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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two pros and a couple of Joe Fox Sports Radio,
LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Football Friday, We're going to talk college
football because we've got a Colorado performance that's got a
lot of interesting angles to discuss, including what the hell
was that towards the end. We're also going to talk
about the big week at ahead, and we're looking at
the Heisman Trophy. How's that gonna play out this year?
(00:22):
Brady Quinn once called his shot on the Heisman Trophy
winner at ten to one. Who does he like? For
this upcoming season. We're gonna discuss the vibe in Morgantown
for Penn State West Virginia. Why did Minnesota light off
their fireworks even after they lost last night?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We'll explain.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Plus, we're gonna get the very latest on the Dak
Prescott Jerry Jones drama. We are going to discuss what
the Jets season is looking like because apparently the Hassan
Redick drama is still there and we've bid farewell. It's
been so fun, it's been such a great ride. But
the Brandon Aiyuk story is over. It's all yours next year.
(01:01):
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Huh it must have happened. Yeah, worked all the way out, boy.
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Yeah, that's all.
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on a show last night.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Now should we start with Colorado and Prime and that
whole scene.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I mean that's the headline, right.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, of course it is. Everybody's going to watch.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Because Shador is fun as hell to watch man and.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Makes place man.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Travis Hunter is fun.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And hell to watch makes place. I just hope those
guys make it through healthy. That's it. It's all I'm wondering.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
If one of them goes down and I don't know that.
I mean Horn hornballed out to Horn Horn Junior, Horn Junior.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
M Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Horn j.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jimmy Horton J Yeah, and he balled out too. But uh,
I guess, I guess you always can. We can always
give props to where the props are doing, and the
stars showed up for Colorado in that game. But I
still think the concerns of last year are still some
of the concerns of this year. Right the quarterback for
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North Dakota had too much time at times, he was
too elusive for the defense. I say that was an issue.
They were able to make plays when they needed to
make plays against Colorado's defense. I just think the biggest
storyline in that game coming out of that game is
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one if Shador, if Shador can do what he did
in this opening game, which you assume them taking a
tougher opponent, even though it's not a big, big opponent
as a tougher opponent, they did take on a competitive opponent.
First games are going to be difficult, but if Shador
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and Travis Hunter and Horn, if they can deliver that way,
this team should be in pretty much every game that
they play in. They need a running game. They definitely
need to find their running game because that's going to
be something that's important in the Big twelve. And their
defense has to be better. I mean, that was those
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were my takeaways from the game.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Well, I'll say this quickly.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
They will always have a shot because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
I mean, I'll continue to keep saying this.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
The quarterback position at the college level will always give
your team a chance, and he's one of the best
in college football. We kind of talked about this. I
don't know if it was earlier this week or maybe
last week, but it'll be Carson Beck. It'll be him,
and maybe there'll be some others that we talk about
in regards to the top of the first round, but
you know, that's the type of talent he is, and
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Travis Hunter and Jimmy Horn Junior, and a fear that
the players too on their roster are good enough, this
old possession to help them.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Win some football games.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
But as you if, as you're basically touching on, is this,
this team hasn't really changed a ton from last year.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
It's a team that's built off of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Carrying them and then being able to do enough defensively
to win a game. And that was a game where
I think every single weakness you saw in Colorado last
year is still there.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
The protection at times wasn't great.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I mean, that was North Dakota State, it's not Nebraska
who they played next week. North Dakota State and greated
that's a really good program at that level. But they're
going to be in for a big time challenge if
the offensive line doesn't improve, and on the outside, Nebraska
won't be able to match up better. Nebraska should be
able to take away certain pieces of the of that offense.
(05:56):
So all the things you touched on, they're gonna have
to do if they want to continue continue to keep
building momentum, because that's the one thing I'd say that's
so big in college football is momentum, and you see
it throughout games. You know, I really thought Colorado in
the fourth quarter starting to take away the momentum. But
the thing that stood out too, that's a bit of
(06:17):
an issue, is what the hell were they doing throwing
on first intent?
Speaker 6 (06:22):
No kidding, they could have meeled.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
The ball three times. The game was over and North
Dakota State had a shot at the very end it
was I mean, it's those sorts of decisions that we
could talk about the glitz, the glamour and what of
the program, and then there's just talking ball and you
leave people scratching their heads going why do they do that?
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They literally had the game in hand. They never had
to punt the ball back. That's the sort of thing
that maybe maybe North Dakota State won't beat you, some
will beat you if you give them another opportunity like that,
if they're able to handle it better. So you know, look,
Colorado is going to be a team that's BO eligible.
I think they'll win more than six games, but if
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they really want to be one of the top of the
Big twelve, they've got to do a better drop coaching.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
They got some help, I thought from the refs for
some no calls.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
At the end of the game, they spotted the ball
and the clock was stopped at fifteen seconds.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
The ref then picks it up to move it back.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
It takes another six seconds off the clock from North
Dakota State then to snap the ball and spike it.
It was one of the most egregious things I've seen
an official do. Amongst them a bunch of the miscalls.
So there's a lot of things that helped Colorado get
that win last night. At the end, it doesn't matter,
but they need some big time improvement from week one
to week two.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Deon Sanders spoke afterwards about the decision to throw on
that final drive.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I mean, you got to understand you got to take
what people give you. You can't take what you want
and it's not there. I mean, what do you do
for four and forty five yards? You think we're upset?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Right? Who upset? See over? They ever run a game?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
The pass the game look pretty darn good today.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
So let's let's let's be appreciative and thankful that we
got one of the premier guys in college footballs spending it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
We're gonna have a lot more ballance. Today was just
that type of day. You got to take what they
give you. But in that situation like too and stuff,
do you want to run the clock down?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean you won't.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
For no, No, you want first downs? Right if you
want to run a clock down. They got a five
man box. I mean they got five five down. Like
you gotta look out there and say, okay, I got
one on one right here. I haven't seen one on
one the whole game. So I gotta do what I
gotta do. The move these change and that's what that is.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, I mean, I'll let you have that cue. I mean,
I understand what he's saying. I do understand, like getting
a first down the game is over, but.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I'll let you have a Q. I'll let you have it.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I mean, it's just it's bath. It's not complicated, it's math.
