September 6, 2024 • 35 mins
Lamar Jackson falls just short of Patrick Mahomes, yet again. The guys preview the Packers vs the Eagles in Brazil. Plus a preview of the weekend on “Picks Against the Spread.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
This you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
LeVar you annimal, what mean? Yeah? Yeah, VR, we don't
need no Cherry Red popin lock.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
That's right? This song my song?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah it is?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh we thought it was yours? This is yours? Brady, No,
all right?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I mean I like it, like if I swear I
can't wait, Like I like this cute.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
They're like if you gave me a list of one
hundred songs.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Especially look, especially after getting that breaking news earlier in
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, I get it. I can't wait. I mean
you can get it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Wow, the drive for five is.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Real, Baby, I can't wait.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Dang.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Who is that?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
By the way, who sings that?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
New Shoots?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Oh? I mean is that right, Lee, Yeah, new new shoots.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
New shoots, or new shoes, new shoes, new shoes, Yeah,
new shoes, new shoes, new shoes.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I don't even know what I'm talking about with the
z new shoes. I mean the Silvar song should be
asking him.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
You know that's a nice song. I do know that song.
That's that definitely was growing up on that song. I
remember days listening to it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's more the b the very beginning that's hot definitely, which,
by the way, that's more like Jonas's wheelhouse.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He always play back to that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Not true.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I'm more of a depeche Mode. Give me depeche Mode, Lauri.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Couldn't you imagine Jonas and his black leather jacket that
has had pretty much since the nineteen eighties in a
irack t top camaro with one of those giant eagles
on the hood, be popping, popping, Just play the beginning
of the songet he could let me just the.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Beginning be heard again, let me hear it again? Could
you hear at the beginning with that?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Heard again?
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Yeah, let's hear some new shoes news. But you can
do it, you can do it, old I give us
so we were efforting here. All right, we've got some
new shoes coming your way here, uh from.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
The some Burt Reynolds action. Can you imagine this?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Jonas pulls up, Yeah, pops, the top's already popped off.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, he just opens the door, opens the he's got
black jeans with with that black leather jacket with.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Holes in it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, and it just it just sits on the hood,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He just sits there, drops his chin down with toothpick
in his mouth.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Roll the window. You already already out of the car, all.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right, in the car, and he takes let's take it.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We're talking about you, Bud, all right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I was gonna give the uh the commentary.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
He takes his his sunglasses off, and then Brady Quinn
comes walking around the back of the car and stands
next to him with his leather jacket on and his sunglasses,
and then he takes his glasses off, and then he
drops his chin and he looks down as well, and
then the photo shoot starts.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, Bawn, and then we just say, anybody with the
last name Lopez come with us, and they just roll
on out. That works, That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But but that car that you're in is only a
two seater. I believe that's the point.
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Speaker 6 (04:13):
Tire rack dot Com The way tire by should be.
By the way, Lee, I really will send over my
song request today. I meet it this time, not messing around,
can't wait, not far around.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
The well done, no pun intended.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Alright, all right, So the NFL season is underway. We
had game one last night. Bar We had the technical
difficulties to start off the show. But you thought your
takeaway after you and I picked the Kansas City Chiefs
minus three, never in doubt, never in doubt, No.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I was pretty I was pretty confident that they would
cover that. You know what my takeaway from the game,
Fellas was this Kansas City Chiefs team has now established
an inner culture that is just it's very business like.
You know, say what you want to say about Kelsey
and what he's got going on. You know, he's got
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a lot of things outside of football going on. Say
what you want to say. About all of the things
that Patrick Mahomes has with all of the you know,
commercial shoots and stuff like that. He's very a public
figure as well. There doesn't seem to be any distractions
to their preparation and how they approach what their business is.
(05:30):
I'll say that that's what I took away. Another takeaway
was there's now an understanding and an expectation that if
you're considered to be that next guy up, then be
that next guy up.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It's like, if you're going to replace.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
A linebacker in Pittsburgh, then you had better come with
the same exactly. It's so crazy that they're all the
same people, Like from Greg Lloyd to James Harrison, you know,
to you you name, they're all the same people. And
I think that that's what's developing in Kansas City. The
receiver's position. It's like they may look different, but it's
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like the same person. They're gonna bring an element to
the table that is explosive, that is exciting, and you
like to see it. And that's what I think we
saw out of the rookie last evening. I mean so
much so, where you know, you got Tarik Hill chiming
in on social media about how good he looked and
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how fast he looked out there. I just think this
Kansas City Chiefs team knows how to go about their business.
It's very workmen like and it's interesting because it's not
as maybe it doesn't seem like it would be as
buttoned up as when we saw the dominant run by
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the Patriots, even though you had some really interesting personalities
on that team, with like guys like Tye law interesting personality,
Lawyer Malloy, interesting personality.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Uh, Kevin Folk, Uh is it Kevin? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I believe it's Kevin Kevin Folk, the running back of
interesting personality like uh, big McGinnis, Willie mcginni's big personality.
But you didn't see them like as they're nowhere near
even with Brady.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
They weren't what big Willie.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
And strong and gonna get friction on byby got Willie.
So anyway, none of those guys on that Patriots team
were as media public or or not media public, but
like commercially public, like who was really commercially out there
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from that Patriots team. And yet you have Kelsey and
and you have Mahomes that are like literally they're the
faces of the NFL in terms of marketing and branding
and commercials and all these different brands, and it has
had no impact on their ability to achieve. I think
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give Andy Reid a ton of credit for being able
to be the facilitator as the head coach to have
this team be able to stay as focused as they
do with all of the noise going around them. Give Spagnola.
I don't think Spags gets the credit that he's deserving
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of for the job that he does as a defensive coordinator.
If you take Spags away, this team isn't the team
that it is.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Spags is even calling timeouts now.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You know, Bro, the dude is the man. Bro, And
you want to talk about somebody who comes out with
schemes and listen, the Baltimore offense. I mean, Lamar Jackson
had a night. He had a hell of a night.
He had a career night. But some way, somehow, this
dude figures out how to offset what these dudes do.
(09:08):
And listen, they're a tot type away from me being
able to say or having to say that wasn't the
case because they pulled it out. But that game was
was a well played game. The defense did what they
needed to do, Like regardless of what people may say
or have opinion wise, I just think that it's a
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well rounded team and it looks like they have the
potential to be one hundred percent, not a little percent.
They have a potential to be one hundred percent better
than what they have been in the past. And that
was my takeaway. I think they're a dangerous team. I
think they're a scary team to look at this year.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, I think even when you consider there was no
Hollywood Brown. You know, we can talk about Xavier Worthy
as a rookie first game, made some big plays and
touches when called upon.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But what stood out to me was they still have
another element of their offense that was not even introduced.
