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So we will Yeah that's still I don't get that
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Speaker 5 (01:49):
Yeah, Lee, why were you looking that up? And what
does my job any search anything and everything that involves sports. Yeah,
if it involved if it goes that way, that's my job.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
Okay, Yeah, that's my job.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
That's my job.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
That's my job.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's my job.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
So we are we are.
Speaker 6 (02:09):
What about Lee picking up on the day man, night Man?
That was awesome? Did not think you'd be able to
do that?
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Locked and loaded, He's ready to go in any But
is it always Sonny in Pittsburgh or whatever it's.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Called something like that.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Yeah, So apparently the NFL's you know, making changes. Yet again,
there's a play which Brady can break down much much
more than I can or anybody else listening, called cheat motion,
which is it like a is that on that search too?
It may as well be. Is it like the CFL
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play where you get the running start or is it
a little Okay, So that's now not allowed.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So LaVar will remember this too.
Speaker 7 (02:55):
Like they'd be like in a stacked or some sort
of condensed alignment, and then they'd they'd motion the player out,
not like in towards the formation or across, but out
very fast. Sometimes they do it across formations too, but
it was really just to give the wide receiver a
running start and they they'd kind of roll into their
route from there.
Speaker 6 (03:15):
That's essentially what.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
It is, and so that's not not allowed.
Speaker 7 (03:20):
They're putting it in the rules to limit how that's
going to work.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
So like the effectiveness almost of the motion.
Speaker 7 (03:32):
Because it's basically standing, it can't be abrupt which that's
kind of the whole point is you're hoping to catch
the defense where they can't expand or move before the
snap of the football and deal with that sort of motion.
But really it opens up not only that particular player,
but it also opens up really the defense and adjusting,
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especially like a zone coverage that window you know you
motion about whide, the defense adjust they wide. Now it
creates a big or space there in the zone coverage
for the guy who's going to be coming to like
vacate that spot. So that's that's in essence what they're
trying to do. I don't know why they're trying to
outlad or take it away. I mean it was first
really showcased with Tyreek Hill in Miami. San Francisco utilized it,
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the Rams utilized it. The common denominator there is obviously
the Shanahan tree, but outside of that, it wasn't that
widely used, even though it is a copycat league. So
it's just weird, like the battles that the NFL is like, oh,
that needs to get out of here, it's like why.
It actually was really innovative. It worked extremely well. This
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is a league that is always dying for more offensive football.
I have no idea why they trying to get rid
of this.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I mean it's a shame that, you know, the offense
can't catch a break from time to time in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
You know, That's all I've been saying.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Man, everything's slanted towards the defense.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Now you got those shifts, those those quick shifts are
as I recall just generally to try to to confuse
the defense and what the coverage is. It could be
used to give the quarterback recognition of what the coverage is.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Is it difficult as a defender to deal with.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Well, I mean, it just it depends, right, It depends
because it could be you know, it's all about who's
gonna outflank, you know, the the other the other side, Right,
can the defense stay you know, with containment of an offense,
does the offense gain an advantage on getting containment or
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gaining the edges or whatever it may be, or it's
it just depends.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
It depends on what style of a.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Defense that you're in and what you know, how you
play it. You know, when you have certain certain when
you have certain types of defensive schemes, it can ultimately
it can give an offense access to wider plays. When
you do those quick shifts, you might you're obviously going
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to lose a defender because that defender has to go out.
Now you would say, well, that defender would be out
there if you had aligned and had already been out
there anyway. But but just say, for the sake of saying,
depending on which you know, which person shifts out, what
would possibly dictate what what defender shifts out, especially if
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it's a man coverage. So I mean, I don't know,
I mean, I don't feel like I mean I guess
at times depending on how quickly.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like New England. New England did.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
It quite a bit, if I recall correctly, they they
did those quick quick shifts I believe.
