August 5, 2024 • 38 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington recap the biggest storylines from the Olympics in Paris. The guys wonder if Deshaun Watson will make an appearance in the preseason. Plus, facial recognition in the stands and much more!
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update from Eddie Garcia. A lot of things going on
in the Olympics, but what a recap over the course
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of the weekend. Noah Lyles, if anyone watched the one
hundred meter dash, quite possibly the most dramatic event of
the entire Olympics so far, at least for the United States,
edges out the competition by what five thousands of a second?
It was incredible and before were you able to watch
some of the Olympics this weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I did, I did see some of the Olympics. We'll
all good morning there, everybody, Good morning, good morning. You
know what, what kind of really, I guess bothered me
maybe became my my like kind of where are we
at in the world? Hard people that came into the
world as dudes but are competing in the Olympics as women.
(02:03):
I'm not trying hey, listen, I'm not I'm not trying
to be controversial or go down no dark lanes. But
he buddy, well, you know, I'm a I'm a I'm
a daughter, dad and and I have a daughter that
one of our goals in life, Q has been to
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compete for the Olympics, Like, let's try to make it
to the Olympics. I could not imagine, just just as
a parent, and that's how I was watching it when
I when I saw the boxer, you know, lose to
a man that's now a woman.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Uh, I just can't. I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
If you look at how high the nets are for
male volleyball players versus female volleyball players, It's it's very different.
It's not as high, you know why, because women don't
jump as high as as men. And I just I
don't know, bro that that kind of threw me that
it kind of became a storyline to me that like,
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did I ever think in my my lifetime that my
daughter could actually find herself not winning a match because
she could be going up against an entire group of
or or one one person that is dominant and in
the match that was born a guy but is now
a woman. I just that was weird to me. That
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I'm not gonna lie, that was weird to me. But
I did watch. I watched Lyle's run of course, and
he's he's an impressive dude. I watched watch the gymnastics,
you know, finish out. I saw I saw some boxing.
I saw a little bit of it. I saw, I
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saw uh, I saw the mixed mixed relay, four hundred relay,
I saw a few things. So I mean, all in all,
I enjoyed watching it Q. But that was like kind
of like the storyline that, if I'm being honest, that's
that's the storyline that kind of jumped out and like
kind of grabbed me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And we were all.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Kind of talking about it at at Permantes, you know,
when when it happened, it's like, dang, your your your
Olympic dream was was dashed and taken away. You weren't
able to get to where you were trying to go
to because you're a woman athlete that lost to another
one that came into the world as a man's right.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So so let's give a little more context to what
you're saying here. So there's two Olympic boxers, Iman Khalif
of I believe is Algeria and then a be Lin
uting of Chinese tape. Both we're not able to box
previously as in the women's boxing realm, but however are
able to for the Olympics, and they're both actually gonna
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get medals, which is why there's controversy around this topic.
The testing protocols and standards of the Olympics are different
than what you saw previously for the World Championships and
some of the other boxing confederations.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So that's where this all stems from.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Obviously, this is a huge conversation around sports in general
in regards to, you know, how we go about identifying
how on one identifies himself as a male or female.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm a dad of three daughters.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I share very similar thoughts to you, and that's something
that I think is probably neither here nor you know,
neither there nor here for today's show, but definitely a
topic of conversation in regards to how I think a
lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Feel based on what we've seen.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But back to kind of the initial point of the
success of the US. To me, one of the things
that kind of stood out about Noah Lyles race was,
you know, they kind of went through the different you know,
ten twenty thirty forty meters splits, and he really never
led the race until the very very end, and in fact,
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he was in the last place out of the start.
And you know, when you're sitting there watching a race
like that with your kids, like one of the things
I was like telling him was like, hey, look, this
is the fastest man in the world right now. But
what's the lesson to learn from this is how you start,
It's how you finish. You know, he was dead last,
but he didn't give up. He kept running. It wasn't
as great as start, but he kept running, kept running,
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kept running, kept believing himself and his training, and you know,
there he lies the fastest guy in the world now
and so an incredible accomplishment for him. But even just
the difference in the fact that him leaning as opposed
to Thompson from Jamaica being more upright, and that was
the difference because it's when the torso crossed the line.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
A lot of people didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I was kind of sitting there waiting for an explanation
because I'm like, dude, the other guy's foot was there
before his.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But once they went through it, I was like, that
was incredible.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Katie Ladecki's making a case for being the greatest swimmer
of all time, not.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Just women's, probably men's as well. You talked about some
home biles and gymnastics. She was absolutely phenomenal. We talked
about the team championship, but once again won a golden vault.
She's got three medals now since then and this Olympics,
so continuing to solidify her case as one of the
greatest athletes, not just Olympic athletes, but athletes most dominant
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of all time.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So a lot of things to point through.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Even think broke the world record for the fifteen hundred
meter for the men's swimming, So it was a huge
weekend for the United States. Had to highlight that out
the gate only because I love this. I don't know
how you feel about watching all this stuff, man, but
there's something about just all these athletes getting the chance
to represent the United States. It's why like the idea
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of flag football is somewhat appealing that it's going to
be a part of it in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
But at the same time, I'm like, I wish it
was like the real thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I wish you could literally have the real like NFL
the United States players taken on other countries. I know
we'd probably dominate, but the point still exists. It would
be cool to have full ball is actually a part
of that, and it looks like it might be having
some technical difficulties with one LeVar Arrington. But that being said,
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you know, looking at the Olympics and just how it's
kind of worked out so far, it's been a huge
win for the United States, dominating for the most part.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
There has been some different disappointing moments.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The men's four by one hundred medley relay lost the
gold for the first time since nineteen sixty. We haven't
seen something like that and quite some time. Anytime they've
been a part of the med League. They've obviously been
able to take the gold. However, the men's weren't able
to bring that home. The women under their.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Hand set a world record while doing it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So pretty awesome stuff from the Olympics, pretty awesome stuff
from the United States in particular, showing out and standing
out and making it all possible.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We got to take a break and we'll come back though.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We're gonna talk a little bit about a decision, a
big time decision for a team that's you know, maybe
looking for an answer, but will they be able to
find that out about their potentially biggest star, biggest player
on their team.
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I remember the song from when I was little, LeVar,
but then I feel like now it's one of like
the kids.
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Movies that I remember seeing.
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First say, it's from Ah, what is that called from saying?
Speaker 3 (10:06):
They do a rendition of this?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah sing, Yeah, absolutely, it's from saying. It's from saying.
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It's pretty funny.
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Like as the older you get though, and as you
have kids, you start to like remember things differently based
on their experience with it.
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So yeah, exactly, Yeah.
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tire buying should be. You know, LeVar, there's a lot
of decisions being made around the NFL right now in
(11:18):
regards to should the guy player and not play one
player in particular that he's been a topic of conversation
is to Shaun Watson, because since he's gotten to that
record setting contract in Cleveland, he probably hasn't been able
to live up to it. And really it's not even
so much maybe that's been on the field, it's the
fact that he's missed a ton of time off the
field because of the suspense suspension year one, injury.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
To his shoulder in year two.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Now we enter into year three, which a lot of
people feel like is critical in regards to evaluating him
as the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
However, he's got a contract that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Really keeps him there for the most part unless they
really want to push him out. So the question comes
down to give it his injury history, the time he's missed.