So that's the scary thing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I think, to your point, LeVar, like the consistency
of the Kansas City Chiefs with all the other things
that are happening around.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Them, it is remarkable. It truly is remarkable, and it's
a credit.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
To all involve the front office, the coaching staff, the players,
et cetera. But I thought last night's game was more
about Baltimore, and it was more about Baltimore for this
reason because you know, look, the outcome of that game.
I'm not gonna say it doesn't matter. It matters for
you know, those of you are betting, and it could matter.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
For the number one overall seed in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Remember, Baltimore had the best record last season and that's
why they hosted Kansas City and the AFC Championship game.
So it's it could be significant in that respect. But
I think we both know that both these teams are
playoff teams. At least in my opinion, Baltimore is. They're
good to Baltimore. But this was a line in the
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sand kind of moment for me in watching Patrick Mahomes
who kind of like effortlessly just finds ways of completing
balls and doesn't leave the pocket until he has to
where when he has to make a play, he makes
a play. And when you compare that to Lamar Jackson
and you look at the fact that he is a
two time MVP, it's it's a foregone conclusion. They're gonna
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win enough games to get into the playoffs. But then
it becomes about what can you do once you get
in the playoffs. And and this is like the same
conversation that I think people have about Josh Allen, the
only difference is that it feels like in the moments
with Buffalo and Josh Allen is like Josh Allen's made
enough plays where it just they didn't have the ball last.
And it felt like at times like where they've gotten
(11:50):
beat by the Chiefs. In this case, you know they
Lamar had the ball last. You know, he said the
AFC Championship game it was about his legs. If his
legs were healthy, would have been a different story work
out then and then last night. There's just moments in
times when he misses throws. You know, he can say
whatever he wants about Rashan Bateman, he thought he was
gonna sit more in the zone coverage that's where the
(12:12):
throw is going, or however you want to dice it up.
There's throws that he leaves out on the field often often,
and that is the one thing about his game that
has to improve if he's gonna be able to get
to a super Bowl, win a super Bowl and change
(12:32):
the narrative like that, that's just the truth. What's that like,
Flowers min I mean, like, like that's a throw that
when you're going against the best. In Patrick Mahomes of
Kansas City, he hits ten times out of ten.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He hits that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And that's where if you're if you're in the AFC,
if you're if you want to win a Super Bowl
right now in the NFL, you can't miss that throw.
You can't miss making that play. And that's and that's
just that's the margin of air, the margin of difference.
And that's why I said, when you draw a line,
there's Patrick Mahomes and there's everyone else right now in the.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
NFL that has how this league is operating.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
So you bring up the Lamar Jackson stuff, and you
tell me if I'm overreacting to this, but this seems
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Problematic to me.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
He spoke with the Washington Post, this is before last
night's game, and he said the following about the AFC
title game. This again from Lamar Jackson, quote, how I'm
feeling right now. I wish I was feeling like this
body wise in the AFC title game, we would have
won that game. I would have been able to move
around for my guys. With me just turning and can't move.
I know, if my legs were good, we would have
(13:37):
won that game. We wouldn't have even had to throw
the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
F throwing the ball.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Well, like, if that's why the decision was made to
lose all this weight to become faster and all that, Like,
if he still isn't focusing on throwing the ball, aren't
we just coming back to the same issue to your point, Brady,
that we've had with Lamar Jackson this entire time. You
don't question his scrambling ability or his mobility. It's those
throws and the ability to throw the ball and make
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those throws in critical moments. And if even he is
recognizing following that game, in that AFC title game, yeah, yeah,
but all that's nice, But I need to get back
to moving around and running the ball, f throwing the ball.
If that's still the priority, maybe this is just the
best that it's going to be, and this is just
who he is, And.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Then there's nothing wrong with that, right because I think
there's a degree of he's phenomenal and that's why he's
won two MVPs because of.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
His ability to throw with his ability to run.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
However, this is still a league that protects quarterbacks from
the pocket. It's still ultimately one from the pocket, and
you have to be able to utilize your ability to
scramble escape run when called upon, but you can't rely
on it to the point where it it changes. How
(14:55):
if you ask Steve Spagnola what he probably wants him
to do. Yeah, they want to bottle up Lamar Jackson
and not let him outside the pocket. But he's also
cutting the field in half. I mean, if we're being
honest with ourselves, Lamar's ability to throw is in the
same as Patrick Mahomes, where even when he gets outside
the pocket, the entire play excuse me, the entire field
is still in play. We don't see Lamar Jackson make,
(15:19):
you know, scrambling to his right, make a cross body
throw back to his left.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's that's not his game. He's gonna take off and runner.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He's gonna find something down the middle to the right
hand side the way in which he's going, and that's
you know, Patrick mahomes superman ability. But it speaks to
a greater point of it's more difficult to stop Patrick
Mahomes because no matter where he is, the entire field
is still in play, as opposed to for Lamar Jackson,
if you do get him to scramble outside the pocket,
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he's looking to run, which is tough to stop. But
he's also gonna be limited in what he's doing throwing
the football down in that spot. And that was in
essence kind of what you saw last night, where he's
throwing a football to say Flowers, He's wide open the
back of the end zone, and you know, whether it's
a miscommunication, that stuff happens, and and and in real time.
It's hard to make it all work. But I'm just
(16:08):
stating the point that if you want to win a
Super Bowl, if you want to win the AFC, you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Have to hit that throw.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah, you gotta hit Isaiah Likely the guy who had
his toes were too big in order for the ball
was too big.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
So he spoke afterwards about the final play in which
he was just out of bounds, and also apparently not
all that impressed with what Kansas City had to offer
last night.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That's all I mean, Man, I just got it.
Speaker 10 (16:40):
I gotta get both feet in. I got to I
harp myself to you know, catch everything, make sure everybody
plays in the best possibility. So I'll take responsibility next
time we get my feet down. This is probably the
worst game we're gonna play all year, So this is
the best that they got.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Good luck in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah, so apparently not sold on the Kansas City Chiefs
at this point.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
We're going for a three.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
P They frisky, man, it's a frisky game, and I
like that be competitive. I mean, you lost, but I
can I can understand where I mean, they could have
won that game. They had the opportunity to win that game.
And in fact, even after the miss too to say,
likely had the opportunity to to make that catch. So
(17:25):
I would say this and the true true, I guess
feeling or essence of what competition is. I like that
you got a guys like kind of saying that. You know,
coach might be like, you might want to hold off
on that they did beat us.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know, let's let's get some wins under our belt.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
But the fact that he has a chip on his
shoulder and the fact that his his takeaway from the
game is that this is the worst that we're going
to play, then good living that. Living that because it
did look like a team that wanted to win. That
did not look like a team that will will not
be competitive. They look like they're going to be a
good team this year as well.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Are you noticing a theme though? Baltimore. We could have
won that game. The Niners in the Super Bowl could
have won that game. The Bills in the playoffs could
have won that game. Like there's a lot of kudoves
and they're all involving the Chiefs on the other side.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Well or a or a dope ass quarterback.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
But and it's like Kansas City in close games just
wins those games wins. It mirrors what New England was
all those years to where like New England was always
in close Super Bowls always, but it was like when
it came down to it, you just trusted they were
going to make the player or enough place to win
the game.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
So here we are and again just like with with
New England and then saying with Kansas City, they have
defense too. There are other players, There are other players,
but I just say, when you get into that class
where it's a class all their own, like Patrick Mahomes
or Tom Brady, man, I'm I'm gonna put my money
(19:02):
down on them, man.
