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September 13, 2024 38 mins

It’s a Football Friday the 13th on 2 Pros and a Cup of Joe, and Tua Tagovailoa suffers another scary concussion on TNF. Boots are on the ground in Camp Randall for Alabama at Wisconsin. Plus, “Ankle Watch 2024,” an “Ecstasy Tunnel” and “ICYMI.”

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe. Fox Sports Radio,
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you here. Coming
up on this Football Friday, We're gonna look back at
Thursday night football scary situation involving Tua Tagovailoa. What does
it mean for the Dolphins and him moving forward? We
will explain. We're also going to talk about the Bills
in the AFC East. Apparently they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

(00:20):
We'll get the very latest on the Deshaun Watson situation.
It gets weirder and weirder and worse and worse. We've
got an update on the Cincinnati Bengals trying to pay
Jamar Chase. Apparently that's not going well either. We've got
boots on the ground in Madison, Wisconsin for a historic
matchup between Alabama and Wisconsin. We've got an update on

(00:41):
Brady Quinn's ankle. We're going to talk about pies for
some reason. For some reason. Also, Bill Cosby pops up
during the course of the show and we bid farewell
to you, er you out. It's all yours. Coming up
next here, Two Pros and a cup of Joe on
a football Friday, Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:13):
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Speaker 2 (01:42):
Brady Quinn is back. What's happening? How we feeling feeling good?

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Glad to be back.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Sorry about missing yesterday, but you know, I had some
things to attend to at.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
The ankle and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:55):
You know, what did they said?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
We definitely definitely didn't come up with some creative stories
about the I was asking people last night what stories
they would want to tell about how I hurt my ankle.
Although Lorena wasn't here, so Lorena probably could come up
with like a better story than at least maybe some
of you guys did.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Were you saving babies?

Speaker 5 (02:13):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
What I told people was I was saving cats and
geese in Springfield, Ohio and now calling my killing.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh no, no, Well have you got any imaging done
or what's the results look like?

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yeah, so it's not broken.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Unfortunately, it was too swollen to get an MRI done,
so I have to go next week. And they called
me yesterday because I was supposed to go in this
upcoming Monday, and they said, well, we would like you
to go at this time to this place on Monday,
but unfortunately, your foot's going to be too big or
too tall for this MRI machine.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Like, well, I don't know what kind of MRI machine
it is.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
Apparently it's like a foot specific one, and so I
have to go to a different place now, but it's
gonna take a week instead of the I don't know. Again,
I have no idea like what that means. But they're like, yeah,
you're gonna be too big for.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
That m What do they got like garden Nome MRI machines?
Like they don't have anything to you.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
They looked at him and they were like, there is
no way he was going to fit.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
That kid's got another one on the way.

Speaker 5 (03:29):
There's no way that Brady Quinn is going to fit.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
No way, no grunting going on. I think the best
compliment ever.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Man, we're not able to go deep enough inside the
m machine.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well listen, now that's good. No broken bones, MRI I
are waiting.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
But I'm gonna be in there with too soon. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
On the on the medical front, scary situation for the
Miami Dolphins last night Thursday night football Bills Dolphins Bills
look great. By the way, that'll be the side story
to all of the conversation throughout.

Speaker 6 (04:17):
Say great, I don't know that's it, but they looked
like the Bills.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Hey, short week on the road, that's that's a damn
good perform to you. Ask me.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
They got out game. They didn't have close to time possession.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
The only thing that really led them to that score
looking like that was turnovers. Yeah, and and look here's
the headline of that game. That was a game that
was set up for Miami to win for a lot
of the reasons you just mentioned.

Speaker 3 (04:43):
Short week at home.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
They were without Toron Johnson, they don't have Matt Milano,
Like if not now, then when and Josh Allen has
owned the Miami Dolphins. Over the thirteen starts he's had
against them, he's had, I think he averages about three
hundred and twenty five total yards of offense per game.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Like think about that.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
That's like we always used to go back and look
at Aaron Rodgers, how he owned Chicago because he had
always beat Chicago. He was a putting up stats like that,
and at least during this span with Tua being there,
I think there were one in six now one and seven.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Before that game.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
I mean, if you want to talk about a player
owning a team, Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills have owned
the Miami Dolphins, and that was quite possibly the worst
possible outcome for all parties involved. For the Dolphins side
with not only taking that loss the way you did
to a playing the way he did before the injury,

(05:43):
and then having that injury that we're all scartered about
for him because we know they have no shot without him,
and now that's the sort of injury that he if
he has won more, his career might be over.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Man, that's what I was gonna now.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Mike McDaniel, the head coach of the Dolphins, did speak
out afterwards in talking about his feelings on the entire situation.

