09/11/2024 – Best of 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe

Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, the Steelers are preparing for Justin Fields to start again while Russell Wilson deals with his calf injury. The latest allegations against Deshaun Watson may affect his standing with the Browns and the league. And The Old P, Petros Papadakis helps breakdown all things college football.

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
It's the best of two pros and a couple Joe
with LaVar as Rady Winn and Jonas Knots on four Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
How the hell we feeling here on a Wednesday morning? Fine?
Little yeah, little hump day.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, I mean yeah, LaVar is stacked and yet from today,
but I'm sure I feel very sore.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Guys, Come on, bragg a best do it? Come on.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
I got the eighty, I got the eighty reps on
to twenty five yesterday going to bench.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
But I'm really all at once. No, no, oh, it's
like my goodness. No.

Speaker 5 (00:41):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
The most I did at once was fifteen fifteen on
the third set. Third set, I think the first one
I did ten, the second one I did twelve.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
I went up, Did you do it at the combine?
I did?

Speaker 4 (00:59):
I did not do it at the combat I did
at my pro day, I did twenty and threw it
on the rack. Ooh okay, like literally like one, two, three, four, five,
sixty seven, eight nine to eleven, twelve, thirteen, forteen fifty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
nineteen twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Threw it on the rack like I never slowed down.
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
I didn't want them to know what what you know
where the end was. It could have been the next one,
It could have been the next ten. You know, who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
You weren't on the rack.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
You weren't out to like, you know, beat Jay Cutler's
record from the year before or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Jay Cully from one of the NFL way before j Culer, Yeah,
I know what I'm saying because I've heard sure how.

Speaker 6 (01:33):
He would have known about Jay Cutler the quarterback, Yeah,
when he was there like a decade.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Before, because I've heard stories that like Jay Cutler's mark
was something that somebody tried to beat at the combine once,
you know, because they where they were gassed up by
a certain member of the combine crew. That was like
speaking of Denver, speaking of interesting news. I feel like, uh,
we've been cheated on.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
You guys know that right? Why you're not taking that bait.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
We've been cheated on the NFL. We've been cheating on
by the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Yes we have. I wanted to see it. I am
frustrated by what is taking place. You want to hear
Mike Tomlin stealer nation Less wailed do what Mike Tomlin does.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
The Stiller head coach Mike Tomlin spoke yesterday about the
decision at quarterback, which will be Justin Field's not Russell
Wilson heading to Denver.

Speaker 7 (02:24):
You know, I just visited with him.

Speaker 8 (02:27):
He feels better today than he did over the weekend,
and so what that means I don't know. As we
sit here today, I know that we're going to take
the same approach that we take with a lot of
people in terms of injury. We'll first start with his
participation and his level of participation, his quality of participation.

(02:47):
Over the course of the week, we'll be analyzing whether
he's capable of protecting himself, whether he's capable of being productive.
You know, when we get to those points, that's when
we'll ponder his inclusion or not. And when that happens
will probably be a component of that equation. But as
I said here today, we're preparing as if Justin is

(03:08):
going to be our quarterback. I think that's the appropriate
way to do it. Speculation is a waste of time.
Russell's heard, he's not available to us, and so, as
you guys know, as a general practice, man, I focus
my energy on those that are available in their readiness.
Just saw Justin he just finished a good workout here
today and excited about maybe going through a complete week

(03:30):
with him. In terms of the preparation process.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
I love Mike Tomlin. It's like speculation would be a
waste of time.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
It would be yeah, And so it's going to be JF,
not RW in Denver taking on the Broncos here. And
it's to me, it's kind of wild to think that
if Justin Fields plays well enough, Russell Wilson's not going
to get his opportunity. Like Justin Fields can win this
job with good enough quarter back play, and Russell Wilson

(04:01):
could just be sitting there watching this whole time because
of a calf injury that we kind of dismissed, not entirely,
just talked about as well. Listeners to calf issue, He'll
be back. You know, they're just taking precaution, and here
we are still not an opportunity for him to suit
up yet and maybe not if Justin Fields plays well enough.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
You know, they're being so vague about what the calf
injury is, you wonder if it's a lot more substantial.
Christian McCaffrey various reports. Right, we weren't sure what his
status was for week one, we find out he's not
going to play at all, and then there is a
port I think I saw that he was not going
to play in week two. He's the Achilles tenonitis and

(04:41):
he just doesn't feel like he's back. Now he's a
running back, that's going to impact him more than anyone else.
But if you're a quarterback, that's still a big part
of your game too. And I know we're diagnosing it
or calling it a calf injury, but watching Russell Wilson
warm up before the game, it seemed a lot more
significant than what they're leading on.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
I mean, he really wasn't moving around very well at all.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
I mean at all, even in like a dropback from
taking a shotgun snap. So I think there could be
a little bit of long runway here for Justin Fields
to prove.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
That he could be the guy that he has improved.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
I mean, I think the biggest thing for Justin Fields,
it's almost not even how well he plays, because the
bar has been set so low in Pittsburgh over the
last couple of years with the offense.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
It more has to.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
Do with just whether or not they win, and if
they win, I don't think Pittsburgh Steelers fans are going
to care quite as much. Yes, it'll be frustrating, it'll
be a punch line and someone's joke. But the truth
is is, I think they'll be okay if they're just
winning and they're undefeated and they keep moving forward with
justin Fields. It's only going to come down to switching

(05:53):
him out if they start losing and then you start
looking at the quarterback playing.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
And saying, yeah, he's not really light in the world
on fire.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Yeah, I would tend to agree. Obviously, both of them
came at a valued price tag, so there's no real
pressure to say, well, like a Daniel Jones situation, we
paid them, we gotta play them. Deshaun Watson situation, we
paid them, so we got to play them.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
That doesn't exist here.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
They put themselves in a position where they have two
quarterbacks that came in at the same exact time that
are former starting quarterbacks of another team. So to me,
I don't even really feel like it's a major discussion.
If Russell Wilson gets healthy and is able to show

(06:44):
what he can do, as Mike Thomlins said in his statements,
if he can show what he can do in practice
and at this point. Let's just say at the point
of where he's able to do so, the Pittsburgh Steelers
are maybe winning but not very good on offense, or

