September 12, 2024 • 37 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Deshaun Watson speaks for the first time since the new allegations against him. Robert Kraft is ‘furious’ over Jerry Jones being in the Hall of Fame instead of him. Reggie Bush chases off burglars and another busted ankle on “ICYMI.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:52):
Here.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Al alright, alright, come on, Jonas, al.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Shannon you animal, Jonas, Jonas, give it to me, Jones, Jonas,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
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in the f S r Unk was growling on him.
He was dropping the growl on him.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, I can assure you that will not the audio
we show.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Uh No Brady Quinn uh so, obviously you're aware of
Brady's ankle issue. He thought it was going to be
the safe play to just go ahead and take a
bunch of peds. Unfortunately pissed hot. So no Brady quin
here on the Today. Come on, you get that ankle together. Yeah,
so listen, we will not let an injury let you
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get away with performance and answers.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Here you take you take his ankle with barking like
they took the sound on Q's ankle was ankle.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
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considering what we're going to get into to start off
the segment, away we go, we go.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hey, you know, apparently Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Was unaware that he was on IG live, and uh,
I just don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The next thing, you know, they were at the batting
cages and.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Uh batter up, Michelle up to the plate, whoever.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
So better better better swing, no matter, no matter, no matter,
no happens to the best of us.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But you got one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't have no live sex tape out there. I
tell you that, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I just you know, wasn't wasn't expecting that to be
the turn we took midweek following Week one in the NFL.
I wasn't expecting that. I mean I also probably wasn't
expecting you know, the situation to uh veer off the
tracks as quickly as it did in Cleveland based.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
US. And it's like the same arena. I I wonder
how that stuff. You think there's a live of him
hitting his buttocks rubbed out?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh no, no, no, no, there's no And based on
the transcripts of what went down, I'm gonna go ahead
and passing any of those on any of the ability
to watch any of that stuff. I'm not really that
really interested to see.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Yeah, get that elbow in there, just yeah, get that
thumb in there, yeah, thumbs yeah, fingers yeah, I'm uh oh,
and he played for the dogs like he played for
the dog.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, that's a great point. It all ties together, uh sir.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If anybody was interested and seeing how flexible cheeked, if
anybody's interested in seeing how flexible the brown starting quarterback was,
you can go try and find that tape somewhere. But nonetheless,
a new uh claim against Deshaun Watson came out this
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week following that bag of vomit he rolled out in
Cleveland over the weekend against the Cowboys, and of course
he was going to be asked about it at the
second the media had an outpportunity to do so. The
first opportunity to do that was on Wednesday, and so
they asked him, listen, you know, how important is availability
for this team?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And then also just the support he has received from
the organization.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
I mean it's very important, you know, availability is the
biggest is one of the biggest things. You got to
be available for your teammates to be out there to
go help win. So again, you know, I have to
focus on what today's brains and today is Wednesday and
getting ready for these meetings and for this practice, and
we'll have to see what happens. You know, I can't
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speak for the fans. I can't speak for any anybody
outside this building, but I know that you know, hearing
from the Hasms and they be and those guys, I
know that they tell me Ehoon every day that they
you know, support me and it got my back and
that they want me to focus on being the best
quarterback I can be. That's all I can do is
just speak my truth, tell them the truth. They talk
with my legal team and everyone that was a part
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of this whole process, and you know, they have to
make their decision, and that decision was to you know,
have give me an opportunity to come be the franchise quarterback.
Too helped his team win.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So Tony Busby, who is the guy who has represented
all these women's, all these women in these lawsuits, He
released a statement saying they reached out to Deshaun Watson
in his camp ten months ago to try and get
the whole thing settled. There was pushback allegedly, and that's
why this stuff has come out public now. So they
(06:27):
tried a while back, and so now the conversation becomes, isn't.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That called like extortion? Isn't there something to that? Like?
Isn't that blackmail? Or something like? Isn't there something to that?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
The problem though, is if it turns out that this
is true, or he settles or what like, there is
a chance that he is in violation of his contract
and the Browns can try and get out of whatever
the ninety plus million dollar is is he's got coming.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
The next We were right that the conversation we had
yesterday was was accurate.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, if he did not disclose this information, because Stefanskin
spoke yesterday and said I didn't know anything about it.
But again, we're letting the legal process play out and
we're following the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So that's quite the dilemma to be in if you're
Deshaun Watson, because you can't just settle to make it
go away, right, because that could be grounds for the
Browns to move on him. Yes, well, so then that
means that he has to take into trial and I mean,
which that wouldn't I mean, how long would that take?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, there's and there's gonna be the appeal. There's gonna
be like it. And really what there's also the other
aspect of it, where if the NFL punishes him, that's
you know, a violation of the you know, player conduct policy.