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Speaker 3 (20:02):
This is back to Jonas and his uh leather jacket.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, I'm into it.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Which, by the way, I got to figure some things
out and worry because we're back doing the TV show
on Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, but I don't really have anything to wear, so well, I've.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Got one, don't stare at the camera.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
You know what, am I supposed to look down.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Talking? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
You got to have a like a sense of like
spatial awareness.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, listen, yeah, yeah, we're good. All right. Let me
you be looking like a serial killer up there.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
You're staring at the.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Dude had the potential to do that, like when they
released that report on the things you.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Did, trying to trying to captivate the audience. I want
to look through your soul.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't want to tell you, but.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I don't have anything to wear.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
So I got to figure that out in a couple
of days, so pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
No one's gonna see what you're wearing when you look
like a you know, serial killer.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
So what was that?
Speaker 9 (21:06):
Lee?
Speaker 13 (21:07):
What good tell from the promo for the show last
night that you had nothing to wear?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
What was the promo? You had a white T shirt?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Now you seen it? I haven't even seen it. Somebody
else sent me a text as well too. They were
showing promos for it. I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
It was just the challenge in big block letters.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yea, the same same cast, I believe, so Rob Parker
and I'll be there. I you know, I think, uh
I think there's there's I think there's still uh some
stuff to sort through, but you like what you know,
not quite sure yet.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We'll find out later on today. Oh is that for you?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Yeah, trying to figure it out, but you Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's interesting by the way how he handles these contract
negotiations versus No.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, no, it's not that.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
It's the uh, it's you know, the lineup and how
the show is going to be presented. And look, you
know we're trying to figure that out.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And that's something that you are, yeah, making sure you dictate.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
I just don't have the answers for you. Yeah, I
don't have those answers. So as soon as I do,
I'll let you guys know. But maybe we'll just find
out on Sunday we get interesting off and running here
for the football.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Good luck to you, man, appreciated.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You guys are both TV stars and you know, radio stars.
That's awesome, man, I'm proud of you guys.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I mean it's funny because we don't have our own
tailgate being thrown for us. You know, don't do that.
That'll be Why is that ten dollars we don't.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Being thrown for you?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Like I throw it I do a tailgate, Yeah, I
don't like nobody's throwing it for me.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Like I'll get up, I'll.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Go over there and I'll watch everybody set up what
we're doing. I'm not going to do anything. I was
going to sit there and say I'm gonna set it up,
but I'd be lying if I say so.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Tailgate with a legend stay college. You know Brady and
I have they throw a tamgay for us from playing
cornhole by ourselves.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Bro, that's Brady Quinn.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Now we can say that about you, damn, but that
is Brady Quinn. There's like nostalgia connected to his college
pitcher man, like you feel something when you see it, Like, man,
that's Brady QUI.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
Can we talk about a better topic like some c
I think they say see they say serial the Packers,
Serial Packers Eagles Game two of the NFL season later
on tonight, and we feel about it.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Can we just discuss this. I don't like the fact
that it's on a Friday at this time of the year.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Not a fan.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't know why. It just it doesn't feel fitting.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It feels like the NFL is kind of like encroaching
on what is high school football. What is college football?
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Like?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Just keep it on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And the other thing is to kick off the season
in an international city. Not a fan of that either, Like,
you're kind of stealing something to me Eagles home game. Yeah,
I believe so it's I mean, Philly is one of
the best fan bases in the NFL and you're stealing
one of their home games away from them. I just
(24:11):
I don't like anything about this, and that's not even
including the security concerns.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
I think that it's here to stay. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well I thinkay, but like why week one? Why to
kick off the season.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So when Goodell comes out yesterday and he's talking with
on the Pat mcvee show starring AJ Hawk, and he says, yeah,
we're doing five international games. We've never done more than that.
We plan to move to seven next year. I think
this Friday night to start off the year is going
to be one of the international spots every year.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think that's the way they're going to do this.
I just hope go no, they just they've stolen it
from the fans. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It ticks me off because the excitement around a home opener,
and look, I know you can still in Week two
and all that. But at that point, Tom, you've already
seen your team play, so it just it hits a
little different tow I have a home opener like that,
like what we witnessed last night in Kansas City. Granted,
defending Super Bowl champs, but the hype around it, it
feels like that for every team, Like every team when
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you've got that home opener, and now we're doing it
down in Brazil, Dude, save that crap for like week
five or six seven.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Once again in the season.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I mean, if you had to go international, would you,
guys rather go to start off the year in the
middle of the year, middle bro.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like, let us let us rather do it as a
preseason game.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I would not want to do.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah games, as as traveling that way, I wouldn't want
to do any of them.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's a great call of our pre season. Did they
used to do something? Was it something like that back
when you were playing?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yes, you got you guys went to Japan?
Speaker 9 (25:47):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, where'd you go? O?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Sokka oh Osaka, Japan. That's how it was said to me.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Which makes sense. By the way, It's like training camp.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's a galvanizing experience going International introducing the game. You
know you're not cheating the home fans, right and all
that's that's around that, and you're probably actually getting more
money out of it than what these owners are making
for a preseason game.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
How sweet are those Eagles? Unis they're rocking though the
all black?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Because Jonas, did I see this right?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Is this all because of the stadium they're playing in
has a rival that wears green, so they don't allow
green in the stadium?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah, but I heard that that's not that was kind
of overblown. This feels like it's an opportunity for them
to throw out some new color jersey company.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
But the justification, what knew?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
What new like jersey combinations, a new color combinations of
new jersey.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Hey you got what you said that jug was funny?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Bruh, Well, color combinations.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
You say that about people too, Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Say it new color combinations of people do it jerseys?
Like listen, man, there's enough color combinations on the shirt.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You heard it. It's funny because you heard it. I
heard it too. Hey a a Lee, make sure you
lead that into the podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Also combination. Also, I think I think you guys are
bearing the lead here.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
It's the Packers and it's a Friday night game, lead
to lap is going to get tranquil.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I was drunk tonight.
Speaker 13 (27:30):
Oh it's starting early.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah. How's your week then?
Speaker 7 (27:33):
By the way, Yeah, I've had a really great week.
Been as wild as I know it hasn't been wild.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I think I've been.
Speaker 13 (27:40):
I think I've been gearing up for this game tonight.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Because he's got no work the following day, so he's
just gonna get blistered.
Speaker 13 (27:47):
It's gonna hurt.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It's gonna hurt through Sunday, Lee, Are you gonna be
able to make it through the old game?