Speaker 8 (06:04):
Let's take a listen for me, I'm not worried about
anything that's out of my hands in terms of I'm
just worried about the human being. And you know, he'll
he'll drive the drive the ship when we get the
appropriate information.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
But it's day by day health.

Speaker 8 (06:23):
I don't approach things that I'm far inferior of expertise.
I'm just there to support my teammate, like I said,
And I think for me to go ahead and forecast
the things that I don't know in my non field
of expertise, I don't think that's appropriate. I think we'll

(06:43):
find out some more information tomorrow in terms of where
two is at. He'll you know, be able to spend
a good amount of time being evaluated and then we'll
have conversations and progress as as appropriate.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
So this was my thought on it because I saw
immediately people throughout the he should consider retiring.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
He's made his money.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Why risk it based on the history with concussions all
that stuff that we've seen, And to me, it comes
down like there's two people that make that decision. It's
the doctors and it's to a and if he's cleared
and he passes concussion protocol and that testing is up
to snuff and they feel like he's got a clean
bill of health, I have no issue with him going

(07:31):
back in there. I think anybody could run the risk
of getting a concussion, and I know he's got a
history of it. But if they feel like he's clear,
then I think he should be allowed to go in
and play if he chooses to. But I think there's
gonna be people that will look at him with a
side eye and think this is reckless. We can't do
this when really it feels like anybody could get a

(07:54):
concussion at any point in time.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
But the way that his daida do, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
They do get concussions. Guys get concuss ess. I mean
people get concussed. The only difference here is is we've
seen it play out with Tua in a way that
is it's scary. It's a scary thing when you see
Tua get a concussion after seeing the history of it.

Speaker 5 (08:14):
I know, you know.

Speaker 6 (08:15):
Al Michaels took some heat for what he had to
say about the play that took place because it was
Damar Hamlin that actually hit him, which I agree with
al Michaels.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
I mean it was like kind of a I mean, yeah,
it was.

Speaker 6 (08:30):
I mean, man, but to that point, listen, whatever it
is that Tua decides to do, it certainly has to
be a doctor's expertise in saying what he should do first.
That's first and foremost. You gotta have the information first

(08:50):
before you make the decision. Otherwise that's just it's a
foolish decision. You don't want to risk your life, you know,
I don't care if you make the money or not.
If you need to walk away from the game based
upon the prognosis of what your health long term will be,
then that's what you need to do. And that's the

(09:12):
case closed. But like you said, if he is given
that bill of health and he is cleared, then this
that's no one's that's no one's right to tell him
what they think he should do or judge him. I mean,
that's what people do. Anyway, They're going to judge you,
and they're they're going to have something to say. The
man made an athletic move to try to get to
the end zone to try to help his team win. Unfortunately,

(09:34):
he got hit, and that's something that I would say,
and and Q you tell me if I'm wrong on
this one, and maybe I am. But he has to
know he cannot take any hits like That's to me,
the bottom line is, don't put yourself in harm's way
that way, no way, no how, yes, I.

Speaker 3 (09:55):
Mean figure out.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
I don't know. He can't. He can't.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
You can't take like that. I would tell a regular quarterback,
you do not, dude, do not take hits like that.
These are the type of hits you do not take. Now,
I'm telling Tua bro, you know you know you are
not supposed to take hits like that. Please do not

(10:19):
risk yourself like that anymore. We'll live to fight another day,
We'll live to fight another down. But do not take
those types of hits. He's got to know that. He
has to know that. That's just my opinion on it, though,
no I know, and I think it's it's right, it's
the right opinion.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
I think that's what a lot of people are thinking
that watch the game and watch that play.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Go Why did he go ahead first? Why did he
need to go head first?

