August 5, 2024 • 35 mins
The guys react to the pole-vault fail seen around the world. Joe Milton is overtaking Drake Maye in New England. Jon Gruden is helping out in Kansas City. Davante Adams weighs in on the Raiders QB competition and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:33):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Day. He blamed it on the poll vote. Yeah, we
we do have an update.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
There's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. I'm Britty Quinn,
that's LeVar Arrington. No choice knocks for this week out.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
You know, suspend it on ped vlations, So I don't
know about that, but we do. We do have an update.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
One LaVar Arrington has found the clip of the French
or Italian look looked like he's French, French, French with
an Italian last name, so a little confusing there, but yeah,
you did.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Find the video clip. Now.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I tried to point out to Lee he wasn't getting
over regardless, because he clipped the bar with his calf
or knee whatever, and then as subsequently was insults and
injury with hitting his junk.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's not fair to say he did hit it with
his first right, like there was no chance I was
going to stay on it might have. It might have
stayed on like sometimes you can touch it. You can
touch it and it will it probably you're probably right.
It probably would have bounced off it like compressed it.
(01:53):
It probably would have bounced off. But I mean, but
his his what we're saying, remember his friend, I say, junk. Yeah,
the best if I was in that, if I was
in that.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Position, by the way, and if you want, I mean
I can, I can go ahead and go through a
little play by play if you will.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, let's do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What was the guy's name again, A'maradi was his last name,
Anthony Anthony Amuradi. There you go, as I say, if
it's an Italian last name, you throw Anthony in the front,
nine times out of ten, you're gonna probably hit right.
So So and here we are at the twenty twenty
four Paris Olympic Games as Anthony Almaradi is preparing for.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
His pole vault.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
This is his last and final attempt to try to
advance into the next round.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And here goes Anthony. He's got the height, he gets oh,
and he comes to oh, oh, my.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Goodness, the crowd, ladies and gentlemen. His legs, his legs
got in the way of that one. He will not
qualify to be able to place. However, the entire world
has now been put on notice as far as what
Anthony is carrying at his pants.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So Anthony is probably overnight sex symbol in his country.
That's all I'm gonna say. Good for you, Anthony. You
might not have won the gold medal in the Olympics,
but you are now a celebrity in the real world.
(03:21):
Does this do more for the French or the Italians,
given he's an Italian guy living in France. That's a
great question. Q, It's a great question. I think they
both will get credit. I think they certainly will both
get credit. But but Anthony himself has boosted himself, has
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grown in popularity. I'm sure has exploded in popularity after
this viral video of him failing. I mean, who becomes
famous off of failing? Yeah, that's that's that's a great,
great question. Good point.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I will also point out that the Olympics. Okay, I'm
glad someone's proud of them. The Olympics are actually started
back up. A lot of live events going on right now.
The women's gymnastics beam competition is going on. Simone Biles
is about ready to go. She will be lasting that event.
She actually got a bronze. The past couple Olympics, she's
(04:25):
never gotten a gold. This is setting up really well
for her to win her first gold on the beam
at the Olympics. But I didn't want to. I didn't
want to point out one. Speaking of their growing popularity,
one of the girls I believe she was competing for
Brazil as a women's gymnastics or gymnasts. She had started
off They were sending her Instagram account. It started off
(04:46):
with like maybe twenty thirty some thousand followers. She has
over two million, over two million, just from the exposure
in the Olympic Games.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Think about that. How crazy that would be. But seriously, time,
I mean, if you figure if those are real followers,
she's now monetizable, and that's you know, that's an interesting topic.
Q coming out of all of this is that guy
Anthony probably if he has social media, he's probably probably
(05:16):
in the millions now too, but he might be also
part of some of those spam you know, things that
go out there. But you got a blue cheer read
coming up. So yeah, I do, I do, I definitely do.
But you know, it's it's interesting that in in the
past you're you're probably monetizing as as a successful olympian
(05:39):
through you know, appearances, you know, speaking engagements and stuff
like that. But now you're talking about if you get
that followership across your your platforms of social media, you know,
the advertisers are going to monetize you and it's much more.
You have to assume there's much more opportunity to be
(06:02):
lucrative in post Olympic success than what it ever has period,
you know. So that's interesting thought. It is interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You've always been a big, one, big advocate for social media. I,
on the other hand, not so much. And I do
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camp updates. We talked in the first hour about whether
or not the brown should play to Shaun Watson. A
little different conversation when it's a veteran who you've seen
produce on the field. Maybe not in Cleveland so much,
but in Houston you have in comparison to a rookie,
and in this case, Jade and Daniels the presumed to
(06:53):
be starting quarterback for the Washington Commandos. He will be
getting the start in the preseason versus the Jets. This
there's really no surprise for those that I think, No
dan Quinn, they're a new head coach and how he operates. However,
it is in contrast to what we saw from the Bears, which,
granted Hall of Fame game, did not start the number
one overall pick Caleb Williams. Is this how you would
(07:16):
you think things should be done? Like, if this is
going to be your guy, even though he's a rookie,
he still needs to get out there and get some
live reps in to adjust to the speed of the game.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Is that fair in your mind? LeVar? Yes, yes, why
not get the man some reps? I'm still I am
still trying to figure out and understand. Why do you
not get him a few game reps. I mean, this
is a rookie, so he's never played in a National
Football League game before ever in his life. He doesn't
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know what that feels like, he doesn't know what that
looks like. His body doesn't know, his mental doesn't know.
