September 4, 2024 • 51 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Niners get Trent Williams and Brandon Aiyuk back at practice. Stefon Diggs opens up about his frustrations in Buffalo. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis stops by for his weekly visit to recap Week 1 and share his hate for bringing dogs to work.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As Rady Win and Jonas Knotts on Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen. We're just hoping that the Wi Fi and the
internet don't kick us in the nuts like it did yesterday,
you know, so we can get through this as we
get ready.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
For the Yeah, or hit you with a camera, you
know down there?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What do you mean? Oh that's right, Yeah, you had
a nice little quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh that's right, Yeah I did. Yeah, I was the center,
except they gave the ball back. I didn't handle.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Ball for a second.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
You just now got that done?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Why just now?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What do you mean why just now?
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Those things? Those those things take time. You got to schedule.
When I told y'all when I scheduled.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Hold on for a second, you need to text me
because I don't want to. I don't want to too many.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
No, you can ask questions, so it everybody should. Everybody
should do this. I mean that at a certain age, Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Okay, okay, I thought you were God of visected me.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I was like, oh no, no, okay, I need to
do that too. Though.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
See I'd assume that you already had that.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I should have just knocked that out right along with that.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Wait, so would you get a prostat check?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh yes I did?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
How that?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know it's good. I mean I'm healthy.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Nothing there does part of you Wishally was there just
to I feel like he'd be a good person when
you're going through a traumatic experience, because.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Man, yeah, i'd be like, hey, you're gonna be okay, man,
Like I'll get you like a cup of water or something.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Or maybe he should have through it with me.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Maybe he should have been in the gurney next to me,
you know, and then that would great.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I don't even need one, but I'm gonna get one, man,
just so we go through go through it together.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
What was the have you eaten yet? I'm assuming you
eating at this point.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I did eat a little bit of like pool chicken
something like, not too much.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I ain't really feel like eating, bro.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So what's the first thing you're gonna get after as
soon as you feel I.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Don't feel really, you know, I've done nine days cleanses
like fast. Like it's like food isn't as crazy to me,
Like I don't need it as much as I used to.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's like a mind thing.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Once you've gone twenty four hours without eating food once
in your life. It kind of takes on a different
meaning to you. So I'm like, not even really, I
just drank a lot of Gatorade yesterday. You know it's
Gatorade Day, because a lot of everything that was going
in was coming straight out anyway. So that's the reason
why I'm not with you right now, And it's the
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reason why if you say LeVar and I don't answer,
that would be a reason why.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I mean, now, where are you doing the show from?
Like in a kiddie pool?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I mean, yeah, something like that, in a bathtub, something
like that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You went to Walgreens picked up kid's pool on discount
after labor Day to do the show from. That's called
commitment right right there. That's how it's done.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, So I'm here. I'm good.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like I said, the prognosis was good. They didn't have
to like clip me or anything, like, you know, no
polyps or anything. They said. It was just like a
really really good looking area. I was like, dang, well,
thank you, all.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Right, that's good.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It looks good.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
You know, hey, man, people make sure you go get it.
Get yourself checked out, man, Yeah, Man.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Get up in there and check it out.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Too many people, too many people too nervous to talk
about it or too nervous to do it. I was nervous.
I got to tell you, guys, I was very nervous.
That was very uneasy. But I got through it, and
you know for the better, you know better for it.
So make sure you go out there and get your
price state checked out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Man, have a healthy pro state, you can have a
healthy life.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
There you go. Yeah, look, we're joking, but definitely when.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
I'm not joking, I'm just saying in a way that
makes it sound like I'm jo I'm there.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You go, yeah, you get them cheeks checked out, Get
the cheeks checked out. I'd spread the cheeks. Let someone
check it out.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Well, they roll you to the side. I don't even
remember them spreading them.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
You know, it was like that. Well, actually, every time
I went to Lancing, you.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Know, I've always said to you, they don't moon you.
They spread the cheeks. It is a different type of mood.
That's a nasty place. Nasty place that.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Well, at least they know how to put that extra
stink on it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I mean, I'll be honest, like, I respect it. I
was like, all right, that's different. You don't see that.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
You don't see that in West la Fayette. You don't
see that nan Arbor, onlys Lancing.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Dang, well, you see it in Philly, though, you see everything.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I got bad respect for the Philly fans.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, that's a different type of deal right there.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
I'll tell you what Boston too. I'll never forget. We
were playing BC and I can't.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Even say when one of the kids said to our
quarterback coach, an offensive coordinator at the time, he was shook.
You literally looked at his shoes.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
He goes, what's wrong with these?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I was like, you're good, coach, just don't.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Listen to it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, you know somebody who needs to check their bank account.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Let's see, let's see how you press this one up.
Let's see how you oh not the press a.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, Trent Williams, Yeah, Trent Williams, go check a.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Bank getting up there in age he needs to check
his price.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, but not quite yet. You know, he can enjoy
that cash that he just got. He's got a couple
more years of that. So the numbers are in. It's
looking like from what I've seen three years eighty two
point six six million forty eight million at signing a
twenty five point six nine million dollars signing bonus. UH
Trent Williams is back with the San Francisco forty nine ers,
(06:02):
and he spoke about getting the deal done yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know, Like I said, it's intricate.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
You know, I was under contract until I'm thirty eight,
so it's hard to add somebody to guarantee, you know,
eight figure salary when I'm thirty eight. And I get that,
and I feel like, in my heart of hearts, I'll
be the same player, you know, And I feel like
I work hard enough that I can can't keep that
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brand of football the same. But I understand, you know,
I've been around long enough to where I get both
sides of it. So I didn't take that as disrespect,
you know, but that was one of the key points.
Is like y'all was under contract until I was thirty eight,
so you know, it's hard to tell somebody, Hey, you know,
they ain't never seen it before. I mean, we've seen
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people play it that ag. We've never seen people play
and be the best at they position. It's not a quarterback,
So I get it, and that's to me, it's just
more logs in the fire to kind of prove that
I can be something that we haven't seen before.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Best alignment in football maybe gets paid.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's like the way you handled it too.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
To be honest, I mean, be forward and up you know, upright,
b be transparent about it like you guys went through
the you know, I wish most I wish most you know,
parties could handle negotiations like this.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I get why we had to stay out, you know,
and take this time to do it. I get why
we're here. I understand what the scenario is. I look
at my age. I understand these things. But I still
feel like this is my value and this is my worth.
And he had the choice to make do I do
I give in and come in and come back and
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play knowing that this is it takes me through thirty
eight and this is the situation. Or do I continue
to hold out for the value that I'm seeking and
the restructuring. So, I mean, good for him, good for
the Niners. And maybe that's why we didn't hear a
whole lot about it. Maybe that's why it wasn't a
(08:06):
very dramatic thing because you know what, we didn't hear
very much from Trent Williams and in his side when
all of this was going on, there wasn't complaining, there
wasn't demanding a trade.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
There wasn't anything like that that was taking place that
I know of.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
So just maybe this is how when you want to
restructure or you want a different contract, maybe this is,
you know, one of those times you put that into
the notebook and say, you know, this is the proper
approach to trying to go through a difficult time when
it's all about the financials without it turning into a thing,
you know in the media.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
I think there's a couple of things that stand out
to me about this. The first is and LaVar, I
think you've talked about this before. He's been through this
before in Washington, I believe, yes, yes, yeah, So I
think when you've got experience going through it, it's like
having a kid the second time versus the first time
when you have a kid the first time, like you
don't know what you don't know. There's a lot of
things that can scare you and you know you're going
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through it and it's awesome and it's crazy, it's special,
but it's stressful and there's more emotions involved. The second time,
you're like, oh, we've been through this before. You kind
of know what to expect. And so to me, there's
not I don't want to take away from the birth
of a child saying there's not as much emotions to it.
You're happy, you're excited, you're kind of nervous or anxious
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in some ways. But there is an element of I
guess fear or trepidation that's taken out of it because
you've got the experience and I think that's a little
bit of part of it here too. So he knows
how to handle it and he knows how this whole
thing's gonna go. He's the best tackle in football, and
I think we'd all agree it's a violent sport and
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he is at the point of attack. So to go
into the final three years of his career playing football
and to not have a contract that suits him in
regards to what he's being compensated and guarantees within it,
meaning he might have an injury that caused him to
never play again.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And if that's the case.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Like you better be going out there a week in
and week out and feeling good about everything, in particular
the contract that you are playing for and what you're
being paid. So this is the one contract, the one
contract this offseason that got restructured or an extension or
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this is the one to me that made the most
sense because I kept looking at it, going well, that
needs to get done. I mean, if this team wants
to have a shot at getting back to a super
Bowl and winning a super Bowl, it needs to be restructured.
He's got some guarantees on there, and if you want
to up him and pay a little bit too, which
I think he's making about five million more than he
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was scheduled to make under the previous deal or under
the previous contract until they restructured this, which should cover
the fines et cetera that I guess he's still going
to incur. Sometimes teams can kind of wipe that stuff away,
But I digress. The point is is between his age,
his play, and everything else, like, this was the contract
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that needed to get done that made the most sense.
So it's unfortunately not to hold out into the season
like Jonas wants, but here we are.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's too bad. But this is the one I had
least confidence in. I just thought they were going to
get this done either way. You like, you know, there
was no when you heard them talk about it, there
was no real concern, Like there was no outward frustration.
It seemed like from John Lynch at times it was
just like, yeah, we love the guy, and you just
figured they were going to get this done. And I
think I saw somewhere even in his age, he had
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the best past block rate percentage in the NFL. So
there's still what him Laramie Tunsil, and that's it correct
near the top as far as tackles go, and your
guys's mind, as far as best tackles in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It feels at the top of my head. I don't know,
I don't have to look.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Well, if Tyron Smith is healthy, I mean you, he's
right at the top two. There's a number of tackles
you get thrown into the conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But yeah, one last bite at the apple form at
his age, good for him, man, and good for good
for the Niners. Unfortunately, I believe in Super Bowl hangover.
So maybe that's a prelude into what our season picks
are going to look like tomorrow. So that's the way
I see it. But they do get the deal done,
and look, I mean, I know you guys want to
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get here and you want to get to this point,
so we may as well get to this point. Brandon
Ayuk also spoke about getting his contract done. Now again,
this is not me. I just want to be clear
with this. I have moved on. I've moved past this
Brandon Ayuk stuff. But apparently people are still here holding
on to the storylines of last week and the previous
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week before that and the previous month before that. So
Brandon Ayuk spoke also about his contract negotiations with the Niners,
and he took a little bit of ownership on how
things went.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
I think I'm not gonna lie, I made a little
bit more difficult than it needed to at the end.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
I mean, it was like that from from I'm not
gonna say the whole time time, but for about the
past month, I think we were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
See, so we're all good here. We're all good with
Brandon Ayuk in the forty nine ers. So now can
we focus on the season. You guys ready to just
focus on the Niners season or you want to like
lay in bed with this story for another week or so?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Is this your counseling session.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm good. I'm good. Listen, don't worry about me. I'm good.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Did you get part of that contract for Brendan?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I you I wish No, that is not the case.
