September 17, 2024 • 37 mins
Titan’s Brian Callahan delivers tough but appreciated love to Will Levis. A shakeup in BQ’s Top 15. Plus, a tough decision for Ryan Tannehill and much!
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So Will Levis had a little bit of a mishap,
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and I think I did see this stat that the
Titans are the first team to have a I think
it's a pick six, a blocked punt, and like some
other thing happened in consecutive games for the first time
in like well over twenty years, like it hasn't happened before.
Levis had another awful turnover and fumbled the ball late,
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just not great, and he got screamed at by Brian Callahan,
the coach there, who was not happy about it, and
he laid into him on the sideline. And so he
was asked yesterday whether or not the coach of the
Titans was if you regretted his handling of that in
the moment, and this is outsounded.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I think the camera caught it pretty clear, if I
had to guess. So, yeah, I was upset. It was domb.
It was the same exact thing you did last week,
and he cost us points in a red zone. And
that's that's that is what it is. That he's a
grown up and he knows better, and so you know,
I was really irritated that he cost us three points
in a game that we probably needed it. Coach Will Hard,
but you know I do. I do love him pretty
hard too, and I think that that's okay. I think
we can we can have those moments. And unfortunately an
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intense moment got captured because I'm also the head coach,
not just the offensive coordinator, and so those those conversations
don't all get caught on television and that happens a lot,
but mine happened to be in front of everybody. So
I don't regret it, but I do coach Will Hard
and I think he's accepting of that coaching.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And I thought he did a lot of things a
lot better.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Does it bother you guys?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It is not wrong.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
He is truthful. Yeah, I mean that's real, raw motions.
And I mean, if anyone who saw the video clip,
I will go ahead and give you the tea leaves.
But he basically said, what the f are you doing?
And no, I mean it was one of the most
head scratching plays sometime first two weeks you've s and
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that's probably what you thought at times watching Will Love
is the first couple of weeks is it's almost like
he's try to do too much and it's hurting their team,
and they are not a team that can afford to
have a quarterback make those sorts of mistakes and overcome them.
They're just they're not They're not there yet as a team,
and they're not that team right now anyway. So I
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appreciate the honesty. Like I've I've been around Cali before,
back during you know, our time we're both in Denver,
h you always felt like he was going to be
a head coach. And I think one of the things
that players appreciate the most is honesty. And LeVar tell
me if I'm different in this, But it doesn't matter
how it comes across. Either you could be super nice
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kind of gets comes off as soft sometimes though.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Or you can be an a whole.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
It doesn't doesn't matter. As long as you're honest and
you're being truthful as a coach with a player, they'll
respect you.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Respect that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, Yeah, unless you're too honest too many times, and
it's kind of negative. I think guys have a hard
time with it because sometimes you know, I had a
coach say, if I tell you the truth, can we
still be friends? Because really, guys get too sensitive at
times being told the truth or at least what is
perceivably I think have.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
The problem there is like I don't think that you
can be friends with a coach, at least not while
you're playing well.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think it crosses a line in my opinion. Do
you think that's just me?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Yeah, because I think you can be friendly. It's like,
you know, especially when they're in a in a way
they're not a superior, but there's someone who ultimately the
figure though. Yeah, and they could impact your your job
status in a way, right, Like if they go to
ask your coach amen, like what's going on and it
comes down to the coach getting fired or you're getting benched,
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you're getting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Bench Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
So I just I think that relationship is always hard
to say it's it's a friendship at least in the
moment when you're working together like that.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I've had coaches I've had friendships with and that was,
you know, for one reason or another. I would say
it was just based off of relationship dynamic in terms
of seeing what was going on in that building. I
think everybody at some point was, or at least when
you got to a certain coaching staff where it's almost
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like you're looking at them as dead men walking coming
in to begin with, like you you have no idea
what you're getting yourself into, and then you start to
share stories, you learn about people's families, different things like that.
I will say probably one or two, like George Edwards
that was my dog, like my friend, like as my coach,
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and you know, you just got to I think that
you just got to be very responsible in understanding that
you know, we could be cool, but our jobs are
our jobs. And I think that's what ultimately, you know,
came down for me, Like if I felt a certain
type of way, I wasn't going to not say it
because we you know, we were pretty close, or he
wasn't going to not coach me hard because we weren't close.
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So I don't know, I just always felt as though,
and you're you know, there is that idea of understanding
that there's a fine line there between somebody who cares
about your your well being and your welfare at least
appears to versus someone who is just coaching you like
doing your job. I think coaching is one of those
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unique one of those unique jobs where you have to
try to find a healthy balance because if a guy
doesn't feel like you have any type of care towards
them or any type of feeling towards them, Like you said,
like truthful is one thing, but genuine and nature is also,
you know, another thing. And I feel like you got
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to form some type of a relationship with a coach
if you're going to feel that they genuinely are in
you know, have your your best interest in mine as
a group or as a player, which that's not necessarily
what it has to be, but I would like for.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It to be there.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I was gonna ask you as this as well, like
does it bother you when you hear people on the
outside go God? That was a bit harsh, like he shouldn't,
you know, take that approach like that. He was very animated,
like they're you know, and they're here high school parents. Well,
like cause Callahan's his dad's a coach, like a legendary coach.
He's grown up around coaching his entire life. I think
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he could read whether or not Will Levis can handle
that type of coaching or not. I think I think
he's been around it enough to know there's certain guys
maybe you can talk to in certain moments and other
ones that you can't. And Will Levis strikes me as
the type of guy that responds to hard coaching and
probably didn't take it personally or didn't take offense to it.
But it's people on the outside who want to like
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speak for him and say, well, and a coach shouldn't
take that kind of approach. Well, do you know you're
not in the room.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, Look, this is an instance where this was one
of those like head scratching, bone head to plays. So look,
there's a way of being coached, and there's a way
of you know what's happening on the field and talking
to a player. And to me, that's like that one
moment is in this shouldn't symbolize how Brian Callahan coaches.
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And I'm not like speaking for him. I'm just saying
it's one moment where much like everyone else who was
a Titans fan, anyone else who was betting on the
Titans or as a Will loves fan, was like, what
the f were you doing? I mean that that would
have been the same question my mom or dad would
ask me if that was me after a game, like
what the f were you doing? So, you know, it's
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one play, it's one instance. I don't think you need
to overblow and make it about like how he coaches.
That's that's a small, small percentage of the time how
he coaches. But the truth is it's the NFL, Like,
who gives a crap at that point? If you're making
those sorts of boneheaded plays, you're not gonna be in
the NFL very long. And they're all adults, and as
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yeah as you said, like this is your profession, you're
all adults like it. Like people on the outside of
like you don't. It's hard to understand the intensity of
the environment of an NFL locker room and team and
season and sidelines and all that, because there's few jobs
that have the type of pressure that you have. When
you have seventeen opportunities to prove what you are, whetherwise
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as a team individual coach, that's all you get. So
it's it's it's hard then to hear other people talk about,
you know, how how a guy's going to coach. It's like, dude,
it's you can't compare it to anything you've ever experienced
before at any other level because the money is so big,
the stakes are so big, the intensity of it all,
it's all so big that you just can't look at
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it and at any other lens and say, oh, this is,
you know, comparable to this. It's not. It's the NFL.