Speaker 6 (06:48):
So it's not a shift, it's a motion.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Motion motion, Yeah, yeah, shift motion. I mean, yeah, yeah,
I believe.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So that's well.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
The reason why I bring that up is because they
actually civically outlined in the new rule the way they're.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Wording it that if they move from off the line
of scrimmage off the ball, uh and they change, you know,
that the kind of stands, they then have to come
to a complete stop if they're if they're utilizing this
sort of motion.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
So there is there's a distinct difference between it being
a shift in emotion.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
A shift in emotion.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, yeah, Like I said, I think again, if it's
if it's like a movement, deal.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I mean, do you think it may be because they
can run and crack somebody or or it could be
an end up being a concussion that takes place if
they if they're moving like like I guess, I guess
if I'm interpreting it based off of how you're saying it,
is it a motion for like a kickout?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
Is it a motion for like a.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Wham, you know, like like one of those Uh yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
It's it's not.
Speaker 7 (07:53):
I mean, it's primarily just been motion in order to
be able to create space or get that player with
a running start.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
You know. That's the least what I've I've seen from it.
Speaker 7 (08:03):
So I don't I mean, it's it's odd to me
that again, they're really focusing on this specific rule and
trying to get rid of it.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
Doesn't make any.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Sense, isn't Sean McVeigh on the Competition Committee?
Speaker 6 (08:15):
I believe so, I mean, you know, so that can
only goes so far.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Thought, So then is it just they get in a room,
they start throwing out some ideas what needs to change?
This needs to change, you know, never mind the fumble
out of the back of the end zone resulting in
a touchback and loss of possession. No, we need to
focus on you know, motion and this CFL play that's
now going to be outlawed just kind of I mean,
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like how do they determine what's a problem, what's not
the tush push that's okay, this one's got to go though.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:47):
Again, it's usually about player safety when there's change, and
when when that's not, there's an agenda, there's something else
going on. Maybe they feel like it's unfair, but in
my opinion, all eleven players on defense.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Can move before the snap of the football.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
There's only one player at least in the NFL rules
that's able to move and stay moving like that, not
a shift, but like motion.
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Only one can move at a time.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
So there's still, at least in that sense, an advantage
for the defense.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
And I don't know why you want.
Speaker 7 (09:18):
To limit creativity of offenses being able to come up
with different ways of trying to create more offense. I
mean again, this has been a league that's continually adapted
rules and changed things for defensive players to make it
easier on offensive players.
Speaker 6 (09:33):
So why change that? Why stop that now? It's not
like this rule.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
Change helps offensive players anyway, or offensive coordinators for that matter.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
I mean, I thought that Levar's leap against Illinois, he
should have been ejected from the game and minimum two
games suspension.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
I was on defense, I.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Understand, but that's allowed on defense, and this is I.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Can move however whatever whileever to ever, as long as
it's not across the ball.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I mean, here we go. I just I think it's
a hostile act.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I can be moving while the ball is snapped.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Okay, so why can't Why can't people Why can't people
on offense? I think it's unfair, wrong side of the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Sorry to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
With the way you handle that, I thought it was
disrespectful to everybody involved, disrespectful to the game, and also
kind of rubbing in the offensive face that you can
do things that they can't.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, messed up, man, Thank you.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I mean, I don't know why. I don't know why
you were proud of that. And here we are, all
these years later, Sean McVay is trying to get some guys,
you know, Tyreek kills, trying to get some work, and
they can't do that. But everybody on defense is allowed
to do whatever the hell they want. Yeah, kind of ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Also, I was just talking about movement. We could do
what we want to do movement wise, you know, which
is interesting because you can try to use movement to
disguise blitzes, coverages, you know, app responsibilities, you can you
can try to confuse the offense that way, but the
offense can't do that to you, it's interesting. That is interesting.
