September 2, 2024 • 37 mins
Brian Noe & Geoff Schwartz fill in for the guys and discuss Week 1 of the College Football Season, including USC’s crazy win over LSU along with HC Brian Kelly’s postgame rant.
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
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Jeff Schwartz. So it wasn't the eighty five bears last night?
You know, this wasn't historic defense from USC, but that
qualifies as defense. My friend, right, only gave up twenty
points against LSU. You think about last year, man, there
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was no defense being played whatsoever. So you'll take that
all day long from Lincoln Riley's team as they beat
LSU twenty seven to twenty to give up twenty points. Yes,
that absolutely qualifies as defense that was played last night.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Absolutely good morning. You know, they had a couple of
things they did last night that were a lot different
than other things in the Lincoln Riley era. One was
they tackled, especially on the edges. You know, some of
the transfer reportal players they got did a really great
job of in space making plays. And then the second thing,
and if you noticed a couple years on, look at
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Rally's defense of green Grass as they say that had
no USC defenders in it, and this game that wasn't
the case. That the USC defenders were where they were
supposed to be for the most part, and they were
in the right place and they knew what they were doing,
and those things go a long way, and it was
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impressive to see that, you know, the improvement they made.
I thought that LSU's offense and their game plan was
atrocious too, So I mean both things go hand in hand.
So you know, it makes sense that you know, you
have a U LSU offense that I thought did not
do a good job. A couple of the USC defense
that played a lot better than they had in the past,
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and you get a USC victory. USC. You know, well,
the thing about college trouble, I think is different than
the NFL is sort of how quickly one team is
feels like they're about to win and they just don't.
LSU in the fourth quarter is up seventeen thirteen, they're
driving with the ball and you're like, okay, well they're
going to score here twenty four to thirteen, and that's
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sort of the end of this game. And then LSU
just didn't do it, and USC took over and they
won that game. They kind of forcefully took it from LSU.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's uh, that's if you expand on that a
little bit. I'm curious what you thought exactly about the
LSU game plan. And this sounds like no pushback. It's not.
I'm just curious what you see a.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Couple of things. So LSU is the best offense line
in the country, and they played a game like their
offensive line is a Division two offensive line. In this game,
it was a ton of quick passes to the sidelines,
and at that point in the USC had sort of
figured it out in the second half, like, what why
every time they feed the ball over the middle of field, Brian,
was a completion every single time, But they did like
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four times the entire game. And LSU is just uncommitted
to the run with that offensive line, which doesn't make
any sense. Second half, you can sort of feel that
that that push, right, you sort of feel the offensive
line taking over a little bit. Right, the runs got
a little bit more. They're pushing the pile a little bit.
And then they just stopped doing it. And the last thing is,
this is maybe my least are playing football. It's the
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third and one, fourth and one. Let's hurry up to
the line of scrimmage and run inside zone from a shotgun.
And Elis, you did that third and one, six minutes left,
first down. You know now you're you're you're about midfield
and uh and you have you know you now the
clock will go get to about four minutes probably, And
instead they do the dumbest playing football. They rushed to
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the line of scrimmage. Brian, you know what plays coming,
and we're gonna run inside zone from shotgun and us
knew what play was coming. Stuffed Elis you. I mean,
I think about all the options you have on third
and one as a play caller, and you try to
hurry up and get and fool a Division one top
twenty five defense. No one's fooled by that. Everyone knows
what's coming. And the last part too, And I think
this is a lot of coaches have these game manage issues.
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Looking rightly, by the way, it's not avoid of game
management problems. But after a two minute it's not called
two warning right, two minute time out?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh, I have a rant on that, mister.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So two minute time out. You know, USC had one
time out, right, and d LSU tried to make them
use their one time out. No, they threw the ball.
Nutsmart threw the ball five feet away from the open
wide receiver, and then he threw the next pass eight
feet over the guy's head. And that was and they waited.
They took six seconds to call two plays and us
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he kept their time out. Like it's just these things,
these game management issues they had. I just was uninspired
by the game plan they acted like in look, nutsmyer
might not be that good. I kept seeing tweets like
nutsmier Man, he's kicking butt. I go, what what what
what are you talking about? What game are you watching?
He's throwing the same passes over and over again to
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the sidelines. Miller Moss played much better than the nutsmer
in my opinion, but I just was unimpressed by ls
US offensive game plan. They should have been able to
do more and they just didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
No fair enough. I side note, I think Miller Moss
is like the oldest how what is he like? Twenty
one twenty? Yeah, I think he's the oldest twenty one
year old on earth? Is that just the me thing?
Or Miller does he not look old like in the
postgame press conferences? Or twenty two years old by the
way right now? But anyway, he did play very well
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and he did help me win a prop bet. So
I'm very fond of Miller Moss right now. A little
end game, he would get to three hundred yards passing
hey Man when the game was on the line. Jeff,
you're right, fourth quarter, right, LSU out. LSU got outscored
fourteen to three in the fourth quarter, and Miller Moss
was a big reason why. Miller Moss played great down
the stretch. And there's just so many different things to
(06:45):
get to how about this with It's interesting that you
talked about the game plan and how els you look
specifically on offense, and that can certainly be directed some
of that criticism toward Brian Kelly. There's no doubt about that.
And Brian Kelly in the postgame press conference, we get
a table slam. He's like, I'm just like, you know,
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like a dnnis screen. Remember the Dennis table slam. We
all listen to Brian Kelly after the game. LSU loses
again their fifth straight season opening loss, and here's what
he had to say about LSU fading down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's what I said to the team.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I said, we had some guys played their butts off tonight, and.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We're sitting here again.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
We're sitting here again talking about the same things about
not finishing when you have an opponent.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
In a position to put them away.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
But what we're doing on the sideline is feeling like
the game's over, and I'm so angry about it that
I got to do something about it. I'm not doing
a good enough job as a coach, and I got
to coach him better because it's unacceptable for us not
to have found a way to win this football game.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's ridicul kill us and it's crazy, that's ridiculous crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
He knows he felt the same thing I did like
this game was this game should have been over and
ls you just didn't execute down the stretch. They didn't
make the right plays and that cost them an opportunity
to win this game. And again, I don't think it's
anything crazy to say that USC played well, but els
You have the opportunity to put them away and just
didn't do it. And now they've lost five. They've lost
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five straight UH season openers now and els You has played.
To be fair that they have played a tougher non
conference slate in Week one, but the same thing keeps happening,
and you have to ask yourself, why, why why camp?
You have all training camp? And look, you're not every
team played great this weekend. My Ducks certainly did not.
But you know, why does this keep happening? To to
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to Brian Kelly, teams, why can't they figure it out?
What what is it about about Week one that you're
not as prepared to play as you are otherwise? And
to his point and what he said, those those couple
of games have come down to, like the final play
of the game. It's been you know, they have not
made the plays in those moments where Florida State specifically
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because that's who they've played the lotst couple of times
in Week one have made those plays at the end
and LSU has not.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, and listen, that's a good point that shouldn't get lost.
And it's gonna sound like excuse city, but it isn't
is they're not playing like East McGillicuddy State in the opener, right,
you think about last year was Florida State who was
on the doorstep of the playoff. This year it's USC,
who was a ranked team, has a lot of talent.
(09:39):
I believe one of those five years was Bama. Was
it not? Do we get Alabama?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
No, No, I didn't play no way. They played Bama week
no conference opponent week one. No.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, I was probably mixing
it up with it's probably USC or someone like that anyway,
But they've played a couple of tougher opponents games. But still,
but the last night was a good ex ample of
you got to take that game. They were in position
to do it and they just didn't take it. There listen, man,
it's one of these deals where they just they can't
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get out of their own way. And it's not just
USC who played very well, it was they didn't take it.
