August 23, 2024 • 52 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Howie Roseman trades for a division rival wide receiver. A pair of record breaking extensions in the NFL. Miami of Ohio’s Chuck Martin calls out Alabama for “stealing” their kicker and Tua tells his brother that the Tagovailoa’s are a ‘Bama family.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrings rating win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I would also like to point this out just to
get ahead of this before anybody else wants to attempt
to go there this weekend for you candy asses that
are going to diminish the fact that we've got Week
zero football and it's like less than Week one football
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Screw you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Go do what nerds do and leave real sports and
real football to the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Here we decide what's real football. Yeah, we are such
a statement right there. Sick of this man?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Poor is if you notice what the NFL has kind
of done.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
The NFL is even starting to kind of encroach on
the college football schedule and trying to make sure they know, like, hey,
where we're the big brother here. Okay, you do what
we say to do. So I would not be shocked
if Week zero doesn't become Week one. Yeah, as things
continue on, like, I think that's where it's all going.
And so if you're not used to it, you better
(01:09):
get used to it because some of your the best
teams are gonna be playing their Week one matchup in
a week zero, It's just gonna become the new week
one in essence.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I mean, some would argue the fact Hawaii's playing is
the best teams, like one of the best teams.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I don't know that anyone would argue that, but I
do appreciate that Hawaii's playing a week zero.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Now about it?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Are you gonna get that in at eleven fifty nine
pm Eastern time? Are you gonna watch opening kickoff for
Hawaii coming up tomorrow night into Sunday morning, Braden Quinn
or what.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I'm sure gonna try. Yeah, I'm sure gonna try.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's gonna be fun. Man. Well, here's what else is fun.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We've got moving and shaking in the NFL, and the
Washington Commandos takes center stage.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Why would they do this?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
John Dotson A we are alum? Yeah, man up and
vanish like a fart in the wind. He and a
fifth round pick go to the Eagles for a third
round pick and two seventh round picks in the twenty
twenty five draft. So Philly gets a wide receiver three
he'll go along with AJ Brown and DeVante Smith.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
After.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, Dotson had a little bit of a step
back last year. I don't know if that's on him
necessarily as opposed to whatever the hell else was going
on there in Washington, But nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Clearly they weren't impressed. Condition that was not impressed. Trade
him inside the division?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I mean he does? Let him go inside the division
that you have? I mean, I don't know they made
it a trend because there was another Penn Stater that
was inside the division that ended up in Philly as well. Yeah,
I don't know. You know, one man's treasure or one
man's trash is another man's treasure. Oh he's not trash, damn.
I mean to let him go like that, they must
(02:48):
not have. They must not think too highly of him. Guy.
You know, maybe I think trash at all.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I I sure do. I think he really rounds out
their wide receiver group. And I think what's more interesting is,
you know, they had a couple of draft picks this year,
granted in the fifth and sixth round. I know sometimes
we say that, you know, we act like, you know,
you know, they should be able to those guys should
be able to make the roster. But the reality is
they've they've got some draft picks, some guys who they
(03:16):
they took in some spots and I thought, you know,
Johnny Wilson, who's gigantic. Here's a big body target kid
out of Florida State. I thought he would be a
guy that might make the roster.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I don't know. Now, you got Anniah.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Smith, who was extremely productive during his time at Texas
and m I really liked him coming out of college.
He was a fifth round pick. And then you've got
guys like Paris Campbell. He's a veteran John Roster who
was trying to make a comeback. Really interesting story, but
remember he used to have the fastest forty yard dash time.
And if you think about it, like those four guys,
amongst probably three others that are on the roster, they're
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fighting for two spots. Like there's no guarantee past five
roster spots at the active roster for the wide receiver position,
because when you trade for Dotson like that, like he's
on it.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And obviously you have Demante Smith and aj Brown.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
So this is the time of year where you see
something like that happen at the end of preseason and
you go ooh, they It's not so much that Washington
didn't even like what they saw in dots and May
maybe they didn't, you know, May maybe they said, he's
probably not gonna make our roster.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's not gonna be a big part of the plan.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But Philly's looking at what they have and they're saying
the same thing about their guys and so like when
they're bringing dots and they're like, no, no, no, we've played
against this guy.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
We think we can make him special.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
So once again, I feel like Howie Roseman man puts
together a roster unlike any other. And I can kind
of understand why the media or the fans there in Philly,
you know, could look at Jalen Hurts and they had
to have huge expectations because who else has this like
(04:55):
bounty of riches to throw to hand off to to
protect him and then a defense that should be improved,
Like it's it's just rare to.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Find that consistently NFL. But he's had that. It's been
the starter.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, Philly is uh you want to talk about going
all in? I mean they have a basically an all
star right roster, right, I mean that could that could
be a team that's full of Pro Bowlers, like full
of them, and and that's man, I'll tell you what
(05:31):
for for anyone to think that it was a runaway
for Dallas to win the NFC East this year? This season,
which I think Dallas will be good, they will be
formidable and probably I don't I don't know what the
odds makers say, but they're probably the ones that were
the odds on favorite to win the East. I think
(05:52):
I think Philly's going to be a problem, man, I mean,
how are they not? If Jalen Hurts is healthy and
I'm not sure how how unhealthy he was last season.
I think that played a major part and why he
wasn't as effective as he could have been last season.
But if he can be, you know, maintain his health
(06:14):
this year, Philly is going to be I mean, they
might be right back in it and right back in
the super Bowl. It could be another rematch of I
thought thought it might have been last year, could be
this year whereas the Eagles and uh and what the
Chiefs that end up back in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That wouldn't be bad at it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Let me throw a possibility you guys from the Washington standpoint. Yeah,
I mean, this does open up the potential.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Of maybe Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm just listen, he and Jade Daniels have a close relationship.
He was on the list of teams that Brandon Ayuk
would have been interested in. You've got Adam Peters there
in Washington who spent years in San Francis us each other. No,
I'm just saying, like there is it does feel like
this would open up the potential for that to happen,
(07:09):
and maybe this is this is something that could be
lining up here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They didn't get better. I mean, I like, I like
Luke McCaffrey, but kind of a relatively unknown.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah of top Brady, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Mean, but he comes from great stock. I mean, you can't.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What's that supposed to me? We got all of a
sudden put an asterisk next to it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What is the what is the well poisoned for us?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What's going on you?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
J Brady? Brady's okay, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
We got Tyrone's in our family.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that's true. And Mondevus Angoine de Mele. Yeah, yeah,
that's true. That's true. I can't I can't argue you there. Well,
back to my original point, what you got Diami Brown?
Like he's a little guy, maybe like a slat guy.
You know, I don't know. They didn't get better by
(07:59):
making that move. So so to say what you just said,
although I'll say it seems late in the game, I
wouldn't be met or shocked or surprised if they made
a play for for our yuk. I would not mean
because there is the affinity for one another, back to
to the A s U days, there's a familiarity between them.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Did we lose that drop that we used to play?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We don't have that anyone.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What do you mean the uh oh that guy that's
still currently with the.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
One you.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, uh, you know, shift turnover, you know what happens.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But I mean that turns it out? Doesn't it immediately?
Doesn't it immediately turn Uh? Doesn't that immediately turn into
one of the most potentially formidable receiving tandems in the
league if they get it? Used to go with with
(09:06):
with McLaurin.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
McLaurin, Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Be up there.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's still it's still not it's still not Philly with
Dotson and A. J. Brown and Dante Smith. But but
that's a lot. That's just a lot. And they got
a tight end. That's a lot, man.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But I'm just saying, you're still looking at one of
that that turns into a very very dynamic duo of
of receivers if they were able to pull that off,
because they did not make their their team better by
letting Johang go, because that would have been your one
two that's your one two punch. So if you're letting
him go and you did get a little bit of
(09:45):
draft capital, a little bit, I mean, what what do
you say, two third rounders?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's a third to fifth or something third.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, we've got a third round pick and two seventh
round picks, so basically a third round pick and two
basically a third round pick, two pennies you would find
in a fountain outside of car wash.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Do they have do they have the space? Do they
have the cap space to give a YUK? Because if
there's a team that would be willing to do it,
even with this new ownership group, that I mean, that
would be the team to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Off the top of my head, I think they're top
three in cap space. I think I remember seeing that.
I think it was them in Chicago and and one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So they could do it.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That was interesting to start events.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I think I saw that recently.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
They're fourth the fourth at San Francisco, New England, Detroit.
So none of the teams that you mentioned besides Washington,
I'll tell you yes, as of right now.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah. Second, let me let me look that up. I'll
get on this right here. It makes a ton of sense.
I mean it would be. It would be a blockbuster
move and a good one, the right one. If that's
why they blew you know, docs and out, that would
make a lot of sense. Yeah, as it stands right now,
(11:09):
it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
What doesn't make a lot of sense is if you
do have forty nine million in cap space, if you
are the San Francisco forty.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Nine ers, and that is the most as.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Of right now heading into twenty twenty four, why they
wouldn't do the deal? Like, I mean, I know you're
gonna have to sign perty at some point in the future,
but I mean, you've got forty nine to work.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
With this year. What are we doing? I hope they
pulled that off for the fans. Shouts up to the fans, Man,
shuts up to the commanders. Fans, Dope, fans. They have endured. Boy, but.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh, breaking news from Fox Sports. I can confirm Niners
Patriots Lions and Washington Commandos as the top for with
the available salary cap space.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I just want to get that out there, guys, I
thought we had called it.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What's that drop?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Just for that, I just want to let you know
I was on it.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And by the way, the Bears are middle of the pack.
They're actually sixteenth.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's first cap space.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know, back in back in the dub about two
months ago, they were near the top.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So yeah, but before the off season started, all that changed.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Listen, it's not official until I was able to listen
lists of breaking news and so I was able to confirm.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I thought Eddie Eddie was coming in with Washington Commanders.
I mean, listen, have agreed to a deal in principle?
What did San Francis go for? Jonas?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That was a misuse of the breaking news.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
People were waiting to see what that.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Let's be honestation.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The only breaking news that we've gotten while doing a
show together is that OJ died.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Okay, that was it?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like that? Like, that's the luck this show has. O. J.
