August 21, 2024 • 48 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Mike Gundy and Oklahoma State unveil QR code for an NIL fund the day after complaining about players asking for money. The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to preview the College Football Season. And the NFL decides to gauge fans for the Sunday Ticket.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington, Rady Winn and Jonas Knots on
Fox four.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio yesterday, we discussed some comments recently for Mike Gundhi,
the head coach at Oklahoma State. Let's take a listen
to those. We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
About there's no negotiating now, portals over all negotiations history.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Now we're playing football.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You know, the business side of what we do now
is is we have to have those conversations with him.
You know, tell your agent quick calling us and asking
for Maloneia. It's non negotiable. Now start again in December.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oklahoma State announced yesterday the players will be wearing a
QR code on their helmets, linking a donation page to
the school's nil phat this season.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
So for me, he goes from saying that, then yeah,
we hate it.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
By the way, did we get those QR codes put
on the back of the helmets?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Makeing sure so we could, you know, make sure we
get these players paid.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It does feel a little bit odd. I just swear
how many players, how many players who are like hold on, dude,
like you just told us, like tell our agents stop calling.
Get back to me in December. But here's a QR
code you can link and donate to our nil fond
I just yeah, old things kind of wild man.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I love Mike Gundy though he's he's one of the best.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
I mean, he tells it how it is, or at
least how he sees it from his perspective. And what
I like about it is, this is the first team
we've kind of heard of doing and being this emboldened
in trying to make sure they stay amongst the rest,
amongst the top in college football. And for Oklahoma State,
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that's going to hit home a bit because your in
state rival has just left to go to another conference,
which is, you know, taking away at least as we
used to know it and what that would mean potentially
for the conference. But that had to have been a
wake up check for a lot of Cowboys fans in
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watching their hated rival.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
If you will move.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
On to the SEC and be in a safe haven
as we watch the world of college sports continue to change,
Oklahoma's a better spot than Oklahoma State, and so you've
got to do these sort of creative things in order
to remain at the top or competitive and at least
they're willing to do it. At least they're willing to try,
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so I give them a lot of credit. I know
it's going to come with some criticism. I do think
it literally stands in the way of the pay for play.
When you start putting a QR code where you can
literally go donate in that moment to that fund and
help out student athletes, it feels that it is pay
for play, And obviously the NCAA isn't wanting to be,
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given the issues they faced in court anytime they do
try to get in the way of nil and where
this whole thing's going.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, talk about price on your head, huh. I just
think I just think that it's a tad bit. I
don't know. I want to say it's innovative. I mean,
I saw it yesterday, saw it pretty early. I mean
it's a sign of the times. You know, there's so
many different ways of trying to figure out how this
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all works and what direction you take it in. No
one's going to be more endearing to the fans than
the players, you know, the ones that are participating. So
I guess there's that element of it. But I just
think that the deeper this rabbit hole continues to get
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and the more the more information that continues to come
out and is developed uping around N I L. It's
just to me, it's screaming for structure. There's just not
enough infrastructure in place for NI L two be safe.
(04:17):
I just don't feel like it's a safe place. I
really don't. And and then until there are enough enough
things structure structurally speaking, unless there's more in place to
be able to give parameters to create, I guess maybe
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a safer a safer place. I don't. I don't. Maybe
that's not what I'm looking for, word wise, but I
just feel like N I L, you know, And I'm
deep into in I L. I'm doing a lot of
work in N I L, and it just seems to
be so much lack of understanding as to what what
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the space should represent maybe versus what the space is
representing right now. I think some some people are trying
to do it as correct as they possibly can under
the circumstances of not truly understanding what what NIL represents.
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I think you're trying to do the best by your school,
You're trying to do the best by the athletes, and
and what does that look like, what is that? You know,
is it putting QR codes on a helmet? I mean,
I don't know. I think I think the ultimate the
ultimate resolution does not exist in fundraising, through through the
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through the fans. I mean, it just doesn't exist there.
It's going it's going to have to come from from
rev sharing. It's going to have to come from TV money.
If you ask me, because you're already you're already tapping
into you know, a resource that is using their money already.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What's the minimum donation going to be? What would you guess,
like a dollar? Are they going to go under a dollar?
Like we what do we think?
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Well, yeah, think about it. I mean, I don't know
how much that stadium sits. There are seats, but imagine
you've got a sold out game and I don't know,
if it's sixty thousand, everyone donates a buck, that's a
sixty thousand.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
You multiply that by what's six home games.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
There's right there three hundred and sixty thousand dollars, so
that could go to it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They said, they said in the release that it'll be
an inch and a half the box on the back
of the helmet, the QR code will be an inch
and a half. They said, it won't be visible from
the stands, but you'll be able to do it from home.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
On from your couch.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
They'll yeah, but they'll also be able to put up
with the chubbu trotum.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Saying at the games, let me try and find attendance there.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I wonder what they're It's not a big stadium, but
it's one of the most The confines are tight.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It is an intimate atmosphere.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
The way the fans there can bang on the sides
of the pads actually down.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
There a field level fifty four thousand.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
It's a pretty cool atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I wonder if they have good internet during the gang
you know where they can go in and do it.
I just don't know who. I just don't know who's
going to do that. Like I'm prompted to use a
qr co to give money.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
When a guy hits a big play, you don't think
if they show his helmet, they're not gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let me let me donate to him. Do it that
to my boy, Yeah, you know I'm gonna do it.
I just want to try it. I just want to
see what it is and then depending on how my
bet goes on Oklahoma State, Like that'll determine how much
I'm willing to donate. Like if I if I win
twenty bucks on Oklahoma State on like a first quarter bet,
then I'll be like, you know what, I'll give you
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five of that, And then if they cost me money,
then I'll give him like a dollar, you know, just
to like I'll just like decrease it as the game
goes on. So this could be a lot of fun,
but it's innovative. I'm just wondering how much they could
pull in a game, like like what would be you know,
five grand, ten grand? Like what are we talking about here?
That would be worth them? You know, putting this on
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and having him go with Jonas. I don't know, man,
I mean I'm used to powerhouse programs like Hawaii. I
don't know if Oklahoma State's got that kind of leverage.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Are they going to have a week zero opponent? Have
we got an update on there?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Have they made it there?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yet? Did they?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What was they? Ten? I saw ten hours late or
something like that that that Delaware State was.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Oh, it's a ten and a half hour flight.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I thought, okay, well listen, man, you know whatever it is,
you're you're running into things there. Timmy Chang's got that
team firing on all cylinders. That'll be like sixty five
hundred people there to watch it.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So playoff bound, playoff bound this year?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Maybe, I mean, now that they've expanded it, they're not
going to screw him over anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You know what was this year? Yeah? You know, okay,
Rainbow Warriors.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
They were getting and squeezed out all right there. Hey,
by the way, how about who's the guy from West
Virginia who's trash talking Penn State? Now he's making some
uh some comments. Uh, Garnett Hollis Junior said, quote last
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year they ran some of the same stuff against Northwestern
as they did us in Week one. They're the same team.
They don't show too much respect for their opponents unless
it's Michigan or Ohio State. Any think about that bar
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
He's entitled to his opinion. You know, I would say
our offense isn't good enough to be picking and choosing,
you know, how we call the game. I think I
think they certainly want to put their best foot forward
every week. What do you think there's a lot of
pressure on Penn State to win. There's a lot of
pressure on James Franklin to win. What do you think
(10:02):
about this though? They think every team is just going
to give them the game. When we go out there
and punch them in the mouth and we take the
life from them, that's going to be the difference. We
got the quarterback to do it, We got the offense
to put up points against those guys. We got the
defense to shut them down. I'm ready to go against them. Wait, well,
last year, you know they were able to run the ball.
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They had a little bit of success running the ball
last year. I mean, I think West Virginia is a
good team, and they do have a good quarterback that's returning.
I mean, I'm not sure how good their offensive line
will be. Their old line was the catalysts of why
they were, to me so good at least so formidable
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in that game against US last year. But make no
mistake about it, Penn State's defensive front will more than
likely be better than what it was last year. No
oh yeah, oh yeah. The now Sutton is going to
like remember the name, number thirty three is going to
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be ignorant as a defensive end. And they then they
moved Abdul to the other end. He's almost I mean
he's I mean, he's special at that position. You got
Zaine Durant on the inside with a host of other
defense that de von els their their defensive front is
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going to be better than what it was last year.
I know we had a dec how didn't we go?
Speaker 6 (11:38):
How do you feel about the fact that, I mean,
the cornerback made the comment that Penn State only gets
up or shows respect for Michigan Ohio State, that that's it.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I do feel the legitimacy in that.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I don't buy that. No. I think they if anything,
I think I think that against Michigan and Ohio State
pennst eight, and I think even historically, I just think
they get tight against against Ohio State in Michigan. I
don't know how this coaching staff is, but it just
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seems as though you know that reputation is is something
that would be connected to us, that we get tight
and while we could play better, we don't because of
the magnitude of the game, whether it be coaching, whether
it be playing, we just haven't proven that we can
win those games. And I think a lot of it
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has to do with the way we view ourselves as
it applies to in comparison to those two programs in particular.
But they go out there to win every week, and
you can get clipped by a team like West Virginia.
You can get clipped by other teams that you know,
Wisconsin and Iowa. You can get clipped by Minnesota. I
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know that firsthand, you know, or Purdue. They can get you,
like teams in the big can get you. Maryland could
could run up on you and they could get you.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So I was gonna ask you, this is kind of
a tricky spot, right especially opening week like that. You're
gonna have to go because that place is gonna be It's.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Going to be rocket. Morgantown is going to be rocket. Yeah,
it's going to be. It's going to be a good game.
