August 29, 2024 • 32 mins
The Patriots name their starting QB. Deshaun Watson gets restructures. TheMMQB’s Albert Breer puts a bow on the preseason. Plus, “You In or Out?”
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and
myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays
six to nine am Eastern or three am to six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your
local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream
(00:20):
us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well listen. It is Two Pros and a Cup of
Here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Touch with you. Doing it all live from the tire
rack dot Com studios tiraq dot com. We'll help you
get there, an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road
as a protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers tirac
dot com the way tire buying should be. We open
(00:55):
up the show to discuss college football. It is here,
it is back. It all starts tonight. We've got a
bunch of college football games taking place tonight all through
the weekend. The big one on Fox will be North
Carolina and Minnesota you got coach Prime and Colorado playing.
You got number twelve Utah, who's gonna be taken on
(01:15):
Southern Utah. A lot of these are gonna be blowouts,
but look, we're gonna get we should get some interesting games.
You know, North Carolina Minnesota is projected to be I
think Minnesota favored by a point and a half, or
I could have that right, that could be North Carolina.
In North Carolina's favored by a point and a half
in some places. So we do have at least some
(01:36):
potential for good matchups here to open up the season
in college football. So your eyes are not deceiving you.
If people look around and realize, oh, is that actual
college football on my screen? Yes it is, and it's
on Fox at eight eastern time, five Pacific. Coming up later.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There's a bunch of games on tonight, but I was
gonna say that's one I'm really curious to watch. The
other one's gonna be called out of North North Dakota State.
You got that at eight pm Eastern time, five o'clock Pacific.
I don't even know why I'm saying that, but it's
that's gonna be fun to watch. Missouri's playing Murray State.
Not that that should be competitive. I think the line's
(02:14):
like forty seven and a half points. But Miszoo really
finished on a high note last year, and that's a
team to keep an eye if you're interested in kind
of how the SEC is gonna shake out. Missoo will
be in the mix. There's no doubt they've got the
best wide receiver in the country. And Luther Burden the
third he's a dynamic player. He should be a ton
of fun to watch in the first quarter of this one.
(02:36):
I don't imagine he's gonna play much after the first quarter,
maybe into the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
By the way, you see, you can get into an
Eastern Illinois Illinois game tonight.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
For two dollars. Can you really two dollars?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You need to get on a flight and go back,
go to Champagne, go back, get back there.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
By the way, you know, who's two sons play for Illinois.
Who's that Owlin Cruiz? Both his boys play for Illinois.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
They're getting getting fired up for that game at State College.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The other one is the return of Cam Rising.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
All that's right, taking on.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Sam Rising, taken on Southern Utah, it's right. I think rising.
Is he going to seventh year? Did I read that right?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He's old. Yeah, he's fun to watch, though. I was
already traded to the Denver Broncos by this point in time.
That's why I had a conversation with someone yesterday about
this and they're like, oh, so and so is a
belt ready to go fourth on the old time. I'm like, well, yeah,
he's gotten seven years of eligibility to do it. I'm like,
you know, some people were already in the NFL by now,
(03:36):
like why are we Why are we keeping stats? And
we're letting guys accumulate seven years of stats while in
college football it's like shouldn't At some point you kind
of go, yeah, there's an asterisk next to this, or
maybe there's a cutoff where, like I still look at
was it Michael James for Oregon?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Look at that?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Was that the three year span he had rushing in
the PAC twelve or maybe in PAC ten? You know,
back then he was incredible, I mean absolutely incredible as
far as the production that he had and had it rolling.
I mean again, you go back to guys like you know,
Barry Sanders in the day and so forth, and now
you see guys who do you know they rush for
(04:16):
a bunch of yards. Are like, well, they played fifteen games,
like a little different than when when guys were playing
back in the day and they played for six or
seven years. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
At this point, cam Raising's twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm not lying. I've literally gotten played three seasons in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
By now, I mean he uh the prior to the
eight oh five, by the way, Newberry Park, Newberry Park
High School, he had the Panthers. Uh, So we get
to watch him come back and return because he had
a he could he he could have come back last year, right,
and he opted to just sit out the entire year
so that we had another year of eligibility.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So this would be because the met he had a met,
he was going to be able to apply for a
medical red shirt, which I don't know that he would
have been one hundred percent by the time the season began.
So I think the thought was, let's try to play
this into another year where you're fully one hundred percent healthy,
give yourself every opportunity to improve your draft stock, you know,
help Utah win in this case now a Big twelve championship.
(05:14):
Try to go for a national championship. So look, Utah
is the favorite of the Big Twelve, as they should be.
You know, Kyle Whitningham's done a tremendous job creating one
of the more consistent programs you'll find in college football.
I mean, you know what their identity is, and Cam
Rising is the guy that brings a special element of
playmaking about at the quarterback spot, but elevates their passing
(05:35):
game to one that if they do get in the
playoff they will be a tough team to play. And
if they host a home playoff game, that's a nasty
place to go man, having to deal with the must there.
Their student body is one of the better that you'll
find in college football.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Iagine LeVar at twenty four to twenty five in college
just sand blasted.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He would be murdering people like they would literally probably
go down on the field and have to rest them
like this, This shouldn't happen.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The paramedics sort of out.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Bar yeah, put the women and children.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Ripping off people's arms and stuff. Yeah, like what happened
to the guy, Well, he lost his left arm. LeVar
Arrington ripped it off on the field, And I used
to try at twenty five. I think you could do
a college.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Kid possible if they were.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Just pick him up, put him on my knee, spanking,
then throwing down after taking the ball, and.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Then going to score touch. That would be ideal.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
You know, I'm super super intrigued with the Colorado game, obviously,
with all the attention that has been generated around Dion.
Coach Coach Prime has been one of the most talked
about coaches leading up to this the start of this season.
(06:51):
It's interesting because the Buffs are not considered to be
a playoff contender, not considered to be a tight contender.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think most.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
People have expectations of this Colorado team being a pedestrian team,
an average team, and what does that look like for
Dion Sanders. So it's curious to me that the attention
that you know, in the way things have kind of
(07:22):
developed with certain things that have been done by Dion,
whether it be the banning of the you know, of
the reporter, the columnists, whether it be the not answering
questions from the other reporter, just the kind of the
agitation that has seemingly become the storyline connected to Dion Sanders.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You got to believe that there are a lot of.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
People that see these things and in context of how
everything is played out, are wanting to see Dion Sanders
fail more, probably more so now and knowing that last
year was the year where they looked at it like, well,
can Dion can it translate? From Jackson State. I think
(08:14):
we the answer of could it translate what he does
to major power five football that the question was answered,
he can, it does translate.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
But now I don't think he's under.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
The same expectations as he was last year. I think
the expectations are way.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Higher for him and what it is that is.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Being expected of the team being in year two, which
to me sets the stage for a tremendous a tremendous
either amount of Like I mean, the dude wont Sportsman
of the Year last year.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Man he won Sportsman other.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Year with an average below average team, So now it's like,
if he can win this year, I think that the admiration,
the things that are said about him, like I think
he becomes one of the most legendary people in sports.