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Now I will say that that in a weird type
of way, you make a valid point, Jonas, you aren't
trying to you you aren't tending to. But nonetheless, it
is interesting that we can as defenders, like I could
run over to the sideline if I wanted to. Now
offense can motion over to the sideline or you know,
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they can walk over to the sideline. You know, like
the quarterback could act like they're walking off the field
and that's like considered a motion. But there's rules to
what they're doing, like he can't be going forward when
the ball is snapped, stuff like that. Like us, we
can be doing whatever we want to do.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
So who is it? Was it Johnny Manziel who pretended
like he was running to the sideline and then took
off on a route almost positive was with the Browns,
Like Johnny man Zell acted like he was going off
on the sidelines and then just took off.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
He was he was standing there and.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
He was acting like he was off the field and
then just yeah.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
That's that happens all the time. That's that's like a
you know, hey it's a third down, then get it.
Speaker 6 (12:13):
We're in plus territory.
Speaker 7 (12:15):
Send the punt team out and then you like have
him over there on the sidelines arguing, and then the
coaches tell him when when to go.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
You know what happens, Yeah, gimmick we call. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
Yeah, Well there's that's unfortunate for Tyree killing company. That's
another play out of the books for them. So that's
a problem. Also should mention congratulations to the great city
of Orlando. You get the Pro Bowl next year, so
if anybody cares about that, that's also on the books.
In a small world, I mean, what a waste of
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Speaker 2 (12:54):
Of this Gavenger Hunna at Disney.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, like you know, the third down you go hop
on the tea cups and spin around for a little while.
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my soul?
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The rocking roll and drift away? Come on?
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Uncle Cracker?
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It is a two pros and a cup of Joe.
Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas
knocks with the youth. We are going to have some
over unders coming up here in about a little over
twenty minutes from now here from the ti raq dot
com studios. By the way, I was thinking about this
with the Hall of Fame game last night. Okay, do
you think anybody that bet on Houston was like bitching
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and moaning to their sportsbook to get their money back
because the game wasn't completed due to weather they were
anybody went on and cried and complained?
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Is that like the pussing scorecard?
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yeah, wouldn't they get their money back?
Speaker 4 (15:28):
I don't think so. They shouldn't. I don't think they should.
Speaker 6 (15:32):
Mean because the game wasn't finished, too.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
Bad, it's mother nature. Blame her, all right.
Speaker 6 (15:37):
So you're saying an act of God is gonna wipe that.
It's kind of like the airline industry.
Speaker 7 (15:41):
Right, Yes, Oh sir, unfortunately your flight has been canceled.
It was an act of God. So we cannot give you.
We can't give you anything. You have to sleep here
in the airport tonight. Trying to find.
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Maybe a vetting machine to get some food.
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towards any ride share.
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Company, not to Damed. But yes, feel.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Free to sleep over there in the corner on your
your backpack and your I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
We do provide you this nice, spacious, plush airport for
you to find anywhere, any corner that you possibly can
to get comfortable until well you figure out how you're
going to get home.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
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That's right. Southwest has stepped right up, don't worry.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
So they do boarding Southwest. They do it well.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Typically they say round.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Up, everyone, come round here. It's groomy boarding. Damn the.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Plane.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Now do we have the banjo theme?
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Like?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
What was that banjo theme that Iowa sam and I
think it was just like Iowa was.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Oh my god, we don't need to get on now.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
What what was that banjo theme that I always say
I'm had on his sound wall there.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That is the best bit. That's one of the best
bits of this show. Man, if we ever, if we
haven't ever had the best bits of two pros that
took the case.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh Man, oh, oh it's time I had. Oh it's
time to down board here Southwest group. Now hold up,
come on around here and get all there. Let's push
you down on that. You know. Hey, now you're gonna
pick a seat Eddy, see whatever you want to that's
what you get here, sal.
Speaker 7 (17:33):
The Western Born and his seat you want, just come
on down a groupe board in time.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Time to get on. Groupe groups are one through fifteen
up first out.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
I actually think they're doing away with us.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
I think they're allowing you to around up feed to
pick your seat. Now.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
The last time I flew Southwest, I was with my
wife and son, and like we were stressing out because
you know, we ended up getting b.