I'm just, you know, want to make sure that we
have tied up all the loose ends on this forty
nine or offseason of It is kind of interesting though,
that the Niners seemingly have this pop up every single year,
like who's on the books next year that's going to
want a contract that we're going to freak out in
the off season and then right before the season starts,
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I'll get the deal done in San fran.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
It'll be probably someone on defense. But so they've restructured
Trent Williams, they signed Brendan and I took that. They
signed McCaffrey or restructured his deal. Deebo Samuel flew under
the radar. They restructured his contract.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Whin's brock perty do is okay? All right?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
So that's that'll be with that deal.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
By the way, that one's going to start some comments
and controversy because people are going to look at him
and go, well, anybody could do it. In Chanahan system.
It's like, okay, all right, so we're going to do
the whole DAC.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
But here's the thing is, you can be real about
the conversation, Like you can be real about it and say,
like Brock Purty is probably going to sign a deal
and gets some paid more than Patrick Mahomes. Let's just
be real about that. And I think we can all agree.
He's not better than Patrick Mahomes. He's not better than
Lamar Jackson. He's not better than Josh Allen, He's not
better than Joe Burrow. You can start to go down
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a list of quarterbacks and you can sit there and say, definitively,
he's not better than these players. But he's going to
get a contract that pays him more than that. So
I understand why the conversation happens, but it this is
part of the business. And then if the forty nine
ers believe he's their guy, that's the going rate at
that position.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And that's how it works.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I mean, just the final point of it from me,
If if any and everybody could do it, then Trey
Lance would been the starter and Trey Lance would still
be in San fran I mean, I just feel like
the way it all played out, they they still gave
him an opportunity when he came back from his injury,
he still got an opportunity. They saw brock Perdy as
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their guy, and they stood. They stuck with that. So,
you know, to say that he wouldn't be deserving of it.
He did have to beat out a draft pick to
be able to be in a position that he's in
right now. So it wasn't like it was just an
easy sailing, Oh, I'm in Kyle Shanahan's offense, I'm good
to go. He really did have have circumstances that had
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to play out for him to even have the opportunity
to be able to show his wheares on the field.
So it definitely wouldn't come as an unearned opportunity or
unearned contract for brock Purty to continue to lead the team.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He has held the position.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I mean, look, your boy Rush took over in Dallas,
and I was like, yeah, look at that, Look at
what he going, Look look at what he's got going
on right that that that was very short lived, so
it could have been short filed Rush.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That felt the Rush, Yeah, I did feel the r.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
You ever listen to Rush back when you're in college.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, of course, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Anyways, we had some Rush on Run.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
There's a good we should come back to Rush.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There's a good electronica song called as the Rush Comes God.
Who is a DJ? Is a tiesto?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Yeah, Rapid Radios it is, yeahars on top of it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
They should do it.
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
You guys want to hear some quotes from Stefan Diggs
talking about his departure from the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, you've
never really gotten any clarity on so he yes, please.
He spoke with with GQ Sports recently and he just
talked about folks. No GQ.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
He by the way, there's a GT Sports, So there's
GQ and GQ Sports.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Now, I guess I don't know. I mean, it's like
DMZ that's nice shoes though. But he spoke, He spoke.
He spoke with GQ Sports recently and you know, just
talked about his mental space. He was not in a
great mental space at the end of last year, but
then got specific about just what happened in Buffalo. As
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far as a game plan, standpoint went and said, quote,
the games looked a lot different, did dig said of
the final thirteen weeks of the season. You can blame me.
I don't mind blaming me. I got big ass shoulders.
But pay attention, pay real close attention. Watch the game.
Of course, there's plenty of plays on my back, but
there's a lot of plays that didn't go my way.
I need a lot of things to go my way
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to get the ball. You can't roll out of bed
and get eight hundred yards in the first eight games.
Your best receiver is doing that, You tell me about
the last ten what changed? Were there changes going on?
I just pay attention to what really happened and not
what people try to act like happen. Like for the
last ten games, I forgot how to fing play football
when talking about his Hall of Fame bid quote, I
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pay real close attention. This bleep is not game to me,
end quote. So kind of started to take responsibility and
then sort of pushed it off. You know, I'm not
sure I want this anymore, So let me go ahead
and push it off and be honest about how things went.
And maybe now it makes sense why they swallowed as
much money as they did just to move on from
him and just focus on this year without him.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
All right, but at that time of her, folks, it
is time for a fact check.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
That's right. We don't just do it.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
In politics, we do it in sports too. Here's what
we got, Johnson Stefan Diggs is right. From week nine
on last season. Obviously, his yardage total was down, but
it was also his targets were down significantly.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In fact, if.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
You look at the first eight games, there was six
different games he was targeted double digits or more. From
Week nine to Week seventeen he was only targeted twice.
That's eleven times too, and back to back weeks Week twelve,
Week thirteen versus Philly and Kansas City eleven times. But
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he never went over one hundred yards receiving the rest
of the season, and that includes the playoffs. And this
is after going over one hundred yards for four straight weeks,
really five out of six to start the season.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
How far off was he?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
How far off was who? How far off was he
on those hundred yards like in those games? Was he significantly?
In fact, the only game that he really got close
to one hundred yards would have been a Week nine
at Cincinnati had eighty six and then a week seventeen
at Miami he had eighty seven. I mean there were
weeks where he didn't even go over fifty yards receiving.
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Is it attributed to the targets? Is attributed to Yeah?
I mean I mean Kansas City year.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
You know, Kansas City obvious had a good game plan
against if you remember the Week thirteen matchup, last year's
tight game, Casey won in case twenty seventeen, but they
did a good job against I mean, he was targeting
about eleven times when we had four catches for twenty
four yards. And look here, here's what we don't know.
Ken Dorsey was the offensive coordinator. He was dismissed. They
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bring in Joe Brady. Joe Brady then takes over. You know,
we don't know if Joe Brady looked at.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
This offense and said, hey, I'm gonna try to spread
the football round.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
You know it's Stephan. You know, we've been trying to
get you the football down the field. We're gonna try
to get the ball in your hands quicker or in
some case we're gonna highlight some other pieces. You don't
know what the philosophy was, but I think the writing's
on the wall. It was a disconnect between Ken Dorsey
and how he viewed Stepan Diggs and Joe Brady. And
the one thing I will say to you about Ken
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Dorsey that I know for a fact is you know,
he came out of Miami and during his time Miami,
he was coached by Guy nam Rod Chazinsky, Rob Chazinsky
and up being my offensive coordinator for the first two
years in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Brilliant offensive mine. I love Chud to this day.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Really really great scheme and play caller, and Ken was
a part of our team those two years, and one
of the things that Chud would always preaches, think playmakers,
not plays, because a guy like Kellen Winslow, a guy
like Brelan Edwards will go up and make it play
regardless of what the coverage is, regardless of what.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Just think playmakers.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
And if you look at the first eight weeks of
Buffalo last year, Ken Dorsey's calling those games and probably
coaching Josh Allen with that exact thought of mind, think playmakers,
not plays, because Diggs was targeted significantly more than after
that point in a week nine moving forward. So it
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is a bit interesting to think about whether it's Sean
McDermott's call, who knows how involved he gets in the offense,
or Joe Brady. But it does feel like there's a
disconnect there for.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Sure that detain do How did they finish out?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That was gonna be my point. They were better?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, better?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Okay, so they better then that's why obviously you feel
comfortable getting rid of them.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
But it.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Let me put it this way, because that's not technically true.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Ok the first four weeks they were actually one and three,
So it wasn't until how they finished the season winning
five straight where they improved, but initially when he talks
about the dissnec between week eight to week nine, they
were they actually struggled mightily?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Did they? Did they?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
And and any estimation did they benefit from Stefan Diggs
being on the field as almost like a decoy? Does
does it make because if if you're you're like, okay,
we can get we can have success. We don't have
to target them, we can get rid of them. Do
you lose the element that you had being able to
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target the other players that you were targeting using the
other players you were using because you had the benefit
of the defense. Is still game planning Stefon Diggs and
now you don't have that this year?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Is that is?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Is it safe to say that that's a possibility of
how this plays out?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Maybe?
Speaker 7 (24:06):
I mean looking at the snap percentage and I kind
of do the math here in order to get this done.
But his average offensive snap percentage was higher I think
looking over these stats and that's probably not by a ton,
but it does look like it was higher because there
was weeks like in fourteen and fifteen where he played
forty six percent of the snaps sixty percent of the snaps.
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He didn't play less than sixty six percent of the
snaps four any one game in the first eight weeks,
So it does seem like there was even times when
he wasn't even on the field as much.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And also it felt like they were going like there
was a little bit more of a thought to give
Gabe Davis opportunities. Khalil Shakir had a big game, a
couple of big games there, Dalton Kincaid started to come alive.
It just like I wonder though, this if if based
on what they have to fork up, like thirty five
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million dollars they had to eat to get rid of
him this year going into the final year of his deal,
Like how bad was it behind the scenes that if
it's all about playmakers and not plays and you're you're
looking at a guy who's got the talent and the
ability that he is because like when he talks without
the Hall of Fame, like he's got a shot, Like
there's a chance he could be a Hall of Fame player.
How do you not make that work? Like he got
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one year left, it's going to be cheaper theoretically than
it is to keep him. That it would be to
part with him, Like how bad must it have been
to where they just had to get rid of it?
Like and Pete Prisco's made the point a couple of
times addition by subtraction, but damn, he's a good player
and gave Davis is gone, like like they're looking for
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pieces there. That's why they draft a key on Coleman.
I just wonder what the hell went wrong behind the
scenes that they couldn't make that work at least one
more year.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
You had to be the locker room, if you ask me.
That's it had to be him poisoning the like his
way may have been a turn off because it's come
out in the media at times. Listen, I know Stephan
Diggs personally. He's not a bad dude at all. He's
a cool dude to be around. If you know him,
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he's like super cool cat, the whole family, super cool people.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
So I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I would say he's very passionate about what he does.
And I came across and in his quote, he's very passionate.