Forget coach, he becomes one of the most legendary people.
(09:16):
Even more so now if he has a great year
with this team this year. But with that being said,
I think that's all caps b ut because I think
I think the reality of it is it's going to
be very difficult to have success in the Pac twelve.
And if he does not have success, I don't think
(09:39):
they stumbled tonight. I think that North Dakota State is
it's a good name, it's a respectable name. They win
championships at the level that they've played at. They had
really really fine players come from there and going to
the going to the pros, and you know, you think
Christian Watson recently came from there. Trey Lance, even though
(09:59):
he has had the opportunity to show it at the
pro level, he's come from there. Carson Wentz is from there.
So they have had players come from North dakost State
that played at the next level. I don't think this
is one of those games where he stumbles. I don't
think they stumble. I think they have a good showing.
But I don't think that that puts the rest any
(10:20):
of the expectations or what it is that people are
saddling Coach Prime with at Colorado.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
And I think that that storyline is going to be one.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Of the most intriguing storylines, because how will he handle
the media if something doesn't go and it will at
some point not go the way that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
They would hope for it to go.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Within the Colorado football ecosystem, how will coach Prime handle
the adversity of this season if heading into it it
already seems to be sensitivity is connected to how he's
handling things.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, we got some stuff we had to handle here. First,
Eddie Garcia has got some breaking.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Well, we found out yesterday that Girodmeyo, the head coach
of the New England Patriots, had made his decision on who
the starting quarterback would be for the start of the season.
He said he was going to inform his team and
then inform the media. Adam Schefter reporting that the decision
has been made and that team he's informed the team
that Jacoby Brissett will in fact be the starting quarterback
Week one against the Bengals. So third overall pick Drake
(11:27):
may will be sitting on the bench for the first game.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I give up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I give up.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, what's the point jobs, What's the point of calling
your shot on this show?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What is the point?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Is he even going to be healthy?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I don't know, but didn't he bang up his shoulder
and also didn't the coach say he was out played
by the other guy, but we're still going to start
him and said, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
They're in for a long season.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But remember you guys were giving me a hard time when
I said, look, everybody buys multiple pieces of dough when
they're making pizza because you assume you're going to burn
the first one, you don't want to ruin the second one.
So maybe jacobys said, is that dough ball that they're like, hey,
go out there, buddy, We got to get this oven tested,
and we don't want to do it on the rookie.
So maybe that's the plan here. But it's just weird
(12:17):
that they would announce that he was getting out played,
yet he's going to be the starting quarter.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That's your first impression. What's your impression?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Queue, Well, my first impression is I'm gonna transition to another.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Piece of breaking news.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh, the Browns have restructured the contract of Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
They are converting forty four point eight million of his
base salary in twenty twenty four into a signing bonus.
He gets that cash up front, right now, so that
they creating thirty five point eight million. Now they don't
get rid of them, it's just creating cap space. And
so they'll now have sixty two million in cap space,
(12:58):
which is by far and away the most in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
For what what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I would think they might try to make a move.
You know, maybe maybe they're a potential suitor who knows
for Brendan and a yuk or a new contractor or
someone who's looking for who knows, I mean it could
be Hassan Reddick. It's been quiet on that front. You know,
maybe they'd look at trying to stack bring him any
though they have Sadarius Smith. I mean, it's just that
(13:25):
you don't know what they're gonna end up doing with it.
But that is by far and away the most cap space.
And if you had any doubts, as we've talked about
this at length, because his entire contracts guaranteed, so this
isn't to move on from him, it's the lesson just
lesson their cap hit. But if you had any doubts
about the commitment they have to Deshaun Watson that I mean,
(13:48):
ownership just paid him forty four million dollars right now
before the season, like they haven't done anything yet. In fact,
the preseason, it's not like he has shown anything yet.
So for the Browns fans out there, if there's concern
about what this may look like, put on your seatbelt
strap in. You were here for at least two three
(14:08):
more years.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Well he should have never gave him no money.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
H Deshaun Watson has started one more game than he
was suspended a couple of years ago, and he just
keeps getting paid.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Good for him, man, I mean, you know, this will.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Be a case study. This will be a case study
in most graduate schools across the country in regards to
you know, sports business. At some point it will be
a case study. Whether it all works out or it doesn't,
it'll be a case study worked out well for him.
(14:48):
But I'm talking about for the team. I'm talking about
for the team, for ownership, for the front office. And
by the way, like the interesting thing about this is
when you make decisions like this to create more cap space,
like you're you're getting you're you're checking this off from
the owner, you know, like Jimmy HASLM has to be
involved in this, Like hey, this is more looking at
doing are we good? Quep paying forty four million, Like,
(15:12):
it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's fun for Deshaun Watson's fun for his agent, David
Buiget it correct.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I think he's the correct? Yeah, correct?
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You think I had the better season, Jacoby Brissett or
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I mean I've already said to you guys, I think
Cleveland wins the division. Did you hear the I think
this is the year for them?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The quote last year because Brissette was back in up
he was the backup in Cleveland last year, correct, I
think correct.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
One of the backups.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So Brissette said last year, they were like, you know,
how difficult is it for you to to go in
and try not to be Deshaun Watson when you're out
there with this offense. And he's like, well, it's actually
pretty easy for me to not be Deshaun Watson. Like
people looked at it and said, well, he's right, like
you know, if he's meeting off the field or on
the field. But yeah, he's absolutely correct. And I think
(16:04):
Jamis Winston's going to get some pt this year, some
burn time.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
As Brady Quimy, well, if he if he doesn't get traded. Traded,
there's the potential chance that you get traded. I mean,
there's some teams that I've said to you before, Jameis
Winston should be a starter in the NFL. I mean,
forget the pregame speeches and all that fun stuff we
still on social media. He should be a starter in
the NFL. The fact that there's a few teams out
there that should have traded for him to have his
(16:28):
services is a bit surprising. But if he gets his
opportunity in Cleveland, I think he's gonna play well. I mean, look,
Brissett played well last year for like twenty five hundred
yards and twelve touchdowns. I think he had I don't
think he had that many picks, you know, So he
played well up to that point, and obviously Flacco came
in played well. I mean, like I said, look, this
(16:49):
is a as talented of a rosters you'll find in
the NFL. I think this is Cleveland's year. I think
they win the division. I think they become a thorn
in the side for Kansas City. I mean, this is
a Cleveland team that almost had Kansas City beat in
Kansas City. Was that a couple of years ago. Yeah,
big shot Heney came out on that fourth down with
Baker Mayfield at quarterback. Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's
(17:12):
one of those deals where, like, I think this team
is a lot closer to being a contender than anyone realizes,
and it's purely based on the focus and everything on
Watson when really the roster of the way it's constructed
is as good as you'll find.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Polly Foods Go Here with Tony Foods Go Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
As everybody knows, we're of the hosts of the award
winning Polly and Tony Foods Go show. Yeah, but instead
of us telling you how great we are, here's how
Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
What what are you doing interrupting our promo?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clubs
totally of context.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh yeah, Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Shut up.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paula and Tony Fusco
Show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts ohereva you get your podcasts, yee.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Two pros and a cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio.
