August 2, 2024 • 26 mins
"I'm proud of the stuff I did...I don't want to keep doing the same thing"
We're stepping off the field and onto the stage on this legend's conversation. Listen as Frank Caliendo and LaVar Arrington find out that they are more similar than they thought. Frank Caliendo, is a comic genius whose career has spanned many decades. This episode is not packed with your normal Caliendo impressions, rather, Caliendo is looking to take his career to a new level. UP On GAME Presents Conversations With A Legend.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Love Conversations with a Legend, best of show and now
here's LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What's up? Everybody's LeVar Arrington? Here? This is an exciting,
another exciting edition of Conversations with the Legend. You know.
As as as I tell y'all every single week, I
like to keep things spicy. I like to keep things interesting.
We don't just stay in one aspect of legendary talk.
Legends are legends. It doesn't matter if it's in sports,
(00:33):
it doesn't matter if it's in a different industry like, uh, well, comedy,
how about that. Well, my next guest needs no introduction,
but I will bring my friend on the correct way.
One of the best impersonator, celebrity impersonators in the business,
big time contributor to Fox Sports Sunday is this big
show for football and NFL. Yeah, that's right, you know
(00:57):
Fox Talk, you know Fox Fox. That's the guy. You
know I'm talking about, Frank Caleando, my guy, the man,
the myth, the legend. What is up?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I I'm not sure how to follow up that intro,
because at first it sounded like you're almost apologizing for me. No,
and then you no, no, no, no, no, I don't know
but it's like, wait, we don't know what sports and so,
and then it was a huge build up and I
was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah it's a build up.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, the build up, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I got to create a build up.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
You got to listen to the whole thing. You can't
take a piece of the intro. You gotta take the
full five minutes of it set up.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You wouldn't be it wouldn't be legendary if if you
didn't set it up the right way, you know what
I mean. Like I could have came in and been like,
all right, oh, Frank Collando of Fox Sports. Uh, yeah,
he does NFL Sundays, and he does celebrity impersonations very well.
He's done a stint in Vegas, He's he's got shows,
he's he's done CDs. You know, I could have did
(01:59):
all that, but legend it was kind of like a
build it up that way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm just gonna let the last. I'm
always people. It's so funny because when people do introduce me,
they'll say things like, uh, the the Great Frank Caliendo.
And I feel like I should be a magician or
something at that point, right, like I should just appear.
I never know what that, but it's it's always interesting
when somebody says that to me, because I always feel.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Like I'm the least great person out there.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I think it's an odd mentality that I have.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know, you around a lot of athletes. I know,
you're around entertainers and all kinds. You know, whether it's
Fox Sports or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You're in You're in Hollywood, right, You're in La. Yeah,
it's you know, everybody has this belief that they're also
good at everything, and you have to have that in sports, right,
I think you probably have to have that in in
uh entertainment as well.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And that might be my problem.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Uh that I just always feel like I'm just kind
of a regular guy who got lucky.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I feel the same way though, I feel the
same way. You know, I don't I don't look at it.
I don't embrace it though, like you're I approach life
the same exact way you just said it. Like, I
just see myself as a normal dude. I got lucky.
I was I worked hard, you know, my parents gave
me some good genetics, you know, and it just it worked. Out.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know what about in football though, when you played football? Uh,
could you?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I mean, I don't know. Can you play like that feeling?
You've got to feel like you're the guy right.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
When you go out, when you go out on the field.
For me, my mentality was when I went out on
the field, I was coming for your life, right. Yeah.
Like I live by the saying, I'm a warrior that's
in the garden, not a gardener that's in the war,
you know what I mean. So so, but when I
take that helmet off, when that comes off, I'm a
(03:50):
regular dude. Like I'm just as normal. I'm just as
as soft spoken. I don't want any smoke, I don't
want no drama, none of that. But when that guy
comes out, he's a warrior that's in the war. And
I know I knew when I played. I knew what
my job was, I knew what I needed to get done.
I knew what I needed to do to get it done.
(04:11):
And with that came a certain mentality and a certain approach.
But you know, I apply it in certain aspects of
my life, Frank, But I really am kind of I'm
very very low impact, super low impact. I don't I
don't want like the drama he was going after. I
don't want that drama.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I just do you think.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry to turn this back to the
legend that is you instead of me, But I'm interested
in this right now. Do you think a lot of players,
and especially in football, have trouble turning that off?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Like sometimes yeah, that's why guys that some guys do
get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And absolutely absolutely you have.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That mentality and you can't turn off being that person
who's on the field. It's like I always say it
with like you ever hang out with like a person
who sells cars, their car.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Say, and they always sell it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You're a dinner and they're making a deal to pass
the gravy, always like what do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do you You can't turn it off? So it's
like we get wired a certain way. We're trained, and
especially even more now kids although I think kids have
a lot more surrounding them to giving, you know, good
voices and bad but I think there's a lot more
information coming at them to make some good choices. But
they it's one of those things where you are completely
(05:29):
bombarded by that stuff. You turn into the you turn
into a terminator and you can't turn it off.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, how does that work for you? Because if you're
if you're a comic, you have to get into character
to be able to deliver what it is that you delivered.
That's the same thing with us as athletes. We have
to get into character to be able to deliver what
we're delivering. How does that work for you? Are you
able to turn off and on funny and what funny
(05:57):
is and then what being a comedian and doing the
orsations like that mentality? How does that work for you?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I think it goes back to even grade school or
middle I was very quiet and great school. Middle school
I started to come out of my shell a little bit.
