August 24, 2024 • 55 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Caleb Williams impresses in another week of preseason but what did we learn and does it really matter? The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by to preview the College Football Season. And on a Football Friday, Howie Roseman trades for a division rival wide receiver.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with LaVar arrings and rating win and Jonas knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. Is the best of two pros and
a couple. Joe with LaVar arrings and rating win and
Jonas knocks on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
How the hell we feel here in a Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Happy Monday? Yeah, hell Monday. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Everybody's fired up?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, why not?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I mean everybody's excited. I mean, listen, I know you're
excited Jonas well. Look, I'm just glad that we have
a preseason so that we can actually get a glimpse
at some of the talent that takes the field in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
See, this is why I don't write notes.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
What are you talking?
Speaker 6 (00:54):
This is exactly why I don't write joall. This is
why you guys, You know why, because you guys are
going to debate what I say.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So I wait for the show to say what it
is I'm gonna say. I just could not.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
I just my dismay for the preseason and how I
feel about it is so strong that I just decided
to put it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
In knowing, knowing that this was going to lead to.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
You guys debating me in the email and then it
being you, and I knew you were going to like
be like an instant instigator of it as soon as
we got into the show.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's why I don't do it, No, because I do,
uh the decision, that's right, That's why I sho the decision.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, why do you think it is cute?
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I mean there's there's like it sounds like you guys
have had a conversation about it.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
There could be a marry out of reasons. Doesn't matter
at the end of the day. I guess I'm just
curious because here's the thing is, our audience doesn't understand
why So why do you dislike the NFL preseason so much?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
It's born boring. It's boring, and I think it's a
waste of time outside of outside of it just being
a spectacle to put on television or a spectacle for
the fans to attend. I mean, you could do that
as a practice. It does feel like it's like a practice.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
It does beg the question because it is one thing
where during the summertime, when you're talking to coaching staffs,
and especially talking to coaching staffs in college that have
a big week one matchup.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
One of the.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Comments that I always make is like, we don't have
a preseason. So when you're going through training camp, like
there's elements of intensity you have to have and you
try to protect players, but you've got to hit, You've
got a bang, you've got a scrimmage, because we might
be opening up Week one with a game that could
ultimately deter our season, like it could help elevate us
(02:56):
and springboard us, it could literally cause us to lapse
where we pros. That pros don't have that, and so
there's an element of, like I understand what you're saying
in the sense of they are meaningless where there's nothing
on the line, like when it's the fourth quarter and
both teams are tie, you know, like it's not like
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any team's really pushing to go get the win.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
One way or another.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
They would like to see their young guys or a
backup or someone go get a win, but at the
end of the day, they just want to get back
on the bus as many healthy players as possible and
make it back home safe.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Like that's the reality.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Of Marvin Harrison Junior made the comment I think last
week where he said, yeah, I wish we did have
a pre like at least one preseason game in college.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Well, most big schools used to have that because they
have like a cupcake exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Yeah, I just and listen, I know you you made
the statement, well, what mint you have been able to
win the starting job?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, and my.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Answer, the answer would be this, I'm messing with you.
The dancer would be yes, because they would have been
warded it to them through practice. That's just do whatever,
no different than they do it in college.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So wigure you wanted to debate me, But okay, I figured, okay,
I'm glad you were being circled too.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Seriously, We're just sometimes.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I'm so super literal, and sometimes it just depends on
the mood that I'm in. You know, I'm a parent
of five, and and sometimes you can have one of
those days where they pluck your nerves so good that
you don't you're not sure what you know, where you're at,
you know, emotionally so and then throw marriage into that too,
by the way, it could be a part of it.
(04:37):
So it's you, no, don't. No one needs to turn
this into a controversy. You know, I'm not wearing a
packer's jersey or jacket out of Bears game or anything
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
There's no controversies.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I'm just saying it just depends my mood sometimes can
vary depending on you know, what I got going on.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
So see, I thought you were not happy about your
guys a going with minshe as.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Opposed to us.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
No, No, listen, I think he's in a tough position
because he did not get a quarterback. And I think
everyone who's onlooking is probably you don't even have to
be an astute fan or person that understands football. I
think we all know that they don't have a quarterback.
(05:26):
I mean they're going to have to figure it out
with out a quarterback. And listen, I don't want to
sound like because to be a pro quarterback, if you're Minshew,
if you're O'Connell, like God bless, you're in the pros
and you're playing, so you are a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I don't mean to say it that way, and to
you know, kind of be insulting to the fact that
they've accomplished what they've accomplished.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
I don't want to be dismissive of who they are
as people, because that's wrong, But to the point of
do you have a guy like we we're watching guys
out there playing and listen, I don't I don't pretend
to know if if Caleb Williams is going to be
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the guy, but it damn sure looks like he's going
to be, you know, one of the guys that that
is in this National Football League. And I think you
realize when you don't have a guy like look at
the New York Giants, look no further than the g Men.
If you think that they think they have a guy
at the quarterback position, I would probably debate it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And again.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
On that point.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
On that point, I do find it interesting how preseason
it could either stoke the fires of expectations for franchises
or boy, it could already start that sea getting hot.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Really, I mean just to jump on you, but but really,
you can only hurt yourself in preseason.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what I think.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You can only hurt yourself in preseason, like, cause if
you do well, it's like, oh, it's preseason. You're not
going up against starters, you're not showing anything, it's preseason like,
it doesn't matter. But if you stink it up, if
you stink up preseason, then like Daniel Jones, like people
are jumping all on Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones,
Daniel Jones like like all he has done has hurt himself.
(07:30):
Like if he didn't play, if they weren't playing them,
we wouldn't even know to hate him so much or
to not like how he's playing.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
We had still, dude.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
I remember in two thousand and nine and we were
literally in preseason.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It was Eric Manngini's first year.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Brian Dable was calling plays, and we were running stuff
that like trying to like scheme up, trying to like win,
trying to like look good in preseason. And Week two
we got to Denver and I know this is I
traded there the next year, and we get blown out
by the Broncos, not even I mean, we.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Couldn't do anything offensively. And I remember talking to.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
One of the Broncos dbs and they were like, Bro,
you guys did everything you were doing in preseason like
that like in our game. He's like, we knew everything
you guys were gonna do because y'all didn't change anything.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's like, why do you guys do that?
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Go?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I was like, honestly our coaching staff like wanted to
like really look good in preseason, and so they showed
a lot of concepts.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
They showed a lot of things they were doing.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And we had a young team that year, so it
wasn't like a lot of new pieces, so it wasn't
like you could adjust and adapt and do a ton
of things. And I just I thought to myself at
that moment, like, yeah, that's the difference. Like when I'm
in year seven when I got to Seattle and that
was a team that ended up going on to win
the Super Bowl. They were just running the vanilla basic
concepts and they you know, a lot oftentimes it was
(09:05):
like if it was man to man, they want you
to go basically find a matchup you like and give
that guy a shot. And then there was actually, in particular,
one moment when we call a time out, Pete Carroll
walks over and I walked over to him and he goes,
what do you think?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I was like, I'm gonna throw to so and
so if he's matched up one on.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
One again, and he goes exactly, He's like, that's exactly
what I want you to do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I go perfect. So we go back out there literally
throw up a bomb to him.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
He ends up catching it for a touchdown, and that
was like, it was such an eye opening difference between
how a team that would eventually move on to win
a Super Bowl wanted to operate, wanted to put guys
in positions to compete, versus a coaching staff that was
just like trying to look good. And so to your point,
like I would actually say, you could there's really no
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upside in the sense of if you're a bad football
team that's trying to look good and you do look good,
you kind of set false expectations because a lot of
the teams are looking at the game the same way
you are, and if you do have a four preseason,
it can only then snowball effect. But which it's funny
like the Colts. Remember the Colts Jonas with Peyton, I
(10:12):
want to say, they historically were awful in the preseason
and would always like ball out. Obviously during his time
with the Colts, you could you could check that area,
go back and check that, but I want to say
that was one of the things that I used to
always look at and bring up and be like, the
Colts really never cared that much about preseason. They just
want to get to the regular season healthy and feel
good about where they were at.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
We went undefeated one year, Fave and no Fave and
was a fact. Keep saying fab and think it was
Fave and no.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
We went and the.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Hall of Fame game, then Hall of Fame game. Maybe
it was Osaka. I don't know either was Fave and
no Osaka.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Okay, we went to Ocaca, Japan.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Anyway, Uh, we've won like five games in the regular season.
I mean we went undefeated, whatever the number of games were.
We went undefeated in the preseason with coach spurryor his
first year, and everybody was like he has arrived. He
(11:18):
he has brought that Florida Gators style to the NFL
and it is a raft. I mean, we got to
the regular season and we won five games.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Five Now was that during Like how many rounds of
golf do you think Spurryer got in a week?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I don't know, but he told you he was hitting there, y'all.
Get in the gym, y'all, y'all, get some some weights in,
you know, Uh, get home, get some rest. I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go hit them greens and.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
A couple of balls. Well, how would players are My
line that.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I always felt like if we had enough pros, we
would have been a winning team. I just thought we
were young, we were immature, and then I just didn't
think that we handled how how I felt like Steve
Coach Spurrier respected us as pros.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Like he was always like, you know, we're all pros here.
That was his thing.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
He'd always say, we're all pros here, like you know,
it's gonna show. It's gonna show on film. You know,
if you're not there, if you don't end up being here,
it's because you put it on film or you didn't
like we're all pros like hey, And I was, I
was like, man, like, this is the greatest coach ever
of all time. Like I love Coach Spurrier because he
(12:37):
allowed us to be who we wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
To a fault, it was to a fault because there
was enough.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
There wasn't enough dudes that like dudes were going to
the club the night before games and stuff like. It
was just bad. It was just a bad environment. But
I mean, I liked him. I thought his his schemes
were were dope. I just we didn't have a quarterback either.
Back to the rich point, we never had a quarterback.
(13:04):
He brought in Shane Matthews, love you bro like Shane
dope dude. Brought in Danny Warfle Love you bro, dope dude.
But we didn't have a guy. We didn't have a
guy at quarterback. We just did not have a guy.
My rookie year, we had two guys and they couldn't
figure it out. North couldn't figure it out. We we
(13:25):
you know, we knows that. I really don't even think
it was that bad. We just didn't have a kicker.
We just we were losing games by like.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
One point like every week.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
But we had Brad Johnson and Jeff George on the
same team and and that you know that didn't even
work out. But you gotta have a guy, man, you
gotta have a guy. And I don't know, I just
think preseason preseason says that that the New York Giants
don't have a guy. Preseason says that that the Las
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Vegas Raiders they don't have a guy. I just feel
like you could figure out all of those things. Whatever
you're going to figure out, you can figure it out
in practice.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
All those things you.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Want to work out on that like you said, trying
to look good in a preseason game versus you know,
getting the reads and different things and the discussion points
from the coach and stuff like that. Like I get
dress rehearsals, so when you have those enter you know,
those those two squad dual squad scrimmages and practices and
(14:27):
stuff like that. I like the idea of that, I
really do. I like the idea of two teams coming together,
practicing together, and then getting out of there instead of
sitting all of the starters or deciding to play a
couple of them, the couple of them get judged. What
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if what if one of these other quarterbacks came out?