Simpson dies and uh, we had to you know, break
in and have that conversation about it and then Joel
played a fart drop on the air that was so
grotesque my brother texted.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Me and said it was the worst one ever.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He said he was walking through home depot and he
was laughing so hard that people thought he was weird
because he was listening on his AirPod. He was so
inappropriate soun oj dies. People are giving awkward eulogies on
sports radio and TV, and we're playing fart drops on
(13:32):
the air while filling in for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It was the worst funniest one ever. At the same.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The slappies all the way through.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I wish we'd I wish we had it still. I mean,
maybe it doesn't hit the same way because now we
would be expecting it, but the the unexpected hit and
the sound of how wet.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'll tell you I know which show was because I
found the link. Can send it to lead you guys
want to play it when we come back, like just
a little just.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Got to hit us with it when we don't know though.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Like.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
That sounds like a duck.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
That sounds like a wet ass part. Somebody had a
whole lot of gas in.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Them, a league a wipe.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So why would that be in our system?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
The best one ever?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And what's the title of that OJ's eulogy? Like, what's
the title?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Fart?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay, very good?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Oh no, it's just adults.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Adults here, awful, awful thing you just said.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh it made its debut after O J died. I
didn't make that up like that happened on the air.
Oh my god, why don't you guys grow up?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Can we do a professional broadcast here? Christ's sake?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You got something wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Man? Me?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, man, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well listen. I do know this. This is not wrong
because it is. It is so good though. It is
a football Friday. I know that, an actual football Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Say all right, yeah, I'm not sure what Yeah, I
don't want to open them out. Yeah yeah, Friday. We
got a part that Friday. We got the parts out. Yeah,
come on, football chuckle, I got my stop school football football.
(16:01):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Let's come on, all right, let's let's come come on now,
let's do it, right, come on, Eddie Garc you come on,
let's do it.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Briday night is a football Briday, Football Briday.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Do it?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You like they're emptying the Fuji, like we.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Gotta start dipping and dodging and bobbing and weep and
like something flying at you.
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Speaker 2 (17:29):
So we did have a little bit of history in
the NFL. Creed Humphrey the Center for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It's pretty dope name. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Now the highest paid center in NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
History can you take me high, which I'm saying it to.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It's what no one? What is this?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
What the hell's going on on?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What was that? Was that? What was that?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Lee? What happened there? We got to we got aliens
in the studio.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
What happened? It's good? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, I was looking for some Judo sound.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Hey, Lee, be like Kirk Farens.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
When you mess up, just own it, Okay, own it,
take the punishment and forward.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, my bat, it's all good.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
I was watching some guy demolished. I mentioned some guy
demolish your TV. It was kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I think we, uh, well, I think we you know,
we're probably trying to effort the creed song that Brady
was singing and.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Somehow high paid center ass the streams.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Four year, seventy two million, fifty million dollars in guarantees.
Uh and so congratulations, which I thought it was kind
of interesting they would make this move and they would
discuss it after they got pistol whipped by the Bears
last night and that two season Donnie Brooke at Arrowhead
just wondering, wondering why that, why the moon news.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Would do you think that's maybe foreshadowing things to come right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I mean, listen, if you go win, if you
can go undefeated in the preseason generally speaking, you know,
maybe there is something to people betting the under like
they are on the Bears wind total this year.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know, it seems like it could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
But Creed Humphrey, Hey, another example, Kansas City paying their
own Hey, Jerry Jones, what are you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Like they all the key ingredients in Kansas City are
locked up and ready to go, and they get this
stuff done and there's no smoke and no drama and
nothing else attached to it. Same thing for aj Terrell
for the Falcons. He got a brand new deal for Atlanta.
Like everybody just getting this stuff done and Jerry's sitting
around holding his.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
You know what going on. I didn't mean sugar shaker.
That came out wrong. That was that was a slip,
my bet damn you know, like salt on his food
from from Hard Knocks. Yeah, I didn't mean sugar shaker.
That's all good.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So congratulations Creed Humphrey gets that deal done for the Camps.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Jeeves, you said a J. Tarrell earlier.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I mean, it's just a lot of deals getting done.
You wonder when, uh, when your guy Brennan and I
you're just gonna get his deal done? You know why
is he my guy?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's a Levar's guy Arizona State?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know well, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Do you have a connection Arizona State. I mean AP's
not there anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, I mean no, it's a nice place though, Yeah
it is.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Oh I really didn't. I was thinking I'm really gonna
do that. Yeah, I was. I was thinking AP.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But does the fact that Ajterrell got his deal done,
does that maybe not leave some cash line around for
Matthew Judon to get his done in Atlanta? Is there
the potential that this could have an effect on him
wanting to get that long term deal done that he
was working well from the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I don't, no disrespect. I don't think that's the most
interesting question about it. What's interesting is the Bears. Your
Bears were also in on this. But Ryan Pole's caveat
to make the deal happen was that Judon had to
agree to a new deal. They had to have a
new deal in place. I mean that the trade compensation
was the exact same supposedly, but it came down to
(21:28):
Judon having a new deal in place, which about nineteen
almost twenty million in cap space for the Bears right now.
You would have thought that would have worked and that
would have made sense. I mean, that's what Judon's looking for.
So the fact that he chose to go I guess
if all things were equal and they had the choice
to Atlanta instead, kind of interesting to not get that
(21:49):
long term deal done. Maybe they'll they're looking on the
upside of next year and being able to really capitalize
after a good year in Atlanta. But Chicago was looking
at it already, you know, signing him to deal, not
putting themselves in the Hassan Reddick New York Jets situation
that we're seeing right now.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That that's the part that I find confusing. So he
wanted a new deal in New England or else he
would have stayed there. That didn't happen. So he had
an opportunity where there was a guarantee he was going
to get a new deal in one place and no
guarantee in the other, and he took the one in
which the deal wasn't guaranteed, right, Like, that's the part
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Now we're talking. Now we're into the interesting part of
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So can you can you clear it up?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I mean, is he just thinking that Atlanta's going to
give him an opportunity to be more productive?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well, we don't know what the offer was from the
Bears as far as you know, whatever extension they were
offering him. If you look at what the Falcons just did,
I believe they just gave aj Torell the highest highest
amount of guarantees.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
For a cornerback at least on a four year deal
or whatever the number is.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
And you've looked at our their blank giving a hundred
million to Kirk Cousins. You know this organization has a
ton of money. So if he's going there and looking
at trying to not even reset the market, but but
at least be up there with some of the top
of the game a year from now.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
If he does what he's capable of doing when healthy.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
As LeVar talked about the other week, I think he
knows that, like they're will be able to kind of break.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
The bank for him.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, and he's gonna be a guy I think they
lean on heavily to be the guy on the outside too.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
In Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
So if you're looking at Chicago, you're a nice book
end in Montes sweat, but you know, sweats there he's
getting paid. You might not be making more than him.
So there's all those kind of sorts of thoughts and considerations.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I think, hmm. I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's a little strange, you know. I mean, so basically,
he chose Ryan Pace over Ryan Poles is really what
he did.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So he tried to create which would make him on
the straight side of the arrow.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
What's what's even more interesting than me is he is
going to make six point five million this year.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That's what he's going to make.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Where I have no idea what Chicago offered him, but
let's just say it was probably north of twenty an
for an edge player in today's game, had to have been, had.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
To have been well, because Daniel Hunter got what two
year million dollar deal?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
How do we make sense of that? Though? Is it
because he likes Atlanta?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I mean, you mention that that, which I mean, Look,
I'm preferential to Chicago, all right. It's got a dear
place to my heart. It always will it always. I
love Chicago. Atlanta's a great place too, though, But I
just I would be more all about Chicago if it
was me, given you know, my time there and going
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to college, being close proximity and be able to go
in and have fun in Chicago. Just seeing that place
in the summertime too, in the fall, it's just Chicago.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Man, it's it's it's got me. Yeah. Wow, it's a
great spot.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, it's weird. I I I've come to this conclusion
of the past.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Like two year ago tourism hit up two pros on
a cup of Joe heard.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Hey, listen, there's a we got a big noon game
coming up Ohio State Northwestern at Wrigley Field in Chicago
that we got to get there. There's there's a Draft
Kings sports book right at Wrigley Field. There's a Graduate
Hotels in Evanston close.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Gosh, what it sound like you would you like the
sposials today? There's that this is a promance. Okay, how
you says backwards bounds? That's that I mean, that's an
easy one. That is very true, by the way.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, so he chose Atlanta over Chicago. Disrespectful, I mean,
little insult?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is that I mean? Is that it's clear? I don't know,
is it shade I'm not high on Chicago. I'm really not.
They got to prove they're not Chicago before I think
they're the Chicago that everybody, a lot of people think
they're going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Not even Gibson's not even like that little stretch they
call the Biagra Triangle there.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
The little stretch, yeah, corridor it is.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Although some of the places have left. You can't make
it anymore. That that that hurt, that hurt deeply. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I tell you the time I asked my my in
laws there their blessing to propose to my wife. No,
I did it at Tavern Rush because I again had
many great memories there.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
We had a great table on the second.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Floor like looking out onto kind of like the open
little patio park area there, and uh, you know, I ordered.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
You know, bottle of champagne and I'm trying to like
do it up big, right.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I put my in laws from Boston up in this hotel,
nice hotel, and uh, I think they have on uh
it's business cash, you know, business Okay, Yeah, yeah, So
I you know, I tell them the plans and all that,
and you know, they're all excited and we're kind of
toasting and next thing, I know, I hear all this
hooting and hollering, and I happened to glance over behind
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me down like back on the street, and there's like
two thousand.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Nude cyclists coming by who were.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Protesting for more bike lanes chocko, and I like, I'm like,
oh my.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
God, oh my gosh, oh man, and.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I've kind of put my head down.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
And there was a bachelorette party at a bigger table,
probably like two o'clock from where I was sitting, and
they all like, oh, do you mind if we come
by every we got to take picture of this. I'm
like yeah, sure. I was like so, so this moment
that was like I'm trying to encapsulate, you know, is
as put, one of those moments in completely overtaken by
two thousand nude cyclists right there in the Viager triangle.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
But it could have made it. It could have made
it more magical, you know in the end. I mean,
because if it had just went just straight normal, then
it's like it's normal story of how you you know, proposed.