Speaker 7 (18:09):
Groups would be if say exactly what you said.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Again, what do you mean?
Speaker 4 (18:16):
I was flying with my wife and son, which one,
Oh come on.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Damn damn.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
So we were we were stressing out because we tried
to board.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
It's such a jerk.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
We tried. So they have this thing, we have this thing.
We have this thing where you've got to bore. You've
got to check in twenty four hours before the flight,
and you know people will like do early check in
and I refuse to pay the extra money for early
check in, so tried to time it just right. Still
ended up in B group and then come to find
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out family boarding supersedes that, so there.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Was no rushes board.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
Yeah, it's like right after the group family boarding goes in,
it's like, Okay, that was a waste of time. Like,
there's no reason to stress out people.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
You gotta be handicapped, Bro, you got to hit that
limp and you got to ask for like a uh,
you got to believe you just said that.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
Why You've got to be handicapped.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, in order to get to it for Southwest in
order to I'm.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
Not going to say right now, Hey, you're not somebody
unless you're handicapped.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Yeah, I'm not going to say anything right now outside
of this. Well LeVar is proposing all right, I've said
in private to a lot of people that is the
Southwest workaround.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Yes that you see, I'm telling you right now.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
I was on a flight one time.
Speaker 7 (19:43):
They had fourteen wheelchairs lined up. It was I was like,
I've never seen anything like this before, done it and
so And here's what I'm saying is when we got
when we got to the destination, they're like, hey, it's
gonna b a while for those of you that you
need assistance and got wheelchairs. And I've never seen so
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many people who are handicapped all of a sudden be
reborn and you walk again, and like we're hopping off
the plane. I'm like, oh, that's what this is about.
This is just a little workaround scheme to try to
get past paying so you can get on the plane first.
Speaker 4 (20:19):
Do you admire the hustle?
Speaker 7 (20:20):
Though I don't personally because I sit there with my
four kids and I'm like, your ass ain't handicapped and
doesn't need to be getting on the plane before I do. Like,
they need to put family boarding because it's such a
it's a chaotic scene. They need to do that before
anything else. But the boarding. You can't do it because
then everyone, all the family's going to take up, you know,
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the best seats, which you can't allow to happen.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
So the whole thing is in that wheelchair. And I
was looking at all those brad Equins and their wives
and their kids, and I was looking at them with
a smirk on my face.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Like got at them the equalizer.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
Wheelchair? What?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
And I limped my ass onto that plane and I
got the seat that I.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Wanted to get good for you, nice leg room all that.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
Oh yeah, from riding that wheelchair, I gets I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Somebody get somebody get Chris back up on the porch, man,
these cats might start tripping.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
There was a movie reference for y'all.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, hey, somebody grab Chris man. Chris was in that
wheelchair and boys in the Hood.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
There's a lot going onto that porch, a lot of conversations,
a lot of a lot of fun stuff.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Man, I mean it is crazy church, you know.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
And like, uh, you know, if they ever do like
a second version of that movie, if they wanted to
get in touch with each other, like you probably just
uh you know, use some radio like device to get
in touch and like reaching out.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
That was funny about that.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
The funniest thing about that is Lead did not tell
me that I was I was in that situation.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I mean, I'm not even.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
What do you what do you mean? I mean, well,
I'm just saying, like, you know, this show's had rapid growth,
like has.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
It had rapid grow?
Speaker 4 (22:15):
The you know, the the movie uh you know boys.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
What movie?
Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like what movie that that had.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Some so when they was calling down they hit the button.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Yeah, they had.