I didn't really do impressions and stuff like that yet,
but I did. I would do impressions of friends, like
I remember this guy Darren barsh had like one of
those combs in his back pocket, and his nostrils would
flare and he'd always be doing you know, he'd always
he'd feather his hair back and he just going, dude,
(06:26):
you're right out of a TV show, a terrible eighties
TV show.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
It's just so bad. But so I think, so how
he do it?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
How did he do it? Give me the fool deal.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He just kind of do this and he had this
huge strut like he couldn't even not strut when he
was doing a layup in the basketball line, like he
had this he bounced from side to side. He was
he was pretty athletic guy, but he just would and
he'd just do this and just look around to see
if girls were watching him.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Coomba's hair. So but it was.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
One of those, uh for me. I was very quiet
as a kid. So then in middle school I started
coming out of my shell a little bit. By high school,
I was making fun of, you know, teachers and doing
all that kind of stuff and the impressions. I'd say,
but not so much famous people. Maybe a little bit there.
But I never got in trouble with teachers because I
always knew the right time to do stuff. Like my
(07:20):
parents would go in for teachers' conferences and be like,
Frank is such a leader in class. I never thought
of myself like that, but I would. I could actually
judge the people in the class. I could judge who
wasn't getting stuff, let's say Spanish class, and I could
I could kind of look around the room and go,
this teacher's not explaining this very well. And I'd ask
questions to try and get other people to understand it.
(07:40):
Not that I was the smartest kid in the room,
because I wasn't. I was probably upper third, but I
always had a feeling I could read the audience go,
there's a weird tension in this room. Nobody's understanding what
this person's saying. And I think I think it's a
detriment to me in comedy sometimes because I read the
room a little too much. The best comics, I think
don't care, like Dave Chappelle, guys Bill Burr, people who
(08:04):
really don't care about anything. They just go out and
do their thing and they are playing. They're playing a
little bit to the audience, but they're telling, they're saying
exactly how they feel. And the brilliance of both those
guys and they both are able to do this in
their own way is they hit a topic that you're like, oh,
how did you do that, and then they come back
and hit the other side the other way. They're like, oh,
that's how you did it, and you get in They
(08:26):
get in quote unquote trouble. People come after them, but
it's just so smartly done, and the regular person goes, Okay,
I see what you're doing there. It's a joke. You're
not trying to hurt anybody. That that's really well structured
and brilliant. That's that's I don't have any of that.
But I'm like a puppet Joe.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But it's uh.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
But I watch those guys and I go and people
I go, oh my, that's just brilliant the way because
I'm too scared.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I get scared when it's an edgy type of topic.
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They come with it now, the cancel culture will come
for you.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They don't care. Male female, black, white agents they don't care.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's and it's a weird thing because I really like
to I've always liked to hear different perspectives and I stay,
I feel like you're like that too.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
anytime I've.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Watched you on TV, especially in the last few years,
and listening to the radio or whatever podcast, I say,
you can you have that moment of hold on a second.
I don't agree with this, but let me hear you
out let me hear you out, and then if you
have that ability that a lot of people don't have,
I think nowadays because people love to go after each other,
you have that ability. Okay, I respectfully disagree with what
(09:38):
you're saying, but you have the right to your opinion.
I think it's wrong in what I believe, but I'm
not gonna disrespect until you're a bad person. I think
you come you might have a different point of view,
and that's fine, but just understand I'm not there. But
I'm not gonna call you a terrible, horrific person and
think you're the worst person ever. We still have to
try and get along, and I think that's a that's
(09:59):
a key.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I feel like that's the new business model. The new
business model is not to have differing perspectives. The new
business model is is to can convince the masses that
you have to fully agree with what it is that
my opinion is my opinion, not the facts, because the
facts are falling on their face right now with everything
(10:20):
that's going on in our society and our culture. Frank,
the facts are getting lost. It's the opinions that the business.
The businesses are now able to leverage and are able
to utilize to improve their bottom line. That's what I think.
That's my take on it, because I enjoy having perspective,
(10:42):
But it just seems like when you give perspective now,
perspective that isn't with the masses, that isn't the opinion
of the culture that is ready and sitting there to
cancel you. Whether it is I don't like cats, somebody
wants to cancel you because you don't like cats. What
do you mean you don't like cats? I don't like cats.
I don't trust them. I mean, I'm a nitny. I'm
(11:04):
a nitney line. I like big cats. I don't trust
big cats either, you know what I mean. That's my maskot.
I'm with it, but I'm not trying to have no
cat up in my house. I saw that movie, you
remember the movie where the cat crawled up on the
little kids start sucking the breath out of it and
you can see the air coming out of the kids.
I never trust the cats after that, Frank, I don't
like cats. But you know what, Pete'll come after me.
Even though I'll give you a great response and the
(11:26):
explanation as to why I don't like cats, I'm not
saying I'm gonna kick the hell out of a cat
if I see one, I will see one walking down
the street, I'm gonna kick him across the street. That's
not what I'm saying. I'm just giving perspective. I'd rather
have a dog. I'm in the dogs. Why because they're simpler.
You know, they listen to you, They do what you
want them to do most of all, if you get
the type of breed you want, I got an American bully.
(11:48):
We both like to be lazy. I lay down to sleep,
so does he. We good to go? You need to
go out. You go out. I don't need to be
walking you twenty times a day. There's a different breed
for that and a different person for that breed, right.