But see this, this one made it super memorable. All
those it definitely meant it.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I mean, it would have been a memory, but just
one of like That was pretty much it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But now if I like, if I say something to.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
My father and Laura were like, yep, you know you
kind of justew Everyone jokes about it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Now, So now did you still went through with it?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You still was at the moment or.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I would have gotten down. I already did it.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
It was like it was literally like we we had
already know my wife wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
It's just her parents.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It was just her parents. So I already asking for
the blessing.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, we would already. We were already toasted, like we
already had this champagne all that. We were good. We
were celebrating kind of. But it was like within that minute.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
After our glasses touched to have a sip of champagne,
there is an entire protest, all sorts of just winers
flopping around.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh yeah, you know, I mean, what's going through your mind?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
That was the odd thing was there was more. It
was more dudes than it was gals.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
But I just didn't know you were there this week?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
What are you thinking about when you say, you know what,
I'm walking out the door. There's my bicycle. I'm getting
on my bicycle. Okay, now I'm pedaling like people are
looking at me like you gotta be a different Like
that's that's got to be even more like kind of
like maybe I don't know, maybe they felt free, but
I mean, what would you rather be naked in a
(29:25):
strip joint or going through streets of a major sit
strip joint? Right, it's more contained.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Talk about for the guy or the girl, either one,
either one.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I mean, I'm just sad, don't you got You gotta
be in a mindset, like a frame of mind to
be protest.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Now they're fired up.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Dang, I mean you got, you know, because you got
to generate power to keep the bicycle on two wheels
and maintain the balances. What's potholes and cracks in the
road June or something like that.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Summertime was ice and warm out. Yeah it wasn't. Yeah,
there wasn't any concern there.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Jonas was just making sure I know what you're worried about.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Get the month straight, you know. So it wasn't drinking
last time Saturday.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Last time I was at tavern on Rush, I was mutilated.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Why did they call it Viagara Square.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Because there's Gibson's uh Rush the club. Yeah, but double
like that's not a part of it. It's like the
three It was the three main restaurants that were right.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There, what.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Roast Carmines. There was Gibson's, Yeah, Hugo's frog Bar, and
then you had there was the Hunt Club up there.
Then you had Level was across the street, and then
if you just took a couple of lufts, you ended
up on Division Street.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And I don't know what all of this means though,
that's so in essence, there was three main restaurants between
Gibson this, Tavron Rush and and and Carmons.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
And so those three kind of made the triangle, if
you will, I believe, I mean frog.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Bars right there too.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But but why viagra.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Because there happens to be a bunch of older gentlemen
who might be on viagra, okay, are looking for companionship.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And there's a lot a lot to find there.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
The Double that's that's the spot.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, all right place.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, you would love that place far, I'm telling you, man,
it stays up.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's like four we got oh yeah, they not care.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
We go.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We have to go. We got to go.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Just when you know you got to gots to go.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And then you stumble on over to Division Street, you
walk on peanut shells inside certain bars, and you're like, Okay,
well here we are.
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
So what's this? Somebody stole something from Penn State, like
a K pop band or some crap like that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Oh, what's the story?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Did you see this far?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I see it?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
So I believe it was on X where you can
have like the hashtag or whatever.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I'm not even sure how this works, but I.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Think the they hit singing group or Sensation K pop okay,
like stole the hashtag or stole that from I think
which Penn State traditionally uses it, but took it away.
And so now every time you see like someone put
like a hashtag we are there is like a little
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emblem with it. But I think it directs back to
K pop. What Yeah, Lee, do you have more information
on this.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Or not?
Speaker 9 (32:51):
I'm trying to figure I'm trying to find this.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I know there's a different figure it out. No, I'm
trying to find it.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
What I do know is that they do steal hashtags
a lot, Like whenever something is trending, these K pop
bands will take it and uh run with it and
just attach it to every one of their little clips.
I'm not sure which band it is.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Though, it's for sure K pop this is on it.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
But K pop is all of the music, right, so
it's all under an umbrella.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
K Pop's not an individual band, no, because.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
There's like BTS, there's those pink girls.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I don't know all their names, but like.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
So this this is stating that Penn State's hashtag we
are is now being shared with K pop group.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Yeah, with AK pop group Yeah, Like BTS stole the
hashtag BTS, which actually stands for behind the scenes, and
they were complaining that people were tagging them and it's like, no,
that wasn't your hashtag to begin with.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Wow, Well it's a it's a tremendously large community, super
super large, like over seven hundred and eighty thousand active
members of kp Alumna alumna, oh, Penn State, yeah, and
over a month millions. What anyway, Uh so maybe they
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maybe whoever is doing it is, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I have a concert in I'm looking at it right now.
If you do hashtag we are, the little goofy symbol
comes up next.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
God says we are exclamation point, Let's get the party.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Starto.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You got jacked.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That means I don't know we are Starto.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I don't know. Yeah, I'm looking forward myself. Put that
in your K pop well.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
And it first came out because there is a tweet
I believe by Penn State Football.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
And it was like wee greater than me team.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
First mentality, and then it says hashtag we are times
coach James Franklin, Jay Franklin, and then that's when like
the we are things started up and people started noticing
that this is apparently being shared with this whatever this.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Is, because now you're gonna have to do we are
penns State.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
So are you saying the name of it Raina is Starto.
That's the name of the K pop group.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
I'm not sure of this K pop band specifically. I'm
just yeah, you I thought you said that they were
called k pop and that's just.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
This is saying that it's is now being used to
promote a new release from I believe the name of
the group is Starto.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Mm hmm. That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, I mean how does that work? Can you just
share whatever you want?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
But why do they get to put the little thing
we are on it?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
It's messed up.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I assume they pay for it?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Can of something? You send it to me?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It's in the group chat bud.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Oh Okay, yeah, okay, I mean I listen.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I did see this. I did see this. Yeah, I'm
saying their backdrop it's there, it's their logo.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I mean, Raina, you probably listened to K pop? Can
you like fill us out a little bit more? What
that sounds like?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
It's funny, my brother does, I don't. I can come
back with some K pop though, if you guys.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I'd rather not curious.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Fine, okay, I mean, are you calling Penn State's song
k pop?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Is that what you're doing? Like?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Is that the Penn State fight song? You're calling that
k pop? Apparently if you go on Twitter, that's what
it's looking like.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
No, it's got jacked messed up, man.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I don't take too much offense to it. We know
what we are, we know who we are. We are
Penn State baby with a goofy yellow symbol next to it. Now,
thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
That's not the only thing that got stolen Tho Jonas.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Anybody, anybody up for a kicker theft.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I just love hearing a coach with a red ass.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
This is great, So a fun little kicker theft story
in the world of college football. Chuck Martin is the
head coach of Miami of Ohio, and apparently Graham Nicholson
is one of the best kickers in college football. Only
missed one field goal attempt last year. He was thirty
five or thirty seven on extra points. He won the
lou Gros Award. Like he's like one of the best
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in college football, the best last year of you based
it on.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Just the award alone.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Well, he was so in demand that apparently Alabama was
really interested in him. And well, Chuck Martin the head
coach of a Miami of Ohio. He was asked about
it and just wanted to make it clear what actually happened.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
All right, special teams lost your kicker, Carter. We didn't
lose him.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
He's at out, maam, we know exactly where he's at.
Like again, you mediate people, it's all pretend like no,
Alabama stole our kicker illegally. They illegally recruited, they illegally
recruit our kicker and stole them from us, and like
that's that's a fact. But that's that's cow. But we
act like it's not. We live in this la la world, like, hey,
let's not talk.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I mean, knows what's going on.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So, yeah, Alabama stole our kicker.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
A couple of a couple of other schools try to
steal them, but.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Then think, okay, what's the question to it? So he
took it so literal though where he goes. We didn't
lose them, we know exactly where he's I feel bad though.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
This is like the life of a head football coach
at the group of five level, where a guy comes in,
performs well, and he's looking at let's just call it
what it is. He's looking at getting promoted. He's looking
at going to a power for now school more than
likely someone in the SEC or Big ten. I mean,
that's that's how we're all seeing college football as this
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thing plays out, and it's it's tough not to acknowledge
that the system needs to be fixed.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
There needs to be some more, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
More guardrails, guidelines put in to help sort this whole
thing out. And it's tough because what you're seeing right
now in the college landscape is Olympic sports are being
greatly impacted by this whole you know, revenue share with
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student athletes. Now, there are Olympic sports that aren't being cut,
but they are being so underfunded by the athletics department
at some of these schools that in essence they're going
to turn into club sports. And so not to get
into like a whole big tangent of a conversation that
I don't know that we were prepared to talk about today,
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but if you look at just to go back to
the Olympic conversation, one of the reasons why the US
has performed so well is our system through the NCAA
in Olympic sports in particular, that creates this kind of
training and breeding ground for Olympic athletes.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
You know, they are able to go get their education
at the.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Same time train and you know, nowadays we don't have
to worry about receiving funding if they are one of
the best Olympic athletes and they can profit off all that.
But the point is that our institutions have provided the
foundation for a lot of the training that goes on
for our Olympic athletes, and it's helped to be able
to propel them to be able to go on and
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eventually make the Olympics and win golds and win medals
and be up there representing the United States. And that
is one of the cause and effects that I don't
know how it's going to play out, but I know this.
I know a certain school that you know some of
the ways they're doing it are you know, for example,
let's say the head coach of this random sport, whatever
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you want to call it, was making five hundred thousand.
Now that head coaching position makes seventy five thousand dollars
a year. And so not only do you save obviously
on the coaching salary, but you're essentially sending the message
that we are not going to be funding this sport
the way we used to because we can't. We're going
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to have to divert those funds to football, to probably
men's and women's basketball, and anything else that we feel
like as profitble generates revenue or can win as championships.