Does that make you more apt to say he should play,
they should help him get into a rhythm within this team,
or are you saying, ah, you guys have already made
the financial commitment. You got to wrap this dude and
bubble wrap until the regular season comes.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I feel as though with Deshaun Watson it's kind of complex,
a little bit more complex than I would assume, just
because he did get shoulder surgery, like he did get
a procedure done, so it's not like it's not a
real injury that he sustained or needed to get fixed.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
He is coming back from that.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So it's the question becomes, is he so far along
with his rehab and his recovery of the procedure that
was done that you want to see him play or
are you going to be cautious and not take any chance.
Is because he is such a high investment athlete, you know,
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on your team again, you know, if it's me speaking personally,
I want to see if he can play, and he
doesn't have to play a lot, but I just want
I want to see him play. And so if I'm
making the decision, while I won't play my starters a
whole lot, I would probably tend to take the more
(13:27):
old school approach. Give them one or two series in
the first game, give them, give them a couple series,
a couple more in the second game. Approach the third
preseason game as if it is a walkthrough or a
scripted approach to what a real game would look like.
So my starters would play all the way into the
third quarter. Give them a series in the third quarter
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so they know what it feels like to come out
of halftime and play and then pull them out and
then fourth preseason game, don't play them at all. That's
how I would have approach it. But you know, you know,
I don't know what the right answer is for for
Deshaun Watson's health prognosis.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
What that situation looks like.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, and just to point out, no one will be
playing the fourth preseason game because we only have three now, so.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Well, there you go, they've changed that.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Here you go. So so I don't even know that
would look.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And so just to point out kind of how things
have gone over the past couple of years. He started
six games each of the last two seasons. You know,
obviously the first season he was there that was due
to suspension. You kind of figure that was part of it.
And you know, I think there's a lot more questions
about him that year than even last year. Even though
it wasn't great last year, there's still flashes of what
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he could be within this offense.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And they had a great record why he was the
starting quarterback for those six games.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But as I've alluded to before, there's just too much
money wrapped up into Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Given the fully geararanteed two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Thirty million dollar deal that even if things don't work
out this year, a team could move on, be able
to get any sort of trade value that would be
worthwhile for the contract and would want to take on
that contract or the Browns cutting him. So that's why
you know, when I hear a lot of people talk
about what this season is as an evaluation of Shaun Watson,
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I always go back to look at the contract. This
isn't a short term thing for them, Like they weren't
looking at him saying let's see what his contract looks
like or let's see where his status is after three years.
That is pretty typical when most quarterback contracts, usually it's
the first three years are guaranteed. That's not the case
with de Shaun Watson. He had a five year fully
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guaranteed deal, which really forces the team to put him
on the books at least for the first four if
not into year five because of how expensive it is
to move on from him. And the amazing thing about
it is the fact that the Browns did it considering
their circumstances. But the better part is for players is
this is what the standard should be and there hasn't
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been a quarterback to follow suit, which is interesting that
no one's tried to go this route. Now, every organization's
different as far as the amount of guaranteed money they
can put out there, because they have to put some
of those moneies into escrow. We've talked about that at
length before, but that's part of one side of the equation.
But it doesn't seem like players are willing to sign
these sorts of contracts, even though it's provided him a
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lot of financial security and a lot of security in
the sense of the team is truly invested in him now.
I mean last year there was obviously times where it
was a little bumpy in regards to the Browns as
well as Watson's camp coming out as to why he
was missing time or why he was injured. And then
once you got the details and once they got on
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the same page, he had a better sense of this
being a more serious injury to his throwing shoulder, which
is significant. So back to the initial comment, when you
look at training camp pre he's in preparing him for
the season, I'm one that's kind of like, look, you
know where he's at from you know from his rehab progress,
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how he's been practicing, how he feels throwing. I'm not
sure it makes any sense to risk putting him out there.
If you want to put him out there, okay, so
be it. But let's say he does take a hit.
Let's say he does have a freak accident and he's
gonna then miss the rest of the season or missed
a portion of it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's just not worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean, if you're Kevin Stefanski and you went through
it last year where you had to come back Player
of the earn Joe Flacco because you had to go
through three other quarterbacks to get the Flaco, You've got
to be scarred by that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Would you not be As a coach?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I would be tremendously nervous and I would be cautious,
But at the same time, I would be cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
It's a new season.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You gotta believe that if you have a guy of
the caliber that Deshaun Watson is is that he's going
to come in and he's going to deliver for you.
I mean, sometimes, you know, good things come to those
who wait. Maybe maybe they weathered the storm.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Maybe this is the.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Year where Deshaun Watson comes out. I mean, listen, he
did show glimpses of impacting the team while.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
He was playing.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
It just wasn't for long, that's all.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And so it'll be interesting to see how that all
plays out.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
If you ask me, Q, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
With you on that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And there's some other teams we should throw into consideration,
you know, when you look at, for example, the La Rams,
I mean, there is I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
As injury ridden right now as some of the other teams.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
They've got three other five offensive linemen who have been
out in miss time. Pooka Nakoul went out yesterday with
an injury during training camp. He was obviously a fenom
last year as a rookie. You start kind of combing
through this. I mean, you can't again wrap all these
guys in bubble wraps.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
And get in the season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You have to, you know, go through some some physicality
to determine who are the guys who are I mean,
I'm not sure if you've seen any of the clips
from the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp in Latrowe, but it's
been fun to watch man Jalen Warren holding it down
on the Pittsburgh Steelers offense absolutely, and then some of
the one on one drolls. They have absolutely butting up
the linebackers for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And so it's been fun to see. Yeah, I figured
you did.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I mean, I know you follow them, but that was
fun to watch for me, just saying, all right, there's
still elements of that old school football on there is
there not.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
No, there definitely is.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They were getting a little chippy little, you know, a
little spicy there. And listen, it's it's training camp. Guys
are fighting to get better. Guys are you know, sore,
They're they're competing, they're tired. There's so many different emotions
and feelings that you feel. Listen, I've been watching Penn
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State practice.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
As an old man. Now.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
It's wild to think that you got to get up
for a practice like that all the time. You know,
you're you You watch the way they walk into the
facility and they're the way they move because they're sore,
you know, and you still got to find a way
to get it done. You got to find a way
when you get there. Out on the field. You got
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to be able to run, You got to be able
to read, you got to be able to remember, you
got to be able to execute and it's hot and
sometimes it's raining, and you have fans around. There's there's
just a lot of elements that go into being able
to do what you need to do Q and just
being able to to see some of the physicality of
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the game still be there, like you was talking about
with that that pass rush drill.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
You know, it's it's nice to see it. It's nice
to see guys.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Mix it up, and it's nice to know that there
still are elements of training camp that are training cant.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
How were the boys looking, by the way in the
Happy Valley.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They they, I mean they they look really good. It's
a good looking group. The I mean just just very impressive.