And whether or not you're playing against starters or not,
don't you want to give this guy an opportunity immediately
to say, you know what, I got it out of
my system. I got onto the field, I played a
couple of downs, it felt good. I got out of
(08:07):
there like like building from it moving on. I just
think that's it's overstated. The whole like, and I know
you're on the offense side of the ball and you
are quarterback, so you could tell me I'm wrong, But
the whole idea of you're like, I'm holding you out
because you're going to get injured. I think it's an
(08:28):
overstated conversation. I do.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think for veterans it's different. When you've got a
guy who's solidified, there's really no need I think, in
my mind nowadays to put him in in harm's way
a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I agree, I'm okay, with that.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I'm okay with that in this case to your point
that at every step, every step of the way for rookies,
there is a transition to the speed of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
We always talk about that topic of speed of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
When you first get to practice, there's an adjustment period,
usually indoctrinated through.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
A rookie mini camp.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And so at the rookie mini camp, you know, everyone
is an NFL caliber player. That's why they're there at
the rookie Mini camp. They have a shot of being
a part of it, or they are going to be
a part of it, So you adapt to kind of
what that speed looks like as opposed to playing in college,
where you've got some really good college players, maybe some greats,
but they're not going to play at the NFL level.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So there's an adjustment period.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Just then then the veterans show up and things get
a lot faster. Things, you know, it becomes much more
difficult in those competitive periods because you've got veteran guys
who are trying to make the team and try to
keep their jobs, and they let you know about it.
So that's that's a whole different speed to it. And
then you get to the preseason when they're actually being
(09:45):
graded on this stuff. And so to your point, like
with every step of the way, the game gets faster,
as I kind of describe it to people, it gets
more efficient.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like one of the things that.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I've always appreciated about watching older veteran players and even
like studying them on defense is oftentimes the older defensive
players that have played forever, they don't take false steps
a bro and there's a counter or a misdirection play,
They're not They're not falling for it. They're disciplined with
(10:17):
what they're reading, they're disciplined in their keys, and they're
they're not going to be persuaded by something. They're following
the rules and doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I was explaining this very thing at the practice, and
my steps were quicker. Today, my steps were quicker. I'm
standing out. That's and that's the difference. Like, right, I'm
standing people. People don't understand that. Right, I'm sitting there
with with the backers, and I'm like, all right, stand
with me. Watch it. Give me your first steps, right,
give me your first steps. We're watching the run, drow,
(10:47):
give me your first steps. I'm standing in my stands
there and their stands and I'm like, here's what you
got to be keying. And we're going through the key reads,
the progression of the read going from the center, go
from the center to wherever the center go, wherever his
first step is. Now my eyes, my eyes go to
that guard. Right, my eyes go to that guard. Whatever
that guard does is gonna tell me what my steps
(11:10):
are going to be. So we're doing the reads. I'm
telling them to trust the reeds, and I'm taking the
steps with them. And my steps were quicker. And it's
crazy because now now let's not get carried away if
I had to continue to run, That's where it's different, right,
But the first two steps I used to one of
the quickest first step dudes was Mike Barrow his step
(11:34):
and he was one of the smartest football players. Him
and Antonio Peers two of the more smarter dudes I
had ever been around in terms of just diagnosing and
understanding what everybody everything going on out there. But Michael
Barrow's first step was tremendous. It like it was almost
like I was envious of it. But you're one hundred
(11:54):
percent right, man. I always tell people, I say, you
want if I could try to give the best way
of of describing it, a high school a high school
game is the equivalent of a college practice speed wise,
so you got to be at game speed. I tell
my son this, you got to start practicing at game
(12:17):
speed in practice now, because that's that's practice speed in college.
When you get to the pros, game speed of a
of a college game is the practice speed of a
pro practice. So you have to be prepared to move
as quickly and as fast as you're moving with your eyes,
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with your body that you are in a in a
college game, in a practice at the pro level and
not to me, and if you can get your head
wrapped around the fact that it is literally that much faster,
like whoa, Because that's the first thing I recognized when
I was when I was at when I went pro,
(12:58):
even when I went to college. It's like, this is fast.
It's fast. Then it got faster and pros. It's like,
you gotta get your hit wrapped around in fact that
how are you so much faster? How is it so
much faster? And you're right, A lot of it has
to do with the mental aspect of how guys are
reading and what they're looking at what's going on at
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the pro level. So yeah, they're more efficient and there's
no false steps. And the last thing is the way
you kind of pointed on is they're more decisive in
what they're doing, you know, And I think you can
see that in every walk of life. When someone is
efficient or able to get a lot done, whether it's
in work or their personal life, what have you, usually
(13:42):
they know exactly what they're looking for, they know exactly
what they're doing, how to do it. And that's, in
an essence, what becomes pro football, because that's your job.
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
In college there's elements of that too, you see players
who do that. Sometimes it's more related to talent, but
when you get to the NFL, talent's equated, and so
it's it's all guys who they know what they're supposed
to do, they know how to do it, and they're
gonna do it in a very efficient manner in fashion.
So that's typically how it works. But not to get
off on a huge tangent, I don't think you and
I are surprised by Jade Daniel starting, nor the fact
(14:10):
that he probably should be in this case, just to
get him out there just to get him adjusted to
that speed and talking about another quarterback. I don't want
to call it a controversy or even competition, but it
was interesting that Rod mayoed the head coach for the
New England Patriots and Elliot Wolf they're now title general
manager for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Drafted two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think everyone when they saw Drake may get taken
a number three overall, they thought, Okay, this is their
guy for the foreseeable future, to follow in the footsteps
of you know what was a number of quarterbacks after
Tom Brady so far, but in particular Mac Jones.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Who was a first round pick.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That being said Joe Milton, their sixth round pick, the
quarterback who was originally at Michigan transferred to Tennessee where
he finished his career.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He's stolen the show. And look, this was low hanging
fruit for.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Me talking about a lot of the draft prospects, and
I was very high on Joe Milton because the NFL
game is very different from the college game in this
sense where when you have you can be a player
in my opinion, that has one or two things you
do extraordinarily well, like better than any human being. On
(15:23):
the plane or one of the best of any human being.