Speaker 7 (27:52):
I'll make it through the game, but it might hurt
come I don't think Saturday exist.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
I am going to get a little rest after this show,
and then I am going to be on the same time.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm going in.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It's LeVar Allen's for Real and I'm introducing my lagger
this weekend to.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, it'll be fun, man, I'm telling you, Yeah, I
didn't know that LeVar lager. You didn't know that. It's
pretty good too.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
When we get some uh, I get you, I get
I get you some sample.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It's really good though.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
What's what's the name of it?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
LeVar, leap leap lagger.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Nice, it's not called uh eleven or anything like that.
Like you know there there's already an eleven. There's already
an eleven beer out there somewhere.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Jonas, right, yeah, yeah, Matt McGloin, that's correct, the guy
who started Stick City, that's.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Correct, right with me?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I mean, no offense to.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Matt McGloin of you know he was your time, wasn't he. No,
you're older than him.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, But in all seriousness, like you see eleven, you
think Levarr, you think of the other grade elevens that
played defense.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I wouldn't even give out that number on offense if
I was James Franklin.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I agree, Uh so the leap logger.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I mean, I think I want to try it more
out in state college sentity.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
I like that because that happened against Illinois, and so
you're going to be playing Illinois in a couple of
weeks going for that.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
That's right. The old time out, Well, it is sweet.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Wait till you drink it, man, I got I got
nice off of them, and they're really good, really good.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
I'm telling you four point three ABV.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, you feel good about it.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Yeah, I mean, listen, give it a give it a whirl.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, some cases, man, But that's what I'm on, you know,
I'm just on some different stuff man. Like I'm a
renaissance guy man, trying to keep up with y'all because
I'm not no big TV star, So I got to
try to keep up the best way that I can
while I'm watching these games on television and watching you
guys do what you do on I watch you every
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Sunday when you do it. I watched Q every Saturday
when he does it. I watched him this Saturday. I
even hit you up, didn't I hit you out? I
don't even think you were off the stage before I
hit you up. You hit him with the stick City.
I was pumped up. I was already watching anyway, pumped
up because my dog is on there doing and doing
his thing. But man, he hit him with the stick City.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I was like, and he knew what was going on,
he knew what time it was.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
There were some other haters on the stage, so all right,
because I got love for them too, But dang, they
was hating a moment, and you set them straight.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I was right there with you, trying. I was right
there with you, dog. I was supporting you right there.
We're gonna be in ann arbor.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Any weather concerns for tomorrow, you guys are gonna get
any hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
They might here supposed to rain in an arbor today,
but it's supposed to be clear Saturday.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
But it's gonna be awesome, man. It's It's obviously a
huge matchup.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's the biggest matchup of the college football weekend, and
I would just quickly say it's a twofold deal for
as far as the victor for Sharon Moore, I think
it'll define whether or not he can maintain and carry
Ford Jim Harbaugh's program and then put his own stamp
onto it, because this would be that first, in my opinion,
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had taken over full time. Obviously a big win for him,
you know, you know, staple win or defining win for Sark.
I think it's even bigger in the sense of last
year now looking at Texas as not a fluke but
just kind of like a one hit wonder, you know,
being able to win the big twelve, get to the playoff.
This will be one of those moments where you have
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to go on the road to beat the defending champs
in their house, and you're gonna have to play their
style of football because that's what they're gonna make you do.
They are gonna make you find a way of controlling
the line of scrimmage and whether or not they can
do that, and they can showcase that they are one
of the best teams in college football, and really the
battle between the Big Ten and the SEC and Texas
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defining itself in its first year the SEC is one
of the top teams.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
This will go a long way and making that argument
for them.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So I think it's huge in defining the path for
both these teams moving forward this season, but also for
both head coaches and I think how they're viewed in
Shore own more short tenure, but also Steve Sarkisan and
his tenure at.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Texas right now. It's gonna be a fun one. That's
an exciting one. You're right, man, I'm excited to see
how that all goes down.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
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Speaker 6 (32:45):
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Speaker 2 (33:14):
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Speaker 6 (33:26):
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Speaker 4 (33:38):
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Speaker 3 (33:39):
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Speaker 7 (33:39):
We're kicking it off baby Packers at Eagles in Brazil.
Speaker 13 (33:44):
Eagles are two and a half point favorites as a
home team.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I guess they're going to cover.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm gonna take the Packers plus two.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I'll take Philly.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Oh, how about Caleb Williams debut hosting the Titans.
Speaker 13 (34:03):
Titans at Bears. Bears three and a half point.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Favorites, Titans at laying the points in Chicago, laying.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
The points, wish.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I'll take the Titans plus three and a half.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I'm taking the Titans plus three and a half.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Oh yeah, all right, only road favorite of the week.
Vikings are a point and a half favorites. At New
York at the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Give the Giants.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'll take the points point I'm taking the Giants to
win outright.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Oh, money line for LeVar, all right, for get the spread.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
I'll take the Vikings here. Sam Darnold returns to MetLife.
I'll take give me a little Minnesota love here on Sunday,
Minnesota Love.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
We got Tom Brady's broadcast debut. Cowboys at Browns, Browns
two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, you already heard me. Browns are gonna win this game.
I'm gonna ahead lay the points.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I'll tell money line Dallas, Hey, money line in it?
Money line again for LaVar.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'll take Dallas.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Finally, guys, Sunday Night football Rams at lines lines.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
Four and a half point ferrets at home.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
The Rams.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Does seem like a big number, right, getting points revenge game,
I'll take La.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I'll take Detroit minus the points.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm taking Detroit.
Speaker 13 (35:30):
First picks against the spread of the year.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
I mean, like Brady literally waited for me and just
went the opposite, even though he doesn't probably believe that.
He just knows it's a say.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
For bet to go.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You realize that I picked before you in about three
or four of us. Yeah, but do you not have
actually picked opposite?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Do you already?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
But you already knew that he needed to pick what
he picked because it would be opposite from you. There
you go, just like your brother is not your brother
in law. Brother in law is not your brother.
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
This you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
LeVar you annimal, what mean? Yeah? Yeah, VR, we don't
need no Cherry Red popin lock.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
That's right? This song my song?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah it is?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Oh we thought it was yours? This is yours? Brady, No,
all right?
Speaker 5 (00:59):
I mean I like it, like if I swear I
can't wait, Like I like this cute.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
They're like if you gave me a list of one
hundred songs.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Especially look, especially after getting that breaking news earlier in
the show.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
I mean, I get it. I can't wait. I mean
you can get it.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Wow, the drive for five is.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Real, Baby, I can't wait.
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Dang.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Who is that?
Speaker 6 (01:28):
By the way, who sings that?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
New Shoots?
Speaker 6 (01:32):
Oh? I mean is that right, Lee, Yeah, new new shoots.
Speaker 7 (01:37):
New shoots, or new shoes, new shoes, new shoes, Yeah,
new shoes, new shoes, new shoes.