You know, Sutton looks amazing. Abdul Carter that he looks amazing,
I mean, big Zag they they look good. The linebacking
corps looks good. Kobe Kobe King is my favorite, He's
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my favorite man. But but be aware of a kid
by the name of Tony Rojas that's on the linebacking court.
Linebacker you is alive and it is well at Penn State.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
So offense looked really good. Drew looked really sharp.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Obviously, I feel like we got one of the best
running back tandems in in all of college football. Uh
and and Allen and and and Singleton. So yeah, it
was good man, I was I was excited to be
around the guys. It was great seeing coach and seeing
all the other coaches that were there. It was it
was it feel it made me feel feelings. I've I've
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really never felt feelings being on the practice field, but
it made you feel feelings.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I could imagine that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And you know, again, the offense to me is the
side of the football that needs to hold up their standard.
They bring in a new offensive coordinator, Andy kotal Nikki
from Kansas, did you get at least a sense of
what that's going to look like?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You know, given the talent they have in the backfield everyone.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Else, I just think simplified explanation.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
It looks as though they are are going to his strengths,
and which I never understood why you would not want
to know what the strengths of your quarterback are and
what he's confident in doing. It looks as though he's
very confident. It looks as though he's he's like locked
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into what it is that he's doing, and it's probably
because it's what he knows best, and so the offense
looked really good.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
In fact, they were impressive. What I was saying too much,
they were very impressive.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Well, the one thing I was gonna ask is and
this has kind of been the conversation I think Penn
State fans has had, at least, not just to get
a singular topic.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
However, I'm curious, you know the wide receiver group. Last year,
people would say, well, this group can't create a big plays,
big throws downfield. They don't have any speed on the outside.
Is that still the case? Is that kind of what
you witnessed. As far as you know Drew Allers, you
got this incredibly strong arm. He looks like an NFL prospect. However,
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they can't really do much stretching the ball down the field.
They don't have the speed or they don't have someone
that's got incredible size that can go high point the
football over everyone else. Is that more of the issue.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I like, I like Harrison Wallace the third. We have
some other guys out there as well, Mariy Evans. We
have guys, it's just I haven't we haven't seen them
really get established as much as I would like in
game scenarios and so while I will say it looks
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as though we have some you know, we have guys
that can stretch the field, and to that point, our
tight ends, you know, we have worn our tight ends
are really good, Like we have really really solid tight
ends and they play a major part in our passing
game as well.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
But I think it's more like kind of like a
wait and wait and see.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You know, we got fleming that that transferred in from
from Ohio State. Yeah, I mean we got we have guys.
We have guys. Do we have a did I see
a bona fide number one?
Speaker 7 (24:43):
I don't know yet. I don't know. Yeah, I think
we're going to have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And sometimes that's what training camps for, right to see
who identifies themselves and then gives themselves a shot. But
I always say that the cool thing about college football
is there's no preseason games. We talked about that with
the NFL and should you play players or not. You
don't have that ability with college football. You come right
out the gate playing games that matter that count against
your record, count against your shot. I'm trying to go
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in a national championship, so hopefully they're able to figure
some of that stuff out.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But one of the things I.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Noticed looking at their schedule of our is there's no Iowa,
No Iowa on the schedule. That's always been a fun
matchup that we've gotten to follow over the years, probably
more or.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Less up at Iowa City when you and I were
both up there.
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the program program director Doug Wagner. They say a program
in some places like freend ZHM program. We do want
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We're excited about it and looking forward to it, and
then we're going to have a ton of fun.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Together moving forward in the future.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
But let's get all the way forward, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, welcome on board. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
By the way, this is like the week before the week,
and if you're a parent, you know what that means.
By the way, because everyone's kids are about ready to
start going back to school. Some it's for college, some
it's for up through youngsters, elementary school, junior high, high school,
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
But this is the week before the week.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You got that kind of one last week to get through,
and then you got some of your freedom back, some
of your your normal schedule back, and your kids back
in some sort of sense of structure.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So God speed to all the parents out there with
one week to go getting things ready for them.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I'm not sure you feel about that far, but I
am ready for the summertime to be over and to
get to this upcoming school year.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's my last one with much wins Man before they
go to college, so I'll be down to one that's
in the house going to school, and she's part time,
you know, home school, part time in person, so.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I have mixed emotions because they're leaving me. You know,
I already have one two that have left, so we're
danging there close to empty nesting. So enjoy it why
you can, but enjoyed the process. And part of the
process is wanting to get the hell out of summer
and get your kids back into school and on a routine.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
I'm win with you.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I understand these days I'll miss at some point, and
I've been cherishing these moments but there's also for us
in particular, there's a little anticipation coming up for this upcoming
school year. But yeah, we have no idea where Jonas
is at, and we do know he is off for
the rest this week. And just to let people know,
Petro's Papadaekus will be joining us for the final hour
of today's show for the entirety of the week, So
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Speaker 3 (28:48):
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Speaker 1 (28:51):
We got to pay off the tea's the radio formatics.
It's time for a little something we call this.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Sometimes you can't get to every thing in the world
of sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here
to bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
All right, Lee, what do we got?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Well, guys, in case you missed this.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Of course we all did miss this avar because USA
basketball did not do very well in the three by
three basketball events out.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
There the Olympics.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Yeah, mister Jimmer first was there, but yeah, no, good
for us. A lot of you know, a lot of
people questioning why couldn't we put out a better team.
In fact, you know, I was always wondering why can't
we put people from the Big Three. But of course
you have to be a participant in the Phoeba sanction
three by three events, which Big Three is not, of
course involved with whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That makes that makes more sense now, because I was like,
why can't you just take three NBA guys, put them
out there and let them go get a gold, right,
But now it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
In fact, guys Cup even had something to say about this.
Here's his message to whoever does win gold.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
Okay, gold medal winner, the Chehabway, ice Q, whatever country
wins the gold medal, y'all need to come to Boston.
We're gonna pay for y'all trip to Boston hotels, get
y'all a little cash, and let's see who's the best
in the world. You know what I'm saying. We believe
that are all stars will take you down, and if
(30:14):
you don't believe it, we'll see you in Boston.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
August eighteen. Baby, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think that's a I think it's brilliant what he did.
I think that what he's doing, I mean, that's brilliant.
But let me tell you that brilliant that's like an overstatement.
I mean, it's it's I mean, it's it's it's one
of the contagious.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's well, he could have not done anything.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It's advantageous to tell the gold medalists to come because
his guys aren't in in the in in the Olympics,
so and they would spank them by the way. Our
team also, yeah, our team hasn't even I think it
took them like four games to win a game they
I think I think they finally beat France and that
(30:58):
was like literally a comeback.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Last second victory that they got against them. They stink Cube.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, No, I've watched both men's and women's are not
good and then stay on three.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But there's reasons why.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I guess I feel like this is probably the one
of the only moves you have if if you are
ice Cube and you have to run the Big Three
and you're not having any guys as a part of it,
it's probably something you've got to contemplate too. As far
as part of his business model is how can the Olympic? Yeah,
how can we get sanctioned by fee? But to be
a part of this, orhaps some guys be a part
(31:31):
of it. Maybe he feels like that would be taking
away or stealing from what he's built, and guys would
be kind of a way doing that instead of being
playing the Big Three. Either way, it would be interesting
to see what that would look like. But that being said,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I'm not sure it will actually happen when it's all said,
unless he's got a huge bag of cash.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
He says he's got cash for Oh you got cash?