We've got you in and of you out coming up
here in about fifteen minutes from now on a Thursday morning.
But right now it is a Thursday tradition. We visit
with our guy, Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content
strategist at the MMQB at Albert Breer on x SO AB.
Some news has come in out of the NFL over
the past several minutes. Obviously, uh, New England name of
(18:41):
Jacoby Brissett, the starting quarterback. But the Brown's also clearing
up some CAF space by restructuring Deshaun Watson's contract. What's
what's really going on there in Cleveland? Why is this
happening this morning?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
I has a procedural move, you know, generally like and
then this is the way it is the Shawn's contract.
You have triggers that allow you to move money around.
The Browns have done this. I think every well, I
mean the first year was obviously set up that way,
and then they've done it the last couple of years.
It creates cap space so they can maneuver some things
(19:16):
during the season, they trade that sort of stuff, you know,
and and and then if they have this space left over,
then they can just carry it over to the next year.
So I mean, I know every time this happened, because
the Browns have done it a couple of times that
they've done it with different players too, Like it looks
on paper like they've oh my god, they've got all
(19:37):
this cap space. What are they going to do now?
And certainly, you know, like if if if they were
going to revisit IUQ, like that's something that you know
would help them. But they've done this procedurally, you know,
almost every year to give themselves flexibility to going to
go into the year with all kinds of different players,
(19:57):
So I wouldn't make too much out of it. They
do wind up getting a big fish, great, if they don't,
then they just carry the money over to next year.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Albert help us understand the decision, bride Grodmeo who it
sounded like that Drake may outplayed Jacoby Brissette, and you
can't answer and say he's a veteran, he's got experience,
blah blah blah. You have to give me a real
answer here.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I don't think. I don't Brady. I think that this
like legitimately is about prioritizing Drake May's development and feeling
like he's not ready and the team's not ready to
support him, you know, and so you take him third. Overall,
they reworked his front works from the ground up, and
(20:43):
something I've talked to their coaches about, like they felt
like they were kind of getting him from zero on
based on what he had learned in North Carolina, especially
when it comes to working from under center.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And that's a real recruiting pitch for North Caro. A
lot of moving forward.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Yeah, well, I guess, I mean, like from what but
he went through a couple of coordinators there too, right,
like still longos there and then left and went to
Wisconsin and a lot of what he was doing was
out of the shotguns. So so they have had to
like rebuild his lower half and you know, there's a
whole ten thousand reps thing. And I think, like, you know,
he's a good enough athlete where you might be able
(21:21):
to game it up a certain way and make it
work for him because he can, you know, create a
little bit and in playoff schedule a bunch. But you know,
like the the thing is, they don't really have the
infrastructure personnel wise to support him either. Their offensive line
has been a dumpster fire through training camp. Their receivers
(21:43):
are fine, but not anything special, you know. I think
as much as anything else, it's like, okay, like, well,
if we were even going to think about putting him
out there, we'd want to have a really strong group
around him, and they don't have that right now. So
I think this is being done mostly in the name
of his development. I think, you know, the offense would
be more dangerous with Drake in there, but you know,
(22:05):
like they don't want to mess with with the progress
that he's made based on who they would have to
put him out there with.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Abe.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I'm curious to what what your take is or knowledge
of what's taking place in Cincinnati, because clearly Stefanski was
not in the know as to all of that information.
Is he now and how should we be looking at
this Jamar Chase situation?
Speaker 9 (22:33):
You mean you mean that tailor excuse me.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, excuse me, excuse me exactly.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
All good, All good, I'll good. That will make sure
we're clear on that. So so yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like I did this.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
To me. I think a big piece of this is
just kind of the effect that the CD Lamb contract
had on both you know, Jamar Chase and and Brandon
Aiyuk actually in San Francisco too, and that like now,
the Justin Jefferson deal less of an outlier. And we
talked about this over the course of the off season.
I don't really think you can apply the A. J.
(23:06):
Brown and Tyreek Bill contracts to this one because to
these because those are more adjustments on existing contracts. You're
talking about young guys getting new contracts, Like there were
four you know, this off season, earlier in the off
season and Jail and Wad, Defonte Smith, Nico Collins, i'man
Ross Saint Brown like the high twenty in the high
(23:27):
twenties in real money and then Jefferson at thirty five.
That's a huge gap. And so you know, these teams
were able to kind of the Niners, the and and
the Bengals were able to say, well, Jefferson deal is
kind of an outlier. Well, Lamb just signed at thirty four,
so Jefferson deal isn't an outlier anymore, you know, And
(23:49):
like Jamar Chase is certainly well within his rights now
to say, well, like, if I'm looking at this for
what it is, I'm certainly in the class of if
you if you want to say I'm not in the
class of Justin Fine, I'm certainly in the class of
CD Lamb based on what I've meant to you over
the first three years of my career. So that's where
I should be paid. So it wasn't pretty yesterday obviously.
(24:12):
But I actually think in a certain way this simplifies
the contract negotiation with the Bengals, because I think there's
no argument that he's a top five receiver in the
league and eventually they're going to have to pay him
there so makes it simpler. With you, I think it
actually complicates things because they were working on numbers that
were lower than that, and so like, now that you
have a second contract up in the mid thirties, like
(24:34):
it might cause IU Can his camp to rethink their
position a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Albert Briers, senior NFL reported with the MMQB, also lead
content strategist last one for me the decision in Pittsburgh
to name Russell Wilson the starter, but Mike Tomlin saying
there's going to be packages out there for Justin fields
to get on the field. Yeah, is this basically Russ
is going to have this moving forward because we were
wondering at some point where will there be a which
(25:00):
it need be?