That's where a lot of these schools are at and
so it's unfortunate. But that's one big, big picture issue.
And then the other issue is even within football, you know,
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how do we go about allowing a team like you know,
Miami Ohio and an expanded playoff to remain competitive when
it's hard for them to even hang on any of
these talented players because they don't have the funds to
support even those revenue generating sports like football, for example.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They're going to represent jucos, and now Jucos have to
represent high school, which totally it's like letting you know,
letting dares continue to reproduce that you're losing the natural
progression and process of coming and going right if you
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really think about it. I mean from my perspective that
I could see all of the other sports. But to me,
the first thing I think about when you hear things
like this is is that you're talking about those those
those lower schools, those mid majors. Uh, they're going to
get pillaged for their players. And so that used to
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be Okay, you didn't make it at Clemson, you go backwards,
you go to a juco, you go to a jukeo.
Then you end up going to you know, it could
be a Power five school, it could be a lesser
of a school. You know, you could go to a
mid major school. And that was kind of the flow
of it. But you always had high school kids that
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were being recruited at a at a high number, at
a high rate. And now you're seeing a change in
how high school kids are getting recruited because basically schools
have to start with recruiting their own players, which is
crazy to think that that's the world we live in. Now.
You have to recruit your own players so that they
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stay and in the school that they're in currently and
not get plucked away by another school. But then you
have to look at the landscape of what are your
needs and where can you go to fill those needs
where you can get a player that can step in
right now today and be able to start for your team.
And that is not juco so much anymore. And it's
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not high schools anymore. You're recruiting other schools. Not only
not only you know, mid major schools, but you're you're
you're recruiting other Power five schools as well. You'll see
a guy leave from Alabama to go to another big
school because now I don't know if we talked about
this on this show or on up on Game. But
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the wild thing is is that you'll see a guy
that that plays for, like I said, in Alabama and
then he ends up at Clemson or he ends up
at you know, Notre Dame or Notre Dame has a
guy that ends up at you know, Georgia or whatever
it may be, right, And that's what you're talking about.
(43:49):
The dominance of Alabama was because of their depth. Right
you have you have two three guys deep that are
on your your chart, and if somebody goes down, you
have a guy that's just as good, if not better,
that's waiting in the wings to play. And in this
transfer portal and NIL playing a part in how you're
(44:12):
able to get kids through and into the transfer portal
has totally changed the way that that you can approach,
you know, having a team, a second a second string
guy who knows they could possibly go somewhere where the
need is there for that position, is looking to leave immediately.
(44:32):
You have agents. I can't believe I heard this the
other day where who was They said, we're shutting down
conversations with agents because it's time for season, said Mike.
Mike shutting we're shutting down conversations of negotiations until until
the winner or whatever it may be for negotiations, so
(44:55):
agents and all that don't reach out the fact that
this is the day and age that we're in. I
keep saying, we gotta have something that regulates and and
creates more of a structure, because I just see this thing.
It's growing so big and there's so much money at
stake that there has to be a structure that's put
in place in order for it to to not get,
(45:17):
you know, get too far out of control where it's
not controllable at at a certain point. I mean, otherwise
it's just going to continue to be the wild, wild
West and whoever can throw money at kids and throw
money at situations, which in some ways is how it
already has been for a long time. But it wasn't
so out in the open. You know, it's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
That story on the tongue of iloas that armand containing
is writing, and the excerpt that came out that that
is wild to think to his younger brother.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
At Jesus.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
So his brother was in this battle to try and
get more cash from Maryland. There was the potential he
got a one point five million dollar offer from Auburn,
and then Tua stepped in and said, no, we're an
Alabama family. You're not going to Auburn. So he took
less to go back to Maryland. And just the whole
back and forth, like the relationship with his dad is,
(46:19):
you know, just that whole story, like the fact that
his dad like just you know, outside of the nil stuff,
the fact that Tua's dad made Tua, who's a natural
right hander, learned to throw left handed just because.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Which is that which some coaches would say plays to
your detriment, and only because of how a lot of
play callers like to have everything in right handed formations
and there's more writies, so they're accustomed to that.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
So it's an adjustment for everyone.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
You know, not only the offensive line how they're blocking,
but also the receivers that spin in the ball, the
way it tails, all those things become an adjustment.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Reading the story and his brother, though, I felt bad
for him, Like to me, it looked like Nal got
in the way of everything else he should have been
focused on, and maybe was to his detriment in the long.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Run, without a doubt. I mean, and look that dynamic
plays out between brothers, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Anyway, you know, as far as Talia was always going
to be into his shadow if he stayed at Bama,
which he made that decision on the way going in.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Now you know, once you left and went to Maryland.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
That had everything to do with his relationship with Mike Loxley,
their head coach. So that's part of it too. Like
a lot of kids become, you know, wrapped up into
their relationship with the coach and I would you know,
every time, like a young person, even like parents ask,
I'm like, look, make the decision for the school, make
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the decision for like, don't make you know, or don't
sacrifice what you want most for what you want right now,
because you know, in some cases, yeah, he could have
made what one point five million, the article stayed it
from Auburn and maybe there's some other suitors as well.
But in the end he still made high six figures
from Maryland. But if that, if that's not where he
(48:09):
wants his degree from or to build a you know,
a network for the future, or he doesn't feel like
it gives him the best chance to go into the NFL,
that don't go there. You know, like a lot of
these decisions now are made purely based on the short
term of money grab and what ends up happening is
it actually hurts their ability to then get into the NFL.
(48:29):
And for what Talia was able to do with Maryland,
he provided consistency. You know, I don't know if many
people know this. I think he's the all time leading
career passer in Big Ten history, which like, how many
people know that Talia Tonguevailoa is the career all time
leading passer for the Big Ten, Which is it's crazy
to think about because I don't know that he got
(48:52):
not rewarded, but I don't think he got celebrated, no,
and and and that's that's it's surprising. But the whole
point is is he decided to stay and in the end,
you know, they provided Marilynd some stability, enough success, but ultimately,
you know, he's with the Hamilton Tiger Cats now in
the CFL. You know, he had a shot I believe
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with Arizona maybe earlier this summer, and that was kind
of it. And now he's gonna have to just kind
of work the long way to maybe get back and
then into having a shot in the NFL. So you know,
for every conversation you want to have about someone saying, hey,
don't leave money on the table, or excuse me, it's
okay to leave money on the table because you might
be able to make it up later, there's instances like
this where you're like, well, he left money on the
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table and ultimately it didn't work out. So you know,
does he does he wish he had an extra seven
hundred and six hundred thousand in his pockets.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I'm sure he does.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
So it's a complicated conversation and situation for a lot
of the student athletes. But I think even more so
that this story points out or that you kind of
brought up Jonas is the dad, like the parents' involvement.
And I can tell you, like you hear stories all
the time of parents who overstep their bounds or parents
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who are are the ones ultimately receiving a lot of
the cash that's going to the student athletes. And so
the student athletes are even receiving and they're kind of
just going wherever their parents.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Tell them to go.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
It is a crazy process right now.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I mean, it's just roll. It's just that's wild, man,
Like I can't imagine being now that I'm a father,
and I don't want to. I'm not trying to judge
him on how to raise his kids or whatever. I
just can't imagine looking at my son and the way
he Plus he's got a Hallitz on his arm, you know,
so he's good throwing right handed, and just talking about
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your kid, yeah, talking about my kid. I can't imagine
just being like, hey, Bud, you're doing great. We're gonna
go ahead and we're gonna take a belt. We're gonna
wrap that hand around your torso and you're gonna look
to throw at the other one. And that's just gonna
be the way it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Here's the thing. I'm curious to see what he looks
like throwing righty now.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I mean, that's what I'm saying. So that now I
think back when people are like, oh, look at it,
he's floating that ball up there, it's like, dude, it's
not even the right hand. Like now it makes sense,
like and and the fact that he's done what he's
done good for him. So who knows, maybes maybe his
dad's onto something. Hey, by the way, we're onto something here,
because in case you haven't noticed this.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
It's a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Here right, football Friday.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
A throw with my right hand.
Speaker 7 (51:19):
I'm left, throw with my right hand. Right, yeah, we
got right day. Come on, come on, come on, come on,
get the bell down, get the bell down. Time my
arm down, till my arm down, let me throw. I
time my own down. I'll turn my arm down. Let
me throw with my opposite hand, throw with my opposite hay, let.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Me throw with my opposite hang out are come out?
All right, all right, I gotta get Eddie. We got
to do it, Eddie. Here we go, Eddie, we gotta
do it.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
And here we go.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Right and night is a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Football Friday. Rock them, do it, scort, slam it up,
Oh my god, football prid Hey.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
You really do carry that tune like that's like we're
not much help, and you bring you bring the energy.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Brady tunes out, Brady hits Mute.
Speaker 4 (52:15):
I hate the second one. I'm sorry, I said it.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
I don't I don't like the second one. I'm not
going to participate. You guys keep trying to push the
envelope on this. I'm putting my foot down
It is the best of two pros and a couple
Joe with Lamar Arrings rating win and Jonas Knots on radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I would also like to point this out just to
get ahead of this before anybody else wants to attempt
to go there this weekend for you candy asses that
are going to diminish the fact that we've got Week
zero football and it's like less than Week one football
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Screw you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Go do what nerds do and leave real sports and
real football to the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Here we decide what's real football. Yeah, we are such
a statement right there. Sick of this man?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Poor is if you notice what the NFL has kind
of done.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
The NFL is even starting to kind of encroach on
the college football schedule and trying to make sure they know, like, hey,
where we're the big brother here. Okay, you do what
we say to do. So I would not be shocked
if Week zero doesn't become Week one. Yeah, as things
continue on, like, I think that's where it's all going.
And so if you're not used to it, you better
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get used to it because some of your the best
teams are gonna be playing their Week one matchup in
a week zero, It's just gonna become the new week
one in essence.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
I mean, some would argue the fact Hawaii's playing is
the best teams, like one of the best teams.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I don't know that anyone would argue that, but I
do appreciate that Hawaii's playing a week zero.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Now about it?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Are you gonna get that in at eleven fifty nine
pm Eastern time? Are you gonna watch opening kickoff for
Hawaii coming up tomorrow night into Sunday morning, Braden Quinn
or what.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I'm sure gonna try. Yeah, I'm sure gonna try.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's gonna be fun. Man. Well, here's what else is fun.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
We've got moving and shaking in the NFL, and the
Washington Commandos takes center stage.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Why would they do this?