But that's that's that's my factual information. That is a
perspective from me. That's it's a fact because it's my
opinion that it's for me, right, it's not factual information
(12:11):
as in, that's a bulldog. That's a bulldog. That's what
it is. Now boom done. Right. It just seems like
every single time you have an opinion these days, people
lose theirs over you not having the same opinion as them.
So I kind of I dig with what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, it's honesty, and I like honesty.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I like people, and I'm honestly I'm being honest here.
I'm not so very I pick a lot of things
I'm gonna do. I'm very careful what I do. I
used to not be. I used to go do everything,
and then you can be you can be put in
these boxes that you.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Don't want to be in.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But that's one of the things I appreciate about you
is the honesty. It's that honest thing where you're coming from.
When you have enough cloud and you have enough and
I don't mean a clout in a negative way.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean in a very.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Positive way, but you have enough courage and you have
enough confidence to do your thing. I talk about this
in my act. One of the most honest people and
you don't have to agree with him or disagree. And
one of the most honest people out there, I believe
it's Charles Barkley, and he comes out there and he
will say things that a lot of people are like,
I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
A couple of years ago, I used this. I talked
about this in my act.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's about Draymond Green. He said, I want to punch
Draymond Breath in the face. Right now, we knew that
he did not really. You know, we've all said that
kind of thing. A guy and a person annoys you,
you want to punch him in the face, you know,
just it's a it's a saying. And he said that,
and everybody went crazy. Not everybody, the media went crazy
on him and said, you've got to apologize now, as
(13:38):
they said, I talked about this in my head. Charles
Barkley's not the kind of guy who reads off a
piece of paper.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I apologize for the following reasons. By lawyer says, I
should be sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's not that. You know, some people will do that.
That's that garbage kind of thing where you just lose
respect for somebody. That's not sir Charles. There's a reason
he's knighted in my head, but that's not him. So
what he did was brilliant. It was the smartest thing
I scene. Uh. To this point is he went on
TV and they made him apologize, but he did it
with something he could live with. He looked directly at
the camera and this is basically what he said, I
(14:09):
apologize for recognizing that Draymond Green has such a punishable face.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So that's what that's kind of what he says. Yes,
but okay, they said I heard the word apology.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He saw No, he just kind of said, you're an
idiot if you can't just and people can disagree. The
great thing about what we can do and say is
agreement and disagreement. But if that's one of those things
where Charles Barkley, I mean, I think he's a smart guy.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I don't know how much he knows about the world.
I don't care. I just know that he's honest. I
just know that he says things he believed.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
What do you.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Listen, Shack? That's what I'm trying to say. You have
to understand. Look look at me, Look at me. Sche
He's trying to But what I was going the wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Way to What do you mean? Chee Chuck? I got
ray I got.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
What you mean. I want that.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I once did a I once did an interview with
that and I got him to do Shack Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
He was doing Trump. He's like, that's luxurious, that's trevendous.
That was the funniest just Shack doing a Trump and
President that was very, very good, very love it, love it.
Oh so funny.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So you got into doing the impressions, and in high
school it carries over you. You start to build a career.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Now, let me help you back. I played, I played, so,
I played sports.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
My dad was a minor league baseball player in the
White Sox organization back in the day.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
So I I grew up playing spur.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I love baseball because my dad always said, you don't
have to be that fast. You don't have to be
that strong, you don't have to I was a zero
tool player, all right. I could hit a little bit,
but they always think they can teach you to hit.
So no, you know, I didn't run, so I wasn't
super fast. It was decent speed for my school and
stuff like that. Once you get into the real world
and see how fast and powerful athletes actually are, you realize,
(16:09):
oh my god, I never had a chance to be
a professional athlete. But we all have those little dreams.
But I grew ulaying sports. I was a catcher in baseball,
and I would mess around with the batters. As the
hitters were up, I would talk to the umpires again
I was reading the audience. I would try and get
the umpire on my side, do some jokes, goofing around,
say some stupid stuff, keep the umpire entertained, and try
(16:30):
and throw the batter off by saying silly stuff. You know,
here's comes of fastball, you know, and obviously, and then
a fastball comes when I told you, you know that
kind of a thing. So that was a lot of
my humor came from sports. I wish I had done
a lot more in like theater, and paid more attention
in history class and English class and.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Those types of things. That's one of the things I
always tell kids.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
If you understand more about history, all different elements of it,
and if you can talk about so many topics and
and be influential in so many other ways, I know nothing.