That could also possibly be in violation of the contract
as well too. And so I look at the whole
situation and we curious. Man, Look, we don't know how
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this is going to play out.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But here's what we do know.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We know that we've got a guy with a background,
We've got poor play on the field, We've got potential
burner accounts, which is all just haha whatever, and who
knows if it's even true. You've got a video out
of like fans in the parking lot from a woman
who was doing some interviews with people saying that they
(08:13):
were given sweet tickets from Deshaun Watson's agent to try
and come up to the suite you know, not I
mean not so much, you know, for some of the
extra curriculars, but more so to try and the optics,
you know, curry favor with the fans and show like hey, listen,
we need some support. Like there's been some rumblings out
there that maybe there's some people out there that have
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been paid or been given things to try and support,
like they're trying really hard to change the narrative and
discussion around him. Meanwhile, the play on the field is terrible,
and it's been terrible this entire time, and at some point,
like when are we just going to stop and just
take a step back and say it's over? Dude, Like
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his time as being a franchise caliber quarterback in the
NFL and being somebody that you would build your organization
around is probably over. I mean it's been four years
since we've seen that level of football from him, Like
what do we But he doesn't have to have that
level of football. I know that's sport. So what it is?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
What you mean it's over for? It ain't over for
just get started. It's over. It's over. And maybe starting
as a quarterback, and this is the part that's so mindful,
go somewhere else and be a backup in pad like
a zillion dollars more than the Persson's start in front
of him.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And this is the part that's so mind boggling about
all of it, like he could be just average. They're
so pot committed to him. All he has to do
is just not be a weirdo, Like, dude, just don't
be a creep, like like, that's it, and you're gonna
make two hundred and thirty million dollars for being an
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average quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
You can't do anything about it. But technically, for what
it's worth, maybe he hasn't been a freak or a
weirdo since everything has happened. I would agree he just
ain't balling and that's it. And that's totally fine because
that the allegations aren't new allegations. They're old allegations.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So if something like this pops up and it leads
to conversations and investigations and the NFL looking into it
and some sort of a punishment, the guy's going to
cost himself hundreds.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Of that's true. That now, that's true. That's like on
some Male Tucker type stuff, right, like, you got your contract,
you got your guarantee years, like, just just don't screw
it up. Just don't screw it up. There's no way
other than doing something that is a conduct detrimental to
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the organization that could screw it up.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It would be like if somebody had a winning lottery
ticket and he said, hey man, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And then you went out and did something that got
you rested and put in jail for life.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Or like it's or this easy, like, hey man, you
got a winning lottery ticket. Just whatever you do, like
don't do the laundry with that thing in your pocket,
and then numb Nuts throws it in the washer and goes,
oh no, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Just like, don't be a weirdo. That's it. You got
two hundred and thirty million dollars, Like it's not the like,
so I'm like him, Bro, it's not the same. He
won that money. That money is going into his bank
account as we speak. Good god man, it's it's more
or less you. Why would you? Why would you put
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yourself in a position where you're in default of that
type of compensation? And I think that that's that's to me,
he's said. Like I said, I don't think he even remembers.
He probably doesn't even remember all of the people that
he's had these experiences with, Like if you think about it,
(11:57):
which is kind of wild, because can you call it,
like can you all and weird for forgetting somebody that
he was dealing with. If you've dealt with so many
people like I thought, I told you guys, everybody that
what I had this type of interaction with It's like, hey,
remember that one cup of coffee you had? No I
thought I found so many I but then now here
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you want to know, when I was looking at this
story and I was thinking about it, I know we're
up on the break, but this is what it made
me think. Jonas listening to this account and the details
of what took place here, there's a strong possibility that
every sexual encounter that Deshaun Watson has had could be
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put on blast. Oh jeez, because this was not about
it being him going to a therapist. This was a date.
So now it's crossed over from I was getting, you know, therapy,
to now this was something that was personally driven. He
went to pick her up, He went to go on
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a date. He came up in there because she was
still getting ready. He found himself butt naked, face down
on her bed while she was still putting her makeup on.
Like this now crosses this now crosses categories. So now
what's happened is by buzzby putting this out there and
this going out into the world, whatever happens in terms
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of if he settles, he could be facing this same
situation over and over and over and over again. If
it's based off of his sexual or dating experiences with
the people that are out there. It's just so weird.
(13:52):
That's a lot. That's I mean, that man has got
to be living in paranoia every single day.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Bro. And by the way, so you know, stiff Fansky
was interviewed yesterday, of course, and they're gonna ask him
about it, and he's just kind of like, hey, we're
focused on At some point, Stefansky's got to be fed
up with this crap, Like, dude, what like what is
going on here? Like, like, can we just like it's
one thing to like work through some struggles. He didn't
play in the preseason coming off an injury, we get it,
(14:19):
but like you can't even like the body's not even
cold on the game. That was a disaster, and then
you've got this thrown on top of it, and people
aren't focused in on talking about the game now.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
The focus is now on what's next for this this situation,
And again, everybody's going to try to figure out the
timing of it, The timing of it is just curious, man,
very peculiar. Why now like week one, like he goes
out there, he lays an egg. We don't know if
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he's going, like Q said yesterday, listen this week one,
we don't know if he's gonna hitch stride or not.
Doesn't seem like he's going to trend up kind of.
He's been who he's been when he's had his opportunities.
I mean, that's debatable, but I don't think he's been
anything special since since coming to Cleveland, and he hasn't
been available. So whatever reason that is or excuses that
(15:15):
may be given, it is what it is. But that's
the truth nonetheless. But Jonas, I'm telling you, if I'm Stefanski,
you have to be thinking about what you're going to
do in order to keep the confusion and the noise
of this at the minimum, because this is one of
(15:35):
those This is one of them stories where I know
how locker rooms are, man, they're unforgiving. There may be
some dudes that support Deshaun Watson fiercely and intensely, like
as a teammate, as a friend. There's gonna be dudes
in that locker room that every time he cost them
a game or doesn't play well, they're gonna be like,
(15:56):
you need to go get your butts rub, bro, you
need some butt rubs? Is your butt hurt? Huh? You
need some thumbs? Need little elbow acts? And what what?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
What you need?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
What you need out? And they going they're they're not
going to give him passes on all the things that
are taking place out here. And I wonder I'd be
curious to know if if some of the identities of
these people are you know, connected with some of the
other people within the industry of sport. You know, maybe
(16:29):
people know these these people that that he's interacted with, like.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like some of these people aren't even massuses like correct
like this, Like the woman this just chicks that you
meet out. Yeah, he met her at a restaurant bar.
She was a single mother. I think she might have
worked at the restaurant or bar. And then you know,
he got frustrated because he couldn't find her apartment and said,
I don't have time for this and became angry. And
then he showed up to the place and she was
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putting her makeup on, and then she comes out and
you know, he's doing faced downs.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, doing the worm. You know, I'm talking about break dancing, man,
I got you yeah, not where you was at a
little solo twister, which is bad because this is so
bad that way that you could actually interpret it that way.