(07:04):
they're losing, sure he'll get an opportunity. But if they're
winning in a way that they're satisfied with the way
they're winning. This wasn't for Russell Wilson to lose the job.
This was for Russell Wilson to win the job. When
Justin Fields came in, it wasn't for Justin Filds to
lose the job. It was for Justin Fields to win

(07:25):
the job. Not one of these quarterbacks was in a
position where they were actually stable enough to look at
it from the perspective of it's their job to lose.
Now he was named the starter. Now I understand that,
but I don't think that that had any tremendous bearing
on on Tomlin and his coaching staff being married to

(07:49):
him being the starter. I think everyone knows that this
was a game by game basis situation and business or
job interviewed job audition for both of them. So for
Justin Fields, Justin Fields needs to be confident in the
sense that if he plays well, he's job auditioning and

(08:11):
could stabilize and take the job. He didn't blow anybody
away with the game that he had that first game.
It's not like we came away from the first game like, yep,
Justin Fields. You saw what Justin Fields could do. He
protected the ball, which was the most important thing. He
managed the game, which was probably I don't know, maybe

(08:33):
one A. Maybe that's one and ball protection is one
A or two, I don't know. But he didn't do
anything to hurt the team, and they know that they're
going to ride their defense to be able to win
games with either one of these guys in there. So
I just I don't look at it as it being
that big of a deal if Russ doesn't start, or

(08:55):
if Russ does start, I really don't. I just look
at it as who's going to win the job, because
it's ultimately a job that's up for grabs and has
been up for grabs since Ben Roethlisberger's decline as the
franchise quarterback of that team.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Like I looked at the game the other day, and
I'm thinking, to Brady's point, look if he and to
your point as well too, if he protects the football
and it doesn't look the greatest, but they're winning games.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I just don't see.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Mike Tomlin yanking him out of the lineup because, well,
look it's like no, like that, you're winning games. He's
not turning the ball over, which was really Mike Tomlin's
issue with Justin Fields in the preseason. It wasn't so
much his performance, it was the turnovers. He had a
couple of fumbles in a preseason game and he said
that was really what sort of soured.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Him on that performance in the game.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
If he just protects the football and they're winning games,
even if it's ugly like this and Chris Boswell's got
to kick six field goals, like, Mike Tomlin's not going
to make a switch. And look, if you're the Chicago Bears,
you're probably hoping he does. Because one of the conditions
in that trade was that sixth round pick turns into
a fourth if he placed fifty one percent of the snaps.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
So there is that component to this as well too.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I look at Russell Wilson and I go and I
don't know who made the point yesterday, but this really
is it for him? Like this is it, like Russell Wilson,
if this doesn't work in pitches it else where else
is he getting an opportunity? And I didn't see this
fall from grace for him after he left Seattle. I

(10:32):
just didn't see it. I thought the reason they moved
on from Russ in Seattle was the relationship with soured.
Him and Pete Carroll just weren't able to co exist
anymore and they needed to go their separate ways. And
to see where he's at now as opposed to where
he was, you know, his final couple of years with
the Seahawks. I did not anticipate kind of wild to
think about. I did you saw coming. I mean, but

(10:56):
like you said, his stats were hot.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
I just he was.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I'm just the MVP conversation one of those years, right.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
I just that year they said let rust cook, like
the year right before he.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
The first six games he was cooking.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Though, and then he got what was it the mallet
finger that final year in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh yeah, yeah, the dreaded mallifinger had one of those.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
And that's winks. That's where he u that's by the way,
how's the ankle?

Speaker 2 (11:25):
I don't know, man, I got imaging and stuff.

Speaker 6 (11:27):
Today, I'm not I'm not very optimistic, all right, I
just I don't want to have to have surgery, Like
I really, I've been through enough with those. Man, I
got four kids, I got a fifth coming, like I've
really I've realized when you have an injury at this age,
it is a huge setback to like your entire family,
Like I like when you get hurt as a quarterback,

(11:49):
like oh man, like and I you know, I had
a clean bill of health through college and the.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
NFL is a different story. It felt like every single.

Speaker 6 (11:55):
Time I got an opportunity, I was getting injured. But
like as a father, as a husband, dude, would you
have an injury like this and you're like either you know,
on crutches or wheelchair written or something.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
It is a huge.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
Liability to the rest of your family, especially with the
kids at the ages that they are. So I just
pray to God I do not have to get surgery.
And this is just a really bad sprain. Hell, I
would even do like the tightrope surgery, you know what
I'm saying. When they like bring back, yeah, when like
Tua came back after like a week and a half
or something, Dude, juice me up, whatever your need, give

(12:31):
me the tightrope.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
I just need to make sure that this does not
carry on very very much further the rest of this
football season.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Bro, What does that mean for your buying and schedule
for big news?

Speaker 6 (12:43):
I carry on business as usual, not gonna be moving
as fast, but business as usual as walking boot on.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, it's that in hell, you know. They told me
the other day, They're like, you know, we could get
you one of those carts in the airport.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
I said, nope, why because I do that I am.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
It's an ankle man.

Speaker 6 (13:06):
You could understand, Like my my foundation works with too
many veterans who have lost you know, legs, limbs, et cetera.
So I see too much of like the people who
really need that assistance, the people who really, like you know,
are considered.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Handicap and need help.

Speaker 4 (13:24):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I do not fall into that.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
If you got to get surgery on your ankle and
you can't put pressure on your ankle, me back into play, coach.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I'm ready to go get that tightrope bike.

Speaker 6 (13:35):
Changt me get that bike chair. I've got a couple
of bikes in that car. I'll just take it to
the orthopedics. Here, buddy, let me ta something.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
If you take in a bike chain and actual bike
chain from one of the bikes you got in your
garage and have them put it in your body, like
I'll never respect you more than that.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Like that and what a move. Yeah you imagine that
airport assistance.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
I'm pretty sure that chain one time like ripped off
my bike. Like I had a bit of a biking
accent once where it was. It was the most disappointed
chopper has ever been in me my entire life.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Like I used to go for these, like it was.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Like a nine mile sprint and I used to go
up this bridge and I was like, you know, you're
grinding like you're going up a hill. It's a pretty
big bridge and I don't know how, but like I
don't know if I hit something or if the change
just popped off, But like next thing I know, I'm
like tumbling over the top of the bike, scrape out
my knees, scraping on my arm, and I'm like at
this point, there's another guy who was like riding the

(14:32):
other way, and he like stopped. He's like, dude, you okay,
And I was like, yeah, I think so. And my
bike was like torn up from it. So I had
to walk about I don't know, probably three quarters of
a mile back home. And I get back and my
dad's looking at me and he's just like, what happened
to you? I was like, I full off my bike,
like hell, that happened.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
And he just looks at me, disgusted. He takes his
coffee and just walks away. He just goes on your bike.