I mean he was gonna get Caitlin some cash. Give
him some of that Dad, shame playing there you go. Yeah,
building in the marketing budget. So leel good.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
You might get a good sponsor though, maybe want to
pay off the Teas.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
At some point I had to tease off Lee.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I thought, uh, maybe that was not the Teasley maybe
maybe maybe not.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Maybe we'll get there sooner or later.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But uh, dang, I was.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Gonna actually ask if you had seen what happened with
this Belgian triathlete. We've talked a lot about what's going
on with the sen River that you know. Of course
them putting one point five billion dollars worth cleaning it.
I know you were there, Brady. I know you're telling
me there was no way they were going to be
swimming in the seend. But they did it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And then what happened le Well.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Claire Michelle, Belgian triathlete, spent four days in the hospital
with E. Coli infection and her whole team had to.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Pull out I try to tell you guys, like, there's
no way they should have been swimming that thing.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
We watched thing.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I was there and we walked by it literally every
day for the three days I.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Was there, and it was I mean, it did not look.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Like anything you'd want to dip your toe in. I'll
put it that way. So not surprising. I'm sure there's
other Actually, I will say this. I know there's some
other athletes that have actually had had other issues.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
With E coli.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
It wasn't as a result of the Sen River, but
there is some other stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
But I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Is that well, again, it's it's a byproduct. I will
put it this way, you know what I mean. Gotta
be pretty crappy. You know what I mean. It's a situation.
It's just at an agent or someone. Yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Say this like the USOC, I am surprised doesn't do
a better job.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I will leave it at that. That's all I'm going
to say.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But for all of our athletes, I mean, even for example,
what our athletes get for winning a medal in comparison
to other countries, it's ridiculously lower.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I mean a gold medal.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I think it's worth thirty seven thousand and thirty eight
thousand somewhere from somewhere in that ballpark.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Some of these other.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Countries will pay their athletes about one hundred and fifty
hundred thousand for a gold medal. So it's it's a
bit surprising that the United States doesn't kind of put
that up there higher for all the athletes that are
out there competing trying to especially can saying the funding
just behind them anyway.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
So yeah, guys, in case you missed this, all thirty
two NFL teams this year are going to be using
a company called Wicket for facial recognition to verify the
identity of people entering the stadium. They said they're excited
to roll it out. It's going to be a credentialing
initiative to show up vulnerabilities for high security zones including
the playing field, locker rooms, and press boxes. And if
(34:30):
you've seen a demonstration of this thing, it's pretty wild.
You could pretty much zoom anywhere in the stadium and
get a close person.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I looked through this, I did, I sold the demonstration.
It's great technology. How's that going to stop anything?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
In real time? I mean, I understand for repeat offenders.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It'll stop someone who has come into the stadium and
done something bad, but then it's going to take that
before you get their identity by using this software, and
so it's going to stop them a second time around,
not the first time.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's why, like this whole spiel about how this.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Is gonna help them, I don't really understand unless you're
talking about being able to work with other law enforcement
departments to stop criminals for getting insure. But even then,
you know, how fast are they going to be able
to take noticing someone, confirming it's that someone, and then
getting to them before they're able to do something bad.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Yeah, they use this word accountability that they're trying to
keep people accountable, but yet you're right, like, how are
you gonna.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Are they scanning in when they go into the into
the ring?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Everything, man, all the whole systems watched and it's all
a they're all seeing their facial.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
But what I'm saying is like how you go to
the airport, now you have to look into the camera.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Which is actually optional. Do you know that you don't
have to look into it? There's signs posted, they won't
tell you that. But when you go to TSA For
all those folks out there listening. If you have to
travel on an airplane, you do not have to look into it.
It is completely optional. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't know. I don't have anything to hat. I
just smiley. Well it's not that, it's just like why
did they need it? Why they need it? Right? Like
for example, I used clear because you're.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Being hostile there you go, don't use which they already
use your facial recognition, fingerprinting and all that. So why
do I have to give that to the CSA pre
you know? Yeah, but I don't know. You know, I
did not know that. Yeah, you got anything else?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Now, I'm not a big fan of it, but I
would be surprised that they've been using this a lot
longer than we even know about.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, I do have something else, and I'm sure hold.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
On, hold on.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Do you think they've been using it longer they're just
now announcing it publicly?
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I do. Okay, what makes you think that?
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Because they've always had this technology. It's just whether it
just came out on LinkedIn, like it just got leaked.
But I mean this wicked company. Yeah, maybe it's a
new partnership with this company, but they've always had the
ability to zoom in and catch you and do facial recognition.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
My question is, are you gonna ply to other events,
Like if you're hard Rock Stadium for the Miami Dolphins,
could you have prevented that whole melee thing that occurred
at hard Rock Stadium, all the people getting into the stadium,
Like would that?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Would that have stopped that?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
My guess is no, because people just were bombarding that
stadium in security to get in like that wasn't like
a facial recognition problem, but it could You could catch them.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Yeah, you can catch them afterwards. So it's a de
turn that you wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, good luck, good luck catching them. See how that works? Right?
Speaker 8 (37:28):
Uh, guys, I'm sure you did catch this. But if
you didn't, did you see the French pole vaulter who
clipped what happened?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Anthony amer Amy Roddy, a prominent French pole vaulter, was
in his first heat Saturday morning when he was trying
to flip over the bar in the pull pull vault
and his uh well endowed remember kept him from passing
to the next next heat.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yeah as well, and doubt member kept him from passing
through the heat.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Yeah, it hit the hit the pole brought it down.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Man first off, his leg hit it first, all right,
everyone's making a big deal his his his like kneecap
cap hit about his kneecap, and that it did happen
to brush against his French sausage.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
Question is would you have traded a little bit of
what was going on down there for a gold medal?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
The best person to ask Lee.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Eh well, Vart, did you actually see this when it happened?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I did not, But I'm going to look for.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
It easy to catch.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I'm going to look for what's that search history
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update from Eddie Garcia. A lot of things going on
in the Olympics, but what a recap over the course
(01:16):
of the weekend. Noah Lyles, if anyone watched the one
hundred meter dash, quite possibly the most dramatic event of
the entire Olympics so far, at least for the United States,
edges out the competition by what five thousands of a second?
It was incredible and before were you able to watch
some of the Olympics this weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I did, I did see some of the Olympics. We'll
all good morning there, everybody, Good morning, good morning. You
know what, what kind of really, I guess bothered me
maybe became my my like kind of where are we
at in the world? Hard people that came into the
world as dudes but are competing in the Olympics as women.