It was a good game last year. It was a
good game last year. So I don't, I don't. I
think I think that's kind of him trying to to
convince himself of something that makes it bigger to them,
make it a bigger game to them, but it's a
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big game to Penn State. I don't think anybody's walking
into this looking at it, taking it lightly as if
they can't win. I've been around this team quite a bit.
I've been, like, I've been in State College quite a
big You've been in practice, Yeah, I've seen them practice.
I've been I've been around them. So I think they
they understand that they got a unique opportunity here, and
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none of them want to They certainly don't want to
give up a game at any point in time. You
know that. I think that this is the type of
group they want to win every game. So I just
think that's more so how he feels as a player.
I mean, maybe it's an inferiority complex. Maybe he just
feels like Penn State thinks they're better in his mind,
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because maybe he believes Penn State is better than them.
I don't. I don't really know where where the origin
of him feeling that way came from, because I mean,
we only played on one time. I mean this current group,
they I think they've only played last year. So he
doesn't even know enough about Penn State to even to
even you know, talk about him.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now, Will you be making an appearance on the set
of Big New Kickoff starring Rob Stone.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No, I'll be there next week. I'll be there next week.
All next week, but I leave on Friday. Come see
man Man play, so every game I can see him play,
I'm gonna come. Swe I wanted to go to Morgantown,
though I've never been there for a game. I heard
that the puddle jumping parties are amazing, but yeah, I
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won't be at that one now. I don't know. I
heard they party really hard in Morgantown, Man, And I
heard at some point it gets a little gets a
little out of hand and people start jumping into mud puddles,
and you know, one thing leads to another. I guess
I don't know. Well, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, well it's gonna be fun. Right around the corner,
just a few days away, we got real college football.
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So it is a Wednesday. We've got traditions on the show,
and one of those is the old pe Petros Papadakas.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to seventy,
LA Sports Fox College Football analyst as well too, and
the old pe on x Petros. Good morning, how we feeling?
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Hello?
Speaker 8 (16:38):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
We're good. I was trying to figure out I thought
we were. We had discussed you getting an intro song
when you come onto the show, but apparently you say
the show's taste.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
In music is not my taste. Your show has a
terrible taste in music.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Yeam, okay, I mean not LeVar LaVar knows I want
to be loved by I get it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I get it. A couple of white guys.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
But yeah, you you dressed like you are in a
Motorhead cover band. And then Brady's Brady stood for every
song and I imagine and he's gonna get all defensive
and imagine Dragons concert.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
So it's very.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Difficult for all of them, right, you know, and probably
Zach Bryan and a bunch of other stuff. So it's hard.
I like Bran though, is Zach Brian or Luke Bryan.
I don't know that there is Zach Bryan. The white
dudes with the trucker hats that and all the girls.
And I don't know if I made this point on
the show. Uh, but I don't go out much, as
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you guys know. I'm a bit of an agora phobe.
I get nervous and anxious if I'm out. And I
used to go to concerts a lot, Like I used
to go to a concert every night when I lived,
Uh not every night, maybe four or five nights a
week when I lived right, I lived in LA and
I would go to the little venues. I'd go to
(18:01):
the Troubadour, or I'd go to the Echo Plex or
the Smell Downtown or the Knitting Factory when it was
opening all these places, and I would see all kinds
of crazy shows. The music scene in a big city
for shows like that at places like that is really great.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
But anyway, a.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Couple months ago, I got back on my horse and
went to a show and I stood there at the
Wilturn Theater and I just could not believe how miserable
and ugly all the people that go to the music
shows that I like are, you know, as opposed to
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like who is the Zach Brian Lupbrian Colmb's jelly roll
whatever all these country guys are Where the Kansas City
Chiefs show up. Every one of those shows has like
thirty billion hot chicks with huge missile boobs.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ye were enough? Yeah you know what I.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Mean, like like like jeans and are all torn up
that are all the way up there their crack, yeah,
just huge, just boobling boots.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, it's a Zeppelin party.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Right, It's yeah, it's warheads, you know, it's like Ukraine
versus Russia Canids And and then I look around at
my shows and it's all like purple haired chicks with
huge eyebrows, and it's just like what, you know, why
why is everybody that likes the music. Why does having
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good taste in music come along with being so miserable,
so sad and so ugly? Yeah, and you know I'm miserable,
sad and ugly too. It's not like I'm any better
than that. And then the worse than that, I'm old,
So it's terrible. But yeah, I did notice that about me.
Having good taste in music means you get to be
around good looking people. I guess I.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Mean bad tasted music. That means good looking people.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
Good taste in music equals misery, sadness, and a general
feeling of unhappiness and discontent.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Right tetros. It's almost here though. Why we got Week
zero this week?
Speaker 8 (20:14):
College football?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I mean, come on, you gotta.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Let's go. I can't believe. I can't believe this.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
My uh my mic is working because my internet's down
at the house, so technically I shouldn't even be on
right now, but I was.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I would look aside from the football, God's Petrick.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Right, I would look up the week zero schedule right
now if I could.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I want to stage Orgia Tech. We got that in Dublin, Ireland, all.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Right, that's the Brady Quinn Bowl. Why why does anybody
care about what happens in.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Ireland if Notre Dame's not playing.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Agreed there, it's it's really the country itself is trying
to make this an annual thing as they try to
grow the sport of American football. So it's it's it's
kind of there in this they've got going on. It's cool, man,
I would say, any school that's looking at doing it,
you got to sacrifice a home game.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
But it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Bens.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Well, if you play at Georgia Tech right or Florida
State in twenty twenty four, you could say.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Yeah, I went to Dublin with my team. I mean
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right, Petros, what are your thoughts on Montana State, New
Mexico for Eastern Time on FS one.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
That's the Tim Brando game. Yeah, nice, that's the Tim
Brando Devon Gardner debut. Because they hired Devon Gardner, the
great Michigan quarterback, to work with Timmy B.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
And I guess.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Spencer, Yeah whatever to Spencer, he moved to a different crew,
oh man, him and Timmy B had a good time
in the booth all the time.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Maybe too good a time, perhaps, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Maybe That's what I don't know.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
You know, everything must change, winter turns the spring. Everybody's
a milk carton. We all have an expiration date.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Some milk garden.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
I'm interested in New Mexico because I sat with Bronco
Mendenhall over the summer and it was like sitting with.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Aristotle or something.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Not very football coachie, but very interesting and a guy
who's been at BYU and obviously at Virginia and now
at New Mexico, which is kind of like a last
chance you situation, and it has been for a little bit.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Of a while, and Rocky Long.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Really actually made New Mexico football relevant. Rocky Long, Yeah,
that extra the extra safety, that wacky defense that they ran,
and then they brought in a guy that ran it
under him in Danny Rodriguez, and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
So now they got Bronco.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
So I am interested in that game actually because I
sat with Bronco and they said they're going to be a.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Lot better SMU. Nevada.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Okay, I'm interested in Nevada because they hired, uh, they
hired a coach from Texas, the defensive coordinator at Texas.
His name is Choate yeah, and uh I was. I
sat with him too, and I was impressed with him.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Uh do you know where he was born?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Choate? Yeah, Dublin, Clumbus, Ohio.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Baby Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
What's the connection?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
That's where I was born. I born the same hospital.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Wow, she about that.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
My wife and I were born in the same hospital
about a month apart.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
What's the chances of that night didn't mean till college?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
That's pretty crazy. Her dad, you know, in the little
baby room.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Well maybe, yeah, Well I don't know. I wasn't there
for a month.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
Jeez, Brady, It's not like I was a kid with
a big tube stuck up his note.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Maybe she was still there waiting on you.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Maybe this is like one of those those rom columns
we could come up with a script for is.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
San Pedro, California.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Your dad was in the navy. That's all okay?
Speaker 9 (24:04):
But yeah, you're right, you know, maybe they took me
back for jaundice or something like. Oh but yes, I
am interested in the back as well.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
And this kid looks like a minion. We get him
another two.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Number. They named their quarterback.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
Long Yeah Miller Moss.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
How you feel about oh yeah, how you feel about
this team.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
I don't know, but Miller Moss was kind of the
guy that was going to get the job.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Anyway.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
They brought in a guy named Jaden Mayava from UNLV, Yeah,
who started most of his freshman year and led one
of the great UNLV seasons at least in recent memory,
like twenty thirty years, and then he took money to
be a backup at SC. Miller Moss had a great
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performance in the Holiday Bowl against Louisville. Yeah, without without
Kayleb Williams just running around like a chicken with his
head cut off, the offense kind of ran on time
and it seemed like a real breath of fresh air
for the team. I don't know how that translates to
Lincoln Riley Collin plays on time all year in twenty
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twenty four without more of a freelance style quarterback.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Spectacular but freelance.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
And USC's got their defensive problems, they had their identity problems.
But it's got to be remembered that USC went seven
and seven in Kayleb Williams last fourteen games, and we're
just we're talking about one of the great quarterback prospects
in a long time consensus number one pick, and they
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were five hundred. Not in the big, tough, angry big ten.
That's going to knock the hair off their puzzo, but
that's right. But in the Pac twelve, damn they were
seven and seven and there's a loss to tu Lane
in there.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
So if Caleb Williams can't lead you.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Under Lincoln Riley to victory consistently, what can Miller Moss do?
Maybe he can do more, I don't know. Maybe the
new defensive identity of USC's football team, at least with
the coaching staff they hired and Doug Belk and Matt
Enttz and Danton Lynn the coordinator, maybe they can do
a lot better job.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
But I don't.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
I have absolutely no idea what Lincoln Riley is going
to look like without Caleb Williams on the West coast
and what his team will be like without his air
raid defensive staff that he brought in for the last three.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Years or two years.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
So that part of it, that part of it is
a real mystery. They play Utah State in there early,
but they have to go to this LSU game, and
some LSU media thing reached out to me this week
and was like, you know, can we get a comment
about these two great pros taking on each other? And
I was like, yeah, it's great to see LSU playing
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a game against anybody west of the mississip No, right,
but that's just west of the When was the last
time LSU played anybody west of the Mississippi?