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I don't even know what I'm talking about with the
z new shoes. I mean the Silvar song should be
asking him.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
You know that's a nice song. I do know that song.
That's that definitely was growing up on that song. I
remember days listening to it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
It's more the b the very beginning that's hot definitely, which,
by the way, that's more like Jonas's wheelhouse.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
He always play back to that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Not true.
Speaker 6 (02:04):
I'm more of a depeche Mode. Give me depeche Mode, Lauri.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Couldn't you imagine Jonas and his black leather jacket that
has had pretty much since the nineteen eighties in a
irack t top camaro with one of those giant eagles
on the hood, be popping, popping, Just play the beginning
of the songet he could let me just the.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Beginning be heard again, let me hear it again? Could
you hear at the beginning with that?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Heard again?
Speaker 8 (02:32):
Yeah, let's hear some new shoes news. But you can
do it, you can do it, old I give us
so we were efforting here. All right, we've got some
new shoes coming your way here, uh from.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
The some Burt Reynolds action. Can you imagine this?
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Jonas pulls up, Yeah, pops, the top's already popped off.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Yeah, he just opens the door, opens the he's got
black jeans with with that black leather jacket with.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Holes in it.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Yeah, and it just it just sits on the hood,
you know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He just sits there, drops his chin down with toothpick
in his mouth.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Roll the window. You already already out of the car, all.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Right, in the car, and he takes let's take it.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
We're talking about you, Bud, all right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I was gonna give the uh the commentary.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
He takes his his sunglasses off, and then Brady Quinn
comes walking around the back of the car and stands
next to him with his leather jacket on and his sunglasses,
and then he takes his glasses off, and then he
drops his chin and he looks down as well, and
then the photo shoot starts.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Yeah, Bawn, and then we just say, anybody with the
last name Lopez come with us, and they just roll
on out. That works, That's how it works.
Speaker 5 (03:51):
But but that car that you're in is only a
two seater. I believe that's the point.
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Speaker 6 (04:13):
Tire rack dot Com The way tire by should be.
By the way, Lee, I really will send over my
song request today. I meet it this time, not messing around,
can't wait, not far around.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
The well done, no pun intended.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
Alright, all right, So the NFL season is underway. We
had game one last night. Bar We had the technical
difficulties to start off the show. But you thought your
takeaway after you and I picked the Kansas City Chiefs
minus three, never in doubt, never in doubt, No.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
It wasn't.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I was pretty I was pretty confident that they would
cover that. You know what my takeaway from the game,
Fellas was this Kansas City Chiefs team has now established
an inner culture that is just it's very business like.
You know, say what you want to say about Kelsey
and what he's got going on. You know, he's got
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a lot of things outside of football going on. Say
what you want to say. About all of the things
that Patrick Mahomes has with all of the you know,
commercial shoots and stuff like that. He's very a public
figure as well. There doesn't seem to be any distractions
to their preparation and how they approach what their business is.
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I'll say that that's what I took away. Another takeaway
was there's now an understanding and an expectation that if
you're considered to be that next guy up, then be
that next guy up.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
It's like, if you're going to replace.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
A linebacker in Pittsburgh, then you had better come with
the same exactly. It's so crazy that they're all the
same people, Like from Greg Lloyd to James Harrison, you know,
to you you name, they're all the same people. And
I think that that's what's developing in Kansas City. The
receiver's position. It's like they may look different, but it's
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like the same person. They're gonna bring an element to
the table that is explosive, that is exciting, and you
like to see it. And that's what I think we
saw out of the rookie last evening. I mean so
much so, where you know, you got Tarik Hill chiming
in on social media about how good he looked and
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how fast he looked out there. I just think this
Kansas City Chiefs team knows how to go about their business.
It's very workmen like and it's interesting because it's not
as maybe it doesn't seem like it would be as
buttoned up as when we saw the dominant run by
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the Patriots, even though you had some really interesting personalities
on that team, with like guys like Tye law interesting personality,
Lawyer Malloy, interesting personality.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Uh, Kevin Folk, Uh is it Kevin? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
I believe it's Kevin Kevin Folk, the running back of
interesting personality like uh, big McGinnis, Willie mcginni's big personality.
But you didn't see them like as they're nowhere near
even with Brady.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
They weren't what big Willie.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
And strong and gonna get friction on byby got Willie.
So anyway, none of those guys on that Patriots team
were as media public or or not media public, but
like commercially public, like who was really commercially out there
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from that Patriots team. And yet you have Kelsey and
and you have Mahomes that are like literally they're the
faces of the NFL in terms of marketing and branding
and commercials and all these different brands, and it has
had no impact on their ability to achieve. I think
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give Andy Reid a ton of credit for being able
to be the facilitator as the head coach to have
this team be able to stay as focused as they
do with all of the noise going around them. Give Spagnola.
I don't think Spags gets the credit that he's deserving
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of for the job that he does as a defensive coordinator.
If you take Spags away, this team isn't the team
that it is.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Spags is even calling timeouts now.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
You know, Bro, the dude is the man. Bro, And
you want to talk about somebody who comes out with
schemes and listen, the Baltimore offense. I mean, Lamar Jackson
had a night. He had a hell of a night.
He had a career night. But some way, somehow, this
dude figures out how to offset what these dudes do.
(09:08):
And listen, they're a tot type away from me being
able to say or having to say that wasn't the
case because they pulled it out. But that game was
was a well played game. The defense did what they
needed to do, Like regardless of what people may say
or have opinion wise, I just think that it's a
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well rounded team and it looks like they have the
potential to be one hundred percent, not a little percent.
They have a potential to be one hundred percent better
than what they have been in the past. And that
was my takeaway. I think they're a dangerous team. I
think they're a scary team to look at this year.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Yeah, I think even when you consider there was no
Hollywood Brown. You know, we can talk about Xavier Worthy
as a rookie first game, made some big plays and
touches when called upon.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
But what stood out to me was they still have
another element of their offense that was not even introduced.
So that's the scary thing.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
And I think, to your point, LeVar, like the consistency
of the Kansas City Chiefs with all the other things
that are happening around.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Them, it is remarkable. It truly is remarkable, and it's
a credit.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
To all involve the front office, the coaching staff, the players,
et cetera. But I thought last night's game was more
about Baltimore, and it was more about Baltimore for this
reason because you know, look, the outcome of that game.
I'm not gonna say it doesn't matter. It matters for
you know, those of you are betting, and it could matter.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
For the number one overall seed in the AFC.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Remember, Baltimore had the best record last season and that's
why they hosted Kansas City and the AFC Championship game.