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well listen, hey, I didn't pick them to go to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I know that, I know that I want them to
be good, so bad man, this might be a tough
year for Ohio.
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So ESPN had this long article that came out yesterday
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from Don Van Atta Junior, who does great work, but
it was all about how Bob Kraft you know Robert Craft,
you know Bobby or Bobby. Yeah, he has been trying
to get into the Hall of Fame and has been
unsuccessful to do so. And one of the things that
is interesting, I just I love it when rich people
(19:52):
and powerful people fight. I don't know why. It just
warms my heart. But he's upset and apparently he's from
frustrated that Jerry Jones is already in the Hall of
Fame and he's not. And one of the quotes from
this that he told a confidant was that quote, he
hasn't been to the NFC title game in two decades
and he gets in. He also went on to say,
(20:15):
how does that work? Which is fair?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is fair?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean, all of that is fair, But I do
wonder why he's not gotten in, and maybe it does
have something to do with whatever happened that, you know,
orchards of Asia, which you know, not to make this
entire first half of the show an our one all
about people who've got got things about getting massages, But like,
(20:39):
what would be the problem with him getting in? Is
it the spygate? Is it, you know, the deflated footballs?
I mean, the credentials are there like we've never seen before.
Yet he's still on the outside looking in, and apparently.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You hold him out because of the massage parlor. I
don't think so, because if you're not going to hold
him out because of that parlor, that you can't you
can't deny that he's ran an organization that is arguably
one of the greatest franchise runs dynasty runs ever in
(21:17):
the history of sport, not just not just football. It
could be the best. I mean, I'm pretty certain it's
the best run, best dynasty dynasty run in the league. Right.
I don't think anybody out did that what they've done.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, and considering they basically had three or two
dynasties to where you had the first run and then
you had the second one like those were, like there
was this period of time where they hadn't won a
Super Bowl close to ten years, right when they got
back and there was that Super Bowl Seattle and so
to get back to that point. But it's almost like
(21:54):
it I wonder if some of this is based on
the fact that he hasn't been a visible, I guess, talkative,
like out in front owner like Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
That can't be what it is because there's that. I mean,
that's not going to be the catalyst of an owner,
all right, So let me let's like just think about
it like this. If I were to tell you, all right,
name me the most important people of the Patriots dynasty,
(22:27):
like you would say Brady and Belichick, or to say,
name me the most important people of the Cowboys dynasty,
like Jerry Jones is on that list. You're something you
wouldn't mention. Bob Kraft.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I don't think you would like who. I just think
it's he's not as out in me.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't think that's going to be Just like with Dallas,
I don't think the first name would be Jerry Jones. No,
I don't think I think he would say his name
because he is so vocal and he is so out front.
But a lot of people look at the whole old
conversation surrounding Jerry Jones at this point is that he
couldn't handle the fact that Jimmy Johnson created a winner,
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and he wanted to be able to create a winner,
and that's what he's been chased. He's been chasing that
ghost ever since Jimmy Johnson left. To me, I almost
look at it from the standpoint of understanding the dynamic
that Jerry Jones had with that team and with the
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coach and with the media. Sure, he put he puts
himself out there and he's out there for public consumption
more so than any other owner that that we've ever
heard of. But with that being said, you look at
Robert Craft. Robert Kraft was walking around with celebrities. Robert
Kraft was walking around wearing Air Force ones. Robert Craft
(23:49):
kind of got integrated into hip hop culture. So people
know who Robert Craft is. People have seen Robert Craft around.
Robert Craft hasn't been a media person, but he has
spoken in the media. He has had things to say.
There have been a lot of things that have been
(24:10):
relevant that have come from him through the years just
because of the success of his franchise. So I wouldn't
say I wouldn't say he had to be as outgoing
as in front of the cameras and on the inner
webs and on social or on a weekly hit on
a radio show for his profile to be large enough
(24:32):
to make it into the Hall of Fame. I think
people knew know enough about Robert Kraft what his involvement was.
You could tell that his presence was felt by by
Belichick and by Brady, and his ability to allow Bill
Belichick to be who Bill Belichick ultimately was for the Patriots,
(24:58):
allowed it to become what it with Tom Brady for
the Patriots, with a host of other players that they
brought in that helped them to win. I can't see
how you're not putting him. He hasn't gone into the
Hall of Fame. If it's not a conduct reason, if
it's just being a dope ass owner with results, how
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do you keep him out. He's got more Super Bowls
than any other owner.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I just and there's also yeah, like if you were
to try and find a reason why, then maybe more
superb and then conduct would make me make the most sense.
Like Okay, well, maybe that, but that's I don't know
that anybody like, yeah, we'll bring it up, but I
don't know, Like there was a lot of other people
involved in that. There was like a pro golfer who
got caught up in that and it was you know,
(25:48):
like I get it. It wasn't a good look. But
you know, it's not like Jerry Jones has had, you know,
squeaky clean stories off the field.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean, he just had you know, he's already but
he's already in now.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's like, I do wonder why because and apparently it
bothered Bob Kraft that Jerry Jones got in before him.
So they've got this rivalry.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
They've got this that's just between the two of them,
don't you feel like I'll say this, for the popularity
and the legitimacy that continues to grow with the NFL,
I would say Jerry Jones's presence has been more valuable
to the brand the Shield itself than even the Dallas Cowboys.