Speaker 2 (01:51):
John Dotson A we are alum? Yeah, man up and
vanish like a fart in the wind. He and a
fifth round pick go to the Eagles for a third
round pick and two seventh round picks in the twenty
twenty five draft. So Philly gets a wide receiver three
he'll go along with AJ Brown and DeVante Smith.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
After.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You know, Dotson had a little bit of a step
back last year. I don't know if that's on him
necessarily as opposed to whatever the hell else was going
on there in Washington, But nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Clearly they weren't impressed. Condition that was not impressed. Trade
him inside the division?
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I mean he does? Let him go inside the division
that you have? I mean, I don't know they made
it a trend because there was another Penn Stater that
was inside the division that ended up in Philly as well. Yeah,
I don't know. You know, one man's treasure or one
man's trash is another man's treasure. Oh he's not trash, damn.
I mean to let him go like that, they must
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not have. They must not think too highly of him. Guy.
You know, maybe I think trash at all.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I I sure do. I think he really rounds out
their wide receiver group. And I think what's more interesting is,
you know, they had a couple of draft picks this year,
granted in the fifth and sixth round. I know sometimes
we say that, you know, we act like, you know,
you know, they should be able to those guys should
be able to make the roster. But the reality is
they've they've got some draft picks, some guys who they
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they took in some spots and I thought, you know,
Johnny Wilson, who's gigantic. Here's a big body target kid
out of Florida State. I thought he would be a
guy that might make the roster.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I don't know. Now, you got Anniah.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Smith, who was extremely productive during his time at Texas
and m I really liked him coming out of college.
He was a fifth round pick. And then you've got
guys like Paris Campbell. He's a veteran John Roster who
was trying to make a comeback. Really interesting story, but
remember he used to have the fastest forty yard dash time.
And if you think about it, like those four guys,
amongst probably three others that are on the roster, they're
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fighting for two spots. Like there's no guarantee past five
roster spots at the active roster for the wide receiver position,
because when you trade for Dotson like that, like he's
on it.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And obviously you have Demante Smith and aj Brown.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
So this is the time of year where you see
something like that happen at the end of preseason and
you go ooh, they It's not so much that Washington
didn't even like what they saw in dots and May
maybe they didn't, you know, May maybe they said, he's
probably not gonna make our roster.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
It's not gonna be a big part of the plan.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
But Philly's looking at what they have and they're saying
the same thing about their guys and so like when
they're bringing dots and they're like, no, no, no, we've played
against this guy.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
We think we can make him special.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
So once again, I feel like Howie Roseman man puts
together a roster unlike any other. And I can kind
of understand why the media or the fans there in Philly,
you know, could look at Jalen Hurts and they had
to have huge expectations because who else has this like
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bounty of riches to throw to hand off to to
protect him and then a defense that should be improved,
Like it's it's just rare to.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Find that consistently NFL. But he's had that. It's been
the starter.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, Philly is uh you want to talk about going
all in? I mean they have a basically an all
star right roster, right, I mean that could that could
be a team that's full of Pro Bowlers, like full
of them, and and that's man, I'll tell you what
(05:31):
for for anyone to think that it was a runaway
for Dallas to win the NFC East this year? This season,
which I think Dallas will be good, they will be
formidable and probably I don't I don't know what the
odds makers say, but they're probably the ones that were
the odds on favorite to win the East. I think
(05:52):
I think Philly's going to be a problem, man, I mean,
how are they not? If Jalen Hurts is healthy and
I'm not sure how how unhealthy he was last season.
I think that played a major part and why he
wasn't as effective as he could have been last season.
But if he can be, you know, maintain his health
(06:14):
this year, Philly is going to be I mean, they
might be right back in it and right back in
the super Bowl. It could be another rematch of I
thought thought it might have been last year, could be
this year whereas the Eagles and uh and what the
Chiefs that end up back in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
That wouldn't be bad at it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Let me throw a possibility you guys from the Washington standpoint. Yeah,
I mean, this does open up the potential.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Of maybe Brandon Ayuk.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I'm just listen, he and Jade Daniels have a close relationship.
He was on the list of teams that Brandon Ayuk
would have been interested in. You've got Adam Peters there
in Washington who spent years in San Francis us each other. No,
I'm just saying, like there is it does feel like
this would open up the potential for that to happen,
(07:09):
and maybe this is this is something that could be
lining up here.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They didn't get better. I mean, I like, I like
Luke McCaffrey, but kind of a relatively unknown.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah of top Brady, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Mean, but he comes from great stock. I mean, you can't.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
What's that supposed to me? We got all of a
sudden put an asterisk next to it.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What is the what is the well poisoned for us?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
What's going on you?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
J Brady? Brady's okay, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
We got Tyrone's in our family.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Yeah, that's true. And Mondevus Angoine de Mele. Yeah, yeah,
that's true. That's true. I can't I can't argue you there. Well,
back to my original point, what you got Diami Brown?
Like he's a little guy, maybe like a slat guy.
You know, I don't know. They didn't get better by
(07:59):
making that move. So so to say what you just said,
although I'll say it seems late in the game, I
wouldn't be met or shocked or surprised if they made
a play for for our yuk. I would not mean
because there is the affinity for one another, back to
to the A s U days, there's a familiarity between them.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Did we lose that drop that we used to play?
Speaker 3 (08:24):
We don't have that anyone.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
What do you mean the uh oh that guy that's
still currently with the.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
One you.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Like?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, uh, you know, shift turnover, you know what happens.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
But I mean that turns it out? Doesn't it immediately?
Doesn't it immediately turn Uh? Doesn't that immediately turn into
one of the most potentially formidable receiving tandems in the
league if they get it? Used to go with with
(09:06):
with McLaurin.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
McLaurin, Yeah, it would be.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Be up there.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
It's still it's still not it's still not Philly with
Dotson and A. J. Brown and Dante Smith. But but
that's a lot. That's just a lot. And they got
a tight end. That's a lot, man.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
But I'm just saying, you're still looking at one of
that that turns into a very very dynamic duo of
of receivers if they were able to pull that off,
because they did not make their their team better by
letting Johang go, because that would have been your one
two that's your one two punch. So if you're letting
him go and you did get a little bit of
(09:45):
draft capital, a little bit, I mean, what what do
you say, two third rounders?
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It's a third to fifth or something third.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Something to that effect.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, we've got a third round pick and two seventh
round picks, so basically a third round pick and two
basically a third round pick, two pennies you would find
in a fountain outside of car wash.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Do they have do they have the space? Do they
have the cap space to give a YUK? Because if
there's a team that would be willing to do it,
even with this new ownership group, that I mean, that
would be the team to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Off the top of my head, I think they're top
three in cap space. I think I remember seeing that.
I think it was them in Chicago and and one.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
So they could do it.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
That was interesting to start events.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
I think I saw that recently.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
They're fourth the fourth at San Francisco, New England, Detroit.
So none of the teams that you mentioned besides Washington,
I'll tell you yes, as of right now.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Yeah. Second, let me let me look that up. I'll
get on this right here. It makes a ton of sense.
I mean it would be. It would be a blockbuster
move and a good one, the right one. If that's
why they blew you know, docs and out, that would
make a lot of sense. Yeah, as it stands right now,
(11:09):
it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
What doesn't make a lot of sense is if you
do have forty nine million in cap space, if you
are the San Francisco forty.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
Nine ers, and that is the most as.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Of right now heading into twenty twenty four, why they
wouldn't do the deal? Like, I mean, I know you're
gonna have to sign perty at some point in the future,
but I mean, you've got forty nine to work.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
With this year. What are we doing? I hope they
pulled that off for the fans. Shouts up to the fans, Man,
shuts up to the commanders. Fans, Dope, fans. They have endured. Boy, but.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Oh, breaking news from Fox Sports. I can confirm Niners
Patriots Lions and Washington Commandos as the top for with
the available salary cap space.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I just want to get that out there, guys, I
thought we had called it.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
What's that drop?
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Just for that, I just want to let you know
I was on it.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
And by the way, the Bears are middle of the pack.
They're actually sixteenth.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
That's first cap space.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
You know, back in back in the dub about two
months ago, they were near the top.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
So yeah, but before the off season started, all that changed.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Listen, it's not official until I was able to listen
lists of breaking news and so I was able to confirm.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
I thought Eddie Eddie was coming in with Washington Commanders.
I mean, listen, have agreed to a deal in principle?
What did San Francis go for? Jonas?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
That was a misuse of the breaking news.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:42):
People were waiting to see what that.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Let's be honestation.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
The only breaking news that we've gotten while doing a
show together is that OJ died.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Okay, that was it?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Like that? Like, that's the luck this show has. O. J.
Simpson dies and uh, we had to you know, break
in and have that conversation about it and then Joel
played a fart drop on the air that was so
grotesque my brother texted.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Me and said it was the worst one ever.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
He said he was walking through home depot and he
was laughing so hard that people thought he was weird
because he was listening on his AirPod. He was so
inappropriate soun oj dies. People are giving awkward eulogies on
sports radio and TV, and we're playing fart drops on
(13:32):
the air while filling in for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
It was the worst funniest one ever. At the same.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
The slappies all the way through.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
I wish we'd I wish we had it still. I mean,
maybe it doesn't hit the same way because now we
would be expecting it, but the the unexpected hit and
the sound of how wet.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'll tell you I know which show was because I
found the link. Can send it to lead you guys
want to play it when we come back, like just
a little just.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Got to hit us with it when we don't know though.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Like.
Speaker 4 (14:20):
That sounds like a duck.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
That sounds like a wet ass part. Somebody had a
whole lot of gas in.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Them, a league a wipe.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
So why would that be in our system?