It's unique in its own sense.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
And then you know they probably feel at this point
in time, listen, we should be two and oh, like
they could have won that game, should have won the
Chicago game. And Brian Callaghan's probably like, dude, like.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I know, those are so bad. I forget they have
a win.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yan and they shouldn't and they shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, in a way, neither should the Jets. Yeah, and
just being honest with you.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And Tennessee week and Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I think Tennessee should have beat them. No, I think
some of them mistakes, the block punts, the Will Levis
moments that we're talking about, I think you you eliminate those.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They lose that game.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, according uh so, Tennessee became the first team to
have a pump block, throw an interception and lose a
fumble and consecutive game since the O two Chargers.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So it still almost won that game. Yeah, Well, but
it took the entire game for them to lose the game.
So you take those those mistakes away. They still had
the lead, didn't they have the lead at one point,
like they had it for a while, didn't they like
till the end of the game, right.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, But it wasn't like in Atlanta Philly situation, like
the Jets were, you know, in some control in that
game at least for a decent amount and then you know,
it just kind of fell apart. And then Will Levis
made a nice scramble play and they showed Robert Sala
on the sideline. It looked like he was going to
run to the end zone and could not figure out
how he got out of the grasp of the pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But there was no one.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Jets were leading for like what almost the entirety of
the quarter.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but what it looked like in the first half,
and then then they took the lead back in the third.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
They they were tied like a little before half, and
then what Tennessee kicked the field goal right before halftime,
and then Rogers then came out and scored right away
in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
They were ahead.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
It wasn't it wasn't really like that.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You could say Tennessee could have gone either way.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, to me, it could have gone either way,
Like it didn't look like that the New York Jets
were dominated in the game. I know that that was
a takeaway. In the second half, they kind of controlled
the game, all right. I mean they shut him out
in the in the fourth quarter. That it looks like
they controlled the game ten seven seven seven in the
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four Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I don't know who cares.
Wasn't the game anything. I'm gonna keep working to to
put the Jets. I would keep working to put the
Jets down. So, I mean, y'all get ready, you.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Can join Pete then when he joins us later on today,
trying to make a case for all the things that
he did wrong to make You've never met someone more
stubborn than Pete Prescott?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Can we So when we bring Pete on, can we
play the sound of the will of us fumble?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Like?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Can we play that sound as we bring it in?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Why are you asking us? It was a question for
Lee whether he's capable of doing this.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I just want to know whether or not that can
be piped in when Pete comes on. So, Lee, Lee,
is that possible? Can we put that together? It should
be no problem just to try and trying to get
a rise out of him here on a Tuesday, it
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Speaker 6 (15:18):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we kicked this thing off
by looking at this week's poll compared to the last
week's poll. Say, at the number one spot, it's still
the University of Texas absolutely drumming UTSA last week fifty
six to seven. Now there's a bit of a concern
Quinn yours left the game with an abdominal injury of
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some store or strain. No worries though, as everyone knows,
Arch Manning is waiting in the wings. That's right, son
of Cooper Manning, nephew of Peyton and Eli Manning, and
he did not disappoint. Over two hund and twenty yards,
passing four touchdowns, ran for a touchdown as well five
total on the day and their big win over UTSA.
They've got the best win of the sea. That's why,
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much like last week, there's still at number one in
my opinion, but up to spots to number two. It's Tennessee.
It's another ut if you will. Drumming kent State seven
one and nothing. Now, this really didn't have much to
do with who they were playing. It's the fact of
combining their dominance with what we saw a week ago,
being a top ten team at that point in NC State,
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and drumming them. This team is as talented and as
good as any in college football. You can almost make
a case maybe they should be number one, but as
of right now, I've got them number two. Down one
spot is Georgia. Yes, a close win on the road,
They're at Kroger Field in Lexington, Kentucky, reminded me a
little bit of that Georgia Miszoo game dating back to
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previous years. But look, at the end of the day,
Carson Beck, Georgia found a way to win. I do
have the dock them though, one because it just felt
like something wasn't quite there, and especially versus a Kentucky
team that plays good defense but has struggled mightily this
year offensively speaking. And down one spot, and this Moore
has to do with the fact that they're coming off
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the buys the Ohio State University. They'll have their chances
to get back into playing. Marshall will be there for
Big New Kickoff, Big Noon Saturday. But they've also been
dominant this season. They may have the best defense in
the country. The offense, it's still coming along under officse
cordator Chip Kelly, as Will Howard tries to kind of
settle into that this may be the best group of
wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
By the way, Chip.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Kelly has ever had as a play caller or head
coach ever in his career at the college level, So
that's kind of saying something. But that's the reality of
where Ohio State's at up to number five. Marchha State
at number five is Old Miss staying the exact same.
Jackson Dart's putting on a clinic. He's leading the country
and passing right now. But another team at drum Wake Force,
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forty to six. They actually beat them so bad they're
supposed to do it home and home apparently, and Wake
Force says, nope, you know, buy out of it. So
Wake Forest actually paid Old Miss one million dollars to
have to not play them again next season. So that's
how bad to Miss beat down Wake Forest up one spot.
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The number six is Alabama. They get a nice road
win going up to Madison, Wisconsin to beat the Badgers. Now,
the game was pretty lopsided, and that usually is the
case when you lose your starting quarterback early in the game,
like Wisconsin did, although I don't know that it would
have made much of a difference. Obama is still one
of the best teams in the country. Jalen Milroll putting
on a clinic through the air with something this downfield
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passing was fun to watch. Down on spots Miami to
number seven. Honestly, I've kind of been battling back and
forth because I love cam Ward the guys put his
name in conversation for the Heisman, but also being a
top ten pick.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
The way he's playing so far this year, he is
the high tide.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I'll keep saying this that raises all boats there in
South Florida. So keep an eye on Miami moving forward
to take care of the acc player. But they drummed
Ball State sixty two to nothing. UFC USC. I've got
a number eight, same spot as they were just a
week ago. Another team that I think again, the defense
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looks improved.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Probably what's flying under the radars.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Their offensive line much bigger, much more physical, they're running
the football just it feels a little bit different right
now for Southern cal as they begin to head into
to Big Ten play coming up this week. Number nine,
Maszoo up to spots. Not saying that I'm not a
believer in this team, but I needed to see them
get a good win. They got one against the Bill
O'Brien led Boston College this past week in Colombia, having
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to come back by the way in this one, but
a top twenty five ranked opponent. A nice win for
Britty Cook and the boys. I got them up at
number nine right now. Oregon stays at number ten, Penn
State down a couple spots to the by This doesn't
have anything to do with Penn State necessarily, more to
do with some of what's happening out around them.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Utah same spot at number twelve.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Kansas State up one spot, but Kansas State it's also
got a tough matchup this week. They have to still
Water take on Oklahoma State. It's down one that sits
at number fourteen in my poll, and we'll see how
those two score off. Winner is going to be in
the driver's seat of the Big twelve, or at least
looking to face potentially Utah and I know it's early,
but that's where we're at. And then Nebraska and number
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fifteen seeing spot as they were just a week ago,
they still continue to deliver, drumming Northern Iowa thirty four
to three. And that is your top fifteen heading in
to week four of the college football season.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I'm talking about right there. Well, uh, put that in
your ap pipe and smoke it, bam. I'm talking about
smoke it USC Michigan. How we feel about USC Michigan.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
You got to feel good about I mean Michigan bench.