I mean they could have ran the clock out. Everyone
understands the objective, but you still could have ran the
clock out given their lack of timeout to give it
where you had the football.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean if your reasoning is is five man
down because you know they're going to try to during
Victory's formation, Yeah, and that's that's that's what I'll say.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And he's right.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
He spends it and then Q you you mentioned it. Chador.
Shador spends the ball. I mean he he can he
can play.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
He can also run too, right, He's alright running.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I mean he can he can buy himself some time.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, the one thing that really stood out to me,
that really jumped out at me about Shador Sanders is
that he's he was delivering. He was delivering some beautiful
balls under some serious duress. Like he was getting hit.
Like a couple of the big plays he made during
this game, he was getting hit the same time he
(10:01):
was releasing the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He looks bigger, doesn't he. He bulked up, right, he looks.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
A little bigger. He's growing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I mean, I thought they were impressive. I thought
the offense in the passing game was impressive. I was
not in in Prime said it. Coach Prime said, listen,
they need to improve their running game. I looked at
some of the plays. I looked over him again a
little bit, some of the plays that and it was
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interesting being in I'm here in State.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
College, and I was with some of my you know, some.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Of the old heads. Yeah yeah, we are. Matter of fact,
you know, Q will talk about that. Qus and Morgan
town so he's going to see my dudes. Well yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
There were some former players.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And I was at a Spikes baseball game yesterday shouts
out to the state college Spikes, And the first thing
that guys were saying, which I thought was an interesting observation,
was once they if you want want to see the
difference or understand the difference between a major and a
mid like a Power five versus like a mid major,
(11:09):
and like lower levels, you'd see like plays where there'd
be they were taking advantage of one on one situations
and the defender would actually be close enough for it
to be a non factor play, but they were still
turning into bigger plays. And you're looking at and you're like,
(11:30):
see that linebacker right there, if that's if that's a
power five linebacker, that's a that's a catch, and that's
a tackle. And that wasn't happening in the game last evening.
There were catches, there were plays, and those linebackers or
those corners, they weren't able to they were they were
in position like give give South Dakota their their props.
(11:52):
They were in North North Wow, I keep missing mixing
them up. They were in position to make the plays.
They were just meant they were minting, this is why
you're here and not at a power five school, and
that was like Now that became the debate was when
you get into the bigger games and the coverages are
(12:14):
the coverages, and the plays are the plays. And Deon
said it, Look, you're gonna take what the defense gives
you if you got linebackers that can handle the matchups
and you're able to drop it off to them and
the flares as a check a checkdown, and they're able
to make bigger plays out of that because you can't
make that tackle or you're throwing quick screens out to
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the out into the the you know, the edges of
the defense. If they can't make those tackles, then you
you take what they're gonna give you. But I just
think that those were certain things that popped out and
that were being discussed. When defenses have the guys that
can match up, are they going to be able to
are they going to have enough offense? Are they going
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to have enough you know, good calls in order to
be able to have the success. And again, can the
defensive front can can the defense as a whole can
they put can they put more pressure on the quarterback
and can they make bigger plays, you know, versus you know,
stopping stopping quarterbacks from being able to run and stopping
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the run altogether. Their defensive front has a lot to prove.
There was a kind of a lot left on the
table in terms of saying, Okay, they came out, this
was a dominant performance. This guy, you know, kind of
established himself as the go to guy. That's something that
you're still going to look for out of Buffalo moving forward.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, at least they were thinking about the people
who had money on Colorado at the end. You know,
I'm throwing the ball like that, giving them a chance,
you know, like everyone thinking, oh, this pant's over.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Then they're slinging it.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
We do realize Colorado call a time out with thirty
eight seconds left, right with that forth down like that,
Like That's what I'm trying to say is the reporter
should have fallowed up and said, no, we understand the
first first down you got in that drive, but you
then had the opportunity, had you not thrown on first down,
to be able to have run the clock out just
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to see what the follow up was. Because that's the
reality of it, and like, for all the things you
just said, LeVar, here's the truth is, is this team
any different from last year? My answer is no. Offensive
live was still issue. Didn't have a running game, defense struggle.
Like we already know knew that Shaduer Sanders was one
(14:33):
of the top quarterbacks. We know that Travis Hunter is
one of the best players in college football. We know
Jimmy Horn Junior is one of their playmakers, Like we
know they have weapons on the outside. There is nothing
that's really changed for them. They're still gonna be fun
to watch. They're gonna be fun to watch the entire
season because they're gonna be in dogfights and they're gonna
be able to come back in games because their passing
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game and because their skilled players. Because they if you
look at Travis Hunter and Jimmy Horn Jr. Those are
two of the better players in college football. So it
doesn't matter what defenses do, what the matchups are, They're
still going to get theirs. It just comes down to, like,
can this team help those guys out enough? And on
(15:14):
the point of Shador, the best thing about his game
and this is something that I felt watching him last
year and was talked about and discussed a ton. He's accurate,
he's all the things you're looking for in a quarterback.
His poise when you talk about the ability to deliver
a ball while getting hit, and by the way happening
time and time again, his poise is what always just
(15:37):
stood out to me. Most quarterbacks, when they get hit
as often as he does, they eventually start to feel
it their pocket presence, how they play throughout the course
of a game or a season. They start to not
trust that offensive line. He continually hangs in there, hangs
in there, and he'll wait until someone gets open, until
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someone separates, delivers a strike, take take a shot, get
right back up. I mean, it's pretty impressive to watch.
That's the one thing that you know. I think if
you look at him compared to any other quarterback in
college football, he's got that over everyone. We watched it
all last year, and so far it looks like it's
going to be that way this year.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So if they're the same team they were last year,
but the competition's a lot stiffer this year than last year,
then the results are going to be worse than last year.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Ultimately, I don't I.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Don't think it's stiffer you know, I think it's about
the same, but I think there's elements where you feel
like they they'll be able to win to me, at
least six or more games because of Shador. Like I
just I think if you if you're matching up whoever
they're playing at quarterback, you know Dylan Ryol who they
playing next week as a freshman, talented player, he could
(16:50):
go off this year maybe, but that's a guy that
I think if you're saying who would you take right now,
you take Shador Sanders that that quarterback matchup every single
a week, He's gonna have the advantage, and there's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
A few times. I mean maybe outside of Utah you
might say, Okay, Cam Rising has been playing college football
for everything.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
He's twenty five now, Like outside of maybe that matchup,
you'd say, yeah, I think shred door Sanders.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
So if that's the case, they always have a punching chance.