So it's it could be significant in that respect. But
I think we both know that both these teams are
playoff teams. At least in my opinion, Baltimore is. They're
good to Baltimore. But this was a line in the
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sand kind of moment for me in watching Patrick Mahomes
who kind of like effortlessly just finds ways of completing
balls and doesn't leave the pocket until he has to
where when he has to make a play, he makes
a play. And when you compare that to Lamar Jackson
and you look at the fact that he is a
two time MVP, it's it's a foregone conclusion. They're gonna
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win enough games to get into the playoffs. But then
it becomes about what can you do once you get
in the playoffs. And and this is like the same
conversation that I think people have about Josh Allen, the
only difference is that it feels like in the moments
with Buffalo and Josh Allen is like Josh Allen's made
enough plays where it just they didn't have the ball last.
And it felt like at times like where they've gotten
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beat by the Chiefs. In this case, you know they
Lamar had the ball last. You know, he said the
AFC Championship game it was about his legs. If his
legs were healthy, would have been a different story work
out then and then last night. There's just moments in
times when he misses throws. You know, he can say
whatever he wants about Rashan Bateman, he thought he was
gonna sit more in the zone coverage that's where the
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throw is going, or however you want to dice it up.
There's throws that he leaves out on the field often often,
and that is the one thing about his game that
has to improve if he's gonna be able to get
to a super Bowl, win a super Bowl and change
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the narrative like that, that's just the truth. What's that like,
Flowers min I mean, like, like that's a throw that
when you're going against the best. In Patrick Mahomes of
Kansas City, he hits ten times out of ten.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
He hits that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
And that's where if you're if you're in the AFC,
if you're if you want to win a Super Bowl
right now in the NFL, you can't miss that throw.
You can't miss making that play. And that's and that's
just that's the margin of air, the margin of difference.
And that's why I said, when you draw a line,
there's Patrick Mahomes and there's everyone else right now in the.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
NFL that has how this league is operating.
Speaker 6 (13:10):
So you bring up the Lamar Jackson stuff, and you
tell me if I'm overreacting to this, but this seems
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Problematic to me.
Speaker 6 (13:17):
He spoke with the Washington Post, this is before last
night's game, and he said the following about the AFC
title game. This again from Lamar Jackson, quote, how I'm
feeling right now. I wish I was feeling like this
body wise in the AFC title game, we would have
won that game. I would have been able to move
around for my guys. With me just turning and can't move.
I know, if my legs were good, we would have
(13:37):
won that game. We wouldn't have even had to throw
the ball.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
F throwing the ball.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Well, like, if that's why the decision was made to
lose all this weight to become faster and all that, Like,
if he still isn't focusing on throwing the ball, aren't
we just coming back to the same issue to your point, Brady,
that we've had with Lamar Jackson this entire time. You
don't question his scrambling ability or his mobility. It's those
throws and the ability to throw the ball and make
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those throws in critical moments. And if even he is
recognizing following that game, in that AFC title game, yeah, yeah,
but all that's nice, But I need to get back
to moving around and running the ball, f throwing the ball.
If that's still the priority, maybe this is just the
best that it's going to be, and this is just
who he is, And.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Then there's nothing wrong with that, right because I think
there's a degree of he's phenomenal and that's why he's
won two MVPs because of.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
His ability to throw with his ability to run.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
However, this is still a league that protects quarterbacks from
the pocket. It's still ultimately one from the pocket, and
you have to be able to utilize your ability to
scramble escape run when called upon, but you can't rely
on it to the point where it it changes. How
(14:55):
if you ask Steve Spagnola what he probably wants him
to do. Yeah, they want to bottle up Lamar Jackson
and not let him outside the pocket. But he's also
cutting the field in half. I mean, if we're being
honest with ourselves, Lamar's ability to throw is in the
same as Patrick Mahomes, where even when he gets outside
the pocket, the entire play excuse me, the entire field
is still in play. We don't see Lamar Jackson make,
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you know, scrambling to his right, make a cross body
throw back to his left.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
That's that's not his game. He's gonna take off and runner.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
He's gonna find something down the middle to the right
hand side the way in which he's going, and that's
you know, Patrick mahomes superman ability. But it speaks to
a greater point of it's more difficult to stop Patrick
Mahomes because no matter where he is, the entire field
is still in play, as opposed to for Lamar Jackson,
if you do get him to scramble outside the pocket,
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he's looking to run, which is tough to stop. But
he's also gonna be limited in what he's doing throwing
the football down in that spot. And that was in
essence kind of what you saw last night, where he's
throwing a football to say Flowers, He's wide open the
back of the end zone, and you know, whether it's
a miscommunication, that stuff happens, and and and in real time.
It's hard to make it all work. But I'm just
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stating the point that if you want to win a
Super Bowl, if you want to win the AFC, you.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Have to hit that throw.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
Yeah, you gotta hit Isaiah Likely the guy who had
his toes were too big in order for the ball
was too big.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 6 (16:28):
So he spoke afterwards about the final play in which
he was just out of bounds, and also apparently not
all that impressed with what Kansas City had to offer
last night.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
That's all I mean, Man, I just got it.
Speaker 10 (16:40):
I gotta get both feet in. I got to I
harp myself to you know, catch everything, make sure everybody
plays in the best possibility. So I'll take responsibility next
time we get my feet down. This is probably the
worst game we're gonna play all year, So this is
the best that they got.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Good luck in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (16:57):
Yeah, so apparently not sold on the Kansas City Chiefs
at this point.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
We're going for a three.
Speaker 5 (17:02):
P They frisky, man, it's a frisky game, and I
like that be competitive. I mean, you lost, but I
can I can understand where I mean, they could have
won that game. They had the opportunity to win that game.
And in fact, even after the miss too to say,
likely had the opportunity to to make that catch. So
(17:25):
I would say this and the true true, I guess
feeling or essence of what competition is. I like that
you got a guys like kind of saying that. You know,
coach might be like, you might want to hold off
on that they did beat us.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
You know, let's let's get some wins under our belt.
Speaker 5 (17:47):
But the fact that he has a chip on his
shoulder and the fact that his his takeaway from the
game is that this is the worst that we're going
to play, then good living that. Living that because it
did look like a team that wanted to win. That
did not look like a team that will will not
be competitive. They look like they're going to be a
good team this year as well.
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Are you noticing a theme though? Baltimore. We could have
won that game. The Niners in the Super Bowl could
have won that game. The Bills in the playoffs could
have won that game. Like there's a lot of kudoves
and they're all involving the Chiefs on the other side.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Well or a or a dope ass quarterback.
Speaker 6 (18:25):
But and it's like Kansas City in close games just
wins those games wins. It mirrors what New England was
all those years to where like New England was always
in close Super Bowls always, but it was like when
it came down to it, you just trusted they were
going to make the player or enough place to win
the game.