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Speaker 4 (23:56):
Hell.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, there you go. Yeah, we do.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
Of an update on the Meltucker situation, former head coach
of Michigan State. He has filed his lawsuit. He did
so earlier this week, alleging that the university and its
leaders wrongfully terminated and defamed him amid a sexual harassment
scandal last fall. He also, in the seventy five page
(24:22):
lawsuit that was filed in federal court in Michigan, the
accusation against the university was conducting quote an improper, biased,
and sham investigation designed to fire him, violating his right
to do process. He also accused the school of discriminating
against him based on his race. I'm not trying to
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stir the pot here, but isn't that the same school
that gave him ninety million dollars.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So discriminating then? Or maybe they were. Maybe they were
discriminating Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:58):
I mean it just feels I'm not really sure where
this is going, but it does feel like, uh he Now.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Has there been any charges levied against the lady that was,
you know, involved in this situation?
Speaker 2 (25:13):
No, I don't know, no law, no, no fouling against her.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
I don't believe.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
So, don't you guys find out to be a tad
bit curious?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
Meaning going after the school not her.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
I mean I would go after both of us.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Secret I mean the school has more money.
Speaker 1 (25:32):
Yes, agreed, But for the legitimacy and ultimately the you know,
the credibility of what it is that he's going for,
I would sue her as too, Like you're not going
to be sitting here if you were, if you were
knowingly and willingly taking part of these activities with me,
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and you are the catalyst for me being the fame,
for me being discriminated against, for me being out of
all this money and out of my job.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
You won't be a part of this lawsuit too, wouldn't
you think? I mean, I'm just saying, just right out
the gating, that'd be.
Speaker 7 (26:11):
The first thing she'll have to be a part of it,
even taking on the university, right, So, she's going to be,
but I don't know. Maybe, Look, there was a personal
relationship there. I think that's why he's that problem. That's
the point I'm making. You did what I'm saying, So
that's that's where I'm trying to get to. What it
is if if we had a personal relationship and there
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is an understanding between us, but that ends up being
used against me. I want to legitimize the fact that,
like I was set up like this was not her
being unaware, this one not And if I can prove that,
then yes, I would feel like that gives me a
better chance of winning against the university.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
R I'm suing her ass No, well, J.
Speaker 7 (26:53):
I don't think you need to sue her to make
her part of your case against the university.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm suing her. She's going in. She she's gonna have
to sit on to stay in and test She's.
Speaker 7 (27:02):
Gonna have to sit on the stand whether she su testify,
she's gonna have to testify.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
And we're gonna go back into that search history and
you're gonna see porn Hub on there and you go
that she did certainly she used that search engine.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
By the way, do you know how relieved Michigan State
must have been to be like, wait, we can fire
him with cause and get seventy five million dollars back.
I mean, it's not like it was going all that well,
you know, like it did.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Go off the rail as soon as he got that contract.
I know he said he would change once he got
that money, but.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Rich bitch horned up.
Speaker 4 (27:39):
The uh. Now was the highlight from mel Tucker's time
at Michigan State. The fight with Michigan at the Big
House when they assaulted those players.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Was that the No, they had a they had a
really good good season there.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
The one year that would that one year that led
to him.
Speaker 7 (27:56):
Was it a nine or ten win season? It seems
like they were back eleven wins. Yeah, remember they won
the Peach Bowl with Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
He was balling, Oh, you're right, Paul. That was so
that was the second.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Highlight rims on in.
Speaker 7 (28:09):
Paul, think about this. They did so well in that
one season. All right, he's got a winning record where
they went two and five, eleven and two, five and seven,
and then he was two and oh before getting dismissed
in twenty twenty three, and then he was five and
seven of Colorado that one.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Year, ten years, ninety million.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
It did.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
So it's curious.
Speaker 7 (28:31):
It feels like, you know, and we'll see all the
facts and details as they come out, but it felt
like there was a little bit of you know that.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
That played a role in it, like get out of
my head man.
Speaker 7 (28:41):
Well, even even with Northwestern and you're looking at Pat Fitzgeral,
which we haven't heard much about that, Yeah, that was
one where when you looked at his contract, it was
a lifetime contract. Maybe there are some people who wanted
to find a way of getting him out. And that's
the deal with these contracts for coaches now, is you
got to fire him with cause.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
And losing games is not common.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
It's not cau so, but you can connect it to
hazing and there's no way going around it.