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it's just.
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No, you know what say?
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We tracked this story the bat for weeks upon weeks.
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The contract that didn't get done for.
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So long got us through a lot of lean times.
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Jonas irritated, Q two no aid.
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You know some people.
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But I guess those days.
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We were giving you daily updates goodbye on the drama
involving Brandon I you talk, and.
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And here we are the end of the road.
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Oh no, it's so hard to say goodbye, man, It
is not end of the road.
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That's a different group.
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No, I mean, no, same group, different song, but it
applies here.
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It does because it's the end of the road for
this topic.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Okay, Brandon Ayuk four years, one hundred and twenty million
dollar extension with the Niners, seventy six million dollars guaranteed, just.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
A hell of a run.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Then I think we're going to look back on and
be like, you know what the summer of twenty twenty
four was. It wasn't an anthem, It wasn't a song.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
It was the summer a Yuk.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It was Ayuk? Are you kidding me? His deal is
done and he's in san Fran for the Four Seeds again?
Are you kidding me? The deal is done and he's
not san.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Fran what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I don't know the deal is done.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't know. I'm thinking Italian mobster family, just a
little distressed.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
But like East Coast, like New York? Is that sounded yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Joys he's talking about he's using that joys. It's done.
Forget about it, forget about it?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Are you kidding men? One more years?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Let them get them some chicken palm.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There was a there was a little bit of a
drama attached to the contract, because of course there was. Yeah,
Adam Schefter sent out a tweet saying yeah, in essence,
this was the same deal that they balked at a
couple of weeks ago. But they came back and decided
to accept the offer from the Niners, and Brandon Ayuk's
agent pushed back and said, well, that's not factually correct,
(23:32):
trying to make it seem like, well, no, we played
hardball and we ended up winning in the end.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Who knows.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Here's what I love about this too, When agents are
willing to put out something public like that, I.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Went ahead and send him a message.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
I said, oh, okay, what changed, Like, if you want to
put it out there, that's something changed, tell us, like,
helps someone else communicate your message to what changed? Because clearly,
if you look out Adam Schefter put out a tweet,
he talks about league sources, so he obviously got his
information from the forty nine ers, whereas you know, the
(24:07):
Brendon and Ayuk side didn't get there like play out
their side of the messaging at least based on what
Schefter reported. So you know, Ryan Williams, if you listen
like we're here to support you, and brendan Ayuk just
tell us what changed the deal and will gladly help
share your message. But this is the difference between when
you know schefter has ties to a certain agent or
(24:29):
a certain team. You see the difference in the messaging
because now this looks like a win for San Francisco,
does it not? Yes, when in reality it's probably more
of a win for a brendan Ayuk staying in San
Francisco and brought per win than Deebo Samuel who now
most likely this will be his final year in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And it was pretty obvious when he was turning down
trade destinations like Cleveland, this is where he ultimately always
wanted to end up. And they got it done and
it's a nice contract and he gets paid and everybody's happy,
and now they focus on Trent Williams. But like the
back and forth of like yeah, but but it was
on our terms, No, we get It's like, dude, who cares?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
The guy got paid? Like he got paid and it's over.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Your new Bundy averages thirty million a year, Like, be
happy with it, Be happy with where we're at.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
You're who the team is gonna compete for Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I mean, you gotta feed your family, man.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You know, you gotta be mindful of the fact that
when you're going for these new contracts, you just gotta
make enough money to be able to you know, you
got to keep food on the table, man.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
That's that's that's right. Sure, how goes?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And just you just got to make sure that you're
keeping those things in the proper context and in the
proper perspective, because if you ain't doing it the right way, man,
you end up hungry.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That's all I'm gonna say. Close mouths, don't get fad.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
You know what I mean far is he has he
got enough to feed his family? Thing?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know, I'm gonna just say he needed to make sure.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yes, yes, yep. I'm not even going to try to
pontificate on it or try to bring in any type
of real intellectual type of knowledge that the simple answer is, yeah,
he got that money.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Dog man. What a run we had with this though,
So that's up scratch what are.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
You talking about? Hey, I don't included a part of that.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Look, come on, we're a team here, all right. We
all did this together.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You can't have good without evil. You gotta have both sides.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
You can't have heads without tails.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You was on that coin, you, you was on that
conversational coin.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
We're all doing this together.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't think y'all were together. I don't think you
were technically together. Jonas, you were heads and Q was tails.
You know, he didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You did.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It made for interesting radio. It was very entertaining to
me first as as a very close up observer and
spectator of what was taking place. And now I don't
get to do it anymore. I knew how uncomfortable this
topic make you, and I enjoyed it, not because it
made him uncomfortable or I want to see Q uncomfortable.
(27:19):
It's just that it's fun listening to him have a
problem with you, and and you thinking that it's fun
him having a problem with you is just entertaining. Here's
here's the real real that's the real story that's coming
to an end. That's that's the real song that should
be sung.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
But here's the real battle.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like we've been doing this for so long that if
we've if either one of us gives an indication that
we're fed up with something. The other guy's going to
show it to death, like minded into the dirt. Oh yeah,
and that's how this is. Like, that's how this is
going to go.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Or just don't show up at all, you know, geez.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I thought him off with the second song, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Or right hand by Rington, or just don't deal with it.