The game was there for the taking and they just
left it on the table and USC took it. And again,
props to Miller Moss and props to the defense looking
worlds better than last season, but Lsu assisted that win
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for USC, there's no doubt about that. I think that's
the thing that that kills you the most. It's one
thing to get beat, but it's another thing. We've got
the US Open going on in tennis. If the other
player just beats you, that's one thing. If you've got
a bunch of unforced errors and you're just hitting the
ball into the net and all that, that's what kills
you afterward. And I think that's what Brian Kelly's feeling
right there.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Well. I used to be able to watch the US
Open until DIRECTORV shut off my ESPN. So oh that's awesome. Yeah,
that's fun. I have YouTube TV. I basically to pay
for every single service because I need something and being
sure you can watch my sports nonetheless, Yeah, look, I
think you look at that game and you give you know,
USC credit, but there's definitely opportunities for for us who
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to win the game, and they just didn't do it.
And now look, you know, we we talk about wind
totals a lot. I think I had USC at eight
and four. Yeah, I think they're looking at at about
ten wins. Look at their schedule. They get you know,
they go to Michigan a couple of weeks. I think,
look part of and we'll get to this in a
little bit about sort of like you know, stock up
stock down factor fiction, sort of like how do we
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assess what we've seen so far this weekend? You know,
now I see people USC undefeated playoff team like guys,
slow down. It'sok a deep breath. Okay, good start for USC, certainly,
but we're not quite at that moment yet where you know,
we're going with UH, with UH, with with those thoughts.
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They had Michigan in a couple of weeks. I know
Michigan didn't look great in offense. They're going to get
better and off I think the USC again, it's just
it's gonna be tough playing in in Arboro. Okay, Yeah,
but they get Penn State Nebraska and not him all
at home.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, they do. It's funny because last night's win. It
just it causes you to look at the rest of
the schedule differently, absolutely right, because USC wins and you're like, okay, yeah,
they're at Michigan, but Michigan didn't look great. That's a
winnable game, right that they're at you know, they're at Minnesota,
that that should be a win.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
If they lose last night, I think you're looking at
it differently where you're like, man, they got to go
to Michigan. They've got wiscott Are they gonna beat Wisconsin
at home? I don't know, they got to go to Minnesota.
That's not a for sure. If they lose, you look
at it differently. But after a win, yeah, eight and
four looks a whole lot more likely after last night's
win and that Jeff, that easily could have gone the
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other way.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah. I again, I think that the people going straight
to like this is now a playoff team. You got
to take a deep breath. That's not I think. Yeah.
To me, LSU looked not like not like the thirteen
team in the country. And that's part of week one.
It's figuring out where this team stuck up again. It
didn't look to me like that was a team that
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deserved that ranking. But that's what the preseason is, right,
I mean organ to look like they deserve the third
I can't imagine or the top ten team after last weekend.
I don't know how you have them up there. So
like I, you know, wakings are what they are, doesn't
mean that they're you know, the actual way teams play
in Week one, but LS you did not look like
a top thirteen team to me. Did they do you?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
No? They didn't. That was the crazy thing because I
texted you, I'm like, I'm betting. I just bet on
this right right now. And there was a bet where
you could get to uh, you could get LSU rushing
for at least one hundred yards, and I'm like, they're
doing that. They're rushing for at least one hundred yards
and through the first half. They didn't even get to
fifty yards in the first half, and they started off
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slowly running the ball in the third quarter, and I'm thinking,
they've got it, get there. But I'd be lying to
you if I said, oh, I was completely comfortable the
whole time, right, Like they just could not run the
ball effectively, and I was shocked. I didn't think they'd
run for like two hundred yards or something crazy like that.
But one hundred yards is not that much to ask
for when they have a clear advantage in the trenches
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when they have the ball, and he just didn't. They
didn't look like they should have looked right, like running
the football and having arguably the best tackle tandem in
the country. They've got two great offensive tackles, and I
thought they got pushed around a lot, and I didn't
anticipate that happening.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So it's hard to tell sometimes who did what you
know until you watch the film, because a lot of
times that, you know, I thought us see the good
job of kind of having other defenders in the box.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, sure, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
If again, that's an offensive line issue. I just thought
LSU's offense was pretty unimaginative. Look, it's possible that they
just nutsmis just they just concerned about Nutsmyer, which is
totally fine. Yeah, they took over for Jane Daniels, and
the game plan reflected that. You know, but a lot
of times we get you know, information at camp on
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how this seems to feel about one another and how
they feel about themselves and we nothing from LSU was
about like, I don't know if if that Smyer's the guy.
So that's why I think a lot of us went
to that game thinking that nus Meyer was gonna be
able to sort of not be Jane Daniels but keep
the same magic as Jane Daniels had.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, it's super fast. I think that the easy thing
to do is just look at Okay, the running game
isn't performing as great as it should. It's the O line.
Some of that was just the running backs themselves because
they finally got some juice in the second half. They
put in this guy, John Emery Junior, who's this five
star kid, and he looked way different than Josh Williams
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and Caleb Jackson because John Emery Junior he had ten
carries for sixty one yards and he ripped off a
thirty nine yard run and it just looked different. There
were a couple of times where running back was one
on one with a dB and the dB just took
the running back down. You know what I mean, Like
you gotta win. We always talk about that you got
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a one on one, you gotta win, and a lot
of times the running backs last night didn't win when
they had opportunities to. So, yeah, the running game left
something to be desired, but I would credit USC for
a lot of that. All Right, we got a lot
to do over here, Jeff. You can tell it's a
ball buffet today. Lots of football, college and NFL. Uh So,
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We're live from the Tirack dot com studios. You know,
Jeff being compared to coach k is normally a good thing, right,
one of the greatest coaches of all time. But this
isn't flattering if it's being talked about, if you're talking
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about Dabo Sweeney, right, the Clemson head football coach. Because look,
here's the deal. They got waxed by Georgia on Saturday.
This is nasty thirty four to three and Dabo Sweeney,
it's the same old story. He just will not embrace
the transfer portal and listen, it's it's it's making an impact.
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I'm not gonna sit here and say if he embraced
the transfer portal that they would have won thirty four
to three. You know what I mean? Like it's made
an impact. Sometimes we blow it out of proportion, but
there's no doubt it is making an impact. And the
comparison with Coach K is there was a time when
Coach K was still at Duke and he just did
not embrace the one and duns. He's like, I don't
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want to go down that road. You know, they're here
for a year, then they're in the NBA. I don't
like it. And then somewhere along the line he was like,
that's not helping me out like that. And that's where
I think Dabosweeney is. I think that's the territory he's
in right now. Is the out dated thinking of coach
K that he changed and said, I'm at one of
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the best schools in the country. I can get the
top recruits and yeah, they might only be here for
one year, but there are advantages. I can't just look
at the downside of that. And that's the deal with Dabbo.
He just looks at the portal as it being a
downside instead of the upside of it. You don't want
to rely on it heavily, fine, but you gotta at
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least dabble and he's just not even doing that.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Here dabble in the portal for Dabo. Yeah, well it's
not only that, Brian. To me, it's the defiance of
it all. Sure, Like he is openly defiant about the
transfer portal, and it'd be one thing if if if
he just was like, yeah, you know, it's not for me,
and you know, well, but just sort of did it
in a more like quiet way. Right, he is like
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openly discussed it's not for him. And then on top
of that, you'll talk about other things that are the
reasons why he's winning and this is this is so,
this is the reasons why it's not And it's like, coach,
you're not winning the same level that you used to.