(26:37):
And that's probably the separation, not the media aspect of
Jerry Jones, It's the Jerry Jones drives the Shield. Jerry
Jones is a lightning rod and an influencer for the
National Football League and both the media in front of fans,
(26:57):
but probably as an ambassador, probably as as a businessman
behind the closed doors. That's Jerry Jones's influence is ultimately
what I would say what separates him from from Robert Kraft.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And also, look like we can sit here and poke
fun at Jerry Jones loves the attention, He's got an ego.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
All of that is true.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Guy works his ass off, Like I mean, he's doing interviews,
he's talking to the media, he's always available. He's pushing
the you know, the league to go places and you know,
the team's coming to LA Like Jerry Jones is the
guy that was working with the other owners to try
and get it done. Like he has power and influence
in the league that Robert Kraft doesn't. And so what
(27:41):
he's done for the league is on a level that
we've maybe never seen before. And it's why. Look, the
Cowboys are the first ever franchise valued at over ten
billion dollars. That's never happened.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's the difference. And so the difference it's just it is.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And this is what I think of. We're gonna find doubt,
all right, if the Cowboys coaching job opens up after
this season, which you know who the hell knows. But
let's just hypothetically say Mike McCarthy is gone. We're gonna
find out everything we need to know about Belichick and
Craft's relationship if Belichick takes the Cowboys job, you think,
(28:19):
because that would be an f you and kiss my
ass to Robert Kraft. If he took Bill par Sales
did the same thing, okay, and like that did not
you know, I I don't think that those two are
on on great terms right. I don't think there there's
any animosity zones right with your with I'm talking about Robert.
(28:41):
I don't know that they left on good terms and
Dallas either. But I look at it and I go,
how much would that irk Robert Kraft if Belichick was
able to go elsewhere?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And when yes, I mean it seems like now knowing
what we know about the relationship a little bit more
and understanding that there were some you know, kind of
relationship challenges, I guess it would would irk him a lot.
(29:15):
I guess it would bother him a lot. If Bill
Belichick I didn't think when you guys, you and Q
were saying he was trying to block him from getting
different jobs, try to block him from getting the Atlanta job,
try to block them from getting other jobs. I thought
that was preposterous to hear y'all say that, and then
it kind of comes out a little bit, you know,
(29:37):
in the media, like yeah, like he was like politics
and like to keep this dude from getting the job.
That's strange to me, because my whole thing is Bill
Belichick has coached as a head coach before in the
National Football League. He did not have that success that
he had with the New England Patriots. There's a strong,
(30:03):
very very very very very very strong possibility that Bill
Belichick may never regain form like he did with with
the New England bag.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I can almost guarantee he wont good luck.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
So yeah, why even risk your own reputation because if
he goes somewhere and has success, you can ultimately say
I helped Bill Belichick create the blueprint of how to
win at the national football level.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Because he wants the all time wins record. And again
this goes back to ego. Apparently him and Don Shula,
he's not they were not crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
But you're talking about Bill Belichick's So my whole thing
is again, if I'm Robert Kraft, why would you be
worried about if Bill Belichick coaches, if he wins, you
take credit if you want, if you want to get
in the Hall of Fame, you'd be like, you know what,
Bill Belichick didn't learn what he needed to know about
(31:05):
how to run a team that wins championships the way
that they do or the way they did in New
England until he was with me. You can do that
as the owner and can't nobody say nothing about it
because it's your purse that was paying everybody that was
employed that was a part of that amazing time for
(31:27):
that franchise. So what are you worried for? What is
your issue with Bill Belichick going somewhere and having more success.
It seems like to me that's more vindictive if you
don't want him to go somewhere else and coach. It's
more like if you're not going to coach for me,
you're not coaching for anyone like this has already happened.
(31:49):
You constant me Tom. I didn't want to let Tom go.
We had to lose Tom cause of your ass. Now
you want to go somewhere else and coach, I don't
think so I already had this. I don't want it.
That's more vindictive. I don't think it's more you know,
oh well, I don't think it's anything else, don't. I
(32:09):
really don't. So if that's the case, if Jerry Jones
wants to stick it to Robert Kraft, I still don't
think that. I don't think Belichick does enough for the
Cowboys in that scenario, in that situation for it to
ever be relevant enough for him to thumb and throw
(32:31):
it up into Robert Kraft's face. I just don't.
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Speaker 9 (35:01):
Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar. Who
needs Brady? We got Tim and Darren in the house.
Good morning everybody, guys. Case you missed this, what's hey, guys?
In case you missed this, Right down the street, from here.
Reggie Bush successfully stopped a frightening home invasion. That is, uh,
(35:21):
hey Brady, that is I don't know why they need
to put this in there. His six million dollar mansion
down the street. And then Sino Reggie Bush chase the
guys off. Good for you, Reggie Bush.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Just be safe out here, man, and trying to hear
about Reggie Bush chase them off, and then they chased
him back. And then you know what happened to be
careful out here?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Man? I mean, what do people going to learn their lesson?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Didn't that guy in a Gore Hills who lit up
those two uh you know, it was like a Chilean
like armed robbery mob that was like showing up at
houses robbing houses. And this guy was like a former
box right.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
In the sixties, loaded off. They were fouling against him,
like the.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Guy They showed the mugshot of the guy he beat up,
and the guy looked like he had fallen off a building.
Like they just got completely annihilated. But people are still
playing this game. Okay, we're just gonna break into homes,
all right, good luck with that.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You must be willing to risk it all man, cause
some people ain't throwing hands. That's all I'll say. Oh
what else? I know how that goes? Guys.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
In case you missed this, uh called BS on this
or not, Joe Buck's wife just had a successful surgery
on her ankle after he drove a golf ball into it,
much like Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You have a golf ball or a golf cart, a
golf ball, drove it off the tee anywhere, he said,
and you gave that as.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
What Brady should use as his story, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I think I threw it out.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Because he said, puck into the ale. You said golf ball, Yeah,
that's that is wow? Crazy right, shattered her ankle, I mean,
get better soon. Swinging a club for him, damn
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Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, I can assure you that will not the audio
we show.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Uh No Brady Quinn uh so, obviously you're aware of
Brady's ankle issue. He thought it was going to be
the safe play to just go ahead and take a
bunch of peds. Unfortunately pissed hot. So no Brady quin
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so listen, we will not let an injury let you
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get away with performance and answers.