Davis Warren is starting quarterback this past week, so it's
the Alex Orgy Show and he has shown it to
not be able to throw the football effectively very well.
So that's been one of the reasons why Davis Warren,
who's a form of walk on tremendous story for those
who don't know, he battled leukemia back when he was
in high school and was kind of directed He's from
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the South Bay area, but he was directed to go
to Jim Harbaugh Michigan and they thought he was the
right kind of quarterback for them. Ended up earning a
scholarship and now earned an opportunity to lead start the
season as the Wolverine starting quarterback with three picks last
week just looks The offense just looks completely a shade
of what it was a year ago under JJ McCarthy.
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So they're going to Alex Orgy. He's more of a
work in progress as a passer. Big physical specimen though,
So if you like running the football, you're going to
see a lot of that. It'll be interesting to see
what they do offensively to be able to combat what
is a potent offense. I mean, the wide receivers are
legit at Southern cal. They've got speed, they've got size,
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they can make big plays down the field. The running
games there too for them. So it feels like Wink Martindale,
the defensive coordinator for Mission's going to have his hands full.
The one thing I'll say and to keep an eye on,
is how much pressure Michigan brings. Wig Martin Neal has
always been known for this. He did it at the
NFL level. He brings constant pressure, sometimes too much, and
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guys get out of their rush lands and get out
of their gaps. It creates seams on some of those
running plays or creates big opportunity in the passing game.
So I would say, you know, USC is by far
the favor right now. Michigan just does not look like
a team that's trying to defend a national championship.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Now, how close was Notre dameed being in the top fifteen.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
They were close. I had them at number sixteen. They
were right on the outside looking in. But I couldn't
put a team that's two and one over a three
to no Nebraska team at this point, especially the way
Nebraska's looked. It was a great win versus Perdue, but
Perdue was also voted to be the last place team
in the Big Ten as far as eighteen teams, So
I don't want to make too much of it, but
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that was the type of response that I think if
you're a Notre Dame fan, you're hoping for, you're looking for.
But there's still some concerns. I mean, the starting quarterback
doesn't have a touchdown pass and we're heading into week
four of college football, and meanwhile, you're back up and
third stringer both were able to showcase the ability to
throw the football down the field. So that's a big
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time concern. And they had a number of injuries. We
lost one offensive lineman for the rest of the season,
a starter, lost another one for a period of time,
lost one of our edge players for the rest of
the season. So the injuries are also starting to mount up,
and that would be the concern I think heading to
this week versus Miami Ohio, you're gonna say, hey, it's
a MAX school, but look, Miam of Ohio is one
of the best teams in the MAC. If they struggle
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versus Northern Illinois, look out for Miama Ohio. Then at
this point, especially with some of the offensive line issues
they're facing, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, we
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Speaker 4 (23:43):
College next week doing the show there and they'll be
playing Illinois, and we found out that's going to be
a night game. So that's the open.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
I'll say this man, do not sleep on this Illinois team.
Brett Bilama. But Luke Altmeyer, their quarterback who transferred I
believes at Old mess Uh he can sling it. They
got some playmakers too on the outside.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
He has added a different element to this team and
they've typically been more of a running team, and it's
been the quarterback player that that at times has held
them back. Not anymore. All Meyer presents them a great
opportunity to actually make some plays in the passing game.
So this this will be a bigger challenge than I
think people realize. Remember they knocked off Kansas, who was
a top twenty team earlier this season.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Two weeks of preparation, We're good, ready to go. Yeah,
we'll be good, I hope. So, man, No, we're good.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Some slow starts. I green's not a relax relaxed quet,
just one.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm just being objective. We've got to objective. So we
got two weeks. Any quotes, any any good cut well subjective?
Is any good coach worth?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Whatever, object I don't want to object that off, you know,
I want to be subjective purely on this one.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I mean, we've got two weeks to prepare for him.
We're good, y'all. Worry about y'all teams out.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That Illinois goes on the road to Lincoln, pulls off
the upside of Nebraska. Next thing you know, they're coming in,
firing on all cylinders. Penn State struggles against Kent State
and who knows all of a sudden, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
John?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm just saying, what are you doing? Who's your dads?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Where did you go to school? Who do you play? For?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Thousand?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What are you doing right now?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It adds a little spice to a night game there
at Beaver Stadium. I'm listening. I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Two weeks to prepare.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I mean, is it a white out? Are they doing
a white out?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Good enough for a white out?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Who's Illinois is not good enough for a white out?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Right now? They're not good enough for white Outkay?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
So you guys don't consider.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It generally, Yeah, generally it's it's Ohio State or or
Michigan that we do our white outs.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You at least just depends on Yeah, I know. Right.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
The problem for Illinois is they have to get.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Through Nebraska first.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Nebraska is as you said, Jonas is playing Illinois Saturday night,
eight pm on five.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
We have Kent.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's Friday night. Actually it's Friday Friday week. Three weeks
to prepare for Illinois. By the way, because we have Kent,
not by I said.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
It's basically two by weeks in a row. Yeah, you're good. Yeah,
that's gonna be uh that's gonna be fun. So and
that's the that's their big ten opener Penn State. I think,
so it'll be uh night game there. And so if
people in Philly are tailgating at five thirty in the
morning for a night game for the Eagles, is that
(26:38):
about the same what they're doing in State College to
get ready.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
For that night game fifteen hours the morning. I mean
we tailgate in the morning. That's that's a night.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
One times the tailgate start.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Mine started at nine thirty last last, last game thirty time?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Is the kick seven or seven thirty pm? Yes? Oh wow, yees.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You got you got? You got ten hours?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
They send you a picture.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm gonna send ja a video of what what ends
up happening today?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They serve alcohol in the stadium?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Is this the video of it?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It's not, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
We didn't catch the mosh pit on camera, but there
were some interesting moments caught on film.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Have you ever called it de lapping, because I've heard
it's called that before.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I mean, so, you got ten hours and they now
serve booze in the stadium. So people are just a disaster.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I mean, bro, just buckled. Yeah, I mean that's yeah,
it's just a part of it.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You know, you got to know how to pace yourself.
You got to know how to do it. You know,
that's all just comes along with it. You know, you
just got to know how to do it the right way. Yeah,
otherwise it could go horribly wrong for you. I just
sent you Jesus.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That's just a job video. That's a great setup though. Well,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
You guys have baseball on the back.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I guess you're out a baseball.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Feel my god, Yeah, it looks like Mike McDaniel it is.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
That guy needs to talk to the lapse himself.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh hey, brouh. It was. It was ugly, it was.
It got ugly, got ugly, but but it was fun.
It was a great time. And you got a rally.
