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September 16, 2024 38 mins

Raiders get past the Ravens. Sam Darnold finds a perfect landing spot in Minnesota, with a win over the Niners. Braelon Allen is doing it right at 20 years old. The NFC West continues to play hard. Plus, the debut of Lee’s Leftovers.

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weekend for the NFL and a busy Sunday, We've got
Monday Night football coming up later on tonight, we got
the Falcons and the Eagles, the Atlanta Falcons trying to

(01:24):
avoid going oh and two because you know, it's like
that dreaded mark where they look at the statistics and
the numbers and the percentages, they would tell you twelve
percent of the time teams that go oh and two
to start off the year make the playoffs. And then
with the expanded playoffs, I think there's only been two
teams of the twenty one possible that have gone on
to make the playoffs since they expanded to the fourteen

(01:48):
team playoff format back in twenty twenty. So, with that
being said, the Baltimore Ravens find themselves at oh and
two following whatever the hell that was late in that
game against the Las Vegas Raiders to blow that game,
and we're still confident about Baltimore, like everything's gonna.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Yeah, they'll be a playoff team. Yeah, there'll be a
playoff team. They just it feels like there's it feels
like at times.

Speaker 5 (02:17):
There's always some like ironing out of the offense.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Early in the season.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
It's just usually their defense and the ground game is
good enough to kind of carry them through. And I
don't know that they're quite there yet, but I don't know.
It's it's hard to understand how they kind of gave
that away. On the other side of it, I think
you give credit to ap right, Yeah, you know that
the Raiders fighting back Minshew too, making enough kind of
clutch plays him kind of hanging in there because he

(02:42):
was under duress, but hanging in there well enough to
be able to get them a win.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
So there's still a playoff team. In my mind.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
They're too talented. Lamar is too good not to be.
But it's much like the Bengals some kind of like
early season, trying to figure.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
This all out.

Speaker 5 (02:58):
You played a really tough opponent everyone knew was gonna
be tough, and then you played an opponent that played
you tough in the Raiders the next week, and kind
of the opposite for the Bengals, who started off with
the Patriots, which I think surprised them to maybe some degree.
And then obviously the Chiefs this past week. Not surprised
by anything, you know, it just it almost felt like
in both instances, Cincinnati and Baltimore kind of wanted that

(03:22):
KC game more and you can understand why, but there's
elements of like and I never felt like this as
a player because the NFL, there's just too much parody,
Like any team, can you beat any team on any
given Sunday, But they're defending Super Bowl champs. It's Patrick Mahomes,
it's the Chiefs, it's everything that comes along with it.
That game feels like a bigger game, and it feels

(03:44):
like there was definitely more of an attention to detail
for both those two teams versus KC than the other
opponents I mentioned.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
You saw also burrows frustration with the PI call, Like
you could tell that, you like, he realized that was
the moment that was the game they had to get
against Kansas.

Speaker 5 (03:59):
City because Vice Versta, like, if it was the same
thing for Cincinnati and they got that PI call, you'd
feel like you're gonna win two. Yeah, you know, I
mean that's the reality is he knew that ultimately, that
one call even though it and we always say like
one play one call. It shouldn't make the game. It
did in that case, like it gave Kansas City the opportunity.

(04:19):
Who I was a little bit more shocked by the
fact that they were willing to basically concede for a
fifty some yard field goal they felt really good about
Butcker hitting it and he drilled it right down the middle.
But I thought they'd at least throw once a little
bit further downfield. But instead like giving it to Carson Steele,
who fumbled earlier in the game, to be the guy
to carry it a couple of times and center it

(04:40):
up for Bucker. It felt conservative for a team that
doesn't need to be when Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, listen, I think when you're looking at Baltimore and
where they're at and what they could possibly be, I'm
not concerned because again I think that it's early in
the season for one, and for two, I mean, that's
that's kind of you know, I don't know. I think

(05:12):
it's a bigger win for for the Vegas Raiders than
it is a bigger loss for for the Ravens just
because of where we're.

Speaker 6 (05:19):
At right now.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Even on extra rest, Like I think.