Speaker 3 (14:40):
The best one ever?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
And what's the title of that OJ's eulogy? Like, what's
the title?
Speaker 6 (14:45):
Fart?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Okay, very good?
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Oh no, it's just adults.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Adults here, awful, awful thing you just said.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Oh it made its debut after O J died. I
didn't make that up like that happened on the air.
Oh my god, why don't you guys grow up?
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Man?
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Can we do a professional broadcast here? Christ's sake?
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You got something wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Man? Me?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, man, yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Well listen. I do know this. This is not wrong
because it is. It is so good though. It is
a football Friday. I know that, an actual football Friday.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
Say all right, yeah, I'm not sure what Yeah, I
don't want to open them out. Yeah yeah, Friday. We
got a part that Friday. We got the parts out. Yeah,
come on, football chuckle, I got my stop school football football.
(16:01):
Let's do it.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Let's come on, all right, let's let's come come on now,
let's do it, right, come on, Eddie Garc you come on,
let's do it.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
Briday night is a football Briday, Football Briday.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Do it?
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Do it?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
You like they're emptying the Fuji, like we.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Gotta start dipping and dodging and bobbing and weep and
like something flying at you.
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Speaker 2 (17:29):
So we did have a little bit of history in
the NFL. Creed Humphrey the Center for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
It's pretty dope name. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Now the highest paid center in NFL.
Speaker 5 (17:40):
History can you take me high, which I'm saying it to.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
It's what no one? What is this?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
What the hell's going on on?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
What was that? Was that? What was that?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Lee? What happened there? We got to we got aliens
in the studio.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
What happened? It's good? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Well, I was looking for some Judo sound.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Hey, Lee, be like Kirk Farens.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
When you mess up, just own it, Okay, own it,
take the punishment and forward.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, my bat, it's all good.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
I was watching some guy demolished. I mentioned some guy
demolish your TV. It was kind of funny.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I think we, uh, well, I think we you know,
we're probably trying to effort the creed song that Brady
was singing and.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
Somehow high paid center ass the streams.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Four year, seventy two million, fifty million dollars in guarantees.
Uh and so congratulations, which I thought it was kind
of interesting they would make this move and they would
discuss it after they got pistol whipped by the Bears
last night and that two season Donnie Brooke at Arrowhead
just wondering, wondering why that, why the moon news.
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Would do you think that's maybe foreshadowing things to come right.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
Well, I mean, listen, if you go win, if you
can go undefeated in the preseason generally speaking, you know,
maybe there is something to people betting the under like
they are on the Bears wind total this year.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
You know, it seems like it could be a problem.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
But Creed Humphrey, Hey, another example, Kansas City paying their
own Hey, Jerry Jones, what are you waiting for?
Speaker 3 (19:24):
Dude?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Like they all the key ingredients in Kansas City are
locked up and ready to go, and they get this
stuff done and there's no smoke and no drama and
nothing else attached to it. Same thing for aj Terrell
for the Falcons. He got a brand new deal for Atlanta.
Like everybody just getting this stuff done and Jerry's sitting
around holding his.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
You know what going on. I didn't mean sugar shaker.
That came out wrong. That was that was a slip,
my bet damn you know, like salt on his food
from from Hard Knocks. Yeah, I didn't mean sugar shaker.
That's all good.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
So congratulations Creed Humphrey gets that deal done for the Camps.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Jeeves, you said a J. Tarrell earlier.
Speaker 5 (20:10):
I mean, it's just a lot of deals getting done.
You wonder when, uh, when your guy Brennan and I
you're just gonna get his deal done? You know why
is he my guy?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's a Levar's guy Arizona State?
Speaker 3 (20:22):
You know well, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
Do you have a connection Arizona State. I mean AP's
not there anymore.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
No, I mean no, it's a nice place though, Yeah
it is.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
Oh I really didn't. I was thinking I'm really gonna
do that. Yeah, I was. I was thinking AP.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
But does the fact that Ajterrell got his deal done,
does that maybe not leave some cash line around for
Matthew Judon to get his done in Atlanta? Is there
the potential that this could have an effect on him
wanting to get that long term deal done that he
was working well from the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
I don't, no disrespect. I don't think that's the most
interesting question about it. What's interesting is the Bears. Your
Bears were also in on this. But Ryan Pole's caveat
to make the deal happen was that Judon had to
agree to a new deal. They had to have a
new deal in place. I mean that the trade compensation
was the exact same supposedly, but it came down to
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Judon having a new deal in place, which about nineteen
almost twenty million in cap space for the Bears right now.
You would have thought that would have worked and that
would have made sense. I mean, that's what Judon's looking for.
So the fact that he chose to go I guess
if all things were equal and they had the choice
to Atlanta instead, kind of interesting to not get that
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long term deal done. Maybe they'll they're looking on the
upside of next year and being able to really capitalize
after a good year in Atlanta. But Chicago was looking
at it already, you know, signing him to deal, not
putting themselves in the Hassan Reddick New York Jets situation
that we're seeing right now.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
That that's the part that I find confusing. So he
wanted a new deal in New England or else he
would have stayed there. That didn't happen. So he had
an opportunity where there was a guarantee he was going
to get a new deal in one place and no
guarantee in the other, and he took the one in
which the deal wasn't guaranteed, right, Like, that's the part
I don't.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Now we're talking. Now we're into the interesting part of
the conversation.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
So can you can you clear it up?
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I mean, is he just thinking that Atlanta's going to
give him an opportunity to be more productive?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
Well, we don't know what the offer was from the
Bears as far as you know, whatever extension they were
offering him. If you look at what the Falcons just did,
I believe they just gave aj Torell the highest highest
amount of guarantees.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
For a cornerback at least on a four year deal
or whatever the number is.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
And you've looked at our their blank giving a hundred
million to Kirk Cousins. You know this organization has a
ton of money. So if he's going there and looking
at trying to not even reset the market, but but
at least be up there with some of the top
of the game a year from now.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
If he does what he's capable of doing when healthy.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
As LeVar talked about the other week, I think he
knows that, like they're will be able to kind of break.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
The bank for him.
Speaker 5 (23:22):
Yeah, and he's gonna be a guy I think they
lean on heavily to be the guy on the outside too.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
In Atlanta.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
So if you're looking at Chicago, you're a nice book
end in Montes sweat, but you know, sweats there he's
getting paid. You might not be making more than him.
So there's all those kind of sorts of thoughts and considerations.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
I think, hmm. I mean.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
It's a little strange, you know. I mean, so basically,
he chose Ryan Pace over Ryan Poles is really what
he did.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
So he tried to create which would make him on
the straight side of the arrow.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
What's what's even more interesting than me is he is
going to make six point five million this year.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
That's what he's going to make.
Speaker 5 (24:03):
Where I have no idea what Chicago offered him, but
let's just say it was probably north of twenty an
for an edge player in today's game, had to have been, had.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
To have been well, because Daniel Hunter got what two
year million dollar deal?
Speaker 3 (24:19):
How do we make sense of that? Though? Is it
because he likes Atlanta?
Speaker 5 (24:24):
I mean, you mention that that, which I mean, Look,
I'm preferential to Chicago, all right. It's got a dear
place to my heart. It always will it always. I
love Chicago. Atlanta's a great place too, though, But I
just I would be more all about Chicago if it
was me, given you know, my time there and going
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to college, being close proximity and be able to go
in and have fun in Chicago. Just seeing that place
in the summertime too, in the fall, it's just Chicago.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Man, it's it's it's got me. Yeah. Wow, it's a
great spot.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah, it's weird. I I I've come to this conclusion
of the past.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Like two year ago tourism hit up two pros on
a cup of Joe heard.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Hey, listen, there's a we got a big noon game
coming up Ohio State Northwestern at Wrigley Field in Chicago
that we got to get there. There's there's a Draft
Kings sports book right at Wrigley Field. There's a Graduate
Hotels in Evanston close.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Gosh, what it sound like you would you like the
sposials today? There's that this is a promance. Okay, how
you says backwards bounds? That's that I mean, that's an
easy one. That is very true, by the way.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, so he chose Atlanta over Chicago. Disrespectful, I mean,
little insult?
Speaker 3 (25:51):
Is that I mean? Is that it's clear? I don't know,
is it shade I'm not high on Chicago. I'm really not.
They got to prove they're not Chicago before I think
they're the Chicago that everybody, a lot of people think
they're going to be.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Not even Gibson's not even like that little stretch they
call the Biagra Triangle there.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
The little stretch, yeah, corridor it is.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Although some of the places have left. You can't make
it anymore. That that that hurt, that hurt deeply. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:24):
I tell you the time I asked my my in
laws there their blessing to propose to my wife. No,
I did it at Tavern Rush because I again had
many great memories there.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
We had a great table on the second.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Floor like looking out onto kind of like the open
little patio park area there, and uh, you know, I ordered.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
You know, bottle of champagne and I'm trying to like
do it up big, right.
Speaker 5 (26:50):
I put my in laws from Boston up in this hotel,
nice hotel, and uh, I think they have on uh
it's business cash, you know, business Okay, Yeah, yeah, So
I you know, I tell them the plans and all that,
and you know, they're all excited and we're kind of
toasting and next thing, I know, I hear all this
hooting and hollering, and I happened to glance over behind
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me down like back on the street, and there's like
two thousand.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Nude cyclists coming by who were.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
Protesting for more bike lanes chocko, and I like, I'm like,
oh my.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
God, oh my gosh, oh man, and.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
I've kind of put my head down.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
And there was a bachelorette party at a bigger table,
probably like two o'clock from where I was sitting, and
they all like, oh, do you mind if we come
by every we got to take picture of this. I'm
like yeah, sure. I was like so, so this moment
that was like I'm trying to encapsulate, you know, is
as put, one of those moments in completely overtaken by
two thousand nude cyclists right there in the Viager triangle.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
But it could have made it. It could have made
it more magical, you know in the end. I mean,
because if it had just went just straight normal, then
it's like it's normal story of how you you know, proposed.