What if Pat Mahomes didn't do the behind the back?
What if we didn't see Caleb play the way that
he played. Generally speaking, I was thinking this too, and
I was going to ask you this, And I know
we're running a long, well, at least I'm running a
long because I just don't hate I hate the preseason,
But like, when did you make some of your best
(15:09):
play your best football, Your best football came in like
the second quarter or the third quarter of a game
because you were able to get a feel for what
was going on. You got the information. This is what
they're trying to do to me, this is what they're running,
here's here are the adjustments, here's the feel of the game.
Here's a feel of the speed of the game. All
(15:31):
these different elements that go into being able to make plays,
the plays that people want to see. Some of those plays,
some of that solid play a lot of times don't
come until later in the game.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And if you're only playing one or two series in
a game, you can't.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
For me, I would hate to be judged on one
or two series of a game where it's a game
of getting into the flow of the game, feeling what's
going on in the game, looking at your coaches, looking
at your team, what are they doing out there? What
can we do to be better? Making the just I
just feel like, what is the point of it? And
(16:08):
I'm done, I'm off my soapbox.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Well, I think the quick answer to that is it
used to be kind of the warm up for guys
before the real thing would happen. Obviously, as you know,
I know now, I think it's transitioned to help younger players.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Rookies back into the roster, guys get their shots.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
So I will say this for some of the guys,
and I've always got a soft spot by heart who
weren't going to make it to the regular season roster
some of the last football they may ever play and
in the NFL put it on an NFL uniform, NFL
field and all that. So there's a soft spot in
my heart for those guys. There's a soft spot in
my heart for some of those guys that that might
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be the only playing they ever really get and they
bounce around for a few years and that's it. So
I understand it's purpose to your point of you know
how many games and all that, because I think you
maybe called for one preseason game, maybe one or two.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Probably one.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I think they'll go to two at some point soon
once they go to eighteen. But it, you know, it
does seem like there is some big time downside with
potential injury risk, et cetera. But I look, I know
Jonas loves it because the Bears are hot right now.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Johnny, you've got all the momentum.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
But uh, don't will Williams lighting the world on whatever
you do. Don't you make comparisons because he does not
seem to be a fan of that. We will get
to hear from that and from Cam Williams on all
that coming up here shortly.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It is maybe it was that he was throwing that day.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, I don't want to give it away on
the air, but LeVar made a point off the air
which I don't think you can actually say.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Light cron Yes, yeah, yeah, I've said on air. Oh
wow means yeah wow, like Star Wars.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yes yeah, well you got you got. It's perfectly like
Star Wars. You got, you got the side, you got
the dark side.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Wom like squam woh woh wah wah wom womm woh
woh woh wah wanh wanh that's the dark side.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Right Lee watches Star Wars. He's on the dark side.
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Speaker 2 (19:06):
So it is a Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
We've got traditions on the show, and one of those
is the Old pe Petros Papadakas. He is the co
host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can
hear on the Blowtorch, A five seventy LA Sports Fox
college football analyst as well too, and the Old Pee
on X Petros. Good morning, how are we feeling?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
How are you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
We're good. I was trying to figure out I thought
we were. We had discussed you getting an intro song
when you come onto the show, but apparently you say
this show's.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Taste in music is not my taste.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
What do you mean.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Your show has a terrible taste in music? Damny, I
mean not LeVar. LeVar knows I want to be loved by.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Bo I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I get it, a couple of white hum of white guys, but.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Yeah, you you dressed like you are in a Motorhead
cover band. And then Brady's Brady stood every song and
I imagine da He's gonna get all defensive and imagine
Dragons concert. So it's very difficult for all of them, right,
you know, and probably Zach Bryan and a bunch of
other stuff, so it's hard.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I like Zach Bryan though, is.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Zach Brian or Luke Bryan?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I don't know the dude is Zach Bryan.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
Yeah, the white dudes with the trucker hats, that's and
all the girls. And I don't know if I made
this point on the show, but I don't go out much,
as you guys know. I'm a bit of an agora phobe.
I get nervous and anxious if I'm out. And I
used to go to concerts a lot, Like I used
to go to a concert every night when I lived,
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not every night, maybe four or five nights a week
when I lived right, I lived in LA and I
would go to the little venues. I'd go to the Troubadour,
or I'd go to the Echo Plex or the Smell
Downtown or the Knitting Factory when it was opening all
these places, and I would see all kinds of crazy shows.
The music scene in a big city, for shows like
(21:04):
that at places like that is really great. But anyway,
a couple months ago, I got back on my horse
and went to a show and I stood there at
the Wilturn Theater and I just could not believe how
miserable and ugly all the people that go to the
(21:24):
music shows that I like are, you know, as opposed
to like who is his Zach, Brian Luke, Brian Colmb's
jelly roll whatever, all these country guys are. Where the
Kansas City Chiefs show up. Every one of those shows
has like thirty billion hot chicks with huge missile boobs yea,
(21:47):
wearing nothing, Yeah you know what I mean, like like
jeans and are all torn up that are all the
way up there there crack, just huge, just bobling boots.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, it's a Zeppelin party, right.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
It's yeah, it's warheads, you know, it's like Ukraine versus
Russia cans and and then I look around at my
shows and it's all like purple haired chicks with huge eyebrows,
and I'm just like what you know, Why why is
everybody that likes the music? Why does having good taste
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in music come along with being so miserable, so sad
and so ugly? And you know, I'm miserable, sad and
ugly too. It's not like I'm any better than that.
And then the worse than that, I'm old. So it's terrible.
But yeah, I did notice that about me. Having good
taste in music means you get to be around good
looking people. I guess I mean bad taste in music.
(22:48):
That means good looking people. Good taste in music equals misery, sadness,
and a general feeling of unhappiness and discontent.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
It's all almost here though. We got a week zero
this week college football.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I mean, come on, you gotta let's go.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I can't believe I can't believe this.
Speaker 11 (23:12):
My uh my mic is working because my internet's down
at the house, so technically I shouldn't even be on
right now, but I was.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I would look aside from the football, God's petrick right.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
I would look up the week zero schedule right now
if I could.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I want to stage Georgia Tech. We got that in Dublin, Ireland.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
All right, that's the Brady Quinton Bowl. Why why does
anybody care about what happens in.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Ireland if Notre Dame's not playing?
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Agreed there, It's it's really the country itself is trying
to make this an annual thing as they try to
grow the sport of American football. So it's it's it's
kind of their initiative they've got going on. It's cool, man,
I would say any school that's looking at doing it,
you got to sacrifice a home game, but it makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 11 (23:56):
Many at Georgia Tech right or of State in twenty
twenty four you could say, yeah, I went to Dublin
with my team and that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Cool, right, Petros, what are your thoughts on Montana State,
New Mexico for Eastern.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Time on FS one, that's the Tim Brando game. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Nice, that's the Tim.
Speaker 11 (24:15):
Brando Devon Gardner debut. Because they hired Devon Gardner, the
great Michigan quarterback, to work with Timmy B. And I
guess Spencer, Yeah, Spencer, he moved to a different crew, oh.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Man, Him and Timmy B had a good time in
the booth all the time.
Speaker 11 (24:32):
Maybe too good a time, perhaps, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Maybe that's what I don't know. You know, everything must change,
winter turns the spring. Everybody's a milk carton. We all
have an expiration date.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Some milk gardens.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
I'm interested in New Mexico because I sat with Bronco
Mendenhall over the summer and it was like sitting with
Aristotle or something.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Not very football coachee, but very very interesting.
Speaker 11 (25:01):
And a guy who's been at BYU and obviously at
Virginia and now at New Mexico, which is kind of
like a last chance you situation, and it has been
for a little.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Bit of a while, and Rocky Long really actually made
New Mexico football relevant.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Long.
Speaker 11 (25:21):
Yeah, that that extra the extra safety, that wacky defense
that they ran, and then they brought in a guy
that ran it under him in Danny Rodriguez, and it
just didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
So now they got Bronco.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
So I am interested in that game actually because I
sat with Bronco and they said they're going to be
a lot better SMU.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Nevada.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Okay, I'm interested in Nevada because they hired they hired
a coach from Texas, the defensive coordinator at Texas. His
name is choat. Yeah, and I was. I sat with
him too, and I was impressed with him.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Uh do you know where he was born?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Choke? Yeah, Dublin, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Baby Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
What's the connection.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's where I was born? Oh no, I was born
the same hospital.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
She How about that?
Speaker 11 (26:22):
My wife and I were born in the same hospital
about a month apart.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
That's the chances of that didn't mean till college.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
That's pretty crazy. Her dad, you know, in the little
baby room.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well maybe, yeah, Well I don't know.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
I wasn't there for a month, jeez, Brady, Like I
was a kid with a big tube stuck up his note.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Maybe she was still there waiting on you. Maybe this
is like one of those those rob columns we could
come up with a script for.
Speaker 11 (26:48):
It's San Pedro, California. Your dad was in the Navy,
that's all m okay. But yeah, you're right, you know,
maybe they took me back for jaundice or something like, Oh,
but yes, I haven't sit in the back as well. Hey,
this kid looks like a minion.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Can we get him another two.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Number?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
They named their quarterback long Yeah, Miller Moss. How you
feel about hell, yeah, how you feel about this team?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 11 (27:19):
I don't know, but Miller Moss was kind of the
guy that was going to get the job.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Anyway.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
They brought in a guy named Jaden Mayava from UNLV. Yeah,
who started most of his freshman year and led one
of the great UNLV seasons at least in recent memory,
like twenty thirty years, and then he took money to
be a backup at SC. Miller Moss had a great
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performance in the Holiday Bowl against Louisville. Yeah, without without
Caleb Williams just running around like a chicken with his
head cut off, the offense kind of ran on time
and it seemed like a real breath of fresh air
for the team. I don't know how that translates to
Lincoln Riley Collin plays on time all year in twenty
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twenty four without more of a freelance style quarterback. Spectacular,
but freelance and us He's got their defensive problems, they
had their identity problems. But it's got to be remembered
that USC went seven and seven in Caleb Williams last
fourteen games, and we're just we're talking about one of
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the great quarterback prospects in a long time consensus number
one pick, and they were five hundred. Not in the big, tough,
angry big ten. That's going to knock the hair off
their puzzo.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But that's right.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
But in the Pac twelve, damn they were seven and
seven and there's a loss to tu Lane in there.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
So if Caleb.
Speaker 11 (28:50):
Williams can't lead you under Lincoln Riley to a victory consistently,
what can Miller Moss do? Maybe he can do more,
I don't know. Maybe the new defensive identity of USC's
football team, at least with the coaching staff they hired
and Doug Belk and Matt Enttz and Deanton Lynn the coordinator,
maybe they can do a lot better job.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
But I don't.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
I have absolutely no idea what Lincoln Riley is going
to look like without Caleb Williams on the West coast
and what his team will be like without his air
raid defensive staff that he brought in for the last
three years or two years.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
So that part of it, that part of it is
a real mystery. They play Utah State.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
In there early, but they have to go to this
LSU game, and some LSU media thing reached out to
me this week and was like, you know, can we
get a comment about these two great programs taking on
each other? And I was like, yeah, it's great to
see LSU playing a game against anybody west of the
mississipp No, right, but that's just west of the When
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was the last time LSU played anybody west of the Mississippi?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
If that's if that's all you're capping it off.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
I mean, no, no, I'm just saying it doesn't happen
much to see a great program like that out here.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
They just don't do it.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
I remember Georgia came out when they had Matt Stafford,
for God's sakes, to play against Arizona State, and it's
a big deal. So for those of us it's always
don't get all east coast in and get your blood up, Brady.