Speaker 6 (05:24):
Right now, I think that is my assessment of it.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
I'm not going to say I'm not going to pretend
that it isn't concerning to think that they're oh and two,
because that's very What what what's the percentage of going
to the playoffs? When you start owing to it's not very.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Well, it's hard. We've seen what two teams now in
the past four years.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. I think they're too good of
a team to be oh and two right now. But
with that being said, I'm not the way this team
is built, the type of talent that they have. I'm
not willing to to write them off just for the
simple fact that I am high on their offense. I

(06:06):
am high on Lamar Jackson, and they just haven't they
haven't put it together yet. I just my question marks
when I write a team off. I don't feel like
I have those questions for Baltimore. But with that being said,
if they continue to underachieve, then now you have to
ask yourself the question, because I've never found myself for

(06:28):
some strange reason, I always ask myself, did did Buffalo
hit their ceiling? I always it's their window closing. I
always ask that question for Buffalo, But I never really
find myself asking that for Baltimore. I always feel like
Baltimore is always going to be like a perennial contender
for some reason.

Speaker 6 (06:46):
I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
About O and five would and five be concerning?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Yeah, I mean I think, I think, honestly, I think
if they I don't I don't do must wins.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
But I think that they got to win their next game.

Speaker 3 (06:59):
So they're at Dallas.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
I think they need to go win that game.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
They've got the Bills at home, and then they're at Cincinnati.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
I mean, that's a heart that's a heart lane to
be in.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
It's not that crazy to think this team could be
oh and five after hosting an AFC title game on
I just they're going to lose this upcoming week. They're
going to be owing three and then and then Buffalo
is maybe better than well, it's better.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Than I thought.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
So that's not a good good representation. But I look
at it and I go, I've just not sold on Baltimore.
There's something that's a little off. It just the the
off season. You know, the way the first game went,
it went down to the wire. Afterwards, it were just
kind of they didn't want to give credit to Kansas City.
It was all about us, you know.

Speaker 6 (07:50):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
It was Isaiah Likely saying, well, you know, if that's
their best, then good luck in the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (07:55):
Like there was.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
It just feels like there's something not right with Baltimore.
And I said at this offseason, I don't think they're
going to the playoffs this year, and I think they're
gonna be one of those teams. They did say that
they're gonna be.

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Really good about that. I did feels really good about.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Great about it. Yeah, you did say that.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I feel great about it. They got problems. I think
they're still going to John Harbaugh, he discussed the late
game handle we got some late sunies the Baltimore Ravens.
Let's let's take a listen to the Ravens coach.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
That's the biggest thing.

Speaker 7 (08:26):
If those drives don't get extended, you got them backed up,
you're going to be off the field and they don't
have an opportunity to make plays. But you know, when
drive gets extended, you know, for some reason, and then
you're playing you know, really good playmakers, and all of
a sudden, the play gets made, pass gets made here
and there and all that, but you know, we held
up really well. We were fighting right down there. You know,
you got a fourth and forever, and a passing reference
takes it out of the one. You know, usually going

(08:47):
to score from the one. So that's just that's just
hard to hard to control that one.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
I mean, hold on a second, forget what he just said.
Loreno with the call of the year thus far, definitely
does would you repeat what you told LeVar and I
I said, he sounds like Joe Biden. He really does,
a little more coherent, but definitely Joe.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Bidenkes played again, a little more Dykes.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
That's the biggest thing. If those drives don't get extended,
you got him backed up, you're going to be off
the field. They don't have an opportunity on the plays.
You know, when gets extended, you know for some reason,
that's you know, really good playmakers and all of a sudden,
the play gets made, pass gets made here and there, and.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
So sounds like Joe Biden looks.

Speaker 7 (09:29):
Like down there, you know you got a fourth and forever.

Speaker 6 (09:34):
That's a great call.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
You know, usually going to score from the ones.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Yeah, John Harbaugh looks like, Yeah, Joe Biden looks like
the guy from the weekend at Bernie Oh geez.

Speaker 4 (09:45):
To make sure people to get confused.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Yeah, so, uh, good win for the Raiders. I'm trying
to figure out where they pick up their other three
wins for the year. But uh, it's a hell of
a job by Antonio Pearson company going on the road
to get that win. Uh again, Baltimore minus eight. That
was fun fun ride there as well too with that one.
It's another Ravens have got the Cowboys next week and

(10:09):
it's basically going to be a who can bounce back
from a bad performance the previous week between Dallas and Baltimore. Yes,
and Dallas will in Baltimore won't. That's an oh and
three football team. That guy's a bad matchup for that.
That guy that sounds like Joe Biden. That guy is
going to be coaching an OWEN three football team after
next week. Put that in your what happens if they're

(10:31):
not three?