But see this, this one made it super memorable. All
those it definitely meant it.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
I mean, it would have been a memory, but just
one of like That was pretty much it.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
But now if I like, if I say something to.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
My father and Laura were like, yep, you know you
kind of justew Everyone jokes about it.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Now, So now did you still went through with it?
Speaker 3 (28:20):
Right?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You still was at the moment or.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I would have gotten down. I already did it.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
It was like it was literally like we we had
already know my wife wasn't there.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
It's just her parents.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
It was just her parents. So I already asking for
the blessing.
Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah, we would already. We were already toasted, like we
already had this champagne all that. We were good. We
were celebrating kind of. But it was like within that minute.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
After our glasses touched to have a sip of champagne,
there is an entire protest, all sorts of just winers
flopping around.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh yeah, you know, I mean, what's going through your mind?
Speaker 4 (28:55):
That was the odd thing was there was more. It
was more dudes than it was gals.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
But I just didn't know you were there this week?
Speaker 3 (29:03):
What are you thinking about when you say, you know what,
I'm walking out the door. There's my bicycle. I'm getting
on my bicycle. Okay, now I'm pedaling like people are
looking at me like you gotta be a different Like
that's that's got to be even more like kind of
like maybe I don't know, maybe they felt free, but
I mean, what would you rather be naked in a
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strip joint or going through streets of a major sit
strip joint? Right, it's more contained.
Speaker 4 (29:32):
Talk about for the guy or the girl, either one,
either one.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
I mean, I'm just sad, don't you got You gotta
be in a mindset, like a frame of mind to
be protest.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Now they're fired up.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Dang, I mean you got, you know, because you got
to generate power to keep the bicycle on two wheels
and maintain the balances. What's potholes and cracks in the
road June or something like that.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Summertime was ice and warm out. Yeah it wasn't. Yeah,
there wasn't any concern there.
Speaker 4 (30:03):
Jonas was just making sure I know what you're worried about.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
Get the month straight, you know. So it wasn't drinking
last time Saturday.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Last time I was at tavern on Rush, I was mutilated.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Why did they call it Viagara Square.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Because there's Gibson's uh Rush the club. Yeah, but double
like that's not a part of it. It's like the
three It was the three main restaurants that were right.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
There, what.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Roast Carmines. There was Gibson's, Yeah, Hugo's frog Bar, and
then you had there was the Hunt Club up there.
Then you had Level was across the street, and then
if you just took a couple of lufts, you ended
up on Division Street.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
And I don't know what all of this means though,
that's so in essence, there was three main restaurants between
Gibson this, Tavron Rush and and and Carmons.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
And so those three kind of made the triangle, if
you will, I believe, I mean frog.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Bars right there too.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
But but why viagra.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Because there happens to be a bunch of older gentlemen
who might be on viagra, okay, are looking for companionship.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Okay, Oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
And there's a lot a lot to find there.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
The Double that's that's the spot.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, all right place.
Speaker 4 (31:27):
Yeah, you would love that place far, I'm telling you, man,
it stays up.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
It's like four we got oh yeah, they not care.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
We go.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We have to go. We got to go.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Just when you know you got to gots to go.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
And then you stumble on over to Division Street, you
walk on peanut shells inside certain bars, and you're like, Okay,
well here we are.
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Speaker 2 (32:02):
So what's this? Somebody stole something from Penn State, like
a K pop band or some crap like that.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Oh, what's the story?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Did you see this far?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I see it?
Speaker 5 (32:14):
So I believe it was on X where you can
have like the hashtag or whatever.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
And I'm not even sure how this works, but I.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Think the they hit singing group or Sensation K pop okay,
like stole the hashtag or stole that from I think
which Penn State traditionally uses it, but took it away.
And so now every time you see like someone put
like a hashtag we are there is like a little
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emblem with it. But I think it directs back to
K pop. What Yeah, Lee, do you have more information
on this.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Or not?
Speaker 9 (32:51):
I'm trying to figure I'm trying to find this.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
I know there's a different figure it out. No, I'm
trying to find it.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
What I do know is that they do steal hashtags
a lot, Like whenever something is trending, these K pop
bands will take it and uh run with it and
just attach it to every one of their little clips.
I'm not sure which band it is.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
Though, it's for sure K pop this is on it.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
But K pop is all of the music, right, so
it's all under an umbrella.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
K Pop's not an individual band, no, because.
Speaker 6 (33:19):
There's like BTS, there's those pink girls.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I don't know all their names, but like.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
So this this is stating that Penn State's hashtag we
are is now being shared with K pop group.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
Yeah, with AK pop group Yeah, Like BTS stole the
hashtag BTS, which actually stands for behind the scenes, and
they were complaining that people were tagging them and it's like, no,
that wasn't your hashtag to begin with.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Wow, Well it's a it's a tremendously large community, super
super large, like over seven hundred and eighty thousand active
members of kp Alumna alumna, oh, Penn State, yeah, and
over a month millions. What anyway, Uh so maybe they
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maybe whoever is doing it is, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
I have a concert in I'm looking at it right now.
If you do hashtag we are, the little goofy symbol
comes up next.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (34:17):
God says we are exclamation point, Let's get the party.
Speaker 4 (34:21):
Starto.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
You got jacked.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
That means I don't know we are Starto.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I don't know. Yeah, I'm looking forward myself. Put that
in your K pop well.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
And it first came out because there is a tweet
I believe by Penn State Football.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
And it was like wee greater than me team.
Speaker 5 (34:43):
First mentality, and then it says hashtag we are times
coach James Franklin, Jay Franklin, and then that's when like
the we are things started up and people started noticing
that this is apparently being shared with this whatever this.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Is, because now you're gonna have to do we are
penns State.
Speaker 5 (35:00):
So are you saying the name of it Raina is Starto.
That's the name of the K pop group.
Speaker 6 (35:05):
I'm not sure of this K pop band specifically. I'm
just yeah, you I thought you said that they were
called k pop and that's just.
Speaker 5 (35:15):
This is saying that it's is now being used to
promote a new release from I believe the name of
the group is Starto.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Mm hmm. That's interesting.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Yeah, I mean how does that work? Can you just
share whatever you want?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
But why do they get to put the little thing
we are on it?
Speaker 3 (35:32):
It's messed up.
Speaker 4 (35:34):
I assume they pay for it?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Can of something? You send it to me?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
It's in the group chat bud.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Oh Okay, yeah, okay, I mean I listen.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I did see this. I did see this. Yeah, I'm
saying their backdrop it's there, it's their logo.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
I mean, Raina, you probably listened to K pop? Can
you like fill us out a little bit more? What
that sounds like?
Speaker 6 (35:55):
It's funny, my brother does, I don't. I can come
back with some K pop though, if you guys.
Speaker 4 (35:59):
I'd rather not curious.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Fine, okay, I mean, are you calling Penn State's song
k pop?
Speaker 3 (36:07):
Is that what you're doing? Like?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Is that the Penn State fight song? You're calling that
k pop? Apparently if you go on Twitter, that's what
it's looking like.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
No, it's got jacked messed up, man.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
I don't take too much offense to it. We know
what we are, we know who we are. We are
Penn State baby with a goofy yellow symbol next to it. Now,
thank you, You're welcome.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
That's not the only thing that got stolen Tho Jonas.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Anybody, anybody up for a kicker theft.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I just love hearing a coach with a red ass.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
This is great, So a fun little kicker theft story
in the world of college football. Chuck Martin is the
head coach of Miami of Ohio, and apparently Graham Nicholson
is one of the best kickers in college football. Only
missed one field goal attempt last year. He was thirty
five or thirty seven on extra points. He won the
lou Gros Award. Like he's like one of the best
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in college football, the best last year of you based
it on.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Just the award alone.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
Well, he was so in demand that apparently Alabama was
really interested in him. And well, Chuck Martin the head
coach of a Miami of Ohio. He was asked about
it and just wanted to make it clear what actually happened.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
All right, special teams lost your kicker, Carter. We didn't
lose him.
Speaker 11 (37:24):
He's at out, maam, we know exactly where he's at.
Like again, you mediate people, it's all pretend like no,
Alabama stole our kicker illegally. They illegally recruited, they illegally
recruit our kicker and stole them from us, and like
that's that's a fact. But that's that's cow. But we
act like it's not. We live in this la la world, like, hey,
let's not talk.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I mean, knows what's going on.
Speaker 3 (37:44):
So, yeah, Alabama stole our kicker.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
A couple of a couple of other schools try to
steal them, but.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Then think, okay, what's the question to it? So he
took it so literal though where he goes. We didn't
lose them, we know exactly where he's I feel bad though.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
This is like the life of a head football coach
at the group of five level, where a guy comes in,
performs well, and he's looking at let's just call it
what it is. He's looking at getting promoted. He's looking
at going to a power for now school more than
likely someone in the SEC or Big ten. I mean,
that's that's how we're all seeing college football as this
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thing plays out, and it's it's tough not to acknowledge
that the system needs to be fixed.
Speaker 4 (38:34):
There needs to be some more, you know.
Speaker 5 (38:35):
More guardrails, guidelines put in to help sort this whole
thing out. And it's tough because what you're seeing right
now in the college landscape is Olympic sports are being
greatly impacted by this whole you know, revenue share with
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student athletes. Now, there are Olympic sports that aren't being cut,
but they are being so underfunded by the athletics department
at some of these schools that in essence they're going
to turn into club sports. And so not to get
into like a whole big tangent of a conversation that
I don't know that we were prepared to talk about today,
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but if you look at just to go back to
the Olympic conversation, one of the reasons why the US
has performed so well is our system through the NCAA
in Olympic sports in particular, that creates this kind of
training and breeding ground for Olympic athletes.
Speaker 4 (39:38):
You know, they are able to go get their education
at the.
Speaker 5 (39:41):
Same time train and you know, nowadays we don't have
to worry about receiving funding if they are one of
the best Olympic athletes and they can profit off all that.
But the point is that our institutions have provided the
foundation for a lot of the training that goes on
for our Olympic athletes, and it's helped to be able
to propel them to be able to go on and
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eventually make the Olympics and win golds and win medals
and be up there representing the United States. And that
is one of the cause and effects that I don't
know how it's going to play out, but I know this.