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Yeah, And I think that that's I think, you know,
really having the flexibility to do that as part and
parcel to making this decision. Look like the Steelers offensive
coaches went into a deep dive on Justin this offseason,
dug true things and try to figure out how he
lost his confidence in Chicago. And you know one thing
that they I know that they did was they just
(25:22):
made a decision to go back to the footwork and
some of the mechanical stuff he was doing in Ohio State.
And so, you know, it took a while for that
to take but I'd say over the last month or so,
that's really started to show up at practice where he's
playing faster and more confidently. And then it really really
showed up in the game the last preseason game against Detroit,
to the point where there were people in that building
(25:44):
who felt like we should just say a hell with
it and start Justin because there's more upside here and
we sort of know the limitations that we're going to
be dealing with with Russell now. I think ultimately a
big picture, you know, if you're Omar Kahn the GM
and obviously Mike tom On the head coach, you know
part of this is maybe giving yourself two shots at it,
right like where if you start Justin, I don't know
(26:04):
if you can even keep Russell Russell on the roster,
and it would be much harder to go from Russell
to Justin, from Justin to Russell than it would be
to go from Russell to Justin. So I think in
this way, they take a shot with Russell and whether
it's a month two months in, they'll they'll have a
chance to reassess and if they have to go to Justin,
they can where going in the other direction would have
(26:25):
been really difficult. And remember like this is a this
is a head coach, a general manager wherever the last
couple of years they have had to make quarterback changes
in the season. So you know, I know that that
that that's part of the thought process here. We'll see
how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB. You can get him on x at
Albert Breer AB. We appreciate it. We'll talk again next
week when we get set for real games in the
NFL coming up this season.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
Absolutely, thanks, guys, have a great show on Saturday. Brady
there he is.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I just wish like it's just being a nice guy here.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Never mind the fact that LeVar and I also have
shows on Saturday, but never mind us.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You know, screw it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Let's say keep the change, keep no charge, homide.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So we are going to have another edition of you
and and You Out and that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Rise Up, Glendale.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
That's how you played the guitars System of a down?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Hell yeah, system down?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Yeah? You can report like that right now.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It might I might wake up LeVar from the dead, right,
Come on, man, Let's go. Come on for I'm not
sleep Come on for I'm great. Let's go for am
I all mute?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Why you can't hear me?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Let's go, come on listen to me.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I'm here, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You sell Joe Paturner right there?
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Hey, what's this?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
What's this noise? Ha? Turn it down?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Hop?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
We at our media? What what's this nose? This is Jack?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Listen to this, Cabbage? What are you gets listening to
these days?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You need to listen to some Frankie Sinatra.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Ar, Garbage, Guys, Cabbage, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you. If you've missed any of this show,
you can check out the podcast. Just search two Pros
wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow,
rate and review it again. Search two Pros wherever you
get your podcast. You'll see it posted. Right after we
(28:56):
get off the air. We are going to be back
on the air coming up tomorrow for a Football Friday
as we recapped the Thursday night college football action and
look ahead to a long weekend of games in the
sport of college football. But right now, we close up
shot today with this.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Two pros and a cup of show what even enough?
If they're please or if they're out? All right, lead
to la what do we got?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Guys?
Speaker 11 (29:22):
There's a good reason why why we are listening to
System of the Down is it's National Chop Suey Day.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
So what does that name?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Chop Suey is an American Chinese dish.
Speaker 11 (29:32):
And that is the name of that that song we
were just listening to, Chop Suey.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Oh, it's a good song.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
The song's great, but Chop Suey a dish sucks. I'm
out really.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Thanks, thanks for that.
Speaker 10 (29:44):
Jonas, guys in on the song, In on the food, Yeah,
that's right, in on the bend everything, it's got mushrooms.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
I'm out. I love mushrooms.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Guys, Yeah, you do it?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, dude, is that his.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Favorite kind of stamp?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Brady?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Maybe if you're a kind of psychedelic.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Uh, I don't let that stamp.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
First time said that, I didn't even get it, and
then I had to say, oh, now I understand, Yeah
it made sense.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Now I get it, And he was right.
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Uh, Fellas, I don't know why you would be in
on anything else. Today other than a full slate of
college football. I don't even know where to start, where
to begin, but uh, I think we're.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Rolling in on college football weekle and yeah, it starts
on Fox. You wouldn't see Minnesota after that. We've got
some other games gotta keep your eye on. But I
cannot work.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
They're gonna row the Boatstine or what I think.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I would take Minnesota on this one.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
And I love it.
Speaker 11 (30:58):
Guys, if you're looking for something else because you're a loser.
Yesterday we actually had the opening ceremony of the Paralympic
Games in Paris. Right now you can find uh rugby
wheelchair rugby. It's actually pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I loving it.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
How man, I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
They want to check it out. It's crazy. It's so
far after though. I also, when I was traveling recently,
I don't know if I told you guys this, I
met a woman who runs the one hundred meters sprint
and I think they call it the classic or something
like that. But they were like, they're in the age
group is like the classics or something. I forget they
(31:38):
defined them. But she was literally traveling to go run
on one hundred meters and she told me she's I
think she was in her like the late sixties or
maybe seventy, and she runs one hundred meters in life
fourteen or fifteen seconds. I was like, that's pretty dark.
Good for something that like their seventies or seventy that's my.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Forty mm hmm.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
If you're looking for a new podcast to listen to,
Unapologetically Angel, Angel Reese.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Is coming out with all with the.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Podcast just what We Need.
Speaker 11 (32:13):
Well, you know, I'm sure she heard about the Kelsey
Brothers getting the one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I was going to say out, but once you said that,
Joe and this has changed my.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Mind, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And let me tell you, if it was Caitlin Clark,
I'd be in, Oh, hit.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
The button, your w hit the button.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Oh my gosh
Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a
Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox, and
myself Brady Quinn. Make sure you catch us live weekdays
six to nine am Eastern or three am to six
am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. You can find your
local station for the Two Pros and a Cup of
Joe show over at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream
(00:20):
us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Give this you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Well listen. It is Two Pros and a Cup of
Here on Fox Sports Radio. LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas
Touch with you. Doing it all live from the tire
rack dot Com studios tiraq dot com. We'll help you
get there, an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road
as a protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers tirac
dot com the way tire buying should be. We open
(00:55):
up the show to discuss college football. It is here,
it is back. It all starts tonight. We've got a
bunch of college football games taking place tonight all through
the weekend. The big one on Fox will be North
Carolina and Minnesota you got coach Prime and Colorado playing.