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I mean, what are you gonna do? Maybe I won't
show up.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
I'll be a man about it.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah, you'll be a man about it and.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
Not show up of being an adult? Here is there a.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Chance, like the next time we play sound we can
do it at the beginning of the segment.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Sure, I mean, listen, do you call it?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
So?

Speaker 3 (10:52):
What?

Speaker 4 (10:52):
What sound do you want to? I think I asked
for that the last time.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Okay, So all right, so Lee, keep in mind, past
four minute mark of a segment, no longer can play sound. Right,
That's that's what we're gonna call it, the four minute warning.
You can either get sound in the first four minutes
or you can't play it at all.

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(11:33):
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here before we close up shop here on a Monday morning,
how about Sam Darnold just dealing dealing for the Minnesota
Vikings ninety seven yard touchdown pass to Justin Jefferson, who
ended up leaving the game with a quad injury. The
Vikings say it shouldn't be anything too serious, but they

(13:44):
get it done against the San Francisco forty nine ers.
The Minnesota Vikings are now two to zero on the year.
They're the leaders in the NFC North and Kevin O'Connell,
the head coach of the Minnesota Vikings, spoke about his
starting quarterback after the game yesterday.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
Sam Darnold.

Speaker 11 (14:00):
It's his former team, you know, just the amount of
work that goes into that position on your quarterback journey,
when everybody decides that you cannot play. We always believed
in him and I felt awesome to watch him go
do that thing. So I'm really proud of Sam Darnold.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
Was he emotional there, Yeah, because he can relate right
like he was a former quarterback.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
He was a guy who a lot of people told
him he couldn't do it.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
And unfortunately for most quarterbacks, that's how your career ends.
You know, it goes to a point where everyone's like,
you're the man, You're the man, you're the man, you're
the man.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
You can't do it.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
And it's tough when that's your reality as a player
and it comes to an end. And so for Kevin O'Connell,
he's been able to relive it or find that next
passion in coaching. You know, even when he was playing,
people always talked about how he's gonna be a great
coach one day, and he has been. He's one of
the best offensive mines in the NFL. He's a great coach,

(15:00):
and I think it's played out so far in his
young tenure or short tenure there in Minnesota.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
But I think he's.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
Living through Sam Donald because not only can he relate
to it personally, but he's also seen and just being
around Sam Donald. As much time as you spend with
your coach, especially the guy who's calling the plays, you
understand kind of what makes them tick, their motivations, who
they are, and their experience. And Donald was, you know,

(15:27):
drafted and born into a bad organization, a bad situation.
He bounced around from what it was Carolina, which you know,
again a tough spot to go to to get you know,
trade too with those expectations, and then out in San Francisco,
great spot, just never really got the opportunity. And so
to finally have a shot in Minnesota, even after they

(15:48):
drafted the guy who's supposed to be the starter, he
goes out there and plays awesome, and he's played fantastic
the past two weeks. So I'm happy for him personally,
like I'm living vicariously through him too to a degree,
because there's some common denominators there, and it's like it's
always what you'd kind of hope for, because no one's

(16:10):
trying to say that Sam Donald is going to be,
you know, the equivalent to some of the top guys
in the league as far as talent ability wise. But
he's not as far off as most people think. And
the reality is he's a good situation away a team
with a number one wide receiver on it, a team
with a great play card like Kevin O'Connell, an offensive
line that's that protects him well and then runs well

(16:32):
to give him a shot to showcase what he's capable of.
And he's getting that opportunity now. So it's awesome to
see it. You know, congrats to him, Congrats to the Vikings,
but that was a huge win for them this past week.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Sam Donald, I think everybody talks about a huse everybody.
I think I've heard us discuss how talented Sam Donald
can be arm talent wise, and as has mentioned so well,
in terms of when you take a guy that has
that type of talent but finds himself in some some

(17:08):
bad situations that a lot of times that you never
really get to see how talented a guy can be
at the pro level, and looking at where you know
he's he's played, and what he's had to go through
and what he's endured from what he did when he
was in school, it's a it's a drastic difference, a
vast change and success. And and you always wonder at