Speaker 6 (14:58):
I think he wanted to call me like a few
different words that I can't there, but I was just
I looked at him.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
I'm like, no, no, chopper, I meant to do this,
like I meant to do this.

Speaker 4 (15:08):
Well, man, get that assistance. No, man with that ankle
is jacked up. No, put me in coach. I'm ready
to go.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
Yeah, yeah, right, especially if it's a long terminal. Man.
I tried that. I did a whole game. I did
Big New Big noon kickoffs. So you had doubt though.
That's different.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, but it's not because if you realize you had it,
If you hurt, you hurt.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Man. If you're down, you're down, sit, you're you're hurt,
injured that you're hurt, and well.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
All right, so you've got you've got Madison this week
and then do you know your schedule next week?

Speaker 7 (15:47):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I do.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
I can't reveal it yet, but things things will set
up well for me, at least in the short term.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
We'll see what things look like in the long term.
But in the short term, like I said, tight rope
me up, put me back in there, good co. Two
Pros and a Cup of Joe.

Speaker 7 (16:03):
Here about how.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
It's gonna look. And then there's the thing of like you,
what happened? Like every guy, Amen, what happened? What's I'm like?

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, I wrote my ancle plant soccer with my daughters.
All right, That's how it all happened. Like it's a
terrible story I need to make. How about this next segment?

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Can we all take our version of what story I
need to tell people of how I actually injured it?

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Absolutely? I have one. Oh yeah, I've got one too perfect.
I've got this sweet experience.

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Speaker 3 (17:22):
All right, So Brady super Bowl pick the Cleveland Browns.
They've got a little bit of a problem on their hands,
you know. And it's the guy who makes a ton
of money, Deshaun Watson poor play on Sunday. New allegation
of a sexual assault that comes out the following day.

(17:44):
So NFL spokesman Brian McCarthy says the league is investigating
the latest complaint against him. They're reviewing the claim under
the Personal Conduct Policy. So now going to be on
the Commissioner's exemp list. This is going to be viewed
under the Personal Conduct Policy.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I have no.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Idea I mean they're one and the same, but well
that they was pointed out there like they.

Speaker 6 (18:05):
Say, right, No, I'm just saying, like you'd put them
on the commissioner's exemplest during the investigation. They're just choosing
not to. Yeah, it all falls into the player contact palsy.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I just want to know, are they tired of hearing
this because there's someone in the NFL who's like, really
another one, Like, don't you think at some point like
they're just so tired of dealing with the same issue
in the same player. I'm just wondering if the Browns
are tired of him and they're looking for a way out.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
They are.

Speaker 4 (18:33):
Somebody's looking for a way of getting the Browns out
of this. They're trying to give them an oop, simple layup,
nice jumper.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
That I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
It's just the timing of it is way too It's
just it's too it.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
Makes too much sense.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Now, I will say this, I do not believe that
it is the Cleveland Browns that would be doing something
like this, but I'm certain that they're hoping that it
works out their way that they can get from under
this this contract.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
Who else will be doing it?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Do you think this like, is the one time that
you would think that a team is hoping that the
guy did what it is that he's that they're saying that.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Look like fingers crossed, Please be getting please, please be
something there?

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Oh no, Like generally you want to see a guy
and not get in trouble.

Speaker 3 (19:26):
But I don't know, man, I do not feel bad
for the Cleveland Browns organization at all on any level.
And they can people can point to you, well, because
there's some people that say, man like Kevin Stefanski's in
a bad spot, and all of that is true. They
aggressively pursued a guy that they knew how to track record.

(19:48):
They went above and beyond to try and get him.
They paid him all this money, and it.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Feels like ownership did though, Like, could you make the
case that you could feel bad for Stefanski because it
kind of feels like Stefanski he really, I mean, he's
settled the right things, but.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
I don't know how much he was a part of
the process.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
What did Stefanski and Baker Mayfield have like a falling out?
Was there some sort of an issue there?

Speaker 6 (20:12):
I think you're overrating the Stefanski part of this equation.
Do you know, I think the front office has a
lot more power there, and I think the owner has
obviously the most and the most saying.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
All of it.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
I just wonder if you pulled Stefanski aside and said, hey,
what are your real thoughts about this situation?

Speaker 6 (20:30):
Like he like, I wonder he's probably like I wish
he could have made it work with Baker.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Yeah, And I wonder if he's just and I wonder
if he's just tired of the whole thing, like if
he's tired of dealing with Deshaun Watson the whole Like
this entire run with him has been strange, Like it's
never like outside of just the play on the field,
the injury stuff, the messaging about the injuries, practice time
during this offseason. Now you get one game in it,

(20:55):
it's like, listen, we're not going to play him the
in the preseason.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
We're going to put him out there Week one. He
didn't look good Week one.

Speaker 3 (21:02):
There's all these other stories that are now coming out,
this one the other. It's like I just at some
point and I just keep going back to Mary kay
Cabot who said this offseason, look, they're not going to
be hesitant or shy about turning it over to Jameis
Winston if he's strung and it's I mean, I know
that you said, yeah, he said yeah, yeah, yeah. I

(21:24):
mean I know in the case they call her there
in Cleveland. I just I know there's a lot of
money tied up in him. I just wonder if they're
at the point where they're like, this is a bad deal,
Like why continue to try and go down this road
if he's not playing well?

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Like we got to try and whin You know.