You got number twelve Utah, who's gonna be taken on
(01:15):
Southern Utah. A lot of these are gonna be blowouts,
but look, we're gonna get we should get some interesting games.
You know, North Carolina Minnesota is projected to be I
think Minnesota favored by a point and a half, or
I could have that right, that could be North Carolina.
In North Carolina's favored by a point and a half
in some places. So we do have at least some
(01:36):
potential for good matchups here to open up the season
in college football. So your eyes are not deceiving you.
If people look around and realize, oh, is that actual
college football on my screen? Yes it is, and it's
on Fox at eight eastern time, five Pacific. Coming up later.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
There's a bunch of games on tonight, but I was
gonna say that's one I'm really curious to watch. The
other one's gonna be called out of North North Dakota State.
You got that at eight pm Eastern time, five o'clock Pacific.
I don't even know why I'm saying that, but it's
that's gonna be fun to watch. Missouri's playing Murray State.
Not that that should be competitive. I think the line's
(02:14):
like forty seven and a half points. But Miszoo really
finished on a high note last year, and that's a
team to keep an eye if you're interested in kind
of how the SEC is gonna shake out. Missoo will
be in the mix. There's no doubt they've got the
best wide receiver in the country. And Luther Burden the
third he's a dynamic player. He should be a ton
of fun to watch in the first quarter of this one.
(02:36):
I don't imagine he's gonna play much after the first quarter,
maybe into the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
By the way, you see, you can get into an
Eastern Illinois Illinois game tonight.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
For two dollars. Can you really two dollars?
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You need to get on a flight and go back,
go to Champagne, go back, get back there.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
By the way, you know, who's two sons play for Illinois.
Who's that Owlin Cruiz? Both his boys play for Illinois.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
They're getting getting fired up for that game at State College.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The other one is the return of Cam Rising.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
All that's right, taking on.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Sam Rising, taken on Southern Utah, it's right. I think rising.
Is he going to seventh year? Did I read that right?
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
He's old. Yeah, he's fun to watch, though. I was
already traded to the Denver Broncos by this point in time.
That's why I had a conversation with someone yesterday about
this and they're like, oh, so and so is a
belt ready to go fourth on the old time. I'm like, well, yeah,
he's gotten seven years of eligibility to do it. I'm like,
you know, some people were already in the NFL by now,
(03:36):
like why are we Why are we keeping stats? And
we're letting guys accumulate seven years of stats while in
college football it's like shouldn't At some point you kind
of go, yeah, there's an asterisk next to this, or
maybe there's a cutoff where, like I still look at
was it Michael James for Oregon?
Speaker 5 (03:54):
Look at that?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Was that the three year span he had rushing in
the PAC twelve or maybe in PAC ten? You know,
back then he was incredible, I mean absolutely incredible as
far as the production that he had and had it rolling.
I mean again, you go back to guys like you know,
Barry Sanders in the day and so forth, and now
you see guys who do you know they rush for
(04:16):
a bunch of yards. Are like, well, they played fifteen games,
like a little different than when when guys were playing
back in the day and they played for six or
seven years. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
At this point, cam Raising's twenty five.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
I'm not lying. I've literally gotten played three seasons in
the NFL.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
By now, I mean he uh the prior to the
eight oh five, by the way, Newberry Park, Newberry Park
High School, he had the Panthers. Uh, So we get
to watch him come back and return because he had
a he could he he could have come back last year, right,
and he opted to just sit out the entire year
so that we had another year of eligibility.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So this would be because the met he had a met,
he was going to be able to apply for a
medical red shirt, which I don't know that he would
have been one hundred percent by the time the season began.
So I think the thought was, let's try to play
this into another year where you're fully one hundred percent healthy,
give yourself every opportunity to improve your draft stock, you know,
help Utah win in this case now a Big twelve championship.
(05:14):
Try to go for a national championship. So look, Utah
is the favorite of the Big Twelve, as they should be.
You know, Kyle Whitningham's done a tremendous job creating one
of the more consistent programs you'll find in college football.
I mean, you know what their identity is, and Cam
Rising is the guy that brings a special element of
playmaking about at the quarterback spot, but elevates their passing
(05:35):
game to one that if they do get in the
playoff they will be a tough team to play. And
if they host a home playoff game, that's a nasty
place to go man, having to deal with the must there.
Their student body is one of the better that you'll
find in college football.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Iagine LeVar at twenty four to twenty five in college
just sand blasted.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
He would be murdering people like they would literally probably
go down on the field and have to rest them
like this, This shouldn't happen.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The paramedics sort of out.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Bar yeah, put the women and children.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Ripping off people's arms and stuff. Yeah, like what happened
to the guy, Well, he lost his left arm. LeVar
Arrington ripped it off on the field, And I used
to try at twenty five. I think you could do
a college.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Kid possible if they were.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Just pick him up, put him on my knee, spanking,
then throwing down after taking the ball, and.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
Then going to score touch. That would be ideal.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
You know, I'm super super intrigued with the Colorado game, obviously,
with all the attention that has been generated around Dion.
Coach Coach Prime has been one of the most talked
about coaches leading up to this the start of this season.
(06:51):
It's interesting because the Buffs are not considered to be
a playoff contender, not considered to be a tight contender.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think most.
Speaker 6 (07:02):
People have expectations of this Colorado team being a pedestrian team,
an average team, and what does that look like for
Dion Sanders. So it's curious to me that the attention
that you know, in the way things have kind of
(07:22):
developed with certain things that have been done by Dion,
whether it be the banning of the you know, of
the reporter, the columnists, whether it be the not answering
questions from the other reporter, just the kind of the
agitation that has seemingly become the storyline connected to Dion Sanders.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
You got to believe that there are a lot of.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
People that see these things and in context of how
everything is played out, are wanting to see Dion Sanders
fail more, probably more so now and knowing that last
year was the year where they looked at it like, well,
can Dion can it translate? From Jackson State. I think
(08:14):
we the answer of could it translate what he does
to major power five football that the question was answered,
he can, it does translate.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
But now I don't think he's under.
Speaker 6 (08:27):
The same expectations as he was last year. I think
the expectations are way.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
Higher for him and what it is that is.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
Being expected of the team being in year two, which
to me sets the stage for a tremendous a tremendous
either amount of Like I mean, the dude wont Sportsman
of the Year last year.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Man he won Sportsman other.
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Year with an average below average team, So now it's like,
if he can win this year, I think that the admiration,
the things that are said about him, like I think
he becomes one of the most legendary people in sports.
Forget coach, he becomes one of the most legendary people.
(09:16):
Even more so now if he has a great year
with this team this year. But with that being said,
I think that's all caps b ut because I think
I think the reality of it is it's going to
be very difficult to have success in the Pac twelve.