(17:32):
what time, at what point is too late too late?
I mean, we're looking at what Geno Smith had a
resurgence in his career. I would not be surprised if
this were an opportunity for Darnald to to resurrect his career.
I would not be because it is a talented team,

(17:55):
and it's a team that's been personnel wise, they've been
ready to win. They have been ready to win. And
this is a team that has a defense. They have
a defense coordinator who knows how to dial up defenses
and call defenses. As I've i highlighted earlier in the show.
I just think that this is one of those deals

(18:15):
where you could be at the wrong place at the
wrong time but be the right person, or you could
be the right person that ends up being at the
right place at the right time. And because I don't
believe in there being a wrong person. I always believe
you're the right person till you're the wrong person. But
I really believe that Sam Donald has been the right

(18:36):
type of person that has just been in the wrong
places at the wrong time. This could be the one
time where he actually ends up in the right place
at the right time and it could help him out
with his career.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
That's why the Baker Mayfield situation in Tampas that's a
good one too, because like that's a guy who bounced around,
you know, he had you know, was obviously in Cleveland,
was in Carolina with Sam.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Donald, won the job, but then ended.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Up with the Rams for a cup of coffee, and
then ended up in Tampa Bay taking over for you know,
after Tom Brady left, had to battle out with Trask
for the starting quarterback job, ended up winning it and
has never looked back. And it's just seeing those guys
get an opportunity. It just that's why I'm I can't
I hate the term bust when it gets thrown out there,

(19:22):
because like Josh Rosen will be labeled as such, and
he's in that same draft class as Baker Mayfield and
Sam Donald. But Josh Rosen was dealt a bag of
crap in his career and never got this next chapter
like a Sam Donald has gotten, like a Baker Mayfield's gotten,
like a Gino Smith has gotten. And it just goes
to show you, like, hey man, just like, don't give

(19:44):
up too soon, because there's still an opportunity. It's why
I'm rooting for Bryce Young. I just don't know that
that opportunity is going to present itself in Carolina.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
The problem is is it's not that the player gives up,
it's the rest of the league gives up on the player.
And that's the hard part is it ends like that
for a lot of guys. You know, there's a lot
of guys who are scouts, there's a lot of guys
who are coaches who get into it because that's the
ending of their career. Ninety nine percent of players, they
don't have the storybook ending the way they would like.

(20:16):
It's just not like the end of their career doesn't
end the exact perfect way they'd like to. You know,
John Elway is one of the select fews where you
win a Super Bowl, everyone thought he's going to retire
and that said sale off the sunset comes back and
they do it again. They went back to back Super Bowls.
Then he's like, all right, now I'm good, Now I'm done.
And it didn't happen like that for Peyton really necessarily.

(20:37):
I mean, I think if you look at the way
his last season went, I don't know if it was
exactly how he imagined it. For Tom Brady, it wasn't
exactly how I'm sure he imagined his career ending, whether
it was staying in New England and trying to win
him or even you know, his last year in Tampa,
you know, not being able to win one. But that's
the game, man, I mean, that's how it works. It

(20:59):
doesn't end exact actly how we'd all like, you know,
but at the end of the day, you just try
to find hopefully the right situation circumstance to allow you
to excel. And the truth of the matter is it's
not that different from everyone else out there who's trying
to find that in whatever profession you're in. I think
you all know when you're a part of a bad
company or a bad organization, you know it and you're like,

(21:21):
I can't wait to get out of here, or this
is a sinking ship.

Speaker 4 (21:25):
You could feel it.

Speaker 5 (21:27):
I mean, I've had enough jobs in my life before,
even like when I was young, to be able to
say like, oh this this place like has their stuff together,
this place doesn't. I mean, it's easy to see how
how those sorts of things operate. And when you see
someff in the news, for example, about various companies, it's
it's kind of a tillte sign oftentimes of where things

(21:48):
are going. It's no different than sports with organizations, the
ones that tend to pop up and have the most
drama all that they tend.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
To be the ones that aren't the most successful.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
I mean, like I look at the Jets, for example,
they're gonna win this week, but to Lvar's point, where
he's harped on their organization forever now, I kind of
sit there and watch and go, yeah, like maybe they'll
build just be something at the end of the season
at some point. But it does feel like there's just
always something there there, there's always something that works against them,

(22:18):
and it's usually top down, it's ownership down, and you
could feel that.