You know, when when you go when you find yourself
going harder than what you originally anticipated, you heard, well
you got a little harder than what you originally anticipated
(28:50):
that how hard you were going to go. You got
a rally. That's all. You got a rally. Check that
video out. That's a job too. And yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Little little p and r Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Little and wonders not me.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm done.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, there is no rallying after that. Once it Once
it leaves, that's a sign that it does not want
to be in there anymore. And uh, maybe just get
a glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I got snuck up on. I did get snuck up
on last week. Been during the tailgate. It snuck up
on me. I shook it off, but it did sneak
up at you.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
P and R.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
No, No, I didn't have to. I wasn't that bad.
I didn't feel sick off of it. I just it
snuck up on me. Like it was like, oh, like
my vision got a little blurry for like two seconds,
like dang, Like all right, we hear like I'm really
doing like college tailgates now again in my life, in
my later part of my life.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You know, well listen, it'll be a good time there
sneak college.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, you'll you'll be able to be a part of this.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It'll be interesting if Lee is a part of our
tailgate and he gets with my man, then I sent
you on the video, that will be pretty entertaining.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It seems like a terrible idea. I mean, it just
seems like it'd be fun.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
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have started to pop up throughout the league, two of
being out and other situations throughout the NFL, the big
(31:53):
name that's out there is Ryan Tannehill, who's currently a
free agent, but apparently according to Pro Football Talk, they
are saying that Ryan Tannehill it will be very selective
regarding his next destination. So he's got money, He's had
a hell of a run in his NFL career thus far,
(32:14):
not bad for a guy who was a wide receiver
at Texas A and M, and so now he's got
an opportunity to kind of pick his next spot if
something were.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
To pop up.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
There were people that assumed, Hey, maybe green Bay could
be a landing spot, maybe Miami's a possible destination. But
Ryan Tannehill is going to wait this thing out and
I guess be very selective about it. So who knows.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Maybe he wants to be selective about it because I
believe that he wants to, you know, get paid what
he believes his his services are worth. And you touched
on how much he's made in his career. I believe
over the course of his career has made almost two
hundred million dollars. Jeez, yeah, is that much? One hundred
and ninety five almost hundred ninety six million dollars?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Nice? Damn.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
So I mean at this point in time, it's like, yeah,
he's probably joined family life. He's able to look at
it and say which team gives me the best chance
to win? Too. I mean, he's played long enough and
been a part of it long enough too where you
don't want to go to a dumpster fire situation, right,
And so as you sort of look through the teams
that have a need, for example, and you know, have
(33:18):
the cap space probably to pay him what he's looking for.
You know, green Bay has sixteen million roughly in cap space.
At the moment, So is he going to do it
for that right eat up all their cap for the
rest this year. Love's probably not gonna be out that long,
so it doesn't really make much sense. And they just
won with Milike Willis. You know they traded for him
for a reason. You look at Miami, they have about
(33:40):
twenty four million in cap space. They just obviously signed
Tyler Huntley, so maybe they feel like they're good to
get through this period of time without them, unless you're
talking about a team like Las Vegas, who might say, hey,
you feel like we need an upgrade with what we've
got right now. But they just won this past week
with Minshew, So I'll be curious to see what like
true interest is out there for him, uh, from some
(34:03):
of these teams that actually have the cap space, because
like if you look at the Giants, for example, Daniel Jones,
a lot of pressure on him. They're talking about benching
him or moving on. What you just put a bunch
of money into him. You got Drew locked there. But
they don't have much much cap space either, so I'm
not sure that makes a ton of sense. So I'm
just not really sure like where he would sign at
this point, you know, based on you know, the availability,
(34:27):
what's out there. I mean, Donald's played really well. They're
too and oh in Minnesota. So I'm not sure that
makes a lot of sense either.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
If Dalton doesn't prove out in Carolina, why the.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Hell would he want any part of the Carolina.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Fan Because three point eight million in cap space, they
actually have the fewest of any team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
God, they don't even do that well. Geez, Like, what
does Carolina do well? Like, now that we're on the thing,
you suck barbecue?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Barbecue, We've got some. They've got some good beaches, good
beach Town's great golf yep. I mean are you talking
about that the team or the team?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, I don't have much for you there. Really nice,
they're super nice. They got that big drum yep. They
got that big drum they hit in the stadium. Although
I told you I.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Was calling that that Vikings Gardner.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
They started hitting that that drum during the Vikings game
and then everyone started doing the skull chant, so the
Panthers realize they got to stop hitting the drum.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
They got Sam Mills the statue, Yeah, they do have that.
They always had that. I mean, they always reference back
to Sam.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
They've had a lot of great players that have come
through there, whether it's Julius Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
JP is a beast, Steve Smith, beasts who else?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
John Casey okay, saying Mohammed good, Jake del Home, you're
going great with moosh uh back, but you're going great,
Deshaun Foster. I'll go with de Foss, but you're going great.
I'm trying to give them some hope here, like trying to.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I banged with de Foss and he was a bad
boy for them.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
He bangs. Y'all didn't even say Cam. You didn't say Cam,
Did you say sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Cam Newton?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, sorry about that killer killer. Cam. Maybe had a
few good players.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
They had some players the linebackers, Thomas Davis linebackers now
Jonas Dan Morgan, come on, man, Dan, he like the
GM now part of that front office. I wonder what
I wish we could hear what he's thinking, Like what's
going on there? From his perspective.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
There's got to be football people in the building that
are like death.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
You guys probably are like, oh man, this thing is
working out for to tackle someone?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, Like, why do you think we're so valient man.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
It's more that I just that's what goes on in
my head. I just feel like we're a cerebral across
the uh you think there, like I would be in
a boardroom looking at somebody like I will f your day.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
All.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's why I know. That's where you don't go the
direction I want. If we can't do this the right way,
then let's do it the wrong way. Take you out, Yeah, yeah,
I can dig it. Well, I'm gonna take a quick
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So Will Levis had a little bit of a mishap,
(01:24):
and I think I did see this stat that the
Titans are the first team to have a I think
it's a pick six, a blocked punt, and like some
other thing happened in consecutive games for the first time
in like well over twenty years, like it hasn't happened before.
Levis had another awful turnover and fumbled the ball late,
(01:47):
just not great, and he got screamed at by Brian Callahan,
the coach there, who was not happy about it, and
he laid into him on the sideline. And so he
was asked yesterday whether or not the coach of the
Titans was if you regretted his handling of that in
the moment, and this is outsounded.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
I think the camera caught it pretty clear, if I
had to guess. So, yeah, I was upset. It was domb.
It was the same exact thing you did last week,
and he cost us points in a red zone. And
that's that's that is what it is. That he's a
grown up and he knows better, and so you know,
I was really irritated that he cost us three points
in a game that we probably needed it. Coach Will Hard,
but you know I do. I do love him pretty
hard too, and I think that that's okay. I think
we can we can have those moments. And unfortunately an
(02:28):
intense moment got captured because I'm also the head coach,
not just the offensive coordinator, and so those those conversations
don't all get caught on television and that happens a lot,
but mine happened to be in front of everybody. So
I don't regret it, but I do coach Will Hard
and I think he's accepting of that coaching.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
And I thought he did a lot of things a
lot better.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Does it bother you guys?