I'm just saying it's a big deal when they come
west to the Mississippi. Awkward is that USC spent the
whole offseason trying to get out of the game. And
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that's a Fox versus ESPN kind of thing. But I mean,
what's LSU going to be like? They'll they'll be without
their quarterback that ran around and did everything for them
for the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Ryan Kelly will be with his family. He ain't done
winning yet.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
You mean the commodore Colonel Kelly.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Yes, I was there family and the second manassas we
took bull Run.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
We ain't done winning yet.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I look forward to seeing what they're going to be like.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
But I have no real prediction other than you know,
eight wins is a good season. I guess the main
event for LSU or Southern col For Southern Col, I
don't think much about Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I work at Fox Damneez.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Other than Commodore Kelly.
Speaker 11 (31:28):
By the way, Patrish, it took me like six months
to be like, really, that kid in Arizona State's gonna
win the Heisman?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
All right? I guess I'll look uh So.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
The main event for week zero is the Hawaii Rainbow
Warriors hosting powerhouse Delaware State, and Hawaii's a thirty nine
point favorite.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Dude. I like Hawaii to take it to UCLA in
week one.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes, game under their belt? Why not?
Speaker 11 (31:51):
Timmy Chang, ladies and gentlemen double fisting tall boys?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, look out.
Speaker 11 (31:56):
Let me tell you about my conversation with Timmy Chang
in Vegas. Why head coach, I said, Coach, tell me,
do you get the support that you need from the
school and the community.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
And he said, frankly, Petros, no, we don't.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I mean what gave it away that they tore the
stadium down.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I mean it fits like three thousand people.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
Delaware State is not the Blue Hens, though, Delaware is
the Blue Hens. And well LeVar knows all about it
because that's his territory. Flacco, right, was a blue hand
and Rich, Yes, what's Delaware State?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I I'm looking at the hornets, the Delaware State hornets
like Sack.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
State, all right, yeah, you don't mess with that.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
No, nobody to get stung by a hornet on the balls,
so you.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Know they can keep stinging you too.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, like not like a bee, like they die.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Yeah, they have the blue Shoes stinger all right.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, it stays hard and fresh, damn right. Yeah. All right.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
So I don't know what LSU is going to be like,
I'm vaguely familiar with what USC will be.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like. Can I ask you general question, Petros?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I mean that's why I'm here.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Well, I'm just saying, like, in regards to preseason rankings,
do you feel like they're necessary?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No, do you Are you a fan of it? Are
you not?
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I think we talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
They hurt teams that are not ranked that end up
being great, right, You end up having to climb and
climb and climb, and people forget about you, and it
takes months and months to be legitimate. Now in the
current model, with all these playoff teams, I guess it
doesn't really matter. And even with TCU a few years back,
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with only a fourteen playoff, it didn't really matter, right.
They kept winning week after week until somebody woke up
and paid attention and everybody was like, oh my god,
TCU's going to go to the playoff, and they did
so and they won a game. So yeah, I guess
it doesn't hurt you as bad as you think, but
it just media wise, it confuses people because perennially every
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year there's two or three teams in the top ten
that finish unranked, like USC last year with the greatest
quarterback on the history of the game who started every game,
and they still finished the season on rank. So that
part of it bothers me a little bit, But I'm
way past the You have to have the little number
next to the logo to watch the game kind of thing,
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you know what I mean, I feel like that's a
real lazy way to watch college football and college basketball.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
That must be a lazy mother effort. Boy.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
Well, I mean, I look where that number. But we're
all conditioned for that. That's what we're conditioned to do.
And it's wrong. I mean, but you always do want
the best games.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
In the rank, right, But I feel like that's exactly
what you just said.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I feel like it.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Tells me like if it was a team that isn't
necessarily on my radar, like okay, this team is right, like, yeah,
lost this game.
Speaker 11 (35:20):
Five star recruit thing, you know, like every five star
recruit nothing pan out, But the more five star recruits
that you bring in, more likely it is you probably
be a pretty good football.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
You know, well that's well, you know, but part of
that is a hype train too, you know, And that's
why the whole five star recruit thing is is fools gold.
And that's why, you know, sometimes the rankings are fools gold.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
But he's still at USC.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
No, he went to Boise State. He just lost the job.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, that's why he just lost the job.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
So he lost the job to a short, fat guy.
Speaker 11 (35:53):
Oh Madden, Yeah, Madson Maddox. Madson has some little, short
fat guy who a little bit last year. But I mean,
that's one of those interesting things. You're talking about. A
guy who's a big recruit out of high school and
he got almost three hundred thousand dollars to never really
take a snap at SC and then he enters the
portal and because he was a five star recruited se
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even though he didn't win a job to save his life,
even though they wanted him to beat out Miller Moss,
he was their bigger recruit, didn't win a job to
save his life. Six foot five, kind of slow twitch.
The arm didn't develop into the wild, crazy arm talent
that everybody predicted. I'm not saying he can't be a
good college quarterback or beyond, but he gets paid again
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off that hype at Boise State, probably another few hundred
thousand dollars, and he's sitting on a pile of cash
to never play and get beat out twice at least
so far. So that's modern college football. And I guess
that's a way to ride the rankings and get paid
without ever actually proving it.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
But the teams have to prove it, LeVar.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
They're going to have to play even if Malachi doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Petros, do you know your schedule for calling games yet
or how I have a week one?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, what are we looking at?
Speaker 11 (37:09):
I got Wyoming, which who I like, and Arizona Boy,
Arizona State, who's.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Picked to be last in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I was just gonna ask you, how do you think
they'll be this year? How will they fend well.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
That I looked at?
Speaker 11 (37:21):
I mean I did a couple of their games early
last year, and they got beat in a They got
beat in a tussle with Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State ended
up being really good or a lot better than we thought,
at least under Mike Dundy, and then they got ass
handed to them by Fresno State, who was much more
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complete top to bottom football team. They were devastated up
front and a lot of problems. They certainly looked like
a much deeper team. They brought in the Michigan State
quarterback transfer Sam Levitt, who I believe is going to
be their starter. So Arizona stage, I mean, there's be
very hard to say they're not going to be improved.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
But Wyoming is pretty.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
Tough on all levels top to bottom with that North
Dakota State style pedigree that Craig Bowl left for Jay Savel.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
So we'll see what it's like. But anyway, I'm looking
at it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I'm working nice get him on Twitter or x.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But anybody cares. There's no little ranking by those teams,
and we'll be watching.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I won't be watching.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
He is the co host of the Petro Some Money
Show on the Blowtorch A five seventy l A Sports Fox.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Time is that state game?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I don't know, Noon Eastern, Come on Big Noon Kickoff baby, Yeah, story.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Be in Morgantown. Yeah, I will be watching Q. I'll watch.
I always watched the Big New I mean your part
watching the Penn State game too.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
I have I think I have a Little Noon in
a couple of weeks. You know what Little Moon is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
That's the f S one noon game.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
You got Big Noon on Fox eleven and Little Noon
on FF Little.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
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Speaker 4 (39:12):
I would also like to point this out just to
get ahead of this before anybody else wants to attempt
to go there this weekend for you candy asses that
are going to diminish the fact that we've got Week
zero football and it's like less than Week one football
this weekend. Screw you go do what nerds do and
leave real sports and real football to the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Here we decide for real football. Yeah we are.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, we are such a statement right there, thick of
this man.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Good part is if you notice what the NFL has
kind of done. The NFL is even starting to kind
of encroach on the college football schedule and trying to
make sure they know, like, hey.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Where were the big brother here? Okay, you do what
we say to do. So I would not be shocked
if we zero doesn't become Week one.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Yeah, as things continue on, like, I think that's where
it's all going. And so if you're not used to it,
you better get used to it, because some of your
the best teams are gonna be playing their Week one
matchup in a Week zero. It's just gonna become the
new Week one in essence.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I mean, some would argue the fact Hawaii's playing is
the best teams, like one of the best teams.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I don't know that anyone.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
Would argue that, but I do appreciate that Hawaii's playing
a week zero.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Now, are you good about it?
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Are you gonna get that in at eleven fifty nine
pm Eastern time? Are you gonna watch opening kickoff for
Hawaii coming up tomorrow night into Sunday morning? Braden Quinn
or what.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I'm sure gonna try. Yeah, I'm sure gonna try.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Well here's what else is fun. We've got moving and
shaking in the NFL, and the Washington Commandos takes center stage.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Why would they do this?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
John Dotson A we are alum?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
He and a fifth round pick go to the Eagles
for a third round pick and two seven and round
picks in the twenty twenty five draft. So Philly gets
a wide receiver three he'll go along with AJ Brown
and DeVante Smith after. You know, Dotson had a little
bit of a step back last year. I don't know
if that's on him necessarily as opposed to whatever the
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hell else was going on there in Washington, But nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Clearly they weren't impressed. That was not impressed.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Trade him inside the division?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I mean he does let him go inside the division
that you have? I mean, I don't know they made
it a trend because there was another Penn Stater that
was inside the division that ended up in Philly as well.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, one man's treasure or
one man's trash is another man's treasure. Oh he's not trash, damn.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I mean to let him go like that, they must
not have They must not think too highly of him.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My guy. You know, maybe I think that's trash at all.
I like, I sure do. I think he really rouds
out their wide receiver group.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
And I think what's more interesting is, you know, they
had a couple of draft this year, granted in the
fifth and sixth round. I know sometimes we say that,
you know, we act like, you know, you know, they
should be able to those guys should be able to
make the roster. But the reality is they've they've got
some draft picks, some guys who they they took in
some spots. And I thought, you know, Johnny Wilson, who's gigantic.
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He's a big body, target kid out of Florida State.
I thought he would be a guy that might make
the roster.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Now you got Aniah Smith, who was extremely productive during
his time at Texas and m I really liked him
coming out of college.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
He was a fifth round pick.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
And then you've got guys like Paris Campbell, who was
a veteran John Roster who was trying to make a comeback.
Really interesting story, but remember he used to have the
fastest forty yard dash time. And if you think about it,
like those four guys amongst probably three others that are
on the roster, they're fighting for two spots. Like there's
no guarantee past five roster spots at the active roster
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for the wide receiver position because when you trade for
Dotson like that, like he's on it.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
And obviously you have Demante Smith and AJ Brown.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
So this is the time of year where you see
something like that happen at the end of preseason, you
go ooh, it's not so much that Washington didn't even
like what they saw a dots Andy. Maybe they didn't,
you know may maybe they said he's probably not gonna
make our roster. It's not gonna be a big part
of the plan. But Philly's looking at what they have
and they're saying the same thing about their guys and
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so like when they're bringing a dots and they're like, no, no, no,
we've played against this guy.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
We think we can make him special.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
So once again, I feel like Howie roseman Man puts
together a roster unlike any other.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
And I can kind of understand why.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
The media or the fans there in Philly, you know,
could look at Jalen Hurts and they had to have
huge expectations because who else has this like bounty of
riches to throw to hand off to to protect him
and then a def that should be improved, like it's
it's just rare to find.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
That consistently NFL. But he's had that. It's been the starter.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yeah, Philly is uh you want to talk about going
all in? I mean they have a basically an all
star right roster, right, I mean that could that could
be a team that's.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Full of Pro bowlers, like full of them.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
And and that's man, I'll tell you what for for
anyone to think that it was a runaway for Dallas
to win the NFC East this year this season, which
I think Dallas will be good. They will be formidable,
and probably I don't I don't know what the odds
makers say, but they're probably the ones that were the
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odds on favor to win the East. I think I
think Philly's going to be a problem, man, I mean,
how are they not? If Jalen Hurts is healthy and
I'm not sure how how unhealthy he was last season.
