, not our

(32:38):
var there Var.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
We don't even have your replace.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
We don't even have arvar today.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
No we don't. But that's neither here nor there.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
But the point is, is you see a controversial call
or you know, goal, what have you, they think, oh,
maybe it's off sides. They go to VAR and it's
like this kind of build up to let's see and
then you see whether the person was on you know,
off sides, on sides or not. And it's a relatively
efficient process. But there are be elements of that that
I think you could play into it which would make
it a better product on TV obviously not in person.

(33:07):
Maybe the way they show showcase it up on the
on the jumbo tron can be more dramatic, but there
is a way of tweaking and messing with it a
little bit.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, well listen, we'll see. They're going to try it
out in the preseason before they implement it next year.
It is two pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio, and coming up next year, we've
got an update on a quarterback competition in the NFL.

Speaker 10 (33:26):
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Speaker 12 (33:39):
Running outside, running out all about time. Oh there is
back and the show. Um me outside there, around me outside.
That's why I wasn't on air.

Speaker 5 (33:50):
They were around me outside, around me outside.

Speaker 7 (33:52):
Yeah, it was around me outside.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
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Speaker 5 (34:02):
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Speaker 7 (34:06):
Guess Who's back.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
A little over ten minutes from now from the tire
rack dot com studios, we are going to hear from
one quarterback in the NFL who's had a little bit
of a rough training camp, if you believe some of
the reports out there. So we'll get into that for
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(34:28):
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You'll see this show posted right after we get off
the air. We were going to discuss Arthur Blank's thoughts
on the Kirk Cousins Michael Pennock's quarterback situation. But Var
is here. Var is back? What the hell's going on?

Speaker 13 (34:48):
Hi, I'm in State College, Pennsylvania. You know, there's a
lot of exciting things. There's a lot of exciting things
going on here. And then what issue I ran into
technically this morning was everybody knew I was coming, and
they had the general area that I do the show

(35:08):
from every time I come here. But because they did
so many and which is beautiful renovations by the way.
I mean, they did an amazing job on on the offices.
But the I guess they have this whole new you know,
high speed data this day and the other technology going on.

(35:30):
So I had to be updated in the system so
that I would be able to have my voice go
over the airwaves from from where I'm broadcasting from. So
now we got it fixed, and now that's a distant memory.

Speaker 7 (35:46):
Even though I missed the first two hours of the.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
Show, Hey, you didn't miss much, buddy, we missed you.
That's what we missed you.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
Yeah, well you've got bail, you.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Know, a little little grab ass on a Thursday morning,
getting excited for the Hall of Fame game coming up
later on.

Speaker 7 (36:01):
Yeah, that's pretty exciting. Yeah, I get to see a practice,
are you? Are you excited about it?

Speaker 13 (36:06):
I mean it's because it's a game, you know what
I mean, there's there's going to be a game, and
there there will probably be someone who makes the game,
you know, pretty pretty entertaining. So I'm just happy that
that football is back. And then once the games start going,

(36:27):
it gets the juices flowing. You know, you get to
watch to see, you know, what are the new wrinkles
that are taking place this season, you know stuff like that,
Like I'm I'm sure they're not going to show much
in a Hall of Fame game, but with that being said,
they may be working on some new variations of what
an offense may look like, or new variations of what

(36:49):
a defense looks like. Like I was thinking to myself
about defensively, how how the defense can continue to eve
where they can stop the run with with two linebackers
and and and you know, is it four down linemen

(37:11):
or is it or is it too you know, kind
of like maybe hybrid type of ends almost like maybe
what what like Pittsburgh uses there. They look like their
defensive ends, but they're playing like linebackers type stuff. How
do you stop the run with two linebackers and more coverage?

Speaker 7 (37:32):
You know?

Speaker 13 (37:33):
So anyways, those are like things I've been thinking about.
I'm curious to see, you know, some of the things
that Penn State are is working on because I'll be
at practice today. So I'm excited about the game. I'm
excited about football.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
Man. Remember when former Steelers kicker Jeff Reid was at
the Hall of Fame game in Ohio and was just
annihilated and was getting into fights with people in the crowd.
That was pretty sweet. Okay, we'll get one of those.
Could get a little interesting there, you know, with the
Hall of Fame game here. But we were still trying
to find video of you lighting up Cordell Stewart. I

(38:07):
haven't been able to find it.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
Haven't been able to find it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Now in a preseason game.

Speaker 7 (38:10):
There's a picture of it, though, isn't there.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
I'm pretty certain there. I mean body bagged him. Man, Yeah,
that's what I love. I loved it.

Speaker 13 (38:22):
I loved I loved impacting people's lives. And that was
the way I did it was by the way I
hit you.

Speaker 7 (38:30):
Give me a high five.

Speaker 6 (38:32):
Yeah, yeah, give me a high fuck.

Speaker 7 (38:37):
You know.

Speaker 13 (38:37):
I used to have so much fun, like you know,
I laugh about it and you know, smile at people
while I was, you know, doing what I was doing
out there.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Remind me of my cousin. I remember singing pitch when
he was in little league. He threw the ball hard
and he would peg batters all the time and he
put his glove over his face and just laughing.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
Laugh.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
My cousin blay, like that's your mind. Me up, like
you'd be the site of the knock a dude out
and just like stand.

Speaker 7 (39:03):
Over, start giggling.

Speaker 5 (39:04):
I need to meet him.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
That's because that's exactly what I used to do.

Speaker 13 (39:08):
It would you know, bring joy to my my life
When I was able to impact somebody's.

Speaker 5 (39:13):
It really did upset the parents though.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
When you're in a little league baseball, you've been a kid
who's throwing gas, he's pegging kids left and right or crying,
but he's laughing about it on the mound. It usually
doesn't go over well with the opposing team.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Well, listen, don't getting away

Speaker 7 (39:30):
Don't getting away.
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