Just I'm just not dealing with y'all at all. I'm
taking an extra break now, y'all don't pay me enough
to deal with this.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Thankfully, we do have some one left over, Jamar Chase,
step right up.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Is this going to bleed into the season? Okay? Is
this going to happen?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because he's our only hope if we want to hold
out to bleed into the season.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Your hope, that hour, your hope.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There was a report that came out I think it
was Ian Rappapord who said that Jamar Chase wants either
the exact dollar amount of Justin Jefferson or a penny
more like, that's his goal now. Whether or not he
gets that goal and reaches that goal with the Cincinnati Bengals,
who the hell knows. But that was a report that
came out obviously, you know, their teammates, their friends, and
(29:04):
maybe he looks at that as an opportunity to kind
of have a one up on him. But that's at
least the latest on Jamar Chase still not practicing.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
All the team.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I will be honest, I would know exactly how I'd
try to handle this. If I was the Bengals organization,
I would give him that. But the reality is he's
got to play this year and next year still in
his rookie deal.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
So I would.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
I would make sure that the whole new deal and
all this stuff talks about this, you know, four year
average Annuel Sally thirty five million per year, right, and
I would. I would keep preaching that, but in reality
it would really be a six year deal and spread
it over that period of time.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And that's that's how I would get around it.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
If I was the Bengals, it would just be all
messaging all, you know, making sure my agent and I
got it, and then see if anyone actually checks out
the contract once it's filed, because that's the only way
I think they'll be able to kind of make it work.
Outside of again talking about that. It Fusion of Cash,
a private equity company could bring if the Bengals were
looking at it trying to give a big signing bonus
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to help reduce the cap hit in the short term.
But you can go put on some dummy years in
the back of a contract. For some of these contracts,
you can make a look however you want, because the
truth is, in two or three years that contract probably
will get restructured. You either have a player who's playing
as a number one wide receiver, one of the best
in the league, and he's gonna want more, or he's
(30:27):
gonna want you're gonna want a restructure for cap purposes,
or you're gonna be reducing it or cutting them. That's
just the truth of it because typically you don't have
guarantees in a contract past two years. If you're a quarterback, yeah,
usually it would go into year three. But for the
(30:47):
most part, for why even wide receivers hard to find
it going into.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Year three very very rare. So if that's the case,
you can, yeah, sign them up, doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
I mean, it's funny money at some point in the
back end and end of it, especially if it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, I just wonder, with all things given, if Jamar
Chase and his representation carry this into the season. What
is there is the impact of it positively in his favor? Like,
(31:25):
I just wonder what his representation is telling him. And
you know, I feel like I feel like when you
get into contract situations, it gets uncomfortable, right, It gets
uncomfortable when you talk business amongst.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
What you call yourself.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
At least you try to convince yourself once you get
to the pros that this is about family, not about business.
It's about us being a family to win ball games
and not about it really being a business. But when
the business becomes a part of that, how does that uncomfortable?
You know, conversation and that feeling, How does that? How
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does that play out? More often than not, the player
isn't there, so it's uncomfortable without it being there. Jamar
Chase has been there. He's walking on the practice field,
he's walking amongst his teammates. Sometimes you'll have in scenarios
like this, a teammate will come out and listen. It's
(32:25):
not that they're necessarily against you. It's just that they
want to win and they want to see their teammate
back on the team, especially a teammate that's good enough
to be in a situation where they're in a contract,
you know, situation with with the franchise.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
They generally may shame you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Like you need to get back in Okay, play times over,
we're getting to regular season.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Okay, let's wrap this thing up, dad.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And it's usually you'll you'll hear a few, you know,
guys that kind of come out and say, you know,
it's it'll work out, you know, and and but you
need to get back you know, you need to get
back into practice, you need to get back into camp.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You need to get back with the team.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
He's amongst the team and he's walking around in street clothes,
and I just wonder what's the feeling and listen, I
think athletes are a lot different. I think the approach
I'm talking about is a more old school approach, like
guys that were probably born, you know, in the early
seventies and in the sixties. That's probably the type of
(33:27):
guys that would have those things to say. Doesn't seem
like that's how guys are now. And so I would
be curious to know what is what is the mood
of it with Jamar Chase. As it gets closer and
closer to regular season. What is the mood of it,
especially when you have a head coach that he's thinking
(33:50):
it's one thing and it wasn't that it's something totally different.
He has to come back and clean up and clear
up what it is that he thought it was and
what he's and it just seems as though guys are
on different pages somewhat on where this is all supposed
to end up in where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
How do you get through this?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
You know?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
How do you get through this?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think it's obviously, like a lot of things in life,
through communication, and there's one way really to communicate, like
in a situation like this.
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It's kind of interesting that you would say that, because
you know, we all represented by rapid radios, you know,
and if if one of us had our rapid radio
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rapid radio, I think it would kind of go something
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Speaker 11 (36:41):
Good morning everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good
morning LeVar. Hey guys, in case you missed this, I
might have missed this, uh show. Hey o Tani, you
know his dog throughout the first pitch the other day.
I don't know if you saw that decay Everyone's favorite
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Mean he ran it ran into the mount. He didn't
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Wow, no thumbs a thumbist?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Is is that where we're getting to? Now? Dogs running
out the first pitch?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Did you see the line for his bobblehead. Yes, people
were in line at five thirty in the morning to
try and get into Dodger Stadium for a seven pm
first pitch to get his bobble Shoeyo Tani's bobblehead because
he was with his dog in the bobblehead figure.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, which is why I bring this story up.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
Is, Uh, those bubbleheads are going for only three hundred dollars,
but if you wanted to get his first ever bubblehead
six only three hundred.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I thought that was weird too. I thought it would
be a lot more.
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It will go up, think I think you you thought
it was like expensive, right?
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, three hundreds a lot of money.
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It's a bobblehead, Lee.
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Dudes, you saw the line, dudes.
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I did not see the lines.
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Dude, dude, you saw the lines.
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For the rest of the show.
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Brady, is he getting that work today?
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He's gonna get that work today. Less. That's all we know.
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Lee was seeing lines last.
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Human.
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That's what it is right now, dudes.
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Malfunction, malfunction, the lap malfunction. I'm sorry, be wrong. Thousand
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on a show last night.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Now should we start with Colorado and Prime and that
whole scene.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
I mean that's the headline, right.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, of course it is. Everybody's going to watch.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Because Shador is fun as hell to watch man and.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Makes place man.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Travis Hunter is fun.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
And hell to watch makes place. I just hope those
guys make it through healthy. That's it. It's all I'm wondering.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
If one of them goes down and I don't know that.