(02:03):
I'm not trying hey, listen, I'm not I'm not trying
to be controversial or go down no dark lanes. But
he buddy, well, you know, I'm a I'm a I'm
a daughter, dad and and I have a daughter that
one of our goals in life, Q has been to
(02:23):
compete for the Olympics, Like, let's try to make it
to the Olympics. I could not imagine, just just as
a parent, and that's how I was watching it when
I when I saw the boxer, you know, lose to
a man that's now a woman.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Uh, I just can't. I can't imagine.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
If you look at how high the nets are for
male volleyball players versus female volleyball players, It's it's very different.
It's not as high, you know why, because women don't
jump as high as as men. And I just I
don't know, bro that that kind of threw me that
it kind of became a storyline to me that like,
(03:08):
did I ever think in my my lifetime that my
daughter could actually find herself not winning a match because
she could be going up against an entire group of
or or one one person that is dominant and in
the match that was born a guy but is now
a woman. I just that was weird to me. That
(03:31):
I'm not gonna lie, that was weird to me. But
I did watch. I watched Lyle's run of course, and
he's he's an impressive dude. I watched watch the gymnastics,
you know, finish out. I saw I saw some boxing.
I saw a little bit of it. I saw, I
(03:52):
saw uh, I saw the mixed mixed relay, four hundred relay,
I saw a few things. So I mean, all in all,
I enjoyed watching it Q. But that was like kind
of like the storyline that, if I'm being honest, that's
that's the storyline that kind of jumped out and like
kind of grabbed me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
And we were all.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Kind of talking about it at at Permantes, you know,
when when it happened, it's like, dang, your your your
Olympic dream was was dashed and taken away. You weren't
able to get to where you were trying to go
to because you're a woman athlete that lost to another
one that came into the world as a man's right.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
So so let's give a little more context to what
you're saying here. So there's two Olympic boxers, Iman Khalif
of I believe is Algeria and then a be Lin
uting of Chinese tape. Both we're not able to box
previously as in the women's boxing realm, but however are
able to for the Olympics, and they're both actually gonna
(04:56):
get medals, which is why there's controversy around this topic.
The testing protocols and standards of the Olympics are different
than what you saw previously for the World Championships and
some of the other boxing confederations.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So that's where this all stems from.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Obviously, this is a huge conversation around sports in general
in regards to, you know, how we go about identifying
how on one identifies himself as a male or female.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
I'm a dad of three daughters.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I share very similar thoughts to you, and that's something
that I think is probably neither here nor you know,
neither there nor here for today's show, but definitely a
topic of conversation in regards to how I think a
lot of people.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Feel based on what we've seen.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
But back to kind of the initial point of the
success of the US. To me, one of the things
that kind of stood out about Noah Lyles race was,
you know, they kind of went through the different you know,
ten twenty thirty forty meters splits, and he really never
led the race until the very very end, and in fact,
(06:02):
he was in the last place out of the start.
And you know, when you're sitting there watching a race
like that with your kids, like one of the things
I was like telling him was like, hey, look, this
is the fastest man in the world right now. But
what's the lesson to learn from this is how you start,
It's how you finish. You know, he was dead last,
but he didn't give up. He kept running. It wasn't
as great as start, but he kept running, kept running,
(06:22):
kept running, kept believing himself and his training, and you know,
there he lies the fastest guy in the world now
and so an incredible accomplishment for him. But even just
the difference in the fact that him leaning as opposed
to Thompson from Jamaica being more upright, and that was
the difference because it's when the torso crossed the line.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
A lot of people didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I was kind of sitting there waiting for an explanation
because I'm like, dude, the other guy's foot was there
before his.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
But once they went through it, I was like, that
was incredible.
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Katie Ladecki's making a case for being the greatest swimmer
of all time, not.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Just women's, probably men's as well. You talked about some
home biles and gymnastics. She was absolutely phenomenal. We talked
about the team championship, but once again won a golden vault.
She's got three medals now since then and this Olympics,
so continuing to solidify her case as one of the
greatest athletes, not just Olympic athletes, but athletes most dominant
(07:16):
of all time.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So a lot of things to point through.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Even think broke the world record for the fifteen hundred
meter for the men's swimming, So it was a huge
weekend for the United States. Had to highlight that out
the gate only because I love this. I don't know
how you feel about watching all this stuff, man, but
there's something about just all these athletes getting the chance
to represent the United States. It's why like the idea
(07:39):
of flag football is somewhat appealing that it's going to
be a part of it in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
But at the same time, I'm like, I wish it
was like the real thing, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I wish you could literally have the real like NFL
the United States players taken on other countries. I know
we'd probably dominate, but the point still exists. It would
be cool to have full ball is actually a part
of that, and it looks like it might be having
some technical difficulties with one LeVar Arrington. But that being said,
(08:09):
you know, looking at the Olympics and just how it's
kind of worked out so far, it's been a huge
win for the United States, dominating for the most part.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
There has been some different disappointing moments.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The men's four by one hundred medley relay lost the
gold for the first time since nineteen sixty. We haven't
seen something like that and quite some time. Anytime they've
been a part of the med League. They've obviously been
able to take the gold. However, the men's weren't able
to bring that home. The women under their.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Hand set a world record while doing it.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So pretty awesome stuff from the Olympics, pretty awesome stuff
from the United States in particular, showing out and standing
out and making it all possible.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
We got to take a break and we'll come back though.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We're gonna talk a little bit about a decision, a
big time decision for a team that's you know, maybe
looking for an answer, but will they be able to
find that out about their potentially biggest star, biggest player
on their team.
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but then I feel like now it's one of like
the kids.
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First say, it's from Ah, what is that called from saying?
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They do a rendition of this?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah sing, Yeah, absolutely, it's from saying. It's from saying.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
It's pretty funny.
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Like as the older you get though, and as you
have kids, you start to like remember things differently based
on their experience with it.
Speaker 7 (10:18):
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tire buying should be. You know, LeVar, there's a lot
of decisions being made around the NFL right now in
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regards to should the guy player and not play one
player in particular that he's been a topic of conversation
is to Shaun Watson, because since he's gotten to that
record setting contract in Cleveland, he probably hasn't been able
to live up to it. And really it's not even
so much maybe that's been on the field, it's the
fact that he's missed a ton of time off the
field because of the suspense suspension year one, injury.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
To his shoulder in year two.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Now we enter into year three, which a lot of
people feel like is critical in regards to evaluating him
as the quarterback of the future.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
However, he's got a contract that.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Really keeps him there for the most part unless they
really want to push him out. So the question comes
down to give it his injury history, the time he's missed.
Does that make you more apt to say he should play,
they should help him get into a rhythm within this team,
or are you saying, ah, you guys have already made
the financial commitment. You got to wrap this dude and
bubble wrap until the regular season comes.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Man.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I feel as though with Deshaun Watson it's kind of complex,
a little bit more complex than I would assume, just
because he did get shoulder surgery, like he did get
a procedure done, so it's not like it's not a
real injury that he sustained or needed to get fixed.