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Here you take you take his ankle with barking like
they took the sound on Q's ankle was ankle.
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Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hey, you know, apparently Shannon Sharp.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Was unaware that he was on IG live, and uh,
I just don't buy that.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
The next thing, you know, they were at the batting
cages and.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Uh batter up, Michelle up to the plate, whoever.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
So better better better swing, no matter, no matter, no matter,
no happens to the best of us.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
But you got one of them.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't have no live sex tape out there. I
tell you that, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I just you know, wasn't wasn't expecting that to be
the turn we took midweek following Week one in the NFL.
I wasn't expecting that. I mean I also probably wasn't
expecting you know, the situation to uh veer off the
tracks as quickly as it did in Cleveland based.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
US. And it's like the same arena. I I wonder
how that stuff. You think there's a live of him
hitting his buttocks rubbed out?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Oh no, no, no, no, there's no And based on
the transcripts of what went down, I'm gonna go ahead
and passing any of those on any of the ability
to watch any of that stuff. I'm not really that
really interested to see.
Speaker 7 (04:14):
Yeah, get that elbow in there, just yeah, get that
thumb in there, yeah, thumbs yeah, fingers yeah, I'm uh oh,
and he played for the dogs like he played for
the dog.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
Yeah, that's a great point. It all ties together, uh sir.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
If anybody was interested and seeing how flexible cheeked, if
anybody's interested in seeing how flexible the brown starting quarterback was,
you can go try and find that tape somewhere. But nonetheless,
a new uh claim against Deshaun Watson came out this
(04:51):
week following that bag of vomit he rolled out in
Cleveland over the weekend against the Cowboys, and of course
he was going to be asked about it at the
second the media had an outpportunity to do so. The
first opportunity to do that was on Wednesday, and so
they asked him, listen, you know, how important is availability
for this team?
Speaker 3 (05:09):
And then also just the support he has received from
the organization.
Speaker 8 (05:13):
I mean it's very important, you know, availability is the
biggest is one of the biggest things. You got to
be available for your teammates to be out there to
go help win. So again, you know, I have to
focus on what today's brains and today is Wednesday and
getting ready for these meetings and for this practice, and
we'll have to see what happens. You know, I can't
(05:33):
speak for the fans. I can't speak for any anybody
outside this building, but I know that you know, hearing
from the Hasms and they be and those guys, I
know that they tell me Ehoon every day that they
you know, support me and it got my back and
that they want me to focus on being the best
quarterback I can be. That's all I can do is
just speak my truth, tell them the truth. They talk
with my legal team and everyone that was a part
(05:55):
of this whole process, and you know, they have to
make their decision, and that decision was to you know,
have give me an opportunity to come be the franchise quarterback.
Too helped his team win.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
So Tony Busby, who is the guy who has represented
all these women's, all these women in these lawsuits, He
released a statement saying they reached out to Deshaun Watson
in his camp ten months ago to try and get
the whole thing settled. There was pushback allegedly, and that's
why this stuff has come out public now. So they
(06:27):
tried a while back, and so now the conversation becomes, isn't.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
That called like extortion? Isn't there something to that? Like?
Isn't that blackmail? Or something like? Isn't there something to that?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
The problem though, is if it turns out that this
is true, or he settles or what like, there is
a chance that he is in violation of his contract
and the Browns can try and get out of whatever
the ninety plus million dollar is is he's got coming.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
The next We were right that the conversation we had
yesterday was was accurate.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, if he did not disclose this information, because Stefanskin
spoke yesterday and said I didn't know anything about it.
But again, we're letting the legal process play out and
we're following the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
So that's quite the dilemma to be in if you're
Deshaun Watson, because you can't just settle to make it
go away, right, because that could be grounds for the
Browns to move on him. Yes, well, so then that
means that he has to take into trial and I mean,
which that wouldn't I mean, how long would that take?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, there's and there's gonna be the appeal. There's gonna
be like it. And really what there's also the other
aspect of it, where if the NFL punishes him, that's
you know, a violation of the you know, player conduct policy.
That could also possibly be in violation of the contract
as well too. And so I look at the whole
situation and we curious. Man, Look, we don't know how
(07:48):
this is going to play out.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
But here's what we do know.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
We know that we've got a guy with a background,
We've got poor play on the field, We've got potential
burner accounts, which is all just haha whatever, and who
knows if it's even true. You've got a video out
of like fans in the parking lot from a woman
who was doing some interviews with people saying that they
(08:13):
were given sweet tickets from Deshaun Watson's agent to try
and come up to the suite you know, not I
mean not so much, you know, for some of the
extra curriculars, but more so to try and the optics,
you know, curry favor with the fans and show like hey, listen,
we need some support. Like there's been some rumblings out
there that maybe there's some people out there that have
(08:34):
been paid or been given things to try and support,
like they're trying really hard to change the narrative and
discussion around him. Meanwhile, the play on the field is terrible,
and it's been terrible this entire time, and at some point,
like when are we just going to stop and just
take a step back and say it's over? Dude, Like
(08:57):
his time as being a franchise caliber quarterback in the
NFL and being somebody that you would build your organization
around is probably over. I mean it's been four years
since we've seen that level of football from him, Like
what do we But he doesn't have to have that
level of football. I know that's sport. So what it is?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
What you mean it's over for? It ain't over for
just get started. It's over. It's over. And maybe starting
as a quarterback, and this is the part that's so mindful,
go somewhere else and be a backup in pad like
a zillion dollars more than the Persson's start in front
of him.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
And this is the part that's so mind boggling about
all of it, like he could be just average. They're
so pot committed to him. All he has to do
is just not be a weirdo, Like, dude, just don't
be a creep, like like, that's it, and you're gonna
make two hundred and thirty million dollars for being an
(09:56):
average quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
You can't do anything about it. But technically, for what
it's worth, maybe he hasn't been a freak or a
weirdo since everything has happened. I would agree he just
ain't balling and that's it. And that's totally fine because
that the allegations aren't new allegations. They're old allegations.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
So if something like this pops up and it leads
to conversations and investigations and the NFL looking into it
and some sort of a punishment, the guy's going to
cost himself hundreds.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Of that's true. That now, that's true. That's like on
some Male Tucker type stuff, right, like, you got your contract,
you got your guarantee years, like, just just don't screw
it up. Just don't screw it up. There's no way
other than doing something that is a conduct detrimental to
(10:50):
the organization that could screw it up.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
It would be like if somebody had a winning lottery
ticket and he said, hey man, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
And then you went out and did something that got
you rested and put in jail for life.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Or like it's or this easy, like, hey man, you
got a winning lottery ticket. Just whatever you do, like
don't do the laundry with that thing in your pocket,
and then numb Nuts throws it in the washer and goes,
oh no, what do you do?
