September 12, 2024 • 46 mins
Today on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, Deshaun Watson speaks for the first time since the new allegations against him. Aaron Rodgers is out of line telling Jets fans how to feel and TheMMQB’s Albert Breer joins the guys to talk Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, the Steelers QB situation and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:55):
Unk was growling on him.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
He was dropping the growl on him.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, I can assure you that will not be audio
on the show. No Brady Quinn. Uh so, obviously you're
aware of Brady's ankle issue. He thought it was going
to be the safe play to just go ahead and
take a bunch of peds. Unfortunately pissed hot. So no
(01:31):
Brady Quinn here on the Today you.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Get that ankle together, So listen.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
We will not let an injury let you get away
with performance and answers here.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
You think you take his ankle with barking like they
took the.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Sound on Q's ankle.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
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I meant, considering what we're going to get into to
start off the segment, away we go, we go. Hey,
(02:14):
you know, apparently Shannon Sharp was unaware that he was
on IG Live, and uh.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I just don't buy that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Next thing, you know, they were at the batting cages.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And uh batter up, Michelle up to the plate. Whoever,
so hey better better better swing no matter, no matter,
no matter, no stick. That happens to the best of us.
(02:44):
But you got one of them.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't have no live sex tape out there. I
tell you that, I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I just you know, wasn't wasn't expecting that to be
the turn we took midweek following Week one in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I mean I also probably wasn't expecting you know, the
situation to uh veer off the tracks as quickly as
it did in Cleveland based.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And it's like the same arena. I mean, I wonder
how that stuff. Yeah, you think there's a live of
him hitting his buttocks rubbed out?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Oh no, no, no, no, there's no that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And based on the transcripts of what went down, I'm
gonna go ahead and passing any of those on any
of the ability to watch any of that stuff, I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Not really that really interested to see.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Yeah, get that elbow in there, just yeah, get that
thumb in there, yeah, thumbs yeah, fingers yeah, I'm uh oh,
and he played for the dogs like he played for
the dog.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, that's a great point. It all ties together. Uh so, Yeah,
if anybody was interested and seeing how flexible if anybody's
interested in seeing how flexible the brown starting quarterback was,
you can go try and find that tape somewhere. But nonetheless,
(04:07):
a new claim against Deshaun Watson came out this week
following that bag of vomit he rolled out in Cleveland
over the weekend against the Cowboys, and of course he
was going to be asked about at the second the
media had an opportunity to do so. The first opportunity
to do that was on Wednesday, and so they asked him. Listen,
you know how important is availability for this team and
(04:30):
then also just the support he has received from the organization.
Speaker 8 (04:33):
I mean it's very important. You know, availability is the
biggest is one of the biggest things. You got to
be available for your teammates to be out there to
go help win. So again, you know, I have to
focus on what today brains, and today is Wednesday and
getting ready for these meetings and for this practice, and
we'll have to see what happens now. I can't speak
(04:54):
for the fans. I can't speak for any anybody outside
of this building, but I know that you know here
and for the Hasms and AB and those guys, I
know that they tell me echo every day that they
you know, support me and got my back and that
they want me to focus on being the best quarterback
I can be. That's all I can do is just
speak my truth, tell them the truth. They talked with
my legal team and everyone that was a part of
(05:16):
this whole process, and you know, they have to make
the decision, and that decision was to you know, have
give me the opportunity to come be their franchise quarterback
to help his team win.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So Tony Buzby, who is the guy who has represented
all these women's all these women in these lawsuits. He
released a statement saying they reached out to Deshaun Watson
in his camp ten months ago to try and get
the whole thing settled. There was pushback, allegedly, and that's
why this stuff has come out public now. So they
(05:48):
tried a while back, and so now the conversation becomes, isn't.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
That called like extortion? Isn't there something to that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Isn't that blackmail or something like? Isn't there something to that?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The problem though, is if it turns out that this
is true or he settles or what like, there is
a chance that he is in violation of his contract
and the Browns can try and get out of whatever
the ninety plus million dollar is is he's got coming the.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Next So that the conversation we had yesterday was was accurate.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, if he did not disclose this information, because Stefanskin
spoke yesterday and said I didn't know anything about it.
But again, we're letting the legal process play out and
we're following the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So that's quite the dilemma to be in if you're
Deshaun Watson, because you can't just settle to make it
go away, right, because that could be grounds for the
Browns to move on him. Yes, well, so then that
means that he has to take it to trial. And
I mean which that wouldn't I mean, how long would
that take?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, there's and there's gonna be the appeal. There's gonna
be like it and really what there's also the other
aspect of it where if the NFL punishes him, that's
you know, a violation of the you know, player conduct policy.
That could also possibly be in violation of the contract
as well too, And so I look at the whole
situation and we clurious. Man, Look, we don't know how
(07:09):
this is going to play out. But here's what we
do know. We know that we've got a guy with
a background, We've got poor play on the field, We've
got potentially burner accounts, which is all just haha whatever,
and who knows if it's even true. You've got a
video out of like fans in the parking lot from
(07:30):
a woman who was doing some interviews with people saying
that they were given sweet tickets from Deshaun Watson's agent
to try and come up to the suite.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know, not, I mean not so much.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
You know for some of the extra curriculars, but more
so to try and the optics, you know, curry favor
with the fans and show like, hey, listen, we need
some support. Like there's been some rumblings out there that
maybe there's some people out there that have been paid
or been given things to try and support, like they
trying really hard to change the narrative and discussion around him. Meanwhile,
(08:05):
the play on the field is terrible, and it's been
terrible this entire time, and at some point, like when
are we just gonna stop and just take a step
back and say it's over? Dude, Like his time as
being a franchise caliber quarterback in the NFL and being
somebody that you would build your organization around is probably over.
(08:30):
I mean it's been four years since we've seen that
level of football from him.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Like what do we But he doesn't have to have
that level of football? I know that's the part. What
you mean it's over for it ain't just get started.
It says over, it's over, and maybe starting as a
quarterback and this is the part that's so mindful somewhere
else and be a backup in path like a zillion
dollars more than the persons starting in front of him.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And this is the part that's so mind boggling about
all of it, Like he could be just average. They're
so pot committed to him. All he has to do
is just not be a weirdo, Like, dude, just don't
be a creep like like, that's it, and you're gonna
make two hundred and thirty million dollars for being an
(09:17):
average quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You can't do anything about it. But technically, for what
it's worth, maybe he hasn't been a freak or a
weirdo since everything is happened, I would agree he's just
ain't ballin and that's it. And that's totally fine because
that the allegations aren't new allegations. They're old allegations.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
So if something like this pops up and it leads
to conversations and investigations and the NFL looking into it
and some sort of a punishment, the guy's gonna cost
himself hundreds of.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
True that, now, that's true. That's like on some Male
Tucker type stuff, right, like, you got your contract, you
got your guarantee years. Just just don't screw it up. Just
don't screw it up, like you. Literally, there's no way
other than doing something that is a conduct detrimental to
the organization that could screw it up.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It would be like if somebody had a winning lottery
ticket and he said, hey man, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And then you went out and did something that got
you arrested and put in jail for life, or.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like it's just or this easy, like, hey man, you
got a winning lottery ticket. Just whatever you do, like,
don't do the laundry with that thing in your pocket.
And then numb Nuts throws it in the washer and goes,
oh no, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, don't be a weirdo. That's it. You got two
hundred and thirty million dollars, Like, it's not the like.
So I'm like him, bro, it's not the same. He
won that money. That money is going into his bank
account as we speak. Good god man, it's it's more
or less you. Why would you? Why would you put
(10:56):
yourself in a position where you're in default of that
type of compensation. And I think that that's that's to me.
He's like I said, I don't think he even remembers.
He probably doesn't even remember all of the people that
he's had these experiences with like if you think about it,
(11:17):
which is kind of wild because can you call like,
can you call him where for forgetting somebody that he
was dealing with? If you've dealt with so many people
like I thought, I told you guys, everybody that what
I had this type of interaction with It's like, hey,
remember that one cup of coffee you had? No, I thought,
that's not so many I but then now here you
(11:40):
want to know. When I was looking at this story
and I was thinking about it, I know we're up
on the break, but this is what it made me think.
Jonas listening to this account and the details of what
took place here, there's a strong possibility that every sexual
encount on her that Deshaun Watson has had could be
(12:03):
put on blast. Jeez, because this was not about it
being him going to a therapist. This was a date.