Speaker 8 (27:18):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
If that's if that's all you're capping it off.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
I mean, no, no, I'm just saying it doesn't happen
much to see a great program like that out here.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
They just don't do it.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
I remember Georgia came out when they had Matt Stafford,
for God's sakes, to play against Arizona.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
State, and it's a big deal.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
So for those of us it's always don't get all
east coast in and get your blood up, Brady. I'm
just saying it's a big deal when they come west
to the Mississippi. Awkward is that USC spent the whole
offseason trying to get out of the game. And that's
a Fox versus.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
ESPN kind of thing.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
But I mean, what's LSU going to be like, They'll
they'll be without their quarterback that ran around and did
everything for them for the last couple of years, Ryan
Kelly will be with his family.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Hey, ain't done winning yet?
Speaker 8 (28:02):
You mean the commodore Colonel Kelly.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
Yes, I was then family in the Second Manassas when
we took Bull Run.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
We ain't done winning yet.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I look forward to seeing what they're going to be like.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
But I have no real prediction other than you know,
eight wins is a good season.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I guess the main event for LSU or Southern col.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
For Southern Col, I don't think much about Baton Rouge.
I work at Fox Damn.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Other than Commodore Kelly.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
By the way, Patrick, it took me like.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
Six months to be like, really, that kid in Arizona
State's gonna win the Heisman?
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Alright, I guess I'll.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Look uh So. The main event for week zero is
the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors hosting Powerhouse Delaware State, and Hawaii's
a thirty nine point favorite.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Dude, I like Hawaii to take it to UCLA week one.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yes, game under their belt? Why not?
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Timmy Chang, Ladies and gentlemen, double fisting tall boys?
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Look out.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Let me tell you about my conversation with Timmy Chang
in Vegas. The Hawaii head coach, I said, coach, tell me,
do you get the support that you need from the
school and the community, And he said frankly, Petros, no,
we don't.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, what gave it away that they tore the
stadium down.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
I mean it fits like three thousand people. Delaware State
is not the Blue Hens, though, Delaware is the Blue Hens.
And well LeVar knows all about it because that's his territory. Flacco, right,
was a blue hand and rich, Yes, what's Delaware State?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm looking at the hornets, the Delaware State hornets.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Like Sack State.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
All right, Yeah, you don't mess with that.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
No, nobody wants to get stung by a hornet on
the balls.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
So you know they can keep stinging you too, yeah,
like not like a bee, like they die.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah, they have the blue stinger, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, it stays hard and fresh.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Damn right.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
All right.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
So I don't know what LSU is going to be like,
I'm vaguely familiar with what USC will be.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Can I ask you general question, Petros?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
I mean that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Well, I'm just saying, like, in regards to preseason rankings,
do you feel like they're necessary?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Do you are you a fan of it, are you not.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I think we talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
They hurt teams that are not ranked that end up
being great, right, You end up having to climb and
climb and climb, and people forget about you, and it
takes months and months to be legitimate. Now in the
current model, with all these playoff teams, I guess it
doesn't really matter. And even with TCU a few years back,
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with only a fourteen playoff, it didn't really matter, right,
They kept winning week after week until somebody woke up
and paid attention and everybody was like, oh my god,
TCU's going to go to the playoff, and they did
so and they won a game. So yeah, I guess
it doesn't hurt you as bad as you think, but
it just media wise, it confuses people because perennially every
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year there's two or three teams in the top ten
that finish unranked, like USC last year with the greatest
quarterback on the history of the game who started every game,
and they still finished the season on rank. So that
part of it bothers me a little bit, but I'm
way past You have to.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Have the little number next to the logo to watch
the game kind of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, that's a that's a real lazy way to watch
college football and college basketball.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I must be a lazy mother effort. Boy. Well, I
mean I look for that number.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
But we're all conditioned for that, right, Like, that's what
we're conditioned to do. And it's wrong, I mean, but
but you always do want the best games in the rank, right.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
But I feel like that's exactly what you just said.
I feel like it tells me like if it was
a team that isn't necessarily on my radar, like, okay,
this team is ranked, like, yeah, what lost this game?
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Five star recruit thing, you know, like every five star
recruit doesn't pan out, but the more five star recruits
that you bring in, more likely it is, you pro.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
It'd be a pretty good football.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Well that's well, you know, but part of that is
a hype train too, you know, And that's why the
whole five star recruit thing is is fools gold. And
that's why, you know, sometimes the rankings are fools gold.
But he's still no, he went to Boise State.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
He just lost that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Okay, that's why he just lost the job too.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
He lost the job to a short fat guy.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
Oh Madden, Yeah, Madson Maddox Madson as some little, short
fat guy who played a little bit last year. But
I mean, that's one of those interesting things. You're talking about.
A guy who's a big recruit out of high school
and he got almost three hundred thousand dollars to never
really take a snap at SC and then he enters
the portal and because he was a five star recruited
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se even though he didn't win a job to save
his life, even though they wanted him to beat out
Miller Moss, he was their bigger recruit, didn't win a
job to save his life. Six foot five, kind of
slow twitch. The arm didn't develop into the wild, crazy
arm talent that everybody predicted. I'm not saying he can't
be a good college quarterback or beyond, but he gets
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paid again off that hype at Boise State, probably another
few hundred thousand dollars, and he's sitting on a pile
of cash to never play and get beat out twice
at least so far. So that's modern college football. And
I guess that's a way to ride the rankings and
get paid without ever actually proving it. But the teams
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have to prove it, LeVar, They're going to have to play, yeah,
even if Malachi doesn't.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Petros, do you know your schedule for calling games yet
or how I have a week one? Okay? What are
we looking at?
Speaker 9 (34:21):
I got Wyoming, which who I like, and Arizona Boy
Arizona State, who's picked to be last in the Big twelve.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I was just gonna ask you, how do you think
they'll be this year?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
How will they find? Well?
Speaker 8 (34:32):
I looked at it.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
I mean I did a couple of their games early
last year, and they got beat in a They got
beat in a tussle with Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State ended
up being really good or a lot better than we thought.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
At least under Mike Dundy.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
And then they got ass handed to.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Them by Fresno State, who was much more complete top
to bottom football team. They were devastated up front and
a lot of problems. They certainly look like a much
deeper team. They brought in the Michigan State quarterback transfer
Sam Levitt, who.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I believe is going to be their starter.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
So Arizona State, I mean, there's be very hard to
say they're not going to be improved, but Wyoming's pretty
tough on all levels, top to bottom with that North
Dakota state style pedigree that Craig Bowl left for Jay Savel.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
So we'll see what it's like. But anyway, I'm looking
at it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'm working nice. Get him on Twitter or ex.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
But anybody cares. There's no little ranking by those teams.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yes, we'll be watching.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
I won't be watching.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
He is the co host of the Petro Some Money
Show on the Blowtorch A five seventy LA Sports Fox time.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Is that state game?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
New and Eastern come on, Big New kickoff Baby, Yeah, Star.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Be in Morgantown. Yeah, I will be watching. Q. I'll watch.
I always watched the Big.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
New I mean your part washing the Penn State game
two I have.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
I think I have a Little Moon in a couple
of weeks. You know what little Moon is?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (36:05):
That's the f S one Noon game. You got Big
Moon on Fox eleven and Little Noon on.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six a m.
Speaker 8 (36:21):
Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Are we doing? Uh? The bq N coming up here soon?
Are we doing? Are you and A you out?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
We can do BQN. I mean I would like to retire?
Are you in a?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Are you? You?
Speaker 8 (36:35):
And you out?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You want to done?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
For?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I mean I personally would I don't know that anyone really.
You know, it's itching for our it's your sticky conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Okay, Lee, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well?
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Those are two very different segments. So would you rather
which I had a good? Would you rather did I
send it to you?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Lorena?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What was the good?
Speaker 10 (36:57):
Would you rather have sent you yesterday?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
You didn't send much of that?
Speaker 8 (37:01):
While we're on it?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Would you rather have two hours late or two hours early?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
That was it?
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Yes, I would rather be two hours early.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
That's me late.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Not not a fan of that.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Would you rather have fruit roll up or fruit by
the foot?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That's a really good one. Actually, I'm gonna go roll
up because that's my time.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
It feels like that's a little more natural too.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I know neither really are, but I feel like the
fruit roll ups felt not as bad for you I.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Used to crush?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Is that the meat headed me? Were you? Were you
now when you guys ate them, were you the folded
up and put the whole thing in or were you
just trying to make it straight out? And I break pieces.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I pretend like it was chaw like I put it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
In my cheek.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I always tore it into little stringy bits.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
And I liked it when they had the tattoos on
them too, And you tattoo your your tongue. Yeah, we
see they made it for somebody who cared.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
What it was on it. It tastes the same. What
does it matter?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
See I didn't know that either.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
See I I do disagree with you just as slightly.
I agree with that now that I know. I chose
fruit by the foot yesterday, thinking to myself, well you could.
You know, you could break half of it off and
save it for later, and it's no big deal because
it's it's the package.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
And fruit roller.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
But you never just.
Speaker 10 (38:30):
Eat a little bit. You eat the whole thing the
whole time every time. You never save it for later.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Every single one I put the whole thing. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't save any for later. I don't
do broken pieces off like I do it. Fruit bout
of foot is the one you unroll, right, Yeah, on
the pay where you unroll it's different colors. Yeah, I
put that, I roll it back up. I unroll it
and then I roll it back up.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's basically like it's just a tape measure of cavity.