He cares about his you know, his reputation, he cares
about his performances, he cares, he cares a ton about
what what goes on and how it plays out. So
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I would think that because he has such it's almost
like and I'll say it's not a very it's it's
not a complete comparison. I won't say it's a comparison,
but what I will say is is it could be
something like what happened with what was what was the
receiver that went to Arizona from from Houston? What DeAndre
Hockhaus Right, it could be a situation where he's disgruntled,
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you know, speaking of Diggs, he was disgruntled based upon
what his targets were and his involvement in the offense.
But his influence over the locker room is significant. It's significant.
So if you have disgruntled and you have significant influence
in the locker room, that's a horrible combination if you're
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a coach, right, and just god, So I.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Was say, just to get the timing right of when
everything transpired, because you know, for Digs, he talks about
week eight and then after week eight, the change didn't
happen from offensive coordinator until after their tenth game of
the season. So after week ten, which they did to
Jonas's point earlier, they improved with the change to Joe Brady.
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You know how much of that honestly had to do
with the you know, changing coordinator and all that. Maybe
that's what you attributed to. I don't know, but if
you started tracking them from week eleven moving forward, yes,
only lost one game the rest of the season. However, Digs,
for whatever reason, seems to be pointing to week eight,
which is where he can see his you know, targets
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everything else dropped significantly.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Which he was upset the year before. Wasn't he like
he was upset going out of the year before. So
I don't do we pinpoint it and say it's because
they got rid of one coordinator and brought in a
new one, because he was he was bothered leaving the playoffs,
you know, wasn't that was or.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Was that the year before?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But no, that was the year before, this past year
or the offseason before this past year was when he
left training camp? Remember just right right?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Can theory?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Can I just throw a spect theory because like LeVar,
every time I've been around Stefan Diggs, he's been a
really nice guy. He's been awesome, And I'm gonna chock
this up to the fact that I don't know, he's
human like what we're competitors do we're athletes. There's gonna
be emotions involved, Like when you're not getting the football,
you're probably gonna be frustrated when you feel like you're
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one of the best receivers in the NFL, right and
you have a quarterback who's capable, So it's not even
like it's not because the quarterback is not capable. He's capable,
but they're not getting you the football, and so that
can be frustrating. Like it's it's human nature to be
able to say, like things aren't going well, I can
help this football team out, and it's probably it's probably
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frustrating for him to have to deal with some of that.
And so we tend to look at wide receivers we
see glimpse on the sidelines and all that, like maybe
it wasn't that bad behind the scenes. Who knows, maybe
it was his representation. Like there's so many things you
don't know what caused this, and you know, at the
end of the day, it doesn't really matter, I guess.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean he's moved on, the bills have moved on.
We'll see who gets the better end of that. As
the textans look loaded and the Bills kind of feel
like they're in reload mode. Maybe not, but like we
always have to make so much of the reactions of
players on the sidelines and their emotions, and it's like, dude,
it's football, Like what do you expect. He's frustrated, he's mad.
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There's so much time that goes into this.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
So that's the hard part for me is we tend
to sensationalize, you know, this this small snapshot, and we
tend to you know, make a story about one moment
in someone's life and make it about that, and it's like, well,
maybe just maybe just frustrating. A punch of other guys
were probably frustrated they didn't have the camera on at
that moment either.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
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Speaker 2 (30:35):
It is a Wednesday here and that means traditions, and
one of those traditions is the Great Petros Papadegas, the
co host of The Petro Money Show, which you can
hear on the Blowtorch AM five seven e LA Sports,
a Fox College Football analyst and on X at the
old p H Petros.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Good morning morning, Hello, Hello there he is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean congratulations. USC football is back.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Certainly looked like it, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
They played some defenses.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, that's the first time in many many years like
there's been some individual great performances. Sam Darnold was great,
no offense. LeVar we had well, he beat Penn State in.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
That Rose Bull.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Marquise Lee was really really individually spectacular. Caleb Williams was
a great individual player. But that's the best top to
bottom team effort that I've seen from USC as far
as like a football team goes since like the ed
Ojeron Interim era. Because they tackled. They tackled people in
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the open field. They weren't just a SIEV defensively, you
couldn't just run all over them. And then something else
we talked about Lincoln I League calling plays on time.
The ball getting out when it's supposed to kind of
helps the offense create an identity and the team create
an identity around that. And I was really impressed. And
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USC was the more poised football team. And I said
this yesterday. If you had told me Friday night last
week that somebody who is going to do a fake
shotgun blast in a guy's face after scoring a touchdown
and get a penalty. I would have told you for
sure that would be a USC guy. I mean I
would tell you nine times out of ten that would
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be a USC guy. It wasn't. It was an LSU guy.
And they made Brian Kelly go full Nikita Khrushchev and
pound the table and take all kinds of personal accountability.
It was the top to bottom best performance I've seen
from a USC football team since Ed was the head coach,
and I have to give him credit because well, you
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can't give them all the credit because they didn't want
to play the game, so they spent most of the
offseason trying to get out of playing against LSU. But
then you see what happens, Right, If USC gets a
big victory against a big time program, it's a lot
bigger and better than beating Utah State by fifty. It
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gets everybody involved, you move up in the polls. Another
great example as to why they need to play Notre
Dame every year and why Lincoln Riley needs to worry
about calling plays and creating a team culture as opposed
to scheduling or who USC is going to play. You
don't worry about that, Lincoln. You play who's on the
schedule and see if you can beat them before you
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leave for the NFL. But overall, I was very, very
impressed with the whole thing, and it gave me the
impression that USC is probably not going to be as
helpless as people think in the Big Ten.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
You know what I loved about that game, Petros I
had the opportunity to sit down with Miller Moss during
the Big Ten media days, which a wonderful young man,
I mean really just said all the right things, does
the right things.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Phil's genuine, I mean.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Because he stayed right. I mean, here's the guy that
actually stay.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I was gonna get to that.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
I was just gonna say, like it was an example
really but for both quarterbacks like nuss Meyer who stayed
waited his opportunity, Miller Moss who stayed waited for his opportunity,
and I thought both quarterbacks played outstanding, like absolutely outstanding,
and it should be a lesson to other quarterbacks out
there who are watching that, going like, you don't need
to go to some other school to eventually transfer to
another school to then like finally feel like you're there,
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you've arrived. I mean, not trying to compare to DJU,
but I mean, look out that's worked out so far
two games into this season. But I thought that was
almost like a telling sign of maybe this can slow
down some of the transfer portal stuff we see and
we allow kids to actually develop through.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
A program like that, and and here's here's the reward.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean it goes against everything that I guess
go to relate generationally. These young people kind of expect,
which is immediate gratification, and you're not going to get
that hanging around and working and trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Now.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
A guy like dj Ujung dele La, he's got to
make money now, right because he's not an NFL prospect
like he was when he was coming out of high school.
So if somebody's going to pay him six hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to play football in college, that's probably
going to be the biggest paycheck he's going to get.
And for those of us that watched him play year
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in and year out, he's gotten less and less twitchy
and made less I thought.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Oregon State, though he actually did a lot for his
draft stock.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
I think that was an opportunity that actually led me
to think, maybe this kid can play.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, at the next level.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I don't know. I mean the underground rumblings when he
was even when he started the first week he started
at Oregon State was that the backup was better than
him and Aiden Chiles, the kid who's now starting at
Michigan State. But it took the over Yeah, and he's
getting his experience now with Jonathan Smith. So I thought
he did a lot better at Oregon State. And in fact,
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that was one of my impressions watching the Florida State
game on Monday night, which was Wow, Jonathan Smith really
got all he could out of this guy. And at
the same time, the rumblings were, man, we got to
play the other guy. Maybe the other guy's going to
take us where we need to go. DJ's probably not
that guy, and he ended up transferring. Obviously their circumstances
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changed dramatically, But you're right, I mean, hanging in there.
But that's college football that we grew up with too, right,
Like we saw a ton of guys who were a
certain way when they came in and then they were
a whole different player. Totally differently developed three or four
years later, Like that's kind of what we're used to
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because it was a lot more difficult to transfer, a
lot more difficult to hang up your shoes and say
I'm not doing this or screw you guys, I'm going home.
That's not really part of what we grew up with
in football. So when we see somebody do something like
Miller Moss that we are kind of used to seeing,
I mean, those are the stories that we're kind of
used to celebrating on our sport twenty years ago. When
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we see it now, it's even more and more impressive
with the Nutsmeyer guy and Miller Moss. I don't know
if it's going to make much of a difference. I
think the money involved and the people involved, and how
easy it is to say I don't like this place
anymore because the strength coach pissed me off is still
going to be pretty prevalent. But we need to close
one of those transfer portals, at least one.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I heard you say something pretty interesting in that initial
talk about USC winning is that maybe they're not as
you know, as weak as or may may not have
the results that people may think that they have In
the Big Ten after that game? Are you bullish on them? Like,
how well do you think they can do in a
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Big Ten? I don't know, I mean just asking for
a friend.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I'm not exactly sure how. I just thought it was
a completely different mentality that I saw. And yes, one
game is one game, and in football, especially if you're
inside a team watching the tape of the week, one
is almost unrecognizable when you get into October and start
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to develop your identity a little bit more. But I
guess what stood out to me to make me think, Wow,
this is a whole different vibe was the coaching hires
that they made. You know, I know that they went
out and hired real defensive coaches. Now, how quickly can
you fix a personnel group, a linebacker group, a defensive
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line group, a secondary I've seen an offensive line group
fixed over one offseason, and it blew my mind because
it was all the same guys, but they changed coaches,
and it blew my mind to see that happen. That
was many years ago. And this was kind of equally
mind blowing to see guys making tackles in the open
field for USC or stopping people right at the marker
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and playing disciplined on defense and making adjustments in the
second half to where there wasn't as much room for
the wide receivers and the cushion that was there early
was no longer there. All that stuff kind of made
me feel like, Wow, Lincoln Riley did something. They forced
him to fire. All these air raid, big twelve soft guys,
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Dant and Lynn matt Enz, Doug Belk, these coaches have
come in and changed USC's mentality in that way. I
feel a lot better about how they're going to be
up against because LSU is big, strong and fast. Say
what you will about Brian Kelly. They only won nine
games or ten games, and he hasn't gotten them over
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the absolute hump yet, but they're big, strong and fast
and USC was able to stand up to that in
a way that they haven't been in the past under
this coach and under Clay Helton. So overall, I guess
it was heartening to feel like, Wow, you really can
fix something. Hiring a different staff and paying attention to
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detail for one offseason. So they'll beat up Utah State
and then they'll take a week off. We'll get an
idea what Michigan is when they go out to the
Big House and play cheron more.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Petros Papadegas joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, get
him on X at the Old p So what else
jumped out to you Week one? In college football? Was
there a performance you saw that either surprised you outside
of USC or one that you saw Petros that you
looked at and said, well, what the hell was that?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, Ucla only beating Hawaii by three was a bit
of a trip.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah. Oh but you know, you know, Jonas won't like
you saying that. Well, yeah, but the Hawaii battled, you know,
you know, they could have won.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
They came out and they came out and stopped them
and scored right away, and I was like, damn. And
then I started working Arizona State.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
E Petros Jonas said, you know, Rainbow Warriors winning may
become a new trend. You know, if they had won
that guess.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
It's a great program that nearly they tried to get
rid of.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
They're one and one. Yeah, they filled up the ching
how about it?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Eight people.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
It's always interesting to see, like you never really know
what you got any college football team, but in the
modern era of the transfer portal and all that, you
really don't know what you have, and sometimes you look
at teams on paper, like I had Wyoming Arizona State.