That talent, that extraordinary skill will get you a shot
at the professional level. Like you and I both know
a lot of players who played, probably at the college level,
who were really good and all around really good, probably
didn't have too many holes in their game. However, when
it came down to it, they probably weren't one of
(15:46):
the fastest guys. They probably weren't the strongest guy. They
had a combination of skills and ability that led them
to succeed at that level, but when they went to
the pro level, no extraordinary talent.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was unable to be stopped.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And Joe Milton has walking into the NFL one of
the strongest arms. I mean, I've said this to people
and even combined with his size, his athleticism, he is
the complete package of tools that you would want a
quarterback to have.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
With the one exception, that's the.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Fact that he was one of those guys who played
a long time in college or was in I should
say a long time in college, but never had that
breakout season where you go, oh, there, it is like
that was what I was hoping for, that thirty plus
touchdown season. You know, throwing for over you know, three
thousand and thirty five, whatever the case is. As far
as yards, it really wasn't until his final year at
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Tennessee and a system that seemed conducive, two quarterbacks putting
up numbers, and obviously he came short of of you know,
what was done previously under Hender Hendon Hooker for example,
and some of the others that we'd seen in that system.
And I think Tennessee fans were somewhat disappointed with with
his level of play just in the final year. But
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he's been the guy turning heads. Like a lot of
people have said that who have attended the New England
Patriots training camp that you would not think that Drake
May was the guy taking number three overall, that it
was Joe Milton at Stead instead, who stands at six
foot five, two hundred and forty five pounds with a
howitzer for an arm.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I mean, do you think there should.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Be an open competition at that point or is this
way too early speculation as to what things are going
to look like.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Well, I mean, he's twenty four and Drake May's twenty one,
so I would assume him having a little bit more
age and time under his belt that coming into it,
he would have a little bit more of an advantage
just from the standpoint of you know he's older, But
(17:52):
but is it too early. I don't think it's ever
too early, because the one thing that we always talk
about is time. You don't have time. You don't get
to come in and get what Jordan Love was able
to get. You don't get that type of time. So
if you are are in Drake May's situation, you gotta
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be stepping up what it is that you're doing because
you are the top pick. You are the one that
they're looking at to be the next guy. And if
you're Milton, you're saying, listen, I'm coming in. I know
I'm behind the top draft pick, so I had better
be making plays and doing things that are phenomenal. With
all those things being said, though, Q, I think you
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and I both know we've seen enough football through the
years to know I've seen dudes in training camps outplay veterans,
hid and shoulders outplayed them in the preseason and in
training camp, and they got cut. They did not just
make the team, they got cut from the team. So
(18:58):
to me, when I hear a story like this, The
first thing I go to is how valued is Drake
made to this organizations. If they're valuing him at the
draft pick that he's at, he's going to get the
benefit of the doubt the entire time until that benefit
of the doubt is probably kind of run its course,
and that's having a losing season and he either can't
(19:21):
get onto the field to play, or or he's on
the field and that isn't doing well. But otherwise he's
going to get the benefit of the doubt right now,
just based upon the position he was drafted in. And
Milton is going to find himself on on that roster,
he'll solidify a roster spot or he'll get his opportunity
(19:42):
to go play somewhere else. Well, he's gonna be a
guy for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
We got to keep an eye on throughout the course
of the preseason because I would assume both we'll get
a lot of reps and I think a lot of
people are gonna be wold by what Joe Milton is
capable of doing given his talents and his rare skill set.
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Speaker 1 (23:34):
We got to pay off a little bit of the
teas here. What's what the time that we do have
left uh an un.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I guess maybe more surprising is the way to describe it.
Uh former head coach in the NFL is on the
Kansasity chief sideline helping out during training camp, and that
is one John Gruden, who most recently was a head
coach for the Las Vegas Raiders before being dismissed. So
a bit surprising, but not so much when you actually
(24:03):
look at the track record in history between Andy Reid,
the head coach for the Chiefs and John Gruden. They
actually coached back together on Mike Holmgren's offensive staff in
Green Bay in the nineteen nineties, So when you take
into account that, it kind of makes some sense. And
this actually isn't John Gruden's first stint helping out an
(24:26):
NFL team. Last season, In fact, John Gruden was a
consultant for the New Orleans Saints, so he was involved
with that team. Then he's been involved, you know, back
as an advisor in the world of football and with
an Italian football team, the Milano Seamen of the European
League Football, which is a new startup league over there. However,
(24:47):
so you know, he's been a part of this getting
back into football. And remember, obviously Gruden, who was you know,
coached the Raiders, coached the Tampa Bay Bucks, most famously
to that Super Bowl back in two thousand and two,
still boasting over you know, five games, over five hundred
career record as a head coach, but as well regarded
around a lot of league circles and coaching staff. So
(25:09):
this isn't a surprise from that standpoint. It's more the
fact that he was kind of dismissed and moved on
and now he's back and there's really no formal announcement
about it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah. I think it was a scapegoat situation with with
John grutin for what was going on in Washington, which
is interesting how everything kind of panned out and played
out and whatever side people fall on on the fallout
of the emails getting released and some of the information
(25:39):
that became you know, public knowledge about John Gruden. There
are a lot of people and and noted, both black
and white and and you know other that have spoke
very very glowingly of John Gruton and who he is
(26:00):
and disputing the fact that he should be judged and
measured and weighed by being you know what, people considered
him to be a racist. As far as professionally speaking,
I think his resume speaks for itself obviously, and and
to have his his his wisdom and his knowledge connected
(26:26):
to the game and the sport. I mean he he
kind of revolutionized how television analysts went about their work
in terms of breaking down, you know, what what players
were doing specifically maybe particularly you know what what the
quarterbacks were doing. So within you know, within the football world,
(26:48):
Q it's no surprise that he continues to be utilized
and used because, just like most other things, when it's internal,
it's it hits different. When it's external, it definitely is
perceived and seen differently. So people who know, they know,
people who don't know, they will assume and they'll think
(27:10):
whatever it is that they're going to think. But but
from all things that that you know, from the inside
and the internal aspects of it, there are a lot
of people that that bang with John Gruden, and and
so for him having that opportunity and working with the Chiefs,
obviously those guys go back to the home Gren I
(27:30):
do believe, if my my memory serves me correctly, both
Andy and and John were with home Grin. Yeah, I
just mentioned that. Yeah, okay, good, okay, thank you, I'm
I mean I remember serve you correct? Yeah, Okay, thank you,
Thank you. Sometimes I don't know, yeah, yeah, okay, there
you go. I mean sometimes I don't listen to what
(27:51):
you'll be saying, though, but anyway, I listen to most
of it. But sometimes I just kind of start thinking about, Okay,
I heard what he said, let me let me try
to figure out what I'm say and I might have
missed that part. But but yeah, so so thank you.