Just shove it into your mouth and then just deal.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
With melt in your mouth.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
But the fruit is so much thicker, and therefore I
think worse for you. I think it's so much I know,
I know, I know, I know. I'm sorry, Lee, I'm
sorry too. I'm sorry everybody. But it's it's got to
be so much sugar and it sticks in your gums.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Man, the fruit roll ups seem like it's just all
artificial crap.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh yeah, all that stuff is. But all right, so
that's the end of would you have the day?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
All right?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
So so what are we deciding on you? And you
is done? And then uh are we keeping with you?
Let's do b news every day, dude, every day every day.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I'll basically do it with in case you missed it.
That's that's essentially what that's like.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay, what if we do like rotating additions like it'll
be uh the l a news, the l D News,
and we take turns each day and we come up
with stories and we throw them an do that like
you'll get yeah lead to lap news. No, yeah, you're
not doing it LA news. I'm not going to not
(40:09):
going to all right, well we do have a little
bit of a problem.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Eddie's got to have news.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, well, I mean Eddi's always got news. By the way, Uh, apparently,
according to John our end of puck Dot News, the
out of market package for NFL Sunday ticket is available
via the Apple Store. And yeah that's I mean, listen,
I mean red zone included. I mean, you know, just
(40:38):
a quick and easy seven and thirty nine dollars ninety
nine cents for the year. So the league told him
that the pricing isn't its business. Quote, the NFL does
not control the pricing of Sunday ticket and does not
set or receive any additional fees associated with its sale.
So apparently we got Now, if you have the YouTube
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TV package, obviously it's not going to be that much.
But if you just go the Apple route, seven hundred
and forty dollars for the year.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Can we philosophically talk about that statement by the NFL. Yeah,
they're the ones that accept and drive up their rights
fees to keep driving up revenue. So if the NFL
really wanted to make it more accessible for the out
of market games, they could, they would just not sell
(41:28):
the rights for as much. But the owners want the money.
The teams obviously you don't want the money. The league
wants to keep growing their bottom line their revenue. So yes,
they are in essence and control of it. Now, what
Direct TV is going to sell your apple in this case,
is going to any of these and any of the
ways you go about watching it. What they sell it
for is a byproduct of what they're paying for it
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in the first place.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
So that is a lie by the NFL.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
But again you've got to I mean, that's that's the
cost of doing business.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Now, this is where the NFL has gotten.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
And I think a lot of people who go to
stadiums now recognize it where some of those seats that
used to be seats that have probably been held within
your family for a long time have been at times,
you know, pushed out or you know push somewhere else in.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
The stadium for luxury surets.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
And then to keep building on that client tell of
you know, higher dollar ticket sales as opposed to the
avid fans people who have been rooting for those those
franchises for decades. I mean, that's the newer model of
what all these teams and stadiums are doing. It's unfortunate,
but that's the that's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I mean, well, I mean, I'm a bad ask on
this because I'm a sucker. I'm going to pay whatever
they they charge for Sunday ticket.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
I mean, are you really?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
I mean, I just I'm betting on you, buddy.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Trust me, They're betting on you and making their business own.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Because I look at it like this. I don't look
at it as the cost of you know, like whatever
it is for YouTube TV this year, which is I
don't know, three hundred eighty bucks, four hundred dollars, like say,
we'll call it four hundred dollars. I don't look at
it as a four hundred dollars purchase. I look at
it as a four hundred dollars purchase that gives me
entertainment for four or five months. So I and I
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think that a lot of people view it as that.
That they look at it and say, listen, this is
my fun time. This is an opportunity. They'll have parties,
I'll have people over. And considering what you get, all
the games that you get for that amount of money,
I still don't think it's a bad deal. I just
but I love the NFL. I'm gonna watch it regardless,
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and so yeah, they are betting on me as opposed
to I would wonder what the difference is if you
got it at home and just stayed at home every
week as opposed to going to a bar. What's your
minimum spending at a bar to go watch Sunday games
at the NFL? Like thirty bucks.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
It's a little different though, like you're choosing to go
out and have to pay for drinks and and all
that stuff. You know, it's different when you're in your
own home where you used to be able to have
rabbity ers and tune in and watch a game. And
I understand the landscape's changed dramatically, but I think with
everything else going on with our economy, how expensive everything
has gotten, it is a little tone deaf to then
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roll out prices that are as expensive as they've ever
been and look, maybe they feel like they can do
it because everything costs more so.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
It's like, well, it's inflation, right, Like everything.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
Costs more, so we're gonna have to charge you as
the consumer more anyway. And then you're used to this,
so you're just gonna deal with it and you're just
gonna be Jonas and you're just gonna bend over a peril.
Speaker 8 (44:38):
And are they.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Are they still blacking out games?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
And if they do, well, that's what you're paying game on.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Okay, you don't get back, Ye're still blackout games, but
that's what you're paying for.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's the out of market And that's the other part
of this too, like you can't just depend on the
primetime games to give you the goods anymore because a
lot of the primetime games suck. So you you want
to watch these out of market games because they're better matchups,
like some of the Monday Night Football games. And yeah,
Troy Aikman and Joe Buck being there have helped the presentation.
Some of those games are brutal, like and we know
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what Thursday Night Football was, but still doesn't matter. To
Brady's point, I will be there and I will be
the recipient of whatever they decide they want to give
me every single year. It just is what it is.
Just I'm sorry, I'm a doormat and I'll continue to
come back for more. I love football, so you know,
you guys can go watch whatever you want to watch.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I still have a gripe with the NFL about how
they control all the game footage. I mean the fact
that college can turn it around and we can be
able to like just professionally digest it as an analyst,
like between a Monday and a Tuesday, you know, and
in the NFL will take to like a Wednesday to get
the All twenty two. It is so frustrating. It doesn't
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make any sense. You don't have as many games as
college football. You have a more legitimate set up technologically
and even for distribution. The fact that it takes that
long is just surprising and disappointing.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
To be honest, this is what it is.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I did get a text moments ago from my brother
who owns a restaurant slash bar.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
And he said, let's get some burn ins.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So Tyrone, said Tyrone. He said, he said that Sunday
ticket this year for his spot is ten five dollars.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Well, like you asking him what it was last year.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
But he's listening. He'll probably respond at some point.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Well, I'm just I'm curious, Well there's a little bit
of delay, but I'm curious as to the increase for
even bar owners. And I mean, and look, the truth
is is, ever since Nielsen now has been able to
rate bars and hotels and these common areas and places
that weren't initially a part of the rating service.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
At least that was what was stated.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
It's it's allowed the NFL to kind of keep pushing
these prices up because they're saying, this is the impact like.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
That we've had on your economy and your business.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
Like to your point, Jonas, that's what they're preaching everyone
is if you're.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
A bar and you don't have access.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
To all these you know games, and you don't want
to pay this price, so be it. But you're going
to see a return on your investment if you do
buyer package, if you do buy all these.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Games up from ninety two hundred last year, so went
out a little over thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
That's a hot markup, but that's that's a biggin with Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
He said, it's five hundred and eighty five dollars every
Sunday this year. So that's the man. But they kind
of got everybody by the balls because it's, you know,
the most popular thing going. So, uh, away we go.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
And you said, this bubble has bursted.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Explain I mean me, no, no, no, he was talking
about the notes.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
I think we're getting to the point where for some consumers,
the bubbles bursted.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
You're gonna price out some people and they're.
Speaker 6 (48:03):
Just not gonna be able to pay the package that
maybe they used to for some of the stuff that's
out there.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
I mean that's where I think.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
I think we're getting to that point where there's certain
consumers that are just gonna be out and they're gonna
try to consume however they can, but they're not gonna
pay those prices.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah,
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrington, Rady Winn and Jonas Knots on
Fox four.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Radio yesterday, we discussed some comments recently for Mike Gundhi,
the head coach at Oklahoma State. Let's take a listen
to those. We talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
About there's no negotiating now, portals over all negotiations history.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Now we're playing football.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You know, the business side of what we do now
is is we have to have those conversations with him.
You know, tell your agent quick calling us and asking
for Maloneia. It's non negotiable. Now start again in December.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Oklahoma State announced yesterday the players will be wearing a
QR code on their helmets, linking a donation page to
the school's nil phat this season.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
So for me, he goes from saying that, then yeah,
we hate it.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
By the way, did we get those QR codes put
on the back of the helmets?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Makeing sure so we could, you know, make sure we
get these players paid.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
It does feel a little bit odd. I just swear
how many players, how many players who are like hold on, dude,
like you just told us, like tell our agents stop calling.
Get back to me in December. But here's a QR
code you can link and donate to our nil fond
I just yeah, old things kind of wild man.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
I love Mike Gundy though he's he's one of the best.
Speaker 6 (01:28):
I mean, he tells it how it is, or at
least how he sees it from his perspective. And what
I like about it is, this is the first team
we've kind of heard of doing and being this emboldened
in trying to make sure they stay amongst the rest,
amongst the top in college football. And for Oklahoma State,
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that's going to hit home a bit because your in
state rival has just left to go to another conference,
which is, you know, taking away at least as we
used to know it and what that would mean potentially
for the conference. But that had to have been a
wake up check for a lot of Cowboys fans in
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watching their hated rival.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
If you will move.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
On to the SEC and be in a safe haven
as we watch the world of college sports continue to change,
Oklahoma's a better spot than Oklahoma State, and so you've
got to do these sort of creative things in order
to remain at the top or competitive and at least
they're willing to do it. At least they're willing to try,
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so I give them a lot of credit. I know
it's going to come with some criticism. I do think
it literally stands in the way of the pay for play.
When you start putting a QR code where you can
literally go donate in that moment to that fund and
help out student athletes, it feels that it is pay
for play, And obviously the NCAA isn't wanting to be,
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given the issues they faced in court anytime they do
try to get in the way of nil and where
this whole thing's going.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah, talk about price on your head, huh. I just
think I just think that it's a tad bit. I
don't know. I want to say it's innovative. I mean,
I saw it yesterday, saw it pretty early. I mean
it's a sign of the times. You know, there's so
many different ways of trying to figure out how this
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all works and what direction you take it in. No
one's going to be more endearing to the fans than
the players, you know, the ones that are participating. So
I guess there's that element of it. But I just
think that the deeper this rabbit hole continues to get
(03:54):
and the more the more information that continues to come
out and is developed uping around N I L. It's
just to me, it's screaming for structure. There's just not
enough infrastructure in place for NI L two be safe.