Wyoming won nine games last year, beat Texas Tech, played
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Texas tough in Texas in the fourth quarter, I think
the game was tied, and they went to Arizona State
with a lot of the same personnel, a new coach,
but you know, from the same staff of Craig Bowle,
and got absolutely blown away by Arizona State. I mean
an Arizona State team. They got shut out almost or
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did get shut out by Fresno State last year in
a game I did, and I was just absolutely dumbfounded
with how well they played. Their transfer guys played a
couple of guys they got from New Mexico State. Their
quarterback was really poised within the offense. Like that kind
of thing's really interesting, like, Okay, this guy's from New
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Mexico State, this guy's from Sacramento State, this guy's from
Austin p and yet they're playing together great. Last year
they had a bunch of different transfers and it didn't
come together like that. So it's always really interesting to
see what happens when you put the product on the
plate and sitting in front of a customer and the
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game actually unfolds. So it was a fun first week.
It's always great to watch, maybe a little bit too
many lopsided victories, the feasting on the cupcakes, because the
games that you're really interested in, the ones we're really
talking about, is where people actually played each other. Right,
Florida State, Boston College, SCLSU, and so on and so forth.
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And with a twelve team college football playoff, I don't
see why we can't have meaningful games week in and
week out during the regular season and play and play
and schedule bravely during the non conference. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 7 (43:32):
I mean, my god, I mean theoretically, you know you're
gonna get some three loss teams that make it in
a twelve team playoff. I wish they went to sixteen
for that reason, Petros, because because I think, one, I'm
not sure teams need buys. You know, I don't want
to upset anyone by saying that. I know it can
be an extra long season then for especially teams that
plant conference and all that.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
But I guess what the general point is. It just
it feels like, do we need.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
To let some teams take off on a buy and
then you know, I let that whole process sort itself out.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I'd love to be a little more inclusive. I just
want to generally ask you.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
What were some what was like one thing that surprised
you about Week one college football and then one of
the things that you kind of thought and going into
the season that it was kind of confirmed with what
you saw.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
It's a little early to dig in my mind like that.
USC surprised me, no doubt. I was very pleasantly surprised
by just top to bottom USC's performance and the poise
and the way that whole thing was handled.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I was impressed.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
So USC surprised me. I was surprised by Arizona State
since that was the game I called bye weeks. I
mean the point you make, Brady, I think goes to
a bigger point where it was twelveteen playoffs, sixteen team playoff,
thirty team playoff like the NCAA tournament. I don't care,
but we need schedule uniformity because if we're going to
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have a big playoff where everybody's earning their way in,
we have to have schedule uniformity. Because we have to
get rid of the committee. Because there's nothing worse, nothing
more counterproductive in all of society than a goddamn committee
and that's got to go. So that's that's where we
have to get to. Whether that means you don't get
a bye or this person gets a buy. I don't
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know Hawaii, you know UCLA needs a buy after going
all the way out there in Hawaii and beating them
by three points, and us he's gonna need a buye
after beating up on Utah State before they go to Michigan.
But I take your point that we need schedule uniformity.
We need to have something where we don't have to
consult a TV company about who should get into the
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playoffs and some fake committee that they put together. So
that's my soapbox moment there. What didn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Kirk curve Street's dog.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah, dude, I gotta be honest. I got you know,
I know that there's a lot of dog lovers out there,
and I grew up with dogs. I like animals. I
got my lizard here. But I just don't get it.
I just I don't understand how people don't haven't figured
out how what a gigantic hindrance that is to everybody
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else that works there, and if if it was so
great to bring your dog to work, and it was
such a wonderful thing, why doesn't everybody get to do it? Well? Why?
Because it's because it's a huge distraction. Look, I've always
had a huge problem with people bringing their dog to
football practice, right, Like, by the time we get done
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playing Pop Warner football, we shouldn't have to deal with
anybody's dog on the practice field. It's not a park.
It's not a place for your dog to crap. Right.
If we're on a practice field practicing football, it's not
fun for the sideline girl to bring her dog and
everybody to pet the dog because they want to have
sex with the sideline Like, leave us alonehere, man, Damn.
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I got a problem with that because it's it's not
it's not for people to have to deal with your
dog in a place of business. Uh, it's just not.
And why can't the production manager bring the dog? Why
can't the stage manager bring a dog? Why can't Why
can't Fowler bring a dog?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
What?
Speaker 6 (47:15):
You know, Fowler could bring a dog. You know, Fowler
could bring a dog if he wanted.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I don't think they can. Like, that's the thing it's
I find I find it to be an insult to
everybody that does the job, everybody that's there.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You know, I didn't even I didn't know that that
was the thing until you brought it up last year
and then I'm watching the game. I was it Monday.
I forget which game it was he was doing, but
like he was like they were doing a shot inside
the booth and you could see him reaching down petting
the dog while he's talking.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah, and it's very natural. Anybody loves it. It's great.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
It might be a service dog.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I'm sure it's his emotional support animal, because I'm
sure like he's freaked out, or he's tired of traveling,
or he's lost his mind or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
There's a lot, there's there's a lot going on there,
and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
I mean, but like what, there's two ways to look
at this. You could look at it like, Okay, Lebron
James has done whatever. He should be able to do
whatever he wants because he's the best and biggest athlete
in the world, one of the top five. You know,
he should be able to do whatever he wants. He
should be able to fire whatever coach he wants. He
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should be able to hire his son and all of
these things because that's what Lebron has earned through his
lifetime of service. He's also earned, you know, billions of dollars,
but he's also earned this for his lifetime of service
to the NBA. Or Kobe deserved that big contract that
crippled the Lakers at the end of his career because
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and could.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Have also hired his daughter too, right.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
And because it's Kobe right, you could say that you know,
but you or you could also say, like you sit
there and preach how we're all pulling the same ores
and all doing this, but there's rules that only apply
to me. And Kirk kirk Street a great broadcaster, a
great guy in my experience. Yeah, I've always liked Kirk
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kurb Street. There's nothing not to like. He does a
great Kurt or Kirk Kirk He's uh, he's yeah, Kirk.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Okay, it sounds like Kurt.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
I'm sorry, I have a lisp.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Hey, Look, Brady does that every single time.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
This is the Jay.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
This goes back to the Jay grew and as head
coach for Washington, when it sounded like he was calling
of Kurt, but you couldn't pick up on the accent.
So he was saying Kirk. He doesn't finish the end
of it, just says.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Kurt knows somebody Like there's like people's name like Brendan
or Brennan or Brendan Brandon. And if you just say
it real fast, but you know, it's like you can
do it. What does that sound like?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
You know, like like Brandan Brennan. It was just like
real quick, just say it really fast.
Speaker 7 (49:56):
I always thought that you would not do something like
that because I usually you pride yourself on like knowing
everyone's name.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
No, I do, But if you're in the heat of
the moment, you gotta get the name out, you know,
You've got to get and or the play by play
guy says it wrong and you got to somehow say
it halfway right to not embarrass him right, but but
not say it wrong so you can get corrected on
Twitter as well. I'm not allowed to use.
Speaker 5 (50:18):
The strategy, use the same strategy.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
That's good to know the dog bothers me. I'm very
I'm bothered by the dog.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Back to the original point.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I honestly I can't. I can't pick up the poop,
Like what does he go to the bathroom?
Speaker 5 (50:29):
I have so many questions.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
He's excitably so well trained at this point, like he
can hold it until he gets to work.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
You think that dog's going to hold a craft for
three and a half hours, Yeah, three and a half.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
He's probably there for nine you know, Like what time
does he get there?
Speaker 6 (50:43):
Like, honestly, he's built into the to the team though.
They know when to take him for a respite. Yeah,
he probably knows how to use the commote, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
It's a travesty and I'm sure that everybody.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I'm sure that me and you will be there together.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
I'll bring mister Stix, you bring the name of your
and we'll hang out together.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
A couple of Hall of famers get to do whatever
they want. Everybody else leave your dogs at home.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
There is the great is pets On fire Man Pee.
We got to run, but real quick, mister Petros. If
people want to hear you this week and what game
you calling, I'm available this weekend. I'm all, oh nice,
all right, So you get to.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
What you want to do for the games? Petros? Where
you want to meet?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, I want to get paid.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Let me and Jonas know and me me and Lee
will meet you.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I'd like to get paid whatever, ok uh pee, we
love you.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
We'll do it again next week. There is the great
Petross pompad
It's the best of two pros and a couple with
lamar As Rady Win and Jonas Knotts on Box four Radio.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Listen. We're just hoping that the Wi Fi and the
internet don't kick us in the nuts like it did yesterday,
you know, so we can get through this as we
get ready.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
For the Yeah, or hit you with a camera, you
know down there?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What do you mean? Oh that's right, Yeah, you had
a nice little quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Oh that's right, Yeah I did. Yeah, I was the center,
except they gave the ball back. I didn't handle.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Ball for a second.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
You just now got that done?
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Why just now?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
What do you mean why just now?
Speaker 6 (00:48):
Those things? Those those things take time. You got to schedule.
When I told y'all when I scheduled.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Hold on for a second, you need to text me
because I don't want to. I don't want to too many.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
No, you can ask questions, so it everybody should. Everybody
should do this. I mean that at a certain age, Oh.
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Okay, okay, I thought you were God of visected me.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I was like, oh no, no, okay, I need to
do that too. Though.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
See I'd assume that you already had that.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I should have just knocked that out right along with that.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Wait, so would you get a prostat check?
Speaker 6 (01:22):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Oh yes I did?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
How that?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:28):
You know it's good. I mean I'm healthy.
Speaker 7 (01:32):
Nothing there does part of you Wishally was there just
to I feel like he'd be a good person when
you're going through a traumatic experience, because.
Speaker 5 (01:40):
Man, yeah, i'd be like, hey, you're gonna be okay, man,
Like I'll get you like a cup of water or something.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Or maybe he should have through it with me.