So now it's crossed over from I was getting, you know, therapy,
to now this was something that was personally driven. He
went to pick her up, He went to go on
(12:25):
a date. He came up in there because she was
still getting ready. He found himself butt naked, face down
on her bed while she was still putting her makeup
on like this now crosses this now crosses categories. So
now what's happened is by buzzby putting this out there
and this going out into the world, whatever happens. In
(12:50):
terms of if he settles, he could be facing this
same situation over and over and over and over again.
If it's based off of his sexual or dating experiences
with the people that are out there. It's just so weird.
(13:13):
That's a lot, that's I mean, that man has got
to be living in paranoia every single day.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And by the way, so you know, Stefanski was interviewed yesterday,
of course, and they're gonna ask him about it, and
he's just kind of like, hey, we're focused on At
some point, Stefansky's got to be fed up with this crap, Like, dude,
what like what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like, like can.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We just like it's one thing to like work through
some struggles. He didn't play in the preseason coming off
an injury, we get it, but like you can't even
like the body's not even cold on the game that
was a disaster, and then you've got this thrown on
top of it.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And people aren't focused in on talking about the game
now The focus is now on what what's next for
this this situation, and again everybody's going to try to
figure out the timing of it. The timing of it
is just curious, man, very peculiar. Why now like week one,
(14:09):
like he goes out there, he lays an egg. We
don't know if he's going, like Q said yesterday, listen
this week one, we don't know if he's gonna hitch
stride or not. Doesn't seem like he's going to trend up.
It's kind of he's been who he's been when he's
had his opportunities. I mean, that's debatable, but I don't
think he's been anything special since since coming to Cleveland,
(14:31):
and he hasn't been available. So whatever reason that is
or excuses that may be given, it is what it is.
But that's the truth. Nonetheless. But Jonas, I'm telling you,
if I'm Stefanski, you have to be thinking about what
you're going to do in order to keep the confusion
(14:51):
and the noise of this at a minimum, because this
is one of those this is one of them stories
where I know how locker rooms are, man, they're unforgiving.
There may be some dudes that support Deshaun Watson fiercely
and intensely, like as a teammate, as a friend, there's
gonna be dudes in that locker room that every time
(15:12):
he cost them a game or doesn't play well, they're
gonna be like, you need to go get your butts
rub bru. You need you need some butt rubs? Is
your butt hurt?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You need some thumbs, need little elbow actions?
Speaker 6 (15:25):
What what? What?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You need? What you need out And they're going they're
they're not going to give him passes on all the
things that are taking place out here. And I wonder
I'd be curious to know if if some of the
identities of these people are you know, connected with some
of the other people within the industry of sport. You know,
(15:49):
maybe people know these these people that that he's interacted with.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Like like some of these people aren't even masseuses like
correct like this, Like the woman just chicks that you
meet out. Yeah, he met her at a restaurant bar.
She was a single mother. I think she might have
worked at the restaurant or bar. And then you know,
he got frustrated because he couldn't find her apartment and said,
I don't have time for this and became angry. And
(16:13):
then he showed up to the place and she was
putting her makeup on, and then she comes out and
you know he's doing face downs, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Doing the worm.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Know I'm talking about break dancing, man, I got you Yeah,
not where you was at. Yeah, a little solo twister,
which is bad because this is so bad that way
that you could actually interpret it that way. That's so weird.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Man.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well listen, hey, I didn't pick him to go to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I know that. I know that.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I want them to be good, so bad man, this
might be a tough year for Ohio.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
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Speaker 3 (18:01):
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Speaker 5 (18:08):
In the sky.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I get it right now, up to the east side.
We finally got up piece something. Yeah, you got one
last night to need it. You got me some banana pie? Yeah,
where is it? I don't know. Forgot all about it.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I planted on eating it. A few things are fuzzy
for me from yesterday, man, Like I had a good time.
I was hanging out with my man Steve Khim yesterday.
Shots out to Big Steve. We was talking shop man.
But while we was talking shop, we was drinking Casamigo's
Moscow uh and pineapple. And before you knew it, we
(18:56):
had just had like four or five of them, or
maybe six doubles.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So when I saw y'all, when I got to y'all,
I was trying to like clear my head, get myself back,
you know, to where I needed to get myself too.
So I forgot about that path. Yeah, it's not that
I didn't want to eat it, because when I when
I got it, I definitely was like, I'm going to
enjoy this pie.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
But you know, I forgot about it.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
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we were at the event yesterday hanging out with the
great folks from Rapid Radios, and a gentleman from the
restaurant that we were at came around and gave everybody
a card for hey, next time you're here, a free
nana cream pie. I guess it's like they're what they're
known for. They do a really good banana cream pie.
And so Levar's like, well, yeah, let me cash my card,
(20:09):
and now i'd like next time I come back. So
I walked out right now, So I walk out of
the restaurant with you and your wife. You're holding on
to this pie like you've got the Golden ticket from
Willie Walka.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Then you never ate damn.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
So that things just somewhere.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, I have my card if you want to,
if you want to go back and get an that one.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Appreciate.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Oh man, Well, listen, it was a good time.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
It was a good time.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It was. But here's what wasn't fun. Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The New York Jets, who got exposed and battered around
by the San Francisco forty nine ers, even with Christian
McCaffrey out backup Jordan Mason stepped in and ran all
over him. Now, Robert Solid did promise in talking with
the me yesterday he has no concerns about the defense.
That will get fixed and that really was the issue.
(21:05):
Was the defense was the problem. No concerns whatsoever. He
feels like it is definitely going to get fixed. Aaron
Rodgers has also taken a similar approach, like, hey, listen,
people got to calm down. Everything's going to be okay.
Let's listen to Rodgers yesterday.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
I think we always got to stay relaxed. It's a
long season. I think at times people think the season
is like you're out in the prairie or the desert
and you're wandering around trying to find water. But it's
more like a nice slow ballero, you know, where we're
just swaying with the music and reacting to whatever comes
through comes to us and through us, and just trying
(21:42):
to not get too high with the highs or too
low with the lows. The league is a lot different
than what I said and relax years ago in that
there's just so much more coverage, that there's so much
more opportunity for overreaction.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I mean, that's not wrong, No, it's not. He's so
sophisticated in his approach, you know what I mean, Like
like he's so enlightened, very elevated. It's a very measured guy.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
All right, but you better win soon. You better win soon,
because let me tell you something that ain't Green Bay Jack,
that's New York and that this league is different than
the times when you say relaxed, you damn right. But
I'll tell you what ain't different. New York media. They
always been on that ass. If you win your hero.
(22:31):
If you don't, you are the hell, and they will
get all up in it. Believe you me, you don't deliver.
They got you, We got you. So he went to
the right market in order to try to whatever it is,
bolster boost whatever he's doing in his career, which who
knows why that is even necessary, but it is what
(22:55):
it is. They have Tennessee this week. Tennessee. Tennessee is
a team that, in my estimation, could vary. I won't
say easily. They could beat this Jets team. They have enough,
(23:15):
they have enough defense where they can win a game
against a Jets team at home. And so, like I
said on Monday or Tuesday, if this team can't go
into Nashville and get a win against Tennessee, I know
(23:40):
we didn't. We said don't panic after week one, and
I agree with that. There's no reason to panic after
week one.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well unless you the Browns.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I wouldn't even panic. If I'm the Browns just yet,
only team i'd say you should panic, but you should
already have been panicking anyways, Carolina, that's the only team.
You said. There be a team that does worse than now.
I don't remember what team that was. You said, Jah, Yeah,
it's gonna mess around and be two. I just do
(24:10):
not feel as though if if this and listen to
games is a small sample size, but if they can't
go in and win against the Tennessee Titans in week two,
it could it could get pretty interesting for the New
York Jets, and they could get really interesting for Aaron Rodgers,
And it could get super super interesting for Robert Salah,
(24:33):
Like does he even make it through the season? Like
is his is it? Now? The clock is ticking on
what day he's going to be canned as the head
coach of the New York Jets, Like think about it?
They so they have the Titans, then they have the Packers.
Oh no, excuse me, that's the Titans. Let me let
(24:55):
me go back to the Jets. The Jets have the
Titans coming up, and then I do believe they have
the Patriots. Right, yep, they had the Patriots, which that
now turns into a ridiculously big game.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
The Jets could potentially be coming into a game with
a divisional rival that was estimated to be a trash team,
and the roles could be reversed. You could have a
two and oh Patriots team going against a O and
two Jets team in Week three.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, you could. I think the Jets will win this weekend.