I think that played a major part and why he
wasn't as effective as he could have.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Been last season.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
But if he can be, you know, maintain his health
this year, Philly is going to be I mean, they
might be right back in it and right back in
the Super Bowl. It could be another rematch of I
thought thought it might have been last year. Could be
this year where it's the Eagles and uh and what
the Chiefs that the end up back in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I would be mad at it.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Let me throw a possibility, you guys from the Washington standpoint, Yeah,
I mean, this does open up the potential of maybe
Brandon Ayuk. I'm just listening. He and Jade Daniels have
a close relationship. He was on the list of teams
that Brandon Ayuk would have been interested in. You've got
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Adam Peters there in Washington who spent years in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
The office know each other.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
No, I'm just saying, like there is it does feel
like this would open up the potential for that to happen,
and maybe this is this is something that could be
lining up here.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
They didn't get better.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
I mean, I like, I like Luke McCaffrey, but kind
of a relatively unknown.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah off top Brady, Yeah, I mean, but.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
He comes from great stock. I mean, you can't what's
that supposed to be? We got all of a sudden
put an asterisk next to it.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
What is the what is the well poisoned for us?
Speaker 3 (46:30):
What's going on you? J Brady? Brady's okay, what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
We got Tyrone's in our family.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
And and Mondevus Angloine de Mele, Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
That's true. I can't I can't argue you there.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
Well back to my original point, what you got Diyami Brown?
Like he's a little guy, maybe like a slat guy.
You know, I don't know. They didn't get better by
making that move. So so to say what you just said,
although I'll say it seems late in the game. I
wouldn't be met or shocked or surprised if they made
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a play for for our U. I would not mean
because there is the affinity for one another, back to
to the A s U days, there's a familiarity between them.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Did we lose that drop that we used to play?
We don't have that anyone.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
What do you mean the uh? Oh that guy that's
still currently with the Yeah, that one.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Good.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah. Uh you know, shift turnover, you know what happens.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
But I mean that.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Turns it out? Doesn't it immediately? Doesn't it immediately turn.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Doesn't that immediately turn.
Speaker 6 (47:54):
Into one of the most potentially formidable receiving in the
league if they get it used to go with with with.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
McLaurin, m Yeah, it would be I'm gonna be up there.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
It's still it's still still not Philly with Dotson and A. J.
Brown and DeVante Smith. But but that's a lot. That's
just a lot. And they got a tight end. That's
a lot, man.
Speaker 6 (48:20):
But I'm just saying, you're still looking at one of
that that turns into a very very dynamic duo of
of receivers.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
If they were able to pull that off.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Because they did not make their their team better by
letting Johanne go, because that would have been your one
two that's your one two punch. So if you're letting
him go and you did get a little bit of
draft capital, a little bit, I mean, what what do
you say, two third rounders?
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, it's a third to fifth or something third, something
to that effect.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, we've got a third round pick and two seventh
round picks, so basically a third round pick and two
basically a third round pick, two pennies you would find
in a fountain outside of car wash.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Do they have do they have the space?
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Do they have the cap space to give a UK,
Because if there's a team that would be willing to
do it, even with this new ownership group, that I mean,
that would be the.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Team to do it.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Off the top of my head, I think they're top
three in cap space. I think I remember seeing that.
I think it was them in Chicago and and one.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
So they could do it. That was interesting to start events.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I think I saw that recently their.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Fourth the fourth at San Francisco, New England, Detroit. So
none of the teams that you mentioned besides Washington good
I'll tell you yes, as of right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Second, let me let me look that up. I'll get
on this right here.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
It makes a ton of sense. I mean it would be.
Speaker 6 (49:54):
It would be a blockbuster move and a good one,
the right one. If that's why they blew you know,
docs and out, that would make a lot of sense. Yeah,
as it stands right now, it doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 7 (50:09):
What doesn't make a lot of sense is if you
do have forty nine million in cap space, if you
are the San Francisco forty nine ers, and that is
the most as of right now heading into twenty twenty four,
why they wouldn't do the deal? Like, I mean, I
know you're gonna have to sign perty at some point
in the future, but I mean, you've got forty nine
(50:29):
to work with this year?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (50:36):
I hope they pulled that off for the fans. Shouts
up to the fans, Man, shouts out to the commanders. Fans, dope, fans.
They have endured. Boy, but.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Oh what breaking.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
News from Fox Sports. I can confirm Niners, Patriots, Lions,
and Washington Commandos as the top four with available collary
cap space.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I just want to get that out there.
Speaker 6 (51:02):
Guys, I thought we had called.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
It that drop.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Just for that, I just want to let you know
I was on it.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
And by the way, the Bears are middle of the pack.
They're actually sixteenth this first cap space.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
You know, back back in the day, about two months ago,
they were near the top.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
So yeah, but before the off season started, all that changed.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Listen. It's not official until I was able to listen
lists of breaking news and so I was able to.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Confirm I thought Eddie Eddie was coming in with Washington commanders.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
I mean, listen, have agreed to a deal in principle.
What did San Francis go for? Jonas?
Speaker 5 (51:37):
That was a misuse of the breaking news. What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (51:40):
People were waiting to see whether that.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
The only breaking news that we've gotten while doing a
show together is that OJ died. Okay, that was it?
Like that, Like that's the luck this show has. O. J.
Simpson dies and uh we had to you know, break
in and have that conversation about it. And then Joel
played a fart drop on the air that was so grotesque.
My brother texted me and said it was the worst
(52:08):
one ever. He said he was walking through home depot
and he was laughing so hard that people thought he
was weird because he was listening on his AirPod. He
was so inappropriate soun.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
Oj dies.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
People are giving awkward eulogies on sports radio and TV,
and we're playing fart drops on the air while filling
in for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
It was the worst funniest one ever.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
At the same the slappies all the way through.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
I wish we'd I wish we had it still. I mean,
maybe it doesn't hit the same way because now we
would be expecting it.
Speaker 6 (52:48):
But the the unexpected hit and the sound of how wet.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
That I'll tell you I know which show was because
I found the link and sent it to lead you
guys want to play when.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
We come back, like just a little.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Just got to hit us with it when we don't
know though, Like that sounds like a duck. That sounds
(53:23):
like a wet ass fart. Somebody had a whole lot
of gas in.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
Them, a league a wipe.
Speaker 6 (53:29):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
So why would that be in our system?
Speaker 3 (53:39):
The best one ever?
Speaker 4 (53:40):
And what's the title of that OJ's eulogy? Like, what's
the title?
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Fart?
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (53:45):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh no, it's just adults. Adults here, that.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
Awful, awful thing you just said.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
Jus oh, it made its debut after O J died.
I didn't make that up like that happened all the air.
Oh my god, why don't you guys grow up?
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Man?
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Can we do a professional broadcast here? Christ's sake?
Speaker 3 (54:12):
You got something wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Man?
Speaker 6 (54:13):
Me?
Speaker 5 (54:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah, man, yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (54:19):
Well listen.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
I do know this. This is not wrong, because it is.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
It is so good.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Though.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
It is a football Friday. I know that, an actual
football fridayday.
Speaker 12 (54:34):
All right, Well yeah, I'm not sure what the yeah,
I don't I don't want to open them out. Yeah, yeah, Friday,
we got the parts.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Friday, we got the parts out.
Speaker 12 (54:47):
Yeah, come on, Friday night gets football.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Friday night.
Speaker 4 (54:55):
Mile hut stop school, I got my stop high school
football football.
Speaker 5 (55:00):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
Come on, all right, let's let's come come on now,
let's do it, right, come on, Eddie guard, so come on,
let's do it.
Speaker 12 (55:08):
Briday night is a football Briday, football Briday, do it?
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Do it?
Speaker 5 (55:19):
You my god?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
No, more.
Speaker 4 (55:36):
Like they're emptying the fuji
Speaker 6 (55:39):
Like we gotta start dipping and dodging and bobbing and
weeping like something flying at you.
Is the best of two pros and a couple. Joe
with LaVar arrings and rating win and Jonas knocks on
Fox Sports Radio. Is the best of two pros and
a couple. Joe with LaVar arrings and rating win and
Jonas knocks on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
How the hell we feel here in a Monday morning?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Happy Monday? Yeah, hell Monday. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Everybody's fired up?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I mean, why not?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
I mean everybody's excited. I mean, listen, I know you're
excited Jonas well. Look, I'm just glad that we have
a preseason so that we can actually get a glimpse
at some of the talent that takes the field in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
See, this is why I don't write notes.
Speaker 5 (00:53):
What are you talking?
Speaker 6 (00:54):
This is exactly why I don't write joall. This is
why you guys, You know why, because you guys are
going to debate what I say.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So I wait for the show to say what it
is I'm gonna say. I just could not.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
I just my dismay for the preseason and how I
feel about it is so strong that I just decided
to put it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
In knowing, knowing that this was going to lead to.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
You guys debating me in the email and then it
being you, and I knew you were going to like
be like an instant instigator of it as soon as
we got into the show.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
That's why I don't do it, No, because I do,
uh the decision, that's right, That's why I sho the decision.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Well, why do you think it is cute?
Speaker 6 (01:41):
I mean there's there's like it sounds like you guys
have had a conversation about it.
Speaker 7 (01:46):
There could be a marry out of reasons. Doesn't matter
at the end of the day. I guess I'm just
curious because here's the thing is, our audience doesn't understand
why So why do you dislike the NFL preseason so much?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
It's born boring. It's boring, and I think it's a
waste of time outside of outside of it just being
a spectacle to put on television or a spectacle for
the fans to attend. I mean, you could do that
as a practice. It does feel like it's like a practice.
Speaker 7 (02:20):
It does beg the question because it is one thing
where during the summertime, when you're talking to coaching staffs,
and especially talking to coaching staffs in college that have
a big week one matchup.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
One of the.
Speaker 7 (02:34):
Comments that I always make is like, we don't have
a preseason. So when you're going through training camp, like
there's elements of intensity you have to have and you
try to protect players, but you've got to hit, You've
got a bang, you've got a scrimmage, because we might
be opening up Week one with a game that could
ultimately deter our season, like it could help elevate us
(02:56):
and springboard us, it could literally cause us to lapse
where we pros. That pros don't have that, and so
there's an element of, like I understand what you're saying
in the sense of they are meaningless where there's nothing
on the line, like when it's the fourth quarter and
both teams are tie, you know, like it's not like
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any team's really pushing to go get the win.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
One way or another.