I mean Horn hornballed out to Horn Horn Junior, Horn Junior.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
M Yeah, yeah, Jimmy Horn j.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Jimmy Horton J Yeah, and he balled out too. But uh,
I guess, I guess you always can. We can always
give props to where the props are doing, and the
stars showed up for Colorado in that game. But I
still think the concerns of last year are still some
of the concerns of this year. Right the quarterback for
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North Dakota had too much time at times, he was
too elusive for the defense. I say that was an issue.
They were able to make plays when they needed to
make plays against Colorado's defense. I just think the biggest
storyline in that game coming out of that game is
(03:33):
one if Shador, if Shador can do what he did
in this opening game, which you assume them taking a
tougher opponent, even though it's not a big, big opponent
as a tougher opponent, they did take on a competitive opponent.
First games are going to be difficult, but if Shador
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and Travis Hunter and Horn, if they can deliver that way,
this team should be in pretty much every game that
they play in. They need a running game. They definitely
need to find their running game because that's going to
be something that's important in the Big twelve. And their
defense has to be better. I mean, that was those
(04:19):
were my takeaways from the game.
Speaker 6 (04:23):
Well, I'll say this quickly.
Speaker 7 (04:25):
They will always have a shot because of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
I mean, I'll continue to keep saying this.
Speaker 7 (04:33):
The quarterback position at the college level will always give
your team a chance, and he's one of the best
in college football. We kind of talked about this. I
don't know if it was earlier this week or maybe
last week, but it'll be Carson Beck. It'll be him,
and maybe there'll be some others that we talk about
in regards to the top of the first round, but
you know, that's the type of talent he is, and
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Travis Hunter and Jimmy Horn Junior, and a fear that
the players too on their roster are good enough, this
old possession to help them.
Speaker 6 (05:02):
Win some football games.
Speaker 7 (05:03):
But as you if, as you're basically touching on, is this,
this team hasn't really changed a ton from last year.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
It's a team that's built off of Shador Sanders.
Speaker 7 (05:16):
Carrying them and then being able to do enough defensively
to win a game. And that was a game where
I think every single weakness you saw in Colorado last
year is still there.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
The protection at times wasn't great.
Speaker 7 (05:32):
I mean, that was North Dakota State, it's not Nebraska
who they played next week. North Dakota State and greated
that's a really good program at that level. But they're
going to be in for a big time challenge if
the offensive line doesn't improve, and on the outside, Nebraska
won't be able to match up better. Nebraska should be
able to take away certain pieces of the of that offense.
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So all the things you touched on, they're gonna have
to do if they want to continue continue to keep
building momentum, because that's the one thing I'd say that's
so big in college football is momentum, and you see
it throughout games. You know, I really thought Colorado in
the fourth quarter starting to take away the momentum. But
the thing that stood out too, that's a bit of
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an issue, is what the hell were they doing throwing
on first intent?
Speaker 6 (06:22):
No kidding, they could have meeled.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
The ball three times. The game was over and North
Dakota State had a shot at the very end it
was I mean, it's those sorts of decisions that we
could talk about the glitz, the glamour and what of
the program, and then there's just talking ball and you
leave people scratching their heads going why do they do that?
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They literally had the game in hand. They never had
to punt the ball back. That's the sort of thing
that maybe maybe North Dakota State won't beat you, some
will beat you if you give them another opportunity like that,
if they're able to handle it better. So you know, look,
Colorado is going to be a team that's BO eligible.
I think they'll win more than six games, but if
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they really want to be one of the top of the
Big twelve, they've got to do a better drop coaching.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
They got some help, I thought from the refs for
some no calls.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
At the end of the game, they spotted the ball
and the clock was stopped at fifteen seconds.
Speaker 6 (07:23):
The ref then picks it up to move it back.
Speaker 7 (07:25):
It takes another six seconds off the clock from North
Dakota State then to snap the ball and spike it.
It was one of the most egregious things I've seen
an official do. Amongst them a bunch of the miscalls.
So there's a lot of things that helped Colorado get
that win last night. At the end, it doesn't matter,
but they need some big time improvement from week one
to week two.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Deon Sanders spoke afterwards about the decision to throw on
that final drive.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I mean, you got to understand you got to take
what people give you. You can't take what you want
and it's not there. I mean, what do you do
for four and forty five yards? You think we're upset?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Right? Who upset? See over? They ever run a game?
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Well?
Speaker 6 (08:06):
The pass the game look pretty darn good today.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
So let's let's let's be appreciative and thankful that we
got one of the premier guys in college footballs spending it.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
We're gonna run the ball, We're gonna do that.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
We're gonna have a lot more ballance. Today was just
that type of day. You got to take what they
give you. But in that situation like too and stuff,
do you want to run the clock down?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean you won't.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
For no, No, you want first downs? Right if you
want to run a clock down. They got a five
man box. I mean they got five five down. Like
you gotta look out there and say, okay, I got
one on one right here. I haven't seen one on
one the whole game. So I gotta do what I
gotta do. The move these change and that's what that is.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, I mean, I'll let you have that cue. I mean,
I understand what he's saying. I do understand, like getting
a first down the game is over, but.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I'll let you have a Q. I'll let you have it.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
I mean, it's just it's bath. It's not complicated, it's math.
I mean they could have ran the clock out. Everyone
understands the objective, but you still could have ran the
clock out given their lack of timeout to give it
where you had the football.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean if your reasoning is is five man
down because you know they're going to try to during
Victory's formation, Yeah, and that's that's that's what I'll say.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
And he's right.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
He spends it and then Q you you mentioned it. Chador.
Shador spends the ball. I mean he he can he
can play.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
He can also run too, right, He's alright running.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
I mean he can he can buy himself some time.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I mean, the one thing that really stood out to me,
that really jumped out at me about Shador Sanders is
that he's he was delivering. He was delivering some beautiful
balls under some serious duress. Like he was getting hit.
Like a couple of the big plays he made during
this game, he was getting hit the same time he
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was releasing the ball.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
He looks bigger, doesn't he. He bulked up, right, he looks.