Speaker 7 (12:38):
He is coming back from that.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
So it's the question becomes, is he so far along
with his rehab and his recovery of the procedure that
was done that you want to see him play or
are you going to be cautious and not take any chance.
Is because he is such a high investment athlete, you know,
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on your team again, you know, if it's me speaking personally,
I want to see if he can play, and he
doesn't have to play a lot, but I just want
I want to see him play. And so if I'm
making the decision, while I won't play my starters a
whole lot, I would probably tend to take the more
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old school approach. Give them one or two series in
the first game, give them, give them a couple series,
a couple more in the second game. Approach the third
preseason game as if it is a walkthrough or a
scripted approach to what a real game would look like.
So my starters would play all the way into the
third quarter. Give them a series in the third quarter
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so they know what it feels like to come out
of halftime and play and then pull them out and
then fourth preseason game, don't play them at all. That's
how I would have approach it. But you know, you know,
I don't know what the right answer is for for
Deshaun Watson's health prognosis.
Speaker 7 (14:10):
What that situation looks like.
Speaker 4 (14:13):
Yeah, and just to point out, no one will be
playing the fourth preseason game because we only have three now, so.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
Well there you go.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Well, there you go, they've changed that.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
Here you go. So so I don't even know that
would look.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
And so just to point out kind of how things
have gone over the past couple of years. He started
six games each of the last two seasons. You know,
obviously the first season he was there that was due
to suspension. You kind of figure that was part of it.
And you know, I think there's a lot more questions
about him that year than even last year. Even though
it wasn't great last year, there's still flashes of what
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he could be within this offense.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And they had a great record why he was the
starting quarterback for those six games.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
But as I've alluded to before, there's just too much
money wrapped up into Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Given the fully geararanteed two hundred and.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Thirty million dollar deal that even if things don't work
out this year, a team could move on, be able
to get any sort of trade value that would be
worthwhile for the contract and would want to take on
that contract or the Browns cutting him. So that's why
you know, when I hear a lot of people talk
about what this season is as an evaluation of Shaun Watson,
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I always go back to look at the contract. This
isn't a short term thing for them, Like they weren't
looking at him saying let's see what his contract looks
like or let's see where his status is after three years.
That is pretty typical when most quarterback contracts, usually it's
the first three years are guaranteed. That's not the case
with de Shaun Watson. He had a five year fully
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guaranteed deal, which really forces the team to put him
on the books at least for the first four if
not into year five because of how expensive it is
to move on from him. And the amazing thing about
it is the fact that the Browns did it considering
their circumstances. But the better part is for players is
this is what the standard should be and there hasn't
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been a quarterback to follow suit, which is interesting that
no one's tried to go this route. Now, every organization's
different as far as the amount of guaranteed money they
can put out there, because they have to put some
of those moneies into escrow. We've talked about that at
length before, but that's part of one side of the equation.
But it doesn't seem like players are willing to sign
these sorts of contracts, even though it's provided him a
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lot of financial security and a lot of security in
the sense of the team is truly invested in him now.
I mean last year there was obviously times where it
was a little bumpy in regards to the Browns as
well as Watson's camp coming out as to why he
was missing time or why he was injured. And then
once you got the details and once they got on
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the same page, he had a better sense of this
being a more serious injury to his throwing shoulder, which
is significant. So back to the initial comment, when you
look at training camp pre he's in preparing him for
the season, I'm one that's kind of like, look, you
know where he's at from you know from his rehab progress,
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how he's been practicing, how he feels throwing. I'm not
sure it makes any sense to risk putting him out there.
If you want to put him out there, okay, so
be it. But let's say he does take a hit.
Let's say he does have a freak accident and he's
gonna then miss the rest of the season or missed
a portion of it.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
It's just not worth it.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
I mean, if you're Kevin Stefanski and you went through
it last year where you had to come back Player
of the earn Joe Flacco because you had to go
through three other quarterbacks to get the Flaco, You've got
to be scarred by that.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Would you not be As a coach?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I would be tremendously nervous and I would be cautious,
But at the same time, I would be cautiously optimistic.
Speaker 7 (17:49):
It's a new season.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
You gotta believe that if you have a guy of
the caliber that Deshaun Watson is is that he's going
to come in and he's going to deliver for you.
I mean, sometimes, you know, good things come to those
who wait. Maybe maybe they weathered the storm.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
Maybe this is the.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
Year where Deshaun Watson comes out. I mean, listen, he
did show glimpses of impacting the team while.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
He was playing.
Speaker 7 (18:19):
It just wasn't for long, that's all.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
And so it'll be interesting to see how that all
plays out.
Speaker 7 (18:25):
If you ask me, Q, I'm.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
With you on that.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
And there's some other teams we should throw into consideration,
you know, when you look at, for example, the La Rams,
I mean, there is I was gonna say.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
As injury ridden right now as some of the other teams.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
They've got three other five offensive linemen who have been
out in miss time. Pooka Nakoul went out yesterday with
an injury during training camp. He was obviously a fenom
last year as a rookie. You start kind of combing
through this. I mean, you can't again wrap all these
guys in bubble wraps.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
And get in the season.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You have to, you know, go through some some physicality
to determine who are the guys who are I mean,
I'm not sure if you've seen any of the clips
from the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp in Latrowe, but it's
been fun to watch man Jalen Warren holding it down
on the Pittsburgh Steelers offense absolutely, and then some of
the one on one drolls. They have absolutely butting up
the linebackers for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
And so it's been fun to see. Yeah, I figured
you did.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
I mean, I know you follow them, but that was
fun to watch for me, just saying, all right, there's
still elements of that old school football on there is
there not.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
No, there definitely is.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
They were getting a little chippy little, you know, a
little spicy there. And listen, it's it's training camp. Guys
are fighting to get better. Guys are you know, sore,
They're they're competing, they're tired. There's so many different emotions
and feelings that you feel. Listen, I've been watching Penn
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State practice.
Speaker 7 (19:55):
As an old man. Now.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
It's wild to think that you got to get up
for a practice like that all the time. You know,
you're you You watch the way they walk into the
facility and they're the way they move because they're sore,
you know, and you still got to find a way
to get it done. You got to find a way
when you get there. Out on the field. You got
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to be able to run, You got to be able
to read, you got to be able to remember, you
got to be able to execute and it's hot and
sometimes it's raining, and you have fans around. There's there's
just a lot of elements that go into being able
to do what you need to do Q and just
being able to to see some of the physicality of
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the game still be there, like you was talking about
with that that pass rush drill.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
You know, it's it's nice to see it. It's nice
to see guys.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
Mix it up, and it's nice to know that there
still are elements of training camp that are training cant.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
How were the boys looking, by the way in the
Happy Valley.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
They they, I mean they they look really good. It's
a good looking group. The I mean just just very impressive.
You know, Sutton looks amazing. Abdul Carter that he looks amazing,
I mean, big Zag they they look good. The linebacking
corps looks good. Kobe Kobe King is my favorite, He's
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my favorite man. But but be aware of a kid
by the name of Tony Rojas that's on the linebacking court.