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Just like, don't be a weirdo. That's it. You got
two hundred and thirty million dollars, Like it's not the like,
so I'm like him, Bro, it's not the same. He
won that money. That money is going into his bank
account as we speak. Good god man, it's it's more
or less you. Why would you? Why would you put
(11:36):
yourself in a position where you're in default of that
type of compensation? And I think that that's that's to me,
he's said. Like I said, I don't think he even remembers.
He probably doesn't even remember all of the people that
he's had these experiences with, Like if you think about it,
(11:57):
which is kind of wild, because can you call it,
like can you all and weird for forgetting somebody that
he was dealing with. If you've dealt with so many
people like I thought, I told you guys, everybody that
what I had this type of interaction with It's like, hey,
remember that one cup of coffee you had? No I
thought I found so many I but then now here
(12:19):
you want to know, when I was looking at this
story and I was thinking about it, I know we're
up on the break, but this is what it made
me think. Jonas listening to this account and the details
of what took place here, there's a strong possibility that
every sexual encounter that Deshaun Watson has had could be
(12:43):
put on blast. Oh jeez, because this was not about
it being him going to a therapist. This was a date.
So now it's crossed over from I was getting, you know, therapy,
to now this was something that was personally driven. He
went to pick her up, He went to go on
(13:05):
a date. He came up in there because she was
still getting ready. He found himself butt naked, face down
on her bed while she was still putting her makeup on.
Like this now crosses this now crosses categories. So now
what's happened is by buzzby putting this out there and
this going out into the world, whatever happens in terms
(13:29):
of if he settles, he could be facing this same
situation over and over and over and over again. If
it's based off of his sexual or dating experiences with
the people that are out there. It's just so weird.
(13:52):
That's a lot. That's I mean, that man has got
to be living in paranoia every single day.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Bro. And by the way, so you know, stiff Fansky
was interviewed yesterday, of course, and they're gonna ask him
about it, and he's just kind of like, hey, we're
focused on At some point, Stefansky's got to be fed
up with this crap, Like, dude, what like what is
going on here? Like, like, can we just like it's
one thing to like work through some struggles. He didn't
play in the preseason coming off an injury, we get it,
(14:19):
but like you can't even like the body's not even
cold on the game. That was a disaster, and then
you've got this thrown on top of it, and people
aren't focused in on talking about the game now.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
The focus is now on what's next for this this situation,
And again, everybody's going to try to figure out the
timing of it, The timing of it is just curious, man,
very peculiar. Why now like week one, like he goes
out there, he lays an egg. We don't know if
(14:52):
he's going, like Q said yesterday, listen this week one,
we don't know if he's gonna hitch stride or not.
Doesn't seem like he's going to trend up kind of.
He's been who he's been when he's had his opportunities.
I mean, that's debatable, but I don't think he's been
anything special since since coming to Cleveland, and he hasn't
been available. So whatever reason that is or excuses that
(15:15):
may be given, it is what it is. But that's
the truth nonetheless. But Jonas, I'm telling you, if I'm Stefanski,
you have to be thinking about what you're going to
do in order to keep the confusion and the noise
of this at the minimum, because this is one of
(15:35):
those This is one of them stories where I know
how locker rooms are, man, they're unforgiving. There may be
some dudes that support Deshaun Watson fiercely and intensely, like
as a teammate, as a friend. There's gonna be dudes
in that locker room that every time he cost them
a game or doesn't play well, they're gonna be like,
(15:56):
you need to go get your butts rub, bro, you
need some butt rubs? Is your butt hurt? Huh? You
need some thumbs? Need little elbow acts? And what what?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
What you need?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
What you need out? And they going they're they're not
going to give him passes on all the things that
are taking place out here. And I wonder I'd be
curious to know if if some of the identities of
these people are you know, connected with some of the
other people within the industry of sport. You know, maybe
(16:29):
people know these these people that that he's interacted with, like.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like some of these people aren't even massuses like correct
like this, Like the woman this just chicks that you
meet out. Yeah, he met her at a restaurant bar.
She was a single mother. I think she might have
worked at the restaurant or bar. And then you know,
he got frustrated because he couldn't find her apartment and said,
I don't have time for this and became angry. And
then he showed up to the place and she was
(16:54):
putting her makeup on, and then she comes out and
you know, he's doing faced downs.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Yeah, doing the worm. You know, I'm talking about break dancing, man,
I got you yeah, not where you was at a
little solo twister, which is bad because this is so
bad that way that you could actually interpret it that way.