But here's this is what I would say.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You think that the Cleveland Browns are going to win
the AFC North.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I never said that. I picked the Bengals, trust me,
that's what they lost to doing it. I agree, Like
that's a I don't feel great about that at this
point in time. But I will say this, So you
and I live in southern California, which would you say
that we're spoiled by really good Mexican food out here?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (26:00):
All right?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
So like we like I've had it in a different place,
and so the bar for us out here is very high,
very high.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
All right.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You know it's a great place to be the only
or average Mexican food place in Alaska. You don't know
why because the bar is real low, Like there's no
other spot in town. So you could roll out whatever
you want to.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Get in avocados in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Figure it out like like like, buy a pair and
tell everybody it's an avocado. They're not getting another difference cares.
But the point is if the bars low, it changes
the way you feel about things. If the Jets win
ten games this year, would you consider that a success
for the Jets?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yes, for the Jets, yes, And that's the point. But
that's not is that what they're being measured on internally.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
But the point is they've done that once in the
last fifteen years. So maybe they won't be a super
Bowl team, but they're gonna be in contention for a
playoff spot. They might even be a wild card team,
and based whatever the hell happens in the AFCs, who knows,
maybe they'll compete for the division they're not, but don't
I don't look at the Jets and go, man, what
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we saw on Monday Night football. That's a problem because
this doesn't look like a super Bowl team. My bar
for the Jets isn't the super Bowl. My bar for
the Jets is just be better than you've been the
last fifteen years. And that's a low place to be,
and I think they can pull that off.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
And that's like a horrible approach.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Like you didn't bring in Aaron Rodgers, you didn't draft
the way you draft, you don't have the you know
which about the way Tyrant's Tyron Smith was fricking a
costing Nick Bosa like talk about legally or illegally, I
mean it was both. They should have came and arrested
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him after that football game, the way he was holding
and grabbing that man. I just really think that you
can't say that winning ten games or making it to
the wild card is good enough when you've done what
you've done, not even mentioned, not even to mention the
fact that where you brought with Robert sala from and
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how well he was doing with the San Francisco forty
nine ers when they went and got him. I just
don't think that you have expectations that are based upon
a bar being set so low that you can exceed
that bar, especially in the New York market. I just
don't think that works. I really don't. I don't think
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that's the way. I don't think that plays out well.
But I've not been on the New York Jets bandwagon
to begin with, so regardless of anything, I just don't see.
I'm not a believer that again, that talent can outperform dysfunction.
And from all things I've heard and I've seen, this
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looks like a classic one of those franchises that is
a dysfunction franchise top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I mean, if you're a Jets fan and you really
believed that that you're in contention for a Super Bowl
this year, then you've got the iq of a spork
like like stop, like the you're you should just be
trying to have a successful run. Like look the Rex
Ryan years. We can you know, poke fun and all
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that stuff, but they were in AFC title games a
couple of times. I believe, back to back years like
this idea that they're going to dictate what is deemed
success and we hold them to a high bar, Like
what high bar?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Like the Giants.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I can understand there's super Bowls there the Jets, there's not.
So if you're a Jets fan and you are, And
Rogers made the point and people kind of push back
on it to where he said, Hey, listen, if you're
a Jets fan and you think, you know, you want
to get out of here, and you don't you want
to jump off the boat, that's fine. You can leave now,
but don't come back. He should say that like, like who
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are you to determine?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
There?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Long enough?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But who are you to determine like what is considered
successful or not?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You wouldn't know. But he don't need to be attacking
a fan base that he's done absolutely zero for thus far.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know if that makes sense. I don't know
if it was attacking. And more so, just like listen,
like let's threading threatening?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
What what is that? Rebuttaling? Refuting?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
What?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
What?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
He don't need this? Like that's not the road he
needs to go down where he's at right now.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Hey, you want to be on this boat. Come on,
if you don't go swim with the sharks, go out
there and go.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Try swimming with them anyway, like that boat might be
taking on water.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Jets are gonna be fine. Okay, you go, you know
you gotta you gotta stop being so negative all the time.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Well, I'm not. I'm just down on him. I'm not negative.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Just you know, ask me about a different team, I
might be different about him. That team in particular gives
me no reason to believe that the correlation of what
we've seen from this team is that they're trending up.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
By the way, you want to know who's got it
worse than them, So, Dave Canalis, who's the head coach
of the panthersh you know, David Tepper, the guy who
roughs up people at at bars and they have signs
out in front that are critical of the team and
then throws, you know, cups of acid on fans at
Jaguars games if they if they blew the team or
(31:24):
a hard time. So David Tepper, he has meetings with
coaches after every game. And so Dave Canalis said, Yeah,
I met with Dave and he was nothing but supportive
to me. Hey, buddy, let me tell you something we've heard.
If this continues to look like it did, like it's
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going to be another one and done for the Carolina,
Like David Tepper and the Carolina Panthers are veering towards
worst run organizations we've seen in the NFL a long time,
not saying from any scams or anything like that, because
because you would know being in Washington how that stuff
all played out, and I would know. Well, I'm just
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saying you were there a little bit me, man, right,
But we're talking.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Out on me.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Don't we speak that even on me?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Ricky Bobby, We're talking Matt Rule, We're talking Frank Reich,
We're talking Dave Canalis like they like he might actually
pull this.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Off and just got everybody.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And the guy who's gonna have to wear it is
Bryce Young, whose career is never going to take off
because he ended up in the worst situation.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
In the NFL and they'll call him a bus.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
So if you are a team out there, in an
organization out there, and you're frustrated with your franchise.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Just look at Carolina.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Could always be worse, that's it unless you're a Carolina
Panthers there. Yeah, And if you can't be worse, yeah,
not as an NFL team.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
If you are, go root for the Bobcats or whatever
they're called.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
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Speaker 5 (33:10):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Jonas?
Speaker 12 (33:11):
How you doing good?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
VARs here too, We're trying to make sense of.
Speaker 12 (33:16):
Brady is still like, uh, bracetill recovering from Saturday.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, no, no, it went bad to worse. So he
rolled his ankle playing soccer with his daughters. He thinks
he broke something. Yeah, so he's uh, but he's traveling
because he has some stuff to do for a big
noon in Madison.
Speaker 12 (33:33):
So so I guess, so, I guess even you, uh
you pro athletes are prone to old man injury is
the way the rest of us are.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Absolutely yeah, absolutely got to be careful out here, man.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
You know. Yeah, I mean I've enjured myself like stepping
on legos before.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So the pain, Yeah, my son dropped, there's.
Speaker 12 (33:53):
No there's no there's no pain like stepping in your
kids toy.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh it's the worst.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
My son dropped a monster truck on my face last
year while I was sleeping, so I had to show
up with a black eye, which is not fun. But
you know, things happened. You know, they're their kids.
Speaker 12 (34:07):
I remember, I remember, I like I was limping for
a week. This was when my kids were a little
younger because I stepped on the train station the Thomas
the tank engine. Yeah, it did not feel good.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
That sucks.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
All right, Well, we're trying to make sense of this,
the Deshaun Watson situation.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah that sucks. It's like, how does this play out?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Like if this turns out, is there a way that
if he just tries to settle, Like is there the
potential that the Browns could get out of this whole
thing based on this latest incident that Tony Busby says
he tried to get cleared up ten months ago, but
Deshaun Watson and his representatives pushed back on it, and
(34:55):
now here we are like what is your what do
you take away? What's your make of this whole situation?
Speaker 12 (35:01):
I mean it's you know, it's interesting because I think
there are two things like that really are at play
for you know, for the league here for the team here,
and like the first thing is that you know that
this is at this point not a criminal case, right like,
so you know, like how do you handle civil versus criminal?
(35:26):
You know, I this is not like related to this
particular situation, but you know there are always those cases
out there, and we've heard about them where like the
athlete you know has had his name dragged through the
mud and was exonerated, and you know, you like, these
leagues and these teams want to be careful in proceeding
(35:47):
with situations like this because they don't want to incentivize
people like filing civil cases against players.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Right.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
So that's one piece of it that like you know,
always I think you know it has over the last
years created caution for the league. The other thing that's
created a caution for the league in situations, but this is,
you know, like they've kind of gotten themselves in trouble
jumping in front of the legal process before, right so
before there's any sort of adjudication of the case, like
(36:14):
they'll do something and then they wind up with egg
on their face one way or the other, whether they
went too light or too hard. So you know, I
think they've taken a more cautious approach with this stuff
for those two reasons. You know, I really at this point,
it is so early in this stuff coming out, you
know that I think, you know, like the league and
(36:36):
the team are still kind of in fact finding mode.
And you know, obviously Deshawn's disclosure to the team is
an important element of this too. So there's just a
lot of moving pieces right now. And you know how
this what this winds up being three or four or
five months down the line, I don't know, you know,
And I think I got to respect the seriousness of
what's being charged here, Like you in charge is probably
(36:58):
the wrong word, like alleged here. You know, I think
you want to, you know, treat it with a lot
of seriousness, But I think it's way too early to
have any sort of definitive take.