Speaker 3 (02:49):
It is not wrong.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
He is truthful. Yeah, I mean that's real, raw motions.
And I mean, if anyone who saw the video clip,
I will go ahead and give you the tea leaves.
But he basically said, what the f are you doing?
And no, I mean it was one of the most
head scratching plays sometime first two weeks you've s and
(03:12):
that's probably what you thought at times watching Will Love
is the first couple of weeks is it's almost like
he's try to do too much and it's hurting their team,
and they are not a team that can afford to
have a quarterback make those sorts of mistakes and overcome them.
They're just they're not They're not there yet as a team,
and they're not that team right now anyway. So I
(03:32):
appreciate the honesty. Like I've I've been around Cali before,
back during you know, our time we're both in Denver,
h you always felt like he was going to be
a head coach. And I think one of the things
that players appreciate the most is honesty. And LeVar tell
me if I'm different in this, But it doesn't matter
how it comes across. Either you could be super nice
(03:56):
kind of gets comes off as soft sometimes though.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Or you can be an a whole.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
It doesn't doesn't matter. As long as you're honest and
you're being truthful as a coach with a player, they'll
respect you.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Respect that.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Yeah, Yeah, unless you're too honest too many times, and
it's kind of negative. I think guys have a hard
time with it because sometimes you know, I had a
coach say, if I tell you the truth, can we
still be friends? Because really, guys get too sensitive at
times being told the truth or at least what is
perceivably I think have.
Speaker 6 (04:28):
The problem there is like I don't think that you
can be friends with a coach, at least not while
you're playing well.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I think it crosses a line in my opinion. Do
you think that's just me?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Yeah, because I think you can be friendly. It's like,
you know, especially when they're in a in a way
they're not a superior, but there's someone who ultimately the
figure though. Yeah, and they could impact your your job
status in a way, right, Like if they go to
ask your coach amen, like what's going on and it
comes down to the coach getting fired or you're getting benched,
(04:58):
you're getting.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Bench Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 6 (05:00):
So I just I think that relationship is always hard
to say it's it's a friendship at least in the
moment when you're working together like that.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I've had coaches I've had friendships with and that was,
you know, for one reason or another. I would say
it was just based off of relationship dynamic in terms
of seeing what was going on in that building. I
think everybody at some point was, or at least when
you got to a certain coaching staff where it's almost
(05:29):
like you're looking at them as dead men walking coming
in to begin with, like you you have no idea
what you're getting yourself into, and then you start to
share stories, you learn about people's families, different things like that.
I will say probably one or two, like George Edwards
that was my dog, like my friend, like as my coach,
(05:54):
and you know, you just got to I think that
you just got to be very responsible in understanding that
you know, we could be cool, but our jobs are
our jobs. And I think that's what ultimately, you know,
came down for me, Like if I felt a certain
type of way, I wasn't going to not say it
because we you know, we were pretty close, or he
wasn't going to not coach me hard because we weren't close.
(06:16):
So I don't know, I just always felt as though,
and you're you know, there is that idea of understanding
that there's a fine line there between somebody who cares
about your your well being and your welfare at least
appears to versus someone who is just coaching you like
doing your job. I think coaching is one of those
(06:37):
unique one of those unique jobs where you have to
try to find a healthy balance because if a guy
doesn't feel like you have any type of care towards
them or any type of feeling towards them, Like you said,
like truthful is one thing, but genuine and nature is also,
you know, another thing. And I feel like you got
(06:59):
to form some type of a relationship with a coach
if you're going to feel that they genuinely are in
you know, have your your best interest in mine as
a group or as a player, which that's not necessarily
what it has to be, but I would like for.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
It to be there.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I was gonna ask you as this as well, like
does it bother you when you hear people on the
outside go God? That was a bit harsh, like he shouldn't,
you know, take that approach like that. He was very animated,
like they're you know, and they're here high school parents. Well,
like cause Callahan's his dad's a coach, like a legendary coach.
He's grown up around coaching his entire life. I think
(07:38):
he could read whether or not Will Levis can handle
that type of coaching or not. I think I think
he's been around it enough to know there's certain guys
maybe you can talk to in certain moments and other
ones that you can't. And Will Levis strikes me as
the type of guy that responds to hard coaching and
probably didn't take it personally or didn't take offense to it.
But it's people on the outside who want to like
(07:58):
speak for him and say, well, and a coach shouldn't
take that kind of approach. Well, do you know you're
not in the room.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, Look, this is an instance where this was one
of those like head scratching, bone head to plays. So look,
there's a way of being coached, and there's a way
of you know what's happening on the field and talking
to a player. And to me, that's like that one
moment is in this shouldn't symbolize how Brian Callahan coaches.
(08:24):
And I'm not like speaking for him. I'm just saying
it's one moment where much like everyone else who was
a Titans fan, anyone else who was betting on the
Titans or as a Will loves fan, was like, what
the f were you doing? I mean that that would
have been the same question my mom or dad would
ask me if that was me after a game, like
what the f were you doing? So, you know, it's
(08:46):
one play, it's one instance. I don't think you need
to overblow and make it about like how he coaches.
That's that's a small, small percentage of the time how
he coaches. But the truth is it's the NFL, Like,
who gives a crap at that point? If you're making
those sorts of boneheaded plays, you're not gonna be in
the NFL very long. And they're all adults, and as
(09:07):
yeah as you said, like this is your profession, you're
all adults like it. Like people on the outside of
like you don't. It's hard to understand the intensity of
the environment of an NFL locker room and team and
season and sidelines and all that, because there's few jobs
that have the type of pressure that you have. When
you have seventeen opportunities to prove what you are, whetherwise
(09:30):
as a team individual coach, that's all you get. So
it's it's it's hard then to hear other people talk about,
you know, how how a guy's going to coach. It's like, dude,
it's you can't compare it to anything you've ever experienced
before at any other level because the money is so big,
the stakes are so big, the intensity of it all,
it's all so big that you just can't look at
(09:52):
it and at any other lens and say, oh, this is,
you know, comparable to this. It's not. It's the NFL.
It's unique in its own sense.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
And then you know they probably feel at this point
in time, listen, we should be two and oh, like
they could have won that game, should have won the
Chicago game. And Brian Callaghan's probably like, dude, like.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I know, those are so bad. I forget they have
a win.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Yan and they shouldn't and they shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, in a way, neither should the Jets. Yeah, and
just being honest with you.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
And Tennessee week and Tennessee.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
I think Tennessee should have beat them. No, I think
some of them mistakes, the block punts, the Will Levis
moments that we're talking about, I think you you eliminate those.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
They lose that game.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, according uh so, Tennessee became the first team to
have a pump block, throw an interception and lose a
fumble and consecutive game since the O two Chargers.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
So it still almost won that game. Yeah, Well, but
it took the entire game for them to lose the game.