That's so weird.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Man.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Well listen, hey, I didn't pick them to go to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I know that, I know that I want them to
be good, so bad man, this might be a tough
year for Ohio.
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Later on.
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Oh what?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
We're also going to have a parlay party coming up
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So ESPN had this long article that came out yesterday
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from Don Van Atta Junior, who does great work, but
it was all about how Bob Kraft you know Robert Craft,
you know Bobby or Bobby. Yeah, he has been trying
to get into the Hall of Fame and has been
unsuccessful to do so. And one of the things that
is interesting, I just I love it when rich people
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and powerful people fight. I don't know why. It just
warms my heart. But he's upset and apparently he's from
frustrated that Jerry Jones is already in the Hall of
Fame and he's not. And one of the quotes from
this that he told a confidant was that quote, he
hasn't been to the NFC title game in two decades
and he gets in. He also went on to say,
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how does that work? Which is fair?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Is fair?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I mean, all of that is fair, But I do
wonder why he's not gotten in, and maybe it does
have something to do with whatever happened that, you know,
orchards of Asia, which you know, not to make this
entire first half of the show an our one all
about people who've got got things about getting massages, But like,
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what would be the problem with him getting in? Is
it the spygate? Is it, you know, the deflated footballs?
I mean, the credentials are there like we've never seen before.
Yet he's still on the outside looking in, and apparently.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
You hold him out because of the massage parlor. I
don't think so, because if you're not going to hold
him out because of that parlor, that you can't you
can't deny that he's ran an organization that is arguably
one of the greatest franchise runs dynasty runs ever in
(21:17):
the history of sport, not just not just football. It
could be the best. I mean, I'm pretty certain it's
the best run, best dynasty dynasty run in the league. Right.
I don't think anybody out did that what they've done.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
No.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, and considering they basically had three or two
dynasties to where you had the first run and then
you had the second one like those were, like there
was this period of time where they hadn't won a
Super Bowl close to ten years, right when they got
back and there was that Super Bowl Seattle and so
to get back to that point. But it's almost like
(21:54):
it I wonder if some of this is based on
the fact that he hasn't been a visible, I guess, talkative,
like out in front owner like Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
That can't be what it is because there's that. I mean,
that's not going to be the catalyst of an owner,
all right, So let me let's like just think about
it like this. If I were to tell you, all right,
name me the most important people of the Patriots dynasty,
(22:27):
like you would say Brady and Belichick, or to say,
name me the most important people of the Cowboys dynasty,
like Jerry Jones is on that list. You're something you
wouldn't mention. Bob Kraft.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
I don't think you would like who. I just think
it's he's not as out in me.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
I don't think that's going to be Just like with Dallas,
I don't think the first name would be Jerry Jones. No,
I don't think I think he would say his name
because he is so vocal and he is so out front.
But a lot of people look at the whole old
conversation surrounding Jerry Jones at this point is that he
couldn't handle the fact that Jimmy Johnson created a winner,
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and he wanted to be able to create a winner,
and that's what he's been chased. He's been chasing that
ghost ever since Jimmy Johnson left. To me, I almost
look at it from the standpoint of understanding the dynamic
that Jerry Jones had with that team and with the
(23:28):
coach and with the media. Sure, he put he puts
himself out there and he's out there for public consumption
more so than any other owner that that we've ever
heard of. But with that being said, you look at
Robert Craft. Robert Kraft was walking around with celebrities. Robert
Kraft was walking around wearing Air Force ones. Robert Craft
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kind of got integrated into hip hop culture. So people
know who Robert Craft is. People have seen Robert Craft around.
Robert Craft hasn't been a media person, but he has
spoken in the media. He has had things to say.
There have been a lot of things that have been
(24:10):
relevant that have come from him through the years just
because of the success of his franchise. So I wouldn't
say I wouldn't say he had to be as outgoing
as in front of the cameras and on the inner
webs and on social or on a weekly hit on
a radio show for his profile to be large enough
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to make it into the Hall of Fame. I think
people knew know enough about Robert Kraft what his involvement was.
You could tell that his presence was felt by by
Belichick and by Brady, and his ability to allow Bill
Belichick to be who Bill Belichick ultimately was for the Patriots,
(24:58):
allowed it to become what it with Tom Brady for
the Patriots, with a host of other players that they
brought in that helped them to win. I can't see
how you're not putting him. He hasn't gone into the
Hall of Fame. If it's not a conduct reason, if
it's just being a dope ass owner with results, how
(25:21):
do you keep him out. He's got more Super Bowls
than any other owner.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
I just and there's also yeah, like if you were
to try and find a reason why, then maybe more
superb and then conduct would make me make the most sense.
Like Okay, well, maybe that, but that's I don't know
that anybody like, yeah, we'll bring it up, but I
don't know, Like there was a lot of other people
involved in that. There was like a pro golfer who
got caught up in that and it was you know,
(25:48):
like I get it. It wasn't a good look. But
you know, it's not like Jerry Jones has had, you know,
squeaky clean stories off the field.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
I mean, he just had you know, he's already but
he's already in now.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
It's like, I do wonder why because and apparently it
bothered Bob Kraft that Jerry Jones got in before him.
So they've got this rivalry.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
They've got this that's just between the two of them,
don't you feel like I'll say this, for the popularity
and the legitimacy that continues to grow with the NFL,
I would say Jerry Jones's presence has been more valuable
to the brand the Shield itself than even the Dallas Cowboys.