Speaker 4 (22:23):
So I don't know, I always every time, I always.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Like you know, go to a small business or a
small store or something you meet the owner. You get
a sense of how that place is going to operate, yep,
because you get to feel for how they conduct themselves,
how they handle themselves, how the rest of the employees
conduct themselves and handle themselves.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
And you go, okay, like this is going to be successful.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
This isn't you hope as a player you find you
hope as an employee you find that right situation, circumstance
and to get good for Sam Darnold to end up
in this spot. Now, someone's luck, right, We didn't know
JJ McCarthy was gonna get hurt. Otherwise it might be
JJ McCarthy we're talking about as a Rooking is a
second game, you know, playing like this, but that's often

(23:04):
how you find your opportunity. It sometimes comes from luck
or comes from an injury or unluckiness of someone else.

Speaker 4 (23:12):
And that equates then to Sam Darnold's shot, two.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Pros and a cup of Joe. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
fifteen minutes from now, we are going to have the
debut edition of Lee's Leftovers here from the ti Raq
dot Com studios. By the way, Braylen Allen is twenty
years old.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
When I was twenty I was a busboy. He's playing
in the NFL. Scored a couple of touchdowns for the
Jets yesterday. Twenty years old.

Speaker 6 (23:36):
Man.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
It's interesting.

Speaker 5 (23:38):
I think he was set out a tweet this past
weekend because he was watching Wisconsin versus Alabama and Ryan Williams,
who's a seventeen year old wide receiver for Alabama, who's
a freshman phenom, will also be twenty as a rookie
in the NFL, because I promise you he'll be gone

(23:58):
after his third year at Alabama. That good, But if
you think about how crazy that is just to perform
not only when he was at Wisconsin, to perform well
at that age, but also at twenty then in the NFL.
But it's more about the money. That's what people are
missing on. If you're a rookie at twenty, that means

(24:20):
after your third year you're probably getting an extension if
you're showing out well, which means you will get hopefully
three contracts you're rookie, and then two more before thirty.
And the reason why that's so important is because every
single organization views you as a depreciating asset, and by
the time you hit thirty, you're sent to the scrapyard

(24:41):
unless you're one of the most elite at your position,
and even then there's hesitance to give you the long
term deal with the guarantees that you're looking for. So
that's the crazy part. And in the case of Ryan Williams,
I believe he reclassified than to leave early to go
to Alabama, but brilliant Allen.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
I took notice of it because I think he felt
like maybe.

Speaker 5 (25:04):
Not enough people noticed when he was doing it back
during his days of Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Damn man, dang twenty years old. Twenty years old?

Speaker 4 (25:12):
Were you q.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
My rookie year? Yeah, twenty two, So I could have
left after my junior year. I just didn't feel like
I was ready. One of my degree wanted wanted to
try to come back and try to have a shot
at winning the.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
National champions want more degrees, you're going for more.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Well, I don't know about that. I just I know
how hard.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
It is when you leave and you have to go
back to finish everywhere. So many guys told me to
try to get that thing.

Speaker 6 (25:41):
Done yep, And.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
I listened to them because because every single one that
said they're like, man, it's just tough. You start a family,
start this, you start that, they're like, it's really really
tough to go back, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
And really do it right.

Speaker 1 (25:53):
You know, for the guys who really do it, it's
really hard because if it's if you're one of the
guys that didn't really do it, same as when you
were in school, somebody else was doing it. Yeah, somebody
else do it now, and then there's no benefit, there's
no doing correct.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
There you go. It's guys find there you go. If
you really are doing.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
It, well, wouldn't you really be doing it?

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (26:15):
You know what I mean. You don't know what I mean.
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (26:18):
You don't know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
I got game, he got game? She got game?

Speaker 1 (26:22):
Yeah, yeah, I mean i'll tell you one day. I'll
tell you off the air, I mean, and it's pretty
we're shotting the cants.

Speaker 11 (26:29):
You know.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
You ever hear that name?