Speaker 7 (03:22):
They would like to see their young guys or a
backup or someone go get a win, but at the
end of the day, they just want to get back
on the bus as many healthy players as possible and
make it back home safe.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Like that's the reality.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Of Marvin Harrison Junior made the comment I think last
week where he said, yeah, I wish we did have
a pre like at least one preseason game in college.
Speaker 7 (03:42):
Well, most big schools used to have that because they
have like a cupcake exactly.
Speaker 6 (03:47):
Yeah, I just and listen, I know you you made
the statement, well, what mint you have been able to
win the starting job?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, and my.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
Answer, the answer would be this, I'm messing with you.
The dancer would be yes, because they would have been
warded it to them through practice. That's just do whatever,
no different than they do it in college.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
So wigure you wanted to debate me, But okay, I figured, okay,
I'm glad you were being circled too.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Seriously, We're just sometimes.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I'm so super literal, and sometimes it just depends on
the mood that I'm in. You know, I'm a parent
of five, and and sometimes you can have one of
those days where they pluck your nerves so good that
you don't you're not sure what you know, where you're at,
you know, emotionally so and then throw marriage into that too,
by the way, it could be a part of it.
(04:37):
So it's you, no, don't. No one needs to turn
this into a controversy. You know, I'm not wearing a
packer's jersey or jacket out of Bears game or anything
anything like that.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
There's no controversies.
Speaker 6 (04:50):
I'm just saying it just depends my mood sometimes can
vary depending on you know, what I got going on.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
So see, I thought you were not happy about your
guys a going with minshe as.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Opposed to us.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
No, No, listen, I think he's in a tough position
because he did not get a quarterback. And I think
everyone who's onlooking is probably you don't even have to
be an astute fan or person that understands football. I
think we all know that they don't have a quarterback.
(05:26):
I mean they're going to have to figure it out
with out a quarterback. And listen, I don't want to
sound like because to be a pro quarterback, if you're Minshew,
if you're O'Connell, like God bless, you're in the pros
and you're playing, so you are a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
I don't mean to say it that way, and to
you know, kind of be insulting to the fact that
they've accomplished what they've accomplished.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
I don't want to be dismissive of who they are
as people, because that's wrong, But to the point of
do you have a guy like we we're watching guys
out there playing and listen, I don't I don't pretend
to know if if Caleb Williams is going to be
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the guy, but it damn sure looks like he's going
to be, you know, one of the guys that that
is in this National Football League. And I think you
realize when you don't have a guy like look at
the New York Giants, look no further than the g Men.
If you think that they think they have a guy
at the quarterback position, I would probably debate it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
And again.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
On that point.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
On that point, I do find it interesting how preseason
it could either stoke the fires of expectations for franchises
or boy, it could already start that sea getting hot.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
Really, I mean just to jump on you, but but really,
you can only hurt yourself in preseason.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
That's what I think.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
You can only hurt yourself in preseason, like, cause if
you do well, it's like, oh, it's preseason. You're not
going up against starters, you're not showing anything, it's preseason like,
it doesn't matter. But if you stink it up, if
you stink up preseason, then like Daniel Jones, like people
are jumping all on Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones, Daniel Jones,
Daniel Jones like like all he has done has hurt himself.
(07:30):
Like if he didn't play, if they weren't playing them,
we wouldn't even know to hate him so much or
to not like how he's playing.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
We had still, dude.
Speaker 7 (07:42):
I remember in two thousand and nine and we were
literally in preseason.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
It was Eric Manngini's first year.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Brian Dable was calling plays, and we were running stuff
that like trying to like scheme up, trying to like win,
trying to like look good in preseason. And Week two
we got to Denver and I know this is I
traded there the next year, and we get blown out
by the Broncos, not even I mean, we.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Couldn't do anything offensively. And I remember talking to.
Speaker 7 (08:16):
One of the Broncos dbs and they were like, Bro,
you guys did everything you were doing in preseason like
that like in our game. He's like, we knew everything
you guys were gonna do because y'all didn't change anything.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
It's like, why do you guys do that?
Speaker 8 (08:32):
Go?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
I was like, honestly our coaching staff like wanted to
like really look good in preseason, and so they showed
a lot of concepts.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
They showed a lot of things they were doing.
Speaker 7 (08:42):
And we had a young team that year, so it
wasn't like a lot of new pieces, so it wasn't
like you could adjust and adapt and do a ton
of things. And I just I thought to myself at
that moment, like, yeah, that's the difference. Like when I'm
in year seven when I got to Seattle and that
was a team that ended up going on to win
the Super Bowl. They were just running the vanilla basic
concepts and they you know, a lot oftentimes it was
(09:05):
like if it was man to man, they want you
to go basically find a matchup you like and give
that guy a shot. And then there was actually, in particular,
one moment when we call a time out, Pete Carroll
walks over and I walked over to him and he goes,
what do you think?
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And I was like, I'm gonna throw to so and
so if he's matched up one on.
Speaker 7 (09:22):
One again, and he goes exactly, He's like, that's exactly
what I want you to do.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I go perfect. So we go back out there literally
throw up a bomb to him.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
He ends up catching it for a touchdown, and that
was like, it was such an eye opening difference between
how a team that would eventually move on to win
a Super Bowl wanted to operate, wanted to put guys
in positions to compete, versus a coaching staff that was
just like trying to look good. And so to your point,
like I would actually say, you could there's really no
(09:50):
upside in the sense of if you're a bad football
team that's trying to look good and you do look good,
you kind of set false expectations because a lot of
the teams are looking at the game the same way
you are, and if you do have a four preseason,
it can only then snowball effect. But which it's funny
like the Colts. Remember the Colts Jonas with Peyton, I
(10:12):
want to say, they historically were awful in the preseason
and would always like ball out. Obviously during his time
with the Colts, you could you could check that area,
go back and check that, but I want to say
that was one of the things that I used to
always look at and bring up and be like, the
Colts really never cared that much about preseason. They just
want to get to the regular season healthy and feel
good about where they were at.
Speaker 6 (10:34):
We went undefeated one year, Fave and no Fave and
was a fact. Keep saying fab and think it was
Fave and no.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
We went and the.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Hall of Fame game, then Hall of Fame game. Maybe
it was Osaka. I don't know either was Fave and
no Osaka.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Okay, we went to Ocaca, Japan.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Anyway, Uh, we've won like five games in the regular season.
I mean we went undefeated, whatever the number of games were.
We went undefeated in the preseason with coach spurryor his
first year, and everybody was like he has arrived. He
(11:18):
he has brought that Florida Gators style to the NFL
and it is a raft. I mean, we got to
the regular season and we won five games.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Five Now was that during Like how many rounds of
golf do you think Spurryer got in a week?
Speaker 6 (11:35):
I don't know, but he told you he was hitting there, y'all.
Get in the gym, y'all, y'all, get some some weights in,
you know, Uh, get home, get some rest. I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go hit them greens and.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
A couple of balls. Well, how would players are My
line that.
Speaker 6 (11:54):
I always felt like if we had enough pros, we
would have been a winning team. I just thought we
were young, we were immature, and then I just didn't
think that we handled how how I felt like Steve
Coach Spurrier respected us as pros.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Like he was always like, you know, we're all pros here.
That was his thing.
Speaker 6 (12:16):
He'd always say, we're all pros here, like you know,
it's gonna show. It's gonna show on film. You know,
if you're not there, if you don't end up being here,
it's because you put it on film or you didn't
like we're all pros like hey, And I was, I
was like, man, like, this is the greatest coach ever
of all time. Like I love Coach Spurrier because he
(12:37):
allowed us to be who we wanted to be.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
To a fault, it was to a fault because there
was enough.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
There wasn't enough dudes that like dudes were going to
the club the night before games and stuff like. It
was just bad. It was just a bad environment. But
I mean, I liked him. I thought his his schemes
were were dope. I just we didn't have a quarterback either.
Back to the rich point, we never had a quarterback.
(13:04):
He brought in Shane Matthews, love you bro like Shane
dope dude. Brought in Danny Warfle Love you bro, dope dude.
But we didn't have a guy. We didn't have a
guy at quarterback. We just did not have a guy.
My rookie year, we had two guys and they couldn't
figure it out. North couldn't figure it out. We we
(13:25):
you know, we knows that. I really don't even think
it was that bad. We just didn't have a kicker.
We just we were losing games by like.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
One point like every week.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
But we had Brad Johnson and Jeff George on the
same team and and that you know that didn't even
work out. But you gotta have a guy, man, you
gotta have a guy. And I don't know, I just
think preseason preseason says that that the New York Giants
don't have a guy. Preseason says that that the Las
(13:55):
Vegas Raiders they don't have a guy. I just feel
like you could figure out all of those things. Whatever
you're going to figure out, you can figure it out
in practice.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
All those things you.
Speaker 6 (14:07):
Want to work out on that like you said, trying
to look good in a preseason game versus you know,
getting the reads and different things and the discussion points
from the coach and stuff like that. Like I get
dress rehearsals, so when you have those enter you know,
those those two squad dual squad scrimmages and practices and
(14:27):
stuff like that. I like the idea of that, I
really do. I like the idea of two teams coming together,
practicing together, and then getting out of there instead of
sitting all of the starters or deciding to play a
couple of them, the couple of them get judged. What
(14:48):
if what if one of these other quarterbacks came out?
What if Pat Mahomes didn't do the behind the back?
What if we didn't see Caleb play the way that
he played. Generally speaking, I was thinking this too, and
I was going to ask you this, And I know
we're running a long, well, at least I'm running a
long because I just don't hate I hate the preseason,
But like, when did you make some of your best
(15:09):
play your best football, Your best football came in like
the second quarter or the third quarter of a game
because you were able to get a feel for what
was going on. You got the information. This is what
they're trying to do to me, this is what they're running,
here's here are the adjustments, here's the feel of the game.
Here's a feel of the speed of the game. All
(15:31):
these different elements that go into being able to make plays,
the plays that people want to see. Some of those plays,
some of that solid play a lot of times don't
come until later in the game.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
And if you're only playing one or two series in
a game, you can't.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
For me, I would hate to be judged on one
or two series of a game where it's a game
of getting into the flow of the game, feeling what's
going on in the game, looking at your coaches, looking
at your team, what are they doing out there? What
can we do to be better? Making the just I
just feel like, what is the point of it? And
(16:08):
I'm done, I'm off my soapbox.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Well, I think the quick answer to that is it
used to be kind of the warm up for guys
before the real thing would happen. Obviously, as you know,
I know now, I think it's transitioned to help younger players.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Rookies back into the roster, guys get their shots.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
So I will say this for some of the guys,
and I've always got a soft spot by heart who
weren't going to make it to the regular season roster
some of the last football they may ever play and
in the NFL put it on an NFL uniform, NFL
field and all that. So there's a soft spot in
my heart for those guys. There's a soft spot in
my heart for some of those guys that that might
(16:46):
be the only playing they ever really get and they
bounce around for a few years and that's it. So
I understand it's purpose to your point of you know
how many games and all that, because I think you
maybe called for one preseason game, maybe one or two.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Probably one.