Linebacker you is alive and it is well at Penn State.
Speaker 7 (21:32):
So offense looked really good. Drew looked really sharp.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Obviously, I feel like we got one of the best
running back tandems in in all of college football. Uh
and and Allen and and and Singleton. So yeah, it
was good man, I was I was excited to be
around the guys. It was great seeing coach and seeing
all the other coaches that were there. It was it
was it feel it made me feel feelings. I've I've
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really never felt feelings being on the practice field, but
it made you feel feelings.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I could imagine that.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
And you know, again, the offense to me is the
side of the football that needs to hold up their standard.
They bring in a new offensive coordinator, Andy kotal Nikki
from Kansas, did you get at least a sense of
what that's going to look like?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You know, given the talent they have in the backfield everyone.
Speaker 7 (22:23):
Else, I just think simplified explanation.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
It looks as though they are are going to his strengths,
and which I never understood why you would not want
to know what the strengths of your quarterback are and
what he's confident in doing. It looks as though he's
very confident. It looks as though he's he's like locked
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into what it is that he's doing, and it's probably
because it's what he knows best, and so the offense
looked really good.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
In fact, they were impressive. What I was saying too much,
they were very impressive.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Well, the one thing I was gonna ask is and
this has kind of been the conversation I think Penn
State fans has had, at least, not just to get
a singular topic.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
However, I'm curious, you know the wide receiver group. Last year,
people would say, well, this group can't create a big plays,
big throws downfield. They don't have any speed on the outside.
Is that still the case? Is that kind of what
you witnessed. As far as you know Drew Allers, you
got this incredibly strong arm. He looks like an NFL prospect. However,
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they can't really do much stretching the ball down the field.
They don't have the speed or they don't have someone
that's got incredible size that can go high point the
football over everyone else. Is that more of the issue.
Speaker 4 (23:45):
I like, I like Harrison Wallace the third. We have
some other guys out there as well, Mariy Evans. We
have guys, it's just I haven't we haven't seen them
really get established as much as I would like in
game scenarios and so while I will say it looks
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as though we have some you know, we have guys
that can stretch the field, and to that point, our
tight ends, you know, we have worn our tight ends
are really good, Like we have really really solid tight
ends and they play a major part in our passing
game as well.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
But I think it's more like kind of like a
wait and wait and see.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
You know, we got fleming that that transferred in from
from Ohio State. Yeah, I mean we got we have guys.
We have guys. Do we have a did I see
a bona fide number one?
Speaker 7 (24:43):
I don't know yet. I don't know. Yeah, I think
we're going to have to wait and see.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
And sometimes that's what training camps for, right to see
who identifies themselves and then gives themselves a shot. But
I always say that the cool thing about college football
is there's no preseason games. We talked about that with
the NFL and should you play players or not. You
don't have that ability with college football. You come right
out the gate playing games that matter that count against
your record, count against your shot. I'm trying to go
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in a national championship, so hopefully they're able to figure
some of that stuff out.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But one of the things I.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Noticed looking at their schedule of our is there's no Iowa,
No Iowa on the schedule. That's always been a fun
matchup that we've gotten to follow over the years, probably
more or.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Less up at Iowa City when you and I were
both up there.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
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Speaker 3 (25:54):
Together moving forward in the future.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
But let's get all the way forward, guys.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, welcome on board. We really appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
By the way, this is like the week before the week,
and if you're a parent, you know what that means.
By the way, because everyone's kids are about ready to
start going back to school. Some it's for college, some
it's for up through youngsters, elementary school, junior high, high school,
all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
But this is the week before the week.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
You got that kind of one last week to get through,
and then you got some of your freedom back, some
of your your normal schedule back, and your kids back
in some sort of sense of structure.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
So God speed to all the parents out there with
one week to go getting things ready for them.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I'm not sure you feel about that far, but I
am ready for the summertime to be over and to
get to this upcoming school year.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
It's my last one with much wins Man before they
go to college, so I'll be down to one that's
in the house going to school, and she's part time,
you know, home school, part time in person, so.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
I have mixed emotions because they're leaving me. You know,
I already have one two that have left, so we're
danging there close to empty nesting. So enjoy it why
you can, but enjoyed the process. And part of the
process is wanting to get the hell out of summer
and get your kids back into school and on a routine.
Speaker 7 (27:22):
I'm win with you.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I understand these days I'll miss at some point, and
I've been cherishing these moments but there's also for us
in particular, there's a little anticipation coming up for this upcoming
school year. But yeah, we have no idea where Jonas
is at, and we do know he is off for
the rest this week. And just to let people know,
Petro's Papadaekus will be joining us for the final hour
of today's show for the entirety of the week, So
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Speaker 1 (28:51):
We got to pay off the tea's the radio formatics.
It's time for a little something we call this.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Sometimes you can't get to every thing in the world
of sports or entertainment. Good thing the guys are here
to bring you in case you missed it.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
All right, Lee, what do we got?
Speaker 5 (29:09):
Well, guys, in case you missed this.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Of course we all did miss this avar because USA
basketball did not do very well in the three by
three basketball events out.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
There the Olympics.
Speaker 8 (29:20):
Yeah, mister Jimmer first was there, but yeah, no, good
for us. A lot of you know, a lot of
people questioning why couldn't we put out a better team.
In fact, you know, I was always wondering why can't
we put people from the Big Three. But of course
you have to be a participant in the Phoeba sanction
three by three events, which Big Three is not, of
course involved with whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (29:40):
That makes that makes more sense now, because I was like,
why can't you just take three NBA guys, put them
out there and let them go get a gold, right,
But now it makes sense.
Speaker 3 (29:49):
Okay.
Speaker 8 (29:49):
In fact, guys Cup even had something to say about this.
Here's his message to whoever does win gold.
Speaker 9 (29:54):
Okay, gold medal winner, the Chehabway, ice Q, whatever country
wins the gold medal, y'all need to come to Boston.
We're gonna pay for y'all trip to Boston hotels, get
y'all a little cash, and let's see who's the best
in the world. You know what I'm saying. We believe
that are all stars will take you down, and if
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you don't believe it, we'll see you in Boston.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
August eighteen. Baby, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I think that's a I think it's brilliant what he did.
I think that what he's doing, I mean, that's brilliant.
But let me tell you that brilliant that's like an overstatement.
I mean, it's it's I mean, it's it's it's one
of the contagious.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It's well, he could have not done anything.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
It's advantageous to tell the gold medalists to come because
his guys aren't in in the in in the Olympics,
so and they would spank them by the way. Our
team also, yeah, our team hasn't even I think it
took them like four games to win a game they
I think I think they finally beat France and that
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was like literally a comeback.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Last second victory that they got against them. They stink Cube.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
No, No, I've watched both men's and women's are not
good and then stay on three.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
But there's reasons why.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
I guess I feel like this is probably the one
of the only moves you have if if you are
ice Cube and you have to run the Big Three
and you're not having any guys as a part of it,
it's probably something you've got to contemplate too. As far
as part of his business model is how can the Olympic? Yeah,
how can we get sanctioned by fee? But to be
a part of this, orhaps some guys be a part
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of it. Maybe he feels like that would be taking
away or stealing from what he's built, and guys would
be kind of a way doing that instead of being
playing the Big Three. Either way, it would be interesting
to see what that would look like. But that being said,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
I'm not sure it will actually happen when it's all said,
unless he's got a huge bag of cash.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
He says he's got cash for Oh you got cash?