(04:17):
I just don't feel like it's a safe place. I
really don't. And and then until there are enough enough
things structure structurally speaking, unless there's more in place to
be able to give parameters to create, I guess maybe
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a safer a safer place. I don't. I don't. Maybe
that's not what I'm looking for, word wise, but I
just feel like N I L, you know, And I'm
deep into in I L. I'm doing a lot of
work in N I L, and it just seems to
be so much lack of understanding as to what what
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the space should represent maybe versus what the space is
representing right now. I think some some people are trying
to do it as correct as they possibly can under
the circumstances of not truly understanding what what NIL represents.
(05:24):
I think you're trying to do the best by your school,
You're trying to do the best by the athletes, and
and what does that look like, what is that? You know,
is it putting QR codes on a helmet? I mean,
I don't know. I think I think the ultimate the
ultimate resolution does not exist in fundraising, through through the
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through the fans. I mean, it just doesn't exist there.
It's going it's going to have to come from from
rev sharing. It's going to have to come from TV money.
If you ask me, because you're already you're already tapping
into you know, a resource that is using their money already.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What's the minimum donation going to be? What would you guess,
like a dollar? Are they going to go under a dollar?
Like we what do we think?
Speaker 6 (06:13):
Well, yeah, think about it. I mean, I don't know
how much that stadium sits. There are seats, but imagine
you've got a sold out game and I don't know,
if it's sixty thousand, everyone donates a buck, that's a
sixty thousand.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
You multiply that by what's six home games.
Speaker 6 (06:27):
There's right there three hundred and sixty thousand dollars, so
that could go to it.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
They said, they said in the release that it'll be
an inch and a half the box on the back
of the helmet, the QR code will be an inch
and a half. They said, it won't be visible from
the stands, but you'll be able to do it from home.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
On from your couch.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
They'll yeah, but they'll also be able to put up
with the chubbu trotum.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Saying at the games, let me try and find attendance there.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I wonder what they're It's not a big stadium, but
it's one of the most The confines are tight.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
It is an intimate atmosphere.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
The way the fans there can bang on the sides
of the pads actually down.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
There a field level fifty four thousand.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
It's a pretty cool atmosphere.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
I wonder if they have good internet during the gang
you know where they can go in and do it.
I just don't know who. I just don't know who's
going to do that. Like I'm prompted to use a
qr co to give money.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
When a guy hits a big play, you don't think
if they show his helmet, they're not gonna be like.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Let me let me donate to him. Do it that
to my boy, Yeah, you know I'm gonna do it.
I just want to try it. I just want to
see what it is and then depending on how my
bet goes on Oklahoma State, Like that'll determine how much
I'm willing to donate. Like if I if I win
twenty bucks on Oklahoma State on like a first quarter bet,
then I'll be like, you know what, I'll give you
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five of that, And then if they cost me money,
then I'll give him like a dollar, you know, just
to like I'll just like decrease it as the game
goes on. So this could be a lot of fun,
but it's innovative. I'm just wondering how much they could
pull in a game, like like what would be you know,
five grand, ten grand? Like what are we talking about here?
That would be worth them? You know, putting this on
(08:16):
and having him go with Jonas. I don't know, man,
I mean I'm used to powerhouse programs like Hawaii. I
don't know if Oklahoma State's got that kind of leverage.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Are they going to have a week zero opponent? Have
we got an update on there?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Have they made it there?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Yet? Did they?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
What was they? Ten? I saw ten hours late or
something like that that that Delaware State was.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
Oh, it's a ten and a half hour flight.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I thought, okay, well listen, man, you know whatever it is,
you're you're running into things there. Timmy Chang's got that
team firing on all cylinders. That'll be like sixty five
hundred people there to watch it.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
So playoff bound, playoff bound this year?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Maybe, I mean, now that they've expanded it, they're not
going to screw him over anymore.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You know what was this year? Yeah? You know, okay,
Rainbow Warriors.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
They were getting and squeezed out all right there. Hey,
by the way, how about who's the guy from West
Virginia who's trash talking Penn State? Now he's making some
uh some comments. Uh, Garnett Hollis Junior said, quote last
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year they ran some of the same stuff against Northwestern
as they did us in Week one. They're the same team.
They don't show too much respect for their opponents unless
it's Michigan or Ohio State. Any think about that bar
What do you think about that?
Speaker 4 (09:40):
He's entitled to his opinion. You know, I would say
our offense isn't good enough to be picking and choosing,
you know, how we call the game. I think I
think they certainly want to put their best foot forward
every week. What do you think there's a lot of
pressure on Penn State to win. There's a lot of
pressure on James Franklin to win. What do you think
(10:02):
about this though? They think every team is just going
to give them the game. When we go out there
and punch them in the mouth and we take the
life from them, that's going to be the difference. We
got the quarterback to do it, We got the offense
to put up points against those guys. We got the
defense to shut them down. I'm ready to go against them. Wait, well,
last year, you know they were able to run the ball.
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They had a little bit of success running the ball
last year. I mean, I think West Virginia is a
good team, and they do have a good quarterback that's returning.
I mean, I'm not sure how good their offensive line
will be. Their old line was the catalysts of why
they were, to me so good at least so formidable
(10:45):
in that game against US last year. But make no
mistake about it, Penn State's defensive front will more than
likely be better than what it was last year. No
oh yeah, oh yeah. The now Sutton is going to
like remember the name, number thirty three is going to
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be ignorant as a defensive end. And they then they
moved Abdul to the other end. He's almost I mean
he's I mean, he's special at that position. You got
Zaine Durant on the inside with a host of other
defense that de von els their their defensive front is
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going to be better than what it was last year.
I know we had a dec how didn't we go?
Speaker 6 (11:38):
How do you feel about the fact that, I mean,
the cornerback made the comment that Penn State only gets
up or shows respect for Michigan Ohio State, that that's it.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
Yeah, I do feel the legitimacy in that.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
I don't buy that. No. I think they if anything,
I think I think that against Michigan and Ohio State
pennst eight, and I think even historically, I just think
they get tight against against Ohio State in Michigan. I
don't know how this coaching staff is, but it just
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seems as though you know that reputation is is something
that would be connected to us, that we get tight
and while we could play better, we don't because of
the magnitude of the game, whether it be coaching, whether
it be playing, we just haven't proven that we can
win those games. And I think a lot of it
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has to do with the way we view ourselves as
it applies to in comparison to those two programs in particular.
But they go out there to win every week, and
you can get clipped by a team like West Virginia.
You can get clipped by other teams that you know,
Wisconsin and Iowa. You can get clipped by Minnesota. I
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know that firsthand, you know, or Purdue. They can get you,
like teams in the big can get you. Maryland could
could run up on you and they could get you.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
So I was gonna ask you, this is kind of
a tricky spot, right especially opening week like that. You're
gonna have to go because that place is gonna be It's.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Going to be rocket. Morgantown is going to be rocket. Yeah,
it's going to be. It's going to be a good game.
It was a good game last year. It was a
good game last year. So I don't, I don't. I
think I think that's kind of him trying to to
convince himself of something that makes it bigger to them,
make it a bigger game to them, but it's a
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big game to Penn State. I don't think anybody's walking
into this looking at it, taking it lightly as if
they can't win. I've been around this team quite a bit.
I've been, like, I've been in State College quite a
big You've been in practice, Yeah, I've seen them practice.
I've been I've been around them. So I think they
they understand that they got a unique opportunity here, and
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none of them want to They certainly don't want to
give up a game at any point in time. You
know that. I think that this is the type of
group they want to win every game. So I just
think that's more so how he feels as a player.
I mean, maybe it's an inferiority complex. Maybe he just
feels like Penn State thinks they're better in his mind,
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because maybe he believes Penn State is better than them.
I don't. I don't really know where where the origin
of him feeling that way came from, because I mean,
we only played on one time. I mean this current group,
they I think they've only played last year. So he
doesn't even know enough about Penn State to even to
even you know, talk about him.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now, Will you be making an appearance on the set
of Big New Kickoff starring Rob Stone.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
No, I'll be there next week. I'll be there next week.
All next week, but I leave on Friday. Come see
man Man play, so every game I can see him play,
I'm gonna come. Swe I wanted to go to Morgantown,
though I've never been there for a game. I heard
that the puddle jumping parties are amazing, but yeah, I
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won't be at that one now. I don't know. I
heard they party really hard in Morgantown, Man, And I
heard at some point it gets a little gets a
little out of hand and people start jumping into mud puddles,
and you know, one thing leads to another. I guess
I don't know. Well, we'll have to wait and see.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Yeah, well it's gonna be fun. Right around the corner,
just a few days away, we got real college football.
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Speaker 2 (16:18):
So it is a Wednesday. We've got traditions on the show,
and one of those is the old pe Petros Papadakas.
He is the co host of the Petros and Money Show,
which you can hear on the Blowtorch Am five to seventy,
LA Sports Fox College Football analyst as well too, and
the old pe on x Petros. Good morning, how we feeling?
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Hello?
Speaker 8 (16:38):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
We're good. I was trying to figure out I thought
we were. We had discussed you getting an intro song
when you come onto the show, but apparently you say
the show's taste.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
In music is not my taste. Your show has a
terrible taste in music.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
Yeam, okay, I mean not LeVar LaVar knows I want
to be loved by I get it.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I get it. A couple of white guys.