Thank you for that confirmation of four minutes ago, my
memory serving me correctly. But yeah, I mean, those guys,
(28:12):
those guys have an affinity for one another, and as
if they couldn't get any more active and making you know,
Patrick Mahomes better, making their offense better, the offensive schemes,
you know, ways of approaching it. Uh, they've built a juggernaut.
They've they've developed a machine there and in Kansas City.
(28:37):
And good for them for giving, you know, giving a
guy like John Gruden an opportunity. So many times we
talk about other things and other people and we say
they there should be some some grace and there should
be the opportunity of redemption or whatever it may be.
It should be no different in this situation, you know,
(28:57):
And so him having that opportunity to cantinue to work
and make things better where he's at. I think that's
a that's who that's that's something serious right there, to
have Homegren and I mean not Homegren, but have have
Andy Reid and John Gruden together working together that way.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, Now do you think it was a rapid decision
that Andy Reid made when wanting to bring in John Gruden.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
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(29:44):
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A really fun time celebrating entering into fatherhood. She was
my first, so it's always nice, always always cool to
(30:48):
see that. Speaking about fatherhood, which has nothing to do
with this next topic I want to touch on.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Did you give my my link that I sent you?
I did, thank I got the link? Yep, got the link. Okay,
tell us about this fatherhood. Okay, let me hear what
you got.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Devanta Adams he's been weighing heavily on the QB battle
there in Las Vegas, and I wanted to bring this
up specifically to you because I'd be curious to gets
your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know, I'm that QB battle.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I mean, obviously, Devanta Adams is the number one receiver,
one of the best in the NFL. He's gonna have
a pretty good idea as to what's happening. Who's you know,
maybe in the best pole position, as I think you
would say.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But I'm just I'm just saying you.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Might have some inside information as to who would be
in the best pole position there in Las Vegas for
the quarterback competition.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I don't, I do not. This is all I know
just from what I can gather. All I know is
is that O'Connell is the guy that was doing what
he was doing, and seemingly because he finished the season
(32:00):
now with them and they did not bring in even
though they paid you know, Minshew more money, it seems
as though there's maybe the idea that he's going to
be the guy and that Minshe is going to back
him up. I mean, but see, I don't I don't
(32:23):
want to speak like in say, in terms because I
don't want it to come back on him. I don't
want to come back on me that I said it.
All I know is this, and I think this is
common knowledge. They did not get a quarterback this offseason
that they feel like they're gonna win with, like this
is their quarterback of the future. So whoever it is, Q,
(32:43):
it's kind of like pick your poison on which one
is going to buy us time until we get to
a quarterback. And to me, that's my interpretation of it.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
So they're in a bridge situation basically till it's a
twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Which I think, so which I mean, is there a
guy in the draft? It might be free agency. Yeah,
maybe that's true. I mean it would be free agency.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Dak Prescott that situation in Dallas. But the hard part
is is it would almost have to be free agency
and you'd have to pulling up the funds to you
want to pay a guy in the free agency because
if Ap and the rest of the Raiders want to
have a successful season, you're not going to be in
a position to really go up and get a guy,
which they kind of found out this year getting left
(33:28):
out empty handed on the rookie quarterback draft sweepstakes.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So that's the unfortunate part is you can't do both.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You can't go out and win and be successful and
be a playoff team then have a chance to get
one of the top quarterbacks and next year's draft that
just doesn't work out that well.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Then that kind of comes to the point of what
do you how do you keep a guy like the
Vonte Adams happy, you know, because he is he still
has that he still has that ability to be a top,
top player in the game. But if you don't have
(34:05):
a guy that can deliver the ball to him. And
then another aspect of it is is he came there
because of his close friend and car and he's not
there anymore. How do you how do you make him
feel confident about wanting to stay? Because if you ask me,
if I'm looking at the way this team is built up,
I'm saying I'm going to play tremendous defense and I'm
(34:29):
going to run the ball. So my past concepts will
be very simple. So if you're not able to get
Davante Adams the ball in very simple pass concepts and
give him the ability to or him have the ability
to turn you know, quick catchable, quick game types of
passing game into yards after the catch, you're probably not
(34:51):
going to see a very very happy Davante Adams because
they're going they're going they're gonna have to run the ball.
They're gonna have to run the ball, play defense, run
the ball, and you're probably going to see even you know,
with the way they're configured in here in LA with
the Chargers, You're probably going to see a run first
team in the Chargers as well, you know. So that
(35:12):
same type of mentality what Harball did at Michigan in
the college level, he's probably going to do the same
exact thing, or at least attempt to do it in
the pros. I think that that's what Antonio Pierce is
going to do with his team as well. Establish a
strong running game where it can make it simpler for
whichever one it is, whether it's O'Connell or whether it's
(35:34):
it's Minshew, make it easier for them in the passing
game by having a strong running game.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
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Speaker 1 (00:40):
Day. He blamed it on the poll vote. Yeah, we
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
There's Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. I'm Britty Quinn,
that's LeVar Arrington. No choice knocks for this week out.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
You know, suspend it on ped vlations, So I don't
know about that, but we do. We do have an update.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
One LaVar Arrington has found the clip of the French
or Italian look looked like he's French, French, French with
an Italian last name, so a little confusing there, but yeah,
you did.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Find the video clip. Now.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I tried to point out to Lee he wasn't getting
over regardless, because he clipped the bar with his calf
or knee whatever, and then as subsequently was insults and
injury with hitting his junk.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
It's not fair to say he did hit it with
his first right, like there was no chance I was
going to stay on it might have. It might have
stayed on like sometimes you can touch it. You can
touch it and it will it probably you're probably right.