I mean, people like on Jeopardy, I would be in
the negatives, I would score, I would be I.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Would I would lose horrifically.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Why you think that is because you just don't You
just don't have that type of knowledge base. You just
didn't commit to that knowledge base. You have knowledge, but
it just might not be kind of format it that way.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I think it's part of it. I think I probably
had some type of attention deficit. Type of thing.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I don't know if it's really that or what, but
my mind is you can tell even in this kind
of an interview.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know what. I call it selective brilliance.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
My guy, you're because you're a positive guy.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Well that's what it is, though, like for you to
be able to do what you do and be able
to handle situations the way that you do, Like think
about this, right, and I can. I can sympathize with
this because I do media. People don't realize when that
light goes on and it's live television, there's no doovers
(18:07):
like like film, the show pre recorded, you know, that's
a little different. Podcasting this, that and the other. You
can edit things out. But when you go live and
you gotta do what you do and it's live or
you're in front of an audience and it's live, the
amount of emotional balance, physical balance, mental balance that you
(18:34):
have to create in order to deliver something that is
consumable by the masses, it's brilliance. That's brilliant. For you
to be able to do what you do and deliver
it the way that you do, it's brilliant. So it's
just selected brilliance. That's all it is.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, I thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I one of the things see for me, I get
into a rut where I know things that work right,
I know, and that's the that's heavy on the selective,
and you could have decided the brilliance. But I know
that when I get into a tough jam, I can
always go to an impression.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's like a crutch. It's a full on stretchers what
it is. It's not just a crutch.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It's it's the paramedics coming to save the day or
the jaws of life, right, So I know I can
go into that because anytime something goes wrong, I could
in the in the old days, I could just describe
it as John Madam because you've got this over here.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And a bant to say this and then.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Meant so I could do that, and then later it
was Morgan Freeman explained, and.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
That's why they realized that Frank kelly Ida had no
idea what he was talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So I could go to one of those things that
saved the day. So it wasn't even what I was
always saying.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Right away in the middle of this delivered fixing it,
and I could fix it with the puppets that are
these impressions. Yeah, I mean part of my difficulty is
I've always learned by repetition.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And let's tie this into sports for a second, but
you know you that's how you learn.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
That's you train, right, you train to become you train
to become let's say, an assassin in football. If you're
gonna you're you're you're gonna break down, make the tackle.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
You're probably looking at hips, right, is that where you're
looking at the stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I was a shoulder stocker. I stocked the shoulder. But
we are creatures. But that's what creatures. That's what you had.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You so you get so you stopped them shoulders.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I stocked the shoulder, So.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
You go that.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So let's say you you you do the predator, you
have the it's all coming in there, right, It's all
everything is that you're infrared in front of you. Now,
when you train something, you do it over and over
and over. But game, what happens in the game is
there's audibles, not in not talking that about that the
line that a guy does something, a person does something
you've never seen before.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And now you have to react.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And I think that's a difference between like let's say
college football and NFL. In college, the guy that you're
gonna tackle probably is trained to do something too. At
that next level, all of a sudden, they've trained to
do six or seven things.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
And you're like you yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's and and the amount of work that goes into
that and learning you know each other that I've heard
that so many times, and you know from professional athletes,
just that the amount of people I don't think the
lay person, I don't even think I understood it going
in the amount of work that goes into becoming a
professional athlete at the highest level, it's a full time
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it's more than a full time job at your life
an it's obsession.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's that's why I didn't become a Pro Football Hall
of Famer because I was always a person that played football.
I was never a football player.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
See I see, I see where I think we're even
more similar.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I thought, that's why I see myself as as a
person who's in entertainment. I always see myself as a
regular guy who got lucky to be able to do,
you know, figure some things out with some voices and
stuff like that, but kind of just a regular person.
So you had some genetics to that could let you
to play the game of football.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And I had some physical tools that allowed me to
do what I do with.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Impressions and voices and that type of stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Uh, it's it's, it's there's But I always see myself
as this person that you meet, a person that's I
meet a person that's like an actor, the highest level
of actor, and I'm like, I don't know if I
could get there just living it constantly.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My last question, which I always ask every legend at
the end of my interview, is when it's all said
and done and they're looking down on your body or whatever,
your your memorial, whatever it is, the pictures on the side,
whatever it may be, what is it that it would
mean the most to you for the people that are
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there to honor you, to say, what what do you
want Frank Collendo's legacy to be? What do you want
to leave behind? How you want to be remembered?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Honestly, I don't know if I want this.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I guess a piece of me does, and it's gonna
sound I think it's probably.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
That I did that.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
My wife and I did a good job with our kids.
I know people, but it's that seems to be my
whole life, whether I gave up on myself or or
I just thought, you know what I brought these you know,
help bring these people into the world. I you know,
we always hear the thing that we want our kids
to do better than us. I think there's a piece
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that as far as a selfish thing, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I think I would. I would love to be he was,
you know he was he really made a lot of
people laugh or feel something.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think I'm hoping I'm not done with that yet
because I think I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Not sure people would say that.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I think some people would say laugh, but I don't
know if they would say it made me feel something
important is in my life, change my life, helped me
change my life. That's that's like, that's probably my selfish
thing of what I would like people to think that
I changed people's lives and help people. I and I
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do some things.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Listen, this is self, uh, you know, patting myself on
the back.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I got some friends that I've helped go to some
different camps and you know, ath lotic camps and stuff
like that. I don't you know, they might not have
had the means or something like that, but I never
and I wouldn't say who it is, but I wouldn't
publish it.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
But I I like to be a part of helping people.
I really do, and I don't I guess this.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Is I'm saying it right now, which feels like it's hypocritical,
But I think you're like. I feel like you and
I are very similar in these ways, like you like
and you can tell me if I'm wrong, but.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's I like to I like to be part of
helping somebody else succeed. And I don't mind. I don't
mind getting the assist, you know, and sometimes you don't
get I.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Don't mind getting any credit. Yeah, I don't even want
any credit. I just I just want to see people win.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, And every once in a while I'll look for
credit and people like you didn't, I mean, they do that,
like okay, you know, but it's like there is a
little piece of you that sometimes wishes you did have that.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But it's a little bit. It's it's not why you
do it.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You do it because there's something in you that goes
I did something good for somebody. So yeah, I would
think I'd like to be remembered in those terms.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I don't know. I have a tough time.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I have a tough time even figuring that out. I
think I think people who are I think people who
know that they are, they're at the highest of highest levels.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Frank, it's been a pleasure man. Like I said, I
could do this all day with you. So we'll we'll schedule,
we'll we'll do another. Yeah, we'll set.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
We'll throw more impressions and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We're gonna come back, we won't do something. We won't
do this again. But I really appreciate take the time, man,
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Hm
Love Conversations with a Legend, best of show and now
here's LeVar Arrington.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
What's up? Everybody's LeVar Arrington? Here? This is an exciting,
another exciting edition of Conversations with the Legend. You know.