Speaker 9 (17:02):
But yeah, you you dressed like you are in a
Motorhead cover band. And then Brady's Brady stood for every
song and I imagine and he's gonna get all defensive
and imagine Dragons concert.
Speaker 8 (17:17):
So it's very.
Speaker 9 (17:17):
Difficult for all of them, right, you know, and probably
Zach Bryan and a bunch of other stuff. So it's hard.
I like Bran though, is Zach Brian or Luke Bryan.
I don't know that there is Zach Bryan. The white
dudes with the trucker hats that and all the girls.
And I don't know if I made this point on
the show. Uh, but I don't go out much, as
(17:39):
you guys know. I'm a bit of an agora phobe.
I get nervous and anxious if I'm out. And I
used to go to concerts a lot, Like I used
to go to a concert every night when I lived,
Uh not every night, maybe four or five nights a
week when I lived right, I lived in LA and
I would go to the little venues. I'd go to
(18:01):
the Troubadour, or I'd go to the Echo Plex or
the Smell Downtown or the Knitting Factory when it was
opening all these places, and I would see all kinds
of crazy shows. The music scene in a big city
for shows like that at places like that is really great.
Speaker 8 (18:18):
But anyway, a.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Couple months ago, I got back on my horse and
went to a show and I stood there at the
Wilturn Theater and I just could not believe how miserable
and ugly all the people that go to the music
shows that I like are, you know, as opposed to
(18:42):
like who is the Zach Brian Lupbrian Colmb's jelly roll
whatever all these country guys are Where the Kansas City
Chiefs show up. Every one of those shows has like
thirty billion hot chicks with huge missile boobs.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ye were enough? Yeah you know what I.
Speaker 9 (19:01):
Mean, like like like jeans and are all torn up
that are all the way up there their crack, yeah,
just huge, just boobling boots.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yeah, it's a Zeppelin party.
Speaker 9 (19:15):
Right, It's yeah, it's warheads, you know, it's like Ukraine
versus Russia Canids And and then I look around at
my shows and it's all like purple haired chicks with
huge eyebrows, and it's just like what, you know, why
why is everybody that likes the music. Why does having
(19:37):
good taste in music come along with being so miserable,
so sad and so ugly? Yeah, and you know I'm miserable,
sad and ugly too. It's not like I'm any better
than that. And then the worse than that, I'm old,
So it's terrible. But yeah, I did notice that about me.
Having good taste in music means you get to be
around good looking people. I guess I.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Mean bad tasted music. That means good looking people.
Speaker 9 (20:02):
Good taste in music equals misery, sadness, and a general
feeling of unhappiness and discontent.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Right tetros. It's almost here though. Why we got Week
zero this week?
Speaker 8 (20:14):
College football?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
I mean, come on, you gotta.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Let's go. I can't believe. I can't believe this.
Speaker 9 (20:23):
My uh my mic is working because my internet's down
at the house, so technically I shouldn't even be on
right now, but I was.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I would look aside from the football, God's Petrick.
Speaker 9 (20:34):
Right, I would look up the week zero schedule right
now if I could.
Speaker 5 (20:39):
I want to stage Orgia Tech. We got that in Dublin, Ireland, all.
Speaker 9 (20:43):
Right, that's the Brady Quinn Bowl. Why why does anybody
care about what happens in.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Ireland if Notre Dame's not playing.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Agreed there, it's it's really the country itself is trying
to make this an annual thing as they try to
grow the sport of American football. So it's it's it's
kind of there in this they've got going on. It's cool, man,
I would say, any school that's looking at doing it,
you got to sacrifice a home game.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
But it makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Bens.
Speaker 9 (21:08):
Well, if you play at Georgia Tech right or Florida
State in twenty twenty four, you could say.
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Yeah, I went to Dublin with my team. I mean
that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Right, Petros, what are your thoughts on Montana State, New
Mexico for Eastern Time on FS one.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
That's the Tim Brando game. Yeah, nice, that's the Tim
Brando Devon Gardner debut. Because they hired Devon Gardner, the
great Michigan quarterback, to work with Timmy B.
Speaker 8 (21:35):
And I guess.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Spencer, Yeah whatever to Spencer, he moved to a different crew,
oh man, him and Timmy B had a good time
in the booth all the time.
Speaker 9 (21:43):
Maybe too good a time, perhaps, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 8 (21:46):
Maybe That's what I don't know.
Speaker 9 (21:48):
You know, everything must change, winter turns the spring. Everybody's
a milk carton. We all have an expiration date.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
Some milk garden.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
I'm interested in New Mexico because I sat with Bronco
Mendenhall over the summer and it was like sitting with.
Speaker 8 (22:06):
Aristotle or something.
Speaker 9 (22:08):
Not very football coachie, but very interesting and a guy
who's been at BYU and obviously at Virginia and now
at New Mexico, which is kind of like a last
chance you situation, and it has been for a little bit.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Of a while, and Rocky Long.
Speaker 9 (22:27):
Really actually made New Mexico football relevant. Rocky Long, Yeah,
that extra the extra safety, that wacky defense that they ran,
and then they brought in a guy that ran it
under him in Danny Rodriguez, and it just didn't work out.
Speaker 8 (22:48):
So now they got Bronco.
Speaker 9 (22:49):
So I am interested in that game actually because I
sat with Bronco and they said they're going to be a.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Lot better SMU. Nevada.
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Okay, I'm interested in Nevada because they hired, uh, they
hired a coach from Texas, the defensive coordinator at Texas.
His name is Choate yeah, and uh I was. I
sat with him too, and I was impressed with him.
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Uh do you know where he was born?
Speaker 8 (23:19):
Choate? Yeah, Dublin, Clumbus, Ohio.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Baby Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
What's the connection?
Speaker 5 (23:28):
That's where I was born. I born the same hospital.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Wow, she about that.
Speaker 9 (23:34):
My wife and I were born in the same hospital
about a month apart.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
What's the chances of that night didn't mean till college?
Speaker 4 (23:42):
That's pretty crazy. Her dad, you know, in the little
baby room.
Speaker 8 (23:46):
Well maybe, yeah, Well I don't know. I wasn't there
for a month.
Speaker 9 (23:49):
Jeez, Brady, It's not like I was a kid with
a big tube stuck up his note.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Maybe she was still there waiting on you.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
Maybe this is like one of those those rom columns
we could come up with a script for is.
Speaker 8 (24:00):
San Pedro, California.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Your dad was in the navy. That's all okay?
Speaker 9 (24:04):
But yeah, you're right, you know, maybe they took me
back for jaundice or something like. Oh but yes, I
am interested in the back as well.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
And this kid looks like a minion. We get him
another two.
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Number. They named their quarterback.
Speaker 8 (24:25):
Long Yeah Miller Moss.
Speaker 4 (24:26):
How you feel about oh yeah, how you feel about
this team.
Speaker 8 (24:29):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 9 (24:31):
I don't know, but Miller Moss was kind of the
guy that was going to get the job.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Anyway.
Speaker 9 (24:35):
They brought in a guy named Jaden Mayava from UNLV, Yeah,
who started most of his freshman year and led one
of the great UNLV seasons at least in recent memory,
like twenty thirty years, and then he took money to
be a backup at SC. Miller Moss had a great
(24:55):
performance in the Holiday Bowl against Louisville. Yeah, without without
Kayleb Williams just running around like a chicken with his
head cut off, the offense kind of ran on time
and it seemed like a real breath of fresh air
for the team. I don't know how that translates to
Lincoln Riley Collin plays on time all year in twenty
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twenty four without more of a freelance style quarterback.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Spectacular but freelance.
Speaker 9 (25:23):
And USC's got their defensive problems, they had their identity problems.
But it's got to be remembered that USC went seven
and seven in Kayleb Williams last fourteen games, and we're
just we're talking about one of the great quarterback prospects
in a long time consensus number one pick, and they
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were five hundred. Not in the big, tough, angry big ten.
That's going to knock the hair off their puzzo, but
that's right. But in the Pac twelve, damn they were
seven and seven and there's a loss to tu Lane
in there.
Speaker 8 (26:01):
So if Caleb Williams can't lead you.
Speaker 9 (26:03):
Under Lincoln Riley to victory consistently, what can Miller Moss do?
Maybe he can do more, I don't know. Maybe the
new defensive identity of USC's football team, at least with
the coaching staff they hired and Doug Belk and Matt
Enttz and Danton Lynn the coordinator, maybe they can do
a lot better job.
Speaker 8 (26:23):
But I don't.
Speaker 9 (26:25):
I have absolutely no idea what Lincoln Riley is going
to look like without Caleb Williams on the West coast
and what his team will be like without his air
raid defensive staff that he brought in for the last three.
Speaker 8 (26:42):
Years or two years.
Speaker 9 (26:44):
So that part of it, that part of it is
a real mystery. They play Utah State in there early,
but they have to go to this LSU game, and
some LSU media thing reached out to me this week
and was like, you know, can we get a comment
about these two great pros taking on each other? And
I was like, yeah, it's great to see LSU playing
(27:06):
a game against anybody west of the mississip No, right,
but that's just west of the When was the last
time LSU played anybody west of the Mississippi?
Speaker 8 (27:18):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
If that's if that's all you're capping it off.
Speaker 9 (27:20):
I mean, no, no, I'm just saying it doesn't happen
much to see a great program like that out here.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
They just don't do it.
Speaker 9 (27:26):
I remember Georgia came out when they had Matt Stafford,
for God's sakes, to play against Arizona.
Speaker 8 (27:31):
State, and it's a big deal.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
So for those of us it's always don't get all
east coast in and get your blood up, Brady. I'm
just saying it's a big deal when they come west
to the Mississippi. Awkward is that USC spent the whole
offseason trying to get out of the game. And that's
a Fox versus.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
ESPN kind of thing.