And if he does not have success, I don't think
(09:39):
they stumbled tonight. I think that North Dakota State is
it's a good name, it's a respectable name. They win
championships at the level that they've played at. They had
really really fine players come from there and going to
the going to the pros, and you know, you think
Christian Watson recently came from there. Trey Lance, even though
(09:59):
he has had the opportunity to show it at the
pro level, he's come from there. Carson Wentz is from there.
So they have had players come from North dakost State
that played at the next level. I don't think this
is one of those games where he stumbles. I don't
think they stumble. I think they have a good showing.
But I don't think that that puts the rest any
(10:20):
of the expectations or what it is that people are
saddling Coach Prime with at Colorado.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
And I think that that storyline is going to be one.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Of the most intriguing storylines, because how will he handle
the media if something doesn't go and it will at
some point not go the way that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
They would hope for it to go.
Speaker 6 (10:40):
Within the Colorado football ecosystem, how will coach Prime handle
the adversity of this season if heading into it it
already seems to be sensitivity is connected to how he's
handling things.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Well, we got some stuff we had to handle here. First,
Eddie Garcia has got some breaking.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
News, breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Well, we found out yesterday that Girodmeyo, the head coach
of the New England Patriots, had made his decision on who
the starting quarterback would be for the start of the season.
He said he was going to inform his team and
then inform the media. Adam Schefter reporting that the decision
has been made and that team he's informed the team
that Jacoby Brissett will in fact be the starting quarterback
Week one against the Bengals. So third overall pick Drake
(11:27):
may will be sitting on the bench for the first game.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I give up.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I give up.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, what's the point jobs, What's the point of calling
your shot on this show?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
What is the point?
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Is he even going to be healthy?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I don't know, but didn't he bang up his shoulder
and also didn't the coach say he was out played
by the other guy, but we're still going to start
him and said, Okay.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
They're in for a long season.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
But remember you guys were giving me a hard time when
I said, look, everybody buys multiple pieces of dough when
they're making pizza because you assume you're going to burn
the first one, you don't want to ruin the second one.
So maybe jacobys said, is that dough ball that they're like, hey,
go out there, buddy, We got to get this oven tested,
and we don't want to do it on the rookie.
So maybe that's the plan here. But it's just weird
(12:17):
that they would announce that he was getting out played,
yet he's going to be the starting quarter.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
That's your first impression. What's your impression?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Queue, Well, my first impression is I'm gonna transition to another.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
Piece of breaking news.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
Oh, the Browns have restructured the contract of Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
They are converting forty four point eight million of his
base salary in twenty twenty four into a signing bonus.
He gets that cash up front, right now, so that
they creating thirty five point eight million. Now they don't
get rid of them, it's just creating cap space. And
so they'll now have sixty two million in cap space,
(12:58):
which is by far and away the most in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
For what what are they doing?
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, I would think they might try to make a move.
You know, maybe maybe they're a potential suitor who knows
for Brendan and a yuk or a new contractor or
someone who's looking for who knows, I mean it could
be Hassan Reddick. It's been quiet on that front. You know,
maybe they'd look at trying to stack bring him any
though they have Sadarius Smith. I mean, it's just that
(13:25):
you don't know what they're gonna end up doing with it.
But that is by far and away the most cap space.
And if you had any doubts, as we've talked about
this at length, because his entire contracts guaranteed, so this
isn't to move on from him, it's the lesson just
lesson their cap hit. But if you had any doubts
about the commitment they have to Deshaun Watson that I mean,
(13:48):
ownership just paid him forty four million dollars right now
before the season, like they haven't done anything yet. In fact,
the preseason, it's not like he has shown anything yet.
So for the Browns fans out there, if there's concern
about what this may look like, put on your seatbelt
strap in. You were here for at least two three
(14:08):
more years.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
Well he should have never gave him no money.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
H Deshaun Watson has started one more game than he
was suspended a couple of years ago, and he just
keeps getting paid.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
Good for him, man, I mean, you know, this will.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Be a case study. This will be a case study
in most graduate schools across the country in regards to
you know, sports business. At some point it will be
a case study. Whether it all works out or it doesn't,
it'll be a case study worked out well for him.
(14:48):
But I'm talking about for the team. I'm talking about
for the team, for ownership, for the front office. And
by the way, like the interesting thing about this is
when you make decisions like this to create more cap space,
like you're you're getting you're you're checking this off from
the owner, you know, like Jimmy HASLM has to be
involved in this, Like hey, this is more looking at
doing are we good? Quep paying forty four million, Like,
(15:12):
it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Man.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's fun for Deshaun Watson's fun for his agent, David
Buiget it correct.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I think he's the correct? Yeah, correct?
Speaker 6 (15:23):
You think I had the better season, Jacoby Brissett or
Deshaun Watson.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I mean I've already said to you guys, I think
Cleveland wins the division. Did you hear the I think
this is the year for them?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
The quote last year because Brissette was back in up
he was the backup in Cleveland last year, correct, I
think correct.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
One of the backups.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
So Brissette said last year, they were like, you know,
how difficult is it for you to to go in
and try not to be Deshaun Watson when you're out
there with this offense. And he's like, well, it's actually
pretty easy for me to not be Deshaun Watson. Like
people looked at it and said, well, he's right, like
you know, if he's meeting off the field or on
the field. But yeah, he's absolutely correct. And I think
(16:04):
Jamis Winston's going to get some pt this year, some
burn time.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
As Brady Quimy, well, if he if he doesn't get traded. Traded,
there's the potential chance that you get traded. I mean,
there's some teams that I've said to you before, Jameis
Winston should be a starter in the NFL. I mean,
forget the pregame speeches and all that fun stuff we
still on social media. He should be a starter in
the NFL. The fact that there's a few teams out
there that should have traded for him to have his
(16:28):
services is a bit surprising. But if he gets his
opportunity in Cleveland, I think he's gonna play well. I mean, look,
Brissett played well last year for like twenty five hundred
yards and twelve touchdowns. I think he had I don't
think he had that many picks, you know, So he
played well up to that point, and obviously Flacco came
in played well. I mean, like I said, look, this
(16:49):
is a as talented of a rosters you'll find in
the NFL. I think this is Cleveland's year. I think
they win the division. I think they become a thorn
in the side for Kansas City. I mean, this is
a Cleveland team that almost had Kansas City beat in
Kansas City. Was that a couple of years ago. Yeah,
big shot Heney came out on that fourth down with
Baker Mayfield at quarterback. Yeah yeah, I mean it's it's
(17:12):
one of those deals where, like, I think this team
is a lot closer to being a contender than anyone realizes,
and it's purely based on the focus and everything on
Watson when really the roster of the way it's constructed
is as good as you'll find.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Polly Foods Go Here with Tony Foods Go Yeah.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
As everybody knows, we're of the hosts of the award
winning Polly and Tony Foods Go show. Yeah, but instead
of us telling you how great we are, here's how
Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
What what are you doing interrupting our promo?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clubs
totally of context.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh yeah, Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Let me put this into context.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Shut up.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paula and Tony Fusco
Show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts ohereva you get your podcasts, yee.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Two pros and a cup of Joe Here Fox Sports Radio.