Speaker 4 (21:40):
Those conversations are taking place behind closed doors.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
I mean, look, it's one game in the season. Can
we just let this thing play out? I mean, seriously,
it's one game.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
It's one week. I don't agree with that, but I
agree like that.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
There's overreactions everywhere right now, NFL, college football, you know,
football's two games in the season, NFL's won, and everyone's.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Like, oh there, it's over, move on, move on to that.
It's like this, it's one game now.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
As far as the allegations, we'll see how that's sorted out.
Which again, what he's been alleged of, all that stuff
is heinous. We've said it back when it took place,
But then the NFL not putting him on the exempt
list is what makes it most interesting to me, only
because there.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Is some stuff to sort out through this. You know,
if this is true, it's.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Ridiculous that you would allow a player to keep playing
despite of what, despite what's being alleged, and even if
it's not like once, you want to make sure you
can sort through all of.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
This and not have him play.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
This was the whole point of the exemp list for
a player who's in a situation similar to this, which
is why it's really surprising the NFL, for whatever reason,
has stopped using the exemplest.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Now.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I've heard that maybe they feel like players can be
blackmailed where these allegations can come up, they get thrown.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
The exempt list, their reputations hit.

Speaker 6 (23:09):
Now obviously they're still getting paid, but you know it hurts,
you know, bonuses, et cetera, if they're not out there playing.
So I've heard those conversations around the exempt list, But
why would you allow a player to keep playing if
this stuff is true? And we talked about how well,
it's not like he was proven innocent in the court
of law or even a civil court of law. They
settled and look if someone's got a legal opinion, they

(23:33):
want to try to teach us about how what that means.
It's like, you could say whatever you want, but that's
not proving his innocence.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
So in this scenario, why.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Wouldn't you use the exemplest That's what doesn't make any
sense about this.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
I'm still trying to understand. If she's come forward and
she's taking him to civil court, obviously that's a money
that's the money side of the legal system.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
To me, I'm trying.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
It's the money side in lieu of being able to
punish him. Right, you can do it criminally where you
take away his freedom, you put him in jail or
try to or you do the civil where you try
to take his assets take his money to basically pay
for the damage that's been caused to you.

Speaker 4 (24:21):
But it's considered to be probably more egregious if if
it's criminal.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Correct.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
Oh, Again, that's more about the burden of proof and
being able to prove what had taken place. It's easier
to in the civil court of law as opposed to
the criminal court of law.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Is a civil suit serious enough for the league to
suspend him a civil suit if he were to settle
or lose a civil suit.

Speaker 6 (24:50):
If he lost one, yeah, I personally think it would be. Now,
their burden of proof is different than what it is
in a court of law, but then there's the court
of perception. And so if he did go to trial,
and if he did lose in the civil court of law, yes,
I believe it would be enough for him to be
suspended punished. However, the only thing I don't know about.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
All this, and this is what we talked about yesterday,
is this happened over the same time period of the
twenty two other allegations. So is there some sort of
grandfather clause in where it's like, hey, this stuff.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
Went on during this period of time. He went through
his rehabilitation during the course of his suspension. They feel
like he's rehabilitated now. It's not happening now. This happened
back then, so we can't punish him for that. And
he had admitted that there might be some others that
come up that he couldn't specify, as we touched on yesterday.

(25:47):
So and even with the contract, like if they signed
the contract, there probably was some sort of clause it's like, hey, look,
this is the current you know, a set of circumstances.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
There could be others that come forth.

Speaker 6 (26:01):
This isn't gonna, you know, negate him from making his
guaranteed money within his contract. I would imagine his agent
should have or did in this case, which makes all
of this the fact that he's probably gonna still keep
playing and he's probably gonna still get you know, keep
getting paid.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
But what if it's new, Like I know that the
agent could have possibly did, but.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I'm saying it doesn't matter if it's new, it feels
during the same time period, because they probably put in
some sort of protection in there that would eliminate the
ability from the team of coming back and saying, oh,
well this this, this one's different.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
It's like, well is it?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
That's why to me, it's like, is the ultimate goal
to make money or is the ultimate goal to impact
Deshaun Watson? Because to me, this this lady, when I
read the report, if I read it correctly, she said that,
you know, I don't I don't know the difference between
rape and assault.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Out't I don't know.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
I know she said she did not have consensual relations
with that man.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
I do recall reading.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
That, and so if that's what happened, like he did
something to her in that way, and that's what she's
coming out and she's saying. I'm trying to understand how
is this a civil suit versus it being a criminal?
How does it become criminal? Because I think that that's

(27:29):
to me. If you're coming out and you're saying what
she's saying or alleging, and it's the same lawyer that's
taking on this case, what is their ultimate goal and
why is this the timing of it is what I
would be wondering, because ultimately, I feel like if it's
a criminal situation, if this were to turn into he

(27:52):
is now facing criminal charges, I think it ratches it up.
But maybe again, I'm not a legal guy, so I
don't know how all of it works. But I just
feel as though this is a money grab. This comes
across to me as the lawyer takes away the credit.
I hate to say it, the lawyer takes away the
value and the credibility of the claim Busby he takes it.

(28:16):
He takes it away because I think it's totally come
down to being a money grab for him.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
That's what it appears to be.

Speaker 6 (28:23):
To me, and his involvement, well, again, that comes down
to the attorney and to the alleged victim. They have
to decide, you know, what facts they have and how
they want to go out now trying to prove their case.
So you know, again in a criminal case, the burden
proof lies in the prosecution, all right, So in this

(28:45):
case it be Tony Buzby, and so they have to
prove that the defendant skilled is beyond a reasonable doubt, right,
Like you always hear that term that that's what that is, Okay,
In a civil case, it's different. The point if only
needs to prove there's a case of preponderance is just
saying that. It's like the amount of evidence that you
in order to persuade that you know that the defendant's

(29:07):
claim is more likely true than not, if that makes sense. Sure,
So that's that's very different. It's very different for certain.
But but I don't think you can look at like
how they're going about doing it and always say, well,
there's motive behind that, like you know, in a lawsuit
like this or if they go to trial, they're not

(29:28):
going to say, well, it's a civil suit, so it's
just a money grab. Right now, The perception of it
is the right Yeah, that's the perception. But the reality
is is sometimes that's just the better way of getting
you know, what they feel like justice for how they've
been wrong.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
I mean, I have no.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
From the legal standpoint, I'll be honest with you. It's
like the verbiage the laws, like what they can be
voided in the contract, what can't well.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
And you're not very truthful either. You already lied about Flo.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
It's true and I admit to that. But here's what
I do know. Deshaun Watson stinks. Okay, they're screwed at
quarterback and they're not making the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (30:08):
And I'll call my shot right now. And I don't
don't don't try to knock down my Super Bowl pick.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Look, I took one week. We just relaxed.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Look, I took the Bengals to represent the AFC, like
I got my own problems after.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Writ forums that like all that other stuff to go
along with it.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
But at least I know that I've seen quality play
out of Joe Burrow when he's there. What is Deshaun
Watson done since he's gotten to Cleveland That leads to
anybody to have any confidence that this team is going places?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Because and it didn't look like it was any different
on Sunday.