And he's won. He's a great coach, he's won multiple championships,
but you're not with the same level that that you
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used to as we know, and it seems like your
offense is getting worse over the years, are just staying
sort of the same, it's regressing, and you keep talking
about how this new way of college football is not
the way for you, but the results would indicate that
you haven't won the level that you wanted to, so
maybe you should participate in the new wave of college football.
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That's part of it, right, He's just the wins have
not come with the same way they used to.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I like what you're saying. Yeah, the defiance of it.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, he's like he's been defined about it.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, he really is. And this is a great quote
in the off season from Dabo that illustrates what you're
talking about. He said, honestly, every player is technically a transfer.
We just signed a whole class of guys transferring from
high school. And it's like, but Dabo. There was a
great tweet I think it was Stuart Mandel put it
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out there where he was like, it's kind of hard
to beat someone like Georgia if your transfer guys all
came from high school. Right, Like, there are some like
top of the line dudes that might have been at
Bama but didn't get the playing time and now they're
at Clemson or what have you. That's different than signing
a guy straight from high school. So you're right, I
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like that the defiance of it where it's almost like
he's doing the Brian Kelly like fist on the table
type thing. Yeah, where Dabo is just like building his brand.
He's known as the non transfer guy. He's the non
portal guy, and it's just not working. It'd be one
thing to be unconventional and it's working out. It's not
working out at all.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Correct. So that's why again I think it's just silly
for him to continue to talk about, you know, how
he's doing things differently and how it benefits him. It
has not benefited you. And I think that's the part
that a lot of people struggle with is that, you know,
we he keeps telling us it's working and his way
it works, and it did used to work, but it's
not the way college football is anymore. And Clemson, and
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this is why we talk, you know, we talk about teams.
It's all about expectations, right, did you meet the expectation
of the season. They are a team who is expected
to be a playoff team and she's to win their
conferenceenations and they have not done that recently. So the
heat is gonna it's gonna be on him, which I
think he understands, but that he doesn't seem to to
sort of embrace how how that makes his program look
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when he doesn't participate in sort of the landscape of
college football. And then again, if you if you don't win,
people were going to look at it a little bit
harder and figure out why why that is? Why are
you not participating in sort of the landscape of college football.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, and listen, change can snake up on you fast
in college football. I love this stat, Jeff. This is
the mother of misleading stats. Leading up to that Clemson
Georgia game. That is, Clemson and Georgia have combined to
win four of the last eight national championships. And it's like, oh, buddy,
it's like it makes it sound like they're kind of equals. Right,
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It's like Clemson is nowhere near Georgia's level at this stage.
They haven't been there for a handful of years. And
and they it wasn't that long ago that Clemson was dominant.
Like they're they're beating Alabama in championship games plural, you
know what I mean. Like, we're not there and we
haven't been there even close to it for a number
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of years now.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I think that, you know, I have to ask people
about sort of Dabbo and you know, he he his
story of success. He goes to he goes to Alabama.
He was a walk on, right, he goes to Alabama's
a walk on. He earns playing time. He plays, he
then works his way up the coaching ranks. He goes
to Clemson, he builds that program back up, we wins
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a championship. Like in his mind, the way that he
built up Clemson, the way he played Alabama is sort
of like the all American way to climb in the sport,
right fashion a way to climb in the sport. And
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he thinks, so he has this romantic view of college
football because of that, that's his experience has been what
he tells all his players, you work hard, you put
your head down, and you just continue to grind. You
grind it out and you grind it and that's great
at all. But not everyone has the same experience in
college sports. And he needs to understand that that that
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idea he has of the sport is making it so
that everyone's passing up Clemson right now. And you look
at Miami this past weekend. They don't subscribe to that idea.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Look at the quarterback play right, Look at Cade club Nicks,
who did not play very well against Georgia. And look
what cam Ward did against Florida. What do you think
Ward could do at Clemson? You'd look a whole lot
better than Klebnik. Oh, you know and that, Jeff, that
is the perfect breakdown because you're so right. It does
trace back to his playing days. And he looks at
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the portal as like you're cutting in line and this
senior has sweated and bled and now he's in a
position to start and this random transfer just takes his spot.
Oh it just breaks my heart, you know what I mean, Like,
that's how he that's exactly how he looks at it. Yeah,
and it's it's not benefiting Clemson.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's right. And look, they played a conference that they're
still probating to win ten games because that conference is stinky,
but they're they're no longer a threat to win championships.
I mean, Georgia look like the best team in the country.
I would not want to play Georgia. I don't want
to play them anyways, but they looked exceptionally like Georgia
this past weekend. Also playing it. Look, Atlanta in Week
one is not neutral site game. It's a Georgia home game.
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I went my Ducks played there a few years ago.
I went to the game. It's not a neutral site
game for anybody, even though it comes in much closer
to Atlanta than Eugene Oregan is. That's just I just
I like by the way that they schedule these games,
but playing Georgia week one in Atlanta is not something
that is for the week.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah. That's man. That's rough being there live too, where
you're like, like, first game of the year, A let's
garlet's and then the next thing, you know, fifty nine
to three or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It was forty nine three, it was a thirty five.
It was thirty five to three. And my son turned
to me and was like, Dad, I don't think we're
waiting this game. What give it away, buddy? Very very fun,
very fun kid moment.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, oh that's awesome right there. Great stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
And in golf, Scottie Scheffler posted a four shot victory
to take the Tour Championship, his eighth win of the
year and included a green jacket by taking the Masters
in a gold medal at the Olympics in Paris. And
with that one on Sunday, he captures the FedEx Cup
trophy and the twenty five million dollar prize that comes
along with it. Now back to joh Schwartz and Brian Oanthtirack.
Dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Thank you, Eddie, very well done. Yeah, little twenty five
million dollar cool payday for Scotti Scheffler not bad at all.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So who the better golf year? Him or Shaffley who
won two majors.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I still go with the two majors, even though man
so do I. Scotti Scheffler with seven tour wins and
an Olympic gold medal, like, that's an unbelievable year. But
the two majors, That's that's what we go by the most.
We don't go by the Nabisco Open or whatever, you
know what I mean. We don't go by the FedEx
(27:39):
Cup or we go by majors. We know Tiger has
fifteen majors. We don't know how many tour wins he has.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I'm with you. It's a it's a fun discussion right about, like,
you know, the overall success of a season versus winning
sort of the big games. Yeah, and Shaffley won more
big games.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Plus the lootie. Also, this is this is a fun
thing too. He's also closer to the career gram Slam
than Sky Scheffler. Is Cheffer's only one only but he's
one that he's won the Masters twice. Yeah, Shockley won
two other, two different majors.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah wow, that's kind of crazy to think of it
that way, but yeah, we go by the majors. That's
the that's what matters the most. So if I'll put
it this way, if I could pick which which year
I would, I would want you know, you get to
pick you. Door number one is what Scheffler accomplished. Door
number two is what Xander Schaffley accomplished. I would take Shoffley.
(28:37):
It would take the two majors, and that's hard to
pass up, like a cool twenty five million dollars Olympic gold,
one major, right, Like that's an unbelievable season, and one arrest.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's yeah, that's right. You know, what happened in this
calendar year, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It seems like it happened so long ago.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
He got arrested because and it turns out that in
this is not something that's you know, terribly uncommon, but
it turns out that what what happened was not at
all what actually happened. What was reported didn't all remotely
happen like I said, it was, Yeah, arrested.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, that's it, and then went out that morning and
still shot great. I think he shot yeah, five under
that day something like that.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Then it was the next day he was bad.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It was weird although the adrenaline of being arrested but
being in that thug life, right, that was so funny.