Speaker 7 (17:04):
I think they'll go to two at some point soon
once they go to eighteen. But it, you know, it
does seem like there is some big time downside with
potential injury risk, et cetera. But I look, I know
Jonas loves it because the Bears are hot right now.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Johnny, you've got all the momentum.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
But uh, don't will Williams lighting the world on whatever
you do. Don't you make comparisons because he does not
seem to be a fan of that. We will get
to hear from that and from Cam Williams on all
that coming up here shortly.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
It is maybe it was that he was throwing that day.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
I mean, I don't want to give it away on
the air, but LeVar made a point off the air
which I don't think you can actually say.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Light cron Yes, yeah, yeah, I've said on air. Oh
wow means yeah wow, like Star Wars.
Speaker 6 (17:51):
Yes yeah, well you got you got. It's perfectly like
Star Wars. You got, you got the side, you got
the dark side.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
Wom like squam woh woh wah wah wom womm woh
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Speaker 2 (19:06):
So it is a Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
We've got traditions on the show, and one of those
is the Old pe Petros Papadakas. He is the co
host of the Petros and Money Show, which you can
hear on the Blowtorch, A five seventy LA Sports Fox
college football analyst as well too, and the Old Pee
on X Petros. Good morning, how are we feeling?
Speaker 5 (19:26):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Hello?
Speaker 5 (19:27):
How are you? Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:28):
We're good. I was trying to figure out I thought
we were. We had discussed you getting an intro song
when you come onto the show, but apparently you say
this show's.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
Taste in music is not my taste.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
What do you mean.
Speaker 11 (19:41):
Your show has a terrible taste in music? Damny, I
mean not LeVar. LeVar knows I want to be loved by.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Bo I get it.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
I get it, a couple of white hum of white guys, but.
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Yeah, you you dressed like you are in a Motorhead
cover band. And then Brady's Brady stood every song and
I imagine da He's gonna get all defensive and imagine
Dragons concert. So it's very difficult for all of them, right,
you know, and probably Zach Bryan and a bunch of
other stuff, so it's hard.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I like Zach Bryan though, is.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
Zach Brian or Luke Bryan?
Speaker 3 (20:15):
I don't know the dude is Zach Bryan.
Speaker 11 (20:17):
Yeah, the white dudes with the trucker hats, that's and
all the girls. And I don't know if I made
this point on the show, but I don't go out much,
as you guys know. I'm a bit of an agora phobe.
I get nervous and anxious if I'm out. And I
used to go to concerts a lot, Like I used
to go to a concert every night when I lived,
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not every night, maybe four or five nights a week
when I lived right, I lived in LA and I
would go to the little venues. I'd go to the Troubadour,
or I'd go to the Echo Plex or the Smell
Downtown or the Knitting Factory when it was opening all
these places, and I would see all kinds of crazy shows.
The music scene in a big city, for shows like
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that at places like that is really great. But anyway,
a couple months ago, I got back on my horse
and went to a show and I stood there at
the Wilturn Theater and I just could not believe how
miserable and ugly all the people that go to the
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music shows that I like are, you know, as opposed
to like who is his Zach, Brian Luke, Brian Colmb's
jelly roll whatever, all these country guys are. Where the
Kansas City Chiefs show up. Every one of those shows
has like thirty billion hot chicks with huge missile boobs yea,
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wearing nothing, Yeah you know what I mean, like like
jeans and are all torn up that are all the
way up there there crack, just huge, just bobling boots.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Yeah, it's a Zeppelin party, right.
Speaker 11 (22:04):
It's yeah, it's warheads, you know, it's like Ukraine versus
Russia cans and and then I look around at my
shows and it's all like purple haired chicks with huge eyebrows,
and I'm just like what you know, Why why is
everybody that likes the music? Why does having good taste
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in music come along with being so miserable, so sad
and so ugly? And you know, I'm miserable, sad and
ugly too. It's not like I'm any better than that.
And then the worse than that, I'm old. So it's terrible.
But yeah, I did notice that about me. Having good
taste in music means you get to be around good
looking people. I guess I mean bad taste in music.
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That means good looking people. Good taste in music equals misery, sadness,
and a general feeling of unhappiness and discontent.
Speaker 7 (22:59):
It's all almost here though. We got a week zero
this week college football.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
I mean, come on, you gotta let's go.
Speaker 5 (23:09):
I can't believe I can't believe this.
Speaker 11 (23:12):
My uh my mic is working because my internet's down
at the house, so technically I shouldn't even be on
right now, but I was.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I would look aside from the football, God's petrick right.
Speaker 11 (23:22):
I would look up the week zero schedule right now
if I could.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I want to stage Georgia Tech. We got that in Dublin, Ireland.
Speaker 11 (23:31):
All right, that's the Brady Quinton Bowl. Why why does
anybody care about what happens in.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
Ireland if Notre Dame's not playing?
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Agreed there, It's it's really the country itself is trying
to make this an annual thing as they try to
grow the sport of American football. So it's it's it's
kind of their initiative they've got going on. It's cool, man,
I would say any school that's looking at doing it,
you got to sacrifice a home game, but it makes
a lot of sense.
Speaker 11 (23:56):
Many at Georgia Tech right or of State in twenty
twenty four you could say, yeah, I went to Dublin
with my team and that's pretty.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
Cool, right, Petros, what are your thoughts on Montana State,
New Mexico for Eastern.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Time on FS one, that's the Tim Brando game. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Nice, that's the Tim.
Speaker 11 (24:15):
Brando Devon Gardner debut. Because they hired Devon Gardner, the
great Michigan quarterback, to work with Timmy B. And I
guess Spencer, Yeah, Spencer, he moved to a different crew, oh.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Man, Him and Timmy B had a good time in
the booth all the time.
Speaker 11 (24:32):
Maybe too good a time, perhaps, Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Maybe that's what I don't know. You know, everything must change,
winter turns the spring. Everybody's a milk carton. We all
have an expiration date.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Some milk gardens.
Speaker 11 (24:46):
I'm interested in New Mexico because I sat with Bronco
Mendenhall over the summer and it was like sitting with
Aristotle or something.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
Not very football coachee, but very very interesting.
Speaker 11 (25:01):
And a guy who's been at BYU and obviously at
Virginia and now at New Mexico, which is kind of
like a last chance you situation, and it has been
for a little.
Speaker 5 (25:13):
Bit of a while, and Rocky Long really actually made
New Mexico football relevant.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Long.
Speaker 11 (25:21):
Yeah, that that extra the extra safety, that wacky defense
that they ran, and then they brought in a guy
that ran it under him in Danny Rodriguez, and it
just didn't work out.
Speaker 5 (25:36):
So now they got Bronco.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
So I am interested in that game actually because I
sat with Bronco and they said they're going to be
a lot better SMU.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Nevada.
Speaker 11 (25:46):
Okay, I'm interested in Nevada because they hired they hired
a coach from Texas, the defensive coordinator at Texas. His
name is choat. Yeah, and I was. I sat with
him too, and I was impressed with him.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Uh do you know where he was born?
Speaker 5 (26:07):
Choke? Yeah, Dublin, Ohio.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Baby Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
What's the connection.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's where I was born? Oh no, I was born
the same hospital.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
She How about that?
Speaker 11 (26:22):
My wife and I were born in the same hospital
about a month apart.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
That's pretty interesting.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
That's the chances of that didn't mean till college.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
That's pretty crazy. Her dad, you know, in the little
baby room.
Speaker 5 (26:35):
Well maybe, yeah, Well I don't know.
Speaker 11 (26:36):
I wasn't there for a month, jeez, Brady, Like I
was a kid with a big tube stuck up his note.
Speaker 7 (26:43):
Maybe she was still there waiting on you. Maybe this
is like one of those those rob columns we could
come up with a script for.
Speaker 11 (26:48):
It's San Pedro, California. Your dad was in the Navy,
that's all m okay. But yeah, you're right, you know,
maybe they took me back for jaundice or something like, Oh,
but yes, I haven't sit in the back as well. Hey,
this kid looks like a minion.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Can we get him another two.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Number?
Speaker 6 (27:11):
They named their quarterback long Yeah, Miller Moss. How you
feel about hell, yeah, how you feel about this team?
Speaker 5 (27:18):
Well, I don't know.
Speaker 11 (27:19):
I don't know, but Miller Moss was kind of the
guy that was going to get the job.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Anyway.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
They brought in a guy named Jaden Mayava from UNLV. Yeah,
who started most of his freshman year and led one
of the great UNLV seasons at least in recent memory,
like twenty thirty years, and then he took money to
be a backup at SC. Miller Moss had a great
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performance in the Holiday Bowl against Louisville. Yeah, without without
Caleb Williams just running around like a chicken with his
head cut off, the offense kind of ran on time
and it seemed like a real breath of fresh air
for the team. I don't know how that translates to
Lincoln Riley Collin plays on time all year in twenty
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twenty four without more of a freelance style quarterback. Spectacular,
but freelance and us He's got their defensive problems, they
had their identity problems. But it's got to be remembered
that USC went seven and seven in Caleb Williams last
fourteen games, and we're just we're talking about one of
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the great quarterback prospects in a long time consensus number
one pick, and they were five hundred. Not in the big, tough,
angry big ten. That's going to knock the hair off
their puzzo.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
But that's right.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
But in the Pac twelve, damn they were seven and
seven and there's a loss to tu Lane in there.
Speaker 5 (28:49):
So if Caleb.
Speaker 11 (28:50):
Williams can't lead you under Lincoln Riley to a victory consistently,
what can Miller Moss do? Maybe he can do more,
I don't know. Maybe the new defensive identity of USC's
football team, at least with the coaching staff they hired
and Doug Belk and Matt Enttz and Deanton Lynn the coordinator,
maybe they can do a lot better job.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
But I don't.
Speaker 11 (29:14):
I have absolutely no idea what Lincoln Riley is going
to look like without Caleb Williams on the West coast
and what his team will be like without his air
raid defensive staff that he brought in for the last
three years or two years.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
So that part of it, that part of it is
a real mystery. They play Utah State.
Speaker 11 (29:38):
In there early, but they have to go to this
LSU game, and some LSU media thing reached out to
me this week and was like, you know, can we
get a comment about these two great programs taking on
each other? And I was like, yeah, it's great to
see LSU playing a game against anybody west of the
mississipp No, right, but that's just west of the When
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was the last time LSU played anybody west of the Mississippi?
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Right?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
If that's if that's all you're capping it off.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
I mean, no, no, I'm just saying it doesn't happen
much to see a great program like that out here.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
They just don't do it.
Speaker 11 (30:14):
I remember Georgia came out when they had Matt Stafford,
for God's sakes, to play against Arizona State, and it's
a big deal. So for those of us it's always
don't get all east coast in and get your blood up, Brady.
I'm just saying it's a big deal when they come
west to the Mississippi. Awkward is that USC spent the
whole offseason trying to get out of the game. And
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that's a Fox versus ESPN kind of thing. But I mean,
what's LSU going to be like? They'll they'll be without
their quarterback that ran around and did everything for them
for the last couple of years.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Ryan Kelly will be with his family. He ain't done
winning yet.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
You mean the commodore Colonel Kelly.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
Yes, I was there family and the second manassas we
took bull Run.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
We ain't done winning yet.