Speaker 4 (30:41):
It's even though it's just like I said, and and
Q said, it is the preseason, this is the first
this is the preseason game for the Vets. Get it
out of the way and let's see what happens. But
I did not see at Deshaun Watson where I was
like okay, yeah, like okay, like first ain't but like okay,

(31:01):
A lot of quarterbacks struggle. But you could look at
something like Jaydon Daniels. You know, he struggled, but he
looked good. He looked real athletic. I mean you what,
Aaron Rodgers had some bright moments. He looked good at
moments they struggled. You know, there was some quarterback A
lot of quarterbacks struggle.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Like what was the bright spot for Deshaun Watson, Like
since there was no bright spot in there, like the
thrower carry Judy the touchdown, I guess I.

Speaker 4 (31:27):
Don't think there were any bright spots for I just don't.
I don't know, man, I'm not a believer, not in
their stock. And this just seems coincidental to coincidental that
this would come up right after the first game.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
Jonas, what would you do if Deshaun Watson throws for
four touchdowns this next week.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
I make sure it's taken out of the podcast what
I just said, Like, I mean, I mean, I would
do the honest thing.

Speaker 6 (31:56):
Would would the honest thing ever be just admitting, say,
hey have overreacted one game into the twenty.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (32:02):
I listen Knox locks and I know everybody was wondering,
how knocks over three?

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yes, you got to say, though, that's the beauty of
sports and that's the beauty of sports talk radio.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is you make bold claims, prediction, yes, and then you
can't be.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Any reasonable sports talk like everything has to be oh
it's this next week.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
No, it's that yes, strong opinions, strong opinions, because if
you're not giving strong opinions, nobody cares.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
That's that's at least that's what I've learned.

Speaker 6 (32:32):
I understand that, I understand the business behind it, but
I also think there's an element of like we can
we can be reasonable to it and we go about
talking about I think it's reasonable to talk about extremes.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
I think that it's reasonable to think that Deshaun Watson stinks.
There's conversations that are taking place because they want to
move on from him at some point if it doesn't improve.
I think that's reasonable yet a bold claim after week one.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I think it's both.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And I've got more calm confidence in Stefanski than I
do Deshaun Watson because we've seen Stefanski take this team
to the playoffs twice. Now, neither was with Deshaun Watson.
The first was with Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 7 (33:10):
By the way, least, then.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
You said start them, Q even you said start Winston.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
Famous started.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
I said, well, first off, I said he should be
a starter somewhere.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
Okay, no, right, I mean start him.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
Last year was Joe Fla previous to that flow, Baker Mayfield,
like Stefanski, shown he can take this team to the
playoffs with various quarterbacks.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
But you gotta follow the money. Follow the money, Sorry, buddy,
where's the money?

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Jonas Jonas sensible pocket? There you go.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
It's too much for his back pocket, my guy, Yes, sir,
doesn't seem to have a backpocket on very much. Just saying, man,
you know.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
As Chaps, that's what I miss. I mean is that
his next move? Next move? I mean, all right, let's
move on. I'm telling you, man, I'm just saying, that's
that's one way to massage the buttocks. I'm just saying,
I'll still be covered up somewhat.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
I'm telling if you want to get this guy back
on track, somebody's got to like put some neon lights
in the shape of a foot in the locker room
and make him feel at home. Like that's that's the
only way we're going to get them back. I'm just saying, like, like, you.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
Got to look at what's best for He was getting
harassed by Michael Parsons all game long, and all I
could think about was, dang, I wonder what their agent
is thinking right now? Is such a dilemma?

Speaker 7 (34:40):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (34:40):
We also got to cut with such a dilemma on his.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Hands right by the way, We've also got to address
the fact and I didn't even know this was a
real thing until Brady sent this over that apparently there's
some people that are speculating that maybe we've got a
We've got some burner account speculation going on with Deshaun
Watson as well too, that there.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Might be uh might be a a Roy what is
it Leroy Bickers four. Yes, it's a great I mean it.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
Does seem like I don't know if it's David Mulgetta
or maybe his QB coach or someone someone set up
this account for him.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
No, try to defend all costs.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Where this So, here's all right, here's an idea I have.
Since it's Leroy Bickers four on Twitter, how about we
have our Leroy Lee de Lap read those tweets and
try and decipher whether or not they're Deshaun Watson, who's
got to a lot though I can't read them all,
ken like to find the best ones during the break

(35:42):
and we'll fire these off next Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and
a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and
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Speaker 7 (35:54):
Eastern three am Pacific.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
And right now it is a tradition like no other
every Wednesday morning. The co host of The Petrosy Money Show,
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football coverage, Petros Papadeka stops by. You can get him

(36:17):
on X at the Old p Petros, Good morning, how
are we feeling?

Speaker 7 (36:21):
I'm going to take you to the bank, Senator.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
The blood bank was that was that out for justice?

Speaker 7 (36:28):
I'm hard to.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Kill, Okay, facing storm, Yeah, he went face.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
He went into a went into a coma after he
watched the oscars at some liquor store.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
Right when I say, I'm on fiscrew screw Bockwood, boy, you.

Speaker 7 (36:45):
Really got a party with school face more time.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
It's really good, bro, especially for five in the morn's
almost scary.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Oh many petros at least usc They they responded after
the big win.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
They went out there. They took care of business over
Utah State. Yeah, they didn't pull a Notre Dame to
they I mean I didn't want to go there.

Speaker 7 (37:08):
You know, I met that coach Hammock.