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, that was a random story, man, really was. But
he rebounded from that big time, like that didn't even
slow him down. So no unreal season from him. All right,
we got to get to the the interesting audio right
around the corner. Also, Jeff, I've got some prop bet
horror stories for you.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The list is growing, unfortunately here, but it's uh, it's
going to draw a laugh or two out of you
tes oh man. That don't even get me started on
that freaking guy. My Cardinals cannot hit lefties this whole season.
They've struggled hitting lefties. And I'm like, yeah, take Nestor
(30:15):
Cortes under two and a half earned runs. It sounds
ridiculously low, but this happens all the time. Like, take
a pitcher, Zra. Not to go on a whole rant here, Jeff,
but take a picture Zra that's like three five six
or something like that that's over nine innings is how
many runs you give up on average. So if you
give up three point five to six and you only
(30:38):
pitch five or six innings, right Yeah, Like the under
hits a lot, and I'm like, Oh, Nestor Cortes, a
lefty against my Cardinals. Done give me. Nestor rocked freaking rocked.
The Cardinals scored. I think they're most runs of the season.
Yesterday is the day. I was like, yeah, take the starter.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
He show's a football score fourteen.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's crazy right there. Yeah, So we'll get to the
horror stories shortly as well. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Though.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
A great audio and horror stories coming up next. We're
live from the Tirec dot Com studios on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
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Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're in for two
Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports
Radio and we're live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Man,
my girl Loraina just bringing bringing the strength to the
morning airwaves. Here, little bit master of puppets from Metallica.
(31:54):
I know Eddie's probably motioning over there right now in
the updates studio. Jeff, this isn't a what did you
listen to before games? Here? You crank up Metallica?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It was aggressive in the in the morning time. I
did not creak up Metallica.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
No, what did you do?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Uh, let's see Phil Collins, Elton John. No, it was
a mix, dude. I I put West Coast hip hop
and then some electric dance music, a little combination.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Who are your West Coast rappers? Who are your main
guys there?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Uh Tupac Dre and then Snoop and Nate Dogg. Okay
the one listening to?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Okay, like the whole like the West Side Connection kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Oh yeah, and you love West Side Connection.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And the Bay You get down with the.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Forty some some some Bay music, some forty but not
not not in the regular like I did like mac
Dre though I like, I mean, I like some Bay music,
but not It's not like I AD's on my rotation.
I don't. I don't dislike it. Very very distinct, very
very flavor. I'm gonna listening to some of it at
the gym today. I feel like it's been a long time.
(33:10):
I'll put on I'll put on like a like a
like a like a mac Jory E forty uh sort
of sort of station. I'll find one.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, then do some skull crushers listening to E forty some.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Some some fizzle dance at the gym. Ye if I
put if I put that on a speaker at the
gym at the Jewish Community Center gym here North Carolina,
it would probably be a little bit of of an issue.
But I actually kind of might ask. I might ask
for that today, you know, a loud speaker.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It just makes me think of I'm sorry we go
down this road for a second here, but it just
makes me think of Damian Lillard. So dame. This was
during the bubble, remember the NBA postseason, in the bubble
and all that, and uh, he was dancing mid game
to blow the whistle, and he explained that I don't
(34:07):
know if I can find the This is great. Here's
a little portion of it on NBC Sports Northwest.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Okay, coming out of he got the two short plane
in the background and he goes mere.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Dancing, right, He's just dancing during the game because he
hit like a logo three and he's dancing as the
Lakers are going to the other end of the court.
It was hilarious and he even talked about it. I
don't know if I can find the audio for you,
but he was like, yeah, that's the East Oakland anthem.
I just had to go dumb for a minute over there.
(34:38):
It's a vain I love that fantastic. You could be
like Damian Lillard love for the Bay Area rap scene
over there. Okay, so I owe you some interesting audio.
This is Angel Reese. So she became the w NBA
seasons the single season Yeah, NBA WNBA rebounding leader. I'm
(35:00):
sure there's a smoother way to say that. She's got
the most rebounds of anybody in a single season. Here,
and she talked about why she's a great rebounder. Jeff.
After yesterday's they lost to the Links, but here's Angel
Reaes talking about her rebounding powers.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, coming into it, I mean I just
knew my motor offensive rebounds and defensive rebounds is something
that I know I can always do. I knew it
was gonna translate right away, and that's something that a
lot of players don't want to do. A lot of
people think it's because I get my own rebounds, but
statistically it's not. A lot of people think it's because
I'm the tallest on the court when I'm not the
tallest on the court. So just being able to go
down there and being able to bang doing things that
(35:35):
a lot of people don't want to do. Defense and
rebounding wins championships. And I've won championships at every level
by just doing that. So coming into the league before
I sharpen up on my offensive thing, just being able
to come in and have that on my shoulder, it's
something I can always do. It is something that I
knew would translate.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Hey man, like it's one of these things. I hear that,
and I think there are legitimate criticisms of Angel Rees.
You know, not the greatest shooter, like does have touch
close to the rim, She's shooting a very low field
goal percentage. Those are fair criticisms, But what she's pushing
back on the idea of oh, I just rebound because
(36:11):
I'm taller than everybody. Like, that's just the dumb criticism.
That's not true. She's great at what she does. Like,
if you want to poke holes in her game, don't
poke holes when it comes to rebounding. She's fantastic when
it comes to that. If you want to talk about
a lack of touch and lack of shooting ability, fine
would be my guest. That makes sense, But don't poke
holes in the rebounding. There are no holes to poke.
(36:32):
She's doing a great job. She's the single season WNBA
leader as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
She's doing a fantastic job rebound it. And and that's
why I think the sort of lack of offensive skill
to me is so confounded, because when you watch her rebound, Brian,
it is a lot of just she's not she's not
the highest jumper, right, Just she's not setting records for verticals. Yeah,
but the but the way she's able to time up
(36:58):
her job. But she's got super long arm, so she's
able to she's a again, fantastic rebounder. The way he's
able to time up went to jump, went to tip
it up, And oftentimes she's tipping up to herself, like
she's hitting the ball up to make sure she can
get another chance to go grab it. And her ability
to do all this and then feel so unskilled on
(37:20):
the offense side of the ball that I think is
the confounding part for a lot of us. It's like you,
you obviously are very skilled basketball player, and the offensive
part may or may not come. I don't know, but yeah,
you cannot knock her for her rebound and she has,
even if you want to say she's rebound some of
her own misses still, but Brian, she set the record
for most rebounds. Ever, it's not just because she has
(37:41):
her own missus. That's a silly thing to bring.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Up, and no doubt she certainly deserves credit for that. Yeah,
all right, come it up next. One team made the
worst possible mistake last season.
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Jeff Schwartz. So it wasn't the eighty five bears last night?
You know, this wasn't historic defense from USC, but that
qualifies as defense. My friend, right, only gave up twenty
points against LSU. You think about last year, man, there
(01:21):
was no defense being played whatsoever. So you'll take that
all day long from Lincoln Riley's team as they beat
LSU twenty seven to twenty to give up twenty points. Yes,
that absolutely qualifies as defense that was played last night.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Absolutely good morning. You know, they had a couple of
things they did last night that were a lot different
than other things in the Lincoln Riley era. One was
they tackled, especially on the edges. You know, some of
the transfer reportal players they got did a really great
job of in space making plays. And then the second thing,
and if you noticed a couple years on, look at
(01:57):
Rally's defense of green Grass as they say that had
no USC defenders in it, and this game that wasn't
the case. That the USC defenders were where they were
supposed to be for the most part, and they were
in the right place and they knew what they were doing,
and those things go a long way, and it was
(02:19):
impressive to see that, you know, the improvement they made.