Speaker 9 (27:50):
But I mean, what's LSU going to be like, They'll
they'll be without their quarterback that ran around and did
everything for them for the last couple of years, Ryan
Kelly will be with his family.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Hey, ain't done winning yet?
Speaker 8 (28:02):
You mean the commodore Colonel Kelly.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
Yes, I was then family in the Second Manassas when
we took Bull Run.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
We ain't done winning yet.
Speaker 8 (28:18):
I look forward to seeing what they're going to be like.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
But I have no real prediction other than you know,
eight wins is a good season.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
I guess the main event for LSU or Southern col.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
For Southern Col, I don't think much about Baton Rouge.
I work at Fox Damn.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Other than Commodore Kelly.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
By the way, Patrick, it took me like.
Speaker 9 (28:42):
Six months to be like, really, that kid in Arizona
State's gonna win the Heisman?
Speaker 8 (28:45):
Alright, I guess I'll.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Look uh So. The main event for week zero is
the Hawaii Rainbow Warriors hosting Powerhouse Delaware State, and Hawaii's
a thirty nine point favorite.
Speaker 8 (28:57):
Dude, I like Hawaii to take it to UCLA week one.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Yes, game under their belt? Why not?
Speaker 9 (29:03):
Timmy Chang, Ladies and gentlemen, double fisting tall boys?
Speaker 8 (29:07):
Look out.
Speaker 9 (29:07):
Let me tell you about my conversation with Timmy Chang
in Vegas. The Hawaii head coach, I said, coach, tell me,
do you get the support that you need from the
school and the community, And he said frankly, Petros, no,
we don't.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
I mean, what gave it away that they tore the
stadium down.
Speaker 9 (29:33):
I mean it fits like three thousand people. Delaware State
is not the Blue Hens, though, Delaware is the Blue Hens.
And well LeVar knows all about it because that's his territory. Flacco, right,
was a blue hand and rich, Yes, what's Delaware State?
Speaker 2 (30:01):
I'm looking at the hornets, the Delaware State hornets.
Speaker 8 (30:06):
Like Sack State.
Speaker 4 (30:07):
All right, Yeah, you don't mess with that.
Speaker 8 (30:10):
No, nobody wants to get stung by a hornet on
the balls.
Speaker 9 (30:13):
So you know they can keep stinging you too, yeah,
like not like a bee, like they die.
Speaker 5 (30:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Yeah, they have the blue stinger, all right.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
Yeah, it stays hard and fresh.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Damn right.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (30:28):
All right.
Speaker 9 (30:29):
So I don't know what LSU is going to be like,
I'm vaguely familiar with what USC will be.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Like.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Can I ask you general question, Petros?
Speaker 8 (30:37):
I mean that's why I'm here.
Speaker 6 (30:39):
Well, I'm just saying, like, in regards to preseason rankings,
do you feel like they're necessary?
Speaker 4 (30:45):
No?
Speaker 5 (30:45):
Do you are you a fan of it, are you not.
Speaker 8 (30:47):
I think we talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 9 (30:49):
They hurt teams that are not ranked that end up
being great, right, You end up having to climb and
climb and climb, and people forget about you, and it
takes months and months to be legitimate. Now in the
current model, with all these playoff teams, I guess it
doesn't really matter. And even with TCU a few years back,
(31:11):
with only a fourteen playoff, it didn't really matter, right,
They kept winning week after week until somebody woke up
and paid attention and everybody was like, oh my god,
TCU's going to go to the playoff, and they did
so and they won a game. So yeah, I guess
it doesn't hurt you as bad as you think, but
it just media wise, it confuses people because perennially every
(31:37):
year there's two or three teams in the top ten
that finish unranked, like USC last year with the greatest
quarterback on the history of the game who started every game,
and they still finished the season on rank. So that
part of it bothers me a little bit, but I'm
way past You have to.
Speaker 8 (31:55):
Have the little number next to the logo to watch
the game kind of thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 9 (32:00):
Yeah, that's a that's a real lazy way to watch
college football and college basketball.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
I must be a lazy mother effort. Boy. Well, I
mean I look for that number.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
But we're all conditioned for that, right, Like, that's what
we're conditioned to do. And it's wrong, I mean, but
but you always do want the best games in the rank, right.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
But I feel like that's exactly what you just said.
I feel like it tells me like if it was
a team that isn't necessarily on my radar, like, okay,
this team is ranked, like, yeah, what lost this game?
Speaker 9 (32:32):
Five star recruit thing, you know, like every five star
recruit doesn't pan out, but the more five star recruits
that you bring in, more likely it is, you pro.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
It'd be a pretty good football.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (32:45):
Well that's well, you know, but part of that is
a hype train too, you know, And that's why the
whole five star recruit thing is is fools gold. And
that's why, you know, sometimes the rankings are fools gold.
But he's still no, he went to Boise State.
Speaker 8 (32:59):
He just lost that.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
Okay, that's why he just lost the job too.
Speaker 8 (33:02):
He lost the job to a short fat guy.
Speaker 9 (33:04):
Oh Madden, Yeah, Madson Maddox Madson as some little, short
fat guy who played a little bit last year. But
I mean, that's one of those interesting things. You're talking about.
A guy who's a big recruit out of high school
and he got almost three hundred thousand dollars to never
really take a snap at SC and then he enters
the portal and because he was a five star recruited
(33:26):
se even though he didn't win a job to save
his life, even though they wanted him to beat out
Miller Moss, he was their bigger recruit, didn't win a
job to save his life. Six foot five, kind of
slow twitch. The arm didn't develop into the wild, crazy
arm talent that everybody predicted. I'm not saying he can't
be a good college quarterback or beyond, but he gets
(33:48):
paid again off that hype at Boise State, probably another
few hundred thousand dollars, and he's sitting on a pile
of cash to never play and get beat out twice
at least so far. So that's modern college football. And
I guess that's a way to ride the rankings and
get paid without ever actually proving it. But the teams
(34:08):
have to prove it, LeVar, They're going to have to play, yeah,
even if Malachi doesn't.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Petros, do you know your schedule for calling games yet
or how I have a week one? Okay? What are
we looking at?
Speaker 9 (34:21):
I got Wyoming, which who I like, and Arizona Boy
Arizona State, who's picked to be last in the Big twelve.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I was just gonna ask you, how do you think
they'll be this year?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
How will they find? Well?
Speaker 8 (34:32):
I looked at it.
Speaker 9 (34:33):
I mean I did a couple of their games early
last year, and they got beat in a They got
beat in a tussle with Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State ended
up being really good or a lot better than we thought.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
At least under Mike Dundy.
Speaker 8 (34:47):
And then they got ass handed to.
Speaker 9 (34:50):
Them by Fresno State, who was much more complete top
to bottom football team. They were devastated up front and
a lot of problems. They certainly look like a much
deeper team. They brought in the Michigan State quarterback transfer
Sam Levitt, who.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
I believe is going to be their starter.
Speaker 9 (35:11):
So Arizona State, I mean, there's be very hard to
say they're not going to be improved, but Wyoming's pretty
tough on all levels, top to bottom with that North
Dakota state style pedigree that Craig Bowl left for Jay Savel.
Speaker 8 (35:24):
So we'll see what it's like. But anyway, I'm looking
at it.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
I'm working nice. Get him on Twitter or ex.
Speaker 8 (35:29):
But anybody cares. There's no little ranking by those teams.
Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yes, we'll be watching.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
I won't be watching.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
He is the co host of the Petro Some Money
Show on the Blowtorch A five seventy LA Sports Fox time.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
Is that state game?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I don't know?
Speaker 2 (35:47):
New and Eastern come on, Big New kickoff Baby, Yeah, Star.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
Be in Morgantown. Yeah, I will be watching. Q. I'll watch.
I always watched the Big.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
New I mean your part washing the Penn State game
two I have.
Speaker 8 (36:00):
I think I have a Little Moon in a couple
of weeks. You know what little Moon is?
Speaker 2 (36:04):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (36:05):
That's the f S one Noon game. You got Big
Moon on Fox eleven and Little Noon on.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
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Speaker 8 (36:21):
Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Are we doing? Uh? The bq N coming up here soon?
Are we doing? Are you and A you out?
Speaker 3 (36:31):
No?
Speaker 4 (36:31):
We can do BQN. I mean I would like to retire?
Are you in a?
Speaker 1 (36:34):
You?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
Are you? You?
Speaker 8 (36:35):
And you out?
Speaker 2 (36:36):
You want to done?
Speaker 1 (36:37):
For?
Speaker 4 (36:37):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I mean I personally would I don't know that anyone really.
You know, it's itching for our it's your sticky conversation.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Okay, Lee, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Well?
Speaker 10 (36:49):
Those are two very different segments. So would you rather
which I had a good? Would you rather did I
send it to you?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Lorena?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
What was the good?
Speaker 10 (36:57):
Would you rather have sent you yesterday?
Speaker 4 (36:59):
You didn't send much of that?
Speaker 8 (37:01):
While we're on it?
Speaker 4 (37:03):
Would you rather have two hours late or two hours early?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
That was it?
Speaker 4 (37:07):
That was it?
Speaker 10 (37:09):
Yes, I would rather be two hours early.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
That's me late.
Speaker 10 (37:14):
Not not a fan of that.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
Would you rather have fruit roll up or fruit by
the foot?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
That's a really good one. Actually, I'm gonna go roll
up because that's my time.
Speaker 5 (37:30):
It feels like that's a little more natural too.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
I know neither really are, but I feel like the
fruit roll ups felt not as bad for you I.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Used to crush?
Speaker 4 (37:39):
Is that the meat headed me? Were you? Were you
now when you guys ate them, were you the folded
up and put the whole thing in or were you
just trying to make it straight out? And I break pieces.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
I pretend like it was chaw like I put it.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
In my cheek.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
I always tore it into little stringy bits.