Speaker 7 (29:09):
You know, conduct and things of the nature that were
alleged versus Meltucker would be one. But I don't know
enough of the facts about any of it to really
weigh in. I just I think it's interesting that like
these these things like they drag on out forever.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
You know, it did seem like there was people that
came out in defense of Pat Fitzgerald pretty quick. A
lot of people and and I don't know that I've
heard anybody come out really defending Meltucker in this situation.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Discrimination.
Speaker 7 (29:38):
Well, I don't know that it's I don't I don't
think that's the hard thing is that it's a completely
different set of circumstances. I mean, to the bar's point,
it's between two people what it would had taken place,
and you know that's between them. And again, I guess
the facts will come out in a court of law,
but you know, the path it's showed hazing is entirely different.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So yeah, one is directly involved, like you're saying, I'm
directly involved with this if it's hazing, unless you're saying
to my unless you're saying which, by the way, I
have never heard. I had a buddy of my close friend,
my quarterback in high school, one of the dopest coaches out.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
He lost his job over the same thing. I've never heard.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
I've never heard of a coach being a part of
taking part in hazing.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
It's always been a player's.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Thing under his watch.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Come on, man, Like, let's be clear here.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
When something happens under someone's watch, are you saying are
you saying that a coach has to be present for
every single second that they're coaching. They're like parents aren't
around their kids. I'm with you every single second of
(30:58):
the day that takes place. So if something were to happening,
I know you're probably liable though if they're a minor.
But I'm just saying, if a person is getting hazed,
that does not mean that that is the culture that
that coach created.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I just don't. I don't. I'll never understand that one.
I won't. I don't understand that one.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Like take action and fix the environment, like maybe find them,
you know, whatever it may be.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
But to me, like there was an agenda.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
There had to have been an agenda, because who who
encourages hazing?
Speaker 2 (31:35):
Who does it? I've never heard of it.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
That's a foreign concept in sport. Who encourages hazing? Like, hey, guys,
just want to let you guys know before we get
going with today's meeting and talk about the game plan
and what the practice schedule is, make sure you get
those rookies, haze them really good.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Make sure you make them do this. Make sure you
tie them up over here, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Take them up, make sure you do you know, you
guys got to make sure you do it the right way.
Speaker 4 (32:01):
Hey, you seniors, if he's not tied up and electrocuted
by twelve o'clock, you're all right.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You're getting you're getting gas.
Speaker 6 (32:08):
Like what idiot? What you're such a clown?
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Like, all right, hit the showers, guys. Hey, make sure
you get those freshmen right like what hey, I'll be
in there to make sure you guys are doing it
the right way?
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Like what never heard of it?
Speaker 1 (32:35):
I don't get it, Like some of the things that
I hear and I see. I just and Pat Fitzgerald
if you've ever met him, that is a not only
a man's man.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
That is a good dude. That is a good man.
Speaker 6 (32:47):
He's a great man.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
That is a good, good, solid dude.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
There man, that is a very very like to me,
it was one of the more disappointing things that's the
seen take place.
Speaker 7 (32:59):
That's his almost Like that's what's even more hurtful about
it is for a guy who brought at Northwestern, mind
you a lot of success all things considered, like making
it to Big Ten championship games. Yeah, with the Northwestern,
with the academic standards that they've got, with the difficulty
that's that's involved in that making it to Big Ten
(33:20):
championship games. He won the he was the best linebacker fer.
You know, he's a guy who had a storied career there.