Speaker 13 (37:08):
And where it's going.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It seems like it's a quarterbacks year. Abe, I'm trying
to decide which quarterback question? Why do I want to
go to Pittsburgh do I do I want to go
to a place like say New York. With what's going
on with Daniel Jones or with Aaron Rodgers. There's so
many different things going on with quarterbacks. This year, let's
(37:35):
let's let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. I guess I'll choose
Aaron Rodgers because there's a relevance here. They're they're playing
a divisional opponent and it's it's, uh, you know, it's
the Tennessee Titans that they're going to play. I did
not expect them to beat the forty nine ers. However,
(37:55):
I do expect them to beat the Titans. If they
do not beat these Titans. Does do you get the
feeling that Aaron Rodgers understands the compromising position he could
find himself in being in the media market that he's in,
because some people don't really understand that, and he's late
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in his career. Do you think he has an idea
of how much pressure there is to win this next game,
just this next game.
Speaker 12 (38:26):
Yeah, you know, it's actually interesting what our talked to
him about this about I don't know, two three weeks ago,
about playing in New York and the difference between playing
in New York and playing in Green Bay and you know,
the fish bowl that you live in, and you know,
I really got the sense he embraces that part of
it and like he wants that part of it that
(38:47):
like he understands like everybody. I mean, the way he
put it to me is like everyone's on the hot
seat every year in the NFL, and no one's job's
ever secure. And you know, like he said to me,
like that's how I've always seen it. And you know,
is it more intense in New York maybe, but it's
pretty intense in Green Bay two based on how important
they are in that state. And and so he deals
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with it, you know what I mean, Like, and I
think he's been through a lot over the course of
his career where that he can draw and if they
were to go to Owing two that said, I mean
you are right, like, okay, so now if you're going too,
then you're you're coming back home and you're playing against
New England on Thursday night and you're home opener, and
now all of a sudden, you're staring one three in
the face and you're in a standalone game, and you know,
(39:32):
the pressure gets amped up quite a bit. So you know,
I it's sud be stupid to call this must win,
you know, win, no, no, no, like but but yeah,
I mean, like, I mean, the Jets on paper look
like I think everybody I think like you said, like,
I think everybody accepts the Niners loss for what it is,
but nine here's are a wagon, right and beyond just that,
(39:54):
like like Kyle Shanahan knows that Jets defense like the
back of his hand because that's his old defensive coordinator
who's the head coach, right, So like there's lots of
elements there that made that tough matchup for the Niners.
So we can all take that for what it is.
They should be two and one a week from to day,
right or a week from tomorrow, like they should wake
up on in eight days, they should wake up and
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be two and one, And if they aren't, like then
I think that there's you know, like, how does that look.
Is it a loss on Sunday and then it went
on Thursday or the other way around? You know. I
think this discussion on the Jets changes quite a bit
if they lose either of these next two games, because
they're going to be the better team in both of
those and they I don't think anybody would argue that
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they went into that game in San Francisco it's a
better team. The Niners might have the best roster in
the league. So yeah, it's totally different deal this Sunday
than it wasn't Monday night.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Get them on x at.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Albert Briers, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the
MMQB joining us here on Fox Sports Radio AB. How
real is the possibility that Russell Wilson never gets the
starting job in Pittsburgh, Inn.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
I think it's possible.
Speaker 13 (41:06):
I think it's so much of it. Like I look like,
I think that there's support for Justin Fields in the building,
and I think like everybody there genuinely likes Justin Field,
and he's done all the right things, and he's a
really good culture fit for what they are and what
Mike Tomlin's built there over the last seventeen years, you know,
(41:29):
So there's that. I also think, you know, he showed
wasn't perfect, but he showed he.
Speaker 12 (41:35):
Could effectively manage the game. He showed he could effectively
carry out their game plan, which I know people have
these a key charts or whatever and all of that.
Like a big part of their game plan was avoid
the middle of the field because that's where Jesse Bates is,
So you know, work the sidelines and kind of you know,
play it close to the vest. We have to protect
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our young linemen. They're they're starting a bunch of new linemen,
and just put our defense in position to win the game.
And he effectively did that, you know. Plus he was
able to manage the game at the end of the half,
at the end of the game, and so there was
a lot of good stuff there from Justin Fields. He's
not he wasn't a world beater, but like he showed
like they can win with him, you know. So you know,
(42:20):
I think he probably gets another shot to go back
out there on Sunday. You know, we'll see, but it
looks like he's going to play on Sunday, and if
he plays well again, I think that that conversation takes
another step.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Now.
Speaker 12 (42:31):
The question is like, if you decide we're going with
Justin Fields, can you keep Russell Wilson on the roster,
you know, because he's never.
Speaker 13 (42:39):
Been a backup before.
Speaker 12 (42:40):
So and I think that that was part of the
reason why you know, Wilson Wilson won the job in
the first place, was like part of the discussion there
is like, well, it would be a lot easier if
things don't go well to go from Wilson to Fields
and the other way around. So you know, there's some
complexity of situation, but Fields has done enough to make
it a real, a real discussion both in the summer
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and and on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Sticking with quarterbacks, let's let's stay in AFC North is
I mean that looked as though they captured footage of
Joe Burrow struggling to hold the the water bottle.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I don't know how true that is, but I mean
he keeps shaking his hand and trying to figure things
out with his hand. What's going on there? Is there
smoking fire here? Or is this just being overblown?
Speaker 13 (43:27):
Yeah? I think he's okay.
Speaker 12 (43:28):
I mean I I don't know, like I you know,
when I talked to him about it, you know, I
think like part of it and you know I've talked
to his coaches about it too, is like just getting
more consistent with it, you know. They they had to
be patient. There wasn't a ton of precedent for this,
you know, with with there was no precedent with quarterbacks,
and generally this is an injury that you would see
(43:50):
the like defensive lineman, you know. So there was some
much charted territory there and they were really careful and
kind of sequencing him back, you know, in the spring,
in the summer. And one of the things they found
LeVar was that, you know, like the ball would flutter
on him a little bit early on, and as time
went on, as he got more reps like that, those
(44:12):
instances became fewer and farther between. Right, So like you
might go open the ball fluttering on him three times
in a practice to you know, the ball fluttering on
him once every other day like whatever that, you know,
like however you count those up. That's sort of the
way it happened. And they felt good about where he
was going into the season. Now, as you know, like
doing it in the game is different than doing it
(44:34):
in the practice. So is there some element of them
there maybe? But I know that they felt really good
about where he was coming out of the coming coming
out of camp, and they take real patient, measured approach
and bringing him back from the wrist.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Ab We got about thirty seconds. But I wanted to
ask you how concerning is the Christian McCaffrey injury.
Speaker 12 (44:57):
I mean concerning enough to be careful with it, you know,
I think if Sunday was the NFC Championship Game or
the Super Bowl, he would play. I think anything, like
like anything else, like a cat is something that lingers
and in achilles is something that can be a much
bigger problem if you rush it. And so like I,
(45:19):
I think it's manageable, but you know, I think there's
something that they feel like they have to be careful with.
And so as we saw with the way that Jordan
Mason ran on on on on Monday Night, that's a
team that can win different ways. That's good enough them
all round it enough to win without Christian McCaffrey. They
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were really good before he got there a couple of
years ago, and so, you know, I it's sort of
like I sort of feel it like the way the Patriots,
you state, managed the first month of the season when
Belichick was there and they really had it rolling, where
like the first month of the season would almost be
an extended pre season and working guys back into the
lineup again, guys the full help and building your team
(46:01):
for January. And that's sort of the approach they're taking
them with McCaffrey right now, get.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
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Speaker 4 (46:07):
Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the
MMQB always appreciate you stopping by here on a Thursday.
Speaker 12 (46:13):
Thanks ab Okay, Thanks guys, have a good one.
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Speaker 5 (00:57):
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Speaker 4 (01:10):
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on the show. No Brady Quinn. Uh so, obviously you're
aware of Brady's ankle issue. He thought it was going
to be the safe play to just go ahead and
take a bunch of peds. Unfortunately pissed hot. So no
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
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Speaker 4 (01:36):
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Speaker 6 (01:41):
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I meant, considering what we're going to get into to
start off the segment, away we go, we go. Hey,
(02:14):
you know, apparently Shannon Sharp was unaware that he was
on IG Live, and uh.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I just don't buy that. I don't believe that.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Next thing, you know, they were at the batting cages.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
And uh batter up, Michelle up to the plate. Whoever,
so hey better better better swing no matter, no matter,
no matter, no stick. That happens to the best of us.