We've got you in and of you out coming up
here in about fifteen minutes from now on a Thursday morning.
But right now it is a Thursday tradition. We visit
with our guy, Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content
strategist at the MMQB at Albert Breer on x SO AB.
Some news has come in out of the NFL over
the past several minutes. Obviously, uh, New England name of
(18:41):
Jacoby Brissett, the starting quarterback. But the Brown's also clearing
up some CAF space by restructuring Deshaun Watson's contract. What's
what's really going on there in Cleveland? Why is this
happening this morning?
Speaker 9 (18:54):
I has a procedural move, you know, generally like and
then this is the way it is the Shawn's contract.
You have triggers that allow you to move money around.
The Browns have done this. I think every well, I
mean the first year was obviously set up that way,
and then they've done it the last couple of years.
It creates cap space so they can maneuver some things
(19:16):
during the season, they trade that sort of stuff, you know,
and and and then if they have this space left over,
then they can just carry it over to the next year.
So I mean, I know every time this happened, because
the Browns have done it a couple of times that
they've done it with different players too, Like it looks
on paper like they've oh my god, they've got all
(19:37):
this cap space. What are they going to do now?
And certainly, you know, like if if if they were
going to revisit IUQ, like that's something that you know
would help them. But they've done this procedurally, you know,
almost every year to give themselves flexibility to going to
go into the year with all kinds of different players,
(19:57):
So I wouldn't make too much out of it. They
do wind up getting a big fish, great, if they don't,
then they just carry the money over to next year.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Albert help us understand the decision, bride Grodmeo who it
sounded like that Drake may outplayed Jacoby Brissette, and you
can't answer and say he's a veteran, he's got experience,
blah blah blah. You have to give me a real
answer here.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I don't think. I don't Brady. I think that this
like legitimately is about prioritizing Drake May's development and feeling
like he's not ready and the team's not ready to
support him, you know, and so you take him third. Overall,
they reworked his front works from the ground up, and
(20:43):
something I've talked to their coaches about, like they felt
like they were kind of getting him from zero on
based on what he had learned in North Carolina, especially
when it comes to working from under center.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
And that's a real recruiting pitch for North Caro. A
lot of moving forward.
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Yeah, well, I guess, I mean, like from what but
he went through a couple of coordinators there too, right,
like still longos there and then left and went to
Wisconsin and a lot of what he was doing was
out of the shotguns. So so they have had to
like rebuild his lower half and you know, there's a
whole ten thousand reps thing. And I think, like, you know,
he's a good enough athlete where you might be able
(21:21):
to game it up a certain way and make it
work for him because he can, you know, create a
little bit and in playoff schedule a bunch. But you know,
like the the thing is, they don't really have the
infrastructure personnel wise to support him either. Their offensive line
has been a dumpster fire through training camp. Their receivers
(21:43):
are fine, but not anything special, you know. I think
as much as anything else, it's like, okay, like, well,
if we were even going to think about putting him
out there, we'd want to have a really strong group
around him, and they don't have that right now. So
I think this is being done mostly in the name
of his development. I think, you know, the offense would
be more dangerous with Drake in there, but you know,
(22:05):
like they don't want to mess with with the progress
that he's made based on who they would have to
put him out there with.
Speaker 5 (22:13):
Abe.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
I'm curious to what what your take is or knowledge
of what's taking place in Cincinnati, because clearly Stefanski was
not in the know as to all of that information.
Is he now and how should we be looking at
this Jamar Chase situation?
Speaker 9 (22:33):
You mean you mean that tailor excuse me.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
Yeah, excuse me, excuse me exactly.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
All good, All good, I'll good. That will make sure
we're clear on that. So so yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like I did this.
Speaker 9 (22:45):
To me. I think a big piece of this is
just kind of the effect that the CD Lamb contract
had on both you know, Jamar Chase and and Brandon
Aiyuk actually in San Francisco too, and that like now,
the Justin Jefferson deal less of an outlier. And we
talked about this over the course of the off season.
I don't really think you can apply the A. J.
(23:06):
Brown and Tyreek Bill contracts to this one because to
these because those are more adjustments on existing contracts. You're
talking about young guys getting new contracts, Like there were
four you know, this off season, earlier in the off
season and Jail and Wad, Defonte Smith, Nico Collins, i'man
Ross Saint Brown like the high twenty in the high
(23:27):
twenties in real money and then Jefferson at thirty five.
That's a huge gap. And so you know, these teams
were able to kind of the Niners, the and and
the Bengals were able to say, well, Jefferson deal is
kind of an outlier. Well, Lamb just signed at thirty four,
so Jefferson deal isn't an outlier anymore, you know, And
(23:49):
like Jamar Chase is certainly well within his rights now
to say, well, like, if I'm looking at this for
what it is, I'm certainly in the class of if
you if you want to say I'm not in the
class of Justin Fine, I'm certainly in the class of
CD Lamb based on what I've meant to you over
the first three years of my career. So that's where
I should be paid. So it wasn't pretty yesterday obviously.
(24:12):
But I actually think in a certain way this simplifies
the contract negotiation with the Bengals, because I think there's
no argument that he's a top five receiver in the
league and eventually they're going to have to pay him
there so makes it simpler. With you, I think it
actually complicates things because they were working on numbers that
were lower than that, and so like, now that you
have a second contract up in the mid thirties, like
(24:34):
it might cause IU Can his camp to rethink their
position a little bit.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Albert Briers, senior NFL reported with the MMQB, also lead
content strategist last one for me the decision in Pittsburgh
to name Russell Wilson the starter, but Mike Tomlin saying
there's going to be packages out there for Justin fields
to get on the field. Yeah, is this basically Russ
is going to have this moving forward because we were
wondering at some point where will there be a which
(25:00):
it need be?
Speaker 9 (25:01):
Yeah, And I think that that's I think, you know,
really having the flexibility to do that as part and
parcel to making this decision. Look like the Steelers offensive
coaches went into a deep dive on Justin this offseason,
dug true things and try to figure out how he
lost his confidence in Chicago. And you know one thing
that they I know that they did was they just
(25:22):
made a decision to go back to the footwork and
some of the mechanical stuff he was doing in Ohio State.