As as as I tell y'all every single week, I
like to keep things spicy. I like to keep things interesting.
We don't just stay in one aspect of legendary talk.
Legends are legends. It doesn't matter if it's in sports,
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it doesn't matter if it's in a different industry like, uh, well, comedy,
how about that. Well, my next guest needs no introduction,
but I will bring my friend on the correct way.
One of the best impersonator, celebrity impersonators in the business,
big time contributor to Fox Sports Sunday is this big
show for football and NFL. Yeah, that's right, you know
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Fox Talk, you know Fox Fox. That's the guy. You
know I'm talking about, Frank Caleando, my guy, the man,
the myth, the legend. What is up?
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I I'm not sure how to follow up that intro,
because at first it sounded like you're almost apologizing for me. No,
and then you no, no, no, no, no, I don't know
but it's like, wait, we don't know what sports and so,
and then it was a huge build up and I
was like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah it's a build up.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, the build up, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
I got it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
I got to create a build up.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
You got to listen to the whole thing. You can't
take a piece of the intro. You gotta take the
full five minutes of it set up.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
You wouldn't be it wouldn't be legendary if if you
didn't set it up the right way, you know what
I mean. Like I could have came in and been like,
all right, oh, Frank Collando of Fox Sports. Uh, yeah,
he does NFL Sundays, and he does celebrity impersonations very well.
He's done a stint in Vegas, He's he's got shows,
he's he's done CDs. You know, I could have did
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all that, but legend it was kind of like a
build it up that way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm just gonna let the last. I'm
always people. It's so funny because when people do introduce me,
they'll say things like, uh, the the Great Frank Caliendo.
And I feel like I should be a magician or
something at that point, right, like I should just appear.
I never know what that, but it's it's always interesting
when somebody says that to me, because I always feel.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Like I'm the least great person out there.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I think it's an odd mentality that I have.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You know, you around a lot of athletes. I know,
you're around entertainers and all kinds. You know, whether it's
Fox Sports or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
You're in You're in Hollywood, right, You're in La. Yeah,
it's you know, everybody has this belief that they're also
good at everything, and you have to have that in sports, right,
I think you probably have to have that in in
uh entertainment as well.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
And that might be my problem.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Uh that I just always feel like I'm just kind
of a regular guy who got lucky.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I feel the same way though, I feel the
same way. You know, I don't I don't look at it.
I don't embrace it though, like you're I approach life
the same exact way you just said it. Like, I
just see myself as a normal dude. I got lucky.
I was I worked hard, you know, my parents gave
me some good genetics, you know, and it just it worked. Out.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
You know what about in football though, when you played football? Uh,
could you?
Speaker 4 (03:24):
I mean, I don't know. Can you play like that feeling?
You've got to feel like you're the guy right.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
When you go out, when you go out on the field.
For me, my mentality was when I went out on
the field, I was coming for your life, right. Yeah.
Like I live by the saying, I'm a warrior that's
in the garden, not a gardener that's in the war,
you know what I mean. So so, but when I
take that helmet off, when that comes off, I'm a
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regular dude. Like I'm just as normal. I'm just as
as soft spoken. I don't want any smoke, I don't
want no drama, none of that. But when that guy
comes out, he's a warrior that's in the war. And
I know I knew when I played. I knew what
my job was, I knew what I needed to get done.
I knew what I needed to do to get it done.
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And with that came a certain mentality and a certain approach.
But you know, I apply it in certain aspects of
my life, Frank, But I really am kind of I'm
very very low impact, super low impact. I don't I
don't want like the drama he was going after. I
don't want that drama.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
I just do you think.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry to turn this back to the
legend that is you instead of me, But I'm interested
in this right now. Do you think a lot of players,
and especially in football, have trouble turning that off?
Speaker 4 (04:44):
Like sometimes yeah, that's why guys that some guys do
get in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
And absolutely absolutely you have.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That mentality and you can't turn off being that person
who's on the field. It's like I always say it
with like you ever hang out with like a person
who sells cars, their car.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Say, and they always sell it.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
You're a dinner and they're making a deal to pass
the gravy, always like what do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
How do you You can't turn it off? So it's
like we get wired a certain way. We're trained, and
especially even more now kids although I think kids have
a lot more surrounding them to giving, you know, good
voices and bad but I think there's a lot more
information coming at them to make some good choices. But
they it's one of those things where you are completely
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bombarded by that stuff. You turn into the you turn
into a terminator and you can't turn it off.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, how does that work for you? Because if you're
if you're a comic, you have to get into character
to be able to deliver what it is that you delivered.
That's the same thing with us as athletes. We have
to get into character to be able to deliver what
we're delivering. How does that work for you? Are you
able to turn off and on funny and what funny
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is and then what being a comedian and doing the
orsations like that mentality? How does that work for you?
Speaker 4 (06:03):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I think it goes back to even grade school or
middle I was very quiet and great school. Middle school
I started to come out of my shell a little bit.
I didn't really do impressions and stuff like that yet,
but I did. I would do impressions of friends, like
I remember this guy Darren barsh had like one of
those combs in his back pocket, and his nostrils would
flare and he'd always be doing you know, he'd always
he'd feather his hair back and he just going, dude,
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you're right out of a TV show, a terrible eighties
TV show.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
It's just so bad. But so I think, so how
he do it?