(02:44):
But you got one of them.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
No, I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
I don't have no live sex tape out there. I
tell you that, I don't.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I just you know, wasn't wasn't expecting that to be
the turn we took midweek following Week one in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
I mean I also probably wasn't expecting you know, the
situation to uh veer off the tracks as quickly as
it did in Cleveland based.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
And it's like the same arena. I mean, I wonder
how that stuff. Yeah, you think there's a live of
him hitting his buttocks rubbed out?
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Oh no, no, no, no, there's no that.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
And based on the transcripts of what went down, I'm
gonna go ahead and passing any of those on any
of the ability to watch any of that stuff, I'm.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Not really that really interested to see.
Speaker 7 (03:35):
Yeah, get that elbow in there, just yeah, get that
thumb in there, yeah, thumbs yeah, fingers yeah, I'm uh oh,
and he played for the dogs like he played for
the dog.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Yeah, that's a great point. It all ties together. Uh so, Yeah,
if anybody was interested and seeing how flexible if anybody's
interested in seeing how flexible the brown starting quarterback was,
you can go try and find that tape somewhere. But nonetheless,
(04:07):
a new claim against Deshaun Watson came out this week
following that bag of vomit he rolled out in Cleveland
over the weekend against the Cowboys, and of course he
was going to be asked about at the second the
media had an opportunity to do so. The first opportunity
to do that was on Wednesday, and so they asked him. Listen,
you know how important is availability for this team and
(04:30):
then also just the support he has received from the organization.
Speaker 8 (04:33):
I mean it's very important. You know, availability is the
biggest is one of the biggest things. You got to
be available for your teammates to be out there to
go help win. So again, you know, I have to
focus on what today brains, and today is Wednesday and
getting ready for these meetings and for this practice, and
we'll have to see what happens now. I can't speak
(04:54):
for the fans. I can't speak for any anybody outside
of this building, but I know that you know here
and for the Hasms and AB and those guys, I
know that they tell me echo every day that they
you know, support me and got my back and that
they want me to focus on being the best quarterback
I can be. That's all I can do is just
speak my truth, tell them the truth. They talked with
my legal team and everyone that was a part of
(05:16):
this whole process, and you know, they have to make
the decision, and that decision was to you know, have
give me the opportunity to come be their franchise quarterback
to help his team win.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
So Tony Buzby, who is the guy who has represented
all these women's all these women in these lawsuits. He
released a statement saying they reached out to Deshaun Watson
in his camp ten months ago to try and get
the whole thing settled. There was pushback, allegedly, and that's
why this stuff has come out public now. So they
(05:48):
tried a while back, and so now the conversation becomes, isn't.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
That called like extortion? Isn't there something to that?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Like?
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Isn't that blackmail or something like? Isn't there something to that?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
The problem though, is if it turns out that this
is true or he settles or what like, there is
a chance that he is in violation of his contract
and the Browns can try and get out of whatever
the ninety plus million dollar is is he's got coming the.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Next So that the conversation we had yesterday was was accurate.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yeah, if he did not disclose this information, because Stefanskin
spoke yesterday and said I didn't know anything about it.
But again, we're letting the legal process play out and
we're following the NFL.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
So that's quite the dilemma to be in if you're
Deshaun Watson, because you can't just settle to make it
go away, right, because that could be grounds for the
Browns to move on him. Yes, well, so then that
means that he has to take it to trial. And
I mean which that wouldn't I mean, how long would
that take?
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Yeah, there's and there's gonna be the appeal. There's gonna
be like it and really what there's also the other
aspect of it where if the NFL punishes him, that's
you know, a violation of the you know, player conduct policy.
That could also possibly be in violation of the contract
as well too, And so I look at the whole
situation and we clurious. Man, Look, we don't know how
(07:09):
this is going to play out. But here's what we
do know. We know that we've got a guy with
a background, We've got poor play on the field, We've
got potentially burner accounts, which is all just haha whatever,
and who knows if it's even true. You've got a
video out of like fans in the parking lot from
(07:30):
a woman who was doing some interviews with people saying
that they were given sweet tickets from Deshaun Watson's agent
to try and come up to the suite.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know, not, I mean not so much.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
You know for some of the extra curriculars, but more
so to try and the optics, you know, curry favor
with the fans and show like, hey, listen, we need
some support. Like there's been some rumblings out there that
maybe there's some people out there that have been paid
or been given things to try and support, like they
trying really hard to change the narrative and discussion around him. Meanwhile,
(08:05):
the play on the field is terrible, and it's been
terrible this entire time, and at some point, like when
are we just gonna stop and just take a step
back and say it's over? Dude, Like his time as
being a franchise caliber quarterback in the NFL and being
somebody that you would build your organization around is probably over.
(08:30):
I mean it's been four years since we've seen that
level of football from him.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Like what do we But he doesn't have to have
that level of football? I know that's the part. What
you mean it's over for it ain't just get started.
It says over, it's over, and maybe starting as a
quarterback and this is the part that's so mindful somewhere
else and be a backup in path like a zillion
dollars more than the persons starting in front of him.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
And this is the part that's so mind boggling about
all of it, Like he could be just average. They're
so pot committed to him. All he has to do
is just not be a weirdo, Like, dude, just don't
be a creep like like, that's it, and you're gonna
make two hundred and thirty million dollars for being an
(09:17):
average quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
You can't do anything about it. But technically, for what
it's worth, maybe he hasn't been a freak or a
weirdo since everything is happened, I would agree he's just
ain't ballin and that's it. And that's totally fine because
that the allegations aren't new allegations. They're old allegations.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
So if something like this pops up and it leads
to conversations and investigations and the NFL looking into it
and some sort of a punishment, the guy's gonna cost
himself hundreds of.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
True that, now, that's true. That's like on some Male
Tucker type stuff, right, like, you got your contract, you
got your guarantee years. Just just don't screw it up. Just
don't screw it up, like you. Literally, there's no way
other than doing something that is a conduct detrimental to
the organization that could screw it up.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It would be like if somebody had a winning lottery
ticket and he said, hey man, congratulations.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
And then you went out and did something that got
you arrested and put in jail for life, or.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Like it's just or this easy, like, hey man, you
got a winning lottery ticket. Just whatever you do, like,
don't do the laundry with that thing in your pocket.
And then numb Nuts throws it in the washer and goes,
oh no, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Like, don't be a weirdo. That's it. You got two
hundred and thirty million dollars, Like, it's not the like.
So I'm like him, bro, it's not the same. He
won that money. That money is going into his bank
account as we speak. Good god man, it's it's more
or less you. Why would you? Why would you put
(10:56):
yourself in a position where you're in default of that
type of compensation. And I think that that's that's to me.
He's like I said, I don't think he even remembers.
He probably doesn't even remember all of the people that
he's had these experiences with like if you think about it,
(11:17):
which is kind of wild because can you call like,
can you call him where for forgetting somebody that he
was dealing with? If you've dealt with so many people
like I thought, I told you guys, everybody that what
I had this type of interaction with It's like, hey,
remember that one cup of coffee you had? No, I thought,
that's not so many I but then now here you
(11:40):
want to know. When I was looking at this story
and I was thinking about it, I know we're up
on the break, but this is what it made me think.
Jonas listening to this account and the details of what
took place here, there's a strong possibility that every sexual
encount on her that Deshaun Watson has had could be
(12:03):
put on blast. Jeez, because this was not about it
being him going to a therapist. This was a date.
So now it's crossed over from I was getting, you know, therapy,
to now this was something that was personally driven. He
went to pick her up, He went to go on
(12:25):
a date. He came up in there because she was
still getting ready. He found himself butt naked, face down
on her bed while she was still putting her makeup
on like this now crosses this now crosses categories. So
now what's happened is by buzzby putting this out there
and this going out into the world, whatever happens. In
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terms of if he settles, he could be facing this
same situation over and over and over and over again.
If it's based off of his sexual or dating experiences
with the people that are out there. It's just so weird.
(13:13):
That's a lot, that's I mean, that man has got
to be living in paranoia every single day.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
And by the way, so you know, Stefanski was interviewed yesterday,
of course, and they're gonna ask him about it, and
he's just kind of like, hey, we're focused on At
some point, Stefansky's got to be fed up with this crap, Like, dude,
what like what is going on here?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
Like, like can.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
We just like it's one thing to like work through
some struggles. He didn't play in the preseason coming off
an injury, we get it, but like you can't even
like the body's not even cold on the game that
was a disaster, and then you've got this thrown on
top of it.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
And people aren't focused in on talking about the game
now The focus is now on what what's next for
this this situation, and again everybody's going to try to
figure out the timing of it. The timing of it
is just curious, man, very peculiar. Why now like week one,
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like he goes out there, he lays an egg. We
don't know if he's going, like Q said yesterday, listen
this week one, we don't know if he's gonna hitch
stride or not. Doesn't seem like he's going to trend up.