Speaker 5 (18:42):
So here we are and again just like with with
New England and then saying with Kansas City, they have
defense too. There are other players, There are other players,
but I just say, when you get into that class
where it's a class all their own, like Patrick Mahomes
or Tom Brady, man, I'm I'm gonna put my money
(19:02):
down on them, man.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
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Speaker 3 (20:02):
This is back to Jonas and his uh leather jacket.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yeah, I'm into it.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
Which, by the way, I got to figure some things
out and worry because we're back doing the TV show
on Sunday night.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah that's exciting.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, but I don't really have anything to wear, so well, I've.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Got one, don't stare at the camera.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
You know what, am I supposed to look down.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Talking? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (20:33):
You got to have a like a sense of like
spatial awareness.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, listen, yeah, yeah, we're good. All right. Let me
you be looking like a serial killer up there.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
You're staring at the.
Speaker 5 (20:45):
Dude had the potential to do that, like when they
released that report on the things you.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
Did, trying to trying to captivate the audience. I want
to look through your soul.
Speaker 9 (20:54):
Man.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
I don't want to tell you, but.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
I don't have anything to wear.
Speaker 6 (20:58):
So I got to figure that out in a couple
of days, so pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
No one's gonna see what you're wearing when you look
like a you know, serial killer.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
So what was that?
Speaker 9 (21:06):
Lee?
Speaker 13 (21:07):
What good tell from the promo for the show last
night that you had nothing to wear?
Speaker 6 (21:11):
Thank you?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
What was the promo? You had a white T shirt?
Speaker 6 (21:15):
Now you seen it? I haven't even seen it. Somebody
else sent me a text as well too. They were
showing promos for it. I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 13 (21:23):
It was just the challenge in big block letters.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yea, the same same cast, I believe, so Rob Parker
and I'll be there. I you know, I think, uh
I think there's there's I think there's still uh some
stuff to sort through, but you like what you know,
not quite sure yet.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
We'll find out later on today. Oh is that for you?
Speaker 6 (21:47):
Yeah, trying to figure it out, but you Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's interesting by the way how he handles these contract
negotiations versus No.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
No, no, it's not that.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
It's the uh, it's you know, the lineup and how
the show is going to be presented. And look, you
know we're trying to figure that out.
Speaker 5 (22:06):
And that's something that you are, yeah, making sure you dictate.
Speaker 6 (22:11):
I just don't have the answers for you. Yeah, I
don't have those answers. So as soon as I do,
I'll let you guys know. But maybe we'll just find
out on Sunday we get interesting off and running here
for the football.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Good luck to you, man, appreciated.
Speaker 5 (22:25):
You guys are both TV stars and you know, radio stars.
That's awesome, man, I'm proud of you guys.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
I mean it's funny because we don't have our own
tailgate being thrown for us. You know, don't do that.
That'll be Why is that ten dollars we don't.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Being thrown for you?
Speaker 5 (22:41):
Like I throw it I do a tailgate, Yeah, I
don't like nobody's throwing it for me.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
Like I'll get up, I'll.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Go over there and I'll watch everybody set up what
we're doing. I'm not going to do anything. I was
going to sit there and say I'm gonna set it up,
but I'd be lying if I say so.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
Tailgate with a legend stay college. You know Brady and
I have they throw a tamgay for us from playing
cornhole by ourselves.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Bro, that's Brady Quinn.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Now we can say that about you, damn, but that
is Brady Quinn. There's like nostalgia connected to his college
pitcher man, like you feel something when you see it, Like, man,
that's Brady QUI.
Speaker 14 (23:17):
Can we talk about a better topic like some c
I think they say see they say serial the Packers,
Serial Packers Eagles Game two of the NFL season later
on tonight, and we feel about it.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Can we just discuss this. I don't like the fact
that it's on a Friday at this time of the year.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Not a fan.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
I don't know why. It just it doesn't feel fitting.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
It feels like the NFL is kind of like encroaching
on what is high school football. What is college football?
Speaker 6 (23:48):
Like?
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Just keep it on a Sunday.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And the other thing is to kick off the season
in an international city. Not a fan of that either, Like,
you're kind of stealing something to me Eagles home game. Yeah,
I believe so it's I mean, Philly is one of
the best fan bases in the NFL and you're stealing
one of their home games away from them. I just
(24:11):
I don't like anything about this, and that's not even
including the security concerns.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
I think that it's here to stay. That's the problem.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Well I thinkay, but like why week one? Why to
kick off the season.
Speaker 6 (24:25):
So when Goodell comes out yesterday and he's talking with
on the Pat mcvee show starring AJ Hawk, and he says, yeah,
we're doing five international games. We've never done more than that.
We plan to move to seven next year. I think
this Friday night to start off the year is going
to be one of the international spots every year.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think that's the way they're going to do this.
I just hope go no, they just they've stolen it
from the fans. Man.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
It ticks me off because the excitement around a home opener,
and look, I know you can still in Week two
and all that. But at that point, Tom, you've already
seen your team play, so it just it hits a
little different tow I have a home opener like that,
like what we witnessed last night in Kansas City. Granted,
defending Super Bowl champs, but the hype around it, it
feels like that for every team, Like every team when
(25:10):
you've got that home opener, and now we're doing it
down in Brazil, Dude, save that crap for like week
five or six seven.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Once again in the season.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I mean, if you had to go international, would you,
guys rather go to start off the year in the
middle of the year, middle bro.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
Like, let us let us rather do it as a
preseason game.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
I would not want to do.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
Yeah games, as as traveling that way, I wouldn't want
to do any of them.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
That's a great call of our pre season. Did they
used to do something? Was it something like that back
when you were playing?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Yes, you got you guys went to Japan?
Speaker 9 (25:47):
Right?
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, where'd you go? O?
Speaker 5 (25:49):
Sokka oh Osaka, Japan. That's how it was said to me.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Which makes sense. By the way, It's like training camp.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's a galvanizing experience going International introducing the game. You
know you're not cheating the home fans, right and all
that's that's around that, and you're probably actually getting more
money out of it than what these owners are making
for a preseason game.
Speaker 6 (26:17):
How sweet are those Eagles? Unis they're rocking though the
all black?
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Because Jonas, did I see this right?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Is this all because of the stadium they're playing in
has a rival that wears green, so they don't allow
green in the stadium?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Yeah, but I heard that that's not that was kind
of overblown. This feels like it's an opportunity for them
to throw out some new color jersey company.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
But the justification, what knew?
Speaker 6 (26:44):
What new like jersey combinations, a new color combinations of
new jersey.
Speaker 4 (26:50):
Hey you got what you said that jug was funny?
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Bruh, Well, color combinations.
Speaker 4 (26:55):
You say that about people too, Go ahead.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Say it new color combinations of people do it jerseys?
Like listen, man, there's enough color combinations on the shirt.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You heard it. It's funny because you heard it. I
heard it too. Hey a a Lee, make sure you
lead that into the podcast.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Also combination. Also, I think I think you guys are
bearing the lead here.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
It's the Packers and it's a Friday night game, lead
to lap is going to get tranquil.
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I was drunk tonight.
Speaker 13 (27:30):
Oh it's starting early.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Yeah. How's your week then?
Speaker 7 (27:33):
By the way, Yeah, I've had a really great week.
Been as wild as I know it hasn't been wild.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I think I've been.