I thought that LSU's offense and their game plan was
atrocious too, So I mean both things go hand in hand.
So you know, it makes sense that you know, you
have a U LSU offense that I thought did not
do a good job. A couple of the USC defense
that played a lot better than they had in the past,
(02:39):
and you get a USC victory. USC. You know, well,
the thing about college trouble, I think is different than
the NFL is sort of how quickly one team is
feels like they're about to win and they just don't.
LSU in the fourth quarter is up seventeen thirteen, they're
driving with the ball and you're like, okay, well they're
going to score here twenty four to thirteen, and that's
(03:01):
sort of the end of this game. And then LSU
just didn't do it, and USC took over and they
won that game. They kind of forcefully took it from LSU.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, that's uh, that's if you expand on that a
little bit. I'm curious what you thought exactly about the
LSU game plan. And this sounds like no pushback. It's not.
I'm just curious what you see a.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Couple of things. So LSU is the best offense line
in the country, and they played a game like their
offensive line is a Division two offensive line. In this game,
it was a ton of quick passes to the sidelines,
and at that point in the USC had sort of
figured it out in the second half, like, what why
every time they feed the ball over the middle of field, Brian,
was a completion every single time, But they did like
(03:45):
four times the entire game. And LSU is just uncommitted
to the run with that offensive line, which doesn't make
any sense. Second half, you can sort of feel that
that that push, right, you sort of feel the offensive
line taking over a little bit. Right, the runs got
a little bit more. They're pushing the pile a little bit.
And then they just stopped doing it. And the last thing is,
this is maybe my least are playing football. It's the
(04:08):
third and one, fourth and one. Let's hurry up to
the line of scrimmage and run inside zone from a shotgun.
And Elis, you did that third and one, six minutes left,
first down. You know now you're you're you're about midfield
and uh and you have you know you now the
clock will go get to about four minutes probably, And
instead they do the dumbest playing football. They rushed to
(04:31):
the line of scrimmage. Brian, you know what plays coming,
and we're gonna run inside zone from shotgun and us
knew what play was coming. Stuffed Elis you. I mean,
I think about all the options you have on third
and one as a play caller, and you try to
hurry up and get and fool a Division one top
twenty five defense. No one's fooled by that. Everyone knows
what's coming. And the last part too, And I think
this is a lot of coaches have these game manage issues.
(04:55):
Looking rightly, by the way, it's not avoid of game
management problems. But after a two minute it's not called
two warning right, two minute time out?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
Oh, I have a rant on that, mister.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
So two minute time out. You know, USC had one
time out, right, and d LSU tried to make them
use their one time out. No, they threw the ball.
Nutsmart threw the ball five feet away from the open
wide receiver, and then he threw the next pass eight
feet over the guy's head. And that was and they waited.
They took six seconds to call two plays and us
(05:26):
he kept their time out. Like it's just these things,
these game management issues they had. I just was uninspired
by the game plan they acted like in look, nutsmyer
might not be that good. I kept seeing tweets like
nutsmier Man, he's kicking butt. I go, what what what
what are you talking about? What game are you watching?
He's throwing the same passes over and over again to
(05:46):
the sidelines. Miller Moss played much better than the nutsmer
in my opinion, but I just was unimpressed by ls
US offensive game plan. They should have been able to
do more and they just didn't.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
No fair enough. I side note, I think Miller Moss
is like the oldest how what is he like? Twenty
one twenty? Yeah, I think he's the oldest twenty one
year old on earth? Is that just the me thing?
Or Miller does he not look old like in the
postgame press conferences? Or twenty two years old by the
way right now? But anyway, he did play very well
(06:21):
and he did help me win a prop bet. So
I'm very fond of Miller Moss right now. A little
end game, he would get to three hundred yards passing
hey Man when the game was on the line. Jeff,
you're right, fourth quarter, right, LSU out. LSU got outscored
fourteen to three in the fourth quarter, and Miller Moss
was a big reason why. Miller Moss played great down
the stretch. And there's just so many different things to
(06:45):
get to how about this with It's interesting that you
talked about the game plan and how els you look
specifically on offense, and that can certainly be directed some
of that criticism toward Brian Kelly. There's no doubt about that.
And Brian Kelly in the postgame press conference, we get
a table slam. He's like, I'm just like, you know,
(07:06):
like a dnnis screen. Remember the Dennis table slam. We
all listen to Brian Kelly after the game. LSU loses
again their fifth straight season opening loss, and here's what
he had to say about LSU fading down the stretch.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
That's what I said to the team.
Speaker 5 (07:24):
I said, we had some guys played their butts off tonight, and.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
We're sitting here again.
Speaker 5 (07:30):
We're sitting here again talking about the same things about
not finishing when you have an opponent.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
In a position to put them away.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
But what we're doing on the sideline is feeling like
the game's over, and I'm so angry about it that
I got to do something about it. I'm not doing
a good enough job as a coach, and I got
to coach him better because it's unacceptable for us not
to have found a way to win this football game.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's ridicul kill us and it's crazy, that's ridiculous crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
He knows he felt the same thing I did like
this game was this game should have been over and
ls you just didn't execute down the stretch. They didn't
make the right plays and that cost them an opportunity
to win this game. And again, I don't think it's
anything crazy to say that USC played well, but els
You have the opportunity to put them away and just
didn't do it. And now they've lost five. They've lost
(08:28):
five straight UH season openers now and els You has played.
To be fair that they have played a tougher non
conference slate in Week one, but the same thing keeps happening,
and you have to ask yourself, why, why why camp?
You have all training camp? And look, you're not every
team played great this weekend. My Ducks certainly did not.
But you know, why does this keep happening? To to
(08:52):
to Brian Kelly, teams, why can't they figure it out?
What what is it about about Week one that you're
not as prepared to play as you are otherwise? And
to his point and what he said, those those couple
of games have come down to, like the final play
of the game. It's been you know, they have not
made the plays in those moments where Florida State specifically
(09:12):
because that's who they've played the lotst couple of times
in Week one have made those plays at the end
and LSU has not.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
Yeah, and listen, that's a good point that shouldn't get lost.
And it's gonna sound like excuse city, but it isn't
is they're not playing like East McGillicuddy State in the opener, right,
you think about last year was Florida State who was
on the doorstep of the playoff. This year it's USC,
who was a ranked team, has a lot of talent.
(09:39):
I believe one of those five years was Bama. Was
it not? Do we get Alabama?
Speaker 6 (09:43):
No?
Speaker 4 (09:43):
No, No, I didn't play no way. They played Bama week
no conference opponent week one. No.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, you're right, you're right. Yeah, I was probably mixing
it up with it's probably USC or someone like that anyway,
But they've played a couple of tougher opponents games. But still,
but the last night was a good ex ample of
you got to take that game. They were in position
to do it and they just didn't take it. There listen, man,
it's one of these deals where they just they can't
(10:09):
get out of their own way. And it's not just
USC who played very well, it was they didn't take it.