Speaker 4 (10:45):
I personally look back on it, and there's points in
times when as a quarterback, you will dive head first
as opposed to sliding, and it's only because you get
the advantage of the extra distance, meaning when you go
to die, even though you're kind of presenting yourself as
down when you when you go and dive, the ball
is going to be forward as opposed to when you slide,

(11:08):
and you kind of you know, go to you know
to as your butt like goes to hit the ground
wherever the balls, that's where they're gonna en up marking
it as you begin your slide because you're declaring yourself
down when you dive head first, it's kind of the opposite.
You know, you got to be like almost tagged down
because you don't get the same protections when you slide
feed first as compared to when you dive headfirst. So

(11:29):
they're trying to get quarterbacks to always slide to get
that protection. But oftentimes, when you're sliding sit, your feet
go down first, your upper body is exposed. And I've
always talked to quarterbacks about this, like you feel more
vulnerable sliding feed first, even though you're protected and if
guys hits you, you probably gonna.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Draw a flag.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
But more often than not, you end up getting hit
in a way that could could cuss you, could hurt you.
So I understand why some guys don't like to do it.
But that was an instance where he easily could have
and I don't really understand why he didn't because he
had an opportunity to give it his history and everything else.
I'm not saying that he's gonna have that in the
back of his head, but he's going to reprogram and

(12:10):
restrain himself, Yeah, to be in the moment, to be
able to, you know, sit there and say, when I'm
in this situation, I have to slide. I can't afford
to put myself in the position where I might get
knocked out again.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
Did it seem also like DeMar Hamlin wasn't expecting him
to come like it, come in like that, because it.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Wasn't the type of hit that made you think he
was going to knock.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
A guy out like it almost like he initiated the
contract contact. It wasn't like DeMar Hamlin went up on
him like to a ran into him.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
They ran into Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was a collision.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
I just I wonder, especially with his like the discussion
surrounding him and how that played out, and look, you know,
the one that was that played out was also on
Thursday Night Football that was against the Bengals. So it's
the fact that these have also taken place on a
standalone stage and you've seen all these discuss shouldn's and
conversations being had. I just wonder, Look, is it possible

(13:06):
that he gets cleared in the next few days to
play next week and then what does the conversation like
that turn into for the Dolphins.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
Can we go back to the tackle before ye and
I'll let Q answer that. But it was a routine
tackle like themar Hambling came in. It wasn't like totally
hit up. I'm going over it again right now. It
was it was the contact to the side of his head.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
That's what did it like.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
It was a side It was a routine tackle, and
it was the contact of how the mar Hamlin's maybe
shoulder or arm and body at the same time impacted
the side of to his head. I've seen it one
hundred times over. I've done it one hundred times over.

(14:00):
It's that temple. It was he hit him basically, he
hit him on his temple, and that was that was
what to me that I mean one d that was
the collision. That was the force that caused that concussion,
so that it wasn't like it was Damar didn't expect
it or anything like it was a routine tackle. It

(14:20):
was just it was a routine tackle with an angle
he hit like he made contact with Toua's head and
and that's that was the contact point of of why
that happened. But gouhad you answered.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
That, well, I just my thought on it is if
they do the testing this week and he clears concussion
protocol and we've seen players get injured one week and
get cleared for the next week before, but like, let's
just are they do they have to almost mandatorily sit

(14:51):
him at least a couple of games, just from an
optic standpoint because probably okay, yeah, that's.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
Yeah, which now impacts the Dolphins, Yeah, without a doubt.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
I mean, I think that's the one thing we know
is it's And it's funny because I've got people who
are not the biggest to his supporters or fans, even
though they're Dolphins fans, and they look at that injury
and they're like, oh, now I feel bad because I
rag on him all the time, And I go, well,
you should also feel bad because watch what happens.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
To this team without him.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
Yeah, you know, say whatever you want about you know
tu And he did not play well last night.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Of the three PIXI threw, I would say two of
them were for sure on him.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Why he's trying to throw it away, he's he's he
wasn't able to get it out of bounds.