It probably would have bounced off it like compressed it.
(01:53):
It probably would have bounced off. But I mean, but
his his what we're saying, remember his friend, I say, junk. Yeah,
the best if I was in that, if I was
in that.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Position, by the way, and if you want, I mean
I can, I can go ahead and go through a
little play by play if you will.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, let's do.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
What was the guy's name again, A'maradi was his last name,
Anthony Anthony Amuradi. There you go, as I say, if
it's an Italian last name, you throw Anthony in the front,
nine times out of ten, you're gonna probably hit right.
So So and here we are at the twenty twenty
four Paris Olympic Games as Anthony Almaradi is preparing for.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
His pole vault.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
This is his last and final attempt to try to
advance into the next round.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
And here goes Anthony. He's got the height, he gets oh,
and he comes to oh, oh, my.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Goodness, the crowd, ladies and gentlemen. His legs, his legs
got in the way of that one. He will not
qualify to be able to place. However, the entire world
has now been put on notice as far as what
Anthony is carrying at his pants.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So Anthony is probably overnight sex symbol in his country.
That's all I'm gonna say. Good for you, Anthony. You
might not have won the gold medal in the Olympics,
but you are now a celebrity in the real world.
(03:21):
Does this do more for the French or the Italians,
given he's an Italian guy living in France. That's a
great question. Q, It's a great question. I think they
both will get credit. I think they certainly will both
get credit. But but Anthony himself has boosted himself, has
(03:44):
grown in popularity. I'm sure has exploded in popularity after
this viral video of him failing. I mean, who becomes
famous off of failing? Yeah, that's that's that's a great,
great question. Good point.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I will also point out that the Olympics. Okay, I'm
glad someone's proud of them. The Olympics are actually started
back up. A lot of live events going on right now.
The women's gymnastics beam competition is going on. Simone Biles
is about ready to go. She will be lasting that event.
She actually got a bronze. The past couple Olympics, she's
(04:25):
never gotten a gold. This is setting up really well
for her to win her first gold on the beam
at the Olympics. But I didn't want to. I didn't
want to point out one. Speaking of their growing popularity,
one of the girls I believe she was competing for
Brazil as a women's gymnastics or gymnasts. She had started
off They were sending her Instagram account. It started off
(04:46):
with like maybe twenty thirty some thousand followers. She has
over two million, over two million, just from the exposure
in the Olympic Games.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Think about that. How crazy that would be. But seriously, time,
I mean, if you figure if those are real followers,
she's now monetizable, and that's you know, that's an interesting topic.
Q coming out of all of this is that guy
Anthony probably if he has social media, he's probably probably
(05:16):
in the millions now too, but he might be also
part of some of those spam you know, things that
go out there. But you got a blue cheer read
coming up. So yeah, I do, I do, I definitely do.
But you know, it's it's interesting that in in the
past you're you're probably monetizing as as a successful olympian
(05:39):
through you know, appearances, you know, speaking engagements and stuff
like that. But now you're talking about if you get
that followership across your your platforms of social media, you know,
the advertisers are going to monetize you and it's much more.
You have to assume there's much more opportunity to be
(06:02):
lucrative in post Olympic success than what it ever has period,
you know. So that's interesting thought. It is interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
You've always been a big, one, big advocate for social media. I,
on the other hand, not so much. And I do
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The way tire buying should be let's get some training
camp updates. We talked in the first hour about whether
or not the brown should play to Shaun Watson. A
little different conversation when it's a veteran who you've seen
produce on the field. Maybe not in Cleveland so much,
but in Houston you have in comparison to a rookie,
and in this case, Jade and Daniels the presumed to
(06:53):
be starting quarterback for the Washington Commandos. He will be
getting the start in the preseason versus the Jets. This
there's really no surprise for those that I think, No
dan Quinn, they're a new head coach and how he operates. However,
it is in contrast to what we saw from the Bears, which,
granted Hall of Fame game, did not start the number
one overall pick Caleb Williams. Is this how you would
(07:16):
you think things should be done? Like, if this is
going to be your guy, even though he's a rookie,
he still needs to get out there and get some
live reps in to adjust to the speed of the game.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Is that fair in your mind? LeVar? Yes, yes, why
not get the man some reps? I'm still I am
still trying to figure out and understand. Why do you
not get him a few game reps. I mean, this
is a rookie, so he's never played in a National
Football League game before ever in his life. He doesn't
(07:46):
know what that feels like, he doesn't know what that
looks like. His body doesn't know, his mental doesn't know.
And whether or not you're playing against starters or not,
don't you want to give this guy an opportunity immediately
to say, you know what, I got it out of
my system. I got onto the field, I played a
couple of downs, it felt good. I got out of
(08:07):
there like like building from it moving on. I just
think that's it's overstated. The whole like, and I know
you're on the offense side of the ball and you
are quarterback, so you could tell me I'm wrong, But
the whole idea of you're like, I'm holding you out
because you're going to get injured. I think it's an
(08:28):
overstated conversation. I do.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think for veterans it's different. When you've got a
guy who's solidified, there's really no need I think, in
my mind nowadays to put him in in harm's way
a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
I agree, I'm okay, with that.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
I'm okay with that in this case to your point
that at every step, every step of the way for rookies,
there is a transition to the speed of the game.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
We always talk about that topic of speed of the game.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
When you first get to practice, there's an adjustment period,
usually indoctrinated through.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
A rookie mini camp.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And so at the rookie mini camp, you know, everyone
is an NFL caliber player. That's why they're there at
the rookie Mini camp. They have a shot of being
a part of it, or they are going to be
a part of it, So you adapt to kind of
what that speed looks like as opposed to playing in college,
where you've got some really good college players, maybe some greats,
but they're not going to play at the NFL level.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
So there's an adjustment period.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Just then then the veterans show up and things get
a lot faster. Things, you know, it becomes much more
difficult in those competitive periods because you've got veteran guys
who are trying to make the team and try to
keep their jobs, and they let you know about it.