It's kind of he's been who he's been when he's
had his opportunities. I mean, that's debatable, but I don't
think he's been anything special since since coming to Cleveland,
(14:31):
and he hasn't been available. So whatever reason that is
or excuses that may be given, it is what it is.
But that's the truth. Nonetheless. But Jonas, I'm telling you,
if I'm Stefanski, you have to be thinking about what
you're going to do in order to keep the confusion
(14:51):
and the noise of this at a minimum, because this
is one of those this is one of them stories
where I know how locker rooms are, man, they're unforgiving.
There may be some dudes that support Deshaun Watson fiercely
and intensely, like as a teammate, as a friend, there's
gonna be dudes in that locker room that every time
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he cost them a game or doesn't play well, they're
gonna be like, you need to go get your butts
rub bru. You need you need some butt rubs? Is
your butt hurt?
Speaker 4 (15:22):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
You need some thumbs, need little elbow actions?
Speaker 6 (15:25):
What what? What?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You need? What you need out And they're going they're
they're not going to give him passes on all the
things that are taking place out here. And I wonder
I'd be curious to know if if some of the
identities of these people are you know, connected with some
of the other people within the industry of sport. You know,
(15:49):
maybe people know these these people that that he's interacted with.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
Like like some of these people aren't even masseuses like
correct like this, Like the woman just chicks that you
meet out. Yeah, he met her at a restaurant bar.
She was a single mother. I think she might have
worked at the restaurant or bar. And then you know,
he got frustrated because he couldn't find her apartment and said,
I don't have time for this and became angry. And
(16:13):
then he showed up to the place and she was
putting her makeup on, and then she comes out and
you know he's doing face downs, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
Doing the worm.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Know I'm talking about break dancing, man, I got you Yeah,
not where you was at. Yeah, a little solo twister,
which is bad because this is so bad that way
that you could actually interpret it that way. That's so weird.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
Man.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
There you go.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well listen, hey, I didn't pick him to go to
the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I know that. I know that.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I want them to be good, so bad man, this
might be a tough year for Ohio.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
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Speaker 3 (16:57):
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Speaker 6 (17:03):
Yeah, dang, I want to wait for.
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Speaker 3 (18:01):
Move up, Move and on up d like sub apartment.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
In the sky.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
I get it right now, up to the east side.
We finally got up piece something. Yeah, you got one
last night to need it. You got me some banana pie? Yeah,
where is it? I don't know. Forgot all about it.
Speaker 5 (18:31):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
I planted on eating it. A few things are fuzzy
for me from yesterday, man, Like I had a good time.
I was hanging out with my man Steve Khim yesterday.
Shots out to Big Steve. We was talking shop man.
But while we was talking shop, we was drinking Casamigo's
Moscow uh and pineapple. And before you knew it, we
(18:56):
had just had like four or five of them, or
maybe six doubles.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
So when I saw y'all, when I got to y'all,
I was trying to like clear my head, get myself back,
you know, to where I needed to get myself too.
So I forgot about that path. Yeah, it's not that
I didn't want to eat it, because when I when
I got it, I definitely was like, I'm going to
enjoy this pie.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
But you know, I forgot about it.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
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(19:48):
we were at the event yesterday hanging out with the
great folks from Rapid Radios, and a gentleman from the
restaurant that we were at came around and gave everybody
a card for hey, next time you're here, a free
nana cream pie. I guess it's like they're what they're
known for. They do a really good banana cream pie.
And so Levar's like, well, yeah, let me cash my card,
(20:09):
and now i'd like next time I come back. So
I walked out right now, So I walk out of
the restaurant with you and your wife. You're holding on
to this pie like you've got the Golden ticket from
Willie Walka.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Then you never ate damn.
Speaker 6 (20:25):
So that things just somewhere.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
I mean, I have my card if you want to,
if you want to go back and get an that one.
Speaker 6 (20:32):
Appreciate.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Oh man, Well, listen, it was a good time.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
It was a good time.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
It was. But here's what wasn't fun. Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
The New York Jets, who got exposed and battered around
by the San Francisco forty nine ers, even with Christian
McCaffrey out backup Jordan Mason stepped in and ran all
over him. Now, Robert Solid did promise in talking with
the me yesterday he has no concerns about the defense.
That will get fixed and that really was the issue.
(21:05):
Was the defense was the problem. No concerns whatsoever. He
feels like it is definitely going to get fixed. Aaron
Rodgers has also taken a similar approach, like, hey, listen,
people got to calm down. Everything's going to be okay.
Let's listen to Rodgers yesterday.
Speaker 11 (21:20):
I think we always got to stay relaxed. It's a
long season. I think at times people think the season
is like you're out in the prairie or the desert
and you're wandering around trying to find water. But it's
more like a nice slow ballero, you know, where we're
just swaying with the music and reacting to whatever comes
through comes to us and through us, and just trying
(21:42):
to not get too high with the highs or too
low with the lows. The league is a lot different
than what I said and relax years ago in that
there's just so much more coverage, that there's so much
more opportunity for overreaction.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I mean, that's not wrong, No, it's not. He's so
sophisticated in his approach, you know what I mean, Like
like he's so enlightened, very elevated. It's a very measured guy.
Speaker 6 (22:06):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
All right, but you better win soon. You better win soon,
because let me tell you something that ain't Green Bay Jack,
that's New York and that this league is different than
the times when you say relaxed, you damn right. But
I'll tell you what ain't different. New York media. They
always been on that ass. If you win your hero.
(22:31):
If you don't, you are the hell, and they will
get all up in it. Believe you me, you don't deliver.
They got you, We got you. So he went to
the right market in order to try to whatever it is,
bolster boost whatever he's doing in his career, which who
knows why that is even necessary, but it is what
(22:55):
it is. They have Tennessee this week. Tennessee. Tennessee is
a team that, in my estimation, could vary. I won't
say easily. They could beat this Jets team. They have enough,
(23:15):
they have enough defense where they can win a game
against a Jets team at home. And so, like I
said on Monday or Tuesday, if this team can't go
into Nashville and get a win against Tennessee, I know
(23:40):
we didn't. We said don't panic after week one, and
I agree with that. There's no reason to panic after
week one.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Well unless you the Browns.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I wouldn't even panic. If I'm the Browns just yet,
only team i'd say you should panic, but you should
already have been panicking anyways, Carolina, that's the only team.
You said. There be a team that does worse than now.
I don't remember what team that was. You said, Jah, Yeah,
it's gonna mess around and be two. I just do
(24:10):
not feel as though if if this and listen to
games is a small sample size, but if they can't
go in and win against the Tennessee Titans in week two,
it could it could get pretty interesting for the New
York Jets, and they could get really interesting for Aaron Rodgers,
And it could get super super interesting for Robert Salah,
(24:33):
Like does he even make it through the season? Like
is his is it? Now? The clock is ticking on
what day he's going to be canned as the head
coach of the New York Jets, Like think about it?
They so they have the Titans, then they have the Packers.
Oh no, excuse me, that's the Titans. Let me let
(24:55):
me go back to the Jets. The Jets have the
Titans coming up, and then I do believe they have
the Patriots. Right, yep, they had the Patriots, which that
now turns into a ridiculously big game.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
The Jets could potentially be coming into a game with
a divisional rival that was estimated to be a trash team,
and the roles could be reversed. You could have a
two and oh Patriots team going against a O and
two Jets team in Week three.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Yeah, you could. I think the Jets will win this weekend.
But here's this is what I would say.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
You think that the Cleveland Browns are going to win
the AFC North.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
I never said that. I picked the Bengals, trust me,
that's what they lost to doing it. I agree, Like
that's a I don't feel great about that at this
point in time. But I will say this, So you
and I live in southern California, which would you say
that we're spoiled by really good Mexican food out here?
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (26:00):
All right?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
So like we like I've had it in a different place,
and so the bar for us out here is very high,
very high.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
All right.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You know it's a great place to be the only
or average Mexican food place in Alaska. You don't know
why because the bar is real low, Like there's no
other spot in town. So you could roll out whatever
you want to.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Get in avocados in Alaska.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Figure it out like like like, buy a pair and
tell everybody it's an avocado. They're not getting another difference cares.
But the point is if the bars low, it changes
the way you feel about things. If the Jets win
ten games this year, would you consider that a success
for the Jets?