(26:37):
And that's probably the separation, not the media aspect of
Jerry Jones, It's the Jerry Jones drives the Shield. Jerry
Jones is a lightning rod and an influencer for the
National Football League and both the media in front of fans,
(26:57):
but probably as an ambassador, probably as as a businessman
behind the closed doors. That's Jerry Jones's influence is ultimately
what I would say what separates him from from Robert Kraft.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
And also, look like we can sit here and poke
fun at Jerry Jones loves the attention, He's got an ego.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
All of that is true.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Guy works his ass off, Like I mean, he's doing interviews,
he's talking to the media, he's always available. He's pushing
the you know, the league to go places and you know,
the team's coming to LA Like Jerry Jones is the
guy that was working with the other owners to try
and get it done. Like he has power and influence
in the league that Robert Kraft doesn't. And so what
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he's done for the league is on a level that
we've maybe never seen before. And it's why. Look, the
Cowboys are the first ever franchise valued at over ten
billion dollars. That's never happened.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
That's the difference. And so the difference it's just it is.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
And this is what I think of. We're gonna find doubt,
all right, if the Cowboys coaching job opens up after
this season, which you know who the hell knows. But
let's just hypothetically say Mike McCarthy is gone. We're gonna
find out everything we need to know about Belichick and
Craft's relationship if Belichick takes the Cowboys job, you think,
(28:19):
because that would be an f you and kiss my
ass to Robert Kraft. If he took Bill par Sales
did the same thing, okay, and like that did not
you know, I I don't think that those two are
on on great terms right. I don't think there there's
any animosity zones right with your with I'm talking about Robert.
(28:41):
I don't know that they left on good terms and
Dallas either. But I look at it and I go,
how much would that irk Robert Kraft if Belichick was
able to go elsewhere?
Speaker 3 (28:53):
And when yes, I mean it seems like now knowing
what we know about the relationship a little bit more
and understanding that there were some you know, kind of
relationship challenges, I guess it would would irk him a lot.
(29:15):
I guess it would bother him a lot. If Bill
Belichick I didn't think when you guys, you and Q
were saying he was trying to block him from getting
different jobs, try to block him from getting the Atlanta job,
try to block them from getting other jobs. I thought
that was preposterous to hear y'all say that, and then
it kind of comes out a little bit, you know,
(29:37):
in the media, like yeah, like he was like politics
and like to keep this dude from getting the job.
That's strange to me, because my whole thing is Bill
Belichick has coached as a head coach before in the
National Football League. He did not have that success that
he had with the New England Patriots. There's a strong,
(30:03):
very very very very very very strong possibility that Bill
Belichick may never regain form like he did with with
the New England bag.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I can almost guarantee he wont good luck.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
So yeah, why even risk your own reputation because if
he goes somewhere and has success, you can ultimately say
I helped Bill Belichick create the blueprint of how to
win at the national football level.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Because he wants the all time wins record. And again
this goes back to ego. Apparently him and Don Shula,
he's not they were not crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
But you're talking about Bill Belichick's So my whole thing
is again, if I'm Robert Kraft, why would you be
worried about if Bill Belichick coaches, if he wins, you
take credit if you want, if you want to get
in the Hall of Fame, you'd be like, you know what,
Bill Belichick didn't learn what he needed to know about
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how to run a team that wins championships the way
that they do or the way they did in New
England until he was with me. You can do that
as the owner and can't nobody say nothing about it
because it's your purse that was paying everybody that was
employed that was a part of that amazing time for
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that franchise. So what are you worried for? What is
your issue with Bill Belichick going somewhere and having more success.
It seems like to me that's more vindictive if you
don't want him to go somewhere else and coach. It's
more like if you're not going to coach for me,
you're not coaching for anyone like this has already happened.
(31:49):
You constant me Tom. I didn't want to let Tom go.
We had to lose Tom cause of your ass. Now
you want to go somewhere else and coach, I don't
think so I already had this. I don't want it.
That's more vindictive. I don't think it's more you know,
oh well, I don't think it's anything else, don't. I
(32:09):
really don't. So if that's the case, if Jerry Jones
wants to stick it to Robert Kraft, I still don't
think that. I don't think Belichick does enough for the
Cowboys in that scenario, in that situation for it to
ever be relevant enough for him to thumb and throw
(32:31):
it up into Robert Kraft's face. I just don't.
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Good morning everybody, Good morning Jonas, Good morning LeVar. Who
needs Brady? We got Tim and Darren in the house.
Good morning everybody, guys. Case you missed this, what's hey, guys?
In case you missed this, Right down the street, from here.
Reggie Bush successfully stopped a frightening home invasion. That is, uh,
(35:21):
hey Brady, that is I don't know why they need
to put this in there. His six million dollar mansion
down the street. And then Sino Reggie Bush chase the
guys off. Good for you, Reggie Bush.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Nice.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Just be safe out here, man, and trying to hear
about Reggie Bush chase them off, and then they chased
him back. And then you know what happened to be
careful out here?
Speaker 1 (35:41):
Man? I mean, what do people going to learn their lesson?
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Man?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Didn't that guy in a Gore Hills who lit up
those two uh you know, it was like a Chilean
like armed robbery mob that was like showing up at
houses robbing houses. And this guy was like a former
box right.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
In the sixties, loaded off. They were fouling against him,
like the.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
Guy They showed the mugshot of the guy he beat up,
and the guy looked like he had fallen off a building.
Like they just got completely annihilated. But people are still
playing this game. Okay, we're just gonna break into homes,
all right, good luck with that.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
You must be willing to risk it all man, cause
some people ain't throwing hands. That's all I'll say. Oh
what else? I know how that goes? Guys.
Speaker 9 (36:29):
In case you missed this, uh called BS on this
or not, Joe Buck's wife just had a successful surgery
on her ankle after he drove a golf ball into it,
much like Brady Quinn.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
You gotta be kidding me.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
You have a golf ball or a golf cart, a
golf ball, drove it off the tee anywhere, he said,
and you gave that as.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
What Brady should use as his story, right, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, I think I threw it out.
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Because he said, puck into the ale. You said golf ball, Yeah,
that's that is wow? Crazy right, shattered her ankle, I mean,
get better soon. Swinging a club for him, damn
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