Speaker 2 (06:34):
How did he do it? Give me the fool deal.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
He just kind of do this and he had this
huge strut like he couldn't even not strut when he
was doing a layup in the basketball line, like he
had this he bounced from side to side. He was
he was pretty athletic guy, but he just would and
he'd just do this and just look around to see
if girls were watching him.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Coomba's hair. So but it was.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
One of those, uh for me. I was very quiet
as a kid. So then in middle school I started
coming out of my shell a little bit. By high school,
I was making fun of, you know, teachers and doing
all that kind of stuff and the impressions. I'd say,
but not so much famous people. Maybe a little bit there.
But I never got in trouble with teachers because I
always knew the right time to do stuff. Like my
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parents would go in for teachers' conferences and be like,
Frank is such a leader in class. I never thought
of myself like that, but I would. I could actually
judge the people in the class. I could judge who
wasn't getting stuff, let's say Spanish class, and I could
I could kind of look around the room and go,
this teacher's not explaining this very well. And I'd ask
questions to try and get other people to understand it.
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Not that I was the smartest kid in the room,
because I wasn't. I was probably upper third, but I
always had a feeling I could read the audience go,
there's a weird tension in this room. Nobody's understanding what
this person's saying. And I think I think it's a
detriment to me in comedy sometimes because I read the
room a little too much. The best comics, I think
don't care, like Dave Chappelle, guys Bill Burr, people who
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really don't care about anything. They just go out and
do their thing and they are playing. They're playing a
little bit to the audience, but they're telling, they're saying
exactly how they feel. And the brilliance of both those
guys and they both are able to do this in
their own way is they hit a topic that you're like, oh,
how did you do that, and then they come back
and hit the other side the other way. They're like, oh,
that's how you did it, and you get in They
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get in quote unquote trouble. People come after them, but
it's just so smartly done, and the regular person goes, Okay,
I see what you're doing there. It's a joke. You're
not trying to hurt anybody. That that's really well structured
and brilliant. That's that's I don't have any of that.
But I'm like a puppet Joe.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
But it's uh.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
But I watch those guys and I go and people
I go, oh my, that's just brilliant the way because
I'm too scared.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
I get scared when it's an edgy type of topic.
I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
They come with it now, the cancel culture will come
for you.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
They don't care. Male female, black, white agents they don't care.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
It's and it's a weird thing because I really like
to I've always liked to hear different perspectives and I stay,
I feel like you're like that too.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
anytime I've.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Watched you on TV, especially in the last few years,
and listening to the radio or whatever podcast, I say,
you can you have that moment of hold on a second.
I don't agree with this, but let me hear you
out let me hear you out, and then if you
have that ability that a lot of people don't have,
I think nowadays because people love to go after each other,
you have that ability. Okay, I respectfully disagree with what
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you're saying, but you have the right to your opinion.
I think it's wrong in what I believe, but I'm
not gonna disrespect until you're a bad person. I think
you come you might have a different point of view,
and that's fine, but just understand I'm not there. But
I'm not gonna call you a terrible, horrific person and
think you're the worst person ever. We still have to
try and get along, and I think that's a that's
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a key.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I feel like that's the new business model. The new
business model is not to have differing perspectives. The new
business model is is to can convince the masses that
you have to fully agree with what it is that
my opinion is my opinion, not the facts, because the
facts are falling on their face right now with everything
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that's going on in our society and our culture. Frank,
the facts are getting lost. It's the opinions that the business.
The businesses are now able to leverage and are able
to utilize to improve their bottom line. That's what I think.
That's my take on it, because I enjoy having perspective,
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But it just seems like when you give perspective now,
perspective that isn't with the masses, that isn't the opinion
of the culture that is ready and sitting there to
cancel you. Whether it is I don't like cats, somebody
wants to cancel you because you don't like cats. What
do you mean you don't like cats? I don't like cats.
I don't trust them. I mean, I'm a nitny. I'm
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a nitney line. I like big cats. I don't trust
big cats either, you know what I mean. That's my maskot.
I'm with it, but I'm not trying to have no
cat up in my house. I saw that movie, you
remember the movie where the cat crawled up on the
little kids start sucking the breath out of it and
you can see the air coming out of the kids.
I never trust the cats after that, Frank, I don't
like cats. But you know what, Pete'll come after me.
Even though I'll give you a great response and the
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explanation as to why I don't like cats, I'm not
saying I'm gonna kick the hell out of a cat
if I see one, I will see one walking down
the street, I'm gonna kick him across the street. That's
not what I'm saying. I'm just giving perspective. I'd rather
have a dog. I'm in the dogs. Why because they're simpler.
You know, they listen to you, They do what you
want them to do most of all, if you get
the type of breed you want, I got an American bully.
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We both like to be lazy. I lay down to sleep,
so does he. We good to go? You need to
go out. You go out. I don't need to be
walking you twenty times a day. There's a different breed
for that and a different person for that breed, right.
But that's that's that's my factual information. That is a
perspective from me. That's it's a fact because it's my
opinion that it's for me, right, it's not factual information
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as in, that's a bulldog. That's a bulldog. That's what
it is. Now boom done. Right. It just seems like
every single time you have an opinion these days, people
lose theirs over you not having the same opinion as them.
So I kind of I dig with what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, it's honesty, and I like honesty.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I like people, and I'm honestly I'm being honest here.