Speaker 6 (10:04):
A little bigger. He's growing a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, I mean, I thought they were impressive. I thought
the offense in the passing game was impressive. I was
not in in Prime said it. Coach Prime said, listen,
they need to improve their running game. I looked at
some of the plays. I looked over him again a
little bit, some of the plays that and it was
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interesting being in I'm here in State.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
College, and I was with some of my you know, some.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Of the old heads. Yeah yeah, we are. Matter of fact,
you know, Q will talk about that. Qus and Morgan
town so he's going to see my dudes. Well yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
There were some former players.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
And I was at a Spikes baseball game yesterday shouts
out to the state college Spikes, And the first thing
that guys were saying, which I thought was an interesting observation,
was once they if you want want to see the
difference or understand the difference between a major and a
mid like a Power five versus like a mid major,
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and like lower levels, you'd see like plays where there'd
be they were taking advantage of one on one situations
and the defender would actually be close enough for it
to be a non factor play, but they were still
turning into bigger plays. And you're looking at and you're like,
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see that linebacker right there, if that's if that's a
power five linebacker, that's a that's a catch, and that's
a tackle. And that wasn't happening in the game last evening.
There were catches, there were plays, and those linebackers or
those corners, they weren't able to they were they were
in position like give give South Dakota their their props.
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They were in North North Wow, I keep missing mixing
them up. They were in position to make the plays.
They were just meant they were minting, this is why
you're here and not at a power five school, and
that was like Now that became the debate was when
you get into the bigger games and the coverages are
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the coverages, and the plays are the plays. And Deon
said it, Look, you're gonna take what the defense gives
you if you got linebackers that can handle the matchups
and you're able to drop it off to them and
the flares as a check a checkdown, and they're able
to make bigger plays out of that because you can't
make that tackle or you're throwing quick screens out to
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the out into the the you know, the edges of
the defense. If they can't make those tackles, then you
you take what they're gonna give you. But I just
think that those were certain things that popped out and
that were being discussed. When defenses have the guys that
can match up, are they going to be able to
are they going to have enough offense? Are they going
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to have enough you know, good calls in order to
be able to have the success. And again, can the
defensive front can can the defense as a whole can
they put can they put more pressure on the quarterback
and can they make bigger plays, you know, versus you know,
stopping stopping quarterbacks from being able to run and stopping
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the run altogether. Their defensive front has a lot to prove.
There was a kind of a lot left on the
table in terms of saying, Okay, they came out, this
was a dominant performance. This guy, you know, kind of
established himself as the go to guy. That's something that
you're still going to look for out of Buffalo moving forward.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I mean, at least they were thinking about the people
who had money on Colorado at the end. You know,
I'm throwing the ball like that, giving them a chance,
you know, like everyone thinking, oh, this pant's over.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Then they're slinging it.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
We do realize Colorado call a time out with thirty
eight seconds left, right with that forth down like that,
Like That's what I'm trying to say is the reporter
should have fallowed up and said, no, we understand the
first first down you got in that drive, but you
then had the opportunity, had you not thrown on first down,
to be able to have run the clock out just
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to see what the follow up was. Because that's the
reality of it, and like, for all the things you
just said, LeVar, here's the truth is, is this team
any different from last year? My answer is no. Offensive
live was still issue. Didn't have a running game, defense struggle.
Like we already know knew that Shaduer Sanders was one
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of the top quarterbacks. We know that Travis Hunter is
one of the best players in college football. We know
Jimmy Horn Junior is one of their playmakers, Like we
know they have weapons on the outside. There is nothing
that's really changed for them. They're still gonna be fun
to watch. They're gonna be fun to watch the entire
season because they're gonna be in dogfights and they're gonna
be able to come back in games because their passing
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game and because their skilled players. Because they if you
look at Travis Hunter and Jimmy Horn Jr. Those are
two of the better players in college football. So it
doesn't matter what defenses do, what the matchups are, They're
still going to get theirs. It just comes down to, like,
can this team help those guys out enough? And on
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the point of Shador, the best thing about his game
and this is something that I felt watching him last
year and was talked about and discussed a ton. He's accurate,
he's all the things you're looking for in a quarterback.
His poise when you talk about the ability to deliver
a ball while getting hit, and by the way happening
time and time again, his poise is what always just
(15:37):
stood out to me. Most quarterbacks, when they get hit
as often as he does, they eventually start to feel
it their pocket presence, how they play throughout the course
of a game or a season. They start to not
trust that offensive line. He continually hangs in there, hangs
in there, and he'll wait until someone gets open, until
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someone separates, delivers a strike, take take a shot, get
right back up. I mean, it's pretty impressive to watch.
That's the one thing that you know. I think if
you look at him compared to any other quarterback in
college football, he's got that over everyone. We watched it
all last year, and so far it looks like it's
going to be that way this year.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So if they're the same team they were last year,
but the competition's a lot stiffer this year than last year,
then the results are going to be worse than last year.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Ultimately, I don't I.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
Don't think it's stiffer you know, I think it's about
the same, but I think there's elements where you feel
like they they'll be able to win to me, at
least six or more games because of Shador. Like I
just I think if you if you're matching up whoever
they're playing at quarterback, you know Dylan Ryol who they
playing next week as a freshman, talented player, he could
(16:50):
go off this year maybe, but that's a guy that
I think if you're saying who would you take right now,
you take Shador Sanders that that quarterback matchup every single
a week, He's gonna have the advantage, and there's gonna be.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
A few times. I mean maybe outside of Utah you
might say, Okay, Cam Rising has been playing college football
for everything.
Speaker 7 (17:10):
He's twenty five now, Like outside of maybe that matchup,
you'd say, yeah, I think shred door Sanders.
Speaker 6 (17:16):
So if that's the case, they always have a punching chance.
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Speaker 1 (20:27):
From now Oh you know, uh, who's uh, who's efforting you?
Speaker 2 (20:34):
Okay, all right, okay, we are all right, all right,
all right, we are.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Efforting alright, alright, alright, alright.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
You know guys, uh, all good things. What must come
to an end? And what it's tell us? Oh no,
it's just.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Oh no, sing Jonas, Oh.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
No, you know what say?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
We tracked this story the bat for weeks upon weeks.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
The contract that didn't get done for.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
So long got us through a lot of lean times.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
Jonas irritated, Q two no aid.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
You know some people.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
But I guess those days.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
We're arguing about breakdancing in the Olympics is so hot.