And so, you know, it took a while for that
to take but I'd say over the last month or so,
that's really started to show up at practice where he's
playing faster and more confidently. And then it really really
showed up in the game the last preseason game against Detroit,
to the point where there were people in that building
(25:44):
who felt like we should just say a hell with
it and start Justin because there's more upside here and
we sort of know the limitations that we're going to
be dealing with with Russell now. I think ultimately a
big picture, you know, if you're Omar Kahn the GM
and obviously Mike tom On the head coach, you know
part of this is maybe giving yourself two shots at it,
right like where if you start Justin, I don't know
(26:04):
if you can even keep Russell Russell on the roster,
and it would be much harder to go from Russell
to Justin, from Justin to Russell than it would be
to go from Russell to Justin. So I think in
this way, they take a shot with Russell and whether
it's a month two months in, they'll they'll have a
chance to reassess and if they have to go to Justin,
they can where going in the other direction would have
(26:25):
been really difficult. And remember like this is a this
is a head coach, a general manager wherever the last
couple of years they have had to make quarterback changes
in the season. So you know, I know that that
that that's part of the thought process here. We'll see
how it plays out.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
He is Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist
at the MMQB. You can get him on x at
Albert Breer AB. We appreciate it. We'll talk again next
week when we get set for real games in the
NFL coming up this season.
Speaker 9 (26:54):
Absolutely, thanks, guys, have a great show on Saturday. Brady
there he is.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
Look at that.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
I just wish like it's just being a nice guy here.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Never mind the fact that LeVar and I also have
shows on Saturday, but never mind us.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
You know, screw it.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
It is two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
Let's say keep the change, keep no charge, homide.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
So we are going to have another edition of you
and and You Out and that's yours right here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and
Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific.
Speaker 3 (27:33):
Rise Up, Glendale.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
That's how you played the guitars System of a down?
Speaker 4 (27:40):
Hell yeah, system down?
Speaker 5 (27:42):
Yeah? You can report like that right now.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
It might I might wake up LeVar from the dead, right,
Come on, man, Let's go. Come on for I'm not
sleep Come on for I'm great. Let's go for am
I all mute?
Speaker 5 (27:56):
Why you can't hear me?
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Let's go, come on listen to me.
Speaker 5 (28:00):
I'm here, I'm good.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
You sell Joe Paturner right there?
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Hey, what's this?
Speaker 5 (28:11):
What's this noise? Ha? Turn it down?
Speaker 2 (28:16):
Hop?
Speaker 5 (28:16):
We at our media? What what's this nose? This is Jack?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Listen to this, Cabbage? What are you gets listening to
these days?
Speaker 4 (28:30):
You need to listen to some Frankie Sinatra.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here
on Fox Sports Radio. LaVar Ar, Garbage, Guys, Cabbage, Brady Quinn,
Jonas Knox with you. If you've missed any of this show,
you can check out the podcast. Just search two Pros
wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to also follow,
rate and review it again. Search two Pros wherever you
get your podcast. You'll see it posted. Right after we
(28:56):
get off the air. We are going to be back
on the air coming up tomorrow for a Football Friday
as we recapped the Thursday night college football action and
look ahead to a long weekend of games in the
sport of college football. But right now, we close up
shot today with this.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Two pros and a cup of show what even enough?
If they're please or if they're out? All right, lead
to la what do we got?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
Guys?
Speaker 11 (29:22):
There's a good reason why why we are listening to
System of the Down is it's National Chop Suey Day.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
So what does that name?
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Chop Suey is an American Chinese dish.
Speaker 11 (29:32):
And that is the name of that that song we
were just listening to, Chop Suey.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Oh, it's a good song.
Speaker 4 (29:37):
It sucks.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
The song's great, but Chop Suey a dish sucks. I'm
out really.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Thanks, thanks for that.
Speaker 10 (29:44):
Jonas, guys in on the song, In on the food, Yeah,
that's right, in on the bend everything, it's got mushrooms.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
I'm out. I love mushrooms.
Speaker 4 (29:58):
Guys, Yeah, you do it?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Yeah, dude, is that his.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Favorite kind of stamp?
Speaker 3 (30:02):
Brady?
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Maybe if you're a kind of psychedelic.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Uh, I don't let that stamp.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
First time said that, I didn't even get it, and
then I had to say, oh, now I understand, Yeah
it made sense.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Now I get it, And he was right.
Speaker 11 (30:27):
Uh, Fellas, I don't know why you would be in
on anything else. Today other than a full slate of
college football. I don't even know where to start, where
to begin, but uh, I think we're.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Rolling in on college football weekle and yeah, it starts
on Fox. You wouldn't see Minnesota after that. We've got
some other games gotta keep your eye on. But I
cannot work.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
They're gonna row the Boatstine or what I think.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
So I would take Minnesota on this one.
Speaker 5 (30:56):
And I love it.
Speaker 11 (30:58):
Guys, if you're looking for something else because you're a loser.
Yesterday we actually had the opening ceremony of the Paralympic
Games in Paris. Right now you can find uh rugby
wheelchair rugby. It's actually pretty freaking awesome.
Speaker 5 (31:12):
I loving it.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
How man, I think it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
They want to check it out. It's crazy. It's so
far after though. I also, when I was traveling recently,
I don't know if I told you guys this, I
met a woman who runs the one hundred meters sprint
and I think they call it the classic or something
like that. But they were like, they're in the age
group is like the classics or something. I forget they
(31:38):
defined them. But she was literally traveling to go run
on one hundred meters and she told me she's I
think she was in her like the late sixties or
maybe seventy, and she runs one hundred meters in life
fourteen or fifteen seconds. I was like, that's pretty dark.
Good for something that like their seventies or seventy that's my.
Speaker 4 (31:59):
Forty mm hmm.
Speaker 11 (32:03):
If you're looking for a new podcast to listen to,
Unapologetically Angel, Angel Reese.
Speaker 10 (32:08):
Is coming out with all with the.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Podcast just what We Need.
Speaker 11 (32:13):
Well, you know, I'm sure she heard about the Kelsey
Brothers getting the one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 6 (32:16):
I was going to say out, but once you said that,
Joe and this has changed my.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Mind, I'm out.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
And let me tell you, if it was Caitlin Clark,
I'd be in, Oh, hit.
Speaker 1 (32:29):
The button, your w hit the button.
Speaker 5 (32:34):
Oh my gosh
Hosts And Creators
Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!