Speaker 10 (37:56):
And I liked it when they had the tattoos on
them too, And you tattoo your your tongue. Yeah, we
see they made it for somebody who cared.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
What it was on it. It tastes the same. What
does it matter?
Speaker 4 (38:10):
I did not know that.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
See I didn't know that either.
Speaker 10 (38:13):
See I I do disagree with you just as slightly.
I agree with that now that I know. I chose
fruit by the foot yesterday, thinking to myself, well you could.
You know, you could break half of it off and
save it for later, and it's no big deal because
it's it's the package.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
And fruit roller.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
But you never just.
Speaker 10 (38:30):
Eat a little bit. You eat the whole thing the
whole time every time. You never save it for later.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
Every single one I put the whole thing. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't save any for later. I don't
do broken pieces off like I do it. Fruit bout
of foot is the one you unroll, right, Yeah, on
the pay where you unroll it's different colors. Yeah, I
put that, I roll it back up. I unroll it
and then I roll it back up.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It's basically like it's just a tape measure of cavity.
Just shove it into your mouth and then just deal.
Speaker 4 (38:57):
With melt in your mouth.
Speaker 10 (38:59):
But the fruit is so much thicker, and therefore I
think worse for you. I think it's so much I know,
I know, I know, I know. I'm sorry, Lee, I'm
sorry too. I'm sorry everybody. But it's it's got to
be so much sugar and it sticks in your gums.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (39:19):
Man, the fruit roll ups seem like it's just all
artificial crap.
Speaker 2 (39:23):
Oh yeah, all that stuff is. But all right, so
that's the end of would you have the day?
Speaker 4 (39:32):
All right?
Speaker 2 (39:32):
So so what are we deciding on you? And you
is done? And then uh are we keeping with you?
Let's do b news every day, dude, every day every day.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
I'll basically do it with in case you missed it.
That's that's essentially what that's like.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
Okay, what if we do like rotating additions like it'll
be uh the l a news, the l D News,
and we take turns each day and we come up
with stories and we throw them an do that like
you'll get yeah lead to lap news. No, yeah, you're
not doing it LA news. I'm not going to not
(40:09):
going to all right, well we do have a little
bit of a problem.
Speaker 10 (40:15):
Eddie's got to have news.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Yeah, well, I mean Eddi's always got news. By the way, Uh, apparently,
according to John our end of puck Dot News, the
out of market package for NFL Sunday ticket is available
via the Apple Store. And yeah that's I mean, listen,
I mean red zone included. I mean, you know, just
(40:38):
a quick and easy seven and thirty nine dollars ninety
nine cents for the year. So the league told him
that the pricing isn't its business. Quote, the NFL does
not control the pricing of Sunday ticket and does not
set or receive any additional fees associated with its sale.
So apparently we got Now, if you have the YouTube
(41:01):
TV package, obviously it's not going to be that much.
But if you just go the Apple route, seven hundred
and forty dollars for the year.
Speaker 6 (41:08):
Can we philosophically talk about that statement by the NFL. Yeah,
they're the ones that accept and drive up their rights
fees to keep driving up revenue. So if the NFL
really wanted to make it more accessible for the out
of market games, they could, they would just not sell
(41:28):
the rights for as much. But the owners want the money.
The teams obviously you don't want the money. The league
wants to keep growing their bottom line their revenue. So yes,
they are in essence and control of it. Now, what
Direct TV is going to sell your apple in this case,
is going to any of these and any of the
ways you go about watching it. What they sell it
for is a byproduct of what they're paying for it
(41:49):
in the first place.
Speaker 5 (41:51):
So that is a lie by the NFL.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
But again you've got to I mean, that's that's the
cost of doing business.
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Now, this is where the NFL has gotten.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
And I think a lot of people who go to
stadiums now recognize it where some of those seats that
used to be seats that have probably been held within
your family for a long time have been at times,
you know, pushed out or you know push somewhere else in.
Speaker 5 (42:19):
The stadium for luxury surets.
Speaker 6 (42:21):
And then to keep building on that client tell of
you know, higher dollar ticket sales as opposed to the
avid fans people who have been rooting for those those
franchises for decades. I mean, that's the newer model of
what all these teams and stadiums are doing. It's unfortunate,
but that's the that's the cost of doing business.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
I mean, well, I mean, I'm a bad ask on
this because I'm a sucker. I'm going to pay whatever
they they charge for Sunday ticket.
Speaker 4 (42:53):
I mean, are you really?
Speaker 8 (42:54):
I mean, I just I'm betting on you, buddy.
Speaker 5 (42:56):
Trust me, They're betting on you and making their business own.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Because I look at it like this. I don't look
at it as the cost of you know, like whatever
it is for YouTube TV this year, which is I
don't know, three hundred eighty bucks, four hundred dollars, like say,
we'll call it four hundred dollars. I don't look at
it as a four hundred dollars purchase. I look at
it as a four hundred dollars purchase that gives me
entertainment for four or five months. So I and I
(43:21):
think that a lot of people view it as that.
That they look at it and say, listen, this is
my fun time. This is an opportunity. They'll have parties,
I'll have people over. And considering what you get, all
the games that you get for that amount of money,
I still don't think it's a bad deal. I just
but I love the NFL. I'm gonna watch it regardless,
(43:42):
and so yeah, they are betting on me as opposed
to I would wonder what the difference is if you
got it at home and just stayed at home every
week as opposed to going to a bar. What's your
minimum spending at a bar to go watch Sunday games
at the NFL? Like thirty bucks.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
It's a little different though, like you're choosing to go
out and have to pay for drinks and and all
that stuff. You know, it's different when you're in your
own home where you used to be able to have
rabbity ers and tune in and watch a game. And
I understand the landscape's changed dramatically, but I think with
everything else going on with our economy, how expensive everything
has gotten, it is a little tone deaf to then
(44:19):
roll out prices that are as expensive as they've ever
been and look, maybe they feel like they can do
it because everything costs more so.
Speaker 5 (44:26):
It's like, well, it's inflation, right, Like everything.
Speaker 6 (44:29):
Costs more, so we're gonna have to charge you as
the consumer more anyway. And then you're used to this,
so you're just gonna deal with it and you're just
gonna be Jonas and you're just gonna bend over a peril.
Speaker 8 (44:38):
And are they.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Are they still blacking out games?
Speaker 5 (44:43):
And if they do, well, that's what you're paying game on.
Speaker 6 (44:46):
Okay, you don't get back, Ye're still blackout games, but
that's what you're paying for.
Speaker 2 (44:49):
That's the out of market And that's the other part
of this too, like you can't just depend on the
primetime games to give you the goods anymore because a
lot of the primetime games suck. So you you want
to watch these out of market games because they're better matchups,
like some of the Monday Night Football games. And yeah,
Troy Aikman and Joe Buck being there have helped the presentation.
Some of those games are brutal, like and we know
(45:10):
what Thursday Night Football was, but still doesn't matter. To
Brady's point, I will be there and I will be
the recipient of whatever they decide they want to give
me every single year. It just is what it is.
Just I'm sorry, I'm a doormat and I'll continue to
come back for more. I love football, so you know,
you guys can go watch whatever you want to watch.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
I still have a gripe with the NFL about how
they control all the game footage. I mean the fact
that college can turn it around and we can be
able to like just professionally digest it as an analyst,
like between a Monday and a Tuesday, you know, and
in the NFL will take to like a Wednesday to get
the All twenty two. It is so frustrating. It doesn't
(45:54):
make any sense. You don't have as many games as
college football. You have a more legitimate set up technologically
and even for distribution. The fact that it takes that
long is just surprising and disappointing.
Speaker 5 (46:07):
To be honest, this is what it is.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
I did get a text moments ago from my brother
who owns a restaurant slash bar.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
And he said, let's get some burn ins.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
So Tyrone, said Tyrone. He said, he said that Sunday
ticket this year for his spot is ten five dollars.
Speaker 5 (46:34):
Well, like you asking him what it was last year.
Speaker 2 (46:37):
But he's listening. He'll probably respond at some point.
Speaker 6 (46:40):
Well, I'm just I'm curious, Well there's a little bit
of delay, but I'm curious as to the increase for
even bar owners. And I mean, and look, the truth
is is, ever since Nielsen now has been able to
rate bars and hotels and these common areas and places
that weren't initially a part of the rating service.
Speaker 5 (46:58):
At least that was what was stated.
Speaker 6 (47:01):
It's it's allowed the NFL to kind of keep pushing
these prices up because they're saying, this is the impact like.
Speaker 5 (47:08):
That we've had on your economy and your business.
Speaker 6 (47:10):
Like to your point, Jonas, that's what they're preaching everyone
is if you're.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
A bar and you don't have access.
Speaker 6 (47:16):
To all these you know games, and you don't want
to pay this price, so be it. But you're going
to see a return on your investment if you do
buyer package, if you do buy all these.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
Games up from ninety two hundred last year, so went
out a little over thirteen hundred dollars.
Speaker 4 (47:30):
That's a hot markup, but that's that's a biggin with Yeah, So.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
He said, it's five hundred and eighty five dollars every
Sunday this year. So that's the man. But they kind
of got everybody by the balls because it's, you know,
the most popular thing going. So, uh, away we go.
Speaker 4 (47:47):
And you said, this bubble has bursted.
Speaker 5 (47:49):
Explain I mean me, no, no, no, he was talking
about the notes.
Speaker 6 (47:57):
I think we're getting to the point where for some consumers,
the bubbles bursted.
Speaker 5 (48:01):
You're gonna price out some people and they're.
Speaker 6 (48:03):
Just not gonna be able to pay the package that
maybe they used to for some of the stuff that's
out there.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (48:08):
I mean that's where I think.
Speaker 6 (48:09):
I think we're getting to that point where there's certain
consumers that are just gonna be out and they're gonna
try to consume however they can, but they're not gonna
pay those prices.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah,
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