So that's that's a whole different speed to it. And
then you get to the preseason when they're actually being
(09:45):
graded on this stuff. And so to your point, like
with every step of the way, the game gets faster,
as I kind of describe it to people, it gets
more efficient.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Like one of the things that.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
I've always appreciated about watching older veteran players and even
like studying them on defense is oftentimes the older defensive
players that have played forever, they don't take false steps
a bro and there's a counter or a misdirection play,
They're not They're not falling for it. They're disciplined with
(10:17):
what they're reading, they're disciplined in their keys, and they're
they're not going to be persuaded by something. They're following
the rules and doing what they're supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I was explaining this very thing at the practice, and
my steps were quicker. Today, my steps were quicker. I'm
standing out. That's and that's the difference. Like, right, I'm
standing people. People don't understand that. Right, I'm sitting there
with with the backers, and I'm like, all right, stand
with me. Watch it. Give me your first steps, right,
give me your first steps. We're watching the run, drow,
(10:47):
give me your first steps. I'm standing in my stands
there and their stands and I'm like, here's what you
got to be keying. And we're going through the key reads,
the progression of the read going from the center, go
from the center to wherever the center go, wherever his
first step is. Now my eyes, my eyes go to
that guard. Right, my eyes go to that guard. Whatever
that guard does is gonna tell me what my steps
(11:10):
are going to be. So we're doing the reads. I'm
telling them to trust the reeds, and I'm taking the
steps with them. And my steps were quicker. And it's
crazy because now now let's not get carried away if
I had to continue to run, That's where it's different, right,
But the first two steps I used to one of
the quickest first step dudes was Mike Barrow his step
(11:34):
and he was one of the smartest football players. Him
and Antonio Peers two of the more smarter dudes I
had ever been around in terms of just diagnosing and
understanding what everybody everything going on out there. But Michael
Barrow's first step was tremendous. It like it was almost
like I was envious of it. But you're one hundred
(11:54):
percent right, man. I always tell people, I say, you
want if I could try to give the best way
of of describing it, a high school a high school
game is the equivalent of a college practice speed wise,
so you got to be at game speed. I tell
my son this, you got to start practicing at game
(12:17):
speed in practice now, because that's that's practice speed in college.
When you get to the pros, game speed of a
of a college game is the practice speed of a
pro practice. So you have to be prepared to move
as quickly and as fast as you're moving with your eyes,
(12:38):
with your body that you are in a in a
college game, in a practice at the pro level and
not to me, and if you can get your head
wrapped around the fact that it is literally that much faster,
like whoa, Because that's the first thing I recognized when
I was when I was at when I went pro,
(12:58):
even when I went to college. It's like, this is fast.
It's fast. Then it got faster and pros. It's like,
you gotta get your hit wrapped around in fact that
how are you so much faster? How is it so
much faster? And you're right, A lot of it has
to do with the mental aspect of how guys are
reading and what they're looking at what's going on at
(13:20):
the pro level. So yeah, they're more efficient and there's
no false steps. And the last thing is the way
you kind of pointed on is they're more decisive in
what they're doing, you know, And I think you can
see that in every walk of life. When someone is
efficient or able to get a lot done, whether it's
in work or their personal life, what have you, usually
(13:42):
they know exactly what they're looking for, they know exactly
what they're doing, how to do it. And that's, in
an essence, what becomes pro football, because that's your job.
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
In college there's elements of that too, you see players
who do that. Sometimes it's more related to talent, but
when you get to the NFL, talent's equated, and so
it's it's all guys who they know what they're supposed
to do, they know how to do it, and they're
gonna do it in a very efficient manner in fashion.
So that's typically how it works. But not to get
off on a huge tangent, I don't think you and
I are surprised by Jade Daniel starting, nor the fact
(14:10):
that he probably should be in this case, just to
get him out there just to get him adjusted to
that speed and talking about another quarterback. I don't want
to call it a controversy or even competition, but it
was interesting that Rod mayoed the head coach for the
New England Patriots and Elliot Wolf they're now title general
manager for the New England Patriots.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Drafted two quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
I think everyone when they saw Drake may get taken
a number three overall, they thought, Okay, this is their
guy for the foreseeable future, to follow in the footsteps
of you know what was a number of quarterbacks after
Tom Brady so far, but in particular Mac Jones.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Who was a first round pick.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
That being said Joe Milton, their sixth round pick, the
quarterback who was originally at Michigan transferred to Tennessee where
he finished his career.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
He's stolen the show. And look, this was low hanging
fruit for.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Me talking about a lot of the draft prospects, and
I was very high on Joe Milton because the NFL
game is very different from the college game in this
sense where when you have you can be a player
in my opinion, that has one or two things you
do extraordinarily well, like better than any human being. On
(15:23):
the plane or one of the best of any human being.
That talent, that extraordinary skill will get you a shot
at the professional level. Like you and I both know
a lot of players who played, probably at the college level,
who were really good and all around really good, probably
didn't have too many holes in their game. However, when
it came down to it, they probably weren't one of
(15:46):
the fastest guys. They probably weren't the strongest guy. They
had a combination of skills and ability that led them
to succeed at that level, but when they went to
the pro level, no extraordinary talent.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was unable to be stopped.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And Joe Milton has walking into the NFL one of
the strongest arms. I mean, I've said this to people
and even combined with his size, his athleticism, he is
the complete package of tools that you would want a
quarterback to have.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
With the one exception, that's the.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Fact that he was one of those guys who played
a long time in college or was in I should
say a long time in college, but never had that
breakout season where you go, oh, there, it is like
that was what I was hoping for, that thirty plus
touchdown season. You know, throwing for over you know, three
thousand and thirty five, whatever the case is. As far
as yards, it really wasn't until his final year at
(16:41):
Tennessee and a system that seemed conducive, two quarterbacks putting
up numbers, and obviously he came short of of you know,
what was done previously under Hender Hendon Hooker for example,
and some of the others that we'd seen in that system.