Speaker 3 (15:36):
The other one, you know, it looked like, yeah, it
looked like this.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
The second one might have been either a miscommunication or
he just got really confident in his ability to throw
over the linebacker and before.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
That the cornerback.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
But you know, at that point it looked like Robby
Anderson or excuse me, Robby chosen maybe should have pushed
a little further if he's going to keep going whatever
the case may be. I'm not sure if it'll miscommunication,
so don't necessarily want to throw it on him. But
it didn't look good either way. But he didn't play well,
and he struggled versus the Bills. And that's the hard
thing is you know, you see that and you go, oh, man,

(16:11):
like you can frustrate with his level of play, but
you have no shot if he's not in there as
your quarterback. And that's the reality of what the Dolphins
are faced now, especially coming off of a contract extension
where you feel like you're invested, you're all in, you're
behind this guy. Now you feel like he's one concussion
away from maybe having to retire.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
And I know you're I know you're saying, Joyce logo.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
If he's clear, if the doctor says cleared, at some point,
there's gonna be a neurologist that looks at him and says,
you've had enough of these that have been documented. I
don't know how many that haven't been it's probably not
wise for you to continue to play the game of football.
That conversation is going to start coming his way at
some point.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, that's going to be the hardest point. That's that
is going to be the hardest aspect of the first
game out of the gate. First game out of the gate.
This is what happens to you? Well, second second game, right,
second game, second game.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Uh, that's to me, that's what to a.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Like second game.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Out recut and say the first Thursday game out of the.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
First Thursday game out of the gate, and this happened.
Here's the point, though, that is going to be the
old and forget storylines, right, the storylines are storylines. They're
they're going to right themselves. They're going to They're going
to show themselves. This is something that this team is

(17:44):
going to have to deal with every single time to it.
Like think about that, Like, let's let's put in perspective.
How many times did you have that feeling about one
of your teammates Q Like You're looking at your teammate
going out there on the field and you're like, man,
this could be the game where my boy is done

(18:05):
like forever. This is it for him, Like if he
gets hit the wrong way, this is it for him.
How many times have you thought about that going into
the game for one of your teammates in particular.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I don't know. It's a good question.

Speaker 6 (18:19):
I can't think of any I can't think of any
There was one, okay one think about that in the
in the history of you playing that game or or
and during your I mean, for me, during my career.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Mike Glazer.

Speaker 6 (18:36):
Mike Glazer in high school, I get like him, Yeah,
because he was a stone cold freak and he'll hit
you like he was straight up hit you. And he
was too little and he always knocked his little ass
out So Mike Glazer, So I got one too, high
school Mike Glazer, what shuts out to you?

Speaker 5 (18:50):
Glasser?

Speaker 6 (18:53):
But but that's it. So so to put it in perspective,
if you really are going out there and you're thinking
about to yourself, man, like this could be it for
my bro like this, this, this could be the game,
this could be the hit, like and you're always going
to have that in the back of your mind with
Tua now, like maybe you've maybe teetered on it before,

(19:17):
but if you didn't teeter on it before, you are
one hundred percent on that boat now.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
And how do you go through a season that way?
I mean?

Speaker 6 (19:26):
Is it the offensive line because he was under duress,
they were getting after him, they were making it uncomfortable
for him. Is it the offensive line that they just
turned into grown men and it's like, no one will
penetrate this line and harm our quarterback, no one, Like
what is it?

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Like?

Speaker 5 (19:43):
Is it the running game? They had a nice running
game going, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think it's on him, man, that one's on him,
Like that was a scramble play and there were options.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
There and he chose that one.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I Mean, I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad
at you for saying that.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
That is all before we do what we normally do today. Yeah,
if you guys, welcome back Lorena.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Yes, yes, of course she was.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I was. I wasn't here yesterday.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
So I feel that it was like y'all tagged in,
you know what I mean, like like tag.

Speaker 5 (20:12):
Me in, partner, tagged me in, and you were out
and she was in.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
She was on the injured list, then boomed, then she
came back off the r and then damn, and then
you went on the injured list and then you know,
so here we go.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I mean, Lorena, do you want to do the honors?
You want to announce what the special day is?