I mean he was gonna get Caitlin some cash. Give
him some of that Dad, shame playing there you go. Yeah,
building in the marketing budget. So leel good.
Speaker 4 (32:03):
You might get a good sponsor though, maybe want to
pay off the Teas.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
At some point I had to tease off Lee.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I thought, uh, maybe that was not the Teasley maybe
maybe maybe not.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Maybe we'll get there sooner or later.
Speaker 3 (32:15):
But uh, dang, I was.
Speaker 8 (32:16):
Gonna actually ask if you had seen what happened with
this Belgian triathlete. We've talked a lot about what's going
on with the sen River that you know. Of course
them putting one point five billion dollars worth cleaning it.
I know you were there, Brady. I know you're telling
me there was no way they were going to be
swimming in the seend. But they did it.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
And then what happened le Well.
Speaker 8 (32:31):
Claire Michelle, Belgian triathlete, spent four days in the hospital
with E. Coli infection and her whole team had to.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Pull out I try to tell you guys, like, there's
no way they should have been swimming that thing.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
We watched thing.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
I was there and we walked by it literally every
day for the three days I.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Was there, and it was I mean, it did not look.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Like anything you'd want to dip your toe in. I'll
put it that way. So not surprising. I'm sure there's
other Actually, I will say this. I know there's some
other athletes that have actually had had other issues.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
With E coli.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
It wasn't as a result of the Sen River, but
there is some other stuff going on.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
But I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Is that well, again, it's it's a byproduct. I will
put it this way, you know what I mean. Gotta
be pretty crappy. You know what I mean. It's a situation.
It's just at an agent or someone. Yeah, I will.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Say this like the USOC, I am surprised doesn't do
a better job.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
I will leave it at that. That's all I'm going
to say.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
But for all of our athletes, I mean, even for example,
what our athletes get for winning a medal in comparison
to other countries, it's ridiculously lower.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
I mean a gold medal.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
I think it's worth thirty seven thousand and thirty eight
thousand somewhere from somewhere in that ballpark.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Some of these other.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Countries will pay their athletes about one hundred and fifty
hundred thousand for a gold medal. So it's it's a
bit surprising that the United States doesn't kind of put
that up there higher for all the athletes that are
out there competing trying to especially can saying the funding
just behind them anyway.
Speaker 8 (34:09):
So yeah, guys, in case you missed this, all thirty
two NFL teams this year are going to be using
a company called Wicket for facial recognition to verify the
identity of people entering the stadium. They said they're excited
to roll it out. It's going to be a credentialing
initiative to show up vulnerabilities for high security zones including
the playing field, locker rooms, and press boxes. And if
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you've seen a demonstration of this thing, it's pretty wild.
You could pretty much zoom anywhere in the stadium and
get a close person.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I looked through this, I did, I sold the demonstration.
It's great technology. How's that going to stop anything?
Speaker 3 (34:45):
In real time? I mean, I understand for repeat offenders.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It'll stop someone who has come into the stadium and
done something bad, but then it's going to take that
before you get their identity by using this software, and
so it's going to stop them a second time around,
not the first time.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's why, like this whole spiel about how this.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
Is gonna help them, I don't really understand unless you're
talking about being able to work with other law enforcement
departments to stop criminals for getting insure. But even then,
you know, how fast are they going to be able
to take noticing someone, confirming it's that someone, and then
getting to them before they're able to do something bad.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
Yeah, they use this word accountability that they're trying to
keep people accountable, but yet you're right, like, how are
you gonna.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Are they scanning in when they go into the into
the ring?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
Everything, man, all the whole systems watched and it's all
a they're all seeing their facial.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
But what I'm saying is like how you go to
the airport, now you have to look into the camera.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Which is actually optional. Do you know that you don't
have to look into it? There's signs posted, they won't
tell you that. But when you go to TSA For
all those folks out there listening. If you have to
travel on an airplane, you do not have to look into it.
It is completely optional. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I don't know. I don't have anything to hat. I
just smiley. Well it's not that, it's just like why
did they need it? Why they need it? Right? Like
for example, I used clear because you're.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Being hostile there you go, don't use which they already
use your facial recognition, fingerprinting and all that. So why
do I have to give that to the CSA pre
you know? Yeah, but I don't know. You know, I
did not know that. Yeah, you got anything else?
Speaker 8 (36:28):
Now, I'm not a big fan of it, but I
would be surprised that they've been using this a lot
longer than we even know about.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, I do have something else, and I'm sure hold.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
On, hold on.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
Do you think they've been using it longer they're just
now announcing it publicly?
Speaker 8 (36:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I do. Okay, what makes you think that?
Speaker 8 (36:45):
Because they've always had this technology. It's just whether it
just came out on LinkedIn, like it just got leaked.
But I mean this wicked company. Yeah, maybe it's a
new partnership with this company, but they've always had the
ability to zoom in and catch you and do facial recognition.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
My question is, are you gonna ply to other events,
Like if you're hard Rock Stadium for the Miami Dolphins,
could you have prevented that whole melee thing that occurred
at hard Rock Stadium, all the people getting into the stadium,
Like would that?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Would that have stopped that?
Speaker 4 (37:10):
My guess is no, because people just were bombarding that
stadium in security to get in like that wasn't like
a facial recognition problem, but it could You could catch them.
Speaker 8 (37:21):
Yeah, you can catch them afterwards. So it's a de
turn that you wouldn't want to do it.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Yeah, good luck, good luck catching them. See how that works? Right?
Speaker 8 (37:28):
Uh, guys, I'm sure you did catch this. But if
you didn't, did you see the French pole vaulter who
clipped what happened?
Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (37:36):
Anthony amer Amy Roddy, a prominent French pole vaulter, was
in his first heat Saturday morning when he was trying
to flip over the bar in the pull pull vault
and his uh well endowed remember kept him from passing
to the next next heat.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yeah as well, and doubt member kept him from passing
through the heat.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Yeah, it hit the hit the pole brought it down.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Man first off, his leg hit it first, all right,
everyone's making a big deal his his his like kneecap
cap hit about his kneecap, and that it did happen
to brush against his French sausage.
Speaker 8 (38:11):
Question is would you have traded a little bit of
what was going on down there for a gold medal?
Speaker 3 (38:20):
The best person to ask Lee.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Eh well, Vart, did you actually see this when it happened?
Speaker 3 (38:27):
I did not, But I'm going to look for.
Speaker 5 (38:29):
It easy to catch.
Speaker 3 (38:32):
I'm going to look for what's that search history
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