I'm not so very I pick a lot of things
I'm gonna do. I'm very careful what I do. I
used to not be. I used to go do everything,
and then you can be you can be put in
these boxes that you.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Don't want to be in.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But that's one of the things I appreciate about you
is the honesty. It's that honest thing where you're coming from.
When you have enough cloud and you have enough and
I don't mean a clout in a negative way.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
I mean in a very.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Positive way, but you have enough courage and you have
enough confidence to do your thing. I talk about this
in my act. One of the most honest people and
you don't have to agree with him or disagree. And
one of the most honest people out there, I believe
it's Charles Barkley, and he comes out there and he
will say things that a lot of people are like,
I can't believe he said that.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
A couple of years ago, I used this. I talked
about this in my act.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
It's about Draymond Green. He said, I want to punch
Draymond Breath in the face. Right now, we knew that
he did not really. You know, we've all said that
kind of thing. A guy and a person annoys you,
you want to punch him in the face, you know,
just it's a it's a saying. And he said that,
and everybody went crazy. Not everybody, the media went crazy
on him and said, you've got to apologize now, as
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they said, I talked about this in my head. Charles
Barkley's not the kind of guy who reads off a
piece of paper.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I apologize for the following reasons. By lawyer says, I
should be sorry.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's not that. You know, some people will do that.
That's that garbage kind of thing where you just lose
respect for somebody. That's not sir Charles. There's a reason
he's knighted in my head, but that's not him. So
what he did was brilliant. It was the smartest thing
I scene. Uh. To this point is he went on
TV and they made him apologize, but he did it
with something he could live with. He looked directly at
the camera and this is basically what he said, I
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apologize for recognizing that Draymond Green has such a punishable face.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
So that's what that's kind of what he says. Yes,
but okay, they said I heard the word apology.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
He saw No, he just kind of said, you're an
idiot if you can't just and people can disagree. The
great thing about what we can do and say is
agreement and disagreement. But if that's one of those things
where Charles Barkley, I mean, I think he's a smart guy.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
I don't know how much he knows about the world.
I don't care. I just know that he's honest. I
just know that he says things he believed.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
What do you.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Listen, Shack? That's what I'm trying to say. You have
to understand. Look look at me, Look at me. Sche
He's trying to But what I was going the wrong.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Way to What do you mean? Chee Chuck? I got
ray I got.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
What you mean. I want that.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
I once did a I once did an interview with
that and I got him to do Shack Trump.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
He was doing Trump. He's like, that's luxurious, that's trevendous.
That was the funniest just Shack doing a Trump and
President that was very, very good, very love it, love it.
Oh so funny.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So you got into doing the impressions, and in high
school it carries over you. You start to build a career.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Now, let me help you back. I played, I played, so,
I played sports.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
My dad was a minor league baseball player in the
White Sox organization back in the day.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
So I I grew up playing spur.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
I love baseball because my dad always said, you don't
have to be that fast. You don't have to be
that strong, you don't have to I was a zero
tool player, all right. I could hit a little bit,
but they always think they can teach you to hit.
So no, you know, I didn't run, so I wasn't
super fast. It was decent speed for my school and
stuff like that. Once you get into the real world
and see how fast and powerful athletes actually are, you realize,
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oh my god, I never had a chance to be
a professional athlete. But we all have those little dreams.
But I grew ulaying sports. I was a catcher in baseball,
and I would mess around with the batters. As the
hitters were up, I would talk to the umpires again
I was reading the audience. I would try and get
the umpire on my side, do some jokes, goofing around,
say some stupid stuff, keep the umpire entertained, and try
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and throw the batter off by saying silly stuff. You know,
here's comes of fastball, you know, and obviously, and then
a fastball comes when I told you, you know that
kind of a thing. So that was a lot of
my humor came from sports. I wish I had done
a lot more in like theater, and paid more attention
in history class and English class and.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
Those types of things. That's one of the things I
always tell kids.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
If you understand more about history, all different elements of it,
and if you can talk about so many topics and
and be influential in so many other ways, I know nothing.
I mean, people like on Jeopardy, I would be in
the negatives, I would score, I would be I.