And I think Tennessee fans were somewhat disappointed with with
his level of play just in the final year. But
(17:02):
he's been the guy turning heads. Like a lot of
people have said that who have attended the New England
Patriots training camp that you would not think that Drake
May was the guy taking number three overall, that it
was Joe Milton at Stead instead, who stands at six
foot five, two hundred and forty five pounds with a
howitzer for an arm.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
I mean, do you think there should.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
Be an open competition at that point or is this
way too early speculation as to what things are going
to look like.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Well, I mean, he's twenty four and Drake May's twenty one,
so I would assume him having a little bit more
age and time under his belt that coming into it,
he would have a little bit more of an advantage
just from the standpoint of you know he's older, But
(17:52):
but is it too early. I don't think it's ever
too early, because the one thing that we always talk
about is time. You don't have time. You don't get
to come in and get what Jordan Love was able
to get. You don't get that type of time. So
if you are are in Drake May's situation, you gotta
(18:13):
be stepping up what it is that you're doing because
you are the top pick. You are the one that
they're looking at to be the next guy. And if
you're Milton, you're saying, listen, I'm coming in. I know
I'm behind the top draft pick, so I had better
be making plays and doing things that are phenomenal. With
all those things being said, though, Q, I think you
(18:36):
and I both know we've seen enough football through the
years to know I've seen dudes in training camps outplay veterans,
hid and shoulders outplayed them in the preseason and in
training camp, and they got cut. They did not just
make the team, they got cut from the team. So
(18:58):
to me, when I hear a story like this, The
first thing I go to is how valued is Drake
made to this organizations. If they're valuing him at the
draft pick that he's at, he's going to get the
benefit of the doubt the entire time until that benefit
of the doubt is probably kind of run its course,
and that's having a losing season and he either can't
(19:21):
get onto the field to play, or or he's on
the field and that isn't doing well. But otherwise he's
going to get the benefit of the doubt right now,
just based upon the position he was drafted in. And
Milton is going to find himself on on that roster,
he'll solidify a roster spot or he'll get his opportunity
(19:42):
to go play somewhere else. Well, he's gonna be a
guy for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
We got to keep an eye on throughout the course
of the preseason because I would assume both we'll get
a lot of reps and I think a lot of
people are gonna be wold by what Joe Milton is
capable of doing given his talents and his rare skill set.
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Speaker 1 (22:11):
I This song makes you so happy. It makes you
just want to slap somebody out, don't it? Uh? What?
I have no uch deal with? That means, you know,
like in Friday, like ribs so good, just make you
want slack your mama? This you know it was just
(22:34):
it was kind of a play on the fact that
I don't remember that line and Friday, Yeah, I don't
remember that. The Friday after next. You all remember the
promo with his brother what's their names? I forget that,
you know, the one that you know Bang Bang Bang
you know him? And then the other one TC I
(22:55):
believe his name is. They was doing the ribs. They
owned the rib Shack. He's like, so good, makes you
want to s Yeah, I do. I don't remember that one,
but it was in the second one with Chris Chris Apps.
Got you, Mike, Mike Apps, Dang, Mike Apps. That's okay.
(23:16):
You almost want Chris Tucker there, didn't you? It was
the Chris it was I did. That's what it was.
It was the Christmas one though. Okay, yeah, you know
it's still not coming back to that. I don't think
it will. But that's okay.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
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Speaker 1 (23:34):
We got to pay off a little bit of the
teas here. What's what the time that we do have
left uh an un.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I guess maybe more surprising is the way to describe it.
Uh former head coach in the NFL is on the
Kansasity chief sideline helping out during training camp, and that
is one John Gruden, who most recently was a head
coach for the Las Vegas Raiders before being dismissed. So
a bit surprising, but not so much when you actually
(24:03):
look at the track record in history between Andy Reid,
the head coach for the Chiefs and John Gruden. They
actually coached back together on Mike Holmgren's offensive staff in
Green Bay in the nineteen nineties, So when you take
into account that, it kind of makes some sense. And
this actually isn't John Gruden's first stint helping out an
(24:26):
NFL team. Last season, In fact, John Gruden was a
consultant for the New Orleans Saints, so he was involved
with that team. Then he's been involved, you know, back
as an advisor in the world of football and with
an Italian football team, the Milano Seamen of the European
League Football, which is a new startup league over there. However,
(24:47):
so you know, he's been a part of this getting
back into football. And remember, obviously Gruden, who was you know,
coached the Raiders, coached the Tampa Bay Bucks, most famously
to that Super Bowl back in two thousand and two,
still boasting over you know, five games, over five hundred
career record as a head coach, but as well regarded
around a lot of league circles and coaching staff. So
(25:09):
this isn't a surprise from that standpoint. It's more the
fact that he was kind of dismissed and moved on
and now he's back and there's really no formal announcement
about it.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah. I think it was a scapegoat situation with with
John grutin for what was going on in Washington, which
is interesting how everything kind of panned out and played
out and whatever side people fall on on the fallout
of the emails getting released and some of the information
(25:39):
that became you know, public knowledge about John Gruden. There
are a lot of people and and noted, both black
and white and and you know other that have spoke
very very glowingly of John Gruton and who he is
(26:00):
and disputing the fact that he should be judged and
measured and weighed by being you know what, people considered
him to be a racist. As far as professionally speaking,
I think his resume speaks for itself obviously, and and
to have his his his wisdom and his knowledge connected
(26:26):
to the game and the sport. I mean he he
kind of revolutionized how television analysts went about their work
in terms of breaking down, you know, what what players
were doing specifically maybe particularly you know what what the
quarterbacks were doing. So within you know, within the football world,
(26:48):
Q it's no surprise that he continues to be utilized
and used because, just like most other things, when it's internal,
it's it hits different. When it's external, it definitely is
perceived and seen differently. So people who know, they know,
people who don't know, they will assume and they'll think
(27:10):
whatever it is that they're going to think. But but
from all things that that you know, from the inside
and the internal aspects of it, there are a lot
of people that that bang with John Gruden, and and
so for him having that opportunity and working with the Chiefs,
obviously those guys go back to the home Gren I
(27:30):
do believe, if my my memory serves me correctly, both
Andy and and John were with home Grin. Yeah, I
just mentioned that. Yeah, okay, good, okay, thank you, I'm
I mean I remember serve you correct? Yeah, Okay, thank you,
Thank you. Sometimes I don't know, yeah, yeah, okay, there
you go. I mean sometimes I don't listen to what
(27:51):
you'll be saying, though, but anyway, I listen to most
of it. But sometimes I just kind of start thinking about, Okay,
I heard what he said, let me let me try
to figure out what I'm say and I might have
missed that part. But but yeah, so so thank you.