Speaker 6 (01:49):
Maybe he should have been in the gurney next to me,
you know, and then that would great.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
I don't even need one, but I'm gonna get one, man,
just so we go through go through it together.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
What was the have you eaten yet? I'm assuming you
eating at this point.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
I did eat a little bit of like pool chicken
something like, not too much.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I ain't really feel like eating, bro.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
So what's the first thing you're gonna get after as
soon as you feel I.
Speaker 6 (02:12):
Don't feel really, you know, I've done nine days cleanses
like fast. Like it's like food isn't as crazy to me,
Like I don't need it as much as I used to.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
It's like a mind thing.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
Once you've gone twenty four hours without eating food once
in your life. It kind of takes on a different
meaning to you. So I'm like, not even really, I
just drank a lot of Gatorade yesterday. You know it's
Gatorade Day, because a lot of everything that was going
in was coming straight out anyway. So that's the reason
why I'm not with you right now, And it's the
(02:44):
reason why if you say LeVar and I don't answer,
that would be a reason why.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I mean, now, where are you doing the show from?
Like in a kiddie pool?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I mean, yeah, something like that, in a bathtub, something
like that.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
You went to Walgreens picked up kid's pool on discount
after labor Day to do the show from. That's called
commitment right right there. That's how it's done.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Yeah, So I'm here. I'm good.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
Like I said, the prognosis was good. They didn't have
to like clip me or anything, like, you know, no
polyps or anything. They said. It was just like a
really really good looking area. I was like, dang, well,
thank you, all.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Right, that's good.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It looks good.
Speaker 6 (03:26):
You know, hey, man, people make sure you go get it.
Get yourself checked out, man, Yeah, Man.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Get up in there and check it out.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Too many people, too many people too nervous to talk
about it or too nervous to do it. I was nervous.
I got to tell you, guys, I was very nervous.
That was very uneasy. But I got through it, and
you know for the better, you know better for it.
So make sure you go out there and get your
price state checked out.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Man, have a healthy pro state, you can have a
healthy life.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's a good point.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
There you go. Yeah, look, we're joking, but definitely when.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
I'm not joking, I'm just saying in a way that
makes it sound like I'm jo I'm there.
Speaker 5 (04:05):
You go, yeah, you get them cheeks checked out, Get
the cheeks checked out. I'd spread the cheeks. Let someone
check it out.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Well, they roll you to the side. I don't even
remember them spreading them.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
You know, it was like that. Well, actually, every time
I went to Lancing, you.
Speaker 7 (04:18):
Know, I've always said to you, they don't moon you.
They spread the cheeks. It is a different type of mood.
That's a nasty place. Nasty place that.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Well, at least they know how to put that extra
stink on it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I mean, I'll be honest, like, I respect it. I
was like, all right, that's different. You don't see that.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
You don't see that in West la Fayette. You don't
see that nan Arbor, onlys Lancing.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Dang, well, you see it in Philly, though, you see everything.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I got bad respect for the Philly fans.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, that's a different type of deal right there.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
I'll tell you what Boston too. I'll never forget. We
were playing BC and I can't.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Even say when one of the kids said to our
quarterback coach, an offensive coordinator at the time, he was shook.
You literally looked at his shoes.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
He goes, what's wrong with these?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
I was like, you're good, coach, just don't.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Listen to it.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Well, you know somebody who needs to check their bank account.
Speaker 6 (05:27):
Let's see, let's see how you press this one up.
Let's see how you oh not the press a.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah, Trent Williams, Yeah, Trent Williams, go check a.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Bank getting up there in age he needs to check
his price.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Yeah, but not quite yet. You know, he can enjoy
that cash that he just got. He's got a couple
more years of that. So the numbers are in. It's
looking like from what I've seen three years eighty two
point six six million forty eight million at signing a
twenty five point six nine million dollars signing bonus. UH
Trent Williams is back with the San Francisco forty nine ers,
(06:02):
and he spoke about getting the deal done yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
You know, Like I said, it's intricate.
Speaker 8 (06:06):
You know, I was under contract until I'm thirty eight,
so it's hard to add somebody to guarantee, you know,
eight figure salary when I'm thirty eight. And I get that,
and I feel like, in my heart of hearts, I'll
be the same player, you know, And I feel like
I work hard enough that I can can't keep that
(06:27):
brand of football the same. But I understand, you know,
I've been around long enough to where I get both
sides of it. So I didn't take that as disrespect,
you know, but that was one of the key points.
Is like y'all was under contract until I was thirty eight,
so you know, it's hard to tell somebody, Hey, you know,
they ain't never seen it before. I mean, we've seen
(06:47):
people play it that ag. We've never seen people play
and be the best at they position. It's not a quarterback,
So I get it, and that's to me, it's just
more logs in the fire to kind of prove that
I can be something that we haven't seen before.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Best alignment in football maybe gets paid.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
That's like the way you handled it too.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
To be honest, I mean, be forward and up you know, upright,
b be transparent about it like you guys went through
the you know, I wish most I wish most you know,
parties could handle negotiations like this.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
You know.
Speaker 6 (07:24):
I get why we had to stay out, you know,
and take this time to do it. I get why
we're here. I understand what the scenario is. I look
at my age. I understand these things. But I still
feel like this is my value and this is my worth.
And he had the choice to make do I do
I give in and come in and come back and
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play knowing that this is it takes me through thirty
eight and this is the situation. Or do I continue
to hold out for the value that I'm seeking and
the restructuring. So, I mean, good for him, good for
the Niners. And maybe that's why we didn't hear a
whole lot about it. Maybe that's why it wasn't a
(08:06):
very dramatic thing because you know what, we didn't hear
very much from Trent Williams and in his side when
all of this was going on, there wasn't complaining, there
wasn't demanding a trade.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
There wasn't anything like that that was taking place that
I know of.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
So just maybe this is how when you want to
restructure or you want a different contract, maybe this is,
you know, one of those times you put that into
the notebook and say, you know, this is the proper
approach to trying to go through a difficult time when
it's all about the financials without it turning into a thing,
you know in the media.
Speaker 7 (08:44):
I think there's a couple of things that stand out
to me about this. The first is and LaVar, I
think you've talked about this before. He's been through this
before in Washington, I believe, yes, yes, yeah, So I
think when you've got experience going through it, it's like
having a kid the second time versus the first time
when you have a kid the first time, like you
don't know what you don't know. There's a lot of
things that can scare you and you know you're going
(09:06):
through it and it's awesome and it's crazy, it's special,
but it's stressful and there's more emotions involved. The second time,
you're like, oh, we've been through this before. You kind
of know what to expect. And so to me, there's
not I don't want to take away from the birth
of a child saying there's not as much emotions to it.
You're happy, you're excited, you're kind of nervous or anxious
(09:26):
in some ways. But there is an element of I
guess fear or trepidation that's taken out of it because
you've got the experience and I think that's a little
bit of part of it here too. So he knows
how to handle it and he knows how this whole
thing's gonna go. He's the best tackle in football, and
I think we'd all agree it's a violent sport and
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he is at the point of attack. So to go
into the final three years of his career playing football
and to not have a contract that suits him in
regards to what he's being compensated and guarantees within it,
meaning he might have an injury that caused him to
never play again.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
And if that's the case.
Speaker 7 (10:09):
Like you better be going out there a week in
and week out and feeling good about everything, in particular
the contract that you are playing for and what you're
being paid. So this is the one contract, the one
contract this offseason that got restructured or an extension or
(10:30):
this is the one to me that made the most
sense because I kept looking at it, going well, that
needs to get done. I mean, if this team wants
to have a shot at getting back to a super
Bowl and winning a super Bowl, it needs to be restructured.
He's got some guarantees on there, and if you want
to up him and pay a little bit too, which
I think he's making about five million more than he
(10:52):
was scheduled to make under the previous deal or under
the previous contract until they restructured this, which should cover
the fines et cetera that I guess he's still going
to incur. Sometimes teams can kind of wipe that stuff away,
But I digress. The point is is between his age,
his play, and everything else, like, this was the contract
(11:15):
that needed to get done that made the most sense.
So it's unfortunately not to hold out into the season
like Jonas wants, but here we are.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's too bad. But this is the one I had
least confidence in. I just thought they were going to
get this done either way. You like, you know, there
was no when you heard them talk about it, there
was no real concern, Like there was no outward frustration.
It seemed like from John Lynch at times it was
just like, yeah, we love the guy, and you just
figured they were going to get this done. And I
think I saw somewhere even in his age, he had
(11:41):
the best past block rate percentage in the NFL. So
there's still what him Laramie Tunsil, and that's it correct
near the top as far as tackles go, and your
guys's mind, as far as best tackles in the league.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
It feels at the top of my head. I don't know,
I don't have to look.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
Well, if Tyron Smith is healthy, I mean you, he's
right at the top two. There's a number of tackles
you get thrown into the conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
But yeah, one last bite at the apple form at
his age, good for him, man, and good for good
for the Niners. Unfortunately, I believe in Super Bowl hangover.
So maybe that's a prelude into what our season picks
are going to look like tomorrow. So that's the way
I see it. But they do get the deal done,
and look, I mean, I know you guys want to
(12:24):
get here and you want to get to this point,
so we may as well get to this point. Brandon
Ayuk also spoke about getting his contract done. Now again,
this is not me. I just want to be clear
with this. I have moved on. I've moved past this
Brandon Ayuk stuff. But apparently people are still here holding
on to the storylines of last week and the previous
(12:45):
week before that and the previous month before that. So
Brandon Ayuk spoke also about his contract negotiations with the Niners,
and he took a little bit of ownership on how
things went.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
I think I'm not gonna lie, I made a little
bit more difficult than it needed to at the end.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 9 (13:01):
I mean, it was like that from from I'm not
gonna say the whole time time, but for about the
past month, I think we were pretty good.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
See, so we're all good here. We're all good with
Brandon Ayuk in the forty nine ers. So now can
we focus on the season. You guys ready to just
focus on the Niners season or you want to like
lay in bed with this story for another week or so?
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Is this your counseling session.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm good. I'm good. Listen, don't worry about me. I'm good.
Speaker 5 (13:28):
Did you get part of that contract for Brendan?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
I you I wish No, that is not the case.
I'm just, you know, want to make sure that we
have tied up all the loose ends on this forty
nine or offseason of It is kind of interesting though,
that the Niners seemingly have this pop up every single year,
like who's on the books next year that's going to
want a contract that we're going to freak out in
the off season and then right before the season starts,
(13:52):
I'll get the deal done in San fran.