I know a certain school that you know some of
the ways they're doing it are you know, for example,
let's say the head coach of this random sport, whatever
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you want to call it, was making five hundred thousand.
Now that head coaching position makes seventy five thousand dollars
a year. And so not only do you save obviously
on the coaching salary, but you're essentially sending the message
that we are not going to be funding this sport
the way we used to because we can't. We're going
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to have to divert those funds to football, to probably
men's and women's basketball, and anything else that we feel
like as profitble generates revenue or can win as championships.
That's where a lot of these schools are at and
so it's unfortunate. But that's one big, big picture issue.
And then the other issue is even within football, you know,
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how do we go about allowing a team like you know,
Miami Ohio and an expanded playoff to remain competitive when
it's hard for them to even hang on any of
these talented players because they don't have the funds to
support even those revenue generating sports like football, for example.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
They're going to represent jucos, and now Jucos have to
represent high school, which totally it's like letting you know,
letting dares continue to reproduce that you're losing the natural
progression and process of coming and going right if you
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really think about it. I mean from my perspective that
I could see all of the other sports. But to me,
the first thing I think about when you hear things
like this is is that you're talking about those those
those lower schools, those mid majors. Uh, they're going to
get pillaged for their players. And so that used to
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be Okay, you didn't make it at Clemson, you go backwards,
you go to a juco, you go to a jukeo.
Then you end up going to you know, it could
be a Power five school, it could be a lesser
of a school. You know, you could go to a
mid major school. And that was kind of the flow
of it. But you always had high school kids that
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were being recruited at a at a high number, at
a high rate. And now you're seeing a change in
how high school kids are getting recruited because basically schools
have to start with recruiting their own players, which is
crazy to think that that's the world we live in. Now.
You have to recruit your own players so that they
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stay and in the school that they're in currently and
not get plucked away by another school. But then you
have to look at the landscape of what are your
needs and where can you go to fill those needs
where you can get a player that can step in
right now today and be able to start for your team.
And that is not juco so much anymore. And it's
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not high schools anymore. You're recruiting other schools. Not only
not only you know, mid major schools, but you're you're
you're recruiting other Power five schools as well. You'll see
a guy leave from Alabama to go to another big
school because now I don't know if we talked about
this on this show or on up on Game. But
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the wild thing is is that you'll see a guy
that that plays for, like I said, in Alabama and
then he ends up at Clemson or he ends up
at you know, Notre Dame or Notre Dame has a
guy that ends up at you know, Georgia or whatever
it may be, right, And that's what you're talking about.
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The dominance of Alabama was because of their depth. Right
you have you have two three guys deep that are
on your your chart, and if somebody goes down, you
have a guy that's just as good, if not better,
that's waiting in the wings to play. And in this
transfer portal and NIL playing a part in how you're
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able to get kids through and into the transfer portal
has totally changed the way that that you can approach,
you know, having a team, a second a second string
guy who knows they could possibly go somewhere where the
need is there for that position, is looking to leave immediately.
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You have agents. I can't believe I heard this the
other day where who was They said, we're shutting down
conversations with agents because it's time for season, said Mike.
Mike shutting we're shutting down conversations of negotiations until until
the winner or whatever it may be for negotiations, so
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agents and all that don't reach out the fact that
this is the day and age that we're in. I
keep saying, we gotta have something that regulates and and
creates more of a structure, because I just see this thing.
It's growing so big and there's so much money at
stake that there has to be a structure that's put
in place in order for it to to not get,
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you know, get too far out of control where it's
not controllable at at a certain point. I mean, otherwise
it's just going to continue to be the wild, wild
West and whoever can throw money at kids and throw
money at situations, which in some ways is how it
already has been for a long time. But it wasn't
so out in the open. You know, it's pretty dangerous.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
That story on the tongue of iloas that armand containing
is writing, and the excerpt that came out that that
is wild to think to his younger brother.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
At Jesus.
Speaker 2 (45:56):
So his brother was in this battle to try and
get more cash from Maryland. There was the potential he
got a one point five million dollar offer from Auburn,
and then Tua stepped in and said, no, we're an
Alabama family. You're not going to Auburn. So he took
less to go back to Maryland. And just the whole
back and forth, like the relationship with his dad is,
(46:19):
you know, just that whole story, like the fact that
his dad like just you know, outside of the nil stuff,
the fact that Tua's dad made Tua, who's a natural
right hander, learned to throw left handed just because.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
Which is that which some coaches would say plays to
your detriment, and only because of how a lot of
play callers like to have everything in right handed formations
and there's more writies, so they're accustomed to that.
Speaker 4 (46:48):
So it's an adjustment for everyone.
Speaker 5 (46:50):
You know, not only the offensive line how they're blocking,
but also the receivers that spin in the ball, the
way it tails, all those things become an adjustment.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
Reading the story and his brother, though, I felt bad
for him, Like to me, it looked like Nal got
in the way of everything else he should have been
focused on, and maybe was to his detriment in the long.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
Run, without a doubt. I mean, and look that dynamic
plays out between brothers, you know.
Speaker 5 (47:15):
Anyway, you know, as far as Talia was always going
to be into his shadow if he stayed at Bama,
which he made that decision on the way going in.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Now you know, once you left and went to Maryland.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
That had everything to do with his relationship with Mike Loxley,
their head coach. So that's part of it too. Like
a lot of kids become, you know, wrapped up into
their relationship with the coach and I would you know,
every time, like a young person, even like parents ask,
I'm like, look, make the decision for the school, make
(47:48):
the decision for like, don't make you know, or don't
sacrifice what you want most for what you want right now,
because you know, in some cases, yeah, he could have
made what one point five million, the article stayed it
from Auburn and maybe there's some other suitors as well.
But in the end he still made high six figures
from Maryland. But if that, if that's not where he
(48:09):
wants his degree from or to build a you know,
a network for the future, or he doesn't feel like
it gives him the best chance to go into the NFL,
that don't go there. You know, like a lot of
these decisions now are made purely based on the short
term of money grab and what ends up happening is
it actually hurts their ability to then get into the NFL.
(48:29):
And for what Talia was able to do with Maryland,
he provided consistency. You know, I don't know if many
people know this. I think he's the all time leading
career passer in Big Ten history, which like, how many
people know that Talia Tonguevailoa is the career all time
leading passer for the Big Ten, Which is it's crazy
to think about because I don't know that he got
(48:52):
not rewarded, but I don't think he got celebrated, no,
and and and that's that's it's surprising. But the whole
point is is he decided to stay and in the end,
you know, they provided Marilynd some stability, enough success, but ultimately,
you know, he's with the Hamilton Tiger Cats now in
the CFL. You know, he had a shot I believe
(49:12):
with Arizona maybe earlier this summer, and that was kind
of it. And now he's gonna have to just kind
of work the long way to maybe get back and
then into having a shot in the NFL. So you know,
for every conversation you want to have about someone saying, hey,
don't leave money on the table, or excuse me, it's
okay to leave money on the table because you might
be able to make it up later, there's instances like
this where you're like, well, he left money on the
(49:33):
table and ultimately it didn't work out. So you know,
does he does he wish he had an extra seven
hundred and six hundred thousand in his pockets.
Speaker 3 (49:39):
I'm sure he does.
Speaker 5 (49:41):
So it's a complicated conversation and situation for a lot
of the student athletes. But I think even more so
that this story points out or that you kind of
brought up Jonas is the dad, like the parents' involvement.
And I can tell you, like you hear stories all
the time of parents who overstep their bounds or parents
(50:02):
who are are the ones ultimately receiving a lot of
the cash that's going to the student athletes. And so
the student athletes are even receiving and they're kind of
just going wherever their parents.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Tell them to go.
Speaker 4 (50:11):
It is a crazy process right now.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
I mean, it's just roll. It's just that's wild, man,
Like I can't imagine being now that I'm a father,
and I don't want to. I'm not trying to judge
him on how to raise his kids or whatever. I
just can't imagine looking at my son and the way
he Plus he's got a Hallitz on his arm, you know,
so he's good throwing right handed, and just talking about
(50:37):
your kid, yeah, talking about my kid. I can't imagine
just being like, hey, Bud, you're doing great. We're gonna
go ahead and we're gonna take a belt. We're gonna
wrap that hand around your torso and you're gonna look
to throw at the other one. And that's just gonna
be the way it's gonna be.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
Here's the thing. I'm curious to see what he looks
like throwing righty now.
Speaker 2 (50:53):
I mean, that's what I'm saying. So that now I
think back when people are like, oh, look at it,
he's floating that ball up there, it's like, dude, it's
not even the right hand. Like now it makes sense,
like and and the fact that he's done what he's
done good for him. So who knows, maybes maybe his
dad's onto something. Hey, by the way, we're onto something here,
because in case you haven't noticed this.
Speaker 3 (51:11):
It's a football Friday.
Speaker 2 (51:12):
Here right, football Friday.
Speaker 3 (51:16):
A throw with my right hand.
Speaker 7 (51:19):
I'm left, throw with my right hand. Right, yeah, we
got right day. Come on, come on, come on, come on,
get the bell down, get the bell down. Time my
arm down, till my arm down, let me throw. I
time my own down. I'll turn my arm down. Let
me throw with my opposite hand, throw with my opposite hay, let.
Speaker 3 (51:42):
Me throw with my opposite hang out are come out?
All right, all right, I gotta get Eddie. We got
to do it, Eddie. Here we go, Eddie, we gotta
do it.
Speaker 4 (51:50):
And here we go.
Speaker 7 (51:51):
Right and night is a football Friday.
Speaker 3 (51:57):
Football Friday. Rock them, do it, scort, slam it up,
Oh my god, football prid Hey.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
You really do carry that tune like that's like we're
not much help, and you bring you bring the energy.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
Brady tunes out, Brady hits Mute.
Speaker 4 (52:15):
I hate the second one. I'm sorry, I said it.
Speaker 3 (52:18):
I hate it.
Speaker 4 (52:19):
I don't I don't like the second one. I'm not
going to participate. You guys keep trying to push the
envelope on this. I'm putting my foot down
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