Speaker 3 (26:41):
Yes, for the Jets, yes, And that's the point. But
that's not is that what they're being measured on internally.
Speaker 4 (26:47):
But the point is they've done that once in the
last fifteen years. So maybe they won't be a super
Bowl team, but they're gonna be in contention for a
playoff spot. They might even be a wild card team,
and based whatever the hell happens in the AFCs, who knows,
maybe they'll compete for the division they're not, but don't
I don't look at the Jets and go, man, what
(27:10):
we saw on Monday Night football. That's a problem because
this doesn't look like a super Bowl team. My bar
for the Jets isn't the super Bowl. My bar for
the Jets is just be better than you've been the
last fifteen years. And that's a low place to be,
and I think they can pull that off.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
And that's like a horrible approach.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Like you didn't bring in Aaron Rodgers, you didn't draft
the way you draft, you don't have the you know
which about the way Tyrant's Tyron Smith was fricking a
costing Nick Bosa like talk about legally or illegally, I
mean it was both. They should have came and arrested
(27:51):
him after that football game, the way he was holding
and grabbing that man. I just really think that you
can't say that winning ten games or making it to
the wild card is good enough when you've done what
you've done, not even mentioned, not even to mention the
fact that where you brought with Robert sala from and
(28:12):
how well he was doing with the San Francisco forty
nine ers when they went and got him. I just
don't think that you have expectations that are based upon
a bar being set so low that you can exceed
that bar, especially in the New York market. I just
don't think that works. I really don't. I don't think
(28:32):
that's the way. I don't think that plays out well.
But I've not been on the New York Jets bandwagon
to begin with, so regardless of anything, I just don't see.
I'm not a believer that again, that talent can outperform dysfunction.
And from all things I've heard and I've seen, this
(28:54):
looks like a classic one of those franchises that is
a dysfunction franchise top to bottom.
Speaker 4 (29:04):
I mean, if you're a Jets fan and you really
believed that that you're in contention for a Super Bowl
this year, then you've got the iq of a spork
like like stop, like the you're you should just be
trying to have a successful run. Like look the Rex
Ryan years. We can you know, poke fun and all
(29:25):
that stuff, but they were in AFC title games a
couple of times. I believe, back to back years like
this idea that they're going to dictate what is deemed
success and we hold them to a high bar, Like
what high bar?
Speaker 3 (29:38):
Like the Giants.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
I can understand there's super Bowls there the Jets, there's not.
So if you're a Jets fan and you are, And
Rogers made the point and people kind of push back
on it to where he said, Hey, listen, if you're
a Jets fan and you think, you know, you want
to get out of here, and you don't you want
to jump off the boat, that's fine. You can leave now,
but don't come back. He should say that like, like who
(30:01):
are you to determine?
Speaker 2 (30:02):
There?
Speaker 6 (30:02):
Long enough?
Speaker 4 (30:03):
But who are you to determine like what is considered
successful or not?
Speaker 3 (30:07):
You wouldn't know. But he don't need to be attacking
a fan base that he's done absolutely zero for thus far.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
I don't know if that makes sense. I don't know
if it was attacking. And more so, just like listen,
like let's threading threatening?
Speaker 6 (30:20):
What what is that? Rebuttaling? Refuting?
Speaker 5 (30:23):
What?
Speaker 6 (30:23):
What?
Speaker 3 (30:24):
He don't need this? Like that's not the road he
needs to go down where he's at right now.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Hey, you want to be on this boat. Come on,
if you don't go swim with the sharks, go out
there and go.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Try swimming with them anyway, like that boat might be
taking on water.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Jets are gonna be fine. Okay, you go, you know
you gotta you gotta stop being so negative all the time.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Well, I'm not. I'm just down on him. I'm not negative.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Just you know, ask me about a different team, I
might be different about him. That team in particular gives
me no reason to believe that the correlation of what
we've seen from this team is that they're trending up.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
By the way, you want to know who's got it
worse than them, So, Dave Canalis, who's the head coach
of the panthersh you know, David Tepper, the guy who
roughs up people at at bars and they have signs
out in front that are critical of the team and
then throws, you know, cups of acid on fans at
Jaguars games if they if they blew the team or
(31:24):
a hard time. So David Tepper, he has meetings with
coaches after every game. And so Dave Canalis said, Yeah,
I met with Dave and he was nothing but supportive
to me. Hey, buddy, let me tell you something we've heard.
If this continues to look like it did, like it's
(31:45):
going to be another one and done for the Carolina,
Like David Tepper and the Carolina Panthers are veering towards
worst run organizations we've seen in the NFL a long time,
not saying from any scams or anything like that, because
because you would know being in Washington how that stuff
all played out, and I would know. Well, I'm just
(32:05):
saying you were there a little bit me, man, right,
But we're talking.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Out on me.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
Don't we speak that even on me?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Ricky Bobby, We're talking Matt Rule, We're talking Frank Reich,
We're talking Dave Canalis like they like he might actually
pull this.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Off and just got everybody.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
And the guy who's gonna have to wear it is
Bryce Young, whose career is never going to take off
because he ended up in the worst situation.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
In the NFL and they'll call him a bus.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
So if you are a team out there, in an
organization out there, and you're frustrated with your franchise.
Speaker 6 (32:38):
Just look at Carolina.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Could always be worse, that's it unless you're a Carolina
Panthers there. Yeah, And if you can't be worse, yeah,
not as an NFL team.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
If you are, go root for the Bobcats or whatever
they're called.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
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At the m m QB.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
You can get him on X at Albert Brier. Albert,
what's happened? How are we doing?
Speaker 5 (33:10):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (33:10):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (33:10):
Jonas?
Speaker 12 (33:11):
How you doing good?
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (33:13):
VARs here too, We're trying to make sense of.
Speaker 12 (33:16):
Brady is still like, uh, bracetill recovering from Saturday.
Speaker 4 (33:19):
Well, no, no, it went bad to worse. So he
rolled his ankle playing soccer with his daughters. He thinks
he broke something. Yeah, so he's uh, but he's traveling
because he has some stuff to do for a big
noon in Madison.
Speaker 12 (33:33):
So so I guess, so, I guess even you, uh
you pro athletes are prone to old man injury is
the way the rest of us are.
Speaker 3 (33:40):
Absolutely yeah, absolutely got to be careful out here, man.
Speaker 12 (33:45):
You know. Yeah, I mean I've enjured myself like stepping
on legos before.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
So the pain, Yeah, my son dropped, there's.
Speaker 12 (33:53):
No there's no there's no pain like stepping in your
kids toy.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Oh it's the worst.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
My son dropped a monster truck on my face last
year while I was sleeping, so I had to show
up with a black eye, which is not fun. But
you know, things happened. You know, they're their kids.
Speaker 12 (34:07):
I remember, I remember, I like I was limping for
a week. This was when my kids were a little
younger because I stepped on the train station the Thomas
the tank engine. Yeah, it did not feel good.
Speaker 6 (34:20):
That sucks.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
All right, Well, we're trying to make sense of this,
the Deshaun Watson situation.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
Yeah that sucks. It's like, how does this play out?
Speaker 4 (34:35):
Like if this turns out, is there a way that
if he just tries to settle, Like is there the
potential that the Browns could get out of this whole
thing based on this latest incident that Tony Busby says
he tried to get cleared up ten months ago, but
Deshaun Watson and his representatives pushed back on it, and
(34:55):
now here we are like what is your what do
you take away? What's your make of this whole situation?
Speaker 12 (35:01):
I mean it's you know, it's interesting because I think
there are two things like that really are at play
for you know, for the league here for the team here,
and like the first thing is that you know that
this is at this point not a criminal case, right like,
so you know, like how do you handle civil versus criminal?
(35:26):
You know, I this is not like related to this
particular situation, but you know there are always those cases
out there, and we've heard about them where like the
athlete you know has had his name dragged through the
mud and was exonerated, and you know, you like, these
leagues and these teams want to be careful in proceeding
(35:47):
with situations like this because they don't want to incentivize
people like filing civil cases against players.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Right.
Speaker 12 (35:53):
So that's one piece of it that like you know,
always I think you know it has over the last
years created caution for the league. The other thing that's
created a caution for the league in situations, but this is,
you know, like they've kind of gotten themselves in trouble
jumping in front of the legal process before, right so
before there's any sort of adjudication of the case, like
(36:14):
they'll do something and then they wind up with egg
on their face one way or the other, whether they
went too light or too hard. So you know, I
think they've taken a more cautious approach with this stuff
for those two reasons. You know, I really at this point,
it is so early in this stuff coming out, you
know that I think, you know, like the league and
(36:36):
the team are still kind of in fact finding mode.