Speaker 7 (13:53):
It'll be probably someone on defense. But so they've restructured
Trent Williams, they signed Brendan and I took that. They
signed McCaffrey or restructured his deal. Deebo Samuel flew under
the radar. They restructured his contract.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yes, they did.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Whin's brock perty do is okay? All right?
Speaker 5 (14:13):
So that's that'll be with that deal.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
By the way, that one's going to start some comments
and controversy because people are going to look at him
and go, well, anybody could do it. In Chanahan system.
It's like, okay, all right, so we're going to do
the whole DAC.
Speaker 7 (14:25):
But here's the thing is, you can be real about
the conversation, Like you can be real about it and say,
like Brock Purty is probably going to sign a deal
and gets some paid more than Patrick Mahomes. Let's just
be real about that. And I think we can all agree.
He's not better than Patrick Mahomes. He's not better than
Lamar Jackson. He's not better than Josh Allen, He's not
better than Joe Burrow. You can start to go down
(14:46):
a list of quarterbacks and you can sit there and say, definitively,
he's not better than these players. But he's going to
get a contract that pays him more than that. So
I understand why the conversation happens, but it this is
part of the business. And then if the forty nine
ers believe he's their guy, that's the going rate at
that position.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
And that's how it works.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
I mean, just the final point of it from me,
If if any and everybody could do it, then Trey
Lance would been the starter and Trey Lance would still
be in San fran I mean, I just feel like
the way it all played out, they they still gave
him an opportunity when he came back from his injury,
he still got an opportunity. They saw brock Perdy as
(15:31):
their guy, and they stood. They stuck with that. So,
you know, to say that he wouldn't be deserving of it.
He did have to beat out a draft pick to
be able to be in a position that he's in
right now. So it wasn't like it was just an
easy sailing, Oh, I'm in Kyle Shanahan's offense, I'm good
to go. He really did have have circumstances that had
(15:54):
to play out for him to even have the opportunity
to be able to show his wheares on the field.
So it definitely wouldn't come as an unearned opportunity or
unearned contract for brock Purty to continue to lead the team.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
He has held the position.
Speaker 6 (16:11):
I mean, look, your boy Rush took over in Dallas,
and I was like, yeah, look at that, Look at
what he going, Look look at what he's got going
on right that that that was very short lived, so
it could have been short filed Rush.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
That felt the Rush, Yeah, I did feel the r.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
You ever listen to Rush back when you're in college.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, of course, yeah, of course.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Anyways, we had some Rush on Run.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
There's a good we should come back to Rush.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
There's a good electronica song called as the Rush Comes God.
Who is a DJ? Is a tiesto?
Speaker 6 (16:41):
Yeah, Rapid Radios it is, yeahars on top of it.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
They should do it.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
You guys want to hear some quotes from Stefan Diggs
talking about his departure from the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, you've
never really gotten any clarity on so he yes, please.
He spoke with with GQ Sports recently and he just
talked about folks. No GQ.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
He by the way, there's a GT Sports, So there's
GQ and GQ Sports.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Now, I guess I don't know. I mean, it's like
DMZ that's nice shoes though. But he spoke, He spoke.
He spoke with GQ Sports recently and you know, just
talked about his mental space. He was not in a
great mental space at the end of last year, but
then got specific about just what happened in Buffalo. As
(18:13):
far as a game plan, standpoint went and said, quote,
the games looked a lot different, did dig said of
the final thirteen weeks of the season. You can blame me.
I don't mind blaming me. I got big ass shoulders.
But pay attention, pay real close attention. Watch the game.
Of course, there's plenty of plays on my back, but
there's a lot of plays that didn't go my way.
I need a lot of things to go my way
(18:34):
to get the ball. You can't roll out of bed
and get eight hundred yards in the first eight games.
Your best receiver is doing that, You tell me about
the last ten what changed? Were there changes going on?
I just pay attention to what really happened and not
what people try to act like happen. Like for the
last ten games, I forgot how to fing play football
when talking about his Hall of Fame bid quote, I
(18:56):
pay real close attention. This bleep is not game to me,
end quote. So kind of started to take responsibility and
then sort of pushed it off. You know, I'm not
sure I want this anymore, So let me go ahead
and push it off and be honest about how things went.
And maybe now it makes sense why they swallowed as
much money as they did just to move on from
him and just focus on this year without him.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
All right, but at that time of her, folks, it
is time for a fact check.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
That's right. We don't just do it.
Speaker 7 (19:24):
In politics, we do it in sports too. Here's what
we got, Johnson Stefan Diggs is right. From week nine
on last season. Obviously, his yardage total was down, but
it was also his targets were down significantly.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
In fact, if.
Speaker 7 (19:41):
You look at the first eight games, there was six
different games he was targeted double digits or more. From
Week nine to Week seventeen he was only targeted twice.
That's eleven times too, and back to back weeks Week twelve,
Week thirteen versus Philly and Kansas City eleven times. But
(20:01):
he never went over one hundred yards receiving the rest
of the season, and that includes the playoffs. And this
is after going over one hundred yards for four straight weeks,
really five out of six to start the season.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
How far off was he?
Speaker 6 (20:21):
How far off was who? How far off was he
on those hundred yards like in those games? Was he significantly?
In fact, the only game that he really got close
to one hundred yards would have been a Week nine
at Cincinnati had eighty six and then a week seventeen
at Miami he had eighty seven. I mean there were
weeks where he didn't even go over fifty yards receiving.
(20:44):
Is it attributed to the targets? Is attributed to Yeah?
I mean I mean Kansas City year.
Speaker 7 (20:50):
You know, Kansas City obvious had a good game plan
against if you remember the Week thirteen matchup, last year's
tight game, Casey won in case twenty seventeen, but they
did a good job against I mean, he was targeting
about eleven times when we had four catches for twenty
four yards. And look here, here's what we don't know.
Ken Dorsey was the offensive coordinator. He was dismissed. They
(21:11):
bring in Joe Brady. Joe Brady then takes over. You know,
we don't know if Joe Brady looked at.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
This offense and said, hey, I'm gonna try to spread
the football round.
Speaker 7 (21:21):
You know it's Stephan. You know, we've been trying to
get you the football down the field. We're gonna try
to get the ball in your hands quicker or in
some case we're gonna highlight some other pieces. You don't
know what the philosophy was, but I think the writing's
on the wall. It was a disconnect between Ken Dorsey
and how he viewed Stepan Diggs and Joe Brady. And
the one thing I will say to you about Ken
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Dorsey that I know for a fact is you know,
he came out of Miami and during his time Miami,
he was coached by Guy nam Rod Chazinsky, Rob Chazinsky
and up being my offensive coordinator for the first two
years in Cleveland.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
Brilliant offensive mine. I love Chud to this day.
Speaker 7 (22:00):
Really really great scheme and play caller, and Ken was
a part of our team those two years, and one
of the things that Chud would always preaches, think playmakers,
not plays, because a guy like Kellen Winslow, a guy
like Brelan Edwards will go up and make it play
regardless of what the coverage is, regardless of what.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Just think playmakers.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
And if you look at the first eight weeks of
Buffalo last year, Ken Dorsey's calling those games and probably
coaching Josh Allen with that exact thought of mind, think playmakers,
not plays, because Diggs was targeted significantly more than after
that point in a week nine moving forward. So it
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is a bit interesting to think about whether it's Sean
McDermott's call, who knows how involved he gets in the offense,
or Joe Brady. But it does feel like there's a
disconnect there for.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Sure that detain do How did they finish out?
Speaker 2 (22:55):
That was gonna be my point. They were better?
Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, better?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Okay, so they better then that's why obviously you feel
comfortable getting rid of them.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
But it.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Let me put it this way, because that's not technically true.
Speaker 7 (23:09):
Ok the first four weeks they were actually one and three,
So it wasn't until how they finished the season winning
five straight where they improved, but initially when he talks
about the dissnec between week eight to week nine, they
were they actually struggled mightily?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Did they? Did they?
Speaker 6 (23:27):
And and any estimation did they benefit from Stefan Diggs
being on the field as almost like a decoy? Does
does it make because if if you're you're like, okay,
we can get we can have success. We don't have
to target them, we can get rid of them. Do
you lose the element that you had being able to
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target the other players that you were targeting using the
other players you were using because you had the benefit
of the defense. Is still game planning Stefon Diggs and
now you don't have that this year?
Speaker 4 (23:59):
Is that is?
Speaker 6 (24:01):
Is it safe to say that that's a possibility of
how this plays out?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Maybe?
Speaker 7 (24:06):
I mean looking at the snap percentage and I kind
of do the math here in order to get this done.
But his average offensive snap percentage was higher I think
looking over these stats and that's probably not by a ton,
but it does look like it was higher because there
was weeks like in fourteen and fifteen where he played
forty six percent of the snaps sixty percent of the snaps.
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He didn't play less than sixty six percent of the
snaps four any one game in the first eight weeks,
So it does seem like there was even times when
he wasn't even on the field as much.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
And also it felt like they were going like there
was a little bit more of a thought to give
Gabe Davis opportunities. Khalil Shakir had a big game, a
couple of big games there, Dalton Kincaid started to come alive.
It just like I wonder though, this if if based
on what they have to fork up, like thirty five
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million dollars they had to eat to get rid of
him this year going into the final year of his deal,
Like how bad was it behind the scenes that if
it's all about playmakers and not plays and you're you're
looking at a guy who's got the talent and the
ability that he is because like when he talks without
the Hall of Fame, like he's got a shot, Like
there's a chance he could be a Hall of Fame player.
How do you not make that work? Like he got
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one year left, it's going to be cheaper theoretically than
it is to keep him. That it would be to
part with him, Like how bad must it have been
to where they just had to get rid of it?
Like and Pete Prisco's made the point a couple of
times addition by subtraction, but damn, he's a good player
and gave Davis is gone, like like they're looking for
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pieces there. That's why they draft a key on Coleman.
I just wonder what the hell went wrong behind the
scenes that they couldn't make that work at least one
more year.
Speaker 6 (25:52):
You had to be the locker room, if you ask me.
That's it had to be him poisoning the like his
way may have been a turn off because it's come
out in the media at times. Listen, I know Stephan
Diggs personally. He's not a bad dude at all. He's
a cool dude to be around. If you know him,
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he's like super cool cat, the whole family, super cool people.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
So I don't.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I would say he's very passionate about what he does.
And I came across and in his quote, he's very passionate.
He cares about his you know, his reputation, he cares
about his performances, he cares, he cares a ton about
what what goes on and how it plays out. So
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I would think that because he has such it's almost
like and I'll say it's not a very it's it's
not a complete comparison. I won't say it's a comparison,
but what I will say is is it could be
something like what happened with what was what was the
receiver that went to Arizona from from Houston? What DeAndre
Hockhaus Right, it could be a situation where he's disgruntled,
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you know, speaking of Diggs, he was disgruntled based upon
what his targets were and his involvement in the offense.