The game was there for the taking and they just
left it on the table and USC took it. And again,
props to Miller Moss and props to the defense looking
worlds better than last season, but Lsu assisted that win
(10:32):
for USC, there's no doubt about that. I think that's
the thing that that kills you the most. It's one
thing to get beat, but it's another thing. We've got
the US Open going on in tennis. If the other
player just beats you, that's one thing. If you've got
a bunch of unforced errors and you're just hitting the
ball into the net and all that, that's what kills
you afterward. And I think that's what Brian Kelly's feeling
right there.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Well. I used to be able to watch the US
Open until DIRECTORV shut off my ESPN. So oh that's awesome. Yeah,
that's fun. I have YouTube TV. I basically to pay
for every single service because I need something and being
sure you can watch my sports nonetheless, Yeah, look, I
think you look at that game and you give you know,
USC credit, but there's definitely opportunities for for us who
(11:13):
to win the game, and they just didn't do it.
And now look, you know, we we talk about wind
totals a lot. I think I had USC at eight
and four. Yeah, I think they're looking at at about
ten wins. Look at their schedule. They get you know,
they go to Michigan a couple of weeks. I think,
look part of and we'll get to this in a
little bit about sort of like you know, stock up
stock down factor fiction, sort of like how do we
(11:34):
assess what we've seen so far this weekend? You know,
now I see people USC undefeated playoff team like guys,
slow down. It'sok a deep breath. Okay, good start for USC, certainly,
but we're not quite at that moment yet where you know,
we're going with UH, with UH, with with those thoughts.
(11:55):
They had Michigan in a couple of weeks. I know
Michigan didn't look great in offense. They're going to get
better and off I think the USC again, it's just
it's gonna be tough playing in in Arboro. Okay, Yeah,
but they get Penn State Nebraska and not him all
at home.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Yeah, they do. It's funny because last night's win. It
just it causes you to look at the rest of
the schedule differently, absolutely right, because USC wins and you're like, okay, yeah,
they're at Michigan, but Michigan didn't look great. That's a
winnable game, right that they're at you know, they're at Minnesota,
that that should be a win.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
If they lose last night, I think you're looking at
it differently where you're like, man, they got to go
to Michigan. They've got wiscott Are they gonna beat Wisconsin
at home? I don't know, they got to go to Minnesota.
That's not a for sure. If they lose, you look
at it differently. But after a win, yeah, eight and
four looks a whole lot more likely after last night's
win and that Jeff, that easily could have gone the
(12:50):
other way.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah. I again, I think that the people going straight
to like this is now a playoff team. You got
to take a deep breath. That's not I think. Yeah.
To me, LSU looked not like not like the thirteen
team in the country. And that's part of week one.
It's figuring out where this team stuck up again. It
didn't look to me like that was a team that
(13:12):
deserved that ranking. But that's what the preseason is, right,
I mean organ to look like they deserve the third
I can't imagine or the top ten team after last weekend.
I don't know how you have them up there. So
like I, you know, wakings are what they are, doesn't
mean that they're you know, the actual way teams play
in Week one, but LS you did not look like
a top thirteen team to me. Did they do you?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
No? They didn't. That was the crazy thing because I
texted you, I'm like, I'm betting. I just bet on
this right right now. And there was a bet where
you could get to uh, you could get LSU rushing
for at least one hundred yards, and I'm like, they're
doing that. They're rushing for at least one hundred yards
and through the first half. They didn't even get to
fifty yards in the first half, and they started off
(13:56):
slowly running the ball in the third quarter, and I'm thinking,
they've got it, get there. But I'd be lying to
you if I said, oh, I was completely comfortable the
whole time, right, Like they just could not run the
ball effectively, and I was shocked. I didn't think they'd
run for like two hundred yards or something crazy like that.
But one hundred yards is not that much to ask
for when they have a clear advantage in the trenches
(14:19):
when they have the ball, and he just didn't. They
didn't look like they should have looked right, like running
the football and having arguably the best tackle tandem in
the country. They've got two great offensive tackles, and I
thought they got pushed around a lot, and I didn't
anticipate that happening.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So it's hard to tell sometimes who did what you
know until you watch the film, because a lot of
times that, you know, I thought us see the good
job of kind of having other defenders in the box.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
Yeah, sure, Like I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
If again, that's an offensive line issue. I just thought
LSU's offense was pretty unimaginative. Look, it's possible that they
just nutsmis just they just concerned about Nutsmyer, which is
totally fine. Yeah, they took over for Jane Daniels, and
the game plan reflected that. You know, but a lot
of times we get you know, information at camp on
(15:11):
how this seems to feel about one another and how
they feel about themselves and we nothing from LSU was
about like, I don't know if if that Smyer's the guy.
So that's why I think a lot of us went
to that game thinking that nus Meyer was gonna be
able to sort of not be Jane Daniels but keep
the same magic as Jane Daniels had.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Yeah, it's super fast. I think that the easy thing
to do is just look at Okay, the running game
isn't performing as great as it should. It's the O line.
Some of that was just the running backs themselves because
they finally got some juice in the second half. They
put in this guy, John Emery Junior, who's this five
star kid, and he looked way different than Josh Williams
(15:51):
and Caleb Jackson because John Emery Junior he had ten
carries for sixty one yards and he ripped off a
thirty nine yard run and it just looked different. There
were a couple of times where running back was one
on one with a dB and the dB just took
the running back down. You know what I mean, Like
you gotta win. We always talk about that you got
(16:12):
a one on one, you gotta win, and a lot
of times the running backs last night didn't win when
they had opportunities to. So, yeah, the running game left
something to be desired, but I would credit USC for
a lot of that. All Right, we got a lot
to do over here, Jeff. You can tell it's a
ball buffet today. Lots of football, college and NFL. Uh So,
(16:32):
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normally a good thing, but not this time. It's not
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He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian though. We're in for two
pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox Sports Radio.
We're live from the Tirack dot com studios. You know,
Jeff being compared to coach k is normally a good thing, right,
one of the greatest coaches of all time. But this
isn't flattering if it's being talked about, if you're talking
(17:56):
about Dabo Sweeney, right, the Clemson head football coach. Because look,
here's the deal. They got waxed by Georgia on Saturday.
This is nasty thirty four to three and Dabo Sweeney,
it's the same old story. He just will not embrace
the transfer portal and listen, it's it's it's making an impact.
(18:20):
I'm not gonna sit here and say if he embraced
the transfer portal that they would have won thirty four
to three. You know what I mean? Like it's made
an impact. Sometimes we blow it out of proportion, but
there's no doubt it is making an impact. And the
comparison with Coach K is there was a time when
Coach K was still at Duke and he just did
not embrace the one and duns. He's like, I don't
(18:42):
want to go down that road. You know, they're here
for a year, then they're in the NBA. I don't
like it. And then somewhere along the line he was like,
that's not helping me out like that. And that's where
I think Dabosweeney is. I think that's the territory he's
in right now. Is the out dated thinking of coach
K that he changed and said, I'm at one of
(19:05):
the best schools in the country. I can get the
top recruits and yeah, they might only be here for
one year, but there are advantages. I can't just look
at the downside of that. And that's the deal with Dabbo.
He just looks at the portal as it being a
downside instead of the upside of it. You don't want
to rely on it heavily, fine, but you gotta at
(19:26):
least dabble and he's just not even doing that.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Here dabble in the portal for Dabo. Yeah, well it's
not only that, Brian. To me, it's the defiance of
it all. Sure, Like he is openly defiant about the
transfer portal, and it'd be one thing if if if
he just was like, yeah, you know, it's not for me,
and you know, well, but just sort of did it
in a more like quiet way. Right, he is like
(19:52):
openly discussed it's not for him. And then on top
of that, you'll talk about other things that are the
reasons why he's winning and this is this is so,
this is the reasons why it's not And it's like, coach,
you're not winning the same level that you used to.