Speaker 5 (20:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (20:29):
For me, sure, Okay, I'm really excited about this because
the season just started, so it really is football.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
Come yeah, come on, come on, yeah, football this Friday,
Football Friday.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
Let's do it.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
Let's do it. Let's do it, Brady, thank you on Friday.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Friday. Come on, come on, come on, let's do it.
Let's do it.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
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Speaker 3 (21:09):
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Speaker 5 (21:10):
Come on, yeah, okay, let's do this right, let's do
this right for you? Eddie? All right, come on, Eddie.

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Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, looks I hear the second song because Jonas plays
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Speaker 5 (22:04):
Really loves that song. The way together.

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Speaker 3 (22:25):
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That's right.

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Speaker 5 (24:48):
I thought I was right.

Speaker 1 (24:49):
Bomb ankle and all boots on the ground, still getting done.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
How did that work?

Speaker 5 (24:54):
On the flight, bro? What'd you do?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
It was fine? Oh yeah, we should talk about that right.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
I ended up connecting through Detroit, and I walked all
the way. It actually didn't it is, and I was
a little bit concerned about having to go from that
A terminal to the B terminal. So they have these
walking escalators and what the meat Wagon likes to describe
as the ecstasy tunnel. Yes, well when you walk underneath

(25:20):
through that whole tunnel, there's all sorts of lights and
things going off.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
And so his question was like, how was the ecstasy tunnel?

Speaker 5 (25:28):
I said it was.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Fine, but they have ALTA. Yeah, one of the tunnels
is like that. Yeah, I get from which.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
You know exactly what you're talking about, though, and I
do feel ecstasy a level of it when I'm in there,
Like man like you're right, oh heah, we meat Wagon
like you know that one?

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Okay, go ahead back Yeah, he's he's good with that
kind of stuff. I don't like inconveniencing other people. So
I was like, man, I've got, like, you know, a
carry on and I got a backpack, so I don't
want to have to go in the walking escalator. Then
people are gonna have to walk around because I'm walking slow.
So I just I just walked. I just walked outside
the walk.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
It's wrong with you? Man?

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Yeah, it took me a bit, but I got there
and I had plenty of time, so it was fine.
It definitely it's not comfortable wear in that boot on
a plane.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
That's for sure.

Speaker 5 (26:18):
Oh so you do have a boot, man, Let people
walk around you, bro.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
In fact, I get assistance, get assisted, because because you're.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Going to the extreme queue.

Speaker 4 (26:29):
But why was if they were missing their flight and
I'm just in the way. You know, I don't have
to do that to them.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
It's a it's a kind humble approach, but bro, just
get assistance. Man, you're you know, you're more handicapped than
they are. Plus they do have boot. Plus they do
have stay to the right, just like driving. Slow traffic,
stay to the right. Fast traffic move to the left. Like,
come on, man, it was.

Speaker 5 (26:57):
Down man. Like, let's have a real conversation, man, Like,
don't be done there.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
On that way? Work grind. I can't do that.

Speaker 5 (27:03):
I like that.

Speaker 6 (27:03):
I like I understand the thought process and the mindset
of a work grind. But come on, man, get that wheelchair. Bro.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Hey, this should Alabama really be a sixteen point favorite
at Camp Randalls this weekend?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (27:22):
I think so.

Speaker 4 (27:23):
The only thing that makes me wonder the last two
weeks how Wisconsin's looked offensively, because defensively looked fine.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
It's offensively, you know, do they have more firepower?

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Tyler Van Dyke, the transfer quarterback from Miami, is only
thrown one touchdown pass and what you're singing year two
hunder Luke fickle. But really the offensive coordinator Phil long Ago,
he's more it comes from the air raid. Now he's
not really running an air rate if you actually look
at the splits of what they're doing. They still run
the football, but they don't run the football how they

(27:57):
used to. You know, I was starting to Coach Meyer
about this last night. It used to be in Wisconsin,
and I remember coming back here, LeVar, back when Paul
christ was here, and you know, they bring in it
full back, they bring in multiple tight ends, they bring
an extra offensive lineman. You don't see that as much.
That's just not the style of offense. That's what is

(28:17):
going to run.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
That's exactly Wisconsin.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
And that's what to me made them so difficult and
so good, especially in camp Randall. Yes, because and Lvar
will tell you, like you probably felt like it was
a heavyweight boxing match.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Is that fair?