But his influence over the locker room is significant. It's significant.
So if you have disgruntled and you have significant influence
in the locker room, that's a horrible combination if you're
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a coach, right, and just god, So I.
Speaker 7 (27:26):
Was say, just to get the timing right of when
everything transpired, because you know, for Digs, he talks about
week eight and then after week eight, the change didn't
happen from offensive coordinator until after their tenth game of
the season. So after week ten, which they did to
Jonas's point earlier, they improved with the change to Joe Brady.
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You know how much of that honestly had to do
with the you know, changing coordinator and all that. Maybe
that's what you attributed to. I don't know, but if
you started tracking them from week eleven moving forward, yes,
only lost one game the rest of the season. However, Digs,
for whatever reason, seems to be pointing to week eight,
which is where he can see his you know, targets
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everything else dropped significantly.
Speaker 6 (28:12):
Which he was upset the year before. Wasn't he like
he was upset going out of the year before. So
I don't do we pinpoint it and say it's because
they got rid of one coordinator and brought in a
new one, because he was he was bothered leaving the playoffs,
you know, wasn't that was or.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
Was that the year before?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
But no, that was the year before, this past year
or the offseason before this past year was when he
left training camp? Remember just right right?
Speaker 5 (28:37):
Can theory?
Speaker 7 (28:38):
Can I just throw a spect theory because like LeVar,
every time I've been around Stefan Diggs, he's been a
really nice guy. He's been awesome, And I'm gonna chock
this up to the fact that I don't know, he's
human like what we're competitors do we're athletes. There's gonna
be emotions involved, Like when you're not getting the football,
you're probably gonna be frustrated when you feel like you're
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one of the best receivers in the NFL, right and
you have a quarterback who's capable, So it's not even
like it's not because the quarterback is not capable. He's capable,
but they're not getting you the football, and so that
can be frustrating. Like it's it's human nature to be
able to say, like things aren't going well, I can
help this football team out, and it's probably it's probably
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frustrating for him to have to deal with some of that.
And so we tend to look at wide receivers we
see glimpse on the sidelines and all that, like maybe
it wasn't that bad behind the scenes. Who knows, maybe
it was his representation. Like there's so many things you
don't know what caused this, and you know, at the
end of the day, it doesn't really matter, I guess.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
I mean he's moved on, the bills have moved on.
We'll see who gets the better end of that. As
the textans look loaded and the Bills kind of feel
like they're in reload mode. Maybe not, but like we
always have to make so much of the reactions of
players on the sidelines and their emotions, and it's like, dude,
it's football, Like what do you expect. He's frustrated, he's mad.
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There's so much time that goes into this.
Speaker 7 (30:07):
So that's the hard part for me is we tend
to sensationalize, you know, this this small snapshot, and we
tend to you know, make a story about one moment
in someone's life and make it about that, and it's like, well,
maybe just maybe just frustrating. A punch of other guys
were probably frustrated they didn't have the camera on at
that moment either.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
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Speaker 2 (30:35):
It is a Wednesday here and that means traditions, and
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old p H Petros.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Good morning morning, Hello, Hello there he is.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I mean congratulations. USC football is back.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
Certainly looked like it, didn't it.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
They played some defenses.
Speaker 4 (31:12):
Yeah, that's the first time in many many years like
there's been some individual great performances. Sam Darnold was great,
no offense. LeVar we had well, he beat Penn State in.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
That Rose Bull.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
Marquise Lee was really really individually spectacular. Caleb Williams was
a great individual player. But that's the best top to
bottom team effort that I've seen from USC as far
as like a football team goes since like the ed
Ojeron Interim era. Because they tackled. They tackled people in
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the open field. They weren't just a SIEV defensively, you
couldn't just run all over them. And then something else
we talked about Lincoln I League calling plays on time.
The ball getting out when it's supposed to kind of
helps the offense create an identity and the team create
an identity around that. And I was really impressed. And
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USC was the more poised football team. And I said
this yesterday. If you had told me Friday night last
week that somebody who is going to do a fake
shotgun blast in a guy's face after scoring a touchdown
and get a penalty. I would have told you for
sure that would be a USC guy. I mean I
would tell you nine times out of ten that would
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be a USC guy. It wasn't. It was an LSU guy.
And they made Brian Kelly go full Nikita Khrushchev and
pound the table and take all kinds of personal accountability.
It was the top to bottom best performance I've seen
from a USC football team since Ed was the head coach,
and I have to give him credit because well, you
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can't give them all the credit because they didn't want
to play the game, so they spent most of the
offseason trying to get out of playing against LSU. But
then you see what happens, Right, If USC gets a
big victory against a big time program, it's a lot
bigger and better than beating Utah State by fifty. It
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gets everybody involved, you move up in the polls. Another
great example as to why they need to play Notre
Dame every year and why Lincoln Riley needs to worry
about calling plays and creating a team culture as opposed
to scheduling or who USC is going to play. You
don't worry about that, Lincoln. You play who's on the
schedule and see if you can beat them before you
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leave for the NFL. But overall, I was very, very
impressed with the whole thing, and it gave me the
impression that USC is probably not going to be as
helpless as people think in the Big Ten.
Speaker 7 (33:53):
You know what I loved about that game, Petros I
had the opportunity to sit down with Miller Moss during
the Big Ten media days, which a wonderful young man,
I mean really just said all the right things, does
the right things.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
Phil's genuine, I mean.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
Because he stayed right. I mean, here's the guy that
actually stay.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
Yeah, I was gonna get to that.
Speaker 7 (34:11):
I was just gonna say, like it was an example
really but for both quarterbacks like nuss Meyer who stayed
waited his opportunity, Miller Moss who stayed waited for his opportunity,
and I thought both quarterbacks played outstanding, like absolutely outstanding,
and it should be a lesson to other quarterbacks out
there who are watching that, going like, you don't need
to go to some other school to eventually transfer to
another school to then like finally feel like you're there,
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you've arrived. I mean, not trying to compare to DJU,
but I mean, look out that's worked out so far
two games into this season. But I thought that was
almost like a telling sign of maybe this can slow
down some of the transfer portal stuff we see and
we allow kids to actually develop through.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
A program like that, and and here's here's the reward.
Speaker 4 (34:55):
Yeah, I mean it goes against everything that I guess
go to relate generationally. These young people kind of expect,
which is immediate gratification, and you're not going to get
that hanging around and working and trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Now.
Speaker 4 (35:11):
A guy like dj Ujung dele La, he's got to
make money now, right because he's not an NFL prospect
like he was when he was coming out of high school.
So if somebody's going to pay him six hundred and
fifty thousand dollars to play football in college, that's probably
going to be the biggest paycheck he's going to get.
And for those of us that watched him play year
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in and year out, he's gotten less and less twitchy
and made less I thought.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Oregon State, though he actually did a lot for his
draft stock.
Speaker 7 (35:39):
I think that was an opportunity that actually led me
to think, maybe this kid can play.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Yeah, at the next level.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
I don't know. I mean the underground rumblings when he
was even when he started the first week he started
at Oregon State was that the backup was better than
him and Aiden Chiles, the kid who's now starting at
Michigan State. But it took the over Yeah, and he's
getting his experience now with Jonathan Smith. So I thought
he did a lot better at Oregon State. And in fact,
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that was one of my impressions watching the Florida State
game on Monday night, which was Wow, Jonathan Smith really
got all he could out of this guy. And at
the same time, the rumblings were, man, we got to
play the other guy. Maybe the other guy's going to
take us where we need to go. DJ's probably not
that guy, and he ended up transferring. Obviously their circumstances
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changed dramatically, But you're right, I mean, hanging in there.
But that's college football that we grew up with too, right,
Like we saw a ton of guys who were a
certain way when they came in and then they were
a whole different player. Totally differently developed three or four
years later, Like that's kind of what we're used to
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because it was a lot more difficult to transfer, a
lot more difficult to hang up your shoes and say
I'm not doing this or screw you guys, I'm going home.
That's not really part of what we grew up with
in football. So when we see somebody do something like
Miller Moss that we are kind of used to seeing,
I mean, those are the stories that we're kind of
used to celebrating on our sport twenty years ago. When
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we see it now, it's even more and more impressive
with the Nutsmeyer guy and Miller Moss. I don't know
if it's going to make much of a difference. I
think the money involved and the people involved, and how
easy it is to say I don't like this place
anymore because the strength coach pissed me off is still
going to be pretty prevalent. But we need to close
one of those transfer portals, at least one.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
I heard you say something pretty interesting in that initial
talk about USC winning is that maybe they're not as
you know, as weak as or may may not have
the results that people may think that they have In
the Big Ten after that game? Are you bullish on them? Like,
how well do you think they can do in a
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Big Ten? I don't know, I mean just asking for
a friend.
Speaker 4 (38:02):
I'm not exactly sure how. I just thought it was
a completely different mentality that I saw. And yes, one
game is one game, and in football, especially if you're
inside a team watching the tape of the week, one
is almost unrecognizable when you get into October and start
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to develop your identity a little bit more. But I
guess what stood out to me to make me think, Wow,
this is a whole different vibe was the coaching hires
that they made. You know, I know that they went
out and hired real defensive coaches. Now, how quickly can
you fix a personnel group, a linebacker group, a defensive
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line group, a secondary I've seen an offensive line group
fixed over one offseason, and it blew my mind because
it was all the same guys, but they changed coaches,
and it blew my mind to see that happen. That
was many years ago. And this was kind of equally
mind blowing to see guys making tackles in the open
field for USC or stopping people right at the marker
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and playing disciplined on defense and making adjustments in the
second half to where there wasn't as much room for
the wide receivers and the cushion that was there early
was no longer there. All that stuff kind of made
me feel like, Wow, Lincoln Riley did something. They forced
him to fire. All these air raid, big twelve soft guys,
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Dant and Lynn matt Enz, Doug Belk, these coaches have
come in and changed USC's mentality in that way. I
feel a lot better about how they're going to be
up against because LSU is big, strong and fast. Say
what you will about Brian Kelly. They only won nine
games or ten games, and he hasn't gotten them over
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the absolute hump yet, but they're big, strong and fast
and USC was able to stand up to that in
a way that they haven't been in the past under
this coach and under Clay Helton. So overall, I guess
it was heartening to feel like, Wow, you really can
fix something. Hiring a different staff and paying attention to
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detail for one offseason. So they'll beat up Utah State
and then they'll take a week off. We'll get an
idea what Michigan is when they go out to the
Big House and play cheron more.