Thank you for that confirmation of four minutes ago, my
memory serving me correctly. But yeah, I mean, those guys,
(28:12):
those guys have an affinity for one another, and as
if they couldn't get any more active and making you know,
Patrick Mahomes better, making their offense better, the offensive schemes,
you know, ways of approaching it. Uh, they've built a juggernaut.
They've they've developed a machine there and in Kansas City.
(28:37):
And good for them for giving, you know, giving a
guy like John Gruden an opportunity. So many times we
talk about other things and other people and we say
they there should be some some grace and there should
be the opportunity of redemption or whatever it may be.
It should be no different in this situation, you know,
(28:57):
And so him having that opportunity to cantinue to work
and make things better where he's at. I think that's
a that's who that's that's something serious right there, to
have Homegren and I mean not Homegren, but have have
Andy Reid and John Gruden together working together that way.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, Now do you think it was a rapid decision
that Andy Reid made when wanting to bring in John Gruden.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
It's kind of interesting that you would say that, speaking
of are things too Rapid radios the official communication device
of Fox Sports Radio. But just imagine, you know, Coach
Reid was sitting there, he was looking at the plays,
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a button and instantly was like, hey, John, what do
(29:44):
you think about what's going on here in this play?
And this, that and the other. And he was actually
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by the way, side note, it is my oldest birthday today,
Sloane old today. So excited for her, She's stoked about it.
A really fun time celebrating entering into fatherhood. She was
my first, so it's always nice, always always cool to
(30:48):
see that. Speaking about fatherhood, which has nothing to do
with this next topic I want to touch on.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
Did you give my my link that I sent you?
I did, thank I got the link? Yep, got the link. Okay,
tell us about this fatherhood. Okay, let me hear what
you got.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Devanta Adams he's been weighing heavily on the QB battle
there in Las Vegas, and I wanted to bring this
up specifically to you because I'd be curious to gets
your thoughts.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You know, I'm that QB battle.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
I mean, obviously, Devanta Adams is the number one receiver,
one of the best in the NFL. He's gonna have
a pretty good idea as to what's happening. Who's you know,
maybe in the best pole position, as I think you
would say.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
But I'm just I'm just saying you.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Might have some inside information as to who would be
in the best pole position there in Las Vegas for
the quarterback competition.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
I don't, I do not. This is all I know
just from what I can gather. All I know is
is that O'Connell is the guy that was doing what
he was doing, and seemingly because he finished the season
(32:00):
now with them and they did not bring in even
though they paid you know, Minshew more money, it seems
as though there's maybe the idea that he's going to
be the guy and that Minshe is going to back
him up. I mean, but see, I don't I don't
(32:23):
want to speak like in say, in terms because I
don't want it to come back on him. I don't
want to come back on me that I said it.
All I know is this, and I think this is
common knowledge. They did not get a quarterback this offseason
that they feel like they're gonna win with, like this
is their quarterback of the future. So whoever it is, Q,
(32:43):
it's kind of like pick your poison on which one
is going to buy us time until we get to
a quarterback. And to me, that's my interpretation of it.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
So they're in a bridge situation basically till it's a
twenty twenty five draft.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Which I think, so which I mean, is there a
guy in the draft? It might be free agency. Yeah,
maybe that's true. I mean it would be free agency.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
Dak Prescott that situation in Dallas. But the hard part
is is it would almost have to be free agency
and you'd have to pulling up the funds to you
want to pay a guy in the free agency because
if Ap and the rest of the Raiders want to
have a successful season, you're not going to be in
a position to really go up and get a guy,
which they kind of found out this year getting left
(33:28):
out empty handed on the rookie quarterback draft sweepstakes.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
So that's the unfortunate part is you can't do both.
Speaker 3 (33:35):
You can't go out and win and be successful and
be a playoff team then have a chance to get
one of the top quarterbacks and next year's draft that
just doesn't work out that well.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Then that kind of comes to the point of what
do you how do you keep a guy like the
Vonte Adams happy, you know, because he is he still
has that he still has that ability to be a top,
top player in the game. But if you don't have
(34:05):
a guy that can deliver the ball to him. And
then another aspect of it is is he came there
because of his close friend and car and he's not
there anymore. How do you how do you make him
feel confident about wanting to stay? Because if you ask me,
if I'm looking at the way this team is built up,
I'm saying I'm going to play tremendous defense and I'm
(34:29):
going to run the ball. So my past concepts will
be very simple. So if you're not able to get
Davante Adams the ball in very simple pass concepts and
give him the ability to or him have the ability
to turn you know, quick catchable, quick game types of
passing game into yards after the catch, you're probably not
(34:51):
going to see a very very happy Davante Adams because
they're going they're going they're gonna have to run the ball.
They're gonna have to run the ball, play defense, run
the ball, and you're probably going to see even you know,
with the way they're configured in here in LA with
the Chargers, You're probably going to see a run first
team in the Chargers as well, you know. So that
(35:12):
same type of mentality what Harball did at Michigan in
the college level, he's probably going to do the same
exact thing, or at least attempt to do it in
the pros. I think that that's what Antonio Pierce is
going to do with his team as well. Establish a
strong running game where it can make it simpler for
whichever one it is, whether it's O'Connell or whether it's
(35:34):
it's Minshew, make it easier for them in the passing
game by having a strong running game.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
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