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I mean, you know I just assumed everything.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Yeah, you ain't never see the program. You know, Bobby
Collins got kicked off the team. You know why I
got kicked off? You got kicked off the team. I mean,
I mean, all of it wasn't just fictional. And I
just thought that was a movie. Yea, I didn't think
that was real that blue chips. I didn't think any
of that blue chew blue chips. You know, hey, you know,
same old, same old. It's kind of all the same.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
By the way, Kyler Murray is now one h the
award for my favorite.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
I love watching him run usually so funny.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
It used to be so fast.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
It makes me laugh. How that dude runs. Man, do
you want to know why, because here's how he looks.
You know that big head mode to play with on
the video games, Yeah, that's kind of what it looks like.
He's got this like big head, big helmet running around
the little body.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
It's like his upper body doesn't move, but his legs
are moving, like Shaggy and Scooby when they used to
run away from the ghosts. You just see like dust
lighting up his feet or his legs just moving.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
He's my favorite player in the league to watch he
be moving.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
He looks like.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
He's fully recovered from the knee injury and he's really
really really.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
Lighting it up right now. If he did the route
where I came bro, we call him. He had nickname
like Little Day Day or something like that. Man, like
you go catch a little Day Day dog, Like nope,
Oh you want you want bet streets, You want bet streets?
All right, I got about I got fifty dollars on
a little day day.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Man, come and meet where we meeting at?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (28:00):
I don't know if a little day day.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
If they're a playoff team, I have no idea how
it's gonna pan. If he stays healthy, they're going to
be competitive.

Speaker 4 (28:08):
They are so much fun to watch.

Speaker 6 (28:10):
They're going to be competitive.

Speaker 3 (28:11):
Like Marvin Harrison junior.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
And he finally came out, finally finally made his presence felt.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
And it was good too.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
It was good because he you know, he had the
little drop lad little dropsies last week. He got off
to a fast start, quick start this week, and and
was he was he was cooking.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
Yeah, the Rams are finished, by the way. I don't
ha to do it.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
It's just injuries.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
The the numbers against the two starts.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Seattle stole one. They they they they gripped it, ripped
it away from from New England because I dang sure
had New England coming into and oh against the Jets
for their their their their throttle, but they got it.
I mean the West, I feel like the NFC West,
they could get it, did you get it?

Speaker 5 (28:58):
Why wouldn't they? Because here's what the NFC West is.
That division everyone plays everyone really really tough.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
They do like throw out the records and all serious.
Just throw out the records.

Speaker 5 (29:10):
Go look at those divisional matchups, and for whatever reason,
they all play each other extremely tough. And I'm not
trying to say that like it doesn't happen in other divisions,
but for example, look at Week one the Saints versus
the Panthers, Like you get blowouts in some of these
other ones where you get the best and the worst,
and there's a big gap between those two teams. For
whatever reason, it doesn't matter. Like the NFC West, they

(29:34):
just always played each other tough. Like I remember when
Fox would throw me like a you know, like a
week seventeen game or something, and and you know, usually
let's say it's not a great matchup or something, but
I would always get psyched up for him because I'm like, hell, yeah,
it's gonna be an NFC West game. They're always close.
It's just it's how that division works. And this was
one where the game was more out of hand. But

(29:56):
it was surprising, right because I think we all look
at LA as a playoff team or playoff contender, but
ariz gonna beat the doors off them.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
And it was a draft.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
And by the way, that's huge improven Farrison from week
one to week two the way their offense looks so
so kudos to Kyler Murray and and their crew and
everyone else, because that was not the same team that
we saw in week one.

Speaker 4 (30:16):
It looks dramatically different.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
And by the way, speaking of which, you were on
the call for Colin Kaepernick's final.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
Game in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
So I don't know why NCS Niners those late games.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
I mean, I think people said fore gone conclusion that
the Niners win the NFC West. But man, bro, I
think if Kyler Murray stays healthy, it's between Arizona and
Sam fran to get it. Jeez, I'm telling you, I
think Kyler Murray all by himself is good enough. That
good you say, Calamary, Kaylamary, Calamar Klamary. You know, I

(30:53):
like my Kyler Murray personally with a little bit of uh,
you know, some of the what's.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
It called cocktails?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Yeah, by the way, yes, thank you, Daila, thank you, dear.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Do you remember God?

Speaker 5 (31:08):
Good do you remember that was a two win San
Francisco team?

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Mind you?

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Okay, do you remember what the score of that game was?
It was Week seventeen, No. Twenty five, twenty three. Uh,
Seattle ended up winning by two. But that's what I'm saying.
It's like there's they're always they're always tight matchups in
that division. I have no idea why San Francisco actually won.
I remember the week before by one over the La Rams.