And you know, obviously Deshawn's disclosure to the team is
an important element of this too. So there's just a
lot of moving pieces right now. And you know how
this what this winds up being three or four or
five months down the line, I don't know, you know,
And I think I got to respect the seriousness of
what's being charged here, Like you in charge is probably
(36:58):
the wrong word, like alleged here. You know, I think
you want to, you know, treat it with a lot
of seriousness, But I think it's way too early to
have any sort of definitive take.
Speaker 13 (37:08):
And where it's going.
Speaker 3 (37:10):
It seems like it's a quarterbacks year. Abe, I'm trying
to decide which quarterback question? Why do I want to
go to Pittsburgh do I do I want to go
to a place like say New York. With what's going
on with Daniel Jones or with Aaron Rodgers. There's so
many different things going on with quarterbacks. This year, let's
(37:35):
let's let's talk about Aaron Rodgers. I guess I'll choose
Aaron Rodgers because there's a relevance here. They're they're playing
a divisional opponent and it's it's, uh, you know, it's
the Tennessee Titans that they're going to play. I did
not expect them to beat the forty nine ers. However,
(37:55):
I do expect them to beat the Titans. If they
do not beat these Titans. Does do you get the
feeling that Aaron Rodgers understands the compromising position he could
find himself in being in the media market that he's in,
because some people don't really understand that, and he's late
(38:17):
in his career. Do you think he has an idea
of how much pressure there is to win this next game,
just this next game.
Speaker 12 (38:26):
Yeah, you know, it's actually interesting what our talked to
him about this about I don't know, two three weeks ago,
about playing in New York and the difference between playing
in New York and playing in Green Bay and you know,
the fish bowl that you live in, and you know,
I really got the sense he embraces that part of
it and like he wants that part of it that
(38:47):
like he understands like everybody. I mean, the way he
put it to me is like everyone's on the hot
seat every year in the NFL, and no one's job's
ever secure. And you know, like he said to me,
like that's how I've always seen it. And you know,
is it more intense in New York maybe, but it's
pretty intense in Green Bay two based on how important
they are in that state. And and so he deals
(39:09):
with it, you know what I mean, Like, and I
think he's been through a lot over the course of
his career where that he can draw and if they
were to go to Owing two that said, I mean
you are right, like, okay, so now if you're going too,
then you're you're coming back home and you're playing against
New England on Thursday night and you're home opener, and
now all of a sudden, you're staring one three in
the face and you're in a standalone game, and you know,
(39:32):
the pressure gets amped up quite a bit. So you know,
I it's sud be stupid to call this must win,
you know, win, no, no, no, like but but yeah,
I mean, like, I mean, the Jets on paper look
like I think everybody I think like you said, like,
I think everybody accepts the Niners loss for what it is,
but nine here's are a wagon, right and beyond just that,
(39:54):
like like Kyle Shanahan knows that Jets defense like the
back of his hand because that's his old defensive coordinator
who's the head coach, right, So like there's lots of
elements there that made that tough matchup for the Niners.
So we can all take that for what it is.
They should be two and one a week from to day,
right or a week from tomorrow, like they should wake
up on in eight days, they should wake up and
(40:17):
be two and one, And if they aren't, like then
I think that there's you know, like, how does that look.
Is it a loss on Sunday and then it went
on Thursday or the other way around? You know. I
think this discussion on the Jets changes quite a bit
if they lose either of these next two games, because
they're going to be the better team in both of
those and they I don't think anybody would argue that
(40:40):
they went into that game in San Francisco it's a
better team. The Niners might have the best roster in
the league. So yeah, it's totally different deal this Sunday
than it wasn't Monday night.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Get them on x at.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
Albert Briers, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the
MMQB joining us here on Fox Sports Radio AB. How
real is the possibility that Russell Wilson never gets the
starting job in Pittsburgh, Inn.
Speaker 12 (41:04):
I think it's possible.
Speaker 13 (41:06):
I think it's so much of it. Like I look like,
I think that there's support for Justin Fields in the building,
and I think like everybody there genuinely likes Justin Field,
and he's done all the right things, and he's a
really good culture fit for what they are and what
Mike Tomlin's built there over the last seventeen years, you know,
(41:29):
So there's that. I also think, you know, he showed
wasn't perfect, but he showed he.
Speaker 12 (41:35):
Could effectively manage the game. He showed he could effectively
carry out their game plan, which I know people have
these a key charts or whatever and all of that.
Like a big part of their game plan was avoid
the middle of the field because that's where Jesse Bates is,
So you know, work the sidelines and kind of you know,
play it close to the vest. We have to protect
(41:57):
our young linemen. They're they're starting a bunch of new linemen,
and just put our defense in position to win the game.
And he effectively did that, you know. Plus he was
able to manage the game at the end of the half,
at the end of the game, and so there was
a lot of good stuff there from Justin Fields. He's
not he wasn't a world beater, but like he showed
like they can win with him, you know. So you know,
(42:20):
I think he probably gets another shot to go back
out there on Sunday. You know, we'll see, but it
looks like he's going to play on Sunday, and if
he plays well again, I think that that conversation takes
another step.
Speaker 6 (42:30):
Now.
Speaker 12 (42:31):
The question is like, if you decide we're going with
Justin Fields, can you keep Russell Wilson on the roster,
you know, because he's never.
Speaker 13 (42:39):
Been a backup before.
Speaker 12 (42:40):
So and I think that that was part of the
reason why you know, Wilson Wilson won the job in
the first place, was like part of the discussion there
is like, well, it would be a lot easier if
things don't go well to go from Wilson to Fields
and the other way around. So you know, there's some
complexity of situation, but Fields has done enough to make
it a real, a real discussion both in the summer
(43:02):
and and on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Sticking with quarterbacks, let's let's stay in AFC North is
I mean that looked as though they captured footage of
Joe Burrow struggling to hold the the water bottle.
Speaker 5 (43:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:16):
I don't know how true that is, but I mean
he keeps shaking his hand and trying to figure things
out with his hand. What's going on there? Is there
smoking fire here? Or is this just being overblown?
Speaker 13 (43:27):
Yeah? I think he's okay.
Speaker 12 (43:28):
I mean I I don't know, like I you know,
when I talked to him about it, you know, I
think like part of it and you know I've talked
to his coaches about it too, is like just getting
more consistent with it, you know. They they had to
be patient. There wasn't a ton of precedent for this,
you know, with with there was no precedent with quarterbacks,
and generally this is an injury that you would see
(43:50):
the like defensive lineman, you know. So there was some
much charted territory there and they were really careful and
kind of sequencing him back, you know, in the spring,
in the summer. And one of the things they found
LeVar was that, you know, like the ball would flutter
on him a little bit early on, and as time
went on, as he got more reps like that, those
(44:12):
instances became fewer and farther between. Right, So like you
might go open the ball fluttering on him three times
in a practice to you know, the ball fluttering on
him once every other day like whatever that, you know,
like however you count those up. That's sort of the
way it happened. And they felt good about where he
was going into the season. Now, as you know, like
doing it in the game is different than doing it
(44:34):
in the practice. So is there some element of them
there maybe? But I know that they felt really good
about where he was coming out of the coming coming
out of camp, and they take real patient, measured approach
and bringing him back from the wrist.
Speaker 4 (44:50):
Ab We got about thirty seconds. But I wanted to
ask you how concerning is the Christian McCaffrey injury.
Speaker 12 (44:57):
I mean concerning enough to be careful with it, you know,
I think if Sunday was the NFC Championship Game or
the Super Bowl, he would play. I think anything, like
like anything else, like a cat is something that lingers
and in achilles is something that can be a much
bigger problem if you rush it. And so like I,
(45:19):
I think it's manageable, but you know, I think there's
something that they feel like they have to be careful with.
And so as we saw with the way that Jordan
Mason ran on on on on Monday Night, that's a
team that can win different ways. That's good enough them
all round it enough to win without Christian McCaffrey. They
(45:41):
were really good before he got there a couple of
years ago, and so, you know, I it's sort of
like I sort of feel it like the way the Patriots,
you state, managed the first month of the season when
Belichick was there and they really had it rolling, where
like the first month of the season would almost be
an extended pre season and working guys back into the
lineup again, guys the full help and building your team
(46:01):
for January. And that's sort of the approach they're taking
them with McCaffrey right now, get.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
Him on ex at.
Speaker 4 (46:07):
Albert Breer, Senior NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the
MMQB always appreciate you stopping by here on a Thursday.
Speaker 12 (46:13):
Thanks ab Okay, Thanks guys, have a good one.
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