So it's it's disappointing when he could have left to
take other jobs and he chose to stay that. Ultimately,
there was probably a few alumni who rubbed the wrong
way or had their own opinion or whatever else and
(33:42):
think about too, like their facilities. He was a big
piece behind that, motivating them to upgrade their facilities for
the players too.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
So it's it's unfortunate. I mean, we could go through
a litany of these.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
I mean people and people in that town wanted the
Bears to hire him at least a couple of times
when they were looking for coaches. They loved him.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
It was clearly discrimination against Pat Fitzgerald man, you know,
I think it was, honestly, I'm with you. I mean,
they heard his name. Some of the people that hated
him just had never seen him. They just heard the name,
and they assumed that they were discriminating against the right
kind of person. And then they realized that, oh wait,
(34:24):
Pat Fitzgerald is one of us. He's not like Larry.
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Speaker 2 (35:37):
Time to put your money where your mouth is.
Speaker 9 (35:39):
I have been losing only aligning low life Gambly to January.
Speaker 4 (35:44):
It's over under all right, lead to lap. How bad
did I bludgeon everybody last week?
Speaker 5 (35:50):
Last week you did a pretty good job, Jonas, You
and Brady were both over on Lebron James points for Serbia.
You lip twenty one over the fifteen and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:57):
That was the set.
Speaker 5 (35:59):
Jonas, you were the old when he took the over
for rounds between Leon Edwards and ball. Ball of course
got the unonymous, unanimous decision. Jonas, you're the only one
who picked the under on contracts signed for all the
wide receivers in the league this week, that of course
being I ceed, Lamb, Jamar Chase and.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa did you sign a contract?
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Well, we only did actually have the the three I
said all, but you said wide receivers.
Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah, I did say all wide receivers.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
But last week it was between just I ced Lamb,
Jamar Chase, Brady Brady. I said it just now, But
last week when I said it, it was you said.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
What did you say last I think I said all
wide receivers.
Speaker 5 (36:39):
No, I said contract signed between Brandon AYUK City, LAMB Jamar.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Chase last week. Brady, do you take an issue with this? Yes, No,
I don't care.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
It's standard Lee.
Speaker 7 (36:50):
There's always a little bit I'm trying to he's discriminating,
discriminate scrap. Oh, I might still see this would actually
be considered a discriminate gate, right if you there was
incriminatory discriminating against you and scrim gate.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
But were you gonna say, I might still.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
I might still have a little bit circulating them my
system right now?
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah, you do. I feel good though.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I don't feel like I'm under the influence in any way,
but maybe I am. Lamar Alans could sneak up on
you might just be popping up, you know right now.
Speaker 5 (37:37):
So the end result was Jonas with at least four
to one, four to one, and you guys on and four.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
That's what we got. Let's bang out this all right,
let's go to this week. I'm up with this.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
We got some uh some Olympic soccer starting in just
an hour between Morocco and US.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
A number of goals in regular times at two and.
Speaker 5 (37:53):
A half under under over All right, guys, Kevin durant
Points versus Porter Rico tomorrow, fifteen and.
Speaker 6 (38:02):
A half over, I'm gonna go over under.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
I love Durantula, he was red hot.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
We got a great uh match here between Terrence Crawford
and h is All Maudromov rounds between the two ten
and a half under.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Over.
Speaker 6 (38:21):
I'm gonna say under, you're.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
Gonna go go to that fight there, Jones, you need.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
To make it. Maybe we don't have a lot of time.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
Get yeah, I'm not willing to. Uh, let's go late
with anybody.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
All right, fellas, contract extensions for Brandon Ayuk by this
time next week at a half.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
What's the under if he gets it done over is
if he doesn't.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
If he gets a contract done, it's over. If he
doesn't get one, it's under.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
I'm gonna under.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
I'm gonna take the over. I think they're under.
Speaker 7 (38:47):
I think they get it done. I saw a video
come out, so I think they'll get it done.
Speaker 5 (38:50):
Under and number of times Petros makes us late to
break this next week one and a half over, come
on over. Yeah, that's a big over and over.
Speaker 4 (39:01):
You guys are in the formatics hell next week I'm
sorry about that in advance. Sorry Lee, I'll take it.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
Why are you a hater because you're going to be out?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Yeah,