(31:37):
It's it's weird.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
That division has as.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Much parody as like any and you can go back
through the years and look at it. Last night's outcome
was an outlier, but it does go to show you
because the Rams, I believe are favored in that one, Like,
they just matched up extremely well versus one another.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
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(33:45):
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Speaker 10 (34:37):
Alright, all right, I'm doing let's go all right, Well, hey,
let's let's look ahead with our leftovers we got. Obviously,
we've got Eagles hosting the Falcons for Monday Night Football,
and the Eagles are five and a half point favorites,
and they're gonna be missing A J.

Speaker 6 (34:54):
Brown.

Speaker 8 (34:54):
A J.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Brown got a hammy issue.

Speaker 10 (34:57):
I believe that's right, missing the Yeah, yeah, don't you
eats Hamhawk?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I mean, Kirk Cousins and Prime.

Speaker 4 (35:05):
Are you concerned about him at all? He's not moving
around that well.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Which was to be expected, but it does seem like
he's getting the ball out of his hand quick.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
I yes.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
And I also think you know he suffered the injury
what week eight of last year? Like, I don't know
how long it takes Like how long is it dad?

Speaker 4 (35:23):
For an achilles? Uh?

Speaker 6 (35:25):
Forever?

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Well, like if you had to come back and play
like Rogers a year? Yeah, so we're like a full
full calendar year. Yeah, so we still got to got
a little ways to go.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
I mean, but this, I mean, yeah, Aaron like proved
that the curve is a little lot shorter, a lot smaller.
So I just think to be healthy and to to
feel normal, which if that's possible, Orthotics helped with with
Achilles injuries too, like cushioned orthotics and stuff like that

(35:57):
like that you get made, you know, I don't know,
but I mean this is this is around the year though,
isn't it. No we Kate, Yeah, he's probably still filling
it a little bit, a little ways to get I.

Speaker 6 (36:10):
Limped for three years. Three years after I limped, it
was a strut.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Maybe yeah, maybe it was just a natural limp I
got you come on, man, keep going?

Speaker 6 (36:24):
Well else, Lee, Well, what are we talking about it?

Speaker 10 (36:26):
Well, Jonas, you're a champion of the people, specifically the
Chain Gang.

Speaker 6 (36:30):
Uh tough ta yeah, Jonas? And was dang Jonas?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Okay, yeah, technology technology based. I'm more of a hard
hat lunch pale guy. Give me the chain Gang.

Speaker 11 (36:42):
Good.

Speaker 10 (36:43):
Well, it was a tough day for the Chain Gang yesterday.

Speaker 4 (36:45):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (36:46):
In that Bears Texans game, one of the Chain Gang
members tripped over a pylon, hit his head pretty hard,
was later seen carted off. Okay, uh, he was carted off.
He's He is reported to be okay now.

Speaker 4 (36:57):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (36:58):
There was also another man who received CPR collapse on
the sideline during the Ravens game. He left the field
again reported to be okay now, and Justin Fields also
ran into a member, knocking him. A pretty good tough
day for the Chain Gang out.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
I mean, look, you know they're out there working their
ass off, and you know this is the risk that come.
I mean, it's why these guys I feel.

Speaker 5 (37:20):
Like you are like converting into Chris Collinsworth. What do
you mean You're impression isn't that far off? Sometimes when
you talk on the radio, listen.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
I mean a great broadcast or great broadcaster. I don't
know what to tell you.

Speaker 4 (37:33):
But listen.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
I want the Chang Gang here forever.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
And if if we.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Got to have a couple of these incidents pop up
to remind people about the value of that position, then
so be it. We don't need technology taking over everything
in football. Go for the Chang Gang, guys. What else
we got?

Speaker 10 (37:50):
Ly also a tough day over at FedEx Field. A
bunch of brown spots everyone was noticing on the field.
I guess something's going on. Malfunction. Malfunction is what the
spokesperson for the for the field set. Is something wrong
with the sprinkler heads, I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
For your team, your organization. What the hell is going
on there? They're not watering the grass.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
I thought I thought they fixed that when Dan Snide.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
They did win.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, all right, they went nice shooting, nice shootout for
Washington there.

Speaker 6 (38:23):
That's that's a nice way to end the show. We won,
Damn
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