So you take those those mistakes away. They still had
the lead, didn't they have the lead at one point,
like they had it for a while, didn't they like
till the end of the game, right.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Yeah, But it wasn't like in Atlanta Philly situation, like
the Jets were, you know, in some control in that
game at least for a decent amount and then you know,
it just kind of fell apart. And then Will Levis
made a nice scramble play and they showed Robert Sala
on the sideline. It looked like he was going to
run to the end zone and could not figure out
how he got out of the grasp of the pass rusher.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
But there was no one.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Jets were leading for like what almost the entirety of
the quarter.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, but what it looked like in the first half,
and then then they took the lead back in the third.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
They they were tied like a little before half, and
then what Tennessee kicked the field goal right before halftime,
and then Rogers then came out and scored right away
in the third quarter.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
They were ahead.
Speaker 6 (11:49):
It wasn't it wasn't really like that.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You could say Tennessee could have gone either way.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, to me, it could have gone either way,
Like it didn't look like that the New York Jets
were dominated in the game. I know that that was
a takeaway. In the second half, they kind of controlled
the game, all right. I mean they shut him out
in the in the fourth quarter. That it looks like
they controlled the game ten seven seven seven in the
(12:14):
four Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I don't know who cares.
Wasn't the game anything. I'm gonna keep working to to
put the Jets. I would keep working to put the
Jets down. So, I mean, y'all get ready, you.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Can join Pete then when he joins us later on today,
trying to make a case for all the things that
he did wrong to make You've never met someone more
stubborn than Pete Prescott?
Speaker 4 (12:39):
Can we So when we bring Pete on, can we
play the sound of the will of us fumble?
Speaker 7 (12:44):
Like?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Can we play that sound as we bring it in?
Speaker 6 (12:46):
Why are you asking us? It was a question for
Lee whether he's capable of doing this.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
I just want to know whether or not that can
be piped in when Pete comes on. So, Lee, Lee,
is that possible? Can we put that together? It should
be no problem just to try and trying to get
a rise out of him here on a Tuesday, it
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Speaker 2 (13:24):
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Speaker 4 (14:44):
Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here on Fox
Sports Radio. In about twenty minutes from now, we're going
to tell you about one quarterback in the NFL who's
going to take a really patient approach when it comes
to something in his career. That'll be yours here on
FSR damn.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
Day.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
We've got ourselves the second installment though of a little
something we do called Yes.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Come on, who needs the AP top twenty five.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
I'm just seeing things that I never thought exists.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
When you've got the VQ top fifteen, right.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
And away we go.
Speaker 6 (15:18):
All right, ladies and gentlemen, we kicked this thing off
by looking at this week's poll compared to the last
week's poll. Say, at the number one spot, it's still
the University of Texas absolutely drumming UTSA last week fifty
six to seven. Now there's a bit of a concern
Quinn yours left the game with an abdominal injury of
(15:38):
some store or strain. No worries though, as everyone knows,
Arch Manning is waiting in the wings. That's right, son
of Cooper Manning, nephew of Peyton and Eli Manning, and
he did not disappoint. Over two hund and twenty yards,
passing four touchdowns, ran for a touchdown as well five
total on the day and their big win over UTSA.
They've got the best win of the sea. That's why,
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much like last week, there's still at number one in
my opinion, but up to spots to number two. It's Tennessee.
It's another ut if you will. Drumming kent State seven
one and nothing. Now, this really didn't have much to
do with who they were playing. It's the fact of
combining their dominance with what we saw a week ago,
being a top ten team at that point in NC State,
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and drumming them. This team is as talented and as
good as any in college football. You can almost make
a case maybe they should be number one, but as
of right now, I've got them number two. Down one
spot is Georgia. Yes, a close win on the road,
They're at Kroger Field in Lexington, Kentucky, reminded me a
little bit of that Georgia Miszoo game dating back to
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previous years. But look, at the end of the day,
Carson Beck, Georgia found a way to win. I do
have the dock them though, one because it just felt
like something wasn't quite there, and especially versus a Kentucky
team that plays good defense but has struggled mightily this
year offensively speaking. And down one spot, and this Moore
has to do with the fact that they're coming off
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the buys the Ohio State University. They'll have their chances
to get back into playing. Marshall will be there for
Big New Kickoff, Big Noon Saturday. But they've also been
dominant this season. They may have the best defense in
the country. The offense, it's still coming along under officse
cordator Chip Kelly, as Will Howard tries to kind of
settle into that this may be the best group of
wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
By the way, Chip.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Kelly has ever had as a play caller or head
coach ever in his career at the college level, So
that's kind of saying something. But that's the reality of
where Ohio State's at up to number five. Marchha State
at number five is Old Miss staying the exact same.
Jackson Dart's putting on a clinic. He's leading the country
and passing right now. But another team at drum Wake Force,
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forty to six. They actually beat them so bad they're
supposed to do it home and home apparently, and Wake
Force says, nope, you know, buy out of it. So
Wake Forest actually paid Old Miss one million dollars to
have to not play them again next season. So that's
how bad to Miss beat down Wake Forest up one spot.
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The number six is Alabama. They get a nice road
win going up to Madison, Wisconsin to beat the Badgers. Now,
the game was pretty lopsided, and that usually is the
case when you lose your starting quarterback early in the game,
like Wisconsin did, although I don't know that it would
have made much of a difference. Obama is still one
of the best teams in the country. Jalen Milroll putting
on a clinic through the air with something this downfield
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passing was fun to watch. Down on spots Miami to
number seven. Honestly, I've kind of been battling back and
forth because I love cam Ward the guys put his
name in conversation for the Heisman, but also being a
top ten pick.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
The way he's playing so far this year, he is
the high tide.
Speaker 6 (18:51):
I'll keep saying this that raises all boats there in
South Florida. So keep an eye on Miami moving forward
to take care of the acc player. But they drummed
Ball State sixty two to nothing. UFC USC. I've got
a number eight, same spot as they were just a
week ago. Another team that I think again, the defense
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looks improved.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Probably what's flying under the radars.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
Their offensive line much bigger, much more physical, they're running
the football just it feels a little bit different right
now for Southern cal as they begin to head into
to Big Ten play coming up this week. Number nine,
Maszoo up to spots. Not saying that I'm not a
believer in this team, but I needed to see them
get a good win. They got one against the Bill
O'Brien led Boston College this past week in Colombia, having
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to come back by the way in this one, but
a top twenty five ranked opponent. A nice win for
Britty Cook and the boys. I got them up at
number nine right now. Oregon stays at number ten, Penn
State down a couple spots to the by This doesn't
have anything to do with Penn State necessarily, more to
do with some of what's happening out around them.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Utah same spot at number twelve.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
Kansas State up one spot, but Kansas State it's also
got a tough matchup this week. They have to still
Water take on Oklahoma State. It's down one that sits
at number fourteen in my poll, and we'll see how
those two score off. Winner is going to be in
the driver's seat of the Big twelve, or at least
looking to face potentially Utah and I know it's early,
but that's where we're at. And then Nebraska and number
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fifteen seeing spot as they were just a week ago,
they still continue to deliver, drumming Northern Iowa thirty four
to three. And that is your top fifteen heading in
to week four of the college football season.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
I'm talking about right there. Well, uh, put that in
your ap pipe and smoke it, bam. I'm talking about
smoke it USC Michigan. How we feel about USC Michigan.
Speaker 6 (20:44):
You got to feel good about I mean Michigan bench.
Davis Warren is starting quarterback this past week, so it's
the Alex Orgy Show and he has shown it to
not be able to throw the football effectively very well.
So that's been one of the reasons why Davis Warren,
who's a form of walk on tremendous story for those
who don't know, he battled leukemia back when he was
in high school and was kind of directed He's from
(21:05):
the South Bay area, but he was directed to go
to Jim Harbaugh Michigan and they thought he was the
right kind of quarterback for them. Ended up earning a
scholarship and now earned an opportunity to lead start the
season as the Wolverine starting quarterback with three picks last
week just looks The offense just looks completely a shade
of what it was a year ago under JJ McCarthy.
(21:25):
So they're going to Alex Orgy. He's more of a
work in progress as a passer. Big physical specimen though,
So if you like running the football, you're going to
see a lot of that. It'll be interesting to see
what they do offensively to be able to combat what
is a potent offense. I mean, the wide receivers are
legit at Southern cal. They've got speed, they've got size,
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they can make big plays down the field. The running
games there too for them. So it feels like Wink Martindale,
the defensive coordinator for Mission's going to have his hands full.
The one thing I'll say and to keep an eye on,
is how much pressure Michigan brings. Wig Martin Neal has
always been known for this. He did it at the
NFL level. He brings constant pressure, sometimes too much, and
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guys get out of their rush lands and get out
of their gaps. It creates seams on some of those
running plays or creates big opportunity in the passing game.
So I would say, you know, USC is by far
the favor right now. Michigan just does not look like
a team that's trying to defend a national championship.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
Now, how close was Notre dameed being in the top fifteen.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
They were close. I had them at number sixteen. They
were right on the outside looking in. But I couldn't
put a team that's two and one over a three
to no Nebraska team at this point, especially the way
Nebraska's looked. It was a great win versus Perdue, but
Perdue was also voted to be the last place team
in the Big Ten as far as eighteen teams, So
I don't want to make too much of it, but
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that was the type of response that I think if
you're a Notre Dame fan, you're hoping for, you're looking for.
But there's still some concerns. I mean, the starting quarterback
doesn't have a touchdown pass and we're heading into week
four of college football, and meanwhile, you're back up and
third stringer both were able to showcase the ability to
throw the football down the field. So that's a big
(23:08):
time concern. And they had a number of injuries. We
lost one offensive lineman for the rest of the season,
a starter, lost another one for a period of time,
lost one of our edge players for the rest of
the season. So the injuries are also starting to mount up,
and that would be the concern I think heading to
this week versus Miami Ohio, you're gonna say, hey, it's
a MAX school, but look, Miam of Ohio is one
of the best teams in the MAC. If they struggle
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versus Northern Illinois, look out for Miama Ohio. Then at
this point, especially with some of the offensive line issues
they're facing, it is two pros and a cup of
Joe here on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, we
found out that the game. So we're going to be
in State.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
College next week doing the show there and they'll be
playing Illinois, and we found out that's going to be
a night game. So that's the open.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
I'll say this man, do not sleep on this Illinois team.
Brett Bilama. But Luke Altmeyer, their quarterback who transferred I
believes at Old mess Uh he can sling it. They
got some playmakers too on the outside.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
He has added a different element to this team and
they've typically been more of a running team, and it's
been the quarterback player that that at times has held
them back. Not anymore. All Meyer presents them a great
opportunity to actually make some plays in the passing game.
So this this will be a bigger challenge than I
think people realize. Remember they knocked off Kansas, who was
a top twenty team earlier this season.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Two weeks of preparation, We're good, ready to go. Yeah,
we'll be good, I hope. So, man, No, we're good.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Some slow starts. I green's not a relax relaxed quet,
just one.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm just being objective. We've got to objective. So we
got two weeks. Any quotes, any any good cut well subjective?
Is any good coach worth?
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Whatever, object I don't want to object that off, you know,
I want to be subjective purely on this one.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I mean, we've got two weeks to prepare for him.
We're good, y'all. Worry about y'all teams out.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
That Illinois goes on the road to Lincoln, pulls off
the upside of Nebraska. Next thing you know, they're coming in,
firing on all cylinders. Penn State struggles against Kent State
and who knows all of a sudden, what are you doing?
Speaker 3 (25:13):
John?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
I'm just saying, what are you doing? Who's your dads?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
Where did you go to school? Who do you play? For?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Thousand?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
What are you doing right now?
Speaker 4 (25:20):
It adds a little spice to a night game there
at Beaver Stadium. I'm listening. I've heard that.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Two weeks to prepare.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I mean, is it a white out? Are they doing
a white out?
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Good enough for a white out?
Speaker 4 (25:33):
Who's Illinois is not good enough for a white out?
Speaker 3 (25:37):
Right now? They're not good enough for white Outkay?
Speaker 6 (25:40):
So you guys don't consider.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It generally, Yeah, generally it's it's Ohio State or or
Michigan that we do our white outs.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
You at least just depends on Yeah, I know. Right.
Speaker 6 (25:53):
The problem for Illinois is they have to get.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
Through Nebraska first.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
Nebraska is as you said, Jonas is playing Illinois Saturday night,
eight pm on five.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
We have Kent.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It's Friday night. Actually it's Friday Friday week. Three weeks
to prepare for Illinois. By the way, because we have Kent,
not by I said.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
It's basically two by weeks in a row. Yeah, you're good. Yeah,
that's gonna be uh that's gonna be fun. So and
that's the that's their big ten opener Penn State. I think,
so it'll be uh night game there. And so if
people in Philly are tailgating at five thirty in the
morning for a night game for the Eagles, is that
(26:38):
about the same what they're doing in State College to
get ready.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
For that night game fifteen hours the morning. I mean
we tailgate in the morning. That's that's a night.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
One times the tailgate start.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
Mine started at nine thirty last last, last game thirty time?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Is the kick seven or seven thirty pm? Yes? Oh wow, yees.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
You got you got? You got ten hours?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
They send you a picture.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
I'm gonna send ja a video of what what ends
up happening today?
Speaker 4 (27:20):
They serve alcohol in the stadium?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Is this the video of it?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
It's not, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
We didn't catch the mosh pit on camera, but there
were some interesting moments caught on film.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
Have you ever called it de lapping, because I've heard
it's called that before.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
I don't know, man.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
I mean, so, you got ten hours and they now
serve booze in the stadium. So people are just a disaster.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I mean, bro, just buckled. Yeah, I mean that's yeah,
it's just a part of it.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
You know, you got to know how to pace yourself.
You got to know how to do it. You know,
that's all just comes along with it. You know, you
just got to know how to do it the right way. Yeah,
otherwise it could go horribly wrong for you. I just
sent you Jesus.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
That's just a job video. That's a great setup though. Well,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
You guys have baseball on the back.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
I guess you're out a baseball.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
Feel my god, Yeah, it looks like Mike McDaniel it is.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
That guy needs to talk to the lapse himself.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh hey, brouh. It was. It was ugly, it was.
It got ugly, got ugly, but but it was fun.
It was a great time. And you got a rally.
You know, when when you go when you find yourself
going harder than what you originally anticipated, you heard, well
you got a little harder than what you originally anticipated
(28:50):
that how hard you were going to go. You got
a rally. That's all. You got a rally. Check that
video out. That's a job too. And yeah, all right.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Little little p and r Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Little and wonders not me.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
I'm done.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
Yeah, there is no rallying after that. Once it Once
it leaves, that's a sign that it does not want
to be in there anymore. And uh, maybe just get
a glass of wine.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
I got snuck up on. I did get snuck up
on last week. Been during the tailgate. It snuck up
on me. I shook it off, but it did sneak
up at you.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
P and R.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
No, No, I didn't have to. I wasn't that bad.
I didn't feel sick off of it. I just it
snuck up on me. Like it was like, oh, like
my vision got a little blurry for like two seconds,
like dang, Like all right, we hear like I'm really
doing like college tailgates now again in my life, in
my later part of my life.
Speaker 4 (29:49):
You know, well listen, it'll be a good time there
sneak college.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yeah, you'll you'll be able to be a part of this.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
It'll be interesting if Lee is a part of our
tailgate and he gets with my man, then I sent
you on the video, that will be pretty entertaining.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
It seems like a terrible idea. I mean, it just
seems like it'd be fun.
Speaker 4 (30:09):
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Speaker 3 (30:20):
That's yours here on FSR.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
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Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hey, I got a social media post to this song
with like this, like it was like cowboy line dancing.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
Did you see it? Like an old ass dude. He
was stapid. He was stepping to that joint. It's kinda funny.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
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Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the air.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
KRK Cousins looked like a coach at the interview stand.
Look like I'll play for nobody's football team.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
It's a big win for that man.
Speaker 3 (31:08):
They went into the link.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Coming up top next hour a little over ten minutes
from now from the Tirak dot Com studios, we are
going to get into the latest injury concern for one
team in the NFL not great, not a great start
to the year for them. We will explain coming up
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get off the air. So with the quarterback injuries that
have started to pop up throughout the league, two of
being out and other situations throughout the NFL, the big
(31:53):
name that's out there is Ryan Tannehill, who's currently a
free agent, but apparently according to Pro Football Talk, they
are saying that Ryan Tannehill it will be very selective
regarding his next destination. So he's got money, He's had
a hell of a run in his NFL career thus far,
(32:14):
not bad for a guy who was a wide receiver
at Texas A and M, and so now he's got
an opportunity to kind of pick his next spot if
something were.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
To pop up.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
There were people that assumed, Hey, maybe green Bay could
be a landing spot, maybe Miami's a possible destination. But
Ryan Tannehill is going to wait this thing out and
I guess be very selective about it. So who knows.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
Maybe he wants to be selective about it because I
believe that he wants to, you know, get paid what
he believes his his services are worth. And you touched
on how much he's made in his career. I believe
over the course of his career has made almost two
hundred million dollars. Jeez, yeah, is that much? One hundred
and ninety five almost hundred ninety six million dollars?
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Nice? Damn.
Speaker 6 (32:56):
So I mean at this point in time, it's like, yeah,
he's probably joined family life. He's able to look at
it and say which team gives me the best chance
to win? Too. I mean, he's played long enough and
been a part of it long enough too where you
don't want to go to a dumpster fire situation, right,
And so as you sort of look through the teams
that have a need, for example, and you know, have
(33:18):
the cap space probably to pay him what he's looking for.
You know, green Bay has sixteen million roughly in cap space.
At the moment, So is he going to do it
for that right eat up all their cap for the
rest this year. Love's probably not gonna be out that long,
so it doesn't really make much sense. And they just
won with Milike Willis. You know they traded for him
for a reason. You look at Miami, they have about
(33:40):
twenty four million in cap space. They just obviously signed
Tyler Huntley, so maybe they feel like they're good to
get through this period of time without them, unless you're
talking about a team like Las Vegas, who might say, hey,
you feel like we need an upgrade with what we've
got right now. But they just won this past week
with Minshew, So I'll be curious to see what like
true interest is out there for him, uh, from some
(34:03):
of these teams that actually have the cap space, because
like if you look at the Giants, for example, Daniel Jones,
a lot of pressure on him. They're talking about benching
him or moving on. What you just put a bunch
of money into him. You got Drew locked there. But
they don't have much much cap space either, so I'm
not sure that makes a ton of sense. So I'm
just not really sure like where he would sign at
this point, you know, based on you know, the availability,
(34:27):
what's out there. I mean, Donald's played really well. They're
too and oh in Minnesota. So I'm not sure that
makes a lot of sense either.
Speaker 1 (34:34):
If Dalton doesn't prove out in Carolina, why the.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Hell would he want any part of the Carolina.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Fan Because three point eight million in cap space, they
actually have the fewest of any team in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
God, they don't even do that well. Geez, Like, what
does Carolina do well? Like, now that we're on the thing,
you suck barbecue?
Speaker 6 (34:55):
Barbecue, We've got some. They've got some good beaches, good
beach Town's great golf yep. I mean are you talking
about that the team or the team?
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (35:05):
Yeah, I don't have much for you there. Really nice,
they're super nice. They got that big drum yep. They
got that big drum they hit in the stadium. Although
I told you I.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
Was calling that that Vikings Gardner.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
They started hitting that that drum during the Vikings game
and then everyone started doing the skull chant, so the
Panthers realize they got to stop hitting the drum.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
They got Sam Mills the statue, Yeah, they do have that.
They always had that. I mean, they always reference back
to Sam.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
They've had a lot of great players that have come
through there, whether it's Julius Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
JP is a beast, Steve Smith, beasts who else?
Speaker 4 (35:40):
John Casey okay, saying Mohammed good, Jake del Home, you're
going great with moosh uh back, but you're going great,
Deshaun Foster. I'll go with de Foss, but you're going great.
I'm trying to give them some hope here, like trying to.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
I banged with de Foss and he was a bad
boy for them.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
He bangs. Y'all didn't even say Cam. You didn't say Cam,
Did you say sure? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (36:08):
Cam Newton?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, sorry about that killer killer. Cam. Maybe had a
few good players.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
They had some players the linebackers, Thomas Davis linebackers now
Jonas Dan Morgan, come on, man, Dan, he like the
GM now part of that front office. I wonder what
I wish we could hear what he's thinking, Like what's
going on there? From his perspective.
Speaker 4 (36:34):
There's got to be football people in the building that
are like death.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
You guys probably are like, oh man, this thing is
working out for to tackle someone?
Speaker 3 (36:42):
You know, Like, why do you think we're so valient man.
Speaker 6 (36:44):
It's more that I just that's what goes on in
my head. I just feel like we're a cerebral across
the uh you think there, like I would be in
a boardroom looking at somebody like I will f your day.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
All.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
That's why I know. That's where you don't go the
direction I want. If we can't do this the right way,
then let's do it the wrong way. Take you out, Yeah, yeah,
I can dig it. Well, I'm gonna take a quick
break because now you got me my adrenalineough, and you
know we still got one more hour to do so
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