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Would I would lose horrifically.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Why you think that is because you just don't You
just don't have that type of knowledge base. You just
didn't commit to that knowledge base. You have knowledge, but
it just might not be kind of format it that way.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
I think it's part of it. I think I probably
had some type of attention deficit. Type of thing.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
I don't know if it's really that or what, but
my mind is you can tell even in this kind
of an interview.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know what. I call it selective brilliance.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
My guy, you're because you're a positive guy.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
That's why.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Well that's what it is, though, like for you to
be able to do what you do and be able
to handle situations the way that you do, Like think
about this, right, and I can. I can sympathize with
this because I do media. People don't realize when that
light goes on and it's live television, there's no doovers
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like like film, the show pre recorded, you know, that's
a little different. Podcasting this, that and the other. You
can edit things out. But when you go live and
you gotta do what you do and it's live or
you're in front of an audience and it's live, the
amount of emotional balance, physical balance, mental balance that you
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have to create in order to deliver something that is
consumable by the masses, it's brilliance. That's brilliant. For you
to be able to do what you do and deliver
it the way that you do, it's brilliant. So it's
just selected brilliance. That's all it is.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Well, I thank you.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I one of the things see for me, I get
into a rut where I know things that work right,
I know, and that's the that's heavy on the selective,
and you could have decided the brilliance. But I know
that when I get into a tough jam, I can
always go to an impression.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's like a crutch. It's a full on stretchers what
it is. It's not just a crutch.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
It's it's the paramedics coming to save the day or
the jaws of life, right, So I know I can
go into that because anytime something goes wrong, I could
in the in the old days, I could just describe
it as John Madam because you've got this over here.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And a bant to say this and then.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Meant so I could do that, and then later it
was Morgan Freeman explained, and.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
That's why they realized that Frank kelly Ida had no
idea what he was talking about.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
So I could go to one of those things that
saved the day. So it wasn't even what I was
always saying.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Right away in the middle of this delivered fixing it,
and I could fix it with the puppets that are
these impressions. Yeah, I mean part of my difficulty is
I've always learned by repetition.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
And let's tie this into sports for a second, but
you know you that's how you learn.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
That's you train, right, you train to become you train
to become let's say, an assassin in football. If you're
gonna you're you're you're gonna break down, make the tackle.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
You're probably looking at hips, right, is that where you're
looking at the stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I was a shoulder stocker. I stocked the shoulder. But
we are creatures. But that's what creatures. That's what you had.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
You so you get so you stopped them shoulders.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
I stocked the shoulder, So.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
You go that.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
So let's say you you you do the predator, you
have the it's all coming in there, right, It's all
everything is that you're infrared in front of you. Now,
when you train something, you do it over and over
and over. But game, what happens in the game is
there's audibles, not in not talking that about that the
line that a guy does something, a person does something
you've never seen before.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And now you have to react.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
And I think that's a difference between like let's say
college football and NFL. In college, the guy that you're
gonna tackle probably is trained to do something too. At
that next level, all of a sudden, they've trained to
do six or seven things.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
And you're like you yes, yes, and.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
That's and and the amount of work that goes into
that and learning you know each other that I've heard
that so many times, and you know from professional athletes,
just that the amount of people I don't think the
lay person, I don't even think I understood it going
in the amount of work that goes into becoming a
professional athlete at the highest level, it's a full time
(21:26):
it's more than a full time job at your life
an it's obsession.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
That's that's why I didn't become a Pro Football Hall
of Famer because I was always a person that played football.
I was never a football player.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
See I see, I see where I think we're even
more similar.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I thought, that's why I see myself as as a
person who's in entertainment. I always see myself as a
regular guy who got lucky to be able to do,
you know, figure some things out with some voices and
stuff like that, but kind of just a regular person.
So you had some genetics to that could let you
to play the game of football.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
And I had some physical tools that allowed me to
do what I do with.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
Impressions and voices and that type of stuff.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Uh, it's it's, it's there's But I always see myself
as this person that you meet, a person that's I
meet a person that's like an actor, the highest level
of actor, and I'm like, I don't know if I
could get there just living it constantly.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
My last question, which I always ask every legend at
the end of my interview, is when it's all said
and done and they're looking down on your body or whatever,
your your memorial, whatever it is, the pictures on the side,
whatever it may be, what is it that it would
mean the most to you for the people that are
(22:48):
there to honor you, to say, what what do you
want Frank Collendo's legacy to be? What do you want
to leave behind? How you want to be remembered?
Speaker 4 (23:01):
Honestly, I don't know if I want this.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I guess a piece of me does, and it's gonna
sound I think it's probably.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
That I did that.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
My wife and I did a good job with our kids.
I know people, but it's that seems to be my
whole life, whether I gave up on myself or or
I just thought, you know what I brought these you know,
help bring these people into the world. I you know,
we always hear the thing that we want our kids
to do better than us. I think there's a piece
(23:35):
that as far as a selfish thing, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
I think I would. I would love to be he was,
you know he was he really made a lot of
people laugh or feel something.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think I'm hoping I'm not done with that yet
because I think I'm.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Not sure people would say that.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
I think some people would say laugh, but I don't
know if they would say it made me feel something
important is in my life, change my life, helped me
change my life. That's that's like, that's probably my selfish
thing of what I would like people to think that
I changed people's lives and help people. I and I
(24:15):
do some things.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Listen, this is self, uh, you know, patting myself on
the back.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
I got some friends that I've helped go to some
different camps and you know, ath lotic camps and stuff
like that. I don't you know, they might not have
had the means or something like that, but I never
and I wouldn't say who it is, but I wouldn't
publish it.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
But I I like to be a part of helping people.
I really do, and I don't I guess this.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Is I'm saying it right now, which feels like it's hypocritical,
But I think you're like. I feel like you and
I are very similar in these ways, like you like
and you can tell me if I'm wrong, but.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
It's I like to I like to be part of
helping somebody else succeed. And I don't mind. I don't
mind getting the assist, you know, and sometimes you don't
get I.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Don't mind getting any credit. Yeah, I don't even want
any credit. I just I just want to see people win.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Yeah, And every once in a while I'll look for
credit and people like you didn't, I mean, they do that,
like okay, you know, but it's like there is a
little piece of you that sometimes wishes you did have that.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
But it's a little bit. It's it's not why you
do it.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
You do it because there's something in you that goes
I did something good for somebody. So yeah, I would
think I'd like to be remembered in those terms.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
I don't know. I have a tough time.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I have a tough time even figuring that out. I
think I think people who are I think people who
know that they are, they're at the highest of highest levels.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
Frank, it's been a pleasure man. Like I said, I
could do this all day with you. So we'll we'll schedule,
we'll we'll do another. Yeah, we'll set.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
We'll throw more impressions and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We're gonna come back, we won't do something. We won't
do this again. But I really appreciate take the time, man,
(26:18):
Hm
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