And he's won. He's a great coach, he's won multiple championships,
but you're not with the same level that that you
(20:13):
used to as we know, and it seems like your
offense is getting worse over the years, are just staying
sort of the same, it's regressing, and you keep talking
about how this new way of college football is not
the way for you, but the results would indicate that
you haven't won the level that you wanted to, so
maybe you should participate in the new wave of college football.
(20:36):
That's part of it, right, He's just the wins have
not come with the same way they used to.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
I like what you're saying. Yeah, the defiance of it.
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Yeah, he's like he's been defined about it.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Yeah, he really is. And this is a great quote
in the off season from Dabo that illustrates what you're
talking about. He said, honestly, every player is technically a transfer.
We just signed a whole class of guys transferring from
high school. And it's like, but Dabo. There was a
great tweet I think it was Stuart Mandel put it
(21:05):
out there where he was like, it's kind of hard
to beat someone like Georgia if your transfer guys all
came from high school. Right, Like, there are some like
top of the line dudes that might have been at
Bama but didn't get the playing time and now they're
at Clemson or what have you. That's different than signing
a guy straight from high school. So you're right, I
(21:27):
like that the defiance of it where it's almost like
he's doing the Brian Kelly like fist on the table
type thing. Yeah, where Dabo is just like building his brand.
He's known as the non transfer guy. He's the non
portal guy, and it's just not working. It'd be one
thing to be unconventional and it's working out. It's not
working out at all.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Correct. So that's why again I think it's just silly
for him to continue to talk about, you know, how
he's doing things differently and how it benefits him. It
has not benefited you. And I think that's the part
that a lot of people struggle with is that, you know,
we he keeps telling us it's working and his way
it works, and it did used to work, but it's
not the way college football is anymore. And Clemson, and
(22:09):
this is why we talk, you know, we talk about teams.
It's all about expectations, right, did you meet the expectation
of the season. They are a team who is expected
to be a playoff team and she's to win their
conferenceenations and they have not done that recently. So the
heat is gonna it's gonna be on him, which I
think he understands, but that he doesn't seem to to
sort of embrace how how that makes his program look
(22:32):
when he doesn't participate in sort of the landscape of
college football. And then again, if you if you don't win,
people were going to look at it a little bit
harder and figure out why why that is? Why are
you not participating in sort of the landscape of college football.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Yeah, and listen, change can snake up on you fast
in college football. I love this stat, Jeff. This is
the mother of misleading stats. Leading up to that Clemson
Georgia game. That is, Clemson and Georgia have combined to
win four of the last eight national championships. And it's like, oh, buddy,
it's like it makes it sound like they're kind of equals. Right,
(23:09):
It's like Clemson is nowhere near Georgia's level at this stage.
They haven't been there for a handful of years. And
and they it wasn't that long ago that Clemson was dominant.
Like they're they're beating Alabama in championship games plural, you
know what I mean. Like, we're not there and we
haven't been there even close to it for a number
(23:31):
of years now.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I think that, you know, I have to ask people
about sort of Dabbo and you know, he he his
story of success. He goes to he goes to Alabama.
He was a walk on, right, he goes to Alabama's
a walk on. He earns playing time. He plays, he
then works his way up the coaching ranks. He goes
to Clemson, he builds that program back up, we wins
(23:55):
a championship. Like in his mind, the way that he
built up Clemson, the way he played Alabama is sort
of like the all American way to climb in the sport,
right fashion a way to climb in the sport. And
(24:15):
he thinks, so he has this romantic view of college
football because of that, that's his experience has been what
he tells all his players, you work hard, you put
your head down, and you just continue to grind. You
grind it out and you grind it and that's great
at all. But not everyone has the same experience in
college sports. And he needs to understand that that that
(24:40):
idea he has of the sport is making it so
that everyone's passing up Clemson right now. And you look
at Miami this past weekend. They don't subscribe to that idea.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Look at the quarterback play right, Look at Cade club Nicks,
who did not play very well against Georgia. And look
what cam Ward did against Florida. What do you think
Ward could do at Clemson? You'd look a whole lot
better than Klebnik. Oh, you know and that, Jeff, that
is the perfect breakdown because you're so right. It does
trace back to his playing days. And he looks at
(25:12):
the portal as like you're cutting in line and this
senior has sweated and bled and now he's in a
position to start and this random transfer just takes his spot.
Oh it just breaks my heart, you know what I mean, Like,
that's how he that's exactly how he looks at it. Yeah,
and it's it's not benefiting Clemson.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
It's right. And look, they played a conference that they're
still probating to win ten games because that conference is stinky,
but they're they're no longer a threat to win championships.
I mean, Georgia look like the best team in the country.
I would not want to play Georgia. I don't want
to play them anyways, but they looked exceptionally like Georgia
this past weekend. Also playing it. Look, Atlanta in Week
one is not neutral site game. It's a Georgia home game.
(25:54):
I went my Ducks played there a few years ago.
I went to the game. It's not a neutral site
game for anybody, even though it comes in much closer
to Atlanta than Eugene Oregan is. That's just I just
I like by the way that they schedule these games,
but playing Georgia week one in Atlanta is not something
that is for the week.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
Yeah. That's man. That's rough being there live too, where
you're like, like, first game of the year, A let's
garlet's and then the next thing, you know, fifty nine
to three or whatever it was.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
It was forty nine three, it was a thirty five.
It was thirty five to three. And my son turned
to me and was like, Dad, I don't think we're
waiting this game. What give it away, buddy? Very very fun,
very fun kid moment.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
Yeah, oh that's awesome right there. Great stuff.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
And in golf, Scottie Scheffler posted a four shot victory
to take the Tour Championship, his eighth win of the
year and included a green jacket by taking the Masters
in a gold medal at the Olympics in Paris. And
with that one on Sunday, he captures the FedEx Cup
trophy and the twenty five million dollar prize that comes
along with it. Now back to joh Schwartz and Brian Oanthtirack.
Dot Com, Fox Sports Radio Studios.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Thank you, Eddie, very well done. Yeah, little twenty five
million dollar cool payday for Scotti Scheffler not bad at all.
Speaker 4 (27:13):
So who the better golf year? Him or Shaffley who
won two majors.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I still go with the two majors, even though man
so do I. Scotti Scheffler with seven tour wins and
an Olympic gold medal, like, that's an unbelievable year. But
the two majors, That's that's what we go by the most.
We don't go by the Nabisco Open or whatever, you
know what I mean. We don't go by the FedEx
(27:39):
Cup or we go by majors. We know Tiger has
fifteen majors. We don't know how many tour wins he has.
I have no idea.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
I'm with you. It's a it's a fun discussion right about, like,
you know, the overall success of a season versus winning
sort of the big games. Yeah, and Shaffley won more
big games.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
Plus the lootie. Also, this is this is a fun
thing too. He's also closer to the career gram Slam
than Sky Scheffler. Is Cheffer's only one only but he's
one that he's won the Masters twice. Yeah, Shockley won
two other, two different majors.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah wow, that's kind of crazy to think of it
that way, but yeah, we go by the majors. That's
the that's what matters the most. So if I'll put
it this way, if I could pick which which year
I would, I would want you know, you get to
pick you. Door number one is what Scheffler accomplished. Door
number two is what Xander Schaffley accomplished. I would take Shoffley.
(28:37):
It would take the two majors, and that's hard to
pass up, like a cool twenty five million dollars Olympic gold,
one major, right, Like that's an unbelievable season, and one arrest.
Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's yeah, that's right. You know, what happened in this
calendar year, it's pretty wild.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
It seems like it happened so long ago.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
He got arrested because and it turns out that in
this is not something that's you know, terribly uncommon, but
it turns out that what what happened was not at
all what actually happened. What was reported didn't all remotely
happen like I said, it was, Yeah, arrested.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah, that's it, and then went out that morning and
still shot great. I think he shot yeah, five under
that day something like that.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
Then it was the next day he was bad.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
It was weird although the adrenaline of being arrested but
being in that thug life, right, that was so funny.
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, that was a random story, man, really was. But
he rebounded from that big time, like that didn't even
slow him down. So no unreal season from him. All right,
we got to get to the the interesting audio right
around the corner. Also, Jeff, I've got some prop bet
horror stories for you.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Man.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The list is growing, unfortunately here, but it's uh, it's
going to draw a laugh or two out of you
tes oh man. That don't even get me started on
that freaking guy. My Cardinals cannot hit lefties this whole season.
They've struggled hitting lefties. And I'm like, yeah, take Nestor
(30:15):
Cortes under two and a half earned runs. It sounds
ridiculously low, but this happens all the time. Like, take
a pitcher, Zra. Not to go on a whole rant here, Jeff,
but take a picture Zra that's like three five six
or something like that that's over nine innings is how
many runs you give up on average. So if you
give up three point five to six and you only
(30:38):
pitch five or six innings, right Yeah, Like the under
hits a lot, and I'm like, Oh, Nestor Cortes, a
lefty against my Cardinals. Done give me. Nestor rocked freaking rocked.
The Cardinals scored. I think they're most runs of the season.
Yesterday is the day. I was like, yeah, take the starter.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
He show's a football score fourteen.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
That's crazy right there. Yeah, So we'll get to the
horror stories shortly as well. He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Though.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
We're in for two Pros and a Cup of Joe.
A great audio and horror stories coming up next. We're
live from the Tirec dot Com studios on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
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Speaker 3 (31:34):
He's Jeff Schwartz. I'm Brian. Now we're in for two
Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox Sports
Radio and we're live from the Tirack dot Com studios. Man,
my girl Loraina just bringing bringing the strength to the
morning airwaves. Here, little bit master of puppets from Metallica.
(31:54):
I know Eddie's probably motioning over there right now in
the updates studio. Jeff, this isn't a what did you
listen to before games? Here? You crank up Metallica?
Speaker 4 (32:03):
It was aggressive in the in the morning time. I
did not creak up Metallica.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
No, what did you do?
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Uh, let's see Phil Collins, Elton John. No, it was
a mix, dude. I I put West Coast hip hop
and then some electric dance music, a little combination.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Who are your West Coast rappers? Who are your main
guys there?
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Uh Tupac Dre and then Snoop and Nate Dogg. Okay
the one listening to?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Okay, like the whole like the West Side Connection kind
of thing.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Oh yeah, and you love West Side Connection.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
And the Bay You get down with the.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
Forty some some some Bay music, some forty but not
not not in the regular like I did like mac
Dre though I like, I mean, I like some Bay music,
but not It's not like I AD's on my rotation.
I don't. I don't dislike it. Very very distinct, very
very flavor. I'm gonna listening to some of it at
the gym today. I feel like it's been a long time.
(33:10):
I'll put on I'll put on like a like a
like a like a mac Jory E forty uh sort
of sort of station. I'll find one.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah, then do some skull crushers listening to E forty some.
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Some some fizzle dance at the gym. Ye if I
put if I put that on a speaker at the
gym at the Jewish Community Center gym here North Carolina,
it would probably be a little bit of of an issue.
But I actually kind of might ask. I might ask
for that today, you know, a loud speaker.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
It just makes me think of I'm sorry we go
down this road for a second here, but it just
makes me think of Damian Lillard. So dame. This was
during the bubble, remember the NBA postseason, in the bubble
and all that, and uh, he was dancing mid game
to blow the whistle, and he explained that I don't
(34:07):
know if I can find the This is great. Here's
a little portion of it on NBC Sports Northwest.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Okay, coming out of he got the two short plane
in the background and he goes mere.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Dancing, right, He's just dancing during the game because he
hit like a logo three and he's dancing as the
Lakers are going to the other end of the court.
It was hilarious and he even talked about it. I
don't know if I can find the audio for you,
but he was like, yeah, that's the East Oakland anthem.
I just had to go dumb for a minute over there.
(34:38):
It's a vain I love that fantastic. You could be
like Damian Lillard love for the Bay Area rap scene
over there. Okay, so I owe you some interesting audio.
This is Angel Reese. So she became the w NBA
seasons the single season Yeah, NBA WNBA rebounding leader. I'm
(35:00):
sure there's a smoother way to say that. She's got
the most rebounds of anybody in a single season. Here,
and she talked about why she's a great rebounder. Jeff.
After yesterday's they lost to the Links, but here's Angel
Reaes talking about her rebounding powers.
Speaker 9 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean, coming into it, I mean I just
knew my motor offensive rebounds and defensive rebounds is something
that I know I can always do. I knew it
was gonna translate right away, and that's something that a
lot of players don't want to do. A lot of
people think it's because I get my own rebounds, but
statistically it's not. A lot of people think it's because
I'm the tallest on the court when I'm not the
tallest on the court. So just being able to go
down there and being able to bang doing things that
(35:35):
a lot of people don't want to do. Defense and
rebounding wins championships. And I've won championships at every level
by just doing that. So coming into the league before
I sharpen up on my offensive thing, just being able
to come in and have that on my shoulder, it's
something I can always do. It is something that I
knew would translate.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Hey man, like it's one of these things. I hear that,
and I think there are legitimate criticisms of Angel Rees.
You know, not the greatest shooter, like does have touch
close to the rim, She's shooting a very low field
goal percentage. Those are fair criticisms, But what she's pushing
back on the idea of oh, I just rebound because
(36:11):
I'm taller than everybody. Like, that's just the dumb criticism.
That's not true. She's great at what she does. Like,
if you want to poke holes in her game, don't
poke holes when it comes to rebounding. She's fantastic when
it comes to that. If you want to talk about
a lack of touch and lack of shooting ability, fine
would be my guest. That makes sense, But don't poke
holes in the rebounding. There are no holes to poke.
(36:32):
She's doing a great job. She's the single season WNBA
leader as a rookie.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
She's doing a fantastic job rebound it. And and that's
why I think the sort of lack of offensive skill
to me is so confounded, because when you watch her rebound, Brian,
it is a lot of just she's not she's not
the highest jumper, right, Just she's not setting records for verticals. Yeah,
but the but the way she's able to time up
(36:58):
her job. But she's got super long arm, so she's
able to she's a again, fantastic rebounder. The way he's
able to time up went to jump, went to tip
it up, And oftentimes she's tipping up to herself, like
she's hitting the ball up to make sure she can
get another chance to go grab it. And her ability
to do all this and then feel so unskilled on
(37:20):
the offense side of the ball that I think is
the confounding part for a lot of us. It's like you,
you obviously are very skilled basketball player, and the offensive
part may or may not come. I don't know, but yeah,
you cannot knock her for her rebound and she has,
even if you want to say she's rebound some of
her own misses still, but Brian, she set the record
for most rebounds. Ever, it's not just because she has
(37:41):
her own missus. That's a silly thing to bring.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Up, and no doubt she certainly deserves credit for that. Yeah,
all right, come it up next. One team made the
worst possible mistake last season.
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