We were giving you daily updates goodbye on the drama
involving Brandon I you talk, and.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
And here we are the end of the road.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Oh no, it's so hard to say goodbye, man, It
is not end of the road.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
That's a different group.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, I mean, no, same group, different song, but it
applies here.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
It does because it's the end of the road for
this topic.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Okay, Brandon Ayuk four years, one hundred and twenty million
dollar extension with the Niners, seventy six million dollars guaranteed, just.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
A hell of a run.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Then I think we're going to look back on and
be like, you know what the summer of twenty twenty
four was. It wasn't an anthem, It wasn't a song.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
It was the summer a Yuk.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
It was Ayuk? Are you kidding me? His deal is
done and he's in san Fran for the Four Seeds again?
Are you kidding me? The deal is done and he's
not san.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
Fran what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
I don't know the deal is done.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I don't know. I'm thinking Italian mobster family, just a
little distressed.
Speaker 6 (22:48):
But like East Coast, like New York? Is that sounded yeah?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Joys he's talking about he's using that joys. It's done.
Forget about it, forget about it?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Are you kidding men? One more years?
Speaker 5 (23:08):
Now?
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Let them get them some chicken palm.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
There was a there was a little bit of a
drama attached to the contract, because of course there was. Yeah,
Adam Schefter sent out a tweet saying yeah, in essence,
this was the same deal that they balked at a
couple of weeks ago. But they came back and decided
to accept the offer from the Niners, and Brandon Ayuk's
agent pushed back and said, well, that's not factually correct,
(23:32):
trying to make it seem like, well, no, we played
hardball and we ended up winning in the end.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Who knows.
Speaker 7 (23:37):
Here's what I love about this too, When agents are
willing to put out something public like that, I.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Went ahead and send him a message.
Speaker 7 (23:46):
I said, oh, okay, what changed, Like, if you want to
put it out there, that's something changed, tell us, like,
helps someone else communicate your message to what changed? Because clearly,
if you look out Adam Schefter put out a tweet,
he talks about league sources, so he obviously got his
information from the forty nine ers, whereas you know, the
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Brendon and Ayuk side didn't get there like play out
their side of the messaging at least based on what
Schefter reported. So you know, Ryan Williams, if you listen
like we're here to support you, and brendan Ayuk just
tell us what changed the deal and will gladly help
share your message. But this is the difference between when
you know schefter has ties to a certain agent or
(24:29):
a certain team. You see the difference in the messaging
because now this looks like a win for San Francisco,
does it not? Yes, when in reality it's probably more
of a win for a brendan Ayuk staying in San
Francisco and brought per win than Deebo Samuel who now
most likely this will be his final year in San Francisco.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
And it was pretty obvious when he was turning down
trade destinations like Cleveland, this is where he ultimately always
wanted to end up. And they got it done and
it's a nice contract and he gets paid and everybody's happy,
and now they focus on Trent Williams. But like the
back and forth of like yeah, but but it was
on our terms, No, we get It's like, dude, who cares?
Speaker 2 (25:10):
The guy got paid? Like he got paid and it's over.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Your new Bundy averages thirty million a year, Like, be
happy with it, Be happy with where we're at.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
You're who the team is gonna compete for Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
I mean, you gotta feed your family, man.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
You know, you gotta be mindful of the fact that
when you're going for these new contracts, you just gotta
make enough money to be able to you know, you
got to keep food on the table, man.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
That's that's that's right. Sure, how goes?
Speaker 4 (25:38):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
And just you just got to make sure that you're
keeping those things in the proper context and in the
proper perspective, because if you ain't doing it the right way, man,
you end up hungry.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
That's all I'm gonna say. Close mouths, don't get fad.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
You know what I mean far is he has he
got enough to feed his family? Thing?
Speaker 4 (25:59):
You know, I'm gonna just say he needed to make sure.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Yes, yes, yep. I'm not even going to try to
pontificate on it or try to bring in any type
of real intellectual type of knowledge that the simple answer is, yeah,
he got that money.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
Dog man. What a run we had with this though,
So that's up scratch what are.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
You talking about? Hey, I don't included a part of that.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Look, come on, we're a team here, all right. We
all did this together.
Speaker 4 (26:30):
You can't have good without evil. You gotta have both sides.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
You can't have heads without tails.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
You was on that coin, you, you was on that
conversational coin.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
We're all doing this together.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
I don't think y'all were together. I don't think you
were technically together. Jonas, you were heads and Q was tails.
You know, he didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You did.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
It made for interesting radio. It was very entertaining to
me first as as a very close up observer and
spectator of what was taking place. And now I don't
get to do it anymore. I knew how uncomfortable this
topic make you, and I enjoyed it, not because it
made him uncomfortable or I want to see Q uncomfortable.
(27:19):
It's just that it's fun listening to him have a
problem with you, and and you thinking that it's fun
him having a problem with you is just entertaining. Here's
here's the real real that's the real story that's coming
to an end. That's that's the real song that should
be sung.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
But here's the real battle.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like we've been doing this for so long that if
we've if either one of us gives an indication that
we're fed up with something. The other guy's going to
show it to death, like minded into the dirt. Oh yeah,
and that's how this is. Like, that's how this is
going to go.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Or just don't show up at all, you know, geez.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
I thought him off with the second song, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Or right hand by Rington, or just don't deal with it.
Just I'm just not dealing with y'all at all. I'm
taking an extra break now, y'all don't pay me enough
to deal with this.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Thankfully, we do have some one left over, Jamar Chase,
step right up.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Is this going to bleed into the season? Okay? Is
this going to happen?
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Because he's our only hope if we want to hold
out to bleed into the season.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
Your hope, that hour, your hope.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
There was a report that came out I think it
was Ian Rappapord who said that Jamar Chase wants either
the exact dollar amount of Justin Jefferson or a penny
more like, that's his goal now. Whether or not he
gets that goal and reaches that goal with the Cincinnati Bengals,
who the hell knows. But that was a report that
came out obviously, you know, their teammates, their friends, and
(29:04):
maybe he looks at that as an opportunity to kind
of have a one up on him. But that's at
least the latest on Jamar Chase still not practicing.