Speaker 13 (27:40):
I think I've been gearing up for this game tonight.
Speaker 6 (27:42):
Because he's got no work the following day, so he's
just gonna get blistered.
Speaker 13 (27:47):
It's gonna hurt.
Speaker 6 (27:47):
It's gonna hurt through Sunday, Lee, Are you gonna be
able to make it through the old game?
Speaker 7 (27:52):
I'll make it through the game, but it might hurt
come I don't think Saturday exist.
Speaker 5 (27:58):
I am going to get a little rest after this show,
and then I am going to be on the same time.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
I'm going in.
Speaker 5 (28:08):
It's LeVar Allen's for Real and I'm introducing my lagger
this weekend to.
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Yeah, it'll be fun, man, I'm telling you, Yeah, I
didn't know that LeVar lager. You didn't know that. It's
pretty good too.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
When we get some uh, I get you, I get
I get you some sample.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
It's really good though.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
What's what's the name of it?
Speaker 4 (28:32):
LeVar, leap leap lagger.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Nice, it's not called uh eleven or anything like that.
Like you know there there's already an eleven. There's already
an eleven beer out there somewhere.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
Jonas, right, yeah, yeah, Matt McGloin, that's correct, the guy
who started Stick City, that's.
Speaker 4 (28:56):
Correct, right with me?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
I mean, no offense to.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Matt McGloin of you know he was your time, wasn't he. No,
you're older than him.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Yeah, But in all seriousness, like you see eleven, you
think Levarr, you think of the other grade elevens that
played defense.
Speaker 4 (29:13):
I just I don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I wouldn't even give out that number on offense if
I was James Franklin.
Speaker 4 (29:19):
I agree, Uh so the leap logger.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I mean, I think I want to try it more
out in state college sentity.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
I like that because that happened against Illinois, and so
you're going to be playing Illinois in a couple of
weeks going for that.
Speaker 4 (29:36):
That's right. The old time out, Well, it is sweet.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Wait till you drink it, man, I got I got
nice off of them, and they're really good, really good.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
I'm telling you four point three ABV.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, you feel good about it.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Yeah, I mean, listen, give it a give it a whirl.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
Yeah, some cases, man, But that's what I'm on, you know,
I'm just on some different stuff man. Like I'm a
renaissance guy man, trying to keep up with y'all because
I'm not no big TV star, So I got to
try to keep up the best way that I can
while I'm watching these games on television and watching you
guys do what you do on I watch you every
(30:14):
Sunday when you do it. I watched Q every Saturday
when he does it. I watched him this Saturday. I
even hit you up, didn't I hit you out? I
don't even think you were off the stage before I
hit you up. You hit him with the stick City.
I was pumped up. I was already watching anyway, pumped
up because my dog is on there doing and doing
his thing. But man, he hit him with the stick City.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
I was like, and he knew what was going on,
he knew what time it was.
Speaker 5 (30:36):
There were some other haters on the stage, so all right,
because I got love for them too, But dang, they
was hating a moment, and you set them straight.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
I was right there with you, trying. I was right
there with you, dog. I was supporting you right there.
We're gonna be in ann arbor.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
Any weather concerns for tomorrow, you guys are gonna get
any hurt.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
They might here supposed to rain in an arbor today,
but it's supposed to be clear Saturday.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
But it's gonna be awesome, man. It's It's obviously a
huge matchup.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
It's the biggest matchup of the college football weekend, and
I would just quickly say it's a twofold deal for
as far as the victor for Sharon Moore, I think
it'll define whether or not he can maintain and carry
Ford Jim Harbaugh's program and then put his own stamp
onto it, because this would be that first, in my opinion,
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had taken over full time. Obviously a big win for him,
you know, you know, staple win or defining win for Sark.
I think it's even bigger in the sense of last
year now looking at Texas as not a fluke but
just kind of like a one hit wonder, you know,
being able to win the big twelve, get to the playoff.
This will be one of those moments where you have
(31:43):
to go on the road to beat the defending champs
in their house, and you're gonna have to play their
style of football because that's what they're gonna make you do.
They are gonna make you find a way of controlling
the line of scrimmage and whether or not they can
do that, and they can showcase that they are one
of the best teams in college football, and really the
battle between the Big Ten and the SEC and Texas
(32:08):
defining itself in its first year the SEC is one
of the top teams.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
This will go a long way and making that argument
for them.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
So I think it's huge in defining the path for
both these teams moving forward this season, but also for
both head coaches and I think how they're viewed in
Shore own more short tenure, but also Steve Sarkisan and
his tenure at.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Texas right now. It's gonna be a fun one. That's
an exciting one. You're right, man, I'm excited to see
how that all goes down.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
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Speaker 3 (33:39):
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Speaker 7 (33:39):
We're kicking it off baby Packers at Eagles in Brazil.
Speaker 13 (33:44):
Eagles are two and a half point favorites as a
home team.
Speaker 4 (33:46):
I guess they're going to cover.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I'm gonna take the Packers plus two.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
I'll take Philly.
Speaker 7 (33:59):
Oh, how about Caleb Williams debut hosting the Titans.
Speaker 13 (34:03):
Titans at Bears. Bears three and a half point.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
Favorites, Titans at laying the points in Chicago, laying.
Speaker 4 (34:11):
The points, wish.
Speaker 6 (34:12):
I'll take the Titans plus three and a half.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I'm taking the Titans plus three and a half.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Oh yeah, all right, only road favorite of the week.
Vikings are a point and a half favorites. At New
York at the New York Giants.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Give the Giants.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
I'll take the points point I'm taking the Giants to
win outright.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Oh, money line for LeVar, all right, for get the spread.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
I'll take the Vikings here. Sam Darnold returns to MetLife.
I'll take give me a little Minnesota love here on Sunday,
Minnesota Love.
Speaker 7 (34:49):
We got Tom Brady's broadcast debut. Cowboys at Browns, Browns
two and a half point favorites.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, you already heard me. Browns are gonna win this game.
I'm gonna ahead lay the points.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I'll tell money line Dallas, Hey, money line in it?
Money line again for LaVar.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'll take Dallas.
Speaker 4 (35:08):
All right.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Finally, guys, Sunday Night football Rams at lines lines.
Speaker 13 (35:11):
Four and a half point ferrets at home.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
The Rams.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
Does seem like a big number, right, getting points revenge game,
I'll take La.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I'll take Detroit minus the points.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm taking Detroit.
Speaker 13 (35:30):
First picks against the spread of the year.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
I mean, like Brady literally waited for me and just
went the opposite, even though he doesn't probably believe that.
He just knows it's a say.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
For bet to go.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
You realize that I picked before you in about three
or four of us. Yeah, but do you not have
actually picked opposite?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
Do you already?
Speaker 5 (35:48):
But you already knew that he needed to pick what
he picked because it would be opposite from you. There
you go, just like your brother is not your brother
in law. Brother in law is not your brother.
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