Speaker 2 (40:29):
Petros Papadegas joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, get
him on X at the Old p So what else
jumped out to you Week one? In college football? Was
there a performance you saw that either surprised you outside
of USC or one that you saw Petros that you
looked at and said, well, what the hell was that?
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Well, Ucla only beating Hawaii by three was a bit
of a trip.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah. Oh but you know, you know, Jonas won't like
you saying that. Well, yeah, but the Hawaii battled, you know,
you know, they could have won.
Speaker 4 (40:57):
They came out and they came out and stopped them
and scored right away, and I was like, damn. And
then I started working Arizona State.
Speaker 6 (41:06):
E Petros Jonas said, you know, Rainbow Warriors winning may
become a new trend. You know, if they had won
that guess.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
It's a great program that nearly they tried to get
rid of.
Speaker 4 (41:17):
They're one and one. Yeah, they filled up the ching
how about it?
Speaker 2 (41:22):
Eight people.
Speaker 4 (41:24):
It's always interesting to see, like you never really know
what you got any college football team, but in the
modern era of the transfer portal and all that, you
really don't know what you have, and sometimes you look
at teams on paper, like I had Wyoming Arizona State.
Wyoming won nine games last year, beat Texas Tech, played
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Texas tough in Texas in the fourth quarter, I think
the game was tied, and they went to Arizona State
with a lot of the same personnel, a new coach,
but you know, from the same staff of Craig Bowle,
and got absolutely blown away by Arizona State. I mean
an Arizona State team. They got shut out almost or
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did get shut out by Fresno State last year in
a game I did, and I was just absolutely dumbfounded
with how well they played. Their transfer guys played a
couple of guys they got from New Mexico State. Their
quarterback was really poised within the offense. Like that kind
of thing's really interesting, like, Okay, this guy's from New
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Mexico State, this guy's from Sacramento State, this guy's from
Austin p and yet they're playing together great. Last year
they had a bunch of different transfers and it didn't
come together like that. So it's always really interesting to
see what happens when you put the product on the
plate and sitting in front of a customer and the
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game actually unfolds. So it was a fun first week.
It's always great to watch, maybe a little bit too
many lopsided victories, the feasting on the cupcakes, because the
games that you're really interested in, the ones we're really
talking about, is where people actually played each other. Right,
Florida State, Boston College, SCLSU, and so on and so forth.
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And with a twelve team college football playoff, I don't
see why we can't have meaningful games week in and
week out during the regular season and play and play
and schedule bravely during the non conference. Yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 7 (43:32):
I mean, my god, I mean theoretically, you know you're
gonna get some three loss teams that make it in
a twelve team playoff. I wish they went to sixteen
for that reason, Petros, because because I think, one, I'm
not sure teams need buys. You know, I don't want
to upset anyone by saying that. I know it can
be an extra long season then for especially teams that
plant conference and all that.
Speaker 5 (43:52):
But I guess what the general point is. It just
it feels like, do we need.
Speaker 7 (43:57):
To let some teams take off on a buy and
then you know, I let that whole process sort itself out.
Speaker 5 (44:02):
I'd love to be a little more inclusive. I just
want to generally ask you.
Speaker 7 (44:05):
What were some what was like one thing that surprised
you about Week one college football and then one of
the things that you kind of thought and going into
the season that it was kind of confirmed with what
you saw.
Speaker 4 (44:15):
It's a little early to dig in my mind like that.
USC surprised me, no doubt. I was very pleasantly surprised
by just top to bottom USC's performance and the poise
and the way that whole thing was handled.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
I was impressed.
Speaker 4 (44:31):
So USC surprised me. I was surprised by Arizona State
since that was the game I called bye weeks. I
mean the point you make, Brady, I think goes to
a bigger point where it was twelveteen playoffs, sixteen team playoff,
thirty team playoff like the NCAA tournament. I don't care,
but we need schedule uniformity because if we're going to
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have a big playoff where everybody's earning their way in,
we have to have schedule uniformity. Because we have to
get rid of the committee. Because there's nothing worse, nothing
more counterproductive in all of society than a goddamn committee
and that's got to go. So that's that's where we
have to get to. Whether that means you don't get
a bye or this person gets a buy. I don't
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know Hawaii, you know UCLA needs a buy after going
all the way out there in Hawaii and beating them
by three points, and us he's gonna need a buye
after beating up on Utah State before they go to Michigan.
But I take your point that we need schedule uniformity.
We need to have something where we don't have to
consult a TV company about who should get into the
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playoffs and some fake committee that they put together. So
that's my soapbox moment there. What didn't surprise me.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Kirk curve Street's dog.
Speaker 4 (45:49):
Yeah, dude, I gotta be honest. I got you know,
I know that there's a lot of dog lovers out there,
and I grew up with dogs. I like animals. I
got my lizard here. But I just don't get it.
I just I don't understand how people don't haven't figured
out how what a gigantic hindrance that is to everybody
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else that works there, and if if it was so
great to bring your dog to work, and it was
such a wonderful thing, why doesn't everybody get to do it? Well? Why?
Because it's because it's a huge distraction. Look, I've always
had a huge problem with people bringing their dog to
football practice, right, Like, by the time we get done
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playing Pop Warner football, we shouldn't have to deal with
anybody's dog on the practice field. It's not a park.
It's not a place for your dog to crap. Right.
If we're on a practice field practicing football, it's not
fun for the sideline girl to bring her dog and
everybody to pet the dog because they want to have
sex with the sideline Like, leave us alonehere, man, Damn.
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I got a problem with that because it's it's not
it's not for people to have to deal with your
dog in a place of business. Uh, it's just not.
And why can't the production manager bring the dog? Why
can't the stage manager bring a dog? Why can't Why
can't Fowler bring a dog?
Speaker 2 (47:14):
What?
Speaker 6 (47:15):
You know, Fowler could bring a dog. You know, Fowler
could bring a dog if he wanted.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I don't think they can. Like, that's the thing it's
I find I find it to be an insult to
everybody that does the job, everybody that's there.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
You know, I didn't even I didn't know that that
was the thing until you brought it up last year
and then I'm watching the game. I was it Monday.
I forget which game it was he was doing, but
like he was like they were doing a shot inside
the booth and you could see him reaching down petting
the dog while he's talking.
Speaker 4 (47:42):
Yeah, and it's very natural. Anybody loves it. It's great.
Speaker 3 (47:47):
It might be a service dog.
Speaker 4 (47:48):
Yeah, I'm sure it's his emotional support animal, because I'm
sure like he's freaked out, or he's tired of traveling,
or he's lost his mind or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (47:58):
There's a lot, there's there's a lot going on there,
and that's fine.
Speaker 4 (48:01):
I mean, but like what, there's two ways to look
at this. You could look at it like, Okay, Lebron
James has done whatever. He should be able to do
whatever he wants because he's the best and biggest athlete
in the world, one of the top five. You know,
he should be able to do whatever he wants. He
should be able to fire whatever coach he wants. He
(48:23):
should be able to hire his son and all of
these things because that's what Lebron has earned through his
lifetime of service. He's also earned, you know, billions of dollars,
but he's also earned this for his lifetime of service
to the NBA. Or Kobe deserved that big contract that
crippled the Lakers at the end of his career because
(48:46):
and could.
Speaker 3 (48:46):
Have also hired his daughter too, right.
Speaker 4 (48:48):
And because it's Kobe right, you could say that you know,
but you or you could also say, like you sit
there and preach how we're all pulling the same ores
and all doing this, but there's rules that only apply
to me. And Kirk kirk Street a great broadcaster, a
great guy in my experience. Yeah, I've always liked Kirk
(49:09):
kurb Street. There's nothing not to like. He does a
great Kurt or Kirk Kirk He's uh, he's yeah, Kirk.
Speaker 5 (49:15):
Okay, it sounds like Kurt.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
I'm sorry, I have a lisp.
Speaker 3 (49:18):
Hey, Look, Brady does that every single time.
Speaker 4 (49:22):
This is the Jay.
Speaker 5 (49:23):
This goes back to the Jay grew and as head
coach for Washington, when it sounded like he was calling
of Kurt, but you couldn't pick up on the accent.
So he was saying Kirk. He doesn't finish the end
of it, just says.
Speaker 4 (49:36):
Kurt knows somebody Like there's like people's name like Brendan
or Brennan or Brendan Brandon. And if you just say
it real fast, but you know, it's like you can
do it. What does that sound like?
Speaker 1 (49:47):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (49:47):
You know, like like Brandan Brennan. It was just like
real quick, just say it really fast.
Speaker 7 (49:56):
I always thought that you would not do something like
that because I usually you pride yourself on like knowing
everyone's name.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
No, I do, But if you're in the heat of
the moment, you gotta get the name out, you know,
You've got to get and or the play by play
guy says it wrong and you got to somehow say
it halfway right to not embarrass him right, but but
not say it wrong so you can get corrected on
Twitter as well. I'm not allowed to use.
Speaker 5 (50:18):
The strategy, use the same strategy.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
That's good to know the dog bothers me. I'm very
I'm bothered by the dog.
Speaker 3 (50:24):
Back to the original point.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I honestly I can't. I can't pick up the poop,
Like what does he go to the bathroom?
Speaker 5 (50:29):
I have so many questions.
Speaker 6 (50:30):
He's excitably so well trained at this point, like he
can hold it until he gets to work.
Speaker 2 (50:35):
You think that dog's going to hold a craft for
three and a half hours, Yeah, three and a half.
Speaker 4 (50:39):
He's probably there for nine you know, Like what time
does he get there?
Speaker 6 (50:43):
Like, honestly, he's built into the to the team though.
They know when to take him for a respite. Yeah,
he probably knows how to use the commote, to be honest.
Speaker 4 (50:51):
It's a travesty and I'm sure that everybody.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
I'm sure that me and you will be there together.
Speaker 6 (50:57):
I'll bring mister Stix, you bring the name of your
and we'll hang out together.
Speaker 4 (51:01):
A couple of Hall of famers get to do whatever
they want. Everybody else leave your dogs at home.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
There is the great is pets On fire Man Pee.
We got to run, but real quick, mister Petros. If
people want to hear you this week and what game
you calling, I'm available this weekend. I'm all, oh nice,
all right, So you get to.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
What you want to do for the games? Petros? Where
you want to meet?
Speaker 2 (51:24):
Yeah, I want to get paid.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
Let me and Jonas know and me me and Lee
will meet you.
Speaker 4 (51:29):
I'd like to get paid whatever, ok uh pee, we
love you.
Speaker 2 (51:34):
We'll do it again next week. There is the great
Petross pompad
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