Speaker 5 (37:12):
I did one of his games when they played in
Nebraska years ago in Lincoln, and we went down to
Lincoln and I got to do a game in Nebraska
probably the first and only time in my life. And
it was wonderful. But Nebraska was terrible. They had Scott
Frost and all that, but they still beat up. Coach
Hammick's team was one of those we pay you to

(37:32):
come and we beat you.

Speaker 7 (37:34):
But they did that at Notre Dame and it didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
They didn't win, But I feel like this happens, you know,
every two or three years to Notre Dame. Somebody gets them,
somebody that's they're not supposed to lose to because of
their weird schedule and the independent nature of it.

Speaker 7 (37:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I mean, it happened with Marshall.

Speaker 6 (37:51):
It happened with Marshall a couple of years ago, but
to be quite honest, it really doesn't happen that often.

Speaker 7 (37:58):
It might fuel that way got them.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
Yeah, I guess you're right, but I mean, it just
feels like since they play a lot of kind of
obscure because they have a different schedule every year because
of the independence, and well the acc thing has made
it a little more simple or complicated however you want
to look at it. But yes, I was as surprised
as that as anybody. You got to have the explosive

(38:22):
play and a couple special teams, things go right, and
that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
For next up, they've got to buy and then USC
has got big ten play, They've got Michigan, they've got Wiscont, Minnesota,
Penn State. Based on what you've seen thus far better
prepare for Big ten player.

Speaker 5 (38:39):
Now, well, what about everybody, I mean, everybody's been talking about, Oh,
these West Coast teams, they're in trouble.

Speaker 7 (38:45):
They're going to see what real football is like.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
And there's been so much puffing and snuffing. And USC
beat LSU, Mississippi State lost to Arizona State, who lost
nine games last year, and CAL went to Jordan Hare
and won. And Auburn looked horrible, I mean bad. They

(39:09):
weren't that bad on defense. Cal can move the ball,
they have a talented young quarterback, play callers pretty good.

Speaker 7 (39:15):
And Auburn looked bad.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
And so it doesn't really look like, oh my god,
none of these West Coast teams.

Speaker 7 (39:22):
I mean, Washington State's two and zero.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
They just beat Texas Tech and they don't even have
a conference. Well they have it, says PAC twelve. There
it looks so sad on the field. So the narrative
or whatever, the story has kind of shifted, at least
to the beginning of the year. And now USC, with
the way they looked and the way Michigan looked last week,
does that look like a really tough game for USC?

(39:45):
I mean, it might be a tough game, but it
certainly looks like a winnable game at the Big House.
After what happened with Texas and Fresno, this doesn't look
like the same Michigan team, so I think a lot
of the myth of these West Coast Well, we'll see
what happens with UCLA.

Speaker 7 (40:01):
Indiana's coming out to play UCLA on Saturday.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
That'll be interesting because they look so offensively good in
their last game Indiana did and UCLA looked so offensively
enapt But it's a tough balance. I mean, LaVar and
Brady can tell you, probably better they played for longer
than me, is that you never really recognize yourself after
the first game. The first game doesn't tell the story
of your season, but if you're a good tackling team

(40:26):
or you've improved at tackling, it shows up and usually
it kind of hangs in there for the rest of
the year. And that's what USC showed me against Michigan.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Lsu oh yah.

Speaker 6 (40:38):
I think the one thing that stands out to me
that feels different this year, and it's like trying to
figure out how to handle the emotions, is with the
expanded playoff, you can lose one, you can probably lose
two maybe you know, and still make it in.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
And it is so.

Speaker 6 (40:55):
Different than Larda State's going huh, well, I'm not saying
Florida State. That's they're still looking for a win. So
it could be three, four to five.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
We don't know.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
Yeah, but it's interesting, right, like who's gonna lock arms
and get it all figured out?

Speaker 7 (41:08):
Despite the demoralization of Boozinger.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
But even then, like we all played in eras where
if you lost a game, you're like, oh, well, we
don't control our own destiny, like you really felt like
you had to go undefeated or once you lost that
game like that, hope and dream is gone. And that
is now not very much the case at all. Like
there's gonna be teams, maybe even a team with three
losses that gets in this year.

Speaker 5 (41:32):
Yeah, it's it's well, and that's i think still sort
of like the weird sobering realizations. Right you're two weeks in,
you're three weeks in, and you're like, well, what does
this mean? And we still really don't know. We don't
really know what the year is going to be, Like,
we don't know what it's.

Speaker 7 (41:49):
Going to really be.

Speaker 5 (41:50):
Like when Washington and Oregon I mean, what about Oregon.
They don't look like the same team, do they. I mean,
I like Boise and I love that back, but he
ran for two hundred at Anson, and if they didn't
have two kick returns, one of which where the guy
dropped the ball early, they would have lost to Boise,
not just not covered and not covered against Idaho, who

(42:12):
just went out and beat Wyoming. And they're not even
an FBS school. So a lot of confusion to start
the year. And we're gonna play an early Civil War
Oregon and Oregon State. Oregon is Oregon State just beat
San Diego State. Washington State's gonna play an early Apple Cup.
They look really good. It's gonna be pretty wild going forward.

(42:33):
But I think it's the same thing as I said
all summer, even though we're about a few weeks in.
Nobody knows what's gonna happen to anybody except for the
forlorn rags of growing old.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
If you're lucky when you look at it, you just
named off like pretty much all all packed former and
some current PAC twelve schools. Is it important to like,
just you have the pulse of what you know? True
PAC twelve fans and even media or what you know,

(43:06):
whatever it may be, is it is it important to
see those teams do well? Like does that give you, guys,
you know, a sense of you know, sens a pride.

Speaker 7 (43:17):
I mean, I know, if it were pride right right
and ease?

Speaker 2 (43:22):
Yeah, let the children after.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
I guess I don't know.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I mean, is it just not a care like, don't
care at all? Like if it's for me, I mean,
my petres. How do you feel about it? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
But they're still the representatives of your you know, your
beloved falling.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Smell that smell that Petros smells like someone died.