Speaker 5 (31:06):
I look forward to seeing what they're going to be like.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
But I have no real prediction other than you know,
eight wins is a good season. I guess the main
event for LSU or Southern col For Southern Col, I
don't think much about Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
I work at Fox Damneez.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
Other than Commodore Kelly.
Speaker 11 (31:28):
By the way, Patrish, it took me like six months
to be like, really, that kid in Arizona State's gonna
win the Heisman?
Speaker 5 (31:34):
All right? I guess I'll look uh So.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
The main event for week zero is the Hawaii Rainbow
Warriors hosting powerhouse Delaware State, and Hawaii's a thirty nine
point favorite.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
Dude. I like Hawaii to take it to UCLA in
week one.
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Yes, game under their belt? Why not?
Speaker 11 (31:51):
Timmy Chang, ladies and gentlemen double fisting tall boys?
Speaker 5 (31:55):
Yeah, look out.
Speaker 11 (31:56):
Let me tell you about my conversation with Timmy Chang
in Vegas. Why head coach, I said, Coach, tell me,
do you get the support that you need from the
school and the community.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
And he said, frankly, Petros, no, we don't.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I mean what gave it away that they tore the
stadium down.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I mean it fits like three thousand people.
Speaker 11 (32:25):
Delaware State is not the Blue Hens, though, Delaware is
the Blue Hens. And well LeVar knows all about it
because that's his territory. Flacco, right, was a blue hand
and Rich, Yes, what's Delaware State?
Speaker 4 (32:49):
I I'm looking at the hornets, the Delaware State hornets
like Sack.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
State, all right, yeah, you don't mess with that.
Speaker 5 (32:59):
No, nobody to get stung by a hornet on the balls,
so you.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Know they can keep stinging you too.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Yeah, like not like a bee, like they die.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
Yeah, they have the blue Shoes stinger all right.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
Yeah, it stays hard and fresh, damn right. Yeah. All right.
Speaker 11 (33:17):
So I don't know what LSU is going to be like,
I'm vaguely familiar with what USC will be.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Like. Can I ask you general question, Petros?
Speaker 5 (33:26):
I mean that's why I'm here.
Speaker 7 (33:28):
Well, I'm just saying, like, in regards to preseason rankings,
do you feel like they're necessary?
Speaker 3 (33:33):
No, do you Are you a fan of it? Are
you not?
Speaker 5 (33:35):
I think we talked about this a little bit last week.
Speaker 11 (33:37):
They hurt teams that are not ranked that end up
being great, right, You end up having to climb and
climb and climb, and people forget about you, and it
takes months and months to be legitimate. Now in the
current model, with all these playoff teams, I guess it
doesn't really matter. And even with TCU a few years back,
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with only a fourteen playoff, it didn't really matter, right.
They kept winning week after week until somebody woke up
and paid attention and everybody was like, oh my god,
TCU's going to go to the playoff, and they did
so and they won a game. So yeah, I guess
it doesn't hurt you as bad as you think, but
it just media wise, it confuses people because perennially every
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year there's two or three teams in the top ten
that finish unranked, like USC last year with the greatest
quarterback on the history of the game who started every game,
and they still finished the season on rank. So that
part of it bothers me a little bit, But I'm
way past the You have to have the little number
next to the logo to watch the game kind of thing,
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you know what I mean, I feel like that's a
real lazy way to watch college football and college basketball.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
That must be a lazy mother effort. Boy.
Speaker 11 (34:55):
Well, I mean, I look where that number. But we're
all conditioned for that. That's what we're conditioned to do.
And it's wrong. I mean, but you always do want
the best games.
Speaker 6 (35:06):
In the rank, right, But I feel like that's exactly
what you just said.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
I feel like it.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
Tells me like if it was a team that isn't
necessarily on my radar, like okay, this team is right, like, yeah,
lost this game.
Speaker 11 (35:20):
Five star recruit thing, you know, like every five star
recruit nothing pan out, But the more five star recruits
that you bring in, more likely it is you probably
be a pretty good football.
Speaker 5 (35:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (35:32):
You know, well that's well, you know, but part of
that is a hype train too, you know, And that's
why the whole five star recruit thing is is fools gold.
And that's why, you know, sometimes the rankings are fools gold.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
But he's still at USC.
Speaker 5 (35:46):
No, he went to Boise State. He just lost the job.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
Okay, that's why he just lost the job.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
So he lost the job to a short, fat guy.
Speaker 11 (35:53):
Oh Madden, Yeah, Madson Maddox. Madson has some little, short
fat guy who a little bit last year. But I mean,
that's one of those interesting things. You're talking about. A
guy who's a big recruit out of high school and
he got almost three hundred thousand dollars to never really
take a snap at SC and then he enters the
portal and because he was a five star recruited se
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even though he didn't win a job to save his life,
even though they wanted him to beat out Miller Moss,
he was their bigger recruit, didn't win a job to
save his life. Six foot five, kind of slow twitch.
The arm didn't develop into the wild, crazy arm talent
that everybody predicted. I'm not saying he can't be a
good college quarterback or beyond, but he gets paid again
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off that hype at Boise State, probably another few hundred
thousand dollars, and he's sitting on a pile of cash
to never play and get beat out twice at least
so far. So that's modern college football. And I guess
that's a way to ride the rankings and get paid
without ever actually proving it.
Speaker 5 (36:56):
But the teams have to prove it, LeVar.
Speaker 11 (36:58):
They're going to have to play even if Malachi doesn't.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Petros, do you know your schedule for calling games yet
or how I have a week one?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Okay, what are we looking at?
Speaker 11 (37:09):
I got Wyoming, which who I like, and Arizona Boy,
Arizona State, who's.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
Picked to be last in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
I was just gonna ask you, how do you think
they'll be this year? How will they fend well.
Speaker 5 (37:21):
That I looked at?
Speaker 11 (37:21):
I mean I did a couple of their games early
last year, and they got beat in a They got
beat in a tussle with Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State ended
up being really good or a lot better than we thought,
at least under Mike Dundy, and then they got ass
handed to them by Fresno State, who was much more
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complete top to bottom football team. They were devastated up
front and a lot of problems. They certainly looked like
a much deeper team. They brought in the Michigan State
quarterback transfer Sam Levitt, who I believe is going to
be their starter. So Arizona stage, I mean, there's be
very hard to say they're not going to be improved.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
But Wyoming is pretty.
Speaker 11 (38:06):
Tough on all levels top to bottom with that North
Dakota State style pedigree that Craig Bowl left for Jay Savel.
Speaker 5 (38:13):
So we'll see what it's like. But anyway, I'm looking
at it.
Speaker 2 (38:15):
I'm working nice get him on Twitter or x.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
But anybody cares. There's no little ranking by those teams,
and we'll be watching.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
I won't be watching.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
He is the co host of the Petro Some Money
Show on the Blowtorch A five seventy l A Sports Fox.
Speaker 5 (38:31):
Time is that state game?
Speaker 4 (38:33):
I don't know, Noon Eastern, Come on Big Noon Kickoff baby, Yeah, story.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Be in Morgantown. Yeah, I will be watching Q. I'll watch.
I always watched the Big New I mean your part
watching the Penn State game too.
Speaker 11 (38:48):
I have I think I have a Little Noon in
a couple of weeks. You know what Little Moon is.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
What's that?
Speaker 5 (38:53):
That's the f S one noon game.
Speaker 11 (38:56):
You got Big Noon on Fox eleven and Little Noon
on FF Little.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
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Speaker 4 (39:12):
I would also like to point this out just to
get ahead of this before anybody else wants to attempt
to go there this weekend for you candy asses that
are going to diminish the fact that we've got Week
zero football and it's like less than Week one football
this weekend. Screw you go do what nerds do and
leave real sports and real football to the rest of us.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Here we decide for real football. Yeah we are.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yeah, we are such a statement right there, thick of
this man.
Speaker 7 (39:42):
Good part is if you notice what the NFL has
kind of done. The NFL is even starting to kind
of encroach on the college football schedule and trying to
make sure they know, like, hey.
Speaker 3 (39:53):
Where were the big brother here? Okay, you do what
we say to do. So I would not be shocked
if we zero doesn't become Week one.
Speaker 7 (40:01):
Yeah, as things continue on, like, I think that's where
it's all going. And so if you're not used to it,
you better get used to it, because some of your
the best teams are gonna be playing their Week one
matchup in a Week zero. It's just gonna become the
new Week one in essence.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
I mean, some would argue the fact Hawaii's playing is
the best teams, like one of the best teams.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
I don't know that anyone.
Speaker 7 (40:22):
Would argue that, but I do appreciate that Hawaii's playing
a week zero.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Now, are you good about it?
Speaker 4 (40:27):
Are you gonna get that in at eleven fifty nine
pm Eastern time? Are you gonna watch opening kickoff for
Hawaii coming up tomorrow night into Sunday morning? Braden Quinn
or what.
Speaker 3 (40:36):
I'm sure gonna try. Yeah, I'm sure gonna try.
Speaker 2 (40:38):
It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Man.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
Well here's what else is fun. We've got moving and
shaking in the NFL, and the Washington Commandos takes center stage.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Why would they do this?
Speaker 2 (40:50):
John Dotson A we are alum?
Speaker 3 (40:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Man up and vanished like a fart in the wind.
He and a fifth round pick go to the Eagles
for a third round pick and two seven and round
picks in the twenty twenty five draft. So Philly gets
a wide receiver three he'll go along with AJ Brown
and DeVante Smith after. You know, Dotson had a little
bit of a step back last year. I don't know
if that's on him necessarily as opposed to whatever the
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hell else was going on there in Washington, But nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Clearly they weren't impressed. That was not impressed.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
Trade him inside the division?
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Is that?
Speaker 6 (41:25):
I mean he does let him go inside the division
that you have? I mean, I don't know they made
it a trend because there was another Penn Stater that
was inside the division that ended up in Philly as well.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Yeah, I don't know. You know, one man's treasure or
one man's trash is another man's treasure. Oh he's not trash, damn.
Speaker 6 (41:44):
I mean to let him go like that, they must
not have They must not think too highly of him.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
My guy. You know, maybe I think that's trash at all.
I like, I sure do. I think he really rouds
out their wide receiver group.
Speaker 7 (41:56):
And I think what's more interesting is, you know, they
had a couple of draft this year, granted in the
fifth and sixth round. I know sometimes we say that,
you know, we act like, you know, you know, they
should be able to those guys should be able to
make the roster. But the reality is they've they've got
some draft picks, some guys who they they took in
some spots. And I thought, you know, Johnny Wilson, who's gigantic.
(42:21):
He's a big body, target kid out of Florida State.
I thought he would be a guy that might make
the roster.
Speaker 3 (42:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (42:28):
Now you got Aniah Smith, who was extremely productive during
his time at Texas and m I really liked him
coming out of college.
Speaker 3 (42:36):
He was a fifth round pick.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
And then you've got guys like Paris Campbell, who was
a veteran John Roster who was trying to make a comeback.