Speaker 5 (28:33):
And we weren't the heavyweights in the match?

Speaker 4 (28:36):
Well, and there's a lot of there's a lot of
people that felt that way because not many offenses were
constructed the way theirs were with that sort of personnel
where you dealt with big bodies in a power running
game all game long for four quarters. And one of
the reasons why you do it is, look at September,
weather's fine. You start getting the October November, the weather changes,

(28:59):
it gets a lot more difficult to throw the football
as effective as you can in places that are further south.
So I'm kind of questioning just the overall thought of
what this offense is.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
It's their third different starting quarterback in three years.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
They wont Tanner Mordecai last year as a transfer quarterback
now to go with Tyler Van Dyke. We're seeing around
college football transfer quarterbacks having a hard time, especially early
in the season, really show out right away given the
newness of a system, a new place to university they're attending,
the guys they're throwing to, I don't know, man, there's

(29:33):
just a lot of questions I think about will they
have the ability to put up the type of points
they need to offensively. They're gonna have to beat man
to man like Alabama plays a good about a man
of man, a decent amount of post time safety zone.
Some of it is like a match zone. So it
plays out like man and that's unfortunately. The tough part
for Wisconsin is they haven't demonstrated versus lesser opponents.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Than two weeks or two games to be able to
do that so far.

Speaker 6 (29:59):
I don't know enough about them, so I'll defer to
you on that. But I do know about playing Camp Randall,
and it is it's a tough environment to play. It's
one of the toughest. It might have been the most
like not Michigan. Michigan was surprisingly like it was. It was,
you know, kind of it was fine. Camp Randall tough,

(30:21):
very tough, Iowa tough.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Alabama hasn't been to Camp Randall since nineteen twenty eight.
That place is gonna be rocking.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
That's gonna be That's going to me.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
That's a major factor now once it gets down to
Rydale versus Rydale. I mean this, this Alabama team looked
pretty impressive so far, so I haven't I'm not really
up on Wisconsin yet. I don't know enough about them,
so I'll see that this weekend. But one thing they do,

(30:51):
they do play defense. But if they don't have it,
like you're talking about running game, I mean, no, I
was there during the Alvarez period of time. You didn't
just have dudes like Aaron Gibson. If you don't know
who that is, look him up. He's like it's six
foot He's a mountain of a man and could do
like full splits like and could do like amazing things

(31:14):
like that. People his size just shouldn't physically be able
to do.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
So.

Speaker 6 (31:19):
Athleticism was tremendous, and they had a whole bunch of
those dudes like like three hundred plus pounds and could
do amazing things athletically. And then by the way, then
they had battering rams and bulls like Cecil Martin.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
Look him up. That was a full back like and
I mean full.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
Back, and then behind him you had a they should
have called him a full back too, or tailback plus
which ended up being the leading rusher of all time
by the name of Ron Dane.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
They just wear you down. So I don't know.

Speaker 6 (31:54):
And they've always had like explosive as you mentioned, Q,
They've always had like Jonathan Taylor's and league right now
doing well. You know, you've had so many guys that
are just so successful because of the style of play
and the offensive lineman development that they're able to find.
It's always been a staple since I can remember of Wisconsin.

(32:18):
So it's kind of that's interesting to hear that that
that might not be what they are.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Now, do you want to hear a stat that blows
my mind?

Speaker 5 (32:26):
Let's hear it.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
Imagine you have a running back there.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Are you in the ecstasy tunnel or not when you're
doing this now?

Speaker 4 (32:31):
No, no, no, just hear these stats and you tell
me if they're Heisman worthy. Twenty five hundred eighty seven
yards rushing, okay, twenty seven season for that, and it's
in one season okay, thirty two total touchdowns from a
running back, twenty nine rushing, three receiving.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
That's a lot.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Should that not be good enough in one season for
the Heisman?

Speaker 5 (32:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah, okay, that was Melvin Gordon, Yeah, that one who
got it that year.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
I believe it was Marks Mariota.