Speaker 5 (43:45):
Yeah, well back smells like your wier dog died twenty
years ago. Hey, you still miss your wiener dog? Yes,
I still miss my wier dog. I always look familiarity
breeds carry to me, right. So if I know a team,
even if it's some weird team like I'm doing North

(44:06):
Texas on Saturday, I'm probably going to be interested in
what happens to North Texas for the rest of the
year and maybe next year. You know what I mean,
because you know about it. So I did the PAC
ten Game of the Week for ten years. You know,
I played in the PAC ten, and people have been
asking me about the Pac ten slash PAC twelve for

(44:27):
the last twenty five years plus, So yeah, I pay
attention to those teams. I know the history of those teams.
I'm interested to see how they fare at the next level.
But I'm interested in West Virginia because I've done you know,
twenty West Virginia games in my life. So I guess

(44:47):
for me, it's not a great gauge. But I think
people on the West Coast are still following the West
Coast teams regardless of where they are.

Speaker 7 (44:57):
I think it's I think.

Speaker 5 (44:58):
It's confusing because I think it's not just Okay, let's
sort it out.

Speaker 7 (45:04):
Cals in this.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Conference, Arizona states in this conference, Utah has got a
great shot in the Big twelve. Blah blah blah. That's
one thing to sort out. The tougher thing to sort
out is you don't really know who you're gonna play
every year, you know what I mean, Like, there's eighteen
teams in the Big ten.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
You could miss somebody forever.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
And we used to have a pretty normal travel partner
type of especially with the basketball season type of structure.
With the PAC twelve, I think that part of it.
And that's for everybody. You know, if you're at Purdue,
you're like, who are we playing this week?

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Jesus, you know.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
And they felt that way when Rutgers in Miami or
excuse me, Maryland came into the the Why Purdue anybody?

Speaker 7 (45:50):
You know what I'm saying, Because they've been in the
Big Ten forever.

Speaker 5 (45:53):
That's what the hell we playing?

Speaker 7 (45:59):
Rutgers? Penn State?

Speaker 2 (46:01):
What is this?

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Somebody asked me what Penn State was before they joined
the Big Ten?

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Depend like they were independent? You we're independent?

Speaker 5 (46:14):
Yeah, it's hard, you know, I mean it's hard to
keep track. I think that's the hardest part is like
who we play it every year?

Speaker 7 (46:19):
That's the new.

Speaker 3 (46:20):
Question had to be Produce Petrous papadegg is joining Questern
next week on Fox Sports Radio eight. Pete based on
all the drama, all the story, you know, the poor
play last week.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
How about Northwestern going to Washington in two weeks. Purple
on Purp Hell, Yeah, you don't see a lot of
Purp like that. I mean, you know, that's first team
all Purp.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Dann's like Prince Purple.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
Rain Man, Oh god, it's gonna be complained out there.
Who where's purple?

Speaker 5 (46:47):
Kansas State, LSU Washington that's it?

Speaker 2 (46:51):
And East Halton State? I mean, how far to take
this thing?

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Well Tarlton is I mean Western Illinois like they've got
purple purple?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Question, Joe, miss you son of a bitch. I'm just
saying the leather necks.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
So how do you think this finishes up or plays
out for Dion Sanders the rest of the way at Colorado?

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Based on what you've seen?

Speaker 5 (47:12):
I don't know, but I broke my u my unbiased
nature and text at j Norvel.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Oh state coach. What was that text? I told him,
go rams, Oh, that's going to be a heated game.
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 5 (47:28):
It's going to be an hour. It's going to be
a nine hour air raid, air raid, puzzo fight was
going to wipe the floor were They were the two
same teams last year and it was a war and
it was folesome.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
The problem is CSU is even worse this year.

Speaker 7 (47:47):
Their quarterback is a year older.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
All Right, I promise you will it will not be
as close as last year.

Speaker 7 (47:54):
Okay, I guarantee it a promise. There's a comfort to
a full.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Petri's when's the last time we had an air raid
puto fest in college.

Speaker 5 (48:05):
I got one coach's number in my phone, and you
have to sit there and tell me they're going to
get the floor wiped with them.

Speaker 7 (48:10):
Brady techs a lot. You know I didn't beat Notre Dame.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
I wasn't the fat full back that ran for ninety
yards on that one play to take.

Speaker 7 (48:18):
It out on me, tang.

Speaker 5 (48:22):
And you know what, I'll say this about the Ralphie
versus Cam the Ram the Rocky Mountain showdown. Brady, Ralphie's
a girl, Okay, Cam the Ram's got huge balls. You
look up on you look up Cam the Ram balls
on Google and you'll see a real sack.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Is that what you typed into your computer?

Speaker 7 (48:42):
After I saw him in real life?

Speaker 2 (48:44):
And you don't allow your kids on your computer?

Speaker 7 (48:47):
Do you this one down here?

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Yeah? We clear the history.

Speaker 7 (48:53):
It's part of doing business and research.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Look, here's the only thing I'll say is watching the
Texas CSU game Week one.

Speaker 7 (49:01):
Got blown off. They got blown off the field.

Speaker 6 (49:02):
It was awful and looked Texas is really good, don't
get me wrong, But there was also some times where
you're like, oh, that guy just doesn't want to fill
and make.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
A tackle like I'm told I was told maybe last
year of the year before when j Norvel was in
the transition, and I guess still is of turning Colorado
State from uh like an Adasio.

Speaker 7 (49:23):
Rough and tumble power yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
Uh to an air raid Jaye Dorvel look like a
soft Big twelve team, And uh, I believe I was
told that a couple guys like they had the game
in front of them, get hurt so they were gonna
have to start and they just quit the team.

Speaker 7 (49:47):
So you might have something.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
But you know, when it's two air raid teams, you know,
I feel like, you know, it could be like two
super Swool guys, but they're still shooting at each other
with NERF.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
Guns, you know.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I mean, uh, have you seen uh some problematic behavior
or or play at Colorado that would lead you to believe.

Speaker 7 (50:07):
I mean Chad leaving the field with two minutes left?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
I mean, I don't know, you know, like, like, what what.

Speaker 5 (50:12):
Is strung rap song that we listened to Schadur's rap
song a lot this week on the show.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Oh, you'll get called a hater if you say anything,
you know, but then again, you don't.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Like disappearing it though it. Yeah, I know, I mean
some people, you know.