Really interesting story, but remember he used to have the
fastest forty yard dash time. And if you think about it,
like those four guys amongst probably three others that are
on the roster, they're fighting for two spots. Like there's
no guarantee past five roster spots at the active roster
(43:00):
for the wide receiver position because when you trade for
Dotson like that, like he's on it.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
And obviously you have Demante Smith and AJ Brown.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
So this is the time of year where you see
something like that happen at the end of preseason, you
go ooh, it's not so much that Washington didn't even
like what they saw a dots Andy. Maybe they didn't,
you know may maybe they said he's probably not gonna
make our roster. It's not gonna be a big part
of the plan. But Philly's looking at what they have
and they're saying the same thing about their guys and
(43:28):
so like when they're bringing a dots and they're like, no, no, no,
we've played against this guy.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
We think we can make him special.
Speaker 7 (43:34):
So once again, I feel like Howie roseman Man puts
together a roster unlike any other.
Speaker 3 (43:41):
And I can kind of understand why.
Speaker 7 (43:46):
The media or the fans there in Philly, you know,
could look at Jalen Hurts and they had to have
huge expectations because who else has this like bounty of
riches to throw to hand off to to protect him
and then a def that should be improved, like it's
it's just rare to find.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
That consistently NFL. But he's had that. It's been the starter.
Speaker 6 (44:07):
Yeah, Philly is uh you want to talk about going
all in? I mean they have a basically an all
star right roster, right, I mean that could that could
be a team that's.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
Full of Pro bowlers, like full of them.
Speaker 6 (44:27):
And and that's man, I'll tell you what for for
anyone to think that it was a runaway for Dallas
to win the NFC East this year this season, which
I think Dallas will be good. They will be formidable,
and probably I don't I don't know what the odds
makers say, but they're probably the ones that were the
(44:47):
odds on favor to win the East. I think I
think Philly's going to be a problem, man, I mean,
how are they not? If Jalen Hurts is healthy and
I'm not sure how how unhealthy he was last season.
I think that played a major part and why he
wasn't as effective as he could have.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Been last season.
Speaker 6 (45:09):
But if he can be, you know, maintain his health
this year, Philly is going to be I mean, they
might be right back in it and right back in
the Super Bowl. It could be another rematch of I
thought thought it might have been last year. Could be
this year where it's the Eagles and uh and what
the Chiefs that the end up back in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (45:32):
I would be mad at it.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Let me throw a possibility, you guys from the Washington standpoint, Yeah,
I mean, this does open up the potential of maybe
Brandon Ayuk. I'm just listening. He and Jade Daniels have
a close relationship. He was on the list of teams
that Brandon Ayuk would have been interested in. You've got
(45:54):
Adam Peters there in Washington who spent years in San Francisco.
Speaker 2 (45:59):
The office know each other.
Speaker 4 (46:01):
No, I'm just saying, like there is it does feel
like this would open up the potential for that to happen,
and maybe this is this is something that could be
lining up here.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
They didn't get better.
Speaker 6 (46:12):
I mean, I like, I like Luke McCaffrey, but kind
of a relatively unknown.
Speaker 4 (46:17):
Yeah off top Brady, Yeah, I mean, but.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
He comes from great stock. I mean, you can't what's
that supposed to be? We got all of a sudden
put an asterisk next to it.
Speaker 4 (46:27):
What is the what is the well poisoned for us?
Speaker 3 (46:30):
What's going on you? J Brady? Brady's okay, what are
you talking about?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
We got Tyrone's in our family.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 6 (46:37):
And and Mondevus Angloine de Mele, Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
That's true. I can't I can't argue you there.
Speaker 6 (46:46):
Well back to my original point, what you got Diyami Brown?
Like he's a little guy, maybe like a slat guy.
You know, I don't know. They didn't get better by
making that move. So so to say what you just said,
although I'll say it seems late in the game. I
wouldn't be met or shocked or surprised if they made
(47:09):
a play for for our U. I would not mean
because there is the affinity for one another, back to
to the A s U days, there's a familiarity between them.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
Did we lose that drop that we used to play?
We don't have that anyone.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
What do you mean the uh? Oh that guy that's
still currently with the Yeah, that one.
Speaker 5 (47:32):
Good.
Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah. Uh you know, shift turnover, you know what happens.
Speaker 5 (47:42):
But I mean that.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
Turns it out? Doesn't it immediately? Doesn't it immediately turn.
Speaker 5 (47:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (47:52):
Doesn't that immediately turn.
Speaker 6 (47:54):
Into one of the most potentially formidable receiving in the
league if they get it used to go with with with.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
McLaurin, m Yeah, it would be I'm gonna be up there.
Speaker 4 (48:09):
It's still it's still still not Philly with Dotson and A. J.
Brown and DeVante Smith. But but that's a lot. That's
just a lot. And they got a tight end. That's
a lot, man.
Speaker 6 (48:20):
But I'm just saying, you're still looking at one of
that that turns into a very very dynamic duo of
of receivers.
Speaker 3 (48:28):
If they were able to pull that off.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Because they did not make their their team better by
letting Johanne go, because that would have been your one
two that's your one two punch. So if you're letting
him go and you did get a little bit of
draft capital, a little bit, I mean, what what do
you say, two third rounders?
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, it's a third to fifth or something third, something
to that effect.
Speaker 4 (48:54):
Yeah, we've got a third round pick and two seventh
round picks, so basically a third round pick and two
basically a third round pick, two pennies you would find
in a fountain outside of car wash.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
Do they have do they have the space?
Speaker 6 (49:08):
Do they have the cap space to give a UK,
Because if there's a team that would be willing to
do it, even with this new ownership group, that I mean,
that would be the.
Speaker 3 (49:17):
Team to do it.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
Off the top of my head, I think they're top
three in cap space. I think I remember seeing that.
I think it was them in Chicago and and one.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
So they could do it. That was interesting to start events.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
I think I saw that recently their.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Fourth the fourth at San Francisco, New England, Detroit. So
none of the teams that you mentioned besides Washington good
I'll tell you yes, as of right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Second, let me let me look that up. I'll get
on this right here.
Speaker 3 (49:48):
It makes a ton of sense. I mean it would be.
Speaker 6 (49:54):
It would be a blockbuster move and a good one,
the right one. If that's why they blew you know,
docs and out, that would make a lot of sense. Yeah,
as it stands right now, it doesn't make a lot
of sense.
Speaker 7 (50:09):
What doesn't make a lot of sense is if you
do have forty nine million in cap space, if you
are the San Francisco forty nine ers, and that is
the most as of right now heading into twenty twenty four,
why they wouldn't do the deal? Like, I mean, I
know you're gonna have to sign perty at some point
in the future, but I mean, you've got forty nine
(50:29):
to work with this year?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
What are we doing?
Speaker 6 (50:36):
I hope they pulled that off for the fans. Shouts
up to the fans, Man, shouts out to the commanders. Fans, dope, fans.
They have endured. Boy, but.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Oh what breaking.
Speaker 4 (50:50):
News from Fox Sports. I can confirm Niners, Patriots, Lions,
and Washington Commandos as the top four with available collary
cap space.
Speaker 2 (51:01):
I just want to get that out there.
Speaker 6 (51:02):
Guys, I thought we had called.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
It that drop.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
Just for that, I just want to let you know
I was on it.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
And by the way, the Bears are middle of the pack.
They're actually sixteenth this first cap space.
Speaker 4 (51:13):
You know, back back in the day, about two months ago,
they were near the top.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
So yeah, but before the off season started, all that changed.
Speaker 4 (51:21):
Listen. It's not official until I was able to listen
lists of breaking news and so I was able to.
Speaker 6 (51:26):
Confirm I thought Eddie Eddie was coming in with Washington commanders.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
I mean, listen, have agreed to a deal in principle.
What did San Francis go for? Jonas?
Speaker 5 (51:37):
That was a misuse of the breaking news. What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (51:40):
People were waiting to see whether that.
Speaker 3 (51:44):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 2 (51:45):
Let's be honest.
Speaker 4 (51:46):
The only breaking news that we've gotten while doing a
show together is that OJ died. Okay, that was it?
Like that, Like that's the luck this show has. O. J.
Simpson dies and uh we had to you know, break
in and have that conversation about it. And then Joel
played a fart drop on the air that was so grotesque.
My brother texted me and said it was the worst
(52:08):
one ever. He said he was walking through home depot
and he was laughing so hard that people thought he
was weird because he was listening on his AirPod. He
was so inappropriate soun.
Speaker 5 (52:24):
Oj dies.
Speaker 4 (52:25):
People are giving awkward eulogies on sports radio and TV,
and we're playing fart drops on the air while filling
in for Dan Patrick.
Speaker 3 (52:34):
It was the worst funniest one ever.
Speaker 2 (52:37):
At the same the slappies all the way through.
Speaker 3 (52:41):
I wish we'd I wish we had it still. I mean,
maybe it doesn't hit the same way because now we
would be expecting it.
Speaker 6 (52:48):
But the the unexpected hit and the sound of how wet.
Speaker 4 (52:52):
That I'll tell you I know which show was because
I found the link and sent it to lead you
guys want to play when.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
We come back, like just a little.
Speaker 3 (53:03):
Just got to hit us with it when we don't
know though, Like that sounds like a duck. That sounds
(53:23):
like a wet ass fart. Somebody had a whole lot
of gas in.
Speaker 4 (53:27):
Them, a league a wipe.
Speaker 6 (53:29):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (53:34):
So why would that be in our system?
Speaker 3 (53:39):
The best one ever?
Speaker 4 (53:40):
And what's the title of that OJ's eulogy? Like, what's
the title?
Speaker 3 (53:44):
Fart?
Speaker 4 (53:44):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (53:45):
Very good.
Speaker 2 (53:45):
Oh no, it's just adults. Adults here, that.
Speaker 3 (53:50):
Awful, awful thing you just said.
Speaker 8 (53:53):
Jus oh, it made its debut after O J died.
I didn't make that up like that happened all the air.
Oh my god, why don't you guys grow up?
Speaker 5 (54:06):
Man?
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Can we do a professional broadcast here? Christ's sake?
Speaker 3 (54:12):
You got something wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (54:13):
Man?
Speaker 6 (54:13):
Me?
Speaker 5 (54:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (54:15):
Yeah, man, yeah, you.
Speaker 5 (54:19):
Well listen.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
I do know this. This is not wrong, because it is.
Speaker 5 (54:28):
It is so good.
Speaker 3 (54:29):
Though.
Speaker 4 (54:30):
It is a football Friday. I know that, an actual
football fridayday.
Speaker 12 (54:34):
All right, Well yeah, I'm not sure what the yeah,
I don't I don't want to open them out. Yeah, yeah, Friday,
we got the parts.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Friday, we got the parts out.
Speaker 12 (54:47):
Yeah, come on, Friday night gets football.
Speaker 5 (54:53):
Friday night.
Speaker 4 (54:55):
Mile hut stop school, I got my stop high school
football football.
Speaker 5 (55:00):
Let's do it.
Speaker 3 (55:01):
Let's do it.
Speaker 6 (55:02):
Come on, all right, let's let's come come on now,
let's do it, right, come on, Eddie guard, so come on,
let's do it.
Speaker 12 (55:08):
Briday night is a football Briday, football Briday, do it?
Speaker 3 (55:18):
Do it?
Speaker 5 (55:19):
You my god?
Speaker 3 (55:29):
No, more.
Speaker 4 (55:36):
Like they're emptying the fuji
Speaker 6 (55:39):
Like we gotta start dipping and dodging and bobbing and
weeping like something flying at you.
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