Speaker 6 (33:06):
Oh wow, Well, because it's a quarterbacks award, you know,
they get all the perks.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
I guess I would just make the case that specific year.
Although Marcus Mariota had an unbelievable year.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
He did it.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, he did well. Listen, it's going to be a
fun environment. I will say this Fort was bawling for people.
For people listening in Wisconsin.

Speaker 6 (33:29):
Him and Todd Gurley came out the same year, right
they because I just remember it was like the year
of the drade of the running back.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
Well, no, I'm just a little request.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Did have fifty seven total touchdowns that season. That's a
lot of touchdowns. He threw for forty four over forty
four hundred yards in rush for over seven hundred like
that is pretty ridiculous. Step over five thousand total yards
from scrimmage in one season.

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Speaker 3 (34:08):
It's great.

Speaker 4 (34:10):
He's distracted. He's looking at Lee Rainda the whole time.
Oh snap, guess what I saw.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
I don't know what that was. That was.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
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Speaker 1 (34:18):
Biz man, what a bys It's easy, My gosh, yeah,
So if you're out there, uh you know, let us
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Speaker 5 (34:26):
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Speaker 5 (35:38):
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Speaker 12 (35:40):
Lap Good Friday Morning, everybody, Good morning, Jonas, Good morning, Brady,
good morning, LeVar morning.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
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Speaker 12 (35:52):
The Minnesota Twins have now cut their catching prospect Derek
Bender after he was supposedly tipping pitches to incoming a
old the opponents.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
This was in the final game of the season.

Speaker 12 (36:02):
He let the opponents, Lakeland Flying Tigers clinch their playoff
spot in a six to zero win over his Fort
Twin single A affiliate, the Fort Myers Mighty Muscles. Yeah,
the Lakeland coaches alerted the Fort Myers team about him
tipping pitches to the batters, and Bender apparently told his
teammates after that he just wanted the season to be over.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
What a dirt bag.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I was just gonna say, what a loser.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
What I don't care, you don't what do you care?
You think this is appropriate behavior? But a rat like that,
just in.

Speaker 6 (36:36):
The clubhouse, just throw the ball.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
Swing at the ball, throw the ball, catch the ball,
catch the ball.

Speaker 4 (36:44):
That's the type of person that I don't know how
many gambling lines they're on in these games. That's the
type of perfect person that's going to try to shave
points or do something in a game. Yeah, runs are pitch,
I guess in this case, but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
And so it affects his teammates, like those pictures that
are out there that are trying to grow and advance
in their careers, and now they're getting lit up because
this guy's tipping off pitches, like what are you doing?

Speaker 5 (37:12):
Man? Like? How was he tipping them off?

Speaker 9 (37:13):
Again?

Speaker 1 (37:14):
He's letting the play, letting the batter know what the
pitch is coming, like, hey fast the opposite team.

Speaker 5 (37:18):
Yes, so he was a catcher.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Is he saying it like that?

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Hey fastball? Here fast?

Speaker 3 (37:23):
What are you saying? English?

Speaker 6 (37:24):
He was saying says in English like that, Yeah, I
mean I'm assuming, I mean, what what other language would
have been in well?

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Like how do you say fastball in.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
Spanish El fasto ball?

Speaker 1 (37:36):
No, you say caliente rapid right, Hey, rappido balletro.

Speaker 5 (37:44):
Caliente, it's coming in hot, coming in hot.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
Do you think the umpire would figure this out too?

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, properly. I'm assuming he would hear it, or maybe
he just thought that there's no way.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
But seriously, so you're taking the credibility of the dude,
Like I'm coming up, I'm swinging at these and he's
telling me he's tipping me off, Like, am I believing him?
I'll be sitting there like, man, I don't believe his
bum Like, man, I'd be like.

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Shut up, dude.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
You probably take the first one going okay, and there's like, no,
that really was a fastball. Okay, Well he's telling the truth,
and then you just turn and burn.

Speaker 3 (38:21):
What a loser though, can imagine playing that.

Speaker 6 (38:25):
That's pretty whack. But I just I wouldn't trust it, man,
I'd be like, I don't trust it.
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