Speaker 7 (50:26):
I wonder like going to be like, hey, this was
a bad decision.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
Well wasn't wasn't Joel responsible for helping?

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (50:34):
They all feel pretty good about it because they get
attention and money.

Speaker 7 (50:37):
But I just look it.

Speaker 5 (50:40):
It feels like discipline wise on the field, play what
they value, what is celebrated, the whole style of of
of football top to bottom. Colorado feels like an overly
glorified the most glorified seven on sevent team of all time.
Dang right, shouldn't they change their name to like a

(51:03):
more seven on seven name?

Speaker 7 (51:04):
Like can't fade me?

Speaker 5 (51:08):
The Colorado was salt, Yeah, the Colorado air asault head.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
The Colorado money Boys.

Speaker 5 (51:15):
Exactly right, cash money Colorado football.

Speaker 2 (51:18):
There you go. How does the Shadur song go?

Speaker 7 (51:22):
Got them back? Gets up on my neck on stails.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Shine away?

Speaker 5 (51:32):
We thought it was like the N word, and we
kept playing it over and over again. We're like, there's
a handword again. There it is again, and it's not.
It's not the N word. But that's why they mean.

Speaker 11 (51:44):
I I mean, it's it's like it's like yesterday when
Fred Rogan was playing the Tyreek Hill body came rest
and they left the f bombs in live on the air.

Speaker 7 (51:57):
Is Fred is barely doing the job, Like, let's be.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Jonas is up there every day.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
Now I know Jonas has to put him on his
back like Lieutenant Dan and run him out of the jungle.
Jonas says, three hours in the morning for six and
that Fred on his back like Yoda running through the
the the degabus system.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
Now that we're here, thoughts on Deshaun Watson.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
Shout Watson talk about like that.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
My ram man. Can we yeah, the.

Speaker 7 (52:48):
Massage bandit.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Because he didn't play well.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
There's another allegation too.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Oh somebody else said he he had his out.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
This time they talked more about his buttocks.

Speaker 7 (53:02):
But really, I mean butt stuff. What did he do?
Just flip over and like give a look. H well,
you asked me. I don't know the.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Way she stated it. He just really really needed her
focus on making sure she rubbed it both of them
with equal attention and like you know, pressure of the
thumbs and fingers and all that.

Speaker 7 (53:32):
Cock it up and whine.

Speaker 4 (53:34):
I mean, why wine river.

Speaker 2 (53:42):
Wind it winded?

Speaker 5 (53:45):
I don't know, you know, al Gore and John Travolta
also had some big massage.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
Alligation, did they who knew? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (53:54):
Al Gore, the.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Guy who invented the internet, the guy that invented the
internet and global warming. He would come out of the
bathroom like, you know, with the robe open, like hey,
what's up? Allegedly same with Travolta, like, hey, man, you
see anything that.

Speaker 7 (54:11):
Needs taking care of down there?

Speaker 5 (54:15):
Hey, by the way, why is Deshan Watson get all
the heat?

Speaker 7 (54:18):
I'll tell you why? Oh oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
And they've got a track record.

Speaker 3 (54:26):
Well, and they also, you know some of the video
they like to grab for certain parts of the body.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Well that's okay.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
Well, I mean speaking of football, So you're doing North
Texas this weekend.

Speaker 7 (54:38):
Yeah, hey, nice transition.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
But I was going to say, you know who the
most famous North Texas a lum.

Speaker 7 (54:43):
Is meet Joe Green. Now they named the team after
it mean Green, No mean Joe Green.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I mean Hello Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Oh that's right. They do the beer thing on the sideline. Yeah,
they do that celebration. They'd balk together. I guess it's
who like waters and cans.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Oh yeah, and.

Speaker 7 (55:03):
They do that. Yeah, that's another air raid versus Air
Raid Team.

Speaker 5 (55:06):
So I have a North Texas versus Texas Tech and
that will be about a nine hour game.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
Tyler Shucks seventh year.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Shuck is not the quarterback at Texas Tech, right Baron
Morton Treless.

Speaker 7 (55:21):
Shuck, I believe is somewhere else now.

Speaker 6 (55:24):
I know that, But I was just I was thinking
about him for example, because there's a lot of guys
who got their seventh year.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
I'm still trying to figure out how that math adds up.

Speaker 5 (55:32):
Well, look at the Cam Rising got hurt again. Yeah, yeah,
toss quarterback Kyle went.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Its two red shirts and the COVID year.

Speaker 5 (55:40):
Is that your red shirts and a COVID year twenty
five outfits and a mic check? This guy cam Rising
is old and Whittingham never tells anybody if he's gonna
play or not. It's literally like it will never end
before Kyle Whittingham retires. Please Cam Rising be on playing

(56:00):
at Utah so you don't have to mess with all
the weird broadcasters and tell them all. I don't know,
he's a great leader, He's gonna play, and then you
run out some pig farmer walk on from outside salt
stop doing it, Utah play, play the game like everybody else.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Jesus.

Speaker 5 (56:18):
Cam Rising guy has been probable for every game since
two thousand and nine.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
The weird thing is he started at Texas I know
if you if you really think about it, he hasn't
been at Utah for the entirety of his career. Some
of the players have been like one school forever, but
most of them transferred.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
To Morgan Scally, the Utah defensive coordinator and coach, and
Waiting was a senior safety when Cam Rising was fishman.

Speaker 3 (56:47):
Dang well, listen, it's always fun ride here, pee at
the old pon x he Beyond.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
I feel bad about NIU, but I think the Irish
can bounce back.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
North Texas Texas Tech.

Speaker 3 (56:59):
That's a not nine o'clock Pacific time, noon Eastern time
kick on FS one this Saturday. You can catch Petros
there and he's a tyler playing who knows.

Speaker 7 (57:10):
Well, can't somebody find out?

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Well, not in time.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
No, it's too important to get the forty year old
Steven Sagolf.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah is at Is he a Louisville Now?

Speaker 7 (57:22):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (57:24):
All right, Petros, we appreciate it. We'll do it again
next week. There he is he's at Louisville. Now there
you go, the old.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
Only mascot that has teeth. It's a bird tang.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
That's a great point, by the way.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Petros Papadakis the co host of The Petros Money Show
and also Fox College Football analyst with us here on FSR.