Speaker 6 (29:11):
All the team.
Speaker 7 (29:12):
I will be honest, I would know exactly how I'd
try to handle this. If I was the Bengals organization,
I would give him that. But the reality is he's
got to play this year and next year still in
his rookie deal.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
So I would.
Speaker 7 (29:25):
I would make sure that the whole new deal and
all this stuff talks about this, you know, four year
average Annuel Sally thirty five million per year, right, and
I would. I would keep preaching that, but in reality
it would really be a six year deal and spread
it over that period of time.
Speaker 6 (29:43):
And that's that's how I would get around it.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
If I was the Bengals, it would just be all
messaging all, you know, making sure my agent and I
got it, and then see if anyone actually checks out
the contract once it's filed, because that's the only way
I think they'll be able to kind of make it work.
Outside of again talking about that. It Fusion of Cash,
a private equity company could bring if the Bengals were
looking at it trying to give a big signing bonus
(30:05):
to help reduce the cap hit in the short term.
But you can go put on some dummy years in
the back of a contract. For some of these contracts,
you can make a look however you want, because the
truth is, in two or three years that contract probably
will get restructured. You either have a player who's playing
as a number one wide receiver, one of the best
in the league, and he's gonna want more, or he's
(30:27):
gonna want you're gonna want a restructure for cap purposes,
or you're gonna be reducing it or cutting them. That's
just the truth of it because typically you don't have
guarantees in a contract past two years. If you're a quarterback, yeah,
usually it would go into year three. But for the
(30:47):
most part, for why even wide receivers hard to find
it going into.
Speaker 6 (30:50):
Year three very very rare. So if that's the case,
you can, yeah, sign them up, doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (30:56):
I mean, it's funny money at some point in the
back end and end of it, especially if it's not guaranteed.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, I just wonder, with all things given, if Jamar
Chase and his representation carry this into the season. What
is there is the impact of it positively in his favor? Like,
(31:25):
I just wonder what his representation is telling him. And
you know, I feel like I feel like when you
get into contract situations, it gets uncomfortable, right, It gets
uncomfortable when you talk business amongst.
Speaker 4 (31:39):
What you call yourself.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
At least you try to convince yourself once you get
to the pros that this is about family, not about business.
It's about us being a family to win ball games
and not about it really being a business. But when
the business becomes a part of that, how does that uncomfortable?
You know, conversation and that feeling, How does that? How
(32:04):
does that play out? More often than not, the player
isn't there, so it's uncomfortable without it being there. Jamar
Chase has been there. He's walking on the practice field,
he's walking amongst his teammates. Sometimes you'll have in scenarios
like this, a teammate will come out and listen. It's
(32:25):
not that they're necessarily against you. It's just that they
want to win and they want to see their teammate
back on the team, especially a teammate that's good enough
to be in a situation where they're in a contract,
you know, situation with with the franchise.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
They generally may shame you a little bit.
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Like you need to get back in Okay, play times over,
we're getting to regular season.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
Okay, let's wrap this thing up, dad.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
And it's usually you'll you'll hear a few, you know,
guys that kind of come out and say, you know,
it's it'll work out, you know, and and but you
need to get back you know, you need to get
back into practice, you need to get back into camp.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
You need to get back with the team.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
He's amongst the team and he's walking around in street clothes,
and I just wonder what's the feeling and listen, I
think athletes are a lot different. I think the approach
I'm talking about is a more old school approach, like
guys that were probably born, you know, in the early
seventies and in the sixties. That's probably the type of
(33:27):
guys that would have those things to say. Doesn't seem
like that's how guys are now. And so I would
be curious to know what is what is the mood
of it with Jamar Chase. As it gets closer and
closer to regular season. What is the mood of it,
especially when you have a head coach that he's thinking
(33:50):
it's one thing and it wasn't that it's something totally different.
He has to come back and clean up and clear
up what it is that he thought it was and
what he's and it just seems as though guys are
on different pages somewhat on where this is all supposed
to end up in where it's supposed to be.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
How do you get through this?
Speaker 6 (34:13):
You know?
Speaker 4 (34:14):
How do you get through this?
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I think it's obviously, like a lot of things in life,
through communication, and there's one way really to communicate, like
in a situation like this.
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Good morning everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady, Good
morning LeVar. Hey guys, in case you missed this, I
might have missed this, uh show. Hey o Tani, you
know his dog throughout the first pitch the other day.
I don't know if you saw that decay Everyone's favorite
(37:02):
dog decoy Now, yeah, I.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Mean he ran it ran into the mount. He didn't
throw it out. He doesn't have thumbs, so hardy get
a good grip.
Speaker 11 (37:09):
Wow, no thumbs a thumbist?
Speaker 6 (37:12):
Is is that where we're getting to? Now? Dogs running
out the first pitch?
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Did you see the line for his bobblehead. Yes, people
were in line at five thirty in the morning to
try and get into Dodger Stadium for a seven pm
first pitch to get his bobble Shoeyo Tani's bobblehead because
he was with his dog in the bobblehead figure.
Speaker 2 (37:34):
Yeah, which is why I bring this story up.
Speaker 11 (37:37):
Is, Uh, those bubbleheads are going for only three hundred dollars,
but if you wanted to get his first ever bubblehead
six only three hundred.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I thought that was weird too. I thought it would
be a lot more.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
It will go up, think I think you you thought
it was like expensive, right?
Speaker 6 (37:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah, three hundreds a lot of money.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
It's a bobblehead, Lee.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Dudes, you saw the line, dudes.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I did not see the lines.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Dude, dude, you saw the lines.
Speaker 6 (38:10):
For the rest of the show.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Brady, is he getting that work today?
Speaker 6 (38:15):
He's gonna get that work today. Less. That's all we know.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Lee was seeing lines last.
Speaker 6 (38:27):
Human.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
That's what it is right now, dudes.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Malfunction, malfunction, the lap malfunction. I'm sorry, be wrong. Thousand
dollars
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Brady Quinn
